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« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2012, 19:23:35 pm »

Monty is right - it's only when things go against you that moments of bad luck and poor ref decisions are noticed. They happen in every game but they are completely forgotten about when you win.
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« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2012, 19:33:19 pm »

Unfortunately I have. The improvement is plain to see as we descend down the table becoming the divisions whipping boys!

Please explain in what part of the game we have improved. And then explain why we don't get any points.

Are we stronger defensively?
Do we capitulate in the last half hour of every game ?
Do we have any other tactic other than to HOOF the ball to the wings ?
Can you honestly see us beating anyone the way we play ? (maybe if they play 30mins each way.

I really hope AB can now put a team together that will rescue us from this downward spiral. And make improvements that will actually get us some points.
Will keep a slice of humble pie ready for Saturday......lets hope I have to eat it !!!

Are we stronger defensively than under Johnson? Yes, definately!
Do we capitulate in the last 30? No usually the last 15 Angry
Seriously though, AB is hindered in trying to bring quality in by the position the club currently occupies (92nd), hence mainly loans. But without any doubt he is the best option we could have hoped for, and (hopefully) he will turn this mess around.
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« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2012, 20:26:40 pm »

"Wanna join our club? We're definitely going up this year!"

"Wanna join our club? We're hoping to stay up this year!"

Spot the difference - and when you've done that tell me which club you'd rather join.
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« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2012, 20:53:54 pm »

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« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2012, 22:30:56 pm »

Aidy has said in his interview today that this is the biggest challenge he has ever faced, not just on the pitch off it as well. I wonder what exactly all the off the pitch issues are?
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« Reply #85 on: February 02, 2012, 22:52:06 pm »

Probably that as a lot of the budget is tied up on players he can't get rid of he's left with not only trying to rebuild a side on the cheap but do it with a lot of bellend fans wondering a) why he hasn't got rid of certain highly paid non-playing players and b) why we haven't signed big name players left right and centre
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« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2012, 00:03:49 am »

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« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2012, 01:39:58 am »

Only the first of your four points is a comparison between now and then, the rest are all 'this is why we're bad'. So in an argument about whether or not we have improved under AB only the first of your points is worth answering and, yes, we are stronger defensively.

The point is that they are the same reasons we were poor under GJ and (to a lesser extent) Sammo. I think the goals against column might prove we are not stronger defensively.  it appears to me everyone scores against us. It's not a question of if but how many.

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Npton "anything" Opposition "0"

That would be an improvement - September 13th 2011 the last time that happened.
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« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2012, 11:15:06 am »

so 0-0 is better than 2-1 win  Huh??


funny that if you don't concede you don't score yourself.

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« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2012, 11:31:27 am »

By my reckoning Boothroyd has been in charge for 9 games.

Goals conceded in last 9 games: 18
Goals conceded in previous 9 games: 26

So, we are nearly a goal a game better defensively since AB took charge, compared to the equivalent time before his arrival.
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« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2012, 12:20:38 pm »

football is 2 games,, with the ball and without

or scoring and conceding

the only thing that really matters (in stats) is the result and hence the number of points received

Might concede slightly less but scoring more than the opposition is what it is all about
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« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2012, 12:29:49 pm »

By my reckoning Boothroyd has been in charge for 9 games.

Goals conceded in last 9 games: 18
Goals conceded in previous 9 games: 26

So, we are nearly a goal a game better defensively since AB took charge, compared to the equivalent time before his arrival.

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.
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« Reply #92 on: February 03, 2012, 12:53:56 pm »

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.

Facts like that destroy arguments and/or the objective of the poster... Tongue 
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« Reply #93 on: February 03, 2012, 13:18:09 pm »

I think David Lee's glory day may have been left out of the equation!
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« Reply #94 on: February 03, 2012, 13:50:46 pm »

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.

That's a slightly suprising statistic actually. Our problems at the end of last year were rooted in our inability to prevent the opposition from scoring less than 2 a game and we are right back there now.

We actually started the season better this year conceding just 9 goals in our first 8 league games, but now seem to be back to the two a game average. Interestingly, this change seems to conincide almost exactly with Webster picking up his injury actually. Although much maligned by many on here (a bit unfairly in my opinion), maybe his return can be a big one for us.

And based on another statistic, we don't even need the cleansheet for now. Lets first settle for keeping the opposition down to a goal a game. If you look at the games where we have conceded just one goal (12 times this season) we have only failed to get some sort of a result twice.

I'll say it again, shove the loan striker up your a*rse, make Gabor an offer he just can't refuse and secure our status.
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« Reply #95 on: February 03, 2012, 14:43:57 pm »

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.

Come on now, we all know you can't prove anything with facts...

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« Reply #96 on: February 03, 2012, 14:51:50 pm »

I think what you'll find is that we let the other team play,
giving them lots of space/time on the ball,
watch tomorrow as the wingers will be well into our half before a tackle/block is attempted,
this therefore means the rest of their mid-field can push into our half,
with a chance to shoot,or pass to a attacker who is dragging the defence all over the place,giving more space for their mid-field
we need to close the other team down from the front to the back
defend as a team and attack as a team,

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« Reply #97 on: February 03, 2012, 14:52:16 pm »

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.

Wonder where we would be now if GJ was still here. We were not bottom when he left and have gained only 5 points (from memory) since his departure.

I'm not saying I didn't want him to go, just a curious though.
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« Reply #98 on: February 03, 2012, 14:54:35 pm »

Is that you Shoemaker?  Cheesy

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« Reply #99 on: February 03, 2012, 16:09:35 pm »

in GJ's last 9 games in charge we conceded 17 goals.

I admit I may have deliberately ignored that complication to an extent. However it goes back to the old argument (not saying we should do it again!) of whether you can realistically pardon GJ of any blame for the Shrews and Argyle performances/results.

Interestingly, if you take the averages of their entire reigns, GJ's teams conceded about 1.75 goals a game and AB's have so far conceded 2 a game. Yet, I would still maintain that under AB we look a much stronger unit defensively, and I bet I'm not alone.
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