The Hotel End

The Hotel End => Cobblers Corner => Topic started by: guest2539 on February 13, 2018, 23:00:04 pm



Title: J F H
Post by: guest2539 on February 13, 2018, 23:00:04 pm
Anybody notice that Dutch windmill standing on the touch line barking out orders every 30 seconds to the bewilderment of the players?

If you had a 'player of the month' who had just scored 4 goals and then in the last game created 3 goals would you move him more defensive so he does not effect the game so much?
I feel sorry for Foley (a central defensive midfielder) who is played on the wing ahead of the wingers we signed!

The home performances against Rochdale and Gillingham are not acceptable!

Is JFH the new tinkerman?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: #Frank on February 13, 2018, 23:02:36 pm
Second half was fine. Good substitutions made.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 13, 2018, 23:04:10 pm
Anybody notice that Dutch windmill standing on the touch line barking out orders every 30 seconds to the bewilderment of the players?

If you had a 'player of the month' who had just scored 4 goals and then in the last game created 3 goals would you move him more defensive so he does not effect the game so much?
I feel sorry for Foley (a central defensive midfielder) who is played on the wing ahead of the wingers we signed!

The home performances against Rochdale and Gillingham are not acceptable!

Is JFH the new tinkerman?

He's hardly the new tinkerman is he? He's been in charge for 34 games and Oglethorpe reckons we have only played the same side in consecutive games ONCE. Is this true?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 13, 2018, 23:06:33 pm
Rob Page was in charge for 34 games......Won 10, drew 8 and lost 16.
Hasselbaink has now been in charge for 34 games.....Won 10, drawn 9 and lost 15.

Thats progress folks!!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Stag on February 13, 2018, 23:09:38 pm
Second half was fine. Good substitutions made.



Presume you are referring to them not us?  Aryibi repeatedly skinned their full back ball...ball goes out of play ..he gets moved to left midfield ..utter chaos


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2487 on February 13, 2018, 23:13:58 pm
Just **** Hopeless


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: #Frank on February 13, 2018, 23:14:33 pm


Presume you are referring to them not us?  Aryibi repeatedly skinned their full back ball...ball goes out of play ..he gets moved to left midfield ..utter chaos

Both teams made good substitutions. Martin did a great job on Pereira.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cj on February 13, 2018, 23:17:22 pm


Presume you are referring to them not us?  Aryibi repeatedly skinned their full back ball...ball goes out of play ..he gets moved to left midfield ..utter chaos
He If we'd have stuck with Aryibi, Powell and Hilda in a three playing behind Long with JJ and Grimes holding, we might have got something from tonight.
The most inept ntfc representative on show tonight was again JFH.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: #Frank on February 13, 2018, 23:24:05 pm

The most inept ntfc representative on show tonight was again JFH.

Did you not see our bloke during the chip the ball in the skip. I split tea all down my coat because of his last effort.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: DrillingCobbler on February 13, 2018, 23:30:42 pm
It wasn't the subs in the 2nd half that annoyed me. It was the total lack of making any changes during the first half!

Like I said on the match day thread, Id have hauled Bunney off after 15 minutes and replaced him with a defender, moving Turnbull to left back. They were destroying us down his side and it was a matter of time before they scored their 2nd goal. And it was only pure luck it wasn't 3, 4 or even 5-0 at half time. They were just banging long balls towards him, over him…it was absolutely horrible to watch.

I refuse to give one tiny bit of credit for making 3 'attacking subs' in the 2nd half after we'd basically lost the game.

Tonight JFH looked way out of his depth. Its more than a concern….


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 13, 2018, 23:38:53 pm
Out thought again by the opposition and JFH had no real answer.
His message clearly isn’t getting through because I have not seen so many players look so confused since Peterborough away .
Powell looked like he had no idea and Bunney gets caught out so many times it’s untrue .
Of the new players , only Ariyibi has shown anything to be encouraged by so far .
We need to settle the formation down and pick a consistent team


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2235 on February 13, 2018, 23:52:21 pm
Quote from Jimmy tonight.
“We just can’t find the consistency at the moment and I need to put my finger on why that is. We wanted to put things right here after Rochdale and tonight simply wasn’t good enough.

I’ll put my finger on it... don’t play one up front at home, pick your best team, stick with it and maybe just **** maybe you’ll get some consistent performances!!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cj on February 13, 2018, 23:58:58 pm
Did you not see our bloke during the chip the ball in the skip. I split tea all down my coat because of his last effort.
I thought you said 78 was upstairs eating his carrot cake?..


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: #Frank on February 14, 2018, 00:14:17 am
I thought you said 78 was upstairs eating his carrot cake?..

No. I can't be sure what type of cake it was and only said it looked like carrot cake. It might have been ginger cake or parkin cake.

What type would be easier to make?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Tom on February 14, 2018, 00:17:33 am
Rob Page was in charge for 34 games......Won 10, drew 8 and lost 16.
Hasselbaink has now been in charge for 34 games.....Won 10, drawn 9 and lost 15.

Thats progress folks!!

What a terrible comparison.

Page came in and took on a team that had just walked league 2, JFH inherited utter garbage.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 14, 2018, 00:21:46 am
Nice bloke but crap Manager.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 14, 2018, 00:28:18 am
He If we'd have stuck with Aryibi, Powell and Hilda in a three playing behind Long with JJ and Grimes holding, we might have got something from tonight.
The most inept ntfc representative on show tonight was again JFH.

                                                     'IF'


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cj on February 14, 2018, 01:23:51 am
No. I can't be sure what type of cake it was and only said it looked like carrot cake. It might have been ginger cake or parkin cake.

What type would be easier to make?
We won't know the answer to that until the end of the baking season.
Keep up Frank.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2539 on February 14, 2018, 06:14:45 am
After sleeping on last nights non-performance I am just as frustrated.

I thought JFH looked like a person managing an UNDER 9's side, shouting out so many instructions, so regularly, that players have no chance to think and learn for themselves.
I wish Jimmy would sit in the dugout and let the team carry out his pre-match instructions and only occasionally tweek plans as the game unfolds NOT every 30 seconds moving players around!

Tactically I would play Foley or McWilliams with Grimes as holding midfielders and give more support to Long (or VV) with JJ , Crooks and Ariyibi...............................................and let them play a group of games together.
He seems to change the team too much dependant on the opposition instead on the emphasis on them worrying on how we play.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on February 14, 2018, 06:22:20 am
I guess every team will be playing a 3-5-2 formation against us now. This thorn in the side of his team needs to be addressed quick!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: defender on February 14, 2018, 07:28:20 am
Rob Page was in charge for 34 games......Won 10, drew 8 and lost 16.
Hasselbaink has now been in charge for 34 games.....Won 10, drawn 9 and lost 15.

Thats progress folks!! 
                   HA. HA HA. VERY GOOD.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 14, 2018, 07:45:04 am
There are plenty of comments to make about JFH's team and positional selections and constant tinkering but the one thing that is as clear as daylight is that he has to play JJOT "in the hole" behind the striker where he can challenge for the ball, set up attacks and makes runs into the opposition penalty area where he takes a lot of chances.  Why on earth JFH played JJOT in a deeper role last night completely defeats me. Foley or McWilliams could do that role if Crooks was injured which begs another question of why have Crooks on the bench if he was carrying a knock. If Buchanan had been a sub Bunney's nightmare match could and should have ended in an early bath.

I worry about JFH but I am worrying more about this fight against the drop. 


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Parklands Cobbler on February 14, 2018, 07:51:40 am
I can only echo what most of the previous comments have said re moving John Joe,Bunney who looks such a poor defender,Powell who should not be playing league football.
Going back to the game JFH played Revell right midfield,his baffling team selection,inability to change tactics quickly,in my opinion he will go down as one of our poorest ever Managers.
Whether we can stay up or get relegated I am not looking forward to next season with him in charge.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: threeinabed on February 14, 2018, 08:55:22 am
What a terrible comparison.

Page came in and took on a team that had just walked league 2, JFH inherited utter garbage.


how many of that team was page allowed to keep and play in his first game?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 14, 2018, 11:22:36 am
Before he got the job I said I was concerned that JFH had succeeded at Burton thanks to Gary Rowett laying a fantastic foundation, and had been sussed out at QPR.

I'm concerned that this may be proved to be correct..


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: SteveRiches on February 14, 2018, 12:13:21 pm
All I can say is that so far his tactical nous has proved totally naff and it's in all our interests that he gets it right asap!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 14, 2018, 12:53:27 pm
You only have to read Lovells comments from his post match interview to see the difference between the managers.

He "knew" we'd only play one up front so switched to a back 3....no point in having a full back there he said. Therefore he loaded the midfield and won the battle.

Lovell went to exploit our tactics and weaknesses....Hasselbaink looks to negate opposition strengths. He's too worried about trying to stop our opponents from playing rather than just play our own game and give THEM something to think about.

