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Title: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2018, 15:31:13 pm
Lets start a proper thread for all our January dealings in the latest transfer window.

All rumours welcome, even the ridiculous ones  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on December 27, 2018, 15:45:11 pm
Hallem Hope... Carlisle - standard signing from an ex manager

Ricky Homles (on loan)

Enoch Ebo Andoh (Nuneaton)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 27, 2018, 15:47:29 pm
Hallem Hope... Carlisle - standard signing from an ex manager

Ricky Homles (on loan)

Enoch Ebo Andoh (Nuneaton)

Are these rumours or just left overs from your wish list to Santa?  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on December 27, 2018, 15:49:28 pm
Ricky Holmes is injured and expected to be out for a number of weeks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on December 27, 2018, 16:06:19 pm
so he is currently better than Hoskins Waters Bridge Powell then.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on December 27, 2018, 16:09:19 pm
Was watching Hope last night on the goals on quest and thought would Curle be in for him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MunchyMagic on December 27, 2018, 16:58:27 pm
Was watching Hope last night on the goals on quest and thought would Curle be in for him.

Rumour has it that we (Carlisle United) are in the crap financially and all bar two of our players are out of contract at the end of the season so if Keith did fancy any of them then the biggest earners will be given the push and you will get them with ease.

There was a funny story when Hope left Bury he went to Los Angeles or somewhere near in America for his holidays and Keith flew out there and hounded him - the story is obviously true as Keith himself confirmed it on the radio, he said that "I ran after Hallam more than I have ever chased after a woman in my life" :D

The bit that angered the fans was the rumour that to sign Hope then we had to sign his apparently 'rubbish' mate Kelvin Etuhu who was also released by Bury - turned out that Etuhu was quality, possibly our most consistent performer this season and would easily average a seven for his performances.

I would not like to lose either or both of those two but it looks imminent even if not to yourselves, Keith likes Devitt and Jones who are also on high money and out of favour (Devitt was swearing at our manager on Saturday even though we won 6-0).

It wouldn't surprise me if you go in for Bury's Adams or Cambridge's Ibehre as Keith loves the pair of them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on December 27, 2018, 17:07:35 pm
Ricky Holmes is injured and expected to be out for a number of weeks.
And even when not injured, he's injured! Has to have regular injections. Despite his quality, appears on the wane and inconsistent appearances as well as performances, is expected to return to his parent club from Oxford Utd.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2018, 17:17:05 pm
Rumour has it that we (Carlisle United) are in the crap financially and all bar two of our players are out of contract at the end of the season so if Keith did fancy any of them then the biggest earners will be given the push and you will get them with ease.

There was a funny story when Hope left Bury he went to Los Angeles or somewhere near in America for his holidays and Keith flew out there and hounded him - the story is obviously true as Keith himself confirmed it on the radio, he said that "I ran after Hallam more than I have ever chased after a woman in my life" :D

The bit that angered the fans was the rumour that to sign Hope then we had to sign his apparently 'rubbish' mate Kelvin Etuhu who was also released by Bury - turned out that Etuhu was quality, possibly our most consistent performer this season and would easily average a seven for his performances.

I would not like to lose either or both of those two but it looks imminent even if not to yourselves, Keith likes Devitt and Jones who are also on high money and out of favour (Devitt was swearing at our manager on Saturday even though we won 6-0).

It wouldn't surprise me if you go in for Bury's Adams or Cambridge's Ibehre as Keith loves the pair of them.

Thanks for the info.

However, there is no-way that Nicky Adams would re-sign for us. He left us to join you at Carlisle and to be closer to his family in the Manchester area, so Bury is where he will stay, unfortunately. We are also trying to reduce our wage budget, so doubt we will sign your high earners.         


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MunchyMagic on December 27, 2018, 17:39:45 pm
Thanks for the info.

However, there is no-way that Nicky Adams would re-sign for us. He left us to join you at Carlisle and to be closer to his family in the Manchester area, so Bury is where he will stay, unfortunately. We are also trying to reduce our wage budget, so doubt we will sign your high earners.         

No problem pal.

However we have had players in recent times who wanted to leave as we were too far north and they wanted to be nearer family in London and when they left they promptly signed for Scottish clubs :D

As for reducing your wage bill, I am guessing that a lot of your players are on League One salaries and Keith knows exactly what our players are on as he signed them - our highest earners will be on about a grand to fifteen hundred quid a week, apart from Gerrard who is on more allegedly but his contract is up next month anyhow.

What is the wage structure like at your place mate? - I do know that Keith put incentives into all his signings here with massive win bonuses and clean sheet bonuses so expect these at Northampton.

It worked for us a couple of seasons back and we were top of the league at Christmas - then because we were winning loads of games then the bonuses kicked in to the point that we ran out of money and stopped paying them the bonuses!

To cut a long story short Keith had a rant on the radio saying that people inside the club were against him, the club apparently were in their rights not to pay the bonuses after the players took it to the FA and we dropped like a stone, to the point where we had to win at Exeter on the final day to make the play-offs and we scraped into them.

It was a complete mess and the Carlisle United board shafted him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on December 27, 2018, 17:48:42 pm
No problem pal.

However we have had players in recent times who wanted to leave as we were too far north and they wanted to be nearer family in London and when they left they promptly signed for Scottish clubs :D

As for reducing your wage bill, I am guessing that a lot of your players are on League One salaries and Keith knows exactly what our players are on as he signed them - our highest earners will be on about a grand to fifteen hundred quid a week, apart from Gerrard who is on more allegedly but his contract is up next month anyhow.

What is the wage structure like at your place mate? - I do know that Keith put incentives into all his signings here with massive win bonuses and clean sheet bonuses so expect these at Northampton.

WOW  , clean sheet bonus  :o wed turn a profit every season if we applied that

It worked for us a couple of seasons back and we were top of the league at Christmas - then because we were winning loads of games then the bonuses kicked in to the point that we ran out of money and stopped paying them the bonuses!

To cut a long story short Keith had a rant on the radio saying that people inside the club were against him, the club apparently were in their rights not to pay the bonuses after the players took it to the FA and we dropped like a stone, to the point where we had to win at Exeter on the final day to make the play-offs and we scraped into them.

It was a complete mess and the Carlisle United board shafted him.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MunchyMagic on December 27, 2018, 18:04:35 pm


That's what I mean pal, the players have to earn it but there is an incentive to earn big money if you are successful - our board bricked it when we went on that winning run and we had ran out of money by Christmas, half way through the season.

There is no better way to implode than when you are top of the league and you reward your players by stopping their bonuses.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2018, 18:20:09 pm
Yes MunchyMagic most of our players are on League One wages, although they were apparently reduced following relegation. Our Chairman has already stated that we need to bring the spending down in the next two transfer windows, so it will be interesting to see what activity takes place in January. 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MunchyMagic on December 27, 2018, 19:24:26 pm
Yes MunchyMagic most of our players are on League One wages, although they were apparently reduced following relegation. Our Chairman has already stated that we need to bring the spending down in the next two transfer windows, so it will be interesting to see what activity takes place in January. 

We had that problem after relegation with lazy players sitting tight on high wages and Keith got rid of them - Paynter was a waste of space but Dicker divided the fans as he was pretty decent but Keith made them do extra training as they were always coming back from injury and they reported him to the FA.

Paynter by the way was on a fortune and claimed he had nowhere to stay as he was from Liverpool so slept in his car at times in the club car park till he found a caravan out somewhere along the Solway!

Keith got lucky and offloaded him to Hartlepool and he managed to help relegate them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on December 27, 2018, 21:42:55 pm
Draw incentives I've heard!  :P


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 29, 2018, 18:45:40 pm
Who mentioned (Mathius) that Zaser Kasim has already left the club? He was out doing the warm down with the subs after the game according to Jeremy Casey along with John-Joe O'Toole.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on December 29, 2018, 19:44:38 pm
KC said after the game he's a few things possibly lined up (regarding transfers)...
Hopefully, some clubs will also come in for some of our players too as we really need to ship some out...Can't keep persevering with the same underperforming players



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OldStratfordCobbler on December 29, 2018, 22:10:21 pm
Draw incentives I've heard!  :P
Very good, Rob!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on December 30, 2018, 13:09:43 pm
I notice that Karl Henry left Bradford last week - if rumours are to be believed we were interested before he went up there several weeks back. Iíve no idea why he cut short his stay, I suppose it could be fitness related.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 30, 2018, 13:33:51 pm
I notice that Karl Henry left Bradford last week - if rumours are to be believed we were interested before he went up there several weeks back. Iíve no idea why he cut short his stay, I suppose it could be fitness related.

Interesting, we all know KC was in for him previously. Maybe the offer of a longer contract here or elsewhere is the reason he's left Bradford early (he signed a short term deal until the end of January).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on December 30, 2018, 14:16:54 pm
According to Bradford fans, no great loss as his legs have gone at 36!
Let's move on from journeymen...

I'd rather we start properly blooding some of our talented youth to see if they can cut it.

I'm sure Cam McWilliams would have faired better than Waters at rwb yesterday...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on December 30, 2018, 14:18:46 pm
You can argue that but equally Mcwilliams is struggling at the moment. Young man thrust into a struggling side could mean the end of a career.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on December 30, 2018, 16:54:57 pm
Lawrence Shankland.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on December 30, 2018, 16:56:50 pm
Lawrence Shankland.
Who?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on December 30, 2018, 17:01:28 pm
Lawrence Shankland.
Are there two Lawrence Shanklands?

The one who plays for Ayr has interest from Celtic,rangers and Sunderland so it canít be him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on December 30, 2018, 17:23:57 pm
Got to agree - the chances of us signing a promising, young striker who has interest from top clubs and would obviously require a decent fee are slim to none. Much more likely is either an overpaid veteran whose legs are gone - Karl Henry - or a non-scoring, overpaid troublemaker like Nile Ranger.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on December 30, 2018, 17:25:49 pm
Hes now training With Notts County


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on December 30, 2018, 17:32:19 pm
Are there two Lawrence Shanklands?
One Lawrence Shankland thereís only one Lawrence Shankland


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 30, 2018, 18:44:54 pm
I have heard the name Shaun Brisley mentioned.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 30, 2018, 19:14:15 pm
I have heard the name Shaun Brisley mentioned.

Joined us on loan in 2015. Also played under Curle at Carlisle but was released early from his contract to sign for Notts County. Solid centre half from what I remember.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on December 30, 2018, 19:32:03 pm
I have heard the name Shaun Brisley mentioned.

No thanks - not really any better than what we already have (with the possible exception of Taylor) and he's hardly been setting the world alight at the team that is propping the league up. He's also pretty injury prone.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on December 30, 2018, 21:06:26 pm
I have heard the name Shaun Brisley mentioned.

So we sign this journeyman who Notts County fans will pay to take off their hands or we finally give Jay Williams a pro contract and start properly blooding one of our own...



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on December 30, 2018, 23:20:18 pm
Sure I read somewhere that KC quite likes a journeyman. I may have dreamt it mind.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on December 31, 2018, 13:57:20 pm
Sure I read somewhere that KC quite likes a journeyman. I may have dreamt it mind.
That'll serve him well here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Carlo Corazzins Corduroy on December 31, 2018, 15:17:03 pm
Aren't near enough all lower league signings journeymen? Especially in January when everyone is still under contract.

I don't think we're a million miles away from a decent side. Definitely need some width/pace, preferably wing-backs if we're going down that route. Potentially another keeper and defensive mid, but think both Cornell and Turnbull are serviceable in those roles.

Main priority is to start shifting some of the deadwood.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on December 31, 2018, 15:20:19 pm
Aren't near enough all lower league signings journeymen? Especially in January when everyone is still under contract.

I don't think we're a million miles away from a decent side. Definitely need some width/pace, preferably wing-backs if we're going down that route. Potentially another keeper and defensive mid, but think both Cornell and Turnbull are serviceable in those roles.

Main priority is to start shifting some of the deadwood.



Clarke Carlisle was a pretty decent 'journeyman' signing too ;0)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MunchyMagic on December 31, 2018, 16:01:58 pm
I have heard the name Shaun Brisley mentioned.

Shaun Brisley is not that great and Curle could not wait to get rid of him so that would surprise me and if he is that good then why are Notts County second bottom....

Two of our players have just asked to go out on loan for game time and their contracts are up at the end of the season, Jones and Bennett - Curle signed both of them and we paid 50k for Bennett.

Bennett frustrated Curle and has not really shone but when Curle used him effectively he would get the goal in a 1-0 win whereas Jones is a big favourite of Curle, and a decent footballer as well so don't be amazed if he turns up at your place.

You could do far worse.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on December 31, 2018, 17:38:59 pm
Shaun Brisley in his brief stint with us played quite a lot like Taylor does now, good in the air, not so comfortable on the deck. He scored once if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 31, 2018, 19:08:11 pm
Clarke Carlisle was a pretty decent 'journeyman' signing too ;0)
Really? Old 50p head. Should have put his glasses on. Not pretty decent at all. Just my opinion though, before you all gather your pitchforks and chase me round the Tavern.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on December 31, 2018, 19:14:27 pm
If the crop of young players at the club are as good as they are cracked up to be, this season should be about building an experienced spine of the team with a nucleus of solid league 2 pros and blooding the young lads alongside them.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Carlo Corazzins Corduroy on January 01, 2019, 00:24:16 am
Clarke Carlisle was a pretty decent 'journeyman' signing too ;0)

Ricky Holmes also depending on your definition of journeyman! Alternatively taking a punt on talented players with injury problems sometimes works out, i.e. the likes of Bayo and Gyepes.

Given we're relatively safe from the drop, and with minimal chance of a promotion push, I'd rather we didn't  get extra bodies for the sake of it. Now is probably a decent time to bed in some of youth without much risk and lay the groundwork for next season. If we off loaded a few without bringing anyone in it might make a boring second half to the season, but puts us in good shape for a summer shake up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 01, 2019, 08:52:04 am
Ricky Holmes also depending on your definition of journeyman! Alternatively taking a punt on talented players with injury problems sometimes works out, i.e. the likes of Bayo and Gyepes.

Given we're relatively safe from the drop, and with minimal chance of a promotion push, I'd rather we didn't  get extra bodies for the sake of it. Now is probably a decent time to bed in some of youth without much risk and lay the groundwork for next season. If we off loaded a few without bringing anyone in it might make a boring second half to the season, but puts us in good shape for a summer shake up.

Happy New Year all.
Frankly would love to see a promotion tilt - it's good for morale! If any of the young players are deemed good enough then play them anyway!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 09:01:21 am
Intrest from Cheltenham for Waters


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 01, 2019, 09:26:10 am
Is Cheltenham a Spa town?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: defender on January 01, 2019, 09:53:57 am
Joined us on loan in 2015. Also played under Curle at Carlisle but was released early from his contract to sign for Notts County. Solid centre half from what I remember.
Ilike the sound of thids.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 01, 2019, 10:07:49 am
It's almost halfway through January 1st, have we signed anyone yet??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 10:11:34 am
Is Cheltenham a Spa town?

Not sure, but I know it's got a Lidl's...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 01, 2019, 10:19:03 am
Ilike the sound of thids.

What bit?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 01, 2019, 14:11:02 pm
IMHO Curle's first big decision is whether he wants to continue with 5-3-2. If he does, then I think we need four key players:

1. LWB - the wingbacks are obviously key to making this formation work. An effective wing-back needs to have pace, crossing ability and defensive nous - a tall order at this level. Buchanan has been a great servant but at the very least he needs competition in this area. I still think Bunney might be worth a recall if the terms of his loan allow it: he has the pace and crossing ability and his undoubted defensive deficiencies might be less problematic in League Two.

2. RWB - for some reason Facey hasn't shown the form which he showed when he first came to the club. Again, he needs competition at the very least.

3. New centre back - Barnett's retirement leaves us a centre back short. Taylor's form has been much discussed on here and in general we need someone with a bit of composure who can play out from the back and make an extra man in midfield when necessary.

4. Experienced terrier like central midfielder. We need someone in there to get the best out of Crooks and to compete with O'Toole and McWilliams.

Ideally it would be good to also sign a left-sided winger to provide the option to go 4-4-2/4-2-3-1 off the bench.

I think our forward line as it stands is more than good enough for this level, especially as we'll hopefully see a lot more from Morais in the coming weeks.

I'm a bit ambivalent on the Cornell issue. At the moment I still think our goals against column is down primarily to defensive issues rather than goalkeeper ones. I certainly wouldn't be averse to Curle sending Ward back and bringing in some more serious competition for the jersey.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 14:59:01 pm
I see Jayden Stockley had a release clause built into his contract at Exeter which has been met by a number of clubs.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 16:11:24 pm
I also see Cody Mcdonald is scoring goals for Ebbsfleet in the confrence. Hes the fox in a box type goalscorer we could do with. 32 and im aure would svore goals at our level


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 01, 2019, 16:38:13 pm
I see Jayden Stockley had a release clause built into his contract at Exeter which has been met by a number of clubs.
Iíd imagine MK will sign him


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 16:40:33 pm
Iíd imagine MK will sign him

Might be wrong but think he might go higher than lg2


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 01, 2019, 17:09:32 pm
Ha. We aren't going to sign anyone decent are we.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 01, 2019, 17:11:26 pm
Ha. We aren't going to sign anyone decent are we.
I doubt it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 01, 2019, 17:11:56 pm
I see Jayden Stockley had a release clause built into his contract at Exeter which has been met by a number of clubs.

Have you posted this because you think we are going to sign him?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 17:14:35 pm
Have you posted this because you think we are going to sign him?
Nope no chance, just thought it was intresting as his soneone we could have invested in and sold on at a profit, he was also a real handful first half down there till Ash came on.

Think they paid Aberdeen 100k for him, so be intresting to see what they get for him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 01, 2019, 17:16:02 pm
Have you posted this because you think we are going to sign him?
Itís a no go isnít it
If you read the post it says a number of clubs
The only way he will come here is if there are three clubs in for him
Us,notts county and Macclesfield!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 01, 2019, 17:17:05 pm
Iíd imagine MK will sign him

MK already have two strikers who are joint 3rd in the scoring charts on 11 goals each. Befoe you say it, yes I know Stockley is joint top.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 01, 2019, 17:19:39 pm
Itís a no go isnít it
If you read the post it says a number of clubs
The only way he will come here is if there are three clubs in for him
Us,notts county and Macclesfield!!!

I read it just couldnít fathom out what some random striker who is clearly going to be playing at a higher level has to do with us


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 01, 2019, 17:20:32 pm
I heard PNE for stockley although Iím sure others are sniffing around if heís got a release clause (p**h for example). Meanwhile weíre more likely to lose the only creativity that weíve got in the squad - crooks/Van veen - to make room for journeymen from Carlisle who canít even get into their starting lineup. What a time to be alive.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 01, 2019, 18:05:54 pm
Joe Bunney not involved for Blackpool again today, not even on the bench.

Have Cobblers recalled him?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 01, 2019, 18:12:51 pm
Probably have, need to try someone new at right wing back don't we.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 01, 2019, 18:14:20 pm
Probably have, need to try someone new at right wing back don't we.

Left mate.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 01, 2019, 18:16:50 pm
Left mate.

Sorry, should have included an emoji to show it was a joke about how many people we have tried at right wing back.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 01, 2019, 19:40:17 pm
Sc***horpe United interested in re-signing Kevin van Veen.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 01, 2019, 19:50:45 pm
Sc***horpe United interested in re-signing Kevin van Veen.

Poxford in the hunt too apparently


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 01, 2019, 19:54:02 pm
I've already mentioned JJOT and KVV will be leaving.

KT needs to balance the books.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 01, 2019, 20:00:51 pm
Sc***horpe United interested in re-signing Kevin van Veen.
Indeed.

http://www.anyoldironblog.com/2019/01/sc***horpe-director-responds-to-rumours.html


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 01, 2019, 20:08:45 pm
I've already mentioned JJOT and KVV will be leaving.

KT needs to balance the books.

So you know this for sure?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 02, 2019, 16:17:35 pm
KvV has signed a 2 and a half year deal with Scunny according to their local reporter.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 02, 2019, 16:26:09 pm
Given that thereís still approx 18 months left on his contract Iíd hope thereís a fee of some sort involved.
Sure that the chunk of the wage bill helps also provided a percentage is reinvested in a replacement


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 02, 2019, 16:26:27 pm
KvV has signed a 2 and a half year deal with Scunny according to their local reporter.
Looks like a done deal.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 16:28:32 pm
why doesn't our local press 'break' stories like this instead of simply telling us after the club have officially announced such news.

whilst i am sure we would all like him to stay, have to say i am not overly disappointed.  i would be more bothered if pierre, turnbull, crooks or foley left.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 02, 2019, 16:43:21 pm
Struggling league 2 side sells/gives away their top scorer to a team in a higher division....whoíd have thought it?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 02, 2019, 16:58:01 pm
KVV never wanted to be at this club from the start . He also lives in Doncaster area.
First day of the window and heís back home .
£5k a week off the wage bill and I can only hope we recovered what we paid , which was substantial.
The question is , will we be allowed to sign anyone of any quality by the chairman.
Somehow I doubt it .
Depressing times .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 02, 2019, 17:03:18 pm
KVV confirmed now


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 17:04:04 pm
the clubs confirmation is fairly amusing, they have written it (accurately) to make it sound as bad as possible. 7 league goals of which 3 were from the pen spot.  pretty dismal for a reported 260k in wages


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 02, 2019, 17:06:07 pm
The old undisclosed fee...

I eagerly await the signing of a young player on loan for the rest of the season...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 02, 2019, 17:09:09 pm
The old undisclosed fee...

I eagerly await the signing of a young player on loan for the rest of the season...

Or Nile Ranger  :)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:11:56 pm
Good luck to the lad. One of the big money boys had to go. Give about three or four of the youngsters pro contracts with the cash.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 02, 2019, 17:12:58 pm
the clubs confirmation is fairly amusing, they have written it (accurately) to make it sound as bad as possible. 7 league goals of which 3 were from the pen spot.  pretty dismal for a reported 260k in wages
Money a couple of months ago we were lauding him as the 20/25 goal a season striker!!

Yes see who if anyone comes in to replace him.....the timing of it smacks of budget cutting...but letís see eh?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 02, 2019, 17:14:23 pm
No more players that don't want to be here please!!!

First requirement of any new signings.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:17:59 pm
No more players that don't want to be here please!!!

First requirement of any new signings.

I hope we can use that philosophy on our "fans" ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:21:49 pm
the clubs confirmation is fairly amusing, they have written it (accurately) to make it sound as bad as possible. 7 league goals of which 3 were from the pen spot.  pretty dismal for a reported 260k in wages

It's quite a different view here...

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-van-veen-makes-sensational-2383514


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 17:25:49 pm
Money a couple of months ago we were lauding him as the 20/25 goal a season striker!!

Yes see who if anyone comes in to replace him.....the timing of it smacks of budget cutting...but letís see eh?

absolutely cost cutting, we gambled on staying in L1 in January 18 and KVV was one of those gambles that failed along with the other 8 that joined 12 months ago.  we gambled again in the summer that they would get us back up and they have (so far) failed again.  balancing the books was always on the cards

he has scored 26 league goals in 3 years, getting 20 in one was always going to be a significant ask.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 17:27:59 pm
It's quite a different view here...

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-van-veen-makes-sensational-2383514

good luck to him, but there is a reason why he is bobbing between sc***horpe and northampton.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 02, 2019, 17:28:30 pm
Good riddance. Never put his heart into it. Terrible signing as he was just in a sulk with Scunny at the time and went to ludicrous lengths (leaving) to prove it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 02, 2019, 17:29:28 pm
Think they are right in saying the move suits both parties.

KVV - Clearly talented, unsure if he wanted to be here and on a ton of money.

Cobblers - Cost cutting, in need of players that will give 110% and looking to trim the squad/free up some wages.

A real shame as KVV was a marquee type signing for us, but at the present time it is probably the right decision. The form of Williams lately and the return of Morias should make this (hopefully) look like a no brainer at the end of the season.


Good luck KVV, where is the money going Mr Thomas?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:30:43 pm
Good riddance. Never put his heart into it.

Not true Mr/Mrs Git.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 02, 2019, 17:33:52 pm
Not that bothered about KVV going. I wasnít really that excited when he signed for us in all honesty due to his very average goal scoring record. Even this year half his goals were pens. He has moments of magic but Iíd like to see us go and get someone with a better goal scoring record.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2019, 17:36:40 pm
At the start of the season he was immense. Absolutely unplayable and I was thrilled that we still had him. He's had plenty of moments since then too.

But he's not been consistent enough for his undoubted ridiculous salary. And tbh this wouldn't have bothered me too much. But his effort level yesterday was pathetic. And based on that, I'm not bothered about this news all.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:37:22 pm
. Even this year half his goals were pens.

3 pens

7 not pens.

= not half!  ::)



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 17:38:00 pm
didn't quite realise how poorly supported sc***horpe are.

less than 3.5k for their last home game of 2018.  they took less than 250 to peterborough.

probably the wrong thread but how have they managed to survive in L1 (very successfully) to date?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 17:39:59 pm
didn't quite realise how poorly supported sc***horpe are.

less than 3.5k for their last home game of 2018.  they took less than 250 to peterborough.

probably the wrong thread but how have they managed to survive in L1 (very successfully) to date?

Gaining more points than the bottom four.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 02, 2019, 17:41:42 pm
Money a couple of months ago we were lauding him as the 20/25 goal a season striker!!

Yes see who if anyone comes in to replace him.....the timing of it smacks of budget cutting...but letís see eh?
There will be budget cuts . Thatís been made clear already


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 02, 2019, 17:50:29 pm
his last league goal from open play (not pen or direct free kick) was 18 August v Cambridge.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 02, 2019, 18:00:01 pm


 But his effort level yesterday was pathetic. And based on that, I'm not bothered about this news all.
Must of already knew he was going back to Sc***horpe.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 02, 2019, 18:02:06 pm

The question is , will we be allowed to sign anyone of any quality by the chairman.
Somehow I doubt it .
Depressing times .


Lets hope it is replacement Keeper!




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 02, 2019, 18:03:30 pm
Indeed.

http://www.anyoldironblog.com/2019/01/sc***horpe-director-responds-to-rumours.html

Great link that Knocker ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2019, 18:06:22 pm
Must of already knew he was going back to Sc***horpe.

Certainly made sense when we heard the rumour as we drove home.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 02, 2019, 18:22:21 pm
Not true Mr/Mrs Git.
I agree Mr/Mrs Obvious  :o KVV is a very good player give the correct service, something that as never going to happen with the creative options we have.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 18:32:51 pm
I agree Mr/Mrs Obvious  :o KVV is a very good player give the correct service, something that as never going to happen with the creative options we have.

Mr

I think we may have them within the younger lads. Out of the players selected though I fully agree. Only Bowditch and to a lesser degree Bridge seem able to put in a telling cross other than van Veen himself. Possibly Turnbull as seen against FGR.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 02, 2019, 18:48:52 pm
Given KC's interview on the offy site where he states that VV didn't fit into his vision of a quick, attacking team I would have thought that jjot and buchs don't exactly fit that style either and may well be looking over their shoulders.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 02, 2019, 18:51:18 pm
7 league goals (3 of which pens), which puts him at the heady heights of 16th in the top goal scoring charts of League Two.

An undoubtedly talented player whose moments of occasional mercurial brilliance disguised a lack of consistent end product and a problematic attitude. Also a potentially divisive dressing-room influence I would have thought, although that part seems to have improved this season.

A big loss from an excitement/entertainment perspective but if Curle can bring in a more consistent replacement then the move could be beneficial.  


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 02, 2019, 19:11:37 pm
7 league goals (3 of which pens), which puts him at the heady heights of 16th in the top goal scoring charts of League Two.

An undoubtedly talented player whose moments of occasional mercurial brilliance disguised a lack of consistent end product and a problematic attitude. Also a potentially divisive dressing-room influence I would have thought, although that part seems to have improved this season.

A big loss from an excitement/entertainment perspective but if Curle can bring in a more consistent replacement then the move could be beneficial.  
Can't disagree with any of that.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 19:16:36 pm
One thing is probably going to ring true. We will give away less fouls around the half way line without KvV. I didn't get the chance for my sending off prediction to come true although I will keep an eye on Scunny and will still claim success if he gets sent off for them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 02, 2019, 19:23:36 pm
3 pens

7 not pens.

= not half!  ::)



Take out his goals in cup competitions (which nobody really cares about) and youíre a lot closer to half  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 02, 2019, 19:43:39 pm
With his 5k a week we could bring in 3 players and still have change to spare.

Yes he was quality, but a luxury that we cannot afford (Crooks is the same).

Let's get some quality in now that will be key


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 19:46:53 pm
Take out his goals in cup competitions (which nobody really cares about) and youíre a lot closer to half  ;)

I was dealing in the actual fact, not twisting and warping things to suite my view.  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 02, 2019, 19:49:57 pm
With his 5k a week we could bring in 3 players and still have change to spare.

Yes he was quality, but a luxury that we cannot afford (Crooks is the same).

Let's get some quality in now that will be key
I doubt we will replace him as itís Ďbalancing the booksĒtime to quote an ex chairman....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 02, 2019, 19:50:52 pm
Financially it probably makes sense but personally I'm gutted to see him go, one of the very few players we have that can light up a football pitch with a moment of magic.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 02, 2019, 19:57:38 pm
I doubt we will replace him as itís Ďbalancing the booksĒtime to quote an ex chairman....

Ever remaining hopeful shoey.

We will see some movement back in surely.

It's intrested that Carlisle players are on 1.5k a week tops. So say you bought 2 of them in you would still be saving 2k a week on KVV


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 20:01:00 pm
With his 5k a week we could bring in 3 players and still have change to spare.

Yes he was quality, but a luxury that we cannot afford (Crooks is the same).

Let's get some quality in now that will be key

I do hope they run any potential signings past you first with your unmatched knowledge on all things football.  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 02, 2019, 20:04:08 pm
I do hope they run any potential signings past you first with your unmatched knowledge on all things football.  ;D

That be wise to Ronald, I mantain that was always Jimmys biggest failing! 😉😂😂😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 02, 2019, 20:08:55 pm
With his 5k a week we could bring in 3 players and still have change to spare.

Yes he was quality, but a luxury that we cannot afford (Crooks is the same).

Let's get some quality in now that will be key

Well letís see if this is about saving 5k a week or about getting in three players and having change!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 20:11:24 pm
That be wise to Ronald, I mantain that was always Jimmys biggest failing! 😉😂😂😂


Actually, I hope I haven't undersold your talents? The Saints and the Steelbacks would probably pay handsomely for your talent in spotting a winner.  


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cj on January 02, 2019, 20:13:24 pm
Financially it probably makes sense but personally I'm gutted to see him go, one of the very few players we have that can light up a football pitch with a moment of magic.
Absolutely Agree.
As Curle said, a very very good footballer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 02, 2019, 20:16:07 pm
I do hope they run any potential signings past you first with your unmatched knowledge on all things football.  ;D

No goal keeper yet Frank - why is this?.... :D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 02, 2019, 20:21:07 pm
I love the wage figures banded about....

Iíd imagine no one on here has a clue who earns what.
Why would they?
Itís not as if KVV ever ran round the sixfields tavern waving his pay cheque around is it?

If people are as in the know about wages as they are about future signings(Iíve not seen a correct prediction in this regard since Jefferson il tell me mates Lake left the building) then I think we can take any wage info with a pinch of salt!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblerwatch on January 02, 2019, 20:23:37 pm
7 league goals (3 of which pens), which puts him at the heady heights of 16th in the top goal scoring charts of League Two.

An undoubtedly talented player whose moments of occasional mercurial brilliance disguised a lack of consistent end product and a problematic attitude. Also a potentially divisive dressing-room influence I would have thought, although that part seems to have improved this season.

A big loss from an excitement/entertainment perspective but if Curle can bring in a more consistent replacement then the move could be beneficial.  

As always good thoughts - just to add watching the FG game 3 times he lost the ball cheaply and absolutely no attempt to recover it - comparing him with the ďslowĒ Buchanan the ďuselessĒ Hoskins and the ďyoungĒ McWilliams I know who I would want in the trenches with me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 02, 2019, 20:30:03 pm
I love the wage figures banded about....
If people are as in the know about wages as they are about future signings(Iíve not seen a correct prediction in this regard since Jefferson il tell me mates Lake left the building) then I think we can take any wage info with a pinch of salt!


£4k a week on Football Manager 2018 if that helps?  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 02, 2019, 20:36:41 pm
I was dealing in the actual fact, not twisting and warping things to suite my view.  ;)

I think itís a fact that you meant Ďsuití  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 20:52:39 pm
I think itís a fact that you meant Ďsuití  ;)

No, what I really meant has a H in it but I remained polite.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 02, 2019, 21:02:52 pm
I love the wage figures banded about....

Iíd imagine no one on here has a clue who earns what.
Why would they?
Itís not as if KVV ever ran round the sixfields tavern waving his pay cheque around is it?

If people are as in the know about wages as they are about future signings(Iíve not seen a correct prediction in this regard since Jefferson il tell me mates Lake left the building) then I think we can take any wage info with a pinch of salt!
It was just over £5k a week .
I canít tell you how I know but I do.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 02, 2019, 21:04:16 pm
As always good thoughts - just to add watching the FG game 3 times he lost the ball cheaply and absolutely no attempt to recover it - comparing him with the ďslowĒ Buchanan the ďuselessĒ Hoskins and the ďyoungĒ McWilliams I know who I would want in the trenches with me.

We're not in the trenches. We're on about the football pitch. For comparison, I wonder how many more league goals Hoskins, Buchs and Mcwilliams have amongst them?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 02, 2019, 21:13:36 pm
No, what I really meant has a H in it but I remained polite.

Now now, donít twist it to suit your view  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 02, 2019, 21:19:23 pm
Good luck to the lad. One of the big money boys had to go. Give about three or four of the youngsters pro contracts with the cash.
You could sign all of the 2nd year youth team players for half of the salary paid to KVV.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 02, 2019, 21:31:55 pm
It was just over £5k a week .
I canít tell you how I know but I do.
I also heard from a reliable source £4.5K per week. Either way, we are in the same ball park and we probably agree that getting a player off the wage bill, who has been keen to leave since almost the day he arrived while being the biggest earner, can only be a good thing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: CobblerForever on January 02, 2019, 21:40:04 pm
I also heard from a reliable source £4.5K per week. Either way, we are in the same ball park and we probably agree that getting a player off the wage bill, who has been keen to leave since almost the day he arrived while being the biggest earner, can only be a good thing.

£4.5K per week plus employers nic would equate to a total cost of roughly £5k per week so you may both be right.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 02, 2019, 21:40:30 pm
Rather than guessing what KVV used to earn,how about guessing a few signings instead?
Maybe the same reliable sources will have inside knowledge   ::) ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 02, 2019, 21:42:46 pm
Rather than guessing what KVV used to earn,how about guessing a few signings instead?
Maybe the same reliable sources will have inside knowledge   ::) ;D

I should think the Hallam Hope rumour may well have legs possibly?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 02, 2019, 21:47:49 pm
£4.5K per week plus employers nic would equate to a total cost of roughly £5k per week so you may both be right.
So are Scunny paying him £5K a week ? If not, then surely he would have sat on his contract at NTFC. OK he might have accepted a little bit less to get the move he wanted or did we pay him to leave?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 02, 2019, 21:51:32 pm
So are Scunny paying him £5K a week ? If not, then surely he would have sat on his contract at NTFC. OK he might have accepted a little bit less to get the move he wanted or did we pay him to leave?

I expect that are paying him close to what we were. They have also had a 200k but rejected for a defender today, so they must have money to spend.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 02, 2019, 22:00:04 pm
They are paying exactly the same in salary but we have lost 65% of what we paid for him. There you go.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 02, 2019, 22:00:45 pm
£4.5K per week plus employers nic would equate to a total cost of roughly £5k per week so you may both be right.

Or, given the two unreliable fonts of knowledge stating these facts, they may both be spouting their usual ITK s***e! :)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfc01 on January 02, 2019, 22:05:00 pm
They are paying exactly the same in salary but we have lost 65% of what we paid for him. There you go.

You don't know that at all. You don't know what they are paying him and you have no idea how much they paid for him either so don't pretend you do


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 02, 2019, 22:07:31 pm
I don't know why there are people here who were glad to see KVV go! I get the money angle, I understand it's a neccessity and could be better spent, but we're a much weaker team without him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 02, 2019, 22:23:39 pm
So KVV is off to league one, might as well get rid of Crooks, Turnbull & Pierre at the same time the only other players in the squad capable of playing at a higher level leaving just the detritus.
Maybe in ten years when this manager and squad are long gone we might get lucky and stumble across another Wilder but I wonít hold my breath.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 22:25:38 pm
Now now, donít twist it to suit your view  ;)

I didn't, I warped it a bit !  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 02, 2019, 22:29:08 pm
but I wonít hold my breath.

Finally, someone takes note of my message.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 02, 2019, 22:29:45 pm
We're not in the trenches. We're on about the football pitch. For comparison, I wonder how many more league goals Hoskins, Buchs and Mcwilliams have amongst them?
Hoskins would make it across no-man's land in record breaking time, no probs...it's when he hit upon the German trenches, I'd worry for him!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 02, 2019, 23:01:00 pm
Rather than guessing what KVV used to earn,how about guessing a few signings instead?
Maybe the same reliable sources will have inside knowledge   ::) ;D
Sadly not .
My first hand contact is no longer around since the changes .
No longer ITK on first team matters


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 02, 2019, 23:30:08 pm
Sadly not .
My first hand contact is no longer around since the changes .
No longer ITK on first team matters

How is Melville doing these days!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 03, 2019, 02:46:00 am
So you know this for sure?
KVV was 100% JJOT was 90% to go

I heard this from a pretty reliable source.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Rushdencobbler on January 03, 2019, 07:55:06 am
Lets face it bar a couple of players, nobody has been any good this season. I would only keep Cornell, Pierre, odofin, Williams, Crooks, Turnbull and Foley along with the youngsters as for the rest as I said nobody has covered themselves in glory this season.

As for KVV, people say he is lazy, which may be true but how many times did he chase down and win a lost cause and create something from nothing, he was dangerous when on form and to be honest the only player with any quality he always found a man when he was passing, which most of squad struggle with, he was rarely in the middle where he should be, but I think our lack of quality and form meant he was more useful linking play as nobody else had the quality to do it. He is a loss and I was actually starting to really rate him, but if he was bad egg in the dressing room and didn't want to be here then get rid.


I just hope we lose some of the other big time charlies and replace whoever leaves with players who work hard and can pass a bloody ball.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 03, 2019, 08:18:16 am
Who do you reckon will go today?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Rushdencobbler on January 03, 2019, 08:26:34 am
To be honest the way the team has been chopped and changed in recent weeks I wouldn't rule anybody out to go today or at any point through the window


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 03, 2019, 08:32:45 am
Who do you reckon will go today?

Nobody, you heard it here first 😄


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Monkey on January 03, 2019, 08:38:17 am
Lets face it bar a couple of players, nobody has been any good this season. I would only keep Cornell, Pierre, odofin, Williams, Crooks, Turnbull and Foley along with the youngsters as for the rest as I said nobody has covered themselves in glory this season.

As for KVV, people say he is lazy, which may be true but how many times did he chase down and win a lost cause and create something from nothing, he was dangerous when on form and to be honest the only player with any quality he always found a man when he was passing, which most of squad struggle with, he was rarely in the middle where he should be, but I think our lack of quality and form meant he was more useful linking play as nobody else had the quality to do it. He is a loss and I was actually starting to really rate him, but if he was bad egg in the dressing room and didn't want to be here then get rid.


I just hope we lose some of the other big time charlies and replace whoever leaves with players who work hard and can pass a bloody ball.


This. KvV was not lazy (this season at least), he just knew when to run. Quality player that unfortunately a luxury we cannot afford at this level.
I feel the same about Crooks if he's on the same kind of money. Yes, on his day, he is the best player in the squad, but his availability and performances are not consistent enough to justify at the moment.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 03, 2019, 09:08:24 am
I hope we do not sign Carlisle squad players and KC sticks to his 'energetic style of footballer'. Hallam Hope does not fit that specification!
I would prefer two or three of our youngsters intergrated into the team first and a couple of influencial first team starters coming in.

Then hopefully KC will stick to his best eleven and stop tinkering, plus stamp our style of play on opponents instead of the failed JFH thinking of counteracting the opponents style as the priority!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 03, 2019, 09:19:59 am
At least we ain't got Melville as head of recruitment now...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 09:32:59 am
Rather than guessing what KVV used to earn,how about guessing a few signings instead?
Maybe the same reliable sources will have inside knowledge   ::) ;D
Nothing from me but I did hear we lost quite a bit [£300K] on the KVV transfer. This is unsubstantiated, but if true, the owners really need to take a look at themselves. The obscene amount of money squandered to pay off JFH has already been discussed. I remember KT saying the club was protected from that dreadful appointment and pay-off, but we are now selling our top earners to balance the books. Doesn't look like we have been protected to me. Certainly more transparency regarding the finances would allay these rumours if untrue. 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 09:44:00 am
Thereís a lot of players that donít fall into Curleís ď energetic styleĒ category .
JJOT , Buchanan , Bowditch and Crooks for example ....
KVV was quite energetic I thought , and so it was a bit of a silly comment to make because if he now brings in a lump of a centre forward itís going to be thrown back at him .
KvV didnít want to be here and KT wanted to recoup the money and pay less wages . Thatís the top and bottom of it .
Recruitment is everything . Letís see what Curle is made of .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 09:44:51 am
Nothing from me but I did hear we lost quite a bit [£300K] on the KVV transfer. This is unsubstantiated, but if true, the owners really need to take a look at themselves. The obscene amount of money squandered to pay off JFH has already been discussed. I remember KT saying the club was protected from that dreadful appointment and pay-off, but we are now selling our top earners to balance the books. Doesn't look like we have been protected to me. Certainly more transparency regarding the finances would allay these rumours if untrue. 

i can't do the maths, how did we loose £300k?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 09:54:45 am
i can't do the maths, how did we loose £300k?

 ;D

Love it , keep it up Fernando  8)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 03, 2019, 09:56:01 am
Nothing from me but I did hear we lost quite a bit [£300K] on the KVV transfer. This is unsubstantiated, but if true, the owners really need to take a look at themselves.  
Well Sad Old Git said we lost 65% so that would make the fee we paid around £460,000 !!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 09:56:38 am
;D

Love it , keep it up Fernando  8)

can you? please explain


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 03, 2019, 10:02:01 am
The local Sc***horpe reporter said we paid around £100k for KvV.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Rushdencobbler on January 03, 2019, 10:08:08 am
This. KvV was not lazy (this season at least), he just knew when to run. Quality player that unfortunately a luxury we cannot afford at this level.
I feel the same about Crooks if he's on the same kind of money. Yes, on his day, he is the best player in the squad, but his availability and performances are not consistent enough to justify at the moment.
He was a better class than most of the division, lack of service and quality around him was his biggest downfall, he wasnt lazy this season by any means, although the sceptics would say thats because he was looking for a way out


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 10:10:16 am
i can't do the maths, how did we loose £300k?
Must stress again that it's unsubstantiated but I heard purchase price of £400K and sale price £100K.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest170 on January 03, 2019, 10:10:50 am
Nothing from me but I did hear we lost quite a bit [£300K] on the KVV transfer. This is unsubstantiated, but if true, the owners really need to take a look at themselves. The obscene amount of money squandered to pay off JFH has already been discussed. I remember KT saying the club was protected from that dreadful appointment and pay-off, but we are now selling our top earners to balance the books. Doesn't look like we have been protected to me. Certainly more transparency regarding the finances would allay these rumours if untrue. 
According to the Chron (yes i know but i still trust them more than most on here) we got 'pretty close' to what we bought him for.
We sold a player who didnt want to be here. Not sure it was to balance the books . That would have happened in the summer if it was needed, but will be interesting to see how much is put back into the squad either now or in the summer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 10:12:25 am
He was a better class than most of the division, lack of service and quality around him was his biggest downfall, he wasnt lazy this season by any means, although the sceptics would say thats because he was looking for a way out

Whether it's because he wanted to sell him himself or just being professional is irrelevant. He didn't want to be here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 10:13:06 am
Must stress again that it's unsubstantiated but I heard purchase price of £400K and sale price £100K.

the comms from the club when he signed made no mention of 'record fee' which i believe £400k would have been.  sounds like way too much money for a player who at the time was out of contract in 6 months.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 03, 2019, 10:19:51 am
The Chorn states that he still lived near Scunny and was doing a 2 and half hour commute to training every day, im not surprised he wanted to move back.

KC has stated on the Radio that he is only looking to sign players who is knows well in the this transfer window


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 10:25:01 am
Take out his goals in cup competitions (which nobody really cares about) and youíre a lot closer to half  ;)

The crazy competition is netting us cash with another windfall if we beat Rovers! If any Cobbler player can get 10 goals by Dec18 many of us would be delighted.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 03, 2019, 10:27:03 am
The local Sc***horpe reporter said we paid around £100k for KvV.
Sounds like we were desperate for money.
I wonder how much we lost on the deal?

Beginning to sound like a firesale....

If this is correct itís back to the bad old days that I predicted a couple of weeks back.
I donít think a quality replacement will be coming in for last seasons marquee signing(remember the video)
Iím preparing for untried youth players or free transfer journeymen.

Itís just like the DC days all over again
1) try to acquire land(whether it benefits club or not)
2) find out you cannot get planning consent on land
3) run club on a shoestring
4) do not redevelop the ground.
Same old,same old
The fans deserve a better club from top to bottom.

The only difference is this time we also had the investment shambles that led to quality signings only to find that it ended in acrimony,the fans still donít actually know what occurred suffice to say it ended with both parties claiming they owned the club and threats of legal action.
Iím now guessing(which is all you can do in the absence of any info from the club) that the budget cannot be met by the current board minus investment and having not made a land aquasition the last thing on the clubs mind is spending money on quality footballers.

Of course this is all a hypotheses in the absence of any statements from the club but it does seem just like the bad old days again.

Letís hope Iím wrong and that we can all look forward to a video unveiling of a quality striker later on.
Mind you itíll take some turd polishing if itís a 33 yo journeyman or a young lad who no ones ever heard of!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 10:56:40 am
Must stress again that it's unsubstantiated but I heard purchase price of £400K and sale price £100K.

Mate are you actually thinking about what you are saying?? Like just think about it for 1 minute.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 11:22:55 am
Mate are you actually thinking about what you are saying?? Like just think about it for 1 minute.
Yes it would be a £300K loss but we have similar examples of transfer stupidity in our history. I'm not saying for a moment it is true, hence 'unsubstantiated'. Just relaying what I heard.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 03, 2019, 11:25:15 am
Maybe it isnít a firesale then!!
Serves me right for believing made up figures from people in the know and sources ::)
It all stems from the old undisclosed fees though!!

I do wish people who have absolutely no inside info would stop banding figures about.
I have no idea on wages etc,who is being sold and who is coming in....

Last night I asked posters who are all in the know to post info on who WILL be signing....
Nothing
Not a dickie bird.

These people are the ones who know who earns what!!
Enough said. ::)

By posting unsubstantiated nonsense as fact it is easy for others such as myself to hypothesise about the situation only to find out that the points that the summisation are based upon are pure fantasy.

Please try and keep to the truth...
Now with all the detailed inside knowledge.., ::)
Who WILL be signing??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 03, 2019, 11:27:01 am
As if we paid £400k for KvV!!! Seems most likely we paid £100k for him and probably sold him for about £25k.

£25k for 10 goals.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 03, 2019, 11:27:21 am
Mathius, Who did you hear such a rumour from ?
You quite often come up with unsubstantiated rumours and then talk about them like there facts.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 11:31:59 am
I was told from a very good source we paid £125k for KVV . That would seem about right to me .
Donít forget we have paid £250k in wages for 10 goals which is possibly where ď the lossĒ comes in . There may also be agents fees / hotel accommodation etc


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 03, 2019, 11:34:10 am
Back to the rumour thread...

Would not surprise me if Ishmael Miller rocked up at the PTS...goes without saying hope he don't!  ::)

Oldham Athletic can confirm Ishmael Miller has left the club following his short-term contract.

The 31-year-old forward joined the club in summer and made 18 appearances, scoring four goals for Latics in all competitions.

We would like to thank him for his services and wish him the best of luck for the future.

Thank you, Ishmael.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 03, 2019, 11:35:42 am
Crooks to Wigan to replace Max Power?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 03, 2019, 11:36:48 am
Well this thread has plenty of rumour - just none of it about any transfers...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 11:39:01 am
Mate are you actually thinking about what you are saying?? Like just think about it for 1 minute.

What he says - Have a think about it!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 03, 2019, 11:40:41 am
Whilst both KvV and Crooks are unarguably talented, Crooks is another who doesn't really look like he's up for L2

I guess you pays your money and takes your choice - do you want a player who plays like a world beater in 25% of games, crap in 50% and is injured / suspended the other quarter - or one who is going to roll their sleeves up, dig in and give you 100% all the time?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 11:42:59 am
I was told from a very good source we paid £125k for KVV . That would seem about right to me .
Donít forget we have paid £250k in wages for 10 goals which is possibly where ď the lossĒ comes in . There may also be agents fees / hotel accommodation etc

100K paid and 100k recouped is what I hear - wages on the other hand at 5K a week he has cost us a fair whack during his time here


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 11:52:55 am
100K paid and 100k recouped is what I hear - wages on the other hand at 5K a week he has cost us a fair whack during his time here
In violent agreement , just about !
Crooks , Turnbull and Taylor the other big earners .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 03, 2019, 11:53:11 am
He didn't cost 400k  ;D and he wasn't on 5k a week  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 12:14:09 pm
Mathius, Who did you hear such a rumour from ?
You quite often come up with unsubstantiated rumours and then talk about them like there facts.
The word 'unsubstantiated' is the clue.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 03, 2019, 12:22:10 pm
Whilst both KvV and Crooks are unarguably talented, Crooks is another who doesn't really look like he's up for L2

I guess you pays your money and takes your choice - do you want a player who plays like a world beater in 25% of games, crap in 50% and is injured / suspended the other quarter - or one who is going to roll their sleeves up, dig in and give you 100% all the time?

I think the frustrations with Crooks are more likely to do with the burden placed upon him. He dropped so deep against MK because none of our midfield or wingbacks looked comfortable taking the ball and carrying it or playing a clever pass. He is then also expected to create further afield, that would be frustrating for anyone. This is particularly where a fit on form JJOT is a huge miss.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 03, 2019, 12:24:48 pm
Mathius, who did you hear this from ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 03, 2019, 12:28:47 pm
I think the frustrations with Crooks are more likely to do with the burden placed upon him. He dropped so deep against MK because none of our midfield or wingbacks looked comfortable taking the ball and carrying it or playing a clever pass. He is then also expected to create further afield, that would be frustrating for anyone. This is particularly where a fit on form JJOT is a huge miss.

Crooks was clearly told by KC to drop that deep so he was only following orders. Regarding jjot with all of his recent injuries Iím wondering if heíll ever be the same again.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 12:40:28 pm
In violent agreement , just about !
Crooks , Turnbull and Taylor the other big earners .
Turnbull's the only one I would really want to keep. Could be some more savings to be made in this window.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 12:43:26 pm
The word 'unsubstantiated' is the clue.

How about you use common sense and don't spout rubbish on here you know is 'unsubstantiated' and which clearly isn't true. Then people might believe you when you do have something good/actually 'in the know' to say. Jesus


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 12:51:04 pm
How about you use common sense and don't spout rubbish on here you know is 'unsubstantiated' and which clearly isn't true. Then people might believe you when you do have something good/actually 'in the know' to say. Jesus
Some fans are interested in speculation. I am for one. Don't press your own views on everyone else.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 03, 2019, 12:58:22 pm
few more to leave i would think - cost cutting.

then ship out the dead wood

couple of hardened league 2 pros

stick the kids in

win the league next year

sell the kids for big bucks

get relegated



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 13:01:14 pm
Some fans are interested in speculation. I am for one. Don't press your own views on everyone else.

