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Title: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 06, 2017, 14:49:08 pm
Next up for weary Cobblers is Bristol Rovers this Saturday, who include ex-Cobblers Billy Bodin and Adam Smith in their squad.

What are peoples thoughts on this one?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 06, 2017, 14:57:50 pm
Is this an easier game? According to Cobb78 it is.

3-0 Cobbs


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 06, 2017, 14:59:12 pm
Hopefully we've worked on winning penalties this week.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 06, 2017, 14:59:58 pm
Next upon for weary Cobblers is Bristol Rovers this Saturday, who include ex-Cobblers Billy Bodin and Adam Smith in their squad.

What are peoples thoughts on this one?

Have heard they are short of centre half's but far more to the point what will the side be, will Hanley and McWilliams etc be selected?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 06, 2017, 15:22:28 pm
Have heard they are short of centre half's but far more to the point what will the side be, will Hanley and McWilliams etc be selected?

Yes everbrite, both first choice centre halves are on international duty.

As for us, can't see Hanley starting. Hopefully, both McWilliams and Hoskins will be back on the bench.

Big question though, will McGugan start or also be on the bench?



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 06, 2017, 16:27:29 pm
McGugan has to start in this game .
We need goals and we have to win .
Surely he is not going to play Revell / Rico up front on their own ?
Waters has to partner one of them .
Sadly , I can only see us struggling


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 06, 2017, 17:01:23 pm
.
Sadly , I can only see us struggling
I can't


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: WadeyCobbler on October 06, 2017, 17:40:05 pm
I predict a 5-0 rout (to Cobblers obviously). Their makeshift centre-halves won't know what hit them.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Coolcat on October 06, 2017, 18:18:28 pm
Nice to see a normal match thread without a dumbass, not funny title...well done OP!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Coolcat on October 06, 2017, 18:20:00 pm
Is John Joe ready yet?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 06, 2017, 18:34:58 pm
Nice to see a normal match thread without a dumbass, not funny title...well done OP!

Thanks for that! But who's OP? Or am I being thick. 


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 06, 2017, 18:37:16 pm
Is John Joe ready yet?

No he's not ready, only back doing non-contact training as of Wednesday. Apparently, he's a floater - read into that what you will. 


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 06, 2017, 18:41:31 pm
I'd like to see the following but it is very unlikely with fitness doubts, I just think we need to take the Risk as we're desperate for a result. The only thing is there's not a lot of width but I'd prefer this to Powell or bowditch:                      
                                                    Ingram
                    
                    Moloney           Taylor             Pierre             Buchanan

                                  McWilliams    Grimes      Foley
                                                      Mcgugan
                                              
                                              Waters        Revell


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: just.reading on October 06, 2017, 18:45:10 pm
Thanks for that! But who's OP? Or am I being thick. 

You. OP = Original Poster


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 06, 2017, 18:49:23 pm
You. OP = Original Poster

Thanks, said I was being thick.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 06, 2017, 18:59:43 pm
I'd like to see the following but it is very unlikely with fitness doubts, I just think we need to take the Risk as we're desperate for a result. The only thing is there's not a lot of width but I'd prefer this to Powell or bowditch:                      
                                                    Ingram
                    
                    Moloney           Taylor             Pierre             Buchanan

                                  McWilliams    Grimes      Foley
                                                      Mcgugan
                                              
                                              Waters        Revell

From the players that are fit , I would agree with this .
Very narrow though and two central players playing wider.
Powell doesn’t justify his place I’m afraid and neither does Kasim


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 06, 2017, 19:09:04 pm
I know we’ve got several injured/unavailable but it shows how light we are in options in midfield and attack. We should really have kept hold of joe I or lobjoit as alternatives.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Coolcat on October 06, 2017, 19:21:00 pm
Surprised Slocombe is ahead of Smith for the Gas...they must know better!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Coolcat on October 06, 2017, 19:24:35 pm
I know we’ve got several injured/unavailable but it shows how light we are in options in midfield and attack. We should really have kept hold of joe I or lobjoit as alternatives.
Revs, Rico, Waters...that's half the zero. Just a clean sheet needed now!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 06, 2017, 19:31:15 pm
I know we’ve got several injured/unavailable but it shows how light we are in options in midfield and attack. We should really have kept hold of joe I or lobjoit as alternatives.

I don't - they have to prove themselves a bit more.To my mind they are hardly knocking on the door.

As for the team this Sat:

My gut feel both Kasim and Powell may start. Not sure if they deserve it tho'. Powell needs to be read the riot act . Perhaps JFH might go for Hanley or Smith in lieu of Powell. Hoskins appears to be fit.

He might even start with the side who finished against Boro' which of course includes Ingram & Grimes. Not so sure why people are lauding Foley as he was very rusty on Tuesday and his passing was not up to much. Would have 'fort JFH would use him as a sub. Alternatively pick the team who played Rovrum and stick Kasim in place of Poole. Not much of a replacement tho'. Will be interesting to see who he does select.

ps Forgot Bowditch who may well play instead of Poole.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Aitobs on October 06, 2017, 20:13:51 pm
My suggested starting XI:

RICHARDS (c)

HOSKINS  MCGUGAN  POWELL

GRIMES  McWILLIAMS

BUCHANAN  PIERRE  TAYLOR  MOLONEY

INGRAM


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 06, 2017, 20:21:57 pm
If we're being honest the keeper and back 4 picks itself - moloney injury permitting - and grimes will definitely play, apart from that the remaining 5 players is anyone's guess.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2235 on October 06, 2017, 20:40:28 pm
Nice to see a normal match thread without a dumbass, not funny title...well done OP!
I agree NP


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2235 on October 06, 2017, 20:47:11 pm
My suggested starting XI:

RICHARDS (c)

HOSKINS  MCGUGAN  POWELL

GRIMES  McWILLIAMS

BUCHANAN  PIERRE  TAYLOR  MOLONEY

INGRAM

Ingram as the lone striker??


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Aitobs on October 06, 2017, 20:51:47 pm
No  ;D But he's scored as many as Alex Revell in our last 450 minutes of football!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: RoversInPeace on October 06, 2017, 21:04:13 pm
Surprised Slocombe is ahead of Smith for the Gas...they must know better!
Smith has been absolute wank when he's played.
Slocombe looked very good.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Tabasco Kid on October 06, 2017, 21:21:02 pm
Smith has been absolute wank when he's played.
I said for a long time that Smith is not as good as he thinks he is.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2487 on October 06, 2017, 22:43:28 pm
I'd be surprised is Mcgugan starts.

Anyway. 8-0 to us.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: cobbler150 on October 07, 2017, 07:35:16 am
Foley has to start for balance.
Am i the only one who sees Waters as a poor Hoskins?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: The Rauldinho on October 07, 2017, 08:16:49 am
Foley has to start for balance.
Am i the only one who sees Waters as a poor Hoskins?

I'd like to see him played as a striker before writing him off.

I know he played wide left for Cheltenham at times but he doesn't look comfortable there for us.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 08:40:26 am
Ingram as the lone striker??

Can't believe that you think Richards is a goalie? Like the attacking four!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 08:42:48 am
I said for a long time that Smith is not as good as he thinks he is.



 ;D Trust you to cause a stir 8)


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 08:44:49 am
I'd like to see him played as a striker before writing him off.

I know he played wide left for Cheltenham at times but he doesn't look comfortable there for us.

Have you seen Foley play?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler78 on October 07, 2017, 08:56:43 am
Is this an easier game? According to Cobb78 it is.

3-0 Cobbs

Correct, you're getting there, easier than our last 5. Hopeful for 4 or 6 points from our next 2 games.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler78 on October 07, 2017, 08:59:53 am
My suggested starting XI:

RICHARDS (c)

HOSKINS  MCGUGAN  POWELL

GRIMES  McWILLIAMS

BUCHANAN  PIERRE  TAYLOR  MOLONEY

INGRAM

I like this, maybe Waters for Powell or Hoskins but the formation and personnel looks good to me.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler78 on October 07, 2017, 09:01:22 am
Have you seen Foley play?

Foley was our best player pre season, he will make a difference when fully fit.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 09:04:25 am
Foley was our best player pre season, he will make a difference when fully fit.

Lets hope he is more effective than last Tuesday


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 10:57:47 am
Correct, you're getting there, easier than our last 5. Hopeful for 4 or 6 points from our next 2 games.

Be happy with eight from the next three...


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cordwainer2 on October 07, 2017, 11:42:10 am
Be happy with eight from the next three...
How can you get 8points from 3 games?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: The Rauldinho on October 07, 2017, 11:51:29 am
Have you seen Foley play?

Yep, in pre-season.

Still not sure how that affects me wanting to see Waters played upfront rather on the wing?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2677 on October 07, 2017, 12:15:43 pm
How can you get 8points from 3 games?
That's why he'd be happy.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 12:20:35 pm
How can you get 8points from 3 games?

 ;)


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Tabasco Kid on October 07, 2017, 13:03:48 pm
Im not sure about this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLiWT6jXkAAc4Zv.jpg:large


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 13:08:57 pm
Urgh...the same feeling as when we played boro.. also, I thought Poole was with Wales? and why isn't he starting?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 13:15:08 pm
Im not sure about this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLiWT6jXkAAc4Zv.jpg:large

The only logic I can think behind it, is if they do have both 1st choice centre halves away maybe JFH feels playing both revs and Rico gives us the best chance of exploting it. Prepare for lots of high balls if that's the case


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 13:16:49 pm
Crappy line up...Rico and The Revmeister up top.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLiX4U9W4AAb-8w.jpg)


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2677 on October 07, 2017, 13:18:58 pm
Im not sure about this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLiWT6jXkAAc4Zv.jpg:large
That's not at all controversial..


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 13:22:15 pm
Great. I've already got a sore neck, whoosh!
I hope we get the points today, your honeymoon period is over Jimmy.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 13:28:15 pm
After seeing that line up I'm getting a very bad feeling here and its only 8.30am..


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler78 on October 07, 2017, 13:29:52 pm
The only logic I can think behind it, is if they do have both 1st choice centre halves away maybe JFH feels playing both revs and Rico gives us the best chance of exploting it. Prepare for lots of high balls if that's the case

This


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 13:39:15 pm
On what planet does JFH expect Rico and Revell to lead the line effectively.  There is precisely no previous evidence to suggest these two upfront will lead us to victory?! Bowditch?  :o

Surely we would be best to play our best team from the off (McG, McW, Waters etc), get on the front foot and hold a lead instead of inevitably chasing the game which sadly looks likely on this team line up.  Can only see a 0-2 defeat from this with perhaps a 80+ min consolation.

God I hope I'm wrong. Grimes and Foley need to be outstanding today in the middle for us to have a chance!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 13:44:49 pm
What did I say about the back 5 and grimes being the only players nailed on to start - I don’t think anyone would have predicted the other 5 today! I just hope that this pays off for JFH as I can sense the vultures starting to circle. Another case of puzzling selection is that George smith has vanished yet again - he was motm in his debut and since has been in the cold.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 13:49:47 pm
I hope Hass isn't going down the road as Page or Jed. He'll be gone by Xmas.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 13:50:27 pm
What did I say about the back 5 and grimes being the only players nailed on to start - I don’t think anyone would have predicted the other 5 today! I just hope that this pays off for JFH as I can sense the vultures starting to circle. Another case of puzzling selection is that George smith has vanished yet again - he was motm in his debut and since has been in the cold.

Dont get me wrong, I desperately want it to work and I believe - someone can correct me otherwise - that this is the first time JFH has tried Revs and Rico up front together?  If the result is not a positive one, I dont blame him for that - but his failing will be to play them AGAIN up front. It will be interested how he gets them to both work together and whether there is an individual game plan for both of them. If however the plan is to punt balls up them and hope for the best then we're doomed!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 13:55:52 pm
I heard him say in a recent interview that he has watched dvds of all the matches. So the first time he has played them arguement doesnt count.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 13:57:13 pm
Dont get me wrong, I desperately want it to work and I believe - someone can correct me otherwise - that this is the first time JFH has tried Revs and Rico up front together?  If the result is not a positive one, I dont blame him for that - but his failing will be to play them AGAIN up front. It will be interested how he gets them to both work together and whether there is an individual game plan for both of them. If however the plan is to punt balls up them and hope for the best then we're doomed!

He has gone for revs/Rico during at least one of the previous games but not from the start until today - one things for sure the closing down/press from the front isn’t going to work today!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 13:59:20 pm
I heard him say in a recent interview that he has watched dvds of all the matches. So the first time he has played them arguement doesnt count.

Trying to be positive that he has a game plan to implement!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 13:59:52 pm
Playing R&R was JED's mistake, let JFH make his own mistakes.  :P

Could be a master stroke.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 14:00:07 pm
There’s a fair representation from the Chinese contingent here today, I hope we put a decent show on for them.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 14:04:46 pm
No Baldy again..Partimer


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 07, 2017, 14:07:00 pm
 We should get a win here, we could do with a win. COME ON COBBLERS!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 14:08:40 pm
No Baldy again..Partimer
Hello.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 14:11:19 pm
Under pressure, corner after corner and decent save from the Ingmeister


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 14:17:26 pm
Good to see defender back on a match day.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 14:18:34 pm
Yeah but I'm still worried about Razor and CJ..