Lovell has done a good job at Gillingham....his first managerial post. Won 12 out of 25 games and only lost 5. They have only failed to score in 2 of those 25 games.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Wolvo on February 14, 2018, 13:21:30 pm
You only have to read Lovells comments from his post match interview to see the difference between the managers.

He "knew" we'd only play one up front so switched to a back 3....no point in having a full back there he said. Therefore he loaded the midfield and won the battle.

Lovell went to exploit our tactics and weaknesses....Hasselbaink looks to negate opposition strengths. He's too worried about trying to stop our opponents from playing rather than just play our own game and give THEM something to think about.

Lovell has done a good job at Gillingham....his first managerial post. Won 12 out of 25 games and only lost 5. They have only failed to score in 2 of those 25 games.

Opposition manager tries to negate our strengths and is successful. Praised for his approach.

Our manager tries to negate their strengths and is unsuccessful. Criticized for his approach.

I understand the team and manager will come under scrutiny on the back of another poor home defeat. But you have to be consistent with how you criticize managers.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 14, 2018, 13:26:21 pm
Jimmy unfortunately seems clueless most of the time and seems unwilling and inflexible to adapt.

The straight forward and correct thing to have done yesterday if van veen and crooks were both injured was just staight swaps for long and Mcwilliams.  Instead Tinkerbank tries to reiver the wheel.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 14, 2018, 13:28:45 pm
Opposition manager tries to negate our strengths and is successful. Praised for his approach.

Our manager tries to negate their strengths and is unsuccessful. Criticized for his approach.

I understand the team and manager will come under scrutiny on the back of another poor home defeat. But you have to be consistent with how you criticize managers.

Depends how you read it!! If you are calling us playing one up front a "strength" then fair enough. He knew how we'd play so worked a system to exploit that. IMO Hasselbaink looks to nullify opposition teams rather than impose on them.

4 defenders and two holding midfielders, with only one player up front, at home.....really?? What is the "strength"???


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Wolvo on February 14, 2018, 13:30:38 pm
Depends how you read it!! If you are calling us playing one up front a "strength" then fair enough. He knew how we'd play so worked a system to exploit that. IMO Hasselbaink looks to nullify opposition teams rather than impose on them.

4 defenders and two holding midfielders, with only one player up front, at home.....really?? What is the "strength"???

The strength is where the criticism lays (in my opinion). And that is with the O'Toole and Long combo.

Rochdale nullified it successfully playing 3 at the back, and it looked like Gillingham tried the same.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2235 on February 14, 2018, 14:04:56 pm
How many times did he change the players and the system around last night causing confusion amongst most on the pitch? He's so tactically brilliant its scary! 22 mins on the clock last night before our first meaningful attack, as the home side we should take the initiative early on it very rarely happens. Seven home league games lost under him now, some with his own players!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: bri77 on February 14, 2018, 14:12:04 pm
We need to get our best team picked, create our own style and stick with it. Stop focusing so much on the opposition and build on our own strengths.

I'm not calling for JFH to go or anything drastic like that but our lack of consistency is pretty much because of his constant chopping and changing.

The first half yesterday has to be as bad a half as we have had for years and only being 2 down was a miracle. Yes we got back into it in the second half but Gillingham managed to completely shut us back down and had a very comfortable last 10 / 15 minutes.

When so many of our fans only attend matches at Sixfields and haven't seen our recent away improvements how many season tickets will be renewed on 9 home defeats and a series of diabolical home performances?

 



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Battery Man on February 14, 2018, 14:20:01 pm
In my opinion JFH is still unsure of his best team and all the time he is worrying about the opposition he is never going to find it. He needs to settle on a way of playing and a team to play that way with back up players in each of the roles. That way the team will gel more quickly and we will start to see vast improvements on the pitch. If we then lose someone through injury we don't have to change things around to accomodate whoeer comes on. On paper we have a very strong squad, we just need them to be confident in the way they need to play no matter who the opposition is.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 14, 2018, 14:32:30 pm
Fundamentally, he's been financially backed like no other manager in our history and can have no excuses if he does not succeed. If we go down he'll have to go and he could not complain if he did.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 14, 2018, 14:38:13 pm
I wish he was sure of our best 11, then we could stick to it. But we're never going to have a best 11 when he's making 2/3/4 changes per game.

Is he a manager who would get a DVD through the post of our upcoming oppositions last game, get the squad together to watch the DVD and then look at the strengths of the opposition and primarily look to counter that.

Whereas, with the squad he has at his disposal he should be looking at the DVD, identifying weaknesses and going after them.

He's too negative IMO......

Plus...the whole "wait till he's got his own players" thing......well didn't he bring in 9 newbies?  He only started three of them last night (O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull) with another three brought on as subs (Perreira, Ariyibi, Mathis) with 3 more (Facey, Bridge and van Veen) not featuring at all.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Battery Man on February 14, 2018, 14:41:20 pm
To be fair to him of the 3 that didn't feature, 2 of them were out injured. But yes he does now have his own squad and I would hope he will start to play a settled team. I am a great believer in play to your strengths and let the opposition worry about you not the other way round.
Time will tell if JFH is the right man, I hope he is but still not sure.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Wolvo on February 14, 2018, 14:45:04 pm

Plus...the whole "wait till he's got his own players" thing......well didn't he bring in 9 newbies?  He only started three of them last night (O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull) with another three brought on as subs (Perreira, Ariyibi, Mathis) with 3 more (Facey, Bridge and van Veen) not featuring at all.

So every new player (who is fit and available) played, except Bridge?

JFH is a monster.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: MKMal on February 14, 2018, 15:06:21 pm
I don't believe Crooks was injured or he wouldn't have been on the bench. I think JFH was protecting him from the card trigger happy referee who sent him off earlier in the season


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 14, 2018, 15:12:19 pm
                   HA. HA HA. VERY GOOD.
Ahh there you are Baldy's been worried sick..


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 14, 2018, 15:15:47 pm
I don't believe Crooks was injured or he wouldn't have been on the bench. I think JFH was protecting him from the card trigger happy referee who sent him off earlier in the season

Shame he didn't leave Pereira on the bench as well then.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 14, 2018, 15:22:04 pm
I wish he was sure of our best 11, then we could stick to it. But we're never going to have a best 11 when he's making 2/3/4 changes per game.

Is he a manager who would get a DVD through the post of our upcoming oppositions last game, get the squad together to watch the DVD and then look at the strengths of the opposition and primarily look to counter that.

Whereas, with the squad he has at his disposal he should be looking at the DVD, identifying weaknesses and going after them.

He's too negative IMO......


I have to agree with this, sets his teams up to stop the opposition firstly. CW, however was the complete opposite to this - go for it and let them try to find a way to stop us. I know which management style I prefer.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 14, 2018, 15:27:59 pm
You only have to read Lovells comments from his post match interview to see the difference between the managers.

He "knew" we'd only play one up front so switched to a back 3....no point in having a full back there he said. Therefore he loaded the midfield and won the battle.


Since when do we play great emphasis on hindsight comments from an opposing manager? He "knew" how we would play; well the experts didn't for start. It was only fairly late on did we learn of Crooks and KvV injuries. Even so, Crooks appeared on the bench - kidology perhaps. The likelihood is that Lovell may well guess that Long would be up front, but that is !guesswork'.Furthermore, did Lovell know that JJOT would play in a withdrawn role?  However, I do agree that in this instance that JFH got tactics and selection badly wrong.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 14, 2018, 15:40:32 pm
 However, I do agree that in this instance that JJOT got tactics and selection badly wrong.

Did anyone else realise that JJOT was now player-manager?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 14, 2018, 15:41:31 pm
Jimmy and his constant tinkering is beyond me. I got shot down when I mentioned this at the start of his time here but now most are saying the same thing.

You can be sure, come Saturday, once again there will be at least 2 or 3 changes. The players must wonder what the hell is going on. He is too set on playing one up front, Mathis came on and where was he playing? Behind the front man in more of a midfield role, I felt sorry for the lad.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 14, 2018, 16:34:01 pm
Since when do we play great emphasis on hindsight comments from an opposing manager? He "knew" how we would play; well the experts didn't for start. It was only fairly late on did we learn of Crooks and KvV injuries. Even so, Crooks appeared on the bench - kidology perhaps. The likelihood is that Lovell may well guess that Long would be up front, but that is !guesswork'.Furthermore, did Lovell know that JJOT would play in a withdrawn role?  However, I do agree that in this instance that JJOT got tactics and selection badly wrong.

We've played 1 up top for the last umpteen games, usually to great effect in a 4-4-1-1. Whether KVV or Long played is academic.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 14, 2018, 16:47:09 pm
 However, I do agree that in this instance that JJOT got tactics and selection badly wrong.
  ;D Fud


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 14, 2018, 16:49:04 pm
Did anyone else realise that JJOT was now player-manager?

