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I really do despair of Caroline Densley of Radio Northampton! Consistently getting things wrong. She genuinely thought that we'd signed Neil Ardley (a football manager) last week and in tonight's programme she still refers to Neal Eardley as Neil Ardley.

And to crown tonight's programme off she states that Lincoln Town beat Ipswich in the FA Cup!! And even Lincoln Town get mentioned twice!! How did this woman get the job? These are basic mistakes she is making. She is totally rubbish!!! Get rid of her. God we miss Joe Townsend.

Probably best off emailing your concerns to the station manager. Don't think anybody on here has the power to "get rid of her"

Have to say, I do think she's pretty rubbish. Forgivable if it was someone on work experience but she's there every week! Consistently getting things wrong and making gaffes. Even Oglethorpe sounds bored with her already!

Agreed, bless her but she is really bad.... she must do it for free...

A lot of people on this forum wanted us to get rid of Rob Page. I can't recall you saying don't think anybody on here has the power to get rid of him!

I just laugh now, shes hilarious without knowing, one of her colleagues has fallen out with me for slating her on twitter

They were complaining about the NTFC manager on an NTFC message board. You're complaining about a radio broadcaster on an NTFC message board.

I wanted to point out that pronouncing Neal Eardley as Neil Ardley is barely even a mistake.... but then I remembered the amount of times I've been laughing at how bad she is when she's covering the Cobblers. I will always remember after a home match I was driving home and Rob Page was late talking to the show, and she was pretty much talking about what she was having for dinner  ;D ;D

She is absolutely terrible at what she does.

Well then I think this board need to have a good hard look at itself.
I do wonder what is the point of a football forum that has no say on the local radio station recruitment policy.

To be honest - who cares? Like Marquis says if you have a problem contact BBC Northampton OR just don't bother listening!  

So any topic to do with the club, tactics, management,transfers, we should not post on here, , contact the club eh

Organise a petition and send it to Radio Npton.

I'm soft as buggery, and can empathise with her because I've been incompetent at most of my jobs too, but yeah, she really is bad.

I'm sorry is that what I just said  ???

The topic is radio Northampton, which is what I was referring to, try reading properly.

Think he read it perfectly correctly...it has just gone completely over your head. Think about it!

I agree, she is poor. I have to switch off sometimes because I'm embarrassed for her fellow presenters and her interviewees who must crings as much as the listeners. She is ok at reading out the sports bulletins if they don't require any adlibbing or personal opinions.

Let's face they are all poor commentators and sports presenters on Radio Northampton apart from the guests Lee Harper and Terry Angus

At least Oglethorpe has a bit of a clue. Not that I always agree with him but he knows what teams are called.

This Densely woman is really poor. To those saying don't listen, bit difficult when it's the number one place for Cobblers stuff on match days.

If you say so, whatever  :P

If I were you I would smash my radio with a big hammer. Problem solved.

She is appalling. We've had some decent ones over the years, including the excellent Mike Sewell, but CD is the worst I can remember. Sorry to suggest this but if she was a bloke would she have got the job?

But isn't this all related to Ntfc and her incompetence with Ntfc? Have I hit a nerve? Is she your girlfriend?

Bring your radio to The Gateway to Northamptonshire then and I'll gladly smash it with a big hammer!

That's very true, Rodney. In recent years we've also had John Wilkinson go on to a prime spot on BBC 5 Live and Joe Townsend has gone on to Sky. I think the breeding ground has now come to an abrupt end!

are you 11?

I've never been a fan of Oglethorpe either. Comes out with some right rubbish and his insistence on calling it Division  2 annoyed me. Havent really listened much this season to see if he's calling it Division 1. Its clear why he's still at local radio and Joe Townsend moved on quickly

Adam Blackmore was great at the job. As for this young lady, I almost cringed several weeks back when, live on air, she asked Page if he would switch his interview day from Thursday to Friday, as it was 'her' day off. He totally ignored her request. ;D

Don't let him patronise you, tell your teacher

I agree with this and he constantly stating that we wont the league by 9 points last season. He says it every game I listen too

No, you misunderstand. It is your radio that's the problem. Mine plays radio 4.

Nothing wrong with Tim, but that woman has a lot to answer for.

To be honest the standard of presenting on radio Northampton has got noticeably worse over the last few months - the new drive time presenter Carson wishart is terrible, I had the misfortune of listening to him "bantering" with Caroline dense-ley the other day and it was painful. The only decent presenter they've got left is Bernie Keith and I'm sure it won't be long until the BBC in their wisdom get rid of him too. Having said that I think their coverage of the saints is good - it's just us that have been thrown to the wolves.

I am glad this has been brought up because she is utterly useless .
She knows next to nothing about football and is easily over awed by her guests .
She asks the sort of questions my mother would ask , who dislikes football .
It is important because she is wheeled in front of the manager to ask the relevant questions that we all want asking . She fails at this task miserably .
She should stick to being the knitting correspondent and leave football alone .
It's not a sexist thing because some of Talksport's female presenters are excellent . as is Kelly Dalglish as she was once called before getting married !

I've had the misfortune of listening to her and echo the comments a few have made on here.

Probably down to the BBC's obsession with promoting diversity over talent.

Not sexist  ;D

Can you name which female talksport presenters are good at knitting.
Is Kelly dalgleish the best or others more technically gifted?

As everyone knows her and oglethorpe make a good pair as they are both useless.

Oglethorpe 'if' we win tomorrow: ' you must fancy your chances of sneaking into those end of season play offs Justin'.. ;D

Well Caroline Densley has achieved the impossible and got all the Cobblers fans to agree on something.....she is absolute crap...how do people like her land these jobs in the first place.???

Hopeless and infuriating...thankfully i can rarely get Radio Northampton for football down here and am normally at the game anyway, so miss out on her banal nonsense.

Ok the Radio Northampton copper piping correspondent then if that's more PC !

The coverage over the years from Radio Northampton for NTFC has been excellent. I wonder how much of the drop in standard is down to budget cuts?
Tim Oglethorpe has intelligence and a good knowledge of local football. I notice now that one commentator has to do ALL the match.
Try listening to some of the inane drivel as you drive from away grounds. Plus alot of League 1 and 2 clubs are lucky to get a 2 minute mention because of higher profile clubs.

Appreciate what we have had year on year.

Well said, at least we have excellent coverage to moan about.

Question - Do Cobblers fans always have to moan about something? Page has gone so lets turn out attention to Radio Northampton. Pathetic!   

Oglethorpe who talked down the 'We want answers' protests assuring everything would be ok with Cardoza. Say no more.

Absolutely.
I refuse to listen to radio Northampton because of this and have never purchased the chronicle and echo either.
Their inaction and steadfast denial of what actually became fact was the biggest betrayal of sport in this county in my opinion.
Any faith in either organisation has long gone as far as I'm concerned

To be fair to Tim Oglethorpe , he may be a bit dour but he is a committed Cobblers man and at least asks sensible questions , unlike his current co presenter .
Also unlike Lee Harper who cannot string two words together .
Thankfully Terry Angus doesn't appear any more and when Gareth Wilsher chirps up , I have to turn off .
Sammo , Savage , Benji , Holt , Atkins and Brady are all good though .

It's just all Saints now, isn't it?

Is that what so called Aministators do? Like a keyboard steward. Probably wears a hi viz jacket when administrating.

Really looking forward to the FA Cup 4th Round tie between Lincoln Town v Brighton & Hove Park Rangers.

Well done! I think we've heard them all now, maybe you have a secret crush on her.

Just remember how bad Joe Townsend was when he first started, give her a break or if you think you can do better....ask Radio Northampton if you can have a go.

The worst one ever was that smug twat named Doyle. 

I've noticed that you get very touchy whenever the subject of radio Northampton comes up - if I recall you accused me of sexism when I dared to criticise Caroline dense-ley in the past when I did nothing of the sort. Judging by this thread it looks like you're very much in the minority.

Sorry to disappoint you but I actually enjoy the coverage when I can't get to an away game. They actually give a good service most of the time, certainly better than watching score updates on Sky or on five Live. You'll only miss it if it wasn't there, as with everything.

By the way her name is Densley not Dense-ley  ;)

A good service it's awful poor hosts and a reception that anyone would think was coming from the outer reaches of the universe.

Not sure he ever said everything would be OK with Cardoza, more everything would be OK because the club would get taken over.

Irchy, ever heard the rhyme sticks and stones?

Remember as well the match when we lifted the league 2 trophy I was told they went back to report on saints then missed us lifting the trophy

You hum it and I'll sing it ;)

No, I know how bad your singing is.

Too right about the reception. We in the South of the county can barely get any reception at all .When I complained, I was instructed to erect an aerial in my loft.
A good example of how we in the SotC are ignored is the fact that on their vans, nowhere south of Towcester is mentioned.

Finally a man of principle

Editorially and reception-wise I think they've wiped-out any hopes of connecting with the south of the county.

The strange thing about the reception is I can get it top end of the A34,  bottom end of M42 and north of Leicester, yet it's less than perfect four miles north of Daventry.

I am thankful I cannot get it...

I listen to Channel 734 on Freeview on my television when I'm at home. May be worth giving that a try.

Thanks. Would that be the same on Sky?

I listen to radio Northampton on cobblers player up here in Crewe.

SoC - the Freeview platform is connected to the local BBC radio station so you should get a good reception. I think the Sky platform uses different channel numbers but also is tuned in to the local BBC radio station so it depends on where you live in the UK. 

On a slightly different tack - I understand the range of BBC Radio N'ton on the digital signal is not good which is disappointing since we were told this is the future.

She was dreadful again after the MK match, which incidentally I picked up RAdio N'pton on FM in the car whilst in MK. Listening to her after that match just made the day even worse.

Edinburgh "yeah Revs picked up a calf injury " Densley "is it his ankle ? "   ???

Did I hear correctly but at the end of the programme did the Dense-ley one say "we'll be you next week in the claret box "? WTF!

"Well see you next week in the claret box" I persume in reference to where they are in the west stand.

She asked Kerslake today, so tell me what an assistant manager actually does?
He was taken aback by the question, and it is painful listening to her.

she asked him that after a game?? And one where we'd been hammered??

No, that was before the game. And I think that it was prerecorded. I was in the car, and after that, I lost reception.  :D

Every question an embarrassment - get her off and send her to a fete or something

The one question fans were waiting for 'HAVE YOU PLANS TO SIGN SOME PLAYERS THIS WEEK?' see did not ask!!!

That's because it could have proved a thorny issue

This is radio Northampton

Always prepared to avoid the important issues.

Agree and I would of asked that question too but to be honest who ever the manager is you usually get a waffle of an answer 'we're trying' blah blah.

What do we have to do to get rid of the banal, useless presenter Caroline Densley.

How did she ever get the job?

It's not much better in Irthlingborough. It switches from Radio N'pton to 3 Counties as I turn corners in my car. Northampton is only 15 mile away as the crow flies.

 

On the way back yesterday, mine switched to BBC London, great reception

She is in a nutshell quite simply the worst media presenter I have heard ever.
This thread needs linking to the radio Northampton complaints

To be fair, a can remember when Gary Lineker started his media career on Talk Radio (as I believe it was then?). He was far worse than Miss Densley, and he's come on some way. So there is room for improvement ;D

On a side note, one of my lads was doing his nut yesterday. He finished work at 4pm, so put the car radio on to see how we were doing. Spent the next five minutes cheering and smiling as the male commentator (whoever it was?) was repeatedly saying the score was 0-2. He thought we were thumping them, bless him. You should have heard his expletives about the 0-2 ;D

If you are broadcasting a football result on a sports programme should it not be the home team that is mentioned first? Yesterday Useless Tits ended the programme by saying it was Northampton 3 Mk Dons 5. This is so sloppy and amateurish from a professional broadcaster. The BBC is possibly the biggest and best broadcasting company in the world!!! Oh for Hereward Radio!!!

Joe Townsend was a relative novice who had just come out of university and had won some student broadcasting award. Caroline Dense-ley has been employed in broadcasting/ journalism for over 12 years. Bit of a difference!

Brilliant 🙂🙂🙂

2 classics from her yesterday that I heard on the way home...

"it was almost a brilliant comeback". We pulled one goal back when 3 were needed. Wouldn't exactly call that 'almost' or brilliant myself  ;D

But my favourite. 'Our defending wasn't that bad was it Tim? Or was it?'

Have to agree with the majority here. She appears to know practically nothing about foorball and therefore trots out endless banalities.

Coming from a non footballing background (I believe) it is inevitable she will not hit the ground running, whilst she may be awful at the minute I remember Townsend being embarrassingly awful at the start. She could improve?