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:21:07 pm
M K down to 10 and getting stuffed


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 14:23:30 pm
Yeah but I'm still worried about Razor and CJ..
Part timers!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Insider on October 07, 2017, 14:27:59 pm
23rd minute marks 7 hours without a league goal.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:31:09 pm
23rd minute marks 7 hours without a league goal.

May well be another 7 hours the way things are looking!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 14:32:50 pm
We’re not dealing with gaffney well enough - he’s got Pierre on toast. Also Grimes has got to get his set piece delivery sorted. How there hasn’t been a goal is beyond me as neither team can defend.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 14:39:02 pm
Drat 0-1


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 14:40:12 pm
Bodin - how predictable.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 07, 2017, 14:40:24 pm
We're fooked I never seen such a crap one dimensional team.

I'm done for today..



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 14:41:07 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 07, 2017, 14:42:00 pm
Drat 0-1
How's the R & R thing going, I'm on Noddy at the minute?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:43:14 pm
That was only a matter of time!

It's just a case of how many they will score at present!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 14:45:50 pm
Cobblers save a penalty!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:46:23 pm
There’s a fair representation from the Chinese contingent here today, I hope we put a decent show on for them.

Oh dear!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:47:45 pm
We could feasible lose this 3/4-0 and Ingram still mom and has had a blinder so far. Says it all!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:49:12 pm
We are being peed on!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:49:23 pm
Jimmy Out


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:50:07 pm
How is it possible the two young boys up top are still out on loan, given the shower of s*** we have in our first team up front


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 14:50:20 pm
We are all over the place - how it’s only 1 is amazing. Pierre’s been awful. We’ve also picked up another injury to an important player. Why grimes is playing so deep is beyond me - he is totally wasted playing where he is.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: The Rauldinho on October 07, 2017, 14:51:08 pm
Putting a positive spin on things, that was a terrible half of football.

Revs seems to be playing wide on the right and we look lightweight through the middle. We have created chances without looking like scoring.

Ingram MoM already, has kept it to one rather than three or four.

Can't wait to go home.....


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:52:24 pm
Revell and Richards, that was enough for people to give JED a hard time.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 14:53:56 pm
First 10/15 minutes we weren't too bad, still toothless but not too bad. Then we dropped deeper and deeper to the point where Revell was playing right back, he even managed to give away a penalty with a typical strikers tackle.
No creativity and nothing up front, Foley anon, Pierre abysmal.....Buchanan has made a couple of important blocks and Ingram a couple of good saves.....5-0 down wouldn't have been too unfair....we are awful!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Shoemaker on October 07, 2017, 14:55:34 pm
Come on cobblers show your undoubted quality second half.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 14:57:07 pm
Entertaining half but it should be 3 or 4 with a stupid pen to give away.
The pace they have up front is scary compared to our forward line. I'm not sure how Gaffney didn't nod it in on the stroke of half time. Ingram been a busy boy.
We had a good 10-15 minutes but failed to trouble their keeper. If we start the second half we'll and nick a goal then Rovers may rue the amount of chances they had.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 07, 2017, 14:58:07 pm
Revell and Richards, that was enough for people to give JED a hard time.
With the added inclusion of the completely useless Bowditch


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: TownOwl on October 07, 2017, 14:59:41 pm
It was never a penalty from where I was sitting. Good job Rovers are nearly as bad at finishing as us.

Don’t worry, a change or two at half time and we’ll be dying second half.

That “shot” by Rico though  ;D


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:03:18 pm
It was never a penalty from where I was sitting. Good job Rovers are nearly as bad at finishing as us.

Don’t worry, a change or two at half time and we’ll be dying second half.

That “shot” by Rico though  ;D

Looked it from side on. I'll wait for the replay, stupid tackle. Most importantly the ref did. What an awful pen though.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:04:24 pm
9 hours since a Cobblers player scored....and we're off again...


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 15:04:58 pm
It was never a penalty from where I was sitting. Good job Rovers are nearly as bad at finishing as us.

Don’t worry, a change or two at half time and we’ll be dying second half.

That “shot” by Rico though  ;D

You what - it was a stonewall penalty, a crap strikers tackle, none of our players complained and revs went as he knew what he’d done. God knows why he hasn’t changed it at half time.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:16:13 pm
Sweet Jesus!!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:16:17 pm
Jesus....


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:16:58 pm
When are these easier games coming?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:17:20 pm
Garbage!! 5ft 10 player beats Pierre to the jump and its 0-2


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:17:54 pm
When are these easier games coming?

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:18:14 pm
When are these easier games coming?

Every game will be a hard one as every team will soon be above us!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Air-Dan on October 07, 2017, 15:19:39 pm
3-0


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:20:16 pm
Disgraceful.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:21:02 pm
Even worse.....asleep as they take a quick free kick and bingo, 0-3, schoolboy stuff!

Quite a few upped and left with half an hour to go!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:22:34 pm
3-0

It's like deja vue from the page sack day


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:22:42 pm
I blame Dr. Feelgood.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 07, 2017, 15:24:01 pm
Getting absolutely slaughtered on Noddy by Harper and Tim so you know it's bad. Too many injuries, too imbalanced a squad and too many players past it.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:25:39 pm
I'm so f***ing angry!  As soon as I saw that line-up I put money on a defeat. I very nearly did what I did for the 'Boro slaughter and put us on to lose by 3+ goals but genuinely thought a JFH wouldnt get destroyed.  Why and WHEN WILL WE LEARN that R&R do NOT WORK UP TOP TOGETHER!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:26:20 pm
We have made them look a helluva lot better than what they are.
I think Jimmy is already under some pressure on the back of this hiding.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:27:14 pm
Red card for Revell, at least that rules him out for a bit!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 15:27:36 pm
It compounds matters when JFH and Austin start turning round telling the crowd to support, needless to say that didn’t go down very well.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 07, 2017, 15:30:16 pm
Red card for Revell, at least that rules him out for a bit!!
First bit of good news


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Insider on October 07, 2017, 15:30:50 pm
I'm so f***ing angry!  As soon as I saw that line-up I put money on a defeat. I very nearly did what I did for the 'Boro slaughter and put us on to lose by 3+ goals but genuinely thought a JFH wouldnt get destroyed.  Why and WHEN WILL WE LEARN that R&R do NOT WORK UP TOP TOGETHER!

Put it on him resigning before Xmas 😉


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Air-Dan on October 07, 2017, 15:31:11 pm
4-0


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:31:46 pm
Oh dear.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:32:12 pm
Switched off again, seems to be a common theme.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:33:07 pm
Are the big Chinese contingent still in the crowd??? 😂


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:34:03 pm
In hindsight this may not have been Jimmy's best career move.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: WasRambo on October 07, 2017, 15:34:30 pm
Hello.
Goodbye.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Shoemaker on October 07, 2017, 15:34:44 pm
Are the big Chinese contingent still in the crowd??? 😂
More importantly can any of them play.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 15:35:19 pm
Are the big Chinese contingent still in the crowd??? 😂

Yes but half of them are laughing and joking amongst themselves so I think it’s fair to say that they don’t understand football - 5 now!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 15:35:40 pm
I applauded that one....quality.....0-5


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:36:08 pm
Stonking 5th goal


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 07, 2017, 15:36:45 pm
Hello.
Goodbye.
Goodnight everyone, see you all next week.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:38:27 pm
 
More importantly can any of them play.
;D


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest143 on October 07, 2017, 15:38:42 pm
I'm unsure how JFH is selecting these teams. Revell has scored once all season, I don't care if he works hard, always has his laces tied up and is experienced, he's objectively not doing the job a striker should. The midfield selection provided no logic asides from Grimes, who can distribute but he needs a dogged midfielder with a high work-rate with him. Bowditch is lightweight, Foley has just returned from injury, Raheem isn't going to run and beat players like Smith did against Donny. I'm aware we have injuries but I was highly sceptical when viewing the teamsheet. Rovers have their two first choice CB's out, and we have no speed to exploit them with.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:38:45 pm
Not being funny but will JFH walk after this?... So damaging to confidence a hammering like this.  Will he be able to pick them off the floor.  


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: southofthecounty on October 07, 2017, 15:39:32 pm
On my way home from the game. A little angry but mostly embarrassed.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: RoversInPeace on October 07, 2017, 15:39:50 pm
Oh my. Sorry for this lads!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Insider on October 07, 2017, 15:41:56 pm
Not being funny but will JFH walk after this?... So damaging to confidence a hammering like this.  Will he be able to pick them off the floor.  


From what I a reading on Companies House, JFH is racing KT to the door.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 15:43:38 pm
From what I a reading on Companies House, JFH is racing KT to the door.

Elaborate please - I’m not in the mood for riddles


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:43:59 pm
Can we have a shot on target please?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Baldy on October 07, 2017, 15:47:10 pm
6 now!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:47:49 pm
Being serious but can he continue after this. 6 bloody nil  :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: RoversInPeace on October 07, 2017, 15:47:52 pm
What on earth is happening?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: WasRambo on October 07, 2017, 15:49:16 pm
Total embarrassment.

Will JFH survive this? Tonked by a struggling side. We are well and truly in it...


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:52:51 pm
Full time.... time to get smashed


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 07, 2017, 15:55:35 pm
Is this the biggest ever loss at sixfields


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 15:56:31 pm
I only stopped to watch the idiots clap us off. At times Rovers looked like Brazil. Red card or not that could have been double figures. We'd struggle in league two with this bunch of misfits.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: fwalden on October 07, 2017, 15:57:28 pm
Is this the biggest ever loss at sixfields

Biggest ever at sixfields, worst defeat since 1970


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on October 07, 2017, 15:58:20 pm
Is this the biggest ever loss at sixfields

Yes


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: just.reading on October 07, 2017, 15:59:05 pm
Total embarrassment.

Will JFH survive this? Tonked by a struggling side. We are well and truly in it...

Incorrect, rovers are now 12th, so are top half of the table, so a hard game. 0-6 is a realistic score.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2017, 16:02:52 pm
I've never seen a worse performance than that since I was taken to my first game in 1996.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:03:06 pm
That was as bad as anything under JED. We looked disinterested and completely off the pace for most of the game and our defending was simply shocking.

Why change the formation yet again? Why not Smith instead of Hamley - far more likely to beat a man and get a cross in? Richards and Revell together - again!!!!  :'(  :'(. Maloney will be a big miss if he's injured McGugan and Hoskins at least looked bright when they came on. We never looked like winning today and only offered a goal threat very briefly.

We must stick with JFH and I think he'll do weel eventually. At least he's trying new things and they are not his players, but today's team always looked like it would struggle. However, I always thought I'd see 100% under him and that didn't happen today.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 16:04:16 pm
Incorrect, rovers are now 12th, so are top half of the table, so a hard game. 0-6 is a realistic score.

Not sure what the rules are, before or after the game. I'm sure he'll be predicting mid table later  ;D

Playing R&R will end up costing the third manager their job at this rate.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2487 on October 07, 2017, 16:05:24 pm
Shambles. Should have been 10.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 16:05:41 pm
continuing on from someone else's managerial successes does not make you a good manager.. he has NO pedigree whatsoever.. after a short spell at Burton he gets a move to QPR and did nothing, ask their fans!!clueless appointment. Revell/Rico partnership thankfully is over for a while!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on October 07, 2017, 16:08:10 pm
You can't sack Jimmy. It's the fcuking bottom feeders on the pitch that need the sack. Whilst halfwits keep pointing the finger at the manager, those tossers keep taking the money for doing sweet FA..


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Aitobs on October 07, 2017, 16:08:29 pm
That was the worst Cobblers performance I've ever seen, no doubt about that.

JFH- resign!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Aitobs on October 07, 2017, 16:09:35 pm
You can't sack Jimmy. It's the fcuking bottom feeders on the pitch that need the sack. Whilst halfwits keep pointing the finger at the manager, those tossers keep taking the money for doing sweet FA..

Revell has done sweet FA for the last twenty odd games and he still starts for us. That's the manager's fault.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:13:56 pm
I thought it couldn't get any worse - oh no wait. Cue Caroline. Ask some Questions. The texts even gave you a couple and you ignored them.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 16:14:40 pm
I thought it couldn't get any worse - oh no wait. Cue Caroline. Ask some Questions.

Or not ask 'any'!!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2487 on October 07, 2017, 16:15:11 pm
Equally shambolic interview to go with the performance.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Tabasco Kid on October 07, 2017, 16:17:15 pm
That's not at all controversial..
Nah.. correct though.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler78 on October 07, 2017, 16:17:29 pm
Incorrect, rovers are now 12th, so are top half of the table, so a hard game. 0-6 is a realistic score.

