The Hotel End

The Hotel End => Cobblers Corner => Topic started by: Dr Feelgood on January 14, 2018, 16:04:17 pm



Title: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 14, 2018, 16:04:17 pm
Same again please Jimbo.

Predicting a 2-0 win for us

A win should hopefully see us out the drop zone..


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 14, 2018, 17:01:38 pm
The total contempt Cobblers fans have for this franchise organisation (NOT a proper football club) will add numbers to the home crowd to give 90 minutes of quality passion and support to our team!!!

Home win, 2-0.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2487 on January 14, 2018, 17:04:19 pm
Midday, pub, beers, Cobblers 7-0.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 14, 2018, 17:17:34 pm
Massive game, a real six pointer. Wouldn’t it be great to beat them and send them on their way to relegation.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 14, 2018, 17:31:40 pm
Proper building ourselves up for a fall😂
But...for the first time this season we must be hot favourites to win and it being a local derby will fire up both sides,  players/fans alike so I would take a scappy 1_0 win.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2018, 17:38:01 pm
Proper building ourselves up for a fall😂
But...for the first time this season we must be hot favourites to win and it being a local derby will fire up both sides,  players/fans alike so I would take a scappy 1_0 win.


Quite right Beds to warn of exuberant over confidence!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 15, 2018, 11:59:49 am
I've had zero confidence for the last few matches, I'm now worried I'm set up for a fall as am looking forward to a game for the first time in a while.

Sending them into the drop zone would be bloody amazing, am desperate to see their stadium in league 2, imagine their crowds  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on January 15, 2018, 12:10:45 pm
Proper building ourselves up for a fall
But...for the first time this season we must be hot favourites to win and it being a local derby will fire up both sides,  players/fans alike so I would take a scappy 1_0 win.


I don't think this is being negative and have seen it many time when expectation is raised (beat MK and I guarantee talk of a play off spot will start) - however I've seen enough class and increase in effort and passion in the last 2 games to suggest unless complacency gets in the way we are easily capable of beating any team in the lower half of this division.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: alstare on January 15, 2018, 13:42:13 pm
Decent attendance for this one?  MK should bring a few and home support will be swelled after a couple of decent results


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 15, 2018, 13:43:32 pm
Decent attendance for this one?  MK should bring a few and home support will be swelled after a couple of decent results

What would you consider a few for MK?

I'm not expecting them to bring more than about 700


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 15, 2018, 13:50:09 pm
This has to be a 7000+ gate, surely MK will spill into the East Stand, it’s a massive game for them also.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: alstare on January 15, 2018, 13:52:17 pm
What would you consider a few for MK?

I'm not expecting them to bring more than about 700

You are probably right.  I was thinking they may sell out their 950 (or whatever) but looking at their results, perhaps not


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 15, 2018, 13:59:14 pm
They didn't sell out last season so why would they get close now?

When things are going badly for a plastic team they will lose fans quicker than an 'established' club. All the fans that started going with their promotions from league 2 and league 1 will stop going much quicker than a seasoned fan when it's not going well.

Stadium MK in league 2 would be the best thing ever. Combine that with Us and the Real Dons surviving with Luton getting promoted, they would have nothing to look forward to next season.

The sooner they fold the better, and if they really think proper football fans have less animosity towards them over the years they are deluded. #Scumoffootball #plastic #franchise

 


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 15, 2018, 14:14:44 pm
What would you consider a few for MK?

I'm not expecting them to bring more than about 700
Surely their total will depend on how many FREE tickets they are given, as per their home matches!!!!!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2487 on January 15, 2018, 14:15:39 pm
Surely they will bring 1250? Surely?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2018, 14:17:40 pm
I don't think this is being negative and have seen it many time when expectation is raised (beat MK and I guarantee talk of a play off spot will start) - however I've seen enough class and increase in effort and passion in the last 2 games to suggest unless complacency gets in the way we are easily capable of beating any team in the lower half of this division.

If MK are managed well they will be up for this game - they wont want to be beaten by us and more important end up in the bottom 4. Very hard game to win.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2018, 14:22:23 pm
They didn't sell out last season so why would they get close now?


In fairness, the game last season was a noon kick off on a Sunday with live Sky TV coverage.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Solar on January 15, 2018, 14:32:53 pm
They didn't sell out last season so why would they get close now?

When things are going badly for a plastic team they will lose fans quicker than an 'established' club. All the fans that started going with their promotions from league 2 and league 1 will stop going much quicker than a seasoned fan when it's not going well.

Stadium MK in league 2 would be the best thing ever. Combine that with Us and the Real Dons surviving with Luton getting promoted, they would have nothing to look forward to next season.

The sooner they fold the better, and if they really think proper football fans have less animosity towards them over the years they are deluded. #Scumoffootball #plastic #franchise

 

Stadium:MK was in League 2 in 07/08 Brian.

It was the best thing ever too.....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 15, 2018, 14:45:49 pm
The total contempt Cobblers fans have for this franchise organisation (NOT a proper football club) will add numbers to the home crowd to give 90 minutes of quality passion and support to our team!!!

Home win, 2-0.
I’m sure supporters everywhere treat this vile organisation (I refuse to call them a football club) with the same contempt. It’s not the fault of the people that follow them, although I genuinely would find it impossible to support this outfit if I was a local. The blame for this lays squarely with the football league for endorsing this outrage in the first place l. I think it’s the role of every true football fan to never accept this outfit as a club. I personally yearned for the day when Wimbledon got back in the football league. Wimbledon beating them in the league which happened at the back end of last season must have been a day to savour. Not sure how I would have felt if I was an AFC supporter that day. All that’s needed now is for MK to get relegated out of the league and along with AFCs new ground which apparently is a quarter of a mile from the old ground, some of this wrong will have been put right. Someone ran a thread on here sometime ago about who you would support if there was no Cobblers. AFC Wimbledon are my other team, I think their story of overcoming adversity is one of the best in english football. As for MK, say no more, hope we give them a damn good thrashing. Sorry about yet another self righteous rant Wrigley, but these chaps have got my gander up.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2235 on January 15, 2018, 15:29:48 pm
Good to hear you can still get it up!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 15, 2018, 17:05:57 pm
I completely dispise this lot, In a different way to boro, they are plastic in every way and nothing would give me more pleasure than to see us help them to relegation safe in the knowledge that AFC stay up.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 15, 2018, 17:06:27 pm
Hope they sell out there allocation and all go home stunned when Berto (number 28 plastic fans) comes off the bench and gets a hat trick in a 5-0 win.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 15, 2018, 18:21:56 pm
I’m sure supporters everywhere treat this vile organisation (I refuse to call them a football club) with the same contempt. It’s not the fault of the people that follow them, although I genuinely would find it impossible to support this outfit if I was a local. The blame for this lays squarely with the football league for endorsing this outrage in the first place l. I think it’s the role of every true football fan to never accept this outfit as a club. I personally yearned for the day when Wimbledon got back in the football league. Wimbledon beating them in the league which happened at the back end of last season must have been a day to savour. Not sure how I would have felt if I was an AFC supporter that day. All that’s needed now is for MK to get relegated out of the league and along with AFCs new ground which apparently is a quarter of a mile from the old ground, some of this wrong will have been put right. Someone ran a thread on here sometime ago about who you would support if there was no Cobblers. AFC Wimbledon are my other team, I think their story of overcoming adversity is one of the best in english football. As for MK, say no more, hope we give them a damn good thrashing. Sorry about yet another self righteous rant Wrigley, but these chaps have got my gander up.

Rant away, my friend! I've had a few myself on the very same topic....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 15, 2018, 18:49:05 pm
Mk 'mongs' ummm and in this day and age.
What if someone started a peterboro flids or oxford spaz's or Coventry cripples?
Just a thought.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2677 on January 15, 2018, 19:00:54 pm
Mk 'mongs' ummm and in this day and age.
What if someone started a peterboro flids or oxford spaz's or Coventry cripples?
Just a thought.
No problem with that last one as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 15, 2018, 19:27:28 pm
It'll be very interesting to see how we line up for this - after such a great team performance at Bradford common sense would say same again but having turnbull at left back for a home game might be a bit negative. If we bring bunney in I guess he will slot in as a much more attacking lb but then which of Poole or turnbull gives way - it wouldn't be particularly fair on either of them. Then there's Hoskins/foley in the wide attacking positions ahead of pereira - neither of them deserves to lose their place but berto's match fitness isn't going to improve with 5 minutes here and there. It's nice to have options all of a sudden after having none not long ago.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 15, 2018, 19:49:14 pm
Mk 'mongs' ummm and in this day and age.
What if someone started a peterboro flids or oxford spaz's or Coventry cripples?
Just a thought.

Gillingham Joeys?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 15, 2018, 21:29:24 pm
I would love to see a 7,000 plus crowd but I just can't see it. MK will perhaps get close to selling out the South (950) and we should have more on the home gate than the last few matches, now that word is out there that we are improving and the local element to the game so maybe an additional 500 or so. Probably looking at around 6,250 at best. If only the club could do some marketing and advertising for the game.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Coolcat on January 15, 2018, 23:40:12 pm
Mk 'mongs' ummm and in this day and age.
What if someone started a peterboro flids or oxford spaz's or Coventry cripples?
Just a thought.
Yes, indeed! As I've always said, Don't mock the inflicted...you might become a cabbage yourself one day!  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2934 on January 16, 2018, 05:37:58 am
Mk 'mongs' ummm and in this day and age.
What if someone started a peterboro flids or oxford spaz's or Coventry cripples?
Just a thought.

Thought? Yes you're right, I'm sure there's lots of flids in Oxford and many cripples in Coventry.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 16, 2018, 07:54:19 am
I would love to see a 7,000 plus crowd but I just can't see it. MK will perhaps get close to selling out the South (950) and we should have more on the home gate than the last few matches, now that word is out there that we are improving and the local element to the game so maybe an additional 500 or so. Probably looking at around 6,250 at best. If only the club could do some marketing and advertising for the game.
If they were to heavily sell this fixture through local media etc, a thousand plus extra would turn up and cause regulars to miss out, also you would get lots of younger fans turning up not paying full price so lowering the gate receipts.
How can we avoid this situation in the future?😂😂😂


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: southofthecounty on January 16, 2018, 08:13:12 am
How can we avoid this situation in the future?😂😂😂
One of the teams being in L2 next year would do it.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest170 on January 16, 2018, 08:15:31 am
If they were to heavily sell this fixture through local media etc, a thousand plus extra would turn up and cause regulars to miss out, also you would get lots of younger fans turning up not paying full price so lowering the gate receipts.
How can we avoid this situation in the future?
No they wouldnt. Last two times there was a campaign was the claret days in the play off year and the promotion year and about 700 extra came. No way 1000+ are going to turn up to a relegation battle


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 16, 2018, 08:18:31 am
Was all ticket for them.....but now it isn't! That gives an indication of how their advance sales were going. Pay on the day available if there are tickets left.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 16, 2018, 08:25:57 am
Oh good, redevelopment chat now leaking into this thread too. If we could just have a detailed discussion on whether this is an easier game or not this would probably be the perfect thread.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 16, 2018, 08:58:23 am
Good to hear you can still get it up!
don’t know who told you that but you’ve been sadly misinformed. That ship sailed many years ago, but might return to these shores if the Wimbledon Travellers Association go out of the league.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 16, 2018, 10:08:41 am
No they wouldnt. Last two times there was a campaign was the claret days in the play off year and the promotion year and about 700 extra came. No way 1000+ are going to turn up to a relegation battle
local derby and a relegation 6 pointer with the introduction of 5 new potentially exciting signings on the back of 2 straight wins.... oxford mk Peterborough luton swindon etc etc would all have 10,000 plus in similar situations   as would we if we could.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 16, 2018, 10:19:35 am
Stadium:MK was in League 2 in 07/08 Brian.

It was the best thing ever too.....

Wasn't that the season they got promoted?

