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The Hotel End => Cobblers Corner => Topic started by: guest3063 on January 03, 2018, 17:29:28 pm



Title: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest3063 on January 03, 2018, 17:29:28 pm
Another 2pm kick-off this weekend for the visit of Southend United.

One in, two out so far. I wonder how many more changes will be made before Saturdays game?

We desperately need a win from this one and with Hilderberto running up and down the wing, surely this is possible.       


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 03, 2018, 17:39:21 pm
Need to get a decent striker in before the game as well and I do agree this is a must win..

Hilda needs to start to freshen the team up.

I'm going 2-1 Cobbs..



Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 03, 2018, 18:00:08 pm
Jimmy definitely gave the impression in his post match interview that the new players he was looking to bring in would likely start on the bench - I hope that's not the case and echo the wish for a new striker in time for Saturday.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: just.reading on January 03, 2018, 18:51:57 pm
4-0 I've got a very good feeling this week...


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Wolvo on January 03, 2018, 19:17:47 pm
Would love to see us start with Pereira and Powell this week. 2 out and out wingers, and both with pace to utilise.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Poggy on January 05, 2018, 10:17:25 am
Massive game and almost a must win for us to keep pace with those above given the tough run of fixtures to come. With a couple of new additions we should be a bit stronger at least


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 05, 2018, 11:19:52 am
Would love to see us start with Pereira and Powell this week. 2 out and out wingers, and both with pace to utilise.

Got to happen, even if Berto can only last 45 mins.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest143 on January 05, 2018, 11:27:10 am
It's a good time to play Southend. Phil Brown is under pressure, they have a few first team players out injured and looks like Chris Wilder is set to sign Ryan Leonard.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 05, 2018, 12:15:54 pm
Any team predictions? I'd like to see:

          Ingram

Facey Ash Pierre Smith

     McWilliams JJOT

Berto Crooks/Grimes Powell

            Long


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 05, 2018, 12:27:53 pm
Going forward based on Jimmy's comments

              Ingram
      Facey Taylor Pierre
Perriera O'Toole Grimes Smith
      Crooks Long Powell

Finally WB's that work? Facey seems the perfect player to play on the right of the 3. Hopefully a better quality than Smith to come in.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2018, 12:55:28 pm
Said all along...4-1 win, with or without Hilda Ogden and Kevin Spacey!

I'm not going!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 05, 2018, 12:57:26 pm
I may have missed it but do we know if Pierre is likely to be fit?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2018, 13:21:38 pm
We HAVE to win this game, no ifs or buts it really is a must win.
I like the idea of Powell and Berto on the wings but they need someone to to cross to JJ or Revell?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 05, 2018, 13:49:34 pm
Any team predictions? I'd like to see:

          Ingram

Facey Ash Pierre Smith

     McWilliams JJOT

Berto Crooks/Grimes Powell

            Long


Wouldn't mind seeing the team you've picked get a run out, especially Grimes further forward but I don't think we'll see it. I reckon Jimmy will go (based on Pierre being a doubt)

Ingram

Maloney Poole Taylor Buchs

Grimes Crooks

Hilda JJOT Powell

Long

Jimmy made a big play of Buchs simply being rested and also of McWilliams apparently tiring. Not sure on Facey, interesting to see if Jimmy thinks he's first choice or has come in as back-up with Maloney and Phillips' injury records in mind.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 05, 2018, 14:18:48 pm
McWilliams has got to start - he’s one of the first names on the team sheet for me now, surely he can’t be that tired?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2018, 14:21:59 pm
Wouldn't mind seeing the team you've picked get a run out, especially Grimes further forward but I don't think we'll see it. I reckon Jimmy will go (based on Pierre being a doubt)

Ingram

Maloney Poole Taylor Buchs

Grimes Crooks

Hilda JJOT Powell

Long

Jimmy made a big play of Buchs simply being rested and also of McWilliams apparently tiring. Not sure on Facey, interesting to see if Jimmy thinks he's first choice or has come in as back-up with Maloney and Phillips' injury records in mind.
I think you've got the team bang on there, let's see if the tinker man agrees


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 05, 2018, 14:26:24 pm
McWilliams has got to start - he’s one of the first names on the team sheet for me now, surely he can’t be that tired?

I completely agree with you. The team I put is a prediction of Jimmy's thoughts, I reckon he'll use the fact he took McWilliams off as an excuse to get him back on the bench - just my guess.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 05, 2018, 14:45:13 pm
McWilliams has got to start - he’s one of the first names on the team sheet for me now, surely he can’t be that tired?

For me he should, he has the potential to be a half decent player that has come through our youth team and we should be doing all we can to give him the game time needed to fulfil that.

One of the few that actually look like they give a s*** when our backs are to the wall.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2018, 15:39:54 pm
For me he should, he has the potential to be a half decent player that has come through our youth team and we should be doing all we can to give him the game time needed to fulfil that.

One of the few that actually look like they give a **** when our backs are to the wall.
I like McWilliams but who would he replace? Grimes, Crooks or JJOT.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 05, 2018, 15:42:49 pm
I like McWilliams but who would he replace? Grimes, Crooks or JJOT.

Grimes, he's was tripe last week.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 05, 2018, 15:44:57 pm
I like McWilliams but who would he replace? Grimes, Crooks or JJOT.

See my team posted earlier, I would only play one of Crooks/Grimes in the central "advanced" role with McWilliams next to JJ in a 4-2-3-1.

My temptation would be to send Grimes back and tell Crooks to man up and show the form that made us sign him, but don't think we have room for both in our side. Crooks does add some height to the forward area and he is our player so should be bothered about where we end up.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2677 on January 05, 2018, 15:53:28 pm
I like McWilliams but who would he replace? Grimes, Crooks or JJOT.

I'd go with Grimes as well.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Trickymicky on January 05, 2018, 16:34:53 pm
We HAVE to win this game, no ifs or buts it really is a must win.
I like the idea of Powell and Berto on the wings but they need someone to to cross to JJ or Revell?

Agree but please not Revell or Rico, their ships have sailed and should be out of contention totally and moved on, time to shake the tree JFH.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2018, 18:10:06 pm
Landlord of the Lamb & Flag in the centre of Oxford wearing a Cobblers top tonight (photos on Facebook!)...gotta be a good omen!  ;D


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2018, 18:55:24 pm
proof please ;)
Check my FB...simples!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2018, 20:12:47 pm
If I must :(

or pm link please?
Check Twitter #ntfc


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: memyhead on January 05, 2018, 22:40:11 pm
Don't think either of the two eligible new signings will start...
hope I'm proved wrong as we definitely need a spark from the get go tomorrow...