Correct.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest143 on October 07, 2017, 16:17:41 pm
Hanley's twitter is a monologue of virtue signalling and constant self-praise because he got in the starting line-up/bench. After MK he was constantly retweeting fans praise as if he'd won player of the season. (#wegoagain) (#hardworkpaysoff) blahblahblah. Too many self entitled players like this.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:17:57 pm
Well thank god Revel is banned, shame Richards didn't get sent off as well


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: corno_ntfc on October 07, 2017, 16:18:03 pm
Awful performance, but JFH has to take a portion of blame with a very-odd lineup.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: southofthecounty on October 07, 2017, 16:21:33 pm
And anyone says Grimes is Premiership quality is having a laugh.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:25:47 pm
I've said it many times before, this club is cursed.

Most seasons are depressingly bad, and when there is the odd good one everybody f***s off and it's followed by a shower of s***.

This club is never going higher than League 1.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Topcob on October 07, 2017, 16:26:15 pm
JFH can only work with what he's got and unfortunately it's not much at all. But playing 2 lads up front who are there to hold the ball up  and score yet not playing with any natural wingers to help them out and having every single player back to defend corners so when we do clear it, it just keeps coming back.....

This team needs a change of Manager, players, council, chairman.. when we get at least three of them changed we could do okay 👀


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 16:26:47 pm
Correct.

Hahahaha that raised a needed smile. So now it only counts after the game. We are sure doing our bit to get every team we play a foot up the table.
"Right boys, we're not quite sure if this is one of the easier games we'll face but I'll get back to you after the final whistle."

5pm
"So boys, it turns out that was a toughie. We were always going to struggle to win that."  ;D


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:27:06 pm
I don't buy everybody saying the squad isn't good enough.

Signing after signing this summer you all were saying how great the signings were??

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ItsaSetPieceDivision on October 07, 2017, 16:27:35 pm
Let's face it we're crap. End of.

No doubt there will be calls for JFH to go, but who are you going to get in? They'll inherit a crap squad full of injuries and inability.

That said today's lineup looked doomed to fail from the start and the manager has to take responsibility for that.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:30:24 pm
I was pretty much happy with every player we signed. Just not with the positions they played. We are not going to get a better 'quality' player.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: singcobb on October 07, 2017, 16:32:18 pm
So it would appear we are to be the league 1 punching bag this season and anyone who draws or god forbid loses to us will be screaming for their manager's head.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: bungle on October 07, 2017, 16:34:25 pm
Deep breath.

1.First time we've conceded more than two under JFH. (Also before today we'd only conceded more than one in the Southend game). Up until today you'd have to say that he had improved us defensively in the 9 games he's had in charge.  

2. We have an injury crisis. It's not an excuse, but it is a mitigating factor. Things will improve when JJOT, McWilliams, Long, Crooks etc come back. Also, where was Kasim today?

3. We knew we were beaten when we saw the team sheet. Three successive managers have now selected Rico and Revell up front together. I hope and pray that unlike the other two, JFH will learn from his mistakes and NEVER DO THIS AGAIN. The midfield selection was also going to be too lightweight and given the circumstances it's a miracle that we held out until the 38th minute without conceding. If we're going to go with 4-4-2, give Waters a chance. If not, stick with 4-2-3-1 - at least we look relatively solid.

For the first time in his tenure with us, JFH has messed up big time today. Up and until today, I'd say that people were pretty happy. Let's hope that this is just a one off aberration and not symptomatic of a wider malaise. Like I say, I'm just hoping that unlike his less than illustrious predecessors he shows the capacity to learn from his mistakes. I will say this: if a manager ever selects Revell and Rico up front together again they should prepare for a mass walk out.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 07, 2017, 16:35:01 pm
I don't buy everybody saying the squad isn't good enough.

Signing after signing this summer you all were saying how great the signings were??

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I got a slagging from irchy for saying the Bowditch signing was underwhelming


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:37:42 pm
I got a slagging from irchy for saying the Bowditch signing was underwhelming

Mad isn't it mate, everybody on here was wanking off all the signings and now they all say they're not good enough.

Our fan base is just as embarrassing as the team.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 16:38:11 pm
I've said it many times before, this club is cursed.

Most seasons are depressingly bad, and when there is the odd good one everybody f***s off and it's followed by a shower of ****.

This club is never going higher than League 1.

Without being overly dramatic I am starting to wonder if we are cursed, either that or more likely we are just generally mismanaged and the championship season was the exception to the rule.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 07, 2017, 16:39:18 pm
Of course the manager takes a large proportion of the rap. He came here knowing what he had to work with. He picks the team, he decides the formation and it is his job to motivate them. They didn't look they were anymore interested in playing for him than JED today. The only one coming out with any credit was Ingram, I felt sorry for him. He is not going to be afforded the luxury of shipping out all of the players he doesn't rate, he'll be long gone before then.
Let's hope this was one big blip after some tight games, although I can't see us scoring many at all.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:39:58 pm
Correct.

At least you keep entertaining us in a very dark hour


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:43:02 pm
It feels like you've realised the love of your life has gone and not one person you've tried since is going to be as good. Wilder was a perfect match and we are doomed till we die.

*insert more appropriate word than 'tried'


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 16:44:37 pm
Mad isn't it mate, everybody on here was wanking off all the signings and now they all say they're not good enough.

Our fan base is just as embarrassing as the team.

I thought bowditch was one of our better players for the first 20/25 minutes but granted he has been disappointing for us - what other reaction should I have had when we signed him, I like to give all new signings the benefit of the doubt before they’ve even kicked a ball for us.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Buster on October 07, 2017, 16:46:38 pm
I've never seen a worse performance than that since I was taken to my first game in 1996.

You clearly didn't travel to Bristol last season... 


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Tabasco Kid on October 07, 2017, 16:47:25 pm
I will say this: if a manager ever selects Revell and Rico up front together again they should prepare for a mass walk out.
I will echo that Bungle. That was my opinion before kick off.






Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2017, 16:49:42 pm
You clearly didn't travel to Bristol last season... 

You are correct. Rare away game missed.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 16:51:06 pm
I’ve just heard Rico say “ it was an even first half “
What a prat .
We should have been 5.0 down .
You are taking the p*** out of the supporters pal


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobblersmad on October 07, 2017, 16:51:12 pm
Do we think this is worse than the 7-2 against Shrewsbury?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 16:57:45 pm
Do we think this is worse than the 7-2 against Shrewsbury?

Not quite, at least we competed for 15 minutes today...the capitulation in the end was the same.....


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2017, 17:00:20 pm
Do we think this is worse than the 7-2 against Shrewsbury?

We had a significantly weaker group of players. Today was worse for me.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 17:00:48 pm
It’s laughable that they seem to be hiding behind the controversy of the Rico/revs partnership by saying that revs actually started on the right so it shouldn’t be classed as a partnership! I wish I had a season ticket to training instead of the league if we play like Rico seems to suggest behind closed doors.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Martin on October 07, 2017, 17:02:19 pm
This was pitiful. Apart from Ingram the players should be ashamed to collect their wages as should JFH. They showed no pride or passion, little ability either. What can we expect next week against one of the poorer teams in the division? Bearing in mind the injuries I wonder what changes JFH can make. I suppose that McWilliams will come in and McGugan will start but who will fill in at right back? Up front we might as well recall Iaciofano and Lobjoit from their loans and try them - they cannot be worse than Richards and Revell. I sincerely hope that neither pulls on a claret shirt again. Waters deserves a chance as well.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Welly Cobb on October 07, 2017, 17:02:53 pm
With the Shrewsbury game, I remember Langmead basically punching the last goal into our net while lying on a floor and thinking that he must be the worst centre-back who had ever played for us.

Change of manager, change of system, and he was player of the year the following season. A bad manager and a bad system can make good players crap.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Ed on October 07, 2017, 17:05:56 pm
Iaciofano scored again today. Albeit at semi pro level... think that's 3 in 3 now.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: EssTeeFree on October 07, 2017, 17:08:50 pm
It’s laughable that they seem to be hiding behind the controversy of the Rico/revs partnership by saying that revs actually started on the right so it shouldn’t be classed as a partnership! I wish I had a season ticket to training instead of the league if we play like Rico seems to suggest behind closed doors.

Only one thing worse than Rico/Revs partnership is one of them up front and the other on the wing


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 17:09:29 pm
This was pitiful. Apart from Ingram the players should be ashamed to collect their wages as should JFH. They showed no pride or passion, little ability either. What can we expect next week against one of the poorer teams in the division? Bearing in mind the injuries I wonder what changes JFH can make. I suppose that McWilliams will come in and McGugan will start but who will fill in at right back? Up front we might as well recall Iaciofano and Lobjoit from their loans and try them - they cannot be worse than Richards and Revell. I sincerely hope that neither pulls on a claret shirt again. Waters deserves a chance as well.

We’ve got no choice but to play Poole at rb which means we’re taking away from midfield where he’s been excellent - it’s all a mess at the moment.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Monty on October 07, 2017, 17:09:40 pm
Revs took one for the team today. If our succession of misguided managers can't see what's staring them straight in the face at least a ban for violent conduct will force them to try a new plan.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobblersmad on October 07, 2017, 17:13:50 pm
The shorts on some of the players were as white in the last minute as they were in the first. They wouldn't have needed a post match shower. I feel for Ingram. Made about five decent saves, including a penalty, yet still sees 6 fly past him. I don't know what was up with Taylor. He just wasn't in the game. Grimes had a absolute shocker, and I don't understand the logic of playing Revell on the right in a 4231.  What a disappointment today was.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 17:16:32 pm
The shorts on some of the players were as white in the last minute as they were in the first. They wouldn't have needed a post match shower. I feel for Ingram. Made about five decent saves, including a penalty, yet still sees 6 fly past him. I don't know what was up with Taylor. He just wasn't in the game. Grimes had a absolute shocker, and I don't understand the logic of playing Revell on the right in a 4231.  What a disappointment today was.

The only other player to come out of it a semblance of credit was Hoskins who must have played himself into the team for next week. All of the players on the bench except Cornell can expect to be starters against Wimbledon.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Bertie on October 07, 2017, 17:30:12 pm
Alarmed by the strange starting line up, and depressed by the fiasco that unfolded. Too many passengers, too many playing out of position. But really didn't see that coming - we looked like being a hard working side who were struggling to score - but that was just awful, and could have been even worse.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2677 on October 07, 2017, 17:34:38 pm
Pace and width, simple really.
Rovers had it in abundance and we had neither. They tore us apart and Jimmy didn't seem to understand why or respond, and even sounded surprised at the way events unfolded on radio interview.
We may have an abundance of injuries but he could still have selected a stronger more balanced team than that. It's an obvious thing to say but he clearly doesn't know what his best eleven are regardless of who's under the physio.




Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Artlenock Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 17:43:46 pm
Injuries, injuries, always loads of f**king injuries when we are struggling. Funny how we had so few when we were top of Div 2.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 07, 2017, 17:59:28 pm
Certainly plenty of questions after that performance and selection.

Why didn't McWilliams start if he was fit enough to be on the bench.
Why did Foley start when he's clearly not fit.
Why did Revell play on the right, when there were other options like Powell, Waters or Hoskins.
Why did Hanley start, but there was no sign of Smith in the 18.
Why didn't Poole play in midfield where he's been good recently.

So many strange decisions. The only explanation I can suggest is that JFH is looking at different options and is making judgements about players. But in my opinion he needs find a team and formation that works then stick with it so the players can get accustomed to it.

Needless to say a very bad day. I wonder what Page and Edinburgh think.






Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Buster on October 07, 2017, 18:03:29 pm
I’ve just heard Rico say “ it was an even first half “
What a prat .
We should have been 5.0 down .
You are taking the p*** out of the supporters pal

Really?  Did he really say say that?  We were SO lucky to just be 1-0 down at half time.  By half time Rovers had several clear cut chances besides the missed penalty, we'd created nothing.  


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: paul thompson is on October 07, 2017, 18:05:46 pm
Poor team.
poor tactics,
poor player attitude,

Who job is it to sort it out?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 18:17:41 pm
Really?  Did he really say say that?  We were SO lucky to just be 1-0 down at half time.  By half time Rovers had several clear cut chances besides the missed penalty, we'd created nothing.  

To be fair tim Oglethorpe was asking Rico the questions that Caroline should have asked Hasselbaink - it was a bit unfair on Rico and made for pretty uncomfortable listening at times and despite being a club legend he didn’t cover himself in glory with his answers.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on October 07, 2017, 18:39:02 pm
Poor team selection, no midfield and no strikers worthy of that description. In short, this side was totally unbalanced and we made a mid-table L1 team look like world beaters.  Not sure too many of this side have any future with NTFC.  The Chinese were there in numbers today. What must they be thinking?  KT chose a good day to be away on his other business. 

When the dust settles I think KT & Graham Carr need to have a hard discussion concerning player recruitment because from what I have seen in this post Wilder era it is just not good enough.  JFH has inherited a group of players who don't look suitable for this level and worse still some of them did not look very committed today.  JFH did not help with a strange team selection and for sure if he had a honeymoon period it is most definitely over.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 18:42:59 pm
Poor team selection, no midfield and no strikers worthy of that description. In short, this side was totally unbalanced and we made a mid-table L1 team look like world beaters.  Not sure too many of this side have any future with NTFC.  The Chinese were there in numbers today. What must they be thinking?  KT chose a good day to be away on his other business. 