 ;D


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 14, 2018, 16:50:12 pm
The one up front thing to me is weird. The Longmeister and KVV are both decent give them a chance to form a partnership.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cj on February 14, 2018, 17:06:29 pm
So every new player (who is fit and available) played, except Bridge?

JFH is a monster.
Which begs the question.
Why did JFH put an 'injured' midfielder on the bench and leave 'one of his own' midfielders out of the eighteen?
And if Crooks isn't injured, why didn't he play him from the off, or bring him on after 15 mins when it became apparent we were being overrun?



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: bungle on February 14, 2018, 18:12:59 pm
We've played 1 up top for the last umpteen games, usually to great effect in a 4-4-1-1.

This. Those railing against playing one up front seem to forget that everyone from Barcelona to Man City have been doing this for years. Even the great Chrissy Wilder played one up front for the majority of our title winning season. Face it: we would have lost yesterday if we'd played 4-4-2, probably by a greater margin.

As others have said, last night exposed two issues:

1. Tinkering
2. Lack of a genuine defensive midfielder

The more extreme voices on here seem to be forgetting that we've got 10 points from the last six games, which puts us 7th in the form table. JFH appears to have stumbled on a successful system: 4-4-1-1 with JJOT behind the striker working as an unorthodox target man/number 10.

The problem yesterday is that with Crooks out he had so little faith in his other options in central midfield that he decided to move JJOT back there, and in the process compromised the whole system.

As others have said, he needs to stick to the successful system, make like-for-like swaps wherever possible and figure out a way to play against 3-5-2.

We all know that Bunney is decent going forward but vulnerable defensively. It's worth having him in the team for his crossing alone - he's already got a few assists for us, including the penalty at AFCW. What needs to happen is for a genuine defensive midfielder like McWilliams to be played so that he can cover the gaps left by Bunney's forward runs.

JFH has made mistakes, but he's not nearly as bad as some of the knee jerkers on here would have you believe.




Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2487 on February 14, 2018, 18:14:40 pm
McWilliams is a very very odd situation. Can't get on the pitch!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 14, 2018, 18:53:58 pm
He clearly doesn't trust some of the players at his disposal, a bit of a worry when he's just signed nine!

As others have said, if you have an injury DO NOT upset a winning formula. Either Sam Foley or Shaun McWilliams should have slotted in for Matt Crooks.   


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: defender on February 15, 2018, 08:10:34 am

  Can we PLEASE GET A MANAGER WHO CAN GET US TOL DEFEND! IF YOU CAN STOP TEAMS SCORING, YOU ONLY NEED ONE GOAL TO WIN.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: SteveRiches on February 15, 2018, 09:37:19 am
In news today he bemoans the lack of consistency of his players - but he's the one constantly tinkering with tactics and who he plays where! He really does need to seek help.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on February 15, 2018, 09:42:45 am
McWilliams is a very very odd situation. Can't get on the pitch!

Couldn't agree more - young lad with bags of talent & needs to be playing


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 15, 2018, 10:13:14 am
Shame he didn't leave Pereira on the bench as well then.

Berto will turn games for us - he wasn’t so far off last Tuesday!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Baldy on February 15, 2018, 10:35:41 am
  Can we PLEASE GET A MANAGER WHO CAN GET US TOL DEFEND! IF YOU CAN STOP TEAMS SCORING, YOU ONLY NEED ONE GOAL TO WIN.
defender!!!! We've been worried sick!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 15, 2018, 15:30:22 pm
Berto will turn games for us - he wasn’t so far off last Tuesday!

I was referring to the fact that he was sent off.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Irchy cob on February 15, 2018, 15:47:34 pm
Nice to see that Jimmy is blaming everyone but himself for Tuesday’s abomination - both the players and supporters seem to be getting the brunt whereas nothing is being said about the tactical naivety that contributed greatly to the performance and defeat.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 15, 2018, 17:14:16 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/tinkering-too-much-cobblers-boss-hasselbaink-says-he-should-have-made-more-changes-for-gills-clash-1-8380222


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 15, 2018, 17:40:17 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/tinkering-too-much-cobblers-boss-hasselbaink-says-he-should-have-made-more-changes-for-gills-clash-1-8380222

This is what's worrying he seems oblivious to it being a problem. When crooks was not fit the obvious thing would be to straight swap for Mcwilliams but he dosent recognise this instead in moving o toole changes the whole set up.

Really worrying this for me, almost on a worrying level with page and Edinburgh. We all of the ground can see it, but he can't questions have to start being asked


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cj on February 15, 2018, 18:26:16 pm
So if I've read that correctly, Jimmy thinks he kept things more or less as they were on tuesday from the Wombles game because he went with his heart, thinking they did so well that they deserved another opportunity, when in his head and with hindsight, he now realises he should have made wholesale changes from the Wombles game.
Not sure too many are gonna agree with that.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest47 on February 15, 2018, 18:29:36 pm
With Crookes injured, putting JJOT in a position he's played virtually all his career with The Cobblers makes perfect sense to me.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 15, 2018, 19:16:24 pm
With Crookes injured, putting JJOT in a position he's played virtually all his career with The Cobblers makes perfect sense to me.

When he's been so good and league 1 player of the month playing further up the pitch and scoring goals!!

Ontop of this you have a natural replacement for crooks sitting waiting for game time in Mcwilliams


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Irchy cob on February 15, 2018, 19:29:37 pm
I haven’t got any issues with the lineups he selects - it’s his prerogative and he sees them in training every day after all - it’s the almost complete lack of ability to react effectively to adversity during games that worries me. What was stopping him from just switching jjot and foley after 20 odd minutes when it was quite clear that we were getting stuffed?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest47 on February 15, 2018, 19:30:15 pm
When he's been so good and league 1 player of the month playing further up the pitch and scoring goals!!

Ontop of this you have a natural replacement for crooks sitting waiting for game time in Mcwilliams

What was wrong when he played as a defensive midfielder - was that a massive mistake by Wilder? We all love McWilliams but none of us know if he would have been ready and able to play Crook's role.
Hindsight is great but I'm going to give the benefit to JFH for his selection.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2235 on February 15, 2018, 19:35:12 pm
With Crookes injured, putting JJOT in a position he's played virtually all his career with The Cobblers makes perfect sense to me.
Sorry Alton, not if it meant playing Foley off Long. He should have started Foley or McWilliams in place of Crooks.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 15, 2018, 19:53:53 pm
What was wrong when he played as a defensive midfielder - was that a massive mistake by Wilder? We all love McWilliams but none of us know if he would have been ready and able to play Crook's role.
Hindsight is great but I'm going to give the benefit to JFH for his selection.

I'm not saying it right or wrong mate, but with the options avaliable and given how well o toole has been playing I would have played Mcwilliams  (1st option), (Foley 2nd option) in that holding position before sacraficing jj from just behind long. That is just my opinion.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest3181 on February 15, 2018, 20:34:43 pm
All is good.  Respectable finish this season.  Big clear-out come the summer, and start again next season.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest47 on February 15, 2018, 22:08:38 pm
I'm not saying it right or wrong mate, but with the options avaliable and given how well o toole has been playing I would have played Mcwilliams  (1st option), (Foley 2nd option) in that holding position before sacraficing jj from just behind long. That is just my opinion.

But when did McWilliams last start a game for us?
We were overrun in the first 20+ minutes by a team where everything went right for them and I'm not sure any tinkering with personnel would have changed that. It happens in football, enjoy it when it's us but don't crucify the manager when it happens to us.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest3040 on February 15, 2018, 22:23:29 pm
Things went right for them because we stood off them let them play and they were better than us simple as that saying it happens is only because we let it, the clueless jfh did'nt jnow what to do hence constantly  moving playets to no effect.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 15, 2018, 22:25:51 pm
This is what's worrying he seems oblivious to it being a problem. When crooks was not fit the obvious thing would be to straight swap for Mcwilliams but he dosent recognise this instead in moving o toole changes the whole set up.

Really worrying this for me, almost on a worrying level with page and Edinburgh. We all of the ground can see it, but he can't questions have to start being asked


Thats three flipping worries in short message  - you appear to be a worrier!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 15, 2018, 22:28:56 pm
What was wrong when he played as a defensive midfielder - was that a massive mistake by Wilder? We all love McWilliams but none of us know if he would have been ready and able to play Crook's role.
Hindsight is great but I'm going to give the benefit to JFH for his selection.

+ So do I , I like JFH in any case.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: defender on February 16, 2018, 07:38:22 am
Ahh there you are Baldy's been worried sick..

       I'm soirry  have beenb so absent. my computer has been playing up. Mind you iot is very old, I think HENRY THE THE 8TH USED IT TO FIND HIS NEXT WIFE.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblertone on February 16, 2018, 08:15:01 am
+ So do I , I like JFH in any case.