I don't think anybody is interested in clearly false speculation. But please, somebody correct me if they are? Hands up? No? Ok.

Don't insult people with your 'pressing' line.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 13:02:05 pm
The word 'unsubstantiated' is the clue.

Why post such outrageous untrue facts?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 13:22:46 pm
Lets start a proper thread for all our January dealings in the latest transfer window.

All rumours welcome, even the ridiculous ones  ;D
For those struggling to remember how this thread was set out, please refer to the above and pay particular attention to the sentence highlighted in red. Also, refer to the title and the word 'Rumours' contained within.

Teacher's Pet can probably clarify but the tone suggests this thread is supposed to be a bit of fun. Of course it wasn't my intention to cause such great distress and I can only offer my sincerest apology to Parklands who seems so upset. I will think twice before forwarding a rumour on a rumour thread in future.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 13:25:53 pm
Why post such outrageous untrue facts?
Can a fact be untrue?  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfclad on January 03, 2019, 13:27:25 pm
Heard we got £600k for Van Veen so allís good


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: spqr on January 03, 2019, 13:31:18 pm
Heard we got £600k for Van Veen so allís good

I thought it was more.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 14:14:06 pm
For those struggling to remember how this thread was set out, please refer to the above and pay particular attention to the sentence highlighted in red. Also, refer to the title and the word 'Rumours' contained within.

Teacher's Pet can probably clarify but the tone suggests this thread is supposed to be a bit of fun. Of course it wasn't my intention to cause such great distress and I can only offer my sincerest apology to Parklands who seems so upset. I will think twice before forwarding a rumour on a rumour thread in future.
I think your posts are pretty informative Mathius and I think you may have similar sources to myself because often you are aware of things I have also been told first hand .
Some on here just donít like it when others have knowledge they are unaware of . Quite clearly you wonít reveal your sources and neither will I but the information is always interesting .
Maybe people should remember that I think both you and I said that KVV did not want to be here as soon as he joined and that he wouldnít move from Doncaster . I also said Austin would have little to do with him last season because he wasnít seen to be committed to the cause.
All these things were true. G




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 03, 2019, 14:23:39 pm
Heard we got £600k for Van Veen so allís good
I find this hilarious, to think that Scunny would pay 600k for a player as a league 1 club..do they have a rich benefactor that loves throwing the cash around?? I can't believe this just as much as I cant believe that we paid £400k for him last January. My guess and its just that is its nearer to us buying him for £200k tops and selling him for around the same. 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 14:25:49 pm
I find this hilarious, to think that Scunny would pay 600k for a player as a league 1 club..do they have a rich benefactor that loves throwing the cash around?? I can't believe this just as much as I cant believe that we paid £400k for him last January. My guess and its just that is its nearer to us buying him for £200k tops and selling him for around the same. 


he is taking the pi$$


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 14:32:18 pm

he is taking the pi$$
Maybe he should reveal where the pi$$ came from!  8)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 03, 2019, 14:34:34 pm

he is taking the pi$$

OMG.

Can't believe someone thought it was serious!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 03, 2019, 14:36:16 pm
We're lining up Mourinho.

He's talking to Aaron Ramsey - out of contract and available on a free in the summer.

Jus' speculatin'.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 14:44:03 pm
Why post such outrageous untrue facts information!

OK Coolie?  Excuse bad grammar 8)




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 03, 2019, 14:46:12 pm
I wonder if we will have a big video unveiling today??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: claretparrot on January 03, 2019, 14:52:24 pm
I think your posts are pretty informative Mathius and I think you may have similar sources to myself because often you are aware of things I have also been told first hand .

Yeah, and nine times out of ten you and/or your 'sources' turn out to have been talking utter garbage. Even with KVV gone, am I right in saying we still haven't reached the number of players you so confidently told us all would be leaving in the summer?

Also, he 'didn't want to be here as soon as he joined'? Do you realise what a ridiculous statement that is?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 03, 2019, 14:53:52 pm
I wonder if we will have a big video unveiling today??

Probably a betamax copy of Gone with the wind.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 14:57:06 pm
Yeah, and nine times out of ten you and/or your 'sources' turn out to have been talking utter garbage. Even with KVV gone, am I right in saying we still haven't reached the number of players you so confidently told us all would be leaving in the summer?

Also, he 'didn't want to be here as soon as he joined'? Do you realise what a ridiculous statement that is?

I agree that he never wanted to come here in the first place!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 03, 2019, 15:02:30 pm
Probably a betamax copy of Gone with the wind.
;D
Maybe we havenít got anyone lined up to replace KVV after all :(


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2019, 15:05:35 pm
FB rumour circulating that we are taking Holmes and Akinfenwa on loan!!

Heehee......where does this stuff come from?

However....thinking about it, maybe KT is trying to win over the wavering fans and he thinks that bringing back our old "heroes" will appease the peasants!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 15:08:03 pm
FB rumour circulating that we are taking Holmes and Akinfenwa on loan!!

Heehee......where does this stuff come from?

However....thinking about it, maybe KT is trying to win over the wavering fans and he thinks that bringing back our old "heroes" will appease the peasants!!

a fit Ricky Holmes would be wonderful


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 03, 2019, 15:13:13 pm
Iím not too sure that bayo fits into the quick, energetic style of play that KC is alluding to - he would cause carnage though! Ricky Holmes is a nice idea but heís got a bad back injury that looks like ending his loan at Oxford early.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 03, 2019, 15:13:27 pm
a fit Ricky Holmes would be wonderful
What about an unfit and regularly injured Holmes??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2019, 15:13:37 pm
a fit Ricky Holmes would be wonderful

Trouble is he isn't fit.

Oxford Mail reports he has been managing a long standing condition throughtout his career.

His last three apearances for Oxford were all substitute appearances....he came on for 10 minutes against Peterborough, 5 minutes against Blackpool and then half an hour against Tottenhams U23's in the Checkatrade.
He hasn't featured at all since that game on December 18th.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 03, 2019, 15:19:31 pm
This made me chuckle...if only he had been released in the Summer!

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/6-players-that-should-be-on-notts-countys-transfer-radar/4/ (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/6-players-that-should-be-on-notts-countys-transfer-radar/4/)

Yaser Kasim

It is hard to argue that Notts Countyís midfield could do with an added spark as well.

Free agent Yaser Kasim could well be the man to add that after being released by Northampton Town in the summer.

His attitude has been questioned but there is no doubting the quality he is capable of.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Rushdencobbler on January 03, 2019, 15:23:11 pm
I'm sure we will end up with a load of ex Carlisle and Mansfield players who were there when KC was, always happens.

Crooks to Wigan was the latest one.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 15:23:34 pm
What about an unfit and regularly injured Holmes??

no thanks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 15:27:24 pm
Yeah, and nine times out of ten you and/or your 'sources' turn out to have been talking utter garbage. Even with KVV gone, am I right in saying we still haven't reached the number of players you so confidently told us all would be leaving in the summer?

Also, he 'didn't want to be here as soon as he joined'? Do you realise what a ridiculous statement that is?
Hey big keyboard warrior - nice to here you chirping .
For the umpteenth time - pay attention this time - I said players wanted to leave in the summer , not that they necessarily would due to wage demands / fees / KT .
In terms of KVV never wanting to join - I would hazard a stab in the dark that now he has returned to his former club on the very first day of the transfer window for the same wages as being justification of that statement .
I wonít be commenting any further on this !


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: claretparrot on January 03, 2019, 15:36:11 pm
Hey big keyboard warrior - nice to here you chirping .
For the umpteenth time - pay attention this time - I said players wanted to leave in the summer , not that they necessarily would due to wage demands / fees / KT .
In terms of KVV never wanting to join - I would hazard a stab in the dark that now he has returned to his former club on the very first day of the transfer window for the same wages as being justification of that statement .
I wonít be commenting any further on this !

Who marched him down here in handcuffs!? Regardless of his actual motive for signing, whether it be cash or whatever else, he didn't have to if he didn't want to. Taking an opportunity to leave now that we've been relegated and are showing no signs of going back up any time soon make perfect sense to me, and don't indicate for a second that he never wanted to come here in the first place.

I can't be bothered to wade through previous posts to find the quotes, but you told us all in no uncertain terms that a defined number of players would be leaving by the end of the summer window.

As for your keyboard warrior comment, taking issue with the tripe that you and others regularly present as fact on here doesn't really fall into that category (unless I've completely misunderstood the definition). I'd say that your response above is more personal than I've ever been with you... I haven't written anything that I wouldn't happily say to you over a pint.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 15:38:21 pm
I think your posts are pretty informative Mathius and I think you may have similar sources to myself because often you are aware of things I have also been told first hand .
Some on here just donít like it when others have knowledge they are unaware of . Quite clearly you wonít reveal your sources and neither will I but the information is always interesting .
Maybe people should remember that I think both you and I said that KVV did not want to be here as soon as he joined and that he wouldnít move from Doncaster . I also said Austin would have little to do with him last season because he wasnít seen to be committed to the cause.
All these things were true. G



Spot on, Boot and Shoe. Maybe it was the driving as he's now saying but he made it clear he wasn't happy soon after the move. He even told fans at the end of season dinner that he wanted to move on. All credit to him for being professional in his performances so far this season. i wish him well for the future.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 15:45:14 pm
Spot on, Boot and Shoe. Maybe it was the driving as he's now saying but he made it clear he wasn't happy soon after the move. He even told fans at the end of season dinner that he wanted to move on. All credit to him for being professional in his performances so far this season. i wish him well for the future.
Well said mate


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 15:50:52 pm
Well its not obvious that you two clearly know each other  ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2019, 16:04:27 pm
Well its not obvious that you two clearly know each other  ::)
Just to be clear - I know no one on here


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 16:06:14 pm
Well its not obvious that you two clearly know each other  ::)
There you are, Parklands. Thought you might have needed a lie down after getting so upset earlier.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 03, 2019, 16:11:46 pm
Just to be clear - I know no one on here

You might do. You just don't know it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: NTFC Nut on January 03, 2019, 16:13:32 pm
Was told today that it's Gillingham who want O'Toole. Whether that's reliable intel or not, I've no idea.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 03, 2019, 16:23:18 pm
O Toole has been nursing an injury most of the season.

It has got progressively worse hence why he hasnt been available for selection the last few weeks. He is still not in full training. Not sure he would pass a fitness test.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 16:37:06 pm
a fit Ricky Holmes would be wonderful
Almost an oxymoron! The fact that he is never fit points towards his career sliding to an unfortunate retirement.
Akinfenwa equally suited to KC's supposed wish for a high tempo style!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 03, 2019, 16:39:56 pm
The one good thing to come out of KvV transfer is that I won't have to listen to Tim Oglethorpe calling him Von Vain anymore ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 16:40:00 pm
Almost an oxymoron! The fact that he is never fit points towards his career sliding to an unfortunate retirement.
Akinfenwa equally suited to KC's supposed wish for a high tempo style!  ;D

as i said a FIT Ricky would be wonderful, it would seem that him being fit is unlikely.  Who he has played for previously makes no odds to me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 16:42:18 pm
What about an unfit and regularly injured Holmes??
I'd take a really good Hoskins!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 16:43:18 pm
O Toole has been nursing an injury most of the season.

It has got progressively worse hence why he hasnt been available for selection the last few weeks. He is still not in full training. Not sure he would pass a fitness test.

So we are told  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 03, 2019, 16:44:56 pm
JJOT should have left in the summer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 16:45:02 pm
as i said a FIT Ricky would be wonderful, it would seem that him being fit is unlikely.  Who he has played for previously makes no odds to me.
Who he has played for has no bearing whatsoever in my response!
As my following post, wishing for a fit Holmes is like wishing for a goal poaching Hoskins!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 03, 2019, 16:49:19 pm
Who he has played for has no bearing whatsoever in my response!
As my following post, wishing for a fit Holmes is like wishing for a goal poaching Hoskins!

fair enough i miss read it. 
i will always wish for the return of a fit Ricky, unlikely to ever happen though


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 16:50:16 pm
You might do. You just don't know it.

They might have been feeding each other with the ITK rumours without knowing it... ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 16:54:45 pm
They might have been feeding each other with the ITK rumours without knowing it... ;D
We might be the same person.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 03, 2019, 17:26:50 pm
The one good thing to come out of KvV transfer is that I won't have to listen to Tim Oglethorpe calling him Von Vain anymore ;D

Yes, he wouldn't be swayed into thinking it was anything different. It made me smile when Gareth Willsher was helping with the commentary and called him van Veen but seconds later TO called him Von Vain again  ::) Surely, the head of media at the Cobblers would know the correct way to say his name.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Trickymicky on January 03, 2019, 17:34:53 pm
Controversial but could we pay someone to take Hoskins 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Lukey on January 03, 2019, 17:48:33 pm
Controversial but could we pay someone to take Hoskins 

What like an escort? ;)

Someone told me we were interested in Alex Revell again, hopefully we will see new faces and not the return of old faces.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2019, 17:51:46 pm
The one good thing to come out of KvV transfer is that I won't have to listen to Tim Oglethorpe calling him Von Vain anymore ;D
Oglethorpe, bless him he's a Cobbler through and through but the guy talks such bollox.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 03, 2019, 18:25:15 pm
He is actually a Kettering fan


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 03, 2019, 18:31:21 pm
Controversial but could we pay someone to take Hoskins 

No one would be even that stupid 😆


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 03, 2019, 18:38:23 pm
Well its not obvious that you two clearly know each other  ::)

I think it's more likely that Mathius and Boot and Shoe are the same person. FACT! ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 03, 2019, 18:43:49 pm
No one would be even that stupid 😆

I don't know, I reckon Chenecks would take a punt on him! ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 19:09:43 pm
I don't know, I reckon Chenecks would take a punt on him! ;D
If he went to AFC Mansfield, can you imagine the assists/goals stats in a partnership with Laciofano!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 03, 2019, 19:22:58 pm
If he went to AFC Mansfield, can you imagine the assists/goals stats in a partnership with Laciofano!  ;D

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 03, 2019, 19:51:32 pm
Im going to simplify things here for those who don't understand football, financially.

*These figures are made up. But *probably not far off of the mark.

Current wage bill. Circa 2.5million. Down from over 3million back end of last season. When we were in league1. We had 'Chinese investment  ;D'. We were g@mbling to stay up. We were 'feeding' a demanding high profile manager. We had more income. In no particular order.

Next seasons wage bill. Circa 1.6million. Maybe a bit more, who knows.

KVV - 200K.
Taylor - 150k
Crookes - 200k.
Turnbull - 150k.

Total 700k.

Keep all four, you've got around 900k to share around 16 other players. Average wage for each of those players would be circa 55k. Pretty much bang on the average player earns in league2. BUT. You've got a number of other players that are already on more than that who are already contracted, eg Pierre. So the average new player is gonna be earning less than a grand a week...

You then, as the manager, look at those 4 big earners. Are they 'performing'? Are they justifying their wage? Do they have a re-sell potential value if they improve?

Other than Turnbull, they have been inconsistent at best, sh1te a lot of the time at worst. Do you sell them in order to be able to re-proportion the budget more evenly across the squad, thus giving yourself and your team a better overall chance of success? Or do you keep them, and have an even more weaker squad next season than this because you've got to work with a league2 budget, not a hefty league1 club that turns over 50% more than NTFC?

I will get accused of making the numbers up etc. By the usual suspects. To counter that, I will 100% confirm that these are my numbers, my assumptions etc. I doubt Crookes, Taylor or KVV will be here come August. Clearly KT g@mbled on a good start to the season, he told me that himself right at the start of it. He didn't use the word g@mble but that was implied. It hasn't worked, we are 16th in the league, we re-group financially and move on. Makes total sense.

The sooner we can move on Crookes, the sooner we can move on Taylor...and get rid of the other other 'not cheap dross' like Bowditch, Powell, Waters and Kasim (!) the sooner KC can remould the squad. Until then his hands are tied to a large degree.

I do hope that he brings in 2 or 3 players with a view to next season to plug the gaps (striker now, winger, maybe a wingback) if he can. And bloods the youth. Realistically we need 15-18 points to make sure we stay up from 19 games remaining. After the poor run we've endured, we cannot now assume we are *safe*. So a financial balancing act still needs to be in place. Once our status is all but confirmed, then we can try out these great prospects we have. And see if there are any pieces already at the club that Kieth can add to next seasons jigsaw puzzle!






Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 03, 2019, 20:02:36 pm
Crooks to Wigan..confirmed


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2019, 20:11:28 pm
Crooks to Wigan..confirmed

Where?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 03, 2019, 20:46:00 pm
Where?

Wigan, it's up near Manchester/Liverpool I beleive   ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 03, 2019, 21:01:04 pm
Garth Crooks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 21:08:06 pm
Crooks to Wigan..confirmed

How much


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 03, 2019, 21:11:29 pm
I know it's only a bit of fun but those figures from Drilling are nowhere near accurate for Crooks - halve them and you're nearer the mark.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 03, 2019, 21:13:15 pm
I think it's more likely that Mathius and Boot and Shoe are the same person. FACT! ;)
I did suggest it. Who said that?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 03, 2019, 21:18:47 pm
Confirmed - Sunderland back in for Kasim


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 03, 2019, 21:28:43 pm
Confirmed - Sunderland back in for Kasim
How much will that cost us?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 03, 2019, 21:46:40 pm
How much will that cost us?
Sorry, this now appears to be an unsubstantiated confirmation


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 03, 2019, 21:48:23 pm
We all thought he had left months ago.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 03, 2019, 22:33:10 pm
The one good thing to come out of KvV transfer is that I won't have to listen to Tim Oglethorpe calling him Von Vain anymore ;D
The other good thing is I will save a few quid by not betting on him scoring a hatrick every week  ???
Having said that, it may be worth a punt on him doing so back at Scunny?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2019, 22:45:02 pm
The other good thing is I will save a few quid by not betting on him scoring a hatrick every week  ???
Having said that, it may be worth a punt on him doing so back at Scunny?!

I will miss vV to me one of few quality fowards(some say only). I too put a total of £30.00 at various home games as I truly believe we would hammer a hat trick. Your suggestion of a hat trick at Sc***horpe is worth a punt. What are the odds of us resigning him?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 04, 2019, 08:50:31 am
going by curles interview in the chron................big earners out - journeymen in


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: defender on January 04, 2019, 08:52:24 am
Who he has played for has no bearing whatsoever in my response!
As my following post, wishing for a fit Holmes is like wishing for a goal poaching Hoskins!
 

           SORRY YOU ARE WRONG ON THIS.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 04, 2019, 09:07:00 am
going by curles interview in the chron................big earners out - journeymen in


you might think that, as do i, but come on, the interview states no such thing.   

the direct quotes from curly amount to about 1 short paragraph, with the underlying message being he will bring in players who will improve the team, have the right personality, character and ability.  not sure anyone could argue with that soundbite.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 04, 2019, 09:42:39 am
Finally!!!  ;D

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/yaser_kasim_contract_cancelled/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/yaser_kasim_contract_cancelled/)

YASER KASIM LEAVES NORTHAMPTON TOWN

Northampton Town Football Club can confirm that midfielder Yaser Kasim has left the club after his contract was cancelled by mutual consent.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 10:13:08 am
Finally!!!  ;D

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/yaser_kasim_contract_cancelled/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/yaser_kasim_contract_cancelled/)

YASER KASIM LEAVES NORTHAMPTON TOWN

Northampton Town Football Club can confirm that midfielder Yaser Kasim has left the club after his contract was cancelled by mutual consent.
That's another £3K a week saved.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 04, 2019, 10:26:26 am
We are really in the do do first our top scorer leaves and then our only current International player goes, where will it end ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Monkey on January 04, 2019, 10:33:34 am
Bit of a brief message. No thanks for his contribution or well wishes???


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 04, 2019, 10:41:44 am
Two down, plenty more to go hopefully...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 04, 2019, 10:42:10 am
Not really old yasers fault if the board decided to give him a daft contract.
No one else wanted him and you canít blame him for picking up his wages.
Anyway Iím looking forward to seeing which free transfers and youth loans we bring in to replace the quality players who have exited.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 04, 2019, 11:10:45 am
all paid for with the KVV transfer money.
So let's see what we've saved
Kassim      3k per week
Van  Veen  5k per week
Ward         1k per week
                ----------------
                 9k saved per week....so far.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 04, 2019, 11:10:55 am
Not really old yasers fault if the board decided to give him a daft contract.
No one else wanted him and you canít blame him for picking up his wages.
Anyway Iím looking forward to seeing which free transfers and youth loans we bring in to replace the quality players who have exited.

Agree KVV had quality but didn't show enough of it and desperately wanted to leave (big L1 wages for a bang average L2 team is not sustainable)

Kasim quality? You avin' a laugh....so you think we should have kept him then?
Again someone on a decent wage who has obviously shown complete lack of interest in trying to get into the first team and just sat on his big pay packet like he did at Swindon (who's fans did warn us yet JED found it acceptable to give him a two year contract  ::))


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 04, 2019, 11:18:47 am
The Kasim situation was really bizarre. I know he came in pre Chinese money but he was really highly rated for a period not long before joining us. Considering the number of managers we have got through since has has been here the fact that he has literally been an outcast throughout his time here shows something was majorly off. Yet i remember him playing away at QPR and thinking he looked really composed on the ball and looking forward to seeing what he would do moving forward.

That being said it seems like Curle is clearing any apparent bad eggs and is clearing the decks. Think thats well overdue and would happily see a few more on their way.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: claretarmy on January 04, 2019, 11:37:20 am
I know these wages aren't accurate information but didn't KT say that the wages of the players would have been trimmed because of being relegated to League Two. I'm assuming every contract would be different, but you'd think a lower league club would always have this in the contract.

Only 6 appearances for Kasim - hope he wasn't on 3k a week!!

I don't know if anyone else see this, but on Sky Sports News on New Years Eve, Carlisle announced that two of their players (Mike Jones was one) wanted to be loaned out. Didn't someone mention Jones on the forum last week?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 11:47:06 am
I know these wages aren't accurate information but didn't KT say that the wages of the players would have been trimmed because of being relegated to League Two. I'm assuming every contract would be different, but you'd think a lower league club would always have this in the contract.

Only 6 appearances for Kasim - hope he wasn't on 3k a week!!

I don't know if anyone else see this, but on Sky Sports News on New Years Eve, Carlisle announced that two of their players (Mike Jones was one) wanted to be loaned out. Didn't someone mention Jones on the forum last week?

Yes, the guy from Carlisle said about mike Jones and Ritchie Bennett being potentially available on loan - he said they are both decent players (and were KC players) but you can imagine the reaction if we replace VV and crooks with players who canít even get into Carlisleís side.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 04, 2019, 11:52:36 am
Bennett played for Northwich when we had that crazy comeback in the FA cup a few years back ( I wonder what happened to their midfielder summerskill or whatever his name was). Bennett looked a handful in that game but Carlisle fans have consistently slated him since he signed for them. May be that league football is a step too far for him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 04, 2019, 11:58:55 am
 

           SORRY YOU ARE WRONG ON THIS.
Oh really? Please do elaborate!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 04, 2019, 12:01:27 pm
going by curles interview in the chron................big earners out - journeymen in

Big earners or Big ears? Bunney could be back!  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 04, 2019, 12:05:34 pm
Bit of a brief message. No thanks for his contribution or well wishes???


Surprised the message was as long as it was to be honest.

Really would have been taking the p**s for them to end it with the usual "We thank him for his efforts" etc

Moving on.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 04, 2019, 12:13:53 pm
all paid for with the KVV transfer money.
So let's see what we've saved
Kassim      3k per week
Van  Veen  5k per week
Ward         1k per week
                ----------------
                 9k saved per week....so far.
I'll expand on your statement; 9K 'saved'? .....................surely 9K 'less lost'' per week........so far



UNLESS YOU USE BEDS FIGURES!!!!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 12:17:05 pm
Not really old yasers fault if the board decided to give him a daft contract.
No one else wanted him and you canít blame him for picking up his wages.
Anyway Iím looking forward to seeing which free transfers and youth loans we bring in to replace the quality players who have exited.

Got to agree with shoey on the first couple of lines - itís not kasimís fault that he was offered a ridiculous 2 year contract, itís JE and KTís fault. Itís a similar scenario to jack rodwell at Sunderland - the fans are rightly frustrated that the player is sitting out a lucrative contract but whatís the player supposed to do - just tear up the contract and walk away?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 04, 2019, 14:53:40 pm
I know these wages aren't accurate information but didn't KT say that the wages of the players would have been trimmed because of being relegated to League Two. I'm assuming every contract would be different, but you'd think a lower league club would always have this in the contract.


Yeah, £5k is ridiculous. Best ignoring it and letting people get mad about imaginary wages.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Athena on January 04, 2019, 14:58:22 pm
I cannot believe Kasim just agreed to cancel his contract and walked from the club - why should he? I find it difficult to accept therefore that we must have made a lot of immediate savings on this development.  Some saving possibly, but I've no doubt he and the club have agreed some sort of financial settlement and/or agreement up to the time his original contract ran out (think there is a legal term for such an agreement but I'm not clever enough to recall it at present). I'm sure it would also include terms not to speak about events etc. and so this whole unfortunate saga may have to remain generally unknown.  It matters not and in any case, as others have posted before me, lets move on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 04, 2019, 15:04:51 pm
I cannot believe Kasim just agreed to cancel his contract and walked from the club - why should he? I find it difficult to accept therefore that we must have made a lot of immediate savings on this development.  Some saving possibly, but I've no doubt he and the club have agreed some sort of financial settlement and/or agreement up to the time his original contract ran out (think there is a legal term for such an agreement but I'm not clever enough to recall it at present). I'm sure it would also include terms not to speak about events etc. and so this whole unfortunate saga may have to remain generally unknown.  It matters not and in any case, as others have posted before me, lets move on.

One or two rumour Notts County are after signing him


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 04, 2019, 15:07:21 pm
Yes, the guy from Carlisle said about mike Jones and Ritchie Bennett being potentially available on loan - he said they are both decent players (and were KC players) but you can imagine the reaction if we replace VV and crooks with players who canít even get into Carlisleís side.

LOL.

I guess any players likely to come to us from Carlisle will not complete their moves until 14 January, at the earliest.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 04, 2019, 15:15:29 pm
I should think the fact we are allowing to Joey out for another month suggests we have a forward lined up to come in


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 15:23:21 pm
all paid for with the KVV transfer money.
So let's see what we've saved
Kassim      3k per week
Van  Veen  5k per week
Ward         1k per week
                ----------------
                 9k saved per week....so far.
Don't forget Leon Barnet.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 15:25:01 pm
LOL.

I guess any players likely to come to us from Carlisle will not complete their moves until 14 January, at the earliest.

I must admit that did occur to me as well - hopefully we wonít be relying on Carlisle castoffs!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wingman on January 04, 2019, 15:25:11 pm
I should think the fact we are allowing to Joey out for another month suggests we have a forward lined up to come in

Or it could mean the KC doesnt see him featuring in the 1st team soon.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: FezNTFC on January 04, 2019, 15:26:58 pm
Don't forget Leon Barnet.
We're honouring his contract aren't we?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2019, 15:28:33 pm
Or it could mean the KC doesnt see him featuring in the 1st team soon.

Pretty likely that assumption!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 15:48:53 pm
We're honouring his contract aren't we?
Not sure if that's the case or insurance covers it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 04, 2019, 16:26:30 pm
Not sure if that's the case or insurance covers it.

Chron stated that we were paying his contract until its expiry.

I cant see us signing a striker, unless someone else leaves.
We have:
Williams
Morias
Hoskins
Waters
Plus youth players


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 16:48:50 pm
Chron stated that we were paying his contract until its expiry.

I cant see us signing a striker, unless someone else leaves.
We have:
Williams
Morias
Hoskins
Waters
Plus youth players

Goals galore!

Iíd be amazed if the club werenít getting some kind of insurance payout as his career has been ended due to a medical condition.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 04, 2019, 17:03:44 pm
Iíd be amazed if the club werenít getting some kind of insurance payout as his career has been ended due to a medical condition.
Rumour has it we only had him covered with "3rd party ,fire and theft"  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 04, 2019, 17:05:52 pm
Williams is Scoring at the Min and I think morias could score quite a few given a decent run in the side.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 04, 2019, 17:06:04 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46758966

John Sheridan has left Carlisle Utd which seems a very strange move considering there league position.  

Maybe the owner has agreed to sell aload of there players to us and Sheridan got the hump and left.  :P

time will tell.

 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 17:06:21 pm
Rumour has it we only had him covered with "3rd party ,fire and theft"  ;D

Very good 😄! Seriously though it wouldnít surprise you in the slightest if the club had cocked up the insurance side of things.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2019, 17:18:24 pm
Two renowned posters came onto say:

a) Crooks gone to Wigan & b)

JJOT gone to Gillingham!

So what has happened as both fansites have recorded nil info.....very disappointing.




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 04, 2019, 17:19:34 pm
Waters back to Cambridge?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 04, 2019, 17:19:46 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46758966

John Sheridan has left Carlisle Utd which seems a very strange move considering there league position.  

Maybe the owner has agreed to sell aload of there players to us and Sheridan got the hump and left.  :P

time will tell.

 
Going to Chesterfield.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 04, 2019, 17:20:19 pm
I think Waters will stay until we have signed a striker


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobbler_rob on January 04, 2019, 17:20:59 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46758966

John Sheridan has left Carlisle Utd which seems a very strange move considering there league position.  

Maybe the owner has agreed to sell aload of there players to us and Sheridan got the hump and left.  :P

time will tell.

 

I know Sheridan was surprised how tight things were there financially after he joined in the summer, and if rumours are true they need to cut costs further now. Suspect heís jumped ship for more money before they lose some of their best players (possibly to us!)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 04, 2019, 17:31:23 pm
I would imagine Kasim is a legal situation which is why there is a radio silence about the circumstances .
I wonít speculate but i bet itís a compromise deal.
If he gets another contract I will be amazed



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2019, 17:38:08 pm
Going to Chesterfield.

So KC to Carlisle U!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 04, 2019, 17:39:22 pm
So KC to Carlisle U!

Then we can get Jimmy back  :)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Trickymicky on January 04, 2019, 17:43:04 pm
What like an escort? ;)

Someone told me we were interested in Alex Revell again, hopefully we will see new faces and not the return of old faces.

If he was an escort he would still miss from close range  :D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 04, 2019, 17:49:17 pm
Then we can get Jimmy back  :)
With DA as his assistant.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 04, 2019, 18:10:21 pm
With DA as his assistant.

Yes, that would shift a few of "that lot in there" quickly ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 04, 2019, 18:20:06 pm
Waters back to Cambridge?

If any team came in for Waters they would be foolish to turn it down. It simply hasn't worked out for him here, whatever the reason, and even with VV moving on I don't see him as being a first team starter.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 04, 2019, 19:21:59 pm
I know Sheridan was surprised how tight things were there financially after he joined in the summer, and if rumours are true they need to cut costs further now. Suspect heís jumped ship for more money before they lose some of their best players (possibly to us!)

What? And we aren't cutting costs too?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 04, 2019, 20:50:00 pm
Remember DA saying club agreed free with Port Vale for Waters in the Summer (that's why he didn't go on the trip abroad) but Billy turned down the deal...perhaps Vale will come in again or even Cheltenham.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2019, 20:56:01 pm
Let us just be thankful that Rudolph van Reluctant has now left the building. Hopefully Garth will go soon now that the path is clear. The poison that sweeps the dressing-room (ooh err missus) will soon be cast into the ether and the honest players can prosper. There are some real believers in there and they need to be set free.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 04, 2019, 20:59:48 pm
Dsomebody as been drinking.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2019, 21:02:27 pm
The piano has been drinking, not me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: northycobbler on January 04, 2019, 21:11:13 pm
So...this could be total bull but...

Derek asamoah (yes the asamoah who out stepoverred Ronaldo when Utd visit sixfields many moons ago) posted on his Instagram story that he was at Moulton earlier today and then has also posted he's in a hotel room in northampton.

Were him and curle both at Carlisle at the same time?

I could be putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 but thought I'd report what I saw!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 04, 2019, 21:17:11 pm
So...this could be total bull but...

Derek asamoah (yes the asamoah who out stepoverred Ronaldo when Utd visit sixfields many moons ago) posted on his Instagram story that he was at Moulton earlier today and then has also posted he's in a hotel room in northampton.

Were him and curle both at Carlisle at the same time?

I could be putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 but thought I'd report what I saw!!
You been watching an episode of Endeavour?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: northycobbler on January 04, 2019, 21:23:02 pm
I'll be honest...I have no idea what endeavour is! Ha

Like I said, I know it could be a massive coincidence but thought it was strange how he was putting that he was at Moulton and then a hotel in northampton on his Instagram story. To my knowledge he doesn't live over this way and I can't think of any reason why he'd be at Moulton.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2019, 21:26:20 pm
The piano has been drinking, not me.

 ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOXWXrKFDjc


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 04, 2019, 21:28:03 pm
Since Iím no longer ITK .....
is it true we have bid for Bayo or is it pure speculation?
Only ITK people need to reply


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2019, 21:33:45 pm
No it is not true. END OF.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 21:34:03 pm
I would imagine Kasim is a legal situation which is why there is a radio silence about the circumstances .
I wonít speculate but i bet itís a compromise deal.
If he gets another contract I will be amazed


Something along the lines of 'go and we'll say it's by mutual consent, or we'll sack you and the reasons for it will make it difficult for you to find another club'.

He's a decent footballer despite some of the comments on here. He will find another club. I have some sympathy because he was convinced to come here by a manager who was promptly sacked. JFH had his own ideas which lets face it were completely muddled to put it politely. This left him out of the picture but I cannot condone his tactics to get his contract paid out. I wish him well in his career going forward.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2019, 21:36:09 pm
Bayo, however, has made a bid for the club. A KFC bucket and a cola.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TownOwl on January 04, 2019, 21:37:52 pm
Derek Asamoah is one of my favourite Cobblers players ever and I know we really need a winger, but no we're not going to be signing a 37 year old now non-league journeyman like that.
Maybe he was catching up with friends.

Bay and Asamoah, what a combo that would be!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 04, 2019, 21:38:52 pm
No it is not true. END OF.
Are you ITK ? Wink


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 21:39:05 pm
Remember DA saying club agreed free with Port Vale for Waters in the Summer (that's why he didn't go on the trip abroad) but Billy turned down the deal...perhaps Vale will come in again or even Cheltenham.
I think BW, who worked really hard in the off-season and pre-season, thought he would be given a chance at this club to prove himself so decided to stay. He knows by now that it's not going to happen so I see him going if someone comes in for him.  


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2019, 21:39:27 pm
How can anyone wish Kasim the best? Come on, you live by the sword you buy a scimitar.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 04, 2019, 21:43:22 pm
Something along the lines of 'go and we'll say it's by mutual consent, or we'll sack you and the reasons for it will make it difficult for you to find another club'.

He's a decent footballer despite some of the comments on here. He will find another club. I have some sympathy because he was convinced to come here by a manager who was promptly sacked. JFH had his own ideas which lets face it were completely muddled to put it politely. This left him out of the picture but I cannot condone his tactics to get his contract paid out. I wish him well in his career going forward.
Football is an incestuous world .
Personally I have no sympathy for the bloke but hope he enjoys his payout .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 21:47:45 pm
Football is an incestuous world .
Personally I have no sympathy for the bloke but hope he enjoys his payout .
He's been paid very well for his time but the remainder of his contract wasn't paid up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 04, 2019, 21:55:26 pm
Derek Asamoah is deffo at Moulton and in a hotel in Northampton according to his Instagram.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 04, 2019, 22:05:04 pm
Derek Asamoah is deffo at Moulton and in a hotel in Northampton according to his Instagram.
37yrs old. Can he kick it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 04, 2019, 22:09:36 pm
37yrs old. Can he kick it?

Presume/hope it's more to do with his son rather than Derek!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 04, 2019, 22:13:00 pm
37yrs old. Can he kick it?

https://youtu.be/O3pyCGnZzYA


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2019, 22:31:36 pm
Derek Asamoah is deffo at Moulton and in a hotel in Northampton according to his Instagram.
If (unlikely), he was about to sign, then surely he would be advised about non usage of social media?
Then again, he might just be stupid. Who knows?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 22:35:15 pm
If (unlikely), he was about to sign, then surely he would be advised about non usage of social media?
Then again, he might just be stupid. Who knows?

I don't think that by posting a few pictures on instagram it's going to alert other league clubs to his availability and we're going to get gazumped - we're probably the only league club that would be likely to be interested in a 37 year old journeyman!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 04, 2019, 22:40:44 pm
So...this could be total bull but...

Derek asamoah (yes the asamoah who out stepoverred Ronaldo when Utd visit sixfields many moons ago) posted on his Instagram story that he was at Moulton earlier today and then has also posted he's in a hotel room in northampton.

Were him and curle both at Carlisle at the same time?

I could be putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 but thought I'd report what I saw!!

All 3 of Derek's boys were/are in the Reading Academy. I suspect it is much more likely we are looking at his eldest, especially as he already has an affinity with both KC and NTFC


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2019, 22:43:47 pm
I don't think that by posting a few pictures on instagram it's going to alert other league clubs to his availability and we're going to get gazumped - we're probably the only league club that would be likely to be interested in a 37 year old journeyman!
Hence my use of the word "unlikely".  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2019, 23:00:51 pm
Hence my use of the word "unlikely".  ;)

No worries mate - silly season is well and truly upon us!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 05, 2019, 10:02:18 am
All 3 of Derek's boys were/are in the Reading Academy. I suspect it is much more likely we are looking at his eldest, especially as he already has an affinity with both KC and NTFC

Maleace, Zayshaun and Amari.

The only article I can find about 'team Asamoah' was 2 years ago when the eldest, Maleace, won an under 13 tournament at Reading. That would make him 15 possibly 16 years of age now, so unless he's joining our Academy I doubt it will be about his sons joining us. The plot thickens.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 05, 2019, 10:25:18 am
Maleace, Zayshaun and Amari.

The only article I can find about 'team Asamoah' was 2 years ago when the eldest, Maleace, won an under 13 tournament at Reading. That would make him 15 possibly 16 years of age now, so unless he's joining our Academy I doubt it will be about his sons joining us. The plot thickens.


Maleace looks likely... considering the first clip is DA at the training ground, second is a clip of DA and assumed MA (looks about 16!) in a restaurant and the third shows MA trying to dry a pair of football boots in a hotel in Moulton.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 05, 2019, 11:21:17 am
Maleace looks likely... considering the first clip is DA at the training ground, second is a clip of DA and assumed MA (looks about 16!) in a restaurant and the third shows MA trying to dry a pair of football boots in a hotel in Moulton.

No mention of him on the Reading under 18 profiles on their website. So, where's he playing his football at the moment? Or, is he still representing a lower age group. In that case men's football will be a big step up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 05, 2019, 13:34:50 pm
Some trialists in the under 18 team today. I take it this is where Asamoah junior comes into the equation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 05, 2019, 14:24:04 pm
Must stress again that it's unsubstantiated but I heard purchase price of £400K and sale price £100K.

Deano currently answering questions on Twitter...so those itk know sweet fa!

KVv told me in May he did not want to play L2 football which I respected but club wanted recovery of his 125k fee or full wages on a loan deal. No bids were forthcoming so he stayed. I thought he would go hence signing Willo an Junior. Good lad and I wish him well 👍🏻


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 05, 2019, 15:56:57 pm
So how much did scunny pay? Bet it wasnít more than 50 grand!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 05, 2019, 16:12:04 pm
Deano currently answering questions on Twitter...so those itk know sweet fa!

KVV told me in May he did not want to play L2 football which I respected but club wanted recovery of his 125k fee or full wages on a loan deal. No bids were forthcoming so he stayed. I thought he would go hence signing Willo an Junior. Good lad and I wish him well 👍🏻
Thought I'd dealt with the hard of understanding the other day then you come out the woodwork. Never claimed to be in the 'know' on the transfer fee. Emphasised it was unsubstantiated rumour, but the above does back what I said months ago that KVV wanted out. Read back and you will see my comments on KVVs desire to leave were statements and unsubstantiated rumour. Let me know if you need further clarification.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 05, 2019, 16:13:14 pm
So how much did scunny pay? Bet it wasnít more than 50 grand!

Undisclosed fee  :P


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 05, 2019, 16:14:06 pm
So how much did scunny pay? Bet it wasnít more than 50 grand!

£35k was rumoured.......I'll certainly bet it wasn't the amount paid for him in the end. Smacks of fire sale!!

He's only on the bench for them today......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 05, 2019, 16:22:24 pm
So far today Rudolph van Petulant has contributed nothing at Scunny.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 05, 2019, 16:23:30 pm
All 3 of Derek's boys were/are in the Reading Academy. I suspect it is much more likely we are looking at his eldest, especially as he already has an affinity with both KC and NTFC
You got this right. His lad trained with the U18s yesterday and played a part in the U16 game today. This is with a view to earning a scholarship and playing for the U18s next season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 05, 2019, 16:38:43 pm
£35k was rumoured.......I'll certainly bet it wasn't the amount paid for him in the end. Smacks of fire sale!!

He's only on the bench for them today......

The chron indicated we had got most of the money back.  If we were going to literally give him away we probably could have done that in the summer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfc01 on January 05, 2019, 16:39:22 pm
£35k was rumoured.......I'll certainly bet it wasn't the amount paid for him in the end. Smacks of fire sale!!

He's only on the bench for them today......

35k ...do me a favour....it's already been said it wasn't far off what we paifld for him.

The was a sports psychologist on talk sport the other who is attached to an un-named club. He was talking about fans of clubs and every club seems to have fans "in the know".He then went on to say since he had been attached to a club he realised how little people on the outside actually know. His figure was as little as 10%.

Judging by the know it alls on here is say 10% was vastly exaggerated


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 05, 2019, 16:55:37 pm
DA confirms the fee for KVV was £125k .
Exactly the figure I said it was at the time and stated again this week when it was queried .
Told you .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 05, 2019, 16:57:40 pm
So far today Rudolph van Petulant has contributed nothing at Scunny.

Hopefully his beloved Sc***horpe will be relegated on the last day of the season after he misses a last minute penalty which would have kept them up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2019, 17:32:47 pm
Hopefully his beloved Sc***horpe will be relegated on the last day of the season after he misses a last minute penalty which would have kept them up.
;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2019, 20:46:51 pm
Hopefully his beloved Sc***horpe will be relegated on the last day of the season after he misses a last minute penalty which would have kept them up.

Thats a bit petualant as it was vV who helped us win our first L2 game.That penalty of his against Crawley was class.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 05, 2019, 20:50:54 pm
Hopefully his beloved Sc***horpe will be relegated on the last day of the season after he misses a last minute penalty which would have kept them up.

No chance, I predict them to motor up the table in to the playoffs. Maybe Kevin will score the winning penalty at the shootout in the playoff final. Good luck to him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 05, 2019, 21:51:33 pm
Thats a bit petualant as it was vV who helped us win our first L2 game.That penalty of his against Crawley was class.

No more so than your response, grow up and join in


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2019, 22:23:23 pm
No more so than your response, grow up and join in

Still a petulant comment and immature as well. Only opinions tho' by both of us ; they are allowed on here.Still think vV was class we probably wont see his like again for some time.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 05, 2019, 22:38:48 pm
Loving the pretend shock at the transfer dealings from the club with the 1980s infrastructure.
Thomas knew cobblers being relegated would change the world forever as far as his plans were concerned.
Let's move on Thomas free and under the guidance of those who actully know their arses from their elbows.
Saying that I hope Thomas makes a fortune from the land grab so its gone forever so we and our easily maniplatated council no longer have to suffer from being dragged along by this nonsence any longer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2019, 22:55:57 pm
Loving the pretend shock at the transfer dealings from the club with the 1980s infrastructure.
Thomas knew cobblers being relegated would change the world forever as far as his plans were concerned.
Let's move on Thomas free and under the guidance of those who actully know their arses from their elbows.
Saying that I hope Thomas makes a fortune from the land grab so its gone forever so we and our easily maniplatated council no longer have to suffer from being dragged along by this nonsence any longer.
Was back in the Mermaid, St Albans again today. Probably both our posts belong in another thread!  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 06, 2019, 00:19:40 am
Loving the pretend shock at the transfer dealings from the club with the 1980s infrastructure.
Thomas knew cobblers being relegated would change the world forever as far as his plans were concerned.
Let's move on Thomas free and under the guidance of those who actully know their arses from their elbows.
Saying that I hope Thomas makes a fortune from the land grab so its gone forever so we and our easily maniplatated council no longer have to suffer from being dragged along by this nonsence any longer.

Back in your box! This is transfer related waffle (no matter how strange) NOT another place for you to spin your agenda. Lots of room in the development thread for you to preach to yourself. Enjoy yourself.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 06, 2019, 01:29:49 am
Back in your box! This is transfer related waffle (no matter how strange) NOT another place for you to spin your agenda. Lots of room in the development thread for you to preach to yourself. Enjoy yourself.
So who are we signing then Ron?
Oh that's right you don't actually say Anything cohesive  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Stig on January 06, 2019, 02:40:12 am
We sold KVV for 100k (Sc***horpe press said so) so made 25k loss on transfer fee but saved x amount on his wages for last 18months. No point keeping a player that didnít want to be here or even sign in first place. Good luck to him. Have a feeling he will be back in lg2 next season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 06, 2019, 14:26:40 pm
Jon Marquis scores his 19th goal of the season.
If there was one serious f**k up by this club , it was dismantling the side that won the league and not opting to sign Marquis .
Rob Page just didnít get it .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Charlatan on January 06, 2019, 14:30:41 pm
Jon Marquis scores his 19th goal of the season.
If there was one serious f**k up by this club , it was dismantling the side that won the league and not opting to sign Marquis .
Rob Page just didnít get it .
Couldn't agree more. Marquis was keen to sign as well.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 06, 2019, 15:30:13 pm
Jon Marquis scores his 19th goal of the season.
If there was one serious f**k up by this club , it was dismantling the side that won the league and not opting to sign Marquis .
Rob Page just didnít get it .
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2019, 16:09:27 pm
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!

Yeah hinsight is a wonderful. He certainly never set the world alight while he was here, yes he was extremely hard working but he would often miss more chances than had score, certainly never looked a lg1 20 goal a season forward and I would say very touch and go decision as to it you would offer him a new deal. If only we could all look in to the future.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 06, 2019, 16:09:41 pm
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!
After his first loan spell with us he went on to play for Cheltenham where we knew the danger he possessed and duly scored the winner for them.
So when he returned for his second spell no one was in any doubt of his work rate and eye for a goal, all the attributes we needed then and still need.
He has become seriously prolific since so he wouldve been shipped out yonks ago for an undisclosed 100k anyhow.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 06, 2019, 16:44:27 pm
So who are we signing then Ron?
Oh that's right you don't actually say Anything cohesive  ;D

I hope we don't sign anyone. Wait until the summer and blood some more youth for the remainder of the season. There you go. Far more cohesive than you trying to spread a bitter campaign against our owners on every thread. Just keep it to the development thread! If you want to actually talk about anything else Cobblers that's great and would be most welcome, just make sure you don't revert to type and add in one of your usual digs!  ;)

After his first loan spell with us he went on to play for Cheltenham where we knew the danger he possessed and duly scored the winner for them.
So when he returned for his second spell no one was in any doubt of his work rate and eye for a goal, all the attributes we needed then and still need.
He has become seriously prolific since so he wouldve been shipped out yonks ago for an undisclosed 100k anyhow.

See you can do it!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 06, 2019, 17:08:57 pm
Mathius, any comment on the deals offered to Cam Mc Williams and Jay Williams, as you know what goes on there


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 06, 2019, 17:43:48 pm
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!

Football is subjective. I really wanted us to sign him, but then again Im a big fan of hard working 'type' strikers; Super Scott, Grayson etc. Thats why I like Hoskins a lot.

And thats why I never particularly liked KVV, and Im delighted that he's been sold. Although I did warm to him a little this season.

Id also sell Crookes, who cant be bothered half the time. He might be skilful, he might be our best player. But if a player cant be assed half of the time, then I don't want him at my football club!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 06, 2019, 17:47:58 pm
Grayson and mcGleish worked hard and there was an end product with Hoskins, (cant fault his workrate) there is none


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 06, 2019, 17:53:38 pm
Grayson and mcGleish worked hard and there was an end product with Hoskins, (cant fault his workrate) there is none

You know what I mean. Kirk lover  ;) ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 06, 2019, 17:55:13 pm
Football is subjective. I really wanted us to sign him, but then again Im a big fan of hard working 'type' strikers; Super Scott, Grayson etc. Thats why I like Hoskins a lot.

And thats why I never particularly liked KVV, and Im delighted that he's been sold. Although I did warm to him a little this season.

Id also sell Crookes, who cant be bothered half the time. He might be skilful, he might be our best player. But if a player cant be assed half of the time, then I don't want him at my football club!
Whilst I understand your viewpoint, why my shoulders sink when I see Hoskins in the side is whilst his running stats are good, his lack of awareness and end product is mind numbing! If you want runners sign Mo Farah!
Our team needs a Crooks alongside McWilliams and Williams type of player.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 06, 2019, 18:05:53 pm
Just trawling the top scorer list from the conference (sad, I know, but I find myself doing it every January).

The names that jump out at me are Blair Turgott, a 6ft tall former West Ham winger who has scored 11 goals for Maidstone and Luke Armstrong a striker who has scored 10 goals in 16 games on loan at Gateshead from Middlesborough.

We haven't signed a highly rated conference prospect for donkeys years (we tend to leave that to boro). However, I would suggest that these are the type of players we should be looking at.





Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 06, 2019, 18:11:21 pm
It is good to encourage and blood youth players.  Howerer in order to get out of league 2 we need hardened pros and some quality.

We will always be a lower league yo yo club.

And I totally agree that Page dismantling the Wilder team was suicidal.

The ciub lacks ambition and have let their supporters down.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 06, 2019, 18:35:14 pm
I agree with Drilling re Crooks. He has the Rudolph van Reluctant disease and needs to get shifted out of that dressing room as it is a bad influence especially in the younger players. He has a real talent but chooses when to use it. I also agree with the last sentence above by AbingtonCobbler.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on January 06, 2019, 18:43:29 pm
Jon Marquis scores his 19th goal of the season.
If there was one serious f**k up by this club , it was dismantling the side that won the league and not opting to sign Marquis .
Rob Page just didnít get it .

The numerous bags of s***e we've signed since that title winning season and the useless managers we've gone through are the reasons I highly doubt Marquis would have got near ten goals in a season let alone twenty.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2019, 18:45:42 pm
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!

Long wait BBS!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 06, 2019, 19:14:01 pm
It is good to encourage and blood youth players.  Howerer in order to get out of league 2 we need hardened pros and some quality.


Do you feel we are promotion candidates this season then?

Very rarely have we signed anyone in the window and it works out. Moloney and Holmes, anyone else?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 06, 2019, 20:08:05 pm
Mathius, any comment on the deals offered to Cam McWilliams and Jay Williams, as you know what goes on there
Heard it's done and they deserve it, but so do several others. Will be interesting to see who joins them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 06, 2019, 20:31:42 pm
Heard its done ? From the same source as your other rumours, or is this a different source that might have  substance. ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 06, 2019, 20:44:06 pm
Do you feel we are promotion candidates this season then?

Very rarely have we signed anyone in the window and it works out. Moloney and Holmes, anyone else?
Jason Taylor, signed I believe at the same time as the other two you mention


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2019, 22:27:38 pm
Four League two clubs reportedly chasing Crawley`s Ollie Palmer, 10 goals in 20 games this season.