When the dust settles I think KT & Graham Carr need to have a hard discussion concerning player recruitment because from what I have seen in this post Wilder era it is just not good enough.  JFH has inherited a group of players who don't look suitable for this level and worse still some of them did not look very committed today.  JFH did not help with a strange team selection and for sure if he had a honeymoon period it is most definitely over.

Spot on - absolutely no one comes out of this with any credit, this is the culmination of the last 2 crap managers and their totally inadequate recruitment. I've got to say, when we've now got graham Carr who was chief scout/recruitment at Newcastle why do we still need Melville?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BackOfTheNet on October 07, 2017, 18:51:45 pm
We were pitiful today. An utter shambles. A very odd team selection didn't help but the whole lot of them were clueless. I know most people on here think he's great but I'm sorry, Grimes is shìte. Yes, he's neat and tidy but he adds nothing to the team either in an attacking or defensive capacity. I'm thoroughly sick of him taking our set pieces too - 80% of them just hit the first man and the other 20% go sailing over everyone and out of bounds. Surely there's someone else amongst a group of professional footballers that is capable of hitting a dead ball?!? I know he was  played deep today, but that's my view formed since he joined us, not just today.

Not only did we ship 6, Ingram saved 3 one on ones and a penalty. That's 10-0 they should have had right there, never mind the multitude of others they could have had. Still, in some ways, a hammering might help in the long term; a series of narrow 1 goal defeats paper over the cracks a bit. A thumping focuses the mind a little more.

To top off a crap afternoon, two of our idiot children who are old enough to know better have just flooded the bathroom and we now have water pìssing through the kitchen ceiling. What a lovely day.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 18:56:33 pm
  JFH has inherited a group of players who don't look suitable for this level and worse still some of them did not look very committed today.  JFH did not help with a strange team selection and for sure if he had a honeymoon period it is most definitely over.

Agreed......at least there had been effort before today, but the way we rolled over was just embarrassing. The players have the wrong mentality, they have done under Page, and again under Edinburgh....I hope that was a one off under JFH.....although I fear that with this group it won't be.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 19:00:14 pm
Agreed......at least there had been effort before today, but the way we rolled over was just embarrassing. The players have the wrong mentality, they have done under Page, and again under Edinburgh....I hope that was a one off under JFH.....although I fear that with this group it won't be.

It was one of the things I remember from Wilder when he used to say a signing is all about his character and the effect he is going to have in the dressing room, playing ability comes 2nd to that. Imo we have quite a few 'bad eggs'.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 19:01:43 pm
We were pitiful today. An utter shambles. A very odd team selection didn't help but the whole lot of them were clueless. I know most people on here think he's great but I'm sorry, Grimes is shìte. Yes, he's neat and tidy but he adds nothing to the team either in an attacking or defensive capacity. I'm thoroughly sick of him taking our set pieces too - 80% of them just hit the first man and the other 20% go sailing over everyone and out of bounds. Surely there's someone else amongst a group of professional footballers that is capable of hitting a dead ball?!? I know he was  played deep today, but that's my view formed since he joined us, not just today.

Not only did we ship 6, Ingram saved 3 one on ones and a penalty. That's 10-0 they should have had right there, never mind the multitude of others they could have had. Still, in some ways, a hammering might help in the long term; a series of narrow 1 goal defeats paper over the cracks a bit. A thumping focuses the mind a little more.

To top off a crap afternoon, two of our idiot children who are old enough to know better have just flooded the bathroom and we now have water pìssing through the kitchen ceiling. What a lovely day.

Grimes is so frustrating - there is clearly a talented player in there but when he has a poor game his head goes down far too easily. Also on his set pieces why does he do that annoying thing of making sure that he keeps his head still and down over the ball and doesn't look up - it means that when he strikes it he's got a completely unnatural body position and can't actually see where he's aiming for.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BackOfTheNet on October 07, 2017, 19:01:58 pm
Agreed......at least there had been effort before today, but the way we rolled over was just embarrassing. The players have the wrong mentality, they have done under Page, and again under Edinburgh....I hope that was a one off under JFH.....although I fear that with this group it won't be.

Yeah, I was going to comment on that aspect too until I was distracted by the ceiling - I can accept a battering from a superior team, but I can't accept a complete surrender as we saw today. As soon as Revs was sent off they just gave up completely and it was embarrassing.  Only Hoskins showed any pride or spirit in those last few minutes.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: just.reading on October 07, 2017, 19:07:11 pm
Imo we have quite a few 'bad eggs'.

Care to name them?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 19:13:14 pm
Care to name them?

No just have a feeling, could be right, could be wrong but something certainly is very wrong.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 19:39:09 pm
Really?  Did he really say say that?  We were SO lucky to just be 1-0 down at half time.  By half time Rovers had several clear cut chances besides the missed penalty, we'd created nothing.  
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I promise you he said that ....
listen on utube .
To say we had 50% of the game until half time is nothing short of fiction .
I understand he has to come out fighting but don’t take the fans for mugs


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Aitobs on October 07, 2017, 19:52:03 pm
Right. I've had a bit of time to collect my thoughts after witnessing that pitiful, disgraceful, pathetic drubbing. Here's what I think.


First things first, YES most of the players were awful, but the manager has to take most of the blame for that loss. He picks the team, and the choices were bizarre. Richards and Revell up front together didn't work for Page, it didn't work for Edinburgh, and it certainly hasn't worked for JFH. The manager is also in charge of adapting the system at half-time when it was quite clearly not working in the first half, and he failed to do that. He decides on the substitutions, and although one of them was forced due to injury, the other two were his selections. Why did he take off Hanley for Hoskins when Revell was so terrible, and Hanley one of our 'better' (and I use the term lightly) players? Also, JFH is supposed to be a defensive coach! He has said he likes to win games by one goal and defend well. Any suggestion that JFH knows how to coach defensively was put to the sword today.

The tactics were abysmal. Having all our outfield players back to defend corners gave us no opportunity to counter-attack or even collect the ball once we had cleared it. And we didn't even manage to defend some of the corners anyway!

I for one don't think Bristol Rovers were actually a very good side. They're a mid-table League One outfit who know how to attack, and have players who can finish. We looked like a struggling National League team today.

Our defending was shambolic- Taylor in particular had a shocker, while Buchanan gets worse with every game he plays this season. Why isn't George Smith being given a run out? Pierre was only marginally better than Taylor, while Moloney is now injured. I felt sorry for Regan Poole being played out of position. If only we hadn't have released Neal Eardley in the summer! How we need him now.

Ingram did well to save the penalty and his other good saves stopped it from being eight or nine, but he must be wondering what he's got himself involved with. Same goes for McGugan, who wasn't terrible but didn't seem anything particularly special on first viewing either.

The brunt of my criticism however has to be reserved for Alex Revell. Mediocre at best throughout last season, he has been abysmal throughout the entirety of this season having scored just one goal when starting every league game so far. Today though, he reached new levels of haplessness by conceding that penalty, contributing nothing to our attacking play, wasting several good opportunities and then getting himself rightly sent off. He is completely useless on the field, an absolute liability and should never play for us again. I've seen some terrible strikers at Cobblers in recent seasons but after today, Revell is right up there with Clive Platt and JJ Hooper, I have to say.

It is certainly the worst Cobblers performance I've ever seen (and I went to Posh away last year!) and nothing summed the entire afternoon up better than when the Benny Hill theme song was inexplicably played over the loudspeaker at half time. If a theme tune ever encapsulated a Cobblers performance, this was it!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 07, 2017, 20:22:25 pm
Aitobs - a few things, the Benny Hill song has been played at most home games this season - a bit of fun with Clarence running to a supporter with a pizza.

Also, although Ravell is not perfect by any stretch, I felt sorry for him today. He wasn't up front with Richards he was playing on the right side and most of the 1st half was playing as another right back, supporting Moloney. Why do you think he gave away the penalty in the first place - he should never have been in that position. This is the fault of the manager not the player.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 07, 2017, 20:32:16 pm
Another thing JFH got wrong today was playing Moloney. After Tuesdays game we were told BM had muscle fatigue. He then plays today and that muscle fatigue has turned into a more serious hamstring injury - so instead of leaving him out today to recover we could be looking at weeks depending on the seriousness of it.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Another Pedj on October 07, 2017, 20:39:31 pm
Possibly but we haven't got a right back to cover. Reagan Poole has done well in defensive midfield, we missed him today, but he is lost at right back.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 20:40:32 pm
Another thing JFH got wrong today was playing Moloney. After Tuesdays game we were told BM had muscle fatigue. He then plays today and that muscle fatigue has turned into a more serious hamstring injury - so instead of leaving him out today to recover we could be looking at weeks depending on the seriousness of it.

That I believe was why Poole was rushed back from international duty to be on the bench, I thought I t was said he would miss today also?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 20:42:31 pm
Possibly but we haven't got a right back to cover. Reagan Poole has done well in defensive midfield, we missed him today, but he is lost at right back.

I agree, if we knew in advance that Poole was going to be available with hindsight he should have come in for moloney. Now we're going to have to play Poole or Powell out of position or give a debut to Cameron McWilliams.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 07, 2017, 20:46:09 pm
That I believe was why Poole was rushed back from international duty to be on the bench, I thought I t was said he would miss today also?

Yes, Poole was due to be missing todays game. I found it strange that he was named on the bench.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 20:47:05 pm
Aitobs - a few things, the Benny Hill song has been played at most home games this season - a bit of fun with Clarence running to a supporter with a pizza.

Also, although Ravell is not perfect by any stretch, I felt sorry for him today. He wasn't up front with Richards he was playing on the right side and most of the 1st half was playing as another right back, supporting Moloney. Why do you think he gave away the penalty in the first place - he should never have been in that position. This is the fault of the manager not the player.

Agree with the last bit....quite why he was playing where he was is a mystery to me!!  The team/squad is unbalanced.....driving up to the ground RN said we had 6 midfielders on the bench with Cornell the 7th sub, another midfielder (Kasim) left out completely as was George Smith.

We must have 31/32 players on the books but can't get a balanced settled team out there....its ridiculous!! Yes we have injuries but who doesn't? Rovers were missing both centre backs today and one of the replacements was making his league debut. Yes we've had a busy spell of games but so has everyone....we've played 15 games this season and Rovers have played 16.....so that excuse doesn't wash either.

I'm surprised by JFH....an ex player who was a natural attacking goalscorer yet he sets us up so defensively, everyone back at corners! Continues to play the ageing duo up front, one other or both, whilst Hoskins and especially Waters can't get a real run, and two exciting youngsters are farmed out on loan to teams many levels below us.

As I said earlier, what grated me today was the way we rolled over. Rovers were effective and showed what having a bit of pace in your side does for you. They were effective and ruthless, well almost ruthless because I don't think 10 goals would have flattered them today. I'd thought we'd got over the meek surrender...but no!

Today was awful, a combination of an awful starting line up, and an awful performance on the pitch almost to a man.

I don't care if I never see Revell in a Cobblers shirt again...Rico should be given a run and if he doesn't perform then he can do one too!! Some of them have to buck their ideas up big time, Pierre was appalling, Foley non-existent, Grimes next to useless, and Maloney (whom i've never rated btw) was just as bad.

Square pegs and round holes,,,,still!! Whats the answer? Let JFH wheel and deal in January and get another 6-8 in? That's what it needs......

I am staggered that after a decent summer of recruitment and the supposed quality we have on our books, we put in a performance like that.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 07, 2017, 20:52:40 pm
I agree, if we knew in advance that Poole was going to be available with hindsight he should have come in for moloney. Now we're going to have to play Poole or Powell out of position or give a debut to Cameron McWilliams.

We are now in a right mess, no Moloney and no Phillips or Barnett (I think he can also play full back). Poole struggled today and didn't look at home there and as for Powell - no chance. Therefore, either a system change or who knows, think its a bit much to ask Cameron McWilliams to play there at only 16 years of age.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 07, 2017, 20:59:39 pm
We are now in a right mess, no Moloney and no Phillips or Barnett (I think he can also play full back). Poole struggled today and didn't look at home there and as for Powell - no chance. Therefore, either a system change or who knows, think its a bit much to ask Cameron McWilliams to play there at only 16 years of age.

If he's confident stick him in I'd say, Poole needs to play defensive midfield


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 21:01:31 pm
We are now in a right mess, no Moloney and no Phillips or Barnett (I think he can also play full back). Poole struggled today and didn't look at home there and as for Powell - no chance. Therefore, either a system change or who knows, think its a bit much to ask Cameron McWilliams to play there at only 16 years of age.

