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The Hotel End => Cobblers Corner => Topic started by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 16:52:27 pm



Title: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 16:52:27 pm
Leon Lobjoit signed permanent contract at Sixfields from Buckingham Town.

Just announced on BBC Northampton, however no official confirmation from the club yet. Strange!   


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 16:54:53 pm
Striker who has scored 60 odd goals in 30 games this season.

Has been on trial, previously at MK Dons (Youth) and Coventry City. 


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 30, 2017, 16:56:23 pm
Worth a shout, gives us a different option to what we have upfront and won't cost the earth.

Good signing.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on March 30, 2017, 16:59:43 pm
And QPR. Hopefully fatherhood has helped refocus his desires as a provider and what must be last chance saloon after the other clubs. Wish him well and if he could bring 30% of those goals with him that'd be good.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Moultoncobb on March 30, 2017, 17:39:38 pm
Can't see anything on Twitter regarding this! If we did sign him now would he be eligible for the last few games of the season or have the rules changed meaning we can't register him?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on March 30, 2017, 17:51:57 pm
UCL so shouldn't be a problemo


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 30, 2017, 18:08:05 pm
Confirmed.

Great signing.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Lappo on March 30, 2017, 18:08:54 pm
Can't play until next season.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 18:10:11 pm
Can't see anything on Twitter regarding this! If we did sign him now would he be eligible for the last few games of the season or have the rules changed meaning we can't register him?

As explained at the top, this was announced on BBC Northampton with an interview with the player himself (about 4.40pm). Maybe this shouldn't have been announced until a later date. I have e-mailed Gareth Willsher, but as yet have not received a reply.    


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The Rauldinho on March 30, 2017, 18:12:10 pm
https://t.co/GJll4BzTpt (https://t.co/GJll4BzTpt)


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 18:23:28 pm
Gareth has replied. Radio Northampton announced the signing early. There was an embargo until 6pm to allow all the paperwork to be completed. They are going to take this matter up with BBC Northampton.

Oh dear, looks like they're in trouble.   


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Shoemaker on March 30, 2017, 18:34:08 pm
Fair play to the club for signing a local non league talent.
I actually saw him play for Buckingham earlier this season.
Whilst it's a step up I can't beleive we've won the race to sign him.
In fact I can't beleive no one else took a punt.
I said to a friend at the time he reminded me of Jermaine Defoe.
Let's hope he does the bizz


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on March 30, 2017, 18:36:24 pm
UCL so shouldn't be a problemo
shows what I know!  Didn't Atkins get some criticism when signing Jamie Hand? Got a non league team to sign him from whatever league club it was so we could then sign him outside of window as a favour? Might have just imagined/fabricated that!!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 19:03:07 pm
UCL so shouldn't be a problemo

First negative moan, well done 👏🏻


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on March 30, 2017, 19:07:15 pm
You are a tit. Not negative at all you fool. I incorrectly thought he would be clear to play but apparently is not and highlighted my own error.

I'm pleased for him and hope he takes his chance and it benefits all parties.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on March 30, 2017, 19:24:02 pm
We've been going on for ages about not signing non-league talent... an now we have one who has very impressive stats. Welcome Leon!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Cobbler78 on March 30, 2017, 19:24:41 pm
You are a tit. Not negative at all you fool. I incorrectly thought he would be clear to play but apparently is not and highlighted my own error.

I'm pleased for him and hope he takes his chance and it benefits all parties.

Appologies. I just assumed........go on, I deserve it.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 30, 2017, 19:47:16 pm
Welcome aboard Leon. Keep banging those goals in.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: LeeleeSTAR on March 30, 2017, 19:47:55 pm
My guess is that he had an attitude problem which led to him throwing away his chances at me dons, qpr and Coventry.  Hopefully he's sorted this now and is willing to put the effort in.

Alternatives could be that he's a late bloomer, like Harry Kane.

Or he's just a bit **** and we've got it wrong.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: lift tower on March 30, 2017, 20:20:35 pm
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/leon-lobjoit.59941/


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 30, 2017, 20:39:55 pm
As explained at the top, this was announced on BBC Northampton with an interview with the player himself (about 4.40pm). Maybe this shouldn't have been announced until a later date. I have e-mailed Gareth Willsher, but as yet have not received a reply.    
GRASS


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 30, 2017, 21:01:20 pm
GRASS

Shame!  ;D


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Coolcat on March 30, 2017, 21:13:35 pm
So, presumably with this French sounding name, the 't' is silent.