No idea if we would be amongst those.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2019, 22:33:20 pm
Four League two clubs reportedly chasing Crawley`s Ollie Palmer, 10 goals in 20 games this season.

No idea if we would be amongst those.

Sent off and conceded the penalty when we played them a few weeks ago - I think it's safe to say that he didn't get on with Pierre!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 06, 2019, 22:36:30 pm
Four League two clubs reportedly chasing Crawley`s Ollie Palmer, 10 goals in 20 games this season.

No idea if we would be amongst those.

Possibly not if this is anything to go by ...

https://www-crawleyobserver-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/sport/football/clubs-race-to-sign-crawley-town-star-in-transfer-window-1-8759331/amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crawleyobserver.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Fclubs-race-to-sign-crawley-town-star-in-transfer-window-1-8759331


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2019, 23:08:52 pm
I hope we don't sign anyone. Wait until the summer and blood some more youth for the remainder of the season. There you go. Far more cohesive than you trying to spread a bitter campaign against our owners on every thread. Just keep it to the development thread! If you want to actually talk about anything else Cobblers that's great and would be most welcome, just make sure you don't revert to type and add in one of your usual digs!  ;)

See you can do it!  ;D

Frank - I don't quite subscribe to your willingness to promote youth. To me KC is introducing one or two who are worthy of their place or even a 'risk'.Due to our recent form we are more likely to potentially drop down the table rather than an upward spiral.  The time to blood young players is nearer to the end of the season or perhaps with sufficient points onboard. As soon as a Club suffers a downward trend even if well placed it unsettles both supporters/directors and is best avoided. By all means blood young players such as Willians v FGR; but to jeopardize or threaten our league survival seems a poor policy to me. We clearly need some experienced players in to steady the boat.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 00:34:49 am
I am not suggesting it could be done wholesale. I had predicted one big earner ,Kasim, Ward and Waters would go. Three from four so far? Just offer contracts to four younger players and promote them to the match day squad. Jay Williams, C McWilliams appear to be the first two, two more to follow.We still have the aged Buchanan 32 , Bowditch 32, Foley 32 and Andy Williams 32. Add O'Tool at 30 if you like :)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 00:52:39 am
Jason Taylor, signed I believe at the same time as the other two you mention

Yes, he came in and did a good job. He was only given a contract in the summer though after a good loan period if l remember correctly. It's seems strange to me that he is still younger than four of our first team. Holmes and Moloney signed contracts after one month loans.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 07, 2019, 09:29:21 am
Yet again the joy of hindsight expertise! Can you show me your and others comments saying to keep Marquis because he is good enough to score 20+ in League 1? I have no problem saying I and my friends thought he was a player who gave effort but not the finishing quality for NTFC.

I await you showing your comments from 2 years ago!
No hindsight from me or lots of others.
I wanted to sign him at the time and couldnít understand why we let the opportunity pass.
No , Iím not going to try and find comments from two years ago - other things to do Iím afraid.
Many others on here agreed though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Cordwainer2 on January 07, 2019, 09:55:58 am
Well, I am one of those who thought Marquis was an honest, hard working player, but would not be good enough for League 1. I thought we could and should do better! I admit I was totally wrong but I was not the only one.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 07, 2019, 10:11:33 am
No hindsight from me or lots of others.
I wanted to sign him at the time and couldnít understand why we let the opportunity pass.
No , Iím not going to try and find comments from two years ago - other things to do Iím afraid.
Many others on here agreed though.
I agree. Liked him from the 1st loan. Like a lot of fans at the time, thought it was a given that we would at least make him an offer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Knockingonabit on January 07, 2019, 10:26:32 am
I agree as well. Also thought Zander and Concrete were playing well together and deserved a chance in league 1. Don't ask what I thought of Page!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 07, 2019, 10:55:56 am
#signjohn


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 07, 2019, 11:15:08 am
Well, I am one of those who thought Marquis was an honest, hard working player, but would not be good enough for League 1. I thought we could and should do better! I admit I was totally wrong but I was not the only one.

I agree at the time I'm not sure I would have given him a contract, I would have been 50/50.

As you say he was always very hard working but didn't score hatfuls in league 2 - in fact missed more changes than he scored and given he had opportunities at Millwall at a higher level and again struggled you could argue you would have thought better were out there. I am happy to admit that was wrong too.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 07, 2019, 11:38:32 am
Here's what I said at the time:

I like Collins and would be happy if we signed him, however personally I prefer Marquis. Money being no object, I'd love to sign them both but I can't help but think that those two and Rico offer largely the same option with Hoskins our only variation up front. Realistically, my choice would be to sign Marquis and then go for a nippier, more mobile forward to allow us to chop and change a bit more.

I stand by what I said about Marquis and Collins !


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 07, 2019, 11:46:38 am
Not too sure that Rob Page had much influence on which loan(ees) we retained, they had already returned to their parent clubs by the time he took over?
A lot of blame has been attached to him for the break up of the title winning squad, I
believe that he was unable to do much about it as most had been decided prior to his taking over the reins?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 07, 2019, 12:11:56 pm
Not too sure that Rob Page had much influence on which loan(ees) we retained, they had already returned to their parent clubs by the time he took over?
A lot of blame has been attached to him for the break up of the title winning squad, I
believe that he was unable to do much about it as most had been decided prior to his taking over the reins?

you are right - but why let facts spoil a witch hunt!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Quintonside on January 07, 2019, 12:17:29 pm
Do you feel we are promotion candidates this season then?

Very rarely have we signed anyone in the window and it works out. Moloney and Holmes, anyone else?

What actually happened to Moloney?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 07, 2019, 12:31:34 pm
No hindsight from me or lots of others.
I wanted to sign him at the time and couldnít understand why we let the opportunity pass.
No , Iím not going to try and find comments from two years ago - other things to do Iím afraid.
Many others on here agreed though.
Yes, agree. Think from the time he came from Millwall to his departure to Donny, it was clear to most during those spells that he was one that should have never got away!

Agree hindsight plays its part with so many players leaving, whether it be Moyo, Toney, Billy McKay or Louis Moult...but Marquis, no!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Monkey on January 07, 2019, 12:50:14 pm
What actually happened to Moloney?

Doing his coaching badges but not sure if he wanted to continue playing or not. Think he turned down the Cobblers offer... it was assumed as he got a contract elsewhere which either didnt materialise or wasnt true.
Shame as I really rated him - his was immense in his first game back after a long lay off (v Coventry) and good memories of his goal v Notts C (setting up the infamous Wilder speech).

He lived down the road from me but noticed there was a To Rent sign outside it at the end of the season.

As for Marquis - I said at the time I'd keep him over Rico and Collins. I also rated Moult but couldnt understand how Ian Henderson became a footballer - my least favourite player of all time.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 07, 2019, 15:38:26 pm
loan signing announcement at 4pm.  no idea who it is, but I'm going for a GK.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 15:42:55 pm
loan signing announcement at 4pm.  no idea who it is, but I'm going for a GK.

Maybe a Chealsea player?

By all means blood young players such as Willians 

 :D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2019, 15:46:31 pm
loan signing announcement at 4pm.  no idea who it is, but I'm going for a GK.
Gleasure spotted at Sixfields..


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 07, 2019, 15:47:14 pm
loan signing announcement at 4pm.  no idea who it is, but I'm going for a GK.

Don't think it will be a gk but I may be wrong.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2019, 15:50:17 pm
Welcome mike Jones who wonít be able to play against his parent club on Saturday (not that Iím itk or anything I just wouldnít be surprised!).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 07, 2019, 15:52:19 pm
I wonder if we will get a big video unveiling!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 15:53:57 pm
I wonder if we will get a big video unveiling!!!

Only if it's Bayo.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 07, 2019, 15:55:05 pm
Loan ? Just a stop gap measure then.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 07, 2019, 15:59:26 pm
Loan ? Just a stop gap measure then.

I recon he is to replace Crooks


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 07, 2019, 16:00:21 pm
Loan ? Just a stop gap measure then.
Till the end of the season...but erm, recalled at anytime!  ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:01:02 pm
George cox left winger.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 07, 2019, 16:01:47 pm
either back up for Buchs or he is being ousted by a bloke with a few professional games to his name, either way no bad thing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2019, 16:05:40 pm
George cox left winger.
Hes the greatest...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:06:53 pm
Hes the greatest...

Cox meister?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 07, 2019, 16:07:55 pm
George cox left winger.

Left sided player. I take it this means no return for Bunney.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Carlislefan on January 07, 2019, 16:08:44 pm
Welcome mike Jones who wonít be able to play against his parent club on Saturday (not that Iím itk or anything I just wouldnít be surprised!).

He'd possibly be the only one Curle would be interested in that wouldn't demand a fee at present, Richie Bennett is available but national league is his level. Summer could be a different story.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 07, 2019, 16:09:05 pm
As predicted
Itís like Groundhog Day.....
Inexperienced prem youth team players....

Of no benefit whatsoever as even if he does play well(letís hope so) he wonít be signing for us.
Might as well have played one of our own youth team.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:09:55 pm
Left sided player. I take it this means no return for Bunney.

Bunney back in as a striker?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 07, 2019, 16:13:49 pm
George cox left winger.

He's a left back according to the Brighton website

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/u23-team/defender/george-cox/


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 07, 2019, 16:14:25 pm
George cox left winger.

Doesn't appear to have a Wikipedia page.

KC out.  ;D




Left sided player. I take it this means no return for Bunney.

Unless there are plans to shift Sixfields up the M6, I highly doubt it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:15:03 pm
Looks like Cox has had problems with his heart (hopefully all sorted). Welcome George.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/462096442


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:17:01 pm
He's a left back according to the Brighton website

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/u23-team/defender/george-cox/


He might end up in goal then!  :P


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 07, 2019, 16:23:49 pm
Looks like Cox has had problems with his heart (hopefully all sorted). Welcome George.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/462096442
Looks a very promising addition. The heart problem has delayed his progress but he probably would have been playing at a higher level otherwise.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 07, 2019, 16:28:25 pm
Looks a very promising addition. The heart problem has delayed his progress but he probably would have been playing at a higher level otherwise.

Very possible. We will see :) Just hope he is given a chance by our cheerleaders.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 07, 2019, 16:33:05 pm
Looks a very promising addition. The heart problem has delayed his progress but he probably would have been playing at a higher level otherwise.

Sounds promising to me - a bit of width can't hurt anyone!

see Ariybi has gone to Motherwell

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46782492


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 07, 2019, 16:45:43 pm
Sounds promising to me - a bit of width can't hurt anyone!

see Ariybi has gone to Motherwell

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46782492
Thanks for that. Thought Ariybi was decent. Shame injury cut short his stay.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 07, 2019, 17:11:35 pm
He's a left back according to the Brighton website

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/teams/u23-team/defender/george-cox/


Excellent. Left back was always one of our two biggest problem positions and has caused Curle to try all kind of systems and players to try and patch over the issue, much as Hasselbaink had to before he was able to sign Bunney last January. It was verging on sabotage to not replace Bunney over the summer IMO, crazy stuff.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 07, 2019, 17:20:42 pm
As predicted
Itís like Groundhog Day.....
Inexperienced prem youth team players....

Of no benefit whatsoever as even if he does play well(letís hope so) he wonít be signing for us.
Might as well have played one of our own youth team.....

Do we have a left wing back in our youth set up who is knocking on the door...?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: meccanostand on January 07, 2019, 17:40:03 pm
Do we have a left wing back in our youth set up who is knocking on the door...?

The youth team don't play wing-backs which is a problem for continuity through to the first team.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: meccanostand on January 07, 2019, 17:42:58 pm
As predicted
Itís like Groundhog Day.....
Inexperienced prem youth team players....

Of no benefit whatsoever as even if he does play well(letís hope so) he wonít be signing for us.
Might as well have played one of our own youth team.....

There is undoubtedly a feeling of the temporary about it and yes we've been here before several times. But Buchanan needs competition so what's Curle to do realistically?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2019, 18:17:20 pm
As predicted
Itís like Groundhog Day.....
Inexperienced prem youth team players....

Of no benefit whatsoever as even if he does play well(letís hope so) he wonít be signing for us.
Might as well have played one of our own youth team.....

You really down at the moment so you come on here with negative opinions. Try a positive attitude and be more constructive.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 07, 2019, 18:29:19 pm
outrageous untrue facts?

BWAHAHAHA!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 07, 2019, 18:32:44 pm
You really down at the moment so you come on here with negative opinions. Try a positive attitude and be more constructive.
Itís called an opinion
Itís based on years of experience of the club bringing in youth team loans who have little first team experience
Iím sure someone far cleverer than me could list all the youth team loaners weíve had in the last decade and what they are doing now...
God knows how many weíve tried
For every Kyle Walker there must be twenty petr mikolandas,bignalls etc

The list would make informative reading.
That is what my opinion was based upon.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lodgeadam on January 07, 2019, 19:02:28 pm
Itís called an opinion
Itís based on years of experience of the club bringing in youth team loans who have little first team experience
Iím sure someone far cleverer than me could list all the youth team loaners weíve had in the last decade and what they are doing now...
God knows how many weíve tried
For every Kyle Walker there must be twenty petr mikolandas,bignalls etc

The list would make informative reading.
That is what my opinion was based upon.



If loan players from prem youth teams bother you that much - stop supporting a league two football team. Pick another source of entertainment!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 07, 2019, 19:13:30 pm
The question is , will KC play Cox or is he cover for Buchanan ?
Either way , it had to happen because we are seriously exposed there .
Itís a **** bringing someone in with no first team experience though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 07, 2019, 19:59:45 pm
No real issue with Cox signing. Only really going to get temp measures in January.

Summer will be the real test of who comes in.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 07, 2019, 20:03:50 pm
If loan players from prem youth teams bother you that much - stop supporting a league two football team. Pick another source of entertainment!
Ok


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 07, 2019, 20:46:54 pm
The question is , will KC play Cox or is he cover for Buchanan ?
Either way , it had to happen because we are seriously exposed there .
Itís a **** bringing someone in with no first team experience though.
I think over the last 10 games or so, we have had a lot more problems in the right back position than with Buchs at left back.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 07, 2019, 20:47:34 pm
Chris Long


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2019, 21:10:58 pm
Welcome mike Jones who wonít be able to play against his parent club on Saturday (not that Iím itk or anything I just wouldnít be surprised!).

Go on apart from the obvious connections how did you arrive at Mike Jones (on bench for Carlisle Sat). Was it just a random pick?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Carlo Corazzins Corduroy on January 07, 2019, 21:19:39 pm
Chris Long

Hmmm... I actually think he'd be a decent goal-scorer in League Two, but don't see what he offers over Williams or Morias. No real pace so wouldn't be effective out wide either. Would be good as cover but not worthwhile him making the move just for that.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 07, 2019, 21:26:09 pm
Anyone watching Liverpool tonight can once again see the diffeence between having a proper keeper in goal and a 2nd rate keeper who is prone to mistakes. Costs you over time!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 07, 2019, 21:32:40 pm
Anyone watching Liverpool tonight can once again see the diffeence between having a proper keeper in goal and a 2nd rate keeper who is prone to mistakes. Costs you over time!
Suggestion......Why not create your own " Cornell is a waste of space thread" so we don't have to read about on every thread created  ::) ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2019, 22:08:38 pm
As predicted
Itís like Groundhog Day.....
Inexperienced prem youth team players....

Of no benefit whatsoever as even if he does play well(letís hope so) he wonít be signing for us.
Might as well have played one of our own youth team.....

Not sure if you have investigated George Cox/Brighton situation. Brighton have released a number of their under 23 squad to Notts County, Derby and wait for it Peterborough! So it seems quite a few decent Clubs are taking a punt on under 23 players. These decisions seem at odds with your 'Groundhog Day' statement.

Discuss ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2019, 22:23:52 pm
Anyone watching Liverpool tonight can once again see the diffeence between having a proper keeper in goal and a 2nd rate keeper who is prone to mistakes. Costs you over time!

No doubt you watched the recent Nottingham Forest game(TV), both keepers failing with shots staright at them or beaten at their near post. Also pretty sure I saw a cross shot by Man City player which evaded opposing keeper who failed to position himself correctly against a world class striker! Dear oh Dear !


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 07, 2019, 22:33:58 pm
Anyone watching Liverpool tonight can once again see the diffeence between having a proper keeper in goal and a 2nd rate keeper who is prone to mistakes. Costs you over time!

Freddy Woodman did ok for Newcastle yesterday....then again, he is only their third choice keeper!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 07, 2019, 22:51:07 pm
Twitter rumour...

Finally, Leeds will be looking to send Sam Dalby to L2 club this window. Northampton and Stevenage are thought to be keen...

From Wiki...

Dalby style of play was likened to English Striker Harry Kane, due to his stature, finishing and hold up play. He was described as a special talent, with former Orient teammate James Dayton describing him 'Heís left-footed, has a lovely touch and heís very aware of space. He is very natural at taking the ball into space and away from pressure'.[17]


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 08, 2019, 00:25:24 am
Twitter rumour...

Finally, Leeds will be looking to send Sam Dalby to L2 club this window. Northampton and Stevenage are thought to be keen...

From Wiki...

Dalby style of play was likened to English Striker Harry Kane, due to his stature, finishing and hold up play. He was described as a special talent, with former Orient teammate James Dayton describing him 'Heís left-footed, has a lovely touch and heís very aware of space. He is very natural at taking the ball into space and away from pressure'.[17]


https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/one-to-watch-sam-dalby-stars-as-leeds-united-u23-s-topple-ipswich-town-1-9072342


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 08, 2019, 05:10:17 am
Looks like Crooks is staying put. My source was telling porkys.
Thats good news..


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2019, 09:36:13 am
Looks like Crooks is staying put. My source was telling porkys.
Thats good news..

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 08, 2019, 09:52:48 am
I am very happy that Curle has recruited a proper LWB. Buchanan has been a good servant but is severely lacking in the final third and hasn't got the pace to beat a man.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 08, 2019, 10:35:28 am
Not sure if you have investigated George Smith/Brighton situation. Brighton have released a number of their under 23 squad to Notts County, Derby and wait for it Peterborough! So it seems quite a few decent Clubs are taking a punt on under 23 players. These decisions seem at odds with your 'Groundhog Day' statement.

Discuss ::)
COX


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 08, 2019, 10:43:43 am
Latest from KC on official site...

ďWe are always looking at how we can strengthen the squad but I think itís important in this window to have one eye on good housekeeping.

ďIíve inherited a squad that is quite sizeable in terms of numbers and a very healthy budget that is used up by the players here. Trying to add to that budget isnít easy and it may be easier to add to that with players going in a different direction.

ďWeíve got a competitive squad for where we are but as Iíve always said if the right player is available then we will look at it."


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 08, 2019, 10:58:53 am
Latest from KC on official site...

ďWe are always looking at how we can strengthen the squad but I think itís important in this window to have one eye on good housekeeping.

ďIíve inherited a squad that is quite sizeable in terms of numbers and a very healthy budget that is used up by the players here. Trying to add to that budget isnít easy and it may be easier to add to that with players going in a different direction.

ďWeíve got a competitive squad for where we are but as Iíve always said if the right player is available then we will look at it."
This is exactly what KT said some time ago .
We have a top 5 budget at least and so are not getting the best from what we have currently.
There is no money left and so there will be no spectacular signings in this window.
The team should be doing a lot better , itís as simple as that.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 08, 2019, 11:11:48 am
Agree, still need to ship out quite a few big earners if we can during this window...

Hopefully, pro contacts imminent for both Jay Williams & Cam McWilliams


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2019, 11:29:48 am
COX


Thks - amended


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 08, 2019, 11:49:59 am
COX
This sort of thing is not needed on this board. People just having a discussion on which players we might bring in and someone shouts COX, no need, we might bring in some good players  :)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2019, 13:06:03 pm
This sort of thing is not needed on this board. People just having a discussion on which players we might bring in and someone shouts COX, no need, we might bring in some good players  :)

Take no notice Charity ;) he means well. Again thks for the correction/reminder. Taking too many happy pills (Codeine 35g) real druggie!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 08, 2019, 15:15:14 pm
Take no notice Charity ;) he means well. Again thks for the correction/reminder. Taking too many happy pills (Codeine 35g) real druggie!

Wrap up warm tonight, just three degrees forecast. Take Good Care Of Yourself.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cox23jam on January 08, 2019, 16:03:00 pm
COX

Here!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 08, 2019, 16:47:16 pm
Take no notice Charity ;) he means well. Again thks for the correction/reminder. Taking too many happy pills (Codeine 35g) real druggie!
Youíre doing this on purpose arenít you? Itís Clarity


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2019, 16:58:38 pm
Youíre doing this on purpose arenít you? Itís Clarity

Yes but I did insert an emoji in an attempt of 'pulling yr leg'.
Please accept apologies.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 08, 2019, 17:08:57 pm
Some player news at 5.30 apparently.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Aitobs on January 08, 2019, 17:13:59 pm
Some player news at 5.30 apparently.

Note the wording. Chron Sports Editor describes it as "player news" rather than "new signing" which I'm inferring as meaning that there is another departure from the club. Or possibly a new contract being signed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 08, 2019, 17:20:07 pm
Note the wording. Chron Sports Editor describes it as "player news" rather than "new signing" which I'm inferring as meaning that there is another departure from the club. Or possibly a new contract being signed.

I must admit thatís what I thought - Jay Williams and cam McWilliams?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 08, 2019, 17:20:52 pm
Note the wording. Chron Sports Editor describes it as "player news" rather than "new signing" which I'm inferring as meaning that there is another departure from the club. Or possibly a new contract being signed.

Pro deals for Jay Williams and Cam McWilliams?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Lukey on January 08, 2019, 17:26:01 pm
We may have a top 5 budget but that doesn't mean the squad is under performing,

Some average players have a good agent who can get them over the top wages, maybe we have some overpaid average players in the squad.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 08, 2019, 17:32:03 pm
Pro deals for Jay Williams and Cam McWilliams?


Yep


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 08, 2019, 17:36:20 pm
Great job to tie those two down.

Now lets give them some more first team minutes.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 08, 2019, 17:55:43 pm
maybe we have some overpaid average players in the squad.

yep i think that is pretty clear.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: In and out on January 08, 2019, 20:26:33 pm
Heard a rumour about Chris Long today, currently at Fleetwood


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 08, 2019, 20:28:35 pm
Heard a rumour about Chris Long today, currently at Fleetwood
and?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 08, 2019, 20:52:48 pm
Heard a rumour about Chris Long today, currently at Fleetwood

Loan to Fleetwood cancelled tonight with a view to going somewhere else.

I'd certainly have him back here


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 08, 2019, 20:55:05 pm
Loan to Fleetwood cancelled tonight with a view to going somewhere else.

If certainly have him back here

Sounds like he is Blackpool bound


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 08, 2019, 21:02:48 pm
Loan to Fleetwood cancelled tonight with a view to going somewhere else.

If certainly have him back here
He was a permanent signing.Let go after only six months into a two year deal.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 08, 2019, 21:05:02 pm
He was a permanent signing.Let go after only six months into a two year deal.

Yes so I see, confirmed signed for Blackpool on a deal till the end of the season


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 08, 2019, 21:12:01 pm
Yes so I see, confirmed signed for Blackpool on a deal till the end of the season

The basketcase Blackpool FC...signing experienced players on contracts? Who would have thought it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 08, 2019, 21:49:35 pm
I donít think long term that loans are a great thing but we are near the bottom of L2, Blackpool are L1, who the hell (especially if it seems we are offering crap wages now) is gonna want to sign here!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 08, 2019, 22:46:43 pm
I donít think long term that loans are a great thing but we are near the bottom of L2, Blackpool are L1, who the hell (especially if it seems we are offering crap wages now) is gonna want to sign here!

Catch 22 then.....who the hell is going to want our underperforming players, yet unless a few more go I don't think anyone of any consequence will come in.

Making the budget more realistic could involve slashing a player budget that was circa 2.3 million last season down to around 1.5 million. a 33% cut is going to have all sorts of effects.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 09, 2019, 12:43:34 pm
One or two twitter rumours circulating that we may be one of a number of clubs possibly in for Tranmere defender Liam Ridehalgh - unsure if there is any substance here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 09, 2019, 13:42:24 pm
One or two twitter rumours circulating that we may be one of a number of clubs possibly in for Tranmere defender Liam Ridehalgh - unsure if there is any substance here.

Their fans speak very highly of him 🙄. Got sent off in the playoff final after 14 seconds. Having said that heís bound to be better than what weíve already got.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 09, 2019, 13:55:43 pm
A Carlisle fan suggested we may be one of a few clubs interested in Ashley Nadesan who has just finished a loan spell at Carlisle for the second time. Pacey striker apparently, Carlisle fans seen to rate him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 09, 2019, 18:09:54 pm
Sam Slocombe in on loan from Bristol Rovers?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 09, 2019, 18:44:43 pm
Sam Slocombe in on loan from Bristol Rovers?

Or Adam smith - they certainly look like theyíre going to loan one of them out. Having said that I donít think goalkeeper is at the top of our list of priorities.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 09, 2019, 18:51:13 pm
Or Adam smith - they certainly look like theyíre going to loan one of them out. Having said that I donít think goalkeeper is at the top of our list of priorities.
Second top  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 09, 2019, 19:18:52 pm
Or Adam smith - they certainly look like theyíre going to loan one of them out. Having said that I donít think goalkeeper is at the top of our list of priorities.
Here we go...ding ding, Round 2!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 09, 2019, 21:06:06 pm
Pierre out?  :(

www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/09/por-chase-on-for-northampton-ace-pierre/



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 09, 2019, 21:12:22 pm
Or Adam smith - they certainly look like theyíre going to loan one of them out. Having said that I donít think goalkeeper is at the top of our list of priorities.
Donít mention the war Pike ...... I mean goalkeeper


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 09, 2019, 22:42:45 pm
Pierre out?  :(

www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/09/por-chase-on-for-northampton-ace-pierre/



Sigh!

You just know we'll sell to the first bidder for pennies & omit any sell on...

Meanwhile, Ash (I'm too good for L2 & my form ain't dipped) Taylor will no doubt remain as our first choice CB...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 09, 2019, 22:53:06 pm
I think it would be suicide if we got rid of Pierre or crooks - KT has got to tread very carefully when looking to ďbalance the booksĒ.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 09, 2019, 23:00:00 pm
Pierre out?  :(

www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/09/por-chase-on-for-northampton-ace-pierre/


Hitc are hardly a reliable source - 9 months ago they were trumpeting that QPR were interested in Taylor!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 10, 2019, 09:01:39 am
Hitc are hardly a reliable source - 9 months ago they were trumpeting that QPR were interested in Taylor!
True...But SportsPete has tweeted the same and he is usually not too far off the mark


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 10, 2019, 10:09:32 am
In other news Crooks to Rotherham may have some legs  :o


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 10:44:33 am
KT and DB might be many things but they donít strike me as stupid people - it doesnít take a rocket scientist to deduce that if we lose Pierre and crooks (and replace them with completely untried prem/championship youngsters or over the hill Carlisle castoffs) we will likely keep losing, fall further down the league, fans will become very restless and the anger will be directed to KT and DB. Having said that neither of them are based in this country so the ire will fall on James whiting.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 10, 2019, 11:12:02 am
True...But SportsPete has tweeted the same and he is usually not too far off the mark
He is not usually of the mark though in this case he is quoting HITC as his source. Hope this has no legs.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: meccanostand on January 10, 2019, 11:47:15 am
Hardly surprising that clubs are looking at quality players at a club that has to balance its books is it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 12:07:45 pm
I know that ďhousekeepingĒ and ďbalancing the booksĒ have become the buzz words (repeated ad nauseum in every interview) but KT would do well to look to address the majority of this in the summer when hopefully we are safe and we can look at a new start. The risks of a fire sale in January when we are in shocking form and dropping like a stone are there for all to see (I just hope that KC isnít too blinkered to realise that we can easily get sucked into a relegation battle).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 10, 2019, 12:12:49 pm
I don't think for a moment it will happen, but if we lost Pierre and Crooks and Van Veen without equal replacement then it would be the worst transfer window I ever remember happening.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 12:25:11 pm
From Curle's point of view though - Even our better players are extremely inconsistent.

The one and only exception to that is Turnbull over recent (unless you count Hoskins who is consistently useless of course)

So from his point of view (I have no idea what Pierre and Crooks are on moneywise) - but lets say a combined 8K/9K a week.

Maybe just maybe KC thinks he can use that 8K a week more wisely and get maybe 4 players in (some of whom maybe more consistent) 

I've said before for the first time in my memory I would not be too disappointed if any particular member of this squad left as none of them are irreplaceable. The issue maybe more the ability to bring in quality in the January market.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 12:40:33 pm
From Curle's point of view though - Even our better players are extremely inconsistent.

The one and only exception to that is Turnbull over recent (unless you count Hoskins who is consistently useless of course)

So from his point of view (I have no idea what Pierre and Crooks are on moneywise) - but lets say a combined 8K/9K a week.

Maybe just maybe KC thinks he can use that 8K a week more wisely and get maybe 4 players in (some of whom maybe more consistent) 

I've said before for the first time in my memory I would not be too disappointed if any particular member of this squad left as none of them are irreplaceable. The issue maybe more the ability to bring in quality in the January market.

I agree with that to an extent, and there isnít a single player who hasnít been inconsistent this season, but if we were to lose Pierre it rips the heart out of our already creaking defence and take crooks out and the creativity goes completely - there is no way that KC would be able to replace either adequately. I notice that KC is urging crooks to play in a more advanced position to capitalise on his creativity but Iím sure he hasnít been dropping back in the grimes ďquarterbackĒ position on his own volition - the reason heís been so deep is that KC is insisting on this playing out from the back and crooks is about the only player weíve got who is confident on the ball.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2019, 12:49:05 pm
I don't think for a moment it will happen, but if we lost Pierre and Crooks and Van Veen without equal replacement then it would be the worst transfer window I ever remember happening.

This sums up my thoughts entirely.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 10, 2019, 13:22:35 pm
This sums up my thoughts entirely.

our form over the last 2 years means i would be happy for any of the players to leave - they are all either not good enough, or dont have the character and desire



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 13:43:07 pm
our form over the last 2 years means i would be happy for any of the players to leave - they are all either not good enough, or dont have the character and desire



Agree, in some ways the more that go that better. Crooks only turns up and looks intrested and is fit about 25% of the time. For someone who makes up a big percentage of our wage bill that is criminal.

Yes Pierre is one of the better ones of a really bad bunch. But are you seriously trying to tell me hie is not replaceable and you could replace him on about 50% of what we pay him I bet without too much bother.

Let's get some perseptive here, this bunch of players are not good enough or do not want to be here or both.

I've said it since last summer the bigger the turnover of players the better. We need to start again.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 10, 2019, 13:48:56 pm
I find it hard to believe that anyone has a major problem with any of the players who've been here for the last 12-24 months leaving.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 10, 2019, 13:55:51 pm
Agree, in some ways the more that go that better. Crooks only turns up and looks intrested and is for about 25% of the time. For someone who makes up a big percentage of our wage bill that is criminal.

Yes Pierre is one of the better ones of a really bad bunch. But are you seriously trying to tell me his not replaceable and you could replace him on about 50% of what we pay him I bet without too much bother.

Let's get some perseptive here, this bunch of players are not good enough or do not want to be here or both.

I've said it since last summer the bigger the turnover of players the better. We need to start again.

If we lose VV, Crooks and Pierre thatís probably our three best players and around half our goals and they wonít be replaced by equal standard players.

The rest of the squad maybe with the exception of Turnbull is utter garbage and conference standard at best. If Crooks & Pierre go why even bother anymore.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 10, 2019, 14:11:11 pm
The business done in this window will either mean us languishing in mid table mediocrity (which I'd be more than happy with given our current form/apathy around the whole Club and at leaset the youngsters should get more game time once we're safe ) or it'll be another relegation dogfight where our nine lives may finally run out...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 14:12:52 pm
If we lose VV, Crooks and Pierre thatís probably our three best players and around half our goals and they wonít be replaced by equal standard players.

The rest of the squad maybe with the exception of Turnbull is utter garbage and conference standard at best. If Crooks & Pierre go why even bother anymore.

I think thatís what they arenít getting - I appreciate the sentiment of the get rid of them all brigade but if the only quality players that we have are sold with inadequate replacements made and we continue to struggle are they going to give KC time and patience as we spiral ever closer to the drop zone?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 14:23:48 pm
If we lose VV, Crooks and Pierre thatís probably our three best players and around half our goals and they wonít be replaced by equal standard players.

The rest of the squad maybe with the exception of Turnbull is utter garbage and conference standard at best. If Crooks & Pierre go why even bother anymore.

Because neither of these two are really that good or anywhere near consistantant enough to command the wages that are.

Who's to say we cant/won't get better in?



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 10, 2019, 14:34:16 pm
The reason we are poor at the moment is because of the two full (wing) backs and two wingers NOT VV, Crooks and Pierre!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 14:42:25 pm
Because neither of these two are really that good or anywhere near consistantant enough to command the wages that are.

Who's to say we cant/won't get better in?



Do you seriously believe that last line?! I agree with the previous poster - a lot of the problems we have are due to our lack of consistency in the wide attacking positions and lack of decent fullbacks/wingbacks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 14:52:33 pm
If we lose VV, Crooks and Pierre thatís probably our three best players and around half our goals and they wonít be replaced by equal standard players.

The rest of the squad maybe with the exception of Turnbull is utter garbage and conference standard at best. If Crooks & Pierre go why even bother anymore.

I find that hard to believe both Pierre and Crooks are not replaceable; perhaps Crooks less so and vV even more.
To describe players as garbage even as expressed as an opinion is incorrect. If we can get money for them and bring in suitable replacements then it might work ok. Whatever the reason this group of players over the past 12 months have failed and as a result at least two managers have lost their jobs.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 14:54:37 pm
Do you seriously believe that last line?! I agree with the previous poster - a lot of the problems we have are due to our lack of consistency in the wide attacking positions and lack of decent fullbacks/wingbacks.

Agree the issue area (one of a few is wingbacks)

But anyone who thinks Crooks constantly performs is kidding themselves - lets be honest the majority of the time he doesn't look interested - for someone on around 5K that's not good enough.

Pierre is a decent league 2 centre back no more no less  - we have had better in the past and will have better in the future.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 10, 2019, 15:16:19 pm
Agree the issue area (one of a few is wingbacks)

But anyone who thinks Crooks constantly performs is kidding themselves - lets be honest the majority of the time he doesn't look interested - for someone on around 5K that's not good enough.

Pierre is a decent league 2 centre back no more no less  - we have had better in the past and will have better in the future.

I agree entirely that crooks is inconsistent - if he was the finished article he wouldnít be here - but he has more ability than the rest of the midfield put together. I think youíre being a bit unfair about Pierre, granted he took a long while to live up to his billing but I guarantee that at 25 he will play at league 1 level (at least) in the future.  As for the wages, I donít want to get bogged down in the conjecture and guesswork again but I can categorically state that crooks is on nowhere near £5k a week which makes me surprised that he hasnít been snapped up before now.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 10, 2019, 15:38:25 pm
I have no idea what Pierre and Crooks are on moneywise



for someone on around 5K that's not good enough.

You gotta love fantasy football. ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wellycobb on January 10, 2019, 15:53:55 pm
Iím hearing that Sam Hoskins is about to sign a 5 year contract extension...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 16:12:10 pm


You gotta love fantasy football. ::)

Like I said no idea what has on, but it must be a fair whack as the lad left Rangers to come here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 10, 2019, 16:19:17 pm
Iím hearing that Sam Hoskins is about to sign a 5 year contract extension...
Pull the other one!!!!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 10, 2019, 16:25:32 pm
Honestly, the whole "Crooks doesn't look interested most of the time" line is the laziest of analysis. Yes, he has a very languid style but that is who he is and how he plays.

To say Crooks is less interested in trying/winning than, for example Buchanan, Foley, Hoskins or A.Williams on the basis they either run around a lot or show plenty of "pashun", or both is misguided at best.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 16:28:39 pm
Like I said no idea what has on, but it must be a fair whack as the lad left Rangers to come here.

Then why make it up? I suppose I can't blame you when I look at brexit/trump, you can make anything up and get away with it.

Also people saying that Crooks isn't consistant enough. When he's good he's on another level and when he's not he's still as good compared to most. It's League Two!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 10, 2019, 16:33:17 pm
1/3 of the window gone.

Cox in.
van out
Kasim shake it all about.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 10, 2019, 16:45:16 pm
but I guarantee that at 25 he will play at league 1 level (at least) in the future.
As for the wages, I donít want to get bogged down in the conjecture and guesswork again but I can categorically state that crooks is on nowhere near £5k a week which makes me surprised that he hasnít been snapped up before now.

pierre has already played in league 1 with us - i would make it a fair assumption that he will again - not with us though.

crooks - tell his tax return


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 17:05:32 pm
Then why make it up? I suppose I can't blame you when I look at brexit/trump, you can make anything up and get away with it.

Also people saying that Crooks isn't consistant enough. When he's good he's on another level and when he's not he's still as good compared to most. It's League Two!

Call it an educated guess, he'd be on good money at Rangers and would not have taken a cut to come to us. Yes it's lg2 but whatever his wage and you like me are guessing for sure. But it will be more (far more) than most lg2 fotballers. I got one would expect a better return (more consistant)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 10, 2019, 17:10:44 pm
Call it an educated guess, he'd be on good money at Rangers and would not have taken a cut to come to us.

Twaddle.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 17:30:54 pm
Call it an educated guess, he'd be on good money at Rangers and would not have taken a cut to come to us. Yes it's lg2 but whatever his wage and you like me are guessing for sure. But it will be more (far more) than most lg2 fotballers. I got one would expect a better return (more consistant)

Except I'm not guessing. Or making up numbers.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 10, 2019, 17:36:33 pm
Pierre is a decent league 2 centre back no more no less  - we have had better in the past and will have better in the future.

You can't believe this surely? The guy is, in my opinion, easily our most consistent performer week in week out - and in all likelihood our best player too. There's a reason much bigger clubs than us have / are looking at him. He's a fantastic centre back for this level - quick, very strong, dominant in the air, reads danger well, can play on the ground (albeit not quite as well as Turnbull), and is a goal threat on top of all that. Him and Turnbull make Taylor look like he should be playing for a team like Kettering (well....). IMO we should sign up Pierre and Turnbull for as long as possible and let them develop a partnership capable of taking us out of the division next season (requires better teammates around them mind). 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 17:37:00 pm
Except I'm not guessing. Or making up numbers.

Of course your not 😉😉😉


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 10, 2019, 17:40:14 pm
Honestly, the whole "Crooks doesn't look interested most of the time" line is the laziest of analysis. Yes, he has a very languid style but that is who he is and how he plays.

To say Crooks is less interested in trying/winning than, for example Buchanan, Foley, Hoskins or A.Williams on the basis they either run around a lot or show plenty of "pashun", or both is misguided at best.

This exactly. If we had three Crooks in the middle of the park in our current formation, I believe we would outplay and usually beat 90% of teams in our division. He is a class above this league.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 17:44:04 pm
You can't believe this surely? The guy is, in my opinion, easily our most consistent performer week in week out - and in all likelihood our best player too. There's a reason much bigger clubs than us have / are looking at him! He's a fantastic centre back for this level - quick, very strong, dominant in the air, reads danger well, can play on the ground (albeit not quite as well as Turnbull), and is a goal threat on top of all that! Him and Turnbull make Taylor look like he should be playing for a team like Kettering (well....). IMO we should sign up Pierre and Turnbull for as long as possible and let them develop a partnership capable of taking us out of the division next season (requires better teammates around them mind). 

Yes agree he is one of our better player, but look his never played above lg2 (other than half a season with us). Bristol City has him in trail for a month and didn't fancy him at the end of it. Yes he is decent enough at this level but if anyone really fancied him get have gone in the summer.

You watch him leave for a championship club now 😉😂



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 17:47:03 pm
Iím hearing that Sam Hoskins is about to sign a 5 year contract extension...

 ;D ;D  Thats worth a few laughs in anybody's books ;D

More please


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 17:48:28 pm
This exactly. If we had three Crooks in the middle of the park in our current formation, I believe we would outplay and usually beat 90% of teams in our division. He is a class above this league.


Why is he still here then??

How come no one came in for him in the summer?

He is without doubt our best and most creative player in the middle of the park, but he only turns up and plays 1 in every 4 or 5 games. He is a luxury type player and is that something we can afford?

I think people sit and look at the current squad and think can we afford to lose him, but who knows what plans KC has going forward


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 17:49:58 pm
The reason we are poor at the moment is because of the two full (wing) backs and two wingers NOT VV, Crooks and Pierre!

You have forgotten Cornell.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 17:59:37 pm
Honestly, the whole "Crooks doesn't look interested most of the time" line is the laziest of analysis. Yes, he has a very languid style but that is who he is and how he plays.

To say Crooks is less interested in trying/winning than, for example Buchanan, Foley, Hoskins or A.Williams on the basis they either run around a lot or show plenty of "pashun", or both is misguided at best.

Pretty correct analysis. Many of Glasto's arguments are so subjective that they become laughable.I would not like to be in the same Debating Team as him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 18:00:48 pm
Pretty correct analysis. Many of Glasto's arguments are so subjective that they become laughable.I would not like to be in the same Debating Team as him.

Rich coming from you, thought you'd grown up a big reacently but clearly not!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 10, 2019, 18:04:13 pm
Yes agree he is one of our better player, but look his never played above lg2 (other than half a season with us). Bristol City has him in trail for a month and didn't fancy him at the end of it. Yes he is decent enough at this level but if anyone really fancied him get have gone in the summer.

You watch him leave for a championship club now



I think Pierre wouldn't look out of place whatsoever in a Championship team, he has everything needed to make it there. I don't agree with you about Crooks either, that 'he only turns up and plays 1 in every 4 or 5 games' - maybe fairer to say that he plays well for every game he doesn't. I'd certainly take that over the good games ratio of many other attacking players in that team - what about Bowditch, Powell, Hoskins (shudder), Waters, even Morias? How many games do they saunter through before having a real impact? We only criticise Crooks because we place so much expectation on him to come up with the goods as we know he is much better than most of the rest we have.

Playing alongside better players and in a position / system that got the best out of him I think Crooks would be leading the division assists charts. We have to keep hold of our best players!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 10, 2019, 18:16:43 pm
I think Pierre wouldn't look out of place whatsoever in a Championship team, he has everything needed to make it there. I don't agree with you about Crooks either, that 'he only turns up and plays 1 in every 4 or 5 games' - maybe fairer to say that he plays well for every game he doesn't. I'd certainly take that over the good games ratio of many other attacking players in that team - what about Bowditch, Powell, Hoskins (shudder), Waters, even Morias? How many games do they saunter through before having a real impact? We only criticise Crooks because we place so much expectation on him to come up with the goods as we know he is much better than most of the rest we have.

Playing alongside better players and in a position / system that got the best out of him I think Crooks would be leading the division assists charts. We have to keep hold of our best players!

Maybe my thoughts on Pierre are a little harsh.

I think the thing I find myself questioning is so players offer value for money and personally  I don't think Crooks does. Maybe those ITK can give us a better idea of what he earns if 5k is so far off the mark.

The Carlisle fan has already told us that no one at Carlisle is on more than 1.5k and I know that no one at Yeovil is on more than that either (maybe Yeovil is a bad example given there decent performance against us and league position) but you can guarantee its a world away from our wages.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 10, 2019, 18:21:19 pm
You have forgotten Cornell.
No I have not!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 18:22:30 pm
Sticking to the theme and spirit of this thread I learnt today from a ultra reliable source that two offers for Cornell have been received.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 10, 2019, 18:34:23 pm
Maybe my thoughts on Pierre are a little harsh.

I think the thing I find myself questioning is so players offer value for money and personally  I don't think Crooks does. Maybe those ITK can give us a better idea of what he earns if 5k is so far off the mark.

The Carlisle fan has already told us that no one at Carlisle is on more than 1.5k and I know that no one at Yeovil is on more than that either (maybe Yeovil is a bad example given there decent performance against us and league position) but you can guarantee its a world away from our wages.

I understand the angle that you are coming from but if we are thinking about value for wages in terms of match contribution then surely we need to keep hold of him. I'd imagine if you were to take two out of the players that I mentioned in my last post, they would have wages that amount to Crooks' wages (if that is the case that he is on big money here). We have to have an eye on the future with building a talented squad for next season and if I was KC and had to do some 'housekeeping', I'd be doing my utmost not to flog the calibre of players we would struggle to acquire in the summer. Let the others go and put the youth team grads / prospects in their place on the bench.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 10, 2019, 18:40:07 pm
Sticking to the theme and spirit of this thread I learnt today from a ultra reliable source that two offers for Cornell have been received.
Apparently one is for a painting and decorating job and the other was in a warehouse  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 10, 2019, 19:04:12 pm
Apparently one is for a painting and decorating job and the other was in a warehouse  ;D

He is not qualified for either job. Still as always your sources are far better than mine.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lodgeadam on January 10, 2019, 19:37:33 pm
Honestly, the whole "Crooks doesn't look interested most of the time" line is the laziest of analysis. Yes, he has a very languid style but that is who he is and how he plays.

To say Crooks is less interested in trying/winning than, for example Buchanan, Foley, Hoskins or A.Williams on the basis they either run around a lot or show plenty of "pashun", or both is misguided at best.

You start this post criticising those who say Crooks Ďlooksí disinterested and then you go on to justify why they are right - Ďhe has a very languid styleí. Strange approach to a disagreement.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 10, 2019, 20:38:20 pm
Whatever you may think about the commitment of the likes of Crooks and Van Veen, they are players that make a difference and win games .
We are better off with them than without them.
We have no other players that can turn a game in the same way .
The problem is , I think the board directors want to recover cash and save cost . I think they are happy if we just survive because the club is worth less if we have a crippling wage bill beyond our means.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2019, 21:34:25 pm
Sticking to the theme and spirit of this thread I learnt today from a ultra reliable source that two offers for Cornell have been received.

This would make my life. So I never have to read about him again  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 10, 2019, 21:38:01 pm
This would make my life. So I never have to read about him again  ;D

I heard be got sent the contract via email. Couldn't save the document though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 10, 2019, 22:03:06 pm
Sticking to the theme and spirit of this thread I learnt today from a ultra reliable source that two offers for Cornell have been received.

surely not, he's been the fault of every goal conceded this season  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 10, 2019, 23:13:51 pm
Whatever you may think about the commitment of the likes of Crooks and Van Veen, they are players that make a difference and win games .
We are better off with them than without them.
We have no other players that can turn a game in the same way .
The problem is , I think the board directors want to recover cash and save cost . I think they are happy if we just survive because the club is worth less if we have a crippling wage bill beyond our means.


Completely agree


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 11, 2019, 00:44:36 am
Crooks, Pierre and JJOT rumours now.
KT is really trying to save some coin


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 11, 2019, 01:44:00 am
Whatever you may think about the commitment of the likes of Crooks and Van Veen, they are players that make a difference and win games .
We are better off with them than without them.
We have no other players that can turn a game in the same way .
The problem is , I think the board directors want to recover cash and save cost . I think they are happy if we just survive because the club is worth less if we have a crippling wage bill beyond our means.


They are both players that require the likes of Hoskins to run his socks off, to drag the opposition left, right & centre, in order to give them a bit of time on the ball.

They are luxury players who no League 2 team needs, and all can do without.

Can you see either playing for Lincoln?

Ha!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest170 on January 11, 2019, 07:40:31 am
Crooks, Pierre and JJOT rumours now.
KT is really trying to save some coin
Same rumours as the last 2 transfer windows then. Will be correct one day


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 11, 2019, 08:25:22 am
Whatever you may think about the commitment of the likes of Crooks and Van Veen, they are players that make a difference and win games .

1 win in 14 now is it?

how many games have either of them actually 'won' for us.

ricky holmes is a player that won us games - neither of these players will (or would have in KVV case) come close to being fit to tie holmes shoelaces for him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Hask on January 11, 2019, 08:51:11 am
Crooks, Pierre and JJOT rumours now.
KT is really trying to save some coin

For what he is getting for his money i don't blame him

At least the retention list should be nice and low this May.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 09:00:40 am
1 win in 14 now is it?

how many games have either of them actually 'won' for us.

ricky holmes is a player that won us games - neither of these players will (or would have in KVV case) come close to being fit to tie holmes shoelaces for him.
Both players have won a damn sight more games for us this season than anyone else thatís for sure .
Wait to see how many games we win if Crooks and Pierre go .
Rumours about JJOT ? No one will touch him while he is injured .
I think his time with us has come to an end regardless though , sadly.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Battery Man on January 11, 2019, 09:24:01 am
I would like to see Crooks stay but only if he can be playing in the more advanced role in Midfield not sitting deep. As for the rest of the squad I wouldn't be unhappy to lose 7 from the squad with maybe 2 or 3 coming in. The 7 I would move out would be

Facey - doesn't do enough for me
Buchanan - Been a great player but seems to slow now
Taylor - Think he spends too much time blaming others for mistakes.
O'Toole - Been a a great player but think his time with us is up
Hoskins - No end product
Bowditch - Never gets a long enough run and doesn't justify his place when he plays
Waters - Doesn't seem to fit in well when he plays

The 2 or 3 in I would like to see a Central Defender, Holding Midfielder and a striker who knows where the net is regularly.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 10:35:36 am
I would like to see Crooks stay but only if he can be playing in the more advanced role in Midfield not sitting deep. As for the rest of the squad I wouldn't be unhappy to lose 7 from the squad with maybe 2 or 3 coming in. The 7 I would move out would be

Facey - doesn't do enough for me
Buchanan - Been a great player but seems to slow now
Taylor - Think he spends too much time blaming others for mistakes.
O'Toole - Been a a great player but think his time with us is up
Hoskins - No end product
Bowditch - Never gets a long enough run and doesn't justify his place when he plays
Waters - Doesn't seem to fit in well when he plays

The 2 or 3 in I would like to see a Central Defender, Holding Midfielder and a striker who knows where the net is regularly.

I would agree with the above except I would add Powell to the list . Itís no good having a player that turns it on one game in ten.
I would keep Hoskins and use him as an impact player .
Coddington can also go .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 10:39:03 am
You start this post criticising those who say Crooks Ďlooksí disinterested and then you go on to justify why they are right - Ďhe has a very languid styleí. Strange approach to a disagreement.

Perhaps I should have used 'languid appearance' rather than style. The point is that there are fans that often look at how much someone runs around and shouts as direct indication of how much they want to win / care, which frankly is a load of nonsense.

I don't care if people don't think Crooks is good enough as a player. I find it hard to argue for any of our current squad given what has been served up the last couple of years but the whole 'he doesn't care / try / isn't interested' view is lazy at best.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 11, 2019, 10:48:33 am
Outgoing!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 11, 2019, 10:54:41 am
Outgoing!

Loan or Permanent?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 10:55:32 am
Bye Dai :(


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 11, 2019, 11:06:15 am
Loan or Permanent?
Permanent


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 11, 2019, 11:14:27 am
Permanent

Iíll guess Waters?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 11:16:40 am
Canít we have a name - if itís a done deal thereís not going to be an issue?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2019, 11:16:49 am
Permanent

Crooks?
Pierre?
JJOT?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 11, 2019, 11:18:03 am
Crooks?
Pierre?
JJOT?

If it is Pierre I am going to throw a fit.  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 11, 2019, 11:19:57 am
Canít we have a name - if itís a done deal thereís not going to be an issue?
Given names before. It seems to upset some so I will refrain. Should think the official announcement will come shortly.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 11:25:13 am
Given names before. It seems to upset some so I will refrain. Should think the official announcement will come shortly.
Well said Mathius


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 11:27:15 am
Pierre is probably the only one I would be overly disappointed at...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 11:29:55 am
Given names before. It seems to upset some so I will refrain. Should think the official announcement will come shortly.