Could end up with a left sider filling in at right back........Hanley or Smith? Or we play with wing backs again and three centre backs (Poole/Pierre/Taylor)  Shame Revell got himself sent off as he was playing a blinder at right back today!!  ;D


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 21:03:28 pm
If he's confident stick him in I'd say, Poole needs to play defensive midfield

I may be wrong but Hasselbaink doesn't seem to be the type who throws people in like that.......otherwise we'd have seen Lobjoit and Iacofano up front by now, not out on loan leagues below!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 21:37:07 pm
Some of those players had shockers out there today .
Pierre was terrible and I’m not convinced by his commitment when things get tough.
Buchanan was awful and totally over ran
Foley was totally ineffective and offered nothing
Bowditch had a good 10 minutes and then didn’t touch the ball
Revell was truly awful and won nothing but gave away the penalty
Rico was bullied out of it and offered nothing
McGugan couldn’t even run - how can a pro footballer be so unfit
Poole was clueless at right back -mistake after mistake
Taylor was unsure throughout
Hanley tried hard and was ok
Grimes was the only outfield player with credit - wanted the ball at all times
Ingram was fantastic - would have been ten without him
JFH - why didn’t he change it earlier ???


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 21:41:01 pm
Grimes is so frustrating - there is clearly a talented player in there but when he has a poor game his head goes down far too easily. Also on his set pieces why does he do that annoying thing of making sure that he keeps his head still and down over the ball and doesn't look up - it means that when he strikes it he's got a completely unnatural body position and can't actually see where he's aiming for.
Usually I agree with you Irchy but I thought Grimes played okay today .
He wanted the ball and was brave with it .
He carried the midfield I thought and was the only outfield player with credit , apart from Hoskins maybe


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3040 on October 07, 2017, 21:50:38 pm
How certain cretins on here can say Buchanan  was poor amaze me how many times did they get past him how many goals came from his side of the pitch some on here habe no clue just jump on the bandwagon and follow other comments like sheep.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 21:54:56 pm
How certain cretins on here can say Buchanan  was poor amaze me how many times did they get past him how many goals came from his side of the pitch some on here habe no clue just jump on the bandwagon and follow other comments like sheep.
He was awful .
Defensively poor and have the ball away constantly


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 07, 2017, 22:03:45 pm
Usually I agree with you Irchy but I thought Grimes played okay today .
He wanted the ball and was brave with it .
He carried the midfield I thought and was the only outfield player with credit , apart from Hoskins maybe

You must agree that he was playing ridiculously deep - obviously on the orders of the manager - and that his set pieces are poor?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 22:25:48 pm
You must agree that he was playing ridiculously deep - obviously on the orders of the manager - and that his set pieces are poor?
He was playing deep but that’s not his fault .
I thought him and foley should have swapped .
Grimes always looks to be positive though and doesn’t shy from the ball .
Set pieces could be better , I agree


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 07, 2017, 22:27:28 pm
How certain cretins on here can say Buchanan  was poor amaze me how many times did they get past him how many goals came from his side of the pitch some on here habe no clue just jump on the bandwagon and follow other comments like sheep.

Got to agree, he threw his body in front of at least two efforts.....he was far from the worst today!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 22:51:33 pm
I  think am sure that was JFH thinking. Well not so sure but its a strong possibility.
But if it was , why didn’t he change it when it was obvious it wasn’t working ?
Waters or Hoskins could have come on


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 23:04:56 pm
Not being funny but will JFH walk after this?... So damaging to confidence a hammering like this.  Will he be able to pick them off the floor.  


It's not as if it is getting better for him; listening to him after the game he sounded a defeated man. I am worried about Ingram's situation as he must be fed up to.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 07, 2017, 23:10:16 pm
I have had the advantage of sleeping on this and yet I feel worse this morning. Yes we've got a shocking injury list, yes JFH made mistakes. Yes the squad is unbalanced with no width and no obvious leader on the pitch. However, when you have all this against you and are on the ropes that is when you earn your corn. You go man for man, you press, you work and you get right up the arse of the opposition and scrap for everything. What you don't do is rock back on your heels, shrug your shoulders, stick your hand down your shorts and play with your bell end. Forget the excuses it's the ineptitude that is both unexplainable, unacceptable and unforgivable. Form, injuries and selection issues you couldn't do much about on the pitch yesterday, effort you can. JFH has probably learned more yesterday than in his previous games put together. But It's only one game and it doesn't make our season however sickening it was, the same as the first win under Jimmy didn't either. But we can't have back to back or indeed any more performances like that, cause there is no excuse for ineptitude.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 07, 2017, 23:27:15 pm
I have had the advantage of sleeping on this and yet I feel worse this morning. Yes we've got a shocking injury list, yes JFH made mistakes. Yes the squad is unbalanced with no width and no obvious leader on the pitch. However, when you have all this against you and are on the ropes that is when you earn your corn. You go man for man, you press, you work and you get right up the arse of the opposition and scrap for everything. What you don't do is rock back on your heels, shrug your shoulders, stick your hand down your shorts and play with your bell end. Forget the excuses it's the ineptitude that is both unexplainable, unacceptable and unforgivable. Form, injuries and selection issues you couldn't do much about on the pitch yesterday, effort you can. JFH has probably learned more yesterday than in his previous games put together. But It's only one game and it doesn't make our season however sickening it was, the same as the first win under Jimmy didn't either. But we can't have back to back or indeed any more performances like that, cause there is no excuse for ineptitude.

Decent post MC - I was so shocked by our overall performance and complete ineptitude of many of the players. Think I will do what you claim to have done - is sleep on it. Actually how did you manage to sleep on it?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 07, 2017, 23:31:00 pm
One of the strange things about this game was the touch line reaction .
Neither JFH or his coaches were demonstrively trying to shore things up .
They all retreated when the players were shell shocked .
He also started to argue with supporters behind him .
A lot of lessons were learnt yesterday and true characters come to the fore .


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 08, 2017, 00:51:56 am
Decent post MC - I was so shocked by our overall performance and complete ineptitude of many of the players. Think I will do what you claim to have done - is sleep on it. Actually how did you manage to sleep on it?
Tossed and turned Evers, tossed and turned. Tossing more than turning if I'm honest.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 08, 2017, 04:41:29 am
One of the strange things about this game was the touch line reaction .
Neither JFH or his coaches were demonstrively trying to shore things up .
They all retreated when the players were shell shocked .
He also started to argue with supporters behind him .
A lot of lessons were learnt yesterday and true characters come to the fore .

Both him and Austin apparantly told fans behind the dugout to shut up and bloody support the team.  Remember Wilder having a crack at fans in that section before.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: WadeyCobbler on October 08, 2017, 05:37:13 am
Having slept on it, albeit badly, I'm of the thinking that maybe this is just a one off. We've been solid, professional and hardworking recently with some good football at times with our biggest worry being how to score goals. I will worry next week if we don't shake this performance off and bounce back against Wimbledon. That match could be the one that shapes our season. We need a reaction. I am still shell shocked about witnessing our second biggest home league defeat EVER but we now have to focus on the Dons and JFH will have to earn his corn and pick the players up and also find a goal scoring solution. At least Revell can't play. I'd recall the two loanees.. Stick Hoskins in from the start, try Waters up top with Rico and have young Joe and Leon on the bench. Moloneys injury could be the real worry as we don't have a natural replacement with Phillips out.
I'm glad I have booked Monday off work. Hoping people will have forgotten about it come Tuesday..... ???


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 08, 2017, 06:21:10 am
Both him and Austin apparantly told fans behind the dugout to shut up and bloody support the team.  Remember Wilder having a crack at fans in that section before.

That’s where I sit and to be fair there are one or two negative bell ends in that section (no different to anywhere else in the ground I would imagine) but it was ill advised for JFH and Austin to start arguing with some of the supporters after the third went in (they didn’t have a leg to stand on when the fourth, fifth and sixth went in). To be faiir the supporters were also arguing with each other which is never pleasant and just put the cherry on top of a horrible day.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: clarkeysntfc on October 08, 2017, 06:28:28 am
Injuries are no excuse for what happened yesterday.

That's the second time this season I've left a home game with 20 minutes left.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Ralap on October 08, 2017, 06:41:58 am
Did Hoskins also have words with some fans in the West Stand mid way between our dug out and the singing section?
It has to be kept in mind that Jimmy arrived when it was too late to bring any further signings in. Took over a completely over balanced squad heavy with midfielders that look only good enough for league 2 and either forwards that are wringing out the last season or two of their career or young lads that shouldn’t be thrown in at the deep end right now while the atmosphere amongst the fans is still toxic with the odour of Page and Edinburgh. Throwing in Lobjoit and Joe at this point could ruin them, our fans have been admirably patient but I think the patience of most broke yesterday.
Patience is needed right now. Just think if Jimmy manages to find a couple of mobile, younger forwards (We all know he has to) and they can be backed up by a midfield of McWilliams, O’Toole, Crookes, Grimes and McGugan? I find that prospect quite exciting.

Having said all that and trying to remain calm after yesterday’s embarrassment Jimmy and Austin did themselves absolutely no favours yesterday.

It was interesting to see the group of maybe 15 Chinese in the directors area clapping like seals with big grins on their faces as our players trooped down the tunnel while I walked past them on the stair feeling more embarrassed to be a Cobblers fan than I have done in quite some time. Different cultures I guess.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Irchy cob on October 08, 2017, 06:50:47 am
Did Hoskins also have words with some fans in the West Stand mid way between our dug out and the singing section?
It has to be kept in mind that Jimmy arrived when it was too late to bring any further signings in. Took over a completely over balanced squad heavy with midfielders that look only good enough for league 2 and either forwards that are wringing out the last season or two of their career or young lads that shouldn’t be thrown in at the deep end right now while the atmosphere amongst the fans is still toxic with the odour of Page and Edinburgh. Throwing in Lobjoit and Joe at this point could ruin them, our fans have been admirably patient but I think the patience of most broke yesterday.
Patience is needed right now. Just think if Jimmy manages to find a couple of mobile, younger forwards (We all know he has to) and they can be backed up by a midfield of McWilliams, O’Toole, Crookes, Grimes and McGugan? I find that prospect quite exciting.

Having said all that and trying to remain calm after yesterday’s embarrassment Jimmy and Austin did themselves absolutely no favours yesterday.

It was interesting to see the group of maybe 15 Chinese in the directors area clapping like seals with big grins on their faces as our players trooped down the tunnel while I walked past them on the stair feeling more embarrassed to be a Cobblers fan than I have done in quite some time. Different cultures I guess.

I want to echo your optimism on the couple of younger, quick strikers/wingers comment and agree that with the return of some of the key injured players it would be crucial but we’ve got to remember that we’re going to have to wait 3 months for any newcomers to be brought in, by then where are we likely to be if we keep churning performances like yesterday out?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: cobbler150 on October 08, 2017, 07:10:55 am
Think the problem being is Grimes, Foley, Taylor, Pierre, Revell, Hanley, Waters, Barnett,Powell arent good enough.If they were we wouldnt be in this mess.

I would have said Bowditch but yesterday he looked only one with a tad of footballing brain. His ball through to Rico for our offside goal was a peach.

2 bad managerial appointments have destroyed a good team. Need to get over it. Be thankful we are league 1 club for however long it lasts.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 08, 2017, 07:23:11 am
Where's cobbler 78??  Still the Wimbledon game is a home banker surely.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: clarkeysntfc on October 08, 2017, 07:25:11 am
Against Milton Keynes we played well, and looked like a very well drilled if somewhat weak up front mid table L1 side.

A solid 4-4-1-1 formation seemed to suit the personnel deployed, and everyone knew their jobs.

All JFH needed to do yesterday was replace the injured Crooks with Hoskins/Bowditch/Waters.

Instead he ripped the tactics to shreds, had Revell on the right wing and players looked completely lost. What on earth went through his mind on Friday when he picked the XI?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 08, 2017, 07:31:21 am
Think the problem being is Grimes, Foley, Taylor, Pierre, Revell, Hanley, Waters, Barnett,Powell arent good enough.If they were we wouldnt be in this mess.

I would have said Bowditch but yesterday he looked only one with a tad of footballing brain. His ball through to Rico for our offside goal was a peach.

2 bad managerial appointments have destroyed a good team. Need to get over it. Be thankful we are league 1 club for however long it lasts.


Don't agree with that, so Taylor isn't good enough but Buchanan is? Grimes isn't good enough but Bowditch doesn't quite make the list, Foley is written off after one game where he clearly wasn't match fit, to name a few. Seems completely knee jerk


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 07:53:36 am
I don't think the back 5 is going to change much but we may have a big problem at right back if Moloney is out injured for a period.  In my view Phillips is a better defender but he is also out long term.  The major problems lie in almost every position in front of the back 5.  On yesterday's performance none of them would be picked for the next match if there were adequate replacements. But sooner or later we need to have a settled side to fight the relegation battle that surely awaits us. 

Looking ahead several weeks if we are to play JJOT & Crooks in midfield who is going to play alongside them? We desperately need a ball winner, a lower division of the Scott Brown (Celtic) type, a leader, a tackler, a motivator. Up front watching Rico & Revell struggle is depressing. Neither is able to get past a defender and whatever was in JFH's mind to select both did him no good yesterday with supporters. We are back to where we were with JED in January saying that JED inherited from Page a very poor and unbalanced squad. History has a habit of repeating itself and so far as NTFC is concerned will continue to do so unless and until someone gets a grip on recruitment at our club. 


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: clarkeysntfc on October 08, 2017, 08:07:07 am
McWilliams is the driving force we need in the middle of the park. He surely needs to start v AFCW.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Buster on October 08, 2017, 08:21:33 am
That's the second time this season I've left a home game with 20 minutes left.

