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Title: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 29, 2019, 11:52:30 am
Play like we did against MK, I reckon we win this 2-0. Due a good season, lets hope we get off to a good start!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: threeinabed on July 29, 2019, 13:00:51 pm
traditional slow starters................score early, concede late.

1-1 draw


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 29, 2019, 14:05:07 pm
traditional slow starters................score early, concede late.

1-1 draw

I think its important we start fast. I don't think we can all stand another **** season. Hope I don't hear from the manager or players, the excuse, we're a new group and it will take time to gel


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 29, 2019, 17:31:25 pm
I think its important we start fast. I don't think we can all stand another **** season. Hope I don't hear from the manager or players, the excuse, we're a new group and it will take time to gel

We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast, I expect a mixed bag of results in the first 10 games.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: bungle on July 29, 2019, 17:45:48 pm
We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast

I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 






Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: cobblerwatch on July 29, 2019, 19:20:35 pm
We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast, I expect a mixed bag of results in the first 10 games.

Not sure I agree - the not ďgellingĒ excuse is often used for a poor start that tends to continue throughout the season - plenty of examples of brand new squads firing on all cylinders from the off - good example was Shrewsbury two seasons ago.

Of course we have to manage expectations and there will be bumps on the road but anything less than maintaining a top 7 position from the off (2 or 3 games in) will be a disappointment for me.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: barton cobbler on July 29, 2019, 20:25:19 pm
Not sure I agree - the not ďgellingĒ excuse is often used for a poor start that tends to continue throughout the season - plenty of examples of brand new squads firing on all cylinders from the off - good example was Shrewsbury two seasons ago.

Of course we have to manage expectations and there will be bumps on the road but anything less than maintaining a top 7 position from the off (2 or 3 games in) will be a disappointment for me.
Most League 2 clubs have big changes in their squads every year, so surely, its a problem for all the clubs, but only the ones that lose use it !!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on July 29, 2019, 21:58:51 pm
I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 



Hurrah agree with you  :)






Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 29, 2019, 22:00:33 pm
And again, I hope Iím wrong but bet it gets used! You also have to bear in mind that now the old bunch have been moved out heíll have to lay down foundations and a new platform


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 30, 2019, 08:28:18 am
I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 





Itís very unlikely he will play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the centre because the latter two are both left footed . Distribution from the back would be in balanced if this was the case .
I am sure he will play three at the back at home .


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Irchy cob on July 30, 2019, 08:32:57 am
He made a bit of a rod for his own back in going with the system he did against mk (and it working so well) - logic would dictate that we will go with the same formation and personnel against Walsall but as we know KC is a big 5-3-2 fan and Iím sure heís looking at a way to shoehorn Wharton in.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: bungle on July 30, 2019, 08:57:19 am
Itís very unlikely he will play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the centre because the latter two are both left footed . Distribution from the back would be in balanced if this was the case .
I am sure he will play three at the back at home .

Disappointing if true (but I suspect you are right).

As Itchy says, the logical thing to do is to stick with 4-2-3-1, but logic doesn't always come into it with Keith.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 30, 2019, 09:16:54 am
                      Cornell

            Goode Wharton Turnull

Hall-Johnson                          Martin

          Adams McCormack Lines

                        Warburton
              Smith

I think we will start like this against Walsall. Still hoping for the 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1 but Wharton would be a waste of a loan signing on decent money if this was the case. We could always go 5-4-1 and rely on one of the midfield playing off of Smith.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 30, 2019, 10:13:11 am
I think , true to form he will ignore how well we played against MK and change it to :
 
                        Cornell
          Goode.  Wharton.  Turnbull
 Adams                                        Martin
                   McCormack
            Warburton.         Lines
                  Smith.   Hoskins

Personally , I would rather have Bunney in for Martin and Williams in for Hoskins .


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on July 30, 2019, 11:03:51 am
He made a bit of a rod for his own back in going with the system he did against mk (and it working so well) - logic would dictate that we will go with the same formation and personnel against Walsall but as we know KC is a big 5-3-2 fan and Iím sure heís looking at a way to shoehorn Wharton in.

So after one game against a poor MK performance;  4-3-2-1 is the way forward and we all grasp the simple logic theme ::).  He may well play 3 at the back and the side(s) picked by either Bootsí or Rauldí may well be nearer the mark. Would prefer Hoskins up with Smith thoí. Personally if he uses the same formation as against MK then would use Wharton as a sub for McC. Certainly would only give McC 60 mins based on his perceived fitness levels.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 30, 2019, 12:03:00 pm
Disappointing if true (but I suspect you are right).

As Itchy says, the logical thing to do is to stick with 4-2-3-1, but logic doesn't always come into it with Keith.
;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on July 30, 2019, 12:17:51 pm
After a couple of losses the world is crashing down and Keith is the devil. Laughable.

After one win Keith has found the magic formula. Laughable.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Irchy cob on July 30, 2019, 12:31:26 pm
What I meant was that if we go 5-3-2 and draw/lose/are disjointed then the likelihood is that heís going to get bombarded by people asking why he changed the system from the mk dons game (and I appreciate that it was only a friendly but this is what will happen).


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 30, 2019, 13:36:36 pm
Iím not too fussed which system he employs, just find a winning one and stick with it as much as possible.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on July 30, 2019, 19:11:19 pm
What I meant was that if we go 5-3-2 and draw/lose/are disjointed then the likelihood is that heís going to get bombarded by people asking why he changed the system from the mk dons game (and I appreciate that it was only a friendly but this is what will happen).

I think this makes sense.

I like you Irchy.

Alex.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: TownOwl on July 30, 2019, 19:23:25 pm
As we know, relegation hang overs are horrid and hard to brush off. We have fresh enthusiasm - Walsall less so. Think we'll chalk up a win and get off to a flyer.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on July 31, 2019, 08:25:17 am
Ffs! Cats are getting ripped apart by mad dogs on the redevelopment thread!
Iím really looking forward to the start of the season.... LETíS TALK FOOTBALL ⚽️


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Manwork04 on July 31, 2019, 08:33:18 am
Ffs! Cats are getting ripped apart by mad dogs on the redevelopment thread!
Iím really looking forward to the start of the season.... LETíS TALK FOOTBALL ⚽️
;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Poggy on July 31, 2019, 09:05:28 am
Almost impossible to predict what KC will start with. I doubt even he knows sometimes.

My preference would be for:

                            Arnold

                Wharton - Goode - Turnbull

   S.McWilliams - Lines - McCormack - Bunney
 
               Adams              Warburton

                             Smith


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 31, 2019, 09:54:57 am
Ffs! Cats are getting ripped apart by mad dogs on the redevelopment thread!
Iím really looking forward to the start of the season.... LETíS TALK FOOTBALL ⚽️

 ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: barton cobbler on July 31, 2019, 12:25:15 pm
Nicholas Kinseley from Rayleigh, Essex refereeing this one. Sent off Matt Crookes when he reffed our game at Southend a couple of years ago


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 31, 2019, 13:53:55 pm
Oh god, I remember that. Kicked the ball back for a free-kick and got a second yellow.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: threeinabed on July 31, 2019, 15:55:49 pm
Almost impossible to predict what KC will start with. I doubt even he knows sometimes.