Lovejoy it is then!  :afro


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 30, 2017, 22:26:40 pm
Shame!  ;D
Absolutely nothing to be proud about in being a grass. Although I could have guessed you as being one, you're a bit too teachers pet


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 30, 2017, 22:30:31 pm
Reading the Coventry and Plastics forums ,  the lad looks like he has real talent .
The issue seems to be attitude . Hopefully fatherhood has changed him .
Definitely worth a punt .
People on the Cov forum call him Kevin Thornton 2nd !!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Shoemaker on March 30, 2017, 22:34:59 pm
Also interested in signing non league winger Eric catchpole and prem youngster tinker dill


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: MCHammer on March 30, 2017, 22:38:12 pm
Very interesting signing.  Either going to be briiliant or a waste of space but definately worth a punt.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: #Frank on March 30, 2017, 22:56:55 pm
definately worth a punt.

Wow, he was cheap.  Welcome Leon.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cobbler150 on March 31, 2017, 10:54:21 am
Wow finally taking a punt on lower league talent. Agree will only go one of two ways.

Very refreshing and few more of the same will do....few wingers would be nice


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on March 31, 2017, 11:26:35 am
Certainly worth a punt. Let's hope it goes better than with Courtney Herbert.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: JohnFrainInThe93rd on March 31, 2017, 14:13:33 pm
shows what I know!  Didn't Atkins get some criticism when signing Jamie Hand? Got a non league team to sign him from whatever league club it was so we could then sign him outside of window as a favour? Might have just imagined/fabricated that!!

I had never heard of this however it appears you are correct as the ever reliable Wikipedia ( :D) states the following:


Hand departed Watford after the closure of the January 2006 transfer window, joining Fisher Athletic who were not bound by the regulations of the transfer window. Without making an appearance for the club, he joined Northampton Town on loan for the remainder of the season in February 2006.[5] At the time, Fisher were manager by Justin Edinburgh, a former teammate of Northampton's then boss Colin Calderwood leading to speculation that the Fisher move had been used to exploit a loophole in the transfer window system.[6] Hand debuted in the 1–1 home draw with Leyton Orient on 14 February 2006 and helped the club secure promotion from Football League Two. However, he was not offered a contract by the Cobblers at the end of the season and returned to Fisher Athletic


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 31, 2017, 16:23:11 pm
Absolutely nothing to be proud about in being a grass. Although I could have guessed you as being one, you're a bit too teachers pet

You don't really warrant a response. But it was nothing to do with being a teachers pet, I simply wondered why it had been announced on the BBC but nothing official had been mentioned by NTFC - contacted Gareth to clarify the situation.

Simple as that, not that I have to explain myself to you. 


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 31, 2017, 16:46:22 pm
Very interesting signing.  Either going to be briiliant or a waste of space but definately worth a punt.

And if he's the latter what have we lost??

I'm pleased with this signing!! Knows where the goal is...welcome Leon!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: STEVIEG on March 31, 2017, 16:53:16 pm
Important we are patient with this lad as he acclimatises to the pro game. Obviously has talent and knows where the goal is.

Best of luck Leon.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: defender on March 31, 2017, 17:41:40 pm

   I can't comment, I have never heard of him.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: capcob on March 31, 2017, 18:07:00 pm
I'm sure Ian Atkins would say 'He could be the Cobbler's first million pound player'


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 31, 2017, 18:28:13 pm
You don't really warrant a response. But it was nothing to do with being a teachers pet, I simply wondered why it had been announced on the BBC but nothing official had been mentioned by NTFC - contacted Gareth to clarify the situation.

Simple as that, not that I have to explain myself to you. 
but you both responded and explained yourself.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on March 31, 2017, 18:41:19 pm
Reading the Coventry and Plastics forums ,  the lad looks like he has real talent .
The issue seems to be attitude . Hopefully fatherhood has changed him .
Definitely worth a punt .
People on the Cov forum call him Kevin Thornton 2nd !!
He's too athletic to be Kevin Thornton 2nd!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on March 31, 2017, 18:42:55 pm
Certainly worth a punt. Let's hope it goes better than with Courtney Herbert.
He can't be any worse than another Leon... .Constantine!!!!!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Coolcat on March 31, 2017, 20:33:35 pm
but you both responded and explained yourself.
Sing when we tell ya!  ;D


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Kingsthorpe Cobbler on March 31, 2017, 20:36:57 pm
but you both responded and explained yourself.