Please be Ash Taylor! 

Money on Crooks or Pierre though...

Is there an "undisclosed" fee involved?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 11:37:48 am
Given names before. It seems to upset some so I will refrain. Should think the official announcement will come shortly.

Surely you can say if it is an established first teamer or a squad player?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 11, 2019, 11:40:02 am
Please be Ash Taylor! 

Money on Crooks or Pierre though...

Is there an "undisclosed" fee involved?

There will always be an undisclosed Fee,

NTFC "Can we have your player for 50k"
Club 2 "No 75k"
NTFC "We dont have 75k"
Club 2 "You litertally advertised the fact you got 125k for Matt Crooks yesterday."

Appeasing the fans results in sacking managers and desperate signings on inflated contracts. If I was KT I would stick to those around me, Not saying all of the manager sackings were bad ideas but they are the reason for our financial issues ATM.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 11, 2019, 11:48:27 am
Pierre is probably the only one I would be overly disappointed at...
Then you won't be.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 11, 2019, 11:52:42 am
Then you won't be.

Good news at least.

First eleven player or in the 18?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 11:52:54 am
Then you won't be.

So perhaps Rotherham back in for Crooks, Port Vale back in for Waters (or perhaps Chelts or Cambridge) or someone in for JJOT....least Pierre ain't off....just yet!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Cordwainer2 on January 11, 2019, 12:15:06 pm
Nearly 2 weeks into the transfer window, we have sold our top scorer and acquired a left back! Doesn't sound very promising to me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 12:32:51 pm
Nearly 2 weeks into the transfer window, we have sold our top scorer and acquired a left back! Doesn't sound very promising to me.

Early days yet......no need to rush, blah blah blah!  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 12:38:57 pm
Nearly 2 weeks into the transfer window, we have sold our top scorer and acquired a left back! Doesn't sound very promising to me.

By the sounds of it give it a few hours and you can add losing our most creative midfielder to that list (although I live in hope that it will be the loss of a non scoring forward/right winger/right wing back).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 12:42:58 pm
Permanent

Hope it is. Need players off the payroll permanently, so KC can bring in his own signings...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: West Stand on January 11, 2019, 13:23:24 pm
Player returning to their former club.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 11, 2019, 13:25:30 pm
Given names before. It seems to upset some so I will refrain. Should think the official announcement will come shortly.

You only take stick when it turns out you're posting s***e. Odds are there will be ins and outs so "Outgoing" isn't really much of a revelation. If you actually "know" something as fact, then just state it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 13:26:06 pm
Player returning to their former club.

Hopefully Waters to Cheltenham but you can guarantee heíll turn into a goal machine (I wouldnít have thought rangers would want crooks back - Pierre back to Wycombe is unlikely?).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 13:30:46 pm
Player returning to their former club.

If it is Waters, it needs to be a permanent, as he's still got another 18 months on his contract with us...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 13:33:47 pm
Talk about drip feeding information.........


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 11, 2019, 13:52:57 pm
Yes but he has a point. I had a contact in the club and posted info on here. Some happened some fell through. In the end it's not worth it. Also constantly asked "source". Sure I am going to get him the sack. He doesn't work there By more so source is no more


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 13:59:53 pm
Pity those who bought official NTFC calendars!  :'(


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 14:01:45 pm
People are reluctant to put information on here because all you get is abuse , which is a shame because itís good to get an inside track sometimes .
Itís football - a lot of things change very quickly and not all things come off .
Management also donít tell the truth in public *shock *


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 14:03:48 pm
can't see it being Waters unless we are giving him away, according to press articles Cheltenham have no cash for transfers


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:11:09 pm
Pity those who bought official NTFC calendars!  :'(

Maybe they are in the Club Shops recently advertised 30% off sale...........they'll probably have had 30% of the pages missing soon!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cj on January 11, 2019, 14:15:58 pm
Let's hope it's not Turnbull back to Cov.
Ward or Waters would be better.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Quintonside on January 11, 2019, 14:22:18 pm
Its probably Facey back to Man City ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:22:53 pm
Its probably Facey back to Man City ;D
;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 14:31:57 pm
So, it's a bloody loan only - Waters - Chelts til end of season

No mention of a possible perm deal at end of season  ::)

Good luck Billy, never really played as a striker by any of our managers...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 11, 2019, 14:34:11 pm
So, it's a bloody loan only - Waters - Chelts til end of season

No mention of a possible perm deal at end of season  ::)

Good luck Billy, never really played as a striker by any of our managers...

No real loss! Panic averted... for now


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 14:34:55 pm
Fair play to Billy, wants regular football and doesn't righty see himself as a wing back.  Presumably they are paying all or some of his wages, hopefully he scores a load of goals, we get him back or recoup the transfer fee  at the end of the season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:37:12 pm
Start of the week Curle backs his misfiring strikeforce, end of the week Curle allows Waters to go to Cheltenham on loan......!!

So two forward options removed from the squad in a week or so..... Hoskins may soon be the target man we all long for!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:41:33 pm
https://www.ctfc.com/news/2019/january/billy-waters-returns-to-cheltenham/


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:42:58 pm
Curle wonít have a big enough squad to rotate

Massive lack of ambition from NTFC


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:50:47 pm
Curle wonít have a big enough squad to rotate

Massive lack of ambition from NTFC

Let's give him a chance and see who he brings in shall we.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 14:51:28 pm
Curle wonít have a big enough squad to rotate

Massive lack of ambition from NTFC

come on, BW has been a bit part player for 18 months who was sent out on loan last season by a different manager.  How does sending on loan again equate to a 'massive lack of ambition'


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:53:53 pm
Let's give him a chance and see who he brings in shall we.
Crooks set to sign for Rotherham according to the Football league zone.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Quintonside on January 11, 2019, 14:55:58 pm
come on, BW has been a bit part player for 18 months who was sent out on loan last season by a different manager.  How does sending on loan again equate to a 'massive lack of ambition'

exactly!!

Can't believe letting someone, who never plays, leave on loan gets such a reaction.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:57:06 pm
come on, BW has been a bit part player for 18 months who was sent out on loan last season by a different manager.  How does sending on loan again equate to a 'massive lack of ambition'

The fact is that we have a game tomorrow and we have two fewer striking options than we had.

Yes the players have underperformed, and yes if they can be replaced then all well and good. But....they haven't been replaced yet!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 14:58:44 pm
exactly!!

Can't believe letting someone, who never plays, leave on loan gets such a reaction.

Never plays?? He has made 20 appearances this season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 11, 2019, 15:01:54 pm
Will be interesting to see if Cheltenham actually play Billy upfront, seeing as we don't seem to want to.

Still have Williams, Morias and Hoskins as striking options.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 11, 2019, 15:02:08 pm
Let's face it, Billy Waters is no big loss.

Shame we didn't get to see him up front ever though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 15:06:15 pm
Crooks set to sign for Rotherham according to the Football league zone.

Have they just retweeted this from the summer window?



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 15:09:42 pm
With Waters going we do look a bit thin up front now but then I don't think Curle would have played him upfront anyway, he was probably behind Morais, Williams, Hoskins, Bowditch and Powell in Curle's striker list.

It's a shame he didn't ever get a run of games in his favoured position with us, will be interesting to see how he gets on at a place he will feel comfortable at.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 11, 2019, 15:11:48 pm
come on, BW has been a bit part player for 18 months who was sent out on loan last season by a different manager.  How does sending on loan again equate to a 'massive lack of ambition'

I get so confused by our fans,

Is Joey Infancino about to come back off loan and score 20 goals or do we need experienced players ?

Do we need a massive clear out or is every player allowed to leave showing a lack of ambition ?

Is Curle playing **** long ball or are we suicidal to play out from the back ?

Everyone can have an opinion, but we do seem a bit Bipolar. Not pinning this on the OP BTW, just merely and example


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ed on January 11, 2019, 15:13:18 pm
VV and Crooks going will give us 200/250k and free up a good % of the wage bill... Hopefully KC will be given a decent amount to reinvest...

If not, In Hoskins We Trust.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 11, 2019, 15:15:17 pm
Waters is out of contract end of the season so I suspect this  move to Cheltenham mean we won't see him on claret and white again.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 15:18:28 pm
Waters is out of contract end of the season so I suspect this  move to Cheltenham mean we won't see him on claret and white again.

No he's not, signed a 3 year deal...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 15:24:27 pm
Will be interesting to see if Cheltenham actually play Billy upfront, seeing as we don't seem to want to.

Still have Williams, Morias and Hoskins as striking options.

Hoskins as a striking option?!!!

Take a gander at his scoring record.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 15:27:12 pm
No he's not, signed a 3 year deal...

Correct. I still think that we won't see him playing for us again though.


Good luck to the lad. Never played in his preferred position here. Good move for all parties.  



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 15:30:15 pm
Apologies if I missed it, but assume Waters going isn't the move Mathius was referring to? Are they waiting until commuting time to announce a permanent departure?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 15:37:44 pm
I think Waters is the departure he was referring to (at least I hope it is). Just imagine if there is legs to the crooks rumour and he isnít in the squad tomorrow, pair this up with the possibility that Andy Williams is still out and the phrase ďbare bonesĒ springs to mind.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 11, 2019, 15:42:58 pm
Permanent

This one could be Crooks?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 11, 2019, 15:43:31 pm
Pity to see the back of Waters. I can never actually remember him getting a game as a striker?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 11, 2019, 15:45:27 pm
Pity to see the back of Waters. I can never actually remember him getting a game as a striker?

The only one I can remember was when he played up front with Hoskins last season and we kept launching long balls up to them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 16:00:36 pm
Rumour mill in overtime about Crooks .
If we lose our two best players in a week with nothing coming in - it could get nasty tomorrow


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 16:07:44 pm
Further announcement at 5pm apparently......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 16:16:21 pm
Further announcement at 5pm apparently......

Where did you hear that from GPC?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 16:24:02 pm
Where did you hear that from GPC?

A mole!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 16:26:28 pm
Further announcement at 5pm apparently......

Is it naive to hope that it might be a player coming in?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 11, 2019, 16:33:29 pm
Very naive.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 11, 2019, 16:42:24 pm
Feels like Crooks to me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 11, 2019, 17:03:36 pm
No he's not, signed a 3 year deal...

the report disagrees

waters is **** - good riddance to a player i cannot believe we paid money for



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 17:06:17 pm
No news is good news?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 11, 2019, 17:20:57 pm
It's coming.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 17:24:22 pm
It's coming.

So is Christmas!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 17:37:22 pm
Rumour mill in overtime about Crooks .
If we lose our two best players in a week with nothing coming in - it could get nasty tomorrow

Not many people seem that bothered by Von Vein and I fail to see what Crooks brings to the team. Everytime I've seen him he's put in a 4 or 5 out of 10 performance. Him getting a move to the Championship is laughable.

I'll be honest, any player moving on from this squad wouldn't bother me one bit, we'd easily replace them with better and more competitive players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Patmore on January 11, 2019, 17:40:03 pm
Not many people seem that bothered by Von Vein and I fail to see what Crooks brings to the team. Everytime I've seen him he's put in a 4 or 5 out of 10 performance. Him getting a move to the Championship is laughable.

I'll be honest, any player moving on from this squad wouldn't bother me one bit, we'd easily replace them with better and more competitive players.

Yeah I agree. Why would we want all these players that muggy League 1 and Championship teams are keen to take off our hands 🙄


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 18:11:15 pm
Not many people seem that bothered by Von Vein and I fail to see what Crooks brings to the team. Everytime I've seen him he's put in a 4 or 5 out of 10 performance. Him getting a move to the Championship is laughable.

I'll be honest, any player moving on from this squad wouldn't bother me one bit, we'd easily replace them with better and more competitive players.

Can I be honest and say that no matter how bad people thought Van Veen was or how inconsistent Crooks is, id rather have them here than have nobody at all!! Thatís what I fear will happen!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 11, 2019, 18:22:43 pm
Can I be honest and say that no matter how bad people thought Van Veen was or how inconsistent Crooks is, id rather have them here than have nobody at all!! Thatís what I fear will happen!
It shouldnít come as a surprise though
The only reason we managed to sign better quality players was because we had extra investment.
When that shambles unraveled the current board were left with quality players on big wage packets.
Itís no wonder that now they are having to pick up the tab themselves that they are keen to offload them.
Itís surely obvious to anyone like myself with half a brain that the current board canít afford to sign that quality of player anymore.
The clue is in the fact that they needed outside investment to take us to the next level as they quoted at the time of the 5usports debacle.
A year on and the board have failed to get the extre investment to help them run the club.
No one actually knows what happened with 5usports.
Last we heard they were threatening to take the club to court.
Did 5usports invest?
Have the club had to pay them their money back?
Has anything gone to court or been settled out of court?
So many questions
Donít sports reporters ask questions anymore?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 18:27:43 pm
Can I be honest and say that no matter how bad people thought Van Veen was or how inconsistent Crooks is, id rather have them here than have nobody at all!! Thatís what I fear will happen!

Why not wait to see who KC has lined up to replace them before panicking! Lots of time left in the window.

One thing is clear the 99% of the players we have in the squad are not good enough, do not have the right attitude or do not justify what we pay them with anywhere near enough consistant performances.

The deadwood needa clearly and I'm really pleased KC has identified this and us doing the job that should have been done in the summer.

Now give the bloke a chance, because the chances are he will bring in better, more commited players on far less money.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 11, 2019, 18:32:47 pm
Cant we put a bid in for Hallam Hope give him a medical tonight and play him tomorrow after all he is in Northamptonshire tonight.  :P


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 11, 2019, 18:38:29 pm
Why not wait to see who KC has lined up to replace them before panicking! Lots of time left in the window.

One thing is clear the 99% of the players we have in the squad are not good enough, do not have the right attitude or do not justify what we pay them with anywhere near enough consistant performances.

The deadwood needa clearly and I'm really pleased KC has identified this and us doing the job that should have been done in the summer.

Now give the bloke a chance, because the chances are he will bring in better, more commited players on far less money.
our upcoming fixtures do look a bit daunting.
The next 5 games could see us getting very few points which will force us into panic buying.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 18:41:48 pm
Why not wait to see who KC has lined up to replace them before panicking! Lots of time left in the window.

One thing is clear the 99% of the players we have in the squad are not good enough, do not have the right attitude or do not justify what we pay them with anywhere near enough consistant performances.

The deadwood needa clearly and I'm really pleased KC has identified this and us doing the job that should have been done in the summer.

Now give the bloke a chance, because the chances are he will bring in better, more commited players on far less money.

Lots of players should go before we sell the few better ones like Crooks but we have to face it that few clubs would want our constant under-performers like Powell & Bowditch. I could add more names.  

The danger is selling a BMW and buying a second hand banger as the replacement.  It could be a hard road ahead if you will excuse the pun.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 11, 2019, 18:55:27 pm
More news at 7
Wonder what that could be......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 19:01:55 pm
Crooks gone, lucky we havenít got a match tomorrow or anything.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 11, 2019, 19:02:01 pm
Crooks to Rotherham
£whoknows


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 19:03:37 pm
Another chunk of goals gone, how many players do we have left that can score goals?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:04:16 pm
Never mind, he was sh1t anyway......

Wake up and smell the coffee Cobblers fans!

I might as well say that Iíve been told that we are losing 100k a month at present!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 11, 2019, 19:06:37 pm
The old balancing the books !!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 19:08:26 pm
Fair play to KT, he must have balls of steel - when we go a goal down tomorrow itís going to get tasty, having said that heís probably bottling it in Florida anyway.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 11, 2019, 19:08:59 pm
FFS! Well, that's two of our three best players gone this window. As with Van Veen, I'm sure it makes financial sense but not what you want to see from a fan's perspective.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Trickymicky on January 11, 2019, 19:11:17 pm
Crooks gone to Rotherham, letís look on the bright side......we still have Hoskins 😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:11:36 pm
FFS! Well, that's two of our three best players gone this window. As with Van Veen, I'm sure it makes financial sense but not what you want to see from a fan's perspective.

Calm down, calm down - read what Curley Wurley says short term pain long term gain. Some more deadwood gone, let's move forward


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 19:12:00 pm
Why not make the whole squad available for transfer if finances are that bad, we might get lucky and somebody might take a few of the rubbish players off are hands as well as losing the best ones.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:13:18 pm
One or two rumours on Twitter mentioning Peterbourgh Jermaine Anderson, think we may have been linked in the past?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 19:14:23 pm
No more ex Peterborough or MK Dons please.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:14:28 pm
KT please can I have my season ticket money back.  You were only ever here to make millions out of the land deal.

What a poxy football club with an embarrassing east stand and crap footballers

Once chance with stadium and team and we **** it up


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 19:15:11 pm
 IMO a quality player and way to good for league 2.  Not sure he will suit a struggling championship club, but look at Jacobs and crooks has the potential to be a far better


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 11, 2019, 19:16:09 pm
Yeah, they were the only two players with any creative ability in the team, unless there's some fantastic replacement it's really a fight against relegation now.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:17:15 pm
Yeah I agree. Why would we want all these players that muggy League 1 and Championship teams are keen to take off our hands 🙄

The money we've paid them and the return we got was no where near good enough. Same can be said with the majority of the squad we've had over the past 18 months.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 19:18:05 pm
Curle confirmed that we have a bid in for an unnamed player, but he won't pay over the odds for anybody.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 19:21:52 pm
Seriously though who in their right mind - of any vague quality - would sign for us at the moment?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:22:43 pm
Curle confirmed that we have a bid in for an unnamed player, but he won't pay over the odds for anybody.


Unnamed player.  Thatís good, at least we wonít have to put letters on the back of his shirt.  Maybe just a question mark


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:24:29 pm
34 goals scored by the team this season, Crooks, Van Veen and Waters contributed 15 of them between them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 11, 2019, 19:24:43 pm
That's the January players from the 2019 calendar gone.... who's on February...?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 11, 2019, 19:24:51 pm
Calm down, calm down - read what Curley Wurley says short term pain long term gain. Some more deadwood gone, let's move forward

Deadwood? Yeah, alright mate, whatever... ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 19:25:29 pm
One or two rumours on Twitter mentioning Peterbourgh Jermaine Anderson, think we may have been linked in the past?

Sent back to p**h early from his loan spell with Doncaster for a ďlack of fightĒ - sounds the ideal character to have in the trenches.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 19:26:09 pm
Somebody drop something  ;D

(https://www.funkypancake.com/blog/stuff3/DSC01157-thumb.jpg)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:37:10 pm
Deadwood? Yeah, alright mate, whatever... ::)

Are you seriously telling me he justified what were paying him.

Yes he was the most creative of our midfield, but that says more about just how bad the others are more than anything else.

To be paying 3-5k for someone that turns up and plays once a month is not good enough in my opion.

Compare him to someone like Martin Smith (who would have the same standing in the squad as crooks does presently) crooks us not for the lace smudgers boots.

Let's see what curle has in store shall we?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 11, 2019, 19:41:49 pm
The town are going down


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 19:44:28 pm
According to some crooks was lazy and useless yet as a result of us moving him we are doomed. Odd.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 19:47:51 pm
The town are going down

Slap some talc on your cheeks and snuggle down with a favourite blankie. You will feel better tomorrow at ten past three when we will have witnessed a quick fire hat trick from Hoskins  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 19:47:58 pm
Are you seriously telling me he justified what were paying him.

Yes he was the most creative of our midfield, but that says more about just how bad the others are more than anything else.

To be paying 3-5k for someone that turns up and plays once a month is not good enough in my opion.

Compare him to someone like Martin Smith (who would have the same standing in the squad as crooks does presently) crooks us not for the lace smudgers boots.

Let's see what curle has in store shall we?

Glasto, itís been a pretty sh**y day all in all and the prospect of tomorrow to come, is there any chance we can move away from the fantasy wages game - youíve already proved you havenít got a clue of the actual figures. For the last time no one is claiming that he was the second coming of Martin smith but he was our most talented player and one of the few that occasionally lit up the mediocrity. I agree that it all depends on what KC brings in but I wish I shared your optimism on the quality of replacements.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 11, 2019, 19:48:06 pm
According to some crooks was lazy and useless yet as a result of us moving him we are doomed. Odd.

Yep, lazy, useless, not fit to lace Smudger's boots - but curiously being bought by a team two divisions above us....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 19:49:11 pm
Slap some talc on your cheeks and snuggle down with a favourite blankie. You will feel better tomorrow at ten past three when we will have witnessed a quick fire hat trick from Hoskins  ;D

Very good Ron, made me chuckle


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 19:49:57 pm
According to some crooks was lazy and useless yet as a result of us moving him we are doomed. Odd.

The reality was somewhere in between. Underrated by some and the same time being overrated by others. He was OK but not the be all and end all.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 19:50:57 pm
Did we play and lose a game today?

Just wondered, because of the amount of doom-mongers on this forum tonight. Mostly the same ones that come out after a defeat.

It's the 11th January - has the transfer window closed?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: corno_ntfc on January 11, 2019, 19:52:01 pm
KC puts it well in his summary, if player valuations are met, then talks can happen.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 19:53:23 pm
A lot of our fans have called the players gutless. Boots on the other foot reading some over the top comments on here from some.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2019, 19:53:47 pm
Hope and am sure that he will do well. This will be a massive loss for us.

Looking forward to us investing the cash on new players as I'm sure that is what we can expect  :-\


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 11, 2019, 19:54:26 pm
Good move from KT.
Especially on the business front.
Frees up some cash.
My source has been 100% correct so far.
Next up...JJOT or Pierre?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 19:55:48 pm
KC puts it well in his summary, if player valuations are met, then talks can happen.
Surely now Pierre and Turnbull are the only players left in the squad with any monetary value whatsoever and the rest could happily leave on free transfers.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TownOwl on January 11, 2019, 19:58:55 pm
Signing Crooks was a huge coup at the time but we failed to get the best out of him.
Gutted he's gone as probably our most talented forward player.
That said, he's average League 1 and can't see him pulling up trees in a struggling Championship side.
Can accept he wanted to play at a higer level and can accept him going IF the money is invested in replacements.
Given a choice between keeping JJOT and Crooks, I'd want JJOT in this division every time. Don't understand the criticism of JJOT. He was poor last few games but was carrying injury and 1 yellow from a ban.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 11, 2019, 20:04:17 pm
Apologies if Iíve overreacted - Iíve calmed down a bit now and regained a bit of perspective (like I say itís been a sh** day on top of a cr** week for one reason or another!). After reading KCís well balanced interview it does make sense (to a degree) - itís likely to be short term pain before hopefully longer term gain. Hereís hoping we can pull off some kind of a result tomorrow.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 11, 2019, 20:07:54 pm
Apologies if Iíve overreacted - Iíve calmed down a bit now and regained a bit of perspective (like I say itís been a sh** day on top of a cr** week for one reason or another!). After reading KCís well balanced interview it does make sense (to a degree) - itís likely to be short term pain before hopefully longer term gain. Hereís hoping we can pull off some kind of a result tomorrow.

Defiantly if you read KC's but on the entire it makes sense and as you say long term gain for a bit of short term pain


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 11, 2019, 20:13:11 pm
I think we'll be in a relegation battle.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 11, 2019, 20:13:39 pm
I bet Ash Taylor is getting twitchy that nowt is happening for him at the moment on the transfer front.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 11, 2019, 20:14:35 pm
Glad Crooks has gone. He didn't put in the effort. Unless Rotherham have got him on a bargain basement fee they have f#cked up badly. We need to get rid of about 5 more now. The only issue is will KT and his mates fork out for some replacements? Personally I don't think they will. Based on the fact that I think he is in an asset-stripping exercise. I can't stand the guy.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 20:15:12 pm
Will be happier come the summer if we are still in league 2 and can really clear some of the deadwood. Would be amazed if anyone out of contract gets a new offer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 20:16:59 pm
KC also says they turned down a number of offers for him in this window....stupid other clubs, what do they know, heís useless, lazy, overrated blah blah blah.

Sounds obvious that clubs know we have a sale on, and Iím not talking about the one in the club shop!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 20:18:50 pm
I think we'll be in a relegation battle.

I don't. Not yet in any case. 9 points isn't it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 11, 2019, 20:19:54 pm
Apparently you can get a signed shirt for 20% of its value in the shop. Well over-priced.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 20:21:46 pm
I don't. Not yet in any case. 9 points isn't it?

And a game in hand.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 11, 2019, 20:23:09 pm
If Bowditch was to leave Iíd barely notice.
If Powell went Iíd only notice marginally more.
Iacifano no one really knows and as he has never dangered the first team despite lower league prolific record would anyone really notice.
Ward might as well go back to Reading if he hasnít already.
Bunney is as good as gone.
Waters as well.
Facey despite looking like a good signing is now looking a liability, out of contract at the end of the season.
Buchanan is a top club man but a spent force against anyone with pace.
OíToole is a shadow of the player he was. Heís not even nailing people with any frequency.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 20:25:00 pm
And a game in hand.

Yes Ron, and a game in hand.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 20:29:58 pm
We had 2 players that could make a difference - KvV and Crooks .
They are the only two other teams would fear and they have changed games this season.
Both are gone as the directors recover cash , reduce costs and slim the club down for future sale .
The football is dire and we have signed no one to make a difference.
Where on earth are we going as a club?
Itís desperate and I wouldnít be surprised if Pierre now goes and we get d*cked tomorrow .
The fans have a right to vent their anger - and it could turn nasty tomorrow


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 20:32:32 pm
If Bowditch was to leave Iíd barely notice.
If Powell went Iíd only notice marginally more.
Iacifano no one really knows and as he has never dangered the first team despite lower league prolific record would anyone really notice.
Ward might as well go back to Reading if he hasnít already.
Bunney is as good as gone.
Waters as well.
Facey despite looking like a good signing is now looking a liability, out of contract at the end of the season.
Buchanan is a top club man but a spent force against anyone with pace.
OíToole is a shadow of the player he was. Heís not even nailing people with any frequency.


Exactly , the hangers on and the under performers are still here .....
Clear some of the clowns out and it might settle the fans down a bit


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 20:34:47 pm
If Bowditch was to leave Iíd barely notice.
If Powell went Iíd only notice marginally more.
Iacifano no one really knows and as he has never dangered the first team despite lower league prolific record would anyone really notice.
Ward might as well go back to Reading if he hasnít already.
Bunney is as good as gone.
Waters as well.
Facey despite looking like a good signing is now looking a liability.
Buchanan is a top club man but a spent force against anyone with pace.
OíToole is a shadow of the player he was. Heís not even nailing people with any frequency.



Cornell has turned out far better than most thought he would.
Turnbull has become a very good player for us.
Pierre has now settled in a after a nervy start with us.
We have some good youth players emerging from an under 18 team that won their league with ease.
Lots of time to ensure a comfortable survival standing nine points and a game in hand of the relegation places.
O Tool will be nice and fresh when he returns (if we keep him).
The weather is very good for this time of year.
I found a two pound coin in the gutter today and bought a jackpot winning lottery ticket with it. I will own the club by Monday afternoon  ;D



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 11, 2019, 20:35:17 pm
At last we have grown some balls and are starting to make the tough decisions. Forget everything else, if a Championship club comes in for a mid table division 2 clubs player you would be hard pushed to keep them. In any event as everyone knows this squad has been a disaster and frankly the more players we can rotate out of it the better. I like Crooks but he represented the main issues with our squad. I.E talented but short on tenacity. However, as some have touched on this is only half the story and the decision can only be judged at the end of the transfer window. As for Rotherham, they must be on drugs, Crooks talent in division 2 becomes average in The Championship and heís no player for a relegation fight.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 11, 2019, 20:35:25 pm
We had 2 players that could make a difference - KvV and Crooks
The fans have a right to vent their anger - and it could turn nasty tomorrow

They could, but they didn't.
It won't turn nasty, u forget that this board is only a minority. Most fans will realise that we are shipping out under achievers and bottle jobs who didn't justify their huge league 2 salaries.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 11, 2019, 20:36:52 pm
Northampton have signed Matt Proctor - a NZ international!
What a coup! Brilliant player, though has a tendency to all too often pass backwards!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 20:38:11 pm
Morelike too many happyclappers who canít see the wood for the trees!

£100,000 a month!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 20:40:33 pm
33 goals scored this season and the three players we have lost were responsible for 15 of them....youíre right, they wonít be missed!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 11, 2019, 20:40:50 pm
They could, but they didn't.
It won't turn nasty, u forget that this board is only a minority. Most fans will realise that we are shipping out under achievers and bottle jobs who didn't justify their huge league 2 salaries.

Speak for 'most fans' opinions do you?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 20:42:19 pm

The fans have a right to vent their anger - and it could turn nasty tomorrow

What will they do. Put on a yellow vest?  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 20:44:03 pm
Morelike too many happyclappers who canít see the wood for the trees!

£100,000 a month!!

Who was it on here that said people on forums know less than 10% of the truth and all the rest is made up or is fake news? If we're losing £100k a month why have we made a bid for a player, according to KC?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 20:47:52 pm
Hope we donít bring in any new players permanently, I would guess we are the only club actively getting rid of their best players. In this window youíd end up spending silly money on mediocre players.
Would rather see the money saved where it could be used more wisely in the summer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 20:53:31 pm
Hope we donít bring in any new players permanently, I would guess we are the only club actively getting rid of their best players. In this window youíd end up spending silly money on mediocre players.
Would rather see the money saved where it could be used more wisely in the summer.

100% agree here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfc01 on January 11, 2019, 20:59:54 pm
Seriously though who in their right mind - of any vague quality - would sign for us at the moment?

What a ridiculous statement


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 11, 2019, 21:01:02 pm
Play some yoof. If theyíve been given contracts then give them some starts.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 21:09:02 pm
Play some yoof. If theyíve been given contracts then give them some starts.
Agree already seen enough of the likes of Hoskins, Powell and Bowditch to know they canít cut it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 11, 2019, 21:14:50 pm
No offence to Matt, but on the positive front Iím putting money on Rotherham to get relegated.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 11, 2019, 21:21:12 pm
Agree already seen enough of the likes of Hoskins, Powell and Bowditch to know they canít cut it.

Crackers to think that Bowditch and Powell got over 90 goals between them at MK!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 11, 2019, 21:27:24 pm
So , two of the four players that tried to leave in the summer have gone .
That leaves Taylor and Turnbull who are also now the highest paid players at the club .
No tears shed for Taylor by most people but I bet offers for either would be accepted .
The chairman needs to make a statement .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 21:33:24 pm
So , two of the four players that tried to leave in the summer have gone .
That leaves Taylor and Turnbull who are also now the highest paid players at the club .
No tears shed for Taylor by most people but I bet offers for either would be accepted .
The chairman needs to make a statement .

The chairman already has made a statement. We were warned that the budget needed addressing over the next two transfer windows. Pay attention.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 11, 2019, 21:37:47 pm
In other news Crooks to Rotherham may have some legs  :o
Just as I had foreseen.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 11, 2019, 21:48:01 pm
No tears shed for Taylor by most people but I bet offers for either would be accepted .
No need for an offer for Taylor would happily let him go on a free.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2019, 21:49:54 pm
Just as I had foreseen.

Genius ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 11, 2019, 21:50:17 pm
The chairman already has made a statement. We were warned that the budget needed addressing over the next two transfer windows. Pay attention.
That's alright then  ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 11, 2019, 21:55:32 pm
Genius ::)
Pierre is off next apparently  :o


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 11, 2019, 21:59:08 pm
That's alright then  ::)

You like your FACTS. So, this is a FACT.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2019, 22:04:00 pm
Pierre is off next apparently  :o

We still have Taylor  :-*


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 11, 2019, 22:06:36 pm
I know he told us he needed to "balance" the squad either in this window or the next, doesn't make it any better though when you sell all your best players and replace them with kids who have never played in the EFL before.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 11, 2019, 22:13:42 pm
We still have Taylor  :-*

Yes... that's the problem  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 11, 2019, 22:15:12 pm
I'll reserve too much judgement until we see if what (if any) replacements comes in but at the moment it's not looking good. KT and the board can't complain when the weekly attendances drop a 1000 or so in the next month.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 11, 2019, 22:17:34 pm
We still have Taylor  :-*
And Hoskins and Cornell not forgetting Facey.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 11, 2019, 22:23:35 pm
I'm generally an optimist with the Cobblers rather than a moaner but if we lose Pierre as well this window I'm going to give up with this season. I remember us losing Holmes, Jacobs, Toney, Bayo the first time, Danny Jackman the first time and being reflective that good players progress and deserve that progression, but I don't ever remember us potentially losing the three best players at the same time before.

The stadium been unfinished for half a decade and the god awful win percentage over 36 months isn't helping.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 11, 2019, 22:38:04 pm
I'm generally an optimist with the Cobblers rather than a moaner but if we lose Pierre as well this window I'm going to give up with this season. I remember us losing Holmes, Jacobs, Toney, Bayo the first time, Danny Jackman the first time and being reflective that good players progress and deserve that progression, but I don't ever remember us potentially losing the three best players at the same time before.

The stadium been unfinished for half a decade and the god awful win percentage over 36 months isn't helping.

And you're from Wellingborough  ;D    Do you still sit in the north stand?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 11, 2019, 22:45:50 pm
Think you're confusing me someone else, there's a few Wellingborough based Cobblers, but I doubt the other guy is much happier.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 22:50:51 pm
Who was it on here that said people on forums know less than 10% of the truth and all the rest is made up or is fake news? If we're losing £100k a month why have we made a bid for a player, according to KC?

We could have got £100k for KVV and £150k for Crooks.....and make a 10k bid for a player?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 11, 2019, 23:22:55 pm
Just as I had foreseen.

You still here? I'm sure you said you were off a couple of days ago. Do us all a favour and live up to your word and f**k off


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2019, 23:27:21 pm
You still here? I'm sure you said you were off a couple of days ago. Do us all a favour and live up to your word and f**k off

 ;D Love it and yeah Mannyboyo FO


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2019, 23:29:51 pm
We could have got £100k for KVV and £150k for Crooks.....and make a 10k bid for a player?

Wow - that's cute buying!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 11, 2019, 23:40:53 pm
When Austin got sacked I heard many fans saying Ďitís a shame you canít sack the playersí. Now weíre getting rid of the players who couldnít be bothered to fight to keep us up and people are still complainng. Good riddance I say. KVV never really wanted to be here and Crooks (with the technical ability he has) should be dominating teams at this level and far too often he hasnít. Good player on his day but very replaceable.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 11, 2019, 23:42:34 pm
When Austin got sacked I heard many fans saying Ďitís a shame you canít sack the playersí. Now weíre getting rid of the players who couldnít be bothered to fight to keep us up and people are still complainng. Good riddance I say. KVV never really wanted to be here and Crooks (with the technical ability he has) should be dominating teams at this level and far too often he hasnít. Good player on his day but very replaceable.

The problem is the lack of replacements so far....That's the key.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 11, 2019, 23:52:20 pm
When Austin got sacked I heard many fans saying Ďitís a shame you canít sack the playersí. Now weíre getting rid of the players who couldnít be bothered to fight to keep us up and people are still complainng. Good riddance I say. KVV never really wanted to be here and Crooks (with the technical ability he has) should be dominating teams at this level and far too often he hasnít. Good player on his day but very replaceable.

If we replace them, all well and good....but we haven't.....yet! And those players are not in the squad to face Carlisle tomorrow, therefore however crap you think they were, our squad for tomorrows game is weaker than it would have been had they been here.

KVV really didn't want to play League 2 football, not necessarily that he didn't want to be at NTFC......if he didn't then why did he make the move and sign the contract? He didn't, and now he's back in League 1.....not bad for a crap player, to actually go up a division that is.

Crooks was, I think, too good for us. His attitude was questionable, perhaps thats because he realised he had a load of garbage players around him" But I saw him dismantle Macclesfield single handedly a couple of months ago, and for me it was the best individual performance by any of our players in any game this season. Good player on his day, and those days were not often enough granted. but good riddance?? Really?

He's left us to go to a team playing two leagues higher than us, and KC says there were other offers too, Billy Waters also says there were other offers for him as well.

I wonder how many offers we've had for Shay Facey? Dean Bowditch perhaps? What about Sam Hoskins?

The squad has scored 33 goals this season. VV, Crooks and Waters between them have scored 15 of those, not far off half.

Anyone who says we're better off.....before they see whether we actually get ANY replacements, let alone can judge the quality of those replacements is having a laugh.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 12, 2019, 00:23:11 am
These departures have weakened out sqaud and raised questions about where we are heading, time will tell but if we have anymore outs before any in and they are substandard then serious questions will need to be asked.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bpcobbler on January 12, 2019, 00:40:35 am
KvV and MC had to go first, makes absolute business sense... And why panic for their replacements? Does it really matter if it takes a couple of weeks? We're lower mid table, can afford a loss or a draw or two, rather wait and get the 'right' players in...  In KC we trust...   ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 12, 2019, 00:46:59 am
If we replace them, all well and good....but we haven't.....yet! And those players are not in the squad to face Carlisle tomorrow, therefore however crap you think they were, our squad for tomorrows game is weaker than it would have been had they been here.

KVV really didn't want to play League 2 football, not necessarily that he didn't want to be at NTFC......if he didn't then why did he make the move and sign the contract? He didn't, and now he's back in League 1.....not bad for a crap player, to actually go up a division that is.

Crooks was, I think, too good for us. His attitude was questionable, perhaps thats because he realised he had a load of garbage players around him" But I saw him dismantle Macclesfield single handedly a couple of months ago, and for me it was the best individual performance by any of our players in any game this season. Good player on his day, and those days were not often enough granted. but good riddance?? Really?

He's left us to go to a team playing two leagues higher than us, and KC says there were other offers too, Billy Waters also says there were other offers for him as well.

I wonder how many offers we've had for Shay Facey? Dean Bowditch perhaps? What about Sam Hoskins?

The squad has scored 33 goals this season. VV, Crooks and Waters between them have scored 15 of those, not far off half.

Anyone who says we're better off.....before they see whether we actually get ANY replacements, let alone can judge the quality of those replacements is having a laugh.

Yes good riddance. It might be harsh but Iím sick and tired of these players thinking theyíre above themselves. I watched both Crooks and KVV barely fight to keep us in the division last year and all of a sudden because their technical ability is better than League Two they think theyíre too good for us. Get proper players in who want to fight for the club rather than those who just think theyíre too good for the division. Fans donít pay £22 a week for you to have a questionable attitude because you donít believe the players around you are on your level, not good enough.

With regards to replacements letís wait and see who KC can get in. Iím not saying weíre better off right now I just believe theyíre both very replaceable players that Iím not really that sad to see the back of because I believe KC is more than capable of bringing in adequate replacements. Youíre always going to be weaker if you lose a starter or two in a window but thatís football. Would you rather KC rushed to sign players in time for the game tomorrow? Some of the biggest clubs in the world have to go a few months with a weaker squad. Thatís the way it goes.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: crazycobbler on January 12, 2019, 00:47:16 am
KvV and MC had to go first, makes absolute business sense... And why panic for their replacements? Does it really matter if it takes a couple of weeks? We're lower mid table, can afford a loss or a draw or two, rather wait and get the 'right' players in...  In KC we trust...   ;)

Spot on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Lukey on January 12, 2019, 03:51:42 am
To be quite frank i'm very wary of players who can't get a game in the SPL,

We see a few players leave the SPL for the English Premier League and they look a wee bit like conference players, Crooksie for me was poor last season at League One level, i'd be very surprised if he ups his game a couple of levels and nails down a starting place in a Championship squad unless it was a club struggling for money and on the decline.

Lets play some of the youngsters who will work their socks off and get in another loan or two, IMO we are safe from the drop.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Cobblersmad on January 12, 2019, 08:06:13 am
Am I the only one who read all the story of Crooks leaving on the club website? Towards the end Curle said we have a bid in for a player that we deem to be acceptable.

Presumably this must be a attacking midfielder/striker, so has anybody got the faintest idea of who it may be? If like it to be Jamille Matt, but maybe his value has gone up since the game last week.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 12, 2019, 08:16:43 am
Don't worry... Nile Ranger is still available.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 12, 2019, 09:05:12 am
With those that have left we still have a squad of 23 if you only include 2 goalkeepers and not those out on loan. Then if you consider that of these 5 of them are youth team/ graduates and  OíToole has been/still is injured then the match day squad does look decidedly thin and is not far from being quite clear. Unlike the starting line up or formation!
 Happily see some of the young players feature as Iíd expect they will bust a gut to make an impression.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: exiledinspace on January 12, 2019, 09:08:26 am
Prepare for another decade or more in the basement, if relegation can be avoided that is.

Shite, stagnant stadium bordering on an embarrassment, owners not interested, better players leaving for a pittance.

Crying shame in such a large town with huge resources, but as long as we have owners who don't believe in the club and it's future, nobody else will except a few of you deluded individuals. I had more optimism about NTFC and it's future when Aidy Mann ran out for the first time at the County Ground.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 12, 2019, 09:19:27 am
Don't worry... Nile Ranger is still available.

This is exactly the type of player we need to take a risk on for the rest of the season.   


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2019, 09:23:47 am
You still here? I'm sure you said you were off a couple of days ago. Do us all a favour and live up to your word and f**k off
Haha another hard man behind his keyboard, happy to meet up to discuss your problem but I'm pretty sure your a coward.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2019, 09:27:55 am
Haha another hard man behind his keyboard, happy to meet up to discuss your problem but I'm pretty sure your a coward.

I know passions are running high. But let's all try to get on, at the end of the day we all want the best for the Cobblers.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2019, 09:29:21 am
Yes good riddance. It might be harsh but Iím sick and tired of these players thinking theyíre above themselves. I watched both Crooks and KVV barely fight to keep us in the division last year and all of a sudden because their technical ability is better than League Two they think theyíre too good for us. Get proper players in who want to fight for the club rather than those who just think theyíre too good for the division. Fans donít pay £22 a week for you to have a questionable attitude because you donít believe the players around you are on your level, not good enough.

With regards to replacements letís wait and see who KC can get in. Iím not saying weíre better off right now I just believe theyíre both very replaceable players that Iím not really that sad to see the back of because I believe KC is more than capable of bringing in adequate replacements. Youíre always going to be weaker if you lose a starter or two in a window but thatís football. Would you rather KC rushed to sign players in time for the game tomorrow? Some of the biggest clubs in the world have to go a few months with a weaker squad. Thatís the way it goes.

I agree with this crazy.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: andycobbler on January 12, 2019, 09:36:11 am
Fire sale.  :o


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 09:44:35 am
Yes good riddance. It might be harsh but Iím sick and tired of these players thinking theyíre above themselves. I watched both Crooks and KVV barely fight to keep us in the division last year and all of a sudden because their technical ability is better than League Two they think theyíre too good for us. Get proper players in who want to fight for the club rather than those who just think theyíre too good for the division. Fans donít pay £22 a week for you to have a questionable attitude because you donít believe the players around you are on your level, not good enough.

With regards to replacements letís wait and see who KC can get in. Iím not saying weíre better off right now I just believe theyíre both very replaceable players that Iím not really that sad to see the back of because I believe KC is more than capable of bringing in adequate replacements. Youíre always going to be weaker if you lose a starter or two in a window but thatís football. Would you rather KC rushed to sign players in time for the game tomorrow? Some of the biggest clubs in the world have to go a few months with a weaker squad. Thatís the way it goes.

Spot on


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 10:53:19 am
Haha another hard man behind his keyboard, happy to meet up to discuss your problem but I'm pretty sure your a coward.

You also sound like a hard man behind your keyboard.
Amazing what the reality is though isn't it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 12, 2019, 10:57:36 am
Haha another hard man behind his keyboard, happy to meet up to discuss your problem but I'm pretty sure your a coward.

First of all I apologise your swearing. That was out of order. It was however you who said "im off" and then didnt. You should stick to your word but as I opened up we all say something we shouldn't do.

With regard to discussing with you, I am more than happy.  I believe you can private message on here so if you want to send me your details please do.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 12, 2019, 11:00:30 am
Fan ownership!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2019, 11:15:49 am
First of all I apologise your swearing. That was out of order. It was however you who said "im off" and then didnt. You should stick to your word but as I opened up we all say something we shouldn't do.

With regard to discussing with you, I am more than happy.  I believe you can private message on here so if you want to send me your details please do.
I accept your apologie at the end of the day we probably all want the same thing
I wasnít talking about leaving the sire.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2019, 11:17:59 am
You also sound like a hard man behind your keyboard.
Amazing what the reality is though isn't it?
You can fcuk off as well 😄😄😄


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 12, 2019, 11:20:39 am
I accept your apologie at the end of the day we probably all want the same thing
I wasnít talking about leaving the sire.

Ok thats fine.I think we do all want the same thing on here but there are so many different opinions as to how. That is ,in my opinion, why a fans led takeover will never work.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 12, 2019, 11:23:02 am
Ok thats fine.I think we do all want the same thing on here but there are so many different opinions as to how. That is ,in my opinion, why a fans led takeover will never work.
I'll say it again, it WILL NOT be the fans running the club, professionals will be in place.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 12, 2019, 11:41:57 am
Ok thats fine.I think we do all want the same thing on here but there are so many different opinions as to how. That is ,in my opinion, why a fans led takeover will never work.
You forgot to state your master plan?
Don't tell us what wont work then not offer an alternative.
What we can all agree on Thomas and Cardoza didnt work, but now all the land has gone we should be safe from any more land speculators.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 12, 2019, 11:52:03 am
I have no master plan or indeed nor does anyone else.  I am happy with the status quo until something does.  Ww are losing a lot of money but the present owners at least have the ability to keep it finances for as long as they choose.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 12, 2019, 12:07:35 pm
I have no master plan or indeed nor does anyone else.  I am happy with the status quo until something does.  Ww are losing a lot of money but the present owners at least have the ability to keep it finances for as long as they choose.
It is they who created the shortfall by getting us relegated from league 1 and doing nothing about our archaic infrastructure, so that's £1.5m in lost L1 revenues and another £200,000 per season, so theres another 600k lost on the lack of development of corporate boxes and counting.
To add insult to injury  our team has now been decimated and we are in a relegation fight to retain our 100 year league status!
Operating on a shoestring budget can hardly be described as 'looking after the finances'


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 12:09:35 pm
It is they who created the shortfall by getting us relegated from league 1 and doing nothing about our archaic infrastructure, so that's £1.5m in lost L1 revenues and another £200,000 per season, so theres another 600k lost on the lack of development of corporate boxes and counting.
To add insult to injury  our team has now been decimated and we are in a relegation fight to retain our 100 year league status!
Operating on a shoestring budget can hardly be described as 'looking after the finances'


You're quoting figures as facts again, you've been warned about that...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 12, 2019, 12:15:59 pm
I accept your apologie at the end of the day we probably all want the same thing
I wasnít talking about leaving the sire.

You have gone down in my estimations! I expected a fully blown windmill fighting encounter on the concourse at half time to offer a very needed alternative to the inane skip nonsense.

I would have even held your pie for safekeeping!  ;)



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 12, 2019, 12:27:34 pm
Like KVV, Crooks is a player whose undoubted technical ability and moments of occasional mercurial brilliance has disguised a lack of consistent end product.

Macclesfield aside, in how many games has he truly 'bossed' the midfield against L2 opposition? As others have said, too often he has simply 'gone missing' from games and for a supposedly Championship-level midfielder playing in L2 that isn't really good enough.

In addition, one of the big issues with him, I think, is that none of our managers really knew where to play him. Is he best as a deep-lying playmaker, as the furthest forward in a three in a 5-3-2 or as one of the two in a 4-4-2 or as a number 10? I would say that this ambiguity about how to best accommodate Crooks is the main reason why successive managers have failed to establish a consistent formation. Hopefully now he is gone Curle can establish a consistent midfield in which everyone is clear on their role and JJOT is able to shine.

Wilder always recruited players based on character in addition to ability. Page, JED and JFH all failed to do this and that is one of the main reasons why we are where we are. Hopefully Curle will buck this trend and recruit replacements with the stomach for the fight.




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 12, 2019, 12:35:24 pm
Any danger of some actual rumours on this thread?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfc01 on January 12, 2019, 12:44:08 pm
I just find it amazing for the last two years everyone has moaned about the prima donnas pulling on a cobblers shirt and now we have sold to of them...players who clearly didn't want to be at the club your all moaning about that. Apparently...and I say this with a pinch of salt because I am not in the know..but both deals were pretty decent ones for the club..we certainly would have not got anywhere near the money we got for them now in the summer when they would have definitely left anyway.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2019, 13:05:39 pm
I just find it amazing for the last two years everyone has moaned about the prima donnas pulling on a cobblers shirt and now we have sold to of them...players who clearly didn't want to be at the club your all moaning about that. Apparently...and I say this with a pinch of salt because I am not in the know..but both deals were pretty decent ones for the club..we certainly would have not got anywhere near the money we got for them now in the summer when they would have definitely left anyway.
The problem is the players left at the club with the exception of Pierre and Turnbull are very poor. Whatever you think of think of VV and Crooks there was end product, 16 goals and a good number of assists. Compared with the headless chicken Hoskins and the barely noticeable Bowditch who both have practically zero end product. I wonít hold my breath on new players coming in as despite the usual Ďwhat a good signingí that greets every new arrival chances are they will be as inept as the majority of the current players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 12, 2019, 13:20:21 pm
Any danger of some actual rumours on this thread?

I havenít submitted a transfer request.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2019, 13:28:19 pm
We could have got £100k for KVV and £150k for Crooks.....and make a 10k bid for a player?

Apparently we got more than 150k for Crooks


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 12, 2019, 13:28:25 pm
Now we have started the clear out, KC should continue along this path and maybe get rid of a few more players that are just eking out a living. Starting with Taylor and Bowditch, maybe Buchanan and Coddington.

With the wage bill cut he can start rebuilding with a right sided CB to compliment Turnbull and Pierre, an attacking midfielder to play alongside Foley and McWilliams, and a striker to compete with Williams A and Morias, and maybe an attacking RWB similar to Moloney when he first arrived. That still leaves Powell, Hoskins, JJOT, Odoffin, Facey, Bridge and the kids to compete for the bench. Should be enough for mid table security.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 12, 2019, 13:30:43 pm
Any danger of some actual rumours on this thread?
Happy to oblige. Liam Ridehalge from Tranmere.
It is only a rumour though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2019, 13:42:58 pm
Happy to oblige. Liam Ridehalge from Tranmere.
It is only a rumour though.
Another left back would seem excessive.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 13:55:57 pm
Another left back would seem excessive.

Not if Buchs goes, which I expect he will (maybe in the summer).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2019, 14:19:26 pm
Not if Buchs goes, which I expect he will (maybe in the summer).

Hope you are there today?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 12, 2019, 14:22:36 pm
Hope you are there today?

What difference does it make if heís here or not - itís a free world.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 15:01:03 pm
Hope you are there today?

Sadly not, belated Xmas work night out means I'm stuck in the west country.

Not entirely sure of the relevance of that in any way shape or form.

But you've once again achieved making yourself look a prize clown!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 12, 2019, 15:06:56 pm
Interesting that Taylor is not playing today, is he the next to be going?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 16:36:08 pm
The fans have a right to vent their anger - and it could turn nasty tomorrow
.

I bet its awful


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2019, 16:53:58 pm
Interesting that Taylor is not playing today, is he the next to be going?
Hope so


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 12, 2019, 17:25:49 pm
Interesting that Taylor is not playing today, is he the next to be going?

I hope so. we looked solid without him. Taylor is one of thise defenders who looks good by making last ditched tackles but the chances come from his poor play in the build up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 12, 2019, 17:44:51 pm
The chap that told me we were about to sign Ricky Lambert has just told me we have signed the Carlisle number 10 that played today


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 18:02:11 pm
Samaritans have just contacted the club to thank them for reducing their workload following today's win...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 12, 2019, 18:03:52 pm
The chap that told me we were about to sign Ricky Lambert has just told me we have signed the Carlisle number 10 that played today

Someone else mentioned to me about Devitt today - have no idea if it has legs. I thought he was probably their best player today and would certainly do a job - if he does come we should recall Bunney and the pair of them would scare the death out of the opposition.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 12, 2019, 18:06:53 pm
Any danger of some actual rumours on this thread?
The Lone Ranger back training with us.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 12, 2019, 18:12:40 pm
The Lone Ranger back training with us.