I remember similar apologist comments (not from you, bri77) about Paul Rodgers and Chris Dunn.  Sometimes in life you just have to admit that someone isn't going to make it, as my Dad always says, "as long as they have a hole for an 4rse".  FYI, Paul is apparently training to be a bus driver in Croydon with TfL, but continually fails to take corners.  He's now pinning his hopes on the reinstatement of bus conductors.

Well she keep name dropping about clubs shes reported on Tranmere , Bristol City Plymouth, shes no novice Bri, Joe Townsend found Wilder difficult, which he was early on, cant see Densley at sky somehow

Can you imagine what wilder would have been like with densley - I think it's fair to say that he didn't suffer fools gladly

She is by far the worst presenter I can ever remember us having. No one has ever been as bad as her...

It's not just her embarrassing lack of football knowledge but the cringe questioning and bizarre analysis...

When she asked Oglethorpe such gems as...was it really bad defending, can you remember the last time we conceded 5 and when we got the 3rd I really thought we'd get something from the game !!!

When JE explained Revs had a calf injury...and she said was it his ankle! WTF
She also said to JE it must be difficult without a recognised right back in the team...what is NE then?

If she had any clue she would have asked about any more additions to the playing staff, asking if loan or the possibility of any permanent signings coming in and also if there are to be any further additions to the back room staff such as replacement GK and fitness coaches....

She's kin' embarrassingly useless

I am amazed that this thread has run to 5 pages. The amount of vitriol poured out on the poor girl is way OTT. Seems to me too many are behaving badly! It's her job and yes she doesn't impress but to bully her with crass comments is not the Cobblers way. I can live with her because I can remember her scream of triumph when Rico netted the winner against Oxford. She is for us so show some grace and support her.

Hard to support anyone on BBC Northampton for me, living in South Northants as I do the car Radio only stays tuned for a few minutes before it changes to BBC Hereford and Worcester. Northampton is 22 miles from my houses, Worcester is 65 !!!!

Perhaps you should become a moderator then you could censor what everyone says

So you're happy with somebody doing their job badly just so long as they do it badly with gusto?

Why do you say that? It's just my (subjective) opinion.

She is at least trying. Some on here could not do it! So she gets better then what!

Which is what a football message board is all about, people putting across their subjective opinions - you're the one who's constantly sniping and critiquing about other posters

If you like what you are doing- fine! What has my opinion got to do with sniping? Don't let it upset you.

I think most on here can remember when we last conceded 5 and wouldn't confuse your calf with your ankle.
If she gets better then there is no longer a problem. Thought that would be pretty obvious.

Yes. Very trying. ;D

She is nothing short of an ebarassment .
She clearly knows nothing about football and yet the BBC put her in front of the manager to ask searching questions . In some ways I feel sorry for her because it's not her fault she is completely inept .
There's lots of fetes and dog shows she could cover and be great at it .
Leave the football to people that know what they are doing .

The dedicated Cobblers fan, including those that subscribe to a Cobblers forum will despise Caroline Densley for her lack of detailed football knowledge. The general Cobblers fan that goes to a few games a season and keeps mixing up their Bristol City and Rovers, Sheffield United and Wednesday will feel an affinity with her and that's Radio Northampton's target market.

You would have thought so,but some on here are taking a minor issue very seriously. Why worry about a poor young woman making a ham-fisted effort of it. If and when she gets more professional that's fine. Some on here wont forgive/forget.

If she's been doing the job for 12 years, as has been suggested, it seems unlikely she'll suddenly improve

So why hang her out to dry - why not liaise with Radio Npton and give her some guide lines. Pretty sure one or two on here could help her. You and Tel for a start.

That's how I feel about Terry Angus, loved his Liverpool excitement but can't stand listening to him at all.

Fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. She is bad I'm not denying that it just doesn't bother me as much as others, she may get better as she's only on the radio and not on the pitch she can have more time.

Ah Paul Rogers, living proof that Arsenal's academy churned out some s***. How did he get so far as a footballer is beyond me. Wonder if he'd be available instead of Densley  ;D

so you would like me to arrange a meeting with the local radio station in order to offer lessons in how to remember things from two weeks ago before giving a brief rundown on body parts?

Lets not forget she also represents NTFC as her half time  post match stuff is on Cobblers Player, im not renewing with that crap on it .

She clearly needs help ; seems to me you could do a good job! Not sure about body parts tho'.

She sounds hilarious. I wish I could listen to her.

 ;D Just put a cat in a spin-dryer. It'll sound somewhat similar. ;)

Compare her with Isha who does cricket commentaries on Five Live Extra. Isha has fantastic knowledge of the game, she continuously provides insightful comments, has a fantastic sense of humour and provides wonderful clear commentary. Definitely my favourite cricket commentator.

I liked the female interviewer on 5 Live a couple of weeks ago who, after Leicester Tigers sacked Richard Cockerill, asked Aaron Mauger, their Aussie coach "there are reports that you have been deliberating undermining Richard and campaigning behind the scenes against him.  What do you have to say about that?".  Now that's the sort of interviewer I want!  Brave.  FYI, his response was "it's true, we didn't see eye-to-eye". 

You'll never witness brave on Radio Numpty, just remember their lack of cojones when fronted with the Sixfields redevelopment debacle. The truth was slapping them in the face, and still they balked at covering it.

It probably helps that she played over a hundred games for England though.

On the plus side, since Caroline's been commentating/reporting/stumbling/embarassing herself, I've found myself liking Tim Oglethorpe more and more.

Does anyone know what email address you write to complain about her because there is no contact address on the radio Northampton web site ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radionorthampton/help

Thanks mate , I have put my view forward !

Moan moan moan, moan moan moan. Some of you will moan about anything.

Grumpy fuckers! Don't listen if it's that bad. I don't like 99 % of the crap on TV, that's why I only watch 1% or less!

I have had a reply back from Helen Grimes on the poor coverage from Caroline Dearsley.
She claims no one else has complained and she thinks the presenter is excellent at what she does .
Maybe other people would like to email her at the above address ?

That's utter BS because I've emailed and tweeted several times complaining about her. I've never had a reply either. But I suppose that they're going to stick up for colleagues regardless of how bad they are at their job. Though to be fair, it would have been nice to employ someone who knows a little about football.

Most of yesterday the newsreader on BBC Northampton was reporting that police DRIVERS were searching Eastfield Park Lake.
these people have degrees ffs (albeit in media studies).

BBC Northampton has been much the same for many years. To suddenly take issue with it now suggests to me that this all comes out of frustration with how our team is performing.  Tim Oglethorpe is freelance & has done the Cobblers job for a long time with undoubted enthusiasm. Going to northern football outposts on a freezing Tuesday night cannot be anyone's idea of fun.  Sitting in my warm home I am very grateful to him and to local broadcasting for the service provided. I am sure the budget is very tight. On the subject of Caroline Densley I think we need to steer well wide of blatant sexism.  She has much to learn for sure but I can put up with this in return for the live away commentaries. 

I thing Oglethorpe does a decent enough job! He's got a lot of enthusiasm and that comes across sometimes in his commentary!

Don't like his constant use of phrases such as "middle third", and "left wing channel", and also referring to us as being in "Division 1" as opposed to League 1...... ;)

GPC that's a little bit of nit-picking by you 8)

I'm female and have no issue whatsoever with female commentators/presenters/summarisers etc...I do expect any female to be capable of doing the job, in exactly the same way I'd expect a bloke to present Loose Women. Just need to be competent and Caroline Densley clearly is not.

Well done VC , brave and honest comment!

Why?

1/ It won't make the slightest bit of difference in any case.
2/ The poor lady has just started a new job, she's doing her best and in time will get better.

This appears like a witch hunt to me.

She has experience in radio but NOT as a permanent sports presenter. Give her a chance like you would wish for if people complained about the job you were doing. I take it everything you do in your job is perfect, and you have never made a mistake, yes?

"Decent job"....nitpicking?
"Enthusiasm"....nitpicking?

Trust you to only focus on the slightly negative bit........  8)

Whilst Im happy to mock this particular commentator (in a fun way) on a forum such as this, I would struggle to go 3 levels up and make an official complaint about her. She sounds like a nice lady, Im actually feeling a bit sorry for her at the moment!

She's enthusiastic enough. Most of the time I find her mutterings amusing. Indeed, it was only on Saturday on the way home I found myself shouting at the radio. But that was because I was in a right bad mood  ;D

Leave her alone you nasty fcukers! Her 'style' probably goes down well with the masses, its just us sad bar-stewards who take NTFC too bloody seriously who find her annoying at times!

Carson Wishart who is another RN presenter prone to mistakes and inane bumbling has just played Liquidator so he has gone up in my estimation.

Well put together post/comments

A great post on the matter. I agree with all of it.
Bloody hell people talk about Northamptonians reverting to type!
I actually like her and think she will develop into a decent commentator/ reporter. I love Tim Oglethorpe's kind of old fashioned 200 mile an hour coomentary too. One criticism of the football commentary is that they need to get a decent pubdit in as much as they can. I don't really know what Gareth Willshire can add to commentary that say anyone on this board could ( actually there's some on here that would be very entertaining :) )
The Saints guy is pretty good too got immersed in some great WW1 documentaries, which were very interesting and moving.
Bernie Keith is a top draw presenter and has got me turning over at work from Ken Bruce. Treasure Quest is a good entertaining three hours on a Saturday, trouble is it clashed with Danny Baker.
There are some shows which aren't so good but my radio has a tuning button and an off button.
 All in all the sports coverage from RN is pretty good, we are very lucky.
Older supporters need to think back a few years when sometimes you would only find out the Cobblers result by looking in the morning paper next day.

This.
Okay, so she isn't doing great at the moment, but neither did that Joe Townsend fella when he started. And he certainly got better.
Seriously, if anyone would try and get her bounced from the job, just because they don't like her style. Jeeez! Just turn your radio off/over if you're not happy. There really are some sad f***ers.

It's not about her 'style', it's about her inability to string together a legible sentence which actually makes some sense. I agree she sounds a nice lady, not disputing this. When you're employed on a football programme, it does help to have basic knowledge, ask players and management relevant questions and think about what you're saying before you mumble and stutter. And when a manager tells you a player has injured his calf, don't proceed to ask him if it's his ankle. That's just embarrassing.

People are missing the point here .
The supporters have one chance to listen to a managers post match comments and there is one person selected to ask the questions .
If that one person knows nothing about football and is not taken seriously , we as supporters learn nothing .
It's not a case of switching over because there is no other choice .
This lady has been employed as a sports reporter and she is out of her depth . Unfortunately , her boss doesn't appear to think so according to her letter back to me and so that's where the problem lies .

To be honest, the questions I want asking have never been asked in any case! For example, not once did Rob Page get asked why he made certain subs or indeed why he didn't make any subs (most of the time!). Apart from when this lady did, AND it was very awkward (but funny)!  ;D

They never seem to 'go over the boundary' or 'question a managers decision making' and its the same with the Chron guys. Im pretty sure its in their remit to avoid anything confrontational.

So your only ever going to get the usual soundbites etc. Thats just the way it is. And like someone else said, if she had of asked about players signing etc, JE would have just trotted out the usual 'were trying our hardest' etc. It is what it is mate, Caroline or whoever else is doing the job!

I would say from above post that you appear to be missing the point - completely!

Don't understand why you dislike her so much as to run her down as you do. Seems a very dispassionate way to treat somebody relatively new in a job.

For someone who was moaning that this thread was 6 pages long the other day you're doing a good job of prolonging it even more. Also, nothing that mitsymad said can be construed as personal or vitriolic criticism - it is her opinion on what she is like at her job

You sure are the arbiter of free speech ::). I said was surprised that it had reached 5 pages on a minor issue.I am merely responding to those who offer unfair and somewhat spiteful criticism. Mitzy comments are unfair and do contain an element of 'unjustified' criticism. I am surprised that you do not consider the forthcoming game v Coventry instead of railing on and on a hapless young woman.

You admit she's hapless then? ;D

I can't believe I'm letting myself get dragged into this again but yet again I strongly dispute that any of the criticism on this thread has been spiteful or vitriolic, it has been valid feedback based on numerous examples that in the grand scheme of things won't change anything as radio Northampton don't seem concerned or even register with Caroline densely personally as I'm sure she doesn't even know that this board exists.

I do worry about you  ::) - as they say on here keep up. I have been saying she is "hapless" or similar since page 5. Either that you fail to interpenetrate "hapless" correctly. Bit of a whoooosh really.

I am surprised too , but all you have to do is reread the thread and some of the comments on Miss Densley are unjustified and pathologically unfair.

Incidentally Miss Densely is a very attractive person.