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Zen Master on January 06, 2018, 09:17:24 am
I hope they start. If they have both been training with the squad for some time then there should be no reason regarding fitness.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 06, 2018, 11:30:59 am
Powell is in the photos with the kids face painting outside the East on Twitter, guess he is not starting?

https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/949614996614533121 (https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/949614996614533121)


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 06, 2018, 11:42:15 am
Powell is in the photos with the kids face painting outside the East on Twitter, guess he is not starting?

https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/949614996614533121 (https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/949614996614533121)
You do realize they are old photos from previous games.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest143 on January 06, 2018, 12:07:32 pm
Jimmy Floyd Shuffledeck is back to picking names out of a hat I see.

I do feel sorry for George Smith not evening making the substitutes bench today.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: just.reading on January 06, 2018, 12:13:34 pm
Jimmy Floyd Shuffledeck is back to picking names out of a hat I see.

I do feel sorry for George Smith not evening making the substitutes bench today.

Injured.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Aitobs on January 06, 2018, 12:17:54 pm
Cobblers XI: Ingram, Facey, Poole, Taylor, Buchanan (c), Crooks, Grimes, Hoskins, O'Toole, Foley, Long

Subs: Moloney, Cornell, McWilliams, Pereira, Waters, Richards, Revell


Shay Facey makes his Cobblers debut. Pereira features on the bench, whilst Revell also has a place on the bench for the first time in months.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest143 on January 06, 2018, 12:21:55 pm
Injured.
Thanks, just clocked it. Still, Mcwilliams shuffled out of the pack. Can we sell Revell at a car boot sale or something?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 12:42:16 pm
Jimmy Floyd Shuffledeck is back to picking names out of a hat I see.

I do feel sorry for George Smith not evening making the substitutes bench today.

Despite him being controversially named mam of the match last week I thought he was very poor.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 12:44:17 pm
Don't know why, but I'm quitely confident we will get something today. Hopefully seeing brown get sacked in the process.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 13:15:36 pm
Jeez this is poor - both sides massively lacking confidence resorting to hoofball.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:18:00 pm
Jeez this is poor - both sides massively lacking confidence resorting to hoofball.
No change there then.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 13:19:52 pm
Afternoon. Another reshuffle....


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:20:43 pm
Hello Was.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:22:06 pm
I've just seen that The Revmeister's on the bench. Get him on the pitch!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:22:36 pm
Get in there!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 13:23:19 pm
J J O'T 😊


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:24:13 pm
No Dr. Feelgood again then. Part timer!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 13:27:14 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 13:37:51 pm
Very poor - they’re winning the midfield battle, neither grimes or crooks has the ability to tackle/break the game up. Long is isolated and playing o’toole as a number 10 isn’t working.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 06, 2018, 13:43:23 pm
Aimless hoofball, we don’t want to play.....at least the Shrimpers try and keep it down a bit!!



Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 13:45:41 pm
Quite how McWilliams isn’t deemed good enough to get in this midfield is beyond me.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 06, 2018, 13:50:01 pm
At least in the Boothroyd years there were people who could win a header. Hoskins has done alright and that’s the only positive I’ve got.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 13:50:44 pm
We seem very stressed and eager to score too quickly. We just need to be calm, its only January. It wasn't a pen.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 06, 2018, 13:53:21 pm
Turgid football, even for us.

Sammy and Facey have done okay, Long is doing his best but still very isolated.

They are winning every 50/50, Grimes has lost the ball a lot again today.

Our goal was pretty lucky, but followed a decent delivery from Grimes. Didn’t look a pen from where I sit but we let our heads drop after that.

Agree that McWilliams must be wondering what he has to do to be in the first eleven.

All that and I have a small child kicking my seat again. Berto better get 20 minutes!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 13:58:08 pm
Not great so far but the penalty decision was a disgrace. I've never seen a penalty given before for a clash of heads based on a 50-50 ball.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 13:58:48 pm
The intensity and work rate we showed against Blackburn and Wigan isn’t there for some reason - surely someone told them that this is a pretty important match?!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 13:59:59 pm
Not great so far but the penalty decision was a disgrace. I've never seen a penalty given before for a clash of heads based on a 50-50 ball.

James heneghan from the chron reckons it was stonewall - need to see it again.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:08:53 pm
Grimes!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:14:56 pm
Grimes is the greatest..


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:17:00 pm
We need to get The Revmeister off the bench and onto the pitch!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:19:30 pm
We're decent at the moment. I missed the first half as i had a ton of ironing.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:20:54 pm
We're decent at the moment. I missed the first half as i had a ton of ironing.
How many garments?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Aitobs on January 06, 2018, 14:22:57 pm
Hildeberto is on for Foley


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 14:23:12 pm
Omg we've scored two?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:24:18 pm
How many garments?
17


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Aitobs on January 06, 2018, 14:25:32 pm
Long has a second penalty shout but this one is turned away by the referee.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Aitobs on January 06, 2018, 14:26:13 pm
Hildeberto shoots narrowly wide with his second touch for the club


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Aitobs on January 06, 2018, 14:28:16 pm
Hildeberto has a golden chance, 1-on-1 with the keeper and he fluffs it, shooting over the crossbar.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:28:27 pm
17
Fantastic!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:28:34 pm
Hildas a beast


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:29:14 pm
Hildas a beast
He's on fire!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:32:42 pm
We should be 3 -1 up...im starting to get a horrible feeling


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:34:19 pm
Fantastic!
why thankyou


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:34:31 pm
Southend bring on Norman Wabo. What a great name.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 14:35:28 pm
Hilda sounds like a cult hero in the making...


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:36:52 pm
If Grimes and the Longmeister could put the ball on target we'd be 6-1 up..Time for the Revmeister


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:41:51 pm
Come on Town let's have another goal!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:43:02 pm
Southend almost score..cmon lads this will be a horrible last 8mins


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:44:15 pm
It's all set up for Norman Wabo to score.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 14:46:34 pm
We're hanging on here


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:47:35 pm
The Revmeister's on!!! Here we go!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:49:36 pm
Get in there!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 14:49:41 pm
You were right Baldy!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:49:56 pm
THE REVMEISTER


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:50:38 pm
You were right Baldy!
hes the greatest


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:51:11 pm
THE REVMEISTER
He did it!!! Our hero!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 14:52:35 pm
Haha Revell. Staking a claim for the new strikers spot...