My preference would be for:

                            Arnold

                Wharton - Goode - Turnbull

   S.McWilliams - Lines - McCormack - Bunney
 
               Adams              Warburton

                             Smith

luckily you arent our manager then


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on July 31, 2019, 16:02:41 pm
Ffs! Cats are getting ripped apart by mad dogs on the redevelopment thread!
Iím really looking forward to the start of the season.... LETíS TALK FOOTBALL ⚽️
;D ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 31, 2019, 16:07:01 pm
Almost impossible to predict what KC will start with. I doubt even he knows sometimes.

My preference would be for:

                            Arnold

                Wharton - Goode - Turnbull

   S.McWilliams - Lines - McCormack - Bunney
 
               Adams              Warburton

                             Smith

Surely got to be a back 4


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Manwork04 on July 31, 2019, 18:18:31 pm
Walsall have sold all their 1400 allocation could be 7000 crowd?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 31, 2019, 18:44:07 pm
Walsall have sold all their 1400 allocation could be 7000 crowd?

Does that mean the one on the hill will be forced inside as it will be classed as a "big game"?  ;D

On a serious note, would be great to have a bumper crowd. Especially if we all get behind the team from the off.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BedsCobb on July 31, 2019, 18:53:18 pm
Does that mean the one on the hill will be forced inside as it will be classed as a "big game"?  ;D

On a serious note, would be great to have a bumper crowd. Especially if we all get behind the team from the off.
Yes this is one I need to see from the good seats.
Would be a great time to get our first win to start some early momentum ..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 31, 2019, 20:25:11 pm
Yes this is one I need to see from the good seats.
Would be a great time to get our first win to start some early momentum ..
Protest over all ready? Thought you would have stuck to your guns.



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 31, 2019, 20:37:02 pm
Surely got to be a back 4
I think it will be a back 3 .
Most of the pre season games have been with a three and the players we have suit it .
It gives us more options


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 31, 2019, 21:00:31 pm
I think it will be a back 3 .
Most of the pre season games have been with a three and the players we have suit it .
It gives us more options

While I agree it probably will be a back 3 I think this is more down to KCís stubbornness than any confidence in it being successful. We seem to get picked to pieces playing it and create very little as opposed to the mk game where the players seemed far more comfortable with the formations resulting in a performance a million miles better than those with a back 5.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on July 31, 2019, 22:35:42 pm
Walsall have sold all their 1400 allocation could be 7000 crowd?

Not sure with holidays and that.. But won't be far off it I reckon.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: corno_ntfc on July 31, 2019, 22:53:02 pm
Not sure with holidays and that.. But won't be far off it I reckon.

1405 sold.  20 left.
https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2019/july/northampton-a-tickets-now-on-sale/


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 31, 2019, 23:17:45 pm
While I agree it probably will be a back 3 I think this is more down to KCís stubbornness than any confidence in it being successful. We seem to get picked to pieces playing it and create very little as opposed to the mk game where the players seemed far more comfortable with the formations resulting in a performance a million miles better than those with a back 5.
How strong were MK that day ?
How many other times have we played everyone in their rightful positions ?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 01, 2019, 04:16:08 am
0-1
Bunney OG 90..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: ajp on August 01, 2019, 07:41:10 am
Walsall have sold all their 1400 allocation could be 7000 crowd?

5860 (4500 ish home fans)


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on August 01, 2019, 12:09:50 pm
Prediction. Score early, concede late, 1-1 finish similar to opener against Fleetwood three years ago in our first game back in league 1. Attendance 6,020.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2019, 12:26:57 pm
Prediction. Score early, concede late, 1-1 finish similar to opener against Fleetwood three years ago in our first game back in league 1. Attendance 6,020.

2-1 us 2-0 by HT! Walsall score in last 5 mins but have two sent off in stormy end to the game! I get free tkt to the game!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: west stand oap on August 01, 2019, 12:34:43 pm
Strange that Walsall have sold all 1450 tickets as they brought less than 400 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: threeinabed on August 01, 2019, 12:35:16 pm
Prediction. Score early, concede late, 1-1 finish similar to opener against Fleetwood three years ago in our first game back in league 1. Attendance 6,020.

copycat


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Saddler on August 01, 2019, 18:21:23 pm
Strange that Walsall have sold all 1450 tickets as they brought less than 400 2 years ago.

Walsall fan here, just wanted to wish you all good luck for the forthcoming season, hopefully both teams get promoted this year.  Our club has been taken over this week so a lot of the fans who were staying away due the way the previous owner ran the club are returning.  Should be exciting times as the new owner has promised to invest more money into the team and we plan to buy back our ground :)


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on August 01, 2019, 19:18:04 pm
Good luck with that. But beware of owners promising the earth.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: SadOldGit on August 02, 2019, 08:48:04 am
Be careful with any land transactions.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BedsCobb on August 02, 2019, 10:07:45 am
Be careful with any land transactions.
Fortunately for Walsall, the new owners are local and supporters of the club, so emphasis will be on the football club and what it needs.
Not outsiders who use the club to facilitate their lust for getting rich on land, land and more land.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 02, 2019, 10:25:14 am
Fortunately for Walsall, the new owners are local and supporters of the club, so emphasis will be on the football club and what it needs.
Not outsiders who use the club to facilitate their lust for getting rich on land, land and more land.

How do you have the nuts to still post on here when you've been found out?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BedsCobb on August 02, 2019, 10:54:21 am
How do you have the nuts to still post on here when you've been found out?
'Found out'  as a supporter Northampton town who is not happy with owners whose ambitions for our club is next to zero. Guilty as charged. 😘
Cobblers to win tomorrow building a good foundation for a genuine challenge on the top 7.
Lines, Smith, McCormack  and Adams all good signings that give us the experience we will need.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: pattcobb on August 02, 2019, 13:08:24 pm
'Found out'  as a supporter Northampton town who is not happy with owners whose ambitions for our club is next to zero. Guilty as charged. 😘
Cobblers to win tomorrow building a good foundation for a genuine challenge on the top 7.
Lines, Smith, McCormack  and Adams all good signings that give us the experience we will need.
Mods, can we have a twitter style blocking option? He's now appearing on other threads other than the RedeV so I cannot ignore him by not reading that thread anymore  :(


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Manwork04 on August 02, 2019, 13:10:53 pm
Mods, can we have a twitter style blocking option? He's now appearing on other threads other than the RedeV so I cannot ignore him by not reading that thread anymore  :(
Made me chuckle  ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Coolcat on August 02, 2019, 14:16:48 pm
Yeah but facilitate is a great word, gotta admit!
Nearly as well chosen as felicitous!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BedsCobb on August 02, 2019, 16:46:54 pm
Mods, can we have a twitter style blocking option? He's now appearing on other threads other than the RedeV so I cannot ignore him by not reading that thread anymore  :(
My replies were in context to the thread..
It's not my fault Walsall got new owners.. who we happen to play tomorrow!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on August 02, 2019, 18:19:12 pm
No problem everyone, I have just checked the league table - Walsall are bottom!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 02, 2019, 18:22:24 pm
No problem everyone, I have just checked the league table - Walsall are bottom!