It seems like you needed some help as you struggle to understand things.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Teachers Pet on September 25, 2017, 19:55:16 pm
Leon has joined Corby Town on a one month loan deal.

Good luck Leon. Knock them in and come back and do the same.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Saint Cobbler on September 25, 2017, 20:40:39 pm
Should have stayed. Could he do worse in the goal scoring stakes?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: WadeyCobbler on September 25, 2017, 20:43:00 pm
Ive said it before but I'm really disappointed he hasn't been given a chance. I guess JFH hasn't see enough to convince him to play him yet. Let's hope he bangs in the goals and comes back sharp and then given an opportunity.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on September 25, 2017, 20:52:28 pm
perfect opportunity for Leon to show he is of required standard. We are crying out for a player with pace and goals in them to play upfront so in a funny way this is a great move for both the player and the club. 


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Manwork04 on September 25, 2017, 20:59:46 pm
Think this is about his level TBH, if he was any good he would still be at QPR or Cov.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 25, 2017, 21:57:07 pm
Good luck Leon. Go score 30 goals, and prove your management wrong.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cj on September 25, 2017, 21:58:50 pm
30 goals in a month would be a reasonable return.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: clarkeysntfc on September 26, 2017, 10:06:26 am
Good move to send him to Corby. Will be interesting to see how he does.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Boot and shoe on September 26, 2017, 11:04:36 am
I’m surprised we haven’t used him because he does have pace and can stretch teams late on


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on September 26, 2017, 15:08:27 pm
Not sure on loan rules, but hopefully he smashes in the goals and gets a loan move higher up the pyramid in a months time.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 26, 2017, 15:08:50 pm
I’m surprised we haven’t used him because he does have pace and can stretch teams late on

Probably had the confidence knocked out of him during pre-season, JED playing him out wide, then berating him for 45-60 minutes non stop.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on September 26, 2017, 15:46:45 pm
Good move to send him to Corby. Will be interesting to see how he does.
I for one will be watching Corby Town's results with added interest now. It didn't do Joe Iaciofano any harm there. Go for it, Leon!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 27, 2017, 11:16:30 am
Lobjoit was at QPR, at the same time as JFH. Maybe Jimmy knows more about him than we thought.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: meccanostand on September 27, 2017, 13:44:17 pm
It's not as easy as 'see how he does' dropped down to Corby where he will likely get seven shades of **** kicked out of him. Can only judge him on League One football.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cobblertone on September 27, 2017, 13:48:01 pm
Don't know if it's correct but heard both loanees played last night and didn't score, so they are at least as good as what we have.  :P


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Spinney cobbler on September 27, 2017, 14:07:32 pm
Don't know if it's correct but heard both loanees played last night and didn't score, so they are at least as good as what we have.  :P
You heard wrong Iaciofano scored in a 3-1 win for Chesham.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cobblertone on September 27, 2017, 14:39:16 pm
You heard wrong Iaciofano scored in a 3-1 win for Chesham.

Thanks for the correction. I can tell my mate he knows nothing! They should have a shoot out, whoever gets the most goals in a month gets the shirt for a game or two.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on September 27, 2017, 18:48:48 pm
Don't know if it's correct but heard both loanees played last night and didn't score, so they are at least as good as what we have.  :P
In a way you are right. Haven't Corby Town got 2 of our loanees, Lewis Irwin and Leon Lobjoit?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Spinney cobbler on October 02, 2017, 19:17:31 pm
Leon scored for Corby in a 2-1 win on Saturday.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on October 02, 2017, 19:57:11 pm
Leon scored for Corby in a 2-1 win on Saturday.

Good news. Glad he's still in goalscoring form... Hopefully next loan is further up the ladder (if he's still not ready for the first team).


