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Title: Time to stand up
Post by: guest48 on September 15, 2018, 20:25:24 pm
I am absolutely p*ssed of with EVERYTHING about NTFC at the moment. The vast majority of the players are going through the motions and if things don't change we will go down. Kelvin needs to either get out or provide some leadership and tell the wasters to start earning their money ! Ash Taylor, your form HAS dropped so don't insult our intelligence by saying otherwise, I know it and YOU know it. But Taylor is not the only one, lots of others are not in the slightest bothered about the results, they DON'T CARE about NTFC.
    It's time we let the players know that if they are not bothered they can f*ck off, I'd rather field the U18's team than the team of weak willed posers we have at the moment. This is OUR club, we will be here long after they have found out what it's like to have to work for a living.
    I agree that DA could do better, especially with game management, but Klopp would do well to get this lot to perform. I was at Barnet after 8 players had been sacked and we played the youth team and at least they all put 100% in, I don't think that's happened at NTFC since CW left.
 TIME TO STAND UP everyone otherwise see you in Braintree  :( 


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Irchy cob on September 15, 2018, 20:30:03 pm
I am absolutely p*ssed of with EVERYTHING about NTFC at the moment. The vast majority of the players are going through the motions and if things don't change we will go down. Kelvin needs to either get out or provide some leadership and tell the wasters to start earning their money ! Ash Taylor, your form HAS dropped so don't insult our intelligence by saying otherwise, I know it and YOU know it. But Taylor is not the only one, lots of others are not in the slightest bothered about the results, they DON'T CARE about NTFC.
    It's time we let the players know that if they are not bothered they can f*ck off, I'd rather field the U18's team than the team of weak willed posers we have at the moment. This is OUR club, we will be here long after they have found out what it's like to have to work for a living.
    I agree that DA could do better, especially with game management, but Klopp would do well to get this lot to perform. I was at Barnet after 8 players had been sacked and we played the youth team and at least they all put 100% in, I don't think that's happened at NTFC since CW left.
 TIME TO STAND UP everyone otherwise see you in Braintree  :( 

I agree entirely mate - the first thing that needs to happen though is that the players, management and board has to acknowledge that we aren't too good to get sucked into a relegation fight, roll their sleeves up and fight for the badge.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Ralap on September 15, 2018, 20:44:49 pm
I prefer to ring the positives out of a bad situation . . . I’m excited about all those new grounds next season. 13 I’ve not been at all never mind with the Cobblers as it stands. Get in there.

Great work KT.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest3230 on September 15, 2018, 20:51:18 pm
The idiot in charge needs to grow some bollocks and admit they aren't putting in 100%. I understand why he wouldn't admit it as looks awful on him, gain a lot more respect from fans by talking honestly though.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: bungle on September 15, 2018, 21:15:44 pm
Some thoughts:

1. We need to go back to basics. We are haemorrhaging goals so Austin needs to play the most defensively competent players in every position. That means recalling JJOT and playing one up front - probably Williams as the most hardworking striker. We do not have the personnel to play 442 and if Austin doesnt realise that then he will lose his job.

2. It is simplistic to blame the back four/five for our defensive ineptitude. However, Cornell is a keeper who simply does not keep clean sheets. Teams have clearly sussed out that he's vulnerable to long range shots. Ward kept a lot of clean sheets last year at a not massively dissimilar level - time to give him a try.






Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest47 on September 15, 2018, 21:19:07 pm
I prefer to ring the positives out of a bad situation . . . I’m excited about all those new grounds next season. 13 I’ve not been at all never mind with the Cobblers as it stands. Get in there.

Great work KT.

Good call and just think how much cheaper it will be to get into those grounds. It's a win win.... err not on the pitch though.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Shoemaker on September 15, 2018, 21:26:38 pm
There’ll be no standing up at sixfields
You’ll be told to sit down


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: tcobb on September 15, 2018, 21:34:53 pm
Good post Barton. Ive stated elsewhere there are serious problems at NTFC, staying in League two will be a big ask, it goes way further than the Manager. The Chairmanship, Recruitment, Coaching, Long term off field plans should all be questioned, the Club is rotten to the core.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: meccanostand on September 16, 2018, 08:16:17 am
Might not be as a bad thing in the long run as fans are waking up to the need for a proper vision for the club. Can't keep bumbling on from one owner to the next. The club needs to be built from the ground up as other progressive clubs are. 'It'l do' can't be acceptable anymore.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Battery Man on September 16, 2018, 08:21:21 am
If Austin is here to stay and nothing from the chairman suggests otherwise he needs to start shouting and getting angry with the players and drop those who aren’t performing. You listen to his interviews and he comes across as too pally with them he needs to learn quickly that he is the manager and get them back to basics. Forget the pretty passing game, kick people up in the air and fight for every single ball.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 16, 2018, 08:30:07 am
If Austin is here to stay and nothing from the chairman suggests otherwise he needs to start shouting and getting angry with the players and drop those who aren’t performing. You listen to his interviews and he comes across as too pally with them he needs to learn quickly that he is the manager and get them back to basics. Forget the pretty passing game, kick people up in the air and fight for every single ball.

