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Title: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 04, 2018, 10:13:40 am
So, the end to a very disappointing season is almost here and everyone is rightly a bit gloomy. What better way to cheer up than to indulge in the discussion of transfers, where upon you can leave realism behind?  ;D

This a thread intended to be a friendly, light-hearted discussion for which players that you may have enjoyed watching in the past, or think would be a good signing for us going into League 2.

No need to be hyper-analytical of each post or to assess whether someone else's suggestion is too farfetched.

I'll get the ball rolling... Kristian Dennis of Chesterfield. Scored 19 this season and would probably be available after their relegation!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 04, 2018, 10:18:56 am
The problem with these threads is that they just end up away with the fairies. There was a thread on Twitter after relegation was confirmed about who we should look to sign. Some wise sage on there thinks we should go after Danny Graham from Blackburn as he "may be looking for a final pay day". That will be the same Danny Graham that has been on Prem/top level Championship wages for the past 10 years, but yeah he'll definitely come to League 2 for £3k a week!



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 04, 2018, 11:42:05 am
The problem with these threads is that they just end up away with the fairies. There was a thread on Twitter after relegation was confirmed about who we should look to sign. Some wise sage on there thinks we should go after Danny Graham from Blackburn as he "may be looking for a final pay day". That will be the same Danny Graham that has been on Prem/top level Championship wages for the past 10 years, but yeah he'll definitely come to League 2 for £3k a week!



I get what you mean but that was kind of point of the thread to just have a fun discussion. If such suggestions irk you then just leave it be.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 04, 2018, 12:05:39 pm
Ricky Holmes will get fed up of warming the bench at Sheffield, and will join on a season long loan.  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 04, 2018, 12:11:40 pm
Danny Rowe from fylde - I wouldnít have thought heíll want to hang around now theyíve been beaten in the playoff last night.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 04, 2018, 12:18:07 pm
Danny Hylton would be top of my list - not good enough for league 1 - Luton may look to get rid - Will score goals and is always a pain in the arse when he plays us. He would be a good realistic signing. 


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 04, 2018, 12:26:06 pm
I get what you mean but that was kind of point of the thread to just have a fun discussion. If such suggestions irk you then just leave it be.

Aye, fair enough. Let's see what gem's get brought up  :)

Danny Hylton would be top of my list - not good enough for league 1 - Luton may look to get rid - Will score goals and is always a pain in the arse when he plays us. He would be a good realistic signing. 

Be interesting to see what happens now Luton have gone up and Hylton and Collins seem to be in between the two leagues. Gut feel is they'll keep Hylton and look to offload Collins. Neither would be cheap I'd imagine


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 04, 2018, 12:36:59 pm
We need mentally strong players, winners, orrible' bastards to play against.....

Decent striker(s) with pace & creative players...

First though, as we've got so many under contract already, we need to try & ship out the dross such as Bowditch, Kasim, KVV (especially!)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: just.reading on May 04, 2018, 13:05:30 pm
The problem with these threads is that they just end up away with the fairies. There was a thread on Twitter after relegation was confirmed about who we should look to sign. Some wise sage on there thinks we should go after Danny Graham from Blackburn as he "may be looking for a final pay day". That will be the same Danny Graham that has been on Prem/top level Championship wages for the past 10 years, but yeah he'll definitely come to League 2 for £3k a week!



You've just described exactly what happened the likes of Matt Taylor, Clarke Carlise and Sean Dyche did when they joined us. Not saying Danny Graham specifically will join us, but it does happen!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Coolcat on May 04, 2018, 13:52:23 pm
'try' to sign?

Sane from Manchester City!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 04, 2018, 14:00:09 pm
Iíd try and look at attacking players with most assists, most goals and appearances. Particularly if in struggling teams that donít want to drop a level or missed out on stepping up.
Iíd try and look at defenders with teams that have conceded the least goals.
Players with good discipline and fitness records.

In short, areas we have failed this season.

Young enough to have ambition and drive and or experienced enough to have guile and strength in a promotion fight.




Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: unicobbler on May 04, 2018, 14:22:39 pm
Swindon have a good striker who has scored a lot of goals in League 2


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 04, 2018, 14:29:28 pm
Aye, fair enough. Let's see what gem's get brought up  :)

Be interesting to see what happens now Luton have gone up and Hylton and Collins seem to be in between the two leagues. Gut feel is they'll keep Hylton and look to offload Collins. Neither would be cheap I'd imagine

I might be wrong, but I reckon Collins will be ahead of Hylton at Luton. They might get rid of both tho as you say!

You do need nasty in your face players in Lg2 and Hylton ticks all the boxes in that regard as well as getting prob 15 goals


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 04, 2018, 14:32:51 pm
'try' to sign?

Sane from Manchester City!

https://youtu.be/KBWuDhIv9B0


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Manwork04 on May 04, 2018, 14:43:46 pm
Me


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 04, 2018, 15:44:45 pm
I think we should sign a pacey striker who likes playing in front of a newly developed East Stand, hotel and conference centre, which completes the 12,000 seater (and safe standing) stadium!!!

Nurse another lager please.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 04, 2018, 16:18:10 pm
Matt Grimes, Kenji Gorre, Boris Mathis, Hilderberto Perreira....


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 04, 2018, 16:37:58 pm
You've just described exactly what happened the likes of Matt Taylor, Clarke Carlise and Sean Dyche did when they joined us. Not saying Danny Graham specifically will join us, but it does happen!

It does indeed but they were all 3/4/5 years alder than Graham when they joined us. They weren't getting games at the level they were at and we were another stop on their gradual journey downward.

Graham is first choice for a side promoted to the championship, to suggest he would want to play in League 2 right now for a few k a week is pretty laughable,


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: just.reading on May 04, 2018, 20:29:14 pm
It does indeed but they were all 3/4/5 years alder than Graham when they joined us. They weren't getting games at the level they were at and we were another stop on their gradual journey downward.

Graham is first choice for a side promoted to the championship, to suggest he would want to play in League 2 right now for a few k a week is pretty laughable,

As I said, I'm not saying Graham specifically would join us. Just making the point that players who have played their whole career in the top 2 divisions will drop down to L2.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 04, 2018, 22:03:28 pm

In short, areas we have failed this season


Which areas were we successful?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 04, 2018, 23:11:17 pm
Which areas were we successful?

Probably in our match day revenue, have you seen the prices for the hotdogs and pies?? Surely we could be funding a new east stand on them alone  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 04, 2018, 23:44:36 pm
Who **** knows!! A lot will depend on who the manager is I guess.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 05, 2018, 07:37:52 am
Which areas were we successful?

Finally remembering that McWilliams should play. Other than that.....


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 05, 2018, 13:12:16 pm
As I said, I'm not saying Graham specifically would join us. Just making the point that players who have played their whole career in the top 2 divisions will drop down to L2.

Yes which I never argued against. The original point is that when threads like this appear we get nut jobs coming up with ridiculous suggestions, such as the one I mentioned where someone specifically said we should sign Danny Graham


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Lukey on May 05, 2018, 16:37:16 pm
Which areas were we successful?

Goalkeeping, has been good at times, a better defence would have helped more though.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 05, 2018, 20:35:40 pm
Anyone at the game today, how did Duckens Nazon play for Oldham? Seems to be very in form recently


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Air-Dan on May 05, 2018, 21:04:12 pm
I'll be the one to suggest we try to bring back Bayo...

 ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 05, 2018, 21:19:13 pm
I'll be the one to suggest we try to bring back Bayo...

 ;D

Mad love all round


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 05, 2018, 21:37:55 pm
The core is there if most stick around. I would say if we hold on to ROD, Taylor, McWilliams, JJOT then add a proven goal scorer at that level it'll be a good start. MOST of the rest should be more than enough to do OK in League Two. It's a matter of first finding out who has what clauses in their contracts regarding relegation and going from there.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 05, 2018, 22:04:19 pm
The core is there if most stick around. I would say if we hold on to ROD, Taylor, McWilliams, JJOT then add a proven goal scorer at that level it'll be a good start. MOST of the rest should be more than enough to do OK in League Two. It's a matter of first finding out who has what clauses in their contracts regarding relegation and going from there.

I think foley will have a more significant role to play next season - he is a very underrated, industrious and versatile player (and probably relatively cheap) and has been messed around this season. I thought Barnett had a good game today and it might be that the 3 of him, Taylor and Pierre will thrive in the more physical league 2. I would look to get rid of turnbull if we can find a taker as he is surplus to requirements.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 06, 2018, 03:51:27 am
If we want to win promotion at the first time of asking then we must sign FOUR strikers to give the variation and cover for a full season. None of the current strikers should be in our plans for next season.
The basis of the defence and midfield is in place.

The biggest problem will be shipping out the range of fringe players like Kasim, Bowditch, Hoskins etc!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: meccanostand on May 06, 2018, 08:18:06 am
Alex Nicholls banging them in for Barnet. What a lovely player.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Buster on May 06, 2018, 08:33:28 am
Alex Nicholls banging them in for Barnet. What a lovely player.

Yes Iíve noticed Alex scoring a few recently and was actually longing for Coventry to get a winner to save Barnet yesterday.  I think however that Alexís best days are behind him so this is not a vote to sign him.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 06, 2018, 08:35:16 am
I loved nicholls when he was here - absolutely gutting when that thug mccombe effectively ended his career with us.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 06, 2018, 12:03:01 pm
Mohamed Eisa from Cheltenham would be nice


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Manwork04 on May 06, 2018, 16:24:39 pm
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 06, 2018, 16:42:18 pm
Glenn Whelan from Villa, Gareth McAuley from West Bromwich, Wes Hoolahan Norwich, and/or John OShea Sunderland. I.E experienced leaders on the pitch.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 06, 2018, 16:43:13 pm
Billy Waters returns too, don't forget...I still think he could do a job in L2.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 06, 2018, 17:31:07 pm
John Akinde


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 06, 2018, 17:44:54 pm
Billy Waters returns too, don't forget...I still think he could do a job in L2.

On his Twitter yesterday there was a lot of praise for him from Cambridge fans.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 06, 2018, 17:47:06 pm
John Akinde
Not a prolific season for him. Same amount of goals as Ash Taylor and still got a year left on his contract.

Who knows?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: paul thompson is on May 06, 2018, 19:50:47 pm
Paul Hubbard


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 06, 2018, 20:02:18 pm
Peterborough have listed 13 players today - Anthony grant and jack Baldwin are about the only decent shouts from what's on offer but the fact that fees would be required would probably make it a no-go.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 06, 2018, 20:04:27 pm
Paul Hubbard


Yes indeed - his mum's in need of some food so he'll be needing to sign somewhere.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 06, 2018, 20:09:00 pm
Peterborough have listed 13 players today - Anthony grant and jack Baldwin are about the only decent shouts from what's on offer but the fact that fees would be required would probably make it a no-go.

Disagree would gladly take any of Grant, Baldwin, Morias, Forrester, Anderson or Doughty. Surprised they're glad to let so many decent players leave! Morias would be good for us in league two I think


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 06, 2018, 20:21:29 pm
Disagree would gladly take any of Grant, Baldwin, Morias, Forrester, Anderson or Doughty. Surprised they're glad to let so many decent players leave! Morias would be good for us in league two I think

I didn't see the full list, I agree that morais, Anderson and forrester are all very decent - especially forrester who will surely go to another league one team. I'm guessing this has something to do with Peterborough's policy of listing any players who enter the last year of their contract and indicate they won't sign another.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Poggy on May 09, 2018, 16:33:40 pm
I think we need to look to sign experienced players who have got a League 2 promotion or two on their CVs. And also hope to pick up a couple of unknown gems.

Collins or Hylton from Luton

Other players that impressed me in L2 were John Akinde and Jacobson, the Wycombe left back.





Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 09, 2018, 16:58:52 pm
We need a replacement for Grimes.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: corno_ntfc on May 09, 2018, 17:44:55 pm
We need a replacement for Grimes.

A set piece specialist who can't take set pieces... no thanks  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 09, 2018, 18:37:01 pm
Joel Byrom is a decent player at L2 level and is available again it seems.

Not sure we need him with Foley, McWilliams, JJ as options in the middle.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Cobblersmad on May 09, 2018, 19:20:03 pm
A couple of players impressed me this season. Will Nightingale, centre half at Wimbledon, won the young pots there last year. Another one was  Dan Sweeney of Barnet. When I saw them play Luton last month he has that special skill of making the easy simple passes. I think if we wanted to go down a different route of getting young hungry players instead of names they could be worth a shout.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 09, 2018, 20:20:02 pm
Joel Byrom is a decent player at L2 level and is available again it seems.

Just need to bring in Concrete Rod, Nicky Adams, Lawson D'Ath, Bayo and Richards... and I think we'll be ready.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 09, 2018, 22:58:42 pm
Just need to bring in Concrete Rod, Nicky Adams, Lawson D'Ath, Bayo and Richards... and I think we'll be ready.

...not forgetting Holmes!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: rodger on May 09, 2018, 23:17:40 pm
Duckens Nazon


This guy, been impressed with his goals on the Football League Show


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 09, 2018, 23:36:41 pm
Mcglashan might be useful in lg2



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: NTFC Nut on May 10, 2018, 19:14:58 pm
Zander on the transfer list at Mansfield:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44075117

Would have him back in a heartbeat alongside Ash.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 10, 2018, 19:46:21 pm
Joel Byrom is a decent player at L2 level and is available again it seems.

Not sure we need him with Foley, McWilliams, JJ as options in the middle.

God, how we missed a Joel Byrom type of midfielder this season - neat, tidy, mobile, rarely gives the ball away and not afraid to get stuck in.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 10, 2018, 20:17:13 pm
God, how we missed a Joel Byrom type of midfielder this season - neat, tidy, mobile, rarely gives the ball away and not afraid to get stuck in.

Wouldn't describe him as mobile  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on May 10, 2018, 20:40:07 pm
God, how we missed a Joel Byrom type of midfielder this season - neat, tidy, mobile, rarely gives the ball away and not afraid to get stuck in.
Don't forget his vision, we must have scored 3 or 4 goals at least when he took quick free kicks while the opposition were still deciding how many to have in the wall.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 10, 2018, 21:04:49 pm
A cretin Danny Alfie is avaliable following release by yeovil!!!!


I was going to say Harry pell from Cheltenham, his the sort we need. He has gone elsewhere today.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 11, 2018, 12:06:12 pm
Not one coming in but the quote NTFC have just put on twitter seems to indicate that Shay Facey will remain. I don't expect anyone to depart bar Van Veen and maybe Bunney.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 11, 2018, 12:14:16 pm
Not one coming in but the quote NTFC have just put on twitter seems to indicate that Shay Facey will remain. I don't expect anyone to depart bar Van Veen and maybe Bunney.

Think you can prob add O'Donnell to that list


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 11, 2018, 12:23:15 pm
Think you can prob add O'Donnell to that list

Why? What's the gossip?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 11, 2018, 12:35:09 pm
Why? What's the gossip?

Just reading between the lines of his interview recently and the fact Cornell has signed his deal - Just speculation but I would not be suprised


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 11, 2018, 12:42:57 pm
Just reading between the lines of his interview recently and the fact Cornell has signed his deal - Just speculation but I would not be suprised

I rate O'Donnell. Hopefully his poor CV will now work in our favour this window.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 11, 2018, 12:49:52 pm
I think most would like ROD to stay, he is under contract and has been relegated for a club that had the worst GD in the league, so fingers crossed nobody else wants him.

The two year deal for Cornell is an odd one, even as a back up when we have Coddington/Goff and normally plenty of loan options available in an emergency.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: just.reading on May 11, 2018, 15:46:32 pm
A cretin Danny Alfie is avaliable following release by yeovil!!!!


I was going to say Harry pell from Cheltenham, his the sort we need. He has gone elsewhere today.

Cretin or certain? Same thing in his case.

Pell has gone to Colchester.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 11, 2018, 16:06:33 pm
Cretin or certain? Same thing in his case.

Pell has gone to Colchester.

Certain - sorry predictive texts.

Mind you not much in it  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Poggy on May 11, 2018, 16:54:51 pm
Not one coming in but the quote NTFC have just put on twitter seems to indicate that Shay Facey will remain. I don't expect anyone to depart bar Van Veen and maybe Bunney.