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Insider on October 05, 2017, 05:17:44 am
Iaciofano scored again on Tuesday night and set up their second in a 3-0 win over Aylesbury.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Boot and shoe on October 05, 2017, 09:06:40 am
These players scoring goals at this level means nothing .
If it was the conference then you would take notice .
Both should have played against Peterborough


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on October 05, 2017, 09:20:29 am
These players scoring goals at this level means nothing .
If it was the conference then you would take notice .
Both should have played against Peterborough

Playing games regularly at any level is better than sitting on the bench, yes they could have been used against P@@h but that would have been only one game in a month!
It is their equivalent to a mid-season pre-season.
The fact that they are both scoring/assisting goals is a bonus and means that they will come back into the squad with 90 minute fitness and ready to play when the manager feels it is appropriate.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on October 12, 2017, 08:14:10 am
And Leon scores yet again for Corby!! Hopefully when their month's loan is up both he and Joe will feature in the next League One match day squad. They must be given a chance!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on October 12, 2017, 08:40:56 am
And Leon scores yet again for Corby!! Hopefully when their month's loan is up both he and Joe will feature in the next League One match day squad. They must be given a chance!

Either in our squad, or at the very least on loan in the conference. The lad has goals in him.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: angrydad on October 12, 2017, 08:52:35 am
The transfer window restriction does not apply to clubs below the National League division.  Which explains why they can't try their hand in the "conference".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_window


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on October 12, 2017, 09:09:13 am
The transfer window restriction does not apply to clubs below the National League division.  Which explains why they can't try their hand in the "conference".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_window


Completely incorrect and Wikipedia as a source. We even have Coddington recently loaned to Wrexham.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/national-league

Look at the recent headlines... All loan signings in the past couple days.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2017, 09:47:56 am
Iaciofano scored again on Tuesday night and set up their second in a 3-0 win over Aylesbury.
Great next time we play Aylesbury I'm sure he will be in the squad, he's not good enough for L1 end of.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: angrydad on October 12, 2017, 10:00:06 am
Completely incorrect and Wikipedia as a source. We even have Coddington recently loaned to Wrexham.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/national-league

Look at the recent headlines... All loan signings in the past couple days.

I stand corrected.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cobbler150 on October 12, 2017, 10:36:54 am
Great next time we play Aylesbury I'm sure he will be in the squad, he's not good enough for L1 end of.

What makes you say that? Hes not started a game has he?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Benji on October 12, 2017, 11:26:41 am
Great next time we play Aylesbury I'm sure he will be in the squad, he's not good enough for L1 end of.
Do we have anything to lose, insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. playing Revell, Richards & Bowditch isn't working, we aren't scoring ANY goals so I can't really see how we can get any worse by changing the strikers.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on October 12, 2017, 11:29:26 am
Great next time we play Aylesbury I'm sure he will be in the squad, he's not good enough for L1 end of.
Love your positivity. You haven't got a clue! Look forward to you eating a large slice of humble pie.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: everbrite on October 12, 2017, 12:06:23 pm
Love your positivity. You haven't got a clue! Look forward to you eating a large slice of humble pie.


In this instance Man04 maybe right - some of us say give Lob a run in the first team but Hass inspite of chronic forward options has not deemed it sufficient even to include him on the bench. Seems to me that Hass and Man04 are temporarily in agreement.
By the way the lovely Caroline did ok on Saturday with her thoughtful interview. Very measured and kind.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 12, 2017, 12:07:38 pm
Great next time we play Aylesbury I'm sure he will be in the squad, he's not good enough for L1 end of.

How the heck do you know if they are good enough or not - My problem is they have never been given the oppertunity to show us.

The facts are both Richards and Revell are past it, on their way down in their carear and are not any longer good enough.

These boys we don't know as they have never had the oppertunity to show us (which is wrong in itself)

What the heck have we got to loose between now and xmas???

One thing is for sure if we continue with Richards and or Revell we maybe detached at the bottom come Jan


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: everbrite on October 12, 2017, 12:20:21 pm
How the heck do you know if they are good enough or not - My problem is they have never been given the oppertunity to show us.

The facts are both Richards and Revell are past it, on their way down in their carear and are not any longer good enough.

These boys we don't know as they have never had the oppertunity to show us (which is wrong in itself)

What the heck have we got to loose between now and xmas???