I don't quite see how the fact that she is attractive is relevant - could be construed as being sexist  :P. Anyway we'll agree to disagree, the proof will be in the pudding on her Thursday evening show and at 2pm on Saturday - I'm sure we'll be provided with some more radio gold.

As I've previously stated, nothing against her personally whatsoever, my comments are aimed at how well she does her job. As a female, I think its great that she's been employed to cover what has always been a very 'male orientated' sport. However, it genuinely sounds to me like she just 'wings' it and fills her time mumbling, stumbling and 'erming'. For someone who obviously watched the Franchise game (as did I) to go on after the game and say our defence was not too bad, and give an cringey interview with JE...I think it's a ploy...she's so bad that people won't listen to the match anymore but rather buy a match ticket? Perhaps, but for those of us who cannot make every game, Saturday afternoons are destined to be frustrating whatever the score...

Never argue with a Lady chaps!

A neutral observation, I have no agenda with regards this thread: according to her LinkedIn profile said presenter has worked at 10 different radio stations over the last 12 years or so. One might assume that she is either considered as being very good and consistently head-hunted, or ...........................

You know that sentence makes no sense, right?

I would love to have heard her interview Chris Wilder after a poor performance .
She would have been eaten alive .
Too many PC people on here .
The bottom line is that she is inept and needs to be kept away from football interviews .
Mind you , she's even worst with rugby !

Well I am glad you got the gist of it! But you are quite right - should read interpretate. Hope that helps!

Sorry Evers that doesn't make sense either - third time lucky?!

Which part confuses you - Einstein? Glad to help.

The interpretate part - I think you meant interpret

 ;D He's like a gift that keeps on giving. Bless him ;D

I am also a woman and have been interpenetrated on a number of occasions by a Great Dane.

Is that even legal? :o ;D

No such word as  "interpretate"  so yr right.

I used to deliver the green / pink un, on a Saturday evening. Cash on delivery, keep the change kid, far better than a normal paper round!

She probably would have interrupted him mid-rant away at Notts County  :P ;D

Exactly. I don't want to switch off because I want to hear the manager's and players thoughts and get answers to the type of questions us supporters would like want to ask. That's why you need a competent person at the helm. I also like to hear others insightful views on the game. At the moment we're not getting any of that.

I don't think you can compare Caroline Densley with Joe Townsend, the difference being that Joe co-commentated on games and did a great job. So much so that Sky now employ him. Crikey, could you imagine her commentating on matches? Now that really would be worth listening to!

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Well maybe she should interview one or two experts from here. Players and managers and staff from personal experience toe the line these days. They ain't gonna say anything unless like Notts County away last season there are exceptional circs.

Spot on !
That's why it does matter .
I suspect she was employed because there is a trend in recent years for " fans representatives " as opposed to traditional journalists - as illustrated by programmes like Soccer AM for example .
There is s place for both , but don't give her the job of talking to the manager before or after the game , just get her chatting to the supporters outside Carrs Bar !

what are you on about?

Of course they will answer questions, you know, about the game that everyone just watched and listened to. Things like:

What was the thinking behind the midfield diamond?
Do you think it left us a little exposed on the wings?
Why did you choose Matty Taylor as the anchor of the diamond rather than one of the other positions?
We seemed to press the opposition the opposotion well for the first 20 mins and then sat off a bit, was that intentional or is it something we need to work on further?
What was the thinking behind the Substitions/formation changes/personnel changes? etc etc etc.

Radio northampton dont ask any FOOTBALL questions. Its all... how are you feeling? How do you think it went? Are you happy?

Exactly right .
Supporters want more searching questions , without being over intrusive .
I think Townsend tried to do that but was up against a difficult character in Wilder who could be contrary .
Page got a totally easy ride from the media and so far I have learnt nothing about JED's intentions .
There's only one thing worst than CD asking questions ,and that's Lee Harper - by the time he has got to the end of his sentence , everyone has switched off, turned the floodlights off , swept the changing rooms and started watching MOTD....

Compare this to their Saints coverage, which is hugely in-depth and analytical. It's almost like they dumb down the stuff for Cobblers fans...

Blimey Patts, did you lose your glasses?

er yes and I forgot to preview, done now! :o
Points made after my post are pretty valid so if I'm allowed to change my opinion?
Could do better is my new opinion.
Listened to a bit of the saints show last night it's very good, so will listen to football show tonight see if it's improved.

Fair enough Pattcobb, i honestly think that is the first time i have seen someone say 'i have considered others' points on this topic and my view has now changed' on this forum !

It's not known as Radio Saints for nothing, you know? ;)

Radio Northampton ? Twitter that's the way forward for scores and information.

Yeah I often see the manager doing a q and a on Twitter at about 5 on Saturdays

Listened to the Thursday Football Show earlier with guest Gregg Wylde and in review. It was OK bit cringeworthy in places but acceptable imho.
Sure she called him Chris Wild at one stage.
As I've said earlier your not going to get anything inciteful from a player, but he was adamant the dressing room spirit was good.
Some of the dumb ass nuts and bolts questions CD asked were quite good, it is interesting to know players' paths to Cobblers, who he knows in the squad, some of the characters in the dressing room. But she needs to be careful not to ask the same old, same old to every player that comes in as a guest.
All in all it's a decent enough programme, but again my take would be  could do better.

So the lovely Caroline is showing signs of compatibility with the experts on here?

Evers just because you've got a crush on her doesn't mean she's immune to criticism.

Ah ...I thought so, a young mans fancy. Pretty sure you will put her right in the idiosyncrasies of Cobblers folk lore.

Yeah, i dont have an issue with the hour long show on a thursday. It is always a more relaxed 'get to know the player' type thing. Of course we shouldnt expect to be getting any information on tactics for the next fixture etc.

Its the matchday manager interviews that i have an issue with. These should be analytical football questions about the game that just occured. Getting to the bottom of why we lost or why won, what worked and what didnt work with the formation, how the substitions affected the game and what was the managers thinking behind them etc.

She's so bad at what she does it's laughable, but fair play to her if someone's willing to pay her for the nonsense she drives out.

Now now KC. You know by the quality of the well thought out reasoned posts on here that they have never been crap at anything(in their eyes at least) since the day they popped out of the womb.

You simply have to question how sweet Caroline ever got the Gig in the first place.

She is sooo bad..... she almost has you listening to hear what on earth is going to be uttered next ???

I wish her well, but there has to be certain standards.

Perhaps she is heading for Cult Status.

 ;D  - wonder if their mothers know better!

Yes , she's fine at this sort of radio presentation with a bit of mild banter going on .....
Just don't ask her to even begin understanding why the manager uses a diamond formation or false number 9 after the game though.....,
Keep her in the studio where it's warm and let the football folk ask the questions

This thursday she referred to her time away travelling in Nepal before she got this job.
She's a hippie, hippies don't do football, get rid.

Can we get rid of you aswell, now that would be good.

Bit harsh KC - might be 2 or 3 others more deserving.

Probably a bit harsh, I also agree with the 2 or 3 more deserving  ;D

Well, unless it's St Pauli!  ;D

Have you not seen the dude who sits just to the right of the goal in the north. You couldn't make him more hippie if you tried. So you are wrong, don't get all heavy about it though  :afro

He sat behind me a Milton Keynes as well...

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Tell them about the honey mummy...

Yes. The strange thing is, with a good mate of mine supporting Hamburg I've always looked out for their results.

No, I'll take a look today, sure it's not just a disguise he puts on to go down Sixfields?
I meant it as a joke but I should have included the appropriate smiley,. I wish Caroline no harm, I'm sure she'll be presenting the gymkhana on Skysports before we know it.

I didn't see him today  :( I did however see an old man in the west stand sporting a Fez  :P

I take it that Caroline was faultless this week or a few of you smashed your radios as suggested  ;D The police are in the spotlight this week I suppose. I wonder who will be in for a slagging next week?  ;D

the highways agency on the m6

I listened to her after the game , no problem for me as she did OK bit girlie at times  - we had just won a game.

 It probably did make a difference having won .... but she was absolutely fine. It was also much better with Terry Angus ! 

She forgot to ask JE if there would be anymore incoming, but we did get her revelation that she three times failed her GCSE maths.
I don't think she was joking.

Shouldn't think she is alone on this, although 3 attempts seem a bit fanciful. She was on TV to.

PS Sorry folks, have removed poor comment.

Well done evers.  ;)

Somebody pass Evers a tissue :o

Oh dear what a sexist W@nker

She was slightly better this week but she didn't need to show an understanding of football .
She brought up how narrow we played in the first half and I think panicked because she was out of her depth .
Pity she didn't interview the inspector of police after the game this week.

If she failed maths multiple times it could be any number! How can we trust her to have counted to three?!

Language Timothy!

"todays win has taken us up to 16th place with 33 points"

Tim - "Your looking at last weeks table"

 ;D ;D

(I like her, and I like her 'Kam like' cock ups!)  ;D

Commitments ensured that I listened to virtually the whole show yesterday. Result obsviously helps but I thought it was a good show. Nice to hear Benji at ht and negotiated his availability for future commentaries live on air! Lee Harper is a good pundit too.
What comes across to me is how good Justin Edinburgh is when interviewed. Very straight forward and honest and dare I say it very similar to Chris Wilder.

It seems turned in to a daytime local radio talk show. All it needs is some grannies calling in to talk about gardening.

I thought that Kevin Shoemaker did ok too - plenty of decent banter and leg pulling.

Sounds good  ;)

I personally would love to hear Bernie Keith commentating on the football. Can you imagine some of the comments he would come out with  ;D

Got back to the car, switched Radio Northampton on hoping for match comments, other scores, anything interesting. We got about 10 minutes of "jokey" chat about a photo of Terry Angus and "banter" between Shoemake and Lee Harper. Amateurish nonsense.

Yes, because 'banter' is what I want from post match analysis.

Loved it - I suppose the feelgood factor helped. Good job you don't listen to Test Match commentaries then, plenty of "amateurish nonsense" going on.
Or how about James Alexander Gordon reading out the classified football results with Forfar Athletic 4 East Fife 5 - still the funniest thing on radio. By the way is it Shoemake or Shoemaker?

I'm with you. Utter drivel. It wouldn't have been so bad if they'd actually had Terry Angus on at the time. I bet she'll drag it back out the next time he is on so everyone will get to hear the thrilling story of her being a mascot all over again.

Couldn't agree more .
Get her off the radio and give us someone that can ask the manager a meaningful question .
I could not care less about a programme her father gave her with Angus' picture in it .
She is nothing short of useless and out of her depth .
Embarrassment .

Turn it into a phone in, that'd be better. I do appreciate though that we do have a dedicated Cobblers show.

I've got to agree that she is slightly easier to bear when we have won the match but the fact is that a couple of weeks ago she forgot to ask JED about the transfer window and then on Saturday she neglected to ask him about the status of the injured players both questions that should really have been automatic. Why don't they get Oglethorpe to do the managers interview - I appreciate that he can be annoying too but at least he has a semblance of cobblers knowledge?

The difference is that TMS goes on for hours with lulls in play. This prog is supposed to be informative with comments and tell you what's been going on that afternoon. No results or league tables or anything similar during all the time I took to drive home. I think it is Shoemake?

No 606 shows and the like are utter drivel. X manager should go. Y referee was terrible. It's just supporters moaning if they lose and celebrating if they win.
I'd sooner hear some more irrelevant stuff.
"ever had your name announced on the stadium tannoy?"
"ever been hit by the ball at a professional football match?"
"ever seen a player in full or part kit away from a match?"
"things you have got into football grounds"
"ever heard the words "what are YOU doing in here sir/madam?"
Players never say anything worth hearing, managers rarely do, so why bother with all that anyway.

i listened on Saturday. She really isn't so bad. There's only so many times you can ask lee harper to give his opinions on the match while you're waiting for oglethorpe to interview the players or chuck middleton to phone in with the Corby report, so the angus thing was fine. Also her interview with edinburgh was alright. She didn't ask him anything daft like Joe used to with wilder now and again (as much as I liked him).

She asked Eardley about being worried about his place now that Gabby is back

I think she needs to be promoted to Radio Nene Valley, Northampton Hospital's Radio Station before the start of next season!!!

Had the Drive Time show on tonight. Carson Wishart said that there was going to be an interview of JJOT by Tim Oglethorpe recorded on Saturday. There then followed an interview with Eardley by Caroline whatsit recorded after the Walsall game. After it Wishart said thanks to Tim for that interview! So wrong player, wrong interviewer and wrong time apart from that ....

