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Title: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: NTFC Nut on May 30, 2010, 16:12:14 pm
Accrington Stanley
Aldershot Town
Barnet
Bradford City
Burton Albion
Bury
Cheltenham Town
Chesterfield
Crewe Alexandra
Gillingham
Hereford United
Lincoln City
Macclesfield Town
Morecambe
NORTHAMPTON TOWN
Oxford United
Port Vale
Rotherham United
Shrewsbury Town
Stevenage
Stockport County
Southend United
Torquay United
Wycombe Wanderers



Looking at that list, we have a really, really good chance next season. The likes of Notts County and Rochdale aren't in that list any more and they've been replaced by clubs with off-field problems like Southend and Stockport. Gillingham have a lot of rebuilding to do, and Wycombe will probably do their party trick of being 10 points clear in November and finishing mid-table. Oxford coming up are probably more of a threat than any of the relegated sides, and it's disappointing Rotherham are staying down as they'll be a tricky proposition next season, but generally speaking, looking down that list fills me with confidence.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: West.43 on May 30, 2010, 17:35:41 pm
Will be interested to hear Mr. Cardozas pre-season expectation. I would take play-offs next season and if we make it up that way, then great. Wouldn't want to pick the teams who'll get relegated from League Two next year, mind!


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 30, 2010, 18:00:53 pm
15th already, will that be the highest or lowest we will be throughout the season?  :P


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: NTFCLENB on May 30, 2010, 18:30:41 pm
Really Is s***! Really doesn't make you look forward with any kind of excitement does it?!

I mean looking at that list:-

Depending on clubs holding onto their better players -

I mean Aldershot could suffer a play off hangover as could Rotherham - Can they live up to the previous season's standard?!
Bradford should do better under Peter Taylor!
Chesterfield with their new ground could prove useful?
Gillingham could do well if they manage to hold onto some of their better players - But did they actually win away once last season?!
I can see Oxford doing well personally?
Stevenage I can see doing a Burton of last season and surprising a few people?
Shrewsbury you always look to do well, but I think they will find it hard going next season.
I don't rate Wycombe at all, but I'm sure they will up there as usual.
I think Torquay could surprise you know - Look at how they ended last season!

But who know's?! I would fancy us - But we must get off to a winning start and be out of the blocks early I beleive.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Power Football on May 30, 2010, 18:39:26 pm
Wouldn't want to pick the teams who'll get relegated from League Two next year, mind!

I'll give it a go... Cheltenham and Barnet


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 30, 2010, 18:44:15 pm
I dont know about Rotherham suffering a hangover, if Moore stays in charge they're tough to beat, and its worth remembering that they would have been in the playoffs last season too if it wasnt for a 15 point deduction. Plus they have a new ground on the horizon.
Chesterfield should do well too, another with a new ground, plus Morecambe who came close this season...again a new ground!
Both the Blue Square promotees could go well, as could Crewe who may spend a bit of money in the summer if they sell a player or two.
Bradford need to sort out their away form, and similarly we need to sort out our home form, having won 3 fewer games than Hereford!!
Shrewsbury, Port Vale and Bury will all be hopeful of doing well, having been there or thereabouts last season.
It really is hard to pick a winner from the division....nobody stands out, similarly you couldnt pick anyone to do badly either.....I think it will be really tight at both ends.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 30, 2010, 18:49:08 pm
By the way....early odds are already out with Corals who go with Gillingham as 8/1 favourites, Rotherham at 9's, Aldershot and Wycombe 10's.
We are 12/1 joint 6th favourites alongside Bradford, Chesterfield and Morecambe.
Barnet at 66/1 are the rank outsiders, with Accrington, Lincoln and Macclesfield at 50/1.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Tyler on May 30, 2010, 18:58:02 pm
Port Vale to go up.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: sbedscobb on May 30, 2010, 19:38:33 pm
As NTFCLENB said we really do need to get off to a flyer because by winning our first 3 games it puts us in the top 3 which will put several hundred on the gate and much feel good factor washing around sixfields, we need to be in the running from the off, not making up ground after Christmas with everyone getting on the backs of players. Far too early for preditctions as we hav'nt got that 20 goal a season striker, a couple of solid defenders and  midfield maestro signed yet but when we do, top 3 for us.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: DustCobb on May 30, 2010, 20:45:57 pm
Bradford, Port Vale and Southend are my tip for promotion.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: NTFC Nut on May 30, 2010, 20:54:23 pm
I dont know about Rotherham suffering a hangover, if Moore stays in charge they're tough to beat, and its worth remembering that they would have been in the playoffs last season too if it wasnt for a 15 point deduction. Plus they have a new ground on the horizon.
Chesterfield should do well too, another with a new ground, plus Morecambe who came close this season...again a new ground!
Both the Blue Square promotees could go well, as could Crewe who may spend a bit of money in the summer if they sell a player or two.
Bradford need to sort out their away form, and similarly we need to sort out our home form, having won 3 fewer games than Hereford!!
Shrewsbury, Port Vale and Bury will all be hopeful of doing well, having been there or thereabouts last season.
It really is hard to pick a winner from the division....nobody stands out, similarly you couldnt pick anyone to do badly either.....I think it will be really tight at both ends.