Easy win then!
 ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on August 02, 2019, 18:23:44 pm
Yup, good thing Yoevil arenít in league 2 though


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: SadOldGit on August 02, 2019, 19:51:18 pm
Where is Yo'vil?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on August 02, 2019, 21:10:22 pm
No problem everyone, I have just checked the league table - Walsall are bottom!

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 02, 2019, 23:03:41 pm
Easy win then!
 ;D
Statistically there are easier games to come.

3-1, just canít decide who to?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 03, 2019, 08:56:31 am
Statistically there are easier games to come.
;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Ron Obvious on August 03, 2019, 10:03:21 am
I have heard that Jeema has a new pair of boots. It will be interesting to see if he gives them a run out today.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on August 03, 2019, 10:17:29 am
So glad footy is back, cannot wait for all the optimism to turn into doom and gloom once this afternoon is over!  ;D

Draw or a win would be great against a strong team, guessing a 5-3-2 as it is what the Mysterious One likes and assembled this squad for.

Smith to open his account from an Adams cross, sun will be shining and my bald head will get burnt.

Roll on 3pm!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on August 03, 2019, 12:05:27 pm
Iím glad Ron is back, Iíve been worried sick


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 14:10:11 pm
Turnbull on the bench  >:(


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 14:40:22 pm
Line ups

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBDHJvWXsAAEjEQ?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 03, 2019, 14:44:56 pm
Cornell wins the battle for the number 1 spot....

Cornell

Hall-Johnson, Goode, Wharton, Martin

Hoskins, McCormack, Lines, Adams

Warburton

Smith

Subs: Arnold, Turnbull, Watson, Williams, Pollock, McWilliams, Roberts.


Missing out from the matchday 18 are..... Hughes, Bunney, Jay Williams, C McWilliams, Newell, Oliver, Morais, Waters, Lashley


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 14:52:30 pm
Not sure whats going on with Mo. He's a handy sub..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:04:47 pm
Hello everyone.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:08:25 pm
Its all Walsall at the moment..Im getting a very bad feeling here..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:09:53 pm
Its all Walsall at the moment..Im getting a very bad feeling here..
I'm not


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:13:56 pm
Last 5 mins its been all us..I'm getting a very god feeling here..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:15:34 pm
Curle out!!!!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:16:07 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: WasRambo on August 03, 2019, 15:18:21 pm
Standard


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:24:11 pm
Hello Was


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:33:11 pm
Looks like we're missing cj and defender...partimers


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 15:35:18 pm
Morning all, weíre a better side than last year and thatís a fact.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:36:31 pm
Looks like we're missing cj and defender...partimers
I'm worried sick about both of them!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:37:38 pm
Morning all, weíre a better side than last year and thatís a fact.
Well played Melbourne!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 15:40:09 pm
I'm worried sick about both of them!
I'm here Baldy. I've been looking for Defender but there's no sign of him anywhere.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 15:42:05 pm
Thank the Lord, cj is safe! The concern over defender continues though. Was is worried sick!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:47:55 pm
0-1 HT


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 15:53:48 pm
Well played Melbourne!
Melly our man on the spot!!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 15:54:41 pm
Bit of cheer, our mate Warnerís out in the cricket. The colonials are 13-1 and still trail by 77. Iím like old grandad on Only Fools, 2 tellys, brilliant. Although I have lost a bit of interest in the Test since kick off.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 15:56:13 pm
Back to the football, weíre going to win this. Trust me Iím a doctor.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on August 03, 2019, 15:59:46 pm
Disappointed to be 1-0 down, especially as they donít have much height at corners.

Missed a hatful of chances as per usual, been better when we have kept the ball on the floor.

Passing has been wayward though, McCormack looks of the pace at the moment.

Still in it but need to score next. If these are one of the promotion favourites, we have nothing to be scared of this season.

Hopefully a more productive second half on the goals front!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 16:01:06 pm
Melly our man on the spot!!
He's the greatest!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 16:05:11 pm
He's the greatest!
Controversial


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:06:33 pm
Need to get Willo on and not in the 90 min either.  He's a goal machine


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 16:12:36 pm
Is it me or is the East Stand starting to look like it has an appealing character?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 16:15:13 pm
Is it me or is the East Stand starting to look like it has an appealing character?
It's you.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 16:17:17 pm
Need to get Willo on and not in the 90 min either.  He's a goal machine
Get the Willomeister on. We can still win this.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:17:38 pm
Atd 6,260


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:18:54 pm
The McCormeister booked


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 16:20:03 pm
Bit of cheer, our mate Warnerís out in the cricket. The colonials are 13-1 and still trail by 77. Iím like old grandad on Only Fools, 2 tellys, brilliant. Although I have lost a bit of interest in the Test since kick off.
Another Aussie gone. ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:20:29 pm
McCormeister off McWillo on


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 16:21:02 pm
Curle puts a new Mc on.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 16:22:28 pm
McCormeister off McWillo on
Well Doc, got your wish. Correct Baldo, the master carpenter Bancrofts gone.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:23:24 pm
Willo on for Warbo


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 16:26:41 pm
Willo on for Warbo
Curle using his loaf?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:34:56 pm
The Smithmeister couldn't hit a barn door..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:38:19 pm
Imagine if we had Holmes still playing.

We'd have Holmes and Watson

Elementary my dear Baldy..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Baldy on August 03, 2019, 16:42:15 pm
Imagine if we had Holmes still playing.

We'd have Holmes and Watson

Elementary my dear Baldy..
You're bang on it today doctor, bang on it.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:45:00 pm
Their keeper is having a blinder..made at least 3 top saves


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 16:47:48 pm
Imagine if we had Holmes still playing.

We'd have Holmes and Watson

Elementary my dear Baldy..
presumably trying to solve the mystery as to why we are not in front. Itís an absolute travesty!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:50:00 pm
7 mins added..there's still hope


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 03, 2019, 16:55:11 pm
0-1 FT

Doomed


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 16:57:47 pm
Should have won, good night all. See you for the inquest in the morning.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 03, 2019, 16:58:37 pm
Need to get Willo on and not in the 90 min either.  He's a goal machine
Or maybe not


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: guest2677 on August 03, 2019, 16:59:53 pm
I blame Defender.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: phil on August 03, 2019, 17:00:45 pm
Same old, same old, here we go again.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Manwork04 on August 03, 2019, 17:44:00 pm
Predictable boring slow,when you donít have your two best players on the pitch in Turnbull and Moaris you get what you deserve Curle gone by Christmas


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on August 03, 2019, 18:02:56 pm
The finishing line up was better than the starting line up.