;D id switched off by then as was busy preparing for Bernie Keith's rock and roll heaven

Just how much preparation does that entail? :o  ;D

You are on form tonight ;)

 ::)

Another decent show last night, a win helps matters of course?
Gregor Robertson an eloquent and knowlegdable pundit from our recent history. Oglethorpe at his near combustable best.
One thing is for sure, I really need to get to a game soon 😀

Robertson was excellent. I think BBC Radio Northampton's football coverage will/would only get better if/when the Cobblers climb the leagues, making the football role a more attractive one for a young journo.

Credit where it's due, she seemed a lot better on Tuesday with far fewer interminable tangents and bringing in Sam Parkin to give a Swindon perspective was a good idea. I only heard 25 minutes or so either side of the match but those parts at least were fine.

Bit of a laugh if your radio failed to work.

I think Radio Northampton is already held in high regard, not only due to the 3 pro teams (only Leicester can match that), and alumni such as Sewell, Wilkinson and now Townsend who have all gone onto better things.

The only thing that lets it down is the word 'Northampton'

I'm sorry but Caroline is just...well, crap!! I really thought she'd get better, but she hasn't. Saturday after the game she read out last weeks table as the updated one. I don't want to hear her story about her programme collection and one with Terry Angus in. I do expect an experienced journo who can give me facts about my club, my team and the match. Evidently this is too difficult for Radio Northampton to sort.

Blimey sheer sexist remarks and nasty beef about RN too. Here's me thinking you were a fair minded liberal :-[

Where are the sexist remarks?

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So you can't see them?

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None in that last post but plenty over the thread.

Not in what you quoted. Please enlighten us all...

Read and reread and still struggling to spot the accused sexist remark. I don't give a rats bum what sex the presenter/commentator/summariser etc is, as I have stated in my previous comments on this thread. I just want someone who is competent at doing their job. And I'm female, so very pleased for a woman to be given that job in what has always been a male dominated sport......I just think she's useless. But that's my opinion, and many disagree. Fair minded liberal? You don't even know me...

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Calling a woman crap as starter to a post says it all. You can read Mitzi post so if it seems ok to you ......that's your choice.I know from past dealings that you and I have different values. I find it difficult to defend the indefensible.

I think people misunderstand Caroline Densley's role. She represents the part time supporter, those who don't know their Rovers from their Cities. It stops the show being a closed shop of nerds discussing the intricate points of the game and boring everyone else. People on an unofficial club message board are bound to hate her ignorance and that will cement her job.

he's called the presenter crap, it just so happens the presenter is a woman. it's not sexist. or are you suggesting sexism can only be applied towards women?

Calling a woman 'crap'...I'd use the same word if this was a bloke in question - so now YOU'RE being sexist! It's an opinion. So you don't need to defend my opinion thankyou very much.

Oh come on, Northampton isn't THAT bad is it? I mean it could be worse we could be Peterborough or Poxford.....and we are at least half a stand better than them!

Saying your female makes it all more difficult to understand why you criticised the presenter in the manner you
did.

Still waiting for you to clarify just exactly what part of the post was sexist

We are very lucky to get the coverage we do. Think Bury, Leyton Orient, Barnet buried amongst huge clubs in their local radio areas respectively.

Because it makes no difference to me the sex of someone. I'd say the same thing to members of both sexes. So please no can you establish to everyone which part of my post was actually sexist??

 
I thought that Mitzi was a woman. "It just so happens that the presenter is a woman" ........as if ::)
Mitzi went out of her way to criticise Caroline in such a manner all to readily misunderstood. Sexism was a term generally applied by woman against man. You get far more claims by women against men ; as shown by Women's Lib. You don't read of many cases the other way round.

Really don't understand what the sex of someone has to do with this post. I've quite clearly stated that I'd say the same words to both sexes because I'm NOT sexist. Crap means crap. I'm not going to put flowers on it and make it sound pretty because Caroline is female. THAT would be sexist. Some people are failing to grasp that I really don't care. I just want someone (regardless of sex, age, race, religion etc) who can do the job. It's the same anywhere, in any role. For example if I took my car into a garage to be worked on (typically being a mechanic is a male dominated job) I wouldn't care if a male or female worked on it, so long as they fix it properly.

I have told you

This is another thread along with all the Page ones created by Cobbler78 that is a total waste of time.

She is Radio Northampton's sports presenter. Get over it!

No you haven't. You've skimmed over the question whilst trying to insult me. My post may not have been particularly nice though I did only say she was crap. Hardly wounding words. Nothing in my posts are sexist, just maybe in your mind.

This is true, though it doesn't mean that other people on this forum can't discuss it.

 

I have; your opening salvo said it all.

Which makes no sense. Saying someone is crap is slightly offensive but not sexist.

You're really going to need to quote the exact words you found sexist because all I'm seeing at the minute is a whole lot of blustering and trying to dodge the issue because you know that you've no idea what you're on about

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If you think you may have caused "slightly offensive" (remarks) you could consider withdrawing them? Please note that this is only a comment for your consideration. Nothing else.

quote..............."I'm sorry but Caroline is just...well, crap!!"

The only proviso I would make that at the time was unaware of the gender of poster.

I do know your tactics - if you are not given the answer you require then I am sorry. The remarks outlined above are unjustified and I interpreted them as callous and sexist. You clearly do not agree and as you are the board owner you have the final say!

How on earth is that sexist?! Are the people that posted "rob page is crap" sexist as well?  I'm not sure you understand what the word means

" I'm not sure you understand what the word means" Well you would say that wouldn't you.

On Mr Page : Privately I actually agreed with them particularly after Stourbridge , never used that kind of language about him on here tho'. I took the advice from one of your colleagues about how we comment on Mr Page. Also in the terms and condition clauses below there is ample warning about making defamatory comments about individuals.

You're rambling

Oi you lot, stop picking on my besty. He made an inappropriate remark and upon reflection and a little gentle persuasion removed it and apologised.  :)

No. 'Crap' is hardly even a swear word, I'm sure you hear much worse at Sixfields. If someone is in the public eye then they should be prepared for comments and opinions, both good and bad. I really can't see Caroline being offended by the word, I'm sure she's made of stronger stuff than that. But then that is what a forum is for, to voice opinions and nit everyone is going to agree. Still quite shocked that somebody is picking about the word 'crap'....and still trying to work out how this could in any way be sexist. Would you have said I was sexist if I said it about Tim Oglethorpe??

If the crap fits.

Hey, Evers. In the good ol' bad old days, back when football was fun, did you ever song 'get your tits out for the lads' at the lady coppers? ;)

Flask has five letters  :P

Shouldn't think she is alone on this, although 3 attempts seem a bit fanciful. She was on TV too; not quite the beauty I hoped for but quite acceptable if you are down on your luck.

This is sexist, eh everbrite, ever hypocritical

Oh, bless you, Evers - you've just brightened my morning! It's a shame Harry Enfield or Catherine Tate don't have sketch shows on TV any more or you could pitch yourself as a character... "Right, there's this old dinosaur who wants to prove he's down with the kids by taking offense on their behalf at all these new fangled issues they get worked up about these days, even though he doesn't really understand what they mean..."

Good luck

Oxford is a world renowned university city known for its gleaming spires. Peterborough is a centre of commerce for the Fens and a major transport hub.

Northampton has a branch of Screwfix.

so if i said 'I'm sorry but TOM is just...well, crap!!' and tom just happened to be a black gay man, then i am being Sexist, Racist and homophobic?

Without actually making reference to any of those things and certainly not claiming that TOM is crap BECAUSE of those things, it is not any of the above types of discrimination.

You clearly don't understand discrimination and you don't understand the word 'Sexism'

gleaming?

Northampton in the 60's was a really nice market town but then along came the planners who thought it might be a good idea to tear down The Convent and erect a concrete monstrosity called a bust station in the town centre. And that was just the start. I don't live in Northampton any more but it breaks my heart whenever I see again what's happened to it.

The bus station was famously made of bricks not concrete

Nothing wrong with Northampton.... always hear of people moving away and saying how much they miss it.

You don't realise until you've moved away, nothing wrong with the place..... people are always more critical of where they are from/live.

Pure rhetorical rubbish. Are you so hard hearted as not to show any sympathy for a young woman under constant and more often than not  'unjustified' criticism. Please try and spare me your high moral PC stance on discrimination and sexism, the hat doesn't fit.


 

I like Northampton - with decent Parks as well. Home to Avon too!

Exactly! Nothing wrong with it :)

2/3 eyesores tho' in the Chron site, Greyfriars and St Edmunds :-[

How I miss the Convent, and how ridiculous building a bus station in the town centre.

All this tit for tat involving Everbrite and his oppos regarding CD must be warming the hearts of Radio Northampton's editorial board.
Programme managers: "Keep this argument going lads and lassies, no such thing as bad publicity, there'll be loads more listening in next match to see if Caroline has upped her game...."

The only think I missed when I moved away were the Cobblers and Steelbacks. There's really not much else to miss IMO.

At what point did i say i have no sympathy? I feel that some of the criticism is justified and some of it is not.

You took a specific Quote and claimed it sexist, it objectively wasn't. You have thus far failed to demonstrate how it was Sexist, and dismiss my queston as rhetorical rubbish.

I suspect this is because you are full of sh*t and you now can't justify your original comment, so instead are trying to deflect the argument to how cold hearted i am rather than actually give an answer to Marquis, myself or anyone else that has pulled you up on your BS comment.

For the sake of balance, I think Oglethorpe is sh*t too, as I have said previously.

In my opinion, Mitsymad didn't post anything sexist in her original post, although she criticised her that in her opinion she wasn't very good.
Some like her (CD) and some don't, that is the way of the world...

I have no desire to prolong whether the comment was sexist or not, some more informed posters have said it wasn't and have no problem with their verdict. I still think your reply contained a fair amount of judgemental rhetoric which I am not sure is truly yours. 

I agree with your verdict Deepcut.

Please accept my apologies Mitsymad for misunderstanding your criticism of 'CD' as a sexist comment.

Rebelspawn's comment was measured and an accurate reflection of the situation. Sorry, but it was.

I'm sorry, but why bring this into it? This is 2017 and I don't appreciate reading this racist comments.

Hoping that Caroline has a good day today  8)
UCD

A bust station...now there's a thought!!!!!

No worries. At the end of the say, a forum is a platform for us fans to share our views and opinions and we can't all be the same, otherwise it would all be very boring!

She so bad at what she does it's hilarious.

Densely's off - "can you name a footballer with less than 8 letters in their name....Mark Bunn!!!"

I think Tim is just fine. Real fan and a pretty good broadcaster too.

I like Caroline❤️  Playing better than our defence

Haha! Be careful, you'll be accused of sexism 

The new Chron Facebook live is not bad.

Tim is a good broadcaster - brain, voice and insight are not wanting.

Caroline is improving - and Ogerlitrop is a good commentator. He speaks with a passion and captures the enthusiasm that you would hope for if you were there. It's easy to knock local radio, but it does raise the importance of the moment for it's audience.

Didn't she say Bunn not Mark Bunn. Therefore, referring to players surnames!

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So has Caroline improved and/or becoming a legend; no complaints from the usual suspects?

Probably at the game weren't it bruv and thus slightly out of radio Northampton's reach

She was excellent yesterday until she opened her mouth.

As for Ogelthorpe he slightly over cooked it for me whilst commentating on the contest

Grossly unfair in my opinion.
I think the fact Caroline is female means she has to do twice as much as any male broadcaster would to prove herself in the eyes of some on this forum.
Twenty first century folks.
To use a powerful t-shirt campaign close to my heart.

SOME SPORTS BROADCASTERS ARE FEMALE
GET OVER IT!

Well done pattcobb. My thoughts exactly and for this thread to be going on and on and on for so long is incredible.

It's all a female thing no matter what anyone says to suggest otherwise.

BBC Northampton is not exactly Sky Sports on the road. Budget has much to do with this so unless you want to pay more for your licence be grateful for the local service provided. Occasionally, I have tuned in to other local BBC stations' football commentaries and our local station stands up well.  Give Caroline a chance & remember how wet behind the ears was Joe Townsend when he joined the station.  He grew into the job before he was seduced by Sky and disappeared from planet earth.  Tim O does a good job and is a committed journalist and Cobblers' supporter.  My Saturdays when we are away would be a lot poorer without him.

There was a female commentator on one of the MotD games last night. Listening to her, she was saying most of the right things that the male commentators would say but it wasn't the same.
I couldn't get it out of my mind that she sounded like a young prepubescent teenage boy who had won a competition...

Yep it was cringeworthy and wasn't very convincing either.

The only aspect of the coverage I find disappointing is the use of Gareth Wilshire as a summeriser.  He's not in a position to provide fair, unbiased analysis.

Same here and I had to mute it I'm afraid.

Not anti women in sports broadcasting at all, Gaby Roslin is a first class sports presenter in my opinion.

