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Title: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2017, 17:06:03 pm
After today's loss its time for one of these..

16.   Northampton   34   11   7   16   40   
17.   Shrewsbury   34   10   8   16   38   
18.   Bury                   34   10   7   17   37   
19.   Gillingham FC   33   8   12   13   36   
20.   Oldham           34   8   12   14   36   
21.    Port Vale           32   8   10   14   34   
22.   Swindon           34   8   9   17   33   
23.   Chesterfield   34   7   7   20   28   
24.   Coventry           33   5   10   18   25


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 25, 2017, 17:09:08 pm
I'd say that Chesterfield & Con are definitely down, the other teams are very much in the mix...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on February 25, 2017, 17:11:40 pm
We'll have to watch out for JJ scoring for fun at Vale.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 25, 2017, 17:12:14 pm
This should brig a few out of the woodwork on here.  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on February 25, 2017, 17:14:50 pm
But surely, now we've changed manager we don't need to worry.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 25, 2017, 17:15:13 pm
This should brig a few out of the woodwork on here.  ;D

They'll have you for company.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 25, 2017, 17:16:14 pm
They'll have you for company.

Nope, I am now off to watch the rugger!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 25, 2017, 23:40:44 pm
Come on you miserable scalfs, vent your spleens! I haven't got this extra large bag of popcorn at hand to hang of the mantelpiece as an ornament.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 26, 2017, 14:04:16 pm
Hopefully it will be a short-lived thread.....!!

Here are the games involving the relegation "chasers" this week....

Tues...

Bury  v  Coventry City

Northampton  v  Oldham
Rochdale  v  Port Vale
Shrewsbury  v  Charlton
Swindon  v  Gillingham
Walsall  v  Chesterfield


Sat..

Bury  v  Gillingham
Northampton  v  Charlton
Shrewsbury  v  Coventry
Southend  v  Port Vale
Swindon  v  Chesterfield
Walsall  v Oldham

With three six-pointers on each day the table could have a clearer look about it by next weekend.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Starmer87 on February 26, 2017, 14:39:27 pm
I don't think we'll go down I've seen worse teams than us this year but football is an unpredictable game that's why we all love it


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 26, 2017, 14:46:53 pm
but football is an unpredictable game that's why we all love it

What if you are a Celtic fan?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2017, 01:17:09 am
Hopefully it will be a short-lived thread.....!!

Here are the games involving the relegation "chasers" this week....

Tues...

Bury  v  Coventry City

Northampton  v  Oldham
Rochdale  v  Port Vale
Shrewsbury  v  Charlton
Swindon  v  Gillingham
Walsall  v  Chesterfield


Sat..

Bury  v  Gillingham
Northampton  v  Charlton
Shrewsbury  v  Coventry
Southend  v  Port Vale
Swindon  v  Chesterfield
Walsall  v Oldham

With three six-pointers on each day the table could have a clearer look about it by next weekend.....
Thanks Grange, yes 2 wins for us and it will a lot less worrying.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on February 27, 2017, 09:51:42 am
We need 10 points from 12 games to be sure of being safe. That equates to a points per game rate of 0.833. Only the bottom two teams have failed to meet the rate over the season. So I would think that we will be OK.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 27, 2017, 11:07:10 am
Our run-in for those who want to speculate where we might pick up those points:

Feb
Oldham (h)

March
Charlton (h)
Wimbledon (a)
Port Vale (h)
Bolton (a)
Oxford (h)

April
Rochdale (a)
Sheff Utd (h)
Millwall (a)
Shrewsbury (h)
Bury (a)
Gillingham (h)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on February 27, 2017, 11:19:02 am
Fortunately some home games coming up because I can't see us taking many points on our travels.

The fact that 4 teams drop from the division makes our current position very vulnerable. The memory of our 2009 relegation still haunts me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 27, 2017, 11:27:33 am
The memory of our 2009 relegation still haunts me.

Ditto. The next 3 home games look really important given the challenges beyond.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monkey on February 27, 2017, 12:33:10 pm
Will 50 points be enough this year? I'll feel safer when we reach 52.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 27, 2017, 12:37:35 pm
Feb
Oldham (h)

March
Charlton (h)
Wimbledon (a)
Port Vale (h)

April
Shrewsbury (h)
Bury (a)
Gillingham (h)

I think these are realistic opportunities for a win, would be great for a mini-run of points again now to avoid relying on results in April.

Does all depend on the teams around us of course, hopefully they will all continue being awful as well.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on February 27, 2017, 12:37:49 pm
Could easily see one of the last relegated teams getting to 50 pts, both of them, probably not. 52 pts has to be the target.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on February 27, 2017, 12:46:28 pm
I think these are realistic opportunities for a win, would be great for a mini-run of points again now to avoid relying on results in April.

Does all depend on the teams around us of course, hopefully they will all continue being awful as well.

I agree, but if you believe others, there are no easier games 😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on February 27, 2017, 16:51:47 pm
Right, just for info here is the safety points required since the new format took effect.

2004–05 51
2005–06 51
2006–07 48
2007–08 49
2008–09 50
2009–10 51
2010–11 48
2011–12 50
2012–13 49
2013–14 50
2014–15 51
2015–16 47

I can't see Swindon, Chesterfield or Coventry being an issue.
That makes Oldham, Portvale must wins, because I would hate for both teams to be scrapping for survival when we entertain Gillingham.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 27, 2017, 17:56:02 pm
Looks like the task is 4 wins and a couple of draws from the last 12 games then...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 28, 2017, 18:44:06 pm
Rochdale v Port Vale is off tonight, so Vale will have three games in hand on us....and a bit of fixture congestion to deal with!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on February 28, 2017, 18:52:40 pm
Chesterfield also off.

Another plus, we play Oxford after they've gone best part of a month playing Saturday Tuesday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: tcobb on February 28, 2017, 21:57:13 pm
Lose  Saturday and it's not looking too good.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 28, 2017, 23:10:50 pm
Updated 28th Feb

14.    Milton Keynes   34   11   10   13   44:43   43   
15.   Charlton           34   9   15   10   43:39   42   
16.   Shrewsbury   35   11   8   16   39:50   41   
17.   Northampton   35   11   7   17   51:59   40   
18.   Bury                   35   11   7   17   53:62   40   
19.   Gillingham FC   35   9   12   14   45:56   39   
20.     Oldham           35   9   12   14   23:34   39   
21. Swindon           35   9   9   17   35:49   36   
22.     Port Vale           32   8   10   14   34:51   34   
23.   Chesterfield   34   7   7   20   31:56   28   
24.   Coventry           34   5   10   19   30:54   25


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 01, 2017, 00:19:05 am
Saturday just got bigger!!

Bury and Gillingham, the two teams directly below us meet each other, whilst Swindon have a home game against Chesterfield.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 01, 2017, 08:28:55 am
Unfortunately this feels like the 08/09 season all over again.

Incidentally that season and this season are also only two seasons in recent times when an NTFC player has scored a Sixfields hat-trick...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 01, 2017, 13:15:14 pm
Unfortunately this feels like the 08/09 season all over again.

Incidentally that season and this season are also only two seasons in recent times when an NTFC player has scored a Sixfields hat-trick...



Neil Grayson in the snow?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on March 01, 2017, 13:54:25 pm
Just had a scan over the teams below us in the table and Bury's run in is very difficult (on paper)

Although we don't look great, I think we are going to stay up but it will be close. Those last three games are going to be huge and we'll have to take points in all, but if you were looking at run in difficulty, we should be ok. Obviously this doesn't factor in teams form and anything can happen in any single game, but just an observation.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Westander on March 02, 2017, 17:13:18 pm
I'd been away for over a month before the Oldham game so a lot of the players were new to me, in honesty Smith, Boateng, Wylde the new right back and to a lesser degree Anderson all looked like average league 2 players none did a thing to inspire me and I worry that the future is looking grim, I am an optimistic person usually but it looks a tough time.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 02, 2017, 18:13:53 pm
Neil Grayson in the snow?

Billy Clarke. He scored a hat-trick then didn't score again, hopefully Keshi will score more than his hat-trick starting this Saturday.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 02, 2017, 18:22:01 pm
Unfortunately this feels like the 08/09 season all over again.

Incidentally that season and this season are also only two seasons in recent times when an NTFC player has scored a Sixfields hat-trick...

I agree it is very similar. Should have got points from games we lost that season aswell, points add up come the end of the season. Since JE came in we should have 2 extra points from Walsall & Oldham, let alone from when Page was here. I think we would be safe now if narrow defeats had been turned into draws instead.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 02, 2017, 18:28:12 pm
Neil Grayson in the snow?

Wrong decade mate. 'Larry' was 1994-1997. Excellent wholehearted player.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wrigleys on March 02, 2017, 18:35:46 pm
To be honest there are still a few away grounds I haven't been to in League 2. Forest Green and Dover would be nice away days. And as I pointed out to you youngsters some months ago, we're gonna be in League 1,2 or the National for the rest of your lives so get used to it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 02, 2017, 18:42:50 pm
To be honest there are still a few away grounds I haven't been to in League 2. Forest Green and Dover would be nice away days. And as I pointed out to you youngsters some months ago, we're gonna be in League 1,2 or the National for the rest of your lives so get used to it.

Be quiet!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 02, 2017, 20:32:55 pm
To be honest there are still a few away grounds I haven't been to in League 2. Forest Green and Dover would be nice away days. And as I pointed out to you youngsters some months ago, we're gonna be in League 1,2 or the National for the rest of your lives so get used to it.

History is on our side we have been in Div 2(old) for 3 years and L1(old) for 1 year. Of course this happened a long time ago but still within living memory; a few astute signings will see us climb the leagues again ;). One other thing can you tell me this Sat winning lottery numbers as you seem very confident in predicting the future.
Thanks.

No comments please Marquis :D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 03, 2017, 10:46:04 am
History is on our side we have been in Div 2(old) for 3 years and L1(old) for 1 year. Of course this happened a long time ago but still within living memory; a few astute signings will see us climb the leagues again ;). One other thing can you tell me this Sat winning lottery numbers as you seem very confident in predicting the future.
Thanks.

No comments please Marquis :D
If we can find another 40 goal a year man, plus a manger like Bowen, you might be right.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wrigleys on March 03, 2017, 11:45:21 am
History is on our side we have been in Div 2(old) for 3 years and L1(old) for 1 year. Of course this happened a long time ago but still within living memory; a few astute signings will see us climb the leagues again ;). One other thing can you tell me this Sat winning lottery numbers as you seem very confident in predicting the future.
Thanks.

No comments please Marquis :D

The key to the future is in the past; i.e. sh1t usually stays looking very similar to sh1t unless you roll it in glitter


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2017, 11:51:51 am
If we can find another 40 goal a year man, plus a manger like Bowen, you might be right.

The circumstances surrounding Bowen helped a lot - we were able to offer very good signing on fees which helped in attracting players like Holton, Reid and Ashworth.
But the real secret of the 63/64 and 65 sides was the defence which simply in the 2nd & 3rd Divs did not concede goals as we do now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 04, 2017, 18:34:16 pm
A much healthier looking table:

14.   MK Dons             35   11   10   14   45:45   43   
15.   Northampton   36   12   7   17   53:60   43   
16.   Charlton      35   9   15   11   44:41   42   
17.   Gillingham FC   36   10   12   14   47:57   42   
18.   Shrewsbury   36   11   9   16   39:50   42   
19.   Bury              36   11   7   18   54:64   40   
20.   Oldham      36   9   12   15   23:36   39   
21.   Swindon      36   9   9   18   35:50   36   
22.   Port Vale      33   8   11   14   35:52   35   
23.   Chesterfield        35   8   7   20   32:56   31   
24.   Coventry      35   5   11   19   30:54   26


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on March 05, 2017, 10:14:27 am
I'll be a lot happier if Charlton and the Dongs lose their game in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 05, 2017, 10:53:23 am
I'll be a lot happier if Charlton and the Dongs lose their game in hand.

Two teams will lose their games in hand on Tuesday night:
Charlton v Scunny
Walsall v Chesterfield

After Tuesday the only teams in the mix with games in hand will be Milton Keynes, Port Vale & Coventry (I don't count Wimbledon upwards as 'in the mix').

Milton Keynes' game in hand is on 28th March, when they travel to Port Vale.

Coventry's game in hand is also v Port Vale.

Vale have 3 games in hand on us as below:
Coventry (a) (21/03)
Milton Keynes (h) (28/03)
Rochdale (a) - no date for this one yet.

So in short - Port Vales' form over those 3 games in hand will go a long way to deciding what happens around us in the table!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 05, 2017, 14:17:39 pm
Makes the game Vs Port Vale a week on Tuesday huge, win that and it will take a complete collapse for us to go down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 05, 2017, 17:35:06 pm
But we're still really only 4 points above the relegation zone if you accept that PV may get 4 points from their games in hand. In other words, there is no room for results like last Tuesday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 05, 2017, 18:50:44 pm
Port Vale will be fine, after all, some of their fans will be looking at their fixtures and saying that they have "a lot of easier games to come"............. ;)

With Swindon, us, Shrewsbury, Coventry and Chesterfield coming up they need to pick up some points.....I don't envy them their last 4 games!!

H v Sheffield United
A v Oxford United
H v Bolton Wanderers
A v Fleetwood Town


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 05, 2017, 18:54:09 pm
Ooof they'll be lucky to get a point from all of those. Didn't realise just how far Coventry are from safety either until just now


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on March 05, 2017, 19:15:20 pm
I think we can say goodbye to Coventry and Chesterfield, Vale will survive and Swindon and Oldham will join them.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 05, 2017, 19:52:27 pm
If we lose on Saturday and then beat Port Vale, we should by law of averages be 5-7 points clear of 4th bottom, with 8 games left. Even taking Vale out of the equation if that makes senseÖ

2 wins would then be needed from the last 8 games.

The way I see it, if we were to win the next 2 games (probably about a 1 in 6 chance) the season for us is as good as over.

If we were to lose the next 2 games or take a point on Saturday and lose to Port Vale, we are then right back in the sh1t!





Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 05, 2017, 22:04:12 pm
I would take 3 points from next 2 games, preferably against Vale. I think we'll get 4


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on March 06, 2017, 14:03:24 pm
So having looked at the fixtures I have come to the following conclusion:

Cov and Chesterfield are down - even if they aren't down, I can't see them catching us.

Therefore we need 2 other teams to also finish below us... step forward Port Vale and Swindon. Assuming we avoid defeat against Vale next week, I believe that a total as low as 48 points will be enough to stay up this season (I believe 47 was enough last year).

Swindon have a horrible run of games coming up, after they play Vale at the weekend they have Sheff U, Bradford, Millwall & Fleetwood to play - they will do well to pick up any points in those games - therefore I'd like to think we will have moved further than the current 7 points clear of them. At that point we will be down to 5 games left to play - I'm confident they will be left with far too many points to overturn in such few games.

Port Vale may have games in hand, but they are in a horrible run of form (even we drew at Southend!). Even if they do manage to heroically turn their season around and claw back the current 8 points between us... they finish the season against Sheff U, Oxford away, Bolton at home and Fleetwood away.

That's ignoring the other 5 teams between us and the drop zone who also need to out-perform us over the run-in.

(The key games feels like Vale next Tuesday - if we can beat them the job will be all but done with plenty of games still to play).


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on March 06, 2017, 14:14:59 pm
I keep trying to be positive, we're only 7 points behind P*sh!
Also would be good to finish top of the promoted sides and 8 behind Bristol, 6 behind Oxford, 4 behind Wimbledon

Hopefully we can have a good week or 2 and start to look up the table instead of down!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobbler150 on March 06, 2017, 17:04:53 pm
Next two games if we git six loints season woukd be done


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 07, 2017, 20:40:49 pm
Charlton 1 up against Scunny and Walsall/Chesterfield 0-0


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 07, 2017, 21:59:12 pm
Tonights Results:

Charlton 2 Scunny 1
Oxford 2 Sheff Utd 3
Walsall 1 Chesterfield 0

Charlton are probably safe and Chesterfield are screwed..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 08, 2017, 09:25:40 am
After Saturday I'd have said that Charlton were in trouble of being dragged in to the mire. Now they've just beaten the 3rd best team in the division. Funny old game!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 08, 2017, 09:46:45 am
After Saturday I'd have said that Charlton were in trouble of being dragged in to the mire. Now they've just beaten the 3rd best team in the division. Funny old game!
The thing is, Sc***horpe aren't the 3rd best team in the division, on current form they and Charlton were the two worst teams !  I saw both our matches against Scunny and if you took Josh Morris out of the team they would be mid table at the best.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: defender on March 08, 2017, 10:15:16 am

We can score ok, but our defending at times is diabolical, WE MUST SORT THIS SIDE OF OUR GAME OUT ASAP.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 08, 2017, 10:34:11 am
The thing is, Sc***horpe aren't the 3rd best team in the division on current form, they and Charlton were the two worst teams !  I saw both our matches against Scunny and if you took Josh Morris out of the team they would be mid table at the best.

And this is where Cobbler78's theory falls down totally as recent form is a lot better indication to "easier" games than overall league position.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 08, 2017, 12:53:10 pm
And this is where Cobbler78's theory falls down totally as recent form is a lot better indication to "easier" games than overall league position.

At least he has a theory. All you have is your inane repetitive babble.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 08, 2017, 16:53:25 pm
And this is where Cobbler78's theory falls down totally as recent form is a lot better indication to "easier" games than overall league position.

But is it really? If Sheffield Utd lose their next 4 and Coventry City win their next 4, who would you rather we faced next?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Starmer87 on March 08, 2017, 18:04:57 pm
The thing is, Sc***horpe aren't the 3rd best team in the division, on current form they and Charlton were the two worst teams !  I saw both our matches against Scunny and if you took Josh Morris out of the team they would be mid table at the best.
got to agree I thought scunny were very average in both our games and easily beatable unless they were just having off games


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 08, 2017, 18:10:05 pm
At least he has a theory. All you have is your inane repetitive babble.

Classic projection...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 08, 2017, 19:08:23 pm
At least he has a theory. All you have is your inane repetitive babble.

Unfortunately, some people's lives revolve around picking apart other people's thoughts and ideas. The are too busy focussing on the negatives they forget to think for themselves. Just flick through a few threads on this board, they stick out like a sore thumb.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: pattcobb on March 08, 2017, 19:13:08 pm
Unfortunately, some people's lives revolve around picking apart other people's thoughts and ideas. The are too busy focussing on the negatives they forget to think for themselves. Just flick through a few threads on this board, they stick out like a sore thumb.
Unfortunately some people's lives revolve around stats too. I used to be like that a right statto, however my take on the glorious game is now one of misty eyed enjoyment. And my take on possible relegation is that we may get days out in Nottingham, Lincoln and Blackpool!
However I do want us to stay up as that of course will be the minimum success for this season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 08, 2017, 22:27:33 pm
Unfortunately, some people's lives revolve around picking apart other people's thoughts and ideas. The are too busy focussing on the negatives they forget to think for themselves. Just flick through a few threads on this board, they stick out like a sore thumb.
Nevers and Cobb78 spring to mind


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 08, 2017, 23:01:24 pm
Nevers and Cobb78 spring to mind

Thanks Feel-good bit spiteful tho' - nothing else to do?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 08, 2017, 23:05:34 pm
At least he has a theory. All you have is your inane repetitive babble.

Touche  :-*


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 08, 2017, 23:08:12 pm
But is it really? If Sheffield Utd lose their next 4 and Coventry City win their next 4, who would you rather we faced next?

Recent form usually takes into account the last 6 games and yes if sheff u did lose 4 to 6 in a row and Coventry won 4 to 6 in a row I would rather play sheff u!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 08, 2017, 23:12:01 pm
But is it really? If Sheffield Utd lose their next 4 and Coventry City win their next 4, who would you rather we faced next?

So just for clarity as I know you struggle to take other peoples ways of thinking onboard. I would rather we be playing Sc***horpe than Bury (as an example).

http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=formguide


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 08, 2017, 23:15:56 pm
So just for clarity as I know you struggle to take other peoples ways of thinking onboard. I would rather we be playing Sc***horpe than Bury (as an example).

http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=formguide

Madness. Glad you're not choosing. I be Sc***horpe win more games than Bury between now and the end of the season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 08, 2017, 23:34:53 pm
Touche  :-*

I accept your kisses (on the cheeks though).  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Starmer87 on March 08, 2017, 23:51:20 pm
Were not going down and Sheffield united will be celebrating be champions at six fields wilder will be appeh and I'll be on the pitch celebrating with the utd fans thinking that it could've been us maybe    but we'll never know


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 09, 2017, 07:57:03 am
I accept your kisses (on the cheeks though).  ;)

Bit below the belt...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: rebelspawn on March 09, 2017, 10:04:49 am
But is it really? If Sheffield Utd lose their next 4 and Coventry City win their next 4, who would you rather we faced next?

What you have done there is taken the most extreme example possible.

Oldham were below us in the table but on a good run of form
Charlton were above us but in very poor form.

The results speak for themselves...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 09, 2017, 11:19:34 am
Bit below the belt...
Bum cheeks are a bit below the belt


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: defender on March 09, 2017, 12:49:13 pm

 One thing I am sure about, is that f we don't sort our defending out. we WILL go down, We score first and within mins the  score is 1 -1
         That is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 09, 2017, 13:52:56 pm
What you have done there is taken the most extreme example possible.

Oldham were below us in the table but on a good run of form
Charlton were above us but in very poor form.

The results speak for themselves...

Indeed they do speak for themselves, as I've always said, we are much less likely to pick up points against the top ten than against the rest of the league, this was the case under Page and even more so now under JED.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 09, 2017, 14:17:15 pm
Indeed they do speak for themselves, as I've always said, we are much less likely to pick up points against the top ten than against the rest of the league, this was the case under Page and even more so now under JED.

What a massive contradiction as Oldham are bottom half!!!  >:D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 09, 2017, 14:36:33 pm
Whatever - if we win the next 2 matches (fair chance) then we are nearly over the safety line. That is all that matters this season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 09, 2017, 14:58:17 pm
Whatever - if we win the next 2 matches (fair chance) then we are nearly over the safety line. That is all that matters this season.

Exactly - What matters is getting to 51/52/53 points as quickly as possible - who cares how we do it and who we ebat to get there!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 09, 2017, 18:28:02 pm
But is it really? If Sheffield Utd lose their next 4 and Coventry City win their next 4, who would you rather we faced next?
Neither of these.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 09, 2017, 18:45:59 pm
What a massive contradiction as Oldham are bottom half!!!  >:D

As a one off anything can happen, use a larger sample to get a better overall picture. I'm not sure if you're a little slow and genuinely need it explaining, or if you're just doing it for a wind up. I'll give you the benefit if the doubt that you do need it explaining.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 09, 2017, 18:54:30 pm
Neither of these.
Coventry that's easy


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 09, 2017, 19:07:55 pm
As a one off anything can happen, use a larger sample to get a better overall picture. I'm not sure if you're a little slow and genuinely need it explaining, or if you're just doing it for a wind up. I'll give you the benefit if the doubt that you do need it explaining.

Hope you two aren't watchmakers


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: defender on March 10, 2017, 20:48:52 pm

 I don't see a lot of marking going on, with our defending.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on March 13, 2017, 15:22:42 pm

So having looked at the fixtures I have come to the following conclusion:

Cov and Chesterfield are down - even if they aren't down, I can't see them catching us.

Therefore we need 2 other teams to also finish below us... step forward Port Vale and Swindon. Assuming we avoid defeat against Vale next week, I believe that a total as low as 48 points will be enough to stay up this season (I believe 47 was enough last year).


It's nice to see this thread has gone quiet since the weekend... but the job isn't quite done yet!!!

If we can win tomorrow that will take us to 49 points. Cov and Chesterfield won't be getting that many points. Given Swindon's next 4 fixtures I'm pretty sure they won't reach 49 either. Vale will do well to get 49 (especially if we beat them). Oldham also have a tough run-in and may struggle to reach 49.

So although it won't be mathematically done for a few more weeks, a win tomorrow night may well turn out to be enough to secure our place in League 1 for a second season. Given some of the turmoil this season (from losing our Management Team and best player last summer to RP's difficult spell through the winter), if we can practically secure survival with 8 games to go it can only be seen as a success in my opinion.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2017, 16:32:06 pm
If we beat Vale we should be OK.
The following 5 games are tough then we have "Easier" games against Shrews, Bury and finally Gilly.

If Vale do beat us then we'll need to beat either Bolton, Poxford , Rochdale, Sheff U or Millwall.

How Feely predicts a win tomorrow and nerves will be put to rest.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Starmer87 on March 13, 2017, 21:22:54 pm
If we beat Vale we should be OK.
The following 5 games are tough then we have "Easier" games against Shrews, Bury and finally Gilly.

If Vale do beat us then we'll need to beat either Bolton, Poxford , Rochdale, Sheff U or Millwall.

How Feely predicts a win tomorrow and nerves will be put to rest.

we will beat oxolona again without conceding again and you heard it hear first that the cobblers beat the best team on the planet.....again


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on March 15, 2017, 08:56:46 am
Yes, I'll be watching the plastic get relegated.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 15, 2017, 20:26:21 pm
Yes, I'll be watching the plastic get relegated.

Would love to see it happen!! Unfortunately they've got Coventry at home this weekend so thats almost a given three points! Interesting game coming up away at Port Vale though....and they still have to go to Swindon and face Gillingham at home, they also have a tough run in with Scunny, Southend, Sheff United and Walsall as thier last 4.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 17, 2017, 16:39:20 pm
Big match tonight - port vale at home to Shrewsbury, I assume we would want a draw?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on March 17, 2017, 16:56:20 pm
Big match tonight - port vale at home to Shrewsbury, I assume we would want a draw?

Or a Shrewsbury win.

Based on the remaining fixtures I am very confident that the bottom 3 won't reach 50 points. Vale won't reach 50 points either if they lose tonight.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 17, 2017, 16:57:16 pm
Big match tonight - port vale at home to Shrewsbury, I assume we would want a draw?

Hard to say I think.

An away win maintains the (psychologically) huge gap between the bottom four and the rest.

A home win properly drags Shrewsbury into it (potentially)

A draw is a kind of mixture of the two, but I'm honestly not sure if it's "preferable" to the other two outcomes.

From a selfish point of view I'd prefer Vale to stay up, I think it's a better away day than Shrewsbury and, being confident we will now survive, that's what I'm gonna be rooting for.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 17, 2017, 23:48:46 pm
2-1 win for Vale tonight shows how valuable our win on Tuesday was.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 18, 2017, 09:20:14 am
Assuming Vale win one of their games in hand we would only be 6 points clear of the drop. Eight games to go anything can still happen for that last relegation place (the bottom 3 look gone). The goodthing is we're competing with 8 other clubs to avoid that last place and we have a decent goal difference. I'm thinking 52 points will be needed, so one more win. In 8 games to get it we shouldn't be worried, but I won't relax until we have.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on March 18, 2017, 12:49:12 pm
Especially after 2008-09


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 18, 2017, 18:36:19 pm
Effectively 5 points clear if games in hand below us are won. So we still need that one more win. Let's get it quickly, against the best team in League Two next week.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 18, 2017, 18:42:16 pm
2 more wins and we will be fine.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on March 21, 2017, 09:15:34 am
Come on Cov... do us a favour and don't let Port Vale win this evening!!!

I'd prefer any potential pressure to be prevented before it even starts!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 21, 2017, 21:29:31 pm
Coventry beating Port Vale 2-0 👍🏻


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 21, 2017, 21:49:53 pm
Matty Taylor in studio covering the Oxford v Bolton game for Sky tonight.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 21, 2017, 22:46:14 pm
So a 4-2 defeat for Oxelona and a 2-1 win.....yes a win for Coventry.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 21, 2017, 23:43:00 pm
Matty Taylor in studio covering the Oxford v Bolton game for Sky tonight.


(http://e2.365dm.com/17/02/16-9/20/skysports-matty-taylor-bristol-city-shirt-transfer-signing_3882273.jpg?20170201105209)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on March 22, 2017, 10:15:32 am
I understand this may be pretty irrelevant now, but...

Excellent result for us last night.

Vale have only picked up 3 points on the road in their 7 away games in 2017.

Of their final 9 games they have 5 away from home and their 4 home games include very tough games against Sheff U and Bolton.

With that in mind I see 8 points being a good haul for them between now and the end of the season. As you will know we sit 8 points above them with a far superior goal difference.

Therefore the pressure is well and truly off us now - even a terrible end to the season with us picking up a couple of draws should be enough to ensure safety.

Now lets go and beat Oxford (as we usually do) and put it well and truly to bed!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: swindonclaret on March 22, 2017, 11:10:38 am
The adverts on one of the local radio stations down here trying to drum up ticket sales still say "be our twelfth man as we aim for the championship"  ???  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 22, 2017, 12:09:29 pm
The adverts on one of the local radio stations down here trying to drum up ticket sales still say "be our twelfth man as we aim for the championship"  ???  ;D

That's a good radio you've got, picking up Radio Sheffield in Swindon  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: meccanostand on March 22, 2017, 14:02:13 pm
Those 3 at the end are winnable.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 25, 2017, 18:02:08 pm
Others scores:
Wombles 0-2 Southend
Swindon 1-0 Millwall
Gilly 0-1 Pish
Oldham 1- Sheff U
Shrews 0-2 Bolton
Cov 1-0 Bristol R
Chesterfield 1-3 Rochdale

9 pts from the drop zone






Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on March 26, 2017, 07:33:17 am
Others scores:
Wombles 0-2 Southend
Swindon 1-0 Millwall
Gilly 0-1 Pish
Oldham 1- Sheff U
Shrews 0-2 Bolton
Cov 1-0 Bristol R
Chesterfield 1-3 Rochdale

9 pts from the drop zone





Make that 8 points unless you now support The Real Dons!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 26, 2017, 08:10:01 am
I suppose you could say that our goal difference is worth a point at the moment but that could change before the end of the season


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 26, 2017, 10:56:08 am
On Sky Bet we are 150/1 to be relegated.

For any negative fcukers, fill your boots!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 26, 2017, 21:30:49 pm
On Sky Bet we are 150/1 to be relegated.

For any negative fcukers, fill your boots!

200/1 now.........go get 'em!!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 26, 2017, 21:36:30 pm
200/1 now.........go get 'em!!


Somebody will stick a spare £100 on us !!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 26, 2017, 21:44:16 pm
I think we can say that Coventry (despite two wins in a week) and Chesterfield are both gone. Their goal difference counts against them both so they are 11 and 12 points respectively away from safety already.
Swindon, with a win over Millwall have given themselves a chance.

Heres whats coming up in the next 10 days or so......

28/03/17    Oxford United  v  Bury
01/04/17    Bolton Wanderers  v Chesterfield
                Fleetwood Town  v  Swindon Town
                MK Dons  v  Gillingham
                Posh  v  Charlton Athletic
                Port Vale v  Wimbledon
                Rochdale  v  Northampton
                Southend  v  Oldham
04/04/17    Charlton  v  MK Dons
                Rochdale  v  Port Vale
                Shrewsbury  v  Millwall
05/04/17    Sheffield United  v Coventry City

                


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 27, 2017, 11:15:24 am
Somebody will stick a spare £100 on us !!!
That's probably not the worst 'investment' in the world at 200/1. It could be argued that we might only take 3 points from the last 5 games and we could end up 4th from bottom with 53 points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 27, 2017, 11:28:26 am
That's probably not the worst 'investment' in the world at 200/1. It could be argued that we might only take 3 points from the last 5 games and we could end up 4th from bottom with 53 points.
Ooops, forgot Gills at home so 6 more games not 5. 3 more points is a tad pessimistic, but I don't think we've been playing that well to be honest. 200/1 come on! 50/1 is more realistic.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 27, 2017, 12:35:26 pm
Whilst we might not be playing thrill a minute football we are looking much more organised and are managing games better, I'd be surprised if we only managed 3 points from the last 6 matches.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: MCHammer on March 27, 2017, 13:26:28 pm
Just had a quick look at the last 20 or so league one final tables.  Nobody has gone down on 52 points, in fact 51 has on all but 3 occasions been enough and even then for two of them it came to goal difference.

In fact in a lot of cases sides would have stayed up with anything in the high forties, 48 or 49.

Based on that and the fixtures remaining for some of the sides in trouble I think we've done enough already though clearly another win or a couple of draws would certainly be enough.

Finally I agree with the previous post.  It hasnt been pretty but we are clearly competing in all fixtures now even against the better sides.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 28, 2017, 15:00:11 pm
Just had a quick look at the last 20 or so league one final tables.  Nobody has gone down on 52 points, in fact 51 has on all but 3 occasions been enough and even then for two of them it came to goal difference.

In fact in a lot of cases sides would have stayed up with anything in the high forties, 48 or 49.

Based on that and the fixtures remaining for some of the sides in trouble I think we've done enough already though clearly another win or a couple of draws would certainly be enough.

Finally I agree with the previous post.  It hasnt been pretty but we are clearly competing in all fixtures now even against the better sides.
Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 19:49:56 pm
Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

Pretty much this, like for like results haven't changed, JED was lucky to join before a run of much easier games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 28, 2017, 19:58:26 pm
Bury 1 down


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on March 28, 2017, 20:13:22 pm
I appreciate this is the relegation watch thread but I would prefer Oxelana to lose as we are much more likely to overhaul them as to be caught by Bury


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 28, 2017, 20:55:25 pm
Pretty much this, like for like results haven't changed, JED was lucky to join before a run of much easier games.

You still chirping???

 :-*


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 28, 2017, 21:05:50 pm
Bury 1 down
Now 4-0 down, how good does that make us, stopping Oxelona from scoring  :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 28, 2017, 21:09:29 pm
Three goals in 5 minutes for AFC Dons against Rochdale who have had Keane sent off, so he'll be out for Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 21:15:01 pm
You still chirping???

 :-*

Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 28, 2017, 21:20:59 pm
Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

JED...been here 13 games.....record is Won 6, Drawn 2, Lost 5, scored 21  conceded 20

PAGE..first 13 games this season record was Won 4, Drawn 6, Lost 3,  scored 20  conceded 16

PAGE..last 13 games of his tenure was Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 9, scored 14 conceded 26

(League games only)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 21:24:25 pm
Keane sent off for Rochdale, so suspended for when we play them at the weekend, 3 other players on bookings an playing with 10 men for 45 mins 4 days before our visit. Nice!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: MCHammer on March 28, 2017, 21:25:12 pm
Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

Some people are capable of differentiating between results and performances.  We are also capable of differentiating between how opponents and the threat they pose can differ with months in between.  We are also capable of seeing a marked improvement in our own side and our approach to matches.

Other than the initial couple of settling in matches we've been competitive i.e. A good match for our opponents in all subsequent games under JED whether that be top middle or bottom of the table irrespective of the final result.  If you think that was the case for the whole of the first half of the season I'm guessing you fell into a coma around November time.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 21:34:01 pm
Some people are capable of differentiating between results and performances.  We are also capable of differentiating between how opponents and the threat they pose can differ with months in between.  We are also capable of seeing a marked improvement in our own side and our approach to matches.

Other than the initial couple of settling in matches we've been competitive i.e. A good match for our opponents in all subsequent games under JED whether that be top middle or bottom of the table irrespective of the final result.  If you think that was the case for the whole of the first half of the season I'm guessing you fell into a coma around November time.

Very good post, a few others could do a lot worse than look to you for advice on how to explain this point of view.............even if like for like results have not improved 😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 28, 2017, 21:40:26 pm
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Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.
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Yeah love it when a theory works!!

Did you forget to till Bristol rovers the plan on Saturday as they played there easiest game of the season against Coventry? What about millwall at Swindon??? Even Rochdale tonight????

But I do love I when someone gets things right!!!

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 28, 2017, 21:51:12 pm
I appreciate this is the relegation watch thread but I would prefer Oxelana to lose as we are much more likely to overhaul them as to be caught by Bury
I would just prefer Oxelona to lose...full stop!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: MCHammer on March 28, 2017, 21:51:23 pm
Very good post, a few others could do a lot worse than look to you for advice on how to explain this point of view.............even if like for like results have not improved 😉

Think we've had this discussion before.  Don't really give much importance to like for like results and don't see why anyone should...other than in a rather vain attempt to prove a point  ;) There's a massive difference between playing home or away.  A lot of teams are completely different prospects with months in between fixtures.  Also suspensions and injuries make a big difference not to mention the Cobblers have a completely different manager and play a totally different style.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 21:54:28 pm
Yeah love it when a theory works!!

Did you forget to till Bristol rovers the plan on Saturday as they played there easiest game of the season against Coventry? What about millwall at Swindon??? Even Rochdale tonight????

But I do love I when someone gets things right!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

I support Northampton, so I'm looking at our results, there will always be the odd anomaly but the overall trend is very consistent.

Ps It's "their", Millwall and Rovers have capital letters.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 21:57:19 pm
Think we've had this discussion before.  Don't really give much importance to like for like results and don't see why anyone should...other than in a rather vain attempt to prove a point  ;) There's a massive difference between playing home or away.  A lot of teams are completely different prospects with months in between fixtures.  Also suspensions and injuries make a big difference not to mention the Cobblers have a completely different manager and play a totally different style.

Again, hard to argue with the points you make, but still, our points per game haven't improved based on the skewed strength of teams we have played.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 28, 2017, 22:08:02 pm
Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.
Like you did for the Oldham game when we lost at home?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 28, 2017, 22:12:32 pm
Like you did for the Oldham game when we lost at home?

Jesus, you won't win or lose every match, but there is a definite overall trend. Surely you can see that?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 28, 2017, 22:16:58 pm
Surely you can see that?
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b8/b83eef2b053d5379d8dc1681fc9584d9d202b970883d2dfd259deac15f56d225.jpg)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 29, 2017, 14:57:08 pm
Again, hard to argue with the points you make, but still, our points per game haven't improved based on the skewed strength of teams we have played.
Exactly. Under Page there were many performances and results that I'm sure would not have been bettered by the current stewardship. E.g Walsall (H), Southend (H), Swindon (A), Sc***horpe (A), Oxford (A), Sheff Utd (A), Shrewsbury (A) and a few others. We had a few poor performances, like Posh, Bristol Rovers, Milwall etc but then again we've had a few poor ones under JDE like Oldham and Fleetwood and who have we beaten since Page left that we wouldn't have expected to? Results have, by and large, consistently ALL season depended on the quality of the opposition.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 15:35:34 pm
Exactly. Under Page there were many performances and results that I'm sure would not have been bettered by the current stewardship. E.g Walsall (H), Southend (H), Swindon (A), Sc***horpe (A), Oxford (A), Sheff Utd (A), Shrewsbury (A) and a few others. We had a few poor performances, like Posh, Bristol Rovers, Milwall etc but then again we've had a few poor ones under JDE like Oldham and Fleetwood and who have we beaten since Page left that we wouldn't have expected to? Results have, by and large, consistently ALL season depended on the quality of the opposition.

This in a nutshell is what people have been failing to understand all season, despite the facts being right under their nose.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 29, 2017, 15:46:24 pm
Exactly. Under Page there were many performances and results that I'm sure would not have been bettered by the current stewardship. E.g Walsall (H), Southend (H), Swindon (A), Sc***horpe (A), Oxford (A), Sheff Utd (A), Shrewsbury (A) and a few others. We had a few poor performances, like Posh, Bristol Rovers, Milwall etc but then again we've had a few poor ones under JDE like Oldham and Fleetwood and who have we beaten since Page left that we wouldn't have expected to? Results have, by and large, consistently ALL season depended on the quality of the opposition.

We didn't play well v Southend (h) and Sheff Utd (a). Oxford (a) was fine but they were toothless up front and we nicked a win with a late set piece, rather than beating them with a great performance.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 29, 2017, 16:19:17 pm
Exactly. Under Page there were many performances and results that I'm sure would not have been bettered by the current stewardship. E.g Walsall (H), Southend (H), Swindon (A), Oxford (A), Shrewsbury (A) and a few others.
I've been watching football a long time but I've yet to see how you can "better" a result that you won  ???

PS You forgot Stourbridge in your list of "a few poor ones" 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Another Pedj on March 29, 2017, 16:24:23 pm
I agree, anyone who was there could see we were a rudderless ship destined to sink.

And as for Bristol Rovers, I know they are a great side but we were good that day!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 18:04:55 pm
We didn't play well v Southend (h)

Erm, didn't we win? 4-0? Against a team in the promotion race? Imagine the score if we HAD played well!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 18:06:10 pm
I've been watching football a long time but I've yet to see how you can "better" a result that you won  ???


This is kind of the point being made!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 29, 2017, 19:38:17 pm
I wasnt enjoying watching the games when Page was there with a few exceptions, I'm enjoying it more under JE, I dont care how the stats come across or who we have beaten or if we were unlucky, if I enjoy it I'm more likely to keep going. I don't need stats quoted and re quoted and used in a million different ways to let me know if I enjoyed a game.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: andycobbler on March 29, 2017, 19:55:51 pm
The last few games under page were absolute dog sh1te and we were only heading one way. Jed stopped the rot and probably saved our league 1 status.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 29, 2017, 20:20:03 pm
Erm, didn't we win? 4-0? Against a team in the promotion race?
They weren't at the time. They finished the day bottom but one to Coventry.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 21:44:29 pm
They weren't at the time. They finished the day bottom but one to Coventry.

We were 5th, are we the 5th best team in the league?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 29, 2017, 22:09:48 pm
When we played Southend they were bottom but one. They were not a team in the promotion race. It wasn't much to brag about. If we beat them now in the same manner then it would be.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 22:19:37 pm
When we played Southend they were bottom but one. They were not a team in the promotion race. It wasn't much to brag about. If we beat them now in the same manner then it would be.

I actually think you might be serious haha


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 29, 2017, 22:34:51 pm
Personal opinion is that anyone who truly believes RP is a manager equal to JE then they're ridiculously stupid.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 29, 2017, 22:36:51 pm
Anyone that believes Page will be a manager again period needs their bumps felt.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 29, 2017, 22:38:02 pm
I actually think you might be serious haha
You're the one that seems to think being bottom but one is the same as being in the promotion race.
Have you never stopped to wonder why you're the only person on here that thinks the things you do?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 29, 2017, 22:54:51 pm

Have you never stopped to wonder why you're the only person on here that thinks the things you do?

I think we both know the answer to that don't we.............


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shoemaker on March 29, 2017, 23:28:30 pm
Anyone that believes Page will be a manager again period needs their bumps felt.
I'd say that's a damning indictment of the chairman that went all out to secure him :o


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 29, 2017, 23:40:34 pm
I'd say that's a damning indictment of the chairman that went all out to secure him :o

Anybody - as I am lost for words!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Moultoncobb on March 30, 2017, 07:45:37 am
I actually think you might be serious haha

The Southend team we beat 4-0 were a different team to the one now fighting for promotion, they've clearly improved a lot since we played them. Not that hard to understand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 08:19:45 am
The Southend team we beat 4-0 were a different team to the one now fighting for promotion, they've clearly improved a lot since we played them. Not that hard to understand.

Really, how many different players?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Knockingonabit on March 30, 2017, 10:05:31 am
I have been watching NTFC since before they had floodlights at the County Ground. Just my personal opinion but I would say Page was amongst the poorest Managers we have ever had.
I have been reading this board for a number of years although without posting much. Just my personal opinion but I would say Cobbler78 is right up there with the most irritating posters ever.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 11:18:08 am
I have been watching NTFC since before they had floodlights at the County Ground. Just my personal opinion but I would say Page was amongst the poorest Managers we have ever had.
I have been reading this board for a number of years although without posting much. Just my personal opinion but I would say Cobbler78 is right up there with the most irritating posters ever.

Because......?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 30, 2017, 11:35:52 am
I fail to see how anyone can defend Page at all .
We had a modicum of success early in the season , despite not playing that well when the opposition hadn't worked out our one dimensional tactics of hitting Revell at every opportunity .
They soon worked out how slow and powder puff we were in midfield and that the team couldn't last 70 minutes .
Anyone that supports Page fails to appreciate the dressing room was in turmoil and very few players supported him or his staff . They were unprofessional and unorganised in their approach .
There is no doubt we would have been relegated under that clown and maybe even bottom of the league . It was an embarrassment at the end .
That's before you start to talk about his signings / treatment of players / no connection with supporters / tactics / substitutions / fitness levels / bung he took from Barry Fry to put out an embarrassment of a team selection at Borough etc etc


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 30, 2017, 11:42:22 am
We beat Southend at home because their keeper basically threw two in for us and they had an unfortunate red card for the penalty at 2-0.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on March 30, 2017, 11:44:25 am
We were 5th, are we the 5th best team in the league?
I'm hoping that you appreciate the fact you have tied yourself in a knot here.

You're saying that because Southend are now high up the league it was a great result to beat them when second bottom but have insisted elsewhere that the teams at the bottom are 'easy' games and those above us are 'harder' games. By your own logic, the day we beat Southend was an 'easy' game!

With regards to someone saying that Sheff Utd away was a good performance. That was the game I decided enough was enough. I have no issue with parking the bus against teams like that at ground like that but you need an out which we didnt have towards the end. Poor selection, lack of fitness and a team not knowing their roles was clear


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Knockingonabit on March 30, 2017, 11:54:41 am
Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 12:34:11 pm
Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.

Unfortunately, it still needs explaning to some.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 30, 2017, 12:58:56 pm
I'd say that's a damning indictment of the chairman that went all out to secure him :o

Whilst not quite agreeing with that it was clearly a major error of judgement.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 30, 2017, 14:00:00 pm
Im visualising Cobbler78 sat in the sun, decked out in all of the latest fisherman clothing and surrounded by big nets 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 14:07:31 pm
Im visualising Cobbler78 sat in the sun, decked out in all of the latest fisherman clothing and surrounded by big nets 

Quite a few "whoppers" lurking.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 30, 2017, 16:06:09 pm
Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.
Good point Knocker..its like having an annoying wasp in the car. You open the window but it doesn't fly out.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 17:36:51 pm
We didn't play well v Southend (h) and Sheff Utd (a). Oxford (a) was fine but they were toothless up front and we nicked a win with a late set piece, rather than beating them with a great performance.
Bit like Swindon, Charlton,  AFC etc recently. Nice that a 4-0 against a play off team can be achieved without playing well. Would take that now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Moultoncobb on March 30, 2017, 17:38:21 pm
Quite a few "whoppers" lurking.

Say something stupid, be called out on it, immediately claim you were fishing. Good tactic.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 17:41:24 pm
Personal opinion is that anyone who truly believes RP is a manager equal to JE then they're ridiculously stupid.
OK, I'll take that. Let's see in 5 years whether JE is managing Man. U and Page has disappeared.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 17:51:16 pm
The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 19:00:50 pm
The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.

Thanks, glad a couple can see sense and refuse to be shouted down by the noisy negative type who only rise to the bait because they hate it to have been proved wrong.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: MCHammer on March 30, 2017, 23:00:53 pm
The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.

One last attempt then I'll leave you and Cobbler78 to it.  No one claims JED is the messiah.  Most if not all don't believe Page screwed it up deliberately.

But let's look past results, though I realise this is all you two are basing your opinions on.

Take a look back at the fixture list under Page.  I did earlier.  Honestly hand on heart think about how many games we played well in and actually matched our opponents.  I reckon there was about 5 and that's being generous.  The rest we were negative, dour and dull.  That was also against a mixture of teams top, middle and bottom for the record.  Remember we are talking about performances not just results.  Add to that all you have heard in interviews since about what trainng was like and what the players felt.

Then compare it to JED.  Pretty much every game post MK Dons we have been better than if not equal to our opponents.  Even the ones you listed earlier we could have been 3 up at half time against Fleetwood....who by the way were in an unbelievable run of form at the time.  Even Oldham though admittedly not great we lost to last minute winner.

This is what people have been trying to say to you guys over the last couple of months with no joy.  Think how ridiculous it is to say that results under a new manager prove the previous manager would have done equally as well.  Maybe Page would have turned it round....maybe he wouldn't have.  We will never know.  Therefore any points scoring or proving of points is just plain daft because nobody can ever or will ever prove they are right.

What people can say with certainty is that we were under a terrible run of form under Page both results and performance wise when he got sacked.  when you look back over his tenure as a whole you see a team that was generally so concerned with not losing it forgot about trying to win.  Things aren't perfect under JED but they are better and you'd be a fool not to see that.  Of course if your opinion is purely based on results only then.....here we go again.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 30, 2017, 23:59:49 pm
I think the above post says it all and should be the final post in the Page v Edinburgh argument . This for you Cobblers 78 and Saint Cobbler.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on March 31, 2017, 05:37:52 am
I cannot believe this forum at times.  There is so much negativity for a small football club who are competing in a very good league with lots of big football clubs.

We would have been relegated by now under Page.  We were mentally weak, very predictable and boring.  Long balls to a lone striker, 11 men in our box at an opposition corner.  Conceding last minute goals due to unfit players and crap training sessions. No thank you.

Going into the last third of the season you are playing against teams scrapping for survival or fighting for promotion.  No way were we set up to play against those teams.

JED is much better ln interviews and has raised the confidence levels of the squad.

Well done to Kelvin for making the right move at the right time.  Those who understand the game knew Page could not continue.

Page was boring and unfortunately this thread is going the same way



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on March 31, 2017, 06:10:50 am
One last attempt then I'll leave you and Cobbler78 to it.  No one claims JED is the messiah. 



JED is the messiah.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on March 31, 2017, 06:43:00 am
Unfortunately, it still needs explaning to some.

Not to me it doesn't ......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on March 31, 2017, 07:41:40 am
I totally agree that Page is one of the worst managers we have ever had.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on March 31, 2017, 09:43:57 am
JED is the messiah.

No he's not, he's a very naughty boy.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 31, 2017, 10:35:07 am
Over and out.  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 01, 2017, 13:05:24 pm
Good point Knocker..its like having an annoying wasp in the car. You open the window but it doesn't fly out.

 ;D Spot on ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on April 01, 2017, 19:12:56 pm
We can't be caught by either Coventry City or Chesterfield now! Getting ever nearer to safety and another season in League One.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 01, 2017, 20:17:39 pm
I fail to see how anyone can defend Page at all .
We had a modicum of success early in the season , despite not playing that well when the opposition hadn't worked out our one dimensional tactics of hitting Revell at every opportunity .
They soon worked out how slow and powder puff we were in midfield and that the team couldn't last 70 minutes .
Anyone that supports Page fails to appreciate the dressing room was in turmoil and very few players supported him or his staff . They were unprofessional and unorganised in their approach .
There is no doubt we would have been relegated under that clown and maybe even bottom of the league . It was an embarrassment at the end .
That's before you start to talk about his signings / treatment of players / no connection with supporters / tactics / substitutions / fitness levels / bung he took from Barry Fry to put out an embarrassment of a team selection at Borough etc etc

It makes you wonder how he managed to keep Port Vale in League One before he came to us. They even somehow managed to finish 12 in season 15/16


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 04, 2017, 20:37:50 pm
shrewsbury, Charlton and Vale all losing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 04, 2017, 20:55:04 pm
I think it's fair to say that port vale have had better halves - 3 down, a man sent off and 2 injuries!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 04, 2017, 21:03:58 pm
I totally agree that Page is one of the worst managers we have ever had.


I don't really think so - some of those Managers prior to DCardoza era , Fenwick and Wilkinson era were pretty naff. I can recall a player manager called Billy Baxter who was less than shocking as was Crerand and  Flowers. If anything Page was probably about a "dismal looking average" - his results up until October were acceptable. The November results onwards got worse by the game and BR was the last straw!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on April 04, 2017, 21:41:13 pm
Stourbridge was enough to get the most boring manger ever the sack.  Oh and playing one up front at home and being happy to watch the other team play football.  Oh and also for paying £100k for Harry


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 04, 2017, 21:46:04 pm
I wonder if tonight's match is the end of the line for Robinson at charlton - another terrible result and they're right in the relegation mix


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: pattcobb on April 04, 2017, 22:01:21 pm
After tonight's results all went for us. That's it for the season safety assured.
All agree?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 04, 2017, 22:02:32 pm
Stourbridge was enough to get the most boring manger ever the sack.  Oh and playing one up front at home and being happy to watch the other team play football.  Oh and also for paying £100k for Harry

Do you remember how many Wilder played up front in most games for us?

Also, we didn't pay £100k for Harry, it was around £25k with large add ons.......maybe one of the reasons he isn't playing as much as he would like at the moment.

