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Title: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest3063 on November 29, 2017, 17:47:59 pm
No FA Cup or League action for The Cobblers this weekend, so we head south to Portsmouth for the knockout stages of the Checkatrade Trophy. This tie was originally scheduled for next Tuesday (5/12) but has been brought forward as both teams are out of the FA Cup.

JFH has suggested a strong team will feature for this one. Sam Hoskins is fit again. JJOT, Powell and Pierre could be close to fitness, leaving only Aaron Phillips (back in training) and Alex Revell (10 days away) sidelined.   

Please note the kick off time is 12.30pm to allow the game to be streamed live.

 

     


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: clarkeysntfc on November 30, 2017, 08:16:47 am
Absolutely pointless playing a strong XI in this. Give the likes of Smith & Bowditch starts and get our main players rested and fit for the Walsall game.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Irchy cob on November 30, 2017, 08:30:53 am
It’s oldham away before the Walsall game but I take your point, if for example jjot played and suffered a recurrence of his injury it would be brainless.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on November 30, 2017, 09:33:22 am
But would you rather JJOT played and we won? Or he didn't and we lost. And he didn't get injured.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: clarkeysntfc on November 30, 2017, 09:34:21 am
But would you rather JJOT played and we won? Or he didn't and we lost. And he didn't get injured.

I am quite content for us to lose the Checkatrade game. Quite honestly don't care either way provided nobody gets injured.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: threeinabed on November 30, 2017, 09:49:38 am
i'd like to win this cup - only chance of a day out at wembley this season


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on November 30, 2017, 10:16:24 am
We've got past that rubbish group stage. I want us to win. Sorry.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on November 30, 2017, 10:31:38 am
We've got past that rubbish group stage. I want us to win. Sorry.

Any kind of win would be appreciated; good for team morale after the booing against Bury.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2487 on November 30, 2017, 11:50:48 am
I'd like us to win. I like us to win every game.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on November 30, 2017, 12:14:45 pm
I'd like us to win. I like us to win every game.

+


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on November 30, 2017, 12:26:22 pm
It’s oldham away before the Walsall game but I take your point, if for example jjot played and suffered a recurrence of his injury it would be brainless.

Bit of a dilemma for JFH as JJOT requires games to regain former fitness levels. He does not appear to be quite so effective since returning from his groin op'; so he needs games if only 60 mins here and there.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Quintonside on November 30, 2017, 13:53:18 pm
Id play a strong team, but not anyone if its risk to do so i.e. JJOT   if he is really fully fit id play him for part of the game.

If you are going to bring in players who haven't been starting they need to be ones that have a chance of being the future or nailing down their position.  Bowditch surely isn't one of them.

Smith is. Foley might have an outside chance of being.  As is Leon.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: The Rauldinho on November 30, 2017, 14:52:25 pm
              Cornell

Moloney Poole Barnett Smith

        Foley McWilliams

Bowditch McGugan Waters

               Lobjoit


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest49 on November 30, 2017, 16:32:15 pm
After the FA Cup team put out, I’d expect to see the tea lady up front for this one and Clarence in goal.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Coolcat on November 30, 2017, 18:37:08 pm
Isn't JFH claiming to put out a 'strong team' a kinda oxymoron?  :o


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: fwalden on November 30, 2017, 19:14:47 pm
              Cornell

Moloney Poole Barnett Smith

        Foley McWilliams

Bowditch McGugan Waters

               Lobjoit

How dare you put Bowditch in the team!  ???


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on November 30, 2017, 19:26:05 pm
I am quite content for us to lose the Checkatrade game. Quite honestly don't care either way provided nobody gets injured.
There's just as much chance of someone getting injured against Oldham as against Portsmouth. As for getting rested, if a week between games is not enough there's something seriously wrong.
If by chance we get there, you'll be passing on a trip to Wembley I expect?


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on November 30, 2017, 22:33:08 pm
There's just as much chance of someone getting injured against Oldham as against Portsmouth. As for getting rested, if a week between games is not enough there's something seriously wrong.
If by chance we get there, you'll be passing on a trip to Wembley I expect?

Precisely - in fact you equate Oldham and Pompey too equally. Oldham will give us a very hard time indeed, where as Pompey would like to win but not to die for. They also know there is a penalty shoot out!



Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2235 on December 01, 2017, 06:36:31 am
Coventry won this last year then got relegated. I like others want to win every game but we are currently in a relegation battle


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2995 on December 01, 2017, 07:20:32 am
I don’t really care if we win or lose this game , but I hope we can use the match to settle our formation and attempt to pass the ball more than three consecutive times without going back to the keeper .
I notice both Buchs and Moloney have both insisted we played well on Saturday in the press .
If you tell someone something enough times , they begin to believe it !
We were awful lads and looked like relegation fodder - admit it and move on .


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: The Rauldinho on December 01, 2017, 08:22:38 am
How dare you put Bowditch in the team!  ???

Okay, just for you!  ;):

               Cornell

Moloney Poole Barnett Smith

        Foley McWilliams

Waters  McGugan Hanley

               Lobjoit


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: clarkeysntfc on December 01, 2017, 08:31:03 am
Cornell

Moloney Taylor McGivern Smith

Poole McWilliams

Waters McGugan Bowditch

Richards


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: clarkeysntfc on December 01, 2017, 08:45:39 am
We were awful lads and looked like relegation fodder - admit it and move on .

Awful, really? We have limited options in attack/wide positions in our squad as it is, thanks to the recruitment of the previous manager. Those options were severely diminished last week due to the absence of Powell, O'Toole, Hoskins and Revell. Despite this we created more than enough chances to beat Bury, but were unfortunately unable to take them.

No, we weren't brilliant, and yes it's frustrating that we are playing square pegs in round holes e.g. Crooks left wing, but it's what the manager has to work with right now and we have to accept it until it can be changed in Jan.

Awful is how I'd describe the 1-4 defeat by Wycombe in Boothroyd's last game, or the 3-4 home defeat by Hereford, or the performances at the start of the Johnson era.

JFH is doing his best to turn us in to a hard to beat L1 side, which with a few exceptions (Bristol R, Sc***horpe) is working. Give the bloke a chance.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 01, 2017, 08:59:36 am
.

..........
We were awful lads and looked like relegation fodder - admit it and move on .

Seems you are a top man manager ::).......can remember a fluky win at Stanley some years ago under CW where he praised/massaged the side. I find your constant pronouncements on last Saturday game extremely negative.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 09:07:04 am
Awful, really?

We really were. Drawing 0-0 at home against one of two teams below us really is awful and relegation fodder. Hard to disagree with this.

We won't get many games easier than Bury at home.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 01, 2017, 09:09:38 am
We really were. Drawing 0-0 at home against one of two teams below us really is awful and relegation fodder. Hard to disagree with this.

We won't get many games easier than Bury at home.

Another great man manager!


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 09:16:27 am
Another great man manager!

The players won't need explaining in great detail that losing to the bottom placed team, followed by drawing 0-0 with second bottom placed team is a terrible run of two games. All depends on your ambition and standards. If you enjoy League Two football, then so be it.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 01, 2017, 09:52:52 am
The players won't need explaining in great detail that losing to the bottom placed team, followed by drawing 0-0 with second bottom placed team is a terrible run of two games. All depends on your ambition and standards. If you enjoy League Two football, then so be it.
Would you still describe OUR performance on Saturday
We really were. Drawing 0-0 at home against one of two teams below us really is awful and relegation fodder. Hard to disagree with this.

We won't get many games easier than Bury at home.
I'll give that ago then, with a question.
Would you still describe OUR performance on Saturday as awful if the opposition had been Wigan?



Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 10:03:37 am
Would you still describe OUR performance on Saturday as awful if the opposition had been Wigan?

Weird comparison (and impossible to make), as we played a team 25 points and 22 league postions worse off. From this, you would assume a 0-0 at Bury would translate into approximately a very dominant win for Wigan? But we all know football doesn't work like that, as they only narrowly beat us whilst it was fellow relegation candidates, Bristol Rovers who hit us for 6.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 01, 2017, 11:27:29 am
Weird comparison (and impossible to make), as we played a team 25 points and 22 league postions worse off. From this, you would assume a 0-0 at Bury would translate into approximately a very dominant win for Wigan? But we all know football doesn't work like that, as they only narrowly beat us whilst it was fellow relegation candidates, Bristol Rovers who hit us for 6.
Not weird at all in my book. They top our league which is why I used them. Your reminder of the Rovers result strengthens the point.
You can't play the oppositions game for them, it was another league one side not Man City.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 12:56:45 pm
Not weird at all in my book. They top our league which is why I used them. Your reminder of the Rovers result strengthens the point.
You can't play the oppositions game for them, it was another league one side not Man City.