Either way the novelty factor of the nice ground and a team on the up is what got the ball rolling with their attendance increases.
A nice but nearly empty soulless stadium and a team on a serious downward trend - hopefully in league 2 - means a lot of their fans will go back to being armchair Prem fans.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: sxcobbler on January 16, 2018, 10:27:05 am
Perhaps supporters expectations have suddenly gone from abject despair into overdrive optimism .....having said that , if there are 2 teams I would love to give an absolute tonking to ...& the Plastic Dons are top of my list .COYC.......keep this going.......our magic undefeated run followed by a horrendous run where we were doomed as soon as we let a goal in ....now the pendulum is swinging again ???

PS don't like the term" Mongs " being used ! That should be removed by the moderators .


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 16, 2018, 10:41:42 am
They didn't sell out last season so why would they get close now?

When things are going badly for a plastic team they will lose fans quicker than an 'established' club. All the fans that started going with their promotions from league 2 and league 1 will stop going much quicker than a seasoned fan when it's not going well.

Stadium MK in league 2 would be the best thing ever. Combine that with Us and the Real Dons surviving with Luton getting promoted, they would have nothing to look forward to next season.

The sooner they fold the better, and if they really think proper football fans have less animosity towards them over the years they are deluded. #Scumoffootball #plastic #franchise Great post, bri. That is exactly how I feel. I look forward to the day they become a non league club.

 


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 16, 2018, 10:53:36 am
At the request of a number of posters I have amended the thread title....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 16, 2018, 11:04:39 am
At the request of a number of posters I have amended the thread title....
I'm a donkey lover and I find the name of this thread most offensive!!!!


Title: Re: MK Mongs (Home) 20th Jan
Post by: Solar on January 16, 2018, 11:05:03 am
Wasn't that the season they got promoted?

Either way the novelty factor of the nice ground and a team on the up is what got the ball rolling with their attendance increases.
A nice but nearly empty soulless stadium and a team on a serious downward trend - hopefully in league 2 - means a lot of their fans will go back to being armchair Prem fans.

You won't like this, but I imagine they will have a similar attendance drop based on cycles of football that every other lower league EFL team sees. When the form picks up again, the fair weather brigade start rolling back.



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 16, 2018, 11:16:12 am
I'm a donkey lover and I find the name of this thread most offensive!!!!

https://www.etsy.com/market/donkey_fetish


Title: Re: MK Mongs (Home) 20th Jan
Post by: bri77 on January 16, 2018, 11:40:27 am
You won't like this, but I imagine they will have a similar attendance drop based on cycles of football that every other lower league EFL team sees. When the form picks up again, the fair weather brigade start rolling back.



Why would I not like that?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 16, 2018, 14:35:46 pm
I think this game more so than Bradford will tell us where we are. We really should be winning this if we want to stay up.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 16, 2018, 17:31:13 pm
local derby and a relegation 6 pointer with the introduction of 5 new potentially exciting signings on the back of 2 straight wins.... oxford mk Peterborough luton swindon etc etc would all have 10,000 plus in similar situations   as would we if we could.
There was 6054 in 2009 against MK Dons at Sixfields when a win would have secured safety, so just what fúcking bóllocks are you talking about?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 16, 2018, 17:40:58 pm
I know 3 extra people that are going that don't normally, and that's without any marketing (apart from my own). Let's all do our bit to encourage a few of the floaters back.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 16, 2018, 18:22:50 pm
I know 3 extra people that are going that don't normally, and that's without any marketing (apart from my own). Let's all do our bit to encourage a few of the floaters back.

Great idea. I’ve done this using hashtags for Ice Hockey and it’s put 25% on the gate. I know we’ve all had some fun bickering and winding each other up about Easier games, why not use this forum for good. The club have shown some ambition and commitment with some of their signings, let’s show some back by dragging some mates along (kicking and screaming if needs be) We could use the #SellOutSixfields, we could contact the club, the local journalists, get them to spread the word also. Even if we only get another 500 on the gate, it would show the club what a little bit of marketing might do.

Someone (maybe not me as people will view it negatively) start a new thread to this end, we can all then add to it how many people we are dragging along, I’m already bringing 3 neutrals from MK and will ask 2 more.

Imagine if this worked and went even 1% of the way to keeping us up and sending the Dongs down


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 16, 2018, 19:40:19 pm
There was 6054 in 2009 against MK Dons at Sixfields when a win would have secured safety, so just what fúcking bóllocks are you talking about?
This was a tuesday night game played at our amateurish stadium  at a time we sold better players and cobbled together freebees and loanee kids. Defeat after defeat must've taken its toll but attracting over 6000 without any sales and marketing still filled Sixfields to 80% capacity .. Not sure what your point is?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 16, 2018, 23:06:33 pm
This was a tuesday night game played at our amateurish stadium  at a time we sold better players and cobbled together freebees and loanee kids. Defeat after defeat must've taken its toll but attracting over 6000 without any sales and marketing still filled Sixfields to 80% capacity .. Not sure what your point is?
I think he thinks that our ground is too big


Title: Re: MK Mongs (Home) 20th Jan
Post by: Solar on January 17, 2018, 08:54:45 am
Why would I not like that?

Well based on your previous posts I assumed you saw L2 as the starting point on the road to destruction.


Title: Re: MK Mongs (Home) 20th Jan
Post by: bri77 on January 17, 2018, 09:10:19 am
Well based on your previous posts I assumed you saw L2 as the starting point on the road to destruction.

Not quite what I meant but wouldn't it be great if it was the start of their road to destruction.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 17, 2018, 09:24:31 am
With our new signings I am guessing we will see some more changes in the starting line up?

Or should we keep with the side that did so well at Bradford?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2995 on January 17, 2018, 09:45:48 am
With our new signings I am guessing we will see some more changes in the starting line up?

Or should we keep with the side that did so well at Bradford?
I think Bunney will start and Turnbull will play centre half ( unlucky on Poole ), unless he thinks three new players at the back with a new keeper is a bit much . In which case , Bunney will be on the bench and Turnbull left back, meaning Buchs sitting in the stand for the first time ever , excluding injuries .
I suspect Powell will play probably in place of Hoskins , and Berto on the bench .
The rest pick themselves - Grimes , Taylor , Long , JJOT , Crooks , Facey .


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: alstare on January 17, 2018, 09:56:27 am
Apparently Dongs have sold 800+ tickets already and can pay on the day


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 17, 2018, 10:22:32 am
Great idea. I’ve done this using hashtags for Ice Hockey and it’s put 25% on the gate. I know we’ve all had some fun bickering and winding each other up about Easier games, why not use this forum for good. The club have shown some ambition and commitment with some of their signings, let’s show some back by dragging some mates along (kicking and screaming if needs be) We could use the #SellOutSixfields, we could contact the club, the local journalists, get them to spread the word also. Even if we only get another 500 on the gate, it would show the club what a little bit of marketing might do.

Someone (maybe not me as people will view it negatively) start a new thread to this end, we can all then add to it how many people we are dragging along, I’m already bringing 3 neutrals from MK and will ask 2 more.

Imagine if this worked and went even 1% of the way to keeping us up and sending the Dongs down

Anyone?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: threeinabed on January 17, 2018, 10:58:53 am
Anyone?

you want us to contact the club to tell them there is a game on?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 17, 2018, 12:25:07 pm
you want us to contact the club to tell them there is a game on?


This sums up people on this board, either thick, negative or just here for a snide dig. Pathetic, and one of the reasons we struggle to move forward as a club.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Poggy on January 17, 2018, 12:31:21 pm
             O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Turnbull Bunney

Pereira Crooks Grimes Foley

              O'Toole

                Long


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Wolvo on January 17, 2018, 12:59:56 pm
             O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Turnbull Bunney

Pereira Crooks Grimes Foley

              O'Toole

                Long

I also think this will be the lineup JFH chooses to thrash MK with.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 17, 2018, 13:02:23 pm
Would be extremely surprised if Pereira starts.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2018, 13:20:58 pm
I also think this will be the lineup JFH chooses to thrash MK with.

great selection! If only 8)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 17, 2018, 13:23:43 pm
They've now sold over 800 tickets for a match less than 20 miles away, wow they are a massive club.

If only we had a big away stand  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: just.reading on January 17, 2018, 13:39:38 pm
             O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Turnbull Bunney

Pereira Crooks Grimes Foley

              O'Toole

                Long

Agree except swap Hoskins in for Perreira.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 17, 2018, 14:00:08 pm
             O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Turnbull Bunney

Pereira Crooks Grimes Foley

              O'Toole

                Long

Hoskins for Hilda probably but this has the makings of a relatively settled first XI squad until the next couple of signings come in?
Things must be improving.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 14:26:00 pm
They've now sold over 800 tickets for a match

Good, keep em coming.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 17, 2018, 15:48:24 pm
He'll bring Hilda and the Revmeister on with 30 seconds left again.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 17, 2018, 15:58:13 pm
This sums up people on this board, either thick, negative or just here for a snide dig. Pathetic, and one of the reasons we struggle to move forward as a club.
;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 16:10:45 pm
                Cornell

Moloney McWilliams Barnett Buchanan

    Hanley Bowditch Kasim Powell

               Hoskins

                Revell


This line up should give MK a game.  We have a strong squad.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 17, 2018, 16:13:44 pm
I read somewhere that we need 5500 to break even. That was back a few seasons ago so it might be more now.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 16:16:55 pm
I read somewhere that we need 5500 to break even. That was back a few seasons ago so it might be more now.


Might even be less due to I follow funds.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 17, 2018, 16:29:58 pm
This was a tuesday night game played at our amateurish stadium  at a time we sold better players and cobbled together freebees and loanee kids. Defeat after defeat must've taken its toll but attracting over 6000 without any sales and marketing still filled Sixfields to 80% capacity .. Not sure what your point is?
My point is, you simpleton, that you said we would get 10,000 in the exact situation that we found ourselves in back then. We barely made 6000, including away fans. It's just another example of you picking any number you can think of and adding it to whatever your next post is going to be about (as if we couldn't guess).

p.s any team needing to win to stay up will have had a season of mostly "defeat after defeat"  ::)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 17, 2018, 16:32:51 pm

Might even be less due to I follow funds.
all 6 of us


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 17, 2018, 16:41:20 pm
all 6 of us

Is that including Shaquille O'Neal ?  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 18, 2018, 14:17:51 pm
             O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Turnbull Bunney

Pereira Crooks Grimes Foley

              O'Toole

                Long
Thats 5 full debuts which is a lot in August but in January !
Some decent players in that line up, had it been August again I would be looking for the play offs minimum..😂


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 18, 2018, 14:30:58 pm
Thats 5 full debuts which is a lot in August but in January !
Some decent players in that line up, had it been August again I would be looking for the play offs minimum..😂

???


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Air-Dan on January 18, 2018, 15:52:44 pm
Thats 5 full debuts which is a lot in August but in January !
Some decent players in that line up, had it been August again I would be looking for the play offs minimum..😂

That's only two 'full' debuts: Bunney and Pereira

The latter of which has made an appearance from the bench.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 18, 2018, 18:42:07 pm
Expect to see minimum changes for this game as reward for performance last week. Possibly Bunney for Foley in left midfield otherwise unchanged.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Poggy on January 19, 2018, 11:10:58 am
I can't get myself too worked up over the whole MK Dons situation and the AFCW love-in.

The MK position is a strange one as they have some decent players in their squad but they are surely too good to go down.

Here's to another Cobblers win and getting out the bottom 4.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 19, 2018, 11:20:11 am
That's only two 'full' debuts: Bunney and Pereira

The latter of which has made an appearance from the bench.
Yes, should have put 5 starting for the first time and not full debut as even 1 min played counts as one.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2995 on January 19, 2018, 12:31:52 pm
I don’t think there will be too many changes tomorrow .
 I think the team will be as follows :

          O’Donnell

Facey.    Taylor.  Poole     Bunney

            Crooks    Grimes

Powell                              Foley

              JJOT

             Long

Hilda and Revell to come on if we are in trouble
No place for Buchs in the match day line up .



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 19, 2018, 12:45:05 pm
I don’t think there will be too many changes tomorrow .
 I think the team will be as follows :

          O’Donnell

Facey.    Taylor.  Poole     Bunney

            Crooks    Grimes

Powell                              Foley

              JJOT

             Long

Hilda and Revell to come on if we are in trouble
No place for Buchs in the match day line up .