New grounds don't necessarily represent an advantage. It can take time to settle in to a new ground and if you've made a fortress of the old ground in previous seasons (as both Morecambe and Chesterfield have) the wrench of leaving can impact badly on home form the following season.

As you and Len pointed out, Stevenage will probably surprise a number of people next season. They got 99 points in the Conference last season- teams who have got that kind of points total in recent history have tended to go on to get another promotion within a season or two- Carlisle, Doncaster, Yeovil, and so on. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see Stevenage (or Oxford for that matter) in the mix next season.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Zen Master on May 31, 2010, 08:02:07 am
 Given our budget reduction of 25% and our average attendance compared to everyone else in the division we should still be competitive dependant on the astuteness and persuasive skills of Crosby, Sammo et al. Man management and motivational skills are everything allied with a set of players that work hard individually and as a unit. Here is the average atendances across last season so will probably have a distinct correlation to playing budget although those relegated last season may have some issues if they did not have relegation clauses in the playing contracts and will probably have people leaving. The positions last season of Rochdale, Dagenhham etc show that luck and good management mean more than attendances. The signings of the next month or so mean a lot to us. Whatever happens. VIVA LA COBBLERS !!!

1   Bradford City          11423   
R      Southend United         7718
R      Gillingham                  6335   
P      Oxford United           6004      
R      Wycombe Wanderers    5544         
4   Shrewsbury Town       5482   
5   Port Vale               5080   
7   Northampton Town      4427   
8   Crewe Alexandra         4075   
9   Chesterfield                3849   
10   Rotherham United        3817         
11   Lincoln City            3670   
13   Cheltenham Town        3243   
14   Burton                    3191   
15   Aldershot Town            3086
16   Bury                            3027   
17   Torquay United            2859   
P      Stevenage Borough    2589   
18   Morecambe            2262   
19   Hereford United            2139   
20   Dagenham & Redbridge    2098   
21   Barnet                    2059   
22   Accrington Stanley       1980   
24   Macclesfield Town        1934


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on May 31, 2010, 09:45:40 am
Torquay are worth a punt at 33s


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: wazzacobbler on May 31, 2010, 10:33:09 am
Given our budget reduction of 25% and our average attendance compared to everyone else in the division we should still be competitive dependant on the astuteness and persuasive skills of Crosby, Sammo et al. Man management and motivational skills are everything allied with a set of players that work hard individually and as a unit. Here is the average atendances across last season so will probably have a distinct correlation to playing budget although those relegated last season may have some issues if they did not have relegation clauses in the playing contracts and will probably have people leaving. The positions last season of Rochdale, Dagenhham etc show that luck and good management mean more than attendances. The signings of the next month or so mean a lot to us. Whatever happens. VIVA LA COBBLERS !!!

1   Bradford City          11423   
R      Southend United         7718
R      Gillingham                  6335   
P      Oxford United           6004      
R      Wycombe Wanderers    5544         
4   Shrewsbury Town       5482   
5   Port Vale               5080   
7   Northampton Town      4427   
8   Crewe Alexandra         4075   
9   Chesterfield                3849   
10   Rotherham United        3817         
11   Lincoln City            3670   
13   Cheltenham Town        3243   
14   Burton                    3191   
15   Aldershot Town            3086
16   Bury                            3027   
17   Torquay United            2859   
P      Stevenage Borough    2589   
18   Morecambe            2262   
19   Hereford United            2139   
20   Dagenham & Redbridge    2098   
21   Barnet                    2059   
22   Accrington Stanley       1980   
24   Macclesfield Town        1934

Is there not a team missing here?

A relegated team perhaps?

I can't think who it is though


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Tyler on May 31, 2010, 10:36:48 am
Stockport?


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Zen Master on May 31, 2010, 13:08:07 pm
        Bradford City          11423   
R      Southend United         7718
R      Gillingham                  6335   
P      Oxford United           6004     
R      Wycombe Wanderers    5544         
       Shrewsbury Town       5482   
        Port Vale               5080   
       Northampton Town      4427
R      Stockport County    4420    
      Crewe Alexandra         4075   
      Chesterfield                3849   
      Rotherham United        3817         
      Lincoln City            3670   
     Cheltenham Town        3243   
      Burton                    3191   
     Aldershot Town            3086
     Bury                            3027   
     Torquay United            2859   
P    Stevenage Borough    2589   
     Morecambe            2262   
     Hereford United            2139   
     Dagenham & Redbridge    2098   
     Barnet                    2059   
     Accrington Stanley       1980   
     Macclesfield Town        1934



Better now is it?