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:52:48 pm
This is the greatest day of my sad life!!!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:53:17 pm
Good shot as well tucked it away nicely. I think he and Hilda will become a great team


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WasRambo on January 06, 2018, 14:55:18 pm
Oldham and Bury both losing. Maybe we're not done yet.

Sarfend must be total gash...


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 06, 2018, 14:55:49 pm
3-1FT...excellent


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Baldy on January 06, 2018, 14:56:15 pm
We'll storm this league now!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 14:58:20 pm
So much better second half. What impressed me most was the way we kept going for it even after the second goal. More concerted pressure and quite a few chances. Surprise, surprise this also makes the other team more nervous and play worse. Well done Cobblers! Please don't let it be another false dawn.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 15:04:07 pm
Well done boys, much needed 3 points


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 06, 2018, 15:13:26 pm
Did I just enjoy a game of football?  :o

See how confidence makes a difference then. We really struggled until we got the second and then we became a proper League 1 team.

Both new players had great games - maybe just a great cameo for Perreira but what a bit of skill!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest143 on January 06, 2018, 15:26:01 pm
Both new players had great games - maybe just a great cameo for Perreira but what a bit of skill!

If you have a real winger with pace, that can beat his man then you can always be a threat.

Our previous formations of just central/holding midfielders across the line, relied heavily on very successful passing to break through teams which is difficult. Example being Long's first goal against Portsmouth at home.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: SteveRiches on January 06, 2018, 15:30:36 pm
I am happy for the first time since Oxford away.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 06, 2018, 15:45:17 pm
A game of two halves they say....

First half was what we have become used to, just slightly worse.

Second half we worked harder and once Long won the pen we looked like a pretty decent side. Defensively Poole was fantastic today, won loads in the air against bigger players and a good mix of hoofing it and trying to play out. Facey had a great debut, really composed other than a few nervy moments playing back to Ingram. Buchs was decent today, Ash his usual self apart from the ten minutes after the pen was given against him where he lost it.

Sammy Hoskins had a great game out wide, Foley was steady on the other side. Crooks had a great second half, Grimes delivery was vastly improved but he still loses the ball too much for me. Good to see him being vocal with those around him though.

JJ won free kicks and headers galore and got a nice re-direct for his goal. Long was brilliant today, hassled well and his movement superb with and without the ball. Deserved a goal.

Hildeberto missed a gaping open goal after coming on to a big fanfare then didn't touch the ball for twenty minutes. The next time he did he beat a man on the half way line to charge forward on the break and set up Revs for a tidy finish. Will certainly be one to make things happen I think.

Happy as we have a massive three points, hope we see more of the second half flowing football than the first half hoofball.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2539 on January 06, 2018, 15:48:58 pm
Poole, Facey and Long excellent today.
Ist half both sides poor. Second half a game of football broke out! We started passing and breaking with PACE. Hilda could have scored two goals with his first two touches.
Revell had a pop at JFH after scoring so I presume he will be leaving this week?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 15:50:33 pm
The celebrations after revs’ goal we’re a bit telling - first of all for some reason Jimmy turned round to the fans pointing to himself and then revs came running to Jimmy clearly saying “that’s why” over and over - all a bit unedifying to be honest when they should have been more concerned with celebrating with each other.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 15:55:19 pm
Pretty sure thats the same celebration he did when he scored v Manchester United. Non story.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 06, 2018, 16:34:49 pm
Fantastic second half after a garbage first half which included the worst penalty decision I've seen against us. Played with power, determination and pace in that second half. Hoskins, Crooks, Grimes, Long all upped their games and Perreira gave us that extra bit of spark and skill and creativity that we just haven't had this season. And what a finish from forgotten man Revell. Set up by the man Perreira and coolly finished. The celebration was interesting- it was different to when he scored vs Man Utd as that was not long after his father passed away which was more of a dedication to him. This seemed to be making a point that he maybe thinks he should be the number one striker or he only needs one chance. I'm sure we'll find a bit out later.
Tough one next week at Bradford but we can hopefully give them a game, then MK at home becomes another massive game. We need to pack Sixfields out for that one - how about a promotion from the club for this one, season ticket holders bring a friend for a tenner or free drink or food item with every ticket. It might not make a big difference but anything to help get people in.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 06, 2018, 16:35:13 pm
Facey was absolutely different gravy I thought. Moloney will be getting splinters in his backside for a long time yet if he carries on like that.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Wolvo on January 06, 2018, 16:43:06 pm
Facey was absolutely different gravy I thought. Moloney will be getting splinters in his backside for a long time yet if he carries on like that.

Agreed. Absolutely class first game. He seemed to hold the ball and release it down the line once Long had already started moving - vast improvement on Moloney/Buchs kicking it towards the corner flag at every opportunity.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 06, 2018, 16:45:22 pm
We need to pack Sixfields out for that one - how about a promotion from the club for this one, season ticket holders bring a friend for a tenner or free drink or food item with every ticket. It might not make a big difference but anything to help get people in.

Would be a great idea.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: #Frank on January 06, 2018, 16:47:18 pm
The celebrations after revs’ goal we’re a bit telling - first of all for some reason Jimmy turned round to the fans pointing to himself and then revs came running to Jimmy clearly saying “that’s why” over and over - all a bit unedifying to be honest when they should have been more concerned with celebrating with each other.

Nothing wrong with a show of passion and I would expect it was "that why you don't need a new striker" . Well done revs and if you are off , good luck. Interesting to see him chatting with the Southend fans after the final whistle, maybe he's off there?


Any one know why the young fella in the top of the west was dragged out? See him at every game I go home and away and doesn't strike me as a trouble maker.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 06, 2018, 16:49:50 pm
The first half was one of the worst 45 minutes of football I can recall seeing. The second half was much better and thoroughly enjoyable. I like the look of Facey; solid and dependable with really good composure and reading of the game. I think I'm a little bit in love with Berto after his 30 minute cameo. That bit of skill at the start of his run that led to Rev''s goal was outrageous!

Even if we end up dropping down a level, I can see the games between now and the end of the season being a lot more entertaining with him involved!! If we can add a little more firepower to feed off his runs and a bit of a seasoned campaigner in the Carlisle/Taylor (Ian or Jason!) mould to fire people up then we might even have a chance of getting out of this mess!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 16:56:59 pm
Nothing wrong with a show of passion and I would expect it was "that why you don't need a new striker" . Well done revs and if you are off , good luck. Interesting to see him chatting with the Southend fans after the final whistle, maybe he's off there?