Okay, it's not a weird comparison. For arguments sake, Wigan rolled into Northampton last Saturday. They decided to play like relegation fodder for a bit of a joke, and we matched them in all departments resulting in a terribly boring match for all sides involved. I'll be disappointed not to take advantage of this.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 01, 2017, 13:23:37 pm
The players won't need explaining in great detail that losing to the bottom placed team, followed by drawing 0-0 with second bottom placed team is a terrible run of two games. All depends on your ambition and standards. If you enjoy League Two football, then so be it.

I am sure that the players wont need reminding that they had a poor result against Plymouth! As for Bury it was a boring game, but to label it as a terrible result is over reaction. The main thing we did not lose or even concede a goal. Somehow JFH has to keep his players confidence levels up; not easy after the booing last Saturday. Its called man management - any self respecting captain of any sports side would publicly support his players. If you were at the last Trust Meeting it was evident he (JFH) was greatly supportive of those players who failed to score and their performance on the day. Most supporters wish the Club to do well and climb the league. I doubt many wish to return L2 ::).
IMO your opinion smacks of 'toys out the pram' after a disappointing result. Perhaps you might consider adopting a more flexible outlook particularly when man management comes into play.

E&OE.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2995 on December 01, 2017, 13:28:43 pm
Awful, really? We have limited options in attack/wide positions in our squad as it is, thanks to the recruitment of the previous manager. Those options were severely diminished last week due to the absence of Powell, O'Toole, Hoskins and Revell. Despite this we created more than enough chances to beat Bury, but were unfortunately unable to take them.

No, we weren't brilliant, and yes it's frustrating that we are playing square pegs in round holes e.g. Crooks left wing, but it's what the manager has to work with right now and we have to accept it until it can be changed in Jan.

Awful is how I'd describe the 1-4 defeat by Wycombe in Boothroyd's last game, or the 3-4 home defeat by Hereford, or the performances at the start of the Johnson era.

JFH is doing his best to turn us in to a hard to beat L1 side, which with a few exceptions (Bristol R, Sc***horpe) is working. Give the bloke a chance.
Yep , awful and relegation fodder is exactly what I meant .
Two terrible teams that barely put three consecutive passes together throughout the entire match.
We know all the excuses about lack of balance , but that doesn’t stop the verdict .
JFH , Moloney and Buchs can use propaganda to convince themselves, but that standard of football is well below acceptable .
As for man management - I’m sorry that’s not my job ..
Having said that I wouldn’t boo unless no effort was being made .


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 01, 2017, 13:33:50 pm
Okay, it's not a weird comparison. For arguments sake, Wigan rolled into Northampton last Saturday. They decided to play like relegation fodder for a bit of a joke, and we matched them in all departments resulting in a terribly boring match for all sides involved. I'll be disappointed not to take advantage of this.
You said it, we lose 1-0 to Wigan away and get steamrolled by Rovers 0-6 at home. This is league one, go figure.
I didn't agree with Jimmy that we played really well and said so, but I disagree we played awful. We had enough chances to win the game.
I'm saying people's judgement on our own performance is affected by what colour shirt the opposition are wearing.
If it were Wigan, awful would probably become OK in an apologists mind, inspiite of the fact we would have played the same.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 13:34:21 pm
IMO your opinion smacks of 'toys out the pram' after a disappointing result. Perhaps you might consider adopting a more flexible outlook particularly when man management comes into play.

E&OE.

A. It's not 'a disappointing result'. It's literally the whole campaign that has left us struggling to leave the relegation zone.
B. I wasn't discussing man management at all? I'm really not sure as to your point here... ?


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 01, 2017, 13:41:17 pm
Yep , awful and relegation fodder is exactly what I meant .
Two terrible teams that barely put three consecutive passes together throughout the entire match.
We know all the excuses about lack of balance , but that doesn’t stop the verdict .
JFH , Moloney and Buchs can use propaganda to convince themselves, but that standard of football is well below acceptable .
As for man management - I’m sorry that’s not my job ..
Having said that I wouldn’t boo unless no effort was being made .
'Barely three passes together?' I thought the fact we put too many passes together without enough cutting edge was the problem in the critics mind!