Got a sneaking suspicion that we might see Turnbull move over to Centre Back with Poole missing out


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 19, 2018, 12:48:22 pm
I have always hated the concept of MKFC and I do not regard it as a local derby for a team from south London!
Boro' will always be OUR local derby.

Similar to the Saints where Wasps play nearer than Leicester now but are not local rivals.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 19, 2018, 13:01:43 pm
I have always hated the concept of MKFC and I do not regard it as a local derby for a team from south London!
Boro' will always be OUR local derby.

Similar to the Saints where Wasps play nearer than Leicester now but are not local rivals.

Football is all about history we have a history of rivalry with Posh and not with MK.

If I ask my kids to pick a couple of teams we 'have' to beat they would both say MK and Oxford, which I would imagine would be repeated with lots of under 20s fans. You only have to look at how the Oxford rivalry has grown since Wilder left them for us to see how it can change and whether it is liked or not MK has the potential for this.

If we carry on playing MK for most seasons over the next 10 years or so I would expect they would actually overtake Posh for a lot of fans.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2018, 14:37:38 pm
Christ knows who JFH is going to select for tomorrow - so many options! After the performance and result at Bradford you would have thought an unchanged lineup would be in order but I don’t think there is any chance of that now.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: memyhead on January 19, 2018, 14:45:44 pm
When we played them away they were s***e and very lucky to come away with a point. We bossed the game but lacked pace & a cutting edge.

Tomorrow, we now have pace in abundance and Longy can finish, so get on the front foot from the off.

Buzzing for this one...haven't felt like this for a home game all season to be honest

Get into em, fvuck em up!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3063 on January 19, 2018, 14:55:03 pm
Christ knows who JFH is going to select for tomorrow - so many options! After the performance and result at Bradford you would have thought an unchanged lineup would be in order but I don’t think there is any chance of that now.

I don't think Jimmy does unchanged lineups.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 19, 2018, 14:59:17 pm
When we played them away they were s***e and very lucky to come away with a point. We bossed the game but lacked pace & a cutting edge.

Tomorrow, we now have pace in abundance and Longy can finish, so get on the front foot from the off.

Buzzing for this one...haven't felt like this for a home game all season to be honest

Get into em, fvuck em up!

I thought we played very well in the away game, just never looked like we knew how to score a goal.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 19, 2018, 15:01:31 pm
I thought we played very well in the away game, just never looked like we knew how to score a goal.

Bang on. Dominated the game, played some lovely stuff that evening. But like you say, zero cutting edge!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 19, 2018, 15:07:59 pm
Reading the Dongs (Is that OK?) forum most of them predict a loss and are very unhappy...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2995 on January 19, 2018, 21:22:53 pm
I don't think Jimmy does unchanged lineups.
It would be ridiculous to turn the side from last week upside down though .
Three new defenders and a new goalkeeper would be suicide .
I think the two centre halves will stay .


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2018, 07:01:40 am
There’s a decent possibility that Poole and foley could lose their places today which would be incredibly harsh as I think they’ve been among our best players recently - if I was JFH I’d pretty much keep it the same as last week which would give a good message to the squad. On a side note with Turnbull being able to cover left back I can’t see any way that buchs will even be on the bench.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 20, 2018, 07:35:45 am
There’s a decent possibility that Poole and foley could lose their places today which would be incredibly harsh as I think they’ve been among our best players recently - if I was JFH I’d pretty much keep it the same as last week which would give a good message to the squad. On a side note with Turnbull being able to cover left back I can’t see any way that buchs will even be on the bench.

I think your right and this might explain Mrs Buchs tweet that Buchs liked last night.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 08:08:19 am
I think the importance of local derbies for Cobblers' supporters depends on where you grew up.  For me it was North Bucks and so putting one over Oxford, Luton and, in more recent years, MK has always been top of my wish list.  That said, I can see that for many P'boro was and will always be the big one, not least because it was once in the county. 

Anyway, today we want and need 3 points from MK and then we can look forward to Oxford and P'boro.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2018, 09:07:39 am
I’m just hoping for three points come five o clock
Be great to beat them

When all said and done they’re just a Wimbledon tribute act.

You’re just a tribute act
You’re just a tribute act


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 20, 2018, 09:33:14 am
From what it's worth, Peterborough is the only derby.

I enjoy wins against MK Dons and Rushden and Diamonds and lately Oxford a little bit more than usual, but that's all. None of them have any history with us long term, and neither of their fans would consider us a derby either (with the exception of R&D who of course aren't in a position to be a rival).

In terms of the game itself, it feels like the start of a season. With two thirds of a new team, there's so much optimism about the recruits that I hope we get a good performance, because if we don't morale may drop back to where it was a month ago.

I can't work out who's going to start. Poole or Bunney? Perreira or Hoskins or Foley or Gboly? Who is going to be a customary injury before kick off?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 20, 2018, 10:38:38 am
I think JFH for the first time will stick with a settled side, maybe with Hoksins missing out wide. This means we'll have one hell of a bench:

           O'Donnell

Facey Poole Taylor Turnbull

Powell Crooks Grimes Foley

             JJOT
                  Long

Ariyibi, Pereira, Hoskins, Revell, Bunney, Cornell, McWilliams.

This means that Moloney and Buchs will not even make the squad. Barnett or Bridge could be in there, but not sure who I would drop from the subs. Maybe Ariyibi as he as only just come in, we certainly need a goalie, defender and striker in the mix so would have to be a shift in the midfielders to me.

So looking forward to this game, a big crowd and hopefully a big atmosphere to give the boys a lift.

I'm guessing like most that the "Twitter Wars" going on with Buchs and his Mrs indicates he will be missing out. I feel sorry for him, but if he has chosen to stay and wait for a payoff/run his contract down instead of moving on (fully entitled to do and I understand) after JFH said he wasn't in his plans, be a bit more professional about it than getting your Mrs to put sniping posts on social media. Could be totally wrong about that though.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: memyhead on January 20, 2018, 11:37:12 am
Foley is not a left sided player/winger....he's done a decent job but ONLY as we've had no other options until now...he won't start imo

Also, if he sticks with the same back 4 and starts Bunney on the bench, then I don't think Buchs will even make the bench today...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 11:41:36 am
Agree about Foley which is harsh on him given that he has done a good job playing out of position.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cordwainer2 on January 20, 2018, 11:53:46 am
Snowing in Daventry!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: NorthernCobbler78 on January 20, 2018, 11:59:48 am
Foley is not a left sided player/winger....he's done a decent job but ONLY as we've had no other options until now...he won't start imo

Also, if he sticks with the same back 4 and starts Bunney on the bench, then I don't think Buchs will even make the bench today...

Didn’t he get promoted to the Championship with Yeovil playing pretty much every game as a left winger?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: ajp on January 20, 2018, 12:14:18 pm
Snowing in Daventry!

Covers going ON apparantly..


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2018, 12:41:39 pm
Covers going ON apparantly..
Pity they weren’t on this morning when it was pissing down.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 20, 2018, 12:42:57 pm
The pitch must be totally drenched...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2018, 12:59:01 pm
The pitch must be totally drenched...
You just know what’ll happen don’t you.....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2018, 13:01:35 pm
No concerns from the club about the pitch


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bungle on January 20, 2018, 13:03:42 pm
I don’t think there will be too many changes tomorrow .
 I think the team will be as follows :

          O’Donnell

Facey.    Taylor.  Poole     Bunney

            Crooks    Grimes

Powell                              Foley

              JJOT

             Long

Hilda and Revell to come on if we are in trouble
No place for Buchs in the match day line up .




Good call (other than Hoskins starting ahead of Powell). I think we're starting to see the system which JFH wants: 4-2-3-1 with two quick attacking full-backs providing width on the overlap.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 13:31:20 pm
Strong side out today...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 13:46:54 pm
Afternoon

Long, 2 nil 35/1


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 13:52:01 pm
Hello Was. Good luck with that mate.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 13:54:22 pm
A lot of people appear to have a good feeling about this game. I wish I felt the same.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Aitobs on January 20, 2018, 13:55:09 pm
Cobblers XI: O'Donnell, Facey, Taylor (c), Turnbull, Bunney, Grimes, Crooks, Foley, Hoskins, O'Toole, Long.

Subs: Cornell, Moloney, Poole, McWilliams, Aryibi, Pereira, Revell


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 13:58:47 pm
The Revmeister's still in the frame. I've got a good feeling about this game now.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 14:01:28 pm
Blimey it's a full house apparently. The good doctor must be there. He's certainly not on here. Part timer!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 14:18:36 pm
Get in


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 14:19:51 pm
Get in there!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 20, 2018, 14:20:16 pm
Yesssss


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 14:22:11 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 20, 2018, 14:22:24 pm
Noooooo


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 14:32:33 pm
We need to get Hilda and The Revmeister on to sort this out.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 14:44:21 pm
The Longmeister!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 14:47:32 pm
SuperChris.

Up to 18th and a win off midtable.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: TownOwl on January 20, 2018, 14:55:34 pm
Entertaining game so far. Facey and Bunney causing them some right head aches.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 20, 2018, 15:00:03 pm
Decent first half.

Started off well and played okay until we got the goal. Looked like Taylor clipped his own heels and allowed them to break and get the goal.

Nervy ten or fifteen minutes after that, O’Donnell made some good stops to keep us in it.

Bunney cannot defend as we were told, but is constantly bombing forward and putting decent balls in.

Hoskins having a great game, Crooks and Grimes getting stuck in too. Facey linking play well on the right and Foley as always working hard.

Long not involved too much but did his thing and took the goal well, from then on was a much better looking player. Need another goal at least but have been entertained so far and Berto and Gboly are still on the bench.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 20, 2018, 15:01:06 pm
Att 7,231 including 1210 pieces of plastic.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 20, 2018, 15:05:37 pm
My internet keeps dropping really need to get off this dial up


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 20, 2018, 15:06:02 pm
We need to get Hilda and The Revmeister on to sort this out.
They're the greatest


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 15:18:27 pm
Hilda's coming on.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 15:20:24 pm
My internet keeps dropping really need to get off this dial up
You need a good telecommunications engineer to sort that out mate.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 15:25:56 pm
Hilda's on fire!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 15:49:30 pm
Cashed out my acca. We're making me nervy...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 15:54:51 pm
The Revmeister's coming on!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 15:56:12 pm
Red card. It all happening


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: SeanODonovan on January 20, 2018, 15:59:14 pm
Great goalie - Concrete R.O'D the second


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baldy on January 20, 2018, 15:59:53 pm
We're the greatest team in the world!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: WasRambo on January 20, 2018, 16:00:56 pm
Thank fook

Another win. Eee aye eee aye eee aye o.....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 20, 2018, 16:18:48 pm
What. A. Save!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 16:20:25 pm
Good win. Excellent first half, but less intensity second half and we were lucky to get the 3 points in the end. Two oustanding saves from O'Donnell at the end so congratulations to him. Out of the relegation zone!!!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2018, 16:21:54 pm
Great result
Great effort from all the lads.
Great support from the west upper.

Moving in the right direction
Keep it up lads


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest143 on January 20, 2018, 16:22:32 pm
Pleasing news.

Interesting to see how we will setup against Blackburn... Industrious with Foley/Hoskins, or creative and attacking with Pereira/Ariyibi. Judging by the radio commentary, Pereira seemed to lose his position which caused us some problems.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Moultoncobb on January 20, 2018, 16:41:40 pm
What a performance, what a win. Great crowd and a great atmosphere.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 20, 2018, 16:45:32 pm
Pleasing news.

Interesting to see how we will setup against Blackburn... Industrious with Foley/Hoskins, or creative and attacking with Pereira/Ariyibi. Judging by the radio commentary, Pereira seemed to lose his position which caused us some problems.
I think Foley should keep his place after today. Had a great game, if only missing that final ball. Hoskins/Pereira you could argue either way.
 


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: vietnamcobbler on January 20, 2018, 16:52:37 pm
I think Foley should keep his place after today. Had a great game, if only missing that final ball. Hoskins/Pereira you could argue either way.