Why would KC want to do that, there were signs today of harmony and teamwork why potentially throw that all away for the sake of a non-scoring troublemaker?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 12, 2019, 18:18:41 pm
Someone else mentioned to me about Devitt today - have no idea if it has legs. I thought he was probably their best player today and would certainly do a job - if he does come we should recall Bunney and the pair of them would scare the death out of the opposition.

Really? Apart from a few attempted through balls I thought he did very little.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 12, 2019, 18:52:51 pm
Really? Apart from a few attempted through balls I thought he did very little.
I donít know the bloke but he was adamant that it was happening.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on January 12, 2019, 19:16:51 pm
Samaritans have just contacted the club to thank them for reducing their workload following today's win...

I don't know, there may be a few calling them after today's win as it's a bit of a nuisance that we've won without the Great Matthew Crooks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2019, 19:40:52 pm
Sadly not, belated Xmas work night out means I'm stuck in the west country.

Not entirely sure of the relevance of that in any way shape or form.

Bnut you've once again achieved making yourself look a prize clown!

I like clowns; you going next week?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 12, 2019, 20:42:52 pm
An hour ago according to Twitter.... Carlisle Jamie Devitt is reported to not have gone with the rest of the Carlisle team on the coach and his car is still at sixfields...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 12, 2019, 20:49:20 pm
An hour ago according to Twitter.... Carlisle Jamie Devitt is reported to not have gone with the rest of the Carlisle team on the coach and his car is still at sixfields...

I thought there 17 year old lad looked better than him today.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2019, 20:58:33 pm
I don't know, there may be a few calling them after today's win as it's a bit of a nuisance that we've won without the Great Matthew Crooks.
.
And the great VV! Whose side lost today ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 12, 2019, 21:03:41 pm
I thought there 17 year old lad looked better than him today.

I agree that their debutant looked good but Devitt is a decent player at this level - heís always near the top of the assists table and has been playing well this season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 12, 2019, 21:06:03 pm
I heard the Devitt rumour as well.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 12, 2019, 21:08:14 pm
Well heís been tweeting about going again for Carlisle next week.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 12, 2019, 21:18:49 pm
And the twitter rumour above has been disproved on their forum - as they quite rightly pointed out why would his car be still in the car park at sixfields when he came down on their bus. That said I definitely wouldnít mind seeing him down here if itís possible - a lot of their posters think very highly of him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 12, 2019, 21:42:56 pm
.
And the great VV! Whose side lost today ;D

Scunny won 2-1 at Walsall Tony. vV didn't play though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 12, 2019, 22:43:10 pm
The chap that told me we were about to sign Ricky Lambert has just told me we have signed the Carlisle number 10 that played today

Blimey, him & Bunney would keep any dentist busy all year.....   ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 12, 2019, 23:24:05 pm
not sure I not sure if it has been mentioned but there are suggestions that we are in for Nile ranger. Apparently a number of the players have started following him on Instagram and a suggestion he was spotted in the West stand. He has been sacked by 4 clubs which is insane. Lad has huge ability though. Just listening to a podcast with him and heís saying all the right things, just unsure if he is able to keep the wrong folk out his life.

Could all be rubbish of course!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2019, 23:27:53 pm
not sure I not sure if it has been mentioned but there are suggestions that we are in for Nile ranger. Apparently a number of the players have started following him on Instagram and a suggestion he was spotted in the West stand. He has been sacked by 4 clubs which is insane. Lad has huge ability though. Just listening to a podcast with him and heís saying all the right things, just unsure if he is able to keep the wrong folk out his life.

Could all be rubbish of course!

He will keep local bobbies occupied.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 12, 2019, 23:56:31 pm
not sure I not sure if it has been mentioned but there are suggestions that we are in for Nile ranger. Apparently a number of the players have started following him on Instagram and a suggestion he was spotted in the West stand. He has been sacked by 4 clubs which is insane. Lad has huge ability though. Just listening to a podcast with him and heís saying all the right things, just unsure if he is able to keep the wrong folk out his life.

Could all be rubbish of course!
I'm sure it's all a load of rubbish, the club would be nuts to take him on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 12, 2019, 23:58:41 pm
not sure I not sure if it has been mentioned but there are suggestions that we are in for Nile ranger. Apparently a number of the players have started following him on Instagram and a suggestion he was spotted in the West stand. He has been sacked by 4 clubs which is insane. Lad has huge ability though. Just listening to a podcast with him and heís saying all the right things, just unsure if he is able to keep the wrong folk out his life.

Could all be rubbish of course!

Wilder managed to to get the best out of Adam Smith, when no-one would touch him with a barge-pole.

I guess, it's down to whether Curley-Cobblers can trust him.  I know who would win if it came to a face-to-face between Curle & Ranger.... and the winner would not be Nile Ranger.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 13, 2019, 00:20:41 am
not sure I not sure if it has been mentioned but there are suggestions that we are in for Nile ranger. Apparently a number of the players have started following him on Instagram and a suggestion he was spotted in the West stand. He has been sacked by 4 clubs which is insane. Lad has huge ability though. Just listening to a podcast with him and heís saying all the right things, just unsure if he is able to keep the wrong folk out his life.

Could all be rubbish of course!

If KC thinks he's worth a non contract/short term deal then so be it. If he's been training with us then I'd trust the judgement of KC over our mixed bag of supporters. Could be a cult figure for us & public enemy for opposing fans. If he does well for us no one else will want him anyway due to his previous misdemeanors!

Also be worth it just to see the official meme when he scores!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2019, 00:21:53 am
Wilder managed to to get the best out of Adam Smith, when no-one would touch him with a barge-pole.

All three players involved in that incident have league clubs, if we hadnít taken Smith Iím sure someone else would have.
Ranger has done one dumb thing, after another, after another. His record in the lower leagues has been ok but way off being good enough to surely think about taking a risk on him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 13, 2019, 01:35:48 am
All three players involved in that incident have league clubs, if we hadnít taken Smith Iím sure someone else would have.
Ranger has done one dumb thing, after another, after another. His record in the lower leagues has been ok but way off being good enough to surely think about taking a risk on him.

The, at that time Manager's son, had his contract terminated, and then spent 8 months clubless before signing Non-Contract with high-flying Barnet.  He made just a handful of league appearances in the next 3 years before being snapped-up by ambitious Macclesfield this pre-season.  He has now nearly trebled his league appearance totals.  Either he was deeply affected by the incident, or, no-one would touch him with a barge-pole, or, he was useless.

Strangely, his father's Managerial career has been less than mercurial since that incident.

The other of the trio had already been playing on loan at Sc***horpe, so, was, not surprisingly, signed by them when he was released by Leicester.  Sc***horpe accepted offers for him at various time during his 3 year stay there, but, he consistently refused to move.  Eventually, he went when they didn't renew his contract.  Now out long-term injured..... (nothing sinister about the dot-dot-dot).

Smiffy, though, is a bench-warmer at Bristol, and may well be about to move to the North-East to get regular football (all-be-it by dropping into non-League).

So, maybe you are right, maybe I'm right, maybe we are both right.

Who can tell what happens when a club signs a "bad-'un".  What is a "bad-'un"?  We all need a "Robin Friday" to brighten up our dismal lives.  But, do we need a https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-memphis-depay-rooney-15158492 ?

It takes a special kind of manager to get the best out of those wrong-'uns.  Wilder did it.  And, I trust Curle to do the same.  Curle will not allow a "<expletive-deleted>" to upset the dressing room. But, there are some extremely talented players out there who just need the right kind of guidance.   





 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 13, 2019, 08:38:09 am
I don't know how talented he is though. Did he set the world on fire at Southend?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 13, 2019, 10:45:07 am
Wilder managed to to get the best out of Adam Smith, when no-one would touch him with a barge-pole.

I guess, it's down to whether Curley-Cobblers can trust him.  I know who would win if it came to a face-to-face between Curle & Ranger.... and the winner would not be Nile Ranger.

As I recall, it was Smith who had been doing the touching with his barge-pole.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 13, 2019, 12:30:52 pm
I heard the Devitt rumour as well.
Looks like Devitt is going nowhere, but Ashley Nadesan gets a mention.

www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/17344825.star-man-jamie-devitt-going-nowhere-this-month-says-carlisle-utd-director-of-football/


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 13, 2019, 12:35:03 pm
Free transfer in the summer then.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 13, 2019, 12:38:00 pm
Carlisle like Nadesan a lot, but I think he went back in Fleetwoods team after returning there so don't know if he'd be available or not.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 13, 2019, 12:46:40 pm
Looks like Devitt is going nowhere, but Ashley Nadesan gets a mention.

www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/17344825.star-man-jamie-devitt-going-nowhere-this-month-says-carlisle-utd-director-of-football/

Signed by KC this time last year, then went back on loan to Carlisle in August. Could this be the player we've made a bid for?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 13, 2019, 13:46:56 pm
Nadesan played yesterday for Fleetwood which would rule him out for playing for another club this season, apart from Carlisle. Could well be the player we put a bid in for though.

Out of contract in the summer.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bwills on January 13, 2019, 15:17:21 pm
THIS IS DEFINITELY A RUMOUR!!

Had a bit of soul searching over whether to put this up, as in no way can a verify what I heard. But on leaving the ground yesterday, I overheard a bloke saying the Ash Taylor was none to pleased at being left out of the team/squad and when asked to go to the club shop for autograph signings/photos etc had swore at a club official and left the ground in a hurry.

Again I must state there is no way I can verify any of the above and will happily delete this post if the guardians of the site feel this is defamatory.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 13, 2019, 15:25:30 pm
THIS IS DEFINITELY A RUMOUR!!

Had a bit of soul searching over whether to put this up, as in no way can a verify what I heard. But on leaving the ground yesterday, I overheard a bloke saying the Ash Taylor was none to pleased at being left out of the team/squad and when asked to go to the club shop for autograph signings/photos etc had swore at a club official and left the ground in a hurry.

Again I must state there is no way I can verify any of the above and will happily delete this post if the guardians of the site feel this is defamatory.



Itís all over Twitter - Taylor is out with a groin injury and he did rush off before the game, heís saying it was a family emergency but there are people who were there who are adamant that he swore when asked to sign autographs for the kids. Ultimately itís only Taylor who really knows what happened and if saying that he didnít swear then youíve got to take his word for it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bwills on January 13, 2019, 15:29:18 pm
Itís all over Twitter - Taylor is out with a groin injury and he did rush off before the game, heís saying it was a family emergency but there are people who were there who are adamant that he swore when asked to sign autographs for the kids. Ultimately itís only Taylor who really knows what happened and if saying that he didnít swear then youíve got to take his word for it.


 and I thought I had an exclusive 😂😂😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 13, 2019, 15:32:58 pm

 and I thought I had an exclusive 😂😂😂
Thanks for posting anyway.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 13, 2019, 15:48:21 pm
THIS IS DEFINITELY A RUMOUR!!

Had a bit of soul searching over whether to put this up, as in no way can a verify what I heard. But on leaving the ground yesterday, I overheard a bloke saying the Ash Taylor was none to pleased at being left out of the team/squad and when asked to go to the club shop for autograph signings/photos etc had swore at a club official and left the ground in a hurry.

Again I must state there is no way I can verify any of the above and will happily delete this post if the guardians of the site feel this is defamatory.


Heard he said: "F*** off, I'm not here to do that." Will be interesting to see if this is verified.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 13, 2019, 16:32:19 pm
Nadesan played yesterday for Fleetwood which would rule him out for playing for another club this season, apart from Carlisle. Could well be the player we put a bid in for though.

Out of contract in the summer.

I thought the rule was a player cannot play for more than 3 EFL clubs in any one season. Having played for Carlisle and now Fleetwood this season I would have thought he was still eligible.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 13, 2019, 16:33:55 pm
Itís all over Twitter - Taylor is out with a groin injury and he did rush off before the game, heís saying it was a family emergency but there are people who were there who are adamant that he swore when asked to sign autographs for the kids. Ultimately itís only Taylor who really knows what happened and if saying that he didnít swear then youíve got to take his word for it.

Seems like a good enough reason to get shot of him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2019, 16:39:55 pm
Surely going to be better for all parties if he can find another club.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 13, 2019, 16:47:40 pm
THIS IS DEFINITELY A RUMOUR!!

Had a bit of soul searching over whether to put this up, as in no way can a verify what I heard. But on leaving the ground yesterday, I overheard a bloke saying the Ash Taylor was none to pleased at being left out of the team/squad and when asked to go to the club shop for autograph signings/photos etc had swore at a club official and left the ground in a hurry.

Again I must state there is no way I can verify any of the above and will happily delete this post if the guardians of the site feel this is defamatory.


Someone from the coaching staff confirmed to me Taylor has a groin injury


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 13, 2019, 17:05:45 pm
I thought the rule was a player cannot play for more than 3 EFL clubs in any one season. Having played for Carlisle and now Fleetwood this season I would have thought he was still eligible.


I have no idea, I just read this article where it mentions the rule.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/fleetwood-town-fc/ashley-nadesan-discusses-his-fleetwood-town-future-after-loan-spell-at-carlisle-1-9531409 (https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/fleetwood-town-fc/ashley-nadesan-discusses-his-fleetwood-town-future-after-loan-spell-at-carlisle-1-9531409)

EDIT:

Currently, under the FIFA Transfer Regulations, a football player is only allowed to be registered with a maximum of three clubs in one season. ... During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bwills on January 13, 2019, 17:40:27 pm
Someone from the coaching staff confirmed to me Taylor has a groin injury

As I stated , there is no way I can verify what I overheard. I hope you are right, as that is no way I would want our Club Captain to behave. I can assure you that I am as far away from being in the know as anyone can be


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 13, 2019, 18:22:12 pm
Does having a groin injury prevent someone swearing?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 13, 2019, 18:24:31 pm
As I recall, it was Smith who had been doing the touching with his barge-pole.

Had his trousers on tho'


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 13, 2019, 22:23:36 pm
Someone from the coaching staff confirmed to me Taylor has a groin injury
If the rumours are true the groin injury is that he has lost the useless prick to become a c~nt? Metaphorically speaking of course.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 13, 2019, 23:27:21 pm
Had his trousers on tho'

He didn't! ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 14, 2019, 09:38:44 am
Does having a groin injury prevent someone swearing?

Hopefully the kids didn't attend the game.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2019, 15:21:25 pm
So , where are all those on here that said the first thing KC would do in the January window is sign a keeper ?
Itís more likely we get an offer for our keeper


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 15:34:26 pm
So , where are all those on here that said the first thing KC would do in the January window is sign a keeper ?
Itís more likely we get an offer for our keeper

Oh dear hope not. Whats your opinion on this Clarence in Defence?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 14, 2019, 15:38:58 pm
Oh dear hope not. Whats your opinion on this Clarence in Defence?

AS long as its not Ash Taylor in his defence he will probably keep a clean sheet  ;D ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 14, 2019, 16:21:31 pm
Lewis Ward has gone back - Not that he actually played or even made the bench recently


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 16:24:28 pm
So , where are all those on here that said the first thing KC would do in the January window is sign a keeper ?
Itís more likely we get an offer for our keeper

I'm not sure many said it would be the first thing he would do - but have patience dear boy.

It will happen!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 14, 2019, 16:31:10 pm
I'm not sure many said it would be the first thing he would do - but have patience dear boy.

It will happen!

I think you're wrong dear boy  ;D

Cornell has proved this season that he's good enough and with Coddington and Goff as back up we are fine. In the summer it may change because both Coddington & Goff are out of contract and if one or both are released a new goalkeeper or two will be required.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 14, 2019, 16:48:50 pm
Lewis Ward has gone back - Not that he actually played or even made the bench recently

Sensible move, frees up a loan place if we should need up and reduces wage bill still further.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 14, 2019, 16:49:15 pm
Lewis Ward has gone back - Not that he actually played or even made the bench recently

Now joined Forest Green Rovers on loan for the remainder of the season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 16:55:53 pm
AS long as its not Ash Taylor in his defence he will probably keep a clean sheet  ;D ;D

Taylor is a much maligned player; did ok for us last year in L1 and is not a bad player. If KC continues to play him then he is a better judge of a player than most on here.The exception on here however is 2 or 3 experts who know better than most of us. Some of the criticism aimed at Taylor is based on a a false percetion; all other issues are ignored. Just a stampede of headless chickens so eager to jump on the anti Taylor bandwagon. The same fate befell Cornell, then Crooks, then Facey, Hoskins, vV and also people forget the criticism which Pierre endured last season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 14, 2019, 17:06:32 pm
Taylor is a much maligned player; did ok for us last year in L1 and is not a bad player. If KC continues to play him then he is a better judge of a player than most on here.The exception on here however is 2 or 3 experts who know better than most of us. Some of the criticism aimed at Taylor is based on a a false percetion; all other issues are ignored. Just a stampede of headless chickens so eager to jump on the anti Taylor bandwagon. The same fate befell Cornell, then Crooks, then Facey, Hoskins, vV and also people forget the criticism which Pierre endured last season.

People (generally) will comment on a players current performances, not ones displayed previously. For example Facey. He's been utter useless in recent weeks/months, on Saturday he was superb. When he first joined he was really decent and looked like a cracking signing.

Cornell has totally turned things around and has now become one of my favourite players; you see, thats because in my eyes he's been playing well. When a player is playing badly (like Taylor has) I do not want to see them in the side.

Whatever the reasons, last season KVV was sh1t. Utter sh1t. He wanted to leave. And did so at the first opportunity. He scored 4 goals from open play, terrific.

With regards to Crookes, Ill say it again. The wages he would have been on made him poor value for us. He was incredibly talented but also equally inconsistent; he's not what I would call a '7 out of 10 player'. He's either 4, 5 or 9. That isn't a good thing in my mind.

With regards to Taylor, I've just got to say that 'I don't get it'. I don't get why he gets picked. Last season he was arguably very decent in a lot of peoples judgement (player of the season) but this time round he's been a liability. His presence seems to have a detrimental effect on his team mates, in particular the young ones.

Finally, Hoskins. Subjective. I get that. I like the kid, always have done. But I understand why he frustrates alot of people.

*FINALLY. THIS POST IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND NOT THAT OF THE SUPPORTERS TRUST*



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 14, 2019, 17:46:32 pm
Taylor is a much maligned player; did ok for us last year in L1 and is not a bad player. If KC continues to play him then he is a better judge of a player than most on here.The exception on here however is 2 or 3 experts who know better than most of us. Some of the criticism aimed at Taylor is based on a a false percetion; all other issues are ignored. Just a stampede of headless chickens so eager to jump on the anti Taylor bandwagon. The same fate befell Cornell, then Crooks, then Facey, Hoskins, vV and also people forget the criticism which Pierre endured last season.

I was much maligned last year when I said that Taylor was not our best player, his poor attitude and abysmal distribution invited on pressure and increased pressure on those around him in already high pressure situations.

Taylor is a defender where if you put together a highlight reel on all his last minute blocks and tackles he looks world class, but that does not tell the full story. I think he is far from captain material and is often in poor positions. This probably comes form his lack in faith in those around him and feeling like he needs to do it all himself but the crooks of it is we are considerably worse with him in the team.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 14, 2019, 17:50:14 pm
Taylor and Pierre can't play with each other. Taylor improved after Pierre was injured for the season, and now Pierre is looking better with Taylor out the side. That's how I see it anyway.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 17:53:45 pm
I think you're wrong dear boy  ;D

Cornell has proved this season that he's good enough and with Coddington and Goff as back up we are fine. In the summer it may change because both Coddington & Goff are out of contract and if one or both are released a new goalkeeper or two will be required.

Cornell is good enough if we want to finish bottom half yes.

Depends if KC wants to write this season off and start again properly in the summer.

If he thinks/wants to have play off ambitions this year then he will sign a keeper either perm or on loan who will allow us to kick on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 17:57:01 pm

*FINALLY. THIS POST IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND NOT THAT OF THE SUPPORTERS TRUST*



You are self confessed member of the Trust Board; admirable stance. However in my view it is perhaps best to avoid making contentious comments when in your position. You merely incite the more unscruplous on here.
Best to post as a Guest and hope you are not identified. >:D

Your form on judgement of players is no better than mine :o and in a few instances worse ;) Other than that thanks for at least identifying grounds no better than Sixfields.
 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 18:01:10 pm
Cornell is good enough if we want to Dinah bottom half yes.

Depends if KC wants to right this season off and start again properly in the summer.

If he thinks/wants to have play off ambitions this year then he will sign a keeper either park or on loan who will allow us to kick on.

Have you been on the afternoon sauce again?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 18:01:42 pm
Cornell is good enough if we want to Dinah bottom half yes.

Depends if KC wants to right this season off and start again properly in the summer.

If he thinks/wants to have play off ambitions this year then he will sign a keeper either park or on loan who will allow us to kick on.

Decipher please!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 18:08:20 pm
I was much maligned last year when I said that Taylor was not our best player, his poor attitude and abysmal distribution invited on pressure and increased pressure on those around him in already high pressure situations.

Taylor is a defender where if you put together a highlight reel on all his last minute blocks and tackles he looks world class, but that does not tell the full story. I think he is far from captain material and is often in poor positions. This probably comes form his lack in faith in those around him and feeling like he needs to do it all himself but the crooks of it is we are considerably worse with him in the team.

I still think he played ok in L1 and QPR supporters thought he looked on the day championship material. You maybe right in some of your criticism; again its all about opinions. Must admit I like Taylor.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 14, 2019, 18:15:17 pm
Taylor and Pierre can't play with each other. Taylor improved after Pierre was injured for the season, and now Pierre is looking better with Taylor out the side. That's how I see it anyway.

Turnbull and Pierre are way above the level of Taylor. I'd rather see Jay Williams play alongside those two week in week out over Taylor, and he's still very raw and likely to make mistakes - but probably still not half as many as Taylor.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2019, 18:24:57 pm
I'm not sure many said it would be the first thing he would do - but have patience dear boy.

It will happen!
I think you will find a number of people on here said that Cornell would be immediately replaced in the January window .
He hasnít been and wonít be .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2019, 18:28:11 pm
Turnbull and Pierre are way above the level of Taylor. I'd rather see Jay Williams play alongside those two week in week out over Taylor, and he's still very raw and likely to make mistakes - but probably still not half as many as Taylor.
The problem is Taylor is in big wages and no one will match them .
He also lives and travels from Merseyside .
He will be difficult to shift .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2019, 18:38:42 pm
Would be interested to know the record this season with and without Taylor.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 18:47:12 pm
I think you will find a number of people on here said that Cornell would be immediately replaced in the January window .
He hasnít been and wonít be .

Well I can't remeber anyone saying it would happen straight away.

But the only reason Curle would not replace him in the next 14 says is if he has already written this season off, this having a proper go in the summer.





Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: RowN on January 14, 2019, 19:08:09 pm
I donít post here often, because I canít be arsed with some of the childish comments which I often read here. We are ARE all Cobblers supporters, so should get on which each other, for the good of the club, without resorting to names, or the my opinion is better than yours one..

Anyway, for me personally, the downward spiral from Wilders achievements was when we signed Taylor. If I recall correctly wasnít he Pageís first new signee after that Era?? Anyway he isnít good enough and he was in the team which was relegated. Also funny our form dipped immediately he came back into the squad this season. Worst piece of defending (as an ex defender) I have ever seen from him was in 1game, when he left an attacking player in front of him, to run back to the goal line, to get back into position!!

I also,think it is not a coincidence that our form now has now gone back up now he isnít playing??

KC needs to get rid ASAP..


Obviously a player who causes more problems, I believe than what he solves??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 14, 2019, 19:11:18 pm
I was much maligned last year when I said that Taylor was not our best player, his poor attitude and abysmal distribution invited on pressure and increased pressure on those around him in already high pressure situations.

Taylor is a defender where if you put together a highlight reel on all his last minute blocks and tackles he looks world class, but that does not tell the full story. I think he is far from captain material and is often in poor positions. This probably comes form his lack in faith in those around him and feeling like he needs to do it all himself but the crooks of it is we are considerably worse with him in the team.

The above may not be true, but it is the way I feel. He definitely seems to unsettle the players around him, and I generally feel more confident going into games where he isn't on the pitch.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Saint Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 19:14:33 pm
So is this why he was voted player of the season last season?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 14, 2019, 19:37:43 pm
I donít post here often, because I canít be arsed with some of the childish comments which I often read here. We are ARE all Cobblers supporters, so should get on which each other, for the good of the club, without resorting to names, or the my opinion is better than yours one..

Anyway, for me personally, the downward spiral from Wilders achievements was when we signed Taylor. If I recall correctly wasnít he Pageís first new signee after that Era?? Anyway he isnít good enough and he was in the team which was relegated. Also funny our form dipped immediately he came back into the squad this season. Worst piece of defending (as an ex defender) I have ever seen from him was in 1game, when he left an attacking player in front of him, to run back to the goal line, to get back into position!!

I also,think it is not a coincidence that our form now has now gone back up now he isnít playing??

KC needs to get rid ASAP..


Obviously a player who causes more problems, I believe than what he solves??

Taylor was signed in the summer of 2017 by Justin Edinburgh.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Wolvo on January 14, 2019, 20:25:35 pm
So is this why he was voted player of the season last season?

A goalkeeper or centre back always win player of the season in a relegation season. I dare say odonnell or Ingram would've walked it if they played as many matches.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2019, 20:39:21 pm
Well I can't remeber anyone saying it would happen straight away.

But the only reason Curle would not replace him in the next 14 says is if he has already written this season off, this having a proper go in the summer.




Hilarious back tracking .
Where are all the others hiding in the woodwork that were so sure KC would replace our keeper ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 20:53:24 pm
Hilarious back tracking .
Where are all the others hiding in the woodwork that were so sure KC would replace our keeper ?

Not at all!



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Patmore on January 14, 2019, 21:51:52 pm
So , where are all those on here that said the first thing KC would do in the January window is sign a keeper ?
Itís more likely we get an offer for our keeper

😂😂😂 Get an offer for him!!! 😂😂😂

Brilliant.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 22:12:57 pm
So is this why he was voted player of the season last season?

Precisely - I reckon the sms* has struck a few on here.

*short memory syndrome.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 22:21:37 pm
😂😂😂 Get an offer for him!!! 😂😂😂

Brilliant.

He's back Frank! ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 14, 2019, 22:28:36 pm
Precisely - I reckon the sms* has struck a few on here.

*short memory syndrome.

I called him a poor mans Zakuani last year ans was slated for it. I dont think je was anywhere near our best player, i think he invited pressure and unsettled the defence.

He was player of the season because him shouting at the defence shows he cares.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 14, 2019, 22:42:15 pm
I do remember the big sorry was that someone would poach him in the summer, and everyone was desperate to get rid of Van Veen, time does really change perspective. He's done a reverse Langmead.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 14, 2019, 23:11:18 pm
😂😂😂 Get an offer for him!!! 😂😂😂

Brilliant.

Well I did here Brackley were after s back up keeper, so you never know 😂😂😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 14, 2019, 23:27:41 pm
Precisely - I reckon the sms* has struck a few on here.

*short memory syndrome.

Are there any first team players that you don't think are good enough to play for the Cobblers currently Evers? This is not a dig, just find your perpetual positivity intriguing!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2019, 23:43:56 pm
Are there any first team players that you don't think are good enough to play for the Cobblers currently Evers? This is not a dig, just find your perpetual positivity intriguing!


After Sat none - it would be churlish to knock any player.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2019, 09:28:05 am
Would be interested to know the record this season with and without Taylor.

I believe that since Curle arrived...

Games Taylor started...Ö...
P12 W1 D7 L4
Goals for 13
Goals Against 17

Games Taylor didn't start...
P11 W7 D2 L2
Goals for 23
Goals Against 10


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 15, 2019, 10:00:17 am
I believe that since Curle arrived...

Games Taylor started...Ö...
P12 W1 D7 L4
Goals for 13
Goals Against 17

Games Taylor didn't start...
P11 W7 D2 L2
Goals for 23
Goals Against 10

Wow that is incredible!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 15, 2019, 10:01:07 am
I believe that since Curle arrived...

Games Taylor started...Ö...
P12 W1 D7 L4
Goals for 13
Goals Against 17

Games Taylor didn't start...
P11 W7 D2 L2
Goals for 23
Goals Against 10
They are pretty damming statistics.  


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2019, 10:13:34 am
They are pretty damming statistics.  

We could be around the play off assuming we performed the same all season without him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2019, 10:24:08 am
More detail is here:

https://twitter.com/CobblerEd27/status/1084548594944954368

Same source "We have 22 points from a possible 30 without Taylor in the side, compared to 11 from 36 when he does play."


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 15, 2019, 10:42:13 am
More detail is here:

https://twitter.com/CobblerEd27/status/1084548594944954368

Same source "We have 22 points from a possible 30 without Taylor in the side, compared to 11 from 36 when he does play."

Surely KC realises that AT is a liability when in the side...

It's not just his own poor form but the fact that he completely unsettles the whole team when he plays...

After initially thinking we had no chance of a win on Saturday, my hopes were considerably raised on my walk to the stadium, hearing that AT wasn't playing...

The fact is, a home grown 18 year old on his full home debut showed more composure and quality distribution, than AT has all season...

If he gets straight back in the team when fit again then KC will lose all respect...

This isn't a witch hunt against the fella but it's blatantly obvious we're a much better team when he's not in it.

Really hope he goes during this window/Summer window but as DA said on his twitter q & a the other weekend, no-one showed any interest in taking Taylor during last Summer & I can see why....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2019, 10:46:33 am


Really hope he goes during this window/Summer window but as DA said on his twitter q & a the other weekend, no-one showed any interest in taking Taylor during last Summer & I can see why....


He's got 18 months left on his contract.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 15, 2019, 11:22:57 am
He's got 18 months left on his contract.
They canít come quick enough. I get the feeling Curlio is going to keep rotating him in. I still think heís a decent player and canít entirely put my finger on what happens, but whatever it is he definitely fcuks us up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 15, 2019, 11:35:54 am
I believe that since Curle arrived...

Games Taylor started...Ö...
P12 W1 D7 L4
Goals for 13
Goals Against 17

Games Taylor didn't start...
P11 W7 D2 L2
Goals for 23
Goals Against 10

I made a few posts about Taylor's (and Buchs') stats months ago, prior to Curle coming in. Some more damning stats:

.....

Since August last year Taylor and Buchanan have been easily our most regular players at the back by some stretch. In that time they have started 42 league matches at the same time for a total of 76 goals conceded! This is a shocking record and speaks volumes. Despite how often they berate team mates after we concede IMO they are our the most culpable members of the squad by far.

I also find it interesting that both backed Austin for the job and Buchanan at least was reinstated in the team by him after the sacking of JFH despite the large defensive improvement whilst he was out of the side. It should also noted that JFH attempted to resolve the LB issue before the January window, by playing first George Smith and then Hanley in front of Buchs to seemingly give him some protection, so he obviously saw this position as a big cause for concern early on in his tenure. It should also be noted that JFH dropped Buchanan from not only the XI but the 18. Was Buchanan injured? If not then I think this is pretty telling. Austin was JFH's assistant but his actions as manager show that he clearly did not agree with him regarding this.

Further to this, Austin was seemingly happy to drop certain player due to one or two off-colour performances but others retained their place however bad they played and also seemed immune from criticism even at the very end. I can't help but think that something stinks about this whole situation.

......


......
Since the promotion season we have played 100 league games. Buchs is the player who has started by far the most of those matches, in 85 of the 100. In those 85 we have conceded 142 goals, an average of 1.7 a game. This is quite simply a terrible goals conceded average.

Hasselbaink attempted to change the obvious problem at LB in January by bringing in Bunney and (rightly IMO) dropping Buchs. However Bunney made some early errors and his confidence seemingly got shot to bits. This wasn't helped by the fans getting on his back and chanting for Buchs, despite the massive overall defensive improvement during Bunney's run in the side.
....



Taylor and Buchanan were the only players who were regular starters in the back four during both of the worse runs of defensive form last season.

In the 32 matches where both Taylor and Buchanan played together we conceded 59 goals, an average of just under 2 goals per game.

Last seasons final average was 77 conceded in 46, or roughly 1.66 goals per match.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wingman on January 15, 2019, 12:24:58 pm
They are pretty damming statistics.  

says it all really, should not have been brought back into the team so quickly, i still think he is a bad influence on the morale of the younger players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2019, 12:37:03 pm
says it all really, should not have been brought back into the team so quickly, i still think he is a bad influence on the morale of the younger players.

Oddofin in-particular looks a different player with him not in the side.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 15, 2019, 13:13:05 pm
There really is a lot of unqualified rubbish talked on here about Taylor which people spout off as though it is gospel truth .
You really do have no idea whether he is a good or bad influence on the team unless you are in that changing room. I would suggest not many know what sort of character he is or whether he is a positive person in the team.
He must have something going for him to be named captain and for Austin to refuse to let him go in the summer .
I am not particularly defending his performances this season, the statistics donít lie and he travels from Merseyside but he did perform well last season when all is said and done.
I just think the criticism is a bit over the top .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest2090 on January 15, 2019, 13:18:28 pm
There really is a lot of unqualified rubbish talked on here about Taylor which people spout off as though it is gospel truth .
You really do have no idea whether he is a good or bad influence on the team unless you are in that changing room. I would suggest not many know what sort of character he is or whether he is a positive person in the team.
He must have something going for him to be named captain and for Austin to refuse to let him go in the summer .
I am not particularly defending his performances this season, the statistics donít lie and he travels from Merseyside but he did perform well last season when all is said and done.
I just think the criticism is a bit over the top .

what doesn't help him is the way he publicly berates fellow players when the goals have gone in.  i have no idea what he is saying, but it doesn't seem to be overly positive or motivational to me.

the stats don't lie, without him, we have had significantly better results this season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 15, 2019, 13:21:20 pm
There really is a lot of unqualified rubbish talked on here about Taylor which people spout off as though it is gospel truth .
You really do have no idea whether he is a good or bad influence on the team unless you are in that changing room. I would suggest not many know what sort of character he is or whether he is a positive person in the team.
He must have something going for him to be named captain and for Austin to refuse to let him go in the summer .
I am not particularly defending his performances this season, the statistics donít lie and he travels from Merseyside but he did perform well last season when all is said and done.
I just think the criticism is a bit over the top .

I do agree although stats don't lie, there is an awful lot of over the top criticism


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 15, 2019, 13:30:15 pm
The one thing I don't agree with is directly @ messaging players slagging them off on Twitter, mainly because the player is on a hiding to nothing in that scenario as any retort will be picked up and reported as a 'spat'.

Other than that I'm not sure Ash Taylor reads message boards, or searches for himself on social media. If he does then that's kind of his own fault...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Cobbler1991 on January 15, 2019, 13:36:18 pm
I believe that since Curle arrived...

Games Taylor started...Ö...
P12 W1 D7 L4
Goals for 13
Goals Against 17

Games Taylor didn't start...
P11 W7 D2 L2
Goals for 23
Goals Against 10

Based off above, if we replicate these over a season based on averages, with Taylor in the team since Curle arrived, we've been getting 0.83 points per game which would result in a total of 38 points over a 46 game season. Without him in the team, we would be averaging pretty much 2.10 points per game and be on course for 96 points were we to maintain that average over the season. Even allowing for a considerable lapse in form, that is the sort of form one expects from a club in the top three. I do hate picking on one particular player (I even felt sorry for Danny Alfei), but the numbers don't lie.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 15, 2019, 13:52:46 pm
what doesn't help him is the way he publicly berates fellow players when the goals have gone in.  i have no idea what he is saying, but it doesn't seem to be overly positive or motivational to me.

the stats don't lie, without him, we have had significantly better results this season.
So does Buchanan and Matt Taylor did the same .
Often Buchanan throws his arms up at something which he could have prevented !
You donít know , unless you play in the team how this may or may not affect people.
Taylor is not a terrible player like say for example Sinclair or Alfei but is out of form . I think Sampson hasnít helped his cause by publicly slating him on the radio.
Heís got 18 months to go and I doubt heís off in this window so heís here for a while .
Letís compare Jay Williams to Taylor when he comes up against a bruiser who can head the ball.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 15, 2019, 14:11:00 pm
there is an awful lot of over the top criticism
😁 For Dave Cornell.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 15, 2019, 14:20:21 pm
😁 For Dave Cornell.

No not overtop.

Just honest.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 15, 2019, 14:30:00 pm
There really is a lot of unqualified rubbish talked on here about Taylor which people spout off as though it is gospel truth .
You really do have no idea whether he is a good or bad influence on the team unless you are in that changing room. I would suggest not many know what sort of character he is or whether he is a positive person in the team.
He must have something going for him to be named captain and for Austin to refuse to let him go in the summer .
I am not particularly defending his performances this season, the statistics donít lie and he travels from Merseyside but he did perform well last season when all is said and done.
I just think the criticism is a bit over the top .

It's called having an opinion... ;D

I agree, no need get personal with any player, but the facts do speak for themselves...

No idea what type of character he is in the dressing room, but it's plain to see when he plays, the whole team are alot more anxious esp the defensive unit as a whole.

Oh, and Austin did not refuse to let him go in the Summer, there was simply no interest from any clubs regarding AT (direct from DA on twitter)

I just hope he moves on for all concerned as we're certainly not getting value for the money with his performances this season so far...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 15, 2019, 14:44:21 pm
Curle must surely be aware of the stats with / without Taylor. Why did he keep picking him, does he believe it to be a coincidence? Is he confident that he knows the reasons for those defeats and is comfortable Taylor wasn't a cause? I think if I was in Curle's shoes I'd have taken him out for a couple of games to see, maybe the latest injury has helped him with that.

Part of the problem with Taylor and the fan base is that has pretty much become the accepted truth amongst the fans that he is a bad egg / has an attitude problem. When he was out earlier in the season all the talk around the ground on match days were that Curle bombed him out due to his attitude, or that him and Barnett had a punch up and were both sent away from the squad. It is all classic 2+2 = ?. The stuff about him swearing and storming off on Saturday was presented originally as though it was an eye witness account, only later for that person to back track to it being relayed from a 'reliable source'. It's a bit like a newspaper running an inflammatory front page and apologising a day later on page 16, the damage is done.

It might all be true but as Boot & Shoe says who knows. There is a lot of talk on here (and twitter) about players who don't care or have a bad attitude when none of us know if it is true at all, but it absolutely sticks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 15, 2019, 15:00:13 pm
It's called having an opinion... ;D

I agree, no need get personal with any player, but the facts do speak for themselves...

No idea what type of character he is in the dressing room, but it's plain to see when he plays, the whole team are alot more anxious esp the defensive unit as a whole.

Oh, and Austin did not refuse to let him go in the Summer, there was simply no interest from any clubs regarding AT (direct from DA on twitter)

I just hope he moves on for all concerned as we're certainly not getting value for the money with his performances this season so far...
Austin did refuse to let Taylor go because he wanted to leave . There may well have been no offers like there were no acceptable offers for other players , but the fact is they didnít want to lose him .
Iím not here to defend Taylor but donít present supposition as fact


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2019, 15:32:31 pm
Curle must surely be aware of the stats with / without Taylor. Why did he keep picking him, does he believe it to be a coincidence? Is he confident that he knows the reasons for those defeats and is comfortable Taylor wasn't a cause? I think if I was in Curle's shoes I'd have taken him out for a couple of games to see, maybe the latest injury has helped him with that.

Part of the problem with Taylor and the fan base is that has pretty much become the accepted truth amongst the fans that he is a bad egg / has an attitude problem. When he was out earlier in the season all the talk around the ground on match days were that Curle bombed him out due to his attitude, or that him and Barnett had a punch up and were both sent away from the squad. It is all classic 2+2 = ?. The stuff about him swearing and storming off on Saturday was presented originally as though it was an eye witness account, only later for that person to back track to it being relayed from a 'reliable source'. It's a bit like a newspaper running an inflammatory front page and apologising a day later on page 16, the damage is done.

It might all be true but as Boot & Shoe says who knows. There is a lot of talk on here (and twitter) about players who don't care or have a bad attitude when none of us know if it is true at all, but it absolutely sticks.

Actually I support B&S stance on Taylor and share your comments about unsubstantiated rumour presented as facts. This from posters who clearly have a personal agenda who will do anything to paint Taylor in a poor light. The same happened to vV , Crooks ; still ongoing
with Cornell and Hoskins. Its shameful one sided abuse\hate call it what you like on our own players. Some of it is called opinion but to any educated poster it isn't. Deepcut used to intervene to caution against posters who used their opinions as facts.; what happened to that admirable discipline?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 15, 2019, 15:33:16 pm
For a transfer rumour thread, there's an awful lot of non transfer chatter  :D :D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 15, 2019, 15:45:29 pm
Have we lost the sixfields pen 🖊 again?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: CobblerForever on January 15, 2019, 16:37:27 pm
Have we lost the sixfields pen 🖊 again?

Lost at a Motorway Services stop somewhere close to Sixfields !

Those remembering the old County Ground facilities and the tactics employed to sign players will get this.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 15, 2019, 16:49:41 pm
I do agree although stats don't lie, there is an awful lot of over the top criticism

'Stats don't lie' - are you sure about that? 78% of statistics are made up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 15, 2019, 16:54:37 pm
Whatever criticism I've made of Taylor previously I've always maintained that if he can return to the form he showed in the firsts couple of months of last season then he would be a very decent player at this level. I'm also much happier with Curle managing the squad and any possible 'egos' within it than I was Austin, so I'm not too concerned with possibly dressing room disharmony now either.

Taylor's distribution though............... :o


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2019, 17:09:52 pm
Lost at a Motorway Services stop somewhere close to Sixfields !

Those remembering the old County Ground facilities and the tactics employed to sign players will get this.


Holton and Alec Ashworth were prime examples of that . Ashworth being signed I believe on the Sat morning before we played Notts County. The signing really upset Notts County who believed they were going to sign Ashworth. Great days.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2019, 17:23:57 pm
Actually I support B&S stance on Taylor and share your comments about unsubstantiated rumour presented as facts. This from posters who clearly have a personal agenda who will do anything to paint Taylor in a poor light. The same happened to vV , Crooks ; still ongoing
with Cornell and Hoskins. Its shameful one sided abuse\hate call it what you like on our own players. Some of it is called opinion but to any educated poster it isn't. Deepcut used to intervene to caution against posters who used their opinions as facts.; what happened to that admirable discipline?

The unsubstantiated rumour was he swore after being asked to sign autographs. No such rumour has been spread about the other players you mention.

Presentong stats about the team with Taylor in the side is not unsubstatiated, nor is commenting that he berates young players around him.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2019, 17:25:24 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/CtCvPnG/20190115-172354.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fS6tDCw)


Stole this from favebook , several faces I dont know there.

Apparently trialists, taken today.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 15, 2019, 17:51:26 pm
Yeah there was a friendly today


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2019, 18:27:57 pm
The unsubstantiated rumour was he swore after being asked to sign autographs. No such rumour has been spread about the other players you mention.

Presentong stats about the team with Taylor in the side is not unsubstatiated, nor is commenting that he berates young players around him.


You are missing the point : ignoring for the moment the alledged Taylor comments, it is a fact that  Cornell, vV and Hoskins suffered some unfair critical comments, even abuse. The players in question were not of course involved in the Taylor incident  ::) . Yes/No?

I go along with some of the criticism of Taylor although I am a little sceptical of the facts displayed on here. TBH I am not sure what you are driving at in your last para as I did not comment on Taylor berating young players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 15, 2019, 18:59:52 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/CtCvPnG/20190115-172354.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fS6tDCw)


Stole this from favebook , several faces I dont know there.

Apparently trialists, taken today.

Hmmm... anybody want to hazard some guesses as to who they are?


Pretty sure 15 is Cam McWilliams


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 15, 2019, 19:01:19 pm
Larnell Cole maybe?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: mr3teas on January 15, 2019, 20:02:14 pm
There was two men walking away from Asda kingsthorpe at dinner time both had notts county coats on I would definitely say they were players


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 15, 2019, 20:05:05 pm
We are aiming high
Trialists and players deemed surplus to requirements by the leagues bottom club!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: mr3teas on January 15, 2019, 20:11:35 pm
At a guess looking at players photos on the notts county website could have been shaun brisley and Jon stead


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 15, 2019, 20:15:33 pm
At a guess looking at players photos on the notts county website could have been shaun brisley and Jon stead

2 for the future!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 15, 2019, 20:23:40 pm
Jamie Turley...just turned down new contract offer from Notts County. Lad in centre looks very much like him (15 is Cam McWilliams)

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/notts-county-confirm-jamie-turleys-2426408 (https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/notts-county-confirm-jamie-turleys-2426408)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lodgeadam on January 15, 2019, 22:27:58 pm
There really is a lot of unqualified rubbish talked on here about Taylor which people spout off as though it is gospel truth .
You really do have no idea whether he is a good or bad influence on the team unless you are in that changing room. I would suggest not many know what sort of character he is or whether he is a positive person in the team.
He must have something going for him to be named captain and for Austin to refuse to let him go in the summer .
I am not particularly defending his performances this season, the statistics donít lie and he travels from Merseyside but he did perform well last season when all is said and done.
I just think the criticism is a bit over the top .

Seeing him tell the north stand to **** off after he comically messed up a clearance tells me everything I need to know thanks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 15, 2019, 23:11:08 pm
Jamie Turley...just turned down new contract offer from Notts County. Lad in centre looks very much like him (15 is Cam McWilliams)

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/notts-county-confirm-jamie-turleys-2426408 (https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/notts-county-confirm-jamie-turleys-2426408)

Can't see us signing a defender from a team who have shipped over 2 goals a game in league 2 this season. Makes our defensive record look good!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 15, 2019, 23:25:59 pm
Can't see us signing a defender from a team who have shipped over 2 goals a game in league 2 this season. Makes our defensive record look good!

I can...

Nice cheap option if Pierre is next to leave #housekeeping


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 16, 2019, 09:34:59 am
Given the lack of updates are we to assume that the bid for the unnamed player that KC said was made last Friday has been turned down? This friendly that took place yesterday with multiple trialists smacks a bit of desperation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 09:49:40 am
Given the lack of updates are we to assume that the bid for the unnamed player that KC said was made last Friday has been turned down? This friendly that took place yesterday with multiple trialists smacks a bit of desperation.

Or there seems to be a lot of players having contracts mutually terminated at the moment 2 for Wolves yesterday, Larnell Cole at Tranmere, The lad already mentioned from Notts County.

Maybe we are just taking the opportunity to run the rule over a few of these?

If we are going to be in need of players with others potentially leaving it seems like decent practise to me.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 16, 2019, 09:49:44 am
Sounds like we are in the bargain basement for players .
Before the season started I was told by a senior member at the club we would finish no higher than mid table .
I disputed that at the time but he said the squad was so badly unbalanced it would take three windows to turn it around .
Right now that sounds optimistic !


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 16, 2019, 09:50:47 am
Given the lack of updates are we to assume that the bid for the unnamed player that KC said was made last Friday has been turned down? This friendly that took place yesterday with multiple trialists smacks a bit of desperation.
Im not sure it smack desperation... I'd rather KC had a good look at these players, than just sign them and hope for the best


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 16, 2019, 09:57:41 am
Or there seems to be a lot of players having contracts mutually terminated at the moment 2 for Wolves yesterday, Larnell Cole at Tranmere, The lad already mentioned from Notts County.

Maybe we are just take the opportunity to run the rule over a few of these?

If we are going to be in need of players with others potentially leaving it seems like decent practise to me.

Agree, what's the point of paying over the odds for someone now? (January is notoriously a sellers market)

We certainly ain't going up this season & hopefully not the other way either, so I'd rather we make sure we've enough in the squad to cover should any other players leave, and then give proper game time to the likes of Cam McWilliams & Morgan Roberts etc once we've 46ish points.

Proper recruitment will start in the Summer...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 16, 2019, 10:36:45 am
Sounds like we are in the bargain basement for players .
Before the season started I was told by a senior member at the club we would finish no higher than mid table .
I disputed that at the time but he said the squad was so badly unbalanced it would take three windows to turn it around .
Right now that sounds optimistic !

didnt need a senior club member to tell you that surely!?!
we could all see it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 16, 2019, 10:43:06 am
didnt need a senior club member to tell you that surely!?!
we could all see it.

I didnít see or hear many people saying we would finish mid table before a ball was kicked .
Most thought we had a squad good enough to be challenging , including the bookies .
Some on here were even predicting top 6 about a month ago ( they seem to have gone quiet ).
I do agree we shouldnít panic in this window . Letís blood some youngsters and see how they get on .
Bridge and Williams have stepped up so far , letís see how the others get on


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 16, 2019, 11:25:09 am
I didnít see or hear many people saying we would finish mid table before a ball was kicked .
Most thought we had a squad good enough to be challenging , including the bookies .
Some on here were even predicting top 6 about a month ago ( they seem to have gone quiet ).
I do agree we shouldnít panic in this window . Letís blood some youngsters and see how they get on .
Bridge and Williams have stepped up so far , letís see how the others get on
At the start I thought weíd go straight back up, after about 4 games I was adamant we would get relegated, after about 12 games I thought weíd make the play offs. Now I reckon weíll finish mid table. Basically Iíve had us up and down more times than a tarts knickers, what does it all mean?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 16, 2019, 11:30:29 am

Bridge and Williams have stepped up so far , letís see how the others get on
Bridge has had one good game and while Williams is on a decent run his poor start to the season means heís still only on for a very average goal haul this season.
For me Pierre and Turnbull have been our two best players with a special mention to Cornell who I had my doubts about but nice to be proved wrong so far this season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 16, 2019, 11:33:32 am
Bridge has had one good game and while Williams is on a decent run his poor start to the season means heís still only on for a very average goal haul this season.
For me Pierre and Turnbull have been our two best players with a special mention to Cornell who I had my doubts about but nice to be proved wrong so far this season.

I may be wrong but I assume he means Jay Williams not Andy.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 16, 2019, 11:37:59 am
I may be wrong but I assume he means Jay Williams not Andy.

you are right - andy williams is not a youngster


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 16, 2019, 11:41:42 am
Ah yes apologies. 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 16, 2019, 11:50:57 am
I didnít see or hear many people saying we would finish mid table before a ball was kicked .
Most thought we had a squad good enough to be challenging , including the bookies .
Some on here were even predicting top 6 about a month ago ( they seem to have gone quiet ).
I do agree we shouldnít panic in this window . Letís blood some youngsters and see how they get on .
Bridge and Williams have stepped up so far , letís see how the others get on

I was one of those and while I concede at this point a top 7 finish is at this point in time looking very unlikely (but not impossible) I haven't changed my mind one bit on my estimation of the quality of the squad as it stood at the start of the season.

Under Austin the team won once and only got 7 points from 10 matches. An absolutely horrendous run, which extrapolated for 28 matches, would have seen us bottom of the table. For this I place the blame almost entirely on Austin who, while perhaps a good coach, I am of the opinion was incompetent as a manager.

Under Curle the team has 26 points from 18 matches, a little under 1.5 points a game, which extrapolated for a whole season would see the team almost reach 70 points, likely finish in the top 10 and be within touching distance of the play-off places. We have only lost 3 of those 18 matches and are still unbeaten at home in the league in his tenure. Considering that Morias has been unavailable for most of Curle's reign also I believe the team would have registered more points if he had been playing over the full course of those 18 matches.

I believe there isn't a great deal of competition in this league and I maintain the current squad (as Curle's record shows) even without Crooks and Van Veen is much closer to play-off standard than it's position would suggest but unfortunately the terrible run during Austin's tenure has ultimately probably left too much ground to make up this year.