We obviously need pace up front.
At best Hoskins only converts one in twelve chances, not acceptable!

Not a bad start, as the good players were an improvement on last season.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on August 03, 2019, 18:33:21 pm
Thought we were good enough for a point today, as per usual we didn't take our chances.

Defence - Cornell could do nothing with the goal and only had to make two other saves. Goode was outstanding, and Wharton alongside him grew into the game and could prove to be a decent signing. Martin was solid if uninspiring. Hall-Johnson looked brilliant at times, then ghastly at other so the jury is still out there. McWilliams was okay at RB, but I prefer him in the centre and we ticked along better when he replaced McCormack for me.

Midfield - I thought we would be a lot better than this. McCormack is obviously not fit (his hammy was taped up to high heaven under his shorts before he went down), but talented and the risk didn't pay off for me. Lines flattered to deceive for most of the game. Adams looked as good as I remember, we just didn't get him the ball often enough. Poor old Sammy is going to get a lot of hate his way, he is NOT a winger and we need to either play Morias there or buy one. Warburton looked decent for someone who has never played at this level, some nice touches but sometimes caught dallying on the ball. Watson didn't really have time to catch the eye.

Up Top - Smith has a good touch, but we need to give him someone to aim at if we are hoofing it. Should have done better with a couple of chances although there keeper robbed him of a goal with a blinding save. Willo offered very little when he came on. Had little option on the bench to change the game, Morias has to be in the squad for me, wether Curlio likes him or not.

Summary - Played better when we kept the ball on the floor or played chest level passes into Smith. Was horrible to look at when we put Willo on and went full hoofball. Defensively not too bad, midfield need to move the ball quicker or we will get bored watching them. More positives than negatives for me, let's see how the next couple of games go.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 03, 2019, 18:59:02 pm
Chris Lines, Reece Right Back, not good enough.

Sam Hoskins **** awful.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: cobbler151 on August 03, 2019, 18:59:44 pm
Predictable boring slow,when you donít have your two best players on the pitch in Turnbull and Moaris you get what you deserve Curle gone by Christmas

+1


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Irchy cob on August 03, 2019, 19:12:50 pm
The diamond in midfield blatantly didnít work and I feel that Clarke got one over on Curle with a extra man in there - lines was too high and McCormack got a bit exposed at times, they also had more legs/youth in there. It didnít help that we started slowly and gave them the initiative and when the goal went in it knocked us at first but then after about 25 minutes it wasnít too bad for the rest of the half. I thought smith did alright given that he was literally having his shirt ripped off, the issue was Warburton and Hoskins didnít work. Adams looked incredibly frustrated - he put some good crosses in but by the end he was pulling his hair out.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 03, 2019, 19:36:20 pm
Which absolute cretin suggested Turnbull is our best player. **** hell learn how to spot a player.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on August 03, 2019, 19:39:16 pm
Chris Lines, Reece Right Back, not good enough.

Sam Hoskins **** awful.
Our right back was properly useless! He must have been bought as cover not first choice


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 03, 2019, 19:45:27 pm
Our right back was properly useless! He must have been bought as cover not first choice

We was atrocious.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2019, 19:46:58 pm
Chris Lines, Reece Right Back, not good enough.

Sam Hoskins **** awful.

Be surprised if anyone manages to disagree with this. Our three worst performers definitely.

Lines was a big disappointment today for me and never got into the game. Iím still very confident that he will be a big player for us this season, but a debut to forget. I guess he was against his former manager who probably knew exactly how to nullify him.

I think the lack of pace is a huge concern and additions are still needed before the end of this month. Apart from Adams, we had zero creativity.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 03, 2019, 19:53:54 pm
Zonal marking will kill us .
We looked awful in pre season defending corners and it cost us the game today .
Furthermore , if Hoskins is in our best eleven we have issues .


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Irchy cob on August 03, 2019, 20:00:01 pm
Zonal marking will kill us .
We looked awful in pre season defending corners and it cost us the game today .
Furthermore , if Hoskins is in our best eleven we have issues .


I tend to agree on both but I canít see Curle changing the zonal marking - I think Hoskins will be in and out.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Macc Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 20:03:11 pm
Same old, same old, here we go again.

Sums it up perfectly !

It was crying out for somebody like Morias to come on, but we all know where he was.










Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: cobblerwatch on August 03, 2019, 20:14:36 pm
Of course opinions will differ but my take was absolute lack of quality- totally reliant on one player to provide that which he did occasionally but combination of poor finishing and good goalkeeping stopped any result.

Along with KC totally ridiculous persistance to stick with zonal marking Cornell has to take a significant responsibility for the goal - ffs either stay on your line (and it would have been an easy save) or command your box - he did niether!

Very very early days but very disappointing.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: just.reading on August 03, 2019, 20:30:19 pm
The "highlight" is up. Pretty pathic Sky only offer 13 seconds for the whole match.

https://www.skysports.com/efl/championship/video/11776963/northampton-0-1-walsall


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 20:50:40 pm
Some valid points made, but the bottom line is that if we had taken our chances this would all be reading differently as a general rule. There are definitely some deficiencies and some didnít perform but we created enough to destroy Walsall at a canter. Chance after chance was ballooned over the bar. FFS just hit the target somebody at some point in our future?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2019, 22:56:43 pm
Sums it up perfectly !

It was crying out for somebody like Morias to come on, but we all know where he was.


Should have won; Walsall were dead in last 20 mins. Saved by their goalkeeper who made 3 or 4 good saves. Midfield to slow and Hoskins offers same old same old. No pace up front and we lack again a finisher! Overall not a dicouraging display but easy to see the misfits and Morais has to be an option. Sammo said we had enough chances in the last 20 mins to win and with Walsall out on their feet. Decent crowd today.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on August 03, 2019, 23:03:09 pm
Didn't see today's game, and it's too early for alarm bells but I seem to remember we lost 1-0 at home to Lincoln on the first day of last season having created a lot of chances. From what I've read that sounds a lot like today and we all know what happened at the start of last season. I'm hoping it won't happen this year, but I'm concerned that we have started another season struggling to find the back of the net.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Morleyhill on August 03, 2019, 23:50:23 pm
Reece Hall-Johnson was very poor.
Having Hoskins and Cornell as first choices is not ideal after a summer of rebuilding.
Certainly donít think itís all doom and gloom though Nicky Adams sent over sufficient quality crosses to get something from the game and better finishing or a poorer stopper than the Walsall keeper would have put a totally different spin on things.
As it stands I still think we are mid table bound a little higher than last year but short of a play off place barring any unexpected major coup before the window closes.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: AbingtonCobbler on August 04, 2019, 09:14:10 am
Why does Sam Hoskins always get picked.