Shameful


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Buster on October 08, 2017, 08:27:47 am
It was interesting to see the group of maybe 15 Chinese in the directors area clapping like seals with big grins on their faces as our players trooped down the tunnel...

To be fair, they'd just watched a 6-goal fest.  It's not as though any of them are Cobblers supporters is it?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: DrillingCobbler on October 08, 2017, 08:31:34 am
Our defence has been fine in 8 of the 11 games so far this season. Yesterday, Charlton and PBoro it wasn't.

That said, the defence wasn't the issue yesterday, certainly not in the first half. I cannot recall where a back line has such little protection. We literally had no midfield.

Unlike the majority, I didn't even flinch when the penalty was saved. I could see exactly what was coming. At half time I said if he doesn't change the formation and bring on an orthodox midfielder (McWilliams was the obvious option) then we'd be battered by at least 4 goals. Indeed; I predicted 30 seconds before the 2nd goal was scored that they would score in any moment and JFH would make a change. No hindsight was needed, it was bloody obvious. But taking off Foley and replacing him with another 'forward type' beggared belief, at that point it was simply a case of 'how many would they score'. I wanted to go home, somehow I resisted until the moment the 4th goal went in.

I've seen some badly managed teams on a single match day, yesterday was up there with a few others that spring to mind. Boro and Stourbridge under Page, Wycombe at home when Broadhurst was in charge (his last game), Bournemouth away (again Broadhurst, that was a real gem when he didn't take Spedding off before he was predictably sent off). Zero logic was used from the moment the team sheet was put out.

Its frustrating. So so frustrating. The very two basic things I want to see from a Cobblers manager is sensible team selections, pro active changes during the course of the matches and a series of 'templates' used when it comes to recruitment. A bit like when you play football manager. You know your main formation, you bring in 2 players for each position. A squad of around 22. It really isn't hard.

Yet we've got an abundance of midfielders and 'bitty players' (Bowditch is what I define as a bitty player), zero pace up top and 4 goal keepers. Surely someone high up at the Football Club must approve the recruitment? If I was the chairman, I just wouldn't let it happen. Of course Jimmy can't be blamed for this element of our shortcomings, but in terms of yesterdays shambles he can certainly take the bulk of the responsibility.

Where do we go from here? I just hope that professional pride comes into play, the lads use yesterday as a wake up call and they behave like wounded animals next Saturday. Quite often a properly battering helps a team refocus and react positively, of course it can also kill confidence if the dressing room doesn't have the right characters. We shall find out next Saturday, it cannot come soon enough. We need to win and firmly put yesterday into the history books, the perfect storm in terms 'of a blip'.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 08, 2017, 08:45:33 am

   I was out for most of Saturday, WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG? HOW DIS WE GET BASHED SO BADLY?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 08:58:18 am
I am sure McWilliams will be back in the team next Saturday but we mustn't raise our expectations of him too high. He is young and inexperienced, a terrific prospect but a work-in-progress.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: andycobbler on October 08, 2017, 09:01:18 am
Shameful

Why ??? I also left early, my choice.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 09:08:24 am
McWilliams is the driving force we need in the middle of the park. He surely needs to start v AFCW.

TBF we miss o toole massively for this


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2235 on October 08, 2017, 09:09:53 am
That team selection was pure incompetence! The way he uses Smith and Hanley is odd, one of them plays then the other gets banished from the squad. Surely they should both feature on match day as competition for that wide left role. Revell covering down the right was a total joke. Rovers had their first choice centre backs out and when I saw that Revell and Richards were playing I thought it was to attack the inexperience in that area.

I think JFH played for the Tinkerman at Chelsea, he has certainly picked up a lot of his traits.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 09:10:54 am
From what I a reading on Companies House, JFH is racing KT to the door.

What did you mean by this?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 08, 2017, 09:13:49 am
What did you mean by this?

Yes cmon spill?..


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2017, 09:20:44 am
I too would like to know what you meant Kev.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: clarkeysntfc on October 08, 2017, 09:59:24 am
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09858599/filing-history

David Bower no longer a director.

Two Chinese chaps appointed.

Can't see anything else on there to raise alarm?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3063 on October 08, 2017, 10:00:32 am
I too would like to know what you meant Kev.

He won't tell, he likes to play games with snippets of information that are probably wrong anyhow.

How come he didn't know McGugan was training with us, if he spends all his time watching it?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Insider on October 08, 2017, 10:30:12 am
You need to look a little further than NTFC.  You should worry that the Chinese are in control and seem to think that losing 6-0 at home is some sort of laughing matter.  Tom Auyeung meanwhile seems to spend his days flogging signed shirts and footballs off a Guanzhou market stall. £6m? Let's ask David Bower how that sliced up. And how he's going to monetise his investment in CDNL. The exit plans are in full swing.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Artlenock Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 10:38:19 am
You need to look a little further than NTFC.  You should worry that the Chinese are in control and seem to think that losing 6-0 at home is some sort of laughing matter.  Tom Auyeung meanwhile seems to spend his days flogging signed shirts and footballs off a Guanzhou market stall. £6m? Let's ask David Bower how that sliced up. And how he's going to monetise his investment in CDNL. The exit plans are in full swing.

Perhaps they were laughing because someone told them we were playing in black with flourescent piping.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 10:43:40 am
Worrying, Insider. Can we assume that you are sharing what you are alluding to with your co-directors at NTFC Supporters Ltd?

As though we don't have enough of a crisis on the pitch without more trouble off it.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: SteveRiches on October 08, 2017, 10:51:45 am
Other than the fact we're all agreed that we are not scoring goals and that it needs addressing mighty soon, recent comments on here have no common agreement that I can work out. Yes, everyone has their own idea who should be in the matchday squad, or their own version of the formation to which we should play - but real solutions are missing. The manner of playing and the quality of squad are both currently to be found wanting - a matter of fact and not of opinion and borne out by statistics. What's needed is a big public statement of intent from the club, backed by manager, chairman, Chinese co-owners etc. on how this mess is to be addressed before it's too late to recover. Trundling along is no plan.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 08, 2017, 11:14:22 am

Fo JFH SAYING ''WE weren't GOOD ENOUGH, MUST BE THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE SEASONM.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 11:16:23 am
Something appears to be going on inside the club about which we supporters have not been told anything. See Insider's comments above. David Bower, the solicitor partner of KT has with effect on 21 September resigned from the board of the investment vehicle for NTFC, NTFC Ventures Ltd, but is still a director of NTFC.  The board remains on the face of it with a 3:2 majority in favour of KT & his original UK partners. We don't know, of course, the terms of the agreement with the Chinese and they could have a veto at board level.

Steve is right - we need information from KT about what is happening and exactly what are the future plans.  That is not asking for much but I doubt that we will be told anything concrete.  


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 08, 2017, 11:22:34 am
Something appears to be going on inside the club about which we supporters have not been told anything. See Insider's comments above. David Bower, the solicitor partner of KT has with effect on 21 September resigned from the board of the investment vehicle for NTFC, NTFC Ventures Ltd, but is still a director of NTFC.  The board remains on the face of it with a 3:2 majority in favour of KT & his original UK partners. We don't know, of course, the terms of the agreement with the Chinese and they could have a veto at board level.

Steve is right - we need information from KT about what is happening and exactly what are the future plans.  That is not asking for much but I doubt that we will be told anything concrete.  

 AGREED.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Wolvo on October 08, 2017, 12:03:03 pm
We were lucky it weren't more than 6 to be honest.

What was JFH thinking putting Revell on the wing? Him and Hanley were absolutely atrocious (like the rest of the squad....). The only positive, is this horrendous run of something like 10 games in 35 days is finally over.... players will hopefully start looking fit again.

Actually, the other positive is we 100% cannot see Rico and Revs partnership for the next three games.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 08, 2017, 12:59:49 pm
I think we will do remarkably well to recover from that. Based on our previous record we may have outstayed our welcome in league one. I hope 78 and his statistical genius is correct. Anyone would bite your hand off for mid table right now.
It could come down to injuries and if the likes of JJOT can kick start a recovery.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: cobbler_rob on October 08, 2017, 14:49:42 pm
I honestly think the back 4 and centre midfield areas are strong but we all know the squad is imbalanced and lacks any pace or creativity in the final third. We need to try and not over react from 1 awful result, on the whole the past 8 games have been a big improvement than the alternative under Edinburgh. Lets see how the next 5-10 games go but as long as don't fall adrift in the relegation zone before January i'm confident we'll bring in the players we need to push on


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 15:10:20 pm
I honestly think the back 4 and centre midfield areas are strong but we all know the squad is imbalanced and lacks any pace or creativity in the final third. We need to try and not over react from 1 awful result, on the whole the past 8 games have been a big improvement than the alternative under Edinburgh. Lets see how the next 5-10 games go but as long as don't fall adrift in the relegation zone before January i'm confident we'll bring in the players we need to push on

Agree with this. It doesn't excuse yesterday, which was unforgiveable if only for the lack of intensity. However as well as inheriting an unbalanced squad JFH has a huge injury list including key players in terms of creativity and goals. Crooks, JJOT, Long, Phillips and now Moloney are among our best players going forward.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: sixfields starling on October 08, 2017, 15:45:15 pm
I'm really hoping for a reaction next Saturday, because that yesterday was probably the worst I've ever seen us play in over 45 years. To see the whole teams head drop was alarming . I don't mind tacking a hammering like yesterday, if we learn from it and address the deficiencies. Both 2 league games away previously we were in the games up until the end , without scoring,yet yesterday was plain embarrassing. I personally would try some of the younger, pacey forwards up front and try to play to feet, as at the moment no one ,except possibly Grimes look comfortable on the ball and pass the ball ,rather than holding it. Confidence is at a low,we need at the moment to have a game plan and stick to it, with minimal team rotation,injuries permitting of course and grind out results before we start to fall behind, starting on Saturday.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: cobbler150 on October 08, 2017, 16:16:55 pm
Don't agree with that, so Taylor isn't good enough but Buchanan is? Grimes isn't good enough but Bowditch doesn't quite make the list, Foley is written off after one game where he clearly wasn't match fit, to name a few. Seems completely knee jerk

Grimes? Goals and assists this season next to his minutes played? Pierre and Taylors clean sheet record? Foley signed from relegated team?  Midfielders that dont score or assist and defenders dont keep clean sheets. 👍👍

Sitting in relegation zone after getting tanked six nil by a team that cant win away. Clear these players brought in are not good enough all im saying.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: JollyCobbler on October 08, 2017, 18:50:48 pm
Something appears to be going on inside the club about which we supporters have not been told anything. See Insider's comments above. David Bower, the solicitor partner of KT has with effect on 21 September resigned from the board of the investment vehicle for NTFC, NTFC Ventures Ltd, but is still a director of NTFC.  The board remains on the face of it with a 3:2 majority in favour of KT & his original UK partners. We don't know, of course, the terms of the agreement with the Chinese and they could have a veto at board level.

Steve is right - we need information from KT about what is happening and exactly what are the future plans.  That is not asking for much but I doubt that we will be told anything concrete.  

The Chinese have control of the Sixfields boardroom (or at least one of them does). They hold the reins of NTFC's controlling company, ergo they have the power. As I've stated previously, and unless the laws on international holdings have changed, there is likely one person from 5USports listed as PSC.
Forget this bollocks about their "only being here because of the educational possibilities", and watch KT scratching at his collar whenever the subject of (the) club's ownership rears its head.
And I agree, it's about time we had some honest answers about medium-term/long-term strategy. (Waits with baited breath for the usual "ownership issues are not the punters business" brigade.) 


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: JollyCobbler on October 08, 2017, 18:52:53 pm
Agree with this. It doesn't excuse yesterday, which was unforgiveable if only for the lack of intensity. However as well as inheriting an unbalanced squad JFH has a huge injury list including key players in terms of creativity and goals. Crooks, JJOT, Long, Phillips and now Moloney are among our best players going forward.

I agree with this, too.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest1269 on October 08, 2017, 19:51:45 pm
The Chinese have control of the Sixfields boardroom (or at least one of them does). They hold the reins of NTFC's controlling company, ergo they have the power. As I've stated previously, and unless the laws on international holdings have changed, there is likely one person from 5USports listed as PSC.
Forget this bollocks about their "only being here because of the educational possibilities", and watch KT scratching at his collar whenever the subject of (the) club's ownership rears its head.
And I agree, it's about time we had some honest answers about medium-term/long-term strategy. (Waits with baited breath for the usual "ownership issues are not the punters business" brigade.) 

Whilst no fan of the tedious Random and Beds knocking KT rhetoric concentrating solely on the East Stand debacle, yesterday was more than a comprehensive defeat - something is seriously wrong.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on October 08, 2017, 20:05:50 pm
Whilst no fan of the tedious Random and Beds knocking KT rhetoric concentrating solely on the East Stand debacle, yesterday was more than a comprehensive defeat - something is seriously wrong.