Making only one change between the Cheltenham and Vale game speaks volumes.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: meccanostand on September 16, 2018, 08:36:30 am
Wonder if there are Conference release clauses.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on September 16, 2018, 10:17:55 am
I prefer to ring the positives out of a bad situation . . . I’m excited about all those new grounds next season. 13 I’ve not been at all never mind with the Cobblers as it stands. Get in there.

Great work KT.

There’s few things I love about your posts Ralph.. There is never any hint of sarcasm, or resignation about them. And.. You can guarantee a post from Alton will follow 😀😀

Never give up. Leave that to me. Even I’m out of it these days. I only catch the odd game at the moment mate..


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest48 on September 16, 2018, 10:36:21 am


Never give up. Leave that to me. Even I’m out of it these days. I only catch the odd game at the moment mate..
Could have been written by any number of our squad !!


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: BedsCobb on September 16, 2018, 12:40:28 pm
Good post Barton. Ive stated elsewhere there are serious problems at NTFC, staying in League two will be a big ask, it goes way further than the Manager. The Chairmanship, Recruitment, Coaching, Long term off field plans should all be questioned, the Club is rotten to the core.
For the last 15 years, the club has been a side show and a  gateway for outsider speculators to gain free land, loans and investment opportunities,  the clubs supporters have been pacified by big non materialising  promises and excuses  in order to buy and waste time to achieve their aims, all this time the club just ticks over and struggles  to survive without any investment, and its this that has led us, unsurprisingly  to be where we are now.








Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on September 16, 2018, 13:02:49 pm
Barton - you are absolutely right with your comments.  And for those that have used Beds for their summer sport it's about time you accepted that the theme of what he writes (not the economics) is also right.  The evidence is in front of your eyes. But for me the culture of any organisation has to be set by its owners and the present incumbents are a major disappointment for all the reasons Beds and others have pointed out time and time again.   

Unless a true white knight is out there waiting to take over the club then it is time for supporters to unite and tell the present crew i.e. owners, players, management that it is just not good enough. Notts County may be an important day and not only on the pitch.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 13:08:56 pm
Good post Barton. Ive stated elsewhere there are serious problems at NTFC, staying in League two will be a big ask, it goes way further than the Manager. The Chairmanship, Recruitment, Coaching, Long term off field plans should all be questioned, the Club is rotten to the core.

Except that a couple of decent wins won’t put right. The only thing I would query is the manager.  It also would help if we all stayed ‘hopeful’.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 13:22:39 pm
Barton - you are absolutely right with your comments.  And for those that have used Beds for their summer sport it's about time you accepted that the theme of what he writes (not the economics) is also right.  The evidence is in front of your eyes. But for me the culture of any organisation has to be set by its owners and the present incumbents are a major disappointment for all the reasons Beds and others have pointed out time and time again.   

Unless a true white knight is out there waiting to take over the club then it is time for supporters to unite and tell the present crew i.e. owners, players, management that it is just not good enough. Notts County may be an important day and not only on the pitch.

I find it so easy to disagree with you! - I shudder to think what may have happened if  we followed Beds plan! By far the most important solution is to improve the playing side/results! Incidentally those with at least 50% BP don’t agree with you and Beds. Why do you think the Admin guys reject your theories.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 13:30:38 pm
Some thoughts:

1. We need to go back to basics. We are haemorrhaging goals so Austin needs to play the most defensively competent players in every position. That means recalling JJOT and playing one up front - probably Williams as the most hardworking striker. We do not have the personnel to play 442 and if Austin doesnt realise that then he will lose his job.

2. It is simplistic to blame the back four/five for our defensive ineptitude. However, Cornell is a keeper who simply does not keep clean sheets. Teams have clearly sussed out that he's vulnerable to long range shots. Ward kept a lot of clean sheets last year at a not massively dissimilar level - time to give him a try.

   
 
Cornell is not a najor prob at the mo’ but we have nothing to lose by giving Ward  a go!


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Ron Obvious on September 16, 2018, 13:33:25 pm
   
 
Cornell is not a najor prob at the mo’ but we have nothing to lose by giving Ward  a go!

If your car has a nail in the tyre it is best to repair or replace the tyre not the wiper blades.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Mathius on September 16, 2018, 13:34:45 pm
DA has made mistakes but he's a new manager and it's far too early to write him off. Does anyone really blame him for the performances of this bunch of chumps. Most teams can carry a couple of players that lack character assuming they have ability. Most of our players lack character so what can DA achieve with them?