I like him but popularity doesn't win points. He has certainly had more slack and backing than any previous Cobblers manager in my lifetime. One of the benefits of being a famous top ex-player I guess, at a time we are prepared to splash the cash.
People talk about giving managers time...he needs to take note and give some players time! A symptom of having such a large squad is definitely the ability to tinker, whether needed or not. He's had his roll of the dice, so hopefully we can regain our recent better form and forget the two home horrors.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Wolvo on February 16, 2018, 09:16:30 am
I'm not saying it right or wrong mate, but with the options avaliable and given how well o toole has been playing I would have played Mcwilliams  (1st option), (Foley 2nd option) in that holding position before sacraficing jj from just behind long. That is just my opinion.

I know it's a game of opinions, but I'd be interested to see why you'd play Foley in the middle ahead of O'Toole? O'Toole was in League 2 team of the year in this position, and probably our star player in the same position last season.

Foley has looked far too lightweight for me in the middle. Seems to lose most 50/50s, poor positional play and doesn't offer much in ability. I personally think his work rate and stamina is definitely better appreciated offering balance on the wing.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 09:29:48 am
Gillingham are a much better side than Wimbledon and that showed on Tuesday. However, as Gills manager said post match he knew exactly how we would be set up (JFH very predictable if his formations?) and they took full advantage. We were murdered in the first half and it could easily have been 0-4 at the break.  It was obvious to us in the stands within the first 10 minutes that our line up was wrong and critical to that we need JJOT in the hole where he can challenge and win balls, lay the ball off and make runs into the penalty area.  JJOT for all his attributes is not the quickest and playing in a defensive midfield role against fast physically strong Gills front men he struggled badly. He was not the only one but JJOT is our key player.  JFH should have reacted quickly and moved JJOT into the hole and either put Foley there or brought on McWilliams in place of Foley. It was poor management.  Add to that having Crooks sitting on the bench when he was said to be injured was a complete waste of time. Buchanan should have been available to replace Bunney who had a terrible match.  Again, poor management.

I want JFH to do well but I have to comment that so far not so good is something on an understatement.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 16, 2018, 10:00:34 am
I know it's a game of opinions, but I'd be interested to see why you'd play Foley in the middle ahead of O'Toole? O'Toole was in League 2 team of the year in this position, and probably our star player in the same position last season.
Foley has looked far too lightweight for me in the middle. Seems to lose most 50/50s, poor positional play and doesn't offer much in ability. I personally think his work rate and stamina is definitely better appreciated offering balance on the wing.

For me it is not playing Foley ahead of JJOT, but JJOT has been so outstanding in behind Long (winning player of the month) that we should keep him there. Also, he hasn't played in the middle of the park for a long time now, still doesn't look 100% fit to me and it showed against the Gills midfield when he was put in there.

Foley has a much higher work rate and is not afraid to get stuck in either, so should be ideally suited. I for one would rather see McWilliams played in the middle though.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 10:12:20 am
At it again I see, Everbrite. I want to see JFH do well but it doesn't follow that he is doing well.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 16, 2018, 10:32:21 am
At it again I see, Everbrite. I want to see JFH do well but it doesn't follow that he is doing well.

I know it’s all about opinions, but why don’t you just get off his back. You are constantly ‘at it again ‘ with JFH.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 10:45:28 am
Absolute rubbish, Everbrite. Why you set yourself up on this site as a modern day Praetorian Guard for NTFC/JFH I don't know but football is a matter of opinions and best you learn to live with these things. Not much point in this site otherwise.  I am sure JFH has broad shoulders.

My opinions are just that.  Look at this thread on JFH and you will find plenty of others expressing a similar point of view. 


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2487 on February 16, 2018, 11:32:01 am
It's also the beauty of a football forum, difference in opinions and healthy discussions.

It would be different if Vintage was at games chanting at JFH constantly.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Quintonside on February 16, 2018, 11:51:05 am
What i find amusing is he gets berated for changing the team and not playing crooks.

at the same time we had a thread running, saying who should we drop Grimes or Crooks?

I listened to his reasoning for dropping JJOT back in there, and i agree he probably is the best player to play in that deep role in Crooks' place.  Were the problem lies is that although that is the case, McWilliams/poole/foley in the deep role,  is a better option than foley in the 10 role. 

I don't mind him changing the team week to week, because with the exception of JJOT and Taylor, no one seems to be able to string together two good performance in a row.

My issue is..

decide where Foley's best position is and play him there or don't play him at all. same with Hoskins


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Wolvo on February 16, 2018, 12:10:22 pm
What i find amusing is he gets berated for changing the team and not playing crooks.

at the same time we had a thread running, saying who should we drop Grimes or Crooks?

I listened to his reasoning for dropping JJOT back in there, and i agree he probably is the best player to play in that deep role in Crooks' place.  Were the problem lies is that although that is the case, McWilliams/poole/foley in the deep role,  is a better option than foley in the 10 role. 

Interesting points. Especially considering we didn't concede once we moved Foley away from the central position, and actually took the game to them (albeit, briefly) once Hilda took the no. 10 position.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 16, 2018, 12:30:33 pm
Absolute rubbish, Everbrite. Why you set yourself up on this site as a modern day Praetorian Guard for NTFC/JFH I don't know but football is a matter of opinions and best you learn to live with these things. Not much point in this site otherwise.  I am sure JFH has broad shoulders.

My opinions are just that.  Look at this thread on JFH and you will find plenty of others expressing a similar point of view. 

The trouble is that anybody who dares to criticise your opinion of JFH you fly into a rage throwing false accusations into the bargain. You are clearly the one who cannot abide any opinion other than your own on JFH.
I don’t do mob rule which you appear to rely on.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 13:53:32 pm
What are you talking about "mob rule", Everbrite? This is a forum for opinions and within the bounds of not being libellous views can and should be freely expressed.  If I recall, about 2,000 of our home support were voicing an opinion at half-time on Tuesday on what they has seen which makes the comments on here very tame.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 14:16:23 pm
I know it's a game of opinions, but I'd be interested to see why you'd play Foley in the middle ahead of O'Toole? O'Toole was in League 2 team of the year in this position, and probably our star player in the same position last season.

Foley has looked far too lightweight for me in the middle. Seems to lose most 50/50s, poor positional play and doesn't offer much in ability. I personally think his work rate and stamina is definitely better appreciated offering balance on the wing.

Really just to keep o toole where he has been playing and is most effective in my opinion. To be honest him playing just behind the front man has been the biggest cog in making us work of the last few weeks. I'd have played Poole holding if it meant leaving j j where he was.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 14:18:21 pm
For me it is not playing Foley ahead of JJOT, but JJOT has been so outstanding in behind Long (winning player of the month) that we should keep him there. Also, he hasn't played in the middle of the park for a long time now, still doesn't look 100% fit to me and it showed against the Gills midfield when he was put in there.

Foley has a much higher work rate and is not afraid to get stuck in either, so should be ideally suited. I for one would rather see McWilliams played in the middle though.

What I was trying to say but put far better


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 14:19:57 pm
I know it’s all about opinions, but why don’t you just get off his back. You are constantly ‘at it again ‘ with JFH.

Maybe just because he deserves some criticism nevers!!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 16, 2018, 15:17:57 pm
What are you talking about "mob rule", Everbrite? This is a forum for opinions and within the bounds of not being libellous views can and should be freely expressed.  If I recall, about 2,000 of our home support were voicing an opinion at half-time on Tuesday on what they has seen which makes the comments on here very tame.

Mob rule used as an adjective:  :) You do get het up quickly!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 16, 2018, 15:26:52 pm
Really just to keep o toole where he has been playing and is most effective in my opinion. To be honest him playing just behind the front man has been the biggest cog in making us work of the last few weeks. I'd have played Poole holding if it meant leaving j j where he was.

Poole was not available apparently. You appear to comment in the past tense? If so your suggestion may not be relevant. Might be ok on Saturday?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 16, 2018, 15:33:04 pm
Maybe just because he deserves some criticism nevers!!

Of course he does after last Tuesday! I prefer not go out of my way in criticizing him at every convenient opportunity.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on February 16, 2018, 15:42:43 pm
Not het up at all Everbrite. But let's just leave our little tiff with an acceptance that this is now JFH's side and he will be be judged accordingly.  I would only add that Facey looks to be an excellent signing and I think it fair to say the jury is out on the rest, although I am hopeful about van Vaan.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Quintonside on February 16, 2018, 15:59:12 pm
Because KVV was injured he had to put Mathis on bench, which meant another loan player had to miss out. As Barnett is fit, Poole missed out.  Was that not the reason?