Get those buckets back out


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 08, 2017, 20:07:59 pm
You can't sack Jimmy. It's the fcuking bottom feeders on the pitch that need the sack. Whilst halfwits keep pointing the finger at the manager, those tossers keep taking the money for doing sweet FA..

So many knee jerks after that terrible display that any constructive comments were lost in the welter of self pity and "toys tossed out of the pram". One poster has actually moaned the same thing over 12 times and 3 others on between 8/10 posts. I was sorry to see that a generally astute poster on here (GPC) made a number of repetitive posts.
To me the players have to bear the lions share of responsibility for this sad performance; so I think TFAH is correct in his brief analysis of yesterdays efforts.
Must admit I was surprised to see Revell play "right wing back"; he was all at sea with his positioning, hesitation in defence and then that tackle in the area! I thought the defence did well 1st half altho' that might have been due more to Ingrams in limiting the deficit to 0-1. Thought that Hanley did ok(compared with others), but lacked any decent involvement in the game, didnt give up tho'. Grimes to me looked our most accomplished player (faint praise). Taylor ok first half went awol  2nd.  Pierre  very disappointing, dawdled over the ball and made to look ludicrously slow. After that the rest where somewhat anonymous except of course Ingram. Have a nagging feeling he might have done better with a couple of the goals , even so he kept the damage down.
Would like to see JFH stick to his back 4 (inj. permitting) get McWilliams and JJOT back asap, together with Long , Phillips and perhaps Crooks we might just get somewhere near mid table. Then with decent fwds on board we can have a go at the playoffs.
Never say die.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ItsaSetPieceDivision on October 08, 2017, 20:35:35 pm
So many knee jerks after that terrible display that any constructive comments were lost in the welter of self pity and "toys tossed out of the pram". One poster has actually moaned the same thing over 12 times and 3 others on between 8/10 posts. I was sorry to see that a generally astute poster on here (GPC) made a number of repetitive posts.
To me the players have to bear the lions share of responsibility for this sad performance; so I think TFAH is correct in his brief analysis of yesterdays efforts.
Must admit I was surprised to see Revell play "right wing back"; he was all at sea with his positioning, hesitation in defence and then that tackle in the area! I thought the defence did well 1st half altho' that might have been due more to Ingrams in limiting the deficit to 0-1. Thought that Hanley did ok(compared with others), but lacked any decent involvement in the game, didnt give up tho'. Grimes to me looked our most accomplished player (faint praise). Taylor ok first half went awol  2nd.  Pierre  very disappointing, dawdled over the ball and made to look ludicrously slow. After that the rest where somewhat anonymous except of course Ingram. Have a nagging feeling he might have done better with a couple of the goals , even so he kept the damage down.
Would like to see JFH stick to his back 4 (inj. permitting) get McWilliams and JJOT back asap, together with Long , Phillips and perhaps Crooks we might just get somewhere near mid table. Then with decent fwds on board we can have a go at the playoffs.
Never say die.

I admire your optimism. Personally I think we are shoe in to get relegated.
Although I agree that keeper and first choice back 4 are decent, it's the lack of fire power, pace and width at the other end that's going to cost us.
We are in a right old mess and I can't really see a way out of it.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2487 on October 08, 2017, 21:04:45 pm
How are we so s*** at corners too? We've got a fair few giants but never even look close to scoring from a corner.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest49 on October 08, 2017, 21:07:18 pm

it's the lack of fire power, pace and width at the other end that's going to cost us.


Definitely agree with that.
Watching Rovers break with purpose and pace was a depressing reminder of how one dimensional we are. They may not have been the greatest finishers, which is frightening considering they still scored 6! That Rory Gaffney was seriously rapid.

I still reckon Richards would put plenty away if we carved some opportunities but Revell is never going to be prolific. You only have to watch him taking pot shots in the warm up to see that he isn't the best in front of goal.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: ajp on October 08, 2017, 21:46:52 pm
I admire your optimism. Personally I think we are shoe in to get relegated.
Although I agree that keeper and first choice back 4 are decent, it's the lack of fire power, pace and width at the other end that's going to cost us.
We are in a right old mess and I can't really see a way out of it.

Disagree on the back four, Maloney is NOT a great defender, he IS a good attacking full back. Pierre for me is a real weak link, he had so much time to take the ball down and play a sensible pass before their first goal yesterday but just panicked, 20 secs later the balls is in the net, he also got done for their 3rd, or was it 4th when the guy coasted in for a header. We are however badly missing a central midfielder who can see danger early and is willing to put any sort of tackle in. The number of times runners are let go is a joke! Poole may be the answer...


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2677 on October 08, 2017, 22:08:25 pm
So many knee jerks after that terrible display that any constructive comments were lost in the welter of self pity and "toys tossed out of the pram". One poster has actually moaned the same thing over 12 times and 3 others on between 8/10 posts. I was sorry to see that a generally astute poster on here (GPC) made a number of repetitive posts.
To me the players have to bear the lions share of responsibility for this sad performance; so I think TFAH is correct in his brief analysis of yesterdays efforts.
Must admit I was surprised to see Revell play "right wing back"; he was all at sea with his positioning, hesitation in defence and then that tackle in the area! I thought the defence did well 1st half altho' that might have been due more to Ingrams in limiting the deficit to 0-1. Thought that Hanley did ok(compared with others), but lacked any decent involvement in the game, didnt give up tho'. Grimes to me looked our most accomplished player (faint praise). Taylor ok first half went awol  2nd.  Pierre  very disappointing, dawdled over the ball and made to look ludicrously slow. After that the rest where somewhat anonymous except of course Ingram. Have a nagging feeling he might have done better with a couple of the goals , even so he kept the damage down.
Would like to see JFH stick to his back 4 (inj. permitting) get McWilliams and JJOT back asap, together with Long , Phillips and perhaps Crooks we might just get somewhere near mid table. Then with decent fwds on board we can have a go at the playoffs.
Never say die.
When i watched the highlights back in real time on channel five last night that was also my impression- that Ingram may have done better with goals three and five (from memory), and he also looked close to six but was going the wrong way. Haven't seen it since (where's Frank when you need someone to post the highlights?). Not having a go at Ingram btw, that would be papering over the cracks, rather just an observation.
In addition, sat in the north I said when the fourth went in that it was almost like watching slow motion, I hadn't realised it had come off the post, but that sums up our defending- it took that amount of time before hitting the back of the net and still no one got close to cutting it out.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on October 08, 2017, 22:24:29 pm
Definitely agree with that.
Watching Rovers break with purpose and pace was a depressing reminder of how one dimensional we are. They may not have been the greatest finishers, which is frightening considering they still scored 6! That Rory Gaffney was seriously rapid.

I still reckon Richards would put plenty away if we carved some opportunities but Revell is never going to be prolific. You only have to watch him taking pot shots in the warm up to see that he isn't the best in front of goal.

He has had lots of decent opportunities, including yesterday and hasn't. Rico is passed it


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 08, 2017, 22:34:21 pm
I admire your optimism. Personally I think we are shoe in to get relegated.
Although I agree that keeper and first choice back 4 are decent, it's the lack of fire power, pace and width at the other end that's going to cost us.
We are in a right old mess and I can't really see a way out of it.

I just couldn't be bothered to follow the other doom-mongers, its only Oct we have Nov and Dec to recover some ground. We only need 2/3 wins and some on here will be demanding championship footy! We have a fine keeper and a reasonable defence.  The midfield will sort itself out after the absentees come back. I see no point in giving up yet even if we have a disappointing result next Saturday.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 08, 2017, 22:45:39 pm
Definitely agree with that.
Watching Rovers break with purpose and pace was a depressing reminder of how one dimensional we are. They may not have been the greatest finishers, which is frightening considering they still scored 6! That Rory Gaffney was seriously rapid.

I still reckon Richards would put plenty away if we carved some opportunities but Revell is never going to be prolific. You only have to watch him taking pot shots in the warm up to see that he isn't the best in front of goal.

Might possibly be interesting to have a look at their (BR) next 2 results. Hope to have a laugh!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 08, 2017, 22:57:32 pm
I'm really hoping for a reaction next Saturday............................

I also happen to think the crowd have to get a bit more involved on the positive side. Most of us happen to sit on backsides, whinging and moaning . What happened to Dan the chief crowd motivator? He needs to up his game for a start!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: sxcobbler on October 08, 2017, 23:26:35 pm
It is time to forget the arguing and moaning and get behind the team for the Wimbledon match.



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2487 on October 08, 2017, 23:29:04 pm
Evers have you been drinking?

You've just said our defence is fine - we just lost 6-0.

You've just said the crowd need to do more to get behind the team. Absolutely ridiculous.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 08, 2017, 23:35:28 pm
Evers have you been drinking?

You've just said our defence is fine - we just lost 6-0.

You've just said the crowd need to do more to get behind the team. Absolutely ridiculous.

Just merely going by the displays v Rotherham , MK and Boro' etc etc thats all 8)

One thing I have no hesitation in saying  - the supporters need to get behind the team like in L2 relegation matches a la Oxford and Daggers. This also includes you, no point sitting there with a wishful grin. Team up with Dan and set the West Stand alight.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 09, 2017, 01:48:30 am
Now don’t all shout at me but I always read with interest the expectation of some that we should be a Championship club? On the flip side given our almost unbroken occupation of the bottom 2 divisions you could argue that we are actually over achieving by never dropping out of the league? As you know this is a fate that has befallen many a league club with some never to return? Just saying, and after all that lot in the Premiership seem to do nothing but moan anyway so what’s the difference? Perhaps enjoying seasons like under CW or 86/87 is the best we should hope for? I’m getting a really uneasy feeling I’ve just said the wrong thing?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: WadeyCobbler on October 09, 2017, 06:49:38 am
I thought the atmosphere was really good early on on Saturday. I sit Upper West midway between the half near South Stand and there was more noise and mor people joining in than normal. Sadly, what happened on the pitch dissolved any hope of that continuing. We do need to really get behind them against Wimbledon. We have to help them get the win, our positive support can only help.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2017, 06:59:40 am
I also happen to think the crowd have to get a bit more involved on the positive side. Most of us happen to sit on backsides, whinging and moaning . What happened to Dan the chief crowd motivator? He needs to up his game for a start!

Myself and the usual North Standers started off fine but lost inspiration after about 10 minutes as a result of the abysmal performance which was taking place in front of us.
For the record we thought the West Stand was very good for the first half, given what was being served up by the team.
I do enjoy reading comments about fans need to get behind the team more when there's a very select group who actually try and start some songs  ;D This isn't aimed at you by the way everbrite. Just what I've seen all weekend.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: The Rauldinho on October 09, 2017, 08:07:07 am
I still cannot get over what an abysmal performance this was, and how easily we were destroyed by an average team that has had trouble on the road.

I am hoping we see almost a completely different team on Saturday against AFC, unfortunately our numbers will mean that many of the same faces will still be in the starting line-up.

I feel really sorry for Ingram, he made team of the week in a 6-0 drubbing. Pierre and Ash had there worst games for us, poor old Moloney was shattered before he started and is now injured. Buchs put in some amazing blocks but was overran too often.

Grimes distribution was awful, fair play he still wanted the ball but at our level we need him to get stuck in more. Foley looked half fit and the decision to play Revs at right wing has cost us dear.

How did we go from a decent performance at MK, to changing things so drastically and getting a performance like this.

Hopefully the kick up the arse the players deserve, we'll smash AFC and all will be well in the world.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 09, 2017, 08:37:53 am
 Even PAGE AND JED DID NOT CONCEDE SIX!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: cobbler150 on October 09, 2017, 09:20:12 am
I still cannot get over what an abysmal performance this was, and how easily we were destroyed by an average team that has had trouble on the road.

I am hoping we see almost a completely different team on Saturday against AFC, unfortunately our numbers will mean that many of the same faces will still be in the starting line-up.

I feel really sorry for Ingram, he made team of the week in a 6-0 drubbing. Pierre and Ash had there worst games for us, poor old Moloney was shattered before he started and is now injured. Buchs put in some amazing blocks but was overran too often.

Grimes distribution was awful, fair play he still wanted the ball but at our level we need him to get stuck in more. Foley looked half fit and the decision to play Revs at right wing has cost us dear.

How did we go from a decent performance at MK, to changing things so drastically and getting a performance like this.

Hopefully the kick up the arse the players deserve, we'll smash AFC and all will be well in the world.
+1


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Wolvo on October 09, 2017, 09:29:17 am
Watching the likes of Hanley and now Revell play on the wing shows that we really are so desperately poor in that department. To me, it also seems like JFH is seemingly treating games like preseason friendlies testing out new systems and players. In my opinion, we have to play Powell and Hoskins on the wing next game. Powell has looked a fraction of what I expected, but he is very experienced in that position.