I don't think Facey has done enough to court much interest in his services at L1. He's been in and out of the team with injuries also. The problem with Facey is for someone of his age he has played so few games in his career so far. I don't think he could cope with the rigours of a full season in L2. I'd have a fit Moloney over him who has proven himself at L2 level although again not the best recent injury record.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 11, 2018, 20:01:44 pm
Lots of players doing end of season interviews John-Joe, Aaron Pierre and now Shay Facey. Maybe, Kevin van Veen will be the next  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: paul thompson is on May 11, 2018, 20:03:10 pm
Lots of players doing end of season interviews John-Joe, Aaron Pierre and now Shay Facey. Maybe, Kevin van Veen will be the next  ;D

We'll he has reportedly said he was interviewed and was waiting for KT to get back to him, but was keen on the job. Even tweeting this week he was keen and ready to get back in the squad . So I would say he almost certainly did apply!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: andycobbler on May 12, 2018, 09:16:53 am
We'll he has reportedly said he was interviewed and was waiting for KT to get back to him, but was keen on the job. Even tweeting this week he was keen and ready to get back in the squad . So I would say he almost certainly did apply!

Apply for what ???


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 12, 2018, 21:00:12 pm
I'd forgotten about turnbull - I'd assume the fact that he wasn't selected after DA took over allied with his "previous" for thinking he was too good for league two would mean he'll be moving on if we get any takers. A similar story with bunney who was left out of most squads when Austin took over. I would assume van veen will be on his way if we find someone willing to take him - possibly someone abroad. The only ones from the January signings I would be sad to see go are facey (who looks like he might stay based on his twitter comments) and O'Donnell who would be a big miss.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 12, 2018, 21:07:46 pm
Don't even think ROD would be a huge miss IMO.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Mathius on May 12, 2018, 21:53:06 pm
Matt Ingram


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 12, 2018, 21:55:55 pm
Players come, players go. No one is irreplaceable but some would be a bigger miss than others. One thing is for certain, we need good characters in the team next season, and that is something they appear to be trying to address in the statement issued today.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 13, 2018, 08:57:02 am
Matt Ingram

Is that a hope or any inside knowledge?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on May 13, 2018, 09:32:24 am
I see Mansfield Town are attempting to get rid of their Cobblers contingent.

Alfie Potter and Joel Byrom have been released while Zander Diamond and Paul Anderson have been put are up for sale.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 13, 2018, 12:09:20 pm
I see Mansfield Town are attempting to get rid of their Cobblers contingent.

Alfie Potter and Joel Byrom have been released while Zander Diamond and Paul Anderson have been put are up for sale.

Avoid ALL of them


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 13, 2018, 22:59:40 pm
Avoid ALL of them

Zander is the only one of that lot I would look at and prob only if we lost ash.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 13, 2018, 23:51:06 pm
Avoid ALL of them

Totally agree...

Let's all move on eh? None of them are good enough if we want to mount a serious promotion challenge.

Plenty of younger & better players out there...

No rush as we've the nucleus of a decent squad for L2 already.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on May 14, 2018, 07:39:53 am
Bruno Adrande from borehamwood.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: lordjord on May 14, 2018, 10:27:27 am
Pierro Mingoia was ace last time we were in League 2. He has been let go from Cambridge (injuries played a part I believe). Very much in the Adams / D'ath mould.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 14, 2018, 11:05:38 am
Pierro Mingoia was ace last time we were in League 2. He has been let go from Cambridge (injuries played a part I believe). Very much in the Adams / D'ath mould.

which is he then? ace? or terrible like lawson d'ath?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: clarkeysntfc on May 14, 2018, 11:08:43 am
Dean's shopping list needs to focus on 3 key areas:
1) Physical "enforcer" central midfielder/s. Other than O'Toole and possibly McWilliams, all of our central players are much too lightweight. We need someone who can put their foot in.
2) Width - pace out wide in the Nicky Adams mould.
3) Strikers - need a focal point striker in L2, someone with a bit of presence who will take defenders away and free up space for others.

We also need to offload a fair few players including Coddington, Turnbull, Kasim, Bowditch etc.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on May 14, 2018, 12:25:46 pm
which is he then? ace? or terrible like lawson d'ath?

In his first season Lawson D'Ath was very good.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 12:45:21 pm
In his first season Lawson D'Ath was very good.

Then Ricky Holmes came along!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 14, 2018, 12:53:36 pm
2) Width - pace out wide in the Nicky Adams mould.


do you want someone with pace? or someone in the nicky adams mould?

2 completely different things.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 14, 2018, 14:17:06 pm
Personally I don't want to see a glut of signings, maybe two or three depending on who goes.

I would much prefer to see the likes of Whaler, Morgan, Iaciofano etc getting opportunities at L2 level.

If we don't get rid of too many, we shouldn't have the need for masses of new signings.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 14, 2018, 14:18:00 pm
do you want someone with pace? or someone in the nicky adams mould?

2 completely different things.

I was thinking the same thing  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 14, 2018, 14:19:52 pm
Personally I don't want to see a glut of signings, maybe two or three depending on who goes.


you might want to wait and see how many leave the club first - i think there will be at least 8 moved on - either by their choice or the clubs.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 14, 2018, 14:28:46 pm
you might want to wait and see how many leave the club first - i think there will be at least 8 moved on - either by their choice or the clubs.

Totally agree, that is why I put depending on who goes.

I don't think we need to shift as many as that, which eight would you be moving on or you think that some will leave (relegation clauses)?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 14, 2018, 14:42:20 pm
Totally agree, that is why I put depending on who goes.

I don't think we need to shift as many as that, which eight would you be moving on or you think that some will leave (relegation clauses)?


I think of these were to leave, it'd hardly be a shock: Coddington, O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull, Kasim, Bowditch, Van Veen, Waters. Maybe Foley? He left Port Vale saying he didn't want to play League Two from memory.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 15:13:01 pm
I think of these were to leave, it'd hardly be a shock: Coddington, O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull, Kasim, Bowditch, Van Veen, Waters. Maybe Foley? He left Port Vale saying he didn't want to play League Two from memory.

I think it's inevitable turnover will be high and I'd be quite happy to see the majority leave if I'm honest. Let's not for get our defensive record was the worst in tge league and we struggled to create and score goals. Yes there will be a drop in quality in lg2 and we will need to play a certain type of football to do well. IMHO the majority of this lot that may well stay (4 or 5 aside) will struggle in lg2 (hoskins, Foley etc)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Poggy on May 14, 2018, 15:20:57 pm
Anthony Wordsworth. Released by Southend. Left footed central midfielder who can take decent set-pieces. Played most his football at L1 but DA is familiar with him having been at Southend.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 15:42:15 pm
I think it's inevitable turnover will be high and I'd be quite happy to see the majority leave if I'm honest. Let's not for get our defensive record was the worst in tge league and we struggled to create and score goals. Yes there will be a drop in quality in lg2 and we will need to play a certain type of football to do well. IMHO the majority of this lot that may well stay (4 or 5 aside) will struggle in lg2 (hoskins, Foley etc)

Hoskins and Foley will struggle in L2?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 14, 2018, 15:49:07 pm
I think of these were to leave, it'd hardly be a shock: Coddington, O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull, Kasim, Bowditch, Van Veen, Waters. Maybe Foley? He left Port Vale saying he didn't want to play League Two from memory.

True, but surely some of them might think they have a better chance of starting in a lower league with a different manager (Bowditch/Waters for example?)

Agree that Coddington should exit if it can be arranged, but we have three keepers if he goes so that doesn't warrant a signing.

Kasim is an odd one, maybe he'll come good in L2? :) Turnbull and Van Veen may be obvious, think Foley would struggle to get into another L1 club after being relegated two season in a row? Would be happy to keep him anyway.

Would be upset if we cannot keep hold of R'OD, but if the Cornell signing indicates he is then we still have three keepers (Cornell, Coddington, Goff).


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Rushdencobbler on May 14, 2018, 16:59:00 pm
For me its simple really, no more square pegs in round holes,

We have a good squad, arguable even enough fire power to compete and push for promotion in League 2.

If we are signing players lets make sure they have the right mentality first and suit the system, just because they scored 20 plus for one team don't mean they work for us.

Even the players we have now if they don't fit into the work ethic or ethos then get rid, can't afford for hangers on whoever they are.

Harping back to Wilder days, he just signed good pros who wanted to work hard for the team and when they didn't perform he got rid or froze out until they proved themselves again, Austin seems of a similar mould and wont take any rubbish.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 14, 2018, 17:01:12 pm
For me its simple really, no more square pegs in round holes,


this was part of the key to CW's success - he got the balance of the team right rather than trying to squeeze players in to position / system they didnt suit.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 14, 2018, 17:30:42 pm
For me its simple really, no more square pegs in round holes,

We have a good squad, arguable even enough fire power to compete and push for promotion in League 2.

If we are signing players lets make sure they have the right mentality first and suit the system, just because they scored 20 plus for one team don't mean they work for us.

Even the players we have now if they don't fit into the work ethic or ethos then get rid, can't afford for hangers on whoever they are.

Harping back to Wilder days, he just signed good pros who wanted to work hard for the team and when they didn't perform he got rid or froze out until they proved themselves again, Austin seems of a similar mould and wont take any rubbish.
'Enough fire power'!!!???

Can you name ONE single striker we have who you think will get 15 or more goals next season.

I think we need a minimum of THREE new strikers.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Rushdencobbler on May 14, 2018, 18:24:53 pm
There are goals in van veen if he wants to be here


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: sussexcobbler on May 14, 2018, 18:28:25 pm
surely Bayo would be worth an approach.  Wycombe may not fancy him in L1 and his goals and assists in L2 were excellent again last year.  Bayo and JJOT on the same pitch.....


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 14, 2018, 19:30:41 pm
Bayo signed a new contract. Move on.

I agree our biggest priority has to be strikers and a midfield enforcer.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 14, 2018, 20:27:40 pm
I wouldn't name any individuals, what I want is the same as I did pre-JanuaryÖcharacters, enforcers, leaders. I have no idea who those lower league warriors are but a 'John Gayle up front', a 'Jason Taylor in midfield' and a 'Sammo/Dyche type in Defence' would be where Id be prioritising.

We *may well have two of those already in McWilliams and Pierre (who was seen as that type of player at Wycombe). Neither of these players played for us much last season for different reasons. But we certainly need a character up front. Of course a winger wouldn't go amiss but I think Bunney and Powell will be just fine flanking a strong midfield next season in league2.

I said the same thing before the January window opened. Getting rid of players is far more important. And theres a good half a dozen Id be looking to ship out for different reasons before even worrying about bringing anyone new into the squad!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on May 14, 2018, 20:52:27 pm
If you could get the likes of James Hanson even on a season long loan then i believe we have a chance to do very well.

These players i would like to see -


James Hanson
John Akinde
Clayton Donaldson
Dave Tarpey

you give these types of players decent service they will score goals


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 21:00:09 pm
Hoskins and Foley will struggle in L2?

Yep, imo.

Let me remind you again hoskins was a squad player only in our champ season. He is bottom end lg2 /top end confrence at best and I hope we won't be playing him as a forward. Foley has spent much if his career in LG 2 with yeovil and the like. He might be alright, but if either are near out starting 11, I would suggest we won't be competing near the top 8


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 21:03:03 pm
If you could get the likes of James Hanson even on a season long loan then i believe we have a chance to do very well.

These players i would like to see -


James Hanson
John Akinde
Clayton Donaldson
Dave Tarpey

you give these types of players decent service they will score goals


Hylton and a hanson type would be a good pairing imo


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 14, 2018, 21:47:02 pm
Dave Tarpey!!!! What.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on May 14, 2018, 22:12:06 pm
Hoskins or one legged Tarpey.... i know who i would rather  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2018, 22:33:09 pm
Yep, imo.

Let me remind you again hoskins was a squad player only in our champ season. He is bottom end lg2 /top end confrence at best and I hope we won't be playing him as a forward. Foley has spent much if his career in LG 2 with yeovil and the like. He might be alright, but if either are near out starting 11, I would suggest we won't be competing near the top 8
;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on May 15, 2018, 05:22:51 am
If you could get the likes of James Hanson even on a season long loan then i believe we have a chance to do very well.

These players i would like to see -


James Hanson
John Akinde
Clayton Donaldson
Dave Tarpey

you give these types of players decent service they will score goals


James Hanson has only scored once since January last year. His return of eighty something goals in 300 games for BCFC isn't that great either.

If you're playing two up front then his strength would be a good foil for a natural goalscorer


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: unicobbler on May 15, 2018, 07:32:36 am
Danny Rowe from Fylde as a punt from non league, had 2 good seasons with Fylde and will want to make a name for himself in the football league I'm sure


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 15, 2018, 09:11:02 am
Yep, imo.

Let me remind you again hoskins was a squad player only in our champ season. He is bottom end lg2 /top end confrence at best and I hope we won't be playing him as a forward. Foley has spent much if his career in LG 2 with yeovil and the like. He might be alright, but if either are near out starting 11, I would suggest we won't be competing near the top 8

Good point. You'd think if he was put up for sale, only teams in the bottom half of League Two would have any interest.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Onetouch on May 15, 2018, 09:28:48 am
Id Keep Hoskins.
Needs to improve his finishing but will chase everything all day and doesnt stop. He's like a terrier giving defenders no time on the ball.

Hoskin & VV could work if they both want it to

I wouldnt be surprised if we tried to resign Grimes again


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 15, 2018, 09:35:45 am
Id Keep Hoskins.
Needs to improve his finishing but will chase everything all day and doesnt stop. He's like a terrier giving defenders no time on the ball.

Hoskin & VV could work if they both want it to

I wouldnt be surprised if we tried to resign Grimes again

VV wont be here


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 15, 2018, 11:09:16 am
VV wont be here


A number of you keep saying this. 
Apart from a remark at the end of season thing, what is this based on because he is still under contract for another two years?
Starting with 'I think/believe' isn't the response...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 15, 2018, 12:24:44 pm
it is based on fact


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 15, 2018, 12:54:50 pm
it is based on fact


Shouldn't that be preceded by "I believe"?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: WasRambo on May 15, 2018, 13:04:46 pm
Based on what DA has repeatedly said about his footballing "philosophies" he'll be looking for athletic, borderline aggressive, attack minded players.

Feel free to state which of the current crop fit that billet and add any others from elsewhere - if you can think of any...



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on May 15, 2018, 13:13:09 pm
Shouldn't that be preceded by "I believe"?

nope


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ntfc01 on May 15, 2018, 14:20:52 pm
it is based on fact


What fact is this


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on May 15, 2018, 14:24:05 pm
Hoskins is s***e fact..


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2018, 14:53:51 pm
Hoskins is s***e fact..

Better get used to it - Austin is obviously a big fan.
I notice Nathan Thomas has been released by Sheffield Utd - heíd be a cracking signing but will be in high demand. I agree with the poster who said about Clayton Donaldson - heíd be the ideal kind of target man striker we could do with.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Hask on May 15, 2018, 14:55:25 pm
From what Austin said in his interview, it would seem that movement of players in may be less than more.

Seems to indicate he likes a compact squad and that last two windows were too busy.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2018, 15:13:33 pm
A bit worrying bearing in mind weíve got kasim and bowditch amongst several others who are clearly surplus to requirements - itís very noble to think that they could be coached into being productive squad members but I donít think fergie in his pomp would have been able to get a tune out of them.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: meccanostand on May 15, 2018, 15:45:02 pm
Confident we'll do ok in League 2. It's the almost complete inability to cope in League 1 which is a bigger concern and one that no chairman has got to grips with (give or take a few years) over a century +.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on May 15, 2018, 16:42:40 pm
if Austin plays Hoskins as his main striker than we are in a world of sh!t.

I think he will be a player that comes off the bench to run and alot. its a shame VV doesn't share the same work ethic. 


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Alfred on May 15, 2018, 17:08:37 pm
it is based on fact


The fact that he has requested a transfer is the only fact u require,  so u are quite correct.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ntfc01 on May 15, 2018, 18:48:11 pm
The fact that he has requested a transfer is the only fact u require,  so u are quite correct.

Just wondered as haven't heard anything in the chron or on the website saying this


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Alfred on May 15, 2018, 18:59:07 pm
Just wondered as haven't heard anything in the chron or on the website saying this

There are quite a few things not out in the press that have/ are / will happen.