No issue this week as Berto is suspended


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: barton cobbler on February 16, 2018, 16:08:45 pm
Surely, if he's not in the team, Poole should be on the bench every time, he's a much better player than Barnett and can also play at full back and in midfield, so he is effectively covering 3 positions.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 17, 2018, 10:14:13 am
Not het up at all Everbrite. But let's just leave our little tiff with an acceptance that this is now JFH's side and he will be be judged accordingly.  I would only add that Facey looks to be an excellent signing and I think it fair to say the jury is out on the rest, although I am hopeful about van Vaan.
It’s early yet but I would question whether JFH recruitment is any better than JED’s.
Some of JED’s signings have been very good - Taylor , Ingram , Grimes , Crooks (?) Long, Pierre ((?). In amongst a few duds .
Let’s see how the likes of Bunney , Mathis , Berto and Turnbull compare . Facey looks decent though and Van Veen is a proven performer . McGugan has already failed .


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 17, 2018, 10:32:01 am
It’s early yet but I would question whether JFH recruitment is any better than JED’s.
Some of JED’s signings have been very good - Taylor , Ingram , Grimes , Crooks (?) Long, Pierre ((?). In amongst a few duds .
Let’s see how the likes of Bunney , Mathis , Berto and Turnbull compare . Facey looks decent though and Van Veen is a proven performer . McGugan has already failed .


 ;D


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 18, 2018, 09:45:27 am
Bunney was poor again against Scunny . He was pushed back and didn’t get forward once . He was slightly ezxposed with Ariyibi in front of him and up against Holmes who is a quality player .
Cross after cross came in from their right .
Serious question marks over Bunney and Turnbull for me .
Turnbull just doesn’t look strong enough and blunders .
I’m not sure about some of these January dealings and I’m saying it now .
Berto also looks questionable to me and Mathis is not in any way a challenge to Long .


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: DrillingCobbler on February 18, 2018, 13:09:05 pm
Id be looking to play the same back 4 as we did at Blackburn and Bradford as soon as is possible again..…Turnbull (lb),Poole, Taylor and Facey. We looked solid at the back (Blackburn), more so than in any recent times.

I can't help but think that teams are targeting Bunney, defensively he's a massive weak link and was so bad on Tuesday night Im surprised that JFH didn't drop him or move him further forward like he did at Blackburn.

What we are saying is precisely what the bulk of the Rochdale fans said on social media when we bought him. Good going forward but terrible defensively! I thought that when we played MK..wingers just walk past him! And his positional sense is shocking as well.

We are back to shipping in 2 goals a game or when we don't its because we've got lucky. Wimbledon aside, we've been heavily relying on our goal keeper and poor finishing from the opposition.

Id also like to see Keen played in John Joe's position, with the great man dropping back a bit. But until Keen is fit then that cannot happen! (like it did v Gillingham).



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Irchy cob on February 18, 2018, 15:11:59 pm
Id be looking to play the same back 4 as we did at Blackburn and Bradford as soon as is possible again..…Turnbull (lb),Poole, Taylor and Facey. We looked solid at the back (Blackburn), more so than in any recent times.

I can't help but think that teams are targeting Bunney, defensively he's a massive weak link and was so bad on Tuesday night Im surprised that JFH didn't drop him or move him further forward like he did at Blackburn.

What we are saying is precisely what the bulk of the Rochdale fans said on social media when we bought him. Good going forward but terrible defensively! I thought that when we played MK..wingers just walk past him! And his positional sense is shocking as well.

We are back to shipping in 2 goals a game or when we don't its because we've got lucky. Wimbledon aside, we've been heavily relying on our goal keeper and poor finishing from the opposition.

Id also like to see Keen played in John Joe's position, with the great man dropping back a bit. But until Keen is fit then that cannot happen! (like it did v Gillingham).


I agree with this, especially for away games it would make us a lot more secure defensively - of course it’s all dependant on the fitness/availability of Poole. For home games where the onus is on us to attack/break down the opposition Jimmy’s going to have to come up with an effective method pretty sharpish.  It’ll be interesting to see if oxford set up like Rochdale and Gillingham did - in fact I’d be amazed if they don’t provided they’ve scouted us properly. It’s getting to the point where I’d suggest Buchanan getting a recall wouldn’t be a bad idea given Bunney’s struggles but as Bunney is a JFH signing I can’t see that happening.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 18, 2018, 15:14:58 pm

Id also like to see Keen played in John Joe's position, with the great man dropping back a bit. But until Keen is fit then that cannot happen! (like it did v Gillingham).


Keen? You mean Van Veen.

Also, why would you push JJOT back into midfield when he's been so effective further forward? Just don't understand that.



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Irchy cob on February 18, 2018, 15:34:18 pm
Keen? You mean Van Veen.

Also, why would you push JJOT back into midfield when he's been so effective further forward? Just don't understand that.


I’d echo that - it’s a case of if it ain’t broken it doesn’t need fixing, the case in point being gillingham. My only concern is that the temptation is there - when everyone is fit - for jimmy to try and shoehorn players in when he’d be better off selecting a balanced team.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: exiledinspace on February 28, 2018, 09:02:36 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Battery Man on February 28, 2018, 09:17:10 am
I agree exiled, I think we need to give Jimmy a full season next season to see what he can do, you could see on Saturday in the first half that there is a team in there starting to emerge. But Jimmy must also understand how frustrating it is for supporters when the change was made that looked like one of our better players was being taken off when we wanted to push for a win. I realise that we don't always know about fitness levels and injuries but it just seemed that removing Hoskins for Pereira would have been a sign of intent that we wanted the 3 points. That said, I think given the time and backing Jimmy will get us where we want to be, aiming for top end of league one and pushing for promotion to the Championship. The intent clearly shown by the board in January is a first for us and I don't think that sort of money would have been shelled out if they didn't have faith in JFH and his plans for the club. Lets hope they follow that up in the next few months with some great ground expansion plans and we can live the dream that we all want for our club.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 28, 2018, 09:40:45 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.

One of Football's artists? All I want is a manager who can get his team to do the basics i.e. defend properly and play with a clear game plan. With a few exceptions, both of these seem to be beyond JFH's ability so far.

"Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here." - Are you seriously saying that if JFH takes us down to L2 despite being financially backed like no other manager in our entire history, he'd have a queue of suitors for his services?? I'd say it'd be the nail in the coffin of his managerial career.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 28, 2018, 09:49:17 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.
Direct question for you :
How many games have you been to this season ?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2235 on February 28, 2018, 09:57:26 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.
Any club in the Championship? I suggest you’re the f***wit!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest3040 on February 28, 2018, 10:00:15 am
One of football's artists what a joke, have you watched any games since he took over.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 10:00:30 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the playoffs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.

Good comments Exile - brave too as at least two or three on here will not be able to accept an opinion which is radically different from theirs! It will be anathema to them! Actually the away support was very supportive for JFH at Skunny so would not include them as the basket cases. Your comment that JFH is an 'artist' is a wee bit fanciful, but I get your point.
Happy to support you on this!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 10:05:56 am
Direct question for you :
How many games have you been to this season ?

This is No 1  ;)

It doesn't really matter how many games you go to; you are still entitled (I am reliably informed) to an opinion. We all on here, must learn to respect others opinions however wonky.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 28, 2018, 10:16:23 am
It doesn't really matter how many games you go to; you are still entitled (I am reliably informed) to an opinion. We all on here, must learn to respect others opinions however wonky.

Glad to see you are finally getting the message.  ::)


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 10:22:25 am
Glad to see you are finally getting the message.  ::)

No need for sarcastic comments


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on February 28, 2018, 10:32:22 am
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.

Totally understand the sentiment but disagree on many points - of course a manager merry go round rarely solves anything, sure JFH warrants a full season to ultimately be judged and personally I have never booed players of managers however dire they have been (in my opinion) - however I, like other reasonable posters can (without being abusive) post an opinion on what I see and to refer to others as brainless fuckwits doesn't add to the credibility of your opinion.

So why are we critical?

Most reasonable fans expected, not a play off place but a more comfortable mid table position - matched by improving performances after the transfer window - early days but not happening at the moment coupled with the entertainment value which (as QPR fans warned us) is dire - I guess he was experimenting his artistic flair there as well!
Despite your prose - I don't want an artist as a manager of my league 1 side - I want a manager that has some leadership capabilities and some tactical know how - currently I see neither (and could write many paragraphs on what I do see on match days).
To say there are no more Chris Wilders is nonsense - of course there is (otherwise football dies) but you need to be both luck and usually patient to benefit from such talent - which is really your point on JFH but it's a risk and my opinion is it's a bad one from what I see - but a bit like redevelopment I can't influence it so he and the team have my support but it does not stop me or others expressing observations and concerns.  


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 28, 2018, 10:42:39 am
No need for sarcastic comments

Should I just stick to abusive ones instead?  ;)

I agree with some of what is posted here, we will have Jimmy until the end of the season for sure. A change now is not going to help us in any way in my opinion, we are treading the line at the moment but just a couple of wins could put us a lot closer to survival (which is my only expectation for this season).