Think it is a topic worth debating - I like Foley a lot, but for me he is always lacking the end product, decisiveness and injection of pace which you need as wide man - he had a good game today, but if we are pushing to win rather than avoiding a loss, I would rather Ariyibi.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Buster on January 20, 2018, 17:03:37 pm
Personally, I thought we were less of a threat down the left after Foley went off...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2677 on January 20, 2018, 17:11:21 pm
Personally, I thought we were less of a threat down the left after Foley went off...
Would agree, and JFH said he expected more from Ariyibi.
I'd start with Foley and Hilda I think.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: TownOwl on January 20, 2018, 17:17:51 pm
Me too. I thought Hoskins looked knackered after 30 and faded badly. Poor in the end. He wasnt happy with being taken off, went down the tunnel and kicked something. I would have took him off too though.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 20, 2018, 17:20:17 pm
I have thought all season that Foley would be most affective as an anchor midfielder because he is combative and has good ball retension. He plays the game simply and would release other midfielders to create.

I would not start Hoskins as his end product is and always has been poor.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 17:37:10 pm
Thought the ref was spot on today. The lino on the west stand side , not so good. Aneke (MK number 10) got O'Tool right in the face with that punch and can now enjoy three games off. That won't help in their fight to stay up as he is apparently one of their better players.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 17:39:50 pm
O, and well done to the MK lot for clapping Ariyibi when he came on.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 20, 2018, 17:40:39 pm
I have thought all season that Foley would be most affective as an anchor midfielder because he is combative and has good ball retension. He plays the game simply and would release other midfielders to create.

I would not start Hoskins as his end product is and always has been poor.

Interesting, we do need to find a position for him as he’s a very good footballer.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3063 on January 20, 2018, 17:53:51 pm
Interesting, we do need to find a position for him as he’s a very good footballer.

I also like Sam Foley, gets up and down, breaks play up and very tidy on the ball. Next season he can take Matt Grimes' place in midfield but will have to fill in where needed this season.

Oh, well done on #selloutsixfields. It worked out very well, didn't it.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baby Bear on January 20, 2018, 18:00:54 pm
Think Hoskins was more upset with himself than anyone/thing else. Sam Foley is a poor man's Darren Anderton playing out wide. Although a lot fitter!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baby Bear on January 20, 2018, 18:03:06 pm
Also, how the hell did there striker get away with that ridiculous dive?  ???


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Another Pedj on January 20, 2018, 18:05:57 pm
I think I would take a poor mans Darren Anderton every time in this division.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 20, 2018, 18:08:58 pm
Also, how the hell did there striker get away with that ridiculous dive?  ???

Not only that, one of their player spat at Grimes 1st half, was clear to see. Can this be looked at retrospectively? Would be good to get another of their players banned!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2018, 18:09:50 pm
Also, how the hell did there striker get away with that ridiculous dive?  ???
What a dive though
Absolutely majestic

I thought the ref forgot to book him as he was as stunned as anyone else at the sheer audacity/ineptitude of the incident!!!

Up there with the best dives ever.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 20, 2018, 18:26:06 pm
Not only that, one of their player spat at Grimes 1st half, was clear to see. Can this be looked at retrospectively? Would be good to get another of their players banned!

I saw this, it was Cisse.

Wasn't sure if it was intentional and Grimes didn't let it get to him.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 20, 2018, 18:27:11 pm
Very good game that. Rosie's save at the end was fantastic. Well done to Jimbo his signings look great.

Bring on Blackburn!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Baby Bear on January 20, 2018, 18:34:15 pm
Also, in the first half, I think, the ref missed a blatant handball by one of our centre halves in the area.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3063 on January 20, 2018, 18:38:37 pm
Also, in the first half, I think, the ref missed a blatant handball by one of our centre halves in the area.

Yes, Turnbull I think.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 20, 2018, 18:48:00 pm
A great result today and a decent if not great performance. To throw in my two-penneth worth on Foley, I really like him but I didn't think he had a great first half today. Second half he was much better but I do think his inexperience in a wide role affects his decision making to a degree though and he often seems to run out of ideas in the final third. He does shield the fullback well though, and with Bunney behind him I think he might hang onto his place for that reason alone.

On a separate note, what a bunch of divs the plastic fans are. Singing "going down" at a team that will jump you if they win is perhaps not the brightest or most self-aware thing to do!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 20, 2018, 19:17:59 pm
Great win today, what a bunch of window lickers the MK lot are that needed a police escort, truly hilarious.
Hoskins stood out today as not quite good enough, runs around a lot with absolutly no end product, looked to be constantly out of position chasing shadows.
Foley always puts a shift in, like him.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: threeinabed on January 20, 2018, 19:26:47 pm
I'm surprised Hoskins came back out for the 2nd half. Absolute toilet.
his only saving grace is Hilda clearly isn't fit.
everyone else, job done.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 20, 2018, 19:42:02 pm
Great win today, what a bunch of window lickers the MK lot are that needed a police escort, truly hilarious.
Hoskins stood out today as not quite good enough, runs around a lot with absolutly no end product, looked to be constantly out of position chasing shadows.
Foley always puts a shift in, like him.

To be fair to Hoskins, he did have an assist on the winning goal.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Zen Master on January 20, 2018, 19:46:38 pm
Hoskins is normally full of running if not end product. Today he looked well off. Illness or poor form. Not at the races today despite his assist.

Everyone has off days.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: TownOwl on January 20, 2018, 19:47:55 pm
Just remembered, did u see how many times the ref was pushed before and after the red card? Crazy.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 20, 2018, 19:58:27 pm
Just remembered, did u see how many times the ref was pushed before and after the red card? Crazy.

The players probably thought he was a weeble. Seriously, I can't ever recall seeing a fatter referee. I assume he only added one minute to the first half because he was desperate to get in for his half time snack...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 20:00:12 pm
Looks like Pereira takes a blow to the face from another MK player just after the main bout. Retrospective three game ban coming there :o

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/league-one/11216352/northampton-2-1-mk-dons


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 20:01:11 pm
Hoskins is normally full of running if not end product. Today he looked well off. Illness or poor form. Not at the races today despite his assist.

Everyone has off days.


I've said it before and I'll say it again hoskins is not good enough for league 1 football.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Coolcat on January 20, 2018, 20:01:23 pm
Great win today, what a bunch of window lickers the MK lot are that needed a police escort, truly hilarious.
Hoskins stood out today as not quite good enough, runs around a lot with absolutly no end product, looked to be constantly out of position chasing shadows.
Foley always puts a shift in, like him.
Think we had a fair few lads out today, in Belgium today, wearing my (black) Cobbs top...and ecstatic!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Chopper67 on January 20, 2018, 20:03:07 pm
Really enjoyed the game today,so much better as I'm from MK..!!!
Am really impressed with the lad Facey,he gets forward well and puts some decent crosses in.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: ajp on January 20, 2018, 20:05:47 pm
No minutes silence/applause for Cyrille Regis today then...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2018, 20:07:25 pm
No minutes silence/applause for Cyrille Regis today then...
Just at premier league matches apparently.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: ajp on January 20, 2018, 20:11:41 pm
Not according to channel 5 football


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: ceebee2 on January 20, 2018, 20:39:17 pm
The players probably thought he was a weeble. Seriously, I can't ever recall seeing a fatter referee. I assume he only added one minute to the first half because he was desperate to get in for his half time snack...
The bloke behind me mentioned to his mate that he thought the Ref had had a good Christmas - That made me smile and settled early nerves. Absolutely great result. Well done lads.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest49 on January 20, 2018, 20:48:32 pm
Looks like Pereira takes a blow to the face from another MK player just after the main bout. Retrospective three game ban coming there :o

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/league-one/11216352/northampton-2-1-mk-dons

JJOT was a lucky boy and pretty much did what the MK lad did first, with a little less force. Handbags.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2018, 20:51:25 pm
Really enjoyed the game today,so much better as I'm from MK..!!!
Am really impressed with the lad Facey,he gets forward well and puts some decent crosses in.

Another gritty performance from the team and worthy winners; if only for Dons mediocre second half performance. Bunney got better as the game went on; we do need Foley to cover him or even Poole. I did think that the Dons were slightly better than previous results indicated and at times looked good on the ball. The second half found them out not a lot of fight etc and leaderless too! Agree Facey was good but sometimes careless with his passing! Taylor and Turnbull played well and were generally reliable and committed. Liked Aribi who produced a very strong run late in the game. Thought he had very little ball tho' - very direct player; will keep Powell out! JJOT was good thru' out the game and typical goal from him. Overall I thought the side played better at Bradford and was saddened to see Powell left out. I would reinstate him in a flash. Think that Bunney might be too attack minded at Blackburn? Aribi I like very strong and difficult to knock off the ball would definitely have him in the side at Blackburn. Dont quite get the negavity towards Hoskins who played his part, did a lot of covering; agree his final third play is lacking, but his assist in the 2nd goal was very welcome. Crooks not so effective as at Bradford but still did ok; thought he was a tad slow at times in pressing down on the oppo. The point is we won thanks to O'Donnell ; 3 priceless points and upto 18th! Hurrah!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2018, 20:54:29 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again hoskins is not good enough for league 1 football.

Were you at the game?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: tcobb on January 20, 2018, 21:01:50 pm
Excellent result again today.
Real test next week, I'm looking forward to sitting next to Everbrite on the coach to Blackburn. 😎😎


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 21:03:56 pm
with a little less force.

That is the difference between yellow and red. O Tool has his hand on the MK lads neck but the MK lad clearly strikes O Tools face. Ref got this spot on.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 21:04:17 pm
Were you at the game?

I thought you'd know as you seem to stalk me nevers.

Yes I was.

He was lucky to come out 2nd half in my opinion I'd have changed him at half time.

Judging the quality jimmy has bought in since jan sammy will be nowhere near the 1st team cone the summer and beyond as his simply not good enough which makes his new contract actotal mystery.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 21:07:07 pm
Did Hoskins not set up our winning goal?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 21:10:40 pm
M K dons just sacked their manager 😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 21:12:31 pm
Did Hoskins not set up our winning goal?

He kept the ball in very well yes and then aimlessly fired it back across yes ;0)

Good finish by Long.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2018, 21:13:03 pm
M K dons just sacked their manager 😂😂😂😂
Shame that - he was doing such a good job!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 21:13:58 pm
Shame that - he was doing such a good job!
https://www.mkdons.com/news/2018/january/club-statement-robbie-neilson2/


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 21:20:12 pm
Shame that - he was doing such a good job!

Fear not, they might be lining up Gary Johnson (who was sent to the stands today).


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2018, 21:28:07 pm
After watching it again I've got to say that their bloke was a bit unlucky to get sent off - I think jjot can count himself a bit lucky to get yellow.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2018, 21:30:59 pm
Fear not, they might be lining up Gary Johnson (who was sent to the stands today).
Phil brown's available - I think they'd be a great fit.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest47 on January 20, 2018, 21:37:29 pm
He kept the ball in very well yes and then aimlessly fired it back across yes ;0)

Good finish by Long.

He aimed it specifically at Long for the assist.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 20, 2018, 21:38:00 pm
Phil brown's available - I think they'd be a great fit.

 Still gardening isn't he?  

What MK lack is guile. They need someone who can provide it. Any takers?

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6cd11ef1f603daeb3729f9f892a7a255/tenor.gif?itemid=8704759)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 21:42:33 pm
He aimed it specifically at Long for the assist.

It may well have been aimed at long, but as with 95% of sammy's passes today it only got to long at a strech as was over hit.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Monkey on January 20, 2018, 21:57:33 pm
Thought Foley was great today. Covered and combatted well all game.
He had a lot of the ball too and shame he doesnt have a trick or turn of pace as he could have caused all sorts of problems.
I like Hoskins but he didn't have a good game today. Thought Grimes was excellent as was Taylor and ODonnell.
Bunney put a couple of devilish crosses in but there were gaping holes on the left at times.
Really liking Long now. Direct and got goals in him if he's given the service. Think he will benefit from the more attacking play and hes improving every game. Always seems to make a chance for himself when he has the ball in and around the area. I know we need anther striker but it would be harsh (and a mistake) if he's replaced now.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2018, 22:17:49 pm
I thought you'd know as you seem to stalk me nevers.

Yes I was.