For example why Facey was dropped from the squad being an example.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: JollyCobbler on May 15, 2018, 19:01:47 pm
There are quite a few things not out in the press that have/ are / will happen.

For example why Facey was dropped from the squad being an example.

So are you implying Facey is on his bike, too?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 15, 2018, 20:19:49 pm
So that's KvV, Facey and RO'D not going to be here next season? Any more?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 15, 2018, 20:23:41 pm
Better get used to it - Austin is obviously a big fan.
I notice Nathan Thomas has been released by Sheffield Utd - heíd be a cracking signing but will be in high demand. I agree with the poster who said about Clayton Donaldson - heíd be the ideal kind of target man striker we could do with.

If he plays hoskins up top (or anywhere other than being a squad player) je will be gone by xmas fact


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2018, 21:00:04 pm
If he plays hoskins up top (or anywhere other than being a squad player) je will be gone by xmas fact

Iím not necessarily disagreeing with you - just stating that DA (not JE!) obviously rates him. As many have said before Hoskins has great work rate and decent pace but absolutely no strikers instinct - we need at least 2 if not 3 good additions up top.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2018, 21:16:55 pm
Itís interesting that DA is quoted as saying he is expecting strategic rather than wholesale changes, this flies in the face of people on here suggesting that Taylor, facey and OíDonnell amongst others are going to leave - if this is going to be the case then weíre going to need more than strategic changes if weíre going to compete. If we were to start next season with Cornell, moloney, buchs, Barnett and Pierre as the back 5 weíll be lucky to finish mid table.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Alfred on May 16, 2018, 07:03:14 am
So are you implying Facey is on his bike, too?

No,  just an example of somthing that hasn't been made public


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Boot and shoe on May 16, 2018, 07:24:59 am
There are a number of players that have openly said they will not play at league 2 level .
Whether or not these players get moved depends on contract clauses and if they can get the same money elsewhere . We might also have to recover transfer fees into six figures .
Austin will not want those players around though - look at how Long and Van Veen were treated at the end of the season . Thereís a reason for that .
Unfortunately some of the committed ones are the ones you donít want to keep .
The defence worries me greatly , especially if someone comes in for Ash .


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: cox23jam on May 16, 2018, 08:44:04 am
Been thinking about this for a few days and reading other posts, I think we need to accept that we will not see a huge influx of players this summer. I suspect that a major factor in DA being given the job full time was that he believes the current squad is strong enough to get us out of league 2 and he is prepared to use youth players throughout the season.

Therefore I would expect (my opinion) to see O'Donnell leave, I think that cornell is sufficient back up and coddington/goff will be given to opportunity to become number 1 (promoting youth).

Kasim and Bowditch will leave as they are surplus to requirements.

If Facey leaves I would expect Moloney to be first choice and then possibly Mcwilliams jnr given a chance during pre-season to prove he merits a place in the first team squad.

I would like Van Veen to stay, I know he's looked useless but league 2 with Hoskins or Waters doing the running up top supporting I think he could score a lot of goals next season. However it would not surprise me to see him leave.

Finally, I would let Foley leave, whilst I think he is a good player I think we and specifically Mcwilliams would benefit from having a more experienced midfield general to learn from and to bring on and boss the midfiled when required.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 16, 2018, 08:56:13 am
Been thinking about this for a few days and reading other posts, I think we need to accept that we will not see a huge influx of players this summer. I suspect that a major factor in DA being given the job full time was that he believes the current squad is strong enough to get us out of league 2 and he is prepared to use youth players throughout the season.

Therefore I would expect (my opinion) to see O'Donnell leave, I think that cornell is sufficient back up and coddington/goff will be given to opportunity to become number 1 (promoting youth).

Kasim and Bowditch will leave as they are surplus to requirements.

If Facey leaves I would expect Moloney to be first choice and then possibly Mcwilliams jnr given a chance during pre-season to prove he merits a place in the first team squad.

I would like Van Veen to stay, I know he's looked useless but league 2 with Hoskins or Waters doing the running up top supporting I think he could score a lot of goals next season. However it would not surprise me to see him leave.

Finally, I would let Foley leave, whilst I think he is a good player I think we and specifically Mcwilliams would benefit from having a more experienced midfield general to learn from and to bring on and boss the midfiled when required.

It's all about opinions but I've got major reservations over moloney - I just think the injuries have taken their toll and he's not half the player he was. In fact we've possibly got issues at both fullbacks as buchs' has lost a yard of pace and has started to get exposed at the far post in the air. I'm just praying that we somehow keep hold of Taylor, jjot and crooks - I think those 3 would give us the basis of a very strong team for league 2. I would also keep hold of foley who is massively underrated and was under-utilised last season - a very good squad player and versatile. Without wanting to sound like a broken record it is up front and in the wide attacking positions that we need proven, experienced quality and these don't grow on trees.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Boot and shoe on May 16, 2018, 09:24:26 am
It's all about opinions but I've got major reservations over moloney - I just think the injuries have taken their toll and he's not half the player he was. In fact we've possibly got issues at both fullbacks as buchs' has lost a yard of pace and has started to get exposed at the far post in the air. I'm just praying that we somehow keep hold of Taylor, jjot and crooks - I think those 3 would give us the basis of a very strong team for league 2. I would also keep hold of foley who is massively underrated and was under-utilised last season - a very good squad player and versatile. Without wanting to sound like a broken record it is up front and in the wide attacking positions that we need proven, experienced quality and these don't grow on trees.
I agree .
Moloney is far too injury prone and is not the player he was .
Buchs is a back up player and is neither quick enough or good enough going forward .
Itís time for a change Iím afraid to say


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Turf Claret on May 16, 2018, 10:25:24 am
Well it seems the EFL have said the domestic transfer window has been open since May 7th. Any news on who NTFC have earmarked for departure or arrival?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 16, 2018, 12:06:16 pm
I'd be nervous to get rid of Buchs and Maloney - they may not be what they once were but I still think they can do a job in L2 when called upon.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 16, 2018, 16:10:39 pm
Some players that have recently been released / made available that could fit the bill of what we need and are realistic targets:

Scott Cuthbert of Luton - Powerful centre half
Steve Davies of Rochdale - Big strong centre forward who can finish
Anthony Wordsworth of Southend - Talented ball playing centre midfielder
Jermaine McGlashan of Southend - Pacy winger (not sure if bit past it now)
Byron Moore of Bristol Rovers - Pacy winger
Lee Brown of Southend - Solid left back
Zeli Ismael of Bury - Useful winger
Florent Cuvelier of Walsall - Useful centre midfielder
George Glendon of Fleetwood - Tricky midfielder
Wes Thomas of Oxford - Clinical striker would be excellent in league 2
Kai Naismith of Portsmouth - Quick and direct wide forward
Will Aimson of Blackpool - Useful centre back
George Francomb of Wimbledon - good wide player

And then there is a bunch of talented players available from Boro that we could try to tempt to cross the Nene: Jack Baldwin, Anthony Grant, Chris Forrester, Junior Morias, Michael Doughty, Jermaine Anderson.

Don't be surprised to see at least one of these names pop of at the Cobblers!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 16, 2018, 16:17:48 pm
I personally would make Steve Davies, Wes Thomas, and Anthony Wordsworth key targets out of them


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 16, 2018, 16:45:20 pm
Some players that have recently been released / made available that could fit the bill of what we need and are realistic targets:

Scott Cuthbert of Luton - Powerful centre half
Steve Davies of Rochdale - Big strong centre forward who can finish
Anthony Wordsworth of Southend - Talented ball playing centre midfielder
Jermaine McGlashan of Southend - Pacy winger (not sure if bit past it now)
Byron Moore of Bristol Rovers - Pacy winger
Lee Brown of Southend - Solid left back
Zeli Ismael of Bury - Useful winger
Florent Cuvelier of Walsall - Useful centre midfielder
George Glendon of Fleetwood - Tricky midfielder
Wes Thomas of Oxford - Clinical striker would be excellent in league 2
Kai Naismith of Portsmouth - Quick and direct wide forward
Will Aimson of Blackpool - Useful centre back
George Francomb of Wimbledon - good wide player

And then there is a bunch of talented players available from Boro that we could try to tempt to cross the Nene: Jack Baldwin, Anthony Grant, Chris Forrester, Junior Morias, Michael Doughty, Jermaine Anderson.

Don't be surprised to see at least one of these names pop of at the Cobblers!

I think there is a reason they are released from these clubs. I would set the bar higher!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 16, 2018, 18:28:39 pm
I think there is a reason they are released from these clubs. I would set the bar higher!

For the majority, the reason is probably that they're not good enough for League One. So it's a good job we're in League Two. Some players are just really good in League Two but can't make the step up to League One. According to fans and pundits, Kal Naismith was class the year we won the league, scored 15 goals from midfield including a screamer against us. Wes Thomas got into double figures this past season and has a good record at League Two level. Wordsworth has looked decent the few times I've seen him too.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 16, 2018, 18:36:50 pm
I think there is a reason they are released from these clubs. I would set the bar higher!

Of course there is a reason, but we are a league TWO team next season, and all of those players are leaving league ONE sides. There are some very good players within that list. Out of interest, could you name me a player that you think we should pursue? I'm interested to hear other perspectives!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ntfc01 on May 16, 2018, 19:49:28 pm
I think there is a reason they are released from these clubs. I would set the bar higher!
Just because they are available doesn't mean they have been released they may not want to sign a new contract, also because a player has been released doesn't make them rubbish either


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 16, 2018, 22:48:24 pm
I'd release Barnett & bring in Cuthbert from Luton...

Was their club captain & a leader/winner - exactly what we need in L2


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 16, 2018, 23:44:10 pm
Just because they are available doesn't mean they have been released they may not want to sign a new contract, also because a player has been released doesn't make them rubbish either

Exactly, John Marquis wasn't good enough for us when we were promoted to League One.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on May 17, 2018, 10:18:32 am
I'd take Naismith and Thomas from that list for starters.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 17, 2018, 10:33:02 am
Some great names available, be interesting to see if we manage to ship anybody out sharpish.

Have the feeling we won't be seeing any incoming until there are outgoings.

Would certainly have Cuthbert, Naismith or Thomas out of that list but would need them to be replacing one of our current crop, ie Thomas in for Van Veen etc.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Monkey on May 17, 2018, 12:57:38 pm
DA has said he wants a senior squad of 23 (3 GK, 20 outfield).

Assuming that is 2 players for each outfield position, and not including the youth crop, we aren't far off so I imagine there will just be a few like for like swaps (Bowditch, Kasim, KVV, Turnbull, Bunney if we can get rid of them, along with anyone else who doesnt want to be here) + an additional striker and winger


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 13:34:22 pm
DA has said he wants a senior squad of 23 (3 GK, 20 outfield).

Assuming that is 2 players for each outfield position, and not including the youth crop, we aren't far off so I imagine there will just be a few like for like swaps (Bowditch, Kasim, KVV, Turnbull, Bunney if we can get rid of them, along with anyone else who doesnt want to be here) + an additional striker and winger

If we only add 2 or 3 to what we have I can honestly see us doing a chesterfield.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: towcestercobbler on May 17, 2018, 13:37:21 pm
I'd like to see us resign Ben Tozer.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 17, 2018, 14:52:12 pm
If we only add 2 or 3 to what we have I can honestly see us doing a chesterfield.

So you believe the below team, as an example and including 2 new signings to meet your quota would get relegated from League 2?

O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Pierre Buchanan

O'Toole McWilliams

Crooks New Signing Powell

New Signing

Subs:
Cornell
Moloney
Turnbull
Foley
Bridge
Waters
Hoskins

I mean I'm not about to say that will rip the league up and I acknowledge that fan's confidence is rightly at a low ebb after relegation but come on! There is enough there to stay up and thus overachieve on your prediction.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 17, 2018, 15:42:04 pm
I think DA is right. There aren't many players in our squad that I don't particularly rate and most of them I think are potentially very good! The problem last season was they were played in roles that they didn't know/weren't suited to and as a result were pretty much hung out to dry by our first two useless managers.

The results(and more importantly the performances) DA got out of them in the last few matches suggests that he'll get them playing to their strengths and as a team, particularly once he's had a preseason to get his ideas fully into them.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Boot and shoe on May 17, 2018, 16:55:55 pm
Anyone that thinks we will sign Chris Long after his release from Burnley - think again .
No chance .


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: towcestercobbler on May 17, 2018, 17:59:11 pm
Francis Jno Baptiste on loan from Palace.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 17, 2018, 18:15:49 pm
Francis Jno Baptiste on loan from Palace.

I've not heard of him, what kind of player is he? Is this a rumour or a player you rate?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: bungle on May 17, 2018, 18:16:00 pm
So you believe the below team, as an example and including 2 new signings to meet your quota would get relegated from League 2?

O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Pierre Buchanan

O'Toole McWilliams

Crooks New Signing Powell

New Signing


It's hard to argue that this isn't a strong starting XI for league two. O'Toole and Crooks were in the PFA team of the year last time they played at this level. Pierre and Taylor are the type of centre halves who can dominate both boxes in the basement division. Facey and McWilliams have shown a lot of potential whilst playing at a higher level and, while he was exposed at times in L1, Buchanan should still have enough in the tank to deal with most L2 wingers. I also think that Powell could be a real threat if Austin can get him fit and confident.

The big question marks for me are: will they all still be here?  Will we sign the kind of Rico-style target man that you need at L2 level? And will we sign the kind of creative attacking midfielder who might the missing link in terms of our attacking play?







Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 18:42:27 pm
So you believe the below team, as an example and including 2 new signings to meet your quota would get relegated from League 2?

O'Donnell

Facey Taylor Pierre Buchanan

O'Toole McWilliams

Crooks New Signing Powell

New Signing

Subs:
Cornell
Moloney
Turnbull
Foley
Bridge
Waters
Hoskins

I mean I'm not about to say that will rip the league up and I acknowledge that fan's confidence is rightly at a low ebb after relegation but come on! There is enough there to stay up and thus overachieve on your prediction.


I bet that's exactly what chesterfield fans were saying this time last year?!?!?

Let's look at the facts ...

That defence conceded 77 goals this year, (5 under austin in 2 games against relegated teams). Now yes the quality of strikers and supply will be less good in league 2. But some of the defending we were exposed to last year it dosent matter what level you are playing at if you simply don't pick up your men you will conced goals! This is my biggest concern.

That midfield created little and set pieces and set piece delivery at times was shocking.

Then up top we only scored 43 league goals (only bury were worse). This was partly down to the lack of supply and creativity. Of those goals, longs have gone.

I hope I'm wrong, but we do need wholesale changes to compete at the top simply because the majority of what we have are simply not good enough 7 or 8 aside.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Alfred on May 17, 2018, 19:19:15 pm
I bet that's exactly what chesterfield fans were saying this time last year?!?!?

Let's look at the facts ...

That defence conceded 77 goals this year, (5 under austin in 2 games against relegated teams). Now yes the quality of strikers and supply will be less good in league 2. But some of the defending we were exposed to last year it dosent matter what level you are playing at if you simply don't pick up your men you will conced goals! This is my biggest concern.

That midfield created little and set pieces and set piece delivery at times was shocking.

Then up top we only scored 43 league goals (only bury were worse). This was partly down to the lack of supply and creativity. Of those goals, longs have gone.

I hope I'm wrong, but we do need wholesale changes to compete at the top simply because the majority of what we have are simply not good enough 7 or 8 aside.



I suspect the key question is  ..Do u blame JFHW for our poor performances??

If Austin can get them organised, motivated and finds a goalscorer and a Midfield general then that team wouldn't  be far off


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 19:47:45 pm
I suspect the key question is  ..Do u blame JFHW for our poor performances??

If Austin can get them organised, motivated and finds a goalscorer and a Midfield general then that team wouldn't  be far off

Yes Jimmy shoulders an awful lot of the blame, but as Deano proved in the last few games you can't take that same group of players that are not good enough, wave a magic wand and make them good players over night. Results and performances Plymouth aside confirm they are not good enough and yes a midfield general and forward will help we simply need more. The reality is 12-14 in our squad are not good enough, if we are going to be competing where we all want to be then these need shipping out and replacing with improved quality.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ClarenceUpFront on May 17, 2018, 20:22:47 pm
Yes Jimmy shoulders an awful lot of the blame, but as Deano proved in the last few games you can't take that same group of players that are not good enough, wave a magic wand and make them good players over night. Results and performances Plymouth aside confirm they are not good enough and yes a midfield general and forward will help we simply need more. The reality is 12-14 in our squad are not good enough, if we are going to be competing where we all want to be then these need shipping out and replacing with improved quality.