Stick to the facts next time.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shoemaker on April 04, 2017, 22:03:23 pm
No
Il beleive it when and only when we ARE safe


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 04, 2017, 22:06:00 pm
Yep, even if we lose all 5 remaining games we will still be safe.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on April 04, 2017, 22:17:49 pm
Do you remember how many Wilder played up front in most games for us?

Also, we didn't pay £100k for Harry, it was around £25k with large add ons.......maybe one of the reasons he isn't playing as much as he would like at the moment.

Stick to the facts next time.


Statto statto.  You are wrong with £25k but will leave it there Page lover.  You cannot compare Wilder to Page.  Wilder has more footballing knowledge in his little toe than Page will ever have.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 04, 2017, 22:21:09 pm
Not safe yet but getting closer to it. There's so many teams below us though it would take some impressive results to do us, however I won't relax until its mathematical.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on April 04, 2017, 22:26:28 pm
Not safe yet but getting closer to it. There's so many teams below us though it would take some impressive results to do us, however I won't relax until its mathematical.

I am with you.  I won't rest until its mathematically secure.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 04, 2017, 22:26:39 pm

Statto statto.  You are wrong with £25k but will leave it there Page lover.  You cannot compare Wilder to Page.  Wilder has more footballing knowledge in his little toe than Page will ever have.


No, you are wrong with £100k.

We were talking about one up front.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: VintageClaret on April 04, 2017, 22:35:53 pm
No, you are wrong with £100k.

We were talking about one up front.

You are wrong.  Go and annoy someone else.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 04, 2017, 22:40:28 pm
You are wrong.  Go and annoy someone else.

Proof? No?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 04, 2017, 22:50:09 pm
One more win for us will seal the deal. Let's hope it's on Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 05, 2017, 08:10:42 am
Charlton are in real trouble here .
With their squad , that is an absolute disgrace .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 05, 2017, 08:53:49 am
Gillingham are also well & truly in the mire. It may well come down to the final game of the season for them and that is at Sixfields.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: sxcobbler on April 05, 2017, 09:03:43 am
Gillingham are also well & truly in the mire. It may well come down to the final game of the season for them and that is at Sixfields.


No, but yes, it would be ironic if J-Ed sends his old club down, sweet revenge?

That along with the possibility/probability of Wilder & Knill getting promotion at Sixfields.....now that double would have made a tasty double bet.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 05, 2017, 09:33:09 am
Charlton are in real trouble here .
With their squad , that is an absolute disgrace .

They are a one man team, who isn't doing as well for them as he did for us last season...  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 05, 2017, 11:00:13 am
Gillingham are also well & truly in the mire. It may well come down to the final game of the season for them and that is at Sixfields.

Charlton v Swindon on the last day could be an interesting afternoon too.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 05, 2017, 11:02:58 am
Be good if they went down and we could recapture the boy wonder to serve the final year of his stretch with us


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lift tower on April 05, 2017, 11:06:34 am
Be good if they went down and we could recapture the boy wonder to serve the final year of his stretch with us
He'd probably be injured for half of that but yeah


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 05, 2017, 11:46:13 am
Be good if they went down and we could recapture the boy wonder to serve the final year of his stretch with us

Bit of a grudge there then?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 05, 2017, 11:48:33 am
Bit of a grudge there then?
what? I've just hoped for his return, you backwards dick


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 05, 2017, 12:27:34 pm
what? I've just hoped for his return, you backwards dick

Are personal insults allowed on this forum now?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 12:46:28 pm
Are personal insults allowed on this forum now?

Yes.

He should be thankful he wasn't called a teachers pet, or grass for that matter. >:D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 05, 2017, 13:05:00 pm
Yes.

He should be thankful he wasn't called a teachers pet, or grass for that matter. >:D
i thought you were leaving?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 13:08:57 pm
i thought you were leaving?

No, I'd miss you too much Marquis.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 05, 2017, 13:22:41 pm
You've actually changed your signature. How horrendously tragic. Was that the first time anybody has ever noticed you and you want to keep hold of that moment forever?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 13:26:21 pm
You've actually changed your signature. How horrendously tragic. Was that the first time anybody has ever noticed you and you want to keep hold of that moment forever?

Absolutely, I love it. I need to thank you for my reincarnation.  :-*


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on April 05, 2017, 15:04:56 pm
Classic.. Teachers pet and bully


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on April 05, 2017, 16:25:46 pm
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sheffield-united-fans-slam-joke-12846654

Unbelievable, if true.

How many did we take to Gay Meadow that infamous sunny day back in 1993? ...... and I seem to recall that our demand outstripped supply.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 17:08:01 pm
Classic.. Teachers pet and bully

That's me, apparently.  ;D 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 05, 2017, 22:08:39 pm
what? I've just hoped for his return, you backwards dick

 ;D  - takes one to know one ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 05, 2017, 22:11:35 pm
Yes.

He should be thankful he wasn't called a teachers pet, or grass for that matter. >:D

Actually the Old Boy must be running out of suitable adjectives. Anybody notice how nice he is towards Coolcat?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 05, 2017, 22:17:34 pm
No, I'd miss you too much Marquis

Are you operating under another pseudonym?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 22:26:59 pm
Are you operating under another pseudonym?

Hello everbrite, Kingsthorpe Cobbler here I mean Teachers Pet.

I fancied a change & Marquis came up with the idea for me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 05, 2017, 22:42:37 pm
Actually the Old Boy must be running out of suitable adjectives. Anybody notice how nice he is towards Coolcat?

He likes cats.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 08, 2017, 18:19:41 pm
Down to 6 pts now..One more tough game then 3 easier ones.

Still need 1 more win IMO


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 08, 2017, 21:59:41 pm
Potentially just a 5 point cushion if Vale win their game in hand. Lose on Friday and there will be real pressure going into the Shrews game. We are not safe yet by any means.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 08, 2017, 22:09:17 pm
I can't see us getting anything at millwall - a point would be unexpected but welcome and then hope that Sheffield united's players aren't on their holidays at port vale. We need to put in a performance against Shrewsbury like we did today and that will hopefully be that.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on April 09, 2017, 06:54:59 am
Vale have three away games left and have won only one away all season, their 2 home games are Sheff U and Bolton. They have got to turn it around big style to catch us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Alfred on April 09, 2017, 07:29:24 am
You can get odds of over 150/1 on us getting relegated

For those still shatting their pants .... fill your boots

Then cover your bet with us to beat Shrewsbury


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 09, 2017, 08:45:49 am
I always look at the worst case scenarios (One of life's worriers I'm afraid)! Assuming we lose at Millwall, and other results go against us, pressure then builds and with matches against the 3 teams directly above the drop zone you are in Cup Final territory where anything can happen, their spirits are up for the fight etc. We should be good enough for 4-6 points from those 3 games if we play like we have been, including yesterday for the first 70 minutes, but there's always that nagging doubt that we have "one of those games" x 3 !!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on April 09, 2017, 09:47:59 am
Albeit posted with the usual caveats:

1) It's that time of the year when the form book can go out of the window;
2) "There are no easy games in League 1";
3) I have an emotional investment ...................

.... I'd say that on paper us and Charlton have the easier of the run-in's in terms of those currently occupying 15th to 21st.

Looking at the remaining fixtures Shrews, Gills, Vale, Bury and Oldham all have difficult games, with a few relegation 6-pointers thrown in (as do we).

Nostradamus.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Alfred on April 09, 2017, 13:11:14 pm
250/1 with Sky Bet .... fill your boots Wadey


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 09, 2017, 13:35:07 pm
We were 300/1 on Friday


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 13, 2017, 21:46:03 pm
Result tonight : Bury 0 Rochdale 1

Still 5 points behind us with only 3 to play.

Next up for Bury, away to Bolton next Tuesday night.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 13, 2017, 21:55:44 pm
Result tonight : Bury 0 Rochdale 1

Still 5 points behind us with only 3 to play.

Next up for Bury, away to Bolton next Tuesday night.

And they've got Southend away on the final day which won't be easy if they're still jockeying for play off positions.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 13, 2017, 22:40:57 pm
Given their fixtures to come, Bury's game with us will be massive for them!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 14, 2017, 17:00:33 pm
It's starting to look a bit clearer  - Swindon will now have to win all 3 of their games to finish above us and port vale have got a horrendous run in


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 14, 2017, 17:07:04 pm
Updated Table:

15.   Northampton 43   14   9   20   59:69   51   
     
16.   Charlton   42   11   17   14   51:51   50   
     
17.   Gillingham  43   12   13   18   57:73   49   
     
18.   Oldham   42   11   15   16   29:42   48   
     
19.   Shrewsbury43   12   11   20   44:60   47   
     
20.   Bury           43   12   10   21   58:72   46   
     
21.   Port Vale   42   11   12   19   44:66   45   
     
22.   Swindon   43   11   11   21   43:60   44   
     
23.   Chesterfield:43   9   10   24   39:70   37   
     
24.   Coventry   42   8   11   23   34:62   35
   


Score below us weren't to bad. Basically beat Shrewsbury and we're there. A loss to them and other team's win then its get tight.

Shrews H Win
Bury A Draw
Gills H Win


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 14, 2017, 17:16:53 pm
The Shrews game is massive. Win and we'll be safe. Lose and we'll be nervously looking over our shoulders again. I guess the likes of Moloney, O'Toole will be drafted back in for this one.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 14, 2017, 17:21:16 pm
And I would imagine Williams and Michael smith will be out - I would hope revs will slot back in and not keshi but from earlier in the season it was pretty clear that revs and Rico are too similar. Does this latest injury for Williams mean that it's not worth pursuing a permanent deal in the summer?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on April 14, 2017, 17:38:14 pm
Probably been posted elsewhere by now, but beat Shrewsbury and we are safe.

Beating them takes us to 54 - and as we are 4 points ahead of Shrews, that'd put us 7 clear of them with two to play, while Swindon would also be unable to pass us as they can only get to a max of 53 points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on April 14, 2017, 19:44:39 pm
Does this latest injury for Williams mean that it's not worth pursuing a permanent deal in the summer?
He has got the word "sicknote" on his CV.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 14, 2017, 20:05:48 pm
He has got the word "sicknote" on his CV.
l


To be fair, thats thevonly reason he is here!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on April 14, 2017, 22:51:33 pm
Yes, but he was our best player first half. I would personally sign him.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 14, 2017, 22:57:34 pm
Yes, but he was our best player first half. I would personally sign him.

Really? Was he?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on April 15, 2017, 11:50:11 am
Really? Was he?
In my opinion yes, easily. 2nd half he looked knackered.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 15, 2017, 14:16:28 pm
Oldham currently leading Bolton 1-0 with ten men and about 5 minutes to go.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 15, 2017, 14:26:43 pm
Oldham win 1-0 against Bolton and move level with us on 51 points, we remain above them on goal difference.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 15, 2017, 15:28:47 pm
All (says I) we have to do is beat Shrewsbury on Monday and that will be that.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2017, 17:14:40 pm
Table:

16.   Northampton 44   14   10   20  52   
     
17.   Oldham     44   12   15   17  51   
     
18.   Gillingham    44   12   13   19  49   
     
19.   Shrewsbury   44   12   12     20  48   
     
20.   Bury              43   12   10   21  46   
     
21.   Port Vale      43   11   12   20  45   
     
22.   Swindon      44   11   11   22  44   
     
23.   Chesterfield   44   9   10   25  37   
     
24.   Coventry       44   8   12   24  36



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2017, 17:19:14 pm
Bury have Bolton away tomorrow which they'll lose probably and Vale are horrendous so that was a big point today.

Vale have Bolton, Walsall and Fleetwood
Bury have Bolton, Us and Southend

We should be OK but not quite mathematically safe just yet


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 17, 2017, 17:50:18 pm
Port Vale need to win all 3 games v Bolton, Walsall and Fleetwood.

We need to lose both our remaining games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 17, 2017, 18:03:40 pm
So not far off the situation the last time we fell out of this league


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 17, 2017, 18:09:06 pm
Port Vale need to win all 3 games v Bolton, Walsall and Fleetwood.

We need to lose both our remaining games.

I can see us doing our part of the equation.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2017, 18:16:39 pm
I can see us doing our part of the equation.
We're so crap this is very possible. If for some reason Bury and Vale do manage a couple of wins the pressure will be huge.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 18, 2017, 09:20:06 am
So not far off the situation the last time we fell out of this league

Similar.

With 2 games to go we beat Hereford to reach 49 points and open up a 2 point gap over the relegation zone (Carlisle) with a game in hand and a much better GD going in to the final week of the season. We needed 1 point to survive.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-one/2008-2009/table/2009-04-25

We lost to both Milton Keynes & Leeds. Carlisle beat Millwall and we went down by 1 point.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Baby Bear on April 18, 2017, 09:53:45 am
Didn't Millwall play pretty much a reserve side,  due to them being already qualified for the play offs?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 18, 2017, 10:00:51 am
Yes, our new friends stitched us right up


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Benji on April 18, 2017, 10:27:11 am
I remember the mk game, we set out and played for a 0-0 draw against a dons team that was pretty much on the beach. We had no intention of going forward and in the end seemed to bore Milton Keynes into actually attacking with the inevitable result.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 18, 2017, 10:43:38 am
Port Vale have lost their last 4 games and failed to score in these matches.  To me Vale look doomed and with Swindon unable to catch us 52 points look enough but I won't be thinking that at 3pm on Saturday. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2017, 20:51:28 pm
Bolton 0 Bury 0 HT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 18, 2017, 20:53:49 pm
Sounds fairly even, neither have had a shot on target.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 18, 2017, 21:32:06 pm
It doesn't help that they've only got one fit striker, having said that I can't say that I was really impressed by Bolton in our two games. Looking at bury's team on paper we're going to have a tough game on Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2017, 21:38:06 pm
It doesn't help that they've only got one fit striker, having said that I can't say that I was really impressed by Bolton in our two games. Looking at bury's team on paper we're going to have a tough game on Saturday.
I reckon Bury will bury us..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 18, 2017, 21:43:51 pm
We need Bolton to put us out of our misery on Saturday when they play port vale but they seem to be getting a case of the jitters.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2017, 21:55:27 pm
0-0 FT

Keeps Bury down there at least.

Roll on Saturday


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 18, 2017, 21:57:10 pm
We need Bolton to put us out of our misery on Saturday when they play port vale but they seem to be getting a case of the jitters.

Lost without scoring against Oldham, and now can't score past Bury....victory over Vale is not the foregone conclusion I had hoped for!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 18, 2017, 21:58:53 pm
The wait for safety goes on....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:03:07 pm
We are safe, some of you are funny, I imagine you wear three condoms and still pull out fearing a worst case scenario.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 18, 2017, 22:05:15 pm
Did you start supporting us after 2008/09?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:11:46 pm
Did you start supporting us after 2008/09?

Why do you ask? Did we go down with 52 points then? Were there 8 team below us with 2 games to go?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 18, 2017, 22:14:25 pm
We were 'definitely safe' with 2 to go. Still went down. You're not safe until you're safe.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monty on April 18, 2017, 22:17:01 pm
Be nice to get over the line but I see those below us having to play Bolton, Southend, Fleetwood - all teams with a lot to play for, which wasn't the case in 2009. It would take the weirdest set of results for us to drop now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:17:10 pm
We were 'definitely safe' with 2 to go. Still went down. You're not safe until you're safe.

I imagine you insure you house twice, you know, in case the first policy is destroyed in the fire.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 18, 2017, 22:21:04 pm
Be nice to get over the line but I see those below us having to play Bolton, Southend, Fleetwood - all teams with a lot to play for, which wasn't the case in 2009. It would take the weirdest set of results for us to drop now.

That much is true....but facts are facts.....there are two games to go and we are not mathematically certain of staying up!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:23:08 pm
I'll give you 200-1 anyone fancy sticking a tenner on us to go down? Easy money to dull the pain for all of you negative types.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monty on April 18, 2017, 22:26:56 pm
In all honesty, I'm more concerned about finishing with a whimper and avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth. It's a difficult sell to get players to join a club that finishes just above the relegation zone - and boy do we need some fresh blood.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2017, 22:28:21 pm
I'll give you 200-1 anyone fancy sticking a tenner on us to go down? Easy money to dull the pain for all of you negative types.
You seem a bit of a blert..You're not safe till your safe Windy..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:30:30 pm
In all honesty, I'm more concerned about finishing with a whimper and avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth. It's a difficult sell to get players to join a club that finishes just above the relegation zone - and boy do we need some fresh blood.

This is a good point, I reckon we'll get 3 or 4 points from our last 2 games, 15th will be as good as it gets now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 22:32:19 pm
You seem a bit of a blert..You're not safe till your safe Windy..

It's "you're"


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 18, 2017, 22:36:16 pm
In all honesty, I'm more concerned about finishing with a whimper and avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth. It's a difficult sell to get players to join a club that finishes just above the relegation zone - and boy do we need some fresh blood.

Agree with you there! But it seems that 90% of our fans would have taken a 20th place finish before a ball was even kicked this season!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 18, 2017, 23:11:42 pm
I think we are safe but this is football.

I didnt think we'd win the league by so far last year.
I didn't think we would beat Liverpool.
I didn't think Leicester would win the premier league and then be the last English club In the champions league.
I thought we would go down the season wilder saved us.

One of the reasons football is so good is its ability to throw everything up in the air so u til we are mathematically safe I'll be cautious.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 18, 2017, 23:16:04 pm
We are safe, some of you are funny, I imagine you wear three condoms and still pull out fearing a worst case scenario.

Don't know about you, but I watched us go down under Gray when at the time it seemed harder to achieve that feat other than gain the 1 point from the last two games. Whilst I agree that the situation is more in our favour this time; the simple fact is that we are not yet safe. Some of our players may feel that their contract may not be renewed come what may. Furthermore we will be without two of our top players. True Port Vale might trip up, but our failure to achieve sufficient points over the last few games is to say the least disconcerting. No amount of spin from you can disguise the simple fact that we are "Not Safe" as yet.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 18, 2017, 23:23:37 pm
I think we are safe but this is football.

I didnt think we'd win the league by so far last year.
I didn't think we would beat Liverpool.
I didn't think Leicester would win the premier league and then be the last English club In the champions league.
I thought we would go down the season wilder saved us.

One of the reasons football is so good is its ability to throw everything up in the air so u til we are mathematically safe I'll be cautious.

This post sums up the majority of you lot on here. All predictions or assumptions start with "We won't" "We can't" etc. Negative. Not one positive prediction.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 19, 2017, 00:33:52 am
This post sums up the majority of you lot on here. All predictions or assumptions start with "We won't" "We can't" etc. Negative. Not one positive prediction.
Nope, it started with  'I think we are safe'.
Go check.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Alfred on April 19, 2017, 07:10:21 am
I'll give you 200-1 anyone fancy sticking a tenner on us to go down? Easy money to dull the pain for all of you negative types.

The irony ..... Your so confident that you are only offering 200/1 ..... Which is less than u can get at the bookies and much less than a well thought out accumulator.

Why can't u understand some people want to wait till its mathematically certain till they acknowledge it.....

Your guess work is probably right


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 08:21:34 am
The irony ..... Your so confident that you are only offering 200/1 ..... Which is less than u can get at the bookies and much less than a well thought out accumulator.

Why can't u understand some people want to wait till its mathematically certain till they acknowledge it.....

Your guess work is probably right

I guess that proves my point.

By the way, why can't you understand that it's "you're"?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Alfred on April 19, 2017, 09:46:43 am
I guess that proves my point.

By the way, why can't you understand that it's "you're"?

Your point being your so confident of a dead cert you give it the massive and offer worse odds than the bookies.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: rebelspawn on April 19, 2017, 09:52:14 am
This post sums up the majority of you lot on here. All predictions or assumptions start with "We won't" "We can't" etc. Negative. Not one positive prediction.

The FACT is, at this point we can stay up, or we can go down. you are the one making the assumption by declaring us safe when mathematically we are not.

It is a very unlikely scenario that would see us relegated, but its still a possibility. those that witnessed the relegation under Stuart Gray are familiar with those type of scenarios, and hence are cautious.

for the record - I think we will stay up, but to claim that we ARE safe, when mathematically we are not, is to make an assumption.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 19, 2017, 10:15:53 am
I wouldn't put my house on it, would anyone?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wrigleys on April 19, 2017, 10:46:35 am
To add a bit of spice, literally, if we are relegated I commit to cutting off my ****, frying it and eating it with a bag of chips from the Bushland chippy. All on Facebook live. Any donations will go towards buying a small ceremonial coffin for my ex todger which will be displayed (I understand) on the end of season open bus celebrations


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: mitsymad on April 19, 2017, 11:02:49 am
To add a bit of spice, literally, if we are relegated I commit to cutting off my ****, frying it and eating it with a bag of chips from the Bushland chippy. All on Facebook live. Any donations will go towards buying a small ceremonial coffin for my ex todger which will be displayed (I understand) on the end of season open bus celebrations

I've heard Oxford have booked a victory bus, maybe book a space on that 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 19, 2017, 11:07:50 am
I'll give you 200-1 anyone fancy sticking a tenner on us to go down? Easy money to dull the pain for all of you negative types.
how about if we get relegated you agree to donate £1000 to cobblers in the community?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: the grumpy old man on April 19, 2017, 11:29:39 am
In order for us to be relegated we need to lose our last 2 games and Port Vale need to win their last 3 as we are 7 points ahead of them with a vastly superior goal difference (-10 to their -24). Port Vale have lost their last four games without scoring and have Bolton (H), Walsall (A) and Fleetwood (A) left to play. If they win those three they will deserve to stay up. One point of course will be enough for us to stay up, but with the way we are playing at the moment that might be difficult.

There are plenty of other teams below us of course and surely they can't all overtake us ? As always with the Cobblers though, you just never know.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 19, 2017, 11:49:40 am
I notice that Bolton have scored once in the last 5 or 6 games and are really missing madine who is injured - hopefully he'll be back on Saturday. Looking at the striking options that bury have I can't believe they're where they are - Vaughan, pope and Ryan Lowe - and if we play anything like we did against millwall and Shrewsbury we are going to lose.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 19, 2017, 12:05:17 pm
I notice that Bolton have scored once in the last 5 or 6 games and are really missing madine who is injured - hopefully he'll be back on Saturday. Looking at the striking options that bury have I can't believe they're where they are - Vaughan, pope and Ryan Lowe - and if we play anything like we did against millwall and Shrewsbury we are going to lose.

Strange side Bury are!! Agreed, on paper they look to have decent options up front, but Pope has only scored 1 in his last 18, Lowe is 38 years old now and again has only scored a single goal since returning from Crewe.
Vaughan though has been the exception, 22 goals so far this season, yet only 1 in his last 6.

Bury's problems have been at the other end, 72 goals conceded. I suppose they're similar to us (70 conceded) in that people probably look at Richards and Revell with Matt Taylor and JJOT behind and then wonder why we have struggled this season too.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on April 19, 2017, 12:25:05 pm
PORT VALE HAVE WON ONCE AWAY FROM HOME ALL SEASON - AND THAT WAS SIX MONTHS AGO!!! They suddenly have to win both of their away games... and their final home game too... all against teams well above them in the table.

Bury also need to win both their games.

Shrewsbury also need to win both their games - the same Shrewsbury side who couldn't beat a poor 10 man Cobblers team on Monday.

Gillingham also need to beat us... and pick up something against Fleetwood.

Even Oldham need to pick up another win.

The table doesn't lie after 44 games - all of those teams average about 1 point per game.. they aren't all suddenly going to win together in the final couple of games!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: threeinabed on April 19, 2017, 12:26:43 pm
in that people probably look at Richards and Revell with Matt Taylor and JJOT behind and then wonder why we have struggled this season too.

i dont think anyone would be thinking that.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Knockingonabit on April 19, 2017, 12:37:42 pm
Exactly, CobblertilliDie. Gillingham, Shrewsbury, Bury and Port Vale have 9 matches left between them and if any of those result in a defeat we are safe (to keep it simple that's making the assumption that Gillingham cannot overturn a goal difference of 9). Unfortunately two of those nine games involve us...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 13:36:25 pm
This is a good point, I reckon we'll get 3 or 4 points from our last 2 games, 15th will be as good as it gets now.

I hope you are going to Bury?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 14:24:12 pm
I hope you are going to Bury?

Why?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 14:24:57 pm
Your point being your so confident of a dead cert you give it the massive and offer worse odds than the bookies.



Again, it's "you're"


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 14:25:49 pm
how about if we get relegated you agree to donate £1000 to cobblers in the community?

No problem, what are you donating when we don't?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on April 19, 2017, 14:34:32 pm
Again, it's "you're"
I think you're wrong  ;).
"You're" is short for you are, your is when something belongs to you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 19, 2017, 14:41:57 pm
I think you're wrong  ;).
"You're" is short for you are, your is when something belongs to you.

The second 'your'....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: threeinabed on April 19, 2017, 14:47:21 pm
Again, it's "you're"

ever had the feeling your being reeled in.......................


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 15:08:52 pm
I think you're wrong  ;).
"You're" is short for you are, your is when something belongs to you.

"Your so confident"


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 19, 2017, 15:32:06 pm
No problem, what are you donating when we don't?
nothing. Your the one that is super confident.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 15:52:20 pm
Why?

Just answer the query please. Yes or No , it cannot be that difficult.

Can only hope that one who regularly comments on Cobbler matters; would be there as a matter of course or even principle.





Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 15:57:36 pm
"Your so confident"

It would helped if you made it clear in your original correction to say the second "your". Its all pedantic tho'; its a message board not a grammar exam! Anyway are you going to Bury?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 16:14:08 pm

..............................who couldn't beat a poor 10 man Cobblers team on Monday.


Thats a bit harsh, the back four did ok?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 19, 2017, 16:27:09 pm
"Your so confident"
It's you're so confident, come on Windy I thought you were better than this.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 16:40:49 pm
It's you're so confident, come on Windy I thought you were better than this.

Wow, it really has gone over your head hasn't it?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 16:42:08 pm
Just answer the query please. Yes or No , it cannot be that difficult.

Can only hope that one who regularly comments on Cobbler matters; would be there as a matter of course or even principle.





Nope, awkward trains, nothing to play for, can't be bothered. I hope this doesn't upset you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 17:38:45 pm
Nope, awkward trains, nothing to play for, can't be bothered. I hope this doesn't upset you.

Of course it hasn't upset me - its your choice; strange one at that.  Fancy you of all people showing apathy.  The coach is only £15.00! Go on make the effort?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 19, 2017, 18:00:20 pm
Why?
Because a few werks back, weren't you advocating playing a youth/reserve outfit for our final few games?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 18:25:04 pm
Of course it hasn't upset me - its your choice; strange one at that.  Fancy you of all people showing apathy.  The coach is only £15.00! Go on make the effort?

No chance of me being on the bus, will be full of people from this forum worrying that it will probably break down/run out of fuel for the whole journey.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 18:27:42 pm
Because a few werks back, weren't you advocating playing a youth/reserve outfit for our final few games?

Nope, don't just make up random b0ll0cks. Just players who might be here next season, close to our last home game actually. Hopefully Hanley and McWilliams get a start at Bury.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 18:37:43 pm
Nope, don't just make up random b0ll0cks. Just players who might be here next season, close to our last home game actually. Hopefully Hanley and McWilliams get a start at Bury.

I am beginning to think you are not quite all there - your last two messages seem to indicate that. If you hope two reserve players should play then at least you should be there at Bury to support the Cobbs  - Yes?

ps "Still room on the Earls Barton coach - Barton"  - thats a very nice Coach with genuine supporters!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 18:41:29 pm
I am beginning to think you are not quite all there - your last two messages seem to indicate that. If you hope two reserve players should play then at least you should be there at Bury to support the Cobbs  - Yes?

ps "Still room on the Earls Barton coach - Barton"  - thats a very nice Coach with genuine supporters!

Who would you play at left back Einstein? Same goes for centre mid?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 19, 2017, 18:52:12 pm
Come on Cobbler78 and everbrite call a truce.

Although, it is quite fun seeing you both bickering.

Anyway, left back Eardley but you could pop Nyatanga there with McDonald at centre-half. When Nyatanga signed RP said he could cover the left-back position.       


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 19, 2017, 19:07:03 pm
Maybe this formation may work :-

                              Smith
           Diamond  Nyatanga  McDonald

Moloney                                          Eardley
                      Boateng

             Anderson            Taylor

                 Smith/Revell   Richards


Subs: Cornell, Phillips, MCourt, McWilliams, Beautyman/Revell, K Anderson & Hanley


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on April 19, 2017, 20:42:33 pm
Did you start supporting us after 2008/09?
I recall that day quite well. I was denied entry, for being p1ssed, I had only had two pints! They never confiscated my ticket, so I went over to Mcdonalds, had a cup of tea, and came back to automated turnstiles with no stewards around. Low and behold, my ticket also worked at a different turnstile. In I went to take a seat, only to find three stewards coming to sit with, and around me. Thee alright petal? they enquired. I didnt respond. And just sat there without opening my mouth, for the entire second half.
The worst part was those b@stards to the left of us, with the large "Kingsthorpe Whites" flag. Relegation was bad enough, but you dont need some tossers from The Windmill rubbing it in.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 21:26:35 pm
Come on Cobbler78 and everbrite call a truce.

Although, it is quite fun seeing you both bickering.

Anyway, left back Eardley but you could pop Nyatanga there with McDonald at centre-half. When Nyatanga signed RP said he could cover the left-back position.       

All I have done is hope that '78 will go to Bury.  Agree on Eardley, who could also play in midfield . Phillips might be ok at Left back.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 21:32:16 pm
All I have done is hope that '78 will go to Bury.  Agree on Eardley, who could also play in midfield also. Phillips might be ok at Left back.

Phillips struggled at left back on Saturday, admittedly we were down to 10 and he was up against an excellent winger. Hanley has to play, what is the point having a back up left back otherwise, he might just surprise you.

........................Smith...................
Moloney...Diamond...Nyatanga..Hanley

Anderson...McCourt...McWilliams..Taylor

...............Rico......Revs...........

Get the ball wide and get the crosses in, no useless diamond formation launching straight long balls up the middle.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 21:36:14 pm
This is better :

                              Smith
                  Diamond  Nyatanga 

Moloney                                     Phillips
                       Eardley

         Smith*                   Taylor
         

   Anderson(P)     Revell       Richards

* Maybe ok on right of midfield, will work and does seem to spend most of his time on the right?


Subs: Cornell, MCourt, McWilliams, Beautyman K Anderson,McDonald & Hanley


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 21:50:43 pm
This is better :

                              Smith
                  Diamond  Nyatanga 

Moloney                                     Phillips
                       Eardley

         Smith*                   Taylor
         

   Anderson(P)     Revell       Richards

* Maybe ok on right of midfield, will work and does seem to spend most of his time on the right?


Subs: Cornell, MCourt, McWilliams, Beautyman K Anderson,McDonald & Hanley


Smith on the right? Who?

Rico, the tricky left winger?

Phillips and Eardley out of position.

Erm, no thanks.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 19, 2017, 22:24:31 pm
Smith on the right? Who?

Rico, the tricky left winger?

Phillips and Eardley out of position.

Erm, no thanks.

It's our version of the Dutch total football side of the 70's.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 19, 2017, 22:25:45 pm
Michael Smith as a right midfielder. Christ.

He's probably our best option up front imo.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 19, 2017, 22:28:07 pm
I remember the mk game, we set out and played for a 0-0 draw against a dons team that was pretty much on the beach. We had no intention of going forward and in the end seemed to bore Milton Keynes into actually attacking with the inevitable result.
Was this a re-arranged game after the original was abandoned at half-time due to a waterlogged pitch? Were we 0-0 or 1-0 up in the original game? I remember we beat Hereford thinking we were then safe so that's why this year I'm thinking we're not safe until we're mathematically safe, even with the amount of teams below us and the need for a lot of results to conspire against us. We are not yet safe.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 22:33:31 pm
Michael Smith as a right midfielder. Christ.

He's probably our best option up front imo.

He can't have meant Michael Smith, surely hahaha


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: andycobbler on April 19, 2017, 22:45:18 pm
Phillips struggled at left back on Saturday, admittedly we were down to 10 and he was up against an excellent winger. Hanley has to play, what is the point having a back up left back otherwise, he might just surprise you.

........................Smith...................
Moloney...Diamond...Nyatanga..Hanley

Anderson...McCourt...McWilliams..Taylor

...............Rico......Revs...........

Get the ball wide and get the crosses in, no useless diamond formation launching straight long balls up the middle.

There's a reason why hanley doesn't play, try and work it out.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Benji on April 19, 2017, 22:52:25 pm
Michael Smith as a right midfielder. Christ.

He's probably our best option up front imo.
2 goals in 14 appearances  hardly prolific


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 23:06:35 pm
There's a reason why hanley doesn't play, try and work it out.

Yeah, Buchanan. Not many left backs in the lower two leagues are better than him, have you ever seen Hanley play? I guess not. So stop being a patronising prick.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 23:10:40 pm
He can't have meant Michael Smith, surely hahaha

It was suggested by someone(real expert) else it might be worth a try.  Sorry to suggest something different ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 19, 2017, 23:36:25 pm
It was suggested by someone(real expert) else it might be worth a try.  Sorry to suggest something different ::)

I have heard some things on this board, but that just about tops it. Maybe Keshi can fill in as our tough tackling midfielder.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 19, 2017, 23:55:26 pm
I have heard some things on this board, but that just about tops it. Maybe Keshi can fill in as our tough tackling midfielder.

Still think MSmith will make a dashing right midfielder - its were he plays anyway!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 20, 2017, 00:32:15 am
2 goals in 14 appearances  hardly prolific

Goals wise, I agree. Personally think he offers most though. Wouldn't mind seeing him and Keshi up top.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 20, 2017, 06:39:44 am
It was suggested by someone(real expert) else it might be worth a try.  Sorry to suggest something different ::)

Are you sure this real expert wasn't referring to Martin smith - even then he'd be out of position on the right but at least he was a midfielder? Thinking about it I bet Martin smith could still contribute more than some of our current attacking options.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2017, 07:14:57 am
Are you sure this real expert wasn't referring to Martin smith - even then he'd be out of position on the right but at least he was a midfielder? Thinking about it I bet Martin smith could still contribute more than some of our current attacking options.

We have in the past converted fwds to midfielders and vice versa with a modicum of success. The Smith in question is one of our current strikers except he has forgotten how to score(2/14). Must admit it was a flippant suggestion! We are short of players following the red cards recently. Finally have a feeling Smith might be injured?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2017, 07:18:52 am
I have heard some things on this board, but that just about tops it.

 ;D at least you have a sense of humour. A bit on the ironic side tho'.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 20, 2017, 08:20:05 am
We have in the past converted fwds to midfielders and vice versa with a modicum of success. The Smith in question is one of our current strikers except he has forgotten how to score(2/14). Must admit it was a flippant suggestion! We are short of players following the red cards recently. Finally have a feeling Smith might be injured?

Yes, Michael smith is injured and I thought we missed him on Monday - I still don't think that a 6ft 3 striker would make a good right winger but I agree that we need to shuffle the pack!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: andycobbler on April 20, 2017, 09:14:51 am
Yeah, Buchanan. Not many left backs in the lower two leagues are better than him, have you ever seen Hanley play? I guess not. So stop being a patronising prick.

FYI I watched Hanley play against West Ham in the pointless cup as well as other cameos this season and it's obvious you haven't otherwise you wouldn't be suggesting he starts. Now fxck off you patronising prick.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 20, 2017, 10:26:28 am
We have in the past converted fwds to midfielders and vice versa with a modicum of success. The Smith in question is one of our current strikers except he has forgotten how to score(2/14). Must admit it was a flippant suggestion! We are short of players following the red cards recently. Finally have a feeling Smith might be injured?

Smith seemed to be playing on the wing when we played away to Wimbledon recently. Cant remember whether it was right or left, I was half cut at the timeÖbut he was definitely playing out wide!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 20, 2017, 10:30:24 am
Our current situation cannot be compared to the one we faced when we went down under Gray. I remember, 2 games leftÖwe were 10/1 at the bookies to be relegated. This time we are not even listed with most of them!

Statistically its got to be well over 1000/1. Around 8 or 9 results have got to come in, most of which are extremely unlikely results. Anyone whose tried an 8 or 9 match accumulator picking long odd possibilities each time will know where Im coming from.

Theres more chance of Corbyn becoming prime ministerÖin 2022!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 20, 2017, 11:03:36 am
Our current situation cannot be compared to the one we faced when we went down under Gray. I remember, 2 games leftÖwe were 10/1 at the bookies to be relegated. This time we are not even listed with most of them!

Statistically its got to be well over 1000/1. Around 8 or 9 results have got to come in, most of which are extremely unlikely results. Anyone whose tried an 8 or 9 match accumulator picking long odd possibilities each time will know where Im coming from.

Theres more chance of Corbyn becoming prime ministerÖin 2022!



Or June this year?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 20, 2017, 11:06:54 am
Or June this year?

Theres a small chance he could become prime minister in June; I wouldn't bet on it though!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on April 20, 2017, 11:18:24 am
Smith seemed to be playing on the wing when we played away to Wimbledon recently. Cant remember whether it was right or left, I was half cut at the timeÖbut he was definitely playing out wide!!
Rather than remain static he runs out wide looking for the out ball from either full back. Unfortunately his willingness to work hard for the team leaves him outside the box when the ball is delivered, hence his lack of goals.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 20, 2017, 13:18:22 pm
Rather than remain static he runs out wide looking for the out ball from either full back. Unfortunately his willingness to work hard for the team leaves him outside the box when the ball is delivered, hence his lack of goals.

Appreciate what you are saying and they are good points. But at Wimbledon it seemed like he was out wide as part of the formation, at least for the bulk of the game. If you went to Wimbledon and can clarify that wasn't the case I will accept it though as I was a little p1ssed!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 20, 2017, 16:48:04 pm
Pretty sure he was out wide at Rochdale too


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2017, 17:40:00 pm
Pretty sure he was out wide at Rochdale too

Well well! I have been assured by two experts on here that MS cannot play on the right!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 20, 2017, 18:38:56 pm

Well well! I have been assured by two experts on here that MS cannot play on the right!

Stephen Hawkins could play on the right!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 20, 2017, 19:05:20 pm
Stephen Hawkins could play on the right!
*Hawking*  Blert


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on April 20, 2017, 19:42:56 pm
*Hawking*  Blert

Nah, he'd be useless! I was on about the bloke from the pub, not the professor as that would be ridiculous 😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 20, 2017, 20:32:40 pm
Appreciate what you are saying and they are good points. But at Wimbledon it seemed like he was out wide as part of the formation, at least for the bulk of the game. If you went to Wimbledon and can clarify that wasn't the case I will accept it though as I was a little p1ssed!!

Ah Wimbledon, that time that we looked like we could win a game


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 21, 2017, 08:27:58 am
I honestly cant see us winning another game this season, IMO we will loose to Bury and it only needs a couple of results to go against us for it to start getting ugly!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: meccanostand on April 21, 2017, 09:37:24 am
I honestly cant see us winning another game this season, IMO we will loose to Bury and it only needs a couple of results to go against us for it to start getting ugly!

Obviously there is that Stuart Gray relegation season at the back of our minds.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 21, 2017, 09:59:22 am
On a more positive note I can see all of Gillingham, Shrewsbury & Port Vale losing. On a negative note (and may I be wrong) I can't see us getting anything at Bury. Our away record is atrocious.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobbler150 on April 21, 2017, 12:03:56 pm
Vale and Swindon will go down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 22, 2017, 18:19:49 pm
The Cobblers limp over the safety line: Swindon are confirmed down and Vale have to win out hope we can be Gilly. Bury should be OK with a draw next week.

16   Northamptn45   -13   52
17   Oldham   45   -13   52
18   Shrewsbur  45   -15   51
19   Bury           45   -11   50
20   Gillingham   45   -20   49
21   Port Vale   44   -26   45
22   Swindon   45   -19   44
23   Coventry   45   -29   39
24   Chesterfield45   -34   37


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 22, 2017, 19:26:59 pm
Vale and Swindon will go down.

Looks like a good shout.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 25, 2017, 22:00:25 pm
Final game of the season and there are still 4 teams that can mathematically go down.

18. Shrewsbury    P 45   Pts 51  GD -15   GS 46
19. Bury              P 45   Pts 50  GD -11  GS 61
20. Gillingham      P 45   Pts 49  GD -20  GS 59
-----------------------------------------------------
21. Port Vale        P 45   Pts 48  GD -25   GS 45
22. Swindon         P 45   Pts 44
23. Coventry        P 45   Pts 39
24. Chesterfield    P 45   Pts 37

Scenarios for Sunday....

Vale win and Gillingham & Bury lose......GILLINGHAM DOWN
Vale draw and Gillingham lose by less than 6 goals  VALE DOWN
Vale draw and Gillingham lose by 6 or more.....GILLINGHAM DOWN
Vale draw and Gillingham draw......VALE DOWN
Vale lose......VALE DOWN
Vale win, Gillingham draw and Bury lose.....GILLINGHAM DOWN
Vale win, Gillingham win and Bury lose.....BURY DOWN
Vale win, Gillingham win and Bury draw.....VALE DOWN
Vale win, Gillingham win, Bury win and Shrewsbury lose.....VALE DOWN (unless there is a 10 goal swing between Vale and Shrews in which case SHREWS DOWN)
They all win....VALE DOWN


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 25, 2017, 22:04:37 pm
Will be interesting to see what team JED puts out against his old team?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 25, 2017, 22:35:52 pm
Fleetwood still have a chance to go up automatically. If they beat Vale and Pish beat Bolton they will finish 2nd. Which is pretty amazing considering they're tinpot.

I still think Vale will drop as I can't see them beating Fleetwood. That being said I think Gillingham will bend us over.

Next season is looking ominous


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerTilIDie on April 26, 2017, 08:58:03 am
Fleetwood still have a chance to go up automatically. If they beat Vale and Pish beat Bolton they will finish 2nd. Which is pretty amazing considering they're tinpot.

I still think Vale will drop as I can't see them beating Fleetwood. That being said I think Gillingham will bend us over.

Next season is looking ominous

I know we haven't been in great form recently... but one thing we have done pretty well this season is beat most of the poor teams at home. Even Shrewsbury failed to beat us when we played for half an hour with 10 men.

Gillingham have no sort of away form at present. The pressure is well and truly on them. We can now play with the pressure off and look to end the season on a high. We all know we are far from being where we need to be, but there is no reason why we can't beat Gillingham - I for one am not expecting them to turn us over.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wingman on April 26, 2017, 11:15:51 am

"Gillingham have no sort of away form at present."


Neither did Vale 'til last night.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 26, 2017, 21:46:18 pm
Where as we just have no form period


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 30, 2017, 13:59:11 pm
Coventry, Chesterfield, Swindon and Vale just confirmed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monty on April 30, 2017, 16:28:36 pm
16th finish is ok, all things considered. Might be high enough that potential signings aren't too scared to come.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on April 30, 2017, 17:46:41 pm
16th finish is ok, all things considered. Might be high enough that potential signings aren't too scared to come.
Considering what, we finished runaway champions last season?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 30, 2017, 18:08:50 pm
Considering what, we finished runaway champions last season?

Yeah, that and the fact that we beat Oxford to the title by 13 points last season, yet finished 16 points below them this......that's gotta be progress eh?  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 30, 2017, 19:30:31 pm
16th finish is ok, all things considered. Might be high enough that potential signings aren't too scared to come.
16th is dreadful considering we walked L2 last season


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 30, 2017, 19:34:46 pm
They say the table never lies at the end of the seasonÖI think that is true this season.

We were the best of the crap teams, overall above have been more consistent, the ones below we have mainly beaten.

With more pace in the team I reckon we'd have finished 11th-13th. Forget ability/overall ability. Some pace would have seen us finish a bit higher. Gorre was rubbish but he was quick. Teams set up 10 yards further back when we had him in the team. Now they play a high line, they've nothing to worry about in that regard.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 30, 2017, 21:07:19 pm
16th is dreadful considering we walked L2 last season

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monty on April 30, 2017, 21:15:09 pm
Considering what, we finished runaway champions last season?
Considering that a couple of days ago, it looked like we'd maybe finish 20th, making us a no-go area for any decent signings. 16th is an easier sell, you might say only slightly, and you'd be right - but it may prove to be very significant.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 30, 2017, 21:20:26 pm
16th is dreadful considering we walked L2 last season

If you had offered me 16th the day Wilder & Holmes walked out the door, I would have bitten your hand off.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on April 30, 2017, 21:23:30 pm
16th is dreadful considering we walked L2 last season
Yes, I agree, we should have won League One this season!!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 30, 2017, 22:02:49 pm
Yes, I agree, we should have won League One this season!!!!
Top half at least. We only really lost Wilds, Holmes and Adams.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobbler_rob on April 30, 2017, 22:14:18 pm
Top half at least. We only really lost Wilds, Holmes and Adams.

Yeah no one important. Adams & Holmes who have both won player of the year at their new clubs


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on May 01, 2017, 09:57:35 am
Considering that a couple of days ago, it looked like we'd maybe finish 20th, making us a no-go area for any decent signings. 16th is an easier sell, you might say only slightly, and you'd be right - but it may prove to be very significant.
At our level I really doubt that a player looks too much at the finishing position the previous season, more at the cash and location.  If 2 clubs offer the same then it might come into play.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wrigleys on August 06, 2017, 19:28:24 pm
Think we should start keeping an eye on this now...

Rotherham, Shrewsbury down there in the mix with us, even with yesterday's results I reckon


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on August 06, 2017, 20:04:02 pm
Think we should start keeping an eye on this now...

Rotherham, Shrewsbury down there in the mix with us, even with yesterday's results I reckon

It'gonna be exciting...Oldham at Sixfields final day!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on August 06, 2017, 22:35:14 pm
Speaking with my Oldham friend it sounds like they were as bad as us yesterday.

Really looking forward (not) to bringing him down on the last day



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on August 07, 2017, 11:44:28 am
Think we should start keeping an eye on this now...

Rotherham, Shrewsbury down there in the mix with us, even with yesterday's results I reckon

:) :) :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 12, 2017, 16:56:23 pm
Mongs
Us
Rovers
Oldham

Bottom 4


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on August 12, 2017, 19:43:17 pm
We are doomed. JED out.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 20, 2017, 18:59:10 pm
21.Dale
22.Dons
23.Us
24.Oldham

Us and Oldham are the only 2 teams on 0pts


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on August 21, 2017, 10:11:33 am
JED out


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on September 02, 2017, 23:50:36 pm
There seem to be a number of particularly poor teams in the league this season.

Ourselves aside, Oldham and Gillingham have started the season remarkably poorly. With Oldham yet to pick up a single point from five games. Gillingham also seem likely to struggle and are winless so far this season. Plus there are teams like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale operating on relatively small budgets who have also made an unconvincing start to the campaign.

Considering the (perceived) quality of the players in our squad, even a reasonable managerial appointment should see us recover to a comfortable lower mid table position this season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on September 03, 2017, 00:28:45 am
There seem to be a number of particularly poor teams in the league this season.

Ourselves aside, Oldham and Gillingham have started the season remarkably poorly. With Oldham yet to pick up a single point from five games. Gillingham also seem likely to struggle and are winless so far this season. Plus there are teams like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale operating on relatively small budgets who have also made an unconvincing start to the campaign.

Considering the (perceived) quality of the players in our squad, even a reasonable managerial appointment should see us recover to a comfortable lower mid table position this season.

God willing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on September 03, 2017, 00:30:35 am
Fair play to Shrewsbury though .
I had them to finish bottom


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 03, 2017, 05:59:28 am
God willing
Following their signing of Zakuani, I had a bit of a read of Gillinghams fansites prior to the season starting. They were waxing lyrical about all the fabulous players they had signed and how it was job done on the recruitment front. The way they were going on you'd have thought they were the PSG of division 1. This was before we had signed hardly anyone. Just shows you that the players really are only half the story. Hopefully the new bloke (or for the benefit of the barmy PC brigade, girl) can turn us into a decent unit. That's a point, hang about a week and Adrian Pennock could be our man?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Welly Cobb on September 03, 2017, 10:30:19 am
We've played 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 7th in the League, which suggests that we have perhaps been a bit unlucky with the run of fixtures so far.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on September 03, 2017, 11:43:41 am
We've played 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 7th in the League, which suggests that we have perhaps been a bit unlucky with the run of fixtures so far.

And given them all 3 points which is why they are there. I hate this meaningless argument after so few games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 03, 2017, 12:32:56 pm
And given them all 3 points which is why they are there. I hate this meaningless argument after so few games.

Not entirely true... though some notable exceptions if you look at the league 1 table from 10th September 2016;

Quote
#      Team              Played   W   D   L   F   A   GD   Pts   END POS
1   Bolton                 6   4   2   0   9   5   4   14   2
2   Bradford                 6   3   3   0   8   4   4   12   5
3   Fleetwood Town         6   3   2   1   10   5   5   11   4
4   Millwall                 6   3   2   1   12   10   2   11   6
5   Sc***horpe         5   3   1   1   13   7   6   10   3
6   Peterboro                 6   3   1   2   13   8   5   10   11
7   Port Vale                 6   3   1   2   7   6   1   10   21
8   Gillingham                 6   3   1   2   10   12   -2   10   20
9   Bury                         6   2   2   2   10   7   3   8   19
10   Charlton                 5   2   2   1   7   5   2   8   13
11   Northampton         6   1   5   0   6   5   1   8   16
12   Swindon                 5   2   2   1   6   6   0   8   22
13   Chesterfield         6   2   1   3   9   9   0   7   24
14   Milton Keynes Dons   6   2   1   3   7   9   -2   7   12
15   Oxford                 6   2   1   3   6   8   -2   7   8
16   Shrewsbury         6   2   1   3   7   10   -3   7   18
17   Sheffield United         6   2   1   3   6   9   -3   7   1
18   Oldham                 6   1   3   2   4   7   -3   6   17
19   Walsall                 5   1   2   2   7   8   -1   5   14
20   AFC Wimbledon         6   1   2   3   6   9   -3   5   15
21   Southend                 6   1   2   3   6   9   -3   5   7
22   Bristol Rvs                 4   1   1   2   5   7   -2   4   10
23   Coventry                 6   0   3   3   2   7   -5   3   23
24   Rochdale                 6   0   2   4   4   8   -4   2   9



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on September 03, 2017, 13:14:09 pm
We've played 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 7th in the League, which suggests that we have perhaps been a bit unlucky with the run of fixtures so far.
Yeah, but half the reason they're 1st, 2nd...is because they've played us!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on September 03, 2017, 13:27:25 pm
Taking the results gained against us away, our four opponents have played between them 15, winning 11, drawing 2 and losing 2.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on September 04, 2017, 16:55:34 pm
Taking the results gained against us away, our four opponents have played between them 15, winning 11, drawing 2 and losing 2.


Taking the results gained against us away, we are unbeaten.  8)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on September 04, 2017, 17:18:17 pm
Whoever takes over, its looking more like JFH, lets leave the Champagne football on ice until safety is assured and the present squad can be trusted, yes Jeds formations were bewildering but the professionalism of those in the claret was way short of what you'd expect.
I also hope the young guns get given more game time, lobjob and licfannio can do no worse than Rico and Revel.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on September 05, 2017, 10:50:57 am
If JFH can maintain his career stats for us over the rest of this season we will finish on 65 points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lodgeadam on September 05, 2017, 17:21:48 pm
If JFH can maintain his career stats for us over the rest of this season we will finish on 65 points.

That would've seen us finish 11th last season. Think I'd take that!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Quintonside on September 05, 2017, 17:32:35 pm
What would we have got if JED had continued to produce his career stats?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on September 05, 2017, 18:36:53 pm
What would we have got if JED had continued to produce his career stats?

59


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ceebee2 on September 05, 2017, 23:31:58 pm
What would we have got if JED had continued to produce his career stats?
A big fat zero - P46 W0 D0 L46 - based on his record for 2017/18 so far :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 06, 2017, 00:54:47 am
A big fat zero - P46 W0 D0 L46 - based on his record for 2017/18 so far :)
Perhaps we'd have made Wembley in the FA cup though, every cloud?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on September 06, 2017, 07:21:55 am
If JFH can maintain his career stats for us over the rest of this season we will finish on 65 points.
I make it 67 points. Not that it really matters!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on September 06, 2017, 09:30:00 am
I make it 67 points. Not that it really matters!