I watched him in the Sheffield United game and I have never seen a player so uninterested.

He would miss an open goal from 5 yards.

Keith Curle is a clown.  He is that knowledgeable that he thought Chris Wilders league winning team was poor.

Hope this is not another seasons of underachieving.  He has no excuse after signing a whole new squad.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 04, 2019, 10:30:06 am
Didn't see today's game, and it's too early for alarm bells but I seem to remember we lost 1-0 at home to Lincoln on the first day of last season having created a lot of chances. From what I've read that sounds a lot like today and we all know what happened at the start of last season. I'm hoping it won't happen this year, but I'm concerned that we have started another season struggling to find the back of the net.

If this side had turned out against that Lincoln side, they would have tore us a new ****. Still early days, but very, very uninspiring. We could have played until midnight and still failed to score. Hoskins is taking all the flack (as is usual), but there were far worse players than him on that pitch. As for the lad at r/back: he looked like he'd have struggled at UCL level. Really poor.

ETA: And all of this against a bang average looking Walsall side.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: barton cobbler on August 04, 2019, 10:47:05 am
I think we were unlucky not to get anything out of the match, but it was a poor goal to concede, you HAVE to be able to defend set pieces in League 2.
The thing that worried me most was how one dimensional we were, get it up in the air to Smith and if that doesn't work, get it up in the air to Smith. I'm certainly not blaming Smith, he won a very good percentage of headers but we needed someone playing off him, someone quick and who knows where the goal is. If Port Vale had a scout there, all he needs to report is "Double mark Nicky Adams, then they have no creativity"
    I think its now time to play Shaun McWilliams in midfield for the next 20 matches, 2 years ago he looked a great prospect but last year he played a game in midfield, next game he was right back and then he was left out for 6 games. Give him a constant run in his best position and see if he can push on from his form 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: SadOldGit on August 04, 2019, 13:03:49 pm
Mediocre.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: random on August 04, 2019, 13:17:47 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.

A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.

It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on August 04, 2019, 13:39:49 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.
A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.
It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.
Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !
Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.
So what did you think to the game itself?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 04, 2019, 15:34:51 pm

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.

There are two different things going on there though, aren't there? You were advocating not spending money to develop youth players, as a result of which you (quite rightly) said we'd finish lower down the table.

The manager has been supported by KT/DB in getting the players he wanted this summer, or at least says he has. My prediction is based upon the way the manager has invested those funds.

Owner's provision of funds. Manager's use of those funds. Two different things. The ownership model is actually irrelevant in this debate, beyond the fact the manager would be likely to have less cash to play with in a fan-owned model.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: West Stand on August 04, 2019, 17:03:41 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.

A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.

It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.

Get a grip.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: random on August 04, 2019, 17:16:33 pm
HI BOTN, so you are happy that KT provides a manager with funds to waste on average players, with no plans to either entertain or achieve success just because he has some funds. You are happy to ignore that as a club with little future we cannot attract the right players, so just go round in circles.
There is also no plan or commitment to attract young players nor to develop and improve any players.  But you are happy we just do nothing and go through the motions.

West End sure it reads as a negative post and it is only one game but again we have failed to score in our first game of the season against a very average team. This season will be exactly the same as last and end in lower mid table whist those forward thinking clubs enjoy promotion or life in higher divisions.

Please give me one good reason why Northampton should not be a regular league 1 club or higher and anything lower is underachieving. We have a massive catchment area, we are central so a massive base of players to pick from, we are an 100 year old club with multiple generations of supporters and we have no massive Prem league club within 60 miles.



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: sxcobbler on August 04, 2019, 17:49:16 pm
Well we created enough chances to win 4 games. Swap keepers and we win 3-0.
key personnel..particularly good or bad.......

Cornell ? ...why not Arnold
Hall- Johnson.....ranks amongst the sh1ttiest debuts ever ! At fault for the goal in part
McCormack.....strapped up & nowhere near fit
Goode....played well
Hoskins....doing a typical Sammy performance!
Smith .....won every header ( but to no-one) apart from the defensive one for their goal !
Adams.....Quality , looked like he was getting exasperated with the inability to convert his superb crosses
Lines.....Anonymous, very poor, big disappointment
Williams on as sub ....did s0d all

Special mention for Zonal Marking.....Disaster !  & the midfield set up by KC , out-thought by Clarke.....
But a real smash & grab. job done on us ......mind you, we could still be playing & wouldn't have scored.
Repeat of last season's opener  v. Imps.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: The Rauldinho on August 04, 2019, 18:05:56 pm
HI BOTN, so you are happy that KT provides a manager with funds to waste on average players, with no plans to either entertain or achieve success just because he has some funds. You are happy to ignore that as a club with little future we cannot attract the right players, so just go round in circles.
There is also no plan or commitment to attract young players nor to develop and improve any players.  But you are happy we just do nothing and go through the motions.
West End sure it reads as a negative post and it is only one game but again we have failed to score in our first game of the season against a very average team. This season will be exactly the same as last and end in lower mid table whist those forward thinking clubs enjoy promotion or life in higher divisions.
Please give me one good reason why Northampton should not be a regular league 1 club or higher and anything lower is underachieving. We have a massive catchment area, we are central so a massive base of players to pick from, we are an 100 year old club with multiple generations of supporters and we have no massive Prem league club within 60 miles.
So what did you think of the game? (Take two.....)


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 04, 2019, 19:02:30 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.

A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.

It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.

Shut up you **** psychopath.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Coolcat on August 04, 2019, 19:22:38 pm
Our right back was properly useless! He must have been bought as cover not first choice
Yes, Reece Hall Johnson a shocker and just seemed way out of his depth - Conference/National league level, rather than a one off bad performance!
Yet Curle let the Birmingham City trialist go, having played in a similar role against Sheffield Utd (superior opposition to Walsall obviously) yet was quick and pushed up well...RHJ, spinning around like a dying fly for most of the game!


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 04, 2019, 19:29:24 pm
Yes, Reece Hall Johnson a shocker and just seemed way out of his depth - Conference/National league level, rather than a one off bad performance!
Yet Curle let the Birmingham City trialist go, having played in a similar role against Sheffield Utd (superior opposition to Walsall obviously) yet was quick and pushed up well...RHJ, spinning around like a dying fly for most of the game!

But it was just one game! After following the Cobblers for a number of years I have learnt not to judge players on one performance, good or bad. Give the lad a chance or should we write off Lines & McCormack (to name two) also?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Coolcat on August 04, 2019, 20:38:30 pm
But it was just one game! After following the Cobblers for a number of years I have learnt not to judge players on one performance, good or bad. Give the lad a chance or should we write off Lines & McCormack (to name two) also?
McCormack did ok till going off injured! Didn't seem like individual debut errors to me...come back to this later in the season shall we?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 04, 2019, 20:47:19 pm
McCormack did ok till going off injured! Didn't seem like individual debut errors to me...come back to this later in the season shall we?