Exeter v Lincoln play-off on now, the commentator has just referred to Boateng as 'the man' for Exeter, who 'makes things happen' for them. Remember him in midfield alongside O'Toole a little more than a year ago now? Not good enough was he? Yet here he is as a key creative midfielder for promotion hopeful's Exeter. This might give you some idea of the drop in quality going into league 2.

Crooks, Taylor, O'Toole, McWilliams, Facey, O'Donnell will be stand-out players in that division, as in, potential PFA team of the year contenders. Powell, Buchanan, Maloney, Philips, Hoskins, Barnett and yes, even Waters and the much maligned Bowditch are more than good enough to compete in this League. It is essential to bring in strikers this summer for sure, but if they are then I expect a top 7 finish minimum next year.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 20:39:02 pm
Exeter v Lincoln play-off on now, the commentator has just referred to Boateng as 'the man' for Exeter, who 'makes things happen' for them. Remember him in midfield alongside O'Toole a little more than a year ago now? Not good enough was he? Yet here he is as a key creative midfielder for promotion hopeful's Exeter. This might give you some idea of the drop in quality going into league 2.

Crooks, Taylor, O'Toole, McWilliams, Facey, O'Donnell will be stand-out players in that division, as in, potential PFA team of the year contenders. Powell, Buchanan, Maloney, Philips, Hoskins, Barnett and yes, even Waters and the much maligned Bowditch are more than good enough to compete in this League. It is essential to bring in strikers this summer for sure, but if they are then I expect a top 7 finish minimum next year.

I think boateng had some quality about him and we saw glimpses of it here, he'd be another one where you would question his attitude week in week out but he did have some quality.

Of the six players mentioned I agree they would get into any top end lg2 team and are more than good enough. Question is how many of those will we keep?

The problem for me our the rest, buchs and maloney provide decent squad options, even powell would be okay in this capacity, but a squad of 8-10 decent players (assuming they do actually stay) imo won't get us all that far.

I know I do sound like a broken record, but you can guaranteed chesterfield were thinking, we will be up there challenging with this squad, the quality in this league will be worse. They didn't address the problems that relegated them from lg1 and tge rest is history.

I do agree the striker positions will be key and it's something that deano needs to get right!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 17, 2018, 20:48:42 pm
I just hope that DA is able to get his business done as early as possible so he can get what he wants in place for the start of preseason - my worry with all of the various rumours of some players wanting out is that this isn't going to be possible and it will drag out. If there are players who think they're too good for league two or they have relegation release clauses I would like to think that they are going nowhere unless other clubs match our valuation. Likewise if there are players that DA wants to move on it's not as easy as that - there has to be a club/s willing to take them off our hands and match the wages we are paying them.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 17, 2018, 20:55:09 pm
Boateng has just scored a cracking goal for Exeter. Let's hope they get promoted!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 17, 2018, 21:01:16 pm
Boarding just scored a cracking goal for Exeter. Let's hope they get promoted!

Can't believe this is the boateng that we had last year - it just shows that (as with keshi Anderson) it's so often the right player at the wrong time, having said that perhaps the penny finally dropped with him when he was released by palace as he looked to have a bit of an attitude. By the way I'd rather play Exeter in league two next season - if they miss out and tisdale leaves I can see it going a bit pear shaped.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 17, 2018, 21:32:33 pm
I bet that's exactly what chesterfield fans were saying this time last year?!?!?

Let's look at the facts ...

That defence conceded 77 goals this year, (5 under austin in 2 games against relegated teams). Now yes the quality of strikers and supply will be less good in league 2. But some of the defending we were exposed to last year it dosent matter what level you are playing at if you simply don't pick up your men you will conced goals! This is my biggest concern.

That midfield created little and set pieces and set piece delivery at times was shocking.

Then up top we only scored 43 league goals (only bury were worse). This was partly down to the lack of supply and creativity. Of those goals, longs have gone.

I hope I'm wrong, but we do need wholesale changes to compete at the top simply because the majority of what we have are simply not good enough 7 or 8 aside.

I have no idea what Chesterfield fans were saying. Considering they’d just finished rock bottom, 13 points from safety I doubt they were too optimistic. Interesting that you think they’re our comparison point rather than Swindon who finished 3rd bottom like us.

Defence was definitely a problem but it’s simplistic at best to attribute that solely to the back 4. As a team we sat very deep and had pretty much 0 protection with Grimes being used as the deepest midfielder. Do you think the same back 4 in a more proactive team with 2 of Foley, Facey & McWilliams playing ahead of them would have conceded 77 goals, honestly?

The midfield wasn’t setup to create, it was all about stopping the opposition...badly, read Powell’s comments on the wide players roles under JFH & Austin.

Set pieces, well  Grimes has gone so we’ll have to see if there is a change there. Let’s see if Austin’s assistant brings anything to the table in that regard.

You’ve answered the lack of goals yourself.

As I said earlier I’m not about to say the players we have left are about to storm league 2 but I’d happily take a bet that we won’t go down next year if the only squad changes next year are 3 additions as you said. Understand the mood being low and there being a lack of optimism but you’ve blown things way out of proportion here imo

Edit: Just noticed your other post saying 12-14 aren’t good enough for league 2, can you enlighten me as to who these are and what that’s based on?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 21:37:25 pm
I bet that's exactly what chesterfield fans were saying this time last year?!?!?

Let's look at the facts ...

That defence conceded 77 goals this year, (5 under austin in 2 games against relegated teams). Now yes the quality of strikers and supply will be less good in league 2. But some of the defending we were exposed to last year it dosent matter what level you are playing at if you simply don't pick up your men you will conced goals! This is my biggest concern.

That midfield created little and set pieces and set piece delivery at times was shocking.

Then up top we only scored 43 league goals (only bury were worse). This was partly down to the lack of supply and creativity. Of those goals, longs have gone.

I hope I'm wrong, but we do need wholesale changes to compete at the top simply because the majority of what we have are simply not good enough 7 or 8 aside.



Obviously you didn't watch the last four games...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 21:55:59 pm
I have no idea what Chesterfield fans were saying. Considering theyíd just finished rock bottom, 13 points from safety I doubt they were too optimistic. Interesting that you think theyíre our comparison point rather than Swindon who finished 3rd bottom like us.

Defence was definitely a problem but itís simplistic at best to attribute that solely to the back 4. As a team we sat very deep and had pretty much 0 protection with Grimes being used as the deepest midfielder. Do you think the same back 4 in a more proactive team with 2 of Foley, Facey & McWilliams playing ahead of them would have conceded 77 goals, honestly?

The midfield wasnít setup to create, it was all about stopping the opposition...badly, read Powellís comments on the wide players roles under JFH & Austin.

Set pieces, well  Grimes has gone so weíll have to see if there is a change there. Letís see if Austinís assistant brings anything to the table in that regard.

Youíve answered the lack of goals yourself.

As I said earlier Iím not about to say the players we have left are about to storm league 2 but Iíd happily take a bet that we wonít go down next year if the only squad changes next year are 3 additions as you said. Understand the mood being low and there being a lack of optimism but youíve blown things way out of proportion here imo

Edit: Just noticed your other post saying 12-14 arenít good enough for league 2, can you enlighten me as to who these are and what thatís based on?

Agree with a lot of what you have said and the lack of screening across the back four was also a real issue - I have however seen so many goals conceeded through basic lacking of marking etc

The issue will be for me too that from Facey, Crooks, O'Toole,  Taylor, Mcwilliams and O'donnell - how many of those will still be here come early august? - I would say we will do well to keep hold of 50% of those, I think its inevitable there will be movement on a greater scale than just 3 or 4 and I believe we need it.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 22:06:06 pm
Obviously you didn't watch the last four games...

Yes I saw the majority - Breaking them down ...

Bury - Struggled to beat the worse team in the league - conceeding 2 goals in the process - Performance was below par at best I'd say

Plymouth - We were excellent, played some fantastic attacking football and were unfortunate not to win by a bigger margin - Excellent

Walsall - defeat - below average performance by all acoounts- didn't do anywhere near enough to win

Oldham - again below par perfromancew against a team we will be playing next year - again sloppy defending to conceed two goals.


I suppose 1 in 4 is not too bad ;0)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 22:13:44 pm
As I said, you wasn't watching the last four games...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 22:24:11 pm
As I said, you wasn't watching the last four games...

Well thats your opinion of which you are entitled too, as am I mine.





Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 17, 2018, 22:40:48 pm
Agree with a lot of what you have said and the lack of screening across the back four was also a real issue - I have however seen so many goals conceeded through basic lacking of marking etc

The issue will be for me too that from Facey, Crooks, O'Toole,  Taylor, Mcwilliams and O'donnell - how many of those will still be here come early august? - I would say we will do well to keep hold of 50% of those, I think its inevitable there will be movement on a greater scale than just 3 or 4 and I believe we need it.

Youíre moving the goalposts now, you said weíd get relegated if all we did was add 3 or 4 to what we have. At best thatís hyperbole!

Of course if a number of our better players leave a hell of a lot will rest on how we replace them, as is the case for every club in the land.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 22:54:01 pm
Youíre moving the goalposts now, you said weíd get relegated if all we did was add 3 or 4 to what we have. At best thatís hyperbole!

Of course if a number of our better players leave a hell of a lot will rest on how we replace them, as is the case for every club in the land.

I stand by the fact we will struggle if we only sign 3-4 players and no one leaves. That would give us a bare decent 10-11.

That said given where we are it us inevitable there will be departures,  some we will be pleased to see (Kasim, Bowditch etc) Some will be not what we want to here (moat likely O Donnell, Facey etc). Time will tell and as you say how we replace them is key.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 17, 2018, 23:35:38 pm
Obviously you didn't watch the last four games...

I doubt if Glastonbury watched many at all!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 17, 2018, 23:42:49 pm
I doubt if Glastonbury watched many at all!

😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Boot and shoe on May 17, 2018, 23:45:36 pm
I keep reading posts that say players that werenít good enough in division1 will be fine next season .
I donít agree .
To be successful you need a side that is better than division 2 standard.
The likes of Bowditch , Kasim , Buchanan and Moloney will not be good enough and others such as Powell , Hoskins and foley will have to up their game .
You have to be up for it in that league and Iím not sure our players are built that way


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 18, 2018, 08:54:12 am
The problem is none of us really know do we. Like ohers have said it would be hard to get upset about any of them leaving given how bad last season. On the other I can't shake the nagging doubt that this group was completely misused and inhibited by two poor managers. There is a part of me that wants to see them right the wrongs and get us back up.

Look at League 1 last season, Wigan and especially Blackburn didn't make wholesale changes when they went down, just added a few and kept the nucleus together and went straight back up. I'm also sure plenty of you can give me examples of teams who didn't make changes after relegation and kept sinking.

Players mentioned as not good enough, like Kasim, Bowditch, Powell, Turnbull, van Veen and Foley, have all been regulars in teams who've done well in League 1, even played a decent  number in the championship as well in some cases. Crooks, Pierre, O'Toole have all been in League 2 team of the year. On top of that Buchs, Moloney, Hoskins all played a good number of games for the team that walked League 2 not long ago.

Possibly because I'm sick of wholesale changes every window but for some reason I really want to believe the talent is there. If used in the right way and with 3 or 4 decent additions (and a few departures) we could have a 'good' season.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 18, 2018, 08:57:14 am
Harry Toffolo is a decent left back available after release from Millwall, we would need to ship out Buchs (probably no chance) or Bunney (more likely) first though.

 


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on May 18, 2018, 10:06:20 am
League 2, piece of p*ss !! JJ Hooper even managed to score a hatrick in Grimsby's last match, I rest my case.



P.S. As long as Cornell is NOT our first choice keeper !


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 12:46:59 pm
The priority has to be a couple of strikers.  I think VV is dead man walking but reliance on goals from Sam Hoskins ( 5 in two seasons) finally coming good is the stuff of dreams. 


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 18, 2018, 12:54:31 pm
Would people have Chris Long back?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/ (http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/)

Whilst I think he did well to hit nine goals in an awful team, he also missed a few and there are some question marks about his attitude.

Could we afford him and could Deano make him better? And would he want to come here?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Poggy on May 18, 2018, 13:00:29 pm
I weren't too impressed with his finishing. The misses against Rochdale (away), Oxford (home) and Bristol Rovers (away) cost us dear.

I think he's the type of player who could do well in a better performing team but he doesn't have pace or great ability to hold the ball up or the capability to bully a centre back so it's a no from me.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Boot and shoe on May 18, 2018, 13:29:59 pm
Would people have Chris Long back?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/ (http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/)

Whilst I think he did well to hit nine goals in an awful team, he also missed a few and there are some question marks about his attitude.

Could we afford him and could Deano make him better? And would he want to come here?
There was a reason Long wasnít involved at the end of the season .
He wonít be returning !


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 18, 2018, 13:31:55 pm
Would people have Chris Long back?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/ (http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16232264.Trio_depart_Turf_Moor/)

Whilst I think he did well to hit nine goals in an awful team, he also missed a few and there are some question marks about his attitude.

Could we afford him and could Deano make him better? And would he want to come here?

I'd imagine he'd find himself a League One club quite comfortably. If he did fancy coming back, I'd have him back without hesitation. He'll be a regular scorer at League One for years.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 18, 2018, 14:13:16 pm
There was a reason Long wasnít involved at the end of the season .
He wonít be returning !

Is this another of your cryptic posts or do you want to enlighten us?  ;D

Everyone knows something was going on behind the scenes when Long wasn't involved at the end of the season.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 14:31:52 pm
There was a reason Long wasnít involved at the end of the season .
He wonít be returning !

Instead we had to endure the delights of hoskins!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 14:33:08 pm
League 2, piece of p*ss !! JJ Hooper even managed to score a hatrick in Grimsby's last match, I rest my case.



P.S. As long as Cornell is NOT our first choice keeper !

Yeah it's so crap we bounced back straight away last time we were here didn't we 🙈🙈🙈


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: JollyCobbler on May 18, 2018, 14:51:19 pm
There was a reason Long wasnít involved at the end of the season .
He wonít be returning !

So why don't you enlighten us as to exactly what the issue was?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 18, 2018, 15:59:16 pm
Nicky Law and Tony McMahon have been released by Bradford.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 18, 2018, 16:55:00 pm
Nicky Law and Tony McMahon have been released by Bradford.

Two very good players! Good shout Irchy


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: FezNTFC on May 18, 2018, 17:32:12 pm
Nicky Law and Tony McMahon have been released by Bradford.
Always been impressed whenever I've seen Law, and just the kind of centre midfielder we could do with in League Two. Would gladly take him.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 18, 2018, 17:33:53 pm
Part of me feels like DA thinks this team is better than it is judging by some of his comments. We had the worst defence in the league last season and only Bury scored less than us. Hasselbainkís tactics canít be solely to blame for that. There was a clear lack of quality in the playing staff throughout the season. If DA doesnít significantly add to this squad I can see us struggling again. I know itís a lower division but the confidence around the squad canít be that high, these players have just been relegated.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 18:47:09 pm
Nicky Law and Tony McMahon have been released by Bradford.

Agree both these would add quality to our squad


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 18, 2018, 20:30:29 pm
Part of me feels like DA thinks this team is better than it is judging by some of his comments. We had the worst defence in the league last season and only Bury scored less than us. Hasselbainkís tactics canít be solely to blame for that. There was a clear lack of quality in the playing staff throughout the season. If DA doesnít significantly add to this squad I can see us struggling again. I know itís a lower division but the confidence around the squad canít be that high, these players have just been relegated.

Donít fall into the trap of thinking Austinís public statements are what heís also saying privately. That said he clearly identified a confidence issue when he stepped in, talking the players up is part of the process of turning that around. The way Jimmy set us up, always worried about the opposition was constantly hammering a message home to the players that he thought they werenít good enough, itís no wonder that settled into their subconscious. Austin seems to be taking the opposite approach.