One thing is for sure if we continue with Richards and or Revell we maybe detached at the bottom come Jan

Throwing untried youthful teenagers into the scrap is not a good idea. Had they impressed in training no doubt they would have been given the opportunity. It seems to me they have not impressed current and past managers sufficiently. Perhaps that is the reason why they have gone out to clubs well below Conference level?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 12, 2017, 12:24:38 pm
Throwing untried youthful teenagers into the scrap is not a good idea. Had they impressed in training no doubt they would have been given the opportunity. It seems to me they have not impressed current and past managers sufficiently. Perhaps that is the reason why they have gone out to clubs well below Conference level?

So let's just continue with forwards that do not look like scoring then to address the issue hey!

We need Long bnack fit ASAP too, as I say we will be detached at the bottom by xmas at the rate we are going


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Poggy on October 12, 2017, 12:29:56 pm
The legacy of Page lives on with Revell.

Nothing against him personally but he was the wrong type of striker to sign and his presence has restricted recruitment in this area. And I guess in hindsight offering Rico another year was a wrong decision.



Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Wolvo on October 12, 2017, 13:05:32 pm
The legacy of Page lives on with Revell.

Nothing against him personally but he was the wrong type of striker to sign and his presence has restricted recruitment in this area. And I guess in hindsight offering Rico another year was a wrong decision.



I bet when Page first walked into his office, John Marquis was sat there looking for a contract to sign.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: threeinabed on October 12, 2017, 13:14:24 pm
So let's just continue with forwards that do not look like scoring then to address the issue hey!


correct - nothing will change if it stays the same


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: SteveRiches on October 12, 2017, 14:07:47 pm
Same size ball, same size goal. I don't subscribe to 'protecting' youngsters from the rigours of League One when the seniors already there have been unable to score a goal of their own in open play for so long that more of the same just shows suicidal tendencies.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Tabasco Kid on October 12, 2017, 19:55:42 pm
Throwing untried youthful teenagers into the scrap is not a good idea. Had they impressed in training no doubt they would have been given the opportunity.
If Rico or Revell are impressing in training, then I must be watching different games.
At what point does the word "untried" no longer become relevant ? All players are untried up to a point. And if the two lads are scoring, then they should be given the opportunity. Because no one else is scoring at the mo.
Ivan Toney took his chance when it was offered, its time to see if Leon and Joe are up to it.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 12, 2017, 20:11:56 pm
If they're not going to be tried then there's no point them being here.

Both of them have performed well at their respective loan clubs, hopefully the plan was to put them up against better opposition (although at the levels they are playing at thats debatable) see them do well and then introduce them into the first team squad here.

Seems like both have done all that they could do whilst they've been away.......had they been playing and failing to score then that would have said something. But the fact is both strikers have gone to their clubs and scored goals. Get them back, get them integrated and get them playing for NTFC....when we have the OAP's firing blanks up front it really is a no brainer!! Get them back now...and if they fail to perform by January what have we lost?? If one or both do perform it might make looking for a decent striker in the January sales not such an important issue as it currently appears. We might actually save ourselves a bit of money too!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on October 12, 2017, 20:16:20 pm
The danger of playing them is that they wouldn't win many balls fired at their head. Someone would have to play the ball to feet or into the channels on that lovely pitch.

Can't see it but would like to.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: cobblertone on October 12, 2017, 20:54:49 pm
It's another area JFH is getting a relatively 'easy ride'. Regardless of being an ex-striker of quality, he is currently managing one of our most sterile attacks in recent years, maybe ever! I know they aren't his signings but it may be no different to ex-defenders don't necessarily make the best defensive coaches.
If at least one of them isn't worth a place on the bench then they must be seriously off the pace, or he just doesn't rate them.
What an ideal opportunity to send a message to the players who rolled over last Saturday. It's not as though he has played a settled side so far.
Even if one played and had a poor game it's hardly going to destroy their confidence or be held against him.
The fact that many seem to think Hoskins is going to be our saviour speaks volumes of the hole we are in. I like him but it shows how much we have regressed since Wilder.
I'd rather see a centre half up front than R&R ever again!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: WasRambo on October 12, 2017, 22:09:26 pm
How would people assess Lobjoits (or Joes) potential compared to Toneys when he was thrown in?