Agree, presenting isn't a problem, I would add Kelly Cates to Gaby, but commentating is slightly different...

They will have one do Rugby Union soon.

the image that conjoured up

Gaby Logan (Yorath) not Roslin  ;)

So where does Jacqui Oatley fit in the World of female sports presenters/commentators?

Stop moaning about radio npton don't listen to it if u don't like what u hear go to the ground and watch if not put sky sports news on

Well... For me. I think she's a stunner. 😍

She's s***e on it's darts coverage,  hasn't a clue,  but then neither do half of the rest of their team, and they're male.

I think Tim is excellent. Commentary is a very difficult skill - he manages to not only paint a good picture of what's happening on the pitch, but also add the passion that you need at local radio level. Add to that his knowledge of everything NTFC for many many years and he is the right man for the job.

To be fair to Caroline I think she is improving. They have it right by only having her present (and not commentate!). I agree that ex players are a better option than Gareth for the un-biased analysis (no criticism on him), but to be fair they do utilise ex players whenever it makes geographical sense.

The only criticism I have of Caroline is in her post game interviews with JED. She asks all the usual questions which is fine, but we no longer get the slightly controversial questions that (for example) Joe asked CW back in Joe's early days. Tim also asks better questions, as do the summarisers on the odd occasion they have been involved. For me it would work better if Tim and/or the summariser chipped in with follow up questions once Caroline has done the basics.

A lot of the comments on here are dinosaur priceless!
It's probably a good idea if some men got the hang of the idea that women not only watch football but also forge a career in the sports media. It's similar to the cringeworthy comments you get from some male passengers when a female pilot welcomes them aboard a flight.

Thanks AP, wrong Gaby I got there!!

Always remember the "wag" on a schools trip to Germany, when the pilot informed us we were leaving French air space and heading into Germany - murmuring "bombs away". Nobody laughed at all. ............thank goodness.

Says one who was sent off in a Sunday afternoon Hockey Game v Wellingborough(at St Andrews) by a lady umpire. Didnt like it then did  you ;)

You mean I may have been on a plane flown by a woman. Why was that allowed to happen?

I don't mind a bird pilot, as long as theres a couple of mail co-pilots to take over the controls just in case her period starts mid flight and all rational thoughts leave her highly complex mind.

And to land the bloody thing. ;D Seriously, can you imagine a woman trying to park it on one of those tiny Mediteranean runways? :o ;D

I think this is very poor form by you; you are flying in the face of liberal opinion on here and mocking their views. To make it worse it is littered with spelling errors and bad language. On a more lighthearted note both USA and Russia Commercial Airlines boast fully fledged woman pilots. Would I prefer a woman pilot ...............no.

Maybe they'll have the ex chairman in next week as well  ::)

One or two threads recently on this forum have sadly indicated to me that the world in general and this country have an awful long way to go before they can claim to be civilised.
FFS people this is the 21st century.
Many of the recent "overclever" posts are in actual fact a bit of a disgrace.

I listened in for the first time in ages last Saturday and was pleasantly surprised with the fare on offer. I was expecting total rubbish due to this thread, but Tim did a good job as did the others. We would all soon moan if radio Northampton stopped coverage and just commentated on the egg chasers. 

Somewhere a pond is missing its 'life' patt. Don't worry, they will schlep their carcasses back under the surface when the fad for being deliberately offensive has passed.

A very good point.

It's pretty patronising to defend someone because they are a woman, don't you think?

This thread is only kept going because people can't understand how some of us dare to criticise a woman. They probably wouldn't bat an eyelid if the criticism was aimed at a man, and they have the audacity to call me sexist!! At the end of the day, if that person, regardless of sex, was capable at their job then this thread wouldn't have even been started. Yet this forum would be really boring if we all agreed. An argument and a coffee of a morning is what keeps me going 

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I like Mitsy - this thing about a coffee ☕️ is that a general invite?

Correct. But I don't. I don't defend a man because he's a man, or a rhinocerous because it's a rhinocerous.

You better pour yourself a coffee mitsy, because I still think amongst some people posting on this thread that the underlying trend is towards sexism.

Depends if you're buying, everbrite  ;)

Grab your coat Evers, you've pulled!  ;)

It has sounded with the last couple of home games as if Dimwitsley has been demoted with Oglethorpe taking the lead.  If anyone thinks that my views are sexist, then I would argue that the other Numpty newcomer, Carson Witch4rse is even worse.  In the space of 30 seconds a couple of weeks ago I heard him refer to our match at "Walsall Town", our upcoming fixture at "Sixways", "casting dispersions at someone" and a complete and utter inability to be able to enunciate the  word "meteorological".  The bloke is a blithering idiot.  As for the Dimwit, I have completely switched off after her Thursday interview with Marcus Law a few weeks ago.  It was patronising twaddle.

So could you please advise what I should do to find out about The Cobblers if I can't make the game and I haven't got Sky Sports?

Helen Grimes , Caroline's boss , thinks she is great and has adapted to the job well .
She also seems surprised at criticism in her correspondence back to me and others .
Clearly she feels football coverage should be more informal and "chatty" as opposed to knowledgeable and informative . We as supporters want the opposite which is why most of us think she is absolutely useless .
Perhaps people that listen to the station all week are happy with the banal drivel that a presenter like that spouts .

the clubs website

And what if you'd like a more non biased view? Remember, the club kept publishing photographs to con the fans into thinking that building work was still ongoing when it was clear to anybody with eyes and a brain that it had stopped.

Erm..

The clubs website.
The clubs twitter account.
The clubs Facebook account.
Twitter in general.
Facebook in general.
A sports website.
A mobile football app.
BBC final score on the red button.
BT Sports score centre.
Radio 5 live.
Talk Sport.
A bookies.
Look East.
Goal rush on channel 5.
Sunday morning papers?

Or start a campaign to bring back 'the pink un'

I did move away from there in 2007 but even then internet was available in Old Stratford.

TheHotelEnd of course!  :D

Starmer78 is on a windup

not on a windup just stating the obvious

Its just that (some) info from the Club can be misleading - particularly in the Cardoza era.

true can't argue with that

Oh you accept that now do you? I won't hold my breath for an apology.

I am sorry that I did not immediately heed the warnings made by some on here, but joined at a later date to support the Trust and donated to the appeal. Its a pity that so many of the "protestors" did not attend that fateful Trust Meeting Feb 2015 where only Inest challenged DC on the situation. Considering the vociferous opinion of some on here that's pretty disappointing?
 

Their Saints coverage is knowledgeable and informative...

Well thanks for speaking for all of us...
Some people take football far far too seriously these days. I'm sure a lot of people prefer chatty and informal.
I'd sooner hear funny stories than yet another "we go again" "great spirit in the dressing room" "work hard in training"
The hour after the game on Saturdays could be a phone in?

'Phone in'? and get the self appointed experts on here being 'knowledgeable and informative'........................impossible!

The vast majority of people that go to the game want a post match analysis or summary . Unfortunately I suspect many more listeners do not go to the game and are bored by this .

Er NO. The vast majority I see go straight to the pub after to discuss/slag off/get p1ssed and not necessarily in that order. Never have I heard someone say I must rush home and listen to the post match analysis on radio Northampton.

well now you have... You know that the vast majority of cars are equipped with fm radio, right? and based on the number of cars leaving the car park after the game, i would guess a reasonable percentage of them are listening to radio Northampton as they queue to get out of sixfields. i am one of them, and i want to hear a summary of the game, tactical analysis and interviews with the manager and players. I dont want to hear general chit chat about completely unrelated things. there are plenty of other shows (radio or other medium) for that.

Me too. I go back to my car, switch on the radio and listen to what the manager, pundits and players made of the game on my way home. As the car parks empty out pretty quickly and most cars have multiple occupants I'm pretty sure that covers off the "vast majority" of home supporters (although they may not all have their radios on)

True, at least until we leave Radio Northamptonland...

Well , I disagree with you. Of course many of us leaving Sixfields will listen to Radio Npton. Perhaps the summarizes will spend a little time on how the Cobbs played, but it rarely reaches the in depth heights you and few others seem to crave. Invariably after a time Kevin Shoemaker or Terry Angus will resort to some sort of light hearted banter. In fact I don't think Radio Npton is for you or your ilk; too serious by far. I enjoy some of the banter particularly that displayed by Terry Angus. Alternatively you and others could lighten up and just enjoy whats on offer.

Which part do you disagree with?

That most cars have FM radio?
That a reasonable percentage of cars will be listening to radio northampton upon leaving the game?
Or you disagree that I (thats me, rebelspawn) want to hear football related talk on the radio northampton football show?

Doesnt seem like there is much there to disagree with to be honest...

Maybe a football related show on radio Northampton isnt for you and your ilk, and you should stick to Bernie in the mornings instead.

I seem to be in the minority but I can't stand that twonk and the inane drivel he spouts. It's funny, I remember my parents moaning about Radio Northampton when I was a kid and how it was just a load of old biddies phoning in to blather on about nothing. Now they've retired they seem to listen to it all the while and refer to the DJs by first name as if they know them. Particularly "old Bernie". Maybe it's an age thing...

That's factually incorrect . Most people don't go to the pub after the game - they get in the car and go somewhere else .
Of those that get in the car , I would say a good majority listen to radio northampton coverage / radio 5 / talksport .

Your missing the point - you wont get an in depth match report on Radio Npton. The pundits will dwell on some issues ; but criticisms will be relatively mild of both players, tactics and manager. Soon or later Terry Angus and co will revert to some form of banter. I enjoy  Radio Npton in its present form; clearly you don't. Perhaps in the absence of an alternative site you could merely switch off when it suits you. Bernie Keith - popular as he is no doubt he is not for me.

I want clarification on the major talking points, was it a red? Was it offside? I want an interview with the manager and I want it all done and dusted by 1715. They can do what they like after that, I'm home.

I think my comments so far on this thread would suggest that i think the show is reasonable, but could be better. I listen evry week because an 'okay' show is better than no show at all, for me anyway.

It doesnt make me angry, I am not emailing Caroline's boss and requesting she imporove or be sacked, but i am offering my honest opinion on the topic, which includes constructive criticism.

For what it is worth i think Caroline is improving as she settles in. My biggest complaint was, and still is the interview with the manager. Time with the manager is limited and so should focus on football, specifically the match that just occurred, and his role and thoughts on it, it requires a certain level of preparation and tactical understanding and observation from the interviewer. Thats what i think is still missing, regardless of the interviewer, but slightly more so in Carolines case.

On a separate point - Terry Angus and Lee Harper are shocking .
I never agree with a single thing Terry Angus says and Harps takes so long to make a point , I have lost interest by the time he finishes his sentence .
Willsher is even worst .
On the plus side , I like Robertson , Gabbiadini , Smith ,Brady and Atkins when he was on .
Bayo would be good if he retires !

The BBC doesn't allow advertising so Bayo won't get on...

I expect Atkins covers Birmingham games nowadays but agree I remember him being very good as and when he was a pundit.
Terry Angus I don't like so much Lee Harper I do.

but then u come on hear and moan about radio npton go on you tube if u want managers view of the game

how do you do that when you're driving home from the game?

do it when you get home

I reckon Andy Holt is the best pundit we've got. I can't wait for JJoT to get his chance at the job with his Ginsberg stream of consciousness.

I quite like Angus for his enthusiasm, and Harper surprisingly,for a keeper, has a good tactical knowledge of the game. He certainly raised some very good points last season, post match, with Wilder, (or gaffer, as he called him), which left Joe Townsend in the shade.
Bayo as a pundit? Im not convinced. I have spoken to him a couple of times in the club shop, and he just doesnt seem articulate enough.
And Willsher must just be a last resort, when no one else is available.

Factually, very interesting. I must have been on holiday when that particular survey took place. :P

are you simple Or a child? I'm not even going to bother trying to explain to you why a local radio station that has just broadcast the local football clubs match has a responsibility to provide some after game coverage and interviews with key people from the game

Or in the pub!!!

;D

The Manager interview is normally anytime between 5.15 amd 5.45pm. For the players they squeeze in after Managers interview. Suspect you are taking the proverbial by wishing all done and dusted by 5.15pm. ...gotta be; its your way! On the other hand have a word with NTFC and set them your deadline. They'll listen to you?

They might do, I drive a bmw.

That'll do the trick   ::)

I found Oglethorpe very annoying today. He kept asking Chris Freestone questions during commentary but then continuously interrupted him before he could finish. Also, said Nyatanga made the goal-line clearance when it was Buchanan. How can you make that error, they are not vaguely similar.

Caroline Densley, however, was very good.

Oh...he also called Fleetwood Chesterfield for some strange reason during a part of the game.