Any one know why the young fella in the top of the west was dragged out? See him at every game I go home and away and doesn't strike me as a trouble maker.

He played for Southend previously, he will end up league 2 I'd imagine


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2487 on January 06, 2018, 16:58:24 pm
Nothing wrong with a show of passion and I would expect it was "that why you don't need a new striker" . Well done revs and if you are off , good luck. Interesting to see him chatting with the Southend fans after the final whistle, maybe he's off there?


Any one know why the young fella in the top of the west was dragged out? See him at every game I go home and away and doesn't strike me as a trouble maker.

A ridiculous situation to throw that lad out. The stewards said it was for "banging the seat" and he's been told not to before. The FBI fella said it's a ridiculous decision to kick him out.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: #Frank on January 06, 2018, 17:08:03 pm
A ridiculous situation to throw that lad out. The stewards said it was for "banging the seat" and he's been told not to before. The FBI fella said it's a ridiculous decision to kick him out.

Very sad if that was the case. I felt there was absolutely no need the manhandle the lad in the fashion that I witnessed.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: #Frank on January 06, 2018, 17:11:21 pm
He played for Southend previously, he will end up league 2 I'd imagine

Thank's. I didn't know that. I agree that he will end up in L2 , probably in a team making a push for promotion like Mansfield, Lincoln or Exeter.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: #Frank on January 06, 2018, 17:13:57 pm
I think I'm a little bit in love with Berto after his 30 minute cameo. That bit of skill at the start of his run that led to Rev''s goal was outrageous!



Very like Ricky Holmes I thought with that drop of the shoulder.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 06, 2018, 17:17:28 pm
A game of two halves they say....

First half was what we have become used to, just slightly worse.

Second half we worked harder and once Long won the pen we looked like a pretty decent side. Defensively Poole was fantastic today, won loads in the air against bigger players and a good mix of hoofing it and trying to play out. Facey had a great debut, really composed other than a few nervy moments playing back to Ingram. Buchs was decent today, Ash his usual self apart from the ten minutes after the pen was given against him where he lost it.

Sammy Hoskins had a great game out wide, Foley was steady on the other side. Crooks had a great second half, Grimes delivery was vastly improved but he still loses the ball too much for me. Good to see him being vocal with those around him though.

JJ won free kicks and headers galore and got a nice re-direct for his goal. Long was brilliant today, hassled well and his movement superb with and without the ball. Deserved a goal.

Hildeberto missed a gaping open goal after coming on to a big fanfare then didn't touch the ball for twenty minutes. The next time he did he beat a man on the half way line to charge forward on the break and set up Revs for a tidy finish. Will certainly be one to make things happen I think.

Happy as we have a massive three points, hope we see more of the second half flowing football than the first half hoofball.

All pretty much spot on......a few too many "greats" perhaps!! More "goods" than "greats" and more of the performance that this players should be producing week in week out.

Hilda looks an exciting prospect from his little cameo......when the pitch is flat and good he should start as he'd do some damage running with the ball...not so easy on some of the cabbage patch pitches that we see in the winter. They may nullify his end product somewhat.
Facey looked decent and composed apart from a weak back header then a strong back header past Ingram!! Once he gets up to speed with everyone he'll be a vast improvement on Moponey.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 06, 2018, 17:19:31 pm
Facey looked very good. Plenty of composure.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 06, 2018, 17:37:19 pm
Very decent second half after a decidedly sloppy first. Facey I thought had a very steady game rather than outstanding but it was the substitution that let Hilda on that fully galvanised the Cobblers where he quite easily should have scored with his first two touches. The 3rd goal which he created with sublime skill, purposeful running and a deft pass to Revell certainly brought back memories of Ricky H. What I can't understand was the total transformation after our 2nd goal went in, I'm sure most of it is down to confidence but Matt Crooks remains a huge enigma. First half we was practically useless, couldn't tackle without giving away a foul, was 2nd to all 50/50s, and looked pretty disinterested while the second half he was like a different player.

JFH still needs to get the balance right between workhorses and flair players and it is a mystery to me how Shaun McWilliams was overlooked after his MOM display against Wigan.

Overall an encouraging display, but far harder tests to come starting next week at Bradford.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: tcobb on January 06, 2018, 18:16:37 pm
Excellent result, sign a decent forward next week now and we might stand a chance


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: just.reading on January 06, 2018, 18:22:16 pm
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/northampton-town/11198392/northampton-3-1-southend

There's was def a pen. Ours not so much!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 06, 2018, 18:32:49 pm
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/northampton-town/11198392/northampton-3-1-southend

There's was def a pen. Ours not so much!

I don't think either was......however I can see why they were given!! Taylors head then turning his body made it look like he barged into their player....well within the area by the way!!

As for ours...Long jumped up into their player and then went down...........the lino furiously flagging for what was the only definite foul of the three on O'Toole!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Manwork04 on January 06, 2018, 19:30:00 pm
It's a shame but Revs is off, he looked lean and hungry today.
If you read this Alex thanks for everything you always gave 100% for NTFC and scored some great goals, all the best and good luck for the future.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: TownOwl on January 06, 2018, 19:45:32 pm
I'm not so sure Revs is off. Why would he have been on the bench, let alone brought on.

I didn't think Facey was all that, but for the first game in a year, I'll be happy if he improves.

Grimes started awful again, that shocking free kick was worse than last week, but fair play he turned it around.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 20:02:35 pm
I'm not so sure Revs is off. Why would he have been on the bench, let alone brought on.

I didn't think Facey was all that, but for the first game in a year, I'll be happy if he improves.

Grimes started awful again, that shocking free kick was worse than last week, but fair play he turned it around.

