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Title: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3063 on August 26, 2019, 15:34:54 pm
We play Arsenal U21s in the Leasing.com Trophy tomorrow night (7.30pm kick-off) in a group that also contains Peterborough and Cambridge. 

I am attending with my son (I await abuse for supporting my team), so who else is going up to this one? 


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 26, 2019, 16:11:33 pm
Nope.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 26, 2019, 16:13:30 pm
Nope.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 26, 2019, 16:21:25 pm
Nope.
Plagiarist.  ;D


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Manwork04 on August 26, 2019, 16:28:41 pm
Nope


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: corno_ntfc on August 26, 2019, 16:50:12 pm
Absolutely not


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 26, 2019, 16:52:02 pm
Non


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3086 on August 26, 2019, 17:04:01 pm
Nein.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: BMON on August 26, 2019, 17:07:13 pm
We play Arsenal U21s in the Leasing.com Trophy tomorrow night (7.30pm kick-off) in a group that also contains Peterborough and Cambridge. 

I am attending with my son (I await abuse for supporting my team), so who else is going up to this one? 

I feel your pain.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 26, 2019, 17:23:43 pm
I feel your pain.
I am not feeling much love in the air for this game.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest48 on August 26, 2019, 17:38:40 pm
I'm going  :-[ Might see some future superstars !  Also stops me getting in the pub too early for the Tuesday night session


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3264 on August 26, 2019, 17:40:19 pm
Our group are all going with the hope we see our younger players in the team like; J.Williams, Roberts, Pollock and McWilliams.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3063 on August 26, 2019, 17:48:20 pm
I'm going  :-[ Might see some future superstars !  Also stops me getting in the pub too early for the Tuesday night session

Well done barton, at least we won't be on our own.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3063 on August 26, 2019, 17:49:41 pm
Our group are all going with the hope we see our younger players in the team like; J.Williams, Roberts, Pollock and McWilliams.

And more, excellent.


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 26, 2019, 19:41:39 pm
And more, excellent.

In spite of Saturdays showing which was dreadful will probably go. I am disappointed to see the list of supporters not going although one or two have not as yet witnessed a game this season.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 26, 2019, 20:09:51 pm
Oh well, you can be disappointed in me too because I won't be going either!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3293 on August 26, 2019, 21:06:38 pm
Is it on IFollow?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: NTFC87 on August 26, 2019, 22:01:20 pm
How many of you that don't go in early group games would go Wembley if we got to the final


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 03:07:06 am
Is it on IFollow?
Yes


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 03:07:44 am
Prediction 0-2..Arse


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: threeinabed on August 27, 2019, 07:29:51 am
How many of you that don't go in early group games would go Wembley if we got to the final

yep


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 07:57:16 am
Nope

Thank goodness


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 08:14:00 am
Thank goodness
I think you might be disappointed. Looks like I can buy a video pass for a tenner.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 10:26:09 am
I think you might be disappointed. Looks like I can buy a video pass for a tenner.

Same price as a tkt ::)


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 10:28:00 am
Same price as a tkt ::)
Yeah, but I could be millions of miles away, geographically or physically.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2019, 12:41:06 pm
Yep it's a no from me. Fourth year with B teams, 4th year of absence. And yes, I'll gladly skip a Wembley visit in this competition too.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: CobblerForever on August 27, 2019, 12:47:07 pm
The experience at a live match is better than IFollow. It's more real and vibrant. Each to their own though. I'm going and it's a 50 mile round trip for me. I'm looking forward to it. It's only £5.00 and there will be plenty of interest - the game itself as a contest, the potential quality of Aresnal's youngsters, some of our own getting a chance, Fisher in goal (?), Curle's chance to try more assertive tactics, a good view with plenty of seating to choose from.

I wish it was at Arsenals new ground though. Never been there. Highbury - probably 50 or more times.

ps the fact that so few will be attending will mean we can hear a lot of the vocal exchanges as well as the physical impacts.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 12:57:30 pm
The experience at a live match is better than IFollow. It's more real and vibrant. Each to their own though. I'm going and it's a 50 mile round trip for me. I'm looking forward to it. It's only £5.00 and there will be plenty of interest - the game itself as a contest, the potential quality of Aresnal's youngsters, some of our own getting a chance, Fisher in goal (?), Curle's chance to try more assertive tactics, a good view with plenty of seating to choose from.