He can be a bit motor-mouthed at times, but actually I quite like that. Thought Chris Freestone got better as the game went on.

It is a recurring feature of TO's commentaries that in his haste he gets players' names mixed up from time to time. That may be one of the reasons why he has not found a permanent home in the BBC. That said he has been providing us with an excellent service for many years and I am grateful.  And I also though Caroline Densley had a good day at the office yesterday.

Tonight Dense-ly managed to mispronounce Oglethorpe's name somehow.

Radio Northampton spending 5 minutes talking about Claudio Ranieri at half time rather than the match...

Criticising for the sake of criticising.

Tonight's coverage was very good, just frustrating because of the performance of the team. Not the fault of the commentators.

They'd covered everything there was to say at HT about our match. We had been awful and the match had been uneventful. Ranieri was the biggest footballing story of the week and it was interesting to hear their take on it.

A couple of post-match Dense-ly clangers:

"I'm a half glass full kind of person"

"Why couldn't the Cobblers score?" [They did.]

And a cock up re saying that John Sheridan was Plymouth Argyle's manager last season. He wasn't! And she supports Argyle! She is absolute garbage, offers nothing and hasn't got a clue.

Absolute nonsense. Oglethorpe was fine as usual but Denseley was poor and Robertson's opinions uninteresting.

I think it would have been possible for them to talk for another five minutes about the game at half-time- not a lot was said about our bench or potential reserve players who can come through. There was five minutes there when they could have had some constructive and informative Cobblers half-time discussion and instead they chose to ask Gregor Robertson what he thinks about Ranieri. His take on it, unsurprisingly, was not "interesting".

Someone shut that woman up FFS

Matt Taylor "Immediately did that hand shake thing to the referee" For fox sake what does that mean?

Another maths  classic from cazza when she was seemingly unable to work out how many points we need to get from 40 to 51.

Heard her in on the radio on the way home and I'm pretty sure she had an orgasm at one point going by the noise she made.

I switched off after just six minutes pre-match when she asked Eardley (I think) "have you ever played in conditions as bad as this? Actually yes, I am sure you have" so why ask such gratuitous patronising twaddle, you dimwit?

When we lose , especially at home in an important game , I want misery , analysis and gloom .
I don't want laughter , banter and the sort of chatter women folk enjoy .

Just come straight on here and read your own back catalog then.

When next applying for a job and wondering whether or not I might be under-qualified...
I shall think of Caroline and realize that no, no I am not.

We've lost a couple of matches and suddenly Caroline's coverage has got worse again.
Nothing like a bout of blatant sexism to ease a defeat or two. Reign it in guys ffs.

👌  ;D

Post match coverage was pathetic.

At one point she made some sort of screechy noise about how Oldham were "just so annoying". She's simply woeful.

Oh god that was awful wasn't it. Cringe for her most of the time she is on air.

It didn't take long for the "blatant sexism" card to be pulled out again - for the umpteenth time this has nothing to do with her gender

If it was a guy saying what she says they would still get stick. Nothing to do with gender, people are so quick to say 'oh it's sexist'

Just because it's a female and we are all males does not make this sexist. Instead look at the woeful job she is doing. As mentioned above, nothing to do with gender!

I thought that was a good response too. We seem to have a collection of miserable misyongists.

I'm sorry I don't agree with that comment.

Don't agree with what - that I've been sexist at any point in any of my posts in my criticism of Caroline densley - if that's the case I challenge you to post evidence to back this up. Granted one or two posters may have strayed close to/over the line but the majority have provide reasonable and numerous examples of her ineptitude.

I believe i explained this before in a response to someone else...


every time i criticise someone based on their performance, i am not discriminating against everything they are and everything they stand for in all walks of life and all topics. Why is that so hard to understand?

A lot of people have put forward reasonable views and evidence based on Caroline's performnce alone. They are not automatically sexist because she is female.

Sorry but my criticism is nothing to do with her gender.
I criticised Joe Townsend when he first rocked up, and thankfully he improved very quickly. It helped that he appeared to have a degree of understanding of his target audience!

My comments would have been exactly the same if we had won tonight. The "dirty blonde" is garbage.

I think you are missing the point. Some of the criticism of Caroline is acceptable and should not be construed automatically as sexist comments; that's plain daft. The point is that there are or has been just a few comments that are at the very least abusive; or may even be considered sexist(heaven forbid). I don't see the need for you to defend yours or anybody's else critical comments; the point being that perhaps we should comment on those who constantly rail against the presenter in an abusive manner. I am surprised that you ignore the more unsavory comments and just merely pursue it on a purely personal basis.

Where are they, I haven't seen them please post them Evers old chap.

The messages of a "flaming" nature in regard to Radio Npton presenter maybe 405, 408, 415 and perhaps 424. You can read and am pretty sure you of all people can work it out for yourself.

that is exactly what you did the other week  ::)

I apologized for the "laddish" comment - it was in poor taste.

It wasn't a 'laddish' comment, you just didn't understand what the word 'sexist' meant and then wrongly accused somebody of it

oh that one - I apologised to the lady and she forgave me.

You make absolutely no sense sometimes Evers... if you 'don't see the need for you (me) to defend yours or anybody's else critical comments' then why do you attack them and label them sexist when they are not? As Marquis has already pointed out, you did the exact thing you are now calling daft.

I will give you the benefit doubt in this case though, because as you say, you have apologised since, so i think you have simply listended to others and learnt the lesson, which is fair enough.

I have already pointed out that i think some of the criticism is justified and some of it not. I have already stated that contacting Carolines manager to vent frustrations is not something i agree with. But i dont know content or tone of the complaint to fully judge the person that did this.

What i really dont like though, is people throwing around accusations and labelling people or comments racist/homophobic/sexist etc. when there s no evidence to support it. Its an easy way out and benefits no-one. If someone disagrees with you, give them the counter points, dont just label them sexist and refuse to engage - there is no benefit to that tactic.

All i will say is that people are too willing to de-humanise others in the age of social media. At the end of the day, this is Caroline's livelihood at stake, she is still settling in etc etc. Constructive observations and criticism could help her to improve, whilst simply crying out 'She is terrible' without explaining why you think that, is not helpful at all.

Nice alliteration Evers.... how about bad bird bashers?

Political correctness sometimes gets in the way of reality .
If someone is not fit for purpose , whatever the Job in question , then they need to reconsider their role or be trained better.
Worrying about livelihoods etc is not really of any concern . No one would worry about my livelihood if I didn't do my job properly . I would be sacked .
As for women in football, there are some very good presenters such as Kelly Capes and Hazel Irvine for example . Talk sport also have some excellent female presenters .
Generally speaking though I think you need to know what it's like in a make changing room within that sport to have a real insight . It's a bit like a man commentating on giving child birth - it's not quite right .
I couldn't care less how many people criticise this comment and quite look forward to the PC reaction .
Bring it on

Are you sure about the alliteration charge? Seems a bit fanciful to me. Yours is much better!

post edit maybe this is better "..........a collection of miserable morose misyongists"

Pretty much agree with that. It's just some people wander in to sexist remarks without realising it. Just need to be careful on here thats all.
A Forum on the internet is not idle chitter chatter down the pub.

Just listened to the latest Thursday night football programme and must say how much better it was than when i last heard it a few weeks ago.Much criticised Caroline has got a good voice for Radio.She sounded good, interviewed Paul Devlin well and i thought she did not put a foot wrong during the programme.I say this as one who has cringed at some of her presentation since she joined the station.Maybe this is where she would do best presenting one of Radio Northampton's main stream programmes and not interviewing Managers straight after the game.

Maybe they have scripted everything for her because left to her own devices she's terrible.

Wow what a well constructed comment - sheer genius ::)

It's not entirely unreasonable to assume that she's better in a studio environment than a more spontaneous match day scenario.

Chris Evans being a very high profile example of someone who is naturally at home in a live radio/TV environment, but really struggled when faced with scripted, recorded TV in his role on Top Gear.

You should get someone to script your posts on here then.

I too have heard parts of the studio based football shows and her sports bulletins on the morning news and to be fair they sound pretty good, well read and pleasant listening. I like Andrew Radd's news bulletins, a great voice and local fella. With Caroline, I agree that this seems to be her best role so maybe she should leave the manager interviews and post-match comments and analysis to the likes of Tim Oglethorpe? Ever time I hear her post-match I cringe and I'm sure Tim does too.

So what was Teaser's Tims JJOT classic at the end of the programme? Did anybody else miss it?

I doubt anyone heard it. We were told to listen to the end of the interview with JJOT to hear his comment about Ricky Holmes. However  the interview was 'gazumped' by some interview with a premiership manager by presumably 5 live, that held no interest for anyone in Northampton. That was after the programme had been filled with two Saints interviews (they played last night), one with the Leicester manager, one with that Zlatan bloke and one with Mears of Bournemouth. There was also an interview with Eion Morgan which I suppose was a bit more relevant than the others.  They really are hopeless.

Thought Brady made a decent, knowledgeable match summariser today.

"Ricky? Did he play today?" Great stuff from John-Joe when asked about whether the former team mates shared any 'banter'.

Totally agree. He made some valid, and incisive points, post match. I would be happy for him to make a return visit.

Agreed. He makes a very good pundit. Was also interested to hear him run through his CV pre-game ( Currently working with the Under 16's) and tell of his friendship with Rico through doing their management badges. Daly as manager with Rico as assistant in the future might work for us.

I thought Caroline was great today and so was Tim. Mr Brady was good summarizer even tho' his flat tone sent me to sleep.

Would that be Gerry Daly???!!!

Sorry. Brady not Daly.

She was poor and appears to have Beeb demoted.  On Thursday night, she did barely 5 minutes of the interviews which included this classic "so how do you stay fit then?". Erm, training, Caroline?  Then yesterday I only switched on late into the programme when she was running through the other local scores. I had no idea if Corby lost 3-0 or won 3-0: "as for Corby Town, well, it was 3-0 against Gainsborough". 

And for the anti-sexism brigade, I switched on to Carston Witch4rse on Friday evening.  Within 30 seconds he said "Northamptonshire Crounty Cicket Club".  He is a bumbling idiot.  I switched off rapidly.

She was having big problems in pronouncing the word "Skelmersdale", Kev. It was continually coming out as "Skemersdale"!!! That and Oglethorpe continually calling our midfielder "Boatang" week in and week out. I have to admit generally that TO does a great job commentating on The Cobblers. I'd like to suggest that for the last game of the season against Gillingham that Dimsley is let loose to do some match commentating. It could be radio gold!!!

Classic from Carson Wishart just  now John John O'Toole said it before and after the recorded interview form Saturday.Beat that Caroline.

Have you got a link?

In Caroline's defence most Lancastrians actually pronounce it as Skemersdale, without pronouncing the 'L'. It is often shortened to just Skem. She must have done her homework on this one after being corrected by Chris Freestone last week on the pronounciation of Basford (Baseford).

OldStratford, the said interview was 37 minutes into the programme if you listen back

Thanks PC!

I just caught the end of a Carson Wishart exchange tonight where he had mis-pronounced John-Joe O'Toole again. Somebody had texted in to let him know and I don't think he was impressed as he offered that person in for a chat! I only heard it briefly in a noisy environment but he sounded a little cheesed off rather than full of humour! He also referred to JJOT as the Northampton Town defender...

Yes i heard John Joe our defender read out.
I know the presenters are reading what is on the screen in front of them but surely someone in the sports department at the station could get these mistakes corrected.
I trust Carson does not make similar mistakes when he commentates on his Worcester Warrior games for another station.

What happened to local presenters on local stations? OK I can excuse Bernie Keith because even in the constraints of the BBC he is very good.
Maybe Steve Riches will comment? Always enjoyed Steve on the radio.

Well then here's my comment for what it's worth - we've reached the stage in local media when we can count ourselves lucky there is much left. Herald and Post has gone, C&E are hanging on in there - indeed probably surviving financially partly because of the many logins from Cobblers' supporters who have to try to avoid that awfully intrusive advertising that slows your smartphone as it loads it all!
  As far as anyone knows BBC Radio Northampton's coverage is pretty-much guaranteed in the medium term - they know full well that covering the Cobblers brings them better listening figures.
  I'm at the stage of thinking that anything left is better than nothing, and although many on this forum can and do pick holes in Radio N'pton's coverage I reckon they do an ok job. Caroline wotsit gets some criticism which I suspect is more to do with her being a woman in what some feel is really a man's domain - she's mostly ok but she does umm and ahh too much but she'll learn if people stop going at her, Tim Oglethorpe is balanced - I know he has his detractors on here but he's a good all-round broadcaster - the guest ex-players are usually good value, they don't have to be polished, just interesting, and Gareth Willsher takes a bashing from some on here but you have to remember that in his job he isn't the same as an external journalist, he represents the club and I doubt he gets paid anything extra for his on-air contribution and as a club employee he is a great source of internal information. In my journalistic days I found him nothing but helpful at almost any hour of the day or night if I needed information  - but clearly it's not his job to do probing journalistic work exposing anything wrong at the club! To his eternal credit (and he wasn't alone in this) he took exactly the correct anti-Cardoza line at the right time when he could have kept quiet. James Whiting and others ditto.
So, in brief, we still have some independent coverage and should cherish it.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Steve.