Yes, we shall. According to someone behind me McCormack couldn't do anything right, but I thought he did ok but clearly he was unfit unfortunately.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 04, 2019, 20:55:48 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.

A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.

It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.
That's the Spirit..


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 04, 2019, 22:07:25 pm
Some what controversially from the sounds of it, I think Hall-Johnson got better as time went on. Admittedly he was flustered for the first 20, and in particular his distribution was not working at all, but I don't think it was any worse than Wharton who also really struggled to get up to speed first half as well. Hall-Johnson also managed to throw his body in the way to smash the ball out away from the box from a corner/cross(?) from what would have very likely been a second goal for them towards the end of the first half as well, but he never really looked comfortable, especially in comparison to Goode who had a good game.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 04, 2019, 22:09:59 pm
A club going NOWHERE off the field has almost no chance of going anywhere on the pitch.

A club (and it's fans) going through the motions.

It surprises me so many of you think it will be any different.

Back of the net post made me laugh, he is so anti the trust / fans being more involved, scoffed at my suggestion of a medium term plan (for the team to develop players) if it meant finishing 18th for a season or two, then 'happily' predicts a low / mid table finish prediction. !

Well we are already lower table, with no goals, no points, no entertainment value and no plans. Welcome to another season of KT / DB & Northampton Town Football Club.
Er, it was 18th for 4 seasons to develop the facilities. Happy to repost your complete drivel at any point to refresh your failing medium term memory. I scoffed as well by the way, 3 times now.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 04, 2019, 22:18:14 pm

Please give me one good reason why Northampton should not be a regular league 1 club or higher and anything lower is underachieving.

Iíll have a go. No one has consistently invested the considerable amounts necessary in the playing squad. Not that spending considerable amounts guarantees that. Of course we could develop the ground to attract players but that wonít guarantee it either? Sport you see, thereís always that element of unpredictability that seems to get in the way of the best laid plans? What did you think of the game anyway?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on August 04, 2019, 22:32:56 pm
Some what controversially from the sounds of it, I think Hall-Johnson got better as time went on. Admittedly he was flustered for the first 20, and in particular his distribution was not working at all, but I don't think it was any worse than Wharton who also really struggled to get up to speed first half as well. Hall-Johnson also managed to throw his body in the way to smash the ball out away from the box from a corner/cross(?) from what would have very likely been a second goal for them towards the end of the first half as well, but he never really looked comfortable, especially in comparison to Goode who had a good game.

Nothing  controversial with your comments ref H-J , he was typically inconsistent good one minute followed by a poor pass. Wharton had an in out game first half but certainly got better as the game progressed. Seems a good loan signing to me. Thought that Lines was desperately disappointing all game and lucky not to be hauled off. However  the real weakness was service from left, McCormack lookimg unfit and should have not been risked, Hoskins a la Hoskins. Until we remedy the leftside problem plus a a proven goal scorer; we will continue to disappoint.  Quite a few on here thought that Walsall were mediocre - I thought that they were quite a decent side and defended well second half mainly thanks to their goalie. Finally we should perservere with H-J , he will clearly get better.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 04, 2019, 22:40:51 pm
Nothing controverial on your comments ref H-J , he was typically inconsistent good one minute followed by a poor pass. Wharton had an in out game first half but certainly got better as the game progressed. Seems a good loan signing to me. Thought that Lines was desperately disappointing all game and lucky not to be hauled off. However  the real weakness was service from left, McCormack lookimg unfit and should have not been risked, Hoskins a la Hoskins. Until we remedy the leftside problem plus a a proven goal scorer.  Quite a few on here thought that Walsall were mediocre - I thought that they were quite a decent side and defended well second half mainly thanks to their goalie. Finally we should perservere with H-J , he will clearly get better.
Sums up my thoughts Evers, 7 games in and weíll know where we are. Proven goal scorers is the tricky bit. As rare as rare at this level and cost a fortune and itís the holy grail of recruitment. I still hold out hope with the quality service that Adams provides Smith and Williams could still get be the answer despite Saturday. Particularly if we can solve the left side issue as well?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on August 05, 2019, 00:35:53 am
Some what controversially from the sounds of it, I think Hall-Johnson got better as time went on. Admittedly he was flustered for the first 20, and in particular his distribution was not working at all, but I don't think it was any worse than Wharton who also really struggled to get up to speed first half as well. Hall-Johnson also managed to throw his body in the way to smash the ball out away from the box from a corner/cross(?) from what would have very likely been a second goal for them towards the end of the first half as well, but he never really looked comfortable, especially in comparison to Goode who had a good game.

I also thought Hall-Johnson looked promising, obviously not a stellar debut, but I'm hopeful he will be decent for us at RB.

I thought overall we looked to be a technically better side than we did for most of last season. For example, I thought we saw more excellent deliveries into the box in that 1 match than we did for most of last season put together! I thought the teams technical improvement was such that Hoskins' lack of quality stuck out more than usual.

I can't agree with those who thought Walsall were average. I thought they were pretty decent and fancy they will be in and around the play-offs at the end of the season, though we certainly should have took something from the game.

My main concern though is the lack of goals in the team. McCormack, Lines, Watson, McWilliams, Adams and Hoskins are all very infrequent goalscorers, while both Smith and Oliver are not remotely what you could call 'prolific'. Only Williams has consistently scored in league football, but how often will Curle start him in games? It leaves a lot of pressure on Warburton's shoulders to make the step up and score regularly in his debut season, so fingers crossed on that one.

Hopefully we'll see one or two more attacking players in before the window closes, otherwise I think 1-0 (to either side) will become a very common scoreline this season.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on August 05, 2019, 00:37:19 am
Nothing  controversial with your comments ref H-J , he was typically inconsistent good one minute followed by a poor pass. Wharton had an in out game first half but certainly got better as the game progressed. Seems a good loan signing to me. Thought that Lines was desperately disappointing all game and lucky not to be hauled off. However  the real weakness was service from left, McCormack lookimg unfit and should have not been risked, Hoskins a la Hoskins. Until we remedy the leftside problem plus a a proven goal scorer; we will continue to disappoint.  Quite a few on here thought that Walsall were mediocre - I thought that they were quite a decent side and defended well second half mainly thanks to their goalie. Finally we should perservere with H-J , he will clearly get better.

I can't disagree with any of that Evers.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: pattcobb on August 05, 2019, 08:38:20 am
How you make 12 signings but Cornell and Hoskins still play is beyond me.
A sign of a team that will do well is the number of square pegs that are forced into round holes.
We ended up with Hoskins as a winger and McWilliams as a full back.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: random on August 05, 2019, 08:55:55 am
Er, it was 18th for 4 seasons to develop the facilities. Happy to repost your complete drivel at any point to refresh your failing medium term memory. I scoffed as well by the way, 3 times now.