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on September 16, 2018, 13:42:33 pm
I find it so easy to disagree with you! - I shudder to think what may have happened if  we followed Beds plan! By far the most important solution is to improve the playing side/results! Incidentally those with at least 50% BP don’t agree with you and Beds. Why do you think the Admin guys reject your theories.

So you also disagree with Barton. I was careful in what I said about Beds and said the theme of his comments is accurate, not the economics. By that I mean an under-performing club with a sub-standard stadium and facilities not properly exploiting its catchment area. Read what I write before making your predictable knee-jerk reactions.

Clearly, you have taken a great dislike to me. So be it.  You think in your simplicity that there is nothing wrong with the club that a couple of wins won't put right. Papering over the cracks is not remotely a solution and a very large number of supporters here and elsewhere recognise that there is a wider malaise.  Your default position is not to rock the boat and support the status quo.  So it follows from this that you are content with things as they are and specifically our current owners.  As to your comment that "Admin guys reject your theories" I haven't a clue what you are talking about.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 13:42:44 pm
I am absolutely p*ssed of with EVERYTHING about NTFC at the moment. The vast majority of the players are going through the motions and if things don't change we will go down. Kelvin needs to either get out or provide some leadership and tell the wasters to start earning their money ! Ash Taylor, your form HAS dropped so don't insult our intelligence by saying otherwise, I know it and YOU know it. But Taylor is not the only one, lots of others are not in the slightest bothered about the results, they DON'T CARE about NTFC.
    It's time we let the players know that if they are not bothered they can f*ck off, I'd rather field the U18's team than the team of weak willed posers we have at the moment. This is OUR club, we will be here long after they have found out what it's like to have to work for a living.
    I agree that DA could do better, especially with game management, but Klopp would do well to get this lot to perform. I was at Barnet after 8 players had been sacked and we played the youth team and at least they all put 100% in, I don't think that's happened at NTFC since CW left.
 TIME TO STAND UP everyone otherwise see you in Braintree  :( 

It’s hard not to disagree with you R.  Perverse as it sounds I would do everything I could to encourage the team. Clearly some hard talking needs to be done during the coming week. This is were DA comes in - I hope.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 14:28:48 pm
So you also disagree with Barton. I was careful in what I said about Beds and said the theme of his comments is accurate, not the economics. By that I mean an under-performing club with a sub-standard stadium and facilities not properly exploiting its catchment area. Read what I write before making your predictable knee-jerk reactions.

Clearly, you have taken a great dislike to me. So be it.  You think in your simplicity that there is nothing wrong with the club that a couple of wins won't put right. Papering over the cracks is not remotely a solution and a very large number of supporters here and elsewhere recognise that there is a wider malaise.  Your default position is not to rock the boat and support the status quo.  So it follows from this that you are content with things as they are and specifically our current owners.  As to your comment that "Admin guys reject your theories" I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

I don’t  dislike you at all - never met you anyway! I don’t disagree with big R; it’s hard not to! I merely don’t subscribe to your theories on the Redev that’s all. Anyway post away


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: everbrite on September 16, 2018, 14:31:58 pm
DA has made mistakes but he's a new manager and it's far too early to write him off. Does anyone really blame him for the performances of this bunch of chumps. Most teams can carry a couple of players that lack character assuming they have ability. Most of our players lack character so what can DA achieve with them?

Agree with you Mathius - they need an all mighty kick up the bs!


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 16, 2018, 15:32:01 pm
So you also disagree with Barton. I was careful in what I said about Beds and said the theme of his comments is accurate, not the economics. By that I mean an under-performing club with a sub-standard stadium and facilities not properly exploiting its catchment area.


Agreed, although I disagree with Beds' decision to post the same thing half a dozen times a day every day infecting every thread.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on September 16, 2018, 16:54:09 pm
Agree with you Mathius - they need an all mighty kick up the bs!

Which is part of DA's job, so he IS responsible to the extent of making his players battle and fight. He's also said that he wouldn't change his squad for anyone else's in the division. He can't be held responsible for our almost unbelieveable ability to miss golden edged chances, but the attitude of a team is largely a reflection of the manager and our defending has never been right since he became manager.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 16, 2018, 18:03:21 pm
Which is part of DA's job, so he IS responsible to the extent of making his players battle and fight. He's also said that he wouldn't change his squad for anyone else's in the division. He can't be held responsible for our almost unbelieveable ability to miss golden edged chances, but the attitude of a team is largely a reflection of the manager and our defending has never been right since he became manager.

He hasn't said that recently has he?
The defending has been woeful for a long time now, well before DA arrived.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest3230 on September 16, 2018, 20:52:36 pm
Yeah the defending has been utter turd for ages, he just hasn't been able to solve it. Or anything else for that matter apart from we look a bit nicer to watch.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Ralap on September 17, 2018, 10:18:10 am
There’s few things I love about your posts Ralph.. There is never any hint of sarcasm, or resignation about them. And.. You can guarantee a post from Alton will follow 😀😀

Never give up. Leave that to me. Even I’m out of it these days. I only catch the odd game at the moment mate..