Interested to know which players you genuinely feel canít hold their own in league2?

As I said earlier in the thread Iím not about to tip us to win the league without decent additions but I really donít see us struggling in the bottom half.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 20:33:26 pm
Part of me feels like DA thinks this team is better than it is judging by some of his comments. We had the worst defence in the league last season and only Bury scored less than us. Hasselbainkís tactics canít be solely to blame for that. There was a clear lack of quality in the playing staff throughout the season. If DA doesnít significantly add to this squad I can see us struggling again. I know itís a lower division but the confidence around the squad canít be that high, these players have just been relegated.

Agree with a lot of this, a lot of lasts years issues are not just going to disappear because we are playing a level lower


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: TownOwl on May 18, 2018, 21:13:22 pm
Agree with a lot of this, a lot of lasts years issues are not just going to disappear because we are playing a level lower

No but add in that JFH has gone and...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 21:41:09 pm
No but add in that JFH has gone and...

Agree to some extent but as I said before a lot of the issues were still there after jimmy left. So yes he was a major problem and reason for our relegation however the lack of actual quality in our squad played a major part


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 21:47:05 pm
Agree to some extent but as I said before a lot of the issues were still there after jimmy left. So yes he was a major problem and reason for our relegation however the lack of actual quality in our squad played a major part

Anyway what will be will be and you can only hope DA gets it right. Back to the thread title, what about Tom Hopper released by scunny today, Leicester boy - one of those involved in the incident with Adam Smith. Might well score goals in lg2?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 18, 2018, 21:49:28 pm
Anyway what will be will be and you can only hope DA gets it right. Back to the thread title, what about Tom Hopper released by scunny today, Leicester boy - one of those involved in the incident with Adam Smith. Might well score goals in lg2?

Luke Williams also released by scunny (remember him), injuries aside had some creativity and quality


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: TownOwl on May 19, 2018, 09:49:04 am
Class player, but he does seem to be injured more than not.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 19, 2018, 12:06:16 pm
Donít fall into the trap of thinking Austinís public statements are what heís also saying privately. That said he clearly identified a confidence issue when he stepped in, talking the players up is part of the process of turning that around. The way Jimmy set us up, always worried about the opposition was constantly hammering a message home to the players that he thought they werenít good enough, itís no wonder that settled into their subconscious. Austin seems to be taking the opposite approach.

Interested to know which players you genuinely feel canít hold their own in league2?

As I said earlier in the thread Iím not about to tip us to win the league without decent additions but I really donít see us struggling in the bottom half.

Heís playing a very dangerous game if what heís saying publicly is different to what he plans to do. But in any case regardless of what he thinks, I honestly believe this squad will struggle if we donít add significantly. There were so many games last year where the opposition looked like they were on a different level quality-wise. And itís not even just the quality, this current squad is so used to losing. Itíll take some fresh faces to turn that around. I think weíre also lacking some real grafters. Based on what Iíve seen so far the only players I expect to shine in league two are JJOT and ROD.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 19, 2018, 12:59:06 pm
Iíd like us sign players with great names. Disappointed we never signed Jamie Victory, Danny Invincible and Jermaine McSporran.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: SteveRiches on May 19, 2018, 13:23:12 pm
I'm just happy that Dean Austin is not happy with relying on loan players. It's logical because so much of what happens on the pitch depends on mental attitude - you fight every inch of the way for your home club - and we are not the home club for loan players: their heart & minds belong elsewhere.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 19, 2018, 15:21:04 pm
Heís playing a very dangerous game if what heís saying publicly is different to what he plans to do. But in any case regardless of what he thinks, I honestly believe this squad will struggle if we donít add significantly. There were so many games last year where the opposition looked like they were on a different level quality-wise. And itís not even just the quality, this current squad is so used to losing. Itíll take some fresh faces to turn that around. I think weíre also lacking some real grafters. Based on what Iíve seen so far the only players I expect to shine in league two are JJOT and ROD.

I never said he is saying things that differ from his plans, more that he may well be talking the players up publicly while having altogether more Ďopení conversations, either with the players, his staff or the board. Managers protect their players all the time!

So you donít believe any of Facey, Taylor, Pierre, McWilliams, Crooks, Foley, Hoskins, Powell for example are good enough for league2? You said weíd struggle, by which I assume you meant bottom 5 or 6?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Zen Master on May 19, 2018, 15:41:47 pm
We donít do mid table obscurity so weíll be knocking on the promotion/playoff door or bricking it by the trapdoor.

Teynlife


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Air-Dan on May 19, 2018, 15:43:00 pm
We have the core of a team that will do well in League Two.

What we are missing is a couple of wingers and a couple of strikers.

In short, over the course of 12 months we have progressed literally nowhere. But I don't think we've taken that much of a step backwards either. We've paid the price for not addressing our flaws last summer (relegation). Hopefully we address them now.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 19, 2018, 17:54:30 pm
I never said he is saying things that differ from his plans, more that he may well be talking the players up publicly while having altogether more Ďopení conversations, either with the players, his staff or the board. Managers protect their players all the time!

So you donít believe any of Facey, Taylor, Pierre, McWilliams, Crooks, Foley, Hoskins, Powell for example are good enough for league2? You said weíd struggle, by which I assume you meant bottom 5 or 6?

I think this is steering away from my point which is I hope he makes substantial changes to the squad because I believe weíll struggle if he doesnít. The reason I feel that way is because a team that concedes 77 goals and loses 20 odd games doesnít magically gain the confidence to start winning games even in a lower league. Hoskins is overrated and Powell had about 3 good games last season. Crooks did nothing all season except pick up stupid red cards. Facey was steady, but nothing special. Iíll give Pierre and McWillams the benefit of the doubt because they didnít play much last season. I donít see much fight in this squad either which is massive in League Two. We need some more hard workers in the team. As someone said before, many of the issues of last year arenít going to just disappear because weíve dropped a division.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 19, 2018, 19:22:20 pm
I think this is steering away from my point which is I hope he makes substantial changes to the squad because I believe weíll struggle if he doesnít. The reason I feel that way is because a team that concedes 77 goals and loses 20 odd games doesnít magically gain the confidence to start winning games even in a lower league. Hoskins is overrated and Powell had about 3 good games last season. Crooks did nothing all season except pick up stupid red cards. Facey was steady, but nothing special. Iíll give Pierre and McWillams the benefit of the doubt because they didnít play much last season. I donít see much fight in this squad either which is massive in League Two. We need some more hard workers in the team. As someone said before, many of the issues of last year arenít going to just disappear because weíve dropped a division.

Pretty good summary and quite right to point out the 77 goals against. Clearly the defence was an issue and still is. Bit harsh on Crooks and McWilliams but probably about right Hoskins,Powell and maybe Pierre. We did not have a stand out player but plenty disappointed even from the first game. As for the Managers JED managed to oversee some haphazard signings as did JFH. JFH had plenty time to rectify the season but failed to galvanise the team.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 19, 2018, 19:29:15 pm
I think this is steering away from my point which is I hope he makes substantial changes to the squad because I believe we’ll struggle if he doesn’t. The reason I feel that way is because a team that concedes 77 goals and loses 20 odd games doesn’t magically gain the confidence to start winning games even in a lower league. Hoskins is overrated and Powell had about 3 good games last season. Crooks did nothing all season except pick up stupid red cards. Facey was steady, but nothing special. I’ll give Pierre and McWillams the benefit of the doubt because they didn’t play much last season. I don’t see much fight in this squad either which is massive in League Two. We need some more hard workers in the team. As someone said before, many of the issues of last year aren’t going to just disappear because we’ve dropped a division.

I’m not sure it is steering away at all, I disagree with you that’s all. Should we keep the core of the squad, add a winger, an attacking midfielder and a couple of strikers I think we could do well.

Your point about teams not magically doing well after relegation, tell that to Wigan, Blackburn and Rotherham who all had successful seasons after relegation without wholesale changes. Rotherham conceded nearly 100 when they got relegated.

You’re judging the players on what you saw in League 1, I asked if you thought they weren’t good enough for League2. I disagree with your view of Crooks but we all see things differently of course. The fact that you can not argue against was that the last time he played in League 2 he was in the team of the year, don’t tell me he can’t cut it at that level.

Hoskins may be overrated, but should be good enough to be a valuable squad player in Lg2, Wilder certainly thought so. Re Powell, agree that he didn’t pull up any trees and is frustrating but his comments on JFH v Austin and the different ask of the wide players were in line with what I thought, the shackles were on. He’s managed to sustain the whole of his career above Lg2, there must be some reason for that?

Hard-workers? McWilliams, Foley, O’Toole, Hoskins? I’d even argue Crooks is very good at getting about the pitch, he has quite a languid style which I think is deceiving.

As I’ve said I understand people having a downer on the players after last season but I still believe the manager was the major contributing factor to our relegation. I may be proven wrong, certainly wouldn’t be the first time but that’s my view.

Anyway, that’s a lot of words to say I disagree with you. Be boring if we all agreed  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 19, 2018, 19:56:18 pm
I'm just happy that Dean Austin is not happy with relying on loan players. It's logical because so much of what happens on the pitch depends on mental attitude - you fight every inch of the way for your home club - and we are not the home club for loan players: their heart & minds belong elsewhere.

I agree about the mental attitude except that loan players are obliged to perform in order to show they are worthy of a place in a higher league.
Thereís also the point that those with any sort of attitude are rejected by the parent club long before the loan process begins. I canít think of any loan players weíve had with attitude problems.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 19, 2018, 20:09:11 pm
Iím not sure it is steering away at all, I disagree with you thatís all. Should we keep the core of the squad, add a winger, an attacking midfielder and a couple of strikers I think we could do well.

Your point about teams not magically doing well after relegation, tell that to Wigan, Blackburn and Rotherham who all had successful seasons after relegation without wholesale changes. Rotherham conceded nearly 100 when they got relegated.

Youíre judging the players on what you saw in League 1, I asked if you thought they werenít good enough for League2. I disagree with your view of Crooks but we all see things differently of course. The fact that you can not argue against was that the last time he played in League 2 he was in the team of the year, donít tell me he canít cut it at that level.

Hoskins may be overrated, but should be good enough to be a valuable squad player in Lg2, Wilder certainly thought so. Re Powell, agree that he didnít pull up any trees and is frustrating but his comments on JFH v Austin and the different ask of the wide players were in line with what I thought, the shackles were on. Heís managed to sustain the whole of his career above Lg2, there must be some reason for that?

Hard-workers? McWilliams, Foley, OíToole, Hoskins? Iíd even argue Crooks is very good at getting about the pitch, he has quite a languid style which I think is deceiving.

As Iíve said I understand people having a downer on the players after last season but I still believe the manager was the major contributing factor to our relegation. I may be proven wrong, certainly wouldnít be the first time but thatís my view.

Anyway, thatís a lot of words to say I disagree with you. Be boring if we all agreed  ;D

I think we clearly just rate the players differently. Crooks certainly wouldn't fall into the 'hard-worker' category for me personally. I don't think you want to put much blame on the players for the relegation but the reality is the issues of last year won't just magically disappear.

Rotherham made about 12 signings last summer. Wigan made 10, so I think your argument is completely void there. Bringing Blackburn into it is laughable really given they spent close to £1 million in the summer.

Bottom line is there is significant work to be done with the squad, and even putting aside technical ability there is also the mental fragility that will require fresh faces to help change as well. It's foolish to think a team that concedes 77 goals in a season doesn't need significant change. I'm not saying the whole team needs ripping apart but there is plenty to do.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest3040 on May 19, 2018, 20:10:01 pm
I don' t think we need panic about next season, will easily finish top three with a couple of good additions up front and out wide.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 19, 2018, 21:13:52 pm
I think we clearly just rate the players differently. Crooks certainly wouldn't fall into the 'hard-worker' category for me personally. I don't think you want to put much blame on the players for the relegation but the reality is the issues of last year won't just magically disappear.

Rotherham made about 12 signings last summer. Wigan made 10, so I think your argument is completely void there. Bringing Blackburn into it is laughable really given they spent close to £1 million in the summer.

Bottom line is there is significant work to be done with the squad, and even putting aside technical ability there is also the mental fragility that will require fresh faces to help change as well. It's foolish to think a team that concedes 77 goals in a season doesn't need significant change. I'm not saying the whole team needs ripping apart but there is plenty to do.

We definitely do, which is obviously fair enough, especially given how last season went. Youíre right, I definitely put the balance of blame with our manager(s), JFH frustrated me greatly. Maybe but you canít claim that as fact, we simply donít know yet.

Rotherham may have made a lot of signings but 3 of their regular back 4 and 2 of 5heir regular midfield were with them the season before, they went from conceding 90+ goals and relegation to conceding 53 and a playoff final, doesnít sound like magic or a major rebuild, maybe a competent manager and a lower level. Wigan might have signed a few but over half their regulars were with them in the championship. Nothing laughable about including Blackburn based on spend £750,000 of that was 1 player, something like 8 of their top 11 appearance makers were with them the year before so theyíre a very good example.

Fair enough, I definitely agree about fragility on the mental side but I still think this had so much to do with JFH negative approach seeping into the mindset of the players, if youíre constantly told youíre not good enough to go toe to toe with the opposition youíre going to start believing it. Remember JFH made changes for the home game against Bury and celebrated how it negated their strength, despite the fact we didnít lay a glove on the leagues worst team on our own patch.

Who stays in your eyes then because in your first lament you only said ROD & JJOT were good enough to shine in League 2, that very much sounds like we need ripping apart in your view?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ntfc01 on May 19, 2018, 21:28:54 pm
Heís playing a very dangerous game if what heís saying publicly is different to what he plans to do. But in any case regardless of what he thinks, I honestly believe this squad will struggle if we donít add significantly. There were so many games last year where the opposition looked like they were on a different level quality-wise. And itís not even just the quality, this current squad is so used to losing. Itíll take some fresh faces to turn that around. I think weíre also lacking some real grafters. Based on what Iíve seen so far the only players I expect to shine in league two are JJOT and ROD.

The squad already stands at 25 we aren't going to add significantly unless he can get rid of half of them


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 19, 2018, 21:36:37 pm
We definitely do, which is obviously fair enough, especially given how last season went. Youíre right, I definitely put the balance of blame with our manager(s), JFH frustrated me greatly. Maybe but you canít claim that as fact, we simply donít know yet.

Rotherham may have made a lot of signings but 3 of their regular back 4 and 2 of 5heir regular midfield were with them the season before, they went from conceding 90+ goals and relegation to conceding 53 and a playoff final, doesnít sound like magic or a major rebuild, maybe a competent manager and a lower level. Wigan might have signed a few but over half their regulars were with them in the championship. Nothing laughable about including Blackburn based on spend £750,000 of that was 1 player, something like 8 of their top 11 appearance makers were with them the year before so theyíre a very good example.

Fair enough, I definitely agree about fragility on the mental side but I still think this had so much to do with JFH negative approach seeping into the mindset of the players, if youíre constantly told youíre not good enough to go toe to toe with the opposition youíre going to start believing it. Remember JFH made changes for the home game against Bury and celebrated how it negated their strength, despite the fact we didnít lay a glove on the leagues worst team on our own patch.

Who stays in your eyes then because in your first lament you only said ROD & JJOT were good enough to shine in League 2, that very much sounds like we need ripping apart in your view?

So basically half of Rotherham's starting eleven was different? Is that not substantial change? My point is they all made significant changes to the playing squad. I've never advocated for wholesale changes, just significant change.

Listen, everyone thought the squad was good enough to shine last season and look what happened. I'm intrigued to know what is making some people (not necessarily you specifically) so confident they'll do ok next season after being so poor? And I never said they were the only ones good enough to shine. I said they are the only ones I expect to shine. They're the only ones where I would be quite surprised if they didn't shine based on the garbage I've just seen for the past 9 months from most of the others. I think the final four games has somewhat papered over some big cracks.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 19, 2018, 21:38:38 pm
The squad already stands at 25 we aren't going to add significantly unless he can get rid of half of them

By significant I mean 5/6 first-teamers, not a complete upheaval.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 19, 2018, 23:43:26 pm
So basically half of Rotherham's starting eleven was different? Is that not substantial change? My point is they all made significant changes to the playing squad. I've never advocated for wholesale changes, just significant change.