He was lucky to come out 2nd half in my opinion I'd have changed him at half time.

Judging the quality jimmy has bought in since jan sammy will be nowhere near the 1st team cone the summer and beyond as his simply not good enough which makes his new contract actotal mystery.

Well done for being there! I partially agree with you on Hoskins! IMO he played his part today , he covered well and chased lost causes. It seems to me that you jump on a band wagon with your opinions plenty of negatives but never a more balanced view of a player such as Hoskins. He is an honest hard working player; we all know his frailities including JFH who nevertheless continues to pick him. Who am I to believe JFH or some bigoted opinion on here?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2487 on January 20, 2018, 22:22:16 pm
For me, Hoskins is average at everything, which is his problem. He doesn't excel in any area, average crossing, passing, shooting.

He's quick though which helps. I'd probably have him on the bench.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest47 on January 20, 2018, 22:28:03 pm
It may well have been aimed at long, but as with 95% of sammy's passes today it only got to long at a strech as was over hit.

There was nothing wrong with the pass, give him a break.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2018, 22:38:50 pm
Well done for being there! I partially agree with you on Hoskins! IMO he played his part today , he covered well and chased lost causes. It seems to me that you jump on a band wagon with your opinions plenty of negatives but never a more balanced view of a player such as Hoskins. He is an honest hard working player; we all know his frailities including JFH who nevertheless continues to pick him. Who am I to believe JFH or some bigoted opinion on here?

Nothing bigoted about my opinion, it's just different to yours.

I do admire sammy's energy and enthusiasm and he always gives 110%.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 20, 2018, 23:13:41 pm
I thought you'd know as you seem to stalk me nevers.

Yes I was.

He was lucky to come out 2nd half in my opinion I'd have changed him at half time.

Judging the quality jimmy has bought in since jan sammy will be nowhere near the 1st team cone the summer and beyond as his simply not good enough which makes his new contract actotal mystery.
Couldn't agree more, bizarre contract to say the least, think he'll struggle to make the bench going forward.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: threeinabed on January 20, 2018, 23:36:29 pm
Nothing bigoted about my opinion, it's just different to yours.

I do admire sammy's energy and enthusiasm and he always gives 110%.

Impossible for him to give 110%, but giving 100% is a minimum I expect from every player. It isn't an asset.
he offers nothing else and bottled a couple of challenges 2nd half in front of us as well.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 21, 2018, 00:35:41 am
Thought we played really well in patches today, but MK did as well and we were lucky to come away with all three points in the end.

Bunney looks awesome going forward, JJOT benefitting straight away from his decent crosses which we have lacked from that side. Will need to keep Foley at left wing to cover him though, he looked like an ex-striker when defending at times. Talking of Foley, he was a monster today. Facey looks a gem of a find, we will do well to hold onto him. Turnbull and Ash won plenty in the air and even broke forward when they could.

Crooks had his best game for us in the middle with Grimes, was nice to see them both getting stuck in as well as some fantastic passing. Hoskins was industrious, he has certainly got better at tracking back and putting the tackles in, which for me is what is keeping him in the side. Ariyibi looked rapid bit got shoved of the ball no end, was happy to try and get blocks in when needed so will reserve judgement for now.

Berto. The legend is either going to do something crazy (getting booked for timewasting by megging Nicholls twice whilst they are trying to take a free kick, winning a free kick and whipping the crowd into a frenzy), show touches of class (some of his lay-offs and going past players were superb) or be a liability (wants to be involved in every fracas, always out of position when defending). God, I love this guy so much already.  ;D

Long and JJ upfront seems to have a real chemistry now. JJ won plenty of flicks and dropped back into the middle to make things happen, despite MK targeting him for a kicking to try and provoke a response. Was lucky not to see red with Aneke though, ref was awful for both teams. Long carries on scoring and looks a much better player than the start of the season.

O'Donnell produced one of the best goalkeeping displays I have seen at Sixfields, he is the reason we got the three points for me. Looks a solid signing.

Dons were better than their position suggest and looked dangerous with the ball, but defensively were the worst side I have seen without the ball. Great support from all in the stands today, an important three points and teams around us must be getting worried about our form.

Up The Teyn.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 21, 2018, 07:06:18 am
Another manager gone on the  back of a Cobblers win
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42763390

Looks like many of their fans got their wish, appearing willing to sacrifice yesterdays game for this


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: pattcobb on January 21, 2018, 07:42:13 am
Only my fourth match this season, and second win, last one being Walsall where an almost unrecognisable team also played quite well.
So O'Donnell made some errors through the game but produced a couple of fantastic saves, of course as we won everybody wants to talk about the saves, righly so.
The two full backs were impressive although Bunney's defending not the best but pace a great asset to him. Two centre bcaks weren't without their errors either Taylor scuffed a cross field pass straight to the opposition remember? But on the whole solid enough. Midfield was where it all happened and we had the better players there simple as that. Grimes looks bound for a great career in the game, and Crooks, at well over 6ft this guy should posess everytjing to be top class, whilst not quite there yet he's getting betterwith us isn't he? Absolutely fantastic performance from O'Toole fast becoming the new "Mr Northampton Town" And Long in my opinion is a fantastic striker who will go on to better things, huge workload for the lad yesterday and of course playing away from home it will only increase. I would snap him up permanently if there was a chance!
All in all a good L1 battle added to by the comic sight of a pie fancying official waddling about the pitch. A good day despite/becuase of the weather.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Buster on January 21, 2018, 08:00:38 am
Another manager gone on the  back of a Cobblers win


It’s a bit insulting though that both the Southend and MK board consider that defeat at Northampton is the final straw.  I bet Tony Mowbray is beginning to s*** himself up at Blackburn...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 21, 2018, 08:17:09 am
Yesterday was a positive day all round, a win, a big crowd, an improved performance, feel good factor returning. However, only at Northampton do some fans feel the need to try to find a negative. Hoskins was fine, he even set up the winning goal for God’s sake!! Give the lad a break.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Buster on January 21, 2018, 08:30:18 am
Couldn’t agree more about Hoskins.  His first cross was spot on and MK did well keep it out, and when it came back to him he played it perfectly for Long to score. I also thought that on a couple of occasions in the first half he was sold a bit short by others but took the rap for for it. 


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Shoemaker on January 21, 2018, 08:47:30 am
I see both sides of the argument
My two penneth is that he often tries to pick a pass but chooses the wrong one.
When you try to be creative it happens.
He did as others have pointed out set the winning goal up.
He always puts the effort in but it’s my opinion that under jimmy he has to work very hard in his role for the team and can’t last ninety minutes doing it.
I watched him second half and he wasn’t a threat and wasn’t getting forward to create like in the first,he was basically just performing a defensive role dropping deeper.
Jimmy had seen enough and subbed him.
Absolutely the right decision in my opinion and it’s good to have a manager who can actually spot things and make sensible subs.
I think if Sam is to have a roll in the team going forward playing his new role he will have to adapt and get fitter to last longer.
FWIW I don’t think he will stay in the team when we sign a couple of new forwards.
BUT I don’t think this new role suits Sam who is a striker.
If we get new players in I’d loan Sam out to a league two club where he can play his preferred role and hopefully score a hatful
He will then be a useful asset to us financially and we can either turn a profit or bring him back into the squad and see how he goes until jan next year and make a decision on his future then.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Wolvo on January 21, 2018, 11:48:54 am
Thought Foley was great today. Covered and combatted well all game.
He had a lot of the ball too and shame he doesnt have a trick or turn of pace as he could have caused all sorts of problems. 

Foley reminds me so much of James Milner.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Cobbler78 on January 21, 2018, 11:51:39 am
Foley reminds me so much of James Milner.

Great shout. Very good footballer, but when does he fit best into any formation?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Fred_NTFC on January 21, 2018, 12:50:34 pm
Hoskins won't change in his good & bad points, but I thought last year showed that (obviously dependant on what formation we're playing) his best position by far was just behind the striker/strikers, picking up pockets of space where he can be a bit more direct, draw fouls & cause havoc with his pace. I know it was in a poor side, but he still for a run of games looked far more dangerous than at any other point in his Cobblers career.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 21, 2018, 12:58:59 pm
The problem with Hoskins is that 9/10 he flatters to deceive.  When it comes to an assessment of his game it is a case of not confusing activity with progress.  I can't question his hard work but, taking yesterday as a typical day at the office for him, he all too often made the wrong decision with the ball at his feet e.g. shooting when he had better options and needing too much time to bring the ball fully under his control.  For me he is a L2 player and quite why the club gave him a 2.5 years new contract baffles me.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 21, 2018, 13:44:14 pm
The bloke behind me mentioned to his mate that he thought the Ref had had a good Christmas - That made me smile and settled early nerves. Absolutely great result. Well done lads.

A very good Christmas.  Did he even leave the centre circle?  ;D ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 21, 2018, 14:53:38 pm
Just about deserved the win overall yesterday, some decent performances out there and to be fair to MK they were considerably better than I thought they'd be.

A couple of observations. Did MK actually scout us properly?! I got the impression that they still thought we had zero width! Hence the diamond formation, which they did change during the course of the game. I commented early doors how much room our fullbacks and in particular Foley were being given, its almost as if they thought that our fullbacks wouldn't be able to take advantage of it. IF we'd started with either of the new wingers they would have had a field day!! Sadly (for us) they'd re-organised things before they came on.

Also, the sending off. I've seen it now on the laptop, struggling to see that the 'extra argy bargy' he did over John Joe was the difference between a yellow and a red. Both should have been booked, end of. Harsh that he will be banned for 3 games and zero chance of winning an appeal given 'by the book it probably was a red'. Common sense and all that eh!!

Facey is some find as well. I tweeted last night he will be playing in the prem within 2 years. Whilst its early doors to say this, he's every bit as good as Kyle Walker was for us. The only difference is that he's 3 or 4 years older. He's the best signing out of the 7 for me, an absolute jem.

Bunney looks great attacking, doesn't look so good at defending. Pretty much what the Rochdale fans all said when we signed him. I commented mid way through the game yesterday that we could do with bringing Poole back into the side to cover our two new fullbacks attacking runs. If we play an attacking winger in front of Bunney we will have zero resistance down that side of the pitch otherwise! Foley did great there yesterday but we did lose our defensive shape once he went off, there is food for thought there. Grimes would be the one who would give way if Poole came into the midfield, Crooks has finally found his form and position in the team now (my man of the match yesterday) and John Joe..well theres no debate in terms of leaving him out!!

My midfield for Blackburn would be Foley - Crooks, Grimes, JJ (advanced) and Pierra. If we go with two wingers then Poole has to come in for Grimes but I do think that would be a mistake at this point in time.

Another top striker and we'd have a top6 22 man squad once its been culled.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bungle on January 21, 2018, 16:16:39 pm
The issue with attacking full backs, as others have said, is that you need defensively competent wingers/inside forwards to cover them/press high up the pitch to avoid pressure. That's why I'd continue to start Foley and Hoskins ahead of Pereria and Ariyibi for the time being. What a change to have genuinely game-changing options off the bench, though.

Hoskins got a decent assist yesterday and pressed and harried effectively; that's job done as far as I'm concerned. There may come a time when he's not producing assists/offering a goal threat and at that point Pereira or Ariyibi will be knocking at the door to replace him. I'd keep him in there for the time being though.

JFH appears to have found a system that works. Long is thriving on the improved service he's getting and I think that the forward we bring in should be with a view to providing another option rather than a replacement. Long has finishing ability; Revell has height and aerial ability. What we lack up there is pace and power and that's the type of forward I'd like to see us go for.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 21, 2018, 16:20:35 pm
Grimes is really starting to look like a very good player indeed now he has options out wide and real pace to aim at.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3063 on January 21, 2018, 16:41:32 pm
A very good Christmas.  Did he even leave the centre circle?  ;D ;D

He has refereed us twice already this season, both at home, against Fleetwood (first home game) & Southampton U21s.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 21, 2018, 17:55:52 pm
He has refereed us twice already this season, both at home, against Fleetwood (first home game) & Southampton U21s.