When the calculation resulted in a fractional result I rounded down, a bit bit difficult to justify 0.426 of a win.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on September 06, 2017, 10:26:48 am
We have 42 games left not 41


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on September 06, 2017, 11:10:18 am
From Wiki looking at manager stats for last 6 managers it is interesting to note that the 2 least successful managers are both plying their trade with national teams and JFH pts per game is higher than the one and only Chris Wilder!

JFH  136 gms,  43.4% wins  1.595 pts/game
CW   766 gms, 44.1% wins, 1.567 pts/game
GJ     961 gms, 40.2% wins, 1.446 pts/game
JED   486 gms, 39.5% wins, 1.442 pts/game
AB    367 gms, 36.8% wins, 1.368 pts/game
RP     132 gms, 35.6% wins, 1.295 pts/game


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on September 06, 2017, 16:48:03 pm
We have 42 games left not 41

Did anyone say otherwise?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on September 07, 2017, 07:14:55 am
Did anyone say otherwise?
Was trying to work out where the difference was in our calculations for points for the season. Only way I could see was if you had calculated over 41 and not 42 games. Doesn't matter anyway, I'd be happy with 60+ points at the end of the season!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 09, 2017, 17:39:33 pm
Looking much better:

21. Dale 3
22. Cobblers 3 Played a game less
23. Gills 2
24. Oldham 1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on September 10, 2017, 11:33:22 am
This thread can be closed.

We are going to finish mid table. Jimmy is the man we've been waiting for since Wilder left.

We've had the right players since start of season, JED was just the wrong man putting square pegs in round holes.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on September 10, 2017, 14:34:40 pm
Jimmy will get the best out or a squad that should survive the drop but I cant see anything other than a hard fought relegation battle ahead.
Thats not saying we're a bad side more that this division is looking tough, there's at least 15 clubs that expect a playoff position as a minimum and 8 fighting for survival of which we're one, at this time.
We should accept it and get into a proper mind set for  the battle ahead, every goal scored or point earned could be the one that saves us.
We need to hope and I believe  we can do, put a bit of distance between us the bottom four come Easter.
Exciting times indeed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2017, 20:04:28 pm
Time for an update

21. Cobblers 8
22. Gills 7
23. Oldham 7
24. Plymouth 5

We welcome Plymouth to the relegation party..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 10, 2017, 16:19:06 pm
Latest:

21. Wombles 9
22. Cobblers 8
23. Gilly 7
24. Plymouth 5

Oldham leave the Party for now!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on October 10, 2017, 16:45:08 pm
Still very confident we can finish above Gillingham and Wimbledon. Probably Oldham as well? We're lucky that there are some other very very poor sides in this division (as well as ourselves). Saturdays game is already a massive one.

Must admit my surprise that Plymouth are struggling so badly though. I thought they'd be a top half side in League One. 



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on October 10, 2017, 18:16:08 pm
Latest:

21. Wombles 9
22. Cobblers 8
23. Gilly 7
24. Plymouth 5

Oldham leave the Party for now!!!
Itll be 4 from the bottom 9 so please  show all the basket cases as we will all be playing musical chairs from
 now until May.
Cobblers surviving on goal difference looks unlikely now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 17, 2017, 18:10:51 pm
Update after Wombles game:

21. Wombles 12
22. Gilly 10
23 Cobbs 8
24. Plymouth 6

We're in deep deep s***e..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on October 18, 2017, 00:07:46 am
Interestingly the bottom eight have stayed the same for a few weeks now, only moving position amongst themselves.

17. Doncaster 15
18. Wimbledon 15
19. Oldham 14 (game in hand)
20. Rochdale 13
-------------------
21. Bury 12 (game in hand)
22. Gillingham 11
23. Cobblers 9
24. Plymouth 7


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on October 18, 2017, 09:31:20 am
Still effectively 5 points off safety and it's such a shame we couldn't get those extra points last night.

I think it's usually around the 51 point mark for safety so another 42 points from 32 games needed. I think the amount of points we pick up between now and 1st January will determine our season. Anything less than 10/11 points might leave us with a bit too much to do in the second half of the season


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on October 18, 2017, 09:36:15 am
Anything less than 10/11 points might leave us with a bit too much to do in the second half of the season

We'll beat that in the next 4 games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 18, 2017, 18:49:22 pm
The Gilly game is a real 6 pointer


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on October 18, 2017, 18:55:08 pm
The Gilly game is a real 6 pointer

No such thing.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on October 19, 2017, 09:25:50 am
No such thing.
When voting in the EU referendum I was remain my wife wanted a Brexit  so we decided neither would vote as we cancelled each other out, obviously on the night I voted  as it was now worth double.
It wasn't as she had the same idea.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 21, 2017, 21:08:55 pm
Update after the Gilly game

21. Bury 12
22. Cobbs 12
23 Gilly 11
24. Plymouth 10

Very tight hopefully we'll get another 3pts against Blackpool next week..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on October 21, 2017, 21:11:11 pm
Quote from: DL2 on January 27, 2012, 15:01:59 pm
For goodness sake Doc we are NOT going down  Grin   you heard it here 1st  Wink

(I damn well hope that does not come back to haunt me)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on October 24, 2017, 10:53:00 am
Oldham vs Bury tonight as they both complete their game in hand on us... no idea what our preferred result would be in this one to be honest.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on October 24, 2017, 12:05:10 pm
Bury win because Oldham are getting better? Bury need to keep Clark to go down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: claretparrot on October 24, 2017, 12:23:05 pm
Bury win because Oldham are getting better? Bury need to keep Clark to go down.

By the same logic, Oldham win. If they're going to pull away anyway they may as well take points off Bury for us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 24, 2017, 22:32:44 pm
Oldham win 2-1 so its as you were..

21. Bury 12
22. Cobbs 12
23 Gilly 11
24. Plymouth 10


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 28, 2017, 19:00:42 pm
Update after the Pool game..

21. Cobbs 15
22. Gilly 14
23 Bury 12
24. Plymouth 11

Our GD is pretty bad but our form is good.  Portsmouth, MK Dongs and the Wombles all slipping down towards the Party zone..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: roz on October 28, 2017, 20:29:03 pm
Would be useful to see 18th position too so we know how far behind we are still


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: wrigleys on October 28, 2017, 22:56:37 pm
Would be useful to see 18th position too so we know how far behind we are still

Yes, this is the only website I visit as well, so a full league table, a summary of the days news and perhaps a recipe suggestion for tonightís dinner would be useful.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on October 29, 2017, 11:28:32 am
...............and perhaps a recipe suggestion for tonightís dinner would be useful.

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 30, 2017, 15:57:50 pm
Especially for the Rozmeister

15. Walsall 19
16. MK Dongs 19
17. Donny 18
18. Oldham 18
19. Rochdale 17
20. Wombles 15
21. Cobbs 15
22. Gilly 14
23 Bury 12
24. Plymouth 11


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on October 31, 2017, 09:28:47 am
Shame Bury have parted with Lee Clark, could have done with him staying


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: memyhead on October 31, 2017, 09:53:27 am
Shame Bury have parted with Lee Clark, could have done with him staying

Agreed, let's hope JED goes for it!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: roz on October 31, 2017, 23:38:24 pm
Thank you Doc


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on November 11, 2017, 19:30:32 pm
Great news we're out of the Zone. Dale and the Wombles have played a game less but we're heading in the right direction.

15. Rovers 21
16. Donny 19
17. Walsall 19
18. Oldham 18
19. Cobbs 18
20. Dale 17
21. Gilly 15
22. Wombles 15
23. Plymouth 14
24. Bury 13


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on November 13, 2017, 00:43:56 am
Wimbledon played their game in hand today, a 2-2 draw vs Boro.

We remain ahead of them in the table.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on November 13, 2017, 07:46:05 am
5 or 6 wins between now and the christmas period would see it necessary to change this thread title to playoff watch, totally inconceivable just a few weeks back.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on November 13, 2017, 08:27:22 am
5 or 6 wins between now and the christmas period would see it necessary to change this thread title to playoff watch, totally inconceivable just a few weeks back.



Careful - but in fairness we really do not look like a relegation side much more organized with a reasonable game plan - that illusive 20 plus goals a season striker is actually the main thin missing.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on November 14, 2017, 18:56:05 pm
Can this thread be merged with the Re-development one...neither are going to happen!   8)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on November 18, 2017, 20:32:48 pm
Looks like we need to resurrect this after today's abortion:


15. Oldham 21* Played 1 game less
16. Rovers 21
17. Donnyl 20
18. Walsall 19 * Played 1 game less
19. Wombles 19
20. Gilly 18
21. Cobbs 18
22. Dale 17* Played 1 game less
23. Plymouth 14
24. Bury 13







Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Ralap on November 22, 2017, 10:03:10 am
Looking on the bright side Iíve not seen the Cobblers play at Forest green Rovers yet.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on November 22, 2017, 19:46:47 pm
Looking on the bright side Iíve not seen the Cobblers play at Forest green Rovers yet.
We went there in the cup a few years back. John Johnson scored a belter. And theres a great supporters bar. And it rained. Thats about it, really.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on November 27, 2017, 22:25:13 pm
Back to Back pathetic games see us in deep deep doo doo..

15. MK Dongs 24
16. Donny 23
17. Oldham 23*
18. Rovers 21*
19. Dale 20*
20. Wombles
21. Gilly 20
22. Cobbs 19
23. Bury 17
24. Plymouth 17


* played 1 game less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on November 27, 2017, 22:34:22 pm
We went there in the cup a few years back. John Johnson scored a belter. And theres a great supporters bar. And it rained. Thats about it, really.
Stroud and Nailsworth great too. Brilliant day out. Been to the other side of the hill to watch Shortwood FC in the FAC. Uncanny really that somewhere as small as Nailsworth has two clubs!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on December 02, 2017, 15:49:37 pm
Half times in League One; Oldham losing, Bristol Rovers drawing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on December 04, 2017, 17:08:31 pm
We're going down


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shoemaker on December 10, 2017, 06:18:05 am
We will stay up no problem under our new Chinese owners with their cash on the hip and boundless enthusiasm for the club.
Itís good to hear them giving upbeat updates to raise the morale of the fans.
Bring on the transfer window and show our intent......

Oh hang on


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Buster on December 10, 2017, 08:30:22 am
FootballWebPages predict that we won't win another game this season!!!!
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/league-table/predicted


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on December 10, 2017, 08:57:40 am
FootballWebPages predict that we won't win another game this season!!!!
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/league-table/predicted

Ouch.

I think we will though, we seem to manage the odd good performance every ten games or so.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on December 10, 2017, 09:25:14 am
Ouch.

I think we will though, we seem to manage the odd good performance every ten games or so.

The problem is that we need that to happen in 11 of our remaining 25 games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on December 10, 2017, 09:26:47 am
FootballWebPages predict that we won't win another game this season!!!!
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/league-table/predicted

I wonder if the use 78's formula to work that out.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bwills on December 10, 2017, 09:27:24 am
And score six goals 🤦‍♂️


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on December 10, 2017, 09:50:27 am
Nice to know in advance we are not going to get properly hammered again before the start of next season.
And we're gonna score away at Blackpool and Bristol.

Take the positives.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 11, 2017, 16:15:08 pm
Just keeps getting worse and worse. I blame Baldy he said he had a good feeling.

15. Rovers 27
16. Oldham 26
17. MK Dongs 25
18. Donny 23
19. Dale 20 *
20. Wombles 20*
21. Gilly 20
22. Plymouth 20
23. Cobbs 19
24. Bury 17*


* Played 1 game less



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on December 11, 2017, 22:14:03 pm
We need to stay within one win from safety before January, which remarkably despite our poor form, we still are (ignoring games in hand). However the four remaining games of this year I can only see us getting a maximum 3 or 4 points and that's me being optimistic. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on December 16, 2017, 17:08:51 pm
FootballWebPages predict that we won't win another game this season!!!!
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/league-table/predicted

Maybe delete that website from your bookmarks?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on December 16, 2017, 17:35:47 pm
A decent win which pulls us out of the relegation zone.

It's still fairly tight down there, with only 6 points separating 23rd from 17th.

We will need to tighten up defensively ready for a challenging round of games which includes Blackburn (twice in 30 days), Wigan and Bradford. The Doncaster game is a potential relegation 6 pointer.

If JFH gets the recruitment right then we should be much more multidimensional and competitive by January.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on December 18, 2017, 10:29:01 am
It looks like 6 poor teams at the bottom maybe 7 if you include Doncaster. We'll need to take points off these in the second half of the season to give us a chance.

I don't think any above that will drop although I note Fleetwood, MK Dons and Blackpool are on a poor run of form with the inconsistent Bristol Rovers. A lot can be said for points on the board as we found out last year so i think these teams will be OK.

A win against Doncaster is probably our best option for picking up points before the window reopens. Anything from Blackburn, Wigan and Portsmouth would be a bonus.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 18, 2017, 10:33:31 am
The window wonít be our saving grace .
Every club in the division is thinking the same thing .
Current players need to play better .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 18, 2017, 15:57:30 pm
Nice little boost Saturday but still in deep doo doo

15. Fleetwood 27
16. Rovers 27
17. MK Dongs 26
18. Donny 24
19. Gilly 23
20. Cobbs 22
21. Dale 21*
22. Plymouth 21
23. Wombles 19*
24. Bury 17*


* Played 1 game less



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on December 18, 2017, 16:14:00 pm
It's an incredibly tight league. We're only 6 points behind Walsall who are 11th. A small winning run would be enough to see major progress in to mid table.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 20, 2017, 16:24:52 pm
Our GD is dire as well lets hope that doesn't come back to haunt us..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: southofthecounty on December 21, 2017, 17:01:10 pm
It's an incredibly tight league. We're only 6 points behind Walsall who are 11th. A small winning run would be enough to see major progress in to mid table.
I will believe it when it's happened. I read on here we were playoff bound after beating Oxford. We will see.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on December 26, 2017, 17:33:48 pm
The 52 points look a long way off at this time, any recruitment should be soley to dig us out the hole we're in, get some tough tackling midfielder , a winger who can cross the ball and is defensively sound, a big ugly hard working striker who can hold it up, lay off the ball well and has a dozen goals in him.
There are dozens of old stagers currently over looked in the championship who will not get a contract renewal and will be looking to earn a contract elsewhere, 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on December 26, 2017, 22:26:31 pm
The 52 points look a long way off at this time, any recruitment should be soley to dig us out the hole we're in, get some tough tackling midfielder , a winger who can cross the ball and is defensively sound, a big ugly hard working striker who can hold it up, lay off the ball well and has a dozen goals in him.
There are dozens of old stagers currently over looked in the championship who will not get a contract renewal and will be looking to earn a contract elsewhere, 
52 points, not a hope in hell with JFH at the helm.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 27, 2017, 00:15:33 am
52 points, not a hope in hell with JFH at the helm.

Difficult to argue against that at the moment...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on December 27, 2017, 11:48:05 am
52 points, not a hope in hell with JFH at the helm.
looking hard for possitives here, we have 12 games against equally poor sides that are also knocking around the trap door, these games need to be treated as cup finals and the club need to rally the supporters to turn up.
It would help by dropping the ridiculous hike in match day prices and offer 3 specific crunch  games at £45.00 for 3 match block.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on December 27, 2017, 11:56:30 am
It would also help if the manager and team managed to do their jobs against teams struggling around us in the table. How many of our worst (there are lost to pick from) games have been against relegation threatened teams?



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 02, 2018, 16:52:45 pm
Hopefully the Chinese will invest Millions and we'll pull clear  :D

15. Gilly 31
16. Plymouth 31
17. Southend 31
18. Walsall 30*
19. MK Dongs 29
20. Oldham 28
21. Wombles 27*
22. Cobbs 23
23. Rochdale 22*
24. Bury 17*


* Played 1 game less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: CobblerForever on January 02, 2018, 17:53:47 pm
We have 23 points with 20 games to go and our Goal Difference is significantly worse than the majority of our relegation rivals.
In the last 5 League 1 seasons you've needed between 50 and 52 points to end up 20th (the place above relegation).
To achieve this we need at least 27 points from 20 games. That's mid table form (8 wins, 4 draws and 8 defeats get us 28 more points).

The odds are stacked against us. Where's the Chairman ?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on January 02, 2018, 17:57:24 pm
We have 23 points with 20 games to go and our Goal Difference is significantly worse than the majority of our relegation rivals.
In the last 5 League 1 seasons you've needed between 50 and 52 points to end up 20th (the place above relegation).
To achieve this we need at least 27 points from 20 games. That's mid table form (8 wins, 4 draws and 8 defeats get us 28 more points).

The odds are stacked against us. Where's the Chairman ?
Counting the Yen he's made out of us, while he dreams about his beloved Poxford


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shoemaker on January 02, 2018, 18:38:27 pm
Whereís the chairman?
Whoís the chairman?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on January 03, 2018, 00:14:24 am
looking hard for possitives here, we have 12 games against equally poor sides that are also knocking around the trap door, these games need to be treated as cup finals and the club need to rally the supporters to turn up.
It would help by dropping the ridiculous hike in match day prices and offer 3 specific crunch  games at £45.00 for 3 match block.
That is a really good idea.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 14, 2018, 17:12:53 pm
Back to back wins see us jump up.

15. Walsall 33**
16. Blackpool 33
17. Bristol R 33*
18. Southend 31
19. MK Dongs 30*
20. Oldham 29
21. Cobbs 29
22. Wombles 28**
23. Rochdale 22**
24. Bury 17*


* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 games less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on January 14, 2018, 19:23:11 pm
Back to back wins see us jump up.

15. Walsall 33**
16. Blackpool 33
17. Bristol R 33*
18. Southend 31
19. MK Dongs 30*
20. Oldham 29
21. Cobbs 29
22. Wombles 28**
23. Rochdale 22**
24. Bury 17*


* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 games less

Unfortunately with our vastly inferior goal difference we are going to be relying on others around us getting nothing from their games in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 14, 2018, 19:30:33 pm
Unfortunately with our vastly inferior goal difference we are going to be relying on others around us getting nothing from their games in hand.
all others will be aiming for 52 points, us 53.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on January 14, 2018, 20:12:05 pm
We are now almost evens for relegation from 2/5 on Saturday morning. A win against MK Dons will certainly put us odds against which would be pleasing to see.
Incidentally we are best price 8/5 to beat MK Dons which I think is pretty reasonable.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 14, 2018, 21:54:29 pm
We are now almost evens for relegation from 2/5 on Saturday morning. A win against MK Dons will certainly put us odds against which would be pleasing to see.
Incidentally we are best price 8/5 to beat MK Dons which I think is pretty reasonable.
with just 1 point needed from our last 4 games to save ourselves when we were last in league 1,  bookies must've had us as 1 to 10 against being relegated... we managed it🤣


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2018, 21:59:02 pm
with just 1 point needed from our last 4 games to save ourselves when we were last in league 1,  bookies must've had us as 1 to 10 against being relegated... we managed it🤣

And the moral of this story is....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 14, 2018, 22:01:13 pm
And the moral of this story is....
Get more seats?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on January 14, 2018, 22:04:59 pm
Get more seats?

Or you could always trust in c78's easier games to come.  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 14, 2018, 22:15:00 pm
Or you could always trust in c78's easier games to come.  ;D

Correct, our run in is easy.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on January 14, 2018, 22:27:07 pm
with just 1 point needed from our last 4 games to save ourselves when we were last in league 1,  bookies must've had us as 1 to 10 against being relegated... we managed it🤣

The cumulative sequence of results needed to relegate us then meant it was more like 1/100,000 at least.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on January 14, 2018, 23:11:42 pm
Bury are done for. Their manager has just left after about 9 or 10 games in charge.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 15, 2018, 08:06:15 am
Southend look to be in free fall as will mk if we can beat them Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: memyhead on January 15, 2018, 09:02:16 am
Bury are done for. Their manager has just left after about 9 or 10 games in charge.

Sacked along with his assistant. Don't think they won under him or scored a goal!!! Got a point at our place though!  ::)

Their chairman adamant they can still get out of trouble #deluded


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 15, 2018, 09:26:00 am
Sacked along with his assistant. Don't think they won under him or scored a goal!!! Got a point at our place though!  ::)

Their chairman adamant they can still get out of trouble #deluded

Well it was an easy game for them.... (and for us, for that matter)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on January 15, 2018, 09:26:53 am
Southend look to be in free fall as will mk if we can beat them Saturday.

I don't know if this is remotely factual or not, but I often think it's better to be in the relegation zone (but not stranded!) than it is to be lower midtable come January. I can see both MK and Southend going down this season.

Although MK's stadium might be too big to get relegated?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 15, 2018, 09:46:34 am
I don't know if this is remotely factual or not, but I often think it's better to be in the relegation zone (but not stranded!) than it is to be lower midtable come January. I can see both MK and Southend going down this season.

Although MK's stadium might be too big to get relegated?
Dual purpose mate, overflow parking for IKEA. Canít tell me the Wimbledon travellers association donít have expert business acumen?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 15, 2018, 10:32:42 am
I don't know if this is remotely factual or not, but I often think it's better to be in the relegation zone (but not stranded!) than it is to be lower midtable come January. I can see both MK and Southend going down this season.

Although MK's stadium might be too big to get relegated?
Just as ours is  stopping us progressing in league 1😉
Oh for a happy medium.
Where as 12000 would be absolutely ideal for us and our levels of ambition, it may not be enough for mk?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on January 15, 2018, 11:29:09 am
Bury are down.

Rochdale, despite their games in hand, are going to struggle.

A win against MK Dons puts us right in amongst the lower mid-table cluster and would be some turnaround from where we were after the Wigan game.

With three more signings (Left back, left winger and striker) we should have enough to survive.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on January 15, 2018, 11:33:33 am
We're going to be this years Barnsley and will win promotion via the playoffs, pushing Peterborough in to 7th place on the final game of the season and we'll all look back at the last few months and laugh


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 15, 2018, 11:59:54 am
The cumulative sequence of results needed to relegate us then meant it was more like 1/100,000 at least.

I remember prior to the MK game (penultimate fixture) that season, we were 10/1 to be relegated. We lost the last 2, every other team gained results and the rest is history!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on January 15, 2018, 12:19:54 pm
A similar situation with Northants cricket in the T20 last year. They needed about 8 results to go against them over the course of the last week of the group stages and one by one they all came in and Northants didn't qualify for the quarter finals.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on January 15, 2018, 12:21:01 pm
I remember prior to the MK game (penultimate fixture) that season, we were 10/1 to be relegated. We lost the last 2, every other team gained results and the rest is history!

Apologies, I misread the earlier post and assumed South Beds was talking about last season when mathematically we could go down for a few of the last games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on January 15, 2018, 12:21:15 pm
I don't know if this is remotely factual or not, but I often think it's better to be in the relegation zone (but not stranded!) than it is to be lower midtable come January. I can see both MK and Southend going down this season.

Although MK's stadium might be too big to get relegated?

Actually agree with this, a few sides in freefall where as we seen to be slowly but surely halting ours and bouncing upwards.

Southend are in real trouble as they still have Brown in charge and he seems to have lost it totally. Pleasing to see MK down there.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2018, 13:28:31 pm
To reach 51 points and pretty much nail down safety we need 22 more points from 18 games. Not exactly promotion form.

7 wins and 3 draws should see us home.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on January 15, 2018, 13:39:12 pm
I remember prior to the MK game (penultimate fixture) that season, we were 10/1 to be relegated. We lost the last 2, every other team gained results and the rest is history!



Yep and the last game was at Leeds where we were truly dreadful and seemed resigned to relegation from the first minute - forgettable stuff!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on January 15, 2018, 14:00:05 pm
Actually agree with this, a few sides in freefall where as we seen to be slowly but surely halting ours and bouncing upwards.

Southend are in real trouble as they still have Brown in charge and he seems to have lost it totally. Pleasing to see MK down there.

With no realistic chance of playoffs and a false perception of safety, I think a few teams decide to save costs and consolidate. Much like us in our last relegation season!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 15, 2018, 19:14:28 pm
Yep and the last game was at Leeds where we were truly dreadful and seemed resigned to relegation from the first minute - forgettable stuff!
By this time we were relying on already in the play offs Millwall getting something from a dreadful Carlisle side, a draw there wouldve saved us but no! Millwall plays a load of kids to keep themselves fit for the playoffs and het smashed 3-0...
Just for the record, the L1 play off final that season saw Sc***horpe twat Millwall.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on January 16, 2018, 12:36:44 pm
Just for the record, the L1 play off final that season saw Sc***horpe twat Millwall.

Are you sure? Sc***horpe's ground isn't much better than ours?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 16, 2018, 20:06:04 pm
I think Bury are Dale are deffos to drop. There are at least 7-8 teams that could take the other 2 spots


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 16, 2018, 20:23:37 pm
Are you sure? Sc***horpe's ground isn't much better than ours?
our town is over twice the size of theirs but their ground is 50% bigger than ours. They have recently spent a few seasons in the championship. We strugle to survive in league 1.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on January 17, 2018, 00:06:41 am
our town is over twice the size of theirs but their ground is 50% bigger than ours. They have recently spent a few seasons in the championship. We strugle to survive in league 1.
People keep telling you that you defeat your own argument by making up "facts" and its so, so true !!!!
Sixfields capacity 7750, Glanfield Park capacity 9088 which makes it 17%, NOT 50% bigger than ours and if you think that Glanford Park, with supporting pillars and no leg room is better than Sixfields then you are deluded.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on January 17, 2018, 00:57:05 am
People keep telling you that you defeat your own argument by making up "facts" and its so, so true !!!!
Sixfields capacity 7750, Glanfield Park capacity 9088 which makes it 17%, NOT 50% bigger than ours and if you think that Glanford Park, with supporting pillars and no leg room is better than Sixfields then you are deluded.

That's why they plan for a new one...

http://www.sc***horpetelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sc***horpe-uniteds-new-stadium-built-111113


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on January 17, 2018, 01:17:02 am
That's why they plan for a new one...

http://www.sc***horpetelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sc***horpe-uniteds-new-stadium-built-111113

Original cost estimates 17/18 million. Now risen to 25 million. Hotel and other sundries to provide income year round. 4.9 million invested by the club, but not a sod of turf turned yet. Buckinghams awarded 18 million contract to build the stadium. Oops forgot to ensure the landowner was willing to sell. Looking for new site, access etc. Found new site need new planning permission. So basically still pie in the sky.
Does this sound familiar?
When it's built and at least 75% full average over a season and the sundries are paying for a championship team on the pitch and the backroom staff to match amd servicing the financing of the build costs, then come and use it as an example of a way forward.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on January 17, 2018, 01:54:56 am

When it's built and at least 75% full average over a season and the sundries are paying for a championship team on the pitch and the backroom staff to match amd servicing the financing of the build costs, then come and use it as an example of a way forward.

Don't shoot the messenger, send an e-mail to Scunthorpes directors and tell them how stupid they are. Isn't that the advice dished out on here constantly? While you're at it you could also drop a line to KT as not to worry over land issues as it's all a waste of time. There are many here seem to be financial professionals down crying development as a waste of money, yet it appears all those with money and experience want to develop and expand as much as they can?

Wimbledon, Sc***horpe, Brentford and now Chelsea, must be all brainless...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on January 17, 2018, 09:01:57 am
Don't shoot the messenger, send an e-mail to Scunthorpes directors and tell them how stupid they are. Isn't that the advice dished out on here constantly? While you're at it you could also drop a line to KT as not to worry over land issues as it's all a waste of time. There are many here seem to be financial professionals down crying development as a waste of money, yet it appears all those with money and experience want to develop and expand as much as they can?

Wimbledon, Sc***horpe, Brentford and now Chelsea, must be all brainless...
The only brainless ones are the ones that keep saying we don't need a bigger stadium because we don't sell out the one we've got.... Priceless.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on January 17, 2018, 10:42:42 am
I don't think there are too many saying we don't need a bigger stadium, but there are people who keep altering facts to support their argument. Beds saying that Sc*nthorpe's ground is "Over 50% bigger" than Sixfields, when in fact it's 17% bigger is just shooting yourself in the foot. There are lots of grounds that you can hold up as better than Sixfields, but there are also lots that are not as good, all this "Conference standard" stuff, to any one who has been to many grounds, just doesn't ring true.
   Also people who talk about Luton, Sc***horpe, Wimbledon new grounds, come back when the grounds are open and not just drawings, I've still got my "Cobblers to Brackmills" sticker !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on January 17, 2018, 10:48:32 am
Don't shoot the messenger, send an e-mail to Scunthorpes directors and tell them how stupid they are. Isn't that the advice dished out on here constantly? While you're at it you could also drop a line to KT as not to worry over land issues as it's all a waste of time. There are many here seem to be financial professionals down crying development as a waste of money, yet it appears all those with money and experience want to develop and expand as much as they can?

Wimbledon, Sc***horpe, Brentford and now Chelsea, must be all brainless...

I am not saying we don't need developement on and off the pitch and at no point have I said they are brainless, but that sort of scenario would bankrupt us without a sugar daddy to bank roll it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 17, 2018, 11:06:35 am
I am not saying we don't need developement on and off the pitch and at no point have I said they are brainless, but that sort of scenario would bankrupt us without a sugar daddy to bank roll it.
So what about small sustainable developments to the areas we lack done in stages? Making us Self sufficient and not having to be totally  reliant  on those only interested in land deals above  those of our clubs immediate requirements?
This could be started tomorrow but ntfc long term is not on the agenda but long term they will stay.
Cardoza took 10 years to make a move and the new regime is nearly 2 and half years deep, and nothing of substance to date.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on January 17, 2018, 11:47:05 am
People keep telling you that you defeat your own argument by making up "facts" and its so, so true !!!!
Sixfields capacity 7750, Glanfield Park capacity 9088 which makes it 17%, NOT 50% bigger than ours and if you think that Glanford Park, with supporting pillars and no leg room is better than Sixfields then you are deluded.

Not to be too nitpicky but didn't we get 7798 against Man Utd. Making the 17% even lower  ;)

Not that it matters to Beds he has it all worked out on a post, he doesn't need facts.

I'm surprised Sc***horpe don't fill their ground as they have the capacity so I don't know why it's not used. Their average attendances over the last 3 years have been, 3670, 3907, 4536. Whilst ours have been 4599, 5279, 5965. Guess Sc***hopre's atmospheric ground doesn't appeal to the locals.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 17, 2018, 11:50:48 am
Really fascinated to understand what the stadium has to do with a thread tracking the developing relegation picture in L1?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on January 17, 2018, 12:10:14 pm
Really fascinated to understand what the stadium has to do with a thread tracking the developing relegation picture in L1?
We're going to get relegated because our ground is rubbish


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Onetouch on January 17, 2018, 12:13:27 pm
We're going to get relegated because our ground is rubbish
Hardly....
I dont think we will get relegated


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on January 17, 2018, 13:09:45 pm
Not to be too nitpicky but didn't we get 7798 against Man Utd. Making the 17% even lower  ;)

Not that it matters to Beds he has it all worked out on a post, he doesn't need facts.

I'm surprised Sc***horpe don't fill their ground as thrrey have the capacity so I don't know why it's not used. Their average attendances over the last 3 years have been, 3670, 3907, 4536. Whilst ours have been 4599, 5279, 5965. Guess Sc***hopre's atmospheric ground doesn't appeal to the locals.


Apologies for digressions of topic but I need to reply😂
3 clubs are situated in lincolnshire, Sc***horpe has a population of 65,000 which is less than a third of Northampton so lets put things into perspective
For Sc***horpe to achieve an average gate of 4000 we would need to over 12 to 14000 average to match it!
But I would settle for 8 or 9000 in a 12000 capacity stadium.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2018, 13:47:18 pm
Apologies for digressions of topic but I need to reply😂
3 clubs are situated in lincolnshire, Sc***horpe has a population of 65,000 which is less than a third of Northampton so lets put things into perspective
For Sc***horpe to achieve an average gate of 4000 we would need to over 12 to 14000 average to match it!
But I would settle for 8 or 9000 in a 12000 capacity stadium.

Flippin' hell that makes sense?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on January 17, 2018, 13:50:29 pm
Apologies for digressions of topic but I need to reply😂
3 clubs are situated in lincolnshire, Sc***horpe has a population of 65,000 which is less than a third of Northampton so lets put things into perspective
For Sc***horpe to achieve an average gate of 4000 we would need to over 12 to 14000 average to match it!
But I would settle for 8 or 9000 in a 12000 capacity stadium.

Whilst not a football club we have the Saints on our doorstep getting between 10 - 15K each home game.

Burnley has a population of 70k but get an average of 20K in their ground, and guess why, It's because they have had a winning team and not because they have an amazing ground.

The population of Coventry is over 300k and despite a nice ground their gates have been on a decline for years, guess why, it's because on the pitch they have been on a decline.

Besides 12 K wouldn't cut it in the Championship so I don't know why this is your magic number.
You do realise that having a big population doesn't automatically mean everyone will be interested in going to football don't you? Nothing is ever as Black and white as you paint it which is why your arguments never stack up.


I do hope we can get three points saturday although seeing as MK have a better ground than us it doesn't look likely does it.






Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 17, 2018, 15:20:46 pm
Rumours that Sarfend have sacked Brown which could improve their chances in the Relly battle.  Chris Powell to replace him?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 15:31:38 pm
Rumours that Sarfend have sacked Brown which could improve their chances in the Relly battle.  Chris Powell to replace him?

I hope not, Chris Powell is a good manager and people quite like him so he might be able to attract a few new players.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Onetouch on January 17, 2018, 15:32:30 pm
Whilst not a football club we have the Saints on our doorstep getting between 10 - 15K each home game.

Burnley has a population of 70k but get an average of 20K in their ground, and guess why, It's because they have had a winning team and not because they have an amazing ground.

The population of Coventry is over 300k and despite a nice ground their gates have been on a decline for years, guess why, it's because on the pitch they have been on a decline.

Besides 12 K wouldn't cut it in the Championship so I don't know why this is your magic number.
You do realise that having a big population doesn't automatically mean everyone will be interested in going to football don't you? Nothing is ever as Black and white as you paint it which is why your arguments never stack up.


I do hope we can get three points saturday although seeing as MK have a better ground than us it doesn't look likely does it.






Unfortunately Northampton is a rugby town, even when the saints got relegated they were still getting 10K crowds.
I agree tho, that when we become more sucessful it will bring in bigger crowds


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on January 17, 2018, 15:33:18 pm
Rumours that Sarfend have sacked Brown which could improve their chances in the Relly battle.  Chris Powell to replace him?

I hear there's a manager going well up the road from them at Leyton Orient. Might be the guy to save their season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 15:38:32 pm
I hear there's a manager going well up the road from them at Leyton Orient. Might be the guy to save their season.

Shame Barnet have taken in Westley. He would have done.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on January 17, 2018, 16:23:34 pm
Unfortunately Northampton is a rugby town, even when the saints got relegated they were still getting 10K crowds.
The Saints have a vast catchment area, they get lots of support from East Anglia and they have an academy in Bury St Edmunds !!
But the still only took 19000 to a European Cup Final when we have took 43000, 32000 and 23000 to lower league play off finals, Rugby town  ???


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2018, 16:29:04 pm
The Saints have a vast catchment area, they get lots of support from East Anglia and they have an academy in Bury St Edmunds !!
But the still only took 19000 to a European Cup Final when we have took 43000, 32000 and 23000 to lower league play off finals, Rugby town  ???

I like these guys who supply facts in support of their argument  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Onetouch on January 17, 2018, 17:11:32 pm
I like these guys who supply facts in support of their argument  ;)

It is a fact that the still got 10k plus crowds when they got relegated, still getting them now even tho they are playing badly.
Not disagreeing that Cobblers took lots of fans to the play off finals, but where are they week in week out.........


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Rach on January 17, 2018, 18:04:27 pm
Saints are one of the top rugby sides in the country. They play in the top league and in European competitions. At the moment we canít compete with that. The marketing that was done at the saints in the 90ís was then sport was growing is now paying dividends. They have a core support of approx 12k from a much wider catchment area. Before the redevelopment of FG though what was the average attendance? I remember saints crowds being about the same as ours as one point, they grew and more importantly jumped on the ship of the popularity of the sport (especially after winning the World Cup in 2003) had money to develop the stadium and then again marketed the club in the right way.
That being said, as previous post they barely took (compared to us) any fans coot ultimately the best cup final in Europe.
They had the money, the insight, the marketing team and the fact they own their ground
Playing in the premier league of there respective sport also helps.

If we were to go up just one level I believe we would challenge attendances! ( obviously need a ground big enough) 🙄


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on January 20, 2018, 23:17:21 pm
Out of the relegation zone!

Blackpool 33
Cobblers 32
**Wimbledon 31
*Southend 31
---------------
*MK Dons 30
Oldham 29
***Rochdale 22
*Bury 20


* indicates games in hand

Theoretically it's still possible for us to drop back down to 21st once other teams play their games in hand on us, so we need to try to keep this this momentum. Looking a lot better though!

We remain 6/5 (third favourites) to be relegated (Bet 365).


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2018, 23:54:50 pm
Out of the relegation zone!

Blackpool 33
Cobblers 32
**Wimbledon 31
*Southend 31
---------------
*MK Dons 30
Oldham 29
***Rochdale 22
*Bury 20


* indicates games in hand

Theoretically it's still possible for us to drop back down to 21st once other teams play their games in hand on us, so we need to try to keep this this momentum. Looking a lot better though!

We remain 6/5 (third favourites) to be relegated (Bet 365).

This is sky bets current stab at relegation odds!
https://m.skybet.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/event/20605643?DCMP=bet_responsivesiteredirect&expire_site_stick=1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 21, 2018, 10:07:53 am
6 more wins and a couple of draws should seal the deal.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: craigwest on January 21, 2018, 16:13:39 pm
Ben Mayhew has just updated the analysis on his Experimental 361 site and has NTFC at 50:50 for relegation.

Link is https://experimental361.com/2018/01/21/return-of-the-e-ratings-league-1-21-jan-2018/ (https://experimental361.com/2018/01/21/return-of-the-e-ratings-league-1-21-jan-2018/), scroll down to the bottom of the page.

A few more wins in coming weeks will make a huge difference!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 22, 2018, 15:58:25 pm
Dale has some tough games coming up. However Bury not so much plus they beat Poxford away so that was big result.

Southend and Blackpool are both in free-fall. There will be some more twists and turns but we're finally heading in the right direction.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 28, 2018, 20:39:38 pm
Came across this. Using the data here the most points a side has had in league one after 30 games and been relegated is 27. However both the Wimbledon Travellers Association and Oldham have exceeded their targets as well. In any event if we go down with 33 points after 30 games it will be a record by a considerable margin, at least with the data supplied. https://experimental361.com/2016/01/07/league-1-in-gifs-promotion-and-relegation/


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 28, 2018, 20:45:23 pm
Sorry, should have mentioned this was as of 2016


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 28, 2018, 22:02:30 pm
I think you have misinterpreted the graph. All it shows is the teams that have finished 20th at the end of the season had between 27 and 39 pts after 30 games. A corollary of this is that no team with 40 or more pts after 30 games has been relegated. There would have been many teams with less than 40 pts at this stage of the season that would have found themselves in the bottom 4 come the end of the season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 28, 2018, 22:22:55 pm
Ignore the above I'm talking bollocks. The only sensible conclusion is the average number of points gained by teams that eventually finished 20th in league 1, after 30 games, is 33pts. This puts us right on track to achieve safety all other factors being equal.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 29, 2018, 18:59:58 pm
Points scored after 30 games in each of the last 4 seasons for the teams that were eventually relegated. Final points tally after 46 games in brackets.

2016/17
Port Vale      33  (49)
Swindon       29  (44)
Chesterfield  26  (37)
Coventry      21  (39)

2015/16
Doncaster   36  (46)
Blackpool    33  (46)
Crewe         26  (34)
Colchester   22  (40)

2014/15
Notts County  38  (50)
Leyton Orient  29  (49)
Yeovil             28  (40)
Crawley          27  (50)

2013/14
Tranmere      33   (47)
Carlisle         33   (45)
Shrewsbury   27   (42)
Stevenage     25   (42)

In each of the last 4 seasons the team that eventually finished 21st and therefore were relegated had at least 33 pts after 30 games, our current points tally. In the case of Notts County they were comfortably better on 38 points but were still relegated after taking just 12 points from the last 16 games.

We probably need 18 from 16 for safety but you never know.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 29, 2018, 20:48:33 pm

We probably need 18 from 16 for safety but you never know.
Great post, co-incidentally a lot more interesting than the bollocks I talk on here.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 30, 2018, 21:47:20 pm
Walsall lost tonight and join the party..Updated

15. Fleetwood 36*
16. Wombles 34 **
17. Southend 34*
18. Walsall 33 **
19. Blackpool 33*
20. Cobbs 33
21. Dongs 30**
22. Oldham 29
23. Rochdale 22****
24. Bury 20**


* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 games less
**** Played 4 games less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 05, 2018, 13:18:31 pm
14. Doncaster 38
15. Southend 37*
16. Walsall 36 **
17. Fleetwood 36*
18. Wombles 34 **
19. Blackpool 34*
20. Cobbs 33
---------------------
21. Oldham 32
22. Dongs 30**
23. Rochdale 25****
24. Bury 21**

Back in the mire after Saturdays results.....wins for Walsall, Southend, Oldham and of course Rochdale.

Only one midweek game affecting teams at the bottom...a 6 pointer as Bury entertain Wimbledon.

Saturday sees Wimbledon entertaining the Cobblers, Oldham travelling to Blackburn, Blackpool and Walsall meeting each other. Bury travelling to stuttering Bradford, MK hosting Pompey, plus Rochdale entertaining Fleetwood. Southend and Donny are both at home playing Wigan and Charlton respectively.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Travelaway on February 05, 2018, 14:12:25 pm
The last game of the season V Oldham will be the saviour ......Probably need to win by 10 clear goals though... ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 05, 2018, 17:23:18 pm
If the Dongs, Bury and Dale win their games in hand we're fooked..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on February 05, 2018, 17:41:36 pm
If the Dongs, Bury and Dale win their games in hand we're fooked..

Bury may have two games in hand, but theyíre still 11 points behind us. If we conspire to finish below them then itíll be a deserved relegation.

I still think weíll be OK - just. Important games to win this month, though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on February 05, 2018, 17:58:23 pm
With the players we have now we should be at the very least mid table, in terms of budget probably top 10.
There's no excuses for Jimmy any more after Saturday's debacle I'm not so sure Wimbledon game is massive.
Have they ever beaten us? Don't we always get a result against them?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 05, 2018, 18:03:23 pm

Have they ever beaten us? Don't we always get a result against them?


Yes and no. They won 1-0 earlier in the season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on February 05, 2018, 18:15:17 pm
Yes and no. They won 1-0 earlier in the season.
Yep that was their first ever win against us

AFC Wimbledon vs Northampton Town h2h

Games won:   1
Games drawn:   6
Games lost:      6


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 14, 2018, 13:15:38 pm
So, just when you get an away win and relegation fears are eased...along comes a home game to throw a spanner in the works!!

Bury have hauled themselves off the bottom of the table, at the expense of neighbours Rochdale. The Dale have 18 games to play, 11 of them at home thanks to postponements because of the state of their pitch.

16. Doncaster    P33   Pts39
17. Blackpool     P32   Pts38
18. Fleetwood    P31   Pts36
19, Oldham       P33   Pts36
20. Cobblers      P33   Pts36
-------------------------------
21. Real Dons    P32   Pts34
22. Fake Dons   P31   Pts30
23. Bury           P32   Pts26
24. Rochdale     P28   Pts25

Games for the next couple of weeks......
SAT:
WIMBLEDON v Bristol Rovers
DONCASTER v FLEETWOOD
MK DONS v Charlton
Scunny v NORTHAMPTON

SUN:
BLACKPOOL v Boro

MON:
Blackburn v BURY

TUE:
FLEETWOOD v Portsmouth

WED:
ROCHDALE v MK DONS

SAT 24th
BURY v Gillingham
FLEETWOOD v MK DONS
OLDHAM v Southend
Boro v AFC WIMBLEDON
Portsmouth v BLACKPOOL
Rotherham v DONCASTER
Wigan v ROCHDALE

TUES 27th
AFC WIMBLEDON v Blackburn






Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 14, 2018, 14:05:19 pm
Somehow we need to win 5 games and grab a couple of draws. 52/53 points will surely be enough.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 14, 2018, 17:02:02 pm
I'm usually optimistic but I fear the worse. Dale and Bury are even creeping up. We have the players but Hass just doesn't have a clue when it comes to tactics.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on February 14, 2018, 21:10:54 pm
If the Dongs, Bury and Dale win their games in hand we're fooked..

Bury and Dale won't win them all ...as for MK touch and go.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on February 15, 2018, 07:19:30 am
I canít believe we are still talking about potential relegation after the money and resources weíve had this season.
Just shows that having good players doesnít count for a lot without a good manager.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on February 15, 2018, 07:51:14 am
I canít believe we are still talking about potential relegation after the money and resources weíve had this season.
Just shows that having good players doesnít count for a lot without a good manager.

We recruited well last month getting the side more balanced in order to survive relegation and having won 4 in 7 shows we have what it takes.
Some of the decision making has been questionable  as I remember Wilder also getting slaughtered for the very same thing when trying to find the right balance.
Lets leave the axe in the wood shed and get those 5 wins and 2 draws needed and allow this group  a fresh start in August.
It worked out well for wilder.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Zen Master on February 15, 2018, 09:53:29 am
Sbeds in positive post shocker. Thank you. You've brightened my day


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on February 15, 2018, 10:10:49 am
Sbeds in positive post shocker. Thank you. You've brightened my day

Itís a decent positive message too. Hope he can keep it up?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monkey on February 15, 2018, 10:13:44 am
I think we'll just about be OK.

- Rochdale looked too good to go down but their schedule is now looking packed and that may take its toll. If they pick up a couple of injuries/suspensions along the way, it'll make it even harder.
- Bury have a huge task to get out of it and I think it is unlikely now even though they have picked up a little, it wont be enough.
- MK Dons are going to continue to struggle with an inexperienced manager and lackluster squad and will now cement their place in the drop zone
- Wimbledon and Oldham are the ones I'm looking for us to stay above as they are in a similar situation to us (albeit with weaker squads on paper)
- Fleetwood, Blackpool and Doncaster are struggling now. Wouldnt be surprised for Fleetwood to get really dragged in to it, even with their games in hand but think Doncaster and Blackpool will pick up enough points.

I predict though that the current bottom 4 will go down. Rochdale will make a good fist of it, and Wimbledon might just have enough to get out, but hopefully not at our expense.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 15, 2018, 20:26:15 pm
Fleetwood are dropping like a stone as well..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on February 15, 2018, 20:33:27 pm
We will finish mid-table, at worst!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on February 15, 2018, 22:25:24 pm
Doomed


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 15, 2018, 22:28:15 pm
Doomed
This thought crossed my mind as well. ;D
The return of Marc...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on February 15, 2018, 22:47:36 pm
Is that the return of this Ma(r)c:  ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 18, 2018, 20:40:34 pm
14. Doncaster    P34   Pts42
15. Oxford         P33   Pts41
16. Walsall        P32    Pts41
17. Blackpool     P33   Pts39
18. Real Dons    P33   Pts37
19. Cobblers      P34   Pts37
20. Fleetwood    P32   Pts36
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P32   Pts30
23. Bury           P32   Pts26
24. Rochdale     P28   Pts25

Games for the next couple of weeks......

MON:
Blackburn v BURY

TUE:
FLEETWOOD v Portsmouth

WED:
ROCHDALE v MK DONS

SAT 24th
BURY v Gillingham
FLEETWOOD v MK DONS
NORTHAMPTON v OXFORD
OLDHAM v Southend
Boro v AFC WIMBLEDON
Portsmouth v BLACKPOOL
Rotherham v DONCASTER
WALSALL v Blackburn
Wigan v ROCHDALE

TUES 27th
AFC WIMBLEDON v Blackburn


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 18, 2018, 21:11:32 pm
It's a huge match for us on Saturday - must win.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on February 18, 2018, 21:14:07 pm
It's a huge match for us on Saturday - must win.

Home banker, we always beat Poxford.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 18, 2018, 21:24:31 pm
Home banker, we always beat Poxford.

If only it was that simple - we are the cobblers after all, we're bound to make life as difficult as possible!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on February 19, 2018, 07:44:23 am
14. Doncaster    P34   Pts42
15. Oxford         P33   Pts41
16. Walsall        P32    Pts41
17. Blackpool     P33   Pts39
18. Real Dons    P33   Pts37
19. Cobblers      P34   Pts37
20. Fleetwood    P32   Pts36
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P32   Pts30
23. Bury           P32   Pts26
24. Rochdale     P28   Pts25



It's going to be a very interesting run in. Could be a good division next season if you travel away, if Rochdale run out of steam and go down with Bury, Oldham and Fleetwood. Although it would be better for the club financially if the Fakes stay up, in the interests of football I'd like to send them down with 3 of the Northern teams.

If you replace them with  Luton, Wycombe, Notts County and Swindon or Cov maybe as and outside chance it makes for a few more localish games.

Birmingham is a great day out but Sunderland might add a few miles though...



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on February 19, 2018, 08:03:00 am
Crucially for me in that table is that we've played 34 games, more than most.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 19, 2018, 08:44:26 am
The fact that we have Oxford, Walsall, Blackpool,Fleetwood, Oldham and Bury still to play means that we should have a major influence over our own destiny not be too reliant on others.  Especially as four of them are away...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on February 19, 2018, 10:07:57 am
Another mid week game thrown in for Rochdale after yesterday's cup heroics...surely they'll run out of legs eventually? MK have a couple of big ones coming up and if they don't win either I think they'll be on their way.

Still far too close for comfort, though, and I don't share the optimism about the Oxford game, especially being at home!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 19, 2018, 12:27:58 pm

MON:
Blackburn v BURY

TUE:
FLEETWOOD v Portsmouth

WED:
ROCHDALE v MK DONS


Home win, away win and a draw would be good outcomes from those 3 games  :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 19, 2018, 13:32:23 pm
Is it too early to suggest that there are a lot of teams in the mix for one relegation place??

Can't see Bury dragging themselves out of it. Rochdale, for how good they look, are surely going to suffer with playing Sat/midweek for pretty much the rest of the season.
And MK......aq very uninspiring managerial appointment and seemingly incapable of getting results at the moment.

I see all those in the bottom 4 come the end of the season...the fourth team is anyones guess though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 19, 2018, 13:59:33 pm
I am still confident that we will avoid the drop based on our current away form however we will need to sort the home stuff to make certain, starting with this Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 19, 2018, 14:13:45 pm
Answer honestly.
Are we one of the worst four teams in the division ?
Hand on heart - itís marginal and Van Veen might make the difference , but right now I think we are .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 19, 2018, 15:25:48 pm
Home win, away win and a draw would be good outcomes from those 3 games  :)
That would be ideal if we win our games. Today's game should see Blackburn win but Bury are unbeaten in 5.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on February 19, 2018, 15:53:33 pm
Answer honestly.
Are we one of the worst four teams in the division ?
Hand on heart - itís marginal and Van Veen might make the difference , but right now I think we are .

As you say it is close but based on Sat performance at Scounethorpe probably not the worse. It complicated by the fact that some teams are falling into the  'catchment' region, like Fleetwood, Oxford, and Blackpool.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 19, 2018, 15:57:22 pm
As you say it is close but based on Sat performance at Scounethorpe probably not the worse.
Who?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on February 19, 2018, 16:02:38 pm
Who?

Sorry meant worst! But second-guessing your query(always a ganbol(*misspelled) I merely based it on the reports of who was there including the excellent Chron report. Check it out!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 19, 2018, 16:32:23 pm
As you say it is close but based on Sat performance at Scounethorpe probably not the worse.

I think he may have been suggesting it was the word I have highlighted in red?  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 19, 2018, 16:41:09 pm
It was around this time last season that we hit a little bit of form, and won enough games to see us safe despite the wheels coming off results-wise at the end of the season.

Wins over Swindon, Chesterfield, Charlton, Wimbledon and Port Vale were all critical.