Please explain how what we do now is any better?  Already had 3 seasons of low finishes, now on for our fourth under KT, but he is preferred as he has no plan  LOL and you say you are a businessman  LOL LOL LOL

Fail to prepare is prepare to fail, exactly what we are doing.

How / Why do you think we will achieve success under current ownership and management


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: random on August 05, 2019, 09:00:06 am
Nope didn't go to the game as refuse to give KT my money or time.

But like many of the opening games I have seen let me guess.......

we huffed and puffed, had a couple of chances, gave them an easy one, booted the ball all over the park, didn't score and lost.

Most players were bang average, 1-2 were crap and 1 had a decent game.

Ultimately we LOST at home against an average team and didn't score or entertain.  But we have 10 new players in the club at least a few ****** fans are happy


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 05, 2019, 09:06:32 am
Please explain how what we do now is any better?  Already had 3 seasons of low finishes, now on for our fourth under KT, but he is preferred as he has no plan  LOL and you say you are a businessman  LOL LOL LOL

Fail to prepare is prepare to fail, exactly what we are doing.

How / Why do you think we will achieve success under current ownership and management

it isnít, and I donít. The current owners are taking us nowhere and your business plan (excuse me whilst I p1ss myself) takes us straight out of the football league and probably out of business. Youre still getting yourself all confused. I know this is concept you struggle with but just because I think you have the business acumen of an amoeba, doesnít mean I support the current owners.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Manwork04 on August 05, 2019, 09:23:24 am
How you make 12 signings but Cornell and Hoskins still play is beyond me.
A sign of a team that will do well is the number of square pegs that are forced into round holes.
We ended up with Hoskins as a winger and McWilliams as a full back.
This sums it up for me, 12 signings and Hoskins is still on the pitch in a position that he has time and again proved heís useless at fcuking winger.
Loose to Port Vale and the pressure will be on Clueless Curle.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Buster on August 05, 2019, 09:33:52 am
Well we created enough chances to win 4 games. Swap keepers and we win 3-0.

How does that work then?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 05, 2019, 09:42:13 am
Noticeably , none of the young lads got given a chance on Saturday .
Itís early days but so much is going to depend on how well the likes of Pollock , Roberts and Williams do when they get a chance. I canít help thinking Pollock deserves the nod over Hoskins or as  stela emend for Warburton as a sub .
Williams also has to start as our only recognised goalscorer.
Bunney also solves the issues on the left side.
I firmly believe if we kept Bunney and Morias , we have a decent enough squad but Curle remains the issue for me.
Itís early days but the man is just uninspiring .


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 05, 2019, 10:27:31 am
Noticeably , none of the young lads got given a chance on Saturday .
Itís early days but so much is going to depend on how well the likes of Pollock , Roberts and Williams do when they get a chance. I canít help thinking Pollock deserves the nod over Hoskins or as  stela emend for Warburton as a sub .
Williams also has to start as our only recognised goalscorer.
Bunney also solves the issues on the left side.
I firmly believe if we kept Bunney and Morias , we have a decent enough squad but Curle remains the issue for me.
Itís early days but the man is just uninspiring .

+1


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 05, 2019, 10:30:03 am
We have already heard that Bunney wants a move North, and that's probably the reason why he's out of the reckoning, but what about Morias? Has he given a similar, want away, type message to the club?

Would be interested to hear from any "in the know".


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 05, 2019, 10:38:45 am
We've seen this all too often before.

Lose the first game or two, pull off a shock in the Coca Cola Cup, lose a few more games.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on August 05, 2019, 10:41:44 am
We have already heard that Bunney wants a move North, and that's probably the reason why he's out of the reckoning, but what about Morias? Has he given a similar, want away, type message to the club?

Would be interested to hear from any "in the know".

Keith Curle is on record as saying that he told Morias he's not likely to get much game time and he would understand if he wanted to look elsewhere to play regularly. That seems pretty clear to me.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on August 05, 2019, 10:46:07 am
This sums it up for me, 12 signings and Hoskins is still on the pitch in a position that he has time and again proved heís useless at fcuking winger.
Loose to Port Vale and the pressure will be on Clueless Curle.

I'm convinced that Hoskins stays in the team due to his pace, which can help make things happen. However, he's not a winger and I don't understand why KC hasn't brought in another winger when he clearly wants to play two. As far as I can see Adams is the only genuine winger we have. God help us if/when he gets injured.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 05, 2019, 11:04:16 am
We have already heard that Bunney wants a move North, and that's probably the reason why he's out of the reckoning, but what about Morias? Has he given a similar, want away, type message to the club?

Would be interested to hear from any "in the know".

Bunney may want a move north, but if we were to hit the top of the league and he was playing regularly, then he'd be happy to see the season out.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: barton cobbler on August 05, 2019, 11:12:20 am
Bunney may want a move north, but if we were to hit the top of the league and he was playing regularly, then he'd be happy to see the season out.
We have to assume that Bunney is on decent money, so it's highly unlikely that any Northern club is going to come in for him, and take on his contract, if his sitting in the stands not playing for an average League 2 team.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 05, 2019, 11:15:25 am
We have already heard that Bunney wants a move North, and that's probably the reason why he's out of the reckoning, but what about Morias? Has he given a similar, want away, type message to the club?

Would be interested to hear from any "in the know".
Both Morias and Bunney are employed by the club.
They would both add to what we already have and give something different.
They should be part of the set up regardless of their position at the club .
I couldnt care less if they wanted to leave or not . Donít pay them if they donít want to be here .


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: clarkeysntfc on August 05, 2019, 11:49:29 am
Hoskins will cost KC his job if he keeps picking him and expecting him to score goals.

We were not fantastic by any means but we should have won that game on Saturday. Hoskins' 2 misses were absolutely dreadful.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: sxcobbler on August 05, 2019, 11:52:24 am
How does that work then?

"Well we created enough chances to win 4 games. Swap keepers and we win 3-0."

Shall I explain............

As it stood we were incapable of beating their keeper, he was clearly their match winner, making some superb saves....we could have played another half....

But swap keepers & Cornell would have let in at least 3 goals.

& their keeper, being taller and so much much better on the day, would have probably saved the free ( zone marking problem) header from the corner.
Walsall keeper, Roberts, makes all the difference.



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Patmore on August 05, 2019, 11:53:07 am
What is obvious is that the ďsummer clear outĒ has changed nothing.

We got a keeper in, but a keeper lacking in league experience and not capable of dislodging Cornell, who will continue to be a damaging problem.
We have three good players at centre back who will all want / need to start games, but we do not have the players needed in others positions to effectively play this system.
We have a whole host of players who all need to play in the middle of the park. Far too many options in this area, but most of them pretty average. (Lines and Watson an upgrade on Foley and OíToole?)
We STILL only have one wide man in the whole club (+ Morgan). At least now the wide man is a quality player.
Only real change for me is that we have a target man up front, which we have lacked for a while. However, this is at the expense of any pace or goal scoring record. Even more worryingly, we started the game with 1 striker on the pitch and still only had Williams as the sole attacking option from the bench.