Next game:

Ingram
Moloney Taylor Pierre Buchanan
Poole Grimes
Hoskins Mcgugan Powell
Richards

No idea if Moloney is even fit to play... he looks like he needs a long rest. If he has to be rested, I could see a return to the wingback formation.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Martin on October 09, 2017, 09:41:23 am
You cannot be serious about starting with Richards up front after his recent displays. He is finished at this level. McWilliams should accompany Poole in the holding role and I would play Hoskins and Grimes along with McGugan in the midfield 3. I would try Waters up front and would want to stop the team lumping the ball skyward.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 09, 2017, 09:55:33 am
I could see a return to the wingback formation.
I think the main problem last time wast that we ended up with almost a flat back 5 and 2 main strikers with one in support leaving pretty much 2 in midfield, which obviously is never going to work.
If we played it this time I would do so with 1 up front and 4 in midfield just to give us a bit of solidity. Let's face it this teams confidence is shot and while it may sound defensive against Wimbledon at the moment it seems the more attacking players (Revell, Richards & Bowditch in the last match) the more toothless we look.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler on October 09, 2017, 10:01:01 am
You cannot be serious about starting with Richards up front after his recent displays. He is finished at this level. McWilliams should accompany Poole in the holding role and I would play Hoskins and Grimes along with McGugan in the midfield 3. I would try Waters up front and would want to stop the team lumping the ball skyward.
Can't see any other option than having rico upfront. I do agree his recent displays have been poor but like it or not he is all we have at the moment. With the distribution of our centre backs we need someone upfront who can at least challenge for the ball. Walters would certainly not be capable of that.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Cobbler on October 09, 2017, 10:14:34 am
In the above comment I obviously meant waters not Walters


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2995 on October 09, 2017, 10:23:11 am
Anyone picking McGugon in their starting eleven clearly wasn’t watching him against Bristol Rovers .
He is a good player but is nowhere near being remotely fit .
It’s very doubtful Moloney will also play .
So dream on with those selections and come back to reality .
Unfortunately Poole will have to continue at right back even though he was shocking on Saturday. He won’t play the young lad , McWilliams brother there because he didn’t bring him on against Peterborough .
I would then have McWilliams and Foley holding ( foley needs to step up ).
Grimes and Hoskins further forward .
Rico and Waters up front .
He doesn’t rate Waters though and so Lord only knows who he will pick .
Pierre is also very lucky to still be in the side . I’m not convinced he isn’t just a lump .


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: DrillingCobbler on October 09, 2017, 10:34:30 am
Evers have you been drinking?

You've just said our defence is fine - we just lost 6-0.

You've just said the crowd need to do more to get behind the team. Absolutely ridiculous.

To be fair, stats show that in 8 of the 11 games (11 of the 14 if you include cup games) there isn't much wrong with our defence. We've imploded on 3 occasions, the worst by far being on Saturday.

I cannot recall ever seeing a defence have such little protection in front of it than ours did on Saturday. We may as well have had 7 players on the pitch because the midfield unit went awol as soon as the match started. No defence is going to hold off 6 v 4 situation which was effectively the case against Rovers.

Like I said on a previous post, I predicted at ht we'd lose by at least 4 goals if JFH didn't sort out the midfield. He waited until goal number 2 went in and then took off the only recognised midfielder (Grimes I would argue is more of a winger/bitty player based on his career up to when he joined us) and replaced him with an attacking player. It made zero sense, I couldn't get my head around what he was thinking. And still can't!



Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Wolvo on October 09, 2017, 10:59:56 am
He waited until goal number 2 went in and then took off the only recognised midfielder (Grimes I would argue is more of a winger/bitty player based on his career up to when he joined us) and replaced him with an attacking player. It made zero sense, I couldn't get my head around what he was thinking. And still can't!

He probably thought we'd already lost - may as well bring Mcgugan and Hoskins on for much needed game time. Foley also looked short of match fitness. Really hoping with the week off, we look a totally different and fresher side against Wimbledon. Probably very wishful thinking.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest1269 on October 09, 2017, 11:09:35 am
Obviously I'm a football tactic dullard - but so many comments on playing this player here or there and words of wisdom on preferred formation - frankly most of it IMHO is bollox. What I saw was a frightening lack of passion, complete lack of the basics of closing the man down & having the balls to win 50-50 situation and general unawareness of where on the pitch a team mate was - until JFH sorts this out it doesn't matter who plays or where as we will continue to be whipping boys for teams skill wise are probably no better than us.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2235 on October 09, 2017, 13:08:40 pm
Obviously I'm a football tactic dullard - but so many comments on playing this player here or there and words of wisdom on preferred formation - frankly most of it IMHO is bollox. What I saw was a frightening lack of passion, complete lack of the basics of closing the man down & having the balls to win 50-50 situation and general unawareness of where on the pitch a team mate was - until JFH sorts this out it doesn't matter who plays or where as we will continue to be whipping boys for teams skill wise are probably no better than us.
Its not bollox, you wouldn't expect to see Ash Taylor on the wing or Buchs as a lone striker? Wilder was really good at playing people in their correct position and you see the results. Keep tinkering and it starts to put questions about the managers nous in the players minds


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: bri77 on October 09, 2017, 13:15:40 pm
The crowd have to get more involved? Oh dear lord, if only we'd been singing more in the second half we might not have folded.

The first half the atmosphere was not too shabby despite the pathetic attempts by the players on the pitch, imagine what the score would have been if there had been no singing.

That result was due to a combination of factors and not one is due to the fans,
Rico and Revs in the same starting 11, possibly too much chopping and changing from JFH with the midfield, therefore us not actually having a midfield, Rovers having pace which we know we can't defend against. The defence losing all ability to clear the ball, BM starting the game - stupid decision he was clearly still injured from Tuesday.

So many in our team clearly aren't as good as they / we thought they were. We just have to stay in touch until January and hope JFH can ship in and out what we need.





Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Wolvo on October 09, 2017, 13:19:17 pm
Its not bollox, you wouldn't expect to see Ash Taylor on the wing or Buchs as a lone striker? Wilder was really good at playing people in their correct position and you see the results. Keep tinkering and it starts to put questions about the managers nous in the players minds

Wilder had the luxury of a transfer window when he arrived. JFH really does have his hands tied with one fit winger... and he is useless. I can honestly see us going full circle, and seeing the return to a wing back system next weekend.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest170 on October 09, 2017, 13:45:43 pm
The crowd in the West Stand was one of a very limited number of highlights on Saturday.

Some classics such as "how sh1t must you be its only 5 nil" and "can you score a goal for us" were a couple of my favorites


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: bri77 on October 09, 2017, 13:50:03 pm
We want one was quite a good one in response to their we want 5 - 6 - 7 etc


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 09, 2017, 14:26:25 pm
You cannot be serious about starting with Richards up front after his recent displays. He is finished at this level. McWilliams should accompany Poole in the holding role and I would play Hoskins and Grimes along with McGugan in the midfield 3. I would try Waters up front and would want to stop the team lumping the ball skyward.

We in my opinion we need Richards up front,

             Ingram
Smith Taylor Pierre Buchanan
Grimes Bowditch Poolel McWilliams
         Hoskins Richards

LM, Foley, JJOT? on bench as none of them are fit enough for 45mins let alone 90.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 09, 2017, 14:40:23 pm
We in my opinion we need Richards up front,

Ingram
Smith Taylor Pierre Buchanan
Grimes Bowditch McWilliams
Hoskins Richards Waters

LM, Foley, JJOT? on bench as none of them are fit enough for 45mins let alone 90.

Wow that's four attacking players (Hoskins Richards Walters & Bowditch) with Grimes not offering much in the way of cover, I would feel sorry for poor McWilliams just coming back from injury and pretty much having to do all the tacking by himself as I don't see the others 5 offering much defensively.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 09, 2017, 14:41:49 pm
Myself and the usual North Standers started off fine but lost inspiration after about 10 minutes as a result of the abysmal performance which was taking place in front of us.
For the record we thought the West Stand was very good for the first half, given what was being served up by the team.
I do enjoy reading comments about fans need to get behind the team more when there's a very select group who actually try and start some songs  ;D This isn't aimed at you by the way everbrite. Just what I've seen all weekend.

I know its difficult after displays like last Saturday, but am going on past performances by you and yr merry band. Of course they don't win matches but the ability to join in creates an atmosphere and at least the supporters have tried to help. I can remember the support at Mansfield, Luton , Stevenage and more recently the Rotherham game.  I know only too well (again) it doesn't win games but if the players sense the emotional keen support it might just help. We have to try?


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Benji on October 09, 2017, 14:46:34 pm
We in my opinion we need Richards up front,

Ingram
Smith Taylor Pierre Buchanan
Grimes Bowditch McWilliams
Hoskins Richards Waters

LM, Foley, JJOT? on bench as none of them are fit enough for 45mins let alone 90.
Just noticed no Poole either, I didn't think he was on international duty but I might be wrong, If available I would definitely have him in midfield as he's been good there and I'm not convinced he's much of a right back, even if that does mean playing smith as you suggested there or bringing in a youth teamer.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 09, 2017, 14:49:10 pm
......................
I would then have Foley holding ( foley needs to step up ) 

 Foley is not fit, ok for bench but thats about it.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: everbrite on October 09, 2017, 14:54:46 pm
Wow that's four attacking players (Hoskins Richards Walters & Bowditch) with Grimes not offering much in the way of cover, I would feel sorry for poor McWilliams just coming back from injury and pretty much having to do all the tacking by himself as I don't see the others 5 offering much defensively.


Quite right! Forgot Poole so side amended. Have a go at that Mr.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Dr Feelgood on October 09, 2017, 15:23:47 pm
I blame Dr. Feelgood.
I take full responsibility


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: sixfields starling on October 09, 2017, 16:16:23 pm
Obviously I'm a football tactic dullard - but so many comments on playing this player here or there and words of wisdom on preferred formation - frankly most of it IMHO is bollox. What I saw was a frightening lack of passion, complete lack of the basics of closing the man down & having the balls to win 50-50 situation and general unawareness of where on the pitch a team mate was - until JFH sorts this out it doesn't matter who plays or where as we will continue to be whipping boys for teams skill wise are probably no better than us.
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Agree with most of this, we are far too happy to lump the ball forward. I'm all for clearing your lines, but we don't seem confident at all in passing the ball / finding our men


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: defender on October 09, 2017, 16:24:24 pm
I take full responsibility
              That is what JFH should have said


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest2677 on October 09, 2017, 19:19:34 pm
Now don’t all shout at me but I always read with interest the expectation of some that we should be a Championship club? On the flip side given our almost unbroken occupation of the bottom 2 divisions you could argue that we are actually over achieving by never dropping out of the league? As you know this is a fate that has befallen many a league club with some never to return? Just saying, and after all that lot in the Premiership seem to do nothing but moan anyway so what’s the difference? Perhaps enjoying seasons like under CW or 86/87 is the best we should hope for? I’m getting a really uneasy feeling I’ve just said the wrong thing?
If we get there, I think we should view 100 years continuous league membership as an achievement and maybe even celebrate it a little, because the odds of that happening have been against us several times over the years  :)


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: TownOwl on October 09, 2017, 19:52:31 pm
I’m clearly in a minority of one, but I thought Foley had a decent game, especially considering he’s clearly not match fit. I thought he had done well up to his inevitable substitution and it only bolstered my thinking  when we saw what happened when he wasn’t there anymore. I thought he broke up play well and used the ball nicely the majority of the time.

No, I’m not his agent.

I think a lot of players in that second half will do well to get picked again anytime soon, but whatever team JFH goes for, it simply must include Hoskins in the starting XI now.


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: guest3114 on October 10, 2017, 02:24:34 am
If we get there, I think we should view 100 years continuous league membership as an achievement and maybe even celebrate it a little, because the odds of that happening have been against us several times over the years  :)
Quite right Mr J, in fact talking of celebration I can be quite clearly seen on the club video skipping joyfully across the grass at Gay Meadow!


Title: Re: Bristol Rovers (H) 7th October
Post by: Spinney cobbler on October 10, 2017, 12:45:29 pm
I’m clearly in a minority of one, but I thought Foley had a decent game, especially considering he’s clearly not match fit. I thought he had done well up to his inevitable substitution and it only bolstered my thinking  when we saw what happened when he wasn’t there anymore. I thought he broke up play well and used the ball nicely the majority of the time.

No, I’m not his agent.

I think a lot of players in that second half will do well to get picked again anytime soon, but whatever team JFH goes for, it simply must include Hoskins in the starting XI now.
I also thought he was playing well and thought it was a strange decision to take him off
especially as he needs to get up to match fitness.


Title: Ref 0-6
Post by: defender on October 11, 2017, 13:56:56 pm
 Memo to JTH NORTHAMPTON TOWN DO NOT LOSE 0-6. I don't think we ever have before and we must NEVER AGAIN.


Title: Re: Ref 0-6
Post by: defender on October 11, 2017, 13:58:46 pm

One IAN ATKINS WOULD HAVE GIVEN BIRTH seeing that.,


Title: Re: Ref 0-6
Post by: Shoemaker on October 11, 2017, 14:08:28 pm
Who is JTH ?


Title: Re: Ref 0-6
Post by: defender on October 11, 2017, 14:18:23 pm
Who is JTH ?
HA.HA SENIOR MOMENT METHINKS.


Title: Re: Ref 0-6
Post by: guest3063 on October 11, 2017, 15:45:03 pm
Here I am trying my hardest to forget about last Saturday, when this thread pops its ugly head up.

 ???