Revs is gone get over it


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2018, 20:26:38 pm
Great second half in comparison with the first which was dull and listless.Grimes was pretty awful and maybe lucky to start next Saturday.  Facey never really shone first half apart from misplaced back headers :) . Southend looked neat and tidy, but had one or two defensive lapses and not a lot up front. Hope upon hope we don't go for Cox who was deservedly subbed.
Second half was much better ; Facey was classy and his tackles well timed. How wrong was I doubting JFH judgement in bringing in a 22yr with out a great deal of experience in the EFL. Grimes confidently put his penalty away and after that Southend disappeared from the game - well more or less! As for the penalty's their one was not a penalty, ours was! Still I probably would say that! Both Facey and Crooks got better as the game wore on. Some of Crooks inter passing was good too. Poole also improved or got more confident. Ingram not a great deal to do but his kicking is sub Championship standard. Hoskins ran around a lot and would say depending who comes in will do well to retain his place in the side. I really enjoyed the last few minutes of the game; with Berto's little run aided by his sublime feint on their player running straight at their defence who retreated like the biblical Red Sea finished with a cool pass to Revell who took his time and placed his shot into the far corner. Gripping stuff and good composure by Revell...if only he could have shown that expertise earlier in the season!
Great move to grant Facey MOM, good for his confidence. Pretty glad to see he has natural ability and is calm and collected on the ball. Hats off to JFH and poke in the eye for all (incl me)those who doubted his judgement.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2018, 20:29:46 pm
All pretty much spot on......a few too many "greats" perhaps!! More "goods" than "greats" and more of the performance that this players should be producing week in week out.

Hilda looks an exciting prospect from his little cameo......when the pitch is flat and good he should start as he'd do some damage running with the ball...not so easy on some of the cabbage patch pitches that we see in the winter. They may nullify his end product somewhat.
Facey looked decent and composed apart from a weak back header then a strong back header past Ingram!! Once he gets up to speed with everyone he'll be a vast improvement on Moponey.

Its Berto GP its Berto!

ps I thought Berto was carrying a bit of "extra" in backside quarters! ...Yes/No


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2995 on January 06, 2018, 20:41:29 pm
I firstly couldn’t believe McWilliams was dropped after being the outstanding player on Monday - that’s JFH for you .
Having said that , not a single player had a poor game today and we worked very hard for the result .
We looked a threat throughout and Long was outstanding today .
The new boys had good starts , but their influence has been over egged on here . Hilda , after all missed a sitter .
I thought the Revs incident was embarrassing .
The reason he wasn’t selected was because he was playing poorly , that’s the top and bottom of it .
Very happy with today’s performance though and encouraging for the rest of the season .


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: #Frank on January 06, 2018, 20:44:41 pm
Its Berto GP its Berto!

ps I thought Berto was carrying a bit of "extra" in backside quarters! ...Yes/No

Not as much as Cox for them.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2018, 20:46:58 pm
Great second half in comparison with the first which was dull and listless.Grimes was pretty awful and maybe lucky to start next Saturday.  Facey never really shone first half apart from misplaced back headers :) . Southend looked neat and tidy, but had one or two defensive lapses and not a lot up front. Hope upon hope we don't go for Cox who was deservedly subbed.
Second half was much better ; Facey was classy and his tackles well timed. How wrong was I doubting JFH judgement in bringing in a 22yr with out a great deal of experience in the EFL. Grimes confidently put his penalty away and after that Southend disappeared from the game - well more or less! As for the penalty's their one was not a penalty, ours was! Still I probably would say that! Both Facey and Crooks got better as the game wore on. Some of Crooks inter passing was good too. Poole also improved or got more confident. Ingram not a great deal to do but his kicking is sub Championship standard. Hoskins ran around a lot and would say depending who comes in will do well to retain his place in the side. I really enjoyed the last few minutes of the game; with Berto's little run aided by his sublime feint on their player running straight at their defence who retreated like the biblical Red Sea finished with a cool pass to Revell who took his time and placed his shot into the far corner. Gripping stuff and good composure by Revell...if only he could have shown that expertise earlier in the season!
Great move to grant Facey MOM, good for his confidence. Pretty glad to see he has natural ability and is calm and collected on the ball. Hats off to JFH and poke in the eye for all (incl me)thwose who doubted his judgement.

Whilst we are correct to be posative, let's not get to carried away!

From the highlights southend looked shocking, especially 2nd half.  Bigger tests to come


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: ceebee2 on January 06, 2018, 21:09:24 pm
I'm surprised no-one else has mentioned this, but I definitely think that for once we took note of the wind direction and strength at pitch level - Dean Austin definitely called Buchanan over to talk to him immediately before the toss which he then won and turned us around so we were playing into the wind in the first half (not a great performance) and had it at our backs in the second (much better).

Did anyone else spot the conversation?

Having watched many other games at Sixfields over the years when we don't play the wind (normally coming from the other end) very well, this was a refreshing change and might put Deano in line for my Man of the Match vote!! 


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 21:11:59 pm
To be fair after watching the highlights I reckon the ball bobbled just as berto hit the ball - he still should have scored mind!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: TownOwl on January 06, 2018, 21:12:26 pm
Southend were shocking. Look at that first goal. Looked like ones we concede. Think they'll struggle to stay up on that showing. Their fans were showing it too. Booing subs, you don't know what you're doing, we've had a shot, how sh1t must you be, we've scored a goal etc. And what was the other one? Something like you're not all that, we're just @%$#*

And Cox, wow he's not the player he was when he played for us let alone at West Brom in the Prem. Wouldn't fancy him in our team anymore.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 06, 2018, 21:19:59 pm
Southend were shocking. Look at that first goal. Looked like ones we concede. Think they'll struggle to stay up on that showing. Their fans were showing it too. Booing subs, you don't know what you're doing, we've had a shot, how sh1t must you be, we've scored a goal etc. And what was the other one? Something like you're not all that, we're just @%$#*

And Cox, wow he's not the player he was when he played for us let alone at West Brom in the Prem. Wouldn't fancy him in our team anymore.

Brown was looking at the Southend fans and shaking his head.  I'd have felt sorry for him if he wasn't such a nob.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2018, 21:30:22 pm
Southend were pretty awful but they were missing several key men, plus if they do get rid of Brown they'll probably see an upturn in results. They're also going to get around £700,000 when the transfer of their best player Ryan Leonard to Sheffield united goes through.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Grove on January 07, 2018, 09:24:57 am
I love the Cobblers fans, I'm pretty negative , glass half empty type but Christ some of you ! our lads deserve a lot of credit for yesterday, in a match we desperately had to win, each time we get a result its because the other team were sh!t aparrently, we did struggle 1st half all 4's id say with one or 2 exceptions, but all 8's in the second half. Berto missed a sitter ? maybe , but that was his 1st touch for the club, perhaps a little nervous don't you think .All these players that are f@cking useless according to some came alive yesterday , confidence is a massive thing and can be the difference between relegation and promotion , with the same players . One or 2 more additions , and we will be fine, and pushing for play offs next season.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Fred_NTFC on January 07, 2018, 09:35:20 am
To be fair to the referee those penalty calls are still pretty hard to work out on the highlights so could have gone either way really, I don't think Taylor does get his head to the ball first so that's probably correct, then Long definitely gets impeded but it's fairly accidental as he pretty much runs into the player, could easily have been given as an indirect free-kick. Don't envy their job some times.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 07, 2018, 09:39:28 am
Peter Walton was an excellent summariser on Radio Numpty yesterday. He showed so much love and passion for the club. I hope he gets another go. 