I wish it was at Arsenals new ground though. Never been there. Highbury - probably 50 or more times.

ps the fact that so few will be attending will mean we can hear a lot of the vocal exchanges as well as the physical impacts.
50 or more times...does that make you GoonerForever also?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 13:36:05 pm
50 or more times...does that make you GoonerForever also?

Praise worthy attitude tho' - shows some of us up!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 13:41:57 pm
I think you might be disappointed. Looks like I can buy a video pass for a tenner.

Made an error the cost is only a £5.00 - seems you are doing it the expensive and lazy way. Plus that fact you are depriving your club of much needed support!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: singcobb on August 27, 2019, 13:46:27 pm
Prediction 0-2..Arse

Nearer 0-20


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 27, 2019, 13:55:12 pm
Plagiarist.  ;D

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Aresnal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 27, 2019, 13:56:49 pm
In spite of Saturdays showing which was dreadful will probably go. I am disappointed to see the list of supporters not going although one or two have not as yet witnessed a game this season.

How would you know? ??? ::)


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: CobblerForever on August 27, 2019, 15:08:09 pm
50 or more times...does that make you GoonerForever also?

Highbury was the closest Division 1 ground to where I lived 1981 to 1987. The Cobblers have only ever been the team I actually get hot under the collar about. First game April 13th 1971 against Grimsby (0-4 home defeat). I've been well over 500 times since then.

I wonder if there will be anyone there tonight who witnessed the victory against Arsenal in the FA Cup in the late 50s.

https://afchistory.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/arsenal-crash-out-of-the-fa-cup-at-northampton-on-this-day-4th-january-1958/


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 15:49:21 pm
Made an error the cost is only a £5.00 - seems you are doing it the expensive and lazy way. Plus that fact you are depriving your club of much needed support!
i know and I would if I could but I cant.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 15:54:40 pm
Highbury was the closest Division 1 ground to where I lived 1981 to 1987. The Cobblers have only ever been the team I actually get hot under the collar about. First game April 13th 1971 against Grimsby (0-4 home defeat). I've been well over 500 times since then.

I wonder if there will be anyone there tonight who witnessed the victory against Arsenal in the FA Cup in the late 50s.

https://afchistory.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/arsenal-crash-out-of-the-fa-cup-at-northampton-on-this-day-4th-january-1958/
Yeah, but what was the closest league ground to you between 81/87?
Joking  ;D
It's probably the wrong weather to get hot under the collar over the Cobblers tonight.
Cornell to win out in the penalty shoot out...


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: CobblerForever on August 27, 2019, 16:25:09 pm
Yeah, but what was the closest league ground to you between 81/87?
Joking  ;D
It's probably the wrong weather to get hot under the collar over the Cobblers tonight.
Cornell to win out in the penalty shoot out...

Easy answer - Orient. Went there twice. Cobblers won both 1-0 - the Carr Cobblers glory days.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 16:57:24 pm
Highbury was the closest Division 1 ground to where I lived 1981 to 1987. The Cobblers have only ever been the team I actually get hot under the collar about. First game April 13th 1971 against Grimsby (0-4 home defeat). I've been well over 500 times since then.

I wonder if there will be anyone there tonight who witnessed the victory against Arsenal in the FA Cup in the late 50s.

https://afchistory.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/arsenal-crash-out-of-the-fa-cup-at-northampton-on-this-day-4th-january-1958/

That was 50 years ago and still at School so I went. Remember Tebbut and Yeomans. They had a centre half called Fotheringay who we signed.

casual error there!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 17:04:38 pm
Easy answer - Orient. Went there twice. Cobblers won both 1-0 - the Carr Cobblers glory days.