I'm not one for giving up while anything is mathematically possible though.  ;D



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 16, 2019, 12:00:04 pm
I was one of those and while I concede at this point a top 7 finish is at this point in time looking very unlikely (but not impossible) I haven't changed my mind one bit on my estimation of the quality of the squad as it stood at the start of the season.

Under Austin the team won once and only got 7 points from 10 matches. An absolutely horrendous run, which extrapolated for 28 matches, would have seen us bottom of the table. For this I place the blame almost entirely on Austin who, while perhaps a good coach, I am of the opinion was incompetent as a manager.

Under Curle the team has 26 points from 18 matches, a little under 1.5 points a game, which extrapolated for a whole season would see the team almost reach 70 points, likely finish in the top 10 and be within touching distance of the play-off places. We have only lost 3 of those 18 matches and are still unbeaten at home in the league in his tenure. Considering that Morias has been unavailable for most of Curle's reign also I believe the team would have registered more points if he had been playing over the full course of those 18 matches.

I believe there isn't a great deal of competition in this league and I maintain the current squad (as Curle's record shows) even without Crooks and Van Veen is much closer to play-off standard than it's position would suggest but unfortunately the terrible run during Austin's tenure has ultimately probably left too much ground to make up this year.

I'm not one for giving up while anything is mathematically possible though.  ;D



Cheers Mr Oglethorpe!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 16, 2019, 12:16:02 pm
🖊???


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 16, 2019, 12:31:28 pm
Chris Lines


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 12:38:43 pm
Chris Lines

He's very useful - Always been very impressed with him when we have played Rovers  - Would be a decent addition if in anyway true


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 16, 2019, 12:43:31 pm
I predicted 10th at best  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 16, 2019, 12:47:04 pm
Bridge has had one good game and while Williams is on a decent run his poor start to the season means heís still only on for a very average goal haul this season.
For me Pierre and Turnbull have been our two best players with a special mention to Cornell who I had my doubts about but nice to be proved wrong so far this season.
I am talking about blooding the younger players . Jay Williams not Andy Williams .
Yes , Bridge has had a good game as has Williams but give them a chance to shine when there is nothing to play for rather than bring in journeymen in January .
Simple point really


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 12:48:03 pm
Chris Lines

Why? Why would he come to us? At his age? playing regular football at his home club? Even if he was out of contract at the end of the year...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 13:01:58 pm
Why? Why would he come to us? At his age? playing regular football at his home club? Even if he was out of contract at the end of the year...

Maybe if he knows his contract is not being renewed at Rovers and we have from example an 18 month contract on the table at 33?


That maybe the only reason he would drop to us?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 14:41:47 pm
Why? Why would he come to us? At his age? playing regular football at his home club? Even if he was out of contract at the end of the year...

Maybe some sort ig deal seeing J J  O'T go the other way?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 16, 2019, 14:43:49 pm
Why? Why would he come to us? At his age? playing regular football at his home club? Even if he was out of contract at the end of the year...
Just throwing it out there as a maybe. It is a rumour thread.
PS: He's not playing regularly for his team so would be open to a move away... maybe.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 14:46:40 pm
Ok so by that logic, Are you going to name every player in L1 and L2 who are not playing regularly (18 games this season with being ill recently btw)
Ill give you till tomorrow, as thats a pretty long list for you to write out.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 16, 2019, 14:50:17 pm
Or there seems to be a lot of players having contracts mutually terminated at the moment 2 for Wolves yesterday, Larnell Cole at Tranmere, The lad already mentioned from Notts County.

Maybe we are just taking the opportunity to run the rule over a few of these?

If we are going to be in need of players with others potentially leaving it seems like decent practise to me.

Actually Irchy Glasto comment is sensible; of course we should run the eye over available players and I am glad the Manager is broadening his options.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 16, 2019, 14:56:39 pm
Basically Iíve had us up and down more times than a tarts knickers, what does it all mean?

 ;D try cultivating a promising relationship with a Sapphic woman? Remember you are a Cobblers supporter so anything should be popular  possible 8)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 16, 2019, 14:57:36 pm
Maybe some sort ig deal seeing J J  O'T go the other way?

Not sure Rovers would want him back going by their opinions when we signed him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 16, 2019, 15:04:42 pm

I'm not one for giving up while anything is mathematically possible though.  ;D



Well Richard as a Cobblers supporter it is perhaps wise too err on caution if suggesting a play off place is possible. However we have done it before and no doubt we will do it again. Insert the magic word "hope" more often.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 16, 2019, 16:20:12 pm
Ok so by that logic, Are you going to name every player in L1 and L2 who are not playing regularly (18 games this season with being ill recently btw)
Ill give you till tomorrow, as thats a pretty long list for you to write out.

Any volunteers to write out every ex player that is still playing ? , that could save us some time  ;D ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: claretarmy on January 16, 2019, 16:37:42 pm
I've just had a look at the last seven seasons in League Two and this is what it took to get 7th place and ultimately a play off berth.

11-12 72pts
12-13 69pts (Bradford promoted, the year they breezed past Northampton)
13-14 71pts
14-15 71pts
15-16 75pts
16-17 70pts
17-18 75pts

So if (I will leave it to the individual to work out how big the if is!) Northampton can find a bit of form there is no reason why they can't get an average of 2pts a game between now and the end of the season. This would put them on 71pts, and going by the last few seasons, 71pts might end up being a top 7 finish.

As this is the 'ins and outs' thread I better mention something about signings. I think that if 70+ points is to be achieved one or two players will need to be signed in this window.

Keep believing!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 17:00:59 pm
Not sure Rovers would want him back going by their opinions when we signed him.

I think the reality is that they were more upset that has left them with them being relegated. He had a barn storming year that last year with them scoring about 15 goals. Not sure if there new manager was there as a coach at the time J J was?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 16, 2019, 18:27:23 pm
Well Richard as a Cobblers supporter it is perhaps wise too err on caution if suggesting a play off place is possible. However we have done it before and no doubt we will do it again. Insert the magic word "hope" more often.

Who is 'Richard'?
Use the usernames provided like everyone else...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 16, 2019, 19:33:29 pm
I've just had a look at the last seven seasons in League Two and this is what it took to get 7th place and ultimately a play off berth.

11-12 72pts
12-13 69pts (Bradford promoted, the year they breezed past Northampton)
13-14 71pts
14-15 71pts
15-16 75pts
16-17 70pts
17-18 75pts

So if (I will leave it to the individual to work out how big the if is!) Northampton can find a bit of form there is no reason why they can't get an average of 2pts a game between now and the end of the season. This would put them on 71pts, and going by the last few seasons, 71pts might end up being a top 7 finish.

As this is the 'ins and outs' thread I better mention something about signings. I think that if 70+ points is to be achieved one or two players will need to be signed in this window.

Keep believing!
It would take an immediate run of say 7 straight wins in which to claw back the deficit in which to launch a serious challenge.  So thats 1 down 6 to go!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 16, 2019, 20:13:54 pm
I've just had a look at the last seven seasons in League Two and this is what it took to get 7th place and ultimately a play off berth.

11-12 72pts
12-13 69pts (Bradford promoted, the year they breezed past Northampton)
13-14 71pts
14-15 71pts
15-16 75pts
16-17 70pts
17-18 75pts

So if (I will leave it to the individual to work out how big the if is!) Northampton can find a bit of form there is no reason why they can't get an average of 2pts a game between now and the end of the season. This would put them on 71pts, and going by the last few seasons, 71pts might end up being a top 7 finish.

As this is the 'ins and outs' thread I better mention something about signings. I think that if 70+ points is to be achieved one or two players will need to be signed in this window.

Keep believing!

These show that the points tally under Curle so far would have been just about enough to possibly scrape in if it hadn't been for the disastrous first 10 matches under Austin.

I think to sneak in the team needs a little over a 2 point a game average from the remaining 18 matches, so a minimum of 10 wins from those really. Very tough, but far from impossible.

Like you say a couple of signings needed to give the squad a boost and if/when they come in, then who knows what can happen?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 16, 2019, 21:12:44 pm
Maybe if he knows his contract is not being renewed at Rovers and we have from example an 18 month contract on the table at 33?


That maybe the only reason he would drop to us?
Here's another one. He's not automatic choice anymore.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 16, 2019, 21:22:39 pm
;D try cultivating a promising relationship with a Sapphic woman? Remember you are a Cobblers supporter so anything should be popular  possible 8)
Or preferably 2 and live the dream?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 16, 2019, 22:21:34 pm
These show that the points tally under Curle so far would have been just about enough to possibly scrape in if it hadn't been for the disastrous first 10 matches under Austin.

I think to sneak in the team needs a little over a 2 point a game average from the remaining 18 matches, so a minimum of 10 wins from those really. Very tough, but far from impossible.

Like you say a couple of signings needed to give the squad a boost and if/when they come in, then who knows what can happen?
I canít believe what Iím reading .
Have you actually seen the points tally since December or how we have been playing up until Saturday ?
We are not play off contenders in terms of form or performances , even before we lost our best two players . Itís not going to happen this season .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 17, 2019, 07:40:32 am
even before we lost our best two players . Itís not going to happen this season .

arguably our best 2 players....................we had our best result of the season without them both.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 17, 2019, 09:08:39 am
arguably our best 2 players....................we had our best result of the season without them both.

Agreed , but they were still our best two players in terms of talent .
Thatís why they were poached funnily enough .
Iím not saying we canít be a better team without them though


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 17, 2019, 13:43:53 pm
I canít believe what Iím reading .
Have you actually seen the points tally since December or how we have been playing up until Saturday ?
We are not play off contenders in terms of form or performances , even before we lost our best two players . Itís not going to happen this season .

What has the points tally since December got to do with anything? You're choosing this period arbitrarily.

I replied to your post where you said that those who thought the team were capable of promotion earlier in the season had gone quiet, pointing out these stats:

Under Austin: 10 games = 7 points. 28 games of this form would have seen us firmly in bottom spot.
Under Curle: 18 games = 26 points. 28 games of this form would have seen us sitting from 8th-9th.

We have only lost 3 league games from 18 under Curle and are still unbeaten at home in that time.

The teams form so far under Curle would make them contenders for the play-offs, if it wasn't for the disastrous run during Austins regime. I maintain this form is more reflective of the squads ability, and expect this form to at least be carried on for the rest of the season, but possibly even improve.

Very few of the teams in the top 10 look to possess any more quality than us, bar MK and perhaps Lincoln and Mansfield.

As I said in my earlier post it's likely they won't make the play-offs as it stands, but I fancy them to finish on 60+ points and not be far off them at the end. If Curle had been appointed in the summer with the squad we had and still have, I'm convinced we would have been in the top 7 this year.

I agree that VV and Crooks were our most talented players but paradoxically I don't think we'll miss them much at all. Conversely Morias has only returned in recent weeks and still feels like a new signing, so the VV gap already feels 'filled'. Crooks was too inconsistent and in and out of the XI anyway. We have also strengthened the left back slot and it sounds like there are more signings to come. We could well be stronger in the final 18 than in the last 18 games.

And knows what could happen, we might win 8 of the next 10! Much stranger things have happened in football. Heaven forbid someone should be optimistic though, eh?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 17, 2019, 14:03:50 pm
Someone in today according to a Twitter rumour...no name mentioned...could be bollox


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 17, 2019, 14:20:51 pm
Someone in today according to a Twitter rumour...no name mentioned...could be bollox
it depends on who's tweeting and what evidence they basing this rumour on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 17, 2019, 15:07:04 pm
What has the points tally since December got to do with anything? You're choosing this period arbitrarily.

I replied to your post where you said that those who thought the team were capable of promotion earlier in the season had gone quiet, pointing out these stats:

Under Austin: 10 games = 7 points. 28 games of this form would have seen us firmly in bottom spot.
Under Curle: 18 games = 26 points. 28 games of this form would have seen us sitting from 8th-9th.

We have only lost 3 league games from 18 under Curle and are still unbeaten at home in that time.

The teams form so far under Curle would make them contenders for the play-offs, if it wasn't for the disastrous run during Austins regime. I maintain this form is more reflective of the squads ability, and expect this form to at least be carried on for the rest of the season, but possibly even improve.

Very few of the teams in the top 10 look to possess any more quality than us, bar MK and perhaps Lincoln and Mansfield.

As I said in my earlier post it's likely they won't make the play-offs as it stands, but I fancy them to finish on 60+ points and not be far off them at the end. If Curle had been appointed in the summer with the squad we had and still have, I'm convinced we would have been in the top 7 this year.

I agree that VV and Crooks were our most talented players but paradoxically I don't think we'll miss them much at all. Conversely Morias has only returned in recent weeks and still feels like a new signing, so the VV gap already feels 'filled'. Crooks was too inconsistent and in and out of the XI anyway. We have also strengthened the left back slot and it sounds like there are more signings to come. We could well be stronger in the final 18 than in the last 18 games.

And knows what could happen, we might win 8 of the next 10! Much stranger things have happened in football. Heaven forbid someone should be optimistic though, eh?
Our form since December is relevant because it is the most recent form .
We also played some bang average sides in this period and didnít beat them .
Hopefully we can improve but I base my assumptions on what I see before me as opposed to hypothesis to suit my argument


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2019, 15:14:39 pm

.............................. on what I see before me as opposed to hypothesis to suit my argument

Get out of that one CUF ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 17, 2019, 16:07:57 pm
Our form since December is relevant because it is the most recent form .
We also played some bang average sides in this period and didnít beat them .
Hopefully we can improve but I base my assumptions on what I see before me as opposed to hypothesis to suit my argument

Drivel. You talk about 'what you see' as if by this you are dealing in facts, rather than subjective opinions. You yourself have a hypothesis (we aren't good enough), based on subjectivity (your appraisal of the teams performances), which suits your argument, which you have held since the season start (we aren't good enough). Why form your opinion about the quality of our squad on our December games only as opposed to the 18 under Curle, especially when there are also 18 games remaining? 18 matches is a wider sample size and therefore more representative of overall form. To say it is 'because it is the most recent set of games' is flimsy to say the least. You may as well base your opinion on one game and say we can challenge for automatic judging by the manner in which we dismantled the play-off positioned Carlisle.

Our form in December was drawn from 5 games in which we were unbeaten and garnered 7 points. Bury's overall form in December can be drawn from 5 games, in which they also garnered 7 points. So does that mean they are not play-off contenders, going by you indisputable logic? Oh, but they sit in second place! How can this be!

Because their position is a reflection of their form over the season, duh!

Our form has good reason to be cleanly split between the Austin and Curle regimes. Under Austin our form had us on course to finish bottom. Under Curle our form is good enough (extrapolated for a whole season) to be just outside the play-off spots. I maintain this form is a better example of the squads ability than that shown under Austin.

On transfers, I'm looking forward to how Curle will strengthen the squad before the end of the month.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 17, 2019, 16:09:08 pm
Get out of that one CUF ;D

Get out of what?  ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest170 on January 17, 2019, 16:26:21 pm
As a slight side note, does anyone follow John Harriott @JHFootballAgent on twitter?
The guy is hilarious / delusional. Constantly tweets crap and has been called out a few times, including this week by Robert Huth. Has stock photos and claims it was when he and his wife Janice modelled. If it was a parody account it would be close to being funny but the guy is deadly serious. Well worth a look when your getting frustrated with the real football window


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2019, 16:36:07 pm
Get out of what?  ::)

You had a go above but its more argumentative than a debate


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 17, 2019, 17:06:47 pm
You had a go above but its more argumentative than a debate

How so, and ultimately is there really a difference? I've clearly explained why I don't agree with B&S's opinions. The first time I stated these arguments he ignored them, I suggest rather conveniently.

I also don't know why you thought I would struggle to 'get out of' his 'hypothesis'. It didn't require a great deal of thought to point out its fallacies.





Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2019, 17:14:28 pm
How so, and ultimately is there really a difference? I've clearly explained why I don't agree with B&S's opinions. The first time I stated these arguments he ignored them, I suggest rather conveniently.

I also don't know why you thought I would struggle to 'get out of' his 'hypothesis'. It didn't require a great deal of thought to point out its fallacies.


Well starting with 'drivel' is a bit harsh.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 17, 2019, 17:38:57 pm
" There may be trouble ahead"  :-X


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 17, 2019, 17:53:14 pm
" There may be trouble ahead"  :-X
WELL BLOW ME DOWN



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 17, 2019, 17:59:22 pm
" There may be trouble ahead"  :-X

Nile Ranger by any chance?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 17, 2019, 18:02:19 pm
It would only be his 6th or 7th last chance - what could possibly go wrong?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 17, 2019, 18:06:43 pm
Well starting with 'drivel' is a bit harsh.

It was my hypothesis, which I then backed up with a reasoned argument. ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 17, 2019, 18:28:28 pm
Nile Ranger by any chance?


You know what, wouldn't mind seeing this - even if not sure it's a good idea. Let's have some antics and spice up this season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 17, 2019, 18:55:19 pm
Rumours on Twitter, weíre back in for Karl Halfalagerson


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 17, 2019, 18:57:16 pm
Danny Rose, mentioned earlier in this thread has joined Swindon until the end of the season after mutually cancelling his contract at Pompey.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 17, 2019, 19:11:33 pm

You know what, wouldn't mind seeing this - even if not sure it's a good idea. Let's have some antics and spice up this season.

Bloody hell, I would. Getting into the odd scrape with the law could just be unfortunate. Getting into a few raises questions. Getting into as many as he has tells you he's just a **** scumbag and not someone you want associated with a family oriented football club.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 17, 2019, 20:01:53 pm
Rumours on Twitter, weíre back in for Karl Halfalagerson

I even googled him 🙈🙈🙈🙈


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 17, 2019, 20:17:54 pm
I even googled him 🙈🙈🙈🙈

I prefer his mate Wanna Pintoflager  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TownOwl on January 17, 2019, 20:24:09 pm
ilav Afulwondad


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 17, 2019, 20:37:46 pm
ilav Afulwondad
Good prospect


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 17, 2019, 20:43:59 pm
Danny Rose, mentioned earlier in this thread has joined Swindon until the end of the season after mutually cancelling his contract at Pompey.

Also of those others rumoured or linked with us. Carlisle's Richie Bennett and Jermaine Anderson from the swap dwellers have both gone out on loan.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 17, 2019, 22:01:28 pm
I prefer his mate Wanna Pintoflager  ;)
I prefer his distant cousin Mustapha Speckledhen.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 17, 2019, 22:14:45 pm
I hear the ladies team are in for Anita Bush


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: In and out on January 18, 2019, 07:56:10 am
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/just_sport_vacancy_170119/
Maybe they should offer hidden zero hours contracts to players too, like what the club shop is.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2019, 11:01:35 am
..... the dullest transfer window ever in the dullest season ever .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 18, 2019, 11:06:39 am
We have or had a bid in for a player....
Iíd assume thatís been rejected.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2019, 12:04:10 pm
We have or had a bid in for a player....
Iíd assume thatís been rejected.
If we lose Pierre or Turnbull , there will be some unhappy punters around .
If itís Taylor or less likely JJOT - fair enough .
The only other one could potentially be MacWilliams because there was interest in the summer .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ectonteynfan on January 18, 2019, 12:57:38 pm
Think he's on about the bid we put in for a player not a bid for one of ours


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 18, 2019, 12:59:22 pm
If we lose Pierre or Turnbull , there will be some unhappy punters around .
If itís Taylor or less likely JJOT - fair enough .
The only other one could potentially be MacWilliams because there was interest in the summer .
You misunderstood me.

We have a bid in for a player....
It was put in last week
I assume itís a no go.

I have no idea if anyone has bid for any of our players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 18, 2019, 14:46:15 pm
We've obviously gotta tighten the belt to comply with FFP.

No real issue with anyone leaving as this squad has been crap for a while.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 18, 2019, 21:44:31 pm
I hear the ladies team are in for Anita Bush
Your real names not Rudolph Ukker is it Clarity?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 18, 2019, 23:04:58 pm
Your real names not Rudolph Ukker is it Clarity?
58 today, is that old?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 19, 2019, 00:28:02 am
58 today, is that old?
Marvellous, congrats Clarity and no, not compared to me and Evers. My real name is Hugh Janus by the way. Enough of this or Ill get shouted at again by the mods.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 19, 2019, 08:56:11 am
On signings i would just go with what we have.

Hard to believe this squad isn't capable of a mid table finish now. After Saturday i thought there is enough there to get us by. I dont want to see KC bring in just anybody right now. we need to look forward to next season and maybe save some of the wages he may have to spend on a decent player or two.

I would like to see KC blood more youth as the season closes in. it can only be a positive as the ones that are in the side now have performed brilliant so far.

UTC


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 19, 2019, 10:32:09 am
On signings i would just go with what we have.

Hard to believe this squad isn't capable of a mid table finish now. After Saturday i thought there is enough there to get us by. I dont want to see KC bring in just anybody right now. we need to look forward to next season and maybe save some of the wages he may have to spend on a decent player or two.

I would like to see KC blood more youth as the season closes in. it can only be a positive as the ones that are in the side now have performed brilliant so far.

UTC
Might get your wish today!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest170 on January 19, 2019, 10:37:19 am
You misunderstood me.

We have a bid in for a player....
It was put in last week
I assume itís a no go.

I have no idea if anyone has bid for any of our players.
Can take the whole window sometimes to negotiate a deal. Have to agree terms with the club, then the player, if the team is still in the FA Cup they might want to wait until after that in case of injury. Could be a team we're playing during the window so move after that. Lots of reasons


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 19, 2019, 11:24:10 am
Your real names not Rudolph Ukker is it Clarity?

Fheasant Pucker


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 19, 2019, 17:39:49 pm
Foley, Bowditch, Taylor, O'Toole, McWilliams, Cox and possibly Morais all injured.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 17:40:29 pm
Foley, Bowditch, Taylor, O'Toole, McWilliams, Cox and possibly Morais all injured.

And potentially all leaving.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 17:46:17 pm
And potentially all leaving.

Come off it mate - whoíd touch bowditch with a barge pole?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 17:48:05 pm
Come off it mate - whoíd touch bowditch with a barge pole?

 ;D Good point!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2019, 17:51:28 pm
And potentially all leaving.

What Cox? He's only just joined on loan ffs.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 18:02:19 pm
What Cox? He's only just joined on loan ffs.

Maybe not Cox.

Although if his injury is a bad one then I guess he may go back!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2019, 18:17:50 pm
Maybe not Cox.

Although if his injury is a bad one then I guess he may go back!

Maybe not any. Nobody knows, it's all speculation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 18:19:49 pm
Maybe not any. Nobody knows, it's all speculation.

I admire your positive outlook.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 19, 2019, 20:42:00 pm
I tell you something if we don't make 3 or 4 additionscthen we are in serious trouble. 5 or 6 of as I expect another couple leave.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 19, 2019, 21:50:42 pm
And potentially all leaving.

Are you hearing what im hearing ?  :-\


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 19, 2019, 21:54:13 pm
Are you hearing what im hearing ?  :-\

What are you heading?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 19, 2019, 21:55:28 pm
Iím sure people deliberately thrive and post things on hear to make the situation worse.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 21:55:36 pm
Are you hearing what im hearing ?  :-\

If youíve heard something spit it out mate - we are currently in what could be one of the most crucial periods in the clubs history and the feeling of complete impotence is agonising.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 19, 2019, 21:56:33 pm
Thatís exactly it, they havenít.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 19, 2019, 21:59:01 pm
Most have been transfer listed im told .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 22:00:38 pm
Most have been transfer listed im told .

Then yes, I am hearing what you are hearing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 19, 2019, 22:01:03 pm
By whom exactly?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 19, 2019, 22:02:35 pm
Then yes, I am hearing what you are hearing.

By KC because he wants rid or because the club want/need to get rid? If this is the case then I wouldnít bet on KC being around for long either.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 19, 2019, 22:03:15 pm
By KC because he wants rid or because the club want/need to get rid? If this is the case then I wouldnít bet on KC being around for long either.

Not by KC, allegedly. Apparently. Etc etc.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 22:11:35 pm
Not by KC, allegedly. Apparently. Etc etc.

Best of luck in your interview with KT on Friday mate (if it isnít strategically cancelled beforehand), the off the pitch mess is one (very important) thing but when it starts to impact on the pitch and potentially our league status it is another kettle of fish and the supporters have a right to know the truth and organise protests if necessary.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:12:57 pm
Do you think weíve come near to the £25k a week savings we need to make yet?

Donít you think it would be strange that two high earners went early in the window if they hadnít been made available for transfer?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 19, 2019, 22:15:53 pm
Do you think weíve come near to the £25k a week savings we need to make yet?

Donít you think it would be strange that two high earners went early in the window if they hadnít been made available for transfer?

Not really know, they both wanted out once the final whistle blew at Walsall and the club have supposedly turned down numerous offers, especially for Crooks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:17:45 pm
Do you think weíve come near to the £25k a week savings we need to make yet?

Donít you think it would be strange that two high earners went early in the window if they hadnít been made available for transfer?

No because every single player in lg1 and lg2 is avalible for sale should their asking price be met.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:21:10 pm
Most have been transfer listed im told .

Definatly needs validating this news and if it is in anyway true action needs to be taken!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 22:23:38 pm
Playing the conspiracy theorist it might explain some of the limp performances recently although I shouldnít really provide them with an excuse for being sh*te. If they are all being offered around then firstly why havenít Pierre or Turnbull (our only real 2 remaining saleable assets) been snapped up for a pittance and secondly given KCís public falling out with the Carlisle board over pretty much the same thing how come he hasnít gone public or walked away?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2019, 22:26:57 pm
Definatly needs validating this news ssvif it is in anyway truly action needs to be taken!

What action? You've been saying all the players need to leave anyway following two seasons of underachieving. This is a way of helping it along providing players like McWilliams, Pierre, Morias, Bridge and possibly Turnbull are kept. No one will want most of them in any case.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:27:15 pm
Not really know, they both wanted out once the final whistle blew at Walsall and the club have supposedly turned down numerous offers, especially for Crooks.

Indeed they did....the first week of the window KVV went and in the second week Crooks went after Rotherham had spent a week negotiating the deal.

If they both wanted out after Walsall, why didn't they both go in the summer? Or was it that they both put on stellar performances in the first half of this season and suddenly found themselves in demand?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2019, 22:35:12 pm
Indeed they did....the first week of the window KVV went and in the second week Crooks went after Rotherham had spent a week negotiating the deal.

If they both wanted out after Walsall, why didn't they both go in the summer? Or was it that they both put on stlelar performances in the first half of this season and suddenly found themselves in demand?

Because rightly or wrongly KT thought keeping them may get us back up. Clearly that hasn't happened and they were no better in league 2 as they were in league 1. So, with no sign of us going up this season the time is right for cashing in and getting them off the wage bill.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:36:20 pm
What action? You've been saying all the players need to leave anyway following two seasons of underachieving. This is a way of helping it along providing players like McWilliams, Pierre, Morias, Bridge and possibly Turnbull are kept. No one will want most of them in any case.

I'm.not bothered about 99% of the players leaving, your right about the majority they are not good enough. But if its KT that has transfer listed them then it indicates that we are up **** creek financially.

Hopefully the trust would be in a full picture of what us going on and protests should begin if it is proven to be the case



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 19, 2019, 22:41:36 pm
Because rightly or wrongly KT thought keeping them may get us back up. Clearly that hasn't happened and they were no better in league 2 as they were in league 1. So, with no sign of us going up this season the time is right for cashing in and getting them off the wage bill.

Getting them off the wage bill for getting them off the wage bills sake? Or getting them off the wage bill (and getting transfer money) to invest in replacements?

It was pretty obvious to me what KT was going to do after he said that the wage bill needed addressing either this window or the next.

Yes, granted they did not perform consistently enough, granted they were on decent money for little return......but they are better than not having anybody at all.

Van Veen, Crooks and Waters had contributed almost half of the teams goals this season...and they haven't been replaced. There's still time though I guess........


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 22:44:10 pm
KT has a decision to make - continue with the asset stripping and get well and truly sucked into the relegation battle (although to be honest we probably already are) and possibly lose our league status which presumably will cost the club thousands or leave it now as is (unless he can somehow find someone gullible enough to take Powell, Hoskins, bowditch etc off our hands) and let KC bring in one or two reinforcements. When we get to the summer with our league status secured he can finish off the ďhousekeepingĒ and KC can build a new squad. By the way, again with the conspiracy theorist hat on are we confident that all of these injuries are legitimate (if you know what I mean)?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2019, 22:45:31 pm
We've scored 5 goals in 2 games though GPC. The thing that's killing us is these late goals, under DA and now under KC.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Humanpunk on January 19, 2019, 22:52:51 pm
KT has a decision to make - continue with the asset stripping

 :o :o

Since when did we have any assets to strip other than players KT and the board spent out on ?? We dropped a league and like any club that means cuts to match the new level of funding, only rich teams can afford to maintain the same salaries in a division down


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 19, 2019, 23:01:43 pm
Whole club is a total mess on & off the field...Sleepwalking into a needless relegation battle...

Only positive is the youth set up...

I too have heard pretty much the whole squad (bar the youngsters) have been made available for transfer with their names being circulated to all L1, L2 & National league clubs...not necessarily a KC decision but a Club decision.

If true, KC doesn't strike me as someone to keep quiet about this if asked, but the local press seem pretty scared to ask him any direct questions so I'm sure we'll all be kept in the dark as per usual.





Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 19, 2019, 23:04:17 pm
We've scored 5 goals in 2 games though GPC. The thing that's killing us is these late goals, under DA and now under KC.

Keep going TP; its hard work and can be demoralizing...for some!  I have come to conclusion it is best not to discuss a game with anybody who has known negative agenda. Whether they go and watch the game (or on iplayer) or not.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 19, 2019, 23:07:54 pm
We've scored 5 goals in 2 games though GPC. The thing that's killing us is these late goals, under DA and now under KC.
Soft underbelly and questionable mentality.

It takes a good manager to change that...you can coach all the skills and tactics you want, but their mentality is a different ballgame altogether.

Weíve lacked leaders for a while....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 19, 2019, 23:10:20 pm
:o :o

Since when did we have any assets to strip other than players KT and the board spent out on ?? We dropped a league and like any club that means cuts to match the new level of funding, only rich teams can afford to maintain the same salaries in a division down

I did make it clear in my previous post that the only real assets we have left are Pierre and Turnbull - can you imagine what it would be like if we lost either of them at this point? I agree entirely with Glasto that I couldnít give a sh*t about anyone else (possibly excepting bridge who looks promising and Sean McWilliams although he has regressed recently) but it is imperative that KC is backed to bring some reinforcements in (and Iím not talking unattached players who have been training with us or on trial).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 09:56:09 am
Whole club is a total mess on & off the field...Sleepwalking into a needless relegation battle...

Only positive is the youth set up...

I too have heard pretty much the whole squad (bar the youngsters) have been made available for transfer with their names being circulated to all L1, L2 & National league clubs..not necessarily a KC decision but a Club decision.

If true, KC doesn't strike me as someone to keep quiet about this if asked, but the local press seem pretty scared to ask him any direct questions so I'm sure we'll all be kept in the dark as per usual.

This is what I was referring to almost word for word, they had a trial game last week, a trial game ffs ! surely the players we should be looking at are currently employed, the only name we have been positively linked to is Nile Ranger, and no way on gods earth would I want him anyway near our club, although thankfully he didn't make the grade required im told. they throw out the weve made a bid for a player, same old story, remember Simon Cox ? We have gone all tin pot again just 3 years after one of  the best seasons we ever had . look how those players we didn't deem good enough ar doing , Collins, Marquis, even Rico is still scoring. We are a joke






Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 20, 2019, 09:59:31 am
I think Grove that it's our owners that are making us into a joke.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 10:01:51 am
I think Grove that it's our owners that are making us into a joke.

Absolutely mate , no question


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2019, 10:14:57 am
Time for coordinated action then surely?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 20, 2019, 10:17:41 am
Absolutly, enough is enough.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 20, 2019, 10:20:35 am
Keep going TP; its hard work and can be demoralizing...for some!  I have come to conclusion it is best not to discuss a game with anybody who has known negative agenda. Whether they go and watch the game (or on iplayer) or not.

I'd much rather read the kneejerk posts from passionate and frustrated supporters than a few silly little men who police the board to try and gain some faux sense of superiority.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 20, 2019, 10:42:42 am
I'd much rather read the kneejerk posts from passionate and frustrated supporters than a few silly little men who police the board to try and gain some faux sense of superiority.

You shouldn't be a silly little man then.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 11:13:17 am
You shouldn't be a silly little man then.

irony  ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 20, 2019, 11:16:31 am
Action already showing a united front


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 11:47:30 am
I'm in the KT out camp, finally.

There may of course be some grand scheme going on in the background that is going to take us forward but the distinct lack of communication and plans suggests not.

Time for change.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 20, 2019, 11:48:52 am
Because rightly or wrongly KT thought keeping them may get us back up. Clearly that hasn't happened and they were no better in league 2 as they were in league 1. So, with no sign of us going up this season the time is right for cashing in and getting them off the wage bill.

KT has his faults as I am sure most chairmen do, but one of the things that he doesn't do is sign / sell players above the head of the manager.

The lack of turnover in the playing staff last summer was down to:
1) DA's view that the squad was plenty strong enough to get us back up (numerous quotes in the press)
2) Nobody wanting to buy any of our players with serious offers


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 11:56:56 am
KT has his faults as I am sure most chairmen do, but one of the things that he doesn't do is sign / sell players above the head of the manager.

The lack of turnover in the playing staff last summer was down to:
1) DA's view that the squad was plenty strong enough to get us back up (numerous quotes in the press)
2) Nobody wanting to buy any of our players with serious offers
Really ? you know KTs thoughts how ? If Wycombe come in for pierre with say,75k offer, he will go , ive no doubt Curle would want to keep him but doubt hed have any say


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 20, 2019, 12:30:51 pm
Really ? you know KTs thoughts how ? If Wycombe come in for pierre with say,75k offer, he will go , ive no doubt Curle would want to keep him but doubt hed have any say


Read his post again. He's saying chairman should NOT sell players over the managers head. If indeed this is happening.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 20, 2019, 15:08:49 pm
We can NOT wait until the last 2 hours of the transfer window to sign two or three players to improve the team!

Personally I believe we require a physical centre forward and a playmaker in midfield to be signed THIS week..........no excuses!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 20, 2019, 15:14:40 pm
My, my what a bunch of pesimistic, negative, conspiracy theorists some of us are. So many points.of view with so little actual evidence to back it all up. Oh a yes I know this is a transfer rumour page but on looking at it my word its far from that. Please stick to the thread topic and if your gonna say something do so with evidence to back it up. So anyone got any actual transfer rumours????


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 20, 2019, 16:23:37 pm
My, my what a bunch of pesimistic, negative, conspiracy theorists some of us are. So many points.of view with so little actual evidence to back it all up. Oh a yes I know this is a transfer rumour page but on looking at it my word its far from that. Please stick to the thread topic and if your gonna say something do so with evidence to back it up. So anyone got any actual transfer rumours????

Yeah, Iím hearing Ntfc to the vanarama national has some legs


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 16:37:03 pm
My, my what a bunch of pesimistic, negative, conspiracy theorists some of us are. So many points.of view with so little actual evidence to back it all up. Oh a yes I know this is a transfer rumour page but on looking at it my word its far from that. Please stick to the thread topic and if your gonna say something do so with evidence to back it up. So anyone got any actual transfer rumours????

Yeah rumour has it 15 players have been transfer listed
You got any positive news to brighten us all up then ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 20, 2019, 16:43:26 pm
Yeah rumour has it 15 players have been transfer listed
You got any positive news to brighten us all up then ?

Out of interest, what players haven't been transfer listed? Genuine question.   


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 20, 2019, 17:00:18 pm
Out of interest, what players haven't been transfer listed? Genuine question.   

Just the newly signed youngsters by all accounts...

Salford interested in Andy Williams is the only outgoing rumour I've heard...

I guess any signings we bring in will be just be loans til the end of the season to try & secure our league status...

Desperate times...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 20, 2019, 17:01:13 pm
Out of interest, what players haven't been transfer listed? Genuine question.   

I don't know any names but id guess the cheapest ones , ie the youngsters


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 20, 2019, 17:09:39 pm
I don't know any names but id guess the cheapest ones , ie the youngsters

Shaun McWilliams?

The academy team may be our main team soon then.

Along with Goff, Iaciofano, Whaler, Roberts, J.Williams, C.McWilliams. Oh dear.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2019, 17:21:03 pm
A bit like April 1992 but with a slightly better quality of youth players - I wonder how long it will be until there are rumours of bills/players not getting paid. If only there was such a thing as a supporters trust.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 17:39:22 pm
A bit like April 1992 but with a slightly better quality of youth players - I wonder how long it will be until there are rumours of bills/players not getting paid. If only there was such a thing as a supporters trust.

Wasn't there someone at the Trust meeting that leaked that the club needed to save £100k a month?
If that is true why on earth hasn't there been communication from the Trust to the fans?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 20, 2019, 17:40:19 pm
Any group of fans could form there own trust
Itíd have about as much power and influence as the official trust
Ie) none

This is what happens when your trust gives up its place on the board.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2019, 17:49:52 pm
Wasn't there someone at the Trust meeting that leaked that the club needed to save £100k a month?
If that is true why on earth hasn't there been communication from the Trust to the fans?

I honestly donít know but I think itís fair to say that all communication (the club, trust, council, media) is practically nonexistent and when there is something released it is self serving and opaque. I know Iím living in fantasy land but what we need is complete honesty and transparency from all sides and at least then we would know where we are and can start pulling together - at the moment we are like the titanic drifting towards the iceberg.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 18:32:45 pm
I honestly donít know but I think itís fair to say that all communication (the club, trust, council, media) is practically nonexistent and when there is something released it is self serving and opaque. I know Iím living in fantasy land but what we need is complete honesty and transparency from all sides and at least then we would know where we are and can start pulling together - at the moment we are like the titanic drifting towards the iceberg.

Fully agree.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2019, 18:34:31 pm
My, my what a bunch of pesimistic, negative, conspiracy theorists some of us are. So many points.of view with so little actual evidence to back it all up. Oh a yes I know this is a transfer rumour page but on looking at it my word its far from that. Please stick to the thread topic and if your gonna say something do so with evidence to back it up. So anyone got any actual transfer rumours????

Add to that the hindsight experts.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2019, 18:47:07 pm
Surley the time for posative coordinated  action is drawing near. We all know what happen last time nobody did anything!

Is there any movement from the trust on this?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 19:05:46 pm
Add to that the hindsight experts.

How do you know they weren't all saying it at the time?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 20, 2019, 19:24:33 pm
There is a miasma of despair about the place.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2019, 19:25:34 pm
In the absence of any clarity or honesty from the club there is far too much smoke to ignore.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 20, 2019, 19:32:51 pm
In the absence of any clarity or honesty from the club there is far too much smoke to ignore.

This may only be the start......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 19:45:22 pm
IF, and it's a very very big IF, you believe some random bloke on Facebook....KC has called a press conference for 9am.

Most likely utter bollocks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 20, 2019, 19:56:15 pm
IF, and it's a very very big IF, you believe some random bloke on Facebook....KC has called a press conference for 9am.

Most likely utter bollocks.

Where did you see that if you donít mind me asking?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 20, 2019, 19:58:50 pm
IF, and it's a very very big IF, you believe some random bloke on Facebook....KC has called a press conference for 9am.

Most likely utter bollocks.
Have a look at the random blokes Facebook profile. It says everything. Especially the words, complete and utter bollocks.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 20, 2019, 20:02:15 pm
Have a look at the random blokes Facebook profile. It says everything. Especially the words, complete and utter bollocks.

I did see that.

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 20, 2019, 21:04:23 pm
Have a look at the random blokes Facebook profile. It says everything. Especially the words, complete and utter bollocks.

Agree on seeing said blokes profile picture. However one thing I would say is Curle has already left one job because of promises not being kept and not being able to bring in what he wanted. If KT is doing similar why would it be any different here?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 20, 2019, 23:33:36 pm
Another point of view is that perhaps we have used the last few transfer windows for the sake of it to bring in players that are no better than the ones we currently have. Bringing players who are a significant improvement on our current squad would make a refreshing change? Of course the problem with that is that it also aligns itself with the theory that the chairman is cashing in and the financial cupboard is bare. I donít know which is true, possibly a bit of both? What I do know is the last thing we need at the moment is another lazy @rse journey man through the doors who brings nothing but disappointment. Therefore the current position could be viewed as encouraging, if and only if it is for the right reasons?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 21, 2019, 08:19:20 am
Only way we know is on Feb 1st, I think.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 08:52:33 am
IF, and it's a very very big IF, you believe some random bloke on Facebook....KC has called a press conference for 9am.

Most likely utter bollocks.

Are the hoardes of press gathering in the Executive lounge yet?  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 21, 2019, 09:01:31 am
Another point of view is that perhaps we have used the last few transfer windows for the sake of it to bring in players that are no better than the ones we currently have. Bringing players who are a significant improvement on our current squad would make a refreshing change? Of course the problem with that is that it also aligns itself with the theory that the chairman is cashing in and the financial cupboard is bare. I donít know which is true, possibly a bit of both? What I do know is the last thing we need at the moment is another lazy @rse journey man through the doors who brings nothing but disappointment. Therefore the current position could be viewed as encouraging, if and only if it is for the right reasons?
What worries me is the fact you let two top players go without lining up replacements.
Now people can spin a line about we are probably after replacements but surely if you are losing your leading scorer and creative midfielder most clubs have a player tied down ready to come in before your own players are sold on.
We hadnít.
Rightly or wrongly given this situation you could come to the conclusion that we were desperate to unload them.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 09:18:48 am
When you have one regular established central midfielder (OíToole) out injured would you let the other established midfielder (Crooks) go out of choice?

If so, then youíd have to question the logic of the manager.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 21, 2019, 09:43:22 am
What worries me is the fact you let two top players go without lining up replacements.

bridge is crooks replacement

and was MOM last week


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 21, 2019, 10:31:08 am
bridge is crooks replacement

and was MOM last week

Did he play well against Cambridge?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 10:40:13 am
How do you know they weren't all saying it at the time?

 ;D  .... ???


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 21, 2019, 10:48:03 am
Did he play well against Cambridge?

Yes


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 10:49:10 am
bridge is crooks replacement

and was MOM last week



Shoemaker is a born worrier bordering on paranoia.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 21, 2019, 10:51:40 am
Did he play well against Cambridge?

Didn't from where I was standing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 11:00:06 am
Yes

Whilst it is good to see a positive comment from you; Bridges did ok'ish 1sr half but disappeared 2nd half like all the midfield.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 21, 2019, 11:06:27 am
Whilst it is good to see a positive comment from you; Bridges did ok'ish 1sr half but disappeared 2nd half like all the midfield.

He was directly involved in our two best chances of the second half - the goal and the chance that would have made it 3-1.

Agree that everyone disappeared after Morias was subbed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 21, 2019, 11:18:18 am
My first thought that came to mind when Morias was subbed off was that we were not going to win the game. He should have made it 3-1 but didn't connect well enough with the shot. Even so, he has an energy and will to win that some of his team mates would benefit from.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 21, 2019, 11:19:44 am
He was directly involved in our two best chances of the second half - the goal and the chance that would have made it 3-1.

Agree that everyone disappeared after Morias was subbed.

The Morais substitute was ridiculous, unless he was injured which is what a few people have suggested. No mention of that in any of the interviews etc.





Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 11:28:33 am

The Morais substitute was ridiculous, unless he was injured which is what a few people have suggested. No mention of that in any of the interviews etc.
.

I thought he was poor 1st half had a few good minutes in the second. Then disappeared!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 21, 2019, 11:34:35 am
.

I thought he was poor 1st half had a few good minutes in the second. Then disappeared!


He scored in the 48th minute, nearly scored again shortly afterwards...and then was subbed in the 59th minute. So he'd gone around 8 whole minutes without doing anything significant. Based on that, we'd be making 3 subs after 10 minutes in every game!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 12:10:36 pm
Taking quite a risk if you make your third and final substitution on the 59th minute for Ďtactical reasonsí, so no problems if it was for injury.
Considering we were 2-1 up at the time, if it was for tactical reasons then it backfired somewhat didnít it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 21, 2019, 12:17:32 pm
Taking quite a risk if you make your third and final substitution on the 59th minute for Ďtactical reasonsí, so no problems if it was for injury.
Considering we were 2-1 up at the time, if it was for tactical reasons then it backfired somewhat didnít it?
My thoughts exactly, plus we also had a few players on a yellow card, which makes it even more risky !


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 21, 2019, 12:21:35 pm
All those in the know
Any names of any signings


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 21, 2019, 12:28:41 pm
Taking quite a risk if you make your third and final substitution on the 59th minute for Ďtactical reasonsí, so no problems if it was for injury.
Considering we were 2-1 up at the time, if it was for tactical reasons then it backfired somewhat didnít it?

Thats exactly how I saw it at the time. Plus we are the only team that makes a sub away from home where we are winning, and the sub charges off of the pitch as quick as he can!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 12:39:13 pm
Thats exactly how I saw it at the time. Plus we are the only team that makes a sub away from home where we are winning, and the sub charges off of the pitch as quick as he can!

You want to calm down!

# slyone ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 21, 2019, 12:47:52 pm
Aaron Hayden


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 21, 2019, 13:22:19 pm
Bridge did well when he got the ball and looked dangerous .
The problem was that he had acres of space to hurt them and didnít do it often enough.
As for Morias - it was a blunder .
The crowd were backing him , he had just scored and missed one  , and then the manager thinks Powell might just have his one decent game in every 15 and do something .
Alas , there was no miracle and it was one of the other 14 .
It was in midfield we lost the game though .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 21, 2019, 13:54:13 pm
Aaron Hayden
;D just what we need.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 21, 2019, 14:05:48 pm
;D just what we need.

Best me to it 😂😂😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 21, 2019, 16:23:01 pm
4:30 announcement; chron and Radio Northampton tweeted this, but nothing from the club. Which suggests its either bad news (!) or something rather insignificant. Fingers crossed its some good news!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ntfclad on January 21, 2019, 16:23:48 pm
Told the other day a young lad is joining on loan from West Ham soon, and I see weíve got some player news coming up according to RN so this may be it


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 21, 2019, 16:32:39 pm
Joe Powell on loan from West Ham until the end of the season....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Parklands Cobbler on January 21, 2019, 16:34:38 pm
Lets hope he will have a bit more about him than the other Powell


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 16:42:27 pm
Lets hope he will have a bit more about him than the other Powell

I was impressed by Cambridge loanee(s) on Saturday!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 21, 2019, 16:46:50 pm
I was impressed by Cambridge loanee(s) on Saturday!
Knee jerk reaction to Saturday?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 17:09:59 pm
By all accounts (so far) a decent player.

We can all go on about the merits of signing youngsters on loan, and I think it says something about the situation we are in as a club.

But, if they come in and do the business thatís all that matters hey?

Welcome Joe!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 21, 2019, 17:16:47 pm
MY OPINION is Joe Powell is POTENTIALLY the type of creative, hungary and quality player we require to unlock defences!

I hope on Saturday (2pm!) Cobblers fans make that extra effort to get to the PTS and back the team in a game that could have a massive bearing on our season.

Welcome Joe.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 21, 2019, 19:19:15 pm
good luck to the lad I hope he smashes it for us. However, we need a bit of a Jason Taylor type , urgently, I can see a couple of names leaving and im worried we don't have the depth of experience, with MCWilliams injured again, I don't want to see a midfield of Pollock and Jay Williams again. We need to get away from the bottom, on Saturdays showing , we wont


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 21, 2019, 19:24:53 pm
Another young boy who has never played in the EFL , a damning inditement on the finances.
Hope he does well, really not sure L2 is where you blood these young lads.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 19:34:26 pm
Another young boy who has never played in the EFL , a damning inditement on the finances.
Hope he does well, really not sure L2 is where you blood these young lads.

Seemingly itís ok to throw other teams kids into our starting line up when they have no experience, but plenty say we shouldnít do it with our own.....

Bottom line is I guess you donít know until you try them...but that should be the same argument for our own youth players too......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 20:01:10 pm
good luck to the lad I hope he smashes it for us. However, we need a bit of a Jason Taylor type , urgently, I can see a couple of names leaving and im worried we don't have the depth of experience, with MCWilliams injured again, I don't want to see a midfield of Pollock and Jay Williams again. We need to get away from the bottom, on Saturdays showing , we wont

Thought that JJOT might be back by coming Saturday?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 21, 2019, 20:03:53 pm
Thought that JJOT might be back by coming Saturday?

Hes having injections, not a good idea playing under those conditions imo


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 20:14:42 pm
Seemingly itís ok to throw other teams kids into our starting line up when they have no experience, but plenty say we shouldnít do it with our own.....

Bottom line is I guess you donít know until you try them...but that should be the same argument for our own youth players too......

I am not sure if it works like that. The guy coming in is 20yrs so whilst young should be near his physical peak unlike a teenager. Was impressed by Cox on Sat both by his play and attitude. If for instance the young lads have the physique and skills by all means play them. If Saturday is anything to go by I would be relunctant to play them just yet.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 21, 2019, 21:43:07 pm
I am not sure if it works like that. The guy coming in is 20yrs so whilst young should be near his physical peak unlike a teenager. Was impressed by Cox on Sat both by his play and attitude. If for instance the young lads have the physique and skills by all means play them. If Saturday is anything to go by I would be relunctant to play them just yet.

A 20yr old footballer isn't anywhere near his physical peak.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2019, 21:55:06 pm
A 20yr old footballer isn't anywhere near his physical peak.
I get Evers point, but itís also difficult to judge someone on 45 minutes in one game...unless itís Chris OíDonnell weíre talking about! 😉

Itís about striking a balance, yes granted Powell May have a bit more about him than Pollock, but Pollock is ours and part of his development should be exposure to the first team.
Bringing in a young player from another club helps us out short term, but doesnít do much for our kids long term does it?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2019, 23:03:37 pm
A 20yr old footballer isn't anywhere near his physical peak.

He is certainly near it - that's why the army likes to recruit 19/20yr olds. So what is your yard stick for footballers age?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 21, 2019, 23:11:16 pm
That's probably because more 19 year olds are stupid enough to join the army.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 22, 2019, 00:14:21 am
He is certainly near it - that's why the army likes to recruit 19/20yr olds. So what is your yard stick for footballers age?

a. No. He really isn't.
b. Still young enough to be brainwashed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 22, 2019, 09:47:41 am
Blimey, it's impossible to please...

If the requirement is we sign a player who is at their peak, say 26 or 27, then presumably they're as good as they're going to be. And at our level that's not very good. A "good" to "very good" 26 / 27 year old, at their peak, will be plying their trade at a higher level than us.

We're not going to  sign "good" ready made players who are at their peak unless we are very, very lucky.

L2 is journeymen, ageing good players on their way down, young lads on their way up or just bang average players.

List all our squad out and they'll fit into one of those categories.... (maybe throw in total, utter, $hite as an extra category....)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 22, 2019, 10:44:04 am
a. No. He really isn't.
b. Still young enough to be brainwashed.

Tend to disagree with you as you do not allow for any lateral thinking.What on earth are you about ref 'brainwashing'?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 22, 2019, 11:20:55 am
Tend to disagree with you as you do not allow for any lateral thinking.What on earth are you about ref 'brainwashing'?