Wearing black is slimming so they say. The green outfit he wore this time didn't help.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Trickymicky on January 21, 2018, 18:18:04 pm
Great win, rode our luck somewhat but who cares, renewed optimism at last.  Neilson’s after match comments show he is a poor loser, he even begrudged our point at their place and we were by far the better team on the night!  The team is starting show promise with JJ pivotal in most things that happen on the field, the tide is turning.  Dare to dream at Blackburn?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest47 on January 21, 2018, 18:22:20 pm
A very good Christmas.  Did he even leave the centre circle?  ;D ;D

Those involved with local football, particularly youth football, will recognise that silhouette and also the reffing style.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 21, 2018, 18:38:38 pm
Those involved with local football, particularly youth football, will recognise that silhouette and also the reffing style.

I had Brian Glover/Kes (the football match) come in to my slightly over active mind during the game yesterday.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest47 on January 21, 2018, 19:04:22 pm
I had Brian Glover/Kes (the football match) come in to my slightly over active mind during the game yesterday.

Exactly. Kes is the best football film ever made even though the match only lasted around 8 minutes.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: covcobbler on January 22, 2018, 08:57:47 am
Very happy with the win on saturday and the side looks much improved thanks to the new boys. Agree that Facey is a hell of a find and a signing just looks calm and collected.

In regards to Hoskins...I thought he played well in the first half however Jimmy said something to him that he didn't like and from my view from then on he looked a bit disinterested especially in defending. When he did get taken off he didn't like it had a bit of a sulk on the bench and then kicked over some things that were rested against the wall just outside the tunnel, so was obviously not happy. From what I saw I think Jimmy and Hoskins don't get on too well and my opinion is that Sam won't be in the team much longer but time will tell.

I also think that the two new wingers will replace both Hoskins and Foley when they are fit.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 22, 2018, 09:22:28 am
Won't be the first time a manager has had a tiff with a player, nor will it be the last.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 22, 2018, 10:24:33 am
What a difference a few weeks makes.

We are actually beginning to look like a team with a plan, yes there were spells against Franchise where they seemed to be on top but apart from the last 10 minutes I felt like we were in pretty decent control of the game. The save at the end  :D, amazing stuff.


Always nice to send the plastics back with their tail between their legs, what a pathetic bunch of supporters they are. I believe that is now one Sixfields sell out for them in 6 visits. 20 miles down the road and that's it  ;D

Had a bit of a browse on their forum after the match, it's funny as hell, they are the thickest bunch of 'fans' I think I've ever seen / read. I think they are close to rivaling Oxford, but still a way to go to take that crown.
Now just got to keep my fingers crossed until May that they can't get back out of the bottom 4, yes local games are good but MK can disappear into oblivion for all I care.





Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 22, 2018, 11:07:05 am
Amazing to read on their forum that a number of their fans hung about outside the ground waiting for the manager, players & chairman to leave so they could hurl abuse at them...  ???


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: lordjord on January 22, 2018, 11:59:51 am
I sincerely hope we have an option to extent Faceys contract, the lad has all the qualities needed to play at least championship football for a long time. I have commented a lot about our full backs ability to retain the ball previously, or lack of it. Facey is happy to take a touch and pass inside or whip the ball into feet. Moloney and particular Buchanan more often than not simply lofted the ball over the top aimlessly for Long or a winger to try and chase, the fact we can keep the ball better makes a huge difference. He mentioned when he joined when he was younger he would train with the Man City first team a lot and it sure is noticeable in terms of his touch and composure.

Also regarding Bunney he flew forward at every opportunity and almost every time overlapped his winger who was Foley for most of the game. It did leave him exposed big time but I think a lot of that was due to who was infront of him. I think when he has Ariyibi or Pereira in front of him he wont need to overlap as they are more likely to take on their man themselves, he can be more of a support and then overlap on occasions.

Pretty interesting that the full back position has been our biggest upgrade so far, shows how there is no room for sentiment in football. I love Buchs and Moloney but they are not going to be getting any game time any time soon at this rate.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 22, 2018, 12:55:15 pm
I sincerely hope we have an option to extent Faceys contract, the lad has all the qualities needed to play at least championship football for a long time. I have commented a lot about our full backs ability to retain the ball previously, or lack of it. Facey is happy to take a touch and pass inside or whip the ball into feet. Moloney and particular Buchanan more often than not simply lofted the ball over the top aimlessly for Long or a winger to try and chase, the fact we can keep the ball better makes a huge difference. He mentioned when he joined when he was younger he would train with the Man City first team a lot and it sure is noticeable in terms of his touch and composure.

Also regarding Bunney he flew forward at every opportunity and almost every time overlapped his winger who was Foley for most of the game. It did leave him exposed big time but I think a lot of that was due to who was infront of him. I think when he has Ariyibi or Pereira in front of him he wont need to overlap as they are more likely to take on their man themselves, he can be more of a support and then overlap on occasions.

Pretty interesting that the full back position has been our biggest upgrade so far, shows how there is no room for sentiment in football. I love Buchs and Moloney but they are not going to be getting any game time any time soon at this rate.

I tweeted on Saturday evening that its huge credit to JFH who seems to have identified our biggest issues in the fullback positions. Whereas every one of us said wingers/strikers/ball winning midfielders etc as the main requirement.

That is what you want to see the manager do. Out managing us keyboard warriors!  ;D

JE and Page were never at the races, and that is now even more evident.

JFH has picked some strange line ups during his tenure (Revell on the wing!) BUT now that he is able to bring in his own players he is excelling. Im optimistic that he's what many of us thought he would be when he first arrived…a dam good manager!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest170 on January 22, 2018, 13:47:58 pm
Agree with a lot of above. Was impressed on the whole, there was a lot of misplaced passes in the first half but that's to be expected with so many new players (although some were just poor). The last 10 mins was nervous but there was a lot riding on the game for the players, lots of debuts, big home crowd, win and out of relegation etc. Will be interesting to see them on Saturday when they play at Blackburn with no expectations and a lot less pressure.
Regarding Hoskins, he didn't seem on it and not his best game. If he wasn't happy to come off and kicked bottles etc I am happy about that. We don't need players who are satisfied with a poor performance or with being subbed. Players always have disagreements with manager, it just depends on how bad and if its just a spat.

Things are looking promising but still not out of it just yet


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 22, 2018, 18:57:11 pm
Exactly. Kes is the best football film ever made even though the match only lasted around 8 minutes.

Have you ever seen this....Another Sunday and Sweet F.A. If you enjoyed the footy scene from Kes I recommend it.



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Poggy on January 23, 2018, 09:23:03 am
Nice to see their striker get sent off; particular after his rather OTT reactions in front of the Cobblers fans at their ground last season.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 23, 2018, 11:54:56 am
I see Caroline has dragged Jimmy into the ladies toilet. Does she fancy a BMW?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_W2vW5ftM


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 23, 2018, 12:28:13 pm
I see Caroline has dragged Jimmy into the ladies toilet. Does she fancy a BMW?


 ;D

She can have mine - wont cost her too much either  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3023 on January 23, 2018, 12:49:57 pm
I tweeted on Saturday evening that its huge credit to JFH who seems to have identified our biggest issues in the fullback positions. Whereas every one of us said wingers/strikers/ball winning midfielders etc as the main requirement.

That is what you want to see the manager do. Out managing us keyboard warriors!  ;D

JE and Page were never at the races, and that is now even more evident.

JFH has picked some strange line ups during his tenure (Revell on the wing!) BUT now that he is able to bring in his own players he is excelling. Im optimistic that he's what many of us thought he would be when he first arrived…a dam good manager!

Not everyone!

..........

New manager needs to look for wing-backs in the January window also, Maloney and Buchs haven't got the athleticism and speed of many of the other teams players for me.

Sorry, couldn't resist a gloat!  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 23, 2018, 12:57:30 pm
I see Caroline has dragged Jimmy into the ladies toilet. Does she fancy a BMW?

;D
She can have mine - wont cost her too much either  ;)

If you want to make racist & sexist jokes, would you do it in your own alone time while watching It Ain't Half Hot Mum plz. thx.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 23, 2018, 13:55:57 pm
;D

She can have mine - wont cost her too much either  ;)
That's a very sexist comment Cecil and I'm sure she's not that desperate either.  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 15:37:42 pm
That's a very sexist comment Cecil and I'm sure she's not that desperate either.  ;D

Matt Grimes better watch himself after listening to Caroline on the BBC Northampton sport program last night. He is a favourite apparently.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 26, 2018, 19:09:05 pm
If you want to make racist & sexist jokes, would you do it in your own alone time while watching It Ain't Half Hot Mum plz. thx.
Ohhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn ohhhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn, is that better snowflake..

P.s I was at the presidents club this week there were a few labour boys there as well, filling their boots


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 26, 2018, 19:58:07 pm
Ohhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn ohhhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn, is that better snowflake..

P.s I was at the presidents club this week there were a few labour boys there as well, filling their boots

Was you one of the 'hostesses'?  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 26, 2018, 20:06:39 pm
Ohhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn ohhhhhhh Jeremy Corbyn, is that better snowflake..

P.s I was at the presidents club this week there were a few labour boys there as well, filling their boots

Interesting that you would presume I like Jeremy Corbyn...I don't see what politics has to do with this?

Being brought up in a correct way however, does...



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 26, 2018, 20:10:53 pm
Was you one of the 'hostesses'?  ;D
I felt soooo abused  ;D ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 26, 2018, 20:12:28 pm
Interesting that you would presume I like Jeremy Corbyn...I don't see what politics has to do with this?

Being brought up in a correct way however, does...


You do like Jezza though don't you?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 26, 2018, 20:16:08 pm
Was you one of the 'hostesses'?  ;D
I really don’t understand why contributors on here seem to find equality of the sexes so difficult to accept? My wife demanded it had to be a fundamental part of our marriage. Since then every time there is a noise downstairs we go and sort the “intruders” out on a rotational basis.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 26, 2018, 20:21:57 pm
Maybe you should learn not to judge people on one point of their views. As someone who listens to both sides of an arguement and tries to give a balanced answer, that might give you an indication of where my political allegiances lie. Not that it has any bearing on politics at the moment.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 26, 2018, 20:49:14 pm
I really don’t understand why contributors on here seem to find equality of the sexes so difficult to accept? My wife demanded it had to be a fundamental part of our marriage. Since then every time there is a noise downstairs we go and sort the “intruders” out on a rotational basis.

 ;D  Do you also have a bin rotation?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 26, 2018, 20:59:54 pm
;D  Do you also have a bin rotation?
Second on a rather extensive list.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:10:02 pm
If you want to make racist & sexist jokes, would you do it in your own alone time while watching It Ain't Half Hot Mum plz. thx.

I own a BMW you wally - surely the comments indicated that!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 21:13:29 pm
I own a BMW you wally -

Do you rub turtle wax on it ?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:14:04 pm
That's a very sexist comment Cecil and I'm sure she's not that desperate either.  ;D

I know at times you play the simpleton, but I happen to own a BMW which is not worth a great deal of dosh. Have nether heard BMW expressed other than a car. Depends on the company you keep.



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 26, 2018, 21:14:18 pm
I own a BMW you wally - surely the comments indicated that!
Coincidentally so do I, the wife’s doing an oil change as we speak.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:15:42 pm
Do you rub turtle wax on it ?

No its no good - try Maguairs Gold its better.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:18:17 pm
Coincidentally so do I, the wife’s doing an oil change as we speak.

Which grade of oil is she sticking in - 0W 30? Ancient as my car is would never let my wife go near the engine.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 21:20:58 pm
No its no good - try Maguairs Gold its better.

I get mine attended to by a group of efficient young men every week or so I am not hands on myself. It only cost me £15 a time.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 26, 2018, 21:23:20 pm
Which grade of oil is she sticking in - 0W 30? Ancient as my car is would never let my wife go near the engine.
Nothing to do with me, her turn her choice, she’d better hurry up though, you don’t buy a dog and bark yourself?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 21:29:38 pm
Nothing to do with me, her turn her choice, she’d better hurry up though, you don’t buy a dog and bark yourself?

Susan may help.
(http://media.lehighvalleylive.com/entertainment-general_impact/photo/susan-boyle-d50ebec57caf4412.jpg)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:31:30 pm
Nothing to do with me, her turn her choice, she’d better hurry up though, you don’t buy a dog and bark yourself?