Listen, everyone thought the squad was good enough to shine last season and look what happened. I'm intrigued to know what is making some people (not necessarily you specifically) so confident they'll do ok next season after being so poor? And I never said they were the only ones good enough to shine. I said they are the only ones I expect to shine. They're the only ones where I would be quite surprised if they didn't shine based on the garbage I've just seen for the past 9 months from most of the others. I think the final four games has somewhat papered over some big cracks.

Nope, 5 of their back 7 was the same, as one of your points was the number of goals conceded and they’d conceded nearly 100 the season before I didn’t look at their team further forward.

You make a good point about last year. I’m not sure I expected us to shine as such but certainly thought a 12-16 place finish was well within the realms of possible, clearly got that wrong but I still blame JED & JFH. I don’t even know if I’m confident of a good season now but there is a part of me that wants to see what these players can do under a manager that doesn’t suck the life out of them.

You may be right that the last few games (Plymouth in particular) could be a false dawn but the reason it resonated with so many fans is that the gloom under JFH was obvious, Austin lifted it just by taking the shackles off and making sensible decisions that most had called for. Possible reasons for optimism, possible false dawn.

Anyway, if most of the rumours are true about all the departures you’re like to get the significant change you’re looking for. Let’s hope Austin’s a bit better at recruitment than the last 3 guys.

Thanks for the reasoned debate, always the best part of this site



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 19, 2018, 23:54:42 pm
By significant I mean 5/6 first-teamers, not a complete upheaval.

His main problem is to sort out the defence and according to a few sooth sayers on here we might lose ROD and Taylor who ironically were part of the problem. Even during our championship season the defense threw up wobblies at least in two games.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 20, 2018, 01:20:55 am
Nope, 5 of their back 7 was the same, as one of your points was the number of goals conceded and theyíd conceded nearly 100 the season before I didnít look at their team further forward.

You make a good point about last year. Iím not sure I expected us to shine as such but certainly thought a 12-16 place finish was well within the realms of possible, clearly got that wrong but I still blame JED & JFH. I donít even know if Iím confident of a good season now but there is a part of me that wants to see what these players can do under a manager that doesnít suck the life out of them.

You may be right that the last few games (Plymouth in particular) could be a false dawn but the reason it resonated with so many fans is that the gloom under JFH was obvious, Austin lifted it just by taking the shackles off and making sensible decisions that most had called for. Possible reasons for optimism, possible false dawn.

Anyway, if most of the rumours are true about all the departures youíre like to get the significant change youíre looking for. Letís hope Austinís a bit better at recruitment than the last 3 guys.

Thanks for the reasoned debate, always the best part of this site



I honestly hope you're right about the likes of Powell, Hoskins and Crooks but I just think there are too many overrated players in this squad. Many of which haven't shown me much to suggest that they'll be that effective next year. I hope I'm wrong. Whilst I appreciate the drop in division I'm also not convinced there's a massive difference in quality between the lower end of league one and the top half of league two. You see so many sides come up and more than hold their own. Look at Bristol Rovers and Oxford who came up with us for example.

Good debate though. Out of interest, those positions you mentioned earlier that you think we need additions for, who would you like to see us sign?



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 20, 2018, 03:22:00 am

So you donít believe any of Facey, Taylor, Pierre, McWilliams, Crooks, Foley, Hoskins, Powell for example are good enough for league2? You said weíd struggle, by which I assume you meant bottom 5 or 6?

Based on facts (this seasons results but more importantly performances) yes. As others have said tge gulf in ability was there to see mot weeks. Ontop of that you could gave tge best coach in tge world in charge but if tge players are not good enough then they are not good enough


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 20, 2018, 07:57:38 am
I honestly hope you're right about the likes of Powell, Hoskins and Crooks but I just think there are too many overrated players in this squad. Many of which haven't shown me much to suggest that they'll be that effective next year. I hope I'm wrong. Whilst I appreciate the drop in division I'm also not convinced there's a massive difference in quality between the lower end of league one and the top half of league two. You see so many sides come up and more than hold their own. Look at Bristol Rovers and Oxford who came up with us for example.

Good debate though. Out of interest, those positions you mentioned earlier that you think we need additions for, who would you like to see us sign?

Time will tell and as I said I think there will probably be a decent number in and out if the rumours / ITK info on here are true.

For your last question, couple of the names mentioned in this thread so far such as Wes Thomas, Nicky Law & Kal Naismith were good shouts if we can get them. I wouldnít be adverse to Ariyibi coming back in loan but I donít think there is any chance of that happening and appreciate itís just another face from last season. I also think it is worth sounding out Luton to see if they intend to upgrade on Hylton or Collins, although I suspect they are out of our price range.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 20, 2018, 08:06:20 am
Based on facts (this seasons results but more importantly performances) yes. As others have said tge gulf in ability was there to see mot weeks. Ontop of that you could gave tge best coach in tge world in charge but if tge players are not good enough then they are not good enough

Based on facts like Crooks and Pierre previously having been in the League 2 team of the year? Itís a pretty bold shout that Taylor, Facey and McWilliams will struggle in League 2 based on their performances for us to date.

A good coach should find a way to set those players out in a way that at least negates some of their weaknesses, itís not like we tried to play in Lg1 with Conference players. The reverse of what you say is also true, put a bad coach (or man manager, or motivator) in charge of a competent group and they will struggle. The managers role is underplayed imo. ďWhy didnít the players try harder/take it upon themselves to sort the problemĒ is often said but what do you think happens to a player that doesnít follow managers orders. Maybe there is a reason we didnít see McWilliams much under JFH for example. Maybe the youthful exuberance was too much, maybe he felt he was leaving his position by closing down the opposition, we just donít know.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 20, 2018, 09:04:46 am
Based on facts like Crooks and Pierre previously having been in the League 2 team of the year? Itís a pretty bold shout that Taylor, Facey and McWilliams will struggle in League 2 based on their performances for us to date.

A good coach should find a way to set those players out in a way that at least negates some of their weaknesses, itís not like we tried to play in Lg1 with Conference players. The reverse of what you say is also true, put a bad coach (or man manager, or motivator) in charge of a competent group and they will struggle. The managers role is underplayed imo. ďWhy didnít the players try harder/take it upon themselves to sort the problemĒ is often said but what do you think happens to a player that doesnít follow managers orders. Maybe there is a reason we didnít see McWilliams much under JFH for example. Maybe the youthful exuberance was too much, maybe he felt he was leaving his position by closing down the opposition, we just donít know.

I haven't an issue at all with Taylor,  facey ir Mcwilliams they are all more than good enough for lg2 (assuming they will all still be here). We have 7-8 that are good enough to mount a challenge. As I've said all along tho assuming those 7-8 stay we still need to sign 5-6 decent players to be competing at the top end. I also haven't got a problem with someone hoskins being a squad player, but if he is starting week in week out we will finish closer to tge bottom than the top.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on May 20, 2018, 11:10:02 am
I haven't an issue at all with Taylor,  facey ir Mcwilliams they are all more than good enough for lg2 (assuming they will all still be here). We have 7-8 that are good enough to mount a challenge. As I've said all along tho assuming those 7-8 stay we still need to sign 5-6 decent players to be competing at the top end. I also haven't got a problem with someone hoskins being a squad player, but if he is starting week in week out we will finish closer to tge bottom than the top.

A fair assessment all round I think. Letís hope Deano brings in those needed and replaces any key players that go effectively.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 20, 2018, 12:11:33 pm
I would be shocked if we didn't bring in a minimum of 6 new first team players. I trust DA to know exactly what is needed to improve the side having worked with the squad all season.

Glastonbury's and Crazycobbler's concerns are understandable but I agree with other posters that our squad possesses more quality than Chesterfield did coming into last season. They've played Jak McCourt (the poor souls) all season, whereas we (hopefully) will be able to call upon Crooks, O'Toole and McWilliams. Furthermore, players like Richards, Revell and Taylor were struggling at league one level and did not merit a place in our squad, now find themselves thriving towards the upper end of league two. I, for one, am confident in DA's ability to assess what are the missing links in our squad and find those players on the market. With some good additions I think we will be challenging for top 3 for sure next season.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on May 20, 2018, 17:03:44 pm
Just watching Brackley at Wembley, that James Armson is a class midfielder. I think he has a very good job outside football but you would think you should be able to sort out some sort of deal.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 20, 2018, 17:13:21 pm
We should get in touch with John Marquis and explain it was all a bit of a misunderstanding and we would like him to be our striker after all. I'm sure he will be fine with that.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 20, 2018, 20:33:31 pm
Just watching Brackley at Wembley, that James Armson is a class midfielder. I think he has a very good job outside football but you would think you should be able to sort out some sort of deal.

His been discussed lots in tge past and his regular job (nor sure what it is possibly lawyer?) Pays far more than we would be able to afford, so unless he is happy to take a significant wage drop to become a pro footballer ir isn't gonna happen!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: bungle on May 20, 2018, 21:58:29 pm
His been discussed lots in tge past and his regular job (nor sure what it is possibly lawyer?) Pays far more than we would be able to afford, so unless he is happy to take a significant wage drop to become a pro footballer ir isn't gonna happen!

He is a 'college education examiner' according to the BBC. Would he really not be tempted by an offer to turn pro?

The wider issue here, of course, is that we haven't made a successful non-league signing for absolutely donkey's years. Meanwhile Pish have continued to make decent money from speculating and accumulating on non-league talent.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 20, 2018, 22:16:24 pm
Based on facts (this seasons results but more importantly performances) yes. As others have said tge gulf in ability was there to see mot weeks. Ontop of that you could gave tge best coach in tge world in charge but if tge players are not good enough then they are not good enough

Why donít you enlist the help of spell check?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 20, 2018, 23:45:33 pm
He is a 'college education examiner' according to the BBC. Would he really not be tempted by an offer to turn pro?

The wider issue here, of course, is that we haven't made a successful non-league signing for absolutely donkey's years. Meanwhile Pish have continued to make decent money from speculating and accumulating on non-league talent.


Who was their last success?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 21, 2018, 09:51:44 am
Who was their last success?

They havenít made money on them yet but Junior Morais and Danny Lloyd have both turned out to be pretty decent at League One level which is quite impressive, particularly in the case of Morais who they signed from St Albans a couple years ago. Thought he looked very good against us at Sixfields last August.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 21, 2018, 10:26:59 am
I would be shocked if we didn't bring in a minimum of 6 new first team players. .....

Be prepared to be shocked as I find it unlikely we will sign  6 new players - even if 6 or more leave!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 21, 2018, 12:25:48 pm
Be prepared to be shocked as I find it unlikely we will sign  6 new players - even if 6 or more leave!



Well I for one am pretty pleased with your assessment Nevers, because usually what you say/think is going to happen is quite the opposite from reality.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Travelaway on May 21, 2018, 12:34:37 pm
Why donít you enlist the help of spell check?


Who does Spell Check play for?

Can he help us as you suggest..


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on May 21, 2018, 12:36:32 pm
We should get in touch with John Marquis and explain it was all a bit of a misunderstanding and we would like him to be our striker after all. I'm sure he will be fine with that.

       HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN RELEASED. ABSOLUTE MADNESS!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: clarkeysntfc on May 21, 2018, 12:53:47 pm

       HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN RELEASED. ABSOLUTE MADNESS!

He wasn't ours to release. He was on loan from Millwall.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 21, 2018, 13:24:42 pm
He wasn't ours to release. He was on loan from Millwall.

He was released by Millwall at the end of the season and made it clear he wanted to continue playing at The Cobblers. Doncaster snapped him up when we turned him down.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 21, 2018, 14:27:56 pm

Well I for one am pretty pleased with your assessment Nevers, because usually what you say/think is going to happen is quite the opposite from reality.

I try to avoid presentation of facts as you do. Not quite sure what your point is other than reality is sometimes lost on perhaps most of us who are Cobblers supporters.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Alfred on May 21, 2018, 19:33:15 pm
Paul Robinson,  ex AFC Wimbledon is a name that has been mentioned to me as a possible recruit.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 21, 2018, 20:20:49 pm
Paul Robinson,  ex AFC Wimbledon is a name that has been mentioned to me as a possible recruit.

He would be another experienced player - 36 years old  :o


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Spinney cobbler on May 21, 2018, 21:03:44 pm
Paul Robinson,  ex AFC Wimbledon is a name that has been mentioned to me as a possible recruit.
Maybe Dean Austin assistant ???


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on May 21, 2018, 21:27:14 pm
Maybe Dean Austin assistant ???

Letís hope itís something like that - if we sign him as a player itís not looking very promising for next season if heís a replacement for Taylor for example.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Oversees on May 23, 2018, 01:07:47 am
Lee Martin, anyone?  (Or, has his name already come up?)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on May 24, 2018, 19:34:25 pm
He wasn't ours to release. He was on loan from Millwall.

              THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION. SENIOR MOMENT. I FORGOT HE WAS ON LOAN.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 24, 2018, 19:40:48 pm
Lee Martin, anyone?  (Or, has his name already come up?)

No, not good enougj


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 24, 2018, 21:07:29 pm
No, not good enougj

Why not?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Teachers Pet on May 25, 2018, 15:54:53 pm
Port Vale apparently interested in signing Billy Waters.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Shadowstorm on May 25, 2018, 16:08:32 pm
Nothing concrete regarding bids...

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-says-there-has-not-yet-been-any-detailed-interest-in-cobblers-players-1-8511247


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Spinney cobbler on May 25, 2018, 16:10:49 pm
Port Vale apparently interested in signing Billy Waters.
Had a great season with Cheltenham joined Northampton and got forgotten.He didn't do that great on loan at Cambridge probably join Port vale and score for fun.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on May 25, 2018, 17:05:37 pm
I hope we keep hold of Billy Waters as I think he could be a useful player at this level.

In other news, Michael Timlin has left Southend. He would be a good midfielder in this division, a real battler.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on May 25, 2018, 19:00:08 pm
Waters didn't set the world on fire at Cambridge, so if we can get back our transfer fee I wouldn't be too disheartened and Timlin is too old.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Shadowstorm on May 25, 2018, 20:03:14 pm
I'd like to keep Waters as I also believe he'd could do a job ay tjis level. However should we decide to cash in then a return foe our fee would be nice with a few add ons


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 25, 2018, 20:36:38 pm
Why not?

Because he is not good enough imo


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 25, 2018, 21:04:55 pm
Because he is not good enough imo

I don't know him, don't recall seeing him play, what aspects of his game are not good enough?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 25, 2018, 22:18:06 pm
I don't know him, don't recall seeing him play, what aspects of his game are not good enough?

We had him on loan for a fair while (10 games or so), from what ive seen ability wise he is on a par with Daniel Powell and I would be looking for better, not bad goingf forward but not great at tracking back from what I remember. At 31 I'd be looking to bring in a younger winger option too. I lived in Kent for a few years and have some good friends who are Gills fans, thgey have also questioned his attitude (he was their skipper at times), although he did have a bad injury not long after signing for them.

not for me - there is better out there IMO


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: towcestercobbler on May 26, 2018, 00:54:12 am
I reckon Waters will come good. He tore up in pre season last year, just wasn't given a chance for whatever reason


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 26, 2018, 05:13:23 am
He did not for us, he did not for Cambridge, so why in the future?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 26, 2018, 07:46:20 am
I reckon Waters will come good. He tore up in pre season last year, just wasn't given a chance for whatever reason

He looks a carbon copy of hoskins to me from what little I've seen of him.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on May 26, 2018, 08:03:11 am
Totally agree. Both do not score or create enough goals we require even in League 2!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Manwork04 on May 26, 2018, 09:52:55 am
Totally agree. Both do not score or create enough goals we require even in League 2!
Neither of them are going to set L2 alight, Hoskins being the better of the 2.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: meccanostand on May 26, 2018, 11:34:37 am
Players that will keep us in League 2 and don't mind being at the club. Form an orderly queue.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on May 27, 2018, 06:54:33 am


 We should have a word with him upstairs and see if e can have cliff Holton back.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 30, 2018, 12:03:55 pm
I wonder if we will sign anyone soon?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 30, 2018, 12:18:16 pm
I wonder if we will sign anyone soon?

Presume we will need a few to move on before we do, although we did pick up Williams quickly and without movement but the loan deals had ended so would have freed up some wage space maybe?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: lordjord on May 30, 2018, 12:36:18 pm
Neither of them are going to set L2 alight, Hoskins being the better of the 2.