I was genuinely excited when we signed Lobjoit, pretty disappointed he's not been given a proper chance. Especially when we've known that Rico and or Revs haven't worked for a long time now....


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 12, 2017, 22:37:14 pm
The danger of playing them is that they wouldn't win many balls fired at their head. Someone would have to play the ball to feet or into the channels on that lovely pitch.

Can't see it but would like to.

And how many balls have Richards and or Revell won arieally? ?? Very very few I would have said


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on October 13, 2017, 03:40:46 am
Same size ball, same size goal. I don't subscribe to 'protecting' youngsters from the rigours of League One when the seniors already there have been unable to score a goal of their own in open play for so long that more of the same just shows suicidal tendencies.
I wouldn’t play either of them Steve. I honestly think Harry Kane would struggle upfront for us at the minute? We just don’t create enough quality chances. Imagine if we had put either of them upfront last Saturday and the same thing would have happened? They would need a back bone of tungsten not to be affected by that, it could be the ruination of them? The problem at the moment in my book is creativity, and we need to be blooding those lads in a side playing well and with confidence. Chucking them in as Northampton Towns last hope comes at a risk that I wouldn’t take personally, although I fully understand the arguments for doing so. Having made my point I’m off to run for cover!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: DrillingCobbler on October 13, 2017, 06:53:48 am
I agree with Melbourne Cobbler. Here and now and all that…

By my reckoning, these two lads will be back for the Blackpool game. The two matches that follow are the FA Cup game and the silly game v Southampton under21's.

IF they continue to perform well for their respective non league teams between now and when they return, then theres 2 cup games that Id be looking to potentially give them a chance in. Dependent on the draw for the FA Cup to a degree, but certainly in the tinpot game straight afterwards.

For now, the creativity is the real issue. By the point of their return, hopefully McGguan will be up and running properly, JJ would have returned and Hoskins will also be fully functional. Failing those likelihood's, Revell may have fully adapted to his career moving role as a winger!  ;D

If those two kids had played at Rotherham or against Bristol Rovers, I very much doubt they would have scored. Lets get realistic here peeps…they are not the answer to the current problem. And by throwing them in at this particular point in time could destroy them before they even get up and running. Like I say, in a few weeks time things may be completely different….


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on October 13, 2017, 07:03:40 am
Whilst it would be a risk to play them is it not more of a risk not to? Remember Leon almost rescued the game at QPR with his effort that was headed off the line and we were down to 10 men at the time.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 13, 2017, 07:26:53 am
I wouldn’t play either of them Steve. I honestly think Harry Kane would struggle upfront for us at the minute? We just don’t create enough quality chances. Imagine if we had put either of them upfront last Saturday and the same thing would have happened? They would need a back bone of tungsten not to be affected by that, it could be the ruination of them? The problem at the moment in my book is creativity, and we need to be blooding those lads in a side playing well and with confidence. Chucking them in as Northampton Towns last hope comes at a risk that I wouldn’t take personally, although I fully understand the arguments for doing so. Having made my point I’m off to run for cover!

That's not strictly true, although we are not created nags and bags of chances, both R and R in each game they have played missed some very good chances. My point is neither actually look in the least bit like scoring a goal anytime soon, neither offer any pace, hold up play has generally been poor and for their sizes win little in the air. At the end of the day what have we got to lose. If we continue as we are we will be detached at the bottom by xmas


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Buster on October 13, 2017, 08:11:44 am
The reason they're out on loan is that the management (who are considerably better informed than anyone here) feel they need the experience... No different to why Poole is on loan with us as opposed to being given his chance in Man U's match day squad. It's a learning experience.

That said, even if they're not quite ready, our current situation and lack of goals probably justifies taking a punt on at least one of them right now.  Personally, I would give Lobjoit a start alongside Revell who, contrary to some comments on here, does win his fair share of headers and flick-ons and could potentially create openings for a strike partner.



Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on October 13, 2017, 08:25:04 am
Winning headers is one thing, having anyone with pace to react to flick ons or break forward from a lay off is quite another.
On Saturday Richards was played through and it was abundantly clear that he wasn't going anywhere, the defender had him for pace, forced him wide and then the shot wasn't really anything to trouble anyone. This highlighted to me more than ever that if he plays he needs supporting pace around him. Richards can finish and score in the right positions. Breaking off the last man is not going to happen anymore.