 ;D We’re compatible stalkers mate. You should get one, oh hang on... ;D

I obviously don’t want to go down Nige but if we do I can’t see why it shouldn’t be an enjoyable adventure. And mark my words my friend, if we do go down and eventually promoted back the promotion season itself will be such a party season to remember with loads of us at relatively smaller grounds. It just might be the thing that rekindles the passion of so many fans we have lost or are losing. Look at the likes of Lincoln or Hereford, they’re having a great time. Lincoln had something like 1200 fans at Mac on Saturday!


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: meccanostand on September 17, 2018, 10:33:40 am
It was a long old slog for Lincoln in the Conference tho. Wouldn't wish what happened to Hereford with Agombar on anyone. I love non league football but our league status needs to be protected at all costs imo. Well most costs!



Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on September 17, 2018, 10:55:24 am
;D We’re compatible stalkers mate. You should get one, oh hang on... ;D

I obviously don’t want to go down Nige but if we do I can’t see why it shouldn’t be an enjoyable adventure. And mark my words my friend, if we do go down and eventually promoted back the promotion season itself will be such a party season to remember with loads of us at relatively smaller grounds. It just might be the thing that rekindles the passion of so many fans we have lost or are losing. Look at the likes of Lincoln or Hereford, they’re having a great time. Lincoln had something like 1200 fans at Mac on Saturday!


Couldn't agree more mate. I can't process any more of it at the moment. I have my season ticket. But if someone tells me they are boiling their kettle or having their hair cut, I would pop round there to watch it at the moment rather than carry on in the same vein.

I blame Chris Wilder to a degree. I loved that season so much. I know they can't all be like that. Like you I have stood on the coal bank at Crewe. Dodged the pi$$ on the Hotel End and run around Abington Park after the scum. But football is more like Westminster than Wembley these days. The characters have gone and the pseudo city boys are suited up and ready to tell us what we need. You know that I spend all week in that environment. But I'm a doer. I like to see something positive in return for my love and loyalty. Perhaps I'm not of this time. But I'm proud of that. I'm happy to put in the hours, do the leg work, if there's something to aim for and enjoy. But when you Roger and plenty of others on here asking for a resolution, or even some sign of anything that resembles hope... Well; you know we are all getting to the end of our tether.

Winters coming (a bit game of thrones I know). The bike will be locked away soon. Give me something NTFC.... Anything. But just make it the truth...... 


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest3230 on September 17, 2018, 11:31:20 am
Couldn't agree more mate. I can't process any more of it at the moment. I have my season ticket. But if someone tells me they are boiling their kettle or having their hair cut, I would pop round there to watch it at the moment rather than carry on in the same vein.

I blame Chris Wilder to a degree. I loved that season so much. I know they can't all be like that. Like you I have stood on the coal bank at Crewe. Dodged the pi$$ on the Hotel End and run around Abington Park after the scum. But football is more like Westminster than Wembley these days. The characters have gone and the pseudo city boys are suited up and ready to tell us what we need. You know that I spend all week in that environment. But I'm a doer. I like to see something positive in return for my love and loyalty. Perhaps I'm not of this time. But I'm proud of that. I'm happy to put in the hours, do the leg work, if there's something to aim for and enjoy. But when you Roger and plenty of others on here asking for a resolution, or even some sign of anything that resembles hope... Well; you know we are all getting to the end of our tether.

Winters coming (a bit game of thrones I know). The bike will be locked away soon. Give me something NTFC.... Anything. But just make it the truth...... 

Good post Hammy.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Poggy on September 17, 2018, 12:20:47 pm
All does not appear to be well aboard the good ship Cobblers at the moment.

And another week of looking forward to stage managed soundbites from NTFC social media and constant plugging of all things none NTFC first team related news (charities, woman's football etc...) to deflect away from the failings on the pitch


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: guest2934 on September 18, 2018, 09:13:52 am
Time to stand up and walk out...

Let KT, the council and all the other bastards before them fight over the land. They can flatten Shitfields and be gone with the whole embarrassment.

Get some jumpers for goal posts and start again Wimbledon style. At least all the people around would be genuine and probably have a smile on their face again.

Get a few leagues up the pyramid again and share Franklins. Fuck em all I say.


Title: Re: Time to stand up
Post by: Ron Obvious on September 18, 2018, 17:08:09 pm
Time to stand up and walk out...


Get some jumpers for goal posts and start again


What about our less able or infirm fans?

Also what size jumpers? On the jumpers it would be best to state the size from the offset even though some will want them to be bigger.