Whilst I agree that neither are going to set the league alight it could be argued Waters is the more proven of the two at L2 level. He got double digit goals for a team fighting against the drop. Hoskins was a bit part player for us when we went up and has never shown an ability to score any significant number of goals despite his pace.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 30, 2018, 13:30:07 pm
Whilst I agree that neither are going to set the league alight it could be argued Waters is the more proven of the two at L2 level. He got double digit goals for a team fighting against the drop. Hoskins was a bit part player for us when we went up and has never shown an ability to score any significant number of goals despite his pace.

Waters the more proven and also has age on his side. Hoskins looks like a bottom half league 2 winger, or an impact striker for the last 30 minutes.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 30, 2018, 13:50:22 pm
Honestly think Waters will thrive under DA...he's already proved it at L2 level with Cheltenham (did good things at Cambridge too, bar the lack of goals)

I think DA could turn him into a Paul Dickov type of player....never gives up and an absolute cnut to play against.

Rather have him than Hoskins tbh


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BedsCobb on May 30, 2018, 14:57:49 pm
Strikers being released at championship level that have proved they can score at that level may want to finish careers on a high at the easier league 2 level..

Contracts terminate, june 1st (?)  so those not offered anything will be getting desperate to tie up any old 3 year contract.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 30, 2018, 15:39:35 pm
Strikers being released at championship level that have proved they can score at that level may want to finish careers on a high at the easier league 2 level..
Contracts terminate, june 1st (?)  so those not offered anything will be getting desperate to tie up any old 3 year contract.

Any good examples you think would drop two levels?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 30, 2018, 18:42:36 pm
Strikers being released at championship level that have proved they can score at that level may want to finish careers on a high at the easier league 2 level..

Contracts terminate, june 1st (?)  so those not offered anything will be getting desperate to tie up any old 3 year contract.


But how often are they actually interested in finishing on a high though? They're often a lot more interested in finishing their career with a healthy salary as opposed to giving their all in a dogfight which is exactly what League Two is. Although, there is the odd exception now and then I guess.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 30, 2018, 19:21:27 pm
But how often are they actually interested in finishing on a high though? They're often a lot more interested in finishing their career with a healthy salary as opposed to giving their all in a dogfight which is exactly what League Two is. Although, there is the odd exception now and then I guess.

To be fair, strikers the wrong age of thirty are generally keen to extend their careers as long as they possible can. After all they've got 40+ years of uncertainty ahead of them.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 30, 2018, 20:42:54 pm
Marc NcNulty  - 25 goals, 25 years old. Previous 2 seasons = 11 in 42 (lower leagues)
Billy Kee - 25 goals, 27 years old. Always been prolific.
Mohamed Eisa - 23 goals, 23 years old. Signed fro, Greenwich, very low level where he was prolific.
Danny Hylton - 21 goals, 29 years old. Been prolific since he's was 24, prior to that hit and miss.
Christian Doidge - 20 goals, 25 years old. First season in the league, did 'alright' at non league prior to that.
Jayden Stockley - 20 goals, 24 years old. 37 goals in total before last season at various levels.

These are the coveted '20 goal a season' players from last season.

The point Im making is that it is total luck if you get one at the right time or not. From these, Id argue that only 2 of the 6 would have been 'bankers', so in other words the 4 other ones were total flukes. James Collins (19) and Bayo (17) both just miss out on that list, and I remember most of our fans believing that Collins wasn't up to it for league 1 (which I actually believe is true) and that Bayo was a bad influence, 'MOVE ON' blah blah. Well he's helped get two teams up from league2 to league1 in the last 3 years!

Its as likely that Sam Hoskins or Waters will score a shed load next season than any striker we'd likely to be able to afford whose recent form is good.

Both of the above, and dare I say it even the lazy one that divides opinions (!), are all more than capable of having a good season. If I was in charge of the budget and had 100grand to chuck at anyone, it would be on Bayo. Guaranteed to score a load and set up a load. Or as close to guaranteeing as you can get in league2. It aint gonna happen but it still annoys me that so many of our fans thought he wasn't worth it, didn't want him back etc last time. Best striker we've had in the last 15 years, easily.



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 30, 2018, 21:37:10 pm

Its as likely that Sam Hoskins or Waters will score a shed load next season than any striker we'd likely to be able to afford whose recent form is good.


It'd be a huge shock if Hoskins was the 20 goal striker every club craves. Soccerbase says Hoskins has only scored 15 league goals ever (140 appearances).


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 30, 2018, 22:08:10 pm
Hoskins has not got a 20 goal season in him. His finishing isn't good enough.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: crazycobbler on May 30, 2018, 22:48:47 pm

Its as likely that Sam Hoskins or Waters will score a shed load next season than any striker we'd likely to be able to afford whose recent form is good.



You make a fair point which I'd go along with but only for Waters. I simply don't believe Hoskins has 20 in him at League Two level. He doesn't offer much of an attacking threat most of the time and as others have mentioned his finishing is poor.  However, in his defence, he hasn't really had a huge amount of game time as an out and out striker. He's largely been used as part of a three behind the striker or as a winger. I don't think he would be that prolific even if he was given a full season as a striker but it wouldn't be fair to completely ignore the fact that he hasn't played many games leading the line. 


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on May 30, 2018, 22:58:48 pm
Hoskins has not got a 20 goal season in him. His finishing isn't good enough.

You just know that if we let him go he'll do a Henderson


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on May 30, 2018, 23:14:33 pm
I reckon Waters will come good. He tore up in pre season last year, just wasn't given a chance for whatever reason

Hardly set the world alight preseason but agree he might have been given more opportunity prior to his loan. Can see him working well with vV.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on May 31, 2018, 07:52:23 am
You just know that if we let him go he'll do a Henderson

I'd be amazed if Hoskins scores 5 goals in a season - People who think he may ever score 20 are dreaming!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 31, 2018, 08:16:52 am
Donít think heíll score a lot, but his pace still has a use at this level imo.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on May 31, 2018, 08:55:07 am
Hardly set the world alight preseason but agree he might have been given more opportunity prior to his loan. Can see him working well with vV.

You mean, doing all the work for VV!  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on May 31, 2018, 09:54:09 am
I'd be amazed if Hoskins scores 5 goals in a season - People who think he may ever score 20 are dreaming!

20 goal season would be just over 130% of his entire goals ever. It'd be one hell of a turnaround!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: guest2487 on May 31, 2018, 11:22:09 am
You just know that if we let him go he'll do a Henderson

Obviously that would happen, it almost always does!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BedsCobb on May 31, 2018, 11:56:05 am
I'd be amazed if Hoskins scores 5 goals in a season - People who think he may ever score 20 are dreaming!
The amount of chances he latches on to is impressive and thats the hardest thing imo... its just the  finishing that lets him down.
That'll  be rectified at some other club no doubt😉


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on June 02, 2018, 13:21:51 pm
Donít think heíll score a lot, but his pace still has a use at this level imo.
                AGREED, He is a' fox in the box tye of player', defences don't like playing against him.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 02, 2018, 13:59:27 pm
                AGREED, He is a' fox in the box tye of player', defences don't like playing against him.


I am certain you have no idea what a 'fox in the box' type player is  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: meccanostand on June 02, 2018, 20:35:59 pm
Someone like Chris Freestone who was fast, liked scoring goals and didn't think that playing for the Cobblers was beneath him.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on June 03, 2018, 07:19:16 am
I am certain you have no idea what a 'fox in the box' type player is  ;D
                We are all entitled to our opinion, including you and I.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 03, 2018, 22:13:16 pm
                We are all entitled to our opinion, including you and I.

"Fox in the Box

A deadly striker, a player who scores most goals in the box, not particularly skillful but scores a lot of goals."

Ahh yes. Classic Hoskins.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on June 03, 2018, 23:26:03 pm
Hope Waters doesn't go to Port Vale...

Really think he'll thrive if played in his favoured striker position under DA in L2

Would rather offload Hoskins and keep Waters...



Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on June 04, 2018, 07:50:42 am
                AGREED, He is a' fox in the box tye of player', defences don't like playing against him.


hoskins is almost 100% the opposite of a fox in the box player


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Bugbrooke Boy on June 04, 2018, 19:35:34 pm
Ryan Hardie at Rangers nay be available - just the sort of striker to compliment Williams - young, hungry, mobile and knows where the net is. Maybe Mr Crooks could persuade him to come here?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Lukey on June 04, 2018, 22:33:08 pm
I think the Luton and Coventry may be releasing a few now they are promoted, what better than a couple of players who gained promotion just recently from the same league, i can think of 5 players from those 2 clubs who are brilliant at League 2 level but just not quite League 1 players.

But that's my opinion, if their respective managers keep them... who knows they may be good at league 1 level.

On the other hand i'd rather a young hungry team playing decent football and watching them grow together than an experienced team who must deliver promotion. I just think that at the current moment in time League 1 or League 2 isn't really a big deal until the off field issues are out of the way.

Take care,
Luke.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Carlo Corazzins Corduroy on June 05, 2018, 20:47:17 pm
Ryan Hardie at Rangers nay be available - just the sort of striker to compliment Williams - young, hungry, mobile and knows where the net is. Maybe Mr Crooks could persuade him to come here?

Anecdotally he always does well for me on Football Manager. Never cut it in the Championship for us mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're waiting to offload a few players before signing anyone else. Still stupidly overloaded with players that can play centrally. And 4 keepers??


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on June 08, 2018, 14:48:30 pm
Very quiet isn't it!

I at least expected a couple to have left by now. 1 signing by 8th June, that has to be the least by that date for a good number of years.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 08, 2018, 14:54:13 pm
Whether itís the time of year or just a reflection of the off the field situation there seems to be a real inertia around the club at the moment.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: EssTeeFree on June 08, 2018, 15:08:07 pm
I suspect it is connected to the off-field stuff, we've usually signed a fair few by now.

I guess the lack of signings is also connected to the squad being high in number but as I said I would have thought a couple might have left by now.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: pattcobb on June 08, 2018, 15:15:10 pm
I know we have the World Cup to break up the summer. But seriously I don't think I can stand a summer without the transfer rumours thread. Who doesn't enjoy all the speculation/half truths/total bollocks of it all?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 08, 2018, 15:22:52 pm
Going by the first signing of the summer we might need to restrict our searches/speculation to players over 30, out of contract with a recent history of injury.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: ntfc01 on June 08, 2018, 21:00:49 pm
Going by the first signing of the summer we might need to restrict our searches/speculation to players over 30, out of contract with a recent history of injury.

Well paying money for players in January didn't exactly work did it.. Personally speaking I think the first signing of the summer is pretty decent one


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 08, 2018, 21:31:46 pm
Well paying money for players in January didn't exactly work did it.. Personally speaking I think the first signing of the summer is pretty decent one

True.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on June 09, 2018, 10:47:56 am
I get the feeling it's a case of shipping players out first before we see anyone coming in. Quite nice that there's no massive clear out and hopefully it means Dean keeps together a group that trusts and respects him. Nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Saint Cobbler on June 09, 2018, 11:50:18 am
I get the feeling it's a case of shipping players out first before we see anyone coming in. Quite nice that there's no massive clear out and hopefully it means Dean keeps together a group that trusts and respects him. Nothing wrong with that.
My thoughts exactly. One or two changes to try and strengthen in key areas is all we need.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 09, 2018, 12:50:42 pm
I got the impression from Ashton Taylor that him and the squad were of the same mindset, we went down together and we'll put it right to get back up again together.
Obviously any additional players to improve the squad would also be of benefit.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: meccanostand on June 09, 2018, 12:51:43 pm
Got to be strong fancies for Auto promotion if we can keep the squad together. Big if however.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Snow Dive Larry on June 09, 2018, 17:53:07 pm
I got the impression from Ashton Taylor that him and the squad were of the same mindset, we went down together and we'll put it right to get back up again together.
Obviously any additional players to improve the squad would also be of benefit.

That's a good attitude to start with and Taylor himself saying that is a real positive.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Grove on June 10, 2018, 10:08:32 am
Now it appears that KT has got what he wanted he may be able to spend some council of his money on better quality


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Teachers Pet on June 10, 2018, 12:28:20 pm
Now it appears that KT has got what he wanted he may be able to spend some council of his money on better quality

 ::) ::)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: cobblerwatch on June 10, 2018, 13:40:17 pm
That's a good attitude to start with and Taylor himself saying that is a real positive.

Iíve always maintained adequate players and excellent team spirit get you promoted at this level - manager and player speak so far makes me cautiously optimistic.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2018, 22:56:34 pm
Iíve always maintained adequate players and excellent team spirit get you promoted at this level - manager and player speak so far make me cautiously optimistic.

Not sure if that equates to the Championship winning side; let alone the then incumbent Manager/Assistant Manager.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: claretparrot on June 11, 2018, 14:34:27 pm
Not sure if that equates to the Championship winning side; let alone the then incumbent Manager/Assistant Manager.

Aside from CW/AK and Holmes, I can't think of many who were much better than 'adequate' in terms of individual skill. A quick look at where they are now doesn't suggest so, anyway.

There must have been at least 4 or 5 players in that team who showed the form of their lives for that one season, which could easily be down to the excellent team spirit.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: towcestercobbler on June 11, 2018, 16:06:03 pm
Aside from CW/AK and Holmes, I can't think of many who were much better than 'adequate' in terms of individual skill. A quick look at where they are now doesn't suggest so, anyway.

There must have been at least 4 or 5 players in that team who showed the form of their lives for that one season, which could easily be down to the excellent team spirit.

Bang on, Wilder had the likes of Byrom and McDonald really well and they weren't really world beaters


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2018, 16:08:29 pm
Aside from CW/AK and Holmes, I can't think of many who were much better than 'adequate' in terms of individual skill. A quick look at where they are now doesn't suggest so, anyway.

There must have been at least 4 or 5 players in that team who showed the form of their lives for that one season, which could easily be down to the excellent team spirit.

Adams, Díath, Smith, both full backs and the player who went to Pompey looked above Div 2 standard. Of course you have forgotten JJOT!




Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: claretparrot on June 11, 2018, 16:24:35 pm
Adams, Díath, Smith, both full backs and the player who went to Pompey looked above Div 2 standard. Of course you have forgotten JJOT!




You don't realise it, but you're supporting cobblerwatch's / my argument...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2018, 16:31:40 pm
You don't realise it, but you're supporting cobblerwatch's / my argument...

Please clarify. I can never bring myself to agree with any of CW Ďarguments Ď. Unless of course you and CW r joined at the hip.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: claretparrot on June 11, 2018, 16:54:36 pm
They looked above Div 2 standard, but it's tough to argue that any of the players you list have proven that to be the case since. A borderline case in JJOT maybe.

The point being that they performed to the absolute best of their abilities as individuals (for a short portion of their careers) and the team was better than the sum of its parts. This could have been at least partly down to a strong team spirit.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Coolcat on June 11, 2018, 16:57:57 pm
Please clarify. I can never bring myself to agree with any of CW Ďarguments Ď. Unless of course you and CW r joined at the hip.
Please edit with: Please clarify Claret Parrot...it will just roll off the tongue!  ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2018, 17:00:20 pm
Please edit with: Please clarify Claret Parrot...it will just roll off the tongue!  ;D

 ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 12, 2018, 11:05:35 am
Some Twitter noise linking us and some other clubs with Junior Morais.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 12, 2018, 11:20:06 am
Some Twitter noise linking us and some other clubs with Junior Morais.

Itís more than just Twitter noise - the foghorn that is Barry fry has provided updates on all the p@@h players that are on their transfer list and we are one of the teams supposedly after morais. I wouldnít be adverse to this - he looked decent against us last season, a small and nippy wide forward.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 12, 2018, 11:23:17 am
"Fry also told the Peterborough Telegraph his club has had interest in Morais from Crawley, Northampton, Stevenage and Ebbsfleet but no acceptable bids have been received yet."


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 12, 2018, 12:02:45 pm
Itís more than just Twitter noise - the foghorn that is Barry fry has provided updates on all the p@@h players that are on their transfer list and we are one of the teams supposedly after morais. I wouldnít be adverse to this - he looked decent against us last season, a small and nippy wide forward.