Any opposition knows this and plays a high line knowing it's reasonably safe choice. They're not getting behind and our lack of width shows it further.

Throw one in alongside an old warhorse and a midfield that may break forward to stretch play and it couldn't be any worse. Whether we can cope defensively is another matter.

With the amount of running in him you could stick Hanley up there to stretch the game!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Boot and shoe on October 13, 2017, 08:55:17 am
Winning headers is one thing, having anyone with pace to react to flick ons or break forward from a lay off is quite another.
On Saturday Richards was played through and it was abundantly clear that he wasn't going anywhere, the defender had him for pace, forced him wide and then the shot wasn't really anything to trouble anyone. This highlighted to me more than ever that if he plays he needs supporting pace around him. Richards can finish and score in the right positions. Breaking off the last man is not going to happen anymore.

Any opposition knows this and plays a high line knowing it's reasonably safe choice. They're not getting behind and our lack of width shows it further.

Throw one in alongside an old warhorse and a midfield that may break forward to stretch play and it couldn't be any worse. Whether we can cope defensively is another matter.

With the amount of running in him you could stick Hanley up there to stretch the game!

Spot on .
You might have thought that’s what Waters was brought in to do !
Unfortunately none of the managers rate him .
At the moment we play entirely in front of the opposition back four . Centre halves have a cigar against us because we don’t even win headers any more and have no runners from midfield .
Players like Powell and Bowditch that are supposed to provide this role , have simply failed and disappointed .


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Travelaway on October 13, 2017, 10:02:44 am
Did we not have a young lad a few years ago deemed not good enough only played a few games, went to Bishop's Stortford..wonder what happened to him...

If they dont get game time then, how can they show their worth..

Let Leon and Joe play a few games, cant get much worse than it is now.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: lordjord on October 13, 2017, 10:20:58 am
Did we not have a young lad a few years ago deemed not good enough only played a few games, went to Bishop's Stortford..wonder what happened to him...

If they dont get game time then, how can they show their worth..

Let Leon and Joe play a few games, cant get much worse than it is now.

Was that Lewis Wilson?


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Zen Master on October 13, 2017, 10:28:40 am
No


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: barton cobbler on October 13, 2017, 11:47:35 am
Did we not have a young lad a few years ago deemed not good enough only played a few games, went to Bishop's Stortford..wonder what happened to him...
He was at the Bristol match last Saturday !


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: the grumpy old man on October 13, 2017, 12:37:34 pm
Was that Lewis Wilson?

He means Steve Morrison. Played in the Prem and for Wales.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: threeinabed on October 13, 2017, 12:58:47 pm
for every steve morrison there is a courtney herbert, andy morrow, ryan thompson, joey benjamin, scott cross........................................


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: bri77 on October 13, 2017, 14:30:28 pm
The way we play we don't need 'big' strikers in the box. How many crosses do we actually get in for them?

I love Rico but if we maintain our 'style of play' he shouldn't be in the team.
Revs, just no. How many chances is he going to keep getting in the team without doing anything?

Would much rather try different combinations of Waters, Hoskins, Bowditch, Long and the loaned out lads. It really can't get any worse than it has been.

 


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Air-Dan on October 13, 2017, 14:35:21 pm
for every steve morrison there is a courtney herbert, andy morrow, ryan thompson, joey benjamin, scott cross........................................

Yeah but even if we'd had Courtney Herbert and Joey Benjamin up front on Saturday I doubt it would have been worse than 6-0.

At this stage anyone is worth their chance.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: lodgeadam on October 13, 2017, 17:14:52 pm
It really can't get any worse than it has been.

 

Oh Christ, you've done it now!


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: alton on October 13, 2017, 18:20:15 pm
Yeah but even if we'd had Courtney Herbert and Joey Benjamin up front on Saturday I doubt it would have been worse than 6-0.

At this stage anyone is worth their chance.

You're right, they couldn't score less than none.


Title: Re: Leon Lobjoit
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 13, 2017, 20:18:35 pm
for every steve morrison there is a courtney herbert, andy morrow, ryan thompson, joey benjamin, scott cross........................................

If you never play them we will never know!!!

We have nothing to lose