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 07, 2018, 09:58:01 am
Much needed win and Southend's slide down the table continue which may help us. I thought our midfield collectively was awful in the first half with Southend winning every second ball and if they were a better side we would have been punished.  The second half saw a much better performance and we started to pass the ball well and create chances. 

Facey had a solid game after a nervous start.  Perhaps too early to comment but he looks to be a better defender than Moloney who always seems to me to stand too far off his wide man. Poole was also excellent at the back.  Pereira looks like one who is going to sell more seats for home games. 



Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2018, 11:04:06 am
Excellent result, sign a decent forward next week now and we might stand a chance

Would have thought that another wide player, Central defender (sell  Pierre), Keep Revell, but buy better! Pay Rico off? Perhaps replacement  for Grimes?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 07, 2018, 12:01:35 pm
Would have thought that another wide player, Central defender (sell  Pierre), Keep Revell, but buy better! Pay Rico off? Perhaps replacement  for Grimes?

Sell Pierre and let Grimes go? Who do you think we are?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: southofthecounty on January 07, 2018, 12:21:06 pm
With our third goal,  how refreshing it was to see an actual Cobblers player having the audacity to run at a defence. We have have seen us concede to those types of runs this season so often, it was great to see the boot on the other foot for a change.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: rachelshubby on January 07, 2018, 12:25:43 pm
Southend didn't look like a great team yesterday.  We gave them too much respect after the equalising goal but we blew them away in the second half.  With better finishing, the game would have been over long before the end.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 07, 2018, 13:55:20 pm
Peter Walton was an excellent summariser on Radio Numpty yesterday. He showed so much love and passion for the club. I hope he gets another go. 

What was his view on the penalties?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2018, 14:52:30 pm
On the opposition, I did like their 16 Yearwood. 17 years old, presses hard and caught Grimes in possession a few times before being withdrawn to the annoyance of the Southend fans. Thought he would have been one of their key players rather than a youngster and the style of centre mid were lacking.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 07, 2018, 15:50:33 pm
I agree with this, I assumed he must have been a Premiership loanee. Mind you we have a decent youngster in McWilliams just a pity JFH doesn't play him more often.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Rach on January 07, 2018, 18:26:02 pm
The most enjoyable game so far of the season.
Long may it continue....
Pereira 😍


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: OCoole on January 07, 2018, 19:33:21 pm
Would have thought that another wide player, Central defender (sell  Pierre), Keep Revell, but buy better! Pay Rico off? Perhaps replacement  for Grimes?

You're advocating that we lose Pierre and Grimes but keep hold of Revell, who up until yesterday hadn't scored in 12 league appearances?

Pierre may not have had the best start to his town career but you can see from his raw attributes that there is a quality centre back in there, much like how you could with Rod McDonald. To not rate Grimes because of a few sub-par performances is short-sighted as clearly he's the best technical midfielder we've had in many years - against Oxford he was absolutely taking the piss out of the opposition. No doubt you'd replace him with a 'tough-tackling' midfielder a la Jason Taylor.

Good thing you're not a football scout eh?  ::)





Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2018, 22:06:27 pm
You're advocating that we lose Pierre and Grimes but keep hold of Revell, who up until yesterday hadn't scored in 12 league appearances?

Pierre may not have had the best start to his town career but you can see from his raw attributes that there is a quality centre back in there, much like how you could with Rod McDonald. To not rate Grimes because of a few sub-par performances is short-sighted as clearly he's the best technical midfielder we've had in many years - against Oxford he was absolutely taking the **** out of the opposition. No doubt you'd replace him with a 'tough-tackling' midfielder a la Jason Taylor.

Good thing you're not a football scout eh?  ::)

 

 Like wise and still think that Grimes is not good enough for our cause! Two good games in 20+!




Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2487 on January 07, 2018, 22:08:32 pm
Grimes is probably one of the most talented footballers we've had.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2018, 22:10:24 pm
Hasselbaink is a big fan of Pierre aswell based on his interview after the injury.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2018, 22:12:25 pm
Grimes is probably one of the most talented footballers we've had.

He would be if he was just a little more consistent!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2487 on January 07, 2018, 22:15:10 pm
He would be if he was just a little more consistent!

Think that can be put down to the team as a whole


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2018, 22:22:57 pm
Think that can be put down to the team as a whole


Really? Sweeping generalisation!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2487 on January 07, 2018, 22:23:57 pm


Really? Sweeping generalisation!

Yeah, you're right. They've been consistent.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2018, 22:26:21 pm
Yeah, you're right. They've been consistent.

 Explain?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: southofthecounty on January 08, 2018, 06:34:47 am
I find Grimes really frustrating. He can pick a pass of real quality one moment, and the next give the ball away whilst under no pressure at all. Similarly his free kicks can either be devastatingly accurate, or of such poor quality you wouldn't bet on him hitting the skip at half time. 


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2995 on January 08, 2018, 07:23:13 am
Like wise and still think that Grimes is not good enough for our cause! Two good games in 20+!



Absolute rubbish .
Grimes has had some off games for us recently but has been a shining light for much of the season .
There’s a reason why he is the only midfield player JFH has constantly picked.
Grimes is getting unfair treatment on here when his counterparts have been below average .
Crooks is nowhere near the player we saw playing for Accrington and I can’t remember Foley doing anything seriously influential in a game . Only JJOT and McWilliams from the midfield have performed as consistently as Grimes .


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 08, 2018, 08:19:49 am
Grimes is a serious player.

If we can get a ball winning midfielder to do the ugly stuff alongside him, then he will flourish.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: meccanostand on January 08, 2018, 08:35:05 am
Grimes is a serious player.

If we can get a ball winning midfielder to do the ugly stuff alongside him, then he will flourish.

Clearly has the talent.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Wolvo on January 08, 2018, 08:43:35 am
Grimes is a serious player.