Have a look around the lower league football clubs. How many of them are the foremost team in their BBC catchment area? Not many I would wager. How many of them regularly command full commentary on every single match they play?

Yes Radio are not perfect by any means. But I'm not going to knock something that keeps me informed and gives me commentary on matches I'm unable to attend.

 Port vale   share there   commentary with  Stoke  and Crewe .

Good post by Steve Riches, makes a lot of sense, and although I can see the shortcomings of RN I am very grateful that we have the level of coverage of our team that they give us and the Eggchasers. When I had to work Saturdays and evenings RN was a godsend for me to listen to and still be involved in following our fortunes, this also went for my Dad when he got to old and unable to attend matches before passing away, I assume this might apply to many Cobblers supporters over the years.
 I have been following this thread since it started, some of you guys really need to take a breathe and a step back with the regard to the moaning about RN. The mighty Beeb are always looking for ways to make cutbacks, local radio is an easy target for them and if I was some penny pinching exec sitting on some sub-committee looking at saving a few bob this forum would not read well if they glanced it during their surveys.
 As Steve says, be grateful for what we have, and enjoy the games you cant get to. COYC's three points tonight please and a big cheer to be heard all across the County when Tim shouts "Goal to the Cobblers!"

Carson Wishart just announced it is going to be a special evening at Sixways tonight.

I doubt he's been anywhere near Sixfields!

Gripping discussion points tonight about jetwashing driveways and eating pickles

The "quiz" was a particular highlight for me

Careful - we're not allowed to be critical  ;)

From Port Vale's forum:

Absolutely correct as well, Hooper scored after he'd "gone off"

In fairness, from my seat near the back of the west stand the white numbers on the back of their yellow shirts were almost illegible so I think Tim can be forgiven for mixing them up.

Steve - generally agree with your post which are based on common sense, good observation and a knowledge of the subject - most of the above being the case - however I do take light hearted exception to the lazy assumption that criticism of Caroline is more to do with her being a woman etc etc. I can only speak for myself where I have personally supported women in football (and know what a tough gig it is) but most of the observations on Caroline are that she needs to improve significantly for her own credibility because at the moment she seems to lack basic self awareness of her factual gaffes together with the inappropriate comments and questions. 

Carson Wishart read out another text tonight where the sender called him a buffoon after another one of his usual errors where he tried to play a recording, picked the wrong way, muffled about too many buttons so played some music instead. I think it's all quite entertaining on my drive home from work!
I'm warming to Caroline now though. She even mentioned tactics and questioned the formation last night.

Not wanting to boost his ego but I always thought Steve Riches was a very good broadcaster.
In general however I think that radio is in a shocking state.
My lift to work listens to Heart with Stuart and Katie "only for the traffic"
I have to tell you it's beyond cr@p boring, repetitive and treats listeners as if tHey are stupid. Where did we get to this formulaic brand of drivel where songs are constantly cut short for "exciting" competetions?
So Caroline, Carson and of course Bernie Keith who are a little bit different, I applaud you, you have my ears.
Dare to be different.
Anybody who wants to know how radio should be done just tune in to Radio Five Live 9 to 11 Saturday morning.

To be fair I used to enjoy listening to Steve Riches. Stuart Linnell is an excellent broadcaster on the early morning breakfast show. Despite his Coventry allegiances he is knowledgeable on the Cobblers and Northampton in general. As far as the football coverage is concerned, We are lucky to receive the amount of coverage we get,  for a lower league club. Most are fighting for air time with bigger clubs in higher leagues, so full match commentary is great to have. Just need to improve on some of the pre/post match analysis.

Broadcasting legend  :)

Is that an obscure euphemism for "massive bellend"?

So what's your preference? Red, brown, or none at all?

The term legend can be attached for a variety of reasons, not always positive...

No! I would have typed "BackOfTheNet".

I know I'm a flake and a weasel but for me it's no sauce at all.  :-\

Don't know why, but I was sure you were going to say brown.

I'm guessing it's red for you, what with you coming from the South (of the county).

I like a bit of both!

Ooh err!!!

Clarke Carlisle summerising today.

I thought he was quite good, too!

All where good on Saturday including CC.

Clarke Carlisle was at his eloquent best on Saturday, a joy to listen to. And he spotted the deft flick from Taylor's cross that led to JJOT being offside right at the end whilst Tim was berating the linesman. An astute pundit.

yep. Probably the best summariser they've had on there. He did the last world cup for itv didn't he? Getting him on was somewhat of a coup, good work from Caroline getting him on, hope he does it again.

Where was Caroline today?

Missing her already?

She's on holiday, back at Rochdale next Saturday.

I'd rather listen to Caroline than terry Angus anyday. She might get her facts wrong at times but at least she's not incredibly patronising. I usually turn it over on the way home now if it's him summarising.

Which game was Terry Angus watching, not the one I attended.

He does tend to state the bleeding obvious. It also irritates me the way he emphasises Every   Word   He  Says
I quite like what Ian Bamjamin has to say but he badly needs a voice coach.

Amazing - I like Terry A and Caroline ; heaven sent commentary team. Terry is nearly always right with his game summary.

Apart from yesterday when he was wittering on about the team being nearly good enough to push for the play offs next year...

I think he is right - if JE can keep the nucleus of the defense plus JJOT and Taylor plus a few additions we wont be far off. From what I have seen so far this season we have every chance to do well next season. I certainly prefer our defense when compared with Oxford's. TA also queried the Smith/Rico partnership in that only Rico looked capable of scoring. Also Smith invariably ended up on the right wing which confused him as a tactical ploy.

I'd love to hear some of you miserable fcukers give it a go....  ;D.

I nominate Shoemaker or even Grove to give it a go!

You could argue that any team that finishes mid table is nearly good enough to push for play offs the next year. Whether they get there or not is a different matter.

Although I'm clearly not a miserable fcuker I would love to give punditry a go. Clearly it is the easiest ticket in modern football. (especially as legends such as TA get to do it).
Often wondered what kind of fee the Radio Northampton pundits command?

I'm sure that they don't charge too much...  8)

Another Caroline classic ....
" is that the Yorkshire dales over there ?"
No love , you are in the middle of Lancashire .
What annoys me is that she does no preparation for who she is meeting or where she is going whatsoever

I'd like to do Donovan Blake of Anglia Television's job. He must broadcast for a maximum of 10 minutes per week. Easy money!

That is quite simply untrue. She was trying to be witty ; which it wasn't really. And yes she did prepare as she got a reasonable few things right about Martin Smith.
Anybody would have thought you "have it in for her" ::)

Whereas you have a thing for her

People misunderstand Caroline's job. She represents the casual fan, those that get their clubs and grounds mixed up and then ask the obvious questions. The Cobblers nerds will be really annoyed by her.

You've been on Yellows Forum!  ;D

Why would I - past such things

Don't worry about it Everbrite. Marquis likes to pick fault with people and suggest things that aren't true. He accused me of being a teachers pet yesterday - he obviously doesn't know me very well.

Somewhere between bu**er-all and not a lot.

do you remember the time you tried suggesting work was carrying on as normal in the East stand even though i told you it wasn't? If we're talking about suggesting things that aren't true, of course  :-*
Ps, you sound like a right rebel rebel

For someone who is supposed to be the Administrator you do a good job of encouraging people on the site by continuously putting them down.

You've certainly put someone off contributing any further. I've enjoyed it except your constant put downs!

See you later.

I don't think you will!

"
Is that his nick name then - "dénigrer"

Wo you hit a raw nerve there Marquis, teachers pet indeed  ;D

Errr it's not untrue . She wasn't trying to be witty at all , she said it in all seriousness.
Also I don't think she did any research on Martin Smith at all . I'm not sure she had even looked him up on Wikipedia !
I haven't got it in for her but poor preparation really annoys me , especially when you know little about the subject in the first place .

I bet Kingsthorpe cobbler is a right laugh down the pub "right, that's it I've had enough of you, I'm going home"

I don't think he's old enough  :o

Hello Marquis, hope you're ok today.

Hello Manwork04, hope you're ok today.

Donovan Blake, another poor sports reporter. Mistakes and struggle to get words and phrases out correctly, bless him.

He's been a YTS trainee for over 10 years!!!!

Did anyone catch the post match coverage today - to be fair they had to do a lot of filling due to the pitch invasion but their consensus was that we are 99.9% safe (which now makes me worried!) and that we have the nucleus of a good side for next season. What they didn't mention was that the spine of our side is out of contract and there are no guarantees that any of them will re-sign - with Adam smith coming back into the form of last season I can see plenty of clubs coming in for him.

I think Angus broke some kind of record for talking on air today,he was filling for what felt like hours.

Do you know what? If any Terry Angus's of this world were asked to talk after the game they would say "Do you know what? if the Terry Angus's of the world had any affinity with the club" and they would say "Do you know what? "I've got an affinity with the club" and if any Terry Angus's of this world thought different, they would say "Do you know what? I haven't got an affinity with the club"

Why did not one person ask about the sub decisions that changed the game ?

Do you know what? Terry Angus had plenty to say about the substitutions in the game especially with advice for McWilliams.

I couldn't care less about what Terry Angus thinks , but it would have been nice to know why the manager made the decisions he did .

Do you know what? Terry Angus would say to himself "I have an affinity for the club and I can learn from this".

I thought the Football show at 6.30 this evening was quite good. Who is this fountain of knowledge, John Atkinson ?  ;D

Was it broadcast from The Cordwainer?  ;D

I think todays summariser, at Bury, is very good. He sounds like he knows what he's on about.    ;)

Talks too much though  :) Tim has needed to interrupt him a few times.

Doing a good job, very knowledgeable.

It's amazing how Tim and Caroline have completely changed their view in the space of 2 weeks - now they concede that we are not one or two players away from a playoff chasing team and we now need major surgery

A month ago most on here would say the same?

I was asked by Radio Northampton to be a summariser for the Bury game at the weekend after someone had to pull out at the last minute.

I can only speak from my experience but it's a hell of a lot harder than any of you can think.

You really have to read the flow of the game, which I struggled with a little. As someone pointed out earlier on this thread, Tim had to interrupt me quite a few times while I was talking and there was seemingly nothing happening, and then suddenly we'd be caught out by a long ball over the top and he'd have to take over again.

As many people have already pointed out on this thread, we are very lucky that we have both a local newspaper and radio station covering us. Especially given the current circumstances of local reporting, where it's been hit severely by cuts.

 ;D

Its's the JED hour right now on RN.
To be honest quite a low key start to the season.
One thing that does wind me up about him is the "yeah no"  he answers all questions with. Oh and he had owls and jays as "pets" as a kid.

Once again , Caroline Dearsley embarrasses herself in the post match interview .
Of all the questions she could have asked , she states that one of the positives was that Cornell had a great game . ...... what ?? He didn't do anything ...
Then she states that we are now playing long ball and didn't do that last season ..,,, what ???
We continually lumped it last year and if anything have tried to pass it more in the past two games .
Absolutely inept and JED clearly thinks so as well .

To give JED credit he remains very professional despite the obvious frustration you can see on his face. I'd love to see how Chrissy Wilder would react to her!

If I was the manager of a team that had lost in that fashion and someone asked me such ridiculous questions , I would quite happily put them in their place in no uncertain terms .
She's simply incompetent

I miss the verbal kickings Wilder used to dish out to Joe Townsend. Proper football radio

Apparently Densely is "half glass full" kind of person! WTF!

Apparantly Coddington is experienced....

Has she said that again?!? Once is a slip of the tongue, twice is blatant fùckwittery.

That co commentator today sounded like a right bellend.




Only joking Fez, well done mate, you were decent.

Very well done, James! Can you be employed by Radio Northampton every week please?

James is basically teaching Caroline how to fill - genuinely it's the highlight of the whole day!

Massive improvement over the normal analysis we get on the show.

Also did like the aside that Dyche is a big fan of some proper shoes.  

It's fascinating to hear Caroline flirting with the saints players.

Sounds like all is not well in the camp - a very cryptic comment about Matt Taylor's omission from the squad - sounds to me like he refused to travel as a sub. Like him or not Matt taylor is obviously a popular member of the squad and this kind of thing can spread.