We need the same again this year to avoid ending up in the real game-to-game dogfight in April.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on February 19, 2018, 16:49:19 pm
I think he may have been suggesting it was the word I have highlighted in red?  ;D

Ahh, difficult that one, poor old boy its those bright lights in downtown Dallas!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 19, 2018, 16:52:54 pm
Ahh, difficult that one, poor old boy its those bright lights in downtown Dallas!
I really worry about you sometimes..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 19, 2018, 21:07:04 pm
Blackburn go 2 up against Bury. That should be done and dusted..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on February 20, 2018, 10:06:04 am
Blackburn go 2 up against Bury. That should be done and dusted..

Part one of the trilogy in the bag!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 20, 2018, 15:44:36 pm
Part 2

Fleetwood V Poopey
Shrewsbury V Gilly

Fingers crossed for a Poopey win. The other game is irrelevant.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: TownOwl on February 20, 2018, 20:52:43 pm
Fleetwood 0-1 down at home as the 2nd half gets underway.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on February 20, 2018, 21:00:49 pm
Part 2

Fleetwood V Poopey
Shrewsbury V Gilly

Fingers crossed for a Poopey win. The other game is irrelevant.



By "Poopey"..... may I just check that you are referring to another team in our competition, and not a member of this forum?????   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 20, 2018, 21:24:06 pm
1-2 Poopey with 10 mins left


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 20, 2018, 21:36:34 pm
1-2 FT

Part 2 of the Trilogy is complete



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: TownOwl on February 20, 2018, 21:53:31 pm
8th straight defeat for Fleetwood. Dropping like a stone.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 20, 2018, 21:55:58 pm
8th straight defeat for Fleetwood. Dropping like a stone.
Yup, I reckon they're doomed. They have some tough fixtures coming  up as well.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 20, 2018, 22:04:45 pm
Depends on who they appoint as manager and if they get a reaction.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on February 20, 2018, 22:33:43 pm
Yup, I reckon they're doomed. They have some tough fixtures coming  up as well.

Strangely, I agree with the "Sausage Man"......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 21, 2018, 19:49:58 pm
Whatís the preferred result tonight between MK and Rochdale ?
Iíd say a win for Rochdale


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 21, 2018, 19:54:28 pm
Whatís the preferred result tonight between MK and Rochdale ?
Iíd say a win for Rochdale

I think a draw would be best but Rochdale will win.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 21, 2018, 21:40:00 pm
0-0 FT That's a great result for us..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on February 21, 2018, 21:41:26 pm
The holy trinity of results this week is complete!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 21, 2018, 21:41:43 pm
I think a draw would be best but Rochdale will win.

Final score 0-0. I think that's a good result for us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 21, 2018, 21:44:54 pm
After the midweek games.....

14. Doncaster    P34   Pts42
15. Oxford         P33   Pts41
16. Walsall        P32    Pts41
17. Blackpool     P33   Pts39
18. Real Dons    P33   Pts37
19. Cobblers      P34   Pts37
20. Fleetwood    P33   Pts36
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P32   Pts30
23. Rochdale     P29   Pts26
24. Bury           P33   Pts26


Games for the next couple of weeks......

SAT 24th
BURY v Gillingham
FLEETWOOD v MK DONS
NORTHAMPTON v OXFORD
OLDHAM v Southend
Boro v AFC WIMBLEDON
Portsmouth v BLACKPOOL
Rotherham v DONCASTER
WALSALL v Blackburn
Wigan v ROCHDALE

TUES 27th
AFC WIMBLEDON v Blackburn
Peterborough v WALSALL


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Razor on February 21, 2018, 22:02:54 pm
After the midweek games.....

14. Doncaster    P34   Pts42
15. Oxford         P33   Pts41
16. Walsall        P32    Pts41
17. Blackpool     P33   Pts39
18. Real Dons    P33   Pts37
19. Cobblers      P34   Pts37
20. Fleetwood    P33   Pts36
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P33   Pts31
23. Rochdale     P29   Pts26
24. Bury           P33   Pts26

Fixed it. A good week results wise for us I'd say.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 21, 2018, 22:04:11 pm
A quick copy and paste, from @officiallydale, Dales Twitter feed. Words fail me..
ATTENDANCE | Tonight's attendance is 2353, with 80 MK Dons fans having made the trip. Thanks for your support #RAFC


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 21, 2018, 22:05:57 pm
Sorry, didnt see the Rochdale thread update!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 21, 2018, 22:14:31 pm
After the midweek games.....

14. Doncaster    P34   Pts42
15. Oxford         P33   Pts41
16. Walsall        P32    Pts41
17. Blackpool     P33   Pts39
18. Real Dons    P33   Pts37
19. Cobblers      P34   Pts37
20. Fleetwood    P33   Pts36
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P32   Pts30
23. Rochdale     P29   Pts26
24. Bury           P33   Pts26


Games for the next couple of weeks......

SAT 24th
BURY v Gillingham
FLEETWOOD v MK DONS
NORTHAMPTON v OXFORD
OLDHAM v Southend
Boro v AFC WIMBLEDON
Portsmouth v BLACKPOOL
Rotherham v DONCASTER
WALSALL v Blackburn
Wigan v ROCHDALE

TUES 27th
AFC WIMBLEDON v Blackburn
Peterborough v WALSALL
I'm showing the Fake Dons have played 33?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 21, 2018, 22:20:33 pm
I'm showing the Fake Dons have played 33?

Welcome to yesterday  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Zen Master on February 22, 2018, 19:38:47 pm
Looking at mk fixtures they have a tough run in with Shrewsbury, Wigan, Sc***horpe, Blackburn still to play.

Chuckle, chuckle. I would love it if (when) they get relegated and the away attendances dwindle with smaller clubs. Big ground, big overheads.

Provided we donít join them that is!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on February 23, 2018, 08:37:45 am
Home win, away win and a draw would be good outcomes from those 3 games  :)

Can you use your football results power for;

Northampton vs Oxford please  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 23, 2018, 09:45:56 am
Can you use your football results power for;

Northampton vs Oxford please  ;)

Wish I could. Long since gave up predicting NTFC results.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on February 23, 2018, 10:04:15 am
You could at least try  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: southofthecounty on February 23, 2018, 17:17:48 pm
You could at least try  ;D
I'll have a go. I think it'll be a Thai.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblergaz59 on February 24, 2018, 12:50:09 pm
Oldham v Southend OFF


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 24, 2018, 17:51:33 pm
After todays games.....

14. Doncaster    P35   Pts42
15. Oxford         P34   Pts42
16. Blackpool     P34   Pts42
17. Walsall        P33    Pts41
18. Real Dons    P34   Pts38
19. Cobblers      P35   Pts38
20. Fleetwood    P34   Pts37
-------------------------------
21, Oldham       P33   Pts36
22. Fake Dons   P34   Pts32
23. Bury           P34   Pts29
24. Rochdale     P30   Pts26



Games for the next few weeks......

TUES 27th
AFC WIMBLEDON v Blackburn
Peterborough v WALSALL

SAT 3rd
AFC WIMBLEDON v  Charlton Athletic
BLACKPOOL  v COBBLERS
DONCASTER  v  BURY
MK DONS  v  Bristol Rovers
OXFORD UNITED  v FLEETWOOD TOWN
ROCHDALE  v  Plymouth Argyle
Scun thorpe  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
Southend  v  WALSALL

TUES 6th
WALSALL  v  ROCHDALE

SAT 10th
AFC WIMBLEDON  v  OXFORD UNTIED
Blackburn Rovers  v  BLACKPOOL
Bristol Rovers  v  COBBLERS
BURY  v  Charlton Athletic
FLEETWOOD TOWN  v  Plymouth Argyle
Rotherham United  v ROCHDALE
Shrewsbury Town  v  WALSALL
Southend United  v  DONCASTER

TUES 13th
BLACKPOOL  v  Charlton Athletic
BURY  v  Peterborough
MK DONS  v  Rotherham
ROCHDALE  v  Southend United


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 24, 2018, 18:11:40 pm
March doesn't look too bad but April looks tough.

I can see this coming down to the very last game of the season V Oldham..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 24, 2018, 18:13:57 pm
This feels worryingly like our last relegation in 2008/09 all over again.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on February 24, 2018, 20:04:31 pm
This feels worryingly like our last relegation in 2008/09 all over again.

The more worrying parallel for me is that if we do go down, I can see us being stuck down there for some time.

In spite of that, Iím not too concerned about finishing below Rochdale and Bury. Increasingly less worried by MK Dons too. That final place is wide open though, with us, Oldham and Fleetwood looking most likely to fill it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on February 24, 2018, 21:24:02 pm
I actually think the opposite. If/when we go down, I think we are well equipped to bounce straight back for once.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 24, 2018, 21:28:35 pm
I actually think the opposite. If/when we go down, I think we are well equipped to bounce straight back for once.

That depends given that we have 6 loans who will all return to their parent clubs (admittedly some will be missed more than others) and I can't see the likes of crooks and Taylor to just name 2 to be content to play in league 2.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on February 24, 2018, 21:35:11 pm
I actually think the opposite. If/when we go down, I think we are well equipped to bounce straight back for once.
If we were to be relegated we would see a bucket rattling  financial meltdown, a dozen playing staff come and go, a completely new management team and possibly new owners so how you can assume we would be in a good position to bounce back is heavy speculation.
Our current infrastructure dictates it would take several years to achieve promotion again  and 12 to 24 months to be relegated again... Hope that helps.😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 24, 2018, 21:36:13 pm
Another 4 wins and a couple of draws should do it. Five wins and happy days. As we found out last season we don't need to worry about other teams just ourselves. Get to a certain amount of points and we won't be caught. There again maybe Jimmy wants to do it a point a game  ;D then we only get to 49 points, that could be a bit close for comfort.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 24, 2018, 21:39:39 pm
If we were to be relegated we would see a bucket rattling  financial meltdown, a dozen playing staff come and go, a completely new management team and possibly new owners so how you can assume we would be in a good position to bounce back is heavy speculation.
Our current infrastructure dictates it would take several years to achieve promotion again  and 12 to 24 months to be relegated again... Hope that helps.😉

No, I believe that's just what you would like to see to further your own agenda.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on February 24, 2018, 21:42:59 pm
If we were to be relegated we would see a bucket rattling  financial meltdown, a dozen playing staff come and go, a completely new management team and possibly new owners so how you can assume we would be in a good position to bounce back is heavy speculation.
Our current infrastructure dictates it would take several years to achieve promotion again  and 12 to 24 months to be relegated again... Hope that helps.😉

Mine is perhaps speculation. Yours is pie in the sky.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on February 24, 2018, 21:46:23 pm
No, I believe that's just what you would like to see to further your own agenda.


No Frank, its just whats happened every other time in the last 50 years and nothing this club has done will make it any different this time.
Our only hope to avoid this doomsday senario  is to back JFH and his team to somehow avoid relegation and go again next season...and avoid relegation again.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 24, 2018, 21:56:55 pm
No Frank, its just whats happened every other time in the last 50 years and nothing this club has done will make it any different this time.
Our only hope to avoid this doomsday senario  is to back JFH and his team to somehow avoid relegation and go again next season...and avoid relegation again.

Our only hope ????

Doomsday????

Somehow avoid?????

Come on, are you on a wind up? If so fair play because you have got me with this  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on February 24, 2018, 22:20:41 pm
He's not on a wind up, he's a bellend.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on February 25, 2018, 09:11:38 am
Our only hope ????

Doomsday????

Somehow avoid?????

Come on, are you on a wind up? If so fair play because you have got me with this  ;D
It appears you have all but given up hope of survival?
I doubt very much there will be a managerial change this late in the campaign so our only alternative is to back the man and his team to scrape the points needed.
Relegation would be a disaster and set us back years.
Also the calibre of teams in league 1 next season will see many near or capacity crowds at Sixfields.
Relegation playing our old basement dwelling  freinds like Morecambe Rochdale Bury Crawley etc, wont have the same excitement level in a half empty ground.

JFH has an experienced backroom staff and many other outside contacts and Im sure he's well aware of his recent negative team selections but fortunately we are still in with a fighting chance and  very capable personnel to call on to get this right, as Gloria gaynor once sang ..As long as we've got JFH I know that we'll survive..So relegation, walk out that door, don't turn around now as you're not wanted anymore...



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 25, 2018, 10:03:18 am
Another 4 wins and a couple of draws should do it. Five wins and happy days. As we found out last season we don't need to worry about other teams just ourselves. Get to a certain amount of points and we won't be caught. There again maybe Jimmy wants to do it a point a game  ;D then we only get to 49 points, that could be a bit close for comfort.



Can you see us winning 4 from 11 games?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Buster on February 25, 2018, 10:16:56 am
Can you see us winning 4 from 11 games?

Well I for one don't see why not...  In our last 10 matches (since 1st Jan) we've won 4, drew 3, lost 3. That's upper mid table form (9th to be precise).


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on February 25, 2018, 10:19:12 am
Can you see us winning 4 from 11 games?

No. I think it will be five.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2018, 21:10:18 pm
Probably win 3 and draw a few. Hopefully others teams around us will crash and burn. Games against Bury, Fleetwood and Oldham are huge.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on February 25, 2018, 21:31:00 pm
I'm feeling less positive after yesterday. I feel we need Van Veen fit asap. Teams around us still have at least one game in hand. It's going to the wire. Relegation would be a hammer blow, it really would.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 25, 2018, 22:01:56 pm
I'm feeling less positive after yesterday. I feel we need Van Veen fit asap. Teams around us still have at least one game in hand. It's going to the wire. Relegation would be a hammer blow, it really would.

I echo that - hoping for a positive injury bulletin on van veen but the fact that he went for a scan last week and we haven't heard how it went is a bit ominous. Also any kind of bulletin on Poole would be nice - if he's been frozen out he might as well go back to Man U.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2018, 22:24:41 pm
No. I think it will be five.
4 wins and three draws from our last 11 games and 4 wins and 4 draws from our 11 league games before that. Not sure how relevant or reliable that fact will be, but suggests this is going to be tight but weíll make it? Whilst I find Beds rhetoric about his new stadium ďThe Theatre of NonsenseĒ a bit tiresome, his assessment regarding relegation highlights a major concern for me. It is rare that relegated sides bounce straight back irrespective of finances. Indeed sometimes, for some reason it almost seems that the bigger the resource the harder it becomes? Still itís not going to come to that, so all good.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on February 27, 2018, 09:00:28 am
One hugely relevant game for us tonight, as Wimbledon play at home to Blackburn.

If they lose they will be level on points with us having played the same number of games (although their goal difference is significantly better)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 27, 2018, 09:25:28 am
One hugely relevant game for us tonight, as Wimbledon play at home to Blackburn.

Away win please!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on February 27, 2018, 14:41:44 pm
Poor goal difference

Relegation rivals with games in hand

I can't see where the remaining 12/13 points are coming from. And maybe even more are required.

Despite the influx of January signings, there are still many problems and i think it'll come down to the final game



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 27, 2018, 15:14:17 pm
I echo that - hoping for a positive injury bulletin on van veen but the fact that he went for a scan last week and we haven't heard how it went is a bit ominous. Also any kind of bulletin on Poole would be nice - if he's been frozen out he might as well go back to Man U.

Latest Chron article says Van Veen is "Very Unlikely" to be involved this weekend, still on his own recovery programme although ahead of schedule.

Also says other than Pierre and Phillips, everyone is healthy so Poole not being involved is a strange one for me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 27, 2018, 15:20:59 pm
A back five of Poole alongside Taylor and Turnbull as a three would release both Facey and Bunny to play as effective wing backs. 
The rest can line up in front of them however JFH sees fit.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Patmore on February 27, 2018, 17:06:40 pm
Yeah, because three at the back has worked really well for us this year.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on February 27, 2018, 17:11:41 pm
Yeah, because three at the back has worked really well for us this year.

What? When Barnett, Moloney and Buchanan were in the side and we had a different manager?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 27, 2018, 18:13:23 pm
What? When Barnett, Moloney and Buchanan were in the side and we had a different manager?

Stop it! You'll spoil his argument  ;)


........................................................................................

Wimbledon win tonight. Get your money on it now


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2018, 19:37:10 pm
We really need Dons 0 Blackburn 13

We jump up a place on GD


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on February 27, 2018, 20:17:13 pm
Fen dwellers not doing us any favours.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2018, 20:40:13 pm
Blackburn go 1 up


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2018, 21:05:52 pm
Pish winning now..its all part of Hass's master plan..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on February 27, 2018, 21:20:53 pm
Now that Mathis has recovered from his illness and van veen is not fit there will be no place for Poole, jimmy's obviously decided that he's the odd man out - a shame as his performances at Sc***horpe, Bradford and Blackburn were a key reason that we got good results.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2018, 21:37:40 pm
Looks like both results went our way again.

Real Dons 0-3 Blackburn FT
Pish 2-1 Walsall FT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 27, 2018, 21:46:27 pm
2,531 at the Abax  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 27, 2018, 21:51:39 pm
Updated table..


15. Poxford 42*
16. Blackpool 42 *
17. Walsall 41*
18. Wombles 38
19. Cobbs 38
20. Fleetwood 37*
21. Oldham 36**
22. Dongs 32*
23. Bury 29*
24. Dale 26*****


* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 games less
***** Played 5 games less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 27, 2018, 21:52:23 pm
All that we have to do is win ourselves .....  everyone else is helping us out


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on February 27, 2018, 21:55:09 pm
2,531 at the Abax  ;D

Was it the Beast from the east's fault? Was one of the 2531 Evans?



Yes on both it would seem.....    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43122535


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on March 03, 2018, 14:53:10 pm
A back five of Poole alongside Taylor and Turnbull as a three would release both Facey and Bunny to play as effective wing backs. 
The rest can line up in front of them however JFH sees fit.

                   ROD

  Bunney   Taylor Poole Turnbull    Facey

            Grimes         Crooks

                     O'Toole

            Van Veen        Long


I have to say this looks like an interesting line up. Unlike the hapless JED, JFH has the players to make this formation work. It remains to be seen whether he'll actually go for it though, particularly as he hasn't even put Poole on the bench in recent weeks.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 03, 2018, 15:24:54 pm
Come on Rovers, Scunny and Southend!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 03, 2018, 15:53:15 pm
Goalless in all games at half time.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 03, 2018, 16:12:04 pm
MK 0 Rovers 1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 03, 2018, 16:14:42 pm
Walsall 1 up at Southend

Make that two.....Oztumer with both.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 03, 2018, 16:38:41 pm
Oldham just gone one up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on March 03, 2018, 16:38:57 pm
Oldham 1 up!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 03, 2018, 16:41:53 pm
Walsall three up......

At least the Dons are losing.....it looks more and more like everyone playing to avoid fourth bottom.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 03, 2018, 16:42:34 pm
Oldham 2 up......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 03, 2018, 16:50:09 pm
Those losses to Dale and Gilly are massive


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 03, 2018, 17:00:37 pm
Updated table..

13. Walsall      44  (-2)
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)
15. Doncaster  42  (-1)
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2)
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)
18. Oldham 39 * (-10)
19. Wombles 38 (-12)
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)
------------------------
21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11)
22. Dongs 32  (-16)
23. Bury 29 *  (-22)
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)

* Played 1 game less
***** Played 5 games less

Goal difference in brackets.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 03, 2018, 17:09:43 pm
Updated table..

13. Walsall      44  (-2)
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)
15. Doncaster  42  (-1)
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2)
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)
18. Oldham 39 * (-10)
19. Wombles 38 (-12)
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)
------------------------
21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11)
22. Dongs 32  (-16)
23. Bury 29 *  (-22)
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)

* Played 1 game less
***** Played 5 games less

Goal difference in brackets.
thanks GPC for the update it looks like we need 4 wins and 3 draws or 5 wins due to our poor goal difference.
52 is the minimum requirement.
Away form might be crucial as we have 6 to play against lesser opponents.
Lets aĺl get on the road, they need us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 03, 2018, 17:13:35 pm

Lets aĺl get on the road, they need us.

Yes, it's time to travel in big numbers.

MK look like they are going down the rabbit hole of oblivion .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 03, 2018, 17:42:58 pm
Be interesting if Dale win their 5 games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 03, 2018, 18:23:05 pm
Be interesting if Dale win their 5 games in hand
No it wont, we'll be relegated.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 03, 2018, 18:43:14 pm
Our home form will determine if we stay up or go down - a few people on here seemed to think that grinding out a home draw last week was a good result, I think todayís results proved otherwise.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 03, 2018, 18:48:41 pm
Gotta win your ruddy home games.

All aboard the trip to Bristol Rovers next Saturday. Let's get behind them like we know we can.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 03, 2018, 18:51:21 pm
Gotta win your ruddy home games.

All aboard the trip to Bristol Rovers next Saturday. Let's get behind them like we know we can.

We owe them 6 of the best.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 03, 2018, 18:56:41 pm
Gotta win your ruddy home games.

All aboard the trip to Bristol Rovers next Saturday. Let's get behind them like we know we can.

I'm fearful that they are just the sort of team that will pick us off again (quick forwards in and behind us). Hope I'm wrong, looking forward to the short trip for me!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 03, 2018, 19:26:10 pm
Our home form will determine if we stay up or go down - a few people on here seemed to think that grinding out a home draw last week was a good result, I think todayís results proved otherwise.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If we get enough points we'll be fine no matter what other teams do. Obviously, if other teams fail it makes things that bit easier. Likewise if we lose/draw games it will take longer and get more nervous for us all. Last season 50 points would have been enough, what will be required this season?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 03, 2018, 19:31:37 pm
Gooin dayn*
*relegated.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 03, 2018, 20:09:56 pm
We're definitely going to have to dig out a Blackburn/Bradford performance out for next week - Ellis Harrison and Rory gaffney literally seem to score against us every time we meet. The issue with "settling" for a point with Oxford and losing to Rochdale and gillingham is that it has put pressure on our decent away form which will be tested to the extreme next Saturday and then we've got a red hot rotherham at home the next week which is going to be far from easy. If we'd have beaten Oxford then we possibly could have afforded a draw against Rotherham but now it's desperate times.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 03, 2018, 20:15:02 pm
What's Rovers home form like? They seem very inconsistent.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 03, 2018, 20:25:30 pm
What's Rovers home form like? They seem very inconsistent.

Half decent, they're in the top 7 of the best home form in the league - 10 wins, 1 draw and 6 defeats. There's also the Adam smith factor to consider - he'll either have a blinder or a stinker.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 03, 2018, 20:37:04 pm
Half decent, they're in the top 7 of the best home form in the league - 10 wins, 1 draw and 6 defeats. There's also the Adam smith factor to consider - he'll either have a blinder or a stinker.

I saw smithy dropped a clanger last weekend


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 03, 2018, 20:37:55 pm
Half decent, they're in the top 7 of the best home form in the league - 10 wins, 1 draw and 6 defeats. There's also the Adam smith factor to consider - he'll either have a blinder or a stinker.

Didn't play today, on the bench.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 03, 2018, 20:39:48 pm
Half decent, they're in the top 7 of the best home form in the league - 10 wins, 1 draw and 6 defeats. There's also the Adam smith factor to consider - he'll either have a blinder or a stinker.

Gonna be tough then.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 03, 2018, 20:48:16 pm
Gonna be tough then.

Where's Cobbler 78 when we need him to tell us one way or the other!  Seriously you'd like to think that their run against us must come to an end at some point - either that or we're still paying for tgat play-off turnaround all those years ago!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 03, 2018, 22:08:49 pm
The lack of goals scored this season is the biggest indicator of where we will end up.  Those teams that over the course of the season don't score many, but have a leaky defence, generally end-up relegated.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2018, 23:16:34 pm
It's quite simple, we dismiss all doomsday talk, get behind the team big time and the Manager too. From the Chron report, the players or some of them did not appreciate the booing. Whether it was justified or not it doesn't help and hardly encourages them. Somebody said on here we need to get to away games in numbers. Let the players see and hear the strength of our support. We did it at Dagenham all 3000 of us so we can do it again.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 03:20:50 am
One often drops out of around mid table in the last few weeks to get relegated? Whoís the likely candidate for that gig, Southend?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 04, 2018, 07:13:08 am
One often drops out of around mid table in the last few weeks to get relegated? Whoís the likely candidate for that gig, Southend?

Despite yesterdayís result Southend have picked up massively since Powell took over and I can see them just about being ok - itís Oxford who are prime candidates for me, no manager and on a terrible run (but we still didnít beat them). If we had beaten them they would be firmly in the mire.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 07:49:03 am
Despite yesterdayís result Southend have picked up massively since Powell took over and I can see them just about being ok - itís Oxford who are prime candidates for me, no manager and on a terrible run (but we still didnít beat them). If we had beaten them they would be firmly in the mire.
another clutched at straw blows off into the distance then?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 04, 2018, 08:08:47 am
another clutched at straw blows off into the distance then?

Who knows - anything could happen, this is football and we are the cobblers after all. What is clear however is that weíve got to sort our own form out and with 2 tough matches coming up thatís not going to be easy.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 08:41:36 am
It's quite simple, we dismiss all doomsday talk, get behind the team big time and the Manager too. From the Chron report, the players or some of them did not appreciate the booing. Whether it was justified or not it doesn't help and hardly encourages them. Somebody said on here we need to get to away games in numbers. Let the players see and hear the strength of our support. We did it at Dagenham all 3000 of us so we can do it again.

Maybe they just ought to be professional and get on with their jobs nevers!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 08:42:45 am
One often drops out of around mid table in the last few weeks to get relegated? Whoís the likely candidate for that gig, Southend?

I thought maybe walsall till yesterday too.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 04, 2018, 08:49:33 am
I thought maybe walsall till yesterday too.

As they said on the channel 5 goals show it is amazing what oztumer has done for Walsall - as near to a one-man side as there is in lower division football.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 08:55:25 am
As they said on the channel 5 goals show it is amazing what oztumer has done for Walsall - as near to a one-man side as there is in lower division football.

Totally agree his goals and bit of class above are going to keep them up


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 04, 2018, 10:25:51 am
Given most think 14 points are needed in the remaining games itís looking tough. Four of the sides we play at home are currently in the top seven going for automatic or play offs!! Home form is absolutely key in survival and judging by one point in the last three Iím not sure weíre getting out of this. Looking at the fixtures below Iím struggling to find 14 points, hope Iím wrong.
Home
Rotherham
Charlton
Shrewsbury
Plymouth
Oldham
Away
Blackpool
Bristol Rovers
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Bury
Walsall


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 04, 2018, 10:33:52 am
Given most think 14 points are needed in the remaining games itís looking tough. Four of the sides we play at home are currently in the top seven going for automatic or play offs!! Home form is absolutely key in survival and judging by one point in the last three Iím not sure weíre getting out of this. Looking at the fixtures below Iím struggling to find 14 points, hope Iím wrong.
Home
Rotherham
Charlton
Shrewsbury
Plymouth
Oldham
Away
Blackpool
Bristol Rovers
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Bury
Walsall

Christ - it looks a bit grim when you lay it out in black and white like that.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Spinney cobbler on March 04, 2018, 11:20:58 am
The lack of goals scored this season is the biggest indicator of where we will end up.  Those teams that over the course of the season don't score many, but have a leaky defence, generally end-up relegated.
Really I didn't know that.That's how football works silly me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 11:25:00 am
That's nine of the 23 other teams in the division, would we be able to get 14 points easier from nine of the other fourteen?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 04, 2018, 11:37:12 am
What worries me now is when you are above the relegation line a point can seem like a good one if it keeps you above it.
Itís quite possibly we pick up nothing in our next two games and then the pressure will well and truly be on. I donít think we have the players or management to be Ďbrave enoughí to go for the wins needed, they all seem too delicate and sensitive for a proper relegation battle.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 04, 2018, 11:37:51 am
That's nine of the 23 other teams in the division, would we be able to get 14 points easier from nine of the other fourteen?
I think you banned the person who could have have answered that one


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 04, 2018, 12:04:34 pm
Given most think 14 points are needed in the remaining games itís looking tough. Four of the sides we play at home are currently in the top seven going for automatic or play offs!! Home form is absolutely key in survival and judging by one point in the last three Iím not sure weíre getting out of this. Looking at the fixtures below Iím struggling to find 14 points, hope Iím wrong.
Home
Rotherham
Charlton
Shrewsbury
Plymouth
Oldham
Away
Blackpool
Bristol Rovers
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Bury
Walsall
Wow that looks horrible I can't find more than 10 points out of that lot and that's being very optimistic.
The terrible results against Gilly, Dale and Poxford have doomed us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 04, 2018, 12:28:58 pm
Home: Rotherham, Charlton, Shrewsbury, Plymouth, Oldham
Away: Blackpool, Bristol Rovers, Fleetwood, Peterborough, Bury, Walsall

I'd say our best chances of three points would be Oldham at home and then two from Blackpool/Fleetwood/Bury/Walsall.

Charlton's form is a bit patchy at the minute despite their league position (last five is LDDWL), so maybe a point from them. as we seem to do okay against the "harder" teams.

That's still only ten points at best, we will do well to keep ourselves up. Like others have said, really slams home how those draws/losses at home to other teams in the battle could cost us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 12:40:55 pm
I think you banned the person who could have have answered that one

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 04, 2018, 13:10:08 pm
Come on, we all know how football works. We could end up beating Rovers, Boro, Rotherham, Shrews & Charlton and losing to Bury, Walsall, Blackpool & Fleetwood. Lets take it game by game - still 11 to play. Other teams below us have to get results as well. Lots of ups and downs to come I'm sure.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on March 04, 2018, 13:18:17 pm
It's quite simple, we dismiss all doomsday talk, get behind the team big time and the Manager too. From the Chron report, the players or some of them did not appreciate the booing. Whether it was justified or not it doesn't help and hardly encourages them. Somebody said on here we need to get to away games in numbers. Let the players see and hear the strength of our support. We did it at Dagenham all 3000 of us so we can do it again.
Cobblers fans!! Please don't boo the management or the players as it may be construed as bullying and will make them cry!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: sxcobbler on March 04, 2018, 13:35:20 pm
Given most think 14 points are needed in the remaining games itís looking tough. Four of the sides we play at home are currently in the top seven going for automatic or play offs!! Home form is absolutely key in survival and judging by one point in the last three Iím not sure weíre getting out of this. Looking at the fixtures below
 Iím struggling to find 14 points, hope Iím wrong......so says  the Wise 6Fields Owl

My Initial Take is .......
Home
Rotherham  0pts
Charlton      3
Shrewsbury 1
Plymouth    0
Oldham      3      7 pts

Away
Blackpool        1
Bristol Rovers  0
Fleetwood       3
Peterborough  0
Bury              1
Walsall           1  6 its making 13 points .....Mmmm, can we improve on that ???


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 13:48:31 pm
It does look worrying especially with our home form being so poor but all we need do is out a winning run together starting at Bristol Rovers.  There is no side in this division that cannot be beaten.  Getting Van Vaan fit is going to be a key factor.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on March 04, 2018, 14:04:41 pm
As others pointed out, the good work of January was rather undone by the defeats to Rochdale and Gillingham and failing to beat Oxford.

I groaned at the Oldham result, but I donít really think I expected them to go down. Looking at the fixtures, I think Fleetwood have as tough a run in as we do, so provided that the three below us donít haul themselves out of it I still think weíll survive.

A lot of teams had games in hand on us, and although some still have one, we havenít really lost much ground in the table due to their results. If we make it to the end of this month outside the bottom four then Iíll be relatively happy. Think weíll get results at Posh, Walsall and Bury.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 14:23:03 pm
Cobblers fans!! Please don't boo the management or the players as it may be construed as bullying and will make them cry!!!

You miss the point - are you suggesting that booing helps. Some of the players did not think so. To me the type of support seen at Bradford, Skunny etc is what is needed. Be very surprised if Coolie thinks your remarks are relevant. To me, they are simply poor taste.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 14:51:34 pm
Booing does not help but against Oxford it was was on 2 counts. First, the controversial substitution at about the 70th minute and, second, at the final whistle when many in the crowd were letting our management know what they thought about the tactics of dropping deep and inviting Oxford to win the match which but for a glaring missed header would have happened. I don't thin the booing was directed at the players.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 15:15:56 pm
Booing does not help but against Oxford it was was on 2 counts. First, the controversial substitution at about the 70th minute and, second, at the final whistle when many in the crowd were letting our management know what they thought about the tactics of dropping deep and inviting Oxford to win the match which but for a glaring missed header would have happened. I don't thin the booing was directed at the players.


Have I missed something again???

Are these people not professional sportsmen???

Get a ruddy grip Nevers.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 15:37:23 pm
Booing does not help but against Oxford it was was on 2 counts. First, the controversial substitution at about the 70th minute and, second, at the final whistle when many in the crowd were letting our management know what they thought about the tactics of dropping deep and inviting Oxford to win the match which but for a glaring missed header would have happened. I don't think the booing was directed at the players.

Booing the substitution of presumably Aribiyi who after a good first half didn't do enough second half(imo). Perhaps this was due to his perceived injury. The point is he brought on Berto almost a like for like and it nearly paid off. If you think JFH tactics was to drop deeper and deeper, it wasn't. It was the teams' subconscious reaction to JJOT's and Longs poor form, Grimes habitual habit to drop deeper, Aribiyi fading from the game and one or others too who meekly followed. I can still see JFH urging his players on late second half. Whether the booing was directed at the players or not is irrelevant as they did not appreciate it. So an own goal by some 'supposed' supporters. Taylor the Captain has a part to play in this particular situation.He should have shown greater responsibility by shouting encouragement, cajoling the players it's what a captain should do. Also, I don't like being outsung by OU says a lot about our lot.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 04, 2018, 15:45:50 pm
Not how I saw it at all in the final 20 minutes. I didn't boo because I never do but I could understand the reaction.  How Hoskins stayed on the pitch rather defeated me other than he provided a degree of cover for the defence but that says it all. We were defending a point not going for the winner.  Hoskins is meant to be a forward and score goals. Sadly, a rare event and one of the reasons we are where we are.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Another Pedj on March 04, 2018, 15:47:21 pm
I cannot agree with that.
 JFH likes to play his central midfielders very deep. I think his logic is that they then have space and time to dictate the game. It allows the opposition to dominate the midfield. If we cannot get the ball we cannot play.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 17:03:56 pm
I cannot agree with that.
 JFH likes to play his central midfielders very deep. I think his logic is that they then have space and time to dictate the game. It allows the opposition to dominate the midfield. If we cannot get the ball we cannot play.

Sure, you may be right but where your theory gets a bit leaky is how do you explain the first half performance? 






Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lambretta on March 04, 2018, 17:24:03 pm
I think Hasslebank plays far too conservatively for the midfield we have. I'd like to see how we'd fair with an attacking 433. Maybe Crooks, O'Toole, Grimes and  Ariyibi, Long, Pereira.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 04, 2018, 17:30:58 pm
The previous batch of 11 games yielded 15 points as did the 11 before, so should we match these in the final 11 we would end up on 53 points which is safety.
If we have a poor start to this final run of games we could be left with a mountain to climb by the time we turn up at london rd.  8 points minimum  from next 6 games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on March 04, 2018, 17:46:58 pm
The previous batch of 11 games yielded 15 points as did the 11 before, so should we match these in the final 11 we would end up on 53 points which is safety.

This. Our survival is very much in our hands and the players are of sufficient quality to stay in this division.

The problem all season has been finding a successful formation/formula. 4-4-1-1 with JJOT behind the striker has probably been our most successful formation away from home, but it hasn't always been effective at Sixfields where teams sit back a bit more.

The lack of consensus on here, with posters suggesting everything from 433 to 3-5-2 to 4-2-3-1 gives you an idea of the dilemma that JFH has been facing.

IMO the priority when you've shipped as many goals as we have is still to avoid conceding. That doesn't mean playing defensively, but it does mean that we shouldn't be leaving ourselves too open. For this reason I would keep Pererira as a supersub, Personally, I've been persuaded by those arguing for 3-5-2 as I think we finally have the personnel to make it work.

                                                          ROD

           Facey                   Taylor      Poole (ball-playing CB) Taylor       Bunney


                                               Crooks                 Grimes
                                                         O'Toole

                                               Van Veen        Long



 








Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 18:14:32 pm
This. Our survival is very much in our hands and the players are of sufficient quality to stay in this division. -

IMO the priority, when you've shipped as many goals as we have, is still to avoid conceding. That doesn't mean playing defensively, but it does mean that we shouldn't be leaving ourselves too open. For this reason I would keep Pererira as a supersub, Personally, I've been persuaded by those arguing for 3-5-2 as I think we finally have the personnel to make it work.

                                                          ROD

           Facey                   Taylor      Poole (ball-playing CB) Taylor       Bunney


                                               Crooks                 Grimes
                                                         O'Toole

                                               Van Veen        Long


If only - whether JFH will change his tactics for that formation is another matter. Don't forget our goals against is partly due to the poor goals for.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 04, 2018, 18:38:05 pm
Don't give a **** who we are playing. Just go out up for it every game and in their faces. Get 5 wins any old way.

Football rarely works out as you'd expect, especially at the business end of the season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on March 04, 2018, 19:46:30 pm
Don't forget our goals against is partly due to the poor goals for.

We've conceded 56 goals which along with Fleetwood is the joint second most in the division (behind Oldham with 58). On the other hand, we've scored 34 which is the joint fourth-lowest (we've outscored Rochdale, Bury and MK).

Clearly then we've had a problem at both ends, but I'd say the defensive side has been the biggest concern. Gillingham in 12th have only scored 5 more than us, but their vastly superior defensive record has saved them.

I think (hope) that if we can tighten up defensively we will nick enough goals through the likes of JJOT, Long, Van Veen, Taylor (from set pieces) etc to get results.





Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Another Pedj on March 04, 2018, 20:12:31 pm
Sure, you may be right but where your theory gets a bit leaky is how do you explain the first half performance? 

It was fine until half time when Oxford put the extra man in midfield. That's all sides have to do to dominate us.







Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 21:12:26 pm


Not sure what you have done above, but as always your opinion is appreciated. Perhaps you are right JFH should have countered this with another midfielder! However, my feeling is that with at least 3 players having at best a mediocre game 2nd half was perhaps, in my opinion, the reason why we went back and back. As you might recall I mentioned that I thought that Ash Taylor might have taken a more proactive role. Good to hear from you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 04, 2018, 23:07:27 pm
13. Walsall      44  (-2)  H v Rochdale, A v Shrews, H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)  H v Donny, A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
15. Doncaster  42  (-1) A v Southend, H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2) A v AFC Dons, H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)A v Blackburn, H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
18. Oldham 39 * (-10) A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
19. Wombles 38 (-12) H v Oxford, H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)  A v Bristol R, H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
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21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11) H v Plymouth, A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dongs 32  (-16)  A v Bradford, H v Rotherham, H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Bury 29 *  (-22) H v Oldham, H v Posh, A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)  A v Walsall, A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh,               
                                      H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2018, 23:52:41 pm
13. Walsall      44  (-2)  H v Rochdale, A v Shrews, H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)  H v Donny, A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
15. Doncaster  42  (-1) A v Southend, H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2) A v AFC Dons, H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)A v Blackburn, H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
18. Oldham 39 * (-10) A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
19. Wombles 38 (-12) H v Oxford, H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)  A v Bristol R, H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
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21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11) H v Plymouth, A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dongs 32  (-16)  A v Bradford, H v Rotherham, H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Bury 29 *  (-22) H v Oldham, H v Posh, A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)  A v Walsall, A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh,               
                                      H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.


Well done GPC. Without being too cheeky would it be ok for you to put the above on Word or Excel and supply a link. Can be done in a way to ensure privacy? Printing the above might result in a miss match.'Scuse the pun!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on March 05, 2018, 08:43:31 am
I think our biggest problem this season is John Joe, when he doesn't play or has a poor game then we tend to really struggle as a team. What we need is for JFH to find another player in the squad who can take over the role of getting everyone fired up when JJ isn't playing well. If we can do that we have the team with more than enough quality to survive and even do well. I would say that Crooks would be the obvious choice and maybe an arm around Crooks by JFH telling him how important he is to the team and how he can be the man to push the team up the table and that he relies on him might work. Then again I could be completely wrong but thats how it looks to me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 05, 2018, 10:57:05 am
We are in real trouble with Oldham picking up points .
Those three games against Rochdale ,Gillingham and Oxford were crucial.
We got one point from nine and weíre nowhere near good enough in two of the games .
Defensively we look worst than ever with Bunney in the side and Turnbull average at best .
Long looks shot and JJOT , along with Grimes is way off form ( plus teams now snuff JJOT out )
We have got a lot of work to do to stay up and I donít think the manager is in control of his team as much as he should be .
Thereís got to be a big turnaround to save us in my opinion .
We have blown it at home and itís nothing to do with the fans Jimmy !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on March 05, 2018, 11:11:55 am
Oldham always seem to stay up and must be the longest serving team in this league.

AFC Wimbledon seem to have knack of picking up results and I think they might be OK. If their finishing was any good they probably would have beat us the other week.

I would be surprised if any of the bottom 3 teams were able to catch us up although our recent form has been worrying.

Our game against Fleetwood is crucial but we've never got a result there

Apart from good performances in 5 or 6 games this season we have been truly awful this season and can't have any complaints if we go down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on March 05, 2018, 11:26:10 am
If we maintain our form of the last eight games, we will finish with 54 points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 05, 2018, 11:28:21 am
Agree with most that it is unlikely the bottom three will catch us, so it will be a battle between Fleetwood/AFC/Oldham/Blackpool and ourselves.

Crucial times, if we get a win on Saturday hopefully we can go on a nice little run and be safe before we know it.

I fear it will be an end of season showdown between us and Oldham.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 05, 2018, 12:29:28 pm
If we maintain our form of the last eight games, we will finish with 54 points.

If we maintain our form of the previous 35 games (the whole season) we'll end up with 50 points.

If we maintain our form of the past 10 games (since the turn of the year) we'll end up with 55 points.

If we maintain our form of the past 31 games (since JFH has been in charge) we'll end up with 52 points.

If we maintain our form of the last game we'll end up with 49 points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 05, 2018, 12:43:03 pm
13. Walsall      44  (-2)  H v Rochdale, A v Shrews, H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)  H v Donny, A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
15. Doncaster  42  (-1) A v Southend, H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2) A v AFC Dons, H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)A v Blackburn, H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham

Having another look the fixtures here, a lot of big games for the teams above us against the others in the relegation fight, will hope for some favours.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 13:14:55 pm
We are in real trouble with Oldham picking up points .
Those three games against Rochdale ,Gillingham and Oxford were crucial.
We got one point from nine and weíre nowhere near good enough in two of the games .
Defensively we look worst than ever with Bunney in the side and Turnbull average at best .
Long looks shot and JJOT , along with Grimes is way off form ( plus teams now snuff JJOT out )
We have got a lot of work to do to stay up and I donít think the manager is in control of his team as much as he should be .
Thereís got to be a big turnaround to save us in my opinion .
We have blown it at home and itís nothing to do with the fans Jimmy !

You keep going on about Rochdale etc. Then you tell everybody the number of points gained. You then take time to criticize Bunney, Long, Turnbull, Grimes and even include JJOT after one game. Added of course to these unfortunates is of course, JFH.It is fairly easy following your general theme of despondency that you are are not a true NTFC supporter but a false one. In none of your diatribes do your offer any positive opinion or even any hope. Regarding the fans; there is a tremendous difference in attitude at away games in direct comparison with the Home games with some taking to booing.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on March 05, 2018, 13:45:54 pm
Having had a good look at everyones games, I think the bottom 3 as now will go, then I think it will come down to any one from us, Fleetwood, Oxford and Blackpool with my favourite for the drop being Fleetwood, though would love it if Poxalona went.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 05, 2018, 15:11:47 pm
You keep going on about Rochdale etc. Then you tell everybody the number of points gained. You then take time to criticize Bunney, Long, Turnbull, Grimes and even include JJOT after one game. Added of course to these unfortunates is of course, JFH.It is fairly easy following your general theme of despondency that you are not a true NTFC supporter but a false one. In none of your diatribes do your offer any positive opinion or even any hope. Regarding the fans; there is a tremendous difference in attitude at away games in direct comparison with the Home games with some taking to booing.


I know I'm rising to the bait but I can't let this go - it's truly nonsense to suggest the definition of a true fan is their level of positivity or negativity - much as absolute negativity is somewhat depressing it simply represents an opinion (right or wrong), and equally unqualified positivity is an opinion.

Neither define if the individual is a true fan - take the case of a team rock bottom dozens of points adrift of safety - I'm sure the majority of their realistic fans would have far more negative than positive things to say - it's called reality and does not make them non-real fans.

We have had a dreadful season and my observations don't suggest much of an improvement in either playing style, attitude or points tally - therefore my conclusion is that staying up is very much in the balance.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on March 05, 2018, 15:41:58 pm
The form book goes out of the window a bit now, remember some of the games we won a few years ago under Wilder at the bottom of league 2.

For me its any 4 from Doncaster down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 05, 2018, 15:46:56 pm
13. Walsall      44  (-2)  H v Rochdale, A v Shrews, H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)  H v Donny, A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
15. Doncaster  42  (-1) A v Southend, H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2) A v AFC Dons, H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)A v Blackburn, H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
18. Oldham 39 * (-10) A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
19. Wombles 38 (-12) H v Oxford, H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)  A v Bristol R, H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
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21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11) H v Plymouth, A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dongs 32  (-16)  A v Bradford, H v Rotherham, H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Bury 29 *  (-22) H v Oldham, H v Posh, A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)  A v Walsall, A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh,               
                                      H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.

Where do you find the time to do this? Nice job


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 05, 2018, 15:51:26 pm
Its going to be between us Fleetwood, The Wombles and Oldham for that last relegation spot. I think the bottom 3 are done..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 16:38:43 pm
I know I'm rising to the bait but I can't let this go - it's truly nonsense to suggest the definition of a true fan is their level of positivity or negativity - much as absolute negativity is somewhat depressing it simply represents an opinion (right or wrong), and equally unqualified positivity is an opinion.

Neither define if the individual is a true fan - take the case of a team rock bottom dozens of points adrift of safety - I'm sure the majority of their realistic fans would have far more negative than positive things to say - it's called reality and does not make them non-real fans.

We have had a dreadful season and my observations don't suggest much of an improvement in either playing style, attitude or points tally - therefore my conclusion is that staying up is very much in the balance.

There are opinions and opinions - I am sorry you take exception to my opinion! My opinion of B&S is of endless negativity which is a constant theme of his. You might consider being little more liberal in your opinion of others particularly those who happen to have a different take on things. On the hand, if the 'hat' fits ..........................


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 05, 2018, 16:42:15 pm
If we maintain our form of the previous 35 games (the whole season) we'll end up with 50 points.

If we maintain our form of the past 10 games (since the turn of the year) we'll end up with 55 points.

If we maintain our form of the past 31 games (since JFH has been in charge) we'll end up with 52 points.

If we maintain our form of the last game we'll end up with 49 points.
What is a fact is if we maintain our form of the last three home games in which we were dire ( and not that much better at Sc***horpe where they should have won ), we are going down .
And if we go down ,JFH has a lot to answer for with that budget and those players .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 16:42:54 pm
Its going to be between us Fleetwood, The Wombles and Oldham for that last relegation spot. I think the bottom 3 are done..

Judging by the Oxford Forum they seem to think they are really in trouble so I have no hesitation in including them also. More the merrier!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 05, 2018, 16:45:57 pm

There are opinions and opinions - I am sorry you take exception to my opinion! My opinion of B&S is of endless negativity which is a constant theme of his. You might be more liberal in your opinion of others which may not be in line with yours. On the other hand, if the 'hat' fits ..........................
Absolute rubbish .
I post a lot of positive comments about players on here when credit is due .
The reality is some supporters speak the truth and others wonít take any criticism of the club at all because itís their club .
Get real - this is football not a kids nursery .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 05, 2018, 16:49:29 pm
Dale and bury are gone imo and mk need a minor miracle looking at their fixtures and form.. 12 more points will be enough as long as we beat Bury and a minimum of 4 points from our games at fleetwood and blackpool..lose both and we might as well throw ourselves into the Irish sea with our league 1 status...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 18:46:01 pm
Absolute rubbish .
I post a lot of positive comments about players on here when credit is due .
The reality is some supporters speak the truth and others wonít take any criticism of the club at all because itís their club .
Get real - this is football not a kids nursery .

I think most of your posts have a common anti Cobblers theme interspaced with grudging praise when you feel obliged. Don't fudge the issue with pompous statements like I speak the truth. It's ironic that you harp on about criticism yet this is a 'commodity' you freely offer at most opportunistic moments. Actually, I support your right to voice your opinion as you should do others; imo you appear to have a problem with opinions which are diametrically opposed to yours....like 'rubbish' frequently expressed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on March 05, 2018, 19:41:18 pm
If we do go down it must be the most expensive (in wage bill terms) Cobblers team to do so. It wonít be down to the fans but two under achieving managers.
Fingers crossed we find a Wilderesque turnaround and end the season strongly. Itíll be such a shame if we do drop and could find ourselves in all sorts of trouble.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 05, 2018, 19:52:17 pm
I think Jimmy might just target staying one point and place above Fleetwood to avoid that last spot. He'll set us up not to lose against them, and we all know will happen..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 20:33:03 pm
I think Jimmy might just target staying one point and place above Fleetwood to avoid that last spot. He'll set us up not to lose against them, and we all know what might happen!

I know you can be an accurate forecaster but even so have merely inserted 'might' in this instance. Just like to be a tad more on the fence!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 05, 2018, 20:47:38 pm
This has been touched on already but I think our survival might be as simple as whether JJ stays injury/suspension free. Similarly I think the same dilemma will probably apply to most other teams and their best players.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 05, 2018, 21:04:55 pm
This has been touched on already but I think our survival might be as simple as whether JJ stays injury/suspension free. Similarly I think the same dilemma will probably apply to most other teams and their best players.

At least the postponement might work out to our benefit - it gives JJ a bit of a chance of some rest and recuperation, and the same with facey and van veen. I think your point about JJ is pertinent - just think of the kick in the balls it would be if he picked a bad injury up or got sent off.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 05, 2018, 21:18:52 pm

I know you can be an accurate forecaster but even so have merely inserted 'might' in this instance. Just like to be a tad more on the fence!
Why donít you give an opinion rather than picking holes in everyone elseís?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 21:34:32 pm
Why donít you give an opinion rather than picking holes in everyone elseís?

Sorry, don't understand your comment. Bit hasty on the keyboard again.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 05, 2018, 21:37:12 pm
MK are gone - they have appointed someone who has nice presentation & project management skills, but, who knows FA about real football.

Rochdale may just scrape through (Keith Hill is a real, real, Footballing Manager) - and, I've put my money on them surviving.  If not, then total respect for their positive footballing attitude.

Wimbledon are goners.  No football skills left in their weak team.

Bury have acquired the wrong players in the Jan window, so, they are down.  (Given the high profile signing of Hanson, you'd expect him to start.....  ?)

Last relegation spot?  Not us.....   although our goals scored & conceded over the course of the season may say otherwise.

Last relegation spot goes to Blackpool, who, despite my pre-season optimism for them being promotion challengers, have hit the wall in the last few weeks.

We may be lucky, and hit 18th come the end of the season.

Big love to all you Cobble-obblers out there in Internet world.....    xxxxx


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 05, 2018, 21:54:08 pm

We may be lucky, and hit 18th come the end of the season.


At least you are reasonably positive in a slightly worrying situation.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 05, 2018, 22:40:50 pm

Last relegation spot goes to Blackpool, who, despite my pre-season optimism for them being promotion challengers, have hit the wall in the last few weeks.


Yeah, no defeats in 5, one defeat in 8, last game was a 2-0 win at Portsmouth and they've also won 2-0 at Wigan in that spell.

If that's "hitting a wall" I suggest Jimmy needs to go out and find a similar wall somewhere!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 06, 2018, 06:53:08 am
I think most of your posts have a common anti Cobblers theme interspaced with grudging praise when you feel obliged. Don't fudge the issue with pompous statements like I speak the truth. It's ironic that you harp on about criticism yet this is a 'commodity' you freely offer at most opportunistic moments. Actually, I support your right to voice your opinion as you should do others; imo you appear to have a problem with opinions which are diametrically opposed to yours....like 'rubbish' frequently expressed.
You would do yourself a lot of favours by commenting on subject matter rather than picking personal battles constantly .
You bore me and many others to death , and I refuse to get into another of your fights here .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 06, 2018, 07:54:46 am
You would do yourself a lot of favours by commenting on subject matter rather than picking personal battles constantly .
You bore me and many others to death , and I refuse to get into another of your fights here .