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2995 on December 01, 2017, 13:52:36 pm
'Barely three passes together?' I thought the fact we put too many passes together without enough cutting edge was the problem in the critics mind!
Three consecutive passes don’t include those that go back to the goalkeeper , only for him to launch it and we lose possession.
The movement , especially in the first half was appalling and play constantly broke down .
It makes no difference if you play Wigan or Bury - a poor performance is a poor performance . It’s even worst when you play a team that were equally as bad .
We also don’t create many chances - it’s a myth that we do .


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 01, 2017, 14:10:44 pm
A. It's not 'a disappointing result'. It's literally the whole campaign that has left us struggling to leave the relegation zone.
B. I wasn't discussing man management at all? I'm really not sure as to your point here... ?


Would have thought the point is clear enough - you described the result as awful. Man Management; just refer back to your message timed at 10:16:27 especially the opening sentence which gives a hint why man management was seized on. You give the impression that you have a low opinion of man management?


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Wolvo on December 01, 2017, 14:13:47 pm

Would have thought the point is clear enough - you described the result as awful. Man Management; just refer back to your message timed at 10:16:27 especially the opening sentence which gives a hint why man management was seized on. You give the impression that you have a low opinion of man management?

Who am I man-managing in the Cobblers team..? I'm literally just a regular fan.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 01, 2017, 14:23:28 pm
Three consecutive passes don’t include those that go back to the goalkeeper , only for him to launch it and we lose possession.
The movement , especially in the first half was appalling and play constantly broke down .
It makes no difference if you play Wigan or Bury - a poor performance is a poor performance . It’s even worst when you play a team that were equally as bad .
We also don’t create many chances - it’s a myth that we do .
I thought you might come back and say you were using a turn of phrase, but you actually barely saw more than three passes between either sets of outfield players?..
Not sure we can take that any further then.

As for a performance not depending on the opposition, we agree. Exactly my point!
Unfortunately, we disagree on the standard of our performance on Saturday still.

Not saying we create lots of chances either, but on Saturday Richards alone had two inside the six yard box, and that is an example of what Jimmy said in his post match interview; that it can be a game of fine margins.
Though in retrospect, maybe he should have said that about HIS idea of football.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 01, 2017, 14:32:37 pm
Who am I man-managing in the Cobblers team..? I'm literally just a regular fan.

Fair enough - you where very outspoken in criticism of last Saturday's game which of course you are entitled to. I and perhaps one or two others don't agree with you. There was no allowance for player selections and/or absence which might have helped to validate your opinion.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Ed on December 02, 2017, 09:35:04 am
You can watch the game on iFollow for a fiver. Half tempted.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 10:46:40 am
You can watch the game on iFollow for a fiver. Half tempted.

Only a fiver to get in


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: just.reading on December 02, 2017, 11:22:38 am
Should be able to stream online free somewhere once the game kicks off


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Ed on December 02, 2017, 11:55:15 am
Not sure what's worse... Our ability to create anything or the cameramans work...


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Air-Dan on December 02, 2017, 12:12:51 pm
1-0 Portsmouth


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Baldy on December 02, 2017, 12:13:08 pm
Surprisingly we're losing 1-0. Well I never.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Air-Dan on December 02, 2017, 12:47:01 pm
2-0

Attendance 1,780 with 128 Cobblers


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2677 on December 02, 2017, 12:47:37 pm
Surprisingly we're losing 1-0. Well I never.
2-0. Wembley dream is fading..


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: craigwest on December 02, 2017, 12:55:22 pm
iFollow video free if you already pay for the usual audio etc.  Not sure the cameraman is used to football, more like my Dad waving his phone about while trying to Facetime and very nearly missed the second goal (which  arguably wouldn't have been a bad thing).

Audio also painful, tried turning it down and listening to the usual BBC commentary instead but they are a minute or so ahead of the video.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Irchy cob on December 02, 2017, 13:03:46 pm
Not only are we going out with a whimper but we’re also picking up injuries - both long and Poole.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Air-Dan on December 02, 2017, 13:22:16 pm
Full time. Terrible again. Only positive is it wasn't a league game this time


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on December 02, 2017, 13:29:37 pm
Our performance was about the same standard as that of the camerman - awful.  This is a side going through the motions, scared of shooting and with too many effete midfielders who don't get their shorts dirty. JFH seems unable to motivate this lot.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest3103 on December 02, 2017, 13:30:30 pm
It doesn't matter who we bring in come January, with this clown in charge his insipid football will take us down.