Hopefully he keeps us up and gets next season to show us how good a manager he really is, especially with the money he has spent on players. The problem for me is that the majority of the the football has been dire, coupled with really odd tactical substitutions and formations, as well as the results being bad.

I don't agree that the majority of supporters are not behind him and team, I think other than a few groans and shouts during the game, most try and give their vocal support in a positive way. If they want to boo at half-time/full-time then it is their perogative and I don't think JFH or the players should be calling them out on it.

Wasn't at the Oxford game as I was on holiday, but will be interesting to see the response at the next home game.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 11:52:16 am
Should I just stick to abusive ones instead? 


Please identify any abusive comments (presumably by me?) - if that is what you mean!

Frankly, I don't follow the above comment and am compelled to ask 'what exactly is your problem'?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Coolcat on February 28, 2018, 12:13:51 pm
Any club in the Championship? I suggest you’re the f***wit!
TBF, he said any club 'out of the Championship' (sic). Think that can clearly be taken as 'outside of the Championship'...though I'm not sure I entirely agree with that view!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Coolcat on February 28, 2018, 12:24:46 pm
Glad to see you are finally getting the message.  ::)
Interesting that some of you hold the view that an opinion of a 'fan' who hardly ever watches 'his' club is of equal value to that of one who travels everywhere, just as NTFC are holding their annual 'Fan of the Year' award...to be won for the seventh consecutive year by Lee Geary, on his 3,852 consecutive game - or something!  ;D

Maybe such opinions are equally valid - fair enough! Interesting also I think, that when returning from Blackburn last month, West Ham fans we spoke to have Away Season tickets, followed by travelling priority points to ensure tickets.

Whilst that in itself doesn't necessarily address opinion validity, it does directly counter the argument I read on here and elsewhere that going to one game a season makes you equally as much of a fan as those travelling over land & sea...doesn't does it, clearly!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 12:40:29 pm
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.


No offence here, but what you have put is utter tripe in the main!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 12:45:33 pm
Good comments Exile - brave too as at least two or three on here will not be able to accept an opinion which is radically different from theirs! It will be anathema to them! Actually the away support was very supportive for JFH at Skunny so would not include them as the basket cases. Your comment that JFH is an 'artist' is a wee bit fanciful, but I get your point.
Happy to support you on this!

HAHAHAHAHA!!! this thread is hillarious!



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 12:47:20 pm
Totally understand the sentiment but disagree on many points - of course a manager merry go round rarely solves anything, sure JFH warrants a full season to ultimately be judged and personally I have never booed players of managers however dire they have been (in my opinion) - however I, like other reasonable posters can (without being abusive) post an opinion on what I see and to refer to others as brainless fuckwits doesn't add to the credibility of your opinion.

So why are we critical?

Most reasonable fans expected, not a play off place but a more comfortable mid table position - matched by improving performances after the transfer window - early days but not happening at the moment coupled with the entertainment value which (as QPR fans warned us) is dire - I guess he was experimenting his artistic flair there as well!
Despite your prose - I don't want an artist as a manager of my league 1 side - I want a manager that has some leadership capabilities and some tactical know how - currently I see neither (and could write many paragraphs on what I do see on match days).
To say there are no more Chris Wilders is nonsense - of course there is (otherwise football dies) but you need to be both luck and usually patient to benefit from such talent - which is really your point on JFH but it's a risk and my opinion is it's a bad one from what I see - but a bit like redevelopment I can't influence it so he and the team have my support but it does not stop me or others expressing observations and concerns.  

+1


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 12:58:09 pm
TBF, he said any club 'out of the Championship' (sic). Think that can clearly be taken as 'outside of the Championship'...though I'm not sure I entirely agree with that view!

Well picked up, always pays to read the comment first before reaching for the keyboard. TBF to the poster who made the assumption, Exiles post was cleverly worded  - pitfalls for the unwary/hasty.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: exiledinspace on February 28, 2018, 13:13:34 pm
One of football's artists what a joke, have you watched any games since he took over.

I agree, seeing it with your own eyes is most important, but then we could all see it in a different perspective anyway! Seen over 500 games, now I live to far away but my son goes to most games home and away and I see the full game online.

Compared to the brains here, Jimmy is an artist, he'll see football in another perspective. The people who have taught him his profession, his mentors and the contacts he will have are simply too important to ignore and on a different level. He will see the game faster than any of our team and he's probably pushing too much into their smaller football brains.

The major question, as with all good tutors, is can he relay that information and inspire? The jury's obviously out, but he's smart enough and with experience he'll make it somewhere.

Time to be bloody patient for once you grumpy fuckers. Would you want Steve Evans?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 13:14:23 pm
HAHAHAHAHA!!! this thread is hillarious!


On your lunch break?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 28, 2018, 13:19:02 pm
This is No 1  ;)

It doesn't really matter how many games you go to; you are still entitled (I am reliably informed) to an opinion. We all on here, must learn to respect others opinions however wonky.
If you don’t go to the matches and all you ever do is watch the goals on tv and read a Chron report - your Of course entitles to an opinion- but when you spout complete rubbish as this contributor has done , it is going to be taken less seriously .
Of course , not everyone can make the games which is completely fair enough - but don’t come out with complete rubbish if that’s the case


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on February 28, 2018, 13:25:47 pm
I agree, seeing it with your own eyes is most important, but then we could all see it in a different perspective anyway! Seen over 500 games, now I live to far away but my son goes to most games home and away and I see the full game online.

Compared to the brains here, Jimmy is an artist, he'll see football in another perspective. The people who have taught him his profession, his mentors and the contacts he will have are simply too important to ignore and on a different level. He will see the game faster than any of our team and he's probably pushing too much into their smaller football brains.

The major question, as with all good tutors, is can he relay that information and inspire? The jury's obviously out, but he's smart enough and with experience he'll make it somewhere.

Time to be bloody patient for once you grumpy fuckers. Would you want Steve Evans?

I am actually not sure if you are on a wind up here with your JFH worshiping - yes you might just have a point re his football brain over posters on this board but the comment re our team is both disrespectful & ignorant - just because someone has been a top premiership player does not confer on them greatness in either footballing brains or indeed ability in coaching - in fact looking at the most successful coaches overall - a very significant majority were decidedly average players.



Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 28, 2018, 13:57:47 pm
'what exactly is your problem'?

 ;D


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: guest2235 on February 28, 2018, 13:59:02 pm
Putting some of the various statistics banded about on here aside for just a moment, I think it's high time every supporter got behind Jimmy.

Judging by comments I think a few expected us to be chipping away at the play-offs after signing almost a new team but staying in the division is the only aim this season. Performances may have been disappointing thus far, but a new team is slowly emerging and the manager is learning all the time.

You have to understand JFH is one of footballs artists and he has the temperament to match, he is probably asking a little more than the team at his disposal can cope with right now but he needs to experiment now. He wants it to work more than anyone here and his annoyance is born out of frustration.

Some Sheffield fans called for Wilder to go after a slow start, many more Bristol called for Lee Johnsons head too. Changing managers may inject a short term boost but it's proved to make negligible difference in the long run.

Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship, irrespective of what he achieves here. There are no more Wilders out there, no more miracle appointments and given time we may have the right man already in place.

For once you brainless fuckwits give him time, support and lots of love. If you want the performances to improve, shut the noisy ones up and chant his name, make him feel special again and he'll respond.
'Jimmy would walk into any vacancy out of the Championship' Can you clear this up, did you mean outside of the Championship?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 28, 2018, 14:07:25 pm
Interesting that some of you hold the view that an opinion of a 'fan' who hardly ever watches 'his' club is of equal value to that of one who travels everywhere, just as NTFC are holding their annual 'Fan of the Year' award...to be won for the seventh consecutive year by Lee Geary, on his 3,852 consecutive game - or something!  ;D
Maybe such opinions are equally valid - fair enough! Interesting also I think, that when returning from Blackburn last month, West Ham fans we spoke to have Away Season tickets, followed by travelling priority points to ensure tickets.
Whilst that in itself doesn't necessarily address opinion validity, it does directly counter the argument I read on here and elsewhere that going to one game a season makes you equally as much of a fan as those travelling over land & sea...doesn't does it, clearly!

Fair play, that's impressive number of consecutive games. The points system doesn't address the validity of an opinion as you mention, but I agree that maybe my view is flawed compared to that of a club on how to recognise who is a "better" fan. Their view will of course be those that spend the most money following the team.

I just don't like the way some people on here use the "how many games have you been to" stick to beat people with at every opportunity. I think we are all fans and can respect each others opinions even if we don't agree.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on February 28, 2018, 14:39:42 pm
FFS - it's like listening to Trump and his bigger button than rocket man

Are people so insecure about the validity of their comments that they have to play "I'm a better fan than the other guy" - particularly if their views differ.