Evers, he does have a point!
You are not a moderator, you are not the protector of the Cobblers faith, you are another punter with an opinion like any other.
If you disagree, disagree but do it as another punter with another view, not as someone who believes that they have the copyright on the correct answers/opinions.
You are allowed to express your opinion without constant heckling and/or sniping, allows others that opportunity. 
Think before you press the button to post.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: rebelspawn on March 06, 2018, 08:47:22 am
I think most of your posts have a common anti Cobblers theme interspaced with grudging praise when you feel obliged. Don't fudge the issue with pompous statements like I speak the truth. It's ironic that you harp on about criticism yet this is a 'commodity' you freely offer at most opportunistic moments. Actually, I support your right to voice your opinion as you should do others; imo you appear to have a problem with opinions which are diametrically opposed to yours....like 'rubbish' frequently expressed.

And you are a hypocrite.

Tied yourself up into a knot there Evers. This whole conversation started because it is you who cannot consider others opinions when they are opposed to yours and instead you start to question people's integrity/status as a fan.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 06, 2018, 08:59:22 am
You would do yourself a lot of favours by commenting on subject matter rather than picking personal battles constantly .
You bore me and many others to death , and I refuse to get into another of your fights here .

This  :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 06, 2018, 09:08:54 am
This  :)

Yep.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on March 06, 2018, 09:51:42 am
Starting to look like the bottom three are all going - MK appointing a fella who looks and appears like a contestant from The Apprentice and subsequently imploding even further is a silver lining to some of our poor performances.

It's going to the wire and the worry for me is that we're far from convincing in terms of a togetherness that you need in a relegation scrap, at least from looking on the pitch. I had a similar feeling the year we went down with a whimper in 2009.

We especially need a home performance that's full of battle hardened tackles and passion to get the home support back onside - even if it's a home draw that's coupled with a bit of fight that would be a start.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 06, 2018, 10:07:43 am
Evers, he does have a point!
You are not a moderator, you are not the protector of the Cobblers faith, you are another punter with an opinion like any other.
If you disagree, disagree but do it as another punter with another view, not as someone who believes that they have the copyright on the correct answers/opinions.
You are allowed to express your opinion without constant heckling and/or sniping, allows others that opportunity. 
Think before you press the button to post.
Excellent post


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 06, 2018, 10:11:10 am
We especially need a home performance that's full of battle hardened tackles and passion to get the home support back onside - even if it's a home draw that's coupled with a bit of fight that would be a start.

I thought we did plenty of that v Oxford, at least first half.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 06, 2018, 10:13:21 am
Evers, he does have a point!
You are not a moderator, you are not the protector of the Cobblers faith, you are another punter with an opinion like any other.

Let's agree to disagree here.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 06, 2018, 10:20:56 am
We especially need a home performance that's full of battle hardened tackles and passion to get the home support back onside - even if it's a home draw that's coupled with a bit of fight that would be a start.

The crowd love a good tackle and impressive workrate/closing down as much as skills/crosses/shots etc.

Unfortunately they have been lacking at times this season, and it's hard to get vocal about us doing not a lot (at least in the East anyway as starting chants normally falls on deaf ears).

This is where players like McWilliams and JJOT get things going, we need to see more of that effort from everyone.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 06, 2018, 11:52:38 am
The crowd love a good tackle and impressive workrate/closing down as much as skills/crosses/shots etc.

Unfortunately they have been lacking at times this season, and it's hard to get vocal about us doing not a lot (at least in the East anyway as starting chants normally falls on deaf ears).

This is where players like McWilliams and JJOT get things going, we need to see more of that effort from everyone.

This is exactly the point of getting the crowd lifted - 11 men back for corners, hoof ball and spending 60 second before someone even moves to receive from a throw in just doesn't cut it..........

Passion is rewarded by passion - halfhearted negativity & a can't be arsed performance brings you the library like atmosphere of Sixfields.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 06, 2018, 11:56:14 am
And you are a hypocrite.

Tied yourself up into a knot there Evers. This whole conversation started because it is you who cannot consider others opinions when they are opposed to yours and instead you start to question people's integrity/status as a fan.

I disagree with your comments & do appreciate opinions from others. Even the wonky ones!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 06, 2018, 12:22:18 pm
This is exactly the point of getting the crowd lifted - 11 men back for corners, hoof ball and spending 60 second before someone even moves to receive from a throw in just doesn't cut it..........
Passion is rewarded by passion - halfhearted negativity & a can't be arsed performance brings you the library like atmosphere of Sixfields.

I wouldn't mind the everyone back at corners if we chased the ball out with some pace after we'd cleared it, rather than hoof it and trundle out gently.

Agree with the rest though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 06, 2018, 13:57:14 pm
Evers, he does have a point!
You are not a moderator, you are not the protector of the Cobblers faith, you are another punter with an opinion like any other.
If you disagree, disagree but do it as another punter with another view, not as someone who believes that they have the copyright on the correct answers/opinions.
You are allowed to express your opinion without constant heckling and/or sniping, allows others that opportunity. 
Think before you press the button to post.

Point(s) taken - will have to learn to be more civilised in future. Will now only comment in line with Forum guidelines.
May the Lord help me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 15:36:46 pm
Walsall V Dale today

Walsall are clear of the relegation battle so I hope they hammer Dale.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 06, 2018, 17:51:53 pm
May the Lord help me.

Voldermort?


Dale win tonight 2-0. Get your money on it!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 06, 2018, 20:02:47 pm
Rochdale take an early lead

0-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 20:05:47 pm
Dale 1 up


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 20:06:48 pm
Bury go bottom


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 20:20:32 pm
Dale will win 3 of their games in hand I reckon. They have no FA Cup to think about..I'm getting a very bad feeling here..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 06, 2018, 20:39:13 pm
Dale will win 3 of their games in hand I reckon. They have no FA Cup to think about..I'm getting a very bad feeling here..

Worry not. Happy be. If Rochdale stay up they will deserve it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 06, 2018, 20:48:22 pm
We clearly need a Dale win!
Despite being a brilliant team (think I've said  ;D) they are highly, very highly unlikely to win all their games in hand and catch us - though of course possible.

Walsall need pegging back. Our trip to Fleetwood could be our Accrington away in that nearly went out of the league a few seasons back season...Walsall away could be our Dagenham away!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 06, 2018, 20:49:56 pm
Worry not. Happy be. If Rochdale stay up they will deserve it.
Yeah, that'll make me feel a heap better, if it's at our expense.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 06, 2018, 20:58:39 pm
Yeah, that'll make me feel a heap better, if it's at our expense.

I hope they do stay up, alongside us.

Walsall are poor and I feel they will lose more games than Rochdale on the run in. Agree with the cat.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 06, 2018, 21:17:24 pm
2-0 Rochdale


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 21:18:36 pm
#Frank has a gift


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 06, 2018, 21:20:42 pm
Walsall penalty.....

missed.


0-2


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 21:21:42 pm
I can see Dale winning several of these ..


A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.              


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 06, 2018, 21:30:49 pm
0-3 GAME OVER


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 06, 2018, 21:35:13 pm
I can see Dale winning several of these ..


A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.              



Unlikely I reckon playing sat then midweek most weeks. If they do then as others have said they will deserve to stay up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 06, 2018, 22:40:33 pm
I wonder if you could get odds now on Rochdale being division 2 champions next year ...,


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 06, 2018, 23:06:09 pm
I hope they do stay up, alongside us.

Walsall are poor and I feel they will lose more games than Rochdale on the run in. Agree with the cat.
Walsall are in thirteenth place on plus eight points to games played (even after tonight). Dale are on minus two points to games played (minus four before tonight's game.
Yet you and 'Cat' wanted a Dale win?
Whereabouts are you two expecting us to finish come May?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 06, 2018, 23:36:18 pm
Walsall are in thirteenth place on plus eight points to games played (even after tonight). Dale are on minus two points to games played (minus four before tonight's game.
Yet you and 'Cat' wanted a Dale win?
Whereabouts are you two expecting us to finish come May?


Above the bottom four.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 07, 2018, 00:27:39 am
Above the bottom four.
Let's hope there aren't too many more results like tonight for Dale then.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 07, 2018, 06:30:51 am
Thereís one thing and one thing only we need to hope for..,,,,,
We need to up our game and get some wins .
It doesnít matter what anyone else does if we donít start winning .
Jimmy needs to change his negative philosophy and get the lads playing for him .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 07, 2018, 07:26:03 am
Thereís one thing and one thing only we need to hope for..,,,,,
We need to up our game and get some wins .
It doesnít matter what anyone else does if we donít start winning .
Jimmy needs to change his negative philosophy and get the lads playing for him .
Also getting 4 points ahead of 20th asap and retain that gap.
Some strong results from our main survival rivals of recent so I dont want to be relying heavily  on others to get us over the line.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 07, 2018, 08:38:39 am
Thereís one thing and one thing only we need to hope for..,,,,,
We need to up our game and get some wins .
It doesnít matter what anyone else does if we donít start winning .
Jimmy needs to change his negative philosophy and get the lads playing for him .
+1 spot on, IMO he won't though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on March 07, 2018, 12:39:50 pm
Dover v Cobblers next year would be a new one.  ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 07, 2018, 13:44:08 pm
Bury are pretty much shot to bits.
Rochdale will most likely tire towards the end of the season, those games will catch up with them.
MK will have to produce play off form to get themselves out of it.
Fleetwood are on a terrible run and are rock bottom as far as form is concerned. They do have a new manager though and a game in hand.

Ourselves and Wimbledon are very hit and miss.

Oldham are on a great run and look set to continue that.

Id say statistically theres around a 40% chance of us going down as things stand. That could go right up or right down in the next 3 games once we've played Fleetwood. That match is the key one. We'd be far better off losing at Bristol/Rotherham home and winning that than the other way round!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 07, 2018, 15:17:59 pm
Rochdales remaining games:
Sat 10 Mar 3:00pm Rotherham United A
Tue 13 Mar 7:45pm Southend United H
Sat 17 Mar 3:00pm AFC Wimbledon H
Tue 20 Mar 7:45pm Fleetwood Town H
Sat 24 Mar 3:00pm Sc***horpe United A
Fri 30 Mar 3:00pm Shrewsbury Town H
Tue 3 Apr 7:45pm Bury A
Sat 7 Apr 3:00pm Portsmouth H
Tue 10 Apr 7:45pm Wigan Athletic H
Sat 14 Apr 3:00pm Peterborough United A
Tue 17 Apr 7:45pm Oldham Athletic H
Sat 21 Apr 3:00pm Bradford City H
Tue 24 Apr 7:45pm Plymouth Argyle H
Sat 28 Apr 3:00pm Oxford United A
Sat 5 May 5:30pm Charlton Athletic H

They'll do well to survive that lot...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 07, 2018, 15:44:43 pm
Rochdales remaining games:
Sat 10 Mar 3:00pm Rotherham United A
Tue 13 Mar 7:45pm Southend United H
Sat 17 Mar 3:00pm AFC Wimbledon H
Tue 20 Mar 7:45pm Fleetwood Town H
Sat 24 Mar 3:00pm Sc***horpe United A
Fri 30 Mar 3:00pm Shrewsbury Town H
Tue 3 Apr 7:45pm Bury A
Sat 7 Apr 3:00pm Portsmouth H
Tue 10 Apr 7:45pm Wigan Athletic H
Sat 14 Apr 3:00pm Peterborough United A
Tue 17 Apr 7:45pm Oldham Athletic H
Sat 21 Apr 3:00pm Bradford City H
Tue 24 Apr 7:45pm Plymouth Argyle H
Sat 28 Apr 3:00pm Oxford United A
Sat 5 May 5:30pm Charlton Athletic H

They'll do well to survive that lot...

The 5 games after Rotherham seem pretty awkward for them let alone those that follow.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 07, 2018, 16:08:38 pm
The 5 games after Rotherham seem pretty awkward for them let alone those that follow.
Shrews and Scunny Yes but they should be able to beat Fleetwood and the Wombles Cecil..

On the plus side they are playing teams either fighting for a Playoff/Promotion spot or relegation.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 07, 2018, 16:42:07 pm
Rochdales remaining games:
Sat 10 Mar 3:00pm Rotherham United A
Tue 13 Mar 7:45pm Southend United H
Sat 17 Mar 3:00pm AFC Wimbledon H
Tue 20 Mar 7:45pm Fleetwood Town H
Sat 24 Mar 3:00pm Sc***horpe United A
Fri 30 Mar 3:00pm Shrewsbury Town H
Tue 3 Apr 7:45pm Bury A
Sat 7 Apr 3:00pm Portsmouth H
Tue 10 Apr 7:45pm Wigan Athletic H
Sat 14 Apr 3:00pm Peterborough United A
Tue 17 Apr 7:45pm Oldham Athletic H
Sat 21 Apr 3:00pm Bradford City H
Tue 24 Apr 7:45pm Plymouth Argyle H
Sat 28 Apr 3:00pm Oxford United A
Sat 5 May 5:30pm Charlton Athletic H

They'll do well to survive that lot...

If they're aiming for the same 51 point target as us they need a 6 win, 4 draw, 6 defeat record from those games......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 07, 2018, 17:15:44 pm
Walsall are in thirteenth place on plus eight points to games played (even after tonight). Dale are on minus two points to games played (minus four before tonight's game.
Yet you and 'Cat' wanted a Dale win?
Whereabouts are you two expecting us to finish come May?

Why don't you actually think about stats before posting? They are thirteenth..,and? We have a game in hand over them, 6pts behind...and yet to play them - leaving it to a degree, in our hands.
We need to catch teams above us, irrespective of what Dale or Bury do or don't do!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on March 07, 2018, 18:37:11 pm
Why don't you actually think about stats before posting? They are thirteenth..,and? We have a game in hand over them, 6pts behind...and yet to play them - leaving it to a degree, in our hands.
We need to catch teams above us, irrespective of what Dale or Bury do or don't do!

Couldn't agree more. We need to be the masters of our own destiny.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 07, 2018, 18:39:34 pm
Updated table..

13. Walsall      44+ (-5)
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)
15. Doncaster  42  (-1)
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2)
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)
18. Oldham 39 * (-10)
19. Wombles 38 (-12)
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)
------------------------
21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11)
22. Dongs 32  (-16)
23. Dale 29 ****  (-9)
24. Bury 29 *  (-22)


* Played 1 game less
**** Played 4 games less
+ Played 1 game more

Goal difference in brackets.

This weeks important games......seems most of the strugglers have tough fixtures......any points picked up this weekend are a bonus!!

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  OXFORD UNITED
Blackburn Rovers  v  BLACKPOOL
Bradford City  v  MK DONS
Bristol Rovers  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
BURY  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
FLEETWOOD TOWN  v  Plymouth Argyle
Rotherham United  v  ROCHDALE
Shrewsbury Town  v  WALSALL
SOUTHEND UNITED  v  DONCASTER ROVERS


Next Tuesday
BLACKPOOL  v  Charlton Athletic
BURY v  Peterborough United
MK DONS  v  Rotherham United
ROCHDALE  v  SOUTHEND UNITED


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 07, 2018, 20:57:31 pm
Couldn't agree more. We need to be the masters of our own destiny.
Being masters of our own destiny is not quite the same as  'Cat' hoping Dale beat Walsall though is it?
Unless he thinks Dale are already dead buried and consigned to relegation I personally think it's a stupid wish to gift teams below us points.
I hope Jimmy will grow to become our master of everything, but until then I hope the teams around us, of which Dale I include do worse than us.
Walsall who I do not currently consider to be in and around us, can do what the fcuk they want as far as I'm concerned, until we play them at any rate.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 07, 2018, 21:57:13 pm
Being masters of our own destiny is not quite the same as  'Cat' hoping Dale beat Walsall though is it?
Unless he thinks Dale are already dead buried and consigned to relegation I personally think it's a stupid wish to gift teams below us points.
I hope Jimmy will grow to become our master of everything, but until then I hope the teams around us, of which Dale I include do worse than us.
Walsall who I do not currently consider to be in and around us, can do what the fcuk they want as far as I'm concerned, until we play them at any rate.


we have 8 points in the bank on Rochdale that they wont claw back from their 4 games in hand so when Rochdale play fleetwood we need a Rochdale win.

4 poxy wins in the next 11 games is hardly asking for too much, still needing 2 wins in the last 5 might get uncomfortable.. Anyway train booked to fleetwood, might as well enjoy the run in.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 07, 2018, 23:57:39 pm
we have 8 points in the bank on Rochdale that they wont claw back from their 4 games in hand so when Rochdale play fleetwood we need a Rochdale win.

4 poxy wins in the next 11 games is hardly asking for too much, still needing 2 wins in the last 5 might get uncomfortable.. Anyway train booked to fleetwood, might as well enjoy the run in.
4 'poxy' wins out of eleven is still a fcuking boatload better average than the ten we've got from the last 35, so who knows if it's too much too ask for?
If Fleetwood played Dale today and one team had to win, I wouldn't disagree with you.
Dale won't claw back eight points from four games? Unlikely I'd agree, except they don't need to, they have fifteen games in which to claw back eight points on us.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 07, 2018, 23:58:41 pm
Why don't you actually think about stats before posting? They are thirteenth..,and? We have a game in hand over them, 6pts behind...and yet to play them - leaving it to a degree, in our hands.
We need to catch teams above us, irrespective of what Dale or Bury do or don't do!

I politely agree with your comment! ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: exiledinspace on March 08, 2018, 06:33:42 am
Exciting isn't it?

None of us step aboard the Northampton Town FC roller coaster for an easy ride. This is the end to our season....

Gather round boys... :o :o :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwx-4PGZKU


We all know why it was a special day.  ;)





Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: meccanostand on March 09, 2018, 13:23:12 pm
Blackpool have all sorts of off the field issues and just a few points ahead of us. Be interesting to see how they do in the next 3-4 games.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 10, 2018, 14:45:38 pm
Bradford v MK - postponed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 10, 2018, 17:41:49 pm
A mixed bag of results today. Rochdale don't look dead and buried after all, Wimbledon are finding some wins. Oxford and Blackpool could be the fall guys. We need to get some points from the upcoming back-to-back home games but they are going to be very very tough. Rotherham have been flying so it will be interesting to see how they react to their shock defeat to Dale. They'll be thinking they can't lose to two relegation threatened teams and then there is Shrewsbury who have defied the critics all season. 4 points will be an excellent return. We really do need to find a win in at least one of them.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 10, 2018, 17:44:23 pm
Not so much a mixed bag, but a good day for the teams at the bottom...none of the bottom 7 lost.

Rochdale worry me!!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 10, 2018, 17:53:43 pm
Not so much a mixed bag, but a good day for the teams at the bottom...none of the bottom 7 lost.

Rochdale worry me!!



It will be difficult to sustain it playing Saturday/Tuesday for the rest of the season. At some point it will catch up on them. But if they do get out of trouble they will have deserved it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 10, 2018, 17:55:04 pm
Updated table..Big point today but Dale are creeping up..We really need to string a few Wins together..

13. Southend 45**
14. Walsall  44  
15. Doncaster  43*
16. Poxford 42 **
17. Blackpool 42 **
18. Wombles 41*
19. Oldham 40**
20. Cobbs 39*
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21. Fleetwood 38**
22. Dale 32 *****
23. Dongs 32 *  
24. Bury 30 **

* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 Games Less
***** Played 5 games less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Spinney cobbler on March 10, 2018, 19:51:09 pm
A mixed bag of results today. Rochdale don't look dead and buried after all, Wimbledon are finding some wins. Oxford and Blackpool could be the fall guys. We need to get some points from the upcoming back-to-back home games but they are going to be very very tough. Rotherham have been flying so it will be interesting to see how they react to their shock defeat to Dale. They'll be thinking they can't lose to two relegation threatened teams and then there is Shrewsbury who have defied the critics all season. 4 points will be an excellent return. We really do need to find a win in at least one of them.
Rotherham play Mk Tuesday before they play us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 10, 2018, 22:19:53 pm
Not so much a mixed bag, but a good day for the teams at the bottom...none of the bottom 7 lost.





Only because MK didn't play  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 10, 2018, 23:01:26 pm
Only because MK didn't play  ;)

I'd even fancy MK to get a point at Bradford the way the Bantams have been at home this season!!!

Bury, Dongs, Blackpool and Rochdale all at home on Tuesday.....in fact Rochdale have got three home games in a week, against Southend, AFC Wimbledon and Fleetwood. A couple of wins there would really do them a favour! The way they are going, and the way we play at home, I could see us and Dale level on points a week on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 11, 2018, 17:12:43 pm
13. Walsall      44  (-2)  H v Rochdale, A v Shrews, H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
14. Southend  44 *  (-12)  H v Donny, A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
15. Doncaster  42  (-1) A v Southend, H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 42 *  (-2) A v AFC Dons, H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-2)A v Blackburn, H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
18. Oldham 39 * (-10) A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
19. Wombles 38 (-12) H v Oxford, H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Cobbs 38  (-22)  A v Bristol R, H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
------------------------
21. Fleetwood 37 *  (-11) H v Plymouth, A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dongs 32  (-16)  A v Bradford, H v Rotherham, H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Bury 29 *  (-22) H v Oldham, H v Posh, A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon
24. Dale 26 *****  (-12)  A v Walsall, A v Rotherham, H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh,               
                                      H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.

Bumped


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 11, 2018, 20:30:40 pm
13. Southend  45 *  (-12)  A v Dale, A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
13. Walsall      44+  (-7)  H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
15. Doncaster  43  (-1) H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 43 *  (-3) H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Blackpool 42 * (-5) H v Charlton, H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
19. Wombles 41 (-11) H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
18. Oldham 40 * (-10) H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
20. Cobbs 39  (-22)  H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
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21. Fleetwood 38 *  (-11) A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dale 32 **** (-8) H v Southend, H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
23 Dongs 32 * (-16)  A v Bradford, H v Rotherham, H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
24. Bury 30 *  (-22)  H v Posh, A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon


Tidied up!!

* equals games in hand on us
+ 1 game in hand on Walsall


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 11, 2018, 20:36:12 pm
We are now third favourites to go down with the bookies.....

Latest SkyBet odds....

Bury 1/20
MK Dons 1/10
Cobblers 5/6
Fleetwood 10/11
Rochdale 6/4
Wombles 4/1
Oldham 4/1
Oxford 5/1
Walsall 7/1
Doncaster 16/1
Blackpool 16/1



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bwills on March 11, 2018, 20:37:33 pm
The one thing that's stick out in all those figures , and I know it's been said before, is the dismal goal difference we have. Only Bury have anything like ours, we're not going to reverse a ten goal swing .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 11, 2018, 20:46:34 pm
The one thing that's stick out in all those figures , and I know it's been said before, is the dismal goal difference we have. Only Bury have anything like ours, we're not going to reverse a ten goal swing .

Agreed...and thats why we are going to need a point more than the likes of Fleetwood, Rochdale, Oldham etc.

I think we're going to need 52 to be sure of staying up.....so that's 13 points from 10 games needed. Fleetwood and Rochdale must aim for 51 points, 13 points from 11 and 19 points from 14 games respectively.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bwills on March 11, 2018, 20:54:43 pm
Agreed...and thats why we are going to need a point more than the likes of Fleetwood, Rochdale, Oldham etc.

I think we're going to need 52 to be sure of staying up.....so that's 13 points from 10 games needed. Fleetwood and Rochdale must aim for 51 points, 13 points from 11 and 19 points from 14 games respectively.

Definitely agree with you, I would go as far to say , we just need to aim to win games and not worry what the others are doing. Easier said than done, I know.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 11, 2018, 21:43:43 pm
Now Jimmy has his own players whoís made an impact?

Hilda - no
Bridge - no
Gboly - yes
Turnbull - ?
Bunney- no
ROD - better than Ingram?
Big Kev - yes, so far
Facey - sort of, BM keeping him out
Matis- no
KVV - not yet

2 out of ten for me, am I wrong?



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 11, 2018, 22:14:41 pm
Now Jimmy has his own players whoís made an impact?

Hilda - no
Bridge - no
Gboly - yes
Turnbull - ?
Bunney- no
ROD - better than Ingram?
Big Kev - yes, so far
Facey - sort of, BM keeping him out
Matis- no
KVV - not yet

2 out of ten for me, am I wrong?


I think they've all had there moments except Mathis & Bridge. Van Veen is injured so hardly fair to judge. Remember Bunney's first two games when he had two assists, people were raving about him. Also, O'Donnell is as good if not better than Ingram.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 11, 2018, 22:26:26 pm
Hilda - hit and miss.
Bridge - not played
Gboly - yes
Turnbull - yes
Bunney- no
ROD - yes
Big Kev - yes, so far
Facey - yes
Matis- played only a few minutes
KVV - not yet but has been injured



Four away wins on Tuesday folks. What odds would you get on that?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on March 11, 2018, 22:34:01 pm
Hilda - hit and miss.
Bridge - not played
Gboly - yes
Turnbull - yes
Bunney- no
ROD - yes
Big Kev - yes, so far
Facey - yes
Matis- played only a few minutes
KVV - not yet but has been injured



Four away wins on Tuesday folks. What odds would you get on that?
50% from positive Frank, can that be bettered?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 12, 2018, 22:33:08 pm
Blackpool, Bury, Dongs and Dale all to win tomorrow...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 12, 2018, 22:38:45 pm
Blackpool, Bury, Dongs and Dale all to win tomorrow...

What? The toss?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 12, 2018, 22:42:25 pm
50% from positive Frank, can that be bettered?

I would say 65-70%. The only one who we can say has been undeniably poor is Bunney (although his first two games were OK). He will get better though surely?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 13, 2018, 18:52:32 pm
I would say 65-70%. The only one who we can say has been undeniably poor is Bunney (although his first two games were OK). He will get better though surely?
is it me, or have Rochdale got better since Bunney left?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 20:58:08 pm
Dongs losing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 13, 2018, 21:13:40 pm
Dongs losing

Hope it stays that way and Bury win......so Posh lose and Dongs bottom!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 21:24:05 pm
Dongs 1-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 21:28:36 pm
Dongs winning now..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 13, 2018, 21:31:04 pm
Life in the old Dongs yet??


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 13, 2018, 21:31:49 pm
Oh dear!

Those negative approach against Oxford and rochdale look more and more costly


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 21:32:49 pm
Life in the old Dongs yet??
Ask Coolcat and Cecil   ;D

4 points behind as it stands same number of games played..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 21:34:34 pm
HT

Blackpool 0- 0 Charlton
Bury 0-0 Pish
Dongs 2-1 Rovrum
Dale 0-0 Southend


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 13, 2018, 21:49:45 pm
Oh dear!

Those negative approach against Oxford and rochdale look more and more costly

Why? Because of some half time scores?? We need to get to a certain amount of points, the other results are irrelevant.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:01:40 pm
Why? Because of some half time scores?? We need to get to a certain amount of points, the other results are irrelevant.

Simply because they were fantastic opportunities misseductive where we could/should have kicked on and got 3 points rather than settle for a point at home. It was 4 points dropped and with results like rochdale winning at Rotherham (and yes it could change tonight) but mk beating them too for me it really homes in on just how important those two games were for us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:05:11 pm
The Dongs are moving up.. 3-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 13, 2018, 22:08:50 pm
Simply because they were fantastic opportunities misseductive where we could/should have kicked on and got 3 points rather than settle for a point at home. It was 4 points dropped and with results like rochdale winning at Rotherham (and yes it could change tonight) but mk beating them too for me it really homes in on just how important those two games were for us.

We could/should have been 3 up at half time against Oxford and Rochdale's recent form shows you that we played them when they were just hitting form. No game in this league is easy and i'm sounding like a manager now, but it's small margins between winning, losing and drawing.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:10:08 pm
No game in this league is easy
Where's Cobb78 when you need him..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:14:03 pm
We could/should have been 3 up at half time against Oxford and Rochdale's recent form shows you that we played them when they were just hitting form. No game in this league is easy and i'm sounding like a manager now, but it's small margins between winning, losing and drawing.


True, but sometimes when your in the asendency especially at home you need to **** and go fir the kill, we haven't just settled for a point and there is (imo) every chance it will cost us in the end.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 13, 2018, 22:23:57 pm
Rotherham back in it 3-2

Don't think results are too bad for us so far, but think it's important Rochdale don't get a winner


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 13, 2018, 22:28:10 pm
Other teams win and we donít .
We are not good enough and deserve to go down .
Itís reality and nothing looks like itís changing anytime soon .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:34:35 pm
Bury 0 1 Pish


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 13, 2018, 22:34:39 pm
Other teams win and we donít .
We are not good enough and deserve to go down .
Itís reality and nothing looks like itís changing anytime soon .


Of the four relegation candidates playing today only one is winning. What are you on about???

Peterborough with a late winner at Bury. Rochdale draw.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:35:34 pm
Dale 0 Southend 0 FT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: sxcobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:36:16 pm
Never thought I'd cheer a P*sh goal ....vital to us

Results going Ok and the Millers on a blip prior to visiting us


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 13, 2018, 22:36:27 pm
Bury 0 1 Pish

Just cheered my first ever Peterborough goal  :'(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 13, 2018, 22:38:07 pm
Other teams win and we donít .
We are not good enough and deserve to go down .
Itís reality and nothing looks like itís changing anytime soon .


Another negative post - you do enjoy it don't you?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: sxcobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:38:21 pm
Stalled Dale's fight back run.....with all those games in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 13, 2018, 22:42:46 pm
Other teams win and we donít .

No team below us have won more games than us?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 13, 2018, 22:46:35 pm
Blackpool score in stoppage time vs Charlton. Damn.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:46:54 pm
Bury 0 1 Pish FT
Dongs 3-2 Rovrum FT
Blackpool 1-0 Charlton FT

Blackpool with a last min goal..




Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 13, 2018, 22:49:25 pm
Another negative post - you do enjoy it don't you?
Itís reality pal
Tell me we are not one of the worst 4 teams in this division ?
Yep thought so


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 13, 2018, 22:50:35 pm
Mixed bag tonight. Pish and Southend doing us favours but Blackpool pull away from the bottom 4 and the Dongs move up 1 spot.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:51:44 pm
Donít really see how they are good results for us!!

Bury Iíd written off already, Dale got another point and didnít lose. 6 behind us with 3 games in hand. Dons id almost written off but they surprise with a win to close to 4 behind us. Blackpool move on up to 45 points.

The only good things for me are that Rotherham played tonight so we should be fresher, and they lost again, two defeats to bottom 3 teams....and now they face us!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 13, 2018, 22:54:04 pm
Another negative post - you do enjoy it don't you?

It's a wind-up; just ignore!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 13, 2018, 22:55:58 pm
Itís reality pal
Tell me we are not one of the worst 4 teams in this division ?
Yep thought so

You ask a question then you answer it yourself. That just about sums you up. You'll get your answer at the end of the season with the final league table. I'm sure you'll rub it in if you're correct but keep very quiet if your wrong.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 13, 2018, 22:56:23 pm
Donít really see how they are good results for us!!

Bury Iíd written off already, Dale got another point and didnít lose. 6 behind us with 3 games in hand. Dons id almost written off but they surprise with a win to close to 4 behind us. Blackpool move on up to 45 points.

The only good things for me are that Rotherham played tonight so we should be fresher, and they lost again, two defeats to bottom 3 teams....and now they face us!!

Rotherham is a MUST win on Saturday, been beaten by two teams below us in the last week. We cannot be negative at home we need 3 points


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on March 13, 2018, 23:10:50 pm
Agreed must win or I fear the worst.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on March 13, 2018, 23:11:16 pm
In the end it matters little what the other teams do, if we get to 52pts we should be safe. That's 4 wins and a draw from the last 10.
The next 2 home games will be tough but no tougher than playing fellow relegation strugglers at this time of the season. We simply must win a least one of the them, hopefully get a win and a draw to take into the crucial away game at Fleetwood.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 13, 2018, 23:35:14 pm
Agreed must win or I fear the worst.

It isn't ; even if we lose it's not all over. I suspect Sat may well be a draw. Other than that cheer up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 13, 2018, 23:36:40 pm
Terrible results for us tonight. I've a bad feeling about Satdee now. Rotherham can't lose 3 games in a week against teams in the bottom 5 surely??


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on March 13, 2018, 23:38:30 pm
Leave the doom and gloom for if we fail to win any of the next three - then I'll be worried.

Fleetwood away is a big one. 3/4 points from the two games before that would be ideal.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 13, 2018, 23:40:59 pm
You ask a question then you answer it yourself. That just about sums you up. You'll get your answer at the end of the season with the final league table. I'm sure you'll rub it in if you're correct but keep very quiet if your wrong.
So you think we are good enough do you ?
Tell me what makes you think that .
We have under performed all season and itís been nothing but a total failure .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 13, 2018, 23:43:41 pm
Donít really see how they are good results for us!!

Bury Iíd written off already, Dale got another point and didnít lose. 6 behind us with 3 games in hand. Dons id almost written off but they surprise with a win to close to 4 behind us. Blackpool move on up to 45 points.

The only good things for me are that Rotherham played tonight so we should be fresher, and they lost again, two defeats to bottom 3 teams....and now they face us!!

GPC that's a bit fanciful! So the relegation battle gets a wee bit hotter. As for Bury most of the Internet pundits incl Skybet thought that they might escape relegation. MK had to win a game sometime! The same pundits have Dale down to escape relegation! Its all in our hands!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 13, 2018, 23:49:02 pm
So you think we are good enough do you ?
Tell me what makes you think that .
We have under performed all season and itís been nothing but a total failure .

Call in Frank TP; that should be interesting!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Air-Dan on March 14, 2018, 03:16:46 am
Bury now 1/33 with Skybet to be relegated. They are down after tonight, anybody finishing below them will be too.

MK Dons still fancied at 1/6 for relegation, I think that's about right. I will be surprised if they survive.

We're then third favourites at 10/11 so less than a 50% chance we will survive according the Bookies, slightly surprised by this as we are still above the drop zone (for now)

Fleetwood 11/10 which considering their poor form I find surprising, I still think we will finish ahead of them.

Rochdale are the team to worry about, Sky Bet have them at 6/5 for relegation. Not a good result for them tonight though and a congested fixture schedule, think I'd rather be in our position with points on the board.

Then AFC Wimbledon at 10/3, Oxford 7/2, Oldham 4/1, Walsall 9/2 and Doncaster 12/1 the other realistic candidates. Oxford are the most likely of them to be sucked into it I think, terrible form for a very long time now and their managerial appointment is massive. Hopefully they "do a Milton Keynes" and pull an inexperienced youngster out of the hat for their relegation battle.

I still fancy our chances of staying up... just. But it's gonna be tight. Rochdale, MK and Fleetwood I'm fairly confident will go down with us, Rochdale and Oxford battling to avoid being the final victims. Fleetwood away is massive though, can't afford to lose that at all.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: SteveRiches on March 14, 2018, 06:57:31 am
We are still not fit enough to compete strongly for 90 minutes - we need to physically be strong for a whole game and in that respect most sides have out-muscled us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 14, 2018, 08:19:12 am
If the players are not fit that is an absolute disgrace. However, to my eye we have adopted a deliberate tactic of defending deep in the last 20 minutes of most matches to hold on to a point, e.g. Oxford, Sc***horpe, Bristol Rovers. It looks desperate when you have so many players behind the ball and it often is because at this level chances always come. The risk is that conceding late.  In the games I use as an example we got a total of 3 points out of nine. Small wonder we are in relegation trouble.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 14, 2018, 08:19:32 am
We are still not fit enough to compete strongly for 90 minutes - we need to physically be strong for a whole game and in that respect most sides have out-muscled us.

The quality is also missing imo in certain areas of the pitch we remain 2nd best too often


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 14, 2018, 09:55:42 am
Add in the totally inept managerial tactics and you have the perfect recipe for relegation, the bookies are rarely wrong!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on March 14, 2018, 09:57:30 am

We're then third favourites at 10/11 so less than a 50% chance we will survive according the Bookies, slightly surprised by this as we are still above the drop zone (for now)


If you take into account the bookie's cut and betting tax you'll be pleased to know they consider us marginally more likely to stay up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on March 14, 2018, 09:59:28 am
I still think the 4 to go down will be Bury, Franchise, Fleetwood and Oxford. Poxalona were awful when we played them and if we had scored in the 1st half we would have stuck 5 or 6 past them as players heads wouldn't have gone down 2nd half. I think we will stay up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 14, 2018, 11:14:51 am
Updated after the Tuesday night games......

13. Southend 46 (-12)  A v Blackpool, H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
14. Blackpool 45  (-4)  H v Southend, H v Cobblers, A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
15. Walsall  44 +  ( -7) H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
16. Doncaster  43 (-1)  H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
17. Poxford 42 *  (-3)  H v Posh, A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
18. Wombles 41   (-11) H v Charlton, A v Shrews, A v Dale, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
19. Oldham 40*   (-10) H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
20. Cobblers 39   (-22)  H v Rotherham, A v Blackpool, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
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21. Fleetwood 38*  (-11) A v Charlton, A v Dale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
22. Dongs 35          (-8)  A v Bradford,  H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 33 ***      (-15) H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30            (-23)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)
+ = Played a game more
* = games in hand



* Played 1 game less
** Played 2 Games Less
***** Played 5 games less


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 14, 2018, 11:19:42 am
Sarturday fixtures...

BLACKPOOL  v  SOUTHEND UNITED
Charlton Athletic  v  FLEETWOOD TOWN
MK DONS  v  BURY
NORTHAMPTON  v  Rotherham
OLDHAM  v  Portsmouth
OXFORD UNITED v Peterborough
ROCHDALE  v  AFC WIMBLEDON

Monday 19th March

DONCASTER ROVERS  v  Bradford City

Tuesday 20th March

NORTHAMPTON TOWN  v  Shrewsbury
ROCHDALE  v  FLEETWOOD TOWN

Wednesday 21st March

WALSALL  v  Wigan Athletic


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monkey on March 14, 2018, 11:43:49 am
Rochdale with 2 games against other relegation rivals will be interesting. At least teams will drop points, but I'd definitely take 2 draws there...
Happy for Bury to beat MK and will be cheering on the Posh.

There's now a huge and significant difference between us winning and results going our way, and us losing and results going against us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 14, 2018, 17:26:41 pm
Call in Frank TP; that should be interesting!

No point saying anymore. I'll wait and see what happens in the next few weeks. All I will say is Boot and Shoe must be a bundle of fun to sit next to at games with his constant whining.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 14, 2018, 19:26:51 pm
No point saying anymore. I'll wait and see what happens in the next few weeks. All I will say is Boot and Shoe must be a bundle of fun to sit next to at games with his constant whining.


How about Christmas; him and Glaston proper jovial pair.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 14, 2018, 19:36:55 pm
How about Christmas; him and Glaston proper jovial pair.

Maybe we are just a bit more realistic than most. The truth hurts sometimes nevers.

But it's fine you keep sticking your head firmly in the sand with your claret tinted specs on!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 14, 2018, 20:32:56 pm
"Glaston" and Boot and Shoe have the weather forecast for us....

https://www.youtu.be/puy_B6AeuKI

The truth hurts sometimes.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 14, 2018, 21:11:19 pm
As we are all making predictions, I feel strongly that;
We'll win at Fleetwood and Bury, and get something at Walsall.

We'll beat Charlton at home and draw 1-1 on the final day against Oldham.

Absolutely no chance whatsoever of anything at Peterborough (though I'll be there!)

Don't know where that leaves us, but I am confident about the above!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 14, 2018, 21:23:00 pm
We are still not fit enough to compete strongly for 90 minutes - we need to physically be strong for a whole game and in that respect most sides have out-muscled us.
Sorry, that just simply isn't true! Most of our opponents remark on how physical the Cobblers are - the opposite of what you are saying. You have no idea about the mental frailties of other relegation threatened teams - unless you are out scouting, not to mention hiding in their dressing rooms!

Living in Oxford, speaking to their fans, reading their forum, reading and listening to the local media...now there is a team without fight...oh and the second longest managerless spell (so far!) in their relatively short league history!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 14, 2018, 21:26:13 pm
The truth hurts...

Sure does; bet you are a tankful of fun at Swindon BC




Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 17, 2018, 18:43:46 pm
Updated after todays games.....

13. Southend 47 (-12)  H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
14. Blackpool 46  (-4)    A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, H v Cobblers, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
15. Poxford 45*  (-2)    A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
16. Walsall  44   ( -7) H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
17. Doncaster  43* (-1)  H v Bradford, H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
18. Wombles 42   (-11)  H v Charlton, A v Shrews, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
19. Oldham 40*   (-12) H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
20. Fleetwood 39*  (-11) A v Rochdale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
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21. Cobblers 39    (-25)  H v Shrews, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 38         (-14)  A v Bradford,  H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 34 ***      (-8) H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30            (-24)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 17, 2018, 18:51:14 pm
Sure does; bet you are a tankful of fun at Swindon BC




Swindon BC ??


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 17, 2018, 19:01:09 pm
We look shot with only one possible outcome this season UNLESS JFH can change his whole style of management overnight.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 17, 2018, 23:33:54 pm
We've only scored 15 home goals this season. Our League record low is 19. We have 4 games to beat this. Can we?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 18, 2018, 01:05:05 am
15 home goals!!!!!! 15!!!!!!!

**** hell.

**** off JFH.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on March 18, 2018, 11:14:57 am
Oldham game off next Saturday due to international call ups


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: tcobb on March 18, 2018, 11:50:05 am
GPC  Check you estimate of Fleetwoods games. Think they have 10 left.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 18, 2018, 14:13:46 pm
GPC  Check you estimate of Fleetwoods games. Think they have 10 left.

Done TC!!

Massive week coming up......Fleetwood can do themselves a massive favour or significant damage this week! They have a trip to Rochdale on Tuesday, us at home on Saturday then AFC Wimbledon away on Good Friday. From then on they've got a difficult set of fixtures.

I'm going to say that Bury are down....they need at least 7 wins from their last 9 games to reach 50 points......it isn't happening.

Rochdale still keep plugging away....they're unbeaten in 4 and have a bit of momentum.....but need to turn some of those draws into wins. I think they need 17 points from their last 12 games.......

We need 13 points (due to our poor GD) from our last 9 games...so Rochdale need fewer points per game than we do now!! I just can't see where those 13 points are coming from.

MK Dons.....all that time without a win and then 2 come along at once....done them a big favour, they also have a couple of winnable games coming up....home against Blackpool next. Will this give them the momentum they need?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on March 18, 2018, 14:33:31 pm
Four of the last six games for Dongs are Blackburn, Wigan, Sc***horpe and Shrewsbury so hoping they will not get many points from these.

Think Bury are down then three of us,Wimbledon, Oldham, Rochdale and Dongs


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 18, 2018, 20:59:25 pm
The great thing about Wigan dropping out of the cup today is that they can now concentrate on the League.  They play 6 of the bottom 7 in their remaining games.

I just hope that their failure to dispatch Southampton in the first half today hasn't left them physically & emotionally spent.

Wigan are the key to our survival!!!!!!

Come on Michael Jacobs.....  One of our own.  You can do it for us.  (Please?)



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 17:11:21 pm
Doncaster V Bradford tonight.

I see that the game on Saturday between Oldham and Walsall is off due to "Insufficient Players".  What's the crack there?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 19, 2018, 17:17:54 pm
Doncaster V Bradford tonight.

I see that the game on Saturday between Oldham and Walsall is off due to "Insufficient Players".  What's the crack there?

International week.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 17:23:06 pm
International week.

How many internationals do they have?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 19, 2018, 17:26:44 pm
Rotherham was a must win...we're down especially with our GD.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on March 19, 2018, 17:48:18 pm
Might as well not play the rest of our games then - save more humiliation?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 17:49:51 pm
How many internationals do they have?

Answering myself..  

Oldham quote three on their web site but only one of those was in the 18 named for their game at home against Portsmouth.

Walsall also quote three but only one played in their last game against Shrewsbury. The other two were unused subs.

I think this has more to do with Walsall paling Wigan on Wednesday.


Have we ever called a game off because of international call ups?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 19, 2018, 20:51:47 pm
Doncaster V Bradford tonight.


And of course....on Tuesday its......

NORTHAMPTON v Shrewsbury
ROCHDALE  v  FLEETWOOD


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 19, 2018, 21:28:12 pm
And of course....on Tuesday its......

NORTHAMPTON v Shrewsbury
ROCHDALE  v  FLEETWOOD

NORTHAMPTON v Shrewsbury 0- 4
ROCHDALE  v  FLEETWOOD 2-0


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 21:36:07 pm
Doncaster V Bradford tonight.



0-0 HT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 19, 2018, 22:04:52 pm
0-0 HT

Watching it on Sky...there's hardly anyone there!! Yorkshire derby?? Only 40 odd miles between the two...it looks like there are 500 Bradford fans there tops in a crowd of about 5000


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 22:17:59 pm
1-0 Doncaster


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 19, 2018, 22:22:55 pm
If Bradford didn't have a great start to the season they would be in a relegation scrap. 0 wins in 11 if they don't win tonight


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 19, 2018, 22:34:21 pm
2-0 Doncaster  FT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 19, 2018, 22:40:30 pm
2-0 Doncaster  FT

Marquis with both.......a fictional attendance of 7,369


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 19, 2018, 22:44:20 pm
Updated after tonights game....

13. Southend 47 (-12)   H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
14. Doncaster  46 (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
15. Blackpool 46  (-4)    A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, H v Cobblers, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
16. Poxford 45*  (-2)     A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Walsall  44   ( -7)     H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
18. Wombles 42   (-11)  H v Charlton, A v Shrews, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
19. Oldham 40*   (-12)  H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
20. Fleetwood 39* (-11) A v Rochdale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Cobblers 39    (-25)  H v Shrews, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 38         (-14)  A v Bradford,  H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 34 ***      (-8) H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30            (-24)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 19, 2018, 22:51:17 pm
Updated after tonights game....

13. Southend 47 (-12)   H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
14. Doncaster  46 (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
15. Blackpool 46  (-4)    A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Fleetwood, H v Cobblers, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
16. Poxford 45*  (-2)     A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Walsall  44   ( -7)     H v Wigan, A v Oldham, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
18. Wombles 42   (-11)  H v Charlton, A v Shrews, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
19. Oldham 40*   (-12)  H v Pompey, H v Walsall, A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
20. Fleetwood 39* (-11) A v Rochdale, H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Cobblers 39    (-25)  H v Shrews, A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 38         (-14)  A v Bradford,  H v Bury, H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 34 ***      (-8) H v Fleetwood, A v Scunny, H v Plymouth, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30            (-24)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand
It doesn't matter who we play we're crap. They could play the Hotelend XI and still lose. JFH is totally useless.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 19, 2018, 23:20:35 pm
I've drawn a line above Walsall now leaving 8 teams in the relegation mix. Q


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 19, 2018, 23:25:18 pm
I've drawn a line above Walsall now leaving 8 teams in the relegation mix. Q

I've left them in....but I don't suppose they'll be there much longer. Its widely accepted that 50/51/52 points will be enough.....lets be honest, if someone like Southend don't pick up 3 points from their remaining 9 games then they deserve to go down!!

As it stands now I think Bury are gone.....I had written off Rochdale and MK but am not so sure now!! Perm any 3 from 6 as you said....up to Walsall.

Things will be a little clearer tomorrow.....perhaps!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: addyNP on March 20, 2018, 07:03:09 am
Oh for a scrapper up front like John Marquis


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: threeinabed on March 20, 2018, 09:00:56 am
Oh for a scrapper up front like John Marquis

or a sky sports boost for a marquis brace at 16-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on March 20, 2018, 13:52:47 pm
I've got to the point now where i'm more hopeful other teams don't win than I am of us winning. I cannot see where the extra 11-14 points are we need in order to survive are going to come from


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 20, 2018, 14:20:46 pm
I've got to the point now where i'm more hopeful other teams don't win than I am of us winning. I cannot see where the extra 11-14 points are we need in order to survive are going to come from


Agreed & whilst I desperately want us to achieve more than one season in a higher league (for the first time in 50 years) there is a darker side of me that says make it worse quicker so we can have a root and branch clear out - trouble is currently I don't see much positive happening as an outcome to that.

I'm actually starting to get a little more inclined to some of Bed's and Random's views - not necessarily infrastructure in terms of steel, concrete and seats but until we fundamentally change the infrastructure at the heart of the club (The people who finance it and make the decisions for it) I think the future is somewhat bleak.

Why do we get so many manager decisions wrong? - with one or two exceptions why are so many players dreadful for us but go on to better things? (Swindon must think we were barking mad to part with Richards and Taylor) - nothing to do with different leagues as its obvious this side (certainly under JFH) would also struggle in L2.

We live in hope but currently for me JFH is running Gary Johnson a close contest as our worst manager in the last 2 decades & I still believe the latter could have done better but was happy with a pay off meal ticket from, first Posh, then us so he could return fully paid off to his beloved West Country - JFH on the other hand is unlikely to get better due to his total lack of self awareness & personal accountability. If he remains in charge I think relegation is more likely than not, followed by a season flirting with the real trap door of the football league.


Please prove me wrong and put 4 past Shrewsbury in a crowd pleasing spectacular attacking performance............
   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 20, 2018, 14:27:16 pm
One of the things that makes this season worse than normal is we actually had the backing to cobble together a decent side in the summer.

When that clearly hadn't been done well enough the funds were made available in January.

To still see a team putting in performance after abject performance at home is much more frustrating than the teams we had in the past.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 20, 2018, 16:41:36 pm
One of the things that makes this season worse than normal is we actually had the backing to cobble together a decent side in the summer.

When that clearly hadn't been done well enough the funds were made available in January.

To still see a team putting in performance after abject performance at home is much more frustrating than the teams we had in the past.

......its the lack of urgency, passion and any sort of cohesion that hacks me off - the manager (who bought and picks the players) has to take the accountability for this - the worse teams in a division are not necessarily the ones that get relegated but poor teams with a bad attitude are prime candidates and sadly we are in that category right now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 20, 2018, 17:45:58 pm
......its the lack of urgency, passion and any sort of cohesion that hacks me off - the manager (who bought and picks the players) has to take the accountability for this - the worse teams in a division are not necessarily the ones that get relegated but poor teams with a bad attitude are prime candidates and sadly we are in that category right now.
Couldn't agree more, defeat tonight and again against Fleetwood and his position is untenable


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 21, 2018, 00:10:34 am
Updated after tonights games....

13. Southend 47* (-12)   H v Rotherham, A v Plymouth, H v Gills, A v Blackburn, A v Oxford, H v MK, A v Oldham, A v Bradford, H v Bristol R
14. Doncaster  46* (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
15. Blackpool 46*  (-4)    A v MK, H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
16. Poxford 45**  (-2)     A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Walsall  44*   ( -7)     H v Wigan, H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
18. Wombles 42*   (-11)  A v Shrews, H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
19. Fleetwood 42* (-19)  H v Cobblers, A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol R, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
20. Oldham 40**   (-12)  A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Cobblers 40     (-25)  A v Fleetwood, H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 38*      (-14)  H v Blackpool, A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 34 ***    (-10)  A v Scunny, H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30*        (-24)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Wigan, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 21, 2018, 00:17:18 am
Doomed currently running at less than a point a game bottom four are there for good.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 21, 2018, 00:24:14 am
If we play like we did tonight with that formation and tempo (and we must), we will give every one of our last eight opponents a game and we will win matches before the end of the season.
I hope, but I'm not sure it'll be enough.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 21, 2018, 00:30:05 am
We can but hope.....we've used a game but not made any progress. We were bottom 4 and level on points before tonight, now we're bottom 4 and level on points with a game fewer to get out of that four. And everyone now has at least a game in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 21, 2018, 00:38:21 am
Yep, despite a positive performance and absorbing game and grabbing a point against the second placed team, our survival hopes look slimmer maybe?! Everyone else with games in hand and our goal difference really makes the table uncomfortable reading. Saturday at Fleetwood really feels like a must-win.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on March 21, 2018, 00:54:39 am
Must not lose on Saturday, I would say.