Oh dear - make sure she does not pour it into the radiator :o


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 26, 2018, 21:32:05 pm
Susan may help.
(http://media.lehighvalleylive.com/entertainment-general_impact/photo/susan-boyle-d50ebec57caf4412.jpg)
Don’t think she’d be agile enough to get these heavy boxes up the loft though?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 21:33:00 pm
Susan may help.


Dont be silly Frank - bet you would like a BMW! ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 21:36:48 pm
Dont be silly Frank - bet you would like a BMW! ;)

I'm not sure. Can I have a go with yours first to see if I like it?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 26, 2018, 21:40:28 pm
Update from Pete..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42820338


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 26, 2018, 22:01:48 pm
I know at times you play the simpleton, but I happen to own a BMW which is not worth a great deal of dosh. Have nether heard BMW expressed other than a car. Depends on the company you keep.


We've all seen your crappy Beemer Cecil..

(https://www.conceptcarz.com/images/BMW/58_BMW_Iseetta-300-Export-DV-11-CbS_01.jpg)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: TownOwl on January 26, 2018, 22:04:48 pm
Oops, £3million down the drain then. I'm sure I read on another thread that a large stadium and lots of commercial facilities etc was the way forward, but the Winkelman is worried it's not working and needs investment. What a shame. That big empty stadium probably costs a few quid to run. Would be lovely for the League 2 teams to visit next year 🤣


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2018, 23:05:48 pm
We've all seen your crappy BMW

I wish as they are worth a bob or two now - in tip top condition over £35k


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: lift tower on January 26, 2018, 23:15:24 pm
Oops, £3million down the drain then. I'm sure I read on another thread that a large stadium and lots of commercial facilities etc was the way forward, but the Winkelman is worried it's not working and needs investment. What a shame. That big empty stadium probably costs a few quid to run. Would be lovely for the League 2 teams to visit next year 🤣
Good because whenever opposition fans slag them off then visit in big numbers the mk fans always smugly thank them for the gate money. Doesn't seem to be doing much good does it.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2934 on January 27, 2018, 01:51:26 am
Oops, £3million down the drain then. I'm sure I read on another thread that a large stadium and lots of commercial facilities etc was the way forward, but the Winkelman is worried it's not working and needs investment. What a shame. That big empty stadium probably costs a few quid to run. Would be lovely for the League 2 teams to visit next year 🤣

How much are we in debt but without facilities or assets?

I totally agree regarding the white elephant of a stadium they built was far too big capacity wise, however it seems again people can't disassociate between business revenue streams and the black hole of football finance.

It's a £30m stadium, he's only £3m down. Think about it. How many other large stadiums will you find in league 2 next season and how many will be in the Championship or higher. Coincidence? I don't know, maybe the experts here can explain to me why.
 


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 27, 2018, 06:21:44 am
I get mine attended to by a group of efficient young men every week or so I am not hands on myself. It only cost me £15 a time.

Sorry, I've lost the thread of the conversation - is this referring to your car or your wife...? ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2018, 07:24:21 am
Sorry, I've lost the thread of the conversation - is this referring to your car or your wife...? ;D

 ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: meccanostand on January 27, 2018, 08:28:55 am
How much are we in debt but without facilities or assets?

I totally agree regarding the white elephant of a stadium they built was far too big capacity wise, however it seems again people can't disassociate between business revenue streams and the black hole of football finance.

It's a £30m stadium, he's only £3m down. Think about it. How many other large stadiums will you find in league 2 next season and how many will be in the Championship or higher. Coincidence? I don't know, maybe the experts here can explain to me why.
 

Taking MK part-time and selling the stadium to the FA for non-league and lower league playoff finals etc might be worth considering


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: roade cobbler on January 27, 2018, 09:15:26 am
How much are we in debt but without facilities or assets?

I totally agree regarding the white elephant of a stadium they built was far too big capacity wise, however it seems again people can't disassociate between business revenue streams and the black hole of football finance.

It's a £30m stadium, he's only £3m down. Think about it. How many other large stadiums will you find in league 2 next season and how many will be in the Championship or higher. Coincidence? I don't know, maybe the experts here can explain to me why.
 

That's not 3m down since building the £30m stadium...it's a £3m loss last year!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2018, 09:21:28 am
That's not 3m down since building the £30m stadium...it's a £3m loss last year!

Don't show them up with facts...  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: RowN on January 27, 2018, 09:58:15 am
Ok, please close this thread, the plastic wankers have had enough space here!!  (Start another for the Aussie/BMWanker thread elsewhere)..

I Really hope they go bust and someone from London buys them and moves them south, as aka reverse Wimbledon!!.

That would be ironic, Local MK supporters having to travel south for games


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2934 on January 27, 2018, 12:59:17 pm
That's not 3m down since building the £30m stadium...it's a £3m loss last year!

Well obviously, or are you confusing this with secured debt? Current loss..how many other times do you calculate your losses?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: roade cobbler on January 27, 2018, 13:37:10 pm
Well obviously, or are you confusing this with secured debt? Current loss..how many other times do you calculate your losses?

Just quoting the BBC article .... "Winkelman has led the Dons since they were founded in 2004 and says the club has lost him £3m in the past year."

It doesn't say how much he has lost (or gained) since spending 30m on building the stadium, only how much he lost last year.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2018, 16:29:59 pm
Just quoting the BBC article .... "Winkelman has led the Dons since they were founded in 2004 and says the club has lost him £3m in the past year."

It doesn't say how much he has lost (or gained) since spending 30m on building the stadium, only how much he lost last year.


Don't argue using facts against their fiction, you'll never win....


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 27, 2018, 16:48:32 pm
Outnumbered by Cov fans in their home ground today....plastic!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 27, 2018, 18:31:54 pm
We would have outsold the franchisees BUT they stopped selling tickets to Cobblers fans when we reached 7,040 while MK had only sold 5K!!!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 27, 2018, 20:02:16 pm
Coventry were limited to 800 as well


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Another Pedj on January 27, 2018, 20:04:12 pm
How much are we in debt but without facilities or assets?

I totally agree regarding the white elephant of a stadium they built was far too big capacity wise, however it seems again people can't disassociate between business revenue streams and the black hole of football finance.

It's a £30m stadium, he's only £3m down. Think about it. How many other large stadiums will you find in league 2 next season and how many will be in the Championship or higher. Coincidence? I don't know, maybe the experts here can explain to me why.
 

Winkleman didn't pay 1 penny for the stadium. Indeed all running costs have been met by other armies to date. Not sure for how much longer MK have the benefit of this.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Another Pedj on January 27, 2018, 20:07:05 pm
Sorry parties not armies. Too much of a Luddite to know how to amend it.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: #Frank on January 27, 2018, 20:42:37 pm
Sorry, I've lost the thread of the conversation - is this referring to your car or your wife...? ;D

Neither.  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 27, 2018, 21:32:50 pm
Sorry parties not armies. Too much of a Luddite to know how to amend it.
modify button, top right of your post


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Manwork04 on January 27, 2018, 22:56:31 pm
Winkleman didn't pay 1 penny for the stadium. Indeed all running costs have been met by other armies to date. Not sure for how much longer MK have the benefit of this.
Not to mention the £50 + million inter MK got from IKEA and Asda, inter MK is Wanklemans property investment company.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Another Pedj on January 28, 2018, 07:22:11 am
Thank you


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Rach on January 28, 2018, 15:01:47 pm
Just out of interest, WTF were MK singing about where’s our money gone?
They certainly are an odd bunch


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on January 28, 2018, 15:20:12 pm
Outnumbered by Cov fans in their home ground today....plastic!!

.....a hilarious statistic that frankly they should be ashamed of - playing a club a league below them as well!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 28, 2018, 16:03:59 pm
.....a hilarious statistic that frankly they should be ashamed of - playing a club a league below them as well!
The extra £160,000 that Cov put into the pot will help them get over the shame.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Another Pedj on January 28, 2018, 16:08:53 pm
£45.00 per ticket. They should be ashamed and its a miracle they got that many to pay for it.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 28, 2018, 16:34:18 pm
Discounted tickets for Coventry I heard


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 29, 2018, 07:44:20 am
The longer things carry on going wrong for them the better.

Surely if they lost 3 million last year relegation would increase this number significantly. Edging them ever closer to going bust.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 29, 2018, 08:43:53 am
How much are we in debt but without facilities or assets?

I totally agree regarding the white elephant of a stadium they built was far too big capacity wise, however it seems again people can't disassociate between business revenue streams and the black hole of football finance.

It's a £30m stadium, he's only £3m down. Think about it. How many other large stadiums will you find in league 2 next season and how many will be in the Championship or higher. Coincidence? I don't know, maybe the experts here can explain to me why.
 

How long do you think they will last losing that annually? You have no idea how much they are in the shyte. You're looking at Nene Park on a much grander scale..


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 29, 2018, 09:44:06 am
Hopefully they can't last much longer.

I don't think I've ever wanted a team to get relegated as much as I do them this season. The further down they go the higher the losses - surely.


Now if only we had a great big modern stadium with a huge away end, all our problems would be resolved, eh Beds?



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 29, 2018, 09:48:24 am
How long before Northampton Saints take over the stadium???


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2487 on January 29, 2018, 10:01:09 am
The extra £160,000 that Cov put into the pot will help them get over the shame.


Yeah when we took 7k there last year it made a real difference to them.  ::)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 29, 2018, 10:30:39 am
How long before Northampton Saints take over the stadium???

That would be great as we could then take over the Gardens  ;D Nice 15K stadium, we will be in the Championship in no time with that.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 29, 2018, 10:36:23 am
MK are there only football team, at any level across the length and breadth of the country, that I'd like to see go under. It's nothing to do with their proximity to us, I just hate everything they represent.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Poggy on January 29, 2018, 10:41:56 am
Do they not have very ambitious plans for a new training ground?



Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Wolvo on January 29, 2018, 10:49:23 am
That would be great as we could then take over the Gardens  ;D Nice 15K stadium, we will be in the Championship in no time with that.

Imagine that. MK become a basement level club often referred to as being 'a Rugby town', and we get a ready built stadium suitable Championship football.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Gaston on January 29, 2018, 11:30:32 am
How long before Northampton Saints take over the stadium???

I have been thinking the same thing this weekend.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2934 on January 29, 2018, 11:42:05 am
How long do you think they will last losing that annually? You have no idea how much they are in the shyte. You're looking at Nene Park on a much grander scale..

I hope you're right, despise the bastards and how the whole franchise was allowed.

Nice idea to chase the egg chasers out, but that'll never happen, if they do leave they'll cash in on Franklins.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2018, 12:13:43 pm
I hope you're right, despise the bastards and how the whole franchise was allowed.

Nice idea to chase the egg chasers out, but that'll never happen, if they do leave they'll cash in on Franklins.

Not particularly yours but I don’t enjoy all this vilification of MK! I just prefer to beat them anytime we play them! All this spite and gloating is not for me. Not so long ago we were up the creek...how would we feel under
Similar circumstances?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: threeinabed on January 29, 2018, 12:15:34 pm
I hope you're right, despise the bastards and how the whole franchise was allowed.

Nice idea to chase the egg chasers out, but that'll never happen, if they do leave they'll cash in on Franklins.

Plus, only 8k for the saints last home game (clermont) in the prestige european competition - not sure they need a bigger stadium right now.

strange how having a nice ground, with a big capacity doesn't get filled every game as it should do according to beds?! maybe because no-one wants to watch a s*** team every game.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 29, 2018, 12:17:38 pm
Not particularly yours but I don’t enjoy all this vilification of MK! I just prefer to beat them anytime we play them! All this spite and gloating is not for me. Not so long ago we were up the creek...how would we feel under
Similar circumstances?

But they're not like every other club. They not only stole a club from it's community but also acted like they were doing them a favour in doing so. As AFC have very neatly shown in the time since MK could have formed a new club (or even took over the now defunct MK City) and built them up to be a league club. Personally I hope they go to the wall and there is not a single other club I would say that about.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 29, 2018, 12:24:04 pm
How long do you think they will last losing that annually? You have no idea how much they are in the shyte. You're looking at Nene Park on a much grander scale..