Even better was our first season in the old Second Div when we played LO who had a highly rated Centre Forward called Bollond it was a very muddy pitch and ended 0-0 with Bolland looking like a mud wrestler - Branston just flattened him every time; or he just fell over! Even at 0-0 you could tell we had form! Over 16 coaches came from Northampton that day.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 17:23:20 pm
Easy answer - Orient. Went there twice. Cobblers won both 1-0 - the Carr Cobblers glory days.
I lived in Kilburn 1982/82 rented a bedsit for 20 quid a week. Nearest ground was Loftus road but I never went there until we played them in 2001. I stood on the kop a bit though when at uni in Liverpool.
I can also claim over 500 Cobblers matches, not sure exactly how many though. 
Orient away with Shilton in goal was one game I remember, and being joined by a few West Ham lending us their support.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Alan Partridge on August 27, 2019, 17:25:05 pm
Over 16 coaches came from Northampton that day.

So 17 then?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 17:39:54 pm
So 17 then?

I  was in coach no 7 and was able to count them as far as I could actually. ...  so there clever chops

Hope Smith isn't playing against Holding if so he (Holding) could be out for another year.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 27, 2019, 17:46:46 pm
Smith starts, as does Hoskins...along with Waters and Bunney.

The much changed team....

Fisher
Goode, Turnbull, Bunney, McWilliams
Hoskins, Watson, Pollock
Waters, Smith, Warburton

Subs: Cornell, Adams, Lines, Oliver, J Williams, A Williams , Roberts


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 27, 2019, 17:57:12 pm
So "giving the youngsters a chance" means Pollock in the starting line up and Roberts & Williams on the bench. With Wharton already injured why risk both of our only fit senior centre backs in this pointless match?!?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 27, 2019, 18:04:59 pm
So "giving the youngsters a chance" means Pollock in the starting line up and Roberts & Williams on the bench. With Wharton already injured why risk both of our only fit senior centre backs in this pointless match?!?

Is it because what Curle says and what he means are two different things entirely?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: JollyCobbler on August 27, 2019, 18:18:50 pm
Is it because what Curle says and what he means are two different things entirely?

I dunno, mate. I'm still struggling to understand anything he says, let alone what he actually means.  :) Listening to him talking is all a bit ::)


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 18:47:31 pm
I hate Arsenal.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2995 on August 27, 2019, 19:03:53 pm
Other than league rules stipulating who has to play from previous appearances , the only other explanation for this farce is that KC fears for his job


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 19:19:14 pm
0-0 HT
Zz-zzzzzzzzzz
Boring rubbish


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 19:20:54 pm
I hate Arsenal.
I dont


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Clarity on August 27, 2019, 19:27:35 pm
Harry Smith  ::) ::) :'(


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 19:30:41 pm
2.5k there with only 600 gooners.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 19:35:54 pm
2.5k there with only 600 gooners.

the way its going they'll be only 600 of us by the Bradford game.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 19:49:52 pm
I truly believe theres a goal in us..


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 19:55:34 pm
There might be now Doc. Ten vs eleven.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 19:57:00 pm
I truly believe theres a goal in us..
I don't


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 19:59:25 pm
Its just a matter of time before The Hoskmeister tucks one away


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:02:20 pm
Its just a matter of time before The Hoskmeister tucks one away
He's the greatest!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 20:05:16 pm
I can see why Curle signed Smith  ::)


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:08:42 pm
I can see why Curle signed Smith  ::)
He's almost the greatest after the Revmeister


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 20:11:14 pm
Ffs sake. Losing to a bunch of ten year olds now.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:11:55 pm
Curle may be sacked before Bradford


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:14:34 pm
1-1


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:15:24 pm
Who else but the Hoskmeister


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:15:45 pm
Have some of that Arsenal tossers!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:16:13 pm
Ok lets try again..
I truly believe theres a second goal in us


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 20:17:24 pm
Everythings good now, Willos on. We'll win this easy.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:20:21 pm
Ok lets try again..
I truly believe theres a second goal in us
I don't


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:21:05 pm
Everythings good now, Willos on. We'll win this easy.
Well played cj.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:21:45 pm
Well played cj.
hes the greatest


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:26:18 pm
1-1 FT


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:28:42 pm
Pens now


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:31:09 pm
I've got a very bad feeling about these penalties.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on August 27, 2019, 20:33:45 pm
Should have brought Dai on at 89 minutes, just my opinion!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 27, 2019, 20:35:56 pm
Should have brought Dai on at 89 minutes, just my opinion!
Fisher saves  :D


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on August 27, 2019, 20:37:48 pm
Humble pie being eaten in Luxembourg !