Ten points from last eight games I believe (hope) will be enough. So (just) three wins and a draw

Both Oldham and Rochdale have fixture backlogs. Could work for them if they get momentum, but also against them if start losing and pressure starts to mount.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 21, 2018, 01:29:56 am
Biggest thing for us is to take points off those around us when we can.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on March 21, 2018, 09:14:53 am
We have got to play 5 of the bottom 10 teams in our last 8 games, it is entirely in our own hands. If we play like we did last night and show that level of commitment and fight there is no reason why we can't stay up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 21, 2018, 09:37:00 am
I canít see us getting four wins from eight .
John joe now being out doesnít help that cause although I have every faith in McWilliams . He is not a goal threat though .
We are playing some of the bottom teams in the run in but those teams are in form and we are not .
We played well last night but still didnít create many chances . This will be our downfall


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 21, 2018, 10:02:14 am
I canít see us getting four wins from eight .
John joe now being out doesnít help that cause although I have every faith in McWilliams . He is not a goal threat though .
We are playing some of the bottom teams in the run in but those teams are in form and we are not .
We played well last night but still didnít create many chances . This will be our downfall

We need wins!! A look at the table shows us as the only side in the bottom 12 without a win in the last 6 games.

Improved performance definitely......sadly not the result it arguably warranted.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 21, 2018, 10:07:06 am
The next batch of games...pre-Easter.... Oldham without a game on Saturday, so will have three games in hand on us.

TONIGHT

WALSALL  v  Wigan Athletic


SATURDAY

BURY  v  Wigan Athletic
FLEETWOOD  v  NORTHAMPTON
MK DONS  v  BLACKPOOL
Suncthorpe  v  ROCHDALE
Shrewsbury Town  v  AFC WIMBLEDON

SUNDAY

Portsmouth  v  OXFORD UNITED


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Mathius on March 21, 2018, 10:14:10 am
Better performance but just one point. JFH said on Saturday that he doesn't see John-Joe as a midfielder. Where did John-Joe play last night? JFH is constantly shooting in the dark, hoping to hit a moving target. Occasionally, he gets a win; more from luck than judgement.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 21, 2018, 10:14:51 am
We need wins!! A look at the table shows us as the only side in the bottom 12 without a win in the last 6 games.

Improved performance definitely......sadly not the result it arguably warranted.
We played well but a draw was a fair result . They created a lot more chances than us , mainly because our final delivery wasnít great all night . We were lucky not to concede a penalty as well.
We simply need to work the keeper more


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 21, 2018, 10:59:58 am
Better performance but just one point. JFH said on Saturday that he doesn't see John-Joe as a midfielder. Where did John-Joe play last night? JFH is constantly shooting in the dark, hoping to hit a moving target. Occasionally, he gets a win; more from luck than judgement.
And was playing well until he got sent off .
Not sure why JFH said that about JJOT - it may have been mistenterpreted by us all .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on March 21, 2018, 11:01:29 am
Trying to work out where the four wins may come from...looking at Fleetwood, Bury and Oldham and then possibly Plymouth at home if we can match last night's showing.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on March 21, 2018, 11:06:59 am
The table looked so much better at half time last night. A draw in the other game was perfect.

Negatives - Rivals with games in hand, poor goal difference and us being out of form

Positives - A couple of teams have still got to play each other and a chance for us to take points off a few rivals.

Realistically we need to take 9 points from the next 7 (ideally wins vs Fleetwood, Walsall and Bury) and hope that's enough to keep us above MK Dons and Rochdale. Then hope that we're within 2 points of Oldham by the final game to give us a chance.

We have have 2 periods this season where we have hit a bit of form (November and January), we need another cluster like that otherwise it's curtains.

Personally I don't think we'll stay up but as long as there is a chance we can believe.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: random on March 21, 2018, 12:37:08 pm
Hi Cobblerwatch, I think you are just more patience than beds and I.

there are hundreds of factors on and off the pitch that result in our status and league position, there is no simple answer or straight choices like some of the anti developement lot like to offer.

EVERYTHING has to pull in the same direction, everyone has to work together with a common goal. I am a big believer that this is what happened in the promotion year, we had to fight and work together. I was at the end of season dinner where KT spoke about unity, community and progressing forward, which was fantastic. However they have proved to be hollow and just sound bites.

Sorry in advance Roger and Fez but the Trust demonstrates this clearly. In the DC darkest days the Trust were absolutely amazing, working incredibly hard saving the club. They were direct and aggressive in their determination but since then they have reverted back to type issuing the odd politically correct statement etc.

We once again find ourselves battling relegation with owners who only want to develop the club through NBC handouts, owners that don't even live in the country let alone the town.  Again we have gone through tens of different players, different managers with the same results.

IMHO it's because there is no ambition, no goals, no identity, no pride and no pressure to achieve anything. Behind the scenes there are no leaders, no one driving the club forward, demanding better standards, more attention to detail. The fans happy to accept no progress and no development

As I have said many times, if you stand still, you are going backwards.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 21, 2018, 12:57:32 pm
Hi Cobblerwatch, I think you are just more patience than beds and I.

there are hundreds of factors on and off the pitch that result in our status and league position, there is no simple answer or straight choices like some of the anti developement lot like to offer.

EVERYTHING has to pull in the same direction, everyone has to work together with a common goal. I am a big believer that this is what happened in the promotion year, we had to fight and work together. I was at the end of season dinner where KT spoke about unity, community and progressing forward, which was fantastic. However they have proved to be hollow and just sound bites.

Sorry in advance Roger and Fez but the Trust demonstrates this clearly. In the DC darkest days the Trust were absolutely amazing, working incredibly hard saving the club. They were direct and aggressive in their determination but since then they have reverted back to type issuing the odd politically correct statement etc.

We once again find ourselves battling relegation with owners who only want to develop the club through NBC handouts, owners that don't even live in the country let alone the town.  Again we have gone through tens of different players, different managers with the same results.

IMHO it's because there is no ambition, no goals, no identity, no pride and no pressure to achieve anything. Behind the scenes there are no leaders, no one driving the club forward, demanding better standards, more attention to detail. The fans happy to accept no progress and no development

As I have said many times, if you stand still, you are going backwards.


Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 21, 2018, 13:11:56 pm
Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!

Bit harsh but agree with you!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Quintonside on March 21, 2018, 13:15:58 pm
Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!

Spot on!

We bought some rubbish players
we had a lot of players on the decline
We have some good players who have not played well
We have lacked players in certain positions at points through the season
We have played players out of position
Formations have been questionable at times.

Some of the above linked to the manager either JED or JFH or both.

I back JFH by the way.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 21, 2018, 13:26:05 pm
Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!

The old me would have agreed with you 100% on this but I'm starting to think more deeply about the sustainability of success - in the many decades I have been following despite a couple of stella promotion seasons we have never stayed more than 2 seasons in the league above. Despite the never ending stadium debate we have attendances (or potential) better than most in L2 clubs and respectable in L1 - sure we have signed a "name" manager (we have done that before and it's never worked and looks unlikely this time), sure we have spent money in January but in the grand scheme of sustained investment this is more short term boom (actually not working ) and bust - sadly at the moment it's bust and bust!
I'm still less cynical than some re the intentions of our owners and certainly don't agree it all gets resolved by a better hospitality, a few boxes and a couple of thousand extra seats - but the lack of this happening for such a protracted period (despite the obvious complications) does imply a certain malaise at the club. The lack of proper training facilities is another area - one that I think a far higher priority than the redevelopment wants.

I certainly don't have the answer but I do know from a business perspective short term investment (which I believe we have had) does not guarantee success (in our case definitely not) but the only proven successful path is a longer term strategic view that provided sustainable success.  

It's an interesting thing - when I'm at an away game I'm considerably more proud of my club & it's dedicated fans than when I'm at Sixfields where the sterile atmosphere (not the number of seats) sadly conveys a message of treading water.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 21, 2018, 13:54:46 pm
Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!
what investment? Desperation buying of players is not an investment but an necessity.
And those bought other than facey have little to no sell on value.
Facey will leave for an undisclosed £250,000 close season, should we get relegated because its how we do things since probably the 1977 relegation and why?
Because no real investment being made in the clubs infrastructure which is whats needed to attract  players that can realise real fees and not bargain basement players.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: random on March 21, 2018, 14:02:55 pm
Yes BS I am for real. I did say it is things off and ON the field.

However we have been here before, with different managers and different players but keep getting the same sort of results. You are not for real or totally stupid if you cannot understand that off field issues etc effect results (over the course of time)

Otherwise the league positions would be just on who has the best players.

Sunderland would not about to be in League 1.

Whilst the number of seats and infrastructure are important (why is just about every club trying to improve theirs) as i said there are lots of other factors.

BS you cannot argue that off the pitch the club is very stale and the ground doesn't help. Footballers, managers, staff etc are all just doing a job, so like almost all other employees they are motivated by the owners of the business and the direction the business / workplace is going. Is the business small family run where everyone pulls together and works hard for it to survive?  Is it a hi tech one where everything is modern and funky where people are encouraged and trained to be creative, enabling them to produce their best, or is it where the owners are not bothered, the same staff where certain people get better treatment than others, little to no training, where the workplace is dark, cheap and outdated and there are no real goals / targets or ambition other than get through the day.

If you worked at the last one, would you be motivated to do your best, to grow the business and really enjoy the process???

Business 1 = Burton
Business 2 = Man City
Business 3 = Northampton

Business 1 = Most local small businesses and shops
Business 2 = Apple
Business 3 = Toys R Us




Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 21, 2018, 14:07:08 pm
Because no real investment being made in the clubs infrastructure which is whats needed to attract  players that can realise real fees and not bargain basement players.
Do you really think players are attracted to clubs by their infrastructure ?  For 99% of players it's about 1 thing and one thing only, money !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 21, 2018, 14:21:54 pm
Business 1 = Burton - A very aging squad and fans anticipating real danger for their teams future. They moan about the same things we moan about with regards to club infrastructure... so don't see this as a good reference point?
Business 2 = Man City - Bankrolled by billions probably help.
Business 3 = Northampton


I feel the point you're making is the only success you can enjoy is by having a Qatari billionaire bankroll you?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: random on March 21, 2018, 14:36:43 pm
Roger again like everyone else money is a major factor but other things are important too. One reason Newcastle struggle is that players don't want to live there and prefer London, Manchester etc. Players often have a few clubs to choice from so infracsture does play a part as does ambition.

Wolvo. Burton have spend 2 seasons in Championship on 5000 crowds, basically a non league club and fan base that has achieved far more than us. The fact that as an away you buy sausage and chips and a pint inside the ground also puts them ahead of us.

No doubt having lots of money helps, even Bournemouth lost £15m a season when in championship but it doesn't mean we shouldn't try. In fact Northampton with its catchment area, surrounding land and location should have been prime for someone with real money to come in and take us forward.




Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 21, 2018, 14:44:52 pm

Wolvo. Burton have spend 2 seasons in Championship on 5000 crowds, basically a non league club and fan base that has achieved far more than us. The fact that as an away you buy sausage and chips and a pint inside the ground also puts them ahead of us.

Correct, they have spent 2 seasons on 5000 crowds. So we shouldn't improve our capacity if that's what you deem as success?

And you can buy hotdogs, chips, burgers and pints inside our ground as well? Is this a club success?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 21, 2018, 15:45:23 pm
Roger again like everyone else money is a major factor but other things are important too. 
Derek remember when Alexis Sanchez was leaving Barcelona to come to the Prem, he was wanted by Arsenal and Liverpool. He went to Arsenal but as soon as Man U offered him silly money, the North West didn't seem quite so bad.
    I know what you are saying that if you are a player with no affiliation to any club and they all offer the same money, you would go to the one in the nicest area or the one that had the best facilities. But if one of them offered more money, the player will go there.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: random on March 21, 2018, 16:03:26 pm
Motivated and ambitious players tend to preform better than those motivated by money and security.

Think we have both seen our fair share of the later at NTFC

Wolvo donít think I will even bother raising to your pathetic answer. There is no away bar inside sixfields and not sure about away chips either



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 21, 2018, 16:18:36 pm
Motivated and ambitious players tend to preform better than those motivated by money and security.

So how do you know if a player is motivated by ambition or by money ?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 21, 2018, 17:42:33 pm
Derek remember when Alexis Sanchez was leaving Barcelona to come to the Prem, he was wanted by Arsenal and Liverpool. He went to Arsenal but as soon as Man U offered him silly money, the North West didn't seem quite so bad.
    I know what you are saying that if you are a player with no affiliation to any club and they all offer the same money, you would go to the one in the nicest area or the one that had the best facilities. But if one of them offered more money, the player will go there.
...otherwise, Middlesbrough FC would be squadless!  ;D

Actually, Burton (this season certainly) are nearer the 4000 mark, crowd wise. I would imagine closer still to 3000 if it's home fan counting only!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 21, 2018, 18:18:13 pm
Is this the Redev thread?  ???


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on March 21, 2018, 20:27:35 pm
Motivated and ambitious players tend to preform better than those motivated by money and security.

So it's better to be motivated AND ambitious, as opposed to just motivated?

Interesting theory. What about if you have talent as well?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Travelaway on March 21, 2018, 20:44:16 pm
Pulling this back on topic...Oystons playing games with Blackpool

Oyston said Belokon was "seriously damaging the club" by "refusing" to allow the family to fund it.

"At the moment the football club is using money to keep it afloat that was borrowed by Owen Oyston," the statement added.

"The simple truth is that he is refusing to engage in discussions to save the football club from further damage and to avoid at all costs its administration and the deduction of 12 points which will relegate it."

Certainly dont wish this on any club


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 21, 2018, 20:54:43 pm
Trying to work out where the four wins may come from...looking at Fleetwood, Bury and Oldham and then possibly Plymouth at home if we can match last night's showing.
Little chance against Plymouth, who will be looking to cement their playoff berth...Charlton on Good Friday a good bet. In a downward spiral and manager issues whether KR stays or goes!
Bury away - a win surely?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 21, 2018, 20:58:57 pm
Are you seriously suggesting the reason for our table position is down to off the field reasons and lack of ambition???
Are you for real ?
The club hasnít had so much investment in a long time . Itís purely and simply down to players and management . Nothing more and nothing less.
Where do these people come from !!
China?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 21, 2018, 21:24:52 pm
The fact away fans buy sausage and chips put them ahead of us.

Give over.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 21, 2018, 21:29:59 pm
As I said a couple of weeks back when Dale played Walsall...

...the Saddlers are well in the mix. The day at Walsall could be our Shrews 93!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on March 21, 2018, 21:45:55 pm
Walsall 0-3 Wigan at the break...defeat for Saddlers would leave them within four points with the same games played. Could be a good target with plenty of others having games in hand on us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 21, 2018, 22:29:38 pm
Pulling this back on topic...Oystons playing games with Blackpool

Oyston said Belokon was "seriously damaging the club" by "refusing" to allow the family to fund it.

"At the moment the football club is using money to keep it afloat that was borrowed by Owen Oyston," the statement added.

"The simple truth is that he is refusing to engage in discussions to save the football club from further damage and to avoid at all costs its administration and the deduction of 12 points which will relegate it."

Certainly dont wish this on any club

I wouldn't wish it on any club... but I'd gladly benefit from it if it happens.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Charlatan on March 22, 2018, 16:50:31 pm
Walsall 0-3 Wigan at the break...defeat for Saddlers would leave them within four points with the same games played. Could be a good target with plenty of others having games in hand on us.
Definitely.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 24, 2018, 18:18:00 pm
Its not looking good. After teasing us on Tues with a performance we reverted to type in a must-not-lose game. We've played more games than anyone else down there, have the worst goal difference and are on a bad run. MK are picking up points as are Dale - both can overtake us. Oldham now have 3 games in hand, a win in just 1 of those puts them effectively 4 points clear of us. I think Wimbledon and Walsall could be catchable. I've drawn the line above Walsall. Fleetwood are in good form now. We need a minimum 4 points over Easter but the Boro game looks as intimidating as ever.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 24, 2018, 18:19:41 pm
give it up - we are relegated and deserve to be so


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on March 25, 2018, 09:40:03 am
So the general consensus is that we need an improbable 4 wins (12 points) from 7 games. Our most recent 7 games have yielded just 4 points (all draws) so current form suggests we have no chance. The 7 games prior to that however, yielded 13 points (4 wins, 1 draw). So we have fairly recently been able to achieve what we now need but am I confident??? NO.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shadowstorm on March 25, 2018, 10:27:54 am
You'd be about right Wadey though I'd be happier with 5 wins 55pts.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 25, 2018, 13:24:07 pm
Updated after Sundays Pompey v Oxford game.....

14. Blackpool 47*  (-4)     H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
15. Doncaster  46** (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 45**  (-5)      H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Fleetwood 45* (-17)   A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol R, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
18. Walsall  44*   ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
19. Wombles 42*   (-12)   H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Oldham 40***  (-12)  A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
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21. Cobblers 40     (-27)  H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 39*      (-14)   A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 35 ***    (-10)   H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30*        (-26)  A v MK, A v Donny, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 25, 2018, 13:42:55 pm
Updated after yesterdays games....

15. Blackpool 47*  (-4)     H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
14. Doncaster  46** (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 45***  (-2)     A v Pompey, H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
19. Fleetwood 45* (-17)   A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol R, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
17. Walsall  44*   ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
18. Wombles 42*   (-12)   H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Oldham 40***  (-12)  A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
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21. Cobblers 40     (-27)  H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
22. Dongs 39*      (-14)   A v Gills, H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
23. Dale 35 ***    (-10)   H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30*        (-26)  A v MK, A v Donny, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Judging by the fixtures some clubs have that is bottom 8 or 9; in fact some clubs have absolutely stinkers in their last three games! Whatever the doomsday boys think it is still in our hands! I would not be surprised if 51 PTS is sufficient.Still onto the next game. ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 25, 2018, 13:50:09 pm
Judging by the fixtures some clubs have that is bottom 8 or 9; in fact some clubs have absolutely stinkers in their last three games! Whatever the doomsday boys think it is still in our hands! I would not be surprised if 51 PTS is sufficient.Still onto the next game. ::)

But won't every club think the same....its still in their hands too!! If they all won all of their games we'd be down....so its not actually in our hands at all!!!

Its a very mixed bag of fixtures left for some....for example once Oldham get Wigan out of the way have they got a real toughie in their last 9 games? AFC also have Wigan but would look at the rest as winnable. Oxford have a tougher run in....still to play all of the top 3, but then they have 5 points more than us, a better GD and have three games in hand.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 25, 2018, 15:01:59 pm
We are f*cked.

Evers you need to wake the f*ck up mate.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on March 25, 2018, 15:08:36 pm
We are f*cked.

Evers you need to wake the f*ck up mate.

Loser ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on March 25, 2018, 15:09:20 pm
We are f*cked.

Evers you need to wake the f*ck up mate.
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Loser ;D

Good one.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on March 25, 2018, 15:51:55 pm
Before the Shrewsbury game we had nine games left.

Splitting into blocks of three, I was thinking four points from each block will leave us with 51 points, which should (hopefully) be good enough to keep us up.

Simple !




Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 25, 2018, 16:00:49 pm
Before the Shrewsbury game we had nine games left.

Splitting into blocks of three, I was thinking four points from each block will leave us with 51 points, which should (hopefully) be good enough to keep us up.

Simple !



So win on Friday v Charlton will put us on track with your survival plan?
Well Im buying into your theory as its the last one standing.
I've gone from 90% relegation certainties to 70% on reading that.. and I will turn up at Sixfields with a little more hope😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 25, 2018, 16:48:47 pm
We wont win Friday. WE ARE DOWN!!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 25, 2018, 18:20:42 pm
So here are the fixtures in the week ahead......

Thursday.....

Gillingham  v  MK DONS

Good Friday.....

OXFORD UNITED  v  Scunethorpe United (12.45)
Wigan Athletic  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC  (13:00)
AFC WIMBLEDON  v  FLEETWOOD TOWN
BLACKPOOL  v  DONCASTER ROVERS
Bristol Rovers  v  BURY
NORTHAMPTON TOWN  v Charlton Athletic
ROCHDALE  v  Shrewsbury Town

Saturday.....

WALSALL  v  Portsmouth

Easter Monday....

Bradford City  v  WALSALL
DONCASTER ROVERS  v  AFC WIMBLEDON
FLEETWOOD TOWN  v  Bristol Rovers
MK DONS  v Blackburn Rovers
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  BLACKPOOL
Peterborough United  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
Shrewsbury Town  v  OXFORD UNITED


Tuesday 3rd....

BURY  V  ROCHDALE


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on March 25, 2018, 18:26:21 pm
If Jimmy was binned and someone like Alexander in the hotseat I could see us winning maybe 3-4 of the last games which maybe enough, if he's still here I think we will finish either bottom or 23rd take your pick.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 25, 2018, 21:14:22 pm
Well done Portsmouth. If we do go down it would be nice to take MK and Oxford with us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on March 25, 2018, 21:25:58 pm
If Jimmy was binned and someone like Alexander in the hotseat I could see us winning maybe 3-4 of the last games which maybe enough, if he's still here I think we will finish either bottom or 23rd take your pick.

Alexander would be interesting. V. surprised they've sacked him given they're 5th in the league.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 25, 2018, 21:48:05 pm
We are the worst team in the league .
If we donít finish bottom we will have done well.
Poor football all season and too many players with no bottle .
Maybe Jimmy can see why people booed now . It was deserved


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 25, 2018, 21:58:24 pm
We are the worst team in the league .
If we donít finish bottom we will have done well.
Poor football all season and too many players with no bottle .
Maybe Jimmy can see why people booed now . It was deserved

What will you do if we do the unlikely and stay up?  Run up gold street in nothing more than your socks and a smile?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 25, 2018, 21:59:27 pm
We are the worst team in the league .
If we donít finish bottom we will have done well.
Poor football all season and too many players with no bottle .
Maybe Jimmy can see why people booed now . It was deserved

Not the worst.....

Bury & Wimbledon are even worse than us.  A toss-up about MK & Oldham.  Maybe even Walsall & Blackpool?

Still plenty to play for......  and, no, I am not "Cecelia" in disguise......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 25, 2018, 22:31:55 pm
Latest relegation odds....... (SkyBet)

Bury (no odds!!)
MK Dons  1/5
Cobblers  2/7
Rochdale 4/5
Oldham 3/1
AFC Wimbledon 11/4
Walsall 4/1
Fleetwood 11/2
Oxford 7/1.......

40/1 bar.

For all you claret tinted specs brigade out there, SkyBet are also offering odds of 11/4 for us to stay up......you can almost triple your money if you're that sure we'll beat the drop!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 25, 2018, 22:36:15 pm
Latest relegation odds....... (SkyBet)

Bury (no odds!!)
MK Dons  1/5
Cobblers  2/7
Rochdale 4/5
Oldham 3/1
AFC Wimbledon 11/4
Walsall 4/1
Fleetwood 11/2
Oxford 7/1.......

40/1 bar.

For all you claret tinted specs brigade out there, SkyBet are also offering odds of 11/4 for us to stay up......you can almost triple your money if you're that sure we'll beat the drop!!

That's me £30K up on the deal, then.....   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 25, 2018, 22:48:07 pm
Oxford 7/1.......looks like a good prospect. If only I was a betting man.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on March 25, 2018, 23:07:38 pm
I actually thought that Oxford looked much better today than when we played them a few weeks ago, but still lost 3-0 !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 25, 2018, 23:09:49 pm
Oxford 7/1.......looks like a good prospect. If only I was a betting man.

With a certain Karl Robinson in charge, I think it is worth a bet......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ICF-OY3N6I


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 25, 2018, 23:36:41 pm
If Jimmy was binned and someone like Alexander in the hotseat I could see us winning maybe 3-4 of the last games which maybe enough, if he's still here I think we will finish either bottom or 23rd take your pick.

Not Alexander, please...  :o


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 25, 2018, 23:39:41 pm
Not Alexander, please...  :o

Agreed .....  and, that is beyond creeping to an Admin guy!!!!!

(Although....... )


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 26, 2018, 18:32:09 pm
Gillingham    to beat MK Dons (or draw at the least) on Tuesday. Gillingham could still make the playoffs and one would hope that they play with this in mind.   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 26, 2018, 22:53:30 pm
Its too late to rely on other teams we've blown it..
Bury, Dongs, us and 1 more..Oldham, Dale or The Real Dons


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 26, 2018, 23:03:56 pm
Its too late to rely on other teams we've blown it..
Bury, Dongs, us and 1 more..Oldham, Dale or The Real Dons

Nooooooo.....

Too many permutations and combinations of who plays who.

Survival is easier than we think.

It's all down to creating excitement & filling the stadium (and selling lots of delicious food) at the season's end........  thus swelling the bag of gold for the owners......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 27, 2018, 08:27:58 am
Simple solution to stiffen up the defence, get the midfield winning second ball and playing weighted passes into the strikers who then actually get meaningfull shots at goal that some actully go into the net.. and that is a 5 grand survival bonus to all players and coaches and £500 to everyone else down to the tea lady.
 Nothing else will get this lot motivated enough go the extra mile and and a half.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on March 27, 2018, 08:59:41 am
Simple solution to stiffen up the defence, get the midfield winning second ball and playing weighted passes into the strikers who then actually get meaningfull shots at goal that some actully go into the net.. and that is a 5 grand survival bonus to all players and coaches and £500 to everyone else down to the tea lady.
 Nothing else will get this lot motivated enough go the extra mile and and a half.

This simple solution that hasn't happened all season and a massive reason why Jimmy is getting so much stick. (The playing part not the financial bit)

I have no confidence our defence will keep a clean sheet, no confidence our midfield (without JJ) will win the second balls and no confidence our strike force will find the net. Can someone remind me why I go and watch?  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 27, 2018, 15:32:02 pm
Nothing else will get this lot motivated enough go the extra mile and and a half.

Are we playing at Franklins Gardens then?  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on March 29, 2018, 10:19:29 am
Back at it tonight...Plastics will go above us with any kind of result at Gillingham.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 29, 2018, 10:47:52 am
Back at it tonight...Plastics will go above us with any kind of result at Gillingham.

Gillingham for a bit patchy at the minute, hope they do us a favour.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 29, 2018, 20:38:58 pm
Gilly 1 Dongs 1 HT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 29, 2018, 21:09:08 pm
MK Dongs fans (yes there are some!) singing 'we are staying up'...for six minutes!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 29, 2018, 21:28:05 pm
MK Dongs fans (yes there are some!) singing 'we are staying up'...for six minutes!  ;D

443 Dongs in a crowd of 5540


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 29, 2018, 21:32:20 pm
Dons 2-1 up..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 29, 2018, 21:34:00 pm
The table looks very very grim


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 29, 2018, 21:41:23 pm
Gilly 1 Dongs 2 FT

What a grim result. Down to 22nd, shyte GD and played more games than everyone around us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on March 29, 2018, 21:42:59 pm
Oh Lord!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 29, 2018, 21:46:43 pm
Oh Lord!

You summoned me?

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on March 29, 2018, 21:49:47 pm
I think it's fair to say that there have been better evenings as a cobblers fan.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 29, 2018, 21:54:01 pm
I think it's fair to say that there have been better evenings as a cobblers fan.
I hope that we are not saying the same thing tomorrow evening.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 29, 2018, 22:10:24 pm
Gilly 1 Dongs 2 FT

What a grim result. Down to 22nd, shyte GD and played more games than everyone around us.
2 places above where we should be
Absolute embarrassment


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 29, 2018, 22:17:37 pm
Nothing has changed, we still need the same amount of wins/points between now and the end of the season. Starting tomorrow, hopefully.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on March 29, 2018, 22:50:17 pm
At least the Dongs have a tougher run in than us. Blackburn, Wigan and Doncaster next. 🤔


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 30, 2018, 12:45:55 pm
With Oxford v Scunny about to kick off and before this afternoons games this is the state of play now......

14. Blackpool 47*  (-4)     H v Donny, A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
15. Doncaster  46** (+1)  H v Blackburn, A v Bury, A v Blackpool, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Gills, A v MK, H v Oxford, A v Oldham, H v Wigan
16. Poxford 45**  (-5)      H v Scunny, A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
17. Fleetwood 45* (-17)   A v AFC Dons, H v Bristol R, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
18. Walsall  44*   ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
19. Wombles 42*   (-12)   H v Fleetwood, A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
20. Dongs 42        (-13)    H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
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21. Oldham 40***  (-12)  A v Wigan, H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gills, A v Dale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
22. Cobblers 40     (-27)  H v Charlton, A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
23. Dale 35 ***    (-10)   H v Shrews, A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30*        (-26)  A v MK, A v Donny, A v Bristol R, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Welly Cobb on March 30, 2018, 13:22:28 pm
Toney has just done us a favour at Oxford.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 30, 2018, 13:44:50 pm
Oldham losing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 30, 2018, 14:06:06 pm
1-1 poxford proper dodgy pen!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 30, 2018, 14:16:28 pm
Wigan 2-0


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on March 30, 2018, 16:17:46 pm
We're down..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on March 30, 2018, 16:34:13 pm
We're down..

Not yet,

but hopefully soon


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 30, 2018, 16:56:29 pm
.....and Rochdale take the lead......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 30, 2018, 17:10:11 pm
.....and Rochdale take the lead......

and now go 3-1 up......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on March 30, 2018, 17:11:59 pm
and now go 3-1 up......

That has to be a Guinness World Record.  They scored their first in the 12th minute of first-half time added on, and their third in the 6th minute of time added on in the second half.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 30, 2018, 18:00:57 pm
After this afternoons games......

14. Gillingham  48** (0)    A v Southend, H v Doncaster, H v Blackburn, A v Oldham, H v Rotherham, H v Blackpool, A v Bristol R, H v Plymouth
15. Fleetwood 48* (-6)      H v Bristol R, A v Rotherham, A v Oxford, A v Blackpool, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Walsall
16. Blackpool 47*  (-5)      A v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham
17. Poxford 46**  (-5)       A v Shrews, H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn
18. Walsall  44**  ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood
19. Dongs 42 *      (-13)    H v Blackburn, A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrews
20. Wombles 42*   (-13)    A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury
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21. Oldham 40***  (-15)  H v Blackpool, A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers
22. Cobblers 40     (-31)   A v Posh, A v Blackpool,A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham
23. Dale 38 ***    (-8)    A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton.
24. Bury 30*        (-27)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 30, 2018, 18:34:10 pm
My theory is this;
We need one more win from our last six matches than both Wombles and MK get from their last seven matches, and we need to match both in terms of draws.
We also need one of our wins to be against Oldham on the last day of season, and until then, we have to pick up no fewer than two points less from our five remaining matches than Oldham do from their eight remaining matches.
Fcuk it, we're going down  >:(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 30, 2018, 18:55:58 pm
My theory is this;
We need one more win from our last six matches than both Wombles and MK get from their last seven matches, and we need to match both in terms of draws.
We also need one of our wins to be against Oldham on the last day of season, and until then, we have to pick up no fewer than two points less from our five remaining matches than Oldham do from their eight remaining matches.
Fcuk it, we're going down  >:(


Sounds simple!!

You forgot to mention previously doomed Rochdale who are two points behind us with three games in hand.

It very much looks like we are going to finish 23rd.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 30, 2018, 19:06:30 pm
Sounds simple!!

You forgot to mention previously doomed Rochdale who are two points behind us with three games in hand.

It very much looks like we are going to finish 23rd.
My starting point was Bury are already down and Keith Hills Rochdale will have too much, so the three other teams most likely aside from us are Wombles real n fake, and Oldham.
Yeah agreed, twenty third looks most likely!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on March 30, 2018, 19:22:51 pm
Ive seen a lot of shltbag ntfc teams over the past 50 yrs  but this current lot take the biscuit, they are abysmal.
Thankfully we cant afford most of them and many will be fooked off in the summer.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on March 30, 2018, 19:31:59 pm
current lot take the biscuit

Wrong thread  ;D

How about the ones who lost at Stourbridge?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Another Pedj on March 30, 2018, 19:36:30 pm
To be honest the crap I witnessed at Stourbridge was IThink the worst I have seen. From game go game however this side is the worst i have witnessed in my 55 years of following the Cobblers. Is it the players? Or more likely the worst manager  I have witnessed since Fenwick.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on March 30, 2018, 19:40:39 pm
It certainly feels like the most needless and lacklustre relegation slump I can remember. All thanks to Dumb and Dumber.
We are very lucky to have a league two buffer. Letís hope for a summer revolution.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 30, 2018, 20:19:27 pm
Much further up the thread there were people saying we'd be ok, and that there's always a team who drops like a stone and can't get out of the spiral.....little did we know that was actually us!!

Rochdale keep picking up points, Sheridan has almost already completed his mission at Fleetwood, the boy at MK has come good with three wins in four.

We just keep going backwards.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on March 30, 2018, 21:52:49 pm
So win on Friday v Charlton will put us on track with your survival plan?
Well Im buying into your theory as its the last one standing.
I've gone from 90% relegation certainties to 70% on reading that.. and I will turn up at Sixfields with a little more hope😉

I apologise now .... After today's shambolic performance we will be lucky to get 41 points !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on March 30, 2018, 22:16:15 pm
I apologise now .... After today's shambolic performance we will be lucky to get 41 points !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eAxCVTMJ-I


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 31, 2018, 11:43:41 am
Upcoming fixtures.....(we of course don't play next weekend)

TODAY

WALSALL  v  Portsmouth

EASTER MONDAY

Bradford City  v  WALSALL
Doncaster Rovers  v  AFC WIMBLEDON
FLEETWOOD TOWN  v  Bristol Rovers
MK DONS  v  Blackburn Rovers
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  BLACKPOOL
Peterborough  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
Shrewsbury Town  v  OXFORD UNITED

Tuesday 3rd

BURY  V  ROCHDALE

Saturday 7th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Sconthorpe United
BLACKPOOL  v  Bradford City
OXFORD UNITED  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
ROCHDALE  v  Portsmouth
Rotherham United  v  FLEETWOOD TOWN
WALSALL  v  BURY
Wigan Athletic  v  MK DONS


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on March 31, 2018, 16:40:22 pm
Portsmouth take the lead against Walsall with ten mins left.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on March 31, 2018, 17:41:57 pm
At least Pompey got a late winner at Walsall.

Small mercies and all that!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: defender on April 01, 2018, 09:41:39 am

 sad but PISH WILL THRASH US. JFH OUT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: defender on April 01, 2018, 09:44:37 am
Ive seen a lot of shltbag ntfc teams over the past 50 yrs  but this current lot take the biscuit, they are abysmal.
Thankfully we cant afford most of them and many will be fooked off in the summer.


 AGREED! I am 74 now, I saw my first cobblers game when I was eight, I can't remember **** as bad as it is now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 01, 2018, 10:34:17 am
The players donít believe in the manager , the fans donít believe in the players and the and the manager doesnít believe in the fans .
Itís a viscous circle that has ended up with us being by far the worst team in the division.
Whatís gone wrong ?
It stems from the managers arrogance and the culture he has cultivated .
He persists with inept tactics and formations , baffling everyone except the opposition to whom we are a soft touch every week.
There is also a complete lack of strong leaders and players with bottle in that changing room .
The fans deserve more and the boos he was given months ago were justified


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Spinney cobbler on April 01, 2018, 20:26:56 pm
Ive seen a lot of shltbag ntfc teams over the past 50 yrs  but this current lot take the biscuit, they are abysmal.
Thankfully we cant afford most of them and many will be fooked off in the summer.
I think it more down to the manager than the player's there is some good players in there somewhere.It just needed someone who knows how to get the best out of them,I suppose playing them in their right positions would be a start.Can not see JFH giving any of them much confidence you play well and get dropped from the squad you play rubbish most games and stay in the team.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on April 01, 2018, 20:51:39 pm
  How far are we  off a hill top protests against the non active, secretive  supporters trust and notorious bedfellows of a succession of land grabbing outsiders..
Claim back our club.. Thomas the belittler out.
Or is it just me at the top of the hill next home game?
Why don't you read the Trust statement in the NTFC Supporters section to see the trust are not secretive, the members who met KT did so on Thursday afternoon meaning time off work, at their own expense, when was the last time you did anything apart from moan. Could you please explain how the Trust are "notorious bedfellows of a succession of land grabbing outsiders" and, when you post, make sure you can back it up with facts. Have a nice time on the hill  :-*


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 01, 2018, 20:58:15 pm
You can add to that Boot, some of the fans dont believe  in thomas and co and will be happy when they **** off... How far are we  off a hill top protests against the non active, secretive  supporters trust and notorious bedfellows of a succession of land grabbing outsiders..
Claim back our club.. Thomas the belittler out.
Or is it just me at the top of the hill next home game?

Is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnJ-Uc8qQaE


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 01, 2018, 21:14:35 pm
Why don't you read the Trust statement in the NTFC Supporters section to see the trust are not secretive, the members who met KT did so on Thursday afternoon meaning time off work, at their own expense, when was the last time you did anything apart from moan. Could you please explain how the Trust are "notorious bedfellows of a succession of land grabbing outsiders" and, when you post, make sure you can back it up with facts. Have a nice time on the hill  :-*
I was informed via a fellow trust member on face book as to my ignorance of recent events.. I doubt what he told me is on the page you refer to?
How about informing Thomas and co to meet after 6pm as you guys work?
I would rather stand a top of the Sixfields hill with 50p Lill than watch the belittlers spoon you to an inch of your life.. wake up ..open up.. put our football club first.
Who is joining me and Lill on the hill?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on April 01, 2018, 21:52:23 pm
I was informed via a fellow trust member on face book as to my ignorance of recent events.. I doubt what he told me is on the page you refer to?
How about informing Thomas and co to meet after 6pm as you guys work?
I would rather stand a top of the Sixfields hill with 50p Lill than watch the belittlers spoon you to an inch of your life.. wake up ..open up.. put our football club first.
Who is joining me and Lill on the hill?


That has to be your most ridiculous statement ever and considering some of the shít you've posted in the past that is a major accomplishment.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 01, 2018, 22:03:28 pm
That has to be your most ridiculous statement ever and considering some of the shŪt you've posted in the past that is a major accomplishment.
Evening Sing....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 02, 2018, 00:04:56 am
The players donít believe in the manager , the fans donít believe in the players and the and the manager doesnít believe in the fans .
Itís a viscous circle that has ended up with us being by far the worst team in the division.
Whatís gone wrong ?
It stems from the managers arrogance and the culture he has cultivated .
He persists with inept tactics and formations , baffling everyone except the opposition to whom we are a soft touch every week.
There is also a complete lack of strong leaders and players with bottle in that changing room .
The fans deserve more and the boos he was given months ago were justified


The problem is - and has been for months - Jimmy's brand of handbrake football. It has stifled the players to such a degree they no longer have the confidence to express themselves - even if the manager had the bottle to set us up offensively and loose the reins. It is his safety first mentality, and tactical ineptitude, which is turning this season into a mockery.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shadowstorm on April 02, 2018, 12:41:07 pm
Wimbledon and Walsall games called of so they will go 2 games in hand over us. This puts even more pressure on us to win.  :(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 02, 2018, 13:21:50 pm
Wimbledon and Walsall games called of so they will go 2 games in hand over us. This puts even more pressure on us to win.  :(

A shame we can't get a postponement due to incompetence.   >:D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 02, 2018, 13:43:58 pm
EddieEddie where art thou Eddie


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shadowstorm on April 02, 2018, 13:54:32 pm
A shame we can't get a postponement due to incompetence.   >:D
lol that is so funny, yet, so true!  ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 16:30:27 pm
Really doesn't matter what others do any more...there's just not enough time for us to get anywhere near what we need.  :(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 17:05:09 pm
Games are running out....still mathematically possible but we need at least three wins and a draw from the last 5.
Still only two points from safety but the others have two or three games in hand. Plus Rochdale two points behind with four games in hand.

Looks like we are doomed, along with bury and probably the Dongs too. The last spot is anyoneís.

Look at Fleetwood now...bring a new manager in, 4 wins in a row....mid table on 51 points with still 6 games left. Inspired appointment by their chairman!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 02, 2018, 17:29:00 pm
We don't even know who our chairman is FFS


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: memyhead on April 02, 2018, 18:11:45 pm
Let's stop clutching at straws, we are deservedly going down, and it's been on the card for weeks...

No rush to get a new manager in, just need to get JFH out now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 02, 2018, 18:22:33 pm
We don't even know who our chairman is FFS

Wrong.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 02, 2018, 18:26:26 pm
Wrong.
I hope your right that KT is in charge.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 02, 2018, 18:28:32 pm
I hope your right that KT is in charge.

He is.

Not saying that is a good thing!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 02, 2018, 18:29:47 pm
He is.

Not saying that is a good thing!
Better than the alternative though mate.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 21:20:37 pm
After this afternoons games......

16. Blackpool 47*  (-6)      H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham                    Odds to go down 22/1
17. Poxford 46**  (-6)       H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn      Odds 11/2
18. Walsall  44**  ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood        Odds 11/4
19. Oldham 43***  (-14)   A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   Odds 9/2
20. Wombles 42**   (-13)    A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury   Odds 6/4
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Dongs 42 *      (-14)    A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury    Odds 1/4
22. Cobblers 40     (-33)    A v Blackpool, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham    Odds 1/16
23. Dale 38 ****    (-8)    A v Bury, H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton  Odds 13/8
24. Bury 30**       (-27)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon   Odds 1/2000

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 02, 2018, 21:24:55 pm
Us and Bury are done our games and GD have screwed us.

The other 2 spots could be anyone's but I would love the Dongs and Poxford to come down.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 21:42:15 pm
Coming up......

Tuesday 3rd

BURY  V  ROCHDALE

Saturday 7th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Sconthorpe United
BLACKPOOL  v  Bradford City
OXFORD UNITED  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
ROCHDALE  v  Portsmouth
WALSALL  v  BURY
Wigan Athletic  v  MK DONS

Tuesday 10th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Charlton Athletic
BLACKPOOL   v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
GILLINGHAM  v  Blackburn Rovers
OXFORD UNITED  v  Fleetwood Town
ROCHDALE  v  Wigan Athletic

Wednesday 11th

OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  WALSALL


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 21:43:24 pm
Is anyone else now thinking..."well maybe..." ...?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 02, 2018, 21:50:16 pm
5 games to go.  5 wins.

We have the players who can do this.

My only question..... are they fit enough physically & mentally to take the fight to the opposition?

I hope the mentality has not become so ingrained that they sit back and wait to see what the opposition do......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 21:54:44 pm
Was just looking and thinking that we could pull Blackpool in if they lose at the weekend and then we beat them. Same deal with Walsall. Huge ask but at least we have an ounce of hope.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 21:56:07 pm
Thats the way to look at it!!

5 wins we know we're safe
4 wins we should be safe
3 wins may be enough......with at least a draw too.
2 wins may be enough as long as we draw the other three
1 win is not enough
0 wins is certainly not enough!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 21:57:32 pm
I don't think three is enough with all the games in hand others have.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 22:04:46 pm
There are so many 6 pointers left its too tough to work out!!

We still have Blackpool, Walsall, Bury and Oldham left......all of whom we could still finish above.

Rochdale have 4 games in hand but more difficult fixtures left.....we still have 4 of the bottom 9 in our last 5 games, they only have 3 of the bottom 9 in their last 9 games.

Oldham have FIVE of the bottom 8.......The Wombles have three but the Dongs have none!!

Given that Bury are pretty much down, we need to finish above three others.....its hard to pick which three.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 22:16:59 pm
https://thefishy.co.uk/calculator0.php?Competition=3



Have a go!! I had us in 22nd...three points short!! Down with Rochdale, MK and Bury.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 22:25:51 pm
https://thefishy.co.uk/calculator0.php?Competition=3



Have a go!! I had us in 22nd...three points short!! Down with Rochdale, MK and Bury.

I have us in 21st and going down on goal difference along with the same three as yours.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 02, 2018, 22:26:44 pm
https://thefishy.co.uk/calculator0.php?Competition=3



Have a go!! I had us in 22nd...three points short!! Down with Rochdale, MK and Bury.

I have us promoted in 3rd place.  Have I done something wrong?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 22:27:41 pm
I have us promoted in 3rd place.  Have I done something wrong?

Erm.....have you moved us to the New Meadow???


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on April 02, 2018, 22:28:56 pm
I have us promoted in 3rd place.  Have I done something wrong?

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 02, 2018, 22:29:29 pm
I have us promoted in 3rd place.  Have I done something wrong?

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 02, 2018, 22:39:37 pm
Erm.....have you moved us to the New Meadow???

I think that comment needs to be in the "Redevelopment" thread....   >:D

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vince Planner on April 02, 2018, 23:10:15 pm
Iíve got us staying up; Nurse.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2018, 23:13:45 pm
Iíve got us staying up; Nurse.

Now take the Claret tinted specs off and do it again!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 03, 2018, 09:50:55 am
I am starting to wonder if relegation is in our best interests.

History shows we're a League Two club - and our finances, infrastructure and fanbase usually allows us to be a 'top end' side too. Two seasons watching us struggle to compete against teams so vastly advanced than our selves has me craving being the a 'bigger fish' again.

If we manage to stay up by some exciting miracle... I am almost certain our saviours will be sacked before Christmas with a new manager brought in for some further fire fighting.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 03, 2018, 10:46:45 am
I am starting to wonder if relegation is in our best interests.

History shows we're a League Two club - and our finances, infrastructure and fanbase usually allows us to be a 'top end' side too. Two seasons watching us struggle to compete against teams so vastly advanced than our selves has me craving being the a 'bigger fish' again.

If we manage to stay up by some exciting miracle... I am almost certain our saviours will be sacked before Christmas with a new manager brought in for some further fire fighting.



In our history haven't we spent slightly more in league one than league two? If this is the case then History suggests our level is League One.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 03, 2018, 11:48:02 am
In our history haven't we spent slightly more in league one than league two? If this is the case then History suggests our level is League One.



I'm not sure, I only really started going in the mid 90's... and we've been rarely anything more than basement in that time period. In the past couple decades it really does seem like we struggle whenever we get to this level.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 03, 2018, 11:53:54 am
I'm sat at work bored out of my brain so just looked it up (only on Wikipedia though so not sure how accurate)

1 season in the top flight
2 in the Championship
54 in league one - if Div 3 south is included
33 in league two



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 03, 2018, 11:56:19 am
I'm not sure, I only really started going in the mid 90's... and we've been rarely anything more than basement in that time period. In the past couple decades it really does seem like we struggle whenever we get to this level.

I think this season and last most of our problems have/are self inflicted.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 03, 2018, 12:09:53 pm
I think this season and last most of our problems have/are self inflicted.

Absolutely. **** shambles from the minute Wilder walked out the door.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 03, 2018, 12:27:08 pm
I've no issue with us going down, I think it could be a benefit in the long run - it will all hinge on appointing the RIGHT manager though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 03, 2018, 12:29:38 pm
I'm sat at work bored out of my brain so just looked it up (only on Wikipedia though so not sure how accurate)

1 season in the top flight
2 in the Championship
54 in league one - if Div 3 south is included
33 in league two

I think this probably demonstrates how poor the Sixfields era has been if we've been performing below average consistently since we moved in. In my era watching, the entertainment seems to deteriorate once we get to this level.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 03, 2018, 12:54:52 pm
Since we moved to Sixfields I make it,

14 Seasons in League 2
10 Seasons in League 1.

Worryingly though looking at our league one finishes they have been;

4, 22, 18, 20, 24, 14, 9, 21, 16.

Only two top half finishes makes for grim reading.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 03, 2018, 13:01:51 pm
Since we moved to Sixfields I make it,

14 Seasons in League 2
10 Seasons in League 1.

Worryingly though looking at our league one finishes they have been;

4, 22, 18, 20, 24, 14, 9, 21, 16.

Only two top half finishes makes for grim reading.



How about the past 40 years as I am pretty confident that in my supporting lifetime we've spent a fair bit longer in Div 4/3/2 whatever you want to call it? I know I waited from 1978 to 1986 for the first promotion. Sixfields may be a golden era by comparison!
My perception is that we get a nose bleed when we reach the dizzy heights of League 1.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 03, 2018, 13:25:21 pm
Your memory is not betraying you.

Since we got relegated from Division 2 in 1966 - 1967 - I didn't know where to start from until the move to Sixfields it was;

6 seasons in League 1
20 seasons in League 2.

This backs up the obvious, that the move to Sixfields had a huge positive impact.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 03, 2018, 19:38:00 pm
I really hope we are still clinging on when we play away at Walsall.
Even better finishing off the season at a packed out Sixfields needing a win and probably needing a couple of results go our way.
Away games at Blackpool and Bury  will finish or reignite the hope.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 19:44:08 pm
The big match tonight is just about to kick off. 

Are you all on the edge of your seats like me?  Or, is it just me that has a chair full of animals trying to unseat me?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 20:19:50 pm
Rochdale take the lead.....   :(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on April 03, 2018, 20:23:23 pm
oops...23rd!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 20:30:30 pm
Burger..... 2nd goal to Rochdale....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 03, 2018, 20:41:14 pm
We saw they were a decent team when they came and played us......slowly picking up points, a few wins and draws...pretty much mid-table form. They were 11 points behind us two months ago.......

Just looked at the table and saw that only the top three and Doncaster have conceded fewer goals than The Dale......I fancy them to escape.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 20:58:21 pm
We saw they were a decent team when they came and played us......slowly picking up points, a few wins and draws...pretty much mid-table form. They were 11 points behind us two months ago.......

Just looked at the table and saw that only the top three and Doncaster have conceded fewer goals than The Dale......I fancy them to escape.


I agree.  They are in a very false position.

They are currently all over Bury - as in looking for their 3rd goal, not wandering aimlessly around the town centre.  Obviously, they regard attack as the best form of defence.....  :)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on April 03, 2018, 21:02:55 pm
 We can only hope that Walsall, Oldham, Wombles and the Dongs donít pick up form. Rochdale have it in them to get out of trouble!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:05:35 pm
Bury starting to get back into it.....  It's soooooo exciting being a Cobblers fan when we're not playing....   >:D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 03, 2018, 21:06:28 pm
I agree.  They are in a very false position.

They are currently all over Bury - as in looking for their 3rd goal, not wandering aimlessly around the town centre.  Obviously, they regard attack as the best form of defence.....  :)

Maybe they get two slices of pizza each if they win!! ;-)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:07:46 pm
Bury win a Pen......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:08:35 pm
Bury win a Pen......

.....and miss.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 03, 2018, 21:09:44 pm
4628 in attendance.....1,540 of them from 7 miles down the road!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lambretta on April 03, 2018, 21:11:38 pm
We have a run of winnable games, but having scored the second least goals (behind Bury) and conceded the most, how do those teams perceive us? They must be up for beating us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:12:29 pm
4628 in attendance.....1,540 of them from 7 miles down the road!!

So, all their fans went, then????   ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:13:30 pm
'kin 'ell.... 'Dale win their 8th (EIGHTH) Corner.....   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:23:52 pm
Bury trying to build up a head of steam, and making their last throw of the dice.....    15 mins left....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on April 03, 2018, 21:29:03 pm
We have a run of winnable games, but having scored the second least goals (behind Bury) and conceded the most, how do those teams perceive us? They must be up for beating us.

We don't have winnable games, we've not won in 9. Can't see where we get two or three wins from tbh.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:30:59 pm
Maybe they get two slices of pizza each if they win!! ;-)

BlackPudding, shurely?   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lambretta on April 03, 2018, 21:37:28 pm
We don't have winnable games, we've not won in 9. Can't see where we get two or three wins from tbh.
Winnable based on already beating Walsall and Blackpool, and Bury nailing their coffin up early. But yes, recent form doesn't suggest we'll pick up points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:39:43 pm
2-0 Rochdale Final Score


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:42:03 pm
Considering this was a "Must Win" game and a local Derby, I must say that Rochdale were head and shoulders above the task.  They had the ball in dangerous areas so many times........ and their game management when Bury tried to go for it was exceptional.  Good luck to them, and I hope they survive.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 21:43:21 pm
..... and I think the final corner count was something like 2-12 to Rochdale.  I dream of the day that Cobblers get 12 corners in a month........


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 03, 2018, 21:45:46 pm
I canít see beyond us, Bury and the two Dons for the drop.
I think Dale will pull away comfortably.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: memyhead on April 03, 2018, 21:51:03 pm
Rochdale were never going down...false position due to their cup run/postponements

Quality footballing side with a very good manager.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 03, 2018, 21:53:45 pm
After this afternoons games......