If we can get a ball winning midfielder to do the ugly stuff alongside him, then he will flourish.

Agreed. He never shy's away from the ball. Even when everyone else is disappointing, he's dropping deep and asking for the ball trying to make things tick in the middle of the park.

If we had OPTA stats at this level, you'd see he'd be the player with the most touches/most passes/most possession every single game. If Grimes was our player, and Crooks was the loanee... We'd be issuing the blame towards Crooks in my opinion. Absolutely quality player, and seems like a vastly upgraded League One version of Byrom.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: bri77 on January 08, 2018, 09:40:28 am
Where on earth did that second half performance come from?

At half time I was feeling as despondent as most of the season then we actually started playing football and should have scored more than we did, I'm hoping it was us being good rather than Southend being poor (although they were crap) which might start to give me some survival hope/


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Charlatan on January 08, 2018, 11:43:45 am
Grimes is a serious player.

If we can get a ball winning midfielder to do the ugly stuff alongside him, then he will flourish.
I agree. IMO i'd play Foley in middle with him, Jimmy keeps swapping Foley left/right side midfield. I'd like to see him alongside Grimes, Foley doesn't mind a tackle + he's got a good work ethic. I think by playing him more central, we could get a bit more out of Grimes.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2487 on January 08, 2018, 11:45:20 am
I agree. IMO i'd play Foley in middle with him, Jimmy keeps swapping Foley left/right side midfield. I'd like to see him alongside Grimes, Foley doesn't mind a tackle + he's got a good work ethic. I think by playing him more central, we could get a bit more out of Grimes.

It's a real difficult one to get the make up of the midfield correct, we almost have too many options.

Personally I want to see Crooks kept in the middle as he looks much much better there than when stuck out wide.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 08, 2018, 11:52:39 am
Rubbish first half, very decent 2nd half.

I will say though that Southend were RUBBISH with a capital R. Id argue that they were the worst side on the day I've seen us play in the league this season.

So whilst we could and should have scored at least 1 or 2 more goals and that the one we conceded was controversial, its hard to say whether we would have looked half as good if we'd been playing a side on form and with confidence. They didn't even seem to realise that Efan Elad's love child had come on for us, the space they gave him was absolutely ridiculous!

Basing it all on 'you can only beat whats put in front of you' then an excellent day at the office. But Im being a little cautious in my assessment because of the poor opposition. Time will tell when we pitch up at Bradford and the following week against MK.

The two new lads bedded in well and our new winger met my expectations…which were VERY high beforehand. IF we manage to secure another attacking option of such quality, we will stay up comfortably. If we don't I reckon it will be touch and go, but that lad gives us cause for optimism!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Gaston on January 08, 2018, 11:53:01 am
Fantastic result!

Berto was a breath of fresh air, Facey is what we need in both full back positions and JJOT displaying all the qualities that we want from our star man.

I feared the worse for Grimes following a poor performance against Wigan and several others. One of his first free kicks hit the first man, it was just a side pass, and the groans and moans were loud. However, what a turn around! Long may it continue in our favour. I still think he is a luxury and I have been surprised that he is one of the few players that has kept his place and the same position in the team.



Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 08, 2018, 11:55:50 am
Absolute rubbish .
Grimes has had some off games for us recently but has been a shining light for much of the season .
There’s a reason why he is the only midfield player JFH has constantly picked.
Grimes is getting unfair treatment on here when his counterparts have been below average .
Crooks is nowhere near the player we saw playing for Accrington and I can’t remember Foley doing anything seriously influential in a game . Only JJOT and McWilliams from the midfield have performed as consistently as Grimes .

Because he signed him and none of the others?

If I had a quid for every 10-15 yard pass Grimes needlessly played straight to an opposing player id have a few quid by now…


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Another Pedj on January 08, 2018, 12:00:46 pm
I agree. IMO i'd play Foley in middle with him, Jimmy keeps swapping Foley left/right side midfield. I'd like to see him alongside Grimes, Foley doesn't mind a tackle + he's got a good work ethic. I think by playing him more central, we could get a bit more out of Grimes.

I thought Crooks in central midfield was our best player 2nd half. Needs to be given a run there in his ideal position.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Irchy cob on January 08, 2018, 12:01:58 pm
Because he signed him and none of the others?

If I had a quid for every 10-15 yard pass Grimes needlessly played straight to an opposing player id have a few quid by now…

JED brought grimes in back in August.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2235 on January 08, 2018, 12:41:02 pm
I agree. IMO i'd play Foley in middle with him, Jimmy keeps swapping Foley left/right side midfield. I'd like to see him alongside Grimes, Foley doesn't mind a tackle + he's got a good work ethic. I think by playing him more central, we could get a bit more out of Grimes.
Play Foley in his preferred position? A bit radical for Jimmy, he even started Bert on the left!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Charlatan on January 08, 2018, 13:47:27 pm
Play Foley in his preferred position? A bit radical for Jimmy, he even started Bert on the left!
Oops didn't think of that  :)


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2018, 14:50:08 pm
I thought Crooks in central midfield was our best player 2nd half. Needs to be given a run there in his ideal position.

I thought so too!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2995 on January 08, 2018, 16:35:14 pm
Because he signed him and none of the others?

If I had a quid for every 10-15 yard pass Grimes needlessly played straight to an opposing player id have a few quid by now…
Errr except he didn’t sign him .
And I disagree about giving the ball away - I think he makes himself available and looks for the pass most of the time .
Having said that , I would like to see him drive further forward but we are a poor team in that division and so opportunity is limited .
The alternative is to play JJOT in that position which I think he is better suited to .


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Manwork04 on January 08, 2018, 16:42:41 pm
Grimes or Crooks?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest2539 on January 08, 2018, 16:50:28 pm
Grimes or Crooks?
BOTH!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest1269 on January 08, 2018, 18:14:56 pm
Grimes or Crooks?

Difficult to chose - Grimes flatters to deceive sometimes showing both class and graft but other times I get the distinct impression he thinks he is too good to be playing at our level. On balance (and perhaps spoiled by Matt Taylor) I think his dead ball delivery is decidedly average. Crooks on the other hand probably less skillful and occasionally headless chicken stuff but has physical presence and up for a fight - given where we are (in the trenches and still in the s***) I would choose Crooks.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: TownOwl on January 08, 2018, 20:19:36 pm
I thought Crooks looked better in that almost No 10 role when JFH first came in. He scored like 3 in 3 or something too. He hasn't played there since. JJOT needs to be in midfield for me, but I understand we need someone to support Long before JFH will consider that. With someone like JJOT alongside, I think Grimes will do better. So for me it's a question of McWilliams or Grimes alongside JJOT.