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:39:02 pm
So far so good 3 from 3
Arse fluffled their first


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:42:32 pm
Cobbs win 4-3 on pens


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Baldy on August 27, 2019, 20:42:54 pm
We're the greatest penalty takers in the world!!!


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:43:30 pm
Goode missed the last one but so did they.
We're the greatest penalty takers in the World.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 20:44:36 pm
We're the greatest penalty takers in the world!!!
plagiarism


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest1269 on August 27, 2019, 21:06:18 pm
Ok so strange opposition therefore difficult to make too many conclusions but overall I felt our passing and attacking ideas were a definite improvement.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 27, 2019, 21:16:37 pm
Is it just me, or does the name of the Gooners lad who was red carded remind anyone else of The Wombles?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3293 on August 27, 2019, 21:29:02 pm
The post match interview with Curle is a new level of utter tripe.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2019, 22:15:48 pm
There is more tripe written on here with Feelgood excelling. As for the game; credits to Hoskins with a great goal, decent crowd too, the new goalie looks and played in a confident manner with some good saves. Waters played well particularly 2nd half. Warburton played his part but not quite at the races. The reality is that we should have won before any penalties as we dominated a lot of the game especially 2nd half. Lines came on late so had no real input in the game; unless he was the geezer who passed to Hoskins who scored with a wonderful strike. At times the Arsenal youngsters were out fought and somewhat easily knocked off the ball. Some of their passing was woeful how many times did they pass the ball out of play?
If only they could have played with the same determination last Saturday; Waters in the second half was twisting and turning to great effect. The downside was our finishing and the creation of chances is still evident but overall the performance was decent riposte to that dreadful display at Colchester. I suppose the fact that we won gaining 2 points and against such illustrious opponents is no mean feat. However Arsenal were a disappointment and not a patch on Southampton or WBA last year. I never found the first half such utter dross as one pundit put it. I would say that those who so proudly stayed away missed a decent result. Special praise for KC who picked the right team, brought his subs on when it mattered and clearly motivated his team; they wanted to win.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on August 27, 2019, 22:18:40 pm
The post match interview with Curle is a new level of utter tripe.

What part? It sounded generally reasonable to me.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: memyhead on August 27, 2019, 22:33:15 pm
The post match interview with Curle is a new level of utter tripe.

Agree, he mentioned the old microwave session & getting the ball below the bar again  ::)

Doesn't help that no probing questions are ever asked, such as are you replacing Morias & getting in a proper left winger!!!

Tbf Waters ran his little legs off tonight but he's not the answer, same goes for Bunney...


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Dr Feelgood on August 27, 2019, 23:52:23 pm
There is more tripe written on here with Feelgood excelling.
thats funny coming from you Cecil  :-*


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest3264 on August 28, 2019, 05:32:23 am
I thought the only player to look good for Arsenal was Nathan Tormey who was exactly the left footed attacker we are screaming out for.......Loan???

Waters and Bunney, McWilliams and Hoskins (Yes he did, at last, have a good game!) linked well to give us a degree of threat! Personally I believe Bunney has to play further forward.

Did Curle tell the media we would play some youngsters?...................Pollock only! A missed opportunity to play Jay Williams and Morgan Roberts. How else can they improve and be judged.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on August 28, 2019, 06:13:39 am
An enjoyable game. Agree about Bunney, much more effective further forward, still a liability at left back, he was AWOK for their goal. Hoskins scored a good goal but prior to that had produced little. Thought Waters did really well, some nice turns, strong on the ball and put in a good shift. Smith totally ineffective again, that worries me! Agree about their flank players that’s what you call pace and we have none of that in the team


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest1269 on August 28, 2019, 06:38:22 am
An enjoyable game. Agree about Bunney, much more effective further forward, still a liability at left back, he was AWOK for their goal. Hoskins scored a good goal but prior to that had produced little. Thought Waters did really well, some nice turns, strong on the ball and put in a good shift. Smith totally ineffective again, that worries me! Agree about their flank players that’s what you call pace and we have none of that in the team

Agreed, Waters MOM for me,


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Clarity on August 28, 2019, 06:51:28 am
An enjoyable game. Agree about Bunney, much more effective further forward, still a liability at left back, he was AWOK for their goal. Hoskins scored a good goal but prior to that had produced little. Thought Waters did really well, some nice turns, strong on the ball and put in a good shift. Smith totally ineffective again, that worries me! Agree about their flank players that’s what you call pace and we have none of that in the team
You’re right about Smith, he was poor again


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2995 on August 28, 2019, 07:29:47 am
So Bunney looked better in a more advanced position ?? Well well well what a pleasant surprise . Who would have thought ........
Warburton and Smith need to start turning up though .