16. Blackpool 47*  (-6)      H v Bradford, H v Cobblers, H v Fleetwood, A v Gills, H v Shrews, A v Rotherham                    Odds to go down 14/1
17. Poxford 46**  (-6)       H v Oldham, H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Blackburn      Odds 5/1
18. Walsall  44**  ( -10)    H v Pompey, A v Bradford, H v Bury, A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Fleetwood        Odds  5/2
19. Oldham 43***  (-14)   A v Oxford, H v Walsall,  H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   Odds 4/1
20. Wombles 42**   (-13)    A v Donny, H v Scunny, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury   Odds 11/8
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21. Dongs 42 *      (-14)    A v Wigan, H v Donny, A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury    Odds 2/7
22. Rochdale 41 *** (-6)    H v Pompey, H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton  Odds 2/1
23. Cobblers 40     (-33)    A v Blackpool, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham    Odds 1/33
24. Bury 30**       (-27)  A v MK, A v Donny, H v Dale, A v Walsall, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon   Odds 1/10000

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Saturday 7th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Sconthorpe United
BLACKPOOL  v  Bradford City
OXFORD UNITED  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
ROCHDALE  v  Portsmouth
WALSALL  v  BURY
Wigan Athletic  v  MK DONS

Tuesday 10th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Charlton Athletic
BLACKPOOL   v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
GILLINGHAM  v  Blackburn Rovers
OXFORD UNITED  v  Fleetwood Town
ROCHDALE  v  Wigan Athletic

Wednesday 11th

OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  WALSALL



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 03, 2018, 21:57:14 pm
..... and I think the final corner count was something like 2-12 to Rochdale.  I dream of the day that Cobblers get 12 corners in a month........
Eleven according to Auntie. We had seven yesterday..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 03, 2018, 21:58:47 pm
Rochdale were never going down...false position due to their cup run/postponements

Quality footballing side with a very good manager.
Agreed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 22:00:53 pm
Eleven according to Auntie. We had seven yesterday..

Thanks for that.  It just got all so mesmerising for a while.

7 yesterday..... and then before that?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 03, 2018, 22:26:47 pm
Thanks for that.  It just got all so mesmerising for a while.

7 yesterday..... and then before that?
No idea.
Just think how many we'll need to win 2-0, when it takes seven to only lose by two.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 03, 2018, 22:35:19 pm
No idea.
Just think how many we'll need to win 2-0, when it takes seven to only lose by two.

LOL.......  I can see you a true Claret.....   ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 04, 2018, 07:24:15 am
Agreed.
Rochdale are very likely to lose there next 3, pompey wigan and posh, that will have them right back in the 5hit.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 04, 2018, 09:42:31 am
Rochdale are very likely to lose there next 3, pompey wigan and posh, that will have them right back in the 5hit.

Very likely?? You'd get a decent accumulator on them losing all three......!

I think they may draw or even beat Pompey at home.....and possibly go to Boro and grab a draw as Posh are not all that!

They've only lost one of their last 8 games.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 04, 2018, 10:12:27 am
Rochdale are very likely to lose there next 3, pompey wigan and posh, that will have them right back in the 5hit.
You might be right, I was more agreeing with the bit about them playing decent football and having a good manager.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 07, 2018, 11:08:12 am
Rochdale were never going down...false position due to their cup run/postponements

Quality footballing side with a very good manager.
I'm Putting a few pounds accumulator on the following to win..
Scunrhorpe Bradford Oxford pompey and wigan, all to win.
But leaving out walsall v Bury as I doubt bury will do anything there but bust my coupon.
It will help with the rarity of a football free Saturday and If it comes in it would be one of the best Saturday's the cobblers have had result wise this season.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:10:10 pm
Early goals for Fleetwood at Rotherham, and 2 for the Wombles at home to Scabthorpe.....

Oooops.   Just 1 for the Wombles.... 2nd disallowed.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:13:12 pm
.....and Wigan go 1-0 up against MK Dolts


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:13:57 pm
Rotherham Pen.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:18:53 pm
.... and Rochdale go 1-0 up against Portsmouth.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:20:54 pm
Blackpool 1 up against Bradford.

Not a good start for us....... (and that's without us even playing!)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 15:24:04 pm
4 points and a vastly inferior goal difference away from safety as it stands......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:25:30 pm
Rochdale 2-0.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:26:13 pm
MK Dolts now 2-0 down.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 15:27:10 pm
Blackpool 2 up


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:27:14 pm
All going Pete Tong....  False report on Rochdale, but, Blackpool now 2-0 up......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:28:58 pm
Portsmouth equalise at Rochdale.....  That's better.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:30:38 pm
Un-related, but, Mansfield getting stuffed 1-4 at home to Crewe....  Zander at CentreHalf.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 15:33:25 pm
Blackpool 3-0 up?????


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 15:34:16 pm
And we go where on Tuesday??  :o


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 15:39:59 pm
Donks pull one back.......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 07, 2018, 15:53:04 pm
Win our 5 games and we will be fine.

Nurse!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 16:50:46 pm
Walsall score late on, Wombles pegged back, Donkeys ship 5 and Blackpool score 5, Dale ahead......


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 07, 2018, 17:21:10 pm
After this afternoons games......

17. Ooxford 47*  (-6)        H v Fleetwood, H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Rochdale, A v Blackburn     
18. Walsall  47*  ( -11)      A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood       
19. Oldham 44**  (-14)    H v Walsall,  H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   
20. Wombles 42*   (-13)    A v Doncaster, H v Charlton, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury 
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21. Rochdale 42 ** (-6)    H v Wigan, A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton 
22. Dongs 42 *      (-18)    H v Doncaster,  A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury   
23. Cobblers 40     (-33)    A v Blackpool, A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham   
24. Bury 30*       (-30)    A v Donny, H v Cobblers, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon   

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Tuesday 10th

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  Charlton Athletic
Blackpool v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
GILLINGHAM  v  Blackburn Rovers
OXFORD UNITED  v  Fleetwood Town
ROCHDALE  v  Wigan Athletic

Wednesday 11th

OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  WALSALL

Saturday 14th

BURY  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
MK DONS  v  Doncaster Rovers
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Gillingham
OXFORD UNITED  v  Southend United
Peterborough  v  ROCHDALE
WALSALL  v  AFC WIMBLEDON


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 07, 2018, 17:51:11 pm
Bury, MK, Wombles and Us to go down.

Dale have a lot of home games and Oldham will win at least 3 more.

Hass should have been sacked after Rovrum to give us a chance but KT left it too late.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 07, 2018, 17:57:04 pm
Un-related, but, Mansfield getting stuffed 1-4 at home to Crewe....  Zander at CentreHalf.....

That's a pretty cruel link.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 07, 2018, 17:58:20 pm
JFH should have been sacked in December after the Oldham shambles. Dithering at the top has cost us dearly.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 07, 2018, 18:01:58 pm
Bury, MK, Wombles and Us to go down.

I still reckon Rochdale will be in the mix, they've got a tough run in.
I like your idea of Oxford taking our place but I reckon that's unlikely.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on April 07, 2018, 18:25:33 pm
I still reckon Rochdale will be in the mix, they've got a tough run in.
I like your idea of Oxford taking our place but I reckon that's unlikely.

😁


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 18:28:09 pm
That's a pretty cruel link.

Sadly, yes....  He was hauled off after the 4th went in (after just 30 minutes).  He, Anderson, Byrom & Potter seemed to have been blighted by injury since moving there.  It was one of his rare starts this season.

Maybe his legs have caught up with him (I am sure the visual representation of that will create much amusement.... ;D ;D ;D ;D )



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 07, 2018, 18:29:22 pm
And we go where on Tuesday??  :o

LOL!

They can't do another 5-0 like they did today, can they?

Please say they can't!!!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ntfc01 on April 07, 2018, 18:32:58 pm
JFH should have been sacked in December after the Oldham shambles. Dithering at the top has cost us dearly.

He was hardly going to be sacked three months after taking over was he


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 07, 2018, 18:38:14 pm
He was hardly going to be sacked three months after taking over was he

Exactly, KT should have got rid after that wretched 2-2 against Southend.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: SteveRiches on April 07, 2018, 18:47:29 pm
Sorry to say it but the club had time to get shot of Hasselbaink earlier - leaving it so late has left us needing a miracle. As well as being upset I am extremely angry!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 07, 2018, 19:39:20 pm
The link with the Chinese coming off of the board and JFH being sacked is quite a strong one. I can think of no other reason why JFH survived for so long because lets face it, he should have gone after the Rotherham game. If wed picked up 3 more points since that terrible display our chances now would be far better imo!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 07, 2018, 19:48:40 pm
Sorry to say it but the club had time to get shot of Hasselbaink earlier - leaving it so late has left us needing a miracle. As well as being upset I am extremely angry!

Exactly right, the writing was on the wall with that uninspiring display at home to Portsmouth.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Turf Claret on April 08, 2018, 11:06:22 am
I'm Putting a few pounds accumulator on the following to win..
Scunrhorpe Bradford Oxford pompey and wigan, all to win........



So that was just the one win then?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 08, 2018, 12:13:04 pm
The link with the Chinese coming off of the board and JFH being sacked is quite a strong one. I can think of no other reason why JFH survived for so long because lets face it, he should have gone after the Rotherham game. If wed picked up 3 more points since that terrible display our chances now would be far better imo!

Had the Chinese divorce not happened or happened earlier, I am very sure that JFH would have gone sooner.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on April 08, 2018, 12:48:30 pm
Agree that the timing of JFH's sacking with the exit of 5USport was no coincidence.  Perhaps the Chinese wanted a so-called big name manager for their own marketing reasons in China and if that is so it backfired spectacularly.  Both are now history and we are left with the mess and a faint hope of League 1 survival.  KT has to bear ultimate responsibility for the shambles but best to leave that subject alone until our fate is decided. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shadowstorm on April 08, 2018, 14:54:08 pm
Right now we need to all pull together and face the uphill miracle thats is 5/5 wins and saftey (if 55pts is going to be enough). Once the season is finished then and only then can the reflection and tough questions be asked and answered. We are in this together and we are the cobblers 12th man!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 08, 2018, 16:35:40 pm
Right now we need to all pull together and face the uphill miracle thats is 5/5 wins and saftey (if 55pts is going to be enough). Once the season is finished then and only then can the reflection and tough questions be asked and answered. We are in this together and we are the cobblers 12th man!

You would have thought so.  If they can beat Blackpool away then game on. Trouble is that Blackpool demolished Bradford last Saturday so getting a result there is going to be tough.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 08, 2018, 16:57:23 pm
Right now we need to all pull together and face the uphill miracle thats is 5/5 wins and saftey (if 55pts is going to be enough). Once the season is finished then and only then can the reflection and tough questions be asked and answered. We are in this together and we are the cobblers 12th man!

I agree whole-heartedly.  Well said!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblergaz59 on April 08, 2018, 17:04:55 pm
Trouble is that Blackpool demolished Bradford last Saturday so getting a result there is going to be tough.

Bradford have only picked up 5 points since the start of January. Yes,it was a convincing win but against a team nearly as out of form as we are  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 08, 2018, 17:36:18 pm
It's a big one on Tuesday. Pick up a win then we have Bury away who are worse than us so in theory we could be right back in it and have a bit of momentum.

It's always the hope that kills you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on April 08, 2018, 18:40:31 pm
It's a big one on Tuesday. Pick up a win then we have Bury away who are worse than us so in theory we could be right back in it and have a bit of momentum.

It's always the hope that kills you.

I predict a win at bury and then the old all too familiar abject defeat at Bury ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 08, 2018, 18:50:34 pm
I predict a win at bury and then the old all too familiar abject defeat at Bury ;D

Covering your bases? ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 08, 2018, 18:51:10 pm
I predict a win at bury and then the old all too familiar abject defeat at Bury ;D

Make your bloody mind up Man (or Woman)  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 08, 2018, 18:51:29 pm
You would have thought so.  If they can beat Blackpool away then game on. Trouble is that Blackpool demolished Bradford last Saturday so getting a result there is going to be tough.

That was a shocker as I had Blackpool as likely candidates to join us in the relegation fight. Let's hope it was a blip as previous results were almost as bad as ours.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 08, 2018, 18:59:57 pm
I predict a win at bury and then the old all too familiar abject defeat at Bury ;D

It's all in the capitalisation  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 08, 2018, 20:28:20 pm
There's usually a team who are all but safe on 45, 6 or 7 points needing just 1 win in the last 6 for safety but dont get one, (we did it on our last relegation) I fear (hope) oldham could be the candidates this time.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on April 09, 2018, 07:33:48 am
I predict a win at bury and then the old all too familiar abject defeat at Bury ;D

Apologies all😄 Sure you knew what I meant, win at Blackpool, lose at Bury, you heard it here first.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 09, 2018, 10:00:34 am
My honest assesment is that we now have a management team that at last speak about what is required to get us out of this position we are in and have weeded our any weak links from the squad in terms of attitude .
I think we will play with more freedom and a bit more belief .
The question is , are we good enough .
There is a chance we could get on a roll if we score first at Blackpool .
My worry is the likes of Barnett , Turnbull, Hoskins , Powell and Foley are not division 1 standard and we may not make the cut .
Itís going to take a massive effort and really come from within


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 09, 2018, 10:30:10 am
My honest assesment is that we now have a management team that at last speak about what is required to get us out of this position we are in and have weeded our any weak links from the squad in terms of attitude .
I think we will play with more freedom and a bit more belief .
The question is , are we good enough .
There is a chance we could get on a roll if we score first at Blackpool .
My worry is the likes of Barnett , Turnbull, Hoskins , Powell and Foley are not division 1 standard and we may not make the cut .
Itís going to take a massive effort and really come from within

I definitely think our squad is good enough to put out winning teams in the games we have left - and I wouldn't be concerned with including a couple from Turnbull, Hoskins , Powell and Foley in that team. The problem - for months now - is that I have been watching some decent players  on the pitch in Cobblers shirts, but on very few of those occasions have they looked anything like a team. Fingers crossed for a bit of inspired guidance - and a slice of luck.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 09, 2018, 10:57:04 am
I definitely think our squad is good enough to put out winning teams in the games we have left - and I wouldn't be concerned with including a couple from Turnbull, Hoskins , Powell and Foley in that team. The problem - for months now - is that I have been watching some decent players  on the pitch in Cobblers shirts, but on very few of those occasions have they looked anything like a team. Fingers crossed for a bit of inspired guidance - and a slice of luck.
Thatís true . We have had no pattern and there doesnít appear to be a game plan .
I just hope the new management team have had enough time to do something about that .
Itís all about attitude and self belief now .
Are the loan players really up for this and have we got the spirit required in the dressing room .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on April 09, 2018, 13:23:47 pm
Very much. It's a case of which league do you want to be playing in next season? And the answer does not include a Welsh bench in the Premirship!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 09, 2018, 19:11:22 pm

I just hope the new management team have had enough time to do something about that .


If Austin keeps us up he deserves the freedom of the town and a massive bonus. Personally canít see us getting even close but itís good to have something to cling to. Weíll probably have a better idea in 27 hours time and whether itís still Ďbusiness as usualí.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 09, 2018, 19:39:42 pm
Hasn't Dean Austin been part of the management team since he joined?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 09, 2018, 19:43:18 pm
Hasn't Dean Austin been part of the management team since he joined?

Shhhhhh....I donít think anyone has noticed. Iíd imagine heíll be on the same bus as Jimmy in a few weeks.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 09, 2018, 20:04:48 pm
Hasn't Dean Austin been part of the management team since he joined?

Yes, correct. But managers tend to say how they want their teams to play and the coaches then coach accordingly. Dean Austin may have a totally different philosophy, we shall see in the next few games I guess.   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on April 10, 2018, 08:45:38 am
Not sure Austin can keep us, though I am praying he does. He talks very well and comes across as someone who has a passion for the game, stating that you want players to play for the badge on the shirt is the sort of thing you want to hear from a manager. If we see vast improvements in the way of playing but he doesn't manage to keep us up then I would be happy for him to be given the role full time. If he keeps us up then I would love to see  him be given a chance to become the full time manager, I could be wrong but I think he could be just what we are looking for.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WasRambo on April 10, 2018, 08:56:03 am
Yes, correct. But managers tend to say how they want their teams to play and the coaches then coach accordingly. Dean Austin may have a totally different philosophy, we shall see in the next few games I guess.   

Even if he didn't have an entirely different philosophy from JFH then, he should have now.

Putting player deficiencies aside, for me DAs first test is has he learned from JFHs failings.

If he just serves up more of the same (which surely he can't/won't) then he's failed from the start


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: super-si on April 10, 2018, 09:10:45 am
If he can instill passion and commitment in the players, we will see an improvement. If he shows that he is his own man, that will be another plus. If he generally doesn't haul everyone back for corners, he gets my vote!

We have had several managers over the last few years that were big enough names and we thought they were the man to take us to higher levels. Manager egos are not a good quality. Prove that you are a leader and have the respect of the players (like Wilder). If he can do that, I'd be happy for him to stay and lead us next season - even if we are in L2.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on April 10, 2018, 09:23:39 am
A lot of positive spin soundbites coming from the club however this means nothing without performances on the pitch. The reality is we need to win every game and given our form this season I can guarantee now that won't happen. A truly miserable season however we have changes so hopefully we can have a decent summer of re-building in the hope we can hit the ground running in August in what looks like a much weaker League 2 than previous years.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 10, 2018, 16:37:11 pm
Things will become a lot clearer tonight one way or another. I've had another look and victory for us tonight as well as the other results going for us would leave things looking a whole lot healthier.

If we can just plant doubt into the other's minds ahead of their games in hand...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on April 10, 2018, 16:43:08 pm
For a doom and gloom scenario, what is the earliest we can be confirmed as relegated?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 10, 2018, 16:43:53 pm
There's usually a team who are all but safe on 45, 6 or 7 points needing just 1 win in the last 6 for safety but dont get one, (we did it on our last relegation) I fear (hope) oldham could be the candidates this time.
No...you hope it is Oxford Utd!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 10, 2018, 16:49:06 pm
For a doom and gloom scenario, what is the earliest we can be confirmed as relegated?


Difficult to say because of all the games in hand but I don't think it would officially happen until 2/3 games to go.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 10, 2018, 17:12:13 pm
Get into them!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on April 10, 2018, 17:34:33 pm
Difficult to say because of all the games in hand but I don't think it would officially happen until 2/3 games to go.

Lets hope we start with a big win tonight, and we can be safe maybe by then ourselves.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 10, 2018, 17:49:56 pm
Tonights bet,
Charlton, Northampton and wigan all away wins.
easy £92..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Travelaway on April 10, 2018, 18:10:05 pm
Tonights bet,
Charlton, Northampton and wigan all away wins.
easy £92..

23.92/1 at my bookie, did you put on £3.70 ?

Returns £92.23 inc stake.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on April 10, 2018, 18:14:06 pm
Tonights bet,
Charlton, Northampton and wigan all away wins.
easy £92..

If it is that easy why don't you stake several thousand, then you can finance your 3,000 safe standing and then get your money back from the revenue it would bring in?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 10, 2018, 19:23:06 pm
23.92/1 at my bookie, did you put on £3.70 ?

Returns £92.23 inc stake.
£5😐


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on April 10, 2018, 20:08:51 pm
Dale 0 Wigan 1 after 17 mins.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on April 10, 2018, 20:43:33 pm
AFC Dons go 1-0 up on HT


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Tabasco Kid on April 10, 2018, 21:03:12 pm
Dale 0 Wigan 2


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 10, 2018, 21:45:30 pm
LOL!

They can't do another 5-0 like they did today, can they?

Please say they can't!!!!!

They nearly did, didn't they?

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 10, 2018, 21:59:55 pm
If we're down by the Oldham game, and let's be honest it looks likely, then I suggest just going all out hostile on them. Just dogs abuse at them all.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 10, 2018, 22:00:30 pm
Feels like death by a thousand cuts. The next 4 games canít be over quick enough.
The worst Cobblers team in a couple of generations and the most expensive.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 10, 2018, 22:02:23 pm
If we're down by the Oldham game, and let's be honest it looks likely, then I suggest just going all out hostile on them. Just dogs abuse at them all.
Do you mean the Plymouth game


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 10, 2018, 22:03:56 pm
If we're down by the Oldham game, and let's be honest it looks likely, then I suggest just going all out hostile on them. Just dogs abuse at them all.

Just throw tissues at them. Thatíll show Ďem!

Revolution as opposed to evolution next season hopefully.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 10, 2018, 22:05:55 pm
Do you mean the Plymouth game
Only if I spelt Oldham wrong.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on April 10, 2018, 22:07:06 pm
If we're down by the Oldham game, and let's be honest it looks likely, then I suggest just going all out hostile on them. Just dogs abuse at them all.

I suggest we do a steward,

all turn round in our seats and look at KT and the rest of um,


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 10, 2018, 22:20:14 pm
We are down...but dragging down Oxford United will make me happy! Still have to go to Wigan and Blackburn. Thanks Fleetwood!

See you at Bury...Wealdstone away for me tomorrow evening!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 10, 2018, 22:33:50 pm
After this afternoons games......

17. Oxford 47*  (-7)        H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Rochdale, A v Blackburn     
18. Walsall  47**  ( -11)    A v Oldham, H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood
19. Wombles 46*   (-12)    A v Doncaster, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury   
20. Oldham 44***  (-14)    H v Walsall,  H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Rochdale 42 ** (-9)    A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton 
22. Dongs 42 *      (-18)    H v Doncaster,  A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury   
23. Cobblers 40     (-36)    A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham   
24. Bury 30*         (-30)    H v Cobblers, A v Doncaster, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon   

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Wednesday 11th

OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  WALSALL

Saturday 14th

BURY  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
MK DONS  v  Doncaster Rovers
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Gillingham
OXFORD UNITED  v  Southend United
Peterborough  v  ROCHDALE
WALSALL  v  AFC WIMBLEDON

Bury will be relegated if Oldham beat Walsall tomorrow. If Oldham don't win then Bury will be relegated unless they beat us and Oldham don't beat Gillingham on Saturday either.

We can not be relegated on Saturday, even if we lose to Bury, the fact Walsall are playing Wimbledon on Saturday means that they can't both pick up enough points that we can't still catch them with three wins. We could however be relegated without kicking a ball by next Tuesday night if we lose to Bury and if a number of results all go the wrong way.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 10, 2018, 23:19:00 pm
Accrington Stanley on their way up into League One. Interesting, but when they dropped out of the league in 62, who was it that replaced them?

#karma   ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The Rauldinho on April 11, 2018, 11:49:50 am
Does anyone honestly still think we have it in us to stay up?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 11, 2018, 11:58:06 am
Does anyone honestly still think we have it in us to stay up?

 ;D I would suggest this is a resounding NO


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: memyhead on April 11, 2018, 12:08:06 pm
We are absolute turd and thoroughly deserve to go down...

Cannot believe Bury are worse than our shower. They will no doubt drub us on Saturday too. Cannot see another goal let alone point for us this season

Rancid...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 11, 2018, 12:11:56 pm
Bury must be f*cking awful!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 11, 2018, 12:12:34 pm
;D I would suggest this is a resounding NO
Absolutely.. but to sow the final seeds of desperate hope, on 2 occasions this very season we have won 3 consecutive league games...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on April 11, 2018, 14:39:43 pm
Bury must be f*cking awful!

Yep, but I bet they bag a comfortable win on Saturday!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 11, 2018, 14:40:48 pm
Yep, but I bet they bag a comfortable win on Saturday!  ;D

Bury 4 Northampton 0 no doubt!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on April 11, 2018, 18:37:22 pm
If we're down by the Oldham game, and let's be honest it looks likely, then I suggest just going all out hostile on them. Just dogs abuse at them all.

I bet some people will still run on the pitch in celebration at the end of the Oldham game, which is a real shame as the players deserve to do a lap of dishonour, with mouldy fruit and veg raining down from the stands.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 11, 2018, 20:58:45 pm
Meanwhile, in other news, Oldham 1-1 Walsall after 55 minutes.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on April 11, 2018, 21:46:46 pm
Bury 4 Northampton 0 no doubt!


6-0


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 11, 2018, 22:07:39 pm
After tonight's game......

17. Walsall  48*  ( -11)    H v AFC Wimbledon, A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood
18. Oxford 47*  (-7)        H v Southend, A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Rochdale, A v Blackburn     
19. Wombles 46*   (-12)   A v Doncaster, A v Walsall, H v Oldham, A v Wigan, H v Bury   
20. Oldham 45**  (-14)    H v Gillingham, A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Rochdale 42 ** (-9)    A v Posh, H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton 
22. Dongs 42 *      (-18)    H v Doncaster,  A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury   
23. Cobblers 40     (-36)    A v Bury, H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham   
24. Bury 30*         (-30)    H v Cobblers, A v Doncaster, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon   

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Saturday 14th

BURY  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
MK DONS  v  Doncaster Rovers
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Gillingham
OXFORD UNITED  v  Southend United
Peterborough  v  ROCHDALE
WALSALL  v  AFC WIMBLEDON

Tuesday 17th

Doncaster Rovers  v  BURY
ROCHDALE  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
Wigan Athletic  v  OXFORD UNITED


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on April 11, 2018, 23:20:52 pm
Four wins from four games! No problem, we will take strength from our last four games where weíve shipped 11 & scored a bit fat **** zero !! Double doomed


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 11, 2018, 23:31:45 pm
You lot must be great fun at Christmas ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: #Frank on April 11, 2018, 23:54:20 pm
You lot must be great fun at Christmas ::)

I like to crack nuts at Christmas and watch The Two Ronnies.


Some of our players need a kick of the nuts for playing like a load of Ronnies.


As for our season.... it's goodnight from me and goodnight to it.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Turf Claret on April 12, 2018, 17:27:27 pm
You lot must be great fun at Christmas ::)

Most of "that lot" are surely being honest, truthful and realistic aren't they? They're long suffering supporters, like yourself, and are fed up of false dawns, false promises, false expectations, and....now.... have.....had......enough.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 12, 2018, 17:39:49 pm
Most of "that lot" are surely being honest, truthful and realistic aren't they? They're long suffering supporters, like yourself, and are fed up of false dawns, false promises, false expectations, and....now.... have.....had......enough.

I disagree with yr comments, your mixing up honesty etc with the Ďgive upsí! Some even use the poor form as an excuse not to go even to the home games!
TO confirm they have sold over 400 tickets. Clearly relatively few agree with you!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Turf Claret on April 12, 2018, 17:54:05 pm
I disagree with yr comments, your mixing up honesty etc with the Ďgive upsí! Some even use the poor form as an excuse not to go even to the home games!
TO confirm they have sold over 400 tickets. Clearly relatively few agree with you!

Well I have to admire your "gallows humour" at least. ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 14, 2018, 18:16:37 pm
So, its goodbye Bury, they have been relegated. A win for the Cobblers but other results going against them.
Rochdale and Oldham play each other on Tuesday......a draw would be best for us.....and with Wimbledon playing Oldham on Saturday thats another 6 pointer.

We need 48 points at least to stay up......anything less will see us relegated for sure........48 is the minimum target and thats with all other results going in our favour. If there is a winner in the Dale v Oldham game then our target goes up to 49 mathematically.

After todays games......

17. Oxford 50*  (-5)         A v Wigan, A v Donny, H v Rochdale, A v Blackburn     
18. Wombles 49*   (-11)   H v Oldham, A v Wigan, A v Doncaster, H v Bury   
19. Walsall  48*  ( -11)     A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood
20. Oldham 46**  (-14)    A v Rochdale, A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Donny, A v Cobblers   
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Rochdale 45 ** (-8)    H v Oldham, H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton 
22. Cobblers 43    (-35)    H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham 
23. Dongs 42 *      (-19)   A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury   
24. Bury 30*         (-31)  A v Doncaster, A v Shrews, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon  

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Tuesday 17th

ROCHDALE  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
Wigan Athletic  v  OXFORD UNITED

Saturday 21st

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
Doncaster Rovers  v  OXFORD UNITED
NORTHAMPTON TOWN  v  Plymouth Argyle
ROCHDALE  v  Bradford City
Scun7horpe United  v  WALSALL
Southend United  v  MK DONS

Tuesday 24th

Bradford City  v  MK DONS
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Southend United
ROCHDALE  v  Plymouth Argyle



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on April 14, 2018, 18:29:51 pm

6-0

like i said easy win today,

massive task to stay up,
need other teams to be as bad as we have been,


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on April 14, 2018, 18:38:34 pm
Good stuff GPC. I think any of the clubs down there would be unlucky to go down with 52 points.

Hope we can keep it alive with a win over Plymouth - then it really would become interesting.

There were plenty of groans on the way out of Gigg Lane when Wimbledon won it late, but taking form and remaining games into account I think Walsall look in trouble. Rochdale winning was a stinker for us, though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 14, 2018, 18:41:06 pm
like i said easy win today,

massive task to stay up,
need other teams to be as bad as we have been,

Useful idiot


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: paul thompson is on April 14, 2018, 18:43:10 pm
Useful idiot

Bless you,

when do Mummy and Daddy get home,


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 14, 2018, 20:22:33 pm
Useful idiot
You can't be both Cecil. You're either useful or an idiot..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 14, 2018, 21:09:20 pm
Lee Nicholls out for the season - MK Dons

Ian Henderson to serve 4 match ban (2nd sending off) - Rochdale

Miombe sent off (3 match ban?) - Oldham

Still a few twists and turns to come, but the pressure is still on us to win all our remaining games.






Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on April 14, 2018, 23:04:09 pm
Skybet are offering 9/1 for us to stay up. This is basically a rip off considering we are generally 1/33 to be relegated.
Punters have assumed it's us, Bury and MK for the drop and take your pick from Rochdale, Oldham, Wombles, Poxford and Walsall for the fourth spot. It looks like musical chairs for that one.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bungle on April 15, 2018, 14:03:04 pm
Still a few twists and turns to come, but the pressure is still on us to win all our remaining games.

It's a exponentially huge ask, but history would suggest that 52 points would be enough to stay up. It would rely on two of Rochdale, Wombles, Oxford, Oldham and Walsall grinding to a halt (and for MK to mess up their game in hand), but stranger things have happened and the fact that we get to play the latter two gives us a bit more control of things.

Basically, as the cliche goes, we now have three cup finals. All any of us want I think is for the team to throw the kitchen sink at every team we face in the manner of the Bury game.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 16, 2018, 00:40:29 am
Thing is there are quite a few 6 pointers to come so they can't all grind to a halt!!

Wombles have 49 points already, and you'd expect them to beat Bury at home on the last day...so thats 52 for them regardless of their other three games.

If Oldham beat Rochdale and Wimbledon that gives them 52 points regardless of their other 3 games too.

Walsall could be the ones to drop into the bottom 4.....its difficult to see where their points are coming from.....(of course we have to beat them to stand any chance anyway).

I can see Rochdale nicking a draw at Oxford and beating struggling Bradford on their own patch....so that gives them 49...

Therefore.....by the powers of my guesswork we need 50 points to stay up..... 2 wins and a draw!! No defeats allowed!!

Draw with Plymouth, win at Walsall and beat Oldham.....job done!!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on April 16, 2018, 16:04:52 pm
Thing is there are quite a few 6 pointers to come so they can't all grind to a halt!!

Wombles have 49 points already, and you'd expect them to beat Bury at home on the last day...so thats 52 for them regardless of their other three games.

If Oldham beat Rochdale and Wimbledon that gives them 52 points regardless of their other 3 games too.

Walsall could be the ones to drop into the bottom 4.....its difficult to see where their points are coming from.....(of course we have to beat them to stand any chance anyway).

I can see Rochdale nicking a draw at Oxford and beating struggling Bradford on their own patch....so that gives them 49...

Therefore.....by the powers of my guesswork we need 50 points to stay up..... 2 wins and a draw!! No defeats allowed!!

Draw with Plymouth, win at Walsall and beat Oldham.....job done!!  ;)

We won't be able to catch Wimbledon and I think now we've got to hope they beat Oldham at the weekend.

Tomorrow's match is a tricky one for us but all three options can favour us and probably not worth making predictions until after this.

9 points will only be enough if other results go our way. Our last two games are possible but this Plymouth match is going to be very tricky and really can't see us beating them.

I wonder when the analysis comes, the games where we lost points in. JJOT's penalty miss at Rochdale looking very costly now.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 16, 2018, 16:20:01 pm
We won't be able to catch Wimbledon and I think now we've got to hope they beat Oldham at the weekend.

Tomorrow's match is a tricky one for us but all three options can favour us and probably not worth making predictions until after this.

9 points will only be enough if other results go our way. Our last two games are possible but this Plymouth match is going to be very tricky and really can't see us beating them.

I wonder when the analysis comes, the games where we lost points in. JJOT's penalty miss at Rochdale looking very costly now.
I personally think his sending off against Shrewsbury was the noose around the neck for us. Not that I am blaming him or anything. If you were to take away that element of his game he wouldnít be the same player, so catch 22?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 16, 2018, 17:41:42 pm
I personally think his sending off against Shrewsbury was the noose around the neck for us. Not that I am blaming him or anything. If you were to take away that element of his game he wouldnít be the same player, so catch 22?
Plymouth have won just 7 games more than us this season, so mustn't be given too much respect and must be seen as winnable as opposed to scraping a draw.
Also Ive booked up for Walsall so I want it to be a massive meaningful game.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on April 16, 2018, 18:36:39 pm
I think we are going to do this. Us and Rochdale to be replaced by Oldham and Walsall in the bottom four.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 16, 2018, 21:47:29 pm
Plymouth have won just 7 games more than us this season, so mustn't be given too much respect and must be seen as winnable as opposed to scraping a draw.
Also Ive booked up for Walsall so I want it to be a massive meaningful game.
I still firmly believe on our day we are more than capable of beating anyone in this division. The problem has always been a lack of belief, not turning up or both? Perhaps as lowly as they are Bury may be the catalyst for the kick start, this and DA? Leicester are often cited as an example on here, but I think a startling statistic about them was the season before they won the title under Nigel Pearson. On form they were firmly bottom during the first half of the season, in the second half they were just about top and won 7 of their last 9 games to beat the drop with pretty much the same squad. In the first half of the season, when you look at the fixtures, Leicester winning 7 of their last 9 would have been viewed as the equivalent of swimming the Atlantic. Comparatively our task looks an absolute breeze, so no-one should write us off, this is do-able, difficult, but do-able.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 17, 2018, 10:37:53 am
Anything short of three wins and it's curtains. Hoping for a draw from this evening's festivities along with three red cards apiece!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 17, 2018, 11:14:03 am
Am I right in thinking an Oldham win tonight will effectively mean any loss will relegate us?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on April 17, 2018, 11:32:24 am
Am I right in thinking an Oldham win tonight will effectively mean any loss will relegate us?

Should we lose to Plymouth on Saturday:

We will be all but relegated by virtue of our goal difference if: Oldham win at Rochdale tonight OR at AFC Wimbledon on Saturday AND Walsall collect a point at Sc***horpe.

We will be officially relegated if: Oldham beat Rochdale and draw at AFC Wimbledon AND Walsall win at Sc***horpe.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on April 17, 2018, 11:37:30 am
We will be officially relegated if: Oldham beat Rochdale and draw at AFC Wimbledon AND Walsall win at Sc***horpe.

And, actually, if we DRAW with Plymouth and these other results play out we will be all but relegated.



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 17, 2018, 16:46:40 pm
WE ARE FCUKING RELEGATED


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 17, 2018, 17:01:17 pm
WE ARE FCUKING RELEGATED

You will get some stick if a miracle happens and we stay up.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 17, 2018, 17:08:20 pm
Should we lose to Plymouth on Saturday:

We will be all but relegated by virtue of our goal difference if: Oldham win at Rochdale tonight OR at AFC Wimbledon on Saturday AND Walsall collect a point at Sc***horpe.

We will be officially relegated if: Oldham beat Rochdale and draw at AFC Wimbledon AND Walsall win at Sc***horpe.

Cheers. So we're all supporting Rochdale tonight right?!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 17, 2018, 17:48:05 pm
Cheers. So we're all supporting Rochdale tonight right?!

Or a draw, surely? Keep them both in the mix.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Manwork04 on April 17, 2018, 19:09:08 pm
You will get some stick if a miracle happens and we stay up.

Happily take it mate TBH it ain't going to happen.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 17, 2018, 20:24:02 pm
Rochdale just missed a penalty.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2018, 20:31:40 pm
Im trying to work out whether a 0-0 draw or a Dale win would be better for us.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 17, 2018, 20:51:06 pm
Im trying to work out whether a 0-0 draw or a Dale win would be better for us.

A draw as it is now leaves us 4 points adrift of Oldham in 20th.
A Dale win would leave us 5 points adrift of Walsall in 20th as Rochdale would go 19th and Oldham down to 21st.
An Oldham win would leave us 5 points adrift of Walsall in 20th as Oldham would go 18th above AFC.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Grove on April 17, 2018, 21:25:09 pm
Exciting innit


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2018, 21:32:20 pm
Poxford losing


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 17, 2018, 21:40:51 pm
Dale 0-0 FT

That'll do


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 17, 2018, 21:43:31 pm
After tonights games......

17. Oxford 50  (-6)           A v Doncaster, H v Rochdale, A v Blackburn      
18. Wombles 49*   (-11)   H v Oldham, A v Wigan, A v Doncaster, H v Bury  
19. Walsall  48*  ( -11)     A v Scunny, H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood
20. Oldham 47*  (-14)      A v AFC Wimbledon, H v Southend, H v Doncaster, A v Cobblers  
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Rochdale 46 * (-8)      H v Bradford, H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton  
22. Cobblers 43    (-35)    H v Plymouth, A v Walsall, H v Oldham  
23. Dongs 42 *      (-19)   A v Southend, A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury    
24. Bury 31           (-31)   A v Shrewsbury, H v Pompey, A v AFC Wimbledon  

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Saturday 21st

AFC WIMBLEDON  v  OLDHAM ATHLETIC
Doncaster Rovers  v  OXFORD UNITED
NORTHAMPTON TOWN  v  Plymouth Argyle
ROCHDALE  v  Bradford City
Scun7horpe United  v  WALSALL
Southend United  v  MK DONS

Tuesday 24th

Bradford City  v  MK DONS
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Southend United
ROCHDALE  v  Plymouth Argyle


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: lambretta on April 17, 2018, 21:50:37 pm
If Oxford lose their next two, or only draw one, then their last game against Blackburn will be quite a task.
Maybe they're going to join the party.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: MK_Cobbler on April 17, 2018, 21:59:35 pm
If Oxford lose theie next two, or only draw one, then their last game against Blackburn will be quite a task.
Maybe they're going to join the party.

I agree, Oxford are the ones to keep an eye on...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 17, 2018, 22:25:55 pm
Doncaster (a)
Rochdale (h)
Blackburn (a)

Oxford Utd are more or less safe unfortunately...as I said weeks back, Walsall are the ones to catch!

Whilst in this area, 445 United fans at the DW tonight.

Poole Town losing tonight also means Oxford City are safe!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 17, 2018, 22:30:00 pm
Come 5pm Saturday weíll know one way or another whether there is any hope remaining. The final place however will probably go down to the wire regardless. Could be about the best or worst fixture for Oldham!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 17, 2018, 22:37:32 pm
Come 5pm Saturday weíll know one way or another whether there is any hope remaining. The final place however will probably go down to the wire regardless. Could be about the best or worst fixture for Oldham!
Glass not half full there...spilling over!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 17, 2018, 22:40:49 pm
I agree, Oxford are the ones to keep an eye on...

Oxford only come into the equation if we win all 3 of our games.....and if we win all 3 we'll probably stay up anyway!!

A few people said Walsall may be the ones to slide.....3 of their last 4 away from home.....but in reality they only need to win 1.....that's the game against us!!

If we only draw on Saturday its not the end.....but we can't then catch Oxford (goal difference), and we can't catch BOTH Oldham and Wimbledon.....only one of them as they play each other on Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bringbackbroadhurst on April 17, 2018, 22:55:55 pm
Look, Iím not for a second about to suggest weíll stay up. But thereís a bit of belief growing. It must be the same for the players and coaching staff.

Imagine if we do get that win on Saturday, then beat Walsall...yeah! Imagine how crushing itíll be to lose the last game at home to Oldham 😂


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 17, 2018, 23:02:49 pm
All I know is that if it goes to the last game v Oldham then I am going to get absolutely hammered due to the late kick off.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 17, 2018, 23:20:12 pm
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pitch-invader-attempts-attack-referee-12382275.amp?__twitter_impression=true deduct 5 points from each team


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2018, 00:51:38 am
Its all or nothing Saturday I fear.

Anything but a win and we're done



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 18, 2018, 08:43:55 am
The more you look at the table and then look at our form and ability , the harder it is to see us escape .
The crowd will get behind the side but we need a miracle .
Iím not convinced DA is convinced about Van Veen either having listened to his last interview , saying he hasnít heard from him .

   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on April 18, 2018, 08:49:41 am
There's still a chance we can stay up if we lose against Plymouth but we need two of the following three scenarios to happen (as well as us beating Walsall and Oldham):

- Walsall lose all their remaining games (Scunny A, Northampton H, Bradford A, Fleetwood A)
- Oldham pick up a maximum of 1 point from their remaining games (Wimbledon A, Southend H, Doncaster H, Northampton A)
- Rochdale pick up a maximum of 2 points from their remaining games ( Bradford H, Plymouth H, Oxford A, Charlton H)


If we draw with Plymouth then we need two of the following four scenarios to happen (as well as us beating Walsall and Oldham):

- Wimbledon lose all their remaining games (Oldham H, Wigan A, Doncaster A, Bury H)
- Walsall pick up a maximum of 1 point from their remaining games (not against us) (Scunny A, Northampton H, Bradford A, Fleetwood A)
- Oldham pick up a maximum of 2 points from their remaining games (not against us) (Wimbledon A, Southend H, Doncaster H, Northampton A)
- Rochdale pick up a maximum of 3 points from their remaining games ( Bradford H, Plymouth H, Oxford A, Charlton H)


A win against Plymouth and it's all to play for.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 18, 2018, 10:01:57 am
There's still a chance we can stay up if we lose against Plymouth but we need two of the following three scenarios to happen (as well as us beating Walsall and Oldham):

- Walsall lose all their remaining games (Scunny A, Northampton H, Bradford A, Fleetwood A)
- Oldham pick up a maximum of 1 point from their remaining games (Wimbledon A, Southend H, Doncaster H, Northampton A)
- Rochdale pick up a maximum of 2 points from their remaining games ( Bradford H, Plymouth H, Oxford A, Charlton H)


If we draw with Plymouth then we need two of the following four scenarios to happen (as well as us beating Walsall and Oldham):

- Wimbledon lose all their remaining games (Oldham H, Wigan A, Doncaster A, Bury H)
- Walsall pick up a maximum of 1 point from their remaining games (not against us) (Scunny A, Northampton H, Bradford A, Fleetwood A)
- Oldham pick up a maximum of 2 points from their remaining games (not against us) (Wimbledon A, Southend H, Doncaster H, Northampton A)
- Rochdale pick up a maximum of 3 points from their remaining games ( Bradford H, Plymouth H, Oxford A, Charlton H)


A win against Plymouth and it's all to play for.
Thanks for that breakdown - itís really useful !
So really , we have to win all three games unless one of the others has a real wobble


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 18, 2018, 10:09:52 am
Said it before but I really see no way out unless we win all three...it's too much to ask for everything else to go our way.

Encouraging results though and it's nice to see the games in hand being used up. I'm hoping for a Wimbledon win over Oldham and Walsall also losing to Scunny. We have to target those two rather than look at Wimbledon or Oxford, especially as we play them both. For now anyway!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: EssTeeFree on April 18, 2018, 10:12:38 am
I can't help but think we're all getting a bit over optimistic after just about beating the worst team in the league but I guess it is nice to have some hope, even for a while.

The below link on Experimental 361 is a good breakdown of what can still happen and the likelihood of each outcome, it really will be an astonishing escape if we pull this off.

https://experimental361.com/2018/04/17/whats-still-possible-17-april-2018

Note: This was done before last nights games, although I can't imagine it will have changed hugely


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Saint Cobbler on April 18, 2018, 10:49:30 am
I can't help but think we're all getting a bit over optimistic after just about beating the worst team in the league but I guess it is nice to have some hope, even for a while.

The below link on Experimental 361 is a good breakdown of what can still happen and the likelihood of each outcome, it really will be an astonishing escape if we pull this off.

https://experimental361.com/2018/04/17/whats-still-possible-17-april-2018

Note: This was done before last nights games, although I can't imagine it will have changed hugely
Agreed, they always say it's hope that kills you. We have the following against us, just stating the obvious.
We hardly ever manage to win.
Our goals difference is atrocious.
Most of the other candidates for relegation manage to pull off the odd win or two.
We've played more games than everyone else.

We're down folks, but yes lets give it all to support the lads on Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 18, 2018, 11:43:59 am
Its very hard to put across a case for us being in a false position so I wont because were not, but on paper we have some decent players 1 to 11,  not world beaters but good solid pros who should have enough about them to scrape the 3 wins required.
We have to hope they collectively find form and a system that scrapes is over the line.
I can just about accept glorious failure but not going fown with out a fight.
My prediction is..
Relegated on goal difference.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 18, 2018, 11:47:43 am
We might as well throw caution to the wind now...it's all or nothing and I just want us to keep the chance of staying up going for a few more days at a time!

That gap to Oldham closing is crucial and if we close it to 2 points by the final day it sets up a huge game.

Speaking of which, am I right in saying that Sky will televise some of the last round of games? If the top two and playoffs are sorted and we're in the above position is there the outside chance of getting on?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 18, 2018, 14:40:12 pm
We might as well throw caution to the wind now...it's all or nothing and I just want us to keep the chance of staying up going for a few more days at a time!

That gap to Oldham closing is crucial and if we close it to 2 points by the final day it sets up a huge game.

Speaking of which, am I right in saying that Sky will televise some of the last round of games? If the top two and playoffs are sorted and we're in the above position is there the outside chance of getting on?
Blackburn Rovers v Oxford United
As far as I know, the above is the chosen SKY live game.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: threeinabed on April 18, 2018, 14:50:22 pm
My prediction is..
Relegated on goal difference.


see, your not as bitter and twisted as everyone thinks................my prediction is 3 defeats.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2487 on April 18, 2018, 15:02:35 pm
We'll take it to the last game v Oldham and then get relegated. It's the Cobblers way.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 18, 2018, 15:21:48 pm
We'll take it to the last game v Oldham and then get relegated. It's the Cobblers way.
1-2 KVV 96th min OG to send us down V Oldham


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 18, 2018, 15:59:48 pm
The home games against Gillingham , Oxford , Rotherham and Rochdale were the turning points .
The inept , spineless performances deserved all the criticism they got and much more .
JFH seemed to think they were unjustified along with some happy clappers on here , but those games have sent us into the trouble we are in .
Fleetwood away was also pathetic .
All of these games followed the big money signings that were total flops from beginning to end .
The booing was justified , even though I didnít participate personally


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 18, 2018, 19:12:22 pm
The home games against Gillingham , Oxford , Rotherham and Rochdale were the turning points .
The inept , spineless performances deserved all the criticism they got and much more .
JFH seemed to think they were unjustified along with some happy clappers on here , but those games have sent us into the trouble we are in .
Fleetwood away was also pathetic .
All of these games followed the big money signings that were total flops from beginning to end .
The booing was justified , even though I didnít participate personally
I'd say it started with a shockingly inept performance ending in a last minute defeat at the Greenhous...those pathetic orange shirts must shoulder a fair proportion of the blame!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Cobblersmad on April 18, 2018, 19:49:32 pm
Come on everyone, where's the spirit of 2014????? After the last minute Wimbledon goal that made it 2-2 in March that season I thought that was it. I thought we were dead and buried, but then we beat Burton, beat Dagenham, beat Oxford, and survived.
We haven't had much luck this season, but I honestly believe we got a huge slice of it with the game last night ending with a draw. Seeing as we play both Walsall and Oldham, I don't think we should be giving up just yet.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Buster on April 18, 2018, 20:12:50 pm
The home games against Gillingham , Oxford , Rotherham and Rochdale were the turning points .

 

with that many turning points we're going round in circles...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 18, 2018, 20:34:28 pm
Come on everyone, where's the spirit of 2014????? After the last minute Wimbledon goal that made it 2-2 in March that season I thought that was it. I thought we were dead and buried, but then we beat Burton, beat Dagenham, beat Oxford, and survived.
We haven't had much luck this season, but I honestly believe we got a huge slice of it with the game last night ending with a draw. Seeing as we play both Walsall and Oldham, I don't think we should be giving up just yet.
The problem is , the players haven't got the spirit of 2014 and so neither have the supporters


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 18, 2018, 20:45:36 pm
Unfortunately I think the spirit of 2014 can be found on the bench at bramhall lane.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: goatspicy on April 18, 2018, 20:56:43 pm
I think you're right sadly


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 18, 2018, 22:07:26 pm
I think you're right sadly


Well, I don't - it beats me how some of you, generally it's the select few; come on here to whine & moan whenever you have the chance. Some of you have the audacity to serve it up as an opinion. Even worse are those who state they are merely pointing out the obvious and are curiously adapt in using the royal 'we' as if they speak for one and all. From last Saturday we have been given a slender piece of hope - is it too much to ask to give the negativity a rest at least until 5pm Saturday.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 18, 2018, 22:36:45 pm
Well, I don't - it beats me how some of you, generally it's the select few; come on here to whine & moan whenever you have the chance. Some of you have the audacity to serve it up as an opinion. Even worse are those who state they are merely pointing out the obvious and are curiously adapt in using the royal 'we' as if they speak for one and all. From last Saturday we have been given a slender piece of hope - is it too much to ask to give the negativity a rest at least until 5pm Saturday.

Aren't you being very negative about your fellow posters on here Nevers?  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 18, 2018, 22:41:00 pm

If we draw with Plymouth then we need two of the following four scenarios to happen (as well as us beating Walsall and Oldham):

- Wimbledon lose all their remaining games (Oldham H, Wigan A, Doncaster A, Bury H)
- Walsall pick up a maximum of 1 point from their remaining games (not against us) (Scunny A, Northampton H, Bradford A, Fleetwood A)
- Oldham pick up a maximum of 2 points from their remaining games (not against us) (Wimbledon A, Southend H, Doncaster H, Northampton A)
- Rochdale pick up a maximum of 3 points from their remaining games ( Bradford H, Plymouth H, Oxford A, Charlton H)


A win against Plymouth and it's all to play for.

Agreed a win and its all to play for...as long as the others don't win too!!

Just on the above though...its really needing two from three out of four scenarios.....as Wimbledon can't lose all their games and Oldham pick up a maximum of two points.

If Wimbledon do lose all their games then Oldham have beaten them and therefore got at least three points!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 18, 2018, 22:45:27 pm
Aren't you being very negative about your fellow posters on here Nevers?  ;)

I said a few not all - pretty negative comment from you. If the hat fits...................


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 18, 2018, 23:04:45 pm
Well, I don't - it beats me how some of you, generally it's the select few; come on here to whine & moan whenever you have the chance. Some of you have the audacity to serve it up as an opinion. Even worse are those who state they are merely pointing out the obvious and are curiously adapt in using the royal 'we' as if they speak for one and all. From last Saturday we have been given a slender piece of hope - is it too much to ask to give the negativity a rest at least until 5pm Saturday.

Just for once in your life nevers get your head out of the clouds and look at reality!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 18, 2018, 23:48:40 pm
I can't help but think we're all getting a bit over optimistic after just about beating the worst team in the league but I guess it is nice to have some hope, even for a while.

The below link on Experimental 361 is a good breakdown of what can still happen and the likelihood of each outcome, it really will be an astonishing escape if we pull this off.

https://experimental361.com/2018/04/17/whats-still-possible-17-april-2018

Note: This was done before last nights games, although I can't imagine it will have changed hugely

Strange comment by you as there are several on here who have no hope at all I doubt too many are getting carried away by a slightly lucky win at Bury!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 19, 2018, 07:54:57 am

A win against Plymouth and it's all to play for.

Glad I've already got my ticket for Walsall...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on April 19, 2018, 08:11:06 am
I've done a relegation predictor based on the remaining games and it doesn't look good for us or MK Dons as we are set to join Bury.

