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Title: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest48 on October 08, 2018, 16:28:09 pm
From the official site
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2018/october/staff_changes/

We are going to miss Melville sniffing out all those gems  :)


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest3230 on October 08, 2018, 16:35:13 pm
Gutted to see Melville leave. Had an uncanny knack of uncovering some real talent.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on October 08, 2018, 16:39:07 pm
Our loss is hopefully another clubs gain. It would be good to see him performing his duties equally as well at one of our rivals!  8)


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: andy scouse on October 08, 2018, 16:45:39 pm
Good piece of decision making in my book by our new manager, Thomas seemed to think Melville was the best thing since sliced bread but even he seems to admit now that they guy has not delivered.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: memyhead on October 08, 2018, 17:16:37 pm
Finally! This is great news...

Nice to see KC acting on these "issues" straight away.

Melville leaving could also have something to do with the imminent sale by KT too...


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest1269 on October 08, 2018, 17:30:27 pm
The sports scientist departure might also be a mark of a more pragmatic KC approach  - I’m not against sport scientists but first and foremost should be more basic fitness regimes that mean players can perform for a full 90 mins and avoid where possible injuries - some sports scientist’s techniques disappear up their own backsides with thousands of analytic measurements and the players still looked f***ed after 60 minutes and we get 3 hamstring strains from simple accelerated sprints.

I’m warming to KC - might not get us to the championship but I have less and less fear of relegation


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 17:49:02 pm
Within 7 days, Curle has dropped Buchs, dropped Taylor entirely from the squad, managed to only concede 1 in 2 and given Melville the boot. Initial thoughts were totally underwhelming. These acts however are winning him over very quickly for me  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Wolvo on October 08, 2018, 17:51:52 pm
Within 7 days, Curle has dropped Buchs, dropped Taylor entirely from the squad, managed to only concede 1 in 2 and given Melville the boot. Initial thoughts were totally underwhelming. These acts however are winning him over very quickly for me  ;D ;D

He's been building the east stand in the evenings as well.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 19:31:00 pm
 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest2995 on October 08, 2018, 19:54:56 pm
It must have cost a few quid to get rid of those lot .
Good to see though . The goalkeeping coach is a bit unlucky bearing in mind Cornell has improved considerably .
Noticeably , the youth set up has been left alone and quite rightly so .


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest3114 on October 08, 2018, 20:51:12 pm
I would be interested to know exactly how Melville’s role worked. Without knowing his level of responsibility it is rather unfair to comment. However, for the sake of his own professional reputation this should be clarified, as on face value his performance was an absolute disgrace.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Ralap on October 08, 2018, 20:54:31 pm
He's been building the east stand in the evenings as well.


Now that’s very disappointing, I’d have been far happier if he had been dismantling the bag of s***e instead.

Curle out! . . . Ooh, that doesn’t sound right.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: clarkeysntfc on October 08, 2018, 21:31:22 pm
I would be interested to know exactly how Melville’s role worked. Without knowing his level of responsibility it is rather unfair to comment. However, for the sake of his own professional reputation this should be clarified, as on face value his performance was an absolute disgrace.

Chief scout.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest3114 on October 09, 2018, 02:47:39 am
Chief scout.
What does that mean, did he listen to what the manager wanted and then present him with a number of possible candidates for assessment? Or did the manager say “I need a centre half” and Melville just went and got him one? I’m guessing both and all points inbetween. I think JEs recruitment plans went south with the introduction of the Chinese money. Carefully laid plans went out the window and they just went bonkers with the money burning a hole in their pocket? What they ended up with was a disjointed mish mash of players with big reputations and no substance. I’m assuming all led by Melville given the timeframes between the introduction of the money and the end of the transfer window, I doubt if JE would have had the breadth of knowledge regarding available options? It you recall it was left late to make the majority of the signings that summer, probably waiting to see if the cash turned up? And then when it did it was panic buy, buy, buy and from that we have never recovered. At least that’s what I’ve always assumed? That is all complete guesswork on my part, but I’d put my house on the fact that I’m not wrong.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest1269 on October 09, 2018, 06:56:57 am
.....again I think you are right

Unfettered access to money (or the promise of money) leads to poor decision making be it rubbish permanent or loan signings (Which are often expensive). When the Cardoza's first came in it was exactly the same situation with Wilko squandering a huge amount of money.

I know many disagree but I still think significant point in Chris Wilder's success was the point where there was a transfer embargo and he had to make do with the players he had rather than a succession of stop gap loan players.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest3063 on October 23, 2018, 08:28:37 am
Simon Tracey has joined as Chief Scout, worked with KC before at Carlisle. Mainly responsible for scouting opposition and the scouting network.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Clarity on October 23, 2018, 09:10:26 am
First on the agenda, two new wing backs


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Coolcat on October 23, 2018, 09:37:05 am
Don't wish to appear negative, maybe concerned but...if this scout, West and Co brought in were are so brilliant (as Curle states) why did Carlisle not set the league on fire - ala Wilder n Knill with the Cobblers?


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Poggy on October 23, 2018, 09:47:24 am
First on the agenda, two new wing backs

It'll take at least a couple of transfer windows to sort this squad around

I would add some midfield creativity as well as wing backs as a priory in January


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest2995 on October 23, 2018, 10:05:03 am
It’s good to see a complete new broom at the club .
Who knows how good they will be but let’s face it , the record of previous managers , coaches , scouts and physios hasn’t been good since Wilder left and it can only get better .
The only thing that hasn’t changed significantly is the youth set up , with the exception of Gould going .
JB coming in and nurturing those players through has been the best thing that has happened at this club in recent times outside of the promotion season .


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Mathius on October 23, 2018, 11:13:55 am
We still need to appoint someone to fill the vacancy left by Gould. JB has done a very good job but the older ones in the youth set-up have been recording good results for a number of years. They're playing in the regional quarter final of the Alliance Cup on Saturday. I will watch that before watching us beat Oldham later in the day.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest2995 on October 23, 2018, 12:32:04 pm
We still need to appoint someone to fill the vacancy left by Gould. JB has done a very good job but the older ones in the youth set-up have been recording good results for a number of years. They're playing in the regional quarter final of the Alliance Cup on Saturday. I will watch that before watching us beat Oldham later in the day.
I think where there is a need for and under 21 team in which youth players can make the step up to the first team without going on loan .
I know the club knows this and there are plans afoot


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: Mathius on October 23, 2018, 13:49:20 pm
Good to hear. A lot of clubs with less money than ours have an U23s. This is something that should have been set up years ago. You are right when you say there should be a step after U18s.


Title: Re: Back room staff changes
Post by: guest3114 on October 23, 2018, 18:39:26 pm
I was really looking forward to KTs thoughts on Melville during his recent appearance on Noddy. Unfortunately due to the “Sing along a Mark” feature there wasn’t time to ask. Never mind eh?