Military/Army training is a form of brainwashing, not of the traditional perception that you are probably thinking, but a more subtler version. (Breaking down before building back up)
I would say that the optimum age physically for a fair percentage of males is probably anywhere between 20-25+ years of age however the optimum years as a footballer could be more 26-29 years.
Beyond then, it is a different kind of physical fitness, more at a level of consistency as opposed to the explosive type of earlier years. 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 22, 2019, 13:38:02 pm
The West Ham lad is very highly regarded,

Watching clips from West Hams Youth team he looks to have a wand of a left foot. He appears to take their corners and free kicks and is involved in a lot of goals both from Left mid and Left back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKcjuneOAWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKbjXeNX-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k_JfNdqc3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zVutxh2GII


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 22, 2019, 17:24:13 pm
Still no confirmation of senior players being transfer listed. KC seems quite relaxed in his interview, he did say that players are playing for their futures between now and the end of the season. I suppose that goes without saying really.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 22, 2019, 20:19:40 pm
Not wanting to state the obvious but I think we will see far more in the retained this than this window. I don't know how many of the current full time sqaud are out of contract come June 2019 but Id be suprised if many stayed. IMO 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 23, 2019, 02:10:59 am
The West Ham lad is very highly regarded,

Watching clips from West Hams Youth team he looks to have a wand of a left foot. He appears to take their corners and free kicks and is involved in a lot of goals both from Left mid and Left back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKcjuneOAWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKbjXeNX-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k_JfNdqc3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zVutxh2GII

Exactly!  Good post.

He has huge potential, and will be great for us - as well us giving him that valuable experience of playing against thugs.

(You know that you are now tainted by having me agree with you post..... expect the wrath of the Hotel End to descend upon you).

By the way.... expect Pollock to be subject to a speculative bid from a Championship/Prem Club before the Window closes..... Possibly West Ham.  He has too much potential to be here beyond the Summer, even if we are promoted.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 25, 2019, 10:39:36 am
Into the final week of the window. We've sold arguably our two best players and brought in two youngsters with zero football league pedigree. There must be more signings to come, unless KC's hands are tied with incoming movements?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: WasRambo on January 25, 2019, 10:56:10 am
His YouTube interview suggests he has his eye on at least one target.

No need to panic


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 25, 2019, 11:41:02 am
Into the final week of the window. We've sold arguably our two best players and brought in two youngsters with zero football league pedigree. There must be more signings to come, unless KC's hands are tied with incoming movements?
KC has hinted and more movement both ways. I don't think his hands are tied I think the summer is she  things will really happen once OOC players have gone.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 25, 2019, 11:52:51 am
KC has hinted and more movement both ways. I don't think his hands are tied I think the summer is she  things will really happen once OOC players have gone.
Itíll be hard to bring in the quality required if we slip out of the football league.
We could improve our chances of league football next year by bringing in a couple of quality signings during this window but alas we have sold any valuable assets and seem to be going along the DC route of untried youngsters and free transfers.
Weíve recouped substantial income from the sales but how much will be spent in the way of transfer fees to bring in the quality we now lack??

This transfer policy and window seems very similar to the ones under the last chairman......

That didnít end very well for the club!!

Letís hope KT is going down a different route and some quality players will be wearing claret and white before the window closes....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 25, 2019, 13:39:52 pm
untried youngsters and free transfers.

To be fair Cox seems like a quality addition.

There is the negative of selling the biggest two assets but at the same time its the manager having a pair of balls and removing trouble makers from the squad. Not saying they were intentionally disruptive but even a lack of application can spread throughout a team.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 25, 2019, 13:50:44 pm
Itíll be hard to bring in the quality required if we slip out of the football league.
We could improve our chances of league football next year by bringing in a couple of quality signings during this window but alas we have sold any valuable assets and seem to be going along the DC route of untried youngsters and free transfers.
Weíve recouped substantial income from the sales but how much will be spent in the way of transfer fees to bring in the quality we now lack??

This transfer policy and window seems very similar to the ones under the last chairman......

That didnít end very well for the club!!

Letís hope KT is going down a different route and some quality players will be wearing claret and white before the window closes....

The quality and expiriance of player is there and avalible if you want to bring it in. Look at NO bribing David Wheeler, that's the sort of player we should be aiming for. Good age at 28, lots of lg2 expiriance and in a position we are crying out for.

The players are there, but is the will there to pay wages?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 25, 2019, 13:57:48 pm
Id be utterly amazed if we sign anyone, who is going to cost us more than a few hundred quid a week max.

A case of trying to get the wage bill down, possibly to make the club easier to sell or cost less to run in the future.

Id speculate that a defeat tomorrow might change that though. We'd be in a proper scrap if that happens. If we win, we will be fairly comfortable again!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 25, 2019, 14:07:55 pm
The quality and expiriance of player is there and avalible if you want to bring it in. Look at NO bribing David Wheeler, that's the sort of player we should be aiming for. Good age at 28, lots of lg2 expiriance and in a position we are crying out for.

The players are there, but is the will there to pay wages?

No, we can't compete with anyone half decent in L2, hence the fire sale with more outgoings more probable than any incomings...

Wheeler is a quality player who has gone to MK...why would he have wanted to come to us in our current state anyway?

It's imperative we stay up so that a more manageable budget can be spent wisely by KC in the Summer...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 25, 2019, 15:53:35 pm
New signing announcement at 4:30


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 25, 2019, 15:56:40 pm
Id be utterly amazed if we sign anyone, who is going to cost us more than a few hundred quid a week max.

Prepare to be amazed!!! .... (possibly)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 25, 2019, 16:33:14 pm
Timi Elsnik on loan from Derby,

did this to us not long ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbDsqWLSHt4


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 25, 2019, 16:38:48 pm
Seems to be relatively highly rated by the Mansfield fans.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 25, 2019, 16:40:43 pm
Seems to be relatively highly rated by the Mansfield fans.

And the Swindon fans...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 25, 2019, 16:42:27 pm
Have we ever had a Slovenian play for us before?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 25, 2019, 16:45:12 pm
Have we ever had a Slovenian play for us before?

What nationality were those lads that Gary Johnson signed? Marin Pozgain or something or other.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 25, 2019, 16:51:05 pm
Have we ever had a Slovenian play for us before?
Will we be able to keep him after 29th March ?  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 25, 2019, 16:56:40 pm
What nationality were those lads that Gary Johnson signed? Marin Pozgain or something or other.
Pozzy was Austrian


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Baby Bear on January 25, 2019, 17:29:17 pm
Have we ever had a Slovenian play for us before?
Wasn't that striker we had from Derby, who scored at Orient, and then ended up playing in the europa league for someone Slovenian or maybe slovakian?
Always get them two countries muddled up.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 25, 2019, 17:42:51 pm
Looks a good signing to me .
At least he has plenty of first team experience .
We are obviously treading water until the end of the season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Zen Master on January 25, 2019, 17:46:17 pm
Wasn't that striker we had from Derby, who scored at Orient, and then ended up playing in the europa league for someone Slovenian or maybe slovakian?
Always get them two countries muddled up.

The Serbian Prijovic is who your thinking of.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 25, 2019, 18:05:59 pm
Looks a good signing to me .
At least he has plenty of first team experience .
We are obviously treading water until the end of the season.

Do you ever finish a post without a 'the end is nigh' type comment?

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 25, 2019, 18:25:24 pm
Is he another left sided player - that would mean 3 loans in that position?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Coolcat on January 25, 2019, 18:28:27 pm
Is he another left sided player - that would mean 3 loans in that position?
He was deffo playing down the left when he scored against us at Field Mill...of course, that was Cornell's fault!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 25, 2019, 18:48:15 pm
No, we can't compete with anyone half decent in L2, hence the fire sale with more outgoings more probable than any incomings...

Wheeler is a quality player who has gone to MK...why would he have wanted to come to us in our current state anyway?

It's imperative we stay up so that a more manageable budget can be spent wisely by KC in the Summer...

I was commenting on those who were saying the quality is not there this time of year. It is if your willing to pay for it


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 25, 2019, 18:55:57 pm
I was commenting on those who were saying the quality is not there this time of year. It is if your willing to pay for it

Agree. Jan is always a sellers market with clubs paying over the odds.....

To be fair, this is a very decent loan signing for us imo...

Played plenty of L2 games already & highly rated by both Swindon & Mansfield fans...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 25, 2019, 19:04:49 pm
Is he another left sided player - that would mean 3 loans in that position?

Central midfielder according to wiki. Attacking midfielder according to his Derby profile and his interview when explaining his best position. Powell said he could play in the same position but also on either wing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 25, 2019, 20:55:47 pm
I also see Alex Jones whom we were once chasing has joined Caulderwood at Cambridge on loan


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 25, 2019, 20:58:59 pm
He was deffo playing down the left when he scored against us at Field Mill...of course, that was Cornell's fault!  ;D

He appears to be well thought of at Stags. By the way I thought he was quick.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 25, 2019, 21:46:07 pm
Do you ever finish a post without a 'the end is nigh' type comment?

 ;D
Ha - I think the signings are all positive but what I meant by my comment was that they are short term fixes and not a build for next season.
I understand why - because itís better to sign players permanently in the summer when contracts are up .
Fair enough.
At least itís something to look forward to for tomorrowís game.
Still no keeper though Clarence ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 26, 2019, 07:06:06 am
This lad sounds like he's got some pedigree at this level, and in my mind is a bit of a 'coup' given we are playing roulette on the 50p table.

Good work by Kieth by the sounds of it. Im optimistic that he wont be too far off of Crookes ability level, and maybe he could be a tad more consistent. Both signings this week should hopefully make us more creative, be stronger off of the bench and help win us enough games to see us through what has been a very frustrating campaign.

Im not bothered about whether we are bringing in loans or permanent players; if its any of the latter they need to be short term fixes (contract until the end of the season) or a signing that will give us some hope moving forward. Unlikely to happen this month (latter), but I live in hope!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Monkey on January 26, 2019, 09:20:18 am
Seem to be well covered now for Attacking midfielders, esp with the emergence of Bridge in the last few weeks... but the balance of the team is still not right (hasn't been since Wilder). Hopefully it will get resolved properly in the summer.

For the short term we need someone with a bit more grit, muscle and fight in midfield (ala Jason Taylor) as well as up front.
A CB would be good too but don't think we'll see that unless we can shift someone out (Taylor/Facey).

GK isn't a priority this window as Cornell is good enough at this level and if he got injured we would still be able to bring in an emergency loan.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 26, 2019, 12:14:34 pm
Seem to be well covered now for Attacking midfielders, esp with the emergence of Bridge in the last few weeks... but the balance of the team is still not right (hasn't been since Wilder). Hopefully it will get resolved properly in the summer.

For the short term we need someone with a bit more grit, muscle and fight in midfield (ala Jason Taylor) as well as up front.
A CB would be good too but don't think we'll see that unless we can shift someone out (Taylor/Facey).

GK isn't a priority this window as Cornell is good enough at this level and if he got injured we would still be able to bring in an emergency loan.

Would keep Taylor - was good and will come good!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 26, 2019, 12:30:31 pm
With the play-offs seemings out of reach, Curle's remit consists of three key dimensions IMO:

1. Reach the 50+ point total which is normally sufficient to stay in the division
2. Start shaping the squad for next season
3. Continue to develop Williams, Pollock and McWilliams X2 and other promising youngsters


Given these priorities, I think this policy of signing loanees with potential makes a lot of sense.

There's no point in making eye-catching Van Veen type expensive signings unless they have the character and ability to genuinely improve us in the long term.

As others have said, what we need long term is a more balanced squad. For instance, Powell aside, we haven't had anything resembling a winger since Ariyibi and I'd say you need that option in the squad even just to provide a variation on 3-5-2.

If we're going to play 3-5-2 in the long-term - and Curle's history says we probably will - he will need particularly to start developing Facey into a proper right-wing back (or if this can't be done start scouting around for a summer alternative). I think Cox will be a good short term option as left wing back, and hopefully some of these loanees have been signed with a view to permanent deals. He also needs to get the balance in the midfield right and see if he can get the best out of John Joe when he returns.

Williams and Morais are decent but we probably need another striker long-term. Again though, I'd rather the club took their time on this rather than paying over the odds for the wrong character.   


 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 26, 2019, 21:41:55 pm
one or two mentions of Jabo Ibehre around the ground today.

Any truth?

Might do a job till the end of the season?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 26, 2019, 21:51:35 pm
one or two mentions of Jabo Ibehre around the ground today.

Any truth?

Might do a job till the end of the season?
Not sure what he offers that A Williams doesnít, doesnít seem a worthwhile signing.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 26, 2019, 21:54:01 pm
Would keep Taylor - was good and will come good!
Would be my first name out of the door closely followed by Powell and Bowditch.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 26, 2019, 21:54:34 pm
one or two mentions of Jabo Ibehre around the ground today.

Any truth?

Might do a job till the end of the season?

I heard his name being mentioned too - thereís the Carlisle link I suppose but heís 35, makes you wonder what kind of profile of potential signings Simon treacey is looking at, either 20 year olds who havenít played a league game or 35 year old journeymen - we are allowed to look at players in their late 20ís as well!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 26, 2019, 23:18:41 pm
A Williams to Salford (strutted around today like he'd already signed for them!)
Ibere to us (one for the future!  ::)

This season can't end soon enough.....woeful!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 26, 2019, 23:42:04 pm
Ibere is 36 this week FFS


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Macc Cobbler on January 27, 2019, 00:09:25 am
A Williams to Salford (strutted around today like he'd already signed for them!)
Ibere to us (one for the future!  ::)

This season can't end soon enough.....woeful!

Heard the rumours re Andy Williams. Good luck to him if he goes. Top goal scorer,natural finisher and yet Hoskins gets picked ahead of him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 27, 2019, 02:25:20 am
A Williams to Salford (strutted around today like he'd already signed for them!)
If this really has legs, then what hell is going on, it's like we are selling our strikers with no decent prospects coming in. With so many changes both with the sqaud and managers there's no wonder the unity and harmony of the team has gone... well the last few days of this window look interesting!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 27, 2019, 07:45:13 am
A Williams to Salford (strutted around today like he'd already signed for them!)
Ibere to us (one for the future!  ::)

This season can't end soon enough.....woeful!
Evcitimg times ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 27, 2019, 10:03:44 am
Also heard the Pierre rumour again yesterday, I can't believe no ones come in for Turnbull yet, our best player by miles.
Can you imagine if we lost Pierre, Tunbull and A Williams, replaced by 20 year old loans.......


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 27, 2019, 12:22:42 pm
Also heard the Pierre rumour again yesterday, I can't believe no ones come in for Turnbull yet, our best player by miles.
Can you imagine if we lost Pierre, Tunbull and A Williams, replaced by 20 year old loans.......

Unfortunately...yes, I can imagine that!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2019, 12:25:10 pm
Yep I also can. If we don't add some experience this week, Squeaky bum time will have truly commenced.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 27, 2019, 16:27:54 pm
Jabo Ibehre didn't feature for Cambridge yesterday, not even on the bench. That's after playing the whole game against us the previous week, no mention of any injury.

Also, one of our friends from Carlisle that frequent this forum did mention a while ago that KC is a big admirer of his and wouldn't be surprised if we attempted to sign him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 27, 2019, 16:35:06 pm
Jabo Ibehre didn't feature for Cambridge yesterday, not even on the bench. That's after playing the whole game against us the previous week, no mention of any injury.

Also, one of our friends from Carlisle that frequent this forum did mention a while ago that KC is a big admirer of his and wouldn't be surprised if we attempted to sign him.

If we do sign him it's got to be a short term contract until the end of the season - knowing us though we'll give him a 3 year deal.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 27, 2019, 16:45:46 pm
Another point on Ibehre... I saw plenty of Twitter rumours about Bayo Akinfenwa returning last week. He's older than Ibehre by 8 months, so playing devils advocate here, how would this be acceptable? But yes, I know who I'd prefer aswell.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 27, 2019, 16:57:03 pm
To be fair ibehre would probably do a job as a strong, hold up, link type of centre forward - Williams doesnít really do that and itís pretty obvious that KC either doesnít rate him or sees him as dispensable. Ibehre would probably bring the best out of Morias/Hoskins too.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 27, 2019, 17:57:41 pm
To be fair ibehre would probably do a job as a strong, hold up, link type of centre forward - Williams doesnít really do that and itís pretty obvious that KC either doesnít rate him or sees him as dispensable. Ibehre would probably bring the best out of Morias/Hoskins too.

The best out of Hoskins? Ooooh, can't wait for that! Its only taken 8 years to find someone who could bring the best out of him!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 27, 2019, 18:14:21 pm
We may as well wait for the return of O' Tool as a hold up target man rather than bringing in a granddad or two in my view.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 27, 2019, 18:23:49 pm
The best out of Hoskins? Ooooh, can't wait for that! Its only taken 8 years to find someone who could bring the best out of him!

Iím clutching at straws I must admit!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 27, 2019, 18:26:23 pm
Another point on Ibehre... I saw plenty of Twitter rumours about Bayo Akinfenwa returning last week. He's older than Ibehre by 8 months, so playing devils advocate here, how would this be acceptable? But yes, I know who I'd prefer aswell.

I've got no issues if its a short term fix till the end of the season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 27, 2019, 18:29:09 pm
I've got no issues ig its a short term fix till the end of tge season.

Agree with this - just to say that it looks like he didnít train last week before missing yesterdayís match so either he is injured (should fit in nicely here) or heís been in talks about a move.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: bungle on January 27, 2019, 18:30:29 pm
If Williams goes it would be a serious tipping point.

Crooks and KVV were both excessively expensive, both obviously wanted out and had the pedigree to find clubs further up the pyramid. No problem with either sale.

Williams is a very different kettle of fish. Only joined in the summer and has 7 goals in 24 games with three assists (the same as Sam Hoskins BTW).

He should be the fulcrum of our attack, not warming the bench and certainly not replaced by a 35 year old with an inferior record.




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 27, 2019, 18:47:50 pm
Why would Ibhere come here for a few months , he may aswell stay at Cambridge, UNLESS Curle is offering him 18 months


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 27, 2019, 18:48:11 pm
Agree with this - just to say that it looks like he didnít train last week before missing yesterdayís match so either he is injured (should fit in nicely here) or heís been in talks about a move.

Don't forget Cambridge signed Alex Jones from Bradford on Friday. Could mean they are looking to allow a striker to leave?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 27, 2019, 18:48:50 pm
We may as well wait for the return of O' Tool as a hold up target man rather than bringing in a granddad or two in my view.

That may not be this season


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 27, 2019, 18:55:34 pm
I've got no issues if its a short term fix till the end of the season.
He's playing regularly and still under contract at Cambridge until the summer, so I'd imagine we'd offer him two years. If this happens it'll just prove how bargain basement we are.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 27, 2019, 18:57:40 pm
He's playing regularly and still under contract at Cambridge until the summer, so I'd imagine we'd offer him two years. If this happens it'll just prove how bargain basement we are.

Loan??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 27, 2019, 19:12:18 pm
Loan??

And he's the best we can manage? :o ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 27, 2019, 19:18:50 pm
Donít get me wrong Jabo Ibehre isnít exactly at the top of my wish list either - however if itís a choice between him and a 19 year old who hasnít played a league game then I know who Iíd prefer. As others have said heís hardly going to come here unless he gets offered 18 months or more - perhaps heíll be a goal machine in the conference.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Monkey on January 27, 2019, 19:22:05 pm
Ibehre seems pretty nailed on. Would be happier with Bayo though... Not so much with an unheard of 19 year old from Barnsley.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 27, 2019, 19:25:41 pm
And he's the best we can manage? :o ;D

I don't know. We are lacking someone to hold the ball up, if he's good at that he could be useful and do a job this season and maybe next.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 27, 2019, 20:07:16 pm
Balancing the books



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 27, 2019, 20:20:11 pm
That may not be this season

I heard he was now just a week away from a return. We will see I suppose. Could do a job for us up front if needed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 27, 2019, 20:21:27 pm
Cambridge fans describe Ibehre as a striker who plays like he's running in peanut butter...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 27, 2019, 20:58:09 pm
If Williams goes it would be a serious tipping point.

Crooks and KVV were both excessively expensive, both obviously wanted out and had the pedigree to find clubs further up the pyramid. No problem with either sale.

Williams is a very different kettle of fish. Only joined in the summer and has 7 goals in 24 games with three assists (the same as Sam Hoskins BTW).

He should be the fulcrum of our attack, not warming the bench and certainly not replaced by a 35 year old with an inferior record.




The day Sam Hoskins scores 7 goals in 3 seasons let alone 24 games will never come!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 27, 2019, 20:59:05 pm
Why would Ibhere come here for a few months , he may aswell stay at Cambridge, UNLESS Curle is offering him 18 months

On loan!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: NTFC Nut on January 27, 2019, 21:13:49 pm
I say we sign this guy, just so we can see Dr Feelgood referring to him as the Meistermeister in match threads...make it happen, Keith.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Meister_(footballer)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 27, 2019, 21:20:51 pm
I say we sign this guy, just so we can see Dr Feelgood referring to him as the Meistermeister in match threads...make it happen, Keith.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Meister_(footballer)

I heard that Nicolas Meister to the Cobblers was a done deal! That should be good enough to get it all over social media  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 28, 2019, 08:45:45 am
I for one cannot wait until this window is over, and we see what we are left with to try and keep us up.

If Pierre/Turnbull/Williams go and we don't replace them with someone experienced (ie not a loan player who hasn't played league football) then I really fear for us.

We do need a big man up top, playing hoofball to Morias and Hoskins will never work. Junior can hold the ball up well if it is played into him but will never beat a big centre half in the air. Sammy has a pretty decent leap for a little fella, but the same applies.

Williams over Ibhere all day long for me, his work rate is far superior (having seen a younger Jabo playing for MK Dons) and he certainly will score more.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 28, 2019, 08:59:53 am
I for one cannot wait until this window is over, and we see what we are left with to try and keep us up.

If Pierre/Turnbull/Williams go and we don't replace them with someone experienced (ie not a loan player who hasn't played league football) then I really fear for us.

We do need a big man up top, playing hoofball to Morias and Hoskins will never work. Junior can hold the ball up well if it is played into him but will never beat a big centre half in the air. Sammy has a pretty decent leap for a little fella, but the same applies.

Williams over Ibhere all day long for me, his work rate is far superior (having seen a younger Jabo playing for MK Dons) and he certainly will score more.
Completely agree Williams is miles better than Jabo Ibhere.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: meccanostand on January 28, 2019, 09:31:04 am
Andy Williams is 32, no spring chicken but he has his attributes. Ibhere is 36 let's get a grip. We could sign Elton John and you'd have some people trying to make sense of it "he'll do a job".


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2019, 09:51:47 am
If we let Williams go for Ibhere , we might as well pack up now .
Williams was rubbish on Saturday but at least he knows where the net is


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 28, 2019, 10:03:25 am
If we let Williams go for Ibhere , we might as well pack up now .
Williams was rubbish on Saturday but at least he knows where the net is

Its a fix to the end of the season if it happens and if we are playing long ball football Ibhere is better suited to that than Williams.

I do think though is Williams does go, we might need someone else in as well to supplement Ibhere - Unless KC sees someone like Joey filling that void. Maybe he's building himself up to this when he was saying 'goal scorers will score goals no matter what level they play at' ????


Maybe someone likey Joey would work well playing off a bigger target man?

I guess all will be revealed very soon now



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2019, 11:29:27 am
Its a fix to the end of the season if it happens and if we are playing long ball football Ibhere is better suited to that than Williams.

I do think though is Williams does go, we might need someone else in as well to supplement Ibhere - Unless KC sees someone like Joey filling that void. Maybe he's building himself up to this when he was saying 'goal scorers will score goals no matter what level they play at' ????


Maybe someone likey Joey would work well playing off a bigger target man?

I guess all will be revealed very soon now


All of those options would be a disaster .
Williams cannot go unless a similar player is brought in with a goal scoring record .
Joe is not a solution .
Curle has already said he needs to step up a level . Thatís not to the first team though.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 12:15:58 pm
Based on the latest snippet from KC on the chron site it is blatantly obvious that he is preparing us up for Jabo ibehre (a ďfocal pointĒ for the attack). Make no mistake it is going to require a significant leap of faith for the fans to accept this, especially if it is effectively a one in one out with Williams. If ibehre is as immobile as Cambridgeís fans suggest then it is going to be a big ask.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 28, 2019, 12:38:10 pm
Based on the latest snippet from KC on the chron site it is blatantly obvious that he is preparing us up for Jabo ibehre (a ďfocal pointĒ for the attack). Make no mistake it is going to require a significant leap of faith for the fans to accept this, especially if it is effectively a one in one out with Williams. If ibehre is as immobile as Cambridgeís fans suggest then it is going to be a big ask.

Based on last weekends viewing I know which one id rather!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2019, 12:43:55 pm
Based on the latest snippet from KC on the chron site it is blatantly obvious that he is preparing us up for Jabo ibehre (a ďfocal pointĒ for the attack). Make no mistake it is going to require a significant leap of faith for the fans to accept this, especially if it is effectively a one in one out with Williams. If ibehre is as immobile as Cambridgeís fans suggest then it is going to be a big ask.
Iím beginning to seriously fear where this is all heading .
Asset stripping , talk of desperation signings , terrible football , massive injury list , plumetting like a stone and unable to beat very poor teams .....
The only really positive thing in recent months is the signing of Elsnik ( cox and Powell are untried )


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TownOwl on January 28, 2019, 13:13:10 pm
Iím beginning to seriously fear where this is all heading .
Asset stripping , talk of desperation signings , terrible football , massive injury list , plumetting like a stone and unable to beat very poor teams .....

Its not really heading anywhere yet as it hasn't actually happened. Williams, Pierre, Turnbull... all still here.

Sold 2 players a lot agreed with selling based on wages.
TALK only.
Football no worse thank was. I think it's marginally better, which says very little.
Every team gets injuries, it doesn't mean anything.
We're not plummeting like anything. We've been terrible all season and improved very slightly.
We've been unable to beat very poor teams for 2 years.

Cheer up and don't panic Mr Mainwaring (yet).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: pattcobb on January 28, 2019, 13:29:19 pm
plumetting like a stone

We are a point better off now seven points clear of the drop...
The rest is an all too familiar tale of woe all of which |I agree with, and to think 3 years ago we were ripping this division to shreads, the last three years have really seen mis-management of the highest order.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 28, 2019, 13:32:42 pm
Its not really heading anywhere yet as it hasn't actually happened. Williams, Pierre, Turnbull... all still here.

Sold 2 players a lot agreed with selling based on wages.
TALK only.
Football no worse thank was. I think it's marginally better, which says very little.
Every team gets injuries, it doesn't mean anything.
We're not plummeting like anything. We've been terrible all season and improved very slightly.
We've been unable to beat very poor teams for 2 years.

Cheer up and don't panic Mr Mainwaring (yet).


Also 16 points from safety - with 17 games left!

Not time to panic yet, but I agree if two of Turnbull, Pierre or Williams go and are not adequately replaced then is the time to start panicking!

New keeper still to come yet of course too  ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: exiledinspace on January 28, 2019, 13:35:40 pm
We could sign Elton John and you'd have some people trying to make sense of it "he'll do a job".

Half time entertainment might improve.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2019, 14:11:20 pm
Its not really heading anywhere yet as it hasn't actually happened. Williams, Pierre, Turnbull... all still here.

Sold 2 players a lot agreed with selling based on wages.
TALK only.
Football no worse thank was. I think it's marginally better, which says very little.
Every team gets injuries, it doesn't mean anything.
We're not plummeting like anything. We've been terrible all season and improved very slightly.
We've been unable to beat very poor teams for 2 years.

Cheer up and don't panic Mr Mainwaring (yet).
Whatever way you try and spin it , we are going backwards in every way possible .
Itís not at panic stations , but it is in constant decline . .... and there is not much room to decline much further .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: The Rauldinho on January 28, 2019, 14:16:21 pm
Also 16 points from safety - with 17 games left!

16 Draws will be enough then.  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 28, 2019, 14:25:57 pm
I see Marc Cullen has just signed for Carlisle.
If only we could compete with clubs of their size for signings!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 28, 2019, 14:39:55 pm
Half time entertainment might improve.
I can't see Elton being very good at "Shoot the skip" unless he ditches those platform boots  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 28, 2019, 15:30:57 pm
I see Marc Cullen has just signed for Carlisle.
If only we could compete with clubs of their size for signings!!!

Great signing for them. Pest of a striker...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 28, 2019, 15:37:45 pm
Great signing for them. Pest of a striker...
Is he replacing someone that's coming to us , Hallam Hope ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 15:42:48 pm
Is he replacing someone that's coming to us , Hallam Hope ?

Bob hope? No hope? I saw that apparently Cullen is at least 2 weeks away from fitness so thereís no way theyíd let their main man go with no instant replacement.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 28, 2019, 15:43:45 pm
Is he replacing someone that's coming to us , Hallam Hope ?

Don't think so as we've not got a pot to **** in!

Cullen still a couple of weeks from full fitness anyway...

As for Jabo signing for us hopefully it's bollox as he's injured anyway...

Jabo Ibehre missed Cambridge Unitedís clash with Exeter City due to a hamstring injury, Colin Calderwood confirmed.

The Uís striker was a surprise omission from the squad in Devon, with Ade Azeez starting alongside Rushian Hepburn-Murphy in his place.

ďHeís struggled all week really, if Iím honest,Ē Calderwood said.

ďEarlier in the week he tightened his hamstring and he hadnít trained since Tuesday so an adjustment was made.

ďIt wasnít a shock to us, we done our work, we were ready and we probably didnít do ourselves enough justice.Ē


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest170 on January 28, 2019, 15:48:39 pm
Don't think so as we've not got a pot to **** in!

Cullen still a couple of weeks from full fitness anyway...

As for Jabo signing for us hopefully it's bollox as he's injured anyway...

Jabo Ibehre missed Cambridge Unitedís clash with Exeter City due to a hamstring injury, Colin Calderwood confirmed.

The Uís striker was a surprise omission from the squad in Devon, with Ade Azeez starting alongside Rushian Hepburn-Murphy in his place.

ďHeís struggled all week really, if Iím honest,Ē Calderwood said.

ďEarlier in the week he tightened his hamstring and he hadnít trained since Tuesday so an adjustment was made.

ďIt wasnít a shock to us, we done our work, we were ready and we probably didnít do ourselves enough justice.Ē
I hope its b0llox but all the above is code for a deals being done and the negotiations started on Tuesday so they wont play him. Or it could be that he is injured!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 16:49:12 pm
Or weíre stupid enough to sign a 36 year old crock!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 28, 2019, 16:54:17 pm
Or weíre stupid enough to sign a 36 year old crock!

Three year deal with the option of another year........thats our style!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 28, 2019, 16:57:16 pm
Signing Ibhere would bring back not too fond memories of when we signed Clive Platt.....he was mid-thirties and on the downhill slope of his career........


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 17:01:35 pm
I'm sure there will be a fair bit of movement over the next few days.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 17:12:14 pm
I'm sure there will be a fair bit of movement over the next few days.

Sounds ominous given the fact that we are down to bare bones in terms of quality, the only players that other clubs would be remotely interested in are Pierre, Turnbull and some of the young prospects. How did the meeting go?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 17:17:10 pm
Sounds ominous given the fact that we are down to bare bones in terms of quality, the only players that other clubs would be remotely interested in are Pierre, Turnbull and some of the young prospects. How did the meeting go?

Meeting was good mate, very positive.

Movement can mean incoming too!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 17:48:34 pm
Meeting was good mate, very positive.

Movement can mean incoming too!

Sounds promising - you mean you actually got answers out of him?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 17:49:20 pm
Sounds promising - you mean you actually got answers out of him?!

I got what I wanted from it .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 17:59:11 pm
I got what I wanted from it .

Good on you mate.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 28, 2019, 18:04:17 pm
I got what I wanted from it .

Are you going to let us know any snippets or is for a later date?   


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 28, 2019, 18:12:40 pm
Movement might not be confined to players..... ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 28, 2019, 18:16:45 pm
Movement might not be confined to players..... ;)

Are notts county in for KT?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 28, 2019, 18:17:13 pm
Movement might not be confined to players..... ;)

Beds off to Luton?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 28, 2019, 18:36:25 pm
Meeting was good mate, very positive.

Movement can mean incoming too!

Needs to tell everyone the positives, because currently, we see none


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 19:14:55 pm
Needs to tell everyone the positives, because currently, we see none

None?

Go and have a chat with him mate...I know you're a pretty balanced guy (except when running!).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 28, 2019, 19:19:16 pm
GeneralCobb, did he restrict what he said to your ears only ??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 19:23:14 pm
GeneralCobb, did he restrict what he said to your ears only ??

The majority of it was off the record yep, otherwise I'd obviously front up and explain.

Which is why my suggestion to those with concerns is to contact him directly. His reasoning is very sound and he specifically cannot say certain things in the public domain through no fault of his own.

Btw don't take this as my view being that everything is perfect, far from it. I had some concerns and he more than satisfied them for me personally.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TownOwl on January 28, 2019, 19:44:50 pm
Well that's a relief. We'll all sleep soundly tonight now.

Night all. Zzzzzzz


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 19:45:43 pm
Well that's a relief. We'll all sleep soundly tonight now.

Night all. Zzzzzzz

 ;D



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 28, 2019, 20:44:31 pm
;D



So we can discount the Evans rumour.

Out of interest is he backing the Manager in the Transfer Window as we certainly need some decent players if only to steady the ship.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 28, 2019, 20:56:19 pm
So we can discount the Evans rumour.

Out of interest is he backing the Manager in the Transfer Window as we certainly need some decent players if only to steady the ship.
Go and ask KT as GeneralCobb has done.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on January 28, 2019, 21:13:59 pm
GeneralCobb you have been sucked in by KT's hot air


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 28, 2019, 21:35:49 pm
There was definitely no sucking involved.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wazzacobbler on January 28, 2019, 22:09:20 pm
There was definitely no sucking involved.

Not from KT anyway


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 29, 2019, 01:16:47 am
There was definitely no sucking involved.

Okay, let's try this another way. 'In your opinion' do you expect work to commence on the East stand before the summer, and do you anticipate anymore player movement during this window (either in or out)? Assuming the club is still up for sale, do you reckon we'll have new owners before the season ends?
This is a public message board, so feel free to give your opinion. ;)



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 29, 2019, 02:28:00 am
Okay, let's try this another way. 'In your opinion' do you expect work to commence on the East stand before the summer, and do you anticipate anymore player movement during this window (either in or out)? Assuming the club is still up for sale, do you reckon we'll have new owners before the season ends?
This is a public message board, so feel free to give your opinion. ;)



Personal opinion?

No.
Yes.
No.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 29, 2019, 05:56:08 am
What is our personal opinion Jolly?

My opinion; No (unfortunately)
                      Yes (definately)
                       No (unfortuately no extra outside investment)

Next!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 09:16:44 am
Chron quote: "Curle, who has plenty of funds at his disposal to strengthen the squad"


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 29, 2019, 09:37:24 am
Chron quote: "Curle, who has plenty of funds at his disposal to strengthen the squad"

But but but!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 29, 2019, 09:39:12 am
So, has Bower decided to get the cheque book out again? If itís true it makes you wonder why we held a trial game the other week.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 29, 2019, 09:42:52 am
Chron quote: "Curle, who has plenty of funds at his disposal to strengthen the squad"

Who are they quoting?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 09:49:42 am
Who are they quoting?

No one, I have quoted the Chron (Jeremy Casey).


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wazzacobbler on January 29, 2019, 09:55:25 am
I think of it this way. We have sold 2 of our highest earners in this transfer window, have released a player who was never playing but taking up a portion of the wage budget and allowed a loanee who would have also been paid by us (a % of his wages at least).

That free's up money to allow new players to come in. I wouldn't be surprised if the wages KvV was on could cover the cost of 2 players. It is a fact of football that when a club gets relegated, costs have to be brought down to fall in line with the loss of income that comes with playing in a division below.

Yes, the entirety of the wages free'd up by KvV and Crooks leaving may not be available to Curle for new players but a decent portion of it will be.

There is now way that players like Hoskins, Foley, Morias are earning anywhere near the amount that Crooks and KvV were. Rather than looking for star players who only perform in 1 game out of 5, Curle is probably looking for consistent players that do perform each week. They won't light up the world like Crooks did at Macclesfield or van Veen did ocassionaly but for the 4 games when those players didn't turn up, the new signings hopefully will.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 29, 2019, 10:16:54 am
People seem to think that Kasim no longer costs us anything. He was contracted to the end of the season so he either accepted a pay off(slightly less than he would have got had he seen out his contract), is still being paid by us or walked away thinking "NTFC need the money more than me". So it's unlikely we can bring in another player with what we have "saved" on Kasim
   


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 29, 2019, 10:22:38 am
So, has Bower decided to get the cheque book out again? If itís true it makes you wonder why we held a trial game the other week.

To try and see if there are any bargains available?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 29, 2019, 11:05:51 am
Danny Hylton anyone?????


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2019, 11:07:49 am
What is our personal opinion Jolly?

My opinion; No (unfortunately)
                      Yes (definately)
                       No (unfortuately no extra outside investment)

Next!

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2019, 11:17:56 am
Quote from: GrangeParkCobbler link=topic=18059.msg381282#msg381282 date=1548694 ???636
Signing Ibhere would bring back not too fond memories of when we signed Clive Platt.....he was mid-thirties and on the downhill slope of his career........

Ibhere is currently injured and missed CU's last game and the upcoming one too. Are you suggesting that KC signs an injured player? Hope not ::)




Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 29, 2019, 11:25:26 am
;D

Why the smiley? ??? ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 29, 2019, 11:27:18 am
What is our personal opinion Jolly?

My opinion; No (unfortunately)
                      Yes (definately)
                       No (unfortuately no extra outside investment)

Next!

I think it likely that everyone would assume the same: No
                                                                         Yes
                                                                          No


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 11:36:12 am
Danny Hylton anyone?????

I'd rip your hand off for Hylton!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 29, 2019, 11:58:00 am
Danny Hylton anyone?????
Pete O'Rourke on twitter reckons he's off to Oxford...He's not often wrong tbf.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 29, 2019, 12:14:57 pm
Danny Hylton anyone?????

Hmmmm.....Hylton or Ibhere, itís a tough one!  One of the Carlisle fans said on here a while ago that KC is a big fan of Hylton but thereís no way he would exchange a promotion push with Luton or a return to his former club Oxford for our situation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 29, 2019, 15:23:55 pm
Just seen that Curle almost had a permanent signing completed but they've chosen to go to Scotland.

Intimates it was an experienced midfielder, not a loan. Anyone got any clue who that would be..? Scouring the transfers in for Scotland but not sure yet. Closest was maybe Tony Andreu from Coventry to Hamilton but that was last week and would have been a massive coup for Northampton in this position.

Source article - https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-waiting-on-domino-effect-to-kick-in-as-he-reveals-signing-setback-1-8788908


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 29, 2019, 15:34:15 pm
Just seen that Curle almost had a permanent signing completed but they've chosen to go to Scotland.

Intimates it was an experienced midfielder, not a loan. Anyone got any clue who that would be..? Scouring the transfers in for Scotland but not sure yet. Closest was maybe Tony Andreu from Coventry to Hamilton but that was last week and would have been a massive coup for Northampton in this position.

Source article - https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-waiting-on-domino-effect-to-kick-in-as-he-reveals-signing-setback-1-8788908

Could have been Conor McAleny who left Fleetwood for Kilmarnock in a loan deal. He's a 26 year old striker.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: OCoole on January 29, 2019, 15:35:54 pm
Could have been Conor McAleny who left Fleetwood for Kilmarnock in a loan deal. He's a 26 year old striker.

Beat me too it, bet it was McAleny!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 29, 2019, 16:18:16 pm
When we are usually in this situation we tend to get a
ĎWe tried very hard but couldnít get the targets in that we wantedí spiel
Maybe if the club didnít show a massive lack of ambition by selling our quality players other signings may consider us as a viable option rather than looking decidedly tinpot....

I have a feeling both the club and Keithís future will be defined by this transfer window.
Basically if we fail to bring in the requisite quality and experience both KT and KC will have failed miserably.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 29, 2019, 16:21:47 pm
When we are usually in this situation we tend to get a
ĎWe tried very hard but couldnít get the targets in that we wantedí spiel
Maybe if the club didnít show a massive lack of ambition by selling our quality players other signings may consider us as a viable option rather than looking decidedly tinpot....

I have a feeling both the club and Keithís future will be defined by this transfer window.
Basically if we fail to bring in the requisite quality and experience both KT and KC will have failed miserably.
How would you finance KVV and Crooks wages?..................from your wallet?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 29, 2019, 16:24:06 pm


I have a feeling both the club and Keithís future will be defined by this transfer window.
Basically if we fail to bring in the requisite quality and experience both KT and KC will have failed miserably.

My feeling is that you are wrong.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 29, 2019, 16:28:30 pm
How would you finance KVV and Crooks wages?..................from your wallet?

He doesn't need to finance their wages; he didn't decide to buy a football club. ;)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 29, 2019, 17:10:26 pm
My feeling is that you are wrong.
Letís hope so and by the end of the transfer window we are all happy.
My point is that if we are trying to sign players of a certain quality...
Why would they sign for us??

Our reputation in the world of football agents must be that of a basket case....
£10m fiasco
Redevelopment not started let alone finished.
Seemingly selling our quality players
Up for sale
In a league two relegation scrap

Given this situation that IS happening is it hardly surprising we canít get targets???
I know who isnít to blame for the clubs current predicament and thatís me!!!

Letís as I say hope Iím proved wrong


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 29, 2019, 17:22:47 pm
Letís hope so and by the end of the transfer window we are all happy.
My point is that if we are trying to sign players of a certain quality...
Why would they sign for us??

Our reputation in the world of football agents must be that of a basket case....
£10m fiasco
Redevelopment not started let alone finished.
Seemingly selling our quality players
Up for sale
In a league two relegation scrap

Given this situation that IS happening is it hardly surprising we canít get targets???
I know who isnít to blame for the clubs current predicament and thatís me!!!

Letís as I say hope Iím proved wrong

Yes because football agents are always worried about reputation!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 29, 2019, 17:29:01 pm
Yes because football agents are always worried about reputation!
You make a fair point !!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2019, 17:34:50 pm
Not from KT anyway

 ;D  very topical!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 29, 2019, 18:44:35 pm
Letís hope so and by the end of the transfer window we are all happy.

this window is all about reducing the wage budget, if that makes you happy then fine but itís a given we will have a weaker squad at the end than the start.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teyn and proud on January 29, 2019, 19:16:20 pm
I think we must be the only team buying from Poundland  as opposed to Tescoís or am the only one thinking this ?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Grove on January 29, 2019, 19:50:28 pm
Ever been late to a buffet and all that's left are curly tuna sandwiches, sausages on sticks and wrinkly chicken legs


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2019, 20:27:01 pm
Could have been Conor McAleny who left Fleetwood for Kilmarnock in a loan deal. He's a 26 year old striker.

He is very injury prone!



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 20:47:21 pm
He is very injury prone!



Cracking goal scoring record tho hasn't he, mainly above our level too. Would have been a good signing if it was him!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 29, 2019, 21:21:53 pm
Meanwhile , other clubs in our division are signing seasoned , quality players .
We are signing young boys just out of childrenís football to go with our own academy players with little or no experience.
Itís a **** to say the least


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 21:44:34 pm
I think we must be the only team buying from Poundland  as opposed to Tescoís or am the only one thinking this ?

Do you mean borrowing from Poundland?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 29, 2019, 22:02:52 pm
Meanwhile , other clubs in our division are signing seasoned , quality players .
We are signing young boys just out of childrenís football to go with our own academy players with little or no experience.
Itís a **** to say the least
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 29, 2019, 22:07:52 pm
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  

Please be Taylor!

On incoming...big brutish target man Ollie Palmer anyone?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 29, 2019, 22:11:11 pm
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  

Hopefully not Turnbull - he is massively underrated and so valuable due to being able to play multiple positions.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 29, 2019, 22:20:04 pm
Hopefully not Turnbull - he is massively underrated and so valuable due to being able to play multiple positions.

Don't think it can be Turnbull as I don't know any NTFC supporter that doesn't rate him...

One of Taylor, A Williams, Powell or Hoskins I reckon...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 29, 2019, 22:23:10 pm
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  
Who yon about?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 29, 2019, 22:36:19 pm
I thought Andy Williams was more or less a done deal going by what some itkís have been saying? Perhaps the mystery man is bowditch but only if weíre lucky. The Ollie Palmer suggestion isnít a bad shout - werenít we tentatively linked with him earlier this season?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 29, 2019, 22:42:38 pm
I thought Andy Williams was more or less a done deal going by what some itkís have been saying? Perhaps the mystery man is bowditch but only if weíre lucky. The Ollie Palmer suggestion isnít a bad shout - werenít we tentatively linked with him earlier this season?

Bowditch and Powell both OOC in the Summer anyway so hoping it's one of the players on an 18 month contract...

Ollie Palmer only 27 too so good age if we're looking at spending a bit of cash...
He fits the bill of the type of focal point KC is talking about...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 29, 2019, 23:20:26 pm
If he amazed if Bowditch is still here come Friday!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 29, 2019, 23:49:24 pm
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  

This is a rumours thread so why not just say it rather than posting silly guessing games. ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 00:57:21 am
According to Twitter rumours we have been bidding for Shaquile Coulthirst from Barnet.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3245 on January 30, 2019, 02:21:46 am
Taylor to Tranmere.

Pierre to Wycombe

Bayo to Cobblers

Bradley Johnson to Cobblers on Loan

You heard it here first.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 30, 2019, 06:55:53 am
Taylor to Tranmere.

Pierre to Wycombe

Bayo to Cobblers

Bradley Johnson to Cobblers on Loan

You heard it here first.

Ha, if Taylor was sold to Tranmere you would hope we put a clause in stating HE CAN play against us next week!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 07:08:01 am
According to Twitter rumours we have been bidding for Shaquile Coulthirst from Barnet.

The obvious problem with that - if it is accurate - is that Barnet are still in the FA Cup so itís very unlikely that coulthirst would want to leave them for us.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 08:51:07 am
Curles latest interview seems to be preparing us for a blank transfer window
Quel surprise  ::)
Expect a last minute untried young striker in on loan and spun as a terrific signing....
While everyone else strengthens we stagnate....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 30, 2019, 08:55:27 am
Iím going for Shay Facey


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 09:04:23 am
Curles latest interview seems to be preparing us for a blank transfer window
Quel surprise  ::)
Expect a last minute untried young striker in on loan and spun as a terrific signing....
While everyone else strengthens we stagnate....


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transfers/wettbewerb/GB4/plus/?saison_id=2018&s_w=w&leihe=0&leihe=1&intern=0&intern=1
I don't see many Fourth Division clubs shopping at 'Harrods' or even M&S compared to our 'Poundland'?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 09:05:31 am
Iím going for Shay Facey
Hope so, Hoskins or Taylor would also be a right result.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 09:31:42 am
This is a rumours thread so why not just say it rather than posting silly guessing games. ::)
Because it's not a rumour.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 09:34:03 am
Unbelievable !!!
Possible incoming..........


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 09:34:23 am
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transfers/wettbewerb/GB4/plus/?saison_id=2018&s_w=w&leihe=0&leihe=1&intern=0&intern=1
I don't see many Fourth Division clubs shopping at 'Harrods' or even M&S compared to our 'Poundland'?

Doesn't fit the rhetoric though does it!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 09:42:35 am
Doesn't fit the rhetoric though does it!
Youíre right but a few are at Tescoís and Morrisonís and have gone through the checkout!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 09:44:12 am
Youíre right but a few are at Tescoís and Morrisonís and have gone through the checkout!!

Thank the lord we aren't using Safeway, god rest it's soul.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 30, 2019, 10:55:12 am
Unbelievable !!!
Possible incoming..........

No Idea who?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 10:57:57 am
I thought the main objective when KC came in was to get to the January window and then he would be able to put together his ďjigsawĒ, now weíre one day away from it closing and weíre waiting for ďdominoes to fallĒ with 2 x 20 year old rookies and another 20 year old who admittedly has a bit more pedigree about him.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 30, 2019, 11:03:35 am
I thought the main objective when KC came in was to get to the January window and then he would be able to put together his ďjigsawĒ, now weíre one day away from it closing and weíre waiting for ďdominoes to fallĒ with 2 x 20 year old rookies and another 20 year old who admittedly has a bit more pedigree about him.
Unless he is not being backed for whatever reason .......
Either way , we now look incredibly weak .
Young , inexperienced players are not the answer when we are in this position.
This is desperate in my view


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 11:15:12 am
Could have been Conor McAleny who left Fleetwood for Kilmarnock in a loan deal. He's a 26 year old striker.

Wrong Kilmarnock signing, my guess!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 30, 2019, 11:19:00 am
Unless he is not being backed for whatever reason .......
Either way , we now look incredibly weak .
Young , inexperienced players are not the answer when we are in this position.
This is desperate in my view

Curle says heís more than happy to go with what weíve got!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 11:23:33 am
Curle says heís more than happy to go with what weíve got!!

Despite the possible return of a couple of players from injury, if KC and KT really believe that then we really are sleepwalking towards relegation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 11:28:30 am
Too many worriers on here over something that, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that important.
Paramedics and the NGH are already busy without some of the members on here adding to their workload.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 30, 2019, 11:47:13 am
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transfers/wettbewerb/GB4/plus/?saison_id=2018&s_w=w&leihe=0&leihe=1&intern=0&intern=1


I'm impressed by the Carlisle signings. I had no idea that Callum O'Hare had been allowed out on loan.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 11:52:44 am
I'm impressed by the Carlisle signings. I had no idea that Callum O'Hare had been allowed out on loan.
Bet Keithís glad he left  ???


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3114 on January 30, 2019, 11:56:19 am
Iím not saying theyíre not, but if the right players are not available then please god letís not sign someone for the sake of it again? The inactivity might just be for the right reasons, maybe?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 11:56:43 am
Sixfields a hive of activity at the moment.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 11:58:36 am
Iím not saying theyíre not, but if the right players are not available then please god letís not sign someone for the sake of it again? The inactivity might just be for the right reasons, maybe?

I agree fully.

We all want signings and improvements, has to be right though. How much rubbish have we signed over the past few years.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 12:02:58 pm
Sixfields a hive of activity at the moment.

Is that you sat by the window in KFC?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 30, 2019, 12:04:07 pm
They don't buy them thinking that they're rubbish at the time though. Almost anyone we've brought or will bring in is a calculated **** at best. Shaun Harrad was a guarnateed League 2 goalscorer pinched from Burton, people moaned about Holmes because he was surplus to requirements at Portsmouth.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 12:06:28 pm
Donít get me wrong I agree entirely but if the window closes and we fail to add quality while at the same time losing more players (which sounds entirely possible) then we are potentially in big trouble. I think we all know how the transfer window works but my issue (yet again) is that we have pretty much got to the eve of it closing and are still no nearer to bringing in additions.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 12:14:08 pm
Donít get me wrong I agree entirely but if the window closes and we fail to add quality while at the same time losing more players (which sounds entirely possible) then we are potentially in big trouble. I think we all know how the transfer window works but my issue (yet again) is that we have pretty much got to the eve of it closing and are still no nearer to bringing in additions.

We have brought in three players so far?

(I get your point btw, just providing the other side argument)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 12:20:04 pm
We have brought in three players so far?

(I get your point btw, just providing the other side argument)

I take your point too but as we know neither Cox (who now looks like heís going to be out for a while) or Powell have ever played a league game - to be fair for an hour on Saturday Elsnik looked decent.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 30, 2019, 12:33:35 pm
I take your point too but as we know neither Cox (who now looks like heís going to be out for a while) or Powell have ever played a league game - to be fair for an hour on Saturday Elsnik looked decent.

Nail on the head.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 30, 2019, 12:42:27 pm
Curle says heís more than happy to go with what weíve got!!
Curle can say what the hell he likes - I donít care .
I go to games home and away and I can make my own judgement thanks.
My judgement is that what we have is not enough and itís far too unbalanced with inexperience .
There is no doubt , we could get dragged into relegation if we get too many injuries .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 12:54:57 pm
Is that you sat by the window in KFC?
Frankie and bennies


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 14:05:57 pm
Despite the possible return of a couple of players from injury, if KC and KT really believe that then we really are sleepwalking towards relegation.