Cheers, been away at Download Festival since Wednesday and it was one of things I noticed this morning through my two day hangover.  ;D

I also thought he looked decent, not sure where he fits in with what we have or the formation though.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 12, 2018, 12:03:44 pm
"Fry also told the Peterborough Telegraph his club has had interest in Morais from Crawley, Northampton, Stevenage and Ebbsfleet but no acceptable bids have been received yet."

Will check out the article now, note "no acceptable bids" seems to indicate that people have made offers already?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: threeinabed on June 12, 2018, 12:05:53 pm
Cheers, been away at Download Festival since Wednesday and it was one of things I noticed this morning through my two day hangover.  ;D

I also thought he looked decent, not sure where he fits in with what we have or the formation though.

up front with the other new bloke?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 12, 2018, 12:29:47 pm
up front with the other new bloke?

He normally plays as a wide forward I thought (could be wrong) so not sure that really fits with 4-4-2, hence the question.

Maybe not quite as wide in a 4-4-1-1.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 12, 2018, 12:30:06 pm
Could also double up as the fabled winger/wide forward we lacked last season.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 12, 2018, 13:33:00 pm
If we get cash for Waters moving to Port Vale... I can see Morais being an improvement in that area.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: OCoole on June 12, 2018, 15:47:44 pm
Morais played up front next to Marriott for Posh in that horrible 4-1 loss at home last season and looked very dangerous. I think he would be a good signing for league 2. Could form a nice big man / little man combo with Andy Williams?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 13, 2018, 23:52:34 pm
Morais played up front next to Marriott for Posh in that horrible 4-1 loss at home last season and looked very dangerous. I think he would be a good signing for league 2. Could form a nice big man / little man combo with Andy Williams?

Even better with the accomplished vV


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 14, 2018, 00:27:26 am
I'm just throwing this out here, so don't shoot the messenger: Uche Ikpeazu was in Northampton on Wednesday afternoon. I know he signed a pre-contract agreement with Hearts, but perhaps it was the claret shirt which attracted him! ;)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on June 14, 2018, 09:07:49 am
I'm just throwing this out here, so don't shoot the messenger: Uche Ikpeazu was in Northampton on Wednesday afternoon. I know he signed a pre-contract agreement with Hearts, but perhaps it was the claret shirt which attracted him! ;)
He had, obviously, come to do a bit of shopping in the town, people travel for miles for a good shopping centre  :)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 14, 2018, 18:35:59 pm
He had, obviously, come to do a bit of shopping in the town, people travel for miles for a good shopping centre  :)

That'd be it. :o ;D


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 15, 2018, 09:57:25 am
News at 10am says Mr Casey:

https://twitter.com/TheRealCase/status/1007542704795013120 (https://twitter.com/TheRealCase/status/1007542704795013120)

Not sure if an in/out or news on the development saga.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 15, 2018, 10:03:29 am
Barnett signs his contract offer.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 15, 2018, 10:26:08 am
Doesnít sound like thereís going to be many, if any, signings this year.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on June 15, 2018, 10:44:54 am
We don't need wholesale changes...

But there will be players going out and coming in...it's just a quiet period at the moment...

Next week/last week of June things will hot up...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 15, 2018, 10:45:57 am
Doesnít sound like thereís going to be many, if any, signings this year.

We definitely need another right back to cover Facey (who's great but seems a bit injury prone) and, unless Roberts and Whaler are going to be more involved than I'd expect, at least one or two new wide players.

If we could get those in (and bin Kasim and Bowditch) then I'd be happy with our squad.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Village Idiot on June 15, 2018, 10:46:38 am
Leon fits into the squad well, so good news.

Now two new pacey strikers and six 'squad' players leaving please!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on June 15, 2018, 10:51:46 am
We don't need wholesale changes...



Disagree - I think we do, If we want compete near the top


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 15, 2018, 10:58:53 am
Disagree - I think we do, If we want compete near the top

I disagree in turn!  ;D I think we have a broadly decent side in terms of personel and did last year too. The problem we had last season was a pair of nitwit managers who insisted on playing people in the wrong positions and in doing so completely shot the confidence of all of them.

Austin showed what they were capable of in the last few games, so if we can plug a handful of gaps I think we'll be ok.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on June 15, 2018, 11:31:14 am
I disagree in turn!  ;D I think we have a broadly decent side in terms of personel and did last year too. The problem we had last season was a pair of nitwit managers who insisted on playing people in the wrong positions and in doing so completely shot the confidence of all of them.

Austin showed what they were capable of in the last few games, so if we can plug a handful of gaps I think we'll be ok.

Agree to some extent with your managers comment - but the players take a fair proportion of  the responsibility - Too many of them were/are simply not good enough and the weaknesses the were exposed time and time again last year (which although attitude clearly changed the last 5 or 6 games - issues were clearly still there) will not just go away this time around with the same main body of players. IMO of our monumentally large squad only 6 or 7 are actually anywhere near good enough.

I still expect a decent turnover of players

As mentioned before


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: clarkeysntfc on June 15, 2018, 13:24:17 pm
We need to ship out at least 5-6.

Kasim, Bowditch, Turnbull, KVV, Coddington all need to be moved on IMO.

Squad is still woefully short of real width and attacking inspiration, so these areas plus a tough tackling midfielder should be big priorities.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2018, 13:43:02 pm
We need to ship out at least 5-6.

Kasim, Bowditch, Turnbull, KVV, Coddington all need to be moved on IMO.

Squad is still woefully short of real width and attacking inspiration, so these areas plus a tough tackling midfielder should be big priorities.
Why Bowditch and vV? vV hardly played, injured and cost money! Bowditch is an established lower league player. I have seen Turnbull put in some decent performances!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2018, 13:56:16 pm
Why Bowditch and vV? vV hardly played, injured and cost money! Bowditch is an established lower league player. I have seen Turnbull put in some decent performances!

I agree with this list. With the exception of Turnbull. We need 4 centre backsÖand the 4 we've got offer a good mix in my opinion for league2.

If we are to bring in the 2 or 3 quality players we need in specific positions (1 or 2 wingers and another forward) then we need to bring the numbers down. VV wage will be astronomical for league2Öwhether you think he's good or not is irrelevant, if we are to address the squads short falls then savings need to be made first. Him and Bowditch will be both on good money and are the obvious ones to try and ship out.

We've currently got around 27 players under contract. Assuming we are going to run with 22-24, then which 5 would you look to try and move on?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 15, 2018, 13:57:58 pm
The fact that when Austin took over Turnbull and bunney were frozen out speaks volumes to me - to a slightly lesser extent the same was true with van veen.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2018, 14:07:42 pm
The fact that when Austin took over Turnbull and bunney were frozen out speaks volumes to me - to a slightly lesser extent the same was true with van veen.

Im happy to wipe the slate clean with Bunney, the kid was hung out to dry last season at left back. That said, I question his whether he would 'run through a wall for us'. But I actually found myself feeling sorry for him, a rarity when it comes to professional footballers!  ;D

VV 'can do one' though. I 100% hope he's not with us come the seasons start. We'd have been better off playing with 10 players in the games he started for us and was a prime reason why we got relegated.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on June 15, 2018, 14:10:01 pm
I agree with this list. With the exception of Turnbull. We need 4 centre backsÖand the 4 we've got offer a good mix in my opinion for league2.

If we are to bring in the 2 or 3 quality players we need in specific positions (1 or 2 wingers and another forward) then we need to bring the numbers down. VV wage will be astronomical for league2Öwhether you think he's good or not is irrelevant, if we are to address the squads short falls then savings need to be made first. Him and Bowditch will be both on good money and are the obvious ones to try and ship out.

We've currently got around 27 players under contract. Assuming we are going to run with 22-24, then which 5 would you look to try and move on?

Coddington
Kasim
Bowditch
KVV
Turnbull or Bunney

Would have said Buchs if we'd stayed up, but he'll do for L2 for another season

Hopefully, if JFH gets the Donny job (lol!) he might take KVV with him as he's no L2 player doncha know...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2018, 15:01:14 pm
Agree to some extent with your managers comment - but the players take a fair proportion of  the blame

Agree with this particular comment on player responsibility.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Shadowstorm on June 15, 2018, 15:09:14 pm
While I agree that KvV didn't play well since his arrival and did aost nothing, its harsh to say he was a main reason for our relegation. That fact is non of them played to there potential and collectively the group was poor. As for KvV he might kust surprise us this season. It will come down to attitude. We do need width and a right back. 3-5 to leave Kasim,Bowditch and Foley (they need more games).


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: pattcobb on June 15, 2018, 15:21:52 pm
Barnett signs his contract offer.

Well that's good bad news


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: just.reading on June 15, 2018, 15:23:36 pm
While I agree that KvV didn't play well since his arrival and did aost nothing, its harsh to say he was a main reason for our relegation. That fact is non of them played to there potential and collectively the group was poor. As for KvV he might kust surprise us this season. It will come down to attitude. We do need width and a right back. 3-5 to leave Kasim,Bowditch and Foley (they need more games).

Don't agree with Foley leaving at all.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2018, 15:24:28 pm
While I agree that KvV didn't play well since his arrival and did aost nothing, its harsh to say he was a main reason for our relegation. That fact is non of them played to there potential and collectively the group was poor. As for KvV he might kust surprise us this season. It will come down to attitude. We do need width and a right back. 3-5 to leave Kasim,Bowditch and Foley (they need more games).

I said 'a prime reason', there were a few of themÖbut he was definitely one of them! Our form post his arrival was far worse than during January itself (which was good), his inclusion in the team saw us put in some terrible performances. His position as a central main striker meant that the ball never stayed up there, he not once put it in the onion bag, and not once from memory assisted in a team mates goal. I stand to be corrected on the last point, maybe once but I can't recall it if he did!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on June 15, 2018, 15:25:03 pm
Don't agree with Foley leaving at all.

This...

Gives everything and is EXACTLY this type of player DA wants...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2018, 15:26:45 pm
Don't agree with Foley leaving at all.

Foley is the most under rated player we've got, in my opinion. As things stand, he'd definitely start the first game next season as one of the wide players. I can't see Crooks hanging around, if Im right with that one then wed have 3 decent midfield options remaining..McWilliams, JJ and Foley.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: memyhead on June 15, 2018, 15:45:45 pm
Is Crooks girlfriend from Northampton? That might go in out favour...


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on June 15, 2018, 16:02:57 pm
This...

Gives everything and is EXACTLY this type of player DA wants...

But actually has bugger all quality


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on June 15, 2018, 16:42:03 pm
Interesting to find out which players would join JFH if he gets the Doncaster job (now odds on favourite). I suspect VVW would leave to join him and possibly Turnbull and Bunney. Can't see many others wanting to play for him though.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2018, 16:49:15 pm
But actually has bugger all quality

Again agree with this :o


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 15, 2018, 17:17:20 pm
I donít think anyoneís claiming he is messi, he is a grafter and one of our many issues last season was a lack of balance between the so called flair players and the workers. Heís also nowhere near as limited as some are making out.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 15, 2018, 19:14:20 pm
I donít think anyoneís claiming he is messi, he is a grafter and one of our many issues last season was a lack of balance between the so called flair players and the workers. Heís also nowhere near as limited as some are making out.

He's like Gilligan. But without a goal in him. Much better players out there... Especially if people are suggesting sticking him out wide. Him, Powell and Hoskins would probably chip in with 5 goals if they all played behind a lone striker.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Irchy cob on June 15, 2018, 19:34:36 pm
He's like Gilligan. But without a goal in him. Much better players out there... Especially if people are suggesting sticking him out wide. Him, Powell and Hoskins would probably chip in with 5 goals if they all played behind a lone striker.

Fair enough, itís all about opinions. I just feel that prior to the injury he picked up pre season he was looking decent - I think it set him back and then JED was replaced by the tactical genius that was JFH and he didnít get much of a look in despite some players (crooks, Powell, grimes) drifting in and out of form.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 15, 2018, 22:50:42 pm
Fair enough, itís all about opinions. I just feel that prior to the injury he picked up pre season he was looking decent - I think it set him back and then JED was replaced by the tactical genius that was JFH and he didnít get much of a look in despite some players (crooks, Powell, grimes) drifting in and out of form.

Agreed. He was picking out players for fun against Sileby and The Red Lion.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: alton on June 15, 2018, 23:07:33 pm
He's like Gilligan. But without a goal in him. Much better players out there... Especially if people are suggesting sticking him out wide. Him, Powell and Hoskins would probably chip in with 5 goals if they all played behind a lone striker.

No-one is like Gilligan  ;)


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Stig on June 15, 2018, 23:26:31 pm
Kasim,Bowditch,1 goalkeeper (Coddington) out
Keep rest


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: bungle on June 16, 2018, 15:08:35 pm
Austin: 'If the first game of the season was tomorrow and I had this squad then Iíd be very happy'.

Quite a claim for a team that finished on -34 goal difference, but I take his point. On paper this is a very decent squad for this level. Our problems last season were primarily down to tactics and 'character' rather than innate ability. If Austin keeps the tactics fairly simple and on the front foot and selects the right kind of characters (e.g. McWilliams, Barnett and Foley - all three of whom were unfairly neglected by JFH) then we should have a good season.

Personally, though I still feel we need a pacey attacking midielder/playmaker type:
Morais would fit the bill.

                   ROD
       Facey  Taylor  Barnett Buchanan

               McWilliams  Crooks
                        O'Toole

         Powell               New AM
                 Williams


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: barton cobbler on June 16, 2018, 16:31:54 pm



                   ROD
       Facey  Taylor  Barnett Buchanan

               McWilliams  Crooks
                        O'Toole

         Powell               New AM
                 Williams
A reasonable team but would be a lot better with Peirre instead of Barnett


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: cobblerwatch on June 17, 2018, 19:30:52 pm
Why Bowditch and vV? vV hardly played, injured and cost money! Bowditch is an established lower league player. I have seen Turnbull put in some decent performances!

Interesting view - imo Bowditch was poor first time round and even worse this time - I want players for my team that care hence I wonít even waste text on vV


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 18, 2018, 09:53:08 am
I'd be happy if we could just get a few to go out on loan again so they don't take up a massive wage from us, or be sold/released if we have no intention of playing the,. As it stands at the minute I can see us like this (Reserves in brackets):

ROD (Cornell)

Facey (Phillips) Ash (Barnett) Pierre (Turnbull) Buchs (Bunney)

Powell (Whaler) JJ (Foley) McWilliams (Bridge) Crooks (Roberts)

Williams (Waters) Van Veen (Hoskins)

To go out on loan (or Sold): Iaciofano, Goff (Bowditch, Coddington, Kasim)

All could change if people want to leave and find a buyer, but I cannot see that happening at the minute. Still plenty of the window left though.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: Wolvo on June 18, 2018, 10:14:32 am
Interesting view - imo Bowditch was poor first time round and even worse this time - I want players for my team that care hence I wonít even waste text on vV

2 spells the club and I have no idea what his position is. Definitely top of my list to be sold - but strongly doubt we'd sell him. Any rich Conference clubs this season?


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: just.reading on June 18, 2018, 15:04:19 pm
I'd be happy if we could just get a few to go out on loan again so they don't take up a massive wage from us, or be sold/released if we have no intention of playing the,. As it stands at the minute I can see us like this (Reserves in brackets):

ROD (Cornell)

Facey (Phillips) Ash (Barnett) Pierre (Turnbull) Buchs (Bunney)

Powell (Whaler) JJ (Foley) McWilliams (Bridge) Crooks (Roberts)

Williams (Waters) Van Veen (Hoskins)

To go out on loan (or Sold): Iaciofano, Goff (Bowditch, Coddington, Kasim)

All could change if people want to leave and find a buyer, but I cannot see that happening at the minute. Still plenty of the window left though.

This just shows that wingers should be top priority. Only one first team winger in the squad (Powell). Not sure if Whaler/Roberts are getting anywhere near the first team next season and I think Crooks is wasted out wide. 2 more needed on the assumption Hoskins/Bunney can fill in there when needed.


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: defender on June 20, 2018, 11:20:00 am

 RINALDO WILL DO FOR A START!!!


Title: Re: Which players would you like to see the club try to sign?
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 20, 2018, 11:22:24 am
RINALDO WILL DO FOR A START!!!

42 year old Brazilian?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinaldo_Santana_dos_Santos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinaldo_Santana_dos_Santos)