I listen to people who haven't missed a game for years and (IMO) talk complete horse s***e & offer no meaningful contribution to a discussion, others who are occasional visitors are articulate, incisive and add to an intelligent debate even if their views differ. 

There are individuals with their heads so far up their own backsides I'm surprised they ever actually watch what's on the pitch.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 14:42:13 pm
On your lunch break?

No having a late lunch today, but thanks for your concern 😘


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 15:07:36 pm
Fair play, that's impressive number of consecutive games. The points system doesn't address the validity of an opinion as you mention, but I agree that maybe my view is flawed compared to that of a club on how to recognise who is a "better" fan. Their view will of course be those that spend the most money following the team.

I just don't like the way some people on here use the "how many games have you been to" stick to beat people with at every opportunity. I think we are all fans and can respect each others opinions even if we don't agree.

IMO what Coolie is saying that some regular supporters have by virtue of being consistent supporters may have a greater right to comment on player/manager performance than the occasional supporter. Obviously, this is a contentious issue but at the same time much ado about nothing. Quite why you appear to champion the theory as set out in your last sentence; it almost suggests you have a chip on your shoulder. Why don't you move on, after all, we are all NTFC supporters and that is all that matters? Due to financial constraints, I am unable to go to Blackpool. Finally I still dont really understand 'what is your problem'.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: exiledinspace on February 28, 2018, 15:24:12 pm
FFS - it's like listening to Trump and his bigger button than rocket man

Are people so insecure about the validity of their comments that they have to play "I'm a better fan than the other guy" - particularly if their views differ.

I listen to people who haven't missed a game for years and (IMO) talk complete horse s***e & offer no meaningful contribution to a discussion, others who are occasional visitors are articulate, incisive and add to an intelligent debate even if their views differ. 

There are individuals with their heads so far up their own backsides I'm surprised they ever actually watch what's on the pitch.

Agreed. As I mentioned, I've done my turn of duty going week in week out but now I cant, so I trust my sons view and what I see online. I'm sure a good scout and a video has been enough for a few managers to sign players before?

How many times have we argued in the pub after watching the same game?

Yes, to be clear, I reckon he would get the job at any club outside of the top two divisions so we are lucky to have him and he'll be desperate to pull it off here. I would love to hear a better suggestion than giving him time and our total support and encouragement to the players. .


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 16:17:34 pm
Agreed. As I mentioned, I've done my turn of duty going week in week out but now I cant, so I trust my sons view and what I see online. I'm sure a good scout and a video has been enough for a few managers to sign players before?

How many times have we argued in the pub after watching the same game?

Yes, to be clear, I reckon he would get the job at any club outside of the top two divisions so we are lucky to have him and he'll be desperate to pull it off here. I would love to hear a better suggestion than giving him time and our total support and encouragement to the players. .

Not having a dig at all, just intrested on what grounds do you think that??

Would it be the run of fantastic results particularly at home? Or the fantastic brand of attacking football he brings? or maybe his likeability and connection with the home fans? Maybe even his backdated results record from previous employers?

Just intrested to know really?

So to clarify if Cook left Wigan tommorow then Jimmy would be top of their list to replace him right?


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on February 28, 2018, 17:23:17 pm
Totally understand the sentiment but disagree on many points - of course a manager merry go round rarely solves anything, sure JFH warrants a full season to ultimately be judged and personally I have never booed players of managers however dire they have been (in my opinion) - however I, like other reasonable posters can (without being abusive) post an opinion on what I see and to refer to others as brainless fuckwits doesn't add to the credibility of your opinion.

So why are we critical?

Most reasonable fans expected, not a play off place but a more comfortable mid table position - matched by improving performances after the transfer window - early days but not happening at the moment coupled with the entertainment value which (as QPR fans warned us) is dire - I guess he was experimenting his artistic flair there as well!
Despite your prose - I don't want an artist as a manager of my league 1 side - I want a manager that has some leadership capabilities and some tactical know how - currently I see neither (and could write many paragraphs on what I do see on match days).
To say there are no more Chris Wilders is nonsense - of course there is (otherwise football dies) but you need to be both luck and usually patient to benefit from such talent - which is really your point on JFH but it's a risk and my opinion is it's a bad one from what I see - but a bit like redevelopment I can't influence it so he and the team have my support but it does not stop me or others expressing observations and concerns.   

Read with interest your comments (endorsed by Glaston') on Exiles message.  Just like to express a few observations if I may on your comments.

I for one judging by the recent signings hoped we might make a push for playoffs! It would not surprise me to learn that quite a few Supporters felt the same. Regarding the artist comment, yes that is controversial but would suggest that JFH has leadership and certainly tactical ability which he has demonstrated particularly in away games. The point is that CW worked for us (as did Dave Bowen) but am not sure CW was entirely successful at Oxford. The point is we have appointed two managers of reasonable ability but both have failed so as Exile says CW is virtually impossible to replace. Perhaps JFH can become that man? However to prejudge JFH after 16 games are meaningless.To me, the whole point about Exiles message is to give the bloke a break and offer instead wholehearted support which I think you agree on although it appeared a little reluctant. After the Oxford game, so many of us threw our toys out of the pram, some more or less countenancing a change of Manager! This thing about some taking a high handed attitude over fellow supporters not at the game(s)is a red herring and more often than not is a convenient way to interpret a message to further their argument.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 18:36:32 pm
I am generally supportive of JFH and still hopeful he might be our man. I certainly think he's an improvement on Page and Edinburgh. However, there are things about him that I find irritating and they are related to being too cautious.

His tinkering with the team almost EVERY week, regardless of current form suggests worrying more about the threat of the opposition than the one we can pose to them. This is sometimes also reflected in overcautiousness on the pitch, as witnessed in the second half last Saturday, when we sat back in the second half to let a very average Oxford side dominate the game.

I'm also concerned that he is often satisfied with second best.  In his comments when interviewed after the match on Saturday, he said we must remember we are Northampton Town,in our second season in League 1, as if we should expect nothing more than to struggle. I certainly don't expect us to struggle and less so now that proper money is being spent on our team and coaching staff. We should expect to be a mid-table side at least with what we have now. Similarly, I can think of only a couple of occasions when Jimmy has criticised players' work rate or intensity and he usually praises it. IMO there have been a number of times when I have felt some players have not given their all when he has been happy with their work rate. So my question is, is he demanding enough of the players?

Time will tell and in the meantime I wish him well. After all his success is our success.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 18:39:56 pm
Agreed. As I mentioned, I've done my turn of duty going week in week out but now I cant, so I trust my sons view and what I see online. I'm sure a good scout and a video has been enough for a few managers to sign players before?

How many times have we argued in the pub after watching the same game?

Yes, to be clear, I reckon he would get the job at any club outside of the top two divisions so we are lucky to have him and he'll be desperate to pull it off here. I would love to hear a better suggestion than giving him time and our total support and encouragement to the players. .

I've been thinking about this some more and maybe you're right actually. His tactical astuteness isn't second to none, consistently knowing his best 11 and playing it consistently. Also ability to change a game is second to none.

The more I think about I reckon a prem club will snap him up soon, maybe west Bromwich in the coming weeks???

😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Coolcat on February 28, 2018, 19:19:26 pm
FFS - it's like listening to Trump and his bigger button than rocket man

Are people so insecure about the validity of their comments that they have to play "I'm a better fan than the other guy" - particularly if their views differ.

I listen to people who haven't missed a game for years and (IMO) talk complete horse s***e & offer no meaningful contribution to a discussion, others who are occasional visitors are articulate, incisive and add to an intelligent debate even if their views differ. 

There are individuals with their heads so far up their own backsides I'm surprised they ever actually watch what's on the pitch.
Surely your last sentence here, sums you up to a tee!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 28, 2018, 19:49:34 pm
When you don’t go to any games at all and call those that do “brainless f***wits”  and spout what is and is not good for the team .....  you lose any credibility


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 28, 2018, 20:17:28 pm
Interesting that some of you hold the view that an opinion of a 'fan' who hardly ever watches 'his' club is of equal value to that of one who travels everywhere, just as NTFC are holding their annual 'Fan of the Year' award...to be won for the seventh consecutive year by Lee Geary, on his 3,852 consecutive game - or something!  ;D

Maybe such opinions are equally valid - fair enough! Interesting also I think, that when returning from Blackburn last month, West Ham fans we spoke to have Away Season tickets, followed by travelling priority points to ensure tickets.