As for the other, Dale didn't survive. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Battery Man on April 19, 2018, 08:56:20 am
I was feeling positive when I did the predictor this morning and we survived on 52 points and Oldham and Walsall went down with Bury and the Franchise.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 19, 2018, 14:38:14 pm
I've done a relegation predictor based on the remaining games and it doesn't look good for us or MK Dons as we are set to join Bury.

As for the other, Dale didn't survive. 
Try it again but put us as winning our remaining 3 games...Looks much better😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on April 19, 2018, 17:59:23 pm
An offer for ST holders to buy a second ticket for only £5
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2018/april/walsall_offer/


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 19, 2018, 18:03:16 pm
I've done a relegation predictor based on the remaining games and it doesn't look good for us or MK Dons as we are set to join Bury.

As for the other, Dale didn't survive. 
I don't think a predictor formula is required to reach such a conclusion!

Will Smith's fav Stone Roses number 'I am the Resurrection's or maybe some s***e from Status Quo will be ringing in our ears!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Zen Master on April 19, 2018, 20:16:58 pm
I was aiming for the House of Pain - Same As It Ever Was.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 19, 2018, 21:16:00 pm
Bright Eyes...Watership Down!  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 19, 2018, 23:51:56 pm
I really fear the worst in this game .
We are so fragile and they are really up for it .
If we go a goal down early , we could collapse .
We need the really strong characters in this match and no shrinking violets .
Outside of JJOT , Buchs , Taylor , and possibly Crooks and Barnett , Iím not sure who they are .
I do know DA and JB are strong men themselves and hopefully this will influence the rest of the team .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 20, 2018, 00:16:34 am
I don't think a predictor formula is required to reach such a conclusion!

Will Smith's fav Stone Roses number 'I am the Resurrection's or maybe some s***e from Status Quo will be ringing in our ears!

Beginning of the End...?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwi-go_2u8faAhVpAcAKHTA3AwwQ8DUINjAB&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 20, 2018, 00:54:33 am
I have done the predictor and my four to go Bury (32), us (46), MK Plastics (48), The Real Dons (50). With Walsall and Oxford staying up on 50 on goal difference, Rochdale (51), Oldham (54)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2018, 11:24:33 am
I have done the predictor and my four to go Bury (32), us (46), MK Plastics (48), The Real Dons (50). With Walsall and Oxford staying up on 50 on goal difference, Rochdale (51), Oldham (54)

Surprised you had to do one - your problem will be if all this goes belly up for you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 20, 2018, 12:27:32 pm
Beginning of the End...?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwi-go_2u8faAhVpAcAKHTA3AwwQ8DUINjAB&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov
Canít get the link to work cutters?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 20, 2018, 13:13:45 pm
If these boys get a win tomorrow and another win by the end of the season , even if we go down - I would give them the job.
We do need some kind of consistency and I would support them


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 20, 2018, 13:32:47 pm
Surprised you had to do one - your problem will be if all this goes belly up for you.

Why would it be a problem Cecelia?

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2018, 13:50:58 pm
Why would it be a problem Cecelia?

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong!

You would not be delighted; you would include a few buts and ifs. Why always the insults/abuse on most of your messages?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 20, 2018, 14:47:36 pm
Why always the insults/abuse on most of your messages?

I along with half of the members of this forum could ask you that very question.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 20, 2018, 17:09:09 pm
I along with half of the members of this forum could ask you that very question.

Please give me examples of abuse I have offered others? Say since Jan 2018?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: eddieeddie on April 21, 2018, 07:06:19 am
I along with half of the members of this forum could ask you that very question.

 ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on April 21, 2018, 07:22:19 am
Please give me examples of abuse I have offered others? Say since Jan 2018?

You are very rude to a lot of people. You may not swear or resort to name calling but you've turned passive aggression into an art form.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 21, 2018, 07:55:40 am
Please give me examples of abuse I have offered others? Say since Jan 2018?

Do you want them broken down in daily or hourly examples??

😂


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: craigwest on April 21, 2018, 09:50:07 am
Experimental 3-6-1 website includes a great visualisation of what's still possible.

https://experimental361.com/2018/04/17/whats-still-possible-17-april-2018/

(https://experimental361.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/2018-04-17-l1.png?w=520)

Mathematically we could still get to 16th, but the probability of avoiding relegation is becoming difficult to see with the naked eye.

Incredible that there are still six teams who *could* still be either promoted or relegated!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 21, 2018, 17:44:46 pm
Right, next up Oldham at home to Southend on Tuesday night...another mid-week nerve fest!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 21, 2018, 17:48:18 pm
Couldn't have asked for a better set of results today really!!
Oxford made themselves safe with victory at Doncaster so fall off our stats....Bury are gone and MK look set to join them....two from five for the last places in the basement.


After todays games......
    
18. Wombles 50*   (-11)   A v Wigan, A v Doncaster, H v Bury  
19. Walsall  48*  ( -12)     H v Cobblers, A v Bradford, A v Fleetwood
20. Oldham 47*  (-14)      H v Southend, H v Doncaster, A v Cobblers  
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
21. Rochdale 47 * (-8)      H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton  
22. Cobblers 46    (-33)    A v Walsall, H v Oldham  
23. Dongs 42 *      (-23)   A v Bradford, H v Scunny, A v Shrewsbury    
24. Bury 32           (-31)   H v Portsmouth, A v AFC Wimbledon  

(GD in brackets)

* = games in hand

Coming up......

Tuesday 24th

Bradford City  v  MK DONS
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Southend United
ROCHDALE  v  Plymouth Argyle

Saturday 28th

MK DONS  v  Scunnythorpe United
OLDHAM ATHLETIC  v  Doncaster Rovers
Oxford United  v  ROCHDALE
WALSALL  v  NORTHAMPTON TOWN
Wigan Athletic  v  AFC WIMBLEDON


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on April 21, 2018, 17:50:41 pm
Is it time to start believing yet?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 21, 2018, 17:55:19 pm
Is it time to start believing yet?

Think the Dons are gone......i'll believe after Tuesday should Rochdale and Oldham not win their games in hand. Rochdale at home to Plymouth worries me...the Pilgrims looked dross today!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 21, 2018, 17:57:20 pm
I like to think of it that surely Plymouth can't be as bad as that again. At this stage I'd even take Rochdale drawing that one to keep them well in the mix.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 21, 2018, 17:58:48 pm
If MK, Dale and Oldham win Tuesday we're pretty much down..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: singcobb on April 21, 2018, 18:47:11 pm
I think us and Dale will be replaced by Oldham and Walsall. Dale are a sure bet to stay up and I think there is a flicker of belief in the team and the fans that we can do this. It is going to go to the last game, but we will win it with a JJOT 93rd minute winner.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Macc Cobbler on April 21, 2018, 19:41:25 pm
Amended as table above, Oldham actually have 48 points.

If we beat Walsall and Oldham then to finish above us:

Rochdale need five points from three games
Oldham need four points from two games .
Walsall need four points from two games .... Both away
Wimbledon need two points from three games
Dongs cannot overtake us

We can still do this !


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 21, 2018, 20:03:30 pm
Do you want them broken down in daily or hourly examples??

😂

Don't play evasive games, you made an accusation so just supply the proof. You seem very confident. Its just a cut and paste job. I will give you a starter; have exchanged pleasantries with Dr Feelgood. In fact to make it even easier just concentrate from March '18 onward.
Best of luck ::)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 21, 2018, 20:04:21 pm
Our route to survival is simple.

1. We win our last 2 games.
2. Hope that either Walsall or Oldham lose one of there other 2 games.

ORÖ

We win our last 2 gamesÖand hope that Rochdale or Wimbledon implode!

i don't know what the odds on us surviving are but Id say its gone from 1% before Bury to 3% after Bury to 5% after Tuesdays games to 20% at this point in time!



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 21, 2018, 20:15:57 pm
Let's hope that Southend take their form from today into tuesday's match with Oldham and pray that Plymouth get a rocket from Adams and that Ryan Taylor is back fit against Rochdale.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 21, 2018, 20:27:53 pm
If (and it's a big if) we win out two the rest will take care of itself!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Poggy on April 21, 2018, 20:45:50 pm
The draws today for AFCW and Dale keep them in the mix.

The bad thing is that it is out of our hands but if some results go our way and we win our last two we have a chance


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 21, 2018, 21:08:40 pm
When is the last time we won 4 on the trot?
How incredible it would be, totally erasing the nightmare of Dumb and Dumber.
If we come close itíll make the nightmare seem worse.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 21, 2018, 21:18:38 pm
When is the last time we won 4 on the trot?
How incredible it would be, totally erasing the nightmare of Dumb and Dumber.
If we come close itíll make the nightmare seem worse.

It's the hope that kills you.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: OCoole on April 21, 2018, 23:04:32 pm
People are thinking that Rochdale are pretty much a given to stay up.

I'll probably (and maybe rightly) get shot down for saying this but I think I'd rather our two remaining games against two teams that we could overtake than Rochdale's THREE tricky remaining games (H v Plymouth, A v Oxford, H v Charlton).


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 22, 2018, 08:13:08 am
Two weeks ago we were dead and buried. Now there is real belief that we can actually do this. I didnít go to Bury but that sounded like a slightly fortuitous win perhaps? Today however was a real committed, passionate, positive performance with a deserved 3 points that if we can replicate for two more games gives us the edge. You would think however that Walsall, Oldham and Dale would be trying to do the same. Walsall perhaps are sleepwalking to relegation having not really been in the mix all season. Oldham and Dale have been down there all season and are dropping points with plenty of draws recently. We need to win both games although 4 points may be enough? If the worst happens on Tuesday then we are back to needing two wins. That would still leave Oldham/Walsall needing something from their other remaining game each. So whatever happens this midweek letís all get to Walsall and give them a fright like we gave Plymouth today.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Buster on April 22, 2018, 09:12:19 am
If we beat Walsall and Oldham then to finish above us:

Rochdale need five points from three games
Oldham need five points from two games .... So two wins
Walsall need four points from two games .... Both away
Wimbledon need two points from three games
Dongs cannot overtake us

We can still do this !


Oldham would actually need four (not five) points - so a win and a draw...



Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 22, 2018, 11:13:51 am
When is the last time we won 4 on the trot?
How incredible it would be, totally erasing the nightmare of Dumb and Dumber.
If we come close itíll make the nightmare seem worse.

We last won 4 on the trot during the Championship season Feb 2016, it was actually 10 on the trot finishing at York on 23rd Feb. Since then the best winning sequence has been 3 - once under JED, twice under JFH.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Shadowstorm on April 22, 2018, 14:13:53 pm
A new sense of hope has emerged and its refreshingly good, but, until Walsall, Oldham and Rochdale have all lost on Tuesday, only then can we dare to dream the unthinkable.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 22, 2018, 15:20:19 pm
Tricky. Walsall don't play this tuesday  ;)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: EssTeeFree on April 22, 2018, 16:06:20 pm
Experimental 361 have updated the ďwhatís still possibleĒ infographic, not much change for us based on yesterday, still have us more likely to finish below MK than stay up, which is a bit odd. Crucially the chances of the other teams going down has increased.

https://experimental361.com/2018/04/22/whats-still-possible-22-april-2018/

(https://experimental361.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/2018-04-22-l1.png)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 24, 2018, 13:03:05 pm
So, a big night ahead with Oldham at home to Southend and Rochdale at home to Plymouth.

Anything less than two wins is good for us, but if both manage to pick up three points it does mean that only two wins from our last two games is good enough...anything less and we are down.
Rochdale would have 50 and Oldham 51 and Wimbledon already have 50, and we could only manage 50 with a win and a draw. Our very negative goal difference could yet see us relegated.

If results go against us tonight we could yet beat Walsall and send them down with us....not instead of us!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 24, 2018, 13:12:10 pm
If results go against us tonight we could yet beat Walsall and send them down with us....not instead of us!

I think if Walsall go down, I'd rather go down as well  :P

Coventry, Walsall, MK and Macclesfield away days would be a dream scenario for me.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 24, 2018, 13:15:21 pm
Can Southend take their weekend form to Oldham?

Surely Plymouth must be better than they showed at the weekend?

This season has really worn my optimism away as I can see Oldham and Rochdale both winning tonight  :-\


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2018, 13:28:41 pm
Fancy Oldham to win but reckon Dale will drop points again.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 24, 2018, 14:00:01 pm
Plymouth had their kick up the jacksie on Saturday and will need to perform better if they still have hopes of the play-offs.
Southend have nothing really to play for however they may want to impress Chris Powell for next seasons contracts with a bit of luck.
A nervous night...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 24, 2018, 15:54:16 pm
Two home wins from Oldham and they should be safe before we play them.
Could six points for them work to our advantage, if they have the deckchairs out a week Saturday?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 24, 2018, 16:41:31 pm
Two home wins from Oldham and they should be safe before we play them.
Could six points for them work to our advantage, if they have the deckchairs out a week Saturday?
Things will look a lot different later this evening, hoping neither oldham or Rochdale get a win which puts things back in our own hands.
I hoping oldham come to Sixfields looking for a draw and we need maximum points as that could play into our hands.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: claretparrot on April 24, 2018, 17:03:35 pm
hoping neither oldham or Rochdale get a win which puts things back in our own hands.

I think we could still go down even if they both lost tonight and we won our last two? We'd only be guaranteed to jump Oldham.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on April 24, 2018, 17:07:40 pm
I think we could still go down even if they both lost tonight and we won our last two? We'd only be guaranteed to jump Oldham.
Correct. Two loses tonight only puts Oldham back in our hands.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 24, 2018, 18:06:09 pm
I think we could still go down even if they both lost tonight and we won our last two? We'd only be guaranteed to jump Oldham.
Assuming we win both, I believe Walsall have to be our best chance to overhaul as they would need 4 pts from 2 away games then oldham not winning any of their final games.
Still very difficult for us but would love to go into final day with it still being 2 from a posible 3 and a win would save us. 6/1 long odds but certainly given ourselves a fighting chance and some memorable matches as we head to Nailsworth😉


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 24, 2018, 19:43:52 pm
Looking at the teams selected by Plymouth and Southend tonight it's a bit of a contrast. Plymouth have gone for exactly the same 11 that played us with the exception of sarcevic for Paton which was enforced due to injury - hopefully there will be a reaction after our game. Unfortunately after southend's impressive win at the weekend they've opted to change things - whether to freshen it up or down to injuries who knows.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 19:53:49 pm
GOAL SOUTHEND!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 24, 2018, 19:54:06 pm
C'mon Southend!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 24, 2018, 19:55:22 pm
So here's to you Theo Robinson!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 24, 2018, 19:56:53 pm
So here's to you Theo Robinson!

Great start 🤗

Bradford looks like a swimming pool


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on April 24, 2018, 19:57:45 pm
Bradford winning!!

Bye bye Franchise 😂😂😂


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 20:25:21 pm
Nerves as high as they would be if we were playing ourselves!

"It's all Plymouth" according to the Sky reporter at Dale...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Coolcat on April 24, 2018, 20:35:34 pm
Millwall winning at Carlisle!  8)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on April 24, 2018, 20:41:57 pm
Millwall winning at Carlisle!  8)

Don't...too soon.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 20:58:32 pm
Oldham 0-2 Southend!!

Rochdale 0-1 Plymouth!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: crazycobbler on April 24, 2018, 20:59:30 pm
Oldham 0-2 Southend!!

Rochdale 0-1 Plymouth!!

GET IN!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 24, 2018, 21:00:01 pm
This is unreal..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 24, 2018, 21:00:28 pm
Dale 1-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: crazycobbler on April 24, 2018, 21:00:33 pm
Rochdale equalise... 1-1


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:00:48 pm
Dohhh...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 24, 2018, 21:01:27 pm
Oldham 3 down


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:02:22 pm
Oldham have collapsed...is Jimmy in charge there now?

The Dale result is ok-ish if it stays a draw.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 24, 2018, 21:23:38 pm
Mongs 2-0 down


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:24:13 pm
Bye bye Plastics!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 24, 2018, 21:38:32 pm
Lots of twists and turns to come. Beat Walsall and all eyes on Bradford doing us a favour to put it into our hands, without worrying about Rochdale.
Iím sure someone will easily come up with all permutations. I donít even want to contemplate finishing on 4 victories and going down on GD!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on April 24, 2018, 21:40:06 pm
Bye bye Plastics!

Yes they have official gone - not mathematically looking at the table but the other games means they canít get enough points


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:40:24 pm
Full times:

Rochdale 1-1 Plymouth
Oldham 0-3 Southend
Bradford 2-0 Dongs

That went almost perfectly to plan  ;D

Got a feeling we'll be doing this again next Tuesday hoping for another favour from Bradford against Walsall!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BackOfTheNet on April 24, 2018, 21:40:37 pm
A shame Plymouth couldn't do us a bigger favour but overall I'll gladly take tonight's set of results!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on April 24, 2018, 21:43:06 pm
Lots of twists and turns to come. Beat Walsall and all eyes on Bradford doing us a favour to put it into our hands, without worrying about Rochdale.
Iím sure someone will easily come up with all permutations. I donít even want to contemplate finishing on 4 victories and going down on GD!

Unfortunately if Rochdale get 4 points from their 2 games that could be a possibility. - having said that itís been a nearly perfect night and providing we win at Walsall it definitely goes to the last game


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:43:40 pm
A shame Plymouth couldn't do us a bigger favour but overall I'll gladly take tonight's set of results!

Yep - I was most worried about Oldham's game and that turned out to be the best result of the night!

Rochdale finish with a couple of tricky ones at Oxford and home to Charlton - let's hope Charlton haven't confirmed a playoff place yet by the last day.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on April 24, 2018, 21:48:01 pm
So as I see it worst case scenario lose sat and Dale get a point we are down? But.. defo game on!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on April 24, 2018, 21:49:46 pm
So as I see it worst case scenario lose sat and Dale get a point we are down? But.. defo game on!!

Yep down in all but name if that happened. Bloody goal difference!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 24, 2018, 21:49:57 pm
Yep - I was most worried about Oldham's game and that turned out to be the best result of the night!

Rochdale finish with a couple of tricky ones at Oxford and home to Charlton - let's hope Charlton haven't confirmed a playoff place yet by the last day.

Hard to beat that set of results - even Rochdale home point is ok - imo!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monty on April 24, 2018, 22:07:28 pm
A shame Plymouth couldn't do us a bigger favour but overall I'll gladly take tonight's set of results!
Being as though they could have slammed the door firmly shut on us on Saturday I find it hard and quite ungrateful to criticise them at the moment.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 24, 2018, 22:17:36 pm
Forget all the scenarios and he said she said etc, itís all irrelevant, this is now back in our own hands. From where we were we are in dreamland, come on boys!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: SBJ on April 24, 2018, 22:27:18 pm
Somewhere on the 'Jimmy Floyd is sacked' thread I posted that I was optimistic with 5 games left. I think one other person said yes maybe not all doom, you never know, and everyone else said nah that's rubbish we're down for sure. Good to see more people starting to feel positive! I'm sure the players see it that way too, as that'll make them feel like anything's possible when they go out for the final two games. Always hard to beat a team who feel that momentum/fate/fortune is with them.   


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 24, 2018, 22:35:12 pm
Somewhere on the 'Jimmy Floyd is sacked' thread I posted that I was optimistic with 5 games left. I think one other person said yes maybe not all doom, you never know, and everyone else said nah that's rubbish we're down for sure. Good to see more people starting to feel positive! I'm sure the players see it that way too, as that'll make them feel like anything's possible when they go out for the final two games. Always hard to beat a team who feel that momentum/fate/fortune is with them.   
Well said Dean, you and the players are about to become immortal!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: crazycobbler on April 25, 2018, 00:23:35 am
Looking at the fixtures I think two wins will get us over the line. I can't really see Walsall getting four points from two tough away games. If we win on Saturday it'll then be a 'winner stays up' scenario against Oldham on the last day. Rochdale deserve a lot of credit given their congested schedule, it's not easy playing catch up. They've not lost on the road since February and I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Oxford on Saturday (although I really do hope I'm wrong). I fancy Dale to stay up, so if we get our two wins I think it'll be Oldham and Walsall that go down.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 25, 2018, 00:52:43 am
Looking at the fixtures I think two wins will get us over the line. I can't really see Walsall getting four points from two tough away games. If we win on Saturday it'll then be a 'winner stays up' scenario against Oldham on the last day. Rochdale deserve a lot of credit given their congested schedule, it's not easy playing catch up. They've not lost on the road since February and I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Oxford on Saturday (although I really do hope I'm wrong). I fancy Dale to stay up, so if we get our two wins I think it'll be Oldham and Walsall that go down.
Thereís no way both Rochdale and Walsall will get a win and a draw in their last 2 games. Iím telling you, this is back in our hands! Wimbledon ainít safe either. The way they are going beating Bury away on the last day of the season isnít a given? I think they will lose at Wigan and possibly Donny, draw at Bury and weíre above them an all.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: TownOwl on April 25, 2018, 01:53:17 am
Jolly exciting isn't it?!

Am I the only one who always finds relegation battles far more nerve wracking and exciting than promotion battles? (Possibly playoffs excluded.)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: unicobbler on April 25, 2018, 07:25:41 am
Lots of talk about what the other teams might do but we have 2 games to win first or its all meaningless. Neither will be easy and we have to show the same determination that we did on Saturday and not the determination from the rest of the season.

That said Austin seems to have got something going so hopefully we can continue the hunt


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Gen.Disorda on April 25, 2018, 07:25:51 am
Jolly exciting isn't it?!

Am I the only one who always finds relegation battles far more nerve wracking and exciting than promotion battles? (Possibly playoffs excluded.)

Northampton fans are at their best when its backs against the wall time, the best atmospheres I have seen at sixfields have been when we are hanging onto our league status for dear life.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 25, 2018, 07:30:13 am
Win, lose or draw, looking forward to a good end of season away day... (obviously the first option is the preference of choice though)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblertone on April 25, 2018, 07:39:38 am
Northampton fans are at their best when its backs against the wall time, the best atmospheres I have seen at sixfields have been when we are hanging onto our league status for dear life.

When fans, players and fans come together in joy or adversity itís when football is at its best.
Despite this bunch getting us in this mess and creating a horrid season, it could have an amazing happy ending. We can dream.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: threeinabed on April 25, 2018, 07:48:21 am
Northampton fans are at their best when its backs against the wall time, the best atmospheres I have seen at sixfields have been when we are hanging onto our league status for dear life.

bristol rovers in the play offs is still the best atmosphere at sixfields, by a mile.

but in general i believe you are right, as it backs against the wall that night as well.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 25, 2018, 07:51:27 am
The fact is , we still need 52 points and two wins .
Anything less and we probably will still go down .
Good to see others faltering though .


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: forever cobb on April 25, 2018, 08:03:17 am
believe, believe,I loath wanting other teams to lose but thats the only way we'll stay up after last nights results, its game on again. Give them a big cheer on Saturday, I will be there in spirit, having to work again when my boys need me hurts. I will be there  for the Oldham game no matter what.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WasRambo on April 25, 2018, 08:05:20 am
The worry for me is as soon as our fate is back in our own hands, we'll fukc it up lol


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 25, 2018, 09:42:46 am
Itís all about momentum and belief , both with the players and supporters .
Itís currently with us and Rochdale and against Oldham and Walsall .
It just shows you what a change of management can do and also a policy of playing lads that want desperately to do well as opposed to hide and moan .
Everyone suddenly believes and I never thought I would say that this season


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: clarkeysntfc on April 25, 2018, 09:46:55 am
It's the opposite of the Gary Johnson season when we plummeted from mid table safety to a relegation battle to stay in L2.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on April 25, 2018, 10:18:05 am
Itís all about momentum and belief , both with the players and supporters .
Itís currently with us and Rochdale and against Oldham and Walsall .
It just shows you what a change of management can do and also a policy of playing lads that want desperately to do well as opposed to hide and moan .
Everyone suddenly believes and I never thought I would say that this season

I'm trying to keep myself in check now as it's the belief that kills us  ;D

I really did think we were dead and buried after Posh and even more so after Blackpool so the fact we are back in with a shout of safety is unbelievable.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Irchy cob on April 25, 2018, 10:52:34 am
Iím as guilty as anyone of getting far too carried away but if we beat Walsall on Saturday there is an outside possibility that we could be out of the relegation zone for the final game - who would have said that a few weeks ago!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monkey on April 25, 2018, 11:04:51 am
I predict that all 4 teams (us, Walsall, Oldham and Rochdale) will be on 49 points going in to the last game.
Ideally though, Walsall and/or Rochdale will pick up no more points to leave it completely in our own hands - hate waiting and watching the other scores come in...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on April 25, 2018, 11:23:02 am
I predict that all 4 teams (us, Walsall, Oldham and Rochdale) will be on 49 points going in to the last game.
Ideally though, Walsall and/or Rochdale will pick up no more points to leave it completely in our own hands - hate waiting and watching the other scores come in...

And Wimbledon will likely by on 50 points so it really is all to play for.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Monkey on April 25, 2018, 11:27:20 am
I reckon Wimbledon will get something against Doncaster, but even a draw will still make it interesting and adds another team to keep an eye on.
All this excitement and we'll probably now get battered by Walsall...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on April 25, 2018, 11:51:04 am
I reckon Wimbledon will get something against Doncaster, but even a draw will still make it interesting and adds another team to keep an eye on.
All this excitement and we'll probably now get battered by Walsall...


Marquis is a Cobbler. Put your money on him scoring a hattrick.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on April 25, 2018, 13:07:03 pm
ANYTHING can happen this time of the season, strange results will occur all over the place like WBA winning at Old Trafford. Always the same!

Where we have been very lucky though is that all the teams just above us have been failing more than you would expect from the law of averages.

Rochdale on Saturday conceding in injury time was potentially massive for us, otherwise they'd be pretty much out of reach by now.

In summary. On Saturday we need:

* to win ourselves
* Rochdale to get beat by Oxford (who should be up for it given they are still not mathematically safe)

That will mean next Tuesdays fixtures are irrelevant and we can relax for a week before beating Oldham!

If Rochdale win or draw then we need from next Tuesday:

* Walsall to lose at Bradford

Otherwise we will need a favour somewhere next Saturday as well as a win ourselves!





Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 25, 2018, 13:10:28 pm
I reckon Wimbledon will get something against Doncaster, but even a draw will still make it interesting and adds another team to keep an eye on.
All this excitement and we'll probably now get battered by Walsall...


How anyone dare even to attempt to second guess a result beats me. Last night results prove that.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 25, 2018, 13:14:10 pm
ANYTHING can happen this time of the season, strange results will occur all over the place like WBA winning at Old Trafford. Always the same!


............................Otherwise we will need a favour somewhere next Saturday as well as a win ourselves!


Its not quite in our hands tho' and we do need some good fortune from the next round of matches.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 25, 2018, 13:28:10 pm
Panic and pressure will play a part here .
There will be something unusual happen that no one predicts .
Of course , it could be us that suffers and we get turned over , but itís just as likely to be Walsall , Rochdale or Oldham .
Everyone has to win each game and so no one will be playing safe


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on April 25, 2018, 13:37:21 pm
I reckon Wimbledon will get something against Doncaster, but even a draw will still make it interesting and adds another team to keep an eye on.
All this excitement and we'll probably now get battered by Walsall...


Yes but two losses to Wigan and Doncaster and they will be reeling. They've got the easiest game of the lot at home to Bury but you never know...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on April 25, 2018, 15:35:55 pm
Yes but two losses to Wigan and Doncaster and they will be reeling. They've got the easiest game of the lot at home to Bury but you never know...
Bury have picked a bit of late and wont lay down, I doubt theres much between these two.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: ajp on April 25, 2018, 16:20:41 pm
Panic and pressure will play a part here .
There will be something unusual happen that no one predicts .
Of course , it could be us that suffers and we get turned over , but itís just as likely to be Walsall , Rochdale or Oldham .
Everyone has to win each game and so no one will be playing safe

If it follows our trend for this season then it will be us that gets turned over.. here's hoping not..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on April 25, 2018, 16:28:56 pm
Panic and pressure will play a part here .
There will be something unusual happen that no one predicts .
Of course , it could be us that suffers and we get turned over , but it’s just as likely to be Walsall , Rochdale or Oldham .
Everyone has to win each game and so no one will be playing safe

Thanks fcuk Jimmy isn't still in charge then!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on April 25, 2018, 22:29:01 pm
It's the hope that kills you. We looked dead and buried after Boro and even more so after Blackpool. I never even considered we'd have a sniff of safety. Now all the talk is "just" win the next two and we'll be fine. We've given ourselves an unbelievably good chance of doing this, but it could also all be over at 5pm Satdee if the worst results all occur. It's a fine balance. One mistake, one refereeing decision, one piece of magic from their Turkish Messi and it could all be over. If that does happen we need to not be too despondent. I can't predict it. I'll be at Walsall hoping its a game that has legendary status for us in part of the great escape 2018. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on April 25, 2018, 22:44:25 pm
If it follows our trend for this season then it will be us that gets turned over.. here's hoping not..

I bet you thought that about Bury too! Unlike you to be so upbeat 8)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on April 25, 2018, 22:46:30 pm
Drilling does it for me.....

But, the key thing is, as Dean Austin says, win the next game!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 01, 2018, 21:55:38 pm
Walsall & AFC Wimbledon safe after tonight's results.

Between Rochdale & Oldham who join us in League 2.

52 points would have been enough....oh well.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on May 02, 2018, 10:26:31 am
Sadly - I can still see us going down by GD - I just hope the angry brigade (who never actually have to make a decision) donít use that to repeat their comments against DA at Walsall- he tried something and in hindsight it was wrong but hey with hindsight we would all be rich geniuses.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 02, 2018, 10:44:11 am
I was annoyed at DA during and after the Walsall game but, while I don't agree with his decisions, I fully understand why he went for it. No recrimination from me if we go down on goal difference. If we'd have got the draw last week there is nothing to say that wouldn't have affected other attitudes for the final games leading to different results.

I'd much rather have a manager that goes for it. He did it twice, Bury and Walsall and we got 3 points. Our previous 3 managers would have probably not rolled the dice and we would have had a maximum of 2 points from those games, maybe less as it is likely we would have folded in one of them.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on May 02, 2018, 12:13:27 pm
I was annoyed at DA during and after the Walsall game but, while I don't agree with his decisions, I fully understand why he went for it. No recrimination from me if we go down on goal difference. If we'd have got the draw last week there is nothing to say that wouldn't have affected other attitudes for the final games leading to different results.

I'd much rather have a manager that goes for it. He did it twice, Bury and Walsall and we got 3 points. Our previous 3 managers would have probably not rolled the dice and we would have had a maximum of 2 points from those games, maybe less as it is likely we would have folded in one of them.

Exactly this.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on May 02, 2018, 20:12:23 pm
When people say he rolled the dice or he had a go at the end of the Walsall game, is that the same thing as exercising his judgement as manager and getting it wrong?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on May 02, 2018, 22:05:35 pm
When people say he rolled the dice or he had a go at the end of the Walsall game, is that the same thing as exercising his judgement as manager and getting it wrong?

I thought he got it spectacularly wrong. We were so on top and dominating. Then absolutely lost the plot with weird substitutions and tactical changes.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on May 02, 2018, 22:17:09 pm
I thought he got it spectacularly wrong. We were so on top and dominating. Then absolutely lost the plot with weird substitutions and tactical changes.

We were on top without scoring. Walsall would have been content with a point so I reckon without the subs they would have comfortably seen the game out. It turned out a draw would have given us a slim chance but only that so Iím glad he went for it despite the result. Isnít that the attitude we prefer?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on May 02, 2018, 22:20:01 pm
If we had only lost 2-1 up at Oldham instead of 5-1, we would only need to win 3-0 on Saturday. I know that's a pointless thing to say really but it just shows how every single match is important.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 02, 2018, 22:22:30 pm
We were on top without scoring. Walsall would have been content with a point so I reckon without the subs they would have comfortably seen the game out. It turned out a draw would have given us a slim chance but only that so Iím glad he went for it despite the result. Isnít that the attitude we prefer?

Yes, but some are never pleased.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on May 03, 2018, 07:30:24 am
We went to Walsall to win and win only but couldn't score a goal, thats why we made substitutions that were hoped would work but failed miserably but thats football.

I would like us to set out a team on Saturday that will have some baring on next season and not the epitaph of the last one.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: alton on May 03, 2018, 08:50:58 am
When people say he rolled the dice or he had a go at the end of the Walsall game, is that the same thing as exercising his judgement as manager and getting it wrong?

You can take a calculated risk; if it goes wrong it doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong decision at the time.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on May 03, 2018, 09:44:38 am
We were on top without scoring. Walsall would have been content with a point so I reckon without the subs they would have comfortably seen the game out. It turned out a draw would have given us a slim chance but only that so Iím glad he went for it despite the result. Isnít that the attitude we prefer?

Yes and no.

I felt Hoskins was ineffective and either needed replacing sooner, or support brought on sooner. Throwing Taylor, Hoskins, Long and van Veen up top meant we stopped getting the ball into the dangerous positions and ended up being picked apart. We could have gone more attacking without losing the midfield and defence.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on May 03, 2018, 11:52:12 am
If we had only lost 2-1 up at Oldham instead of 5-1, we would only need to win 3-0 on Saturday. I know that's a pointless thing to say really but it just shows how every single match is important.

The Marquis pointed that out as well.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on May 03, 2018, 12:00:30 pm
Not so. If we had lost 2-1 at Oldham instead of 5-1 our goal difference now would have been -31 and Oldham's -20. So it would still need a 6-0 victory to overtake Oldham on goal difference.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on May 03, 2018, 13:26:31 pm
If JJ hadn't missed the penalty at Rochdale

If Long had taken one of his many chances at home to Oxford

If JJ hadn't been sent off against Shrewsbury

If Jimmy had been sacked earlier - or not appointed

If If If ................ there will be a hundred ifs about staying up, to go round in circles will drive you mad.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 03, 2018, 13:31:57 pm
My opinion on the Walsall subs is as follows:

1. I felt that we should have made a change around the hour mark, swapping Hoskins for Long. The game had started to drift around 10 minutes into the 2nd half and continued to drift until the 75th minute. I was discussing this with my mate at the time so not looking back and using hindsight.
2. The 'issue' for me was who he took off. HOWEVER. Someone on this site (sorry, cannot remember who) put that by taking Crooks off was logical (not factoring in hamstring 'issues') because for the last period of the game we were going to go long so wide players would have been 'taken out of the equation' so to speak. That I found interesting and re-iterated to me how subjective football is! McWilliams though I cannot buy into the point he'd been booked. And I defended JFH stoutly when he took McWilliams off for the very reason quite recently. The difference for me this time round is that McWilliams was unlikely to be sent off, he was in control etc. Don't get that one Im afraid!
3. Taylor moving up top. No issues at all. Made sense given our predicament or potential predicament by only gaining 1 point.
4. Van Veen. Id never have brought him on, he wouldn't have been on the bench for starters! But I do 'get' again that football is subjective but Id rather have seen Constantine re-emerge from retirement for that last 10 minutes! But me being objective I will put that down as a difference in opinion on a player, nothing more nothing less.

I was peeved at the time and tweeted so accordingly. But a few hours later Id come to the conclusion that Id rather have a manager who does go gung ho at times instead of one who is the opposite, i.e., Page, JED and JFH. Even Wilder was afraid to send the keeper up 4 minutes into 4 minutes of time added on when we were losingÖTHAT is by far my greatest bugbear in football! Because if I was a manager Id be sending the keeper up top in the last 2 minutes of time added on even at throw ins! I totally believe that you'd end up with more points over a 46 game season that you would without doing so and that would make up for the sh1t goal difference you'd end up with!

Fergie was the only top flight manager who used to do it regularly that I can recall and he's not a bad act to follow! And that was just from corners or free kicks. Id be a footballing pioneer, the keeper would join the attack full on!  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on May 03, 2018, 13:51:45 pm
We were on top without scoring. Walsall would have been content with a point so I reckon without the subs they would have comfortably seen the game out. It turned out a draw would have given us a slim chance but only that so Iím glad he went for it despite the result. Isnít that the attitude we prefer?

100% - we can all be wise after the event and offer an opinion - my 4 pennyworth is I didn't understand the McWilliams thing - some players get booked (JJOT for example) and you are holding your breath for the rest of the game - McWilliams on the other hand used his brain, was still very effective but without taking risks - my comments are more of a testimony to him rather than against DA.

.....but back to the point DA made a decision to win the game which if it had come off would have given us a better chance of staying up - it didn't work and even if we go down on goal difference I still support him as the manager making that decision. 


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on May 03, 2018, 14:20:49 pm
My opinion on the Walsall subs is as follows:

1. I felt that we should have made a change around the hour mark, swapping Hoskins for Long. The game had started to drift around 10 minutes into the 2nd half and continued to drift until the 75th minute. I was discussing this with my mate at the time so not looking back and using hindsight.
2. The 'issue' for me was who he took off. HOWEVER. Someone on this site (sorry, cannot remember who) put that by taking Crooks off was logical (not factoring in hamstring 'issues') because for the last period of the game we were going to go long so wide players would have been 'taken out of the equation' so to speak. That I found interesting and re-iterated to me how subjective football is! McWilliams though I cannot buy into the point he'd been booked. And I defended JFH stoutly when he took McWilliams off for the very reason quite recently. The difference for me this time round is that McWilliams was unlikely to be sent off, he was in control etc. Don't get that one Im afraid!
3. Taylor moving up top. No issues at all. Made sense given our predicament or potential predicament by only gaining 1 point.
4. Van Veen. Id never have brought him on, he wouldn't have been on the bench for starters! But I do 'get' again that football is subjective but Id rather have seen Constantine re-emerge from retirement for that last 10 minutes! But me being objective I will put that down as a difference in opinion on a player, nothing more nothing less.

Word for word agree with this. But I was also of the belief that a draw would have been acceptable at the time the substitutions were made as well (I understand I'm in the minority here).

If JJ hadn't missed the penalty at Rochdale

If Long had taken one of his many chances at home to Oxford

If JJ hadn't been sent off against Shrewsbury

If Jimmy had been sacked earlier - or not appointed

If If If ................ there will be a hundred ifs about staying up, to go round in circles will drive you mad.

Mad to think we'd be 4 points better off if O'Toole scored that penalty and stayed on the pitch to see out a classic win vs The Shrews  :P

I'll still name my first born after him though.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on May 03, 2018, 14:40:22 pm

Great now I've completely depressed myself with this :(


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on May 03, 2018, 21:52:38 pm
You can take a calculated risk; if it goes wrong it doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong decision at the time.
An apologist would say that yes!
There were others around me who thought the substitutions were wrong at the time, and that then also pushing Taylor up was a tactical mistake, handing the initiative to Walsall.
And when you say we would only have a slim chance had we drawn, is that fair?
With that, if we beat Oldham at home on Saturday, then Rochdale would need to beat Charlton to avoid relegation in our place.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 03, 2018, 22:22:18 pm
An apologist would say that yes!
There were others around me who thought the substitutions were wrong at the time, and that then also pushing Taylor up was a tactical mistake, handing the initiative to Walsall.
And when you say we would only have a slim chance had we drawn, is that fair?
With that, if we beat Oldham at home on Saturday, then Rochdale would need to beat Charlton to avoid relegation in our place.


I tend to agree - although only tend......  Well maybe more agree in total than tend.....  Am I really Trump?

Our manager's ratonale, as he exp[lained, was that he wanted attacking/goalscoring players on the pitch.

My counter to that is as follows:

I rather feel a half-fit Crooks has a greater goal-threat than a half-fit Van Veen.....  and is far more creative for the team.

Yes, O'Toole has scored a lot of goals, but, if his engine was running on empty, how was he going to get into the box to score?

And, if there is no-one to bite in midfield, how do you win the ball to get it to the myriad of attackers?

As I've said on a previous heart-on-sleeve post, this is not the time to be negative.  And, I am sure that this little experiment will be a one-off for our current management (whether their learning will be implemented here or elsewhere).  But - and this is very important for everyone to understand - it is impossible to play all-out attacking football if you do not have possession of the ball.

The biggest mistake against Walsall was not replacing McW like-for like.  The only real alternatives were Poole (not in the squad), O'Toole (left up front & knackered) or Foley (left on the bench).  Our other Central Midfielder, as I've also expounded on at length, is just a pretty adornment to a game.  If there was someone who could tackle sat in front of the defence, it really did not matter if Taylor was sent up front for the last few minutes.

In the old days of wingers, it used to be regular thing to send the Centre Half up front to try to force a result.  But, in those days, the Central Midfielders were real men, and knew how to send their opposite number into orbit, whether they needed to or not.......

I love you all!!!!!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on May 03, 2018, 22:25:16 pm
Word for word agree with this. But I was also of the belief that a draw would have been acceptable at the time the substitutions were made as well (I understand I'm in the minority here).

Mad to think we'd be 4 points better off if O'Toole scored that penalty and stayed on the pitch to see out a classic win vs The Shrews  :P

I'll still name my first born after him though.
Can everybody stop with these two letters?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 03, 2018, 22:31:50 pm
Can everybody stop with these two letters?

No! "IF" off......

(I was only trying to get a cheap joke, honest... No offence intended.....  Please don't hit me....)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on May 03, 2018, 22:36:19 pm
An apologist would say that yes!
There were others around me who thought the substitutions were wrong at the time, and that then also pushing Taylor up was a tactical mistake, handing the initiative to Walsall.
And when you say we would only have a slim chance had we drawn, is that fair?
With that, if we beat Oldham at home on Saturday, then Rochdale would need to beat Charlton to avoid relegation in our place.


I agree with you CJ - my immediate thoughts on the substitutions was of total surprise that both Long and vV were on; both out of form. Would have gone with just one of them probably Long. Agreed with Crooks being withdrawn as he had history with hamstring injuries. McWilliams substitution is hard to follow; JJOT was knackered and perhaps Foley seemed the natural replacement. Having weakened the midfield, DA then ordered Taylor up front. I appreciate DA's tactic dictum of must-win, but we hadn't scored and we were running on empty. At 80mins most of us, I suspect were settling for a draw.  To me, DA's judgment was flawed based on pulling on both Long and vV and then McWilliams with no Foley. I don't mind risks but this was OTT.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 03, 2018, 22:45:27 pm
I agree with you CJ - my immediate thoughts on the substitutions was of total surprise that both Long and vV were on; both out of form. Would have gone with just one of them probably Long. Agreed with Crooks being withdrawn as he had history with hamstring injuries. McWilliams substitution is hard to follow; JJOT was knackered and perhaps Foley seemed the natural replacement. Having weakened the midfield, DA then ordered Taylor up front. I appreciate DA's tactic dictum of must-win, but we hadn't scored and we were running on empty. At 80mins most of us, I suspect were settling for a draw.  To me, DA's judgment was flawed based on pulling on both Long and vV and then McWilliams with no Foley. I don't mind risks but this was OTT.

Oi, are you copying?

I'll be shielding my typing with my spare arm, if you carry on like this......

Cheat!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest2235 on May 03, 2018, 22:54:31 pm
No! "IF" off......

(I was only trying to get a cheap joke, honest... No offence intended.....  Please don't hit me....)
If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, donít deal in lies,
Or being hated, donít give way to hating,
    And yet donít look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dreamóand not make dreams your master;   
    If you can thinkóand not make thoughts your aim;   
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   
If you can bear to hear the truth youíve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build íem up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,   
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: ĎHold on!í

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,   
    Or walk with Kingsónor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty secondsí worth of distance run,   
Yours is the Earth and everything thatís in it,   
    Andówhich is moreóyouíll be a Man, my son!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: WadeyCobbler on May 03, 2018, 23:02:48 pm
Not so. If we had lost 2-1 at Oldham instead of 5-1 our goal difference now would have been -31 and Oldham's -20. So it would still need a 6-0 victory to overtake Oldham on goal difference.

Maths hey?! It's obvious now


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: everbrite on May 03, 2018, 23:44:22 pm
If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, donít deal in lies,
Or being hated, donít give way to hating,
    And yet donít look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dreamóand not make dreams your master;   
    If you can thinkóand not make thoughts your aim;   
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   
If you can bear to hear the truth youíve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build íem up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,   
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: ĎHold on!í

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,   
    Or walk with Kingsónor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty secondsí worth of distance run,   
Yours is the Earth and everything thatís in it,   
    Andówhich is moreóyouíll be a Man, my son!


Great poem isn't  - and very true. I got a great boliicking from admin for bringing it up some years ago.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 04, 2018, 01:02:56 am
If you can keep your head.........youíll be a Man, my son!


I just did my "O" Level English Lang Precis of that.  I hope you'll gve me an "A"?

(OK, you Hotel-Enders..... this is not a sexual remark.....  Get it?)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 04, 2018, 01:06:44 am
Great poem isn't  - and very true. I got a great boliicking from admin for bringing it up some years ago.

Quite right to.....it's Copyright and you are a plagiarist.... (or, something similar that makes folk laugh at/hate you/want to ride open-top with you)


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on May 04, 2018, 20:20:07 pm
I love you all!!!!!
But cannot embrace you all.
That's right isn't it Mr Overseas?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 05, 2018, 20:23:55 pm
The end!!! Bad luck to Oldham who went down with 50 points, and well done to Rochdale, who despite having all those games to play managed to get over the line. Bottom of the league and 12 points from safety at the beginning of March, 12 points behind us too........they only lost 3 of their last 16 games after they'd been knocked out of the Cup at Wembley by Spurs.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on May 05, 2018, 20:42:03 pm
Yes lets hope we don't this thread again for a very long time..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 05, 2018, 23:37:06 pm
But cannot embrace you all.
That's right isn't it Mr Overseas?


It an etherial, plasmatic way, I can embrace you all, because I love you all.

But, sadly, physically, my arms do not extend far enough to encircle the myriads of fellow Cobblers.

May I ask, do your underpants look like Beethoven?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 05, 2018, 23:47:13 pm
MK are gone - they have appointed someone who has nice presentation & project management skills, but, who knows FA about real football.

Rochdale may just scrape through (Keith Hill is a real, real, Footballing Manager) - and, I've put my money on them surviving.  If not, then total respect for their positive footballing attitude.

Wimbledon are goners.  No football skills left in their weak team.

Bury have acquired the wrong players in the Jan window, so, they are down.  (Given the high profile signing of Hanson, you'd expect him to start.....  ?)

Last relegation spot?  Not us.....   although our goals scored & conceded over the course of the season may say otherwise.

Last relegation spot goes to Blackpool, who, despite my pre-season optimism for them being promotion challengers, have hit the wall in the last few weeks.

We may be lucky, and hit 18th come the end of the season.

Big love to all you Cobble-obblers out there in Internet world.....    xxxxx


Well, I got 3 of those prediction right.......Pity there was no pay-out...... apart from Rochdale.....


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 06, 2018, 00:06:41 am
Well, I got 3 of those prediction right.......Pity there was no pay-out...... apart from Rochdale.....

This was the Table back then.....

1   Blackburn Rovers   36   21   10   5   67   35   32   73
2   Shrewsbury Town   34   20   8   6   45   26   19   68
3   Wigan Athletic   32   20   7   5   59   20   39   67
4   Rotherham United   34   19   5   10   58   39   19   62
5   Sc***horpe United   36   15   12   9   51   41   10   57
6   Plymouth Argyle   35   15   8   12   43   42   1   53
7   Charlton Athletic   33   14   9   10   43   41   2   51
8   Peterborough United   34   13   11   10   53   44   9   50
9   Bradford City   34   15   5   14   48   51   -3   50
10   Bristol Rovers   35   15   4   16   50   52   -2   49
11   Portsmouth   35   15   4   16   42   44   -2   49
12   Gillingham   35   11   13   11   39   39   0   46
13   Walsall   35   11   11   13   47   49   -2   44
14   Southend United   34   12   8   14   42   54   -12   44
15   Doncaster Rovers   35   10   12   13   43   44   -1   42
16   Oxford United   34   11   9   14   49   51   -2   42
17   Blackpool   34   10   12   12   42   44   -2   42
18   Oldham Athletic   34   10   9   15   48   58   -10   39
19   AFC Wimbledon   35   10   8   17   34   46   -12   38
20   Northampton Town   35   10   8   17   34   56   -22   38
21   Fleetwood Town   34   10   7   17   45   56   -11   37
22   Milton Keynes Dons   35   7   11   17   32   48   -16   32
23   Bury   34   7   8   19   28   50   -22   29
24   Rochdale   30   5   11   14   29   41   -12   26


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on May 06, 2018, 00:12:31 am
.....and, I can only applaud Rochdale for proving all their doubters wrong.  Especially given this heart-rending tale:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44018335

As for us, we managed 9 points from our last 11 games.  But, 7 from our last 5.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cj on May 06, 2018, 09:55:54 am
It an etherial, plasmatic way, I can embrace you all, because I love you all.

But, sadly, physically, my arms do not extend far enough to encircle the myriads of fellow Cobblers.

May I ask, do your underpants look like Beethoven?
They do not Overseas,
Unlike some, I've never been an admirer of Beethoven. My underpants will remain largely Claret, inspite of this seasons outcome. 
Today I am stepping into a pair with JJ proudly embroided on them.
I didn't get where I am....  ;D


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dr Feelgood on May 27, 2018, 17:03:18 pm
Rovrum and the Shrews are going into Extra Time at Wembley 1-1 after 90 mins.

Rovrum have been on top but its a good game..

I'd like to see the Shrews win..


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: cobblerwatch on May 27, 2018, 19:52:58 pm
Rovrum and the Shrews are going into Extra Time at Wembley 1-1 after 90 mins.

I'd like to see the Shrews win..

Not me - Shrewsbury against us have shown nasty gamesmanship - feigning injury and deliberate strategy to get players booked or sent off  - glad they lost!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: barton cobbler on May 27, 2018, 20:30:56 pm
Not me - Shrewsbury against us have shown nasty gamesmanship - feigning injury and deliberate strategy to get players booked or sent off  - glad they lost!
+1     Especially Shaun Whalley, cheating bastard.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Wolvo on May 28, 2018, 10:46:50 am
So all the relegated teams went back up? How boring. Hopefully we can follow suit this time next year.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 28, 2018, 13:14:00 pm
So all the relegated teams went back up? How boring. Hopefully we can follow suit this time next year.

The teams that went down from League 1 last season fared differently!

Chesterfield went straight through the trap door into non-league status. Port Vale only survived the same fate by a single point. Swindon flirted with the playoffs but in the end fell 7 points short, and Coventry of course are contesting the playoff final today.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: TownOwl on May 28, 2018, 20:02:08 pm
The gap between league 1 and the Championship is huge, the biggest in the country I'd say. Pundits always quote the gap to the Prem but the sides promoted to the Premier League all stayed up by 4 or more points.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 28, 2018, 21:17:26 pm
Am I right in thinking no promoted team from last season was relegated this season in the top 4 divisions? That canít have happened for quite a while?

Regarding the gap between Championship and League One, 2 of the promoted teams came pretty close to the play offs.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 28, 2018, 21:27:05 pm
That's a great stat!


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: bri77 on May 30, 2018, 09:42:52 am
All three relegated clubs from the championship bounced back too. First time thats happened for quite a few years.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on August 23, 2018, 20:09:19 pm
Bump...


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 20:23:41 pm
Hello darkness my old friend.

Sadly confident that this thread will be busy for the next 8 months.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: BedsCobb on August 23, 2018, 21:06:18 pm
Hello darkness my old friend.

Sadly confident that this thread will be busy for the next 8 months.
We have 42 games on which to save ourselves or as i still hope, we go on to secure 1.7 points per game and blag a play off place.


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Ron Obvious on August 23, 2018, 21:36:32 pm
We have 42 games on which to save ourselves or as i still hope, we go on to secure 1.7 points per game and blag a play off place.

I don't think you can talk yourself in to a playoff place even if you are doing it deceitfully  ;D

Maybe if we had a larger atomic number 88 that would help?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: guest3181 on August 23, 2018, 21:48:51 pm


Maybe if we had a larger atomic number 88 that would help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnw-qPxMZ-E


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: Ron Obvious on August 25, 2018, 20:27:18 pm
Notts County are struggling, what's going on there?


Title: Re: Relegation Watch
Post by: just.reading on September 08, 2018, 17:25:11 pm
A comfortable 4 points above the relegation zone and a better goal difference. I reckon we'll just about stay up.