You are truly pathetic with your worry beads.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 14:17:44 pm
This is a rumours thread so why not just say it rather than posting silly guessing games. ::)

Agree with you - said poster is master of fake news!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 30, 2019, 14:19:27 pm
You are truly pathetic with your worry beads.
I think you might be in a minority if you think that we are safe.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 14:30:24 pm
You are truly pathetic with your worry beads.

You really can't help yourself with the personal attacks can you, with the added factor that you give it out but can't take it. I don't know if you're going senile or if you're just a wind-up merchant, probably a bit of both.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 14:42:05 pm
You really can't help yourself with the personal attacks can you, with the added factor that you give it out but can't take it. I don't know if you're going senile or if you're just a wind-up merchant, probably a bit of both.
Made me chuckle, I think Evers may have a few different personas on here TBH. :o


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 30, 2019, 14:44:02 pm
Think a few of us are sounding like 'Marvin the Robot' at the moment. Even so, hearing the next departure didn't lift my mood in any way. Won't be everyone's favourite but I liked him. Wish him well with his move and hope he keeps his place when playing well.  

Any update on this Mathius?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 14:59:15 pm
I think you might be in a minority if you think that we are safe.

We are not safe at all, taking the last two results plus two wins in 12 it would be fool hardy to agree with you ::)
Some posters are exhibiting too many concerns over an hypothetical situation. Wait for what the transfer window brings.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 30, 2019, 14:59:56 pm
Could have been Conor McAleny who left Fleetwood for Kilmarnock in a loan deal. He's a 26 year old striker.

I think it's more likely Peter Pawlett or maybe even Alex Bruce. Fit the description a bit more.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 15:04:51 pm
You really can't help yourself with the personal attacks can you, with the added factor that you give it out but can't take it. I don't know if you're going senile or if you're just a wind-up merchant, probably a bit of both.

Sorry I forgot you are a sensitive soul!  Hardly a personal attack when you are quite happy to dish personal comments out.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 30, 2019, 15:10:17 pm
Sorry I forgot you are a sensitive soul!  Hardly a personal attack when you are am quite happy to dish personal comments out.

To be fair Evers, I don't think he's being a particularly delicate flower by viewing the words "you are truly pathetic" as a personal attack. I'd say that's the very definition of a personal attack!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 15:14:00 pm
Sorry I forgot you are a sensitive soul!  Hardly a personal attack when you are quite happy to dish personal comments out.

Sorry Evers, I didnít understand the majority of that, you really should proofread your posts before you click post. Admittedly Iím coming to the conclusion that Iím old school in that I actually consider what I post and post what I feel rather than troll people and wind-up constantly.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 30, 2019, 15:21:48 pm
We are not safe at all, taking the last two results plus two wins in 12 it would be fool hardy to agree with you ::)
Some posters are exhibiting too many concerns over an hypothetical situation. Wait for what the transfer window brings.
There is one day to go .....
We have brought in one decent player and two debutants to first team / menís football .
The two match winners in the team have gone ....
Iím not holding my breath.
Iím with Barton - these are concerning times


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 15:22:36 pm
Sorry Evers, I didnít understand the majority of that, you really should proofread your posts before you click post. Admittedly Iím coming to the conclusion that Iím old school in that I actually consider what I post and post what I feel rather than troll people and wind-up constantly.

Ok - good comments without resorting to personal view points.I appreciate you now but if you can please cheer up up it will help. Thks


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 15:44:02 pm
Any update on this Mathius?
I hate oceans.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblertone on January 30, 2019, 15:44:46 pm
I heard Crooksí ex sponsor is waiting for a Ďdecentí player to arrive. Iím not sure if that was when Crooks was still here though....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 15:45:08 pm
There is one day to go .....
We have brought in one decent player and two debutants to first team / menís football .
The two match winners in the team have gone ....
Iím not holding my breath.
Iím with Barton - these are concerning times

I still Think you are worrying too much!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 15:46:31 pm
Any update on this Mathius?
He's probably driven to Scotland by now and the Club can't be bothered to tell us. I'm so depressed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 15:58:38 pm
He's probably driven to Scotland by now and the Club can't be bothered to tell us. I'm so depressed.

Jesus Christ! What are you, five years old? Just say it if you think you know something, FFS! ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 30, 2019, 16:01:16 pm
I hate oceans.
Luke Coddington or Sean Whaler  ;D ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Ron Obvious on January 30, 2019, 16:03:41 pm
Luke Coddington or Sean Whaler  ;D ;D

Scott Pollock.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: cobblergaz59 on January 30, 2019, 16:07:26 pm
Scott Pollock.
Makes more sense given 2nd clue tbf


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 16:12:38 pm
I hate oceans.
Billy ocean
When the going gets tough.....
You sell your best players and donít replace them ::)

I loved that song back in the day.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 30, 2019, 16:14:42 pm
Unless he is not being backed for whatever reason .......
Either way , we now look incredibly weak .
Young , inexperienced players are not the answer when we are in this position.
This is desperate in my view

I'm not sure we're any weaker than before, let alone 'incredibly' weaker (hyperbole much?). We have lost Crooks and Van Veen. Morias barely featured in the first 4-5 months of the season prior to VV's leaving, still feels like a new signing and will fill the VV gap. Elsnik, Powell and the returning O'Toole should be enough to cover for the loss of Crooks. We have also bought in a LB to improve that position.

Injuries have been killing us in recent weeks as they would any team with such a list of walking wounded. We still have a pretty big squad with plenty of options.

Cornell

Facey
Pierre
Turnbull
Cox

O'Toole
Foley
Bridge
Elsnik
Powell

Williams

SUBS: Morias, McWiliams, J.Williams, Bowditch, Taylor, Buchanan, Coddington


A balanced side and squad with a mix of youth and experience and no Hoskins or D.Powell to boot.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 16:26:18 pm
Makes more sense given 2nd clue tbf
Sorry. It was just a Marvin quote from Hitchhiker's.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 16:26:58 pm
I'm not sure we're any weaker than before, let alone 'incredibly' weaker (hyperbole much?). We have lost Crooks and Van Veen. Morias barely featured in the first 4-5 months of the season prior to VV's leaving, still feels like a new signing and will fill the VV gap. Elsnik, Powell and the returning O'Toole should be enough to cover for the loss of Crooks. We have also bought in a LB to improve that position.

Injuries have been killing us in recent weeks as they would any team with such a list of walking wounded. We still have a pretty big squad with plenty of options.

Cornell

Facey
Pierre
Turnbull
Cox

O'Toole
Foley
Bridge
Elsnik
Powell

Williams

SUBS: Morias, McWiliams, J.Williams, Bowditch, Taylor, Buchanan, Coddington


A balanced side and squad with a mix of youth and experience and no Hoskins or D.Powell to boot.
I like it apart from the kid from WHU. I would have Morias in the team all day long.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 30, 2019, 16:27:18 pm
I'm not sure we're any weaker than before, let alone 'incredibly' weaker (hyperbole much?). We have lost Crooks and Van Veen. Morias barely featured in the first 4-5 months of the season prior to VV's leaving, still feels like a new signing and will fill the VV gap. Elsnik, Powell and the returning O'Toole should be enough to cover for the loss of Crooks. We have also bought in a LB to improve that position.

Injuries have been killing us in recent weeks as they would any team with such a list of walking wounded. We still have a pretty big squad with plenty of options.

Cornell

Facey
Pierre
Turnbull
Cox

O'Toole
Foley
Bridge
Elsnik
Powell

Williams

SUBS: Morias, McWiliams, J.Williams, Bowditch, Taylor, Buchanan, Coddington


A balanced side and squad with a mix of youth and experience and no Hoskins or D.Powell to boot.
Well you have been wrong with pretty much everything you have predicted so far Clarence , but even a stopped clock is right twice in a day so letís hope this is the prediction that goes in your favour.
Iím not so sure - we have not strengthened in this window as far as I can see and it is no time to rely on youth .
Hopefully we will just about be ok if there arenít too many injuries but itís hardly inspiring


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 16:29:39 pm
Makes more sense given 2nd clue tbf
Hang on a minute... just realised I gave an unintentional clue. The sub-conscious mind is a mysterious wonder!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 30, 2019, 16:35:54 pm
Hang on a minute... just realised I gave an unintentional clue. The sub-conscious mind is a mysterious wonder!

You love these stupid cryptic clues don't you. I think it's just a game for you to enjoy whilst thinking you know something that others don't.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 30, 2019, 16:39:52 pm
Hang on a minute... just realised I gave an unintentional clue. The sub-conscious mind is a mysterious wonder!

Perhaps your sub-conscious was trying to tell you to stop being a complete pr1ck.

Nice one...now I'm triggered again you are going on my So Many Secrets thread.  Hope you are happy now!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 16:40:29 pm
I'm not sure we're any weaker than before, let alone 'incredibly' weaker (hyperbole much?). We have lost Crooks and Van Veen. Morias barely featured in the first 4-5 months of the season prior to VV's leaving, still feels like a new signing and will fill the VV gap. Elsnik, Powell and the returning O'Toole should be enough to cover for the loss of Crooks. We have also bought in a LB to improve that position.

Injuries have been killing us in recent weeks as they would any team with such a list of walking wounded. We still have a pretty big squad with plenty of options.

Cornell

Facey
Pierre
Turnbull
Cox

O'Toole
Foley
Bridge
Elsnik
Powell

Williams

SUBS: Morias, McWiliams, J.Williams, Bowditch, Taylor, Buchanan, Coddington


A balanced side and squad with a mix of youth and experience and no Hoskins or D.Powell to boot.

Itís ok until you factor in that KC refuses to play 4-4-2, cox looks like heís going to be out for a while, Powell had a pretty poor debut, jjot has been out for ages and even before that looked light years from the player he was, Ash Taylor looks a guaranteed starter whenever heís fit and the window is still open until tomorrow night and Andy Williams (and whoever Matthias is referring to) could well be off - in any case if KC prefers Hoskins up front ahead of him then thereís not much of a future for him. Having said all that I donít want to be accused by Evers of being negative so take it all with a pinch of salt if you like, itís only my opinion after all - everything in the cobblers garden is rosey!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 16:48:54 pm
You love these stupid cryptic clues don't you. I think it's just a game for you to enjoy whilst thinking you know something that others don't.


As stated previously, when you give names you get criticised, not giving names also leaves you open to criticism. So you take your pick...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 16:51:22 pm
Hang on a minute... just realised I gave an unintentional clue. The sub-conscious mind is a mysterious wonder!

**** grow up!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 30, 2019, 16:52:55 pm
As stated previously, when you give names you get criticised, not giving names also leaves you open to criticism. So you take your pick...

No, you just enjoy thinking you know something. If you and your 'source' were 100% sure you would have no reason to worry. This is a rumours thread so nobody should hold it against you in any case.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 16:54:01 pm
As stated previously, when you give names you get criticised, not giving names also leaves you open to criticism. So you take your pick...

So if you've got nothing to say why not just keep it shut? After all, pretty much any one of us could come on here this week and predict some movement.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 17:09:28 pm
Perhaps your sub-conscious was trying to tell you to stop being a complete pr1ck.

Nice one...now I'm triggered again you are going on my So Many Secrets thread.  Hope you are happy now!!!

Now then practice what you preach


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 30, 2019, 17:55:34 pm
Player news coming at 6pm


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 18:07:29 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/hakeem_odoffin/

Presume this is the player news?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 18:07:37 pm
OdOFFin.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 30, 2019, 18:08:26 pm
Of all the players who could have gone I wouldn't have predicted Odoffin, who hasn't done too badly in the last couple of times I've seen him. Certainly no worse than Facey.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 18:09:12 pm
I guess you can only get rid of people if people are willing to take them? Suspect Facey is on a half decent wage.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wazzacobbler on January 30, 2019, 18:10:19 pm
OdOFFin.
;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 18:10:33 pm
Makes sense due to cost cutting but only if Cam McWilliams steps in to a RB/RWB cover.

Also for me, he gave me nightmare flashbacks of Paul Rodgers especially at RB, he was ok, if a bit raw at CB


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 18:10:47 pm
Of all the players who could have gone I wouldn't have predicted Odoffin, who hasn't done too badly in the last couple of times I've seen him. Certainly no worse than Facey.

This. Clearly KC doesnít fancy him but like others have said heís been better than facey.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: lordjord on January 30, 2019, 18:12:20 pm
That does seem odd, he played well the last few times he was picked. We now dont have any cover at RB and considering we play with 3 CB's most of the time he was a useful squad player.

Curle clearly thinks that playing Hoskins / Powell / anyone else at RWB is ok.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 30, 2019, 18:12:38 pm
Fire Sale.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: wazzacobbler on January 30, 2019, 18:12:45 pm
Makes sense due to cost cutting but only if Cam McWilliams steps in to a RB/RWB cover.

I think Cam would be an able deputy to be fair. Plus, Curle prefers to play with wing backs so losing a right back that never features is hardly a surprise or a loss to the team.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 30, 2019, 18:30:33 pm
Now then practice what you preach

Oh no I've made the stalking list.  Still if I can get you your 20k pointless posts quicker....you're welcome.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 30, 2019, 18:35:40 pm
I think Cam would be an able deputy to be fair. Plus, Curle prefers to play with wing backs so losing a right back that never features is hardly a surprise or a loss to the team.

It's this really isn't it.  An easier and obvious body to get off the wage bill with the cheaper and potentially better youth cover we have in the squad.

Good luck to the lad though as he had a two year contract so could have easily sat back and taken the money like others have in the past.  Also glad we have added a sell on clause just in case as I still think he's someone that with enough game time could be a player.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 18:37:43 pm
Fire Sale.

I'm not sure someone we signed on a free transfer on a low wage being moved on fits this category. Sorry.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 18:38:38 pm
Fire Sale.
This perhaps now we've sold a quarter of the team and brought in a load of another teams U21 kids the PowerPoint King will have a few quid to fix all the broken glass in the west stand concourse, #under promise over deliver.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 30, 2019, 18:43:21 pm
Disappointed by this, I liked Odoffin.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 18:44:03 pm
I'm not sure someone we signed on a free transfer on a low wage being moved on fits this category. Sorry.
Did Kelvin tell you what all the players earn during your meeting  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 30, 2019, 18:44:43 pm
Looks like it all comes down to tomorrow then?

Is it going to be another deadline day of "We had bids in for players" or will we see any quality with experience added when the dominoes all fall in to the jigsaw puzzle?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 18:47:36 pm
Am I the only one that thinks KC talk b0llocks?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 18:58:10 pm
This. Clearly KC doesnít fancy him but like others have said heís been better than facey.

Agree. Somewhat erratic, but not without a fair degree of potential. I think that given time and coaching he might have ended up as a solid centre half, with the ability to also play anywhere down the right. I doubt he was on big money, so a little surprising given all these youth players we are currently bringing in.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 19:00:32 pm
Did Kelvin tell you what all the players earn during your meeting  ;D

Yep.

Odoffin was on £13.50 and 7 packs of Wotsits


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 19:02:14 pm
Looks like it all comes down to tomorrow then?

Is it going to be another deadline day of "We had bids in for players" or will we see any quality with experience added when the dominoes all fall in to the jigsaw puzzle?

I'm guessing there'll be at least one additional... loan. :(


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 30, 2019, 19:03:07 pm
Whats happened to signing Nile POWER Ranger then??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 19:05:27 pm
I'm guessing there'll be at least one additional... loan. :(

To get us through to the summer when we can spend and recruit big to replace those out of contract...


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 30, 2019, 19:06:03 pm
Itís all pointing to the Ďall quiet on DDí tweet isnít it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 19:07:45 pm
Fire Sale.

Why?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 19:10:49 pm
To get us through to the summer when we can spend and recruit big to replace those out of contract...

We'll have no sensible chatter on here please!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teyn and proud on January 30, 2019, 19:16:50 pm
Any signings tomorrow are as you all know are going to be panic signings and there is only one way this is going to play out answers on a post card please


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 19:23:33 pm
We'll have no sensible chatter on here please!
Do you honestly beleive that.....
All the evidence is to the contrary
I do hope you havenít been brainwashed  :o ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 30, 2019, 19:26:12 pm
So are things panning out how u expected so far this week GeneralCobb?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 19:27:13 pm
Do you honestly beleive that.....
All the evidence is to the contrary
I do hope you havenít been brainwashed  :o ;D

That Deepcut is talking sense? Yes.

Am i happy with our transfer window so far? No.

Am I realistic? Yes.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 19:27:56 pm
So are things panning out how u expected so far this week GeneralCobb?

I had no info on signings or sales so didn't expect anything.

Could do with a couple in couldn't we!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Spinney cobbler on January 30, 2019, 19:29:09 pm
Am I the only one that thinks KC talk b0llocks?
No.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 19:29:36 pm
To get us through to the summer when we can spend and recruit big to replace those out of contract...

Again with the glass half empty (apologies Evers) what if we do get well and truly embroiled in the relegation fight and manage to shoot ourselves in the foot - are we likely to spend and recruit big in the conference? I accept and admire those (and this obviously includes KC and KT) who think weíre going to be fine but weíve been down this road before.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2019, 19:31:16 pm
Yep.

Odoffin was on £13.50 and 7 packs of Wotsits
  ;D not sure he was worth the £13.50.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2019, 19:42:27 pm
Again with the glass half empty (apologies Evers) what if we do get well and truly embroiled in the relegation fight and manage to shoot ourselves in the foot - are we likely to spend and recruit big in the conference? I accept and admire those (and this obviously includes KC and KT) who think weíre going to be fine but weíve been down this road before.

Carry on McDuff and stop taking the proverbial.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 30, 2019, 19:47:36 pm
Itís ok until you factor in that KC refuses to play 4-4-2, cox looks like heís going to be out for a while, Powell had a pretty poor debut, jjot has been out for ages and even before that looked light years from the player he was, Ash Taylor looks a guaranteed starter whenever heís fit and the window is still open until tomorrow night and Andy Williams (and whoever Matthias is referring to) could well be off - in any case if KC prefers Hoskins up front ahead of him then thereís not much of a future for him. Having said all that I donít want to be accused by Evers of being negative so take it all with a pinch of salt if you like, itís only my opinion after all - everything in the cobblers garden is rosey!


The team I listed was just an example, I could list numerous other viable line-ups/formations. I know KC will play Hoskins etc. Most of what you say just confirms my overall point that the squad as it stands has options. To address some points: JJOT was playing with an injury or while unfit and could well be more like his old self on his return; don't write off Powell on the basis of 1 match; Turnbull has been playing in the midfield to cover for injuries to JJOT/McWilliams/Foley, now they are on the way back KC may revert to 4 at the back with a Pierre and Turnbull CB partnership.

No problem with negativity or criticism from me, I just wanted to put forth some balance to 'the end is nigh' rhetoric.  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 30, 2019, 19:51:16 pm
Do you honestly beleive that.....
All the evidence is to the contrary
I do hope you havenít been brainwashed  :o ;D

Laughable isn't it.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: SadOldGit on January 30, 2019, 19:51:52 pm
Do you think the ticket prices will be a lot lower in the conference?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 30, 2019, 19:54:18 pm
Disappointed by this, I liked Odoffin.

I thought he was a solid enough second string player at this level, but with Pierre/Turnbull/Taylor/J.Williams as our 4 CB's, Facey first choice right back (as well as arguably being 5th choice CB) and KC possibly opting for a settled 3-5-2 formation for the run in he was way down the pecking order and probably surplus to current requirements.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 19:55:33 pm
Letís see what tomorrow brings.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Knockingonabit on January 30, 2019, 19:58:37 pm
All the bookies on Oddschecker have us at 50 to 1 against Relegation. Seems like a good opportunity for a few on here.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 20:11:02 pm
Laughable isn't it.

Someone isn't glass half empty doom and gloom shock!



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 30, 2019, 20:12:41 pm
Letís see what tomorrow brings.....

Possibility of more snow!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 20:18:28 pm
Carry on McDuff and stop taking the proverbial.

If we were nearer to the "magical" 51 points I would be more inclined to start planning for next season - I can't help but thinking that some on here are putting the cart before the horse. Oh and Evers you can cut the personal stuff out right now - if you don't like what I post then when you see my name just ignore it the same way I'm going to deal with your posts from now on.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 20:33:40 pm
Possibility of more snow!

Can just see it now, we were going to sign 4 quality sigings but they are all stuck in the snow!! 😂😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3230 on January 30, 2019, 20:34:23 pm
Can just see it now, we were going to sign 4 quality sigings but they are all stuck in the snow!! 😂😂😂😂😂

 ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 30, 2019, 20:53:37 pm
To get us through to the summer when we can spend and recruit big to replace those out of contract...

No problem at all with this. I just hope that if someone does come in they are a little more proven than recent acquisitions.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 20:59:34 pm
As I said at the time
Il beleive we will bring in quality permanent signings when i see it !!!
No properly run club hurriedly ushers there top scorer and midfield playmaker (both marque signings) as soon as the window opens and has no one instantly lined up to replace them.
In fact we are still scratting about as the window closes and still havenít replaced them!
That sends one message to me(rightly or wrongly) that we are in the **** and desperately needed to offload or the club would go bust.
Thatís not doomongering,itís logic.

Getting in two bob loans(of no long term benefit to the club,indicating only short term planning) also sends a signal(rightly or wrongly)

Now tomorrow the board might play a blinder by investing some cash on a couple of desperately needed quality signings....
I personally doubt it
If they fail to do this in my opinion it will be nothing short of disgraceful given theyíve had weeks to sort it out(itís not as if van veen and crooks were sold today)
Iím afraid if thatís the case any spin/turd polishing that comes from the club will fall on deaf ears here.

FYI
An ambitious club with a long term on field strategy would have stolen a march on other clubs by selling early and having replacements in place before other clubs could act.
Transfer window day(or Thursday as ntfc call it ) will be a real barometer of the boards ambition or lack of.

Either theyíll play a blinder or even the most claret tinted supporter will see through the spin for the busted flush it is!!
Iím hoping itís the former but with no confidence whatsoever as reading between the lines
KCí Iím happy to go with what weíve gotí
KT deafening silence
Jeremy Casey
Theyíre trying hard to get players in but nothing at the moment...

One day to go.....


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 30, 2019, 21:04:14 pm
The fact that the Livingston boss says that Ďthe opportunity to sign Hakeem presented itself in this windowí  suggests that we have indeed made players available for transfer and loan.
Look at the likes of Van Veen, Crooks and Waters, theyíre all on the bench for their new clubs every game.

Itís all about cutting costs for us.....be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: singcobb on January 30, 2019, 21:25:42 pm
If we were nearer to the "magical" 51 points I would be more inclined to start planning for next season - I can't help but thinking that some on here are putting the cart before the horse. Oh and Evers you can cut the personal stuff out right now - if you don't like what I post then when you see my name just ignore it the same way I'm going to deal with your posts from now on.

In the last two seasons 47 would have been enough with only two going down.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 30, 2019, 21:28:06 pm
The fact that the Livingston boss says that Ďthe opportunity to sign Hakeem presented itself in this windowí  suggests that we have indeed made players available for transfer and loan.
Look at the likes of Van Veen, Crooks and Waters, theyíre all on the bench for their new clubs every game.

Itís all about cutting costs for us.....be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.
Basically then with the current board we are unable to function as anything more than a non league/league two club.
The days of the next level spiel seem long ago
For that to happen we need someone to invest into the club and join the board or new ownership with the requisite funds to help us attain and survive at league one level
Terrific ::)
We can look forward to being run on a tight budget as a league two club while we still sit in an unfinished stadium year on year
Basically to progress we need new owners
How many must we go through until we finally find one with the ambition and finance to make us anything other than a league two also ran??


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 21:30:37 pm
In the last two seasons 47 would have been enough with only two going down.

Letís hope thatís the case again - I read somewhere that 51 would more or less guarantee survival.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 21:35:27 pm
OdOFFin.
Spot on! Unintentional as I said earlier.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 21:42:10 pm
This. Clearly KC doesnít fancy him but like others have said heís been better than facey.
Agree with this. As said yesterday, hope his new club doesn't drop him after having a good game. Clearly wasn't in KC's plans for some time.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: ajp on January 30, 2019, 21:52:06 pm
Any inside info on potential incomings Mathius?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 22:02:34 pm
Any inside info on potential incomings Mathius?
There are several offers on the table from us so it's always possible. One that's been on here [I think] is the tall forward that gave us so many problems at Cambridge. One offer turned down was for a prominent forward in the league below.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 22:05:45 pm
He won't tell us anything even if he knows.
I refer you to my previous statement. Have a lovely evening.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 30, 2019, 22:06:57 pm
I refer you to my previous statement. Have a lovely evening.

I deleted it and thanks for the information.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 22:11:13 pm
I deleted it and thanks for the information.
No, thank you, TP.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 22:11:25 pm
There are several offers on the table from us so it's always possible. One that's been on here [I think] is the tall forward that gave us so many problems at Cambridge. One offer turned down was for a prominent forward in the league below.

Would that be Jabo "runs in treacle" Ibhere and shaquille coulthirst from Barnet? Can't see coulthirst coming here in a million years with Barnet still in the cup.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 22:17:34 pm
I see Doncaster have reportedly turned down a 1.25 million offer for Marquis from Sunderland today.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 30, 2019, 22:21:14 pm
shaquille coulthirst from Barnet? Can't see coulthirst coming here in a million years with Barnet still in the cup.

Whyís that  ???

The chance of league football, a nice pay rise and an extended contract or an away trip to Brentford on a Tuesday night?

I know which one Iíd rather!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 22:22:18 pm
Would that be Jabo "runs in treacle" Ibhere and shaquille coulthirst from Barnet? Can't see coulthirst coming here in a million years with Barnet still in the cup.
It was unlikely anyway but his performance the other night means there will be better offers on the table - if there wasn't before.

Looks like an offer of £1.2m was turned by Doncaster for John Marquis. How did we let him go? Underlines how clueless we've been for a number of years.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 30, 2019, 22:23:56 pm
The supporters of this club are being mugged off .
Mugged off by the chairman and mugged off by the manager.
We are paying customers and the fabric of the club and yet there is a wall of silence as we sell good players and bring in low budget replacements .
Tell us what the hell is going on and be straight with us all.
When was the last time there was a fans forum with either manager or chairman ??
Right now , the fans are being taken for granted and I for one am fed up with it all.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Irchy cob on January 30, 2019, 22:40:54 pm
Are we just ďlookingĒ at a striker - I know KC has muttered something about getting a focal point forward in but Iím pretty sure that coulthirst is more of a pacy type? Also I got the impression that he wanted more experience in the middle but that seems to have gone quiet.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 30, 2019, 22:46:12 pm
Must be others but these are the only 2 I've heard about.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Clarity on January 31, 2019, 00:18:31 am
It was unlikely anyway but his performance the other night means there will be better offers on the table - if there wasn't before.

Looks like an offer of £1.2m was turned by Doncaster for John Marquis. How did we let him go? Underlines how clueless we've been for a number of years.
We didnít let him go, he was on loan under Wilder. He got fixed up before Page arrived


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 31, 2019, 08:35:20 am
We didnít let him go, he was on loan under Wilder. He got fixed up before Page arrived

The Majority let the promotion get to theor heads and thought we going to get a bigger name at the time.

Not suprising when people think we should be spending big after 5 mamagers in 3 years and a failed chinese millions project.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 09:52:13 am
We didnít let him go, he was on loan under Wilder. He got fixed up before Page arrived
Point is, he was keen to stay. We missed out then, but it was his second loan to us. Thought he showed enough on his first loan to get signed up. Think there are few who would agree that we missed out. I wish him all the best because of his efforts when playing for us.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 31, 2019, 09:56:42 am
Gotta love the hindsight supporters regarding Marquis.  I don't remember a massive outpouring of anger when we didn't sign him.  Most of the comments I remember at the time felt he was good but there were plenty of other players just as good out there.

As for potentially missing out on a million pound windfall bear this in mind.  Do you honestly believe playing for us we would have turned him into the player he is today.  What other strikers have we ever done that with?  Playing for us we'd have knocked any semblance of quality out of him and just got him to run the channels and chase lost causes.

He signed and played in a successful league two promotion winning Doncaster side playing attractive football the momentum of which they carried in to league one.

Even if we allow ourselves to dream that any of this would have happened we'd have snapped someone's hand off years ago the moment the first 300k bid came in.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 10:01:12 am
Are we just ďlookingĒ at a striker - I know KC has muttered something about getting a focal point forward in but Iím pretty sure that coulthirst is more of a pacy type? Also I got the impression that he wanted more experience in the middle but that seems to have gone quiet.
Must be an ever-widening net as players turn us down. Even KC admitting this morning that we are not top of list for would-be signings. The answer will probably be that we pay over the odds as usual and that less money is available in the budget where required elsewhere.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 10:13:01 am
Gotta love the hindsight supporters regarding Marquis.  I don't remember a massive outpouring of anger when we didn't sign him.  Most of the comments I remember at the time felt he was good but there were plenty of other players just as good out there.

As for potentially missing out on a million pound windfall bear this in mind.  Do you honestly believe playing for us we would have turned him into the player he is today.  What other strikers have we ever done that with?  Playing for us we'd have knocked any semblance of quality out of him and just got him to run the channels and chase lost causes.

He signed and played in a successful league two promotion winning Doncaster side playing attractive football the momentum of which they carried in to league one.

Even if we allow ourselves to dream that any of this would have happened we'd have snapped someone's hand off years ago the moment the first 300k bid came in.

Agree, for me in his time with us no-one could have possibly expected him to go on an be a 20+ goal a season forward in lg1.

I thought at the time we could have got better and kicked on - Hindsight is a wonderful thing!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 31, 2019, 10:14:35 am
Gotta love the hindsight supporters regarding Marquis.  I don't remember a massive outpouring of anger when we didn't sign him.  Most of the comments I remember at the time felt he was good but there were plenty of other players just as good out there.

As for potentially missing out on a million pound windfall bear this in mind.  Do you honestly believe playing for us we would have turned him into the player he is today.  What other strikers have we ever done that with?  Playing for us we'd have knocked any semblance of quality out of him and just got him to run the channels and chase lost causes.

He signed and played in a successful league two promotion winning Doncaster side playing attractive football the momentum of which they carried in to league one.

Even if we allow ourselves to dream that any of this would have happened we'd have snapped someone's hand off years ago the moment the first 300k bid came in.

Nail on head!!

There is no gusrantee that he would have been the success he is now had he stayed with us. I actually thought that James Collins was the more natural finisher out of the two we had on loan. Look at him now....only 55 goals in 117 games for Crawley and Luton since he was with us.


Its times like these that expose the loan system for what it is.....a short term fix. How often do we get someone in on loan with a view to signing them permanently?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 31, 2019, 10:33:45 am
Joe Bunney ends loan spell at Blackpool and immediately joins Rochdale on loan until the end of the season.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 31, 2019, 10:42:00 am
Joe Bunney ends loan spell at Blackpool and immediately joins Rochdale on loan until the end of the season.

good job we signed 2 left wing backs on loan to replace him rather than using the one tailor made player for that position


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 10:49:11 am
Strange one this Bunney situation....

Surely perfect for us if sticking with 352...I think Rochdale play that formation too...

Also, would have thought we would have included the option that Rochdale have to buy him in the Summer, otherwise we should have just left him at Blackpool?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 31, 2019, 10:50:45 am
good job we signed 2 left wing backs on loan to replace him rather than using the one tailor made player for that position


Yep. Ridiculous. He could definitely have done a job for us now we have this formation.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 31, 2019, 10:51:17 am
I See Port Vale have made a bid for Ashley Nadesan.
Scored a few goals at Carlisle earlier this season.
They was talk from Carlisle fans that we might be interested


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Razor on January 31, 2019, 10:51:35 am
Sunderland have had a £1,250,000 bid for John Marquis turned down.

That we turned down the chance to sign him for free just a few years ago must rank as the worst single player-based decision by the club that I can remember.

Some sensible and logical decisions in the transfer market were all it would have taken for us to maintain our momentum even after Wilder left. We would have had a properly sound footing both on the footballing and financial side.

But no, sensible and logical decisions are not what they do at NTFC.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 10:55:44 am
Gotta love the hindsight supporters regarding Marquis.  I don't remember a massive outpouring of anger when we didn't sign him.  Most of the comments I remember at the time felt he was good but there were plenty of other players just as good out there.

As for potentially missing out on a million pound windfall bear this in mind.  Do you honestly believe playing for us we would have turned him into the player he is today.  What other strikers have we ever done that with?  Playing for us we'd have knocked any semblance of quality out of him and just got him to run the channels and chase lost causes.

He signed and played in a successful league two promotion winning Doncaster side playing attractive football the momentum of which they carried in to league one.

Even if we allow ourselves to dream that any of this would have happened we'd have snapped someone's hand off years ago the moment the first 300k bid came in.
No. He would have done well enough for us to cash in on him, at about the £300K mark, when his contract had run down. It's the NTFC way.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 11:01:00 am
Sunderland have had a £1,250,000 bid for John Marquis turned down.

That we turned down the chance to sign him for free just a few years ago must rank as the worst single player-based decision by the club that I can remember.

Some sensible and logical decisions in the transfer market were all it would have taken for us to maintain our momentum even after Wilder left. We would have had a properly sound footing both on the footballing and financial side.

But no, sensible and logical decisions are not what they do at NTFC.
Agreed.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 11:05:15 am
Joe Bunney ends loan spell at Blackpool and immediately joins Rochdale on loan until the end of the season.
We paid a transfer fee for JB, to loan him back to the club we bought him from, to run his contract down. Just one facet of JFH's legacy.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 11:08:48 am
I See Port Vale have made a bid for Ashley Nadesan.
Scored a few goals at Carlisle earlier this season.
They was talk from Carlisle fans that we might be interested

I think we deffo were trying to sign him but Fleetwood then played him when he returned from his loan spell at Carlisle, so he can't play for another club this season
(I think that's the rule!)

If true, don't let Port Vale know  ;D #bants


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 31, 2019, 11:10:25 am
I think we deffo were trying to sign him but Fleetwood then played him when he returned from his loan spell at Carlisle, so he can't play for another club this season
(I think that's the rule!)

If true, don't let Port Vale know  ;D #bants
Makes no Sense in Port Vale signing him


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Another Pedj on January 31, 2019, 11:10:58 am
There is an awful lot of re writing of history on here

 For every Marquis fan there was someone who didnt rate him. "We  can do better" " He is not a goal scorer " He misses too many chances"

 Through Collins into the same discussion.Not many argued we should sign him, a few maybe but not the majority. Where is he now?

Bunny was,after his second game constantly vilified on here.Some of the posts became very personal. Now we have let our saviour go! The facts is that he doesn't want to be here and who can blame him.

Now,apparently, its all because of NTFCs decision making and policy.  Please tell me with the split in opinions,  an being example on this board, how on earth are we going to introduce fan ownership. We couldn't and cannot agree between us. The answer I am sure will be but we will employ someone to make these decisions for us.

What do you think the current shareholders did?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 31, 2019, 11:18:50 am
There is an awful lot of re writing of history on here

 For every Marquis fan there was someone who didnt rate him. "We  can do better" " He is not a goal scorer " He misses too many chances"

 Through Collins into the same discussion.Not many argued we should sign him, a few maybe but not the majority. Where is he now?

Bunny was,after his second game constantly vilified on here.Some of the posts became very personal. Now we have let our saviour go! The facts is that he doesn't want to be here and who can blame him.

Now,apparently, its all because of NTFCs decision making and policy.  Please tell me with the split in opinions,  an being example on this board, how on earth are we going to introduce fan ownership. We couldn't and cannot agree between us. The answer I am sure will be but we will employ someone to make these decisions for us.

What do you think the current shareholders did?

Its a messageboard, its all about opinions. Yes there were people who sung Marquis' praises.......at times I thought he looked lazy and couldn't be bothered. As I said earlier I thought Collins was the better and more natural striker.
Bunney as a left back was shocking, as a wing back about average. nothing special but hey, we're fourth division!

There will always be differences in opinions. This is where people air them for all things Cobblers related, from the way the club is being run to the colour of the exit gates.

Don't try and stifle opinion.....this board is already a less populated place than it used to be.....many have left. Others will surely follow.

Keep the debate healthy, reasoned, and non-personal...............


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Razor on January 31, 2019, 11:34:16 am
Anyone with an ounce of sense could see we should have signed Marquis, it was an absolute no brainer! He was already something of a club legend in my book, scoring the most important Sixfields goal in history during his first spell and then going on to help us win the league as part of the best team we've had in a generation.

He was young - perhaps still slightly raw when compared to Rico - but already more than good enough to be playing every week and was only ever going to get better. He also made it public that he was desperate to sign for us and was available for nothing!

We literally couldn't lose by signing him, but we ended up with an ageing journeyman in Alex Revell instead and the rest is history.

The single most catastrophic non-transfer in modern NTFC history.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 11:39:54 am
Anyone with an ounce of sense could see we should have signed Marquis, it was an absolute no brainer! He was already something of a club legend in my book, scoring the most important Sixfields goal in history during his first spell and then going on to help us win the league as part of the best team we've had in a generation.

He was young - perhaps still slightly raw when compared to Rico - but already more than good enough to be playing every week and was only ever going to get better. He also made it public that he was desperate to sign for us and was available for nothing!

We literally couldn't lose by signing him, but we ended up with an ageing journeyman in Alex Revell instead and the rest is history.

The single most catastrophic non-transfer in modern NTFC history.
Couldn't agree more but some on here think you needed hindsight or a crystal ball to predict his rise. Maybe they should try another sport?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 31, 2019, 11:42:28 am
Joe Bunney's loan to Blackpool has been cut short and he's signed for Rochdale again.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 31, 2019, 11:43:36 am
I thought Marquis was a bit of a club legend after his drunken rant about Oxford from the top of the double decker on the Market Square.  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 31, 2019, 11:47:50 am
does anyone know what joe bunney is up to?

or if anyone has had a bid rejected for marquis?

cant find any posts on here about either subject.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: barton cobbler on January 31, 2019, 11:51:49 am
I think Joe Bunney's move is classed as an "Out". It's mentioned on the BBC transfers page as "Northampton to Rochdale"


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 11:53:06 am
Anyone with an ounce of sense could see we should have signed Marquis, it was an absolute no brainer! He was already something of a club legend in my book, scoring the most important Sixfields goal in history during his first spell and then going on to help us win the league as part of the best team we've had in a generation.

He was young - perhaps still slightly raw when compared to Rico - but already more than good enough to be playing every week and was only ever going to get better. He also made it public that he was desperate to sign for us and was available for nothing!

We literally couldn't lose by signing him, but we ended up with an ageing journeyman in Alex Revell instead and the rest is history.

The single most catastrophic non-transfer in modern NTFC history.

I wouldn't say so - yes he chased & worked hard whilst here, but no one could see he was going to be a 20 goal a season striker in lg2 let alone lg1 - he hardly set the world alight whilst here. Hindsight as I say is a wonderful thing!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 12:11:54 pm
The best thing now would probably be not to sign someone. It would feel a bit desperate and we would probably pay over the top. The money can be better spent.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 12:13:03 pm
Loved Marquis the first time, even more so the second time and HE wanted to join us...

Never thought he'd be as prolific as he has been but his workrate & nuisance value was much appreciated by many fans...

Proudly part of the #signjohn campaign too  :'(

Nevermind, we go again!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vince Planner on January 31, 2019, 12:15:06 pm
I wouldn't say so - yes he chased & worked hard whilst here, but no one could see he was going to be a 20 goal a season striker in lg2 let alone lg1 - he hardly set the world alight whilst here. Hindsight as I say is a wonderful thing!
Lots of us saw it. You didnít.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:17:17 pm
I must admit I wasn't so keen on signing Marquis, however I did want to sign James Collins while many thought he wasn't L1 standard, so theyve been proved wrong. Opinions eh


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:17:56 pm
Lots of us saw it. You didnít.

So you honestly thought he'd go on to be a million pound player scoring 20+ goals a season in lg1 ?????

Pull the other one!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vince Planner on January 31, 2019, 12:19:04 pm
So you honestly thought he'd go on to be a million pound player scoring 20+ goals a season in lg1 ?????

Pull the other one!!!


Yes I can honestly say that.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 31, 2019, 12:19:26 pm
Bizarre that people seem to spend so much time beating themselves & the club up over decisions taken nearly 3 years ago.

My understanding of the situation is that even if CW had remained as manager, Marquis & Collins would not necessarily have been signed permanently as at the time neither had any serious credentials as league 1 goal scorers.

Clearly the subsequent signings by Page did not fit the bill either but what's gone is gone.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 31, 2019, 12:22:39 pm
Point is, he was keen to stay. We missed out then, but it was his second loan to us. Thought he showed enough on his first loan to get signed up. Think there are few who would agree that we missed out. I wish him all the best because of his efforts when playing for us.

I believe it was reported that Marquis wanted to stay but thought he went and signed for DR prior to Page's appointment.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:23:37 pm
Yes I can honestly say that.

Can you tell me the lottery number then please???


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:24:28 pm
I believe it was reported that Marquis wanted to stay but thought he went and signed for DR prior to Page's appointment.



You are correct evers - He signed for Sonny before Page was appointed from what I remember 


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 31, 2019, 12:26:58 pm
Bizarre that people seem to spend so much time beating themselves & the club up over decisions taken nearly 3 years ago.

My understanding of the situation is that even if CW had remained as manager, Marquis & Collins would not necessarily have been signed permanently as at the time neither had any serious credentials as league 1 goal scorers.

Clearly the subsequent signings by Page did not fit the bill either but what's gone is gone.

+

So many Hindsight Warriors ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vince Planner on January 31, 2019, 12:27:57 pm
Can you tell me the lottery number then please???

You think the two are the same?


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 31, 2019, 12:28:15 pm
I believe it was reported that Marquis wanted to stay but thought he went and signed for DR prior to Page's appointment.



Marquis signed for Donny mid-June, Page was appointed mid-May. It seems we signed Revell the day after Marquis signed for Donny.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:37:45 pm
You think the two are the same?

No far off TBH - He scored 5 goals in 54 games for Millwall!!!! - 1 in 10!

Yes he worked hard, chased lost causes - but IMO never looked a natural goal scorer in fact missing a far few chances Sammy would be proud of. Yes the raw ingredients were there but there wasn't anything to suggest he'd go on to be a 20 goal a season forward in lg1 at all. As others have said, at the time if you had to choose between him and Collins I'd have taken Collins every time.

So what are the lottery numbers going be then? ;0)



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: MCHammer on January 31, 2019, 12:38:50 pm
Don't think I've ever felt so desperate for a signing on deadline day. Don't care who it isn't just sign someone so we can end this Marquis debate  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: EssTeeFree on January 31, 2019, 12:41:16 pm
It is also possible that playing in League One that season might have been too early for Marquis, especially playing in a bottom half side.

Sometimes momentum is everything, a full season in an attacking team challenging towards the top of League Two might have given Marquis the kick-start his career needed. No one really knows.

We should really move on now though


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 12:46:26 pm
Don't think I've ever felt so desperate for a signing on deadline day. Don't care who it isn't just sign someone so we can end this Marquis debate  ;D

We need more than the 1!!!!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Vince Planner on January 31, 2019, 12:51:13 pm
No far off TBH - He scored 5 goals in 54 games for Millwall!!!! - 1 in 10!

Yes he worked hard, chased lost causes - but IMO never looked a natural goal scorer in fact missing a far few chances Sammy would be proud of. Yes the raw ingredients were there but there wasn't anything to suggest he'd go on to be a 20 goal a season forward in lg1 at all. As others have said, at the time if you had to choose between him and Collins I'd have taken Collins every time.

So what are the lottery numbers going be then? ;0)



ďNot far offĒ 😀
Keep buying a ticket.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 31, 2019, 12:56:56 pm
As the minutes tick by , the more dismal it becomes .
We havenít got enough in this squad to finish strongly .
A series of injuries could see us plummet further .
Itís no time to put your trust in 4/5 youngsters in the same team line up .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 13:01:09 pm
I see Kristian Dennis joining Grimsby on loan...

Not set the world alight at Notts County but standout for Chesterfield in their relegation season...

He'd do us!

If we get anyone at all it will probably be the just released Chris Dagnall!!!

We need a leader and some experience in our very youthful squad...

Woeful window...so far


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 13:03:30 pm
As the minutes tick by , the more dismal it becomes .
We havenít got enough in this squad to finish strongly .
A series of injuries could see us plummet further .
Itís no time to put your trust in 4/5 youngsters in the same team line up .
That's exactly what DA was about to do before getting the push. it is worrying. JJ has only just resumed training. Foley is nowhere near. One or two injuries now would make it very difficult - or more difficult.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2019, 13:04:54 pm
The thing that I'm most pissed off about, is that we appointed Curle in the first week of October. He has had 3 full months to assess what players he wants to bring in to improve the squad when the window opened. We are now on the final day of the window, and without doubt, any signings made today are panic signings. The lack of planning has been a shambles.

I dearly hope to be wrong, but seriously think that this could cost us our place in the football league.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: BedsCobb on January 31, 2019, 13:06:06 pm
I wouldn't say so - yes he chased & worked hard whilst here, but no one could see he was going to be a 20 goal a season striker in lg2 let alone lg1 - he hardly set the world alight whilst here. Hindsight as I say is a wonderful thing!
Those who saw his performance against us when playing on loan at Cheltenham were left in no doubt as to his ability.
Everyone was happy we were lucky enough to re sign him on loan.
Playing in team with Ricky Holmes hogging the limelight somewhat kept Collins and Marquis In the background.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shadowstorm on January 31, 2019, 13:33:30 pm
It's all very well talking about player we let go 2.5 seasons ago but it the now we should be considering. This window is baffling me. We have watched talent and quality leave 3 young loanees come in with little or no first team experience. We hear KC talk about going on a journey and building the right foundations and ambition. That all well and good but what worrying me is we seem to be going backwards with the squad. Curle, West and Tracey have had long enough to evaluate the sqaud and what needs to come in and get it seem he doesn't, this is not acceptable. I hope and pray we shall be proved wrong with some quality late moves in...my gut say not.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on January 31, 2019, 13:48:18 pm
Chris Dagnall anyone?

Just been released by Bury to sign for another club, excellent record for Crewe the year before.



Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 31, 2019, 13:49:34 pm
Just because a player succeeds elsewhere doesnít mean they would have had the same success had they stayed at the club. Look at someone like Ian Henderson, failed here and at another couple of clubs before becoming a goal machine at Roachdale, Holmes would probably never been the player he was here had he stayed at Portsmouth.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 31, 2019, 13:51:24 pm
Chris Dagnall anyone?

Just been released by Bury to sign for another club, excellent record for Crewe the year before.



Only if Andy Williams is to leave.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: threeinabed on January 31, 2019, 13:55:03 pm
It's all very well talking about player we let go 2.5 seasons ago but it the now we should be considering. This window is baffling me. We have watched talent and quality leave 3 young loanees come in with little or no first team experience. We hear KC talk about honing on a journey and building the right foundations and ambition. That all well and good but what sorting me is we seem to be going backwards with the squad. Curle, West and Tracey have had long enough to evaluate the sqaud and what needs to come in and get it seem he doesn't, this is not acceptable. I hope and pray we shall be proved wrong with some quality late moves in...my gut say not.

january is not the time for long term planning............that will be done through the summer

this is about cutting costs and balancing the squad

and, fingers crossed, not being weak and inexperienced enough to go down!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 31, 2019, 13:57:22 pm
january is not the time for long term planning............that will be done through the summer

this is about cutting costs and balancing the squad

and, fingers crossed, not being weak and inexperienced enough to go down!


Agreed today so long as we keep Pierre and Turnbull I will be happy. Two players of a good age and the ability to take us to the next level.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 31, 2019, 13:59:47 pm
That's exactly what DA was about to do before getting the push. it is worrying. JJ has only just resumed training. Foley is nowhere near. One or two injuries now would make it very difficult - or more difficult.
Exactly .
When the team is low on confidence and the pressure is on , you need experience .
Even people in the youth set up donít think itís right to expose so many youngsters together at this time - it will do them more damage than good .
I will accept Ivan Toney was an exception to that but he was not playing alongside three or four others with no league experience .
If Curle plays all the youngsters , he is throwing them and the club under a bus .


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 14:06:24 pm
Casey on Twitter has said lots going on but nothing confirmed...yet!

BTW, Mathius, how far away is Foley as KC never updates us on injuries?!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Shoemaker on January 31, 2019, 14:14:11 pm
Chris Dagnall anyone?

Just been released by Bury to sign for another club, excellent record for Crewe the year before.


That crap signing has ntfc written all over it
Free transfer veteran journeyman who has scored twice for bury
If thatís the best the current board can afford it says it all
No planning for the future
I hope to god thatís not our new striker weíve waited all month for.

I decided not to sit on the fence there ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: JollyCobbler on January 31, 2019, 14:28:24 pm
+

So many Hindsight Warriors ::)

Yep. Just like those who couldn't see the wood on the trees fronting Cardoza's house, eh, Evers? ::)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Onetouch on January 31, 2019, 14:37:43 pm
Casey on Twitter has said lots going on but nothing confirmed...yet!

BTW, Mathius, how far away is Foley as KC never updates us on injuries?!

There was a video on Youtube today, confirming Foley, JJot & Bowditch where looking likely to feature on Saturday - Defo 2 of them will


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 31, 2019, 14:44:01 pm
Yep. Just like those who couldn't see the wood on the trees fronting Cardoza's house, eh, Evers? ::)

You are a bit of a troll.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: just.reading on January 31, 2019, 14:48:38 pm
Peter O'Rourke (Cobblers fan isn't he?) confirms we've had a bid turned down for Coulthirst. We do love an ex Posh player don't we

https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1090378216567697408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1090378216567697408&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.northamptonchron.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Fcobblers%2Ftransfer-deadline-day-live-blog-will-the-cobblers-do-some-late-deals-1-8791370


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: everbrite on January 31, 2019, 14:49:30 pm
The thing that I'm most pissed off about, is that we appointed Curle in the first week of October. He has had 3 full months to assess what players he wants to bring in to improve the squad when the window opened. We are now on the final day of the window, and without doubt, any signings made today are panic signings. The lack of planning has been a shambles.

I dearly hope to be wrong, but seriously think that this could cost us our place in the football league.

Bowen used to sign players at the very last moment - sometimes worked too.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: tcobb on January 31, 2019, 14:51:52 pm
Last moment Evers ? Bowen had all season to sign players.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 14:53:21 pm
Exactly .
When the team is low on confidence and the pressure is on , you need experience .
Even people in the youth set up donít think itís right to expose so many youngsters together at this time - it will do them more damage than good .
I will accept Ivan Toney was an exception to that but he was not playing alongside three or four others with no league experience .
If Curle plays all the youngsters , he is throwing them and the club under a bus .
It shouldn't be too many [youngsters] as I've heard he doesn't rate some of the young players the club think highly of.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 31, 2019, 14:54:18 pm
There was a video on Youtube today, confirming Foley, JJot & Bowditch where looking likely to feature on Saturday - Defo 2 of them will
I know which two Iíd want (JJOT & Foley)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: guest3103 on January 31, 2019, 15:00:04 pm
+

So many Hindsight Warriors ::)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MZ-BQbyUBCg/maxresdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on January 31, 2019, 15:02:28 pm
BBC Radio Northampton, 'Cobblers Show', 6pm today might be interesting!


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: memyhead on January 31, 2019, 15:04:30 pm
Ash Taylor to Posh according to twitter rumour...

Fingers crossed, we can just replace him with Clarence!  ;D


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 15:05:29 pm
I know which two Iíd want (JJOT & Foley)
Foley not even training. JJOT only resumed this week. Don't know about Bowditch but he hardly makes a difference.


Title: Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs
Post by: Mathius on January 31, 2019, 15:07:23 pm