JED rambling on about expectations - I think it's fair to say that any expectations that supporters may have had have now been lowered considerably.

The only expectation I have is for him to fúck off.

I turned off before that, but it was a "need to check your expectations" at Gillingham which got the fans to turn on him.

I think he's on his way. That's why Matt Grimes has been signed.

Would that be Matt Grimes as player manager then? Isn't he a bit young at 22???!!!

I mean Matt Taylor, dopey.

That's what it sounded like to me as well. Interesting to hear JE refer to club squad budgets and justify a top half finish as being a success.

The way it's gone so far, I'd be over the moon with top half!

It's a tactic used to take pressure off by trying to lower expectations. Most managers use it. Doesn't really make any difference because we haven't won a game yet, so are not really meeting many expectations at all, are we.

I felt going into the season that JED was in a very fortunate position that managers will not often, if ever find themselves in. He was given a boost in budget that was, by his own admission, very competitive for the league yet expectations didn't really rise in line with that. It seems that most on here and most fans have spoken to would have been happy wth top half with maybe a tilt at the play offs.

If he is to go at any point this season it will be because relegation is a real threat, if at any point he cites raised fan expectations as a factor it will be bulls*** of the highest order

I know!!!

+1     :)

They said on Radio Northampton that Edinburgh signed Matt Ingram I Doubt It !!

I dont see why that's such a crazy notion, who knows how long it was lined up for. Sounds like QPR have a fairly young keeper stepping up to be no2 so perhaps they agreed to the deal a while ago in the condition he stayed until deadline day

They say a lot of things on radio Northampton most of them are uninformed and wrong. I knew the minute that JED was sacked the media would be all over it accusing the club of treating him unreasonably and saying it was far too early to get rid of him and they haven't let us down.

Where's this been said? Radio Northampton?

Most of the reports I've read have just made reference to losing every league game and being out of the cup, some have even mentioned the run going back to last season. It's actually seemed quite a well balanced reaction so far, but that's just what I've seen

It was said on their Thursday night football show which felt like a Justin love in show to me.

Awful hour of radio tonight

Urgh, thanks, glad I didn't waste my time listening to that...

I was referring to the abysmal drive time show where some bloke called Carson who hasn't mastered the English language waffled his way through an interview with lee Harper who predictably spent the whole time backing his mate and next door neighbour JED and bemoaning the decision to sack him after only 4 games. It didn't help that they also read out some texts from supporters saying that he should have been given more time. I really couldn't bring myself to listen to Caroline's fun hour at 6pm.

Don't worry, Fez is on tomorrow morning, just after 8.00  :)

From some of Sammos comments on Tuesday , I think he thought JED had given up the ghost.
Sammo talks sense , as does Brady .
Tim loves the club , so he's ok .
The rest , including Harper are clueless

I'm sure Harper said previously that Page was at one time his next door neighbor too...

Therefore, first question for any potential NTFC manager must be...have you ever lived next door to Lee Harper?  ;D

The Lee Harper interview was a complete waste of time. He admitted he hasn't see us play this season and trotted out the its too early to be sacking him line. They could have at least interviewed someone who has seen us play.

I thought"Caroline's fun hour"  this evening was pretty good. Obviously they had to rush to get people in and the Rushden manager was pretty decent along with Jeremy Casey (very good on twitter). Both spoke well from two different points of view.

Excellent piece by Casey in the chron too, on why to the outside world it may seem harsh to sack him after 4 games, but the reality is it was totally justified

I very much doubt if the next manager will be quite as accommodating towards the incompetent Caroline as JED was .
I hope it's not Roy Keane for her sake...

I thought the programme last evening was a good standard, especially when you consider the short time scale to put it together.
Jeremy Casey gave an excellent overview (plus an excellent article on C & E website).

Some people need to focus on the quantity of coverage NTFC gets from Radio Northampton instead of a weakness.
Look at the small coverage teams like Oldham, Walsall Wimbledon etc get.
I for one enjoys the Radio Northampton coverage NTFC gets, especially when you consider the shrinking budget they have to work with.

I hope it's not Roy Keane for all our sakes!

Quite true ....as for the numpties criticising a woman football interviewer in the manner they do is poor behaviour. Of course it is not sexism some squeal.

Forget the sexism angle, she just makes for uncomfortable listening/viewing

Do you understand what sexism means? I only ask because the last time you accused someone of it they turned out to be a woman and made you look quite silly...

She's soooooo bad at her job it makes my teeth itch.

Ok online bullying then

The criticism of Caroline Densley is nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with her competence. She speaks complete nonsense especially after a defeat.

Some of the criticism had been pretty vitriolic; would you like a relative to be subject to this type of criticism?
Quite why some posters get so worked up by CD is beyond me. Like most on here I listen to her and merely laugh. If it gets too annoying I can switch off.

So if your wife made some comments on sport like LBW in cricket or offside in football; would you launch the sort of vitriolic abuse similar to that aimed at CD? Suggest you go back and look at some of your posts of which one at least was at best unsuitable.

What the actual f*** are you on about now? Throwing abuse at a woman simply for being a woman isn't sexism. It's misogyny. For the record, treating a woman in a lesser way than you would treat a man or denying her the opportunities a man would get is sexism. Also, inferring that my wife wouldn't understand the LBW or offside rules (presumably on the basis of her gender) is actually a little bit of both.

Criticising someone for being s*** at their job isn't sexism or misogyny; it's equality. Saying "ah, bless her, she's doing her best" as you keep doing is demeaning, patronising and possibly a couple of the other abstract concepts that you don't seem able to fully grasp.

Nice to see you have learnt precisely nothing from the last 20 odd pages of this thread Evers, as always, keep up the good work  ::)

Correct.

Not sure why we sacked JED, though? Don't like it, simply stop supporting the Cobblers. Easy really.

I repeat last night's show was good. Input from Dave savage, Gregor Robertson too. It seems CD is slowly building up a list of good contacts to act as summarizers.

She needs to mate  ;D
I think Sammo is outstanding at summarising still loves us and has a passion for all things NTFC.

Agree sammo is excellent, would have made  a decent manag... oh hang on.

Your standards are different, that's all. How's your pal Mr Précis coming along?

ZZZZ

As has been said so many times before , Caroline Densely is absolutely useless ....
Lee Harper is also useless .
If that's sexism , then it's sexism against men and women ! It's not sexism , it's a comment on capability .
My dog is useless at doing what it's told as well - is that sexism against animals ?
Sack off this politically correct world and say it as it is .

Would like to see him back as assistant one day. Definitely still a fan.

Remember the good old days with Adam Blackmore and Tim? Used to have some really in depth debate/chat and was well worth a listen. Bless old Caroline for having a go but it's chalk and cheese. The station has lost its way on the sports front, bit like the Chronic really.

I don't think it's particularly vitriolic, but frankly if you work in the media on TV/Radio then instant praise/criticism comes with the territory.

Totally agree, B&S. She is fcuking useless and offers very little to Radio Northampton sport. Have you noticed that all the previous job holders used to commentate  - Joe Townsend, Geoff Doyle, Jon Wilkinson, Adam Blackmore, Jeff Welch etc. Could you imagine the car crash radio if she was allowed to? Mind you it would make very entertaining comedy radio. As somebody said in the past let her loose with a microphone at village fetes, dog shows and WI jam making competitions. Now that is her true level.

Sorry, no WI jam making competitions either. Some poor sod of a bloke would have to open the pissing lids for her.

Should be interesting to listen to CD's first interview with the new manager?

"So Jimmy, I believe you scored 9 goals in 23 appearances for Never Never Land".

Factually correct tho'. Hopes she asks him how many for Chelsea.

doesnt need to. we live in an age wher books exist so she could rsearch it herself

Hopefully, they'll get ANYONE but Densley to interview him...else it could get very embarrassing!

Can just imagine her cringeworthy line of negative questioning...

Do you think it was unfair to sack the previous manager?
Why have you not joined a bigger club than NTFC?
Do you think NTFC can ever win a game followed straight away by asking will NTFC win the league?

She ain't got a scooby!  ::)

So some on hear repeatedly say they do not think Ms Densley does a good job BUT with over 600 messages when does this become harresment, move on?

I can't see a problem with those questions.
And they appear to be questions that you have come up with. To say she hasn't a clue if she asks questions that you have thought she might ask is the daftist thing I have read on this thread.
Easily embarrassed aren't you?

I quite like her.  Refreshingly quirky I'd say.

So then, what questions would you like her to ask?

So Jimmy what's your favourite colour, have you ever been to Plymouth?
She's fcuking useless, talk about nicking a living  ;D

Well she is a "half glass full" kind of person, whatever that means.

plus 1

?

Hurrah 😁

"Claret and no but we'll aim to enjoy our day down there and come back with three points."

I think Caroline Densley did a very good first interview with JFH, So credit where credit is due.

She gets a lot of stick (on here) but mostly I think she does a good job and is improving with the questions she asks at interviews. I can imagine it isn't quite as easy as people might think. Yes, prepare correctly but a spanner can always be thrown in the works and you have to react with a follow-up question very quickly.

I only heard a snippet and after JFH said he can bring energy to the side she asked what can he being to the side and he had to repeat that he can bring energy to the side  ??? I think it is the reactions and follow up to what is said that makes it all go a bit painful. I like the person* and find the delivery of the pre-prepared sports bulletins are good, it is the off the cuff stuff that is a iffy.
*person as opposed to woman as I didn't want to appear sexist, even though she is a woman as any criticism of a woman and the sexist card gets thrown about!

TBH I have heard the so called professional presenters do similar, so it's not exclusive to her.

JFH did have to point out to her that "having a chat" with a young striker wouldn't be enough to develop them into a top goal scorer.  ::)

It's painful to listen to

Picking on minor points. If you listen to most interviews before or after this weekends games, up and down the country, you will find instances similar to what you've pointed out. Townsend was pulled up numerous times by Wilder - it comes with the territory.

His mind is made up!

Given that they even discussed it after the game, not asking Jimmy about the Long substitution is quite frankly criminal!

Plus they never ask the manager any questions about the injury status of players who are out.

It's being reported that Long was substituted because of a hamstring injury. This seems a bit odd because he jogged off and down the tunnel. Also, the body language from both Long and JFH suggested otherwise.

I joked with a mate during the game that we'd lose 1-0 and Caroline would forget to ask JF about Long! How could she not, it's one of the first things I would of asked, perhaps that's why I'm no journo...

I have it on good authority that she was asked not to mention Long - so she didnt. Other than that she did ok; perhaps Stoney can give us all a fair minded and in depth comment 8) on her interviewing today.

If it was a hamstring then why was she told not to mention it - I'm not keen on censorship in any form to be honest? I think you'd agree that it would have been nice to have asked for injury updates especially on o'toole who is our talisman?

We're not really getting anything out of these post match interviews with JFH. There's so much more that could/should have been asked today - the Long substitution, Foley & Hanley not making the bench, O'Toole injury update, struggling up top so why no chance for Lobjot or  Iacafano or putting Waters up there.

They were discussing post match, on finding a 20 goal a season striker, and how hard they are to find. Tim O suggested looking into the conference, or maybe non league. For gods sake, we have just signed a 60 goal a season non league striker, and he doesnt even get a chance!
You can only assume, that he must look crap in training.

The most interesting thing in yesterday's post match interview was hearing JFH sat that we have 3 strikers at the club. I think that pretty much shows what he thinks of some of the attacking options we have.

Too right, generally inane fair that goes through the motions. If you listen to the Poole interview midweek he starts every answer with "Yeah of course". Not a criticism of the lad just an indication that he is being asked the bleeding obvious. Still, Steve Riches used to say some contentious stuff, the club got the arse and the Chronic shat itself. Suppose they all still **** their pants at the mere thought of upsetting someone?

When asked how good it was to have Hoskins back, he said he could play wide or as a striker. Does he include him as one of the three?

If anyone knows who is a striker its JFH, Hoskins is a slightly better version of Billy Waters neither of them are good enough to be strikers at this level.
The three strikers we have are Revell Rico and Long.

Would agree that Hoskins isn't good enough, I've not seen enough of Waters personally but you're probably right.
I wondered if Jimmy's three strikers exclude Long because he doesn't regard him as his player, in which case Hoskins becomes striker three.

Personally I think we have just ONE league 1 standard strikers and that is Long. January can not come quick enough!!

I think Richards is League One quality- he bagged ten goals for us in League One last season, more than anyone else. Waters, Iaciofano and Lobjoit haven't been given a chance.

Revell should go in January, Bowditch likewise.

Richards WAS a League 1 striker, now a  20 minute substitute/squad striker.

The other strikers have every chance to impress in training but obviously haven't!