Not sure about that. As much as I want them to fail I think we're a miles way away from that as yet.

Nene Park was essentially just a football ground & some training pitches in the middle of nowhere.

MK's stadium contains a highly successful Doubletree hotel, which constantly runs at over 95% occupancy. It's also hugely popular for meetings & functions. The Inter MK consortium is also propped up with the MK:One, Odeon, ASDA & IKEA commercial property deals, along with numerous food outlets around the stadium. So whilst the £3m loss on the football side might be ugly, I don't think it represents a major problem for them because of all the above income streams.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Zen Master on January 29, 2018, 12:33:45 pm
Must admit I did pop on their forum the other week to ask if the stadium was a White Elephant?

Not impressed by me.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 29, 2018, 12:57:54 pm
Nearly any other club in the country that entered financial difficulty would be rallied around from the 'football family'. Look at Hartlepool's current plight for examples. MK (in my opinion) wouldn't have as much of this goodwill so it is not only some / most Cobblers fans that have this attitude towards them.

The only club in the country I want to disappear. The origins of their formation has no place in the English leagues and no amount of time will change my views on that. The sooner they disappear the better.




Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 29, 2018, 12:58:58 pm
The Saints have stopped playing their yearly game at stad:mk as the supporters dont like going there.
So wont be going back only for a neutral ground in the rugby european cup.
If only mkdons had the foresight to built a tiny little stadium😂😂 behave yourselves, we are literally light years behind them


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on January 29, 2018, 12:59:50 pm
If the Saints want to compete with Wasps, Leicester etc they will be hampered in that Franklins Gardens can not be built any higher because of planning restrictions. So whilst in the past month they have had two poor gates if the want 25K crowds and a budget to compete they will have to move!

MK Stadium or Sixfields expanded??


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 29, 2018, 13:02:35 pm
The Saints have stopped playing their yearly game at stad:mk as the supporters dont like going there.
So wont be going back only for a neutral ground in the rugby european cup.
If only mkdons had the foresight to built a tiny little stadium😂😂 behave yourselves, we are literally light years behind them


I don't understand how they aren't in the Premier league though as they have a nice shiny new ground, big capacity for ticket incentives / freebies, and a large away section and corporate facilities. If only we had the same we could be in MK's position in the league ...................... oh wait a minute  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2934 on January 29, 2018, 14:47:53 pm
Not sure about that. As much as I want them to fail I think we're a miles way away from that as yet.

Nene Park was essentially just a football ground & some training pitches in the middle of nowhere.

MK's stadium contains a highly successful Doubletree hotel, which constantly runs at over 95% occupancy. It's also hugely popular for meetings & functions. The Inter MK consortium is also propped up with the MK:One, Odeon, ASDA & IKEA commercial property deals, along with numerous food outlets around the stadium. So whilst the £3m loss on the football side might be ugly, I don't think it represents a major problem for them because of all the above income streams.

I did try to put this point across earlier but not quite as succinct. Essential securities and additional revenue streams seems to be dismissed at will here, conveniently lumped into the absurd cost of football.

If they had brought MK City through the pyramids it would be a different story.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on January 29, 2018, 15:46:19 pm
we are literally light years behind them

......well we questioned your business acumen & I'm afraid your physics also leaves a lot to be desired  ;)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 29, 2018, 16:36:53 pm
The Saints have stopped playing their yearly game at stad:mk as the supporters dont like going there.
So wont be going back only for a neutral ground in the rugby european cup.
If only mkdons had the foresight to built a tiny little stadium😂😂 behave yourselves, we are literally light years behind them
We are 20th and not in the relegation zone
They 21st and in the relegation zone
We don't
So, once again, i don't know what you're talking about


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 29, 2018, 17:34:55 pm

I don't understand how they aren't in the Premier league though as they have a nice shiny new ground, big capacity for ticket incentives / freebies, and a large away section and corporate facilities. If only we had the same we could be in MK's position in the league ...................... oh wait a minute  ;D

Despite all the commercial side (and I was at Arena MK for a sold out Masters Darts tournament) they/Winkleman has failed to invest in the playing side.

They're still a league 1 team with a mix of permanent, youngster and loan players....just like us.

Commercial revenue and income HAS to go hand in hand with investment on the pitch....or whats the point??

Winklemans statement that they made a 3 million pound loss last year is very misleading. That is for the whole Inter MK Group.....where on a turnover of £27 million their operating costs were £30 million.....so yes, a 3m loss for the whole group on paper....but what proportion of that £27m is football club related? To put it into context I believe NTFC's turnover for the year was around £4m

The turnover for Inter MK also increased from 18m in 2014 to 27m in 2015, so that's a healthy 50% increase year on year. Their balance sheet shows that they made over £5m on player disposals (sales) in 2014, but only £775k in 2015.
Their balance sheet also shows that they have tangible assets of over £107 million pounds. Ours shows assets of £2.4 million.

Its very hard to feel sorry for them isn't it?!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 30, 2018, 07:37:16 am
I haven't looked into their finances in that way, quite interesting to see all the different revenue streams like that, it does show that we have a long way to go to increase our revenue.

One thing I gleaned from your information is that they might aswell just get rid of the football club and stick to all the other ventures  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: meccanostand on January 30, 2018, 08:32:14 am
Who in their right mind in MK would follow them when you can be in London in 40 mins?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on January 30, 2018, 09:41:12 am
I haven't looked into their finances in that way, quite interesting to see all the different revenue streams like that, it does show that we have a long way to go to increase our revenue.

One thing I gleaned from your information is that they might aswell just get rid of the football club and stick to all the other ventures  ;D

Don't get over impressed with the MK figures - as an old sage advised me very early in my business life - "Revenue is vanity, Profit is reality" or put another way businesses live and die on profit (and cash flow).


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on January 30, 2018, 11:20:25 am
We are 20th and not in the relegation zone
They 21st and in the relegation zone
We don't
So, once again, i don't know what you're talking about
I have decided to stop this debate with Beds. Bizarrely for some reason it started to feel the same as if I were to tell my youngest that Santa didn’t exist, and the guilt started to eat away at me. Better to pat them on the head and tell them all will be well next year. Say what you like about Beds though, he seems to love and care about the club as much as life itself so I can’t bring myself to moan at him anymore.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on January 30, 2018, 12:52:26 pm
I have decided to stop this debate with Beds. Bizarrely for some reason it started to feel the same as if I were to tell my youngest that Santa didn’t exist, and the guilt started to eat away at me. Better to pat them on the head and tell them all will be well next year. Say what you like about Beds though, he seems to love and care about the club as much as life itself so I can’t bring myself to moan at him anymore.

Really? I get the impression he despises everything about the club.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 30, 2018, 20:21:34 pm
Who in their right mind in MK would follow them when you can be in London in 40 mins?
maybe the ones that want to support their local club


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 30, 2018, 20:48:08 pm
Really? I get the impression he despises everything about the club.
Especially the Chairman! What a prick Beds is!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on January 30, 2018, 20:51:10 pm
Who in their right mind in MK would follow them when you can be in London in 40 mins?
The clue is in their name of Mk M*ngs! (Just to keep the Police Constable brigade happy).


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on January 31, 2018, 11:18:47 am
I have decided to stop this debate with Beds. Bizarrely for some reason it started to feel the same as if I were to tell my youngest that Santa didn’t exist, and the guilt started to eat away at me. Better to pat them on the head and tell them all will be well next year. Say what you like about Beds though, he seems to love and care about the club as much as life itself so I can’t bring myself to moan at him anymore.

I agree but I think it is slightly curious he is so silent on any actual good news - or perhaps the recent signings in his mind are not good news (increasing our wage bill, debt, misery and the end of the world etc etc etc)


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: BedsCobb on January 31, 2018, 20:10:54 pm
I agree but I think it is slightly curious he is so silent on any actual good news - or perhaps the recent signings in his mind are not good news (increasing our wage bill, debt, misery and the end of the world etc etc etc)
Thanks for thinking about me😂
I was going to reply to your earlier simplistic views on loss and profits which suggests you make no difference between the likes of the Kingfisher group to a corner shop.
They both need profits but one cant  suffer losses/ cash flow whilst the other will deliberately suffer losses to build parts of its group. The old sage you refer to forgot to mention speculate to accumulate .

As for the new signings.. Great acquisitions that Im very happy with, even if our turn over will show inital losses as long as they dont accumulate too much then are saddled onto the club without the means and wherefore (redev😉) to ever repay them.
So hoping those leading the ship at this exciting time have either a bottomless pit of cash or plans of making us more self sufficient.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on February 01, 2018, 09:23:28 am

 your earlier simplistic views

spoken without the slightest hint of irony


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest1269 on February 01, 2018, 11:26:00 am
Thanks for thinking about me
I was going to reply to your earlier simplistic views on loss and profits which suggests you make no difference between the likes of the Kingfisher group to a corner shop.

I'm building a picture in my mind - NTFC the Arkwright open all hours corner shop and MK the shiny new Tesco Metro - & do you know what I would prefer to shop at Arkwright's!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: lift tower on February 01, 2018, 11:27:19 am
Who in their right mind in MK would follow them when you can be in London in 40 mins?
Their fans don't appear to like travelling. Look at their away attendances.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: bri77 on February 01, 2018, 13:02:46 pm
They are claiming they've only sold 150 advance tickets for their trip to Walsall on saturday. Pathetic  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest2539 on February 01, 2018, 13:39:02 pm
Especially when you compare it to ourselves taking nearly ONE THOUSAND Cobblers fans to Blackburn which is more than TWICE the distance!


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on February 01, 2018, 20:05:19 pm
I agree but I think it is slightly curious he is so silent on any actual good news - or perhaps the recent signings in his mind are not good news (increasing our wage bill, debt, misery and the end of the world etc etc etc)
Some people are just like that, if I won the lottery my Mum would have been beside herself I would have blown it on an 0rgy of fast cars, drugs and tarts. To be fair that’s exactly what I was planning.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 01, 2018, 20:17:08 pm
Some people are just like that, if I won the lottery my Mum would have been beside herself I would have blown it on an 0rgy of fast cars, drugs and tarts. To be fair that’s exactly what I was planning.
No alcohol? Speaks volumes about the state of Australian beer.  ;D


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: TownOwl on February 01, 2018, 20:23:20 pm
To my mind, stats on away followings are the clearest simple indication of how well supported and therefore sustainable a club is in the long term. It shows how much your supporters genuinely support the club and want to be there, even if it is all the way to Carlisle on a cold and wet Tuesday night to lose 5-0. As a true fan once said, yes I know they will get battered, but I still want to be there to see how they got battered, which players are giving their all, and to support them all the way and try cheer them along to a consolation goal.

If your fans  can't be ar5ed to travel to Northampton, or Walsall on the back of a few new signings and a new manager, then I don't think that they are genuinely supporters and won't be bothered to do bucket collections in hard times. Plenty of seats and a hotel or not, I'd back an Oldham, Oxford or Bristol R over an MK all day for long term survival.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 01, 2018, 20:38:54 pm
Some people are just like that, if I won the lottery my Mum would have been beside herself I would have blown it on an 0rgy of fast cars, drugs and tarts. To be fair that’s exactly what I was planning.

And you would have wasted the rest?


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on February 01, 2018, 21:16:01 pm
No alcohol? Speaks volumes about the state of Australian beer.  ;D
No, need to keep your wits about you in those circumstances Kid. I’ve heard some of those exotic sorts whip your kidneys out for the organ black market? Anyway, sleep well.


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 01, 2018, 21:33:17 pm
No, need to keep your wits about you in those circumstances Kid. I’ve heard some of those exotic sorts whip your kidneys out for the organ black market? Anyway, sleep well.
Good point. If its any consolation, I work just around the corner from Smithfield Market. I can always post you a replacement. Source and compatibility unknown though...


Title: Re: MK Donkeys Home 20 Jan 18
Post by: guest3114 on February 02, 2018, 04:22:42 am
Good point. If its any consolation, I work just around the corner from Smithfield Market. I can always post you a replacement. Source and compatibility unknown though...
With any luck it might be your own you get back then?