And I've had enough of Grimes on set pieces now. Surely we have someone better? Maybe Berto can be our man?


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2018, 22:38:44 pm

Personally I want to see Crooks kept in the middle as he looks much much better there than when stuck out wide.

That makes sense ....keep it up ;)


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2018, 22:54:18 pm
Absolute rubbish .
Grimes has had some off games for us recently but has been a shining light for much of the season .
There’s a reason why he is the only midfield player JFH has constantly picked.
Grimes is getting unfair treatment on here when his counterparts have been below average .
Crooks is nowhere near the player we saw playing for Accrington and I can’t remember Foley doing anything seriously influential in a game . Only JJOT and McWilliams from the midfield have performed as consistently as Grimes .

If you had witnessed some of Grimes recent away display's then I doubt you would be quite so vociferous. One can only assume is that you have let personal 'feelings' jeopardize your opinion. If Grimes can put together 3 or 4 games of relatively modest consistency then fine. The facts are is that he has had just two fine games so far this season - its not good enough for a £1million plus player. Perhaps this explains why he has failed at championship level? Its all very well blaming the team for being inept etc but a £million plus player should do a lot better in L1. At the moment Grimes is more often than not a luxury in our current circumstances even when compared with Crooks and that's saying something! Still am sure Bradford will be a reasonably tough test for him - if he disappears in this game ...forget him ; send him back!

ps While I am at it Pierre has been a bit of a disappointment at L1 level, goodish in some games, but is ponderously slow and does not exhibit a great deal of football ability. From what I understand he was effective in L2 (ask Coolie), we really need a centre back at the moment with a bit more about them. Frankly would sell him and look for better. Should we end up in L2 then he may well then be an asset ::)


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Macc Cobbler on January 08, 2018, 23:13:31 pm
It will be interesting to see if Jack Bridge comes into the team, and if so who he will replace.

JJOT has to be the first name on the team sheet.

On  the back of the second half performance Crooks deserves to keep his place - looked class.

I think Foley improves game by game.

Do we play Bert on the right in place of Hoskins, or keep him as an impact sub ?

And where does this leave Grimes ? 


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 09, 2018, 06:01:28 am
One thing I don't buy into is the 'excuse' that a player is playing crap because he's in a rubbish team. I've seen a lot of people claim Grimes would be much better if he had better players, harder players, surrounding him. Well surely thats the case in every team and for every single player out there?!

Bradly Johnson wasn't bad in a poor side for us and earned a big money move. Steve Brown was superb when we were bottom of the 4th division, as was Micky Bell. Neither of those two were particularly 'robust' players (especially Bell!), more artists than grafters Id argue. Any player in the football league has to be able to look after himself ffs!

And then theres Waters. 16 goals for a rubbish team in league 2 last season. And I don't care where he plays for us, has played…he simply doesn't look capable at this moment in time of replicating such form or even getting close to doing so.

Grimes is what he is. I thought he was superb 2nd half on Saturday and was my overall man of the match, Im acutely aware that no one else shares that view. But I felt he influenced the result more so than anyone else. Against Wigan he was useless. And he's been poor more times than not in recent times. He started off very well for us though so its clearly a form thing.

The key component for our team is John Joe. When he plays the other lads get a bit more time on the ball which makes it easier for them. But lets not forget at the start of the season when Grimes looked very good on a consistent basis JJ wasn't in the team. So he has it in him. Consistency is the issue, thats why he's with us and not higher up the ladder!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: Saint Cobbler on January 09, 2018, 11:49:56 am
It will be interesting to see if Jack Bridge comes into the team, and if so who he will replace.

JJOT has to be the first name on the team sheet.

On  the back of the second half performance Crooks deserves to keep his place - looked class.

I think Foley improves game by game.

Do we play Bert on the right in place of Hoskins, or keep him as an impact sub ?

And where does this leave Grimes ? 

I think Jack Bridge will be another odd signing who doesn't get a game.


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Janes
Post by: everbrite on January 09, 2018, 11:57:56 am
See my team posted earlier, I would only play one of Crooks/Grimes in the central "advanced" role with McWilliams next to JJ in a 4-2-3-1.

My temptation would be to send Grimes back and tell Crooks to man up and show the form that made us sign him, but don't think we have room for both in our side. Crooks does add some height to the forward area and he is our player so should be bothered about where we end up.


Told you Boot & Shoe Grimes too inconsistent!


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Janes
Post by: guest2995 on January 09, 2018, 12:04:07 pm
Told you Boot & Shoe Grimes too inconsistent!
Football is a game of opinion and quite a few people do not agree with yours with regards to Grimes .
He is a good player .


Title: Re: Southend United (H) 2pm 6th Jan
Post by: guest3023 on January 09, 2018, 12:19:14 pm
If you had witnessed some of Grimes recent away display's then I doubt you would be quite so vociferous. One can only assume is that you have let personal 'feelings' jeopardize your opinion. If Grimes can put together 3 or 4 games of relatively modest consistency then fine. The facts are is that he has had just two fine games so far this season - its not good enough for a £1million plus player. Perhaps this explains why he has failed at championship level? Its all very well blaming the team for being inept etc but a £million plus player should do a lot better in L1. At the moment Grimes is more often than not a luxury in our current circumstances even when compared with Crooks and that's saying something! Still am sure Bradford will be a reasonably tough test for him - if he disappears in this game ...forget him ; send him back!

ps While I am at it Pierre has been a bit of a disappointment at L1 level, goodish in some games, but is ponderously slow and does not exhibit a great deal of football ability. From what I understand he was effective in L2 (ask Coolie), we really need a centre back at the moment with a bit more about them. Frankly would sell him and look for better. Should we end up in L2 then he may well then be an asset ::)

You make it sound like Cobblers paid the £1m for him! He's on loan so what he was bought for is irrelevant. FWIW I don't disagree that he is not a £1m player and I have my doubts as to whether he could do well at Championship level.  However I do believe he is more than good enough for this level, that his performances, though inconsistent, have still proved an asset this season and I for one would be disappointed to see him sent back.

As regards Pierre, I had high hopes but he hasn't performed as well as I had expected. I still like him as a player however and if he could add more composure in his distribution then he can be a very good player at this level.