The outcome, we were beaten by a combination of the only meaningful attempt by the opposition going in and our own inability to convert several good chances. We finished the game with McWilliams at RB, Adams on the left, Goode up front and Hoskins as a winger throughout.

Nothing has changed.



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: pattcobb on August 05, 2019, 11:55:47 am

I couldnt care less if they wanted to leave or not . Donít pay them if they donít want to be here .


That's the good thing about Brexit isn't it? All the overbearing employment laws over contracts etc. can be ripped up and we can return to the 1800s


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on August 05, 2019, 12:06:01 pm
I'm convinced that Hoskins stays in the team due to his pace, which can help make things happen. However, he's not a winger and I don't understand why KC hasn't brought in another winger when he clearly wants to play two. As far as I can see Adams is the only genuine winger we have. God help us if/when he gets injured.

I'm not convinced his pace is that much of an asset anymore. 2-3 seasons ago it was, but injury and age has taken that edge off his game. I think both Morias and Waters are better technical and more intelligent footballers than Hoskins but I suspect KC doesn't think they have the right 'physical' attributes.

If Hoskins ends up being a regular starter this season I expect us to finish no higher than 10th.



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 05, 2019, 12:23:30 pm
Both Morias and Bunney are employed by the club.
They would both add to what we already have and give something different.
They should be part of the set up regardless of their position at the club .
I couldnt care less if they wanted to leave or not . Donít pay them if they donít want to be here .


More to the point, having them around the first team helps keep them in the shop window. I've never understood the point of freezing players out, unless they've been a disruptive influence, which doesn't seem to be the case.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: claretarmy on August 05, 2019, 12:46:56 pm
Regarding Bunney, Keith Curle said on Radio Northampton last Thursday that since they met (assuming it was when KC took over or in January), when Keith talked about tearing up his contract so Bunney could head north -that since Bunney has been back for pre-season, there has been no mention of a move away and he has knuckled down. OK, the club have placed him on the transfer list, but unless anything changed from Thursday evening, Bunney appears to want to play for the club, or has had no negative impact on the squad.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 05, 2019, 12:59:31 pm
"Well we created enough chances to win 4 games. Swap keepers and we win 3-0."

Shall I explain............

As it stood we were incapable of beating their keeper, he was clearly their match winner, making some superb saves....we could have played another half....

But swap keepers & Cornell would have let in at least 3 goals.

& their keeper, being taller and so much much better on the day, would have probably saved the free ( zone marking problem) header from the corner.
Walsall keeper, Roberts, makes all the difference.


Congratulations for convincingly winning the first prize for the most pointless , ridiculous comment of the new season.
It will take some beating for the esteemed n*b trophy


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2019, 13:22:14 pm
Regarding Bunney, Keith Curle said on Radio Northampton last Thursday that since they met (assuming it was when KC took over or in January), when Keith talked about tearing up his contract so Bunney could head north -that since Bunney has been back for pre-season, there has been no mention of a move away and he has knuckled down. OK, the club have placed him on the transfer list, but unless anything changed from Thursday evening, Bunney appears to want to play for the club, or has had no negative impact on the squad.

TBH, I thought that Joe Martin was one of our better performers on Saturday.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: ItsaSetPieceDivision on August 05, 2019, 13:53:25 pm
"Well we created enough chances to win 4 games. Swap keepers and we win 3-0."

Shall I explain............

As it stood we were incapable of beating their keeper, he was clearly their match winner, making some superb saves....we could have played another half....

But swap keepers & Cornell would have let in at least 3 goals.

& their keeper, being taller and so much much better on the day, would have probably saved the free ( zone marking problem) header from the corner.
Walsall keeper, Roberts, makes all the difference.


I get it. If our team was better then their team we would have won.

In other news if the England players were French we'd have won the World Cup.





Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2019, 15:41:57 pm
Congratulations for convincingly winning the first prize for the most pointless , ridiculous comment of the new season.
It will take some beating for the esteemed n*b trophy

 ;D Shall enjoy ribbing you Sussex when we next meet! Fancy upsetting an esteemed Hotel End Pundit 8)


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Clarity on August 05, 2019, 16:09:04 pm
TBH, I thought that Joe Martin was one of our better performers on Saturday.
Agreed. We could do with someone like him on the other side


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: FrenchCobbler on August 05, 2019, 16:24:36 pm
I actually thought the saves their keeper made looked better than they actually were. The Hoskine one in the 1st half was a poor finish from Hoskins (surprise surprise) and the header in the 2nd half looked dramatic but was a pretty routine save.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Lukey on August 05, 2019, 17:12:38 pm
Thought that Lines was desperately disappointing all game and lucky not to be hauled off.

Someone voted him as MOTM on the other forum https://cobblersforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=33  ::)

Either that person was watching from the hill with Beds or a trip to Specsavers is needed, I can think of 3 times when Lines needlessly rushed a pass which he should have taken a minute and passed to the guy at the side, instead of putting his team mate under pressure.

Yes we created chances which is good but quality of finishing was poor, we lacked sharpness and not every league is forgiving and gives you the first 10 or 15 games to warm up. I know i said friendlies are not important but i didn't expect us to be quite so sloppy and sleepy.

Big improvement needed for Saturday, need to get at least a point on the board because Ryan Lowe has assembled a very good Plymouth squad, a manager and some players who experienced promotion last year from this division so they know what it's about and hit the ground running on Saturday.


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 05, 2019, 18:18:52 pm
Arenít we playing Port Vale on Saturday?


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 05, 2019, 19:17:08 pm
Arenít we playing Port Vale on Saturday?

Yes. ;D


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 05, 2019, 19:48:15 pm
Big improvement needed for Saturday, need to get at least a point on the board because Ryan Lowe has assembled a very good Plymouth squad, a manager and some players who experienced promotion last year from this division so they know what it's about and hit the ground running on Saturday.
A little early dude. Like about nine months.  ;D



Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: Coolcat on August 05, 2019, 20:32:27 pm
Arenít we playing Port Vale on Saturday?
Yes, but Plymouth is always worth a mention!  ;D

Does geography, clubs and days out play so little in the minds of some fans that merely beginning with the same letter, takes them so off target?  :o


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2019, 22:13:44 pm
Yes, but Plymouth is always worth a mention!  ;D

Does geography, clubs and days out play so little in the minds of some fans that merely beginning with the same letter, takes them so off target?  :o

Fair comment Coolie; mind you have nether ever in my wildest dreams acquainted Port Vale with Portsmouth


Title: Re: Walsall 3rd August
Post by: NTFC87 on August 05, 2019, 23:32:33 pm
Well thought we would do a bit better than we did but I'm used to it now think there is definitely a place for morias in the starting 11 but we go again a vale fingers crossed " we've gelled " a bit more before then