And I'm pretty sure the camera operator was not human.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Irchy cob on December 02, 2017, 13:35:26 pm
Luckily since jimmy’s comments in midweek I’ve managed my expectations so I’m not getting suicidal over our complete inability to score a goal.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Ralap on December 02, 2017, 13:46:08 pm
What a serving of s***e that was. JFK is going to have to dig out a handful of diamonds for the top half of the pitch in the window if this isn’t going to be another season of bitter disappointment and a return to the bottom rung.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 14:32:56 pm
Luckily since jimmy’s comments in midweek I’ve managed my expectations so I’m not getting suicidal over our complete inability to score a goal.

Thank goodness for Cornell as it could have been 4 or 5 nil.
Defensively I suppose we did ok in preventing a rout! As a unit the midfield was poor although Crooks and McCugan individually played ok in spells. Poole performance was disappointing and his passing even more so. Before I criticise the side too much we were missing JJOT, Grimes,Powell, McWilliams,Pierre and Ingham I suppose. Richards was very much a peripheral player as was Hoskins tho’ less so! Long for me was a disappointment never in the game and looked he did not want to be. I am afraid Pompey outclassed us 2nd half, but thanks to Cornell and some sterling defensive work the score was only 2-0. They missed quite a few too. After this performance you really do worry about the team. Fwds unable to retain the ball and a side on the day lacking quality. Hoskins on this showing is not the answer at least on the wing. Side today badly lacked a leader. It makes you dread the Oldham game, but with the absentee’s back we might surprise Oldham and ourselves!


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2235 on December 02, 2017, 14:45:51 pm
Anybody else baffled by the new contract handed out to Sam Hoskins? He has hardly featured for JFH, what’s he seen in that brief spell to hand out a 2+ deal??


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on December 02, 2017, 15:35:02 pm
Anybody else baffled by the new contract handed out to Sam Hoskins? He has hardly featured for JFH, what’s he seen in that brief spell to hand out a 2+ deal??

Sammy is, has and will always be league 2 standard at best


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 16:09:09 pm
Sammy is, has and will always be league 2 standard at best

Cue hat trick next Sat!


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2487 on December 02, 2017, 16:56:32 pm
Bit concerning that JFH is calling Hoskins one of our most important players.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Ralap on December 02, 2017, 17:31:45 pm
I personally don’t get Hoskins at all. He reminds me of Gilligan and I wasn’t his biggest fan.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: super-si on December 02, 2017, 17:37:34 pm
I’m sorry to say that with the supposed overflow of midfield talent we have, they cannot muster an effective threat to any team at the moment. Crooks promises so much, but delivers little! Between them they don’t show enough spirit and derermination. JJOT is a big miss. Delivery to the forwards is poor...and we know that we are already lacking lacking in that department.
I don’t think we can blame JFH at the moment. The business his predecessor did in the summer was curious to say the least. JFH has already said that he will try and shift players out in January - and I suspect that there are one or two in the squad who may not have as good an attitude as he would like.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Irchy cob on December 02, 2017, 17:51:30 pm
I’m also getting a bit fed up with the complete lack of accurate injury updates - Powell has been supposedly in contention to return for the last 2 weeks but is somehow still touch and go for next Saturday, likewise with jjot who was supposed to be having a fitness test for last weeks match and now seems unlikely to be back for Oldham. If JFH wants a result at Oldham he’s got to move heaven and earth to get Powell, jjot, crooks and long (and 7 others!) fit and on the pitch together - only then are we going to have the chance of stopping the rot.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest3063 on December 02, 2017, 18:37:03 pm
Bit concerning that JFH is calling Hoskins one of our most important players.

He has pace, something the rest of the squad is sadly lacking. So, yes he is fairly important at the moment.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on December 02, 2017, 18:46:23 pm
I personally don’t get Hoskins at all. He reminds me of Gilligan and I wasn’t his biggest fan.

Agree totally, hoskins is a bang average league 2 player at best.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2995 on December 02, 2017, 18:47:02 pm
I think we are in a bit of trouble .
We haven’t managed to get our best players firing at all .
January won’t solve all if any of the problems.
The players we already have need to step up .


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest3063 on December 02, 2017, 19:04:52 pm
I like Sam Hoskins.