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Dr Feelgood on June 01, 2010, 04:37:41 am
        Bradford City          11423   
R      Southend United         7718
R      Gillingham                  6335   
P      Oxford United           6004     
R      Wycombe Wanderers    5544         
       Shrewsbury Town       5482   
        Port Vale               5080   
       Northampton Town      4427
R      Stockport County    4420    
      Crewe Alexandra         4075   
      Chesterfield                3849   
      Rotherham United        3817         
      Lincoln City            3670   
     Cheltenham Town        3243   
      Burton                    3191   
     Aldershot Town            3086
     Bury                            3027   
     Torquay United            2859   
P    Stevenage Borough    2589   
     Morecambe            2262   
     Hereford United            2139   
     Dagenham & Redbridge    2098   
     Barnet                    2059   
     Accrington Stanley       1980   
     Macclesfield Town        1934



Better now is it?
Much better Zenny we can all sleep easier now..


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: MK_Cobbler on June 01, 2010, 14:25:46 pm
League 2 is a terrible terrible terrible league. Dagenham have just managed to get out the league with a team brought for £10k


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: abington_cobbler on June 01, 2010, 15:37:29 pm
I'm tempted to have an each way bet on Crewe at 25/1


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: FezNTFC on June 02, 2010, 11:35:55 am
League 2 is a terrible terrible terrible league. Dagenham have just managed to get out the league with a team brought for £10k
We've done pretty well to compete with them then since our squad cost £10k less ;D


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Power Football on June 02, 2010, 18:31:45 pm
Hoping for Torquay/Morecambe away in August...

I'm having a Cobblers away weekend as my stag do so i'm desperately hoping our first two away games aren't Stevenage and Burton...


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Positively Mad Mark on June 04, 2010, 08:37:24 am
I fancy Bradford to win it.  Port Vale, Oxford and Wycombe to do well.  Stevenage could be one of those promoted dark horse teams as well.  I reality we should be challenging as well.  Rotherham also could be challengers.

Barnet and Cheltenham are also my favourites to go down, Hereford could challenge them.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: bigcitylights on June 04, 2010, 09:10:06 am
Lincoln have made a couple of handy signings already this season (Carayol from Torquay, Anyon from Port Vale) and they looked solid enough in our games against them. I'd be having a look at them at this stage.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: ef_cobbler28 on June 04, 2010, 10:34:20 am
Bradford would be my pick, Taylor has been raiding Wycombe and seems to got rid of a lot of dead wood there.

Lincoln will be handy, but the decent players that stood out for them were loan players, so will have gone back to their parent clubs.  Although Sutton has signed 2 decent enough players.



Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Jefferson Lake on June 04, 2010, 12:43:21 pm
Don't rate Anyon at all. Lincoln's best player (by a distance) in the game at Sincil Bank was Somma, and he's back at Leeds.

My 50p is going on Chesterfield.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Positively Mad Mark on June 04, 2010, 13:59:42 pm
As slways though, it is so hard to call this league, you never know who is going to sign who and there will always be a dark horse (like Bournemouth last season).


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Power Football on June 04, 2010, 14:02:15 pm
Chesterfield have made a couple of good signings in their midfield so they will certainly be stronger.

If Gillingham don't lose too many players they'll be strong as well. Infact i reckon it will be a tougher league and a bigger challenge than it should have been last year.

Us, Gillingham, Bury, Morecambe, Aldershot, Wycombe, Bradford, Shrewsbury, Port Vale, Chesterfield, Rotherham will all fancy their chances of a play off spot at least and thats before you mention Lincoln, Torquay, Oxford and Stevenage...

It's going to be a battle thats for sure...


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: Mad Dog on June 04, 2010, 14:14:04 pm
Accrington Stanley
Aldershot Town
Barnet
Bradford City
Burton Albion
Bury
Cheltenham Town
Chesterfield
Crewe Alexandra
Gillingham
Hereford United
Lincoln City
Macclesfield Town
Morecambe
NORTHAMPTON TOWN
Oxford United
Port Vale
Rotherham United
Shrewsbury Town
Stevenage
Stockport County
Southend United
Torquay United
Wycombe Wanderers



Looking at that list, we have a really, really good chance next season. The likes of Notts County and Rochdale aren't in that list any more and they've been replaced by clubs with off-field problems like Southend and Stockport. Gillingham have a lot of rebuilding to do, and Wycombe will probably do their party trick of being 10 points clear in November and finishing mid-table. Oxford coming up are probably more of a threat than any of the relegated sides, and it's disappointing Rotherham are staying down as they'll be a tricky proposition next season, but generally speaking, looking down that list fills me with confidence.

NTFC Nut don't post things with loads of colours again. I just suffered a mild epileptic fit.


Title: Re: The npower League Two, 2010-11
Post by: saturday banana on June 05, 2010, 06:53:27 am
Chesterfield for me this season with new ground theory being my mane reason.
They'll get 7-8,000 most weeks and will intinidate at home...

After that.....Teyn, Stevenage and Torquay...