Whilst that in itself doesn't necessarily address opinion validity, it does directly counter the argument I read on here and elsewhere that going to one game a season makes you equally as much of a fan as those travelling over land & sea...doesn't does it, clearly!
This post has the curious mix of me hating it yet sort of agreeing with it. The truth is if you love the club, you love the club. Like some people who move abroad and leave their loved ones behind, it doesn’t mean you love them any less than anyone else. However, with regards to the validity of the opinion of someone who is not attending the game being equal to someone who is, that’s different. If that were true, managers and other club representatives wouldn’t bother to travel to attend games to research and evaluate teams and players, and would just watch them on the telly? You see more live so the opinion of attendees has to be more credible, doesn’t it? You’ve still got on my nerves though Cat.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: The Rauldinho on February 28, 2018, 20:17:32 pm
IMO what Coolie is saying that some regular supporters have by virtue of being consistent supporters may have a greater right to comment on player/manager performance than the occasional supporter. Obviously, this is a contentious issue but at the same time much ado about nothing. Quite why you appear to champion the theory as set out in your last sentence; it almost suggests you have a chip on your shoulder. Why don't you move on, after all, we are all NTFC supporters and that is all that matters? Due to financial constraints, I am unable to go to Blackpool. Finally I still dont really understand 'what is your problem'.

It's all my opinion, deal with it.  ;)


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: exiledinspace on March 01, 2018, 07:07:25 am
When you don’t go to any games at all and call those that do “brainless f***wits”  and spout what is and is not good for the team .....  you lose any credibility

I'm sure you've heard worse down the pub, take it in the context in which it's meant.

Your right, I cant get to many games anymore, I'm over 6000 miles away but when I did go home and away week in week out from 1981 through to 1998, I never sat motionless and analysed the game, in truth I was pretty much pissed, singing, messing with my mates etc. It's a social day out, in the Hotel End you would always move around meeting and chatting, at away games I often used to go in "home" ends, to get another perspective and of course to hear our mighty fans singing. Had a few moments of course, once at Feethams and also Twerton Park when my shite drunken west country accent let me down! Big Al's walk around the pitch at Molineux, I couldn't take my eyes off him just strolling around for 20 mins but he goes where he wants.

What I'm badly saying is, at the game, unless your a statto, your undivided attention is not always on the game, but watch on TV with expert analysis you sometimes get a better picture. I don't call anyone who goes to games, but I do feel JFH knows just a little more than some of the untried and untested managers who post on here and for once, just once the short term knee jerk brigade had some patience.

If some feel they've had enough, that's up to them, but they can come up with no realistic alternative. Sack JFH and spend shit loads of money paying him off, pay shit loads to get a tried and tested "stave off relegation" figure in, someone like Gary Johnson maybe? He works with players he didn't sign so blames that when he fucks up and we go down, more money. Or we believe that Jimmy could not sign exactly who he wants in a difficult January window, but if we don't panic, we could use all that money in the summer in a full transfer window allowing Jimmy to finish building a team.

This is of course if he can keep us up, that's the ****, I would prefer the latter.

Credibility? Here? It's a fucking forum! You could be Noel Cantwell's illegitimate daughter or an MP for all I know, why do you seek credibility on here?

I'll always post an opinion.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on March 01, 2018, 08:27:14 am
Great post Exile. I've been a ST holder for about third of my 40 adult years. I was never been any less of a supporter during this time. Every cobblers view is valid. Bugger me, we're a small enough fraction without dividing us further along the lines of game attended percentages! We have no option but to get behind Jimmy. I personally just wish he'd be less willing to pick a fight with fans and more focussed on getting his team prepared to run themselves into the ground. E.g. Our ability to desperately avoid the ball whenever we get a throw in!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: BedsCobb on March 01, 2018, 09:16:05 am
I've previously  looked at the line ups in far away pubs and expected Rob Page to go with a pep gaurdiola like 4-2-3-1 with harry beautyman and Alfi potter doing an Iniesta and xavi type roles then get disappointed with a defeat playing 5-4-1 and our very own iniesta and xavi play like they are out of their depths league 1 journey men!




Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on March 01, 2018, 13:23:47 pm
Great post Exile. I've been a ST holder for about third of my 40 adult years. I was never been any less of a supporter during this time. Every cobblers view is valid. Bugger me, we're a small enough fraction without dividing us further along the lines of game attended percentages! We have no option but to get behind Jimmy. I personally just wish he'd be less willing to pick a fight with fans and more focussed on getting his team prepared to run themselves into the ground. E.g. Our ability to desperately avoid the ball whenever we get a throw in!

This short statement probably accounts for 95% of our support. On here which is not always a barometer of overall support, as views are so 'flamboyant' and varied. For example we have one member who promotes ground enhancement; some who find JFH an anathema and would clearly like to see him gone and then there are some who admit to booing their team! Whilst all this fine for the forum and encourages discussion it does not always represent maim stream opinion. We all on here need to unite and adopt a more positive attitude for NTFC, a critical but constructive opinion should be encouraged. More often than not the away support has been magnificent if only the Home Support can follow their example. Why are these two sections so different?


 


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 01, 2018, 14:20:43 pm
On Monday evening I attended an event at Sixfield's (sponsors evening) and had the pleasure of actually sitting on the same table as Jimmy.

Needless to say, I took the opportunity to ask him a number of questions amongst the general chit chat.

What I will say he's unbelievably honest, and I mean unbelievably. He also appeared to have a real synergy with all of the players that were there that evening, I found myself observing his/their body language when they were in contact…we all know how good the dressing room under Wilder was. And I have the impression that the dressing room is really strong now. Oxford away was our best performance under him in his words when I asked the question..Id 100% agree. Blackburn away was the other one he said from an defensive angle. Again, 100% agree. He spends a couple of nights each week staying locally in a hotel (lives in Surrey) and is clearly extremely committed to the job. I got talking with him a lot about training facilities, he heavily implied that was the prime reason why Burton have boxed way above their weight. They have pretty much the best facilities in the country. I found that interesting because I asked him the question outright…how important are training facilities to a football club?!  The reason I asked that question being its so often debated, and I've never really accepted that they are as important as what some claim them to be. I am now firmly in the camp that its an area that our football club should really prioritise, above any small capacity increase for sure! (if a choice had to be made between the two so hypothetically speaking)

Finally, he's a really nice chap. I face timed my 8 year old who has had a season ticket with Daddy for the last 4 years and has already been too a dozen away games…he absolutely loves the Cobblers...who was at home ready for bed and put him onto Jimmy..magic moment  :)

Of course none of this is overly to do with the thread; Im respectful enough not to drill him about tactics and why Grimes never gets subbed, why he played Revell on the wing v Bristol Rovers etc in that environment! But he really came across as someone who knows his football, has full respect from his players etc. Just thought Id share it!


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: everbrite on March 01, 2018, 14:28:19 pm
On Monday evening I attended an event at Sixfield's (sponsors evening) and had the pleasure of actually sitting on the same table as Jimmy.

Needless to say, I took the opportunity to ask him a number of questions amongst the general chit chat.



Your report is no surprise as I am pretty sure it was 'Terry'  who voiced the opinion " we are lucky to have him". If I am wrong I am sorry.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 01, 2018, 15:07:33 pm
I notice JFH hasn’t done press duties this week .....
Probably not a bad idea after the heavy handed post match interview and actions on Saturday.
Just get the team performing Jimmy and the support will follow


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 01, 2018, 16:47:40 pm

 I got talking with him a lot about training facilities, he heavily implied that was the prime reason why Burton have boxed way above their weight. They have pretty much the best facilities in the country. I found that interesting because I asked him the question outright…how important are training facilities to a football club?!  The reason I asked that question being its so often debated, and I've never really accepted that they are as important as what some claim them to be. I am now firmly in the camp that its an area that our football club should really prioritise, above any small capacity increase for sure! (if a choice had to be made between the two so hypothetically speaking)


Great point - having been closer to the club a few years ago I can safely say we have for decades, had amongst the worse training facilities of any professional club - from parks, to schools, from colleges to flooded rugby pitches - frankly awful & it must have a negative affect on players however good the manager's motivation is.

I hesitate to give them praise but R&D when on their way up spent more on their training facilities and did it before putting a roof on the Airwair stand....perhaps a message there for our friend Beds - infrastructure goes beyond stadium capacity.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: cobblerwatch on March 01, 2018, 16:53:09 pm
I personally just wish he'd be less willing to pick a fight with fans and more focussed on getting his team prepared to run themselves into the ground. E.g. Our ability to desperately avoid the ball whenever we get a throw in!

Not sure he deliberately picks a fight - a certain amount of provocation but spot on re your last point which drove me mad on Saturday.

I seem to see two completely different sides this season (generally split between home and away) -neither are I think a fantastic side but one chases down every 50-50 ball, makes space and generally look full of energy - this is the side that's getting the draws and the wins - the other side just the opposite - lack lustre, strolling, not making space and always dropping so so deep.


Title: Re: J F H
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 02, 2018, 12:49:05 pm
Moved all of the Redev stuff onto it's correct thread...use it.