Last season he was one of the only players to actually worry teams in this league, okay he needs to score more but add that to his game and he could prove a big asset in the next couple of years. He's still only 24.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2487 on December 02, 2017, 19:53:40 pm
He has pace, something the rest of the squad is sadly lacking. So, yes he is fairly important at the moment.


I get that.

Just think it's a sign of the squad that he's one of the most important players.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: super-si on December 02, 2017, 20:04:03 pm
Hoskins has the right attitude and commitment. In the right hands and with his pace he will develop into a really good no. 8.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 02, 2017, 20:18:38 pm
I personally don’t get Hoskins at all. He reminds me of Gilligan and I wasn’t his biggest fan.
Include me, in that statement.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: tcobb on December 02, 2017, 20:28:50 pm
Hoskins will struggle to play League Football in the next year or so, National League at best.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Shoemaker on December 02, 2017, 20:33:35 pm
Bit concerning that JFH is calling Hoskins one of our most important players.
In fairness he’s trying to prepare us for the fact we won’t be spending money on decent strikers instead trying to convince us and himself that Sam Hoskins is the answer to our goalscoring woes.......
The clues regards January are coming through loud and clear....


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on December 02, 2017, 20:36:10 pm
In fairness he’s trying to prepare us for the fact we won’t be spending money on decent strikers instead trying to convince us and himself that Sam Hoskins is the answer to our goalscoring woes.......
The clues regards January are coming through loud and clear....

Well if that's what his doing shoes,  no one will buy it and it certainly will not work


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 20:48:14 pm
Well if that's what his doing shoes,  no one will buy it and it certainly will not work


?


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Irchy cob on December 02, 2017, 20:50:19 pm
It's impossible for us to speculate on who we're going to be able to bring in as we have no information to go on other than KT saying that funds are there. With the Chinese remaining mute in the background who can say whether JFH is going to be given big money to splash out on permanent signings (which would be a long term statement) or if we're going to go for "high quality" loanees. I have got to say that if we are signing this midfielder from Southend then it isn't exactly the most inspiring of starts to the squad rebuilding.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 22:05:46 pm
I think we are in a bit of trouble .
We haven’t managed to get our best players firing at all .
January won’t solve all if any of the problems.
The players we already have need to step up .

You might be a miserable old git, but do you have to incessantly bore us with your domesday pronouncements.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on December 02, 2017, 22:30:41 pm
You might be a miserable old git, but do you have to incessantly bore us with your domesday pronouncements.

I'd call it honesty nevers.

Maybe you should try it sometime, I know how difficult you find it removing those claret tinted specs.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 02, 2017, 23:14:09 pm
I'd call it honesty nevers.

Maybe you should try it sometime, I know how difficult you find it removing those claret tinted specs.

Do you? It might be honesty to you, but sounded like a wail to me.  I was at the game today and can assure there is no way I look at the current situation thru' tinted glasses, claret or otherwise.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on December 03, 2017, 09:00:13 am
In the context of where we are in the League our exit is probably a good thing but yesterday was not impressive and although I don't see JFH as being under pressure for his job he has clearly failed to turn things around quickly once he has had his say in the transfer market.  I think we will do well to stay in this division. January is key and apart from the glaring need for a couple of proven strikers other players need replacing.  Midfield continues to disappoint.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on December 03, 2017, 09:02:00 am
Just up!  I means clearly needs..........


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest2995 on December 03, 2017, 18:45:51 pm
You might be a miserable old git, but do you have to incessantly bore us with your domesday pronouncements.
So you think we are fine do you ?
You crack on pal .
We are in trouble -there is no evidence of anything improving and we create very few chances .


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: everbrite on December 03, 2017, 22:15:18 pm
So you think we are fine do you ?



I didn't say that did I - like most on here am worried about current situation. Difficult to think otherwise is it not? My point is that your repetitive posts on any game we lose is accompanied by a doomsday wail. Never any constructive comment how to get out of the mess we are in. Just a long winded moan - why don't you get a life. Better still get yourself and your accomplice ;D off to Oldham ; you might bring us luck.


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 04, 2017, 19:54:09 pm
I blame Baldy we always lose when he doesn't show up..


Title: Re: Pompey (A) Checkatrade Trophy (R2) 2/12 (12.30pm)
Post by: guest3114 on December 04, 2017, 22:17:30 pm
The frustrating thing for me is that the improvement we show with JJ in the team suggests we are actually only a couple of players short of being a good side? Hope we get an extended run out of him soon?