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: threeinabed on August 28, 2019, 07:45:32 am
So Bunney looked better in a more advanced position ?? Well well well what a pleasant surprise . Who would have thought ........
Warburton and Smith need to start turning up though .

warburton has to be given time - first season as a pro footballer - no different to being a youngster learning his trade.

but smith - should be more useful.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on August 28, 2019, 08:01:46 am
First half was pretty boring to be honest. Apart from a couple of Hoskins interceptions there was little purpose to the attack. It looked like KC played a 4-2-3-1 with Hoskins, Warburton and Waters behind Smith. However Smith was totally isolated and totally ineffective. Warburton sitting far too deep, he is not going to score many playing in this position. No real concerted pressure on the Arsenal goal, no high pressing game, and no real attempts at goal from what I can remember. Going purely from the shirt numbers I suspect this wasn't Arsenal's strongest U-21 by any means. Second half showed a little more purpose but still not really testing their keeper.

Superb goal from Hoskins who overall looked our best attacking threat and was instrumental in drawing the foul that saw their man get sent off. Pollock was disappointing in central midfield 2 but then this probably is not his best position. Watson was tidy on the ball but no great ball-winner. Waters showed good purpose and played better 2nd half. When Lines came on he started passing the ball about to good intent and we definitely played better as a result. Combined with a McCormack or Shaun in central midfield he still could be our best option but I doubt there's 90 minutes to be had from him.

Bunney a decent enough player who can cross a ball, could play left midfield but is a liability at left back. It seems neither he nor Martin is going to be the answer there.  Goode and Turnbull solid enough in the centre and the goalie did well. Shaun McWilliams was O.K. at RB but as many are tired of saying this is not his best position.

Smith is no Marc Richards, Williams is a goalscorer but does get caught on the ball a bit and lacks pace, so I not sure who should be the focus of our attack at the moment. Oliver has pace, is good in the air, and set up the chance for Hoskins at the death last night, so maybe deserves a chance on Saturday.

Adams and hopefully Wharton will be back for Saturday but KC is still no nearer finding his strongest eleven.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest1269 on August 28, 2019, 09:13:51 am
You’re right about Smith, he was poor again


Huge disappointment so far - still it’s a long season


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: everbrite on August 28, 2019, 11:42:53 am
An enjoyable game. Agree about Bunney, much more effective further forward, still a liability at left back, he was AWOK for their goal. Hoskins scored a good goal but prior to that had produced little. Thought Waters did really well, some nice turns, strong on the ball and put in a good shift. Smith totally ineffective again, that worries me! Agree about their flank players that’s what you call pace and we have none of that in the team

Bit harsh on Hoskins who I thought was our main threat last night. He did some good interceptions first half . Bunney's mistake for their goal and not overall impressed by him. Thought their right winger ran around a lot and reminded me of Hoskins! Their guy who scored was good and had pace.

nb Hoskins was so poor at Colchester that would happily see him dropped - for ever.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Parklands Cobbler on August 28, 2019, 12:16:13 pm
Agree entirely with Joes left foot review of the game.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: observer1 on August 28, 2019, 12:37:52 pm
Switched off totally for their goal, completely unmarked. That's 10 home games in a row without a clean sheet now.

Of all the new signings Oliver continues to catch the eye. Another good performance from him, hope he continues to improve.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: CobblerForever on August 28, 2019, 13:00:08 pm
That was 50 years ago and still at School so I went. Remember Tebbut and Yeomans. They had a centre half called Fotheringay who we signed.

casual error there!

Responding to Evers comments regarding the Jan 4 1958 FA Cup 3rd Round defeat of Arsenal;

21,344 there. The place must have been heaving ! I assume most would have got to the ground by foot or bus. Abington must have been alive with humanity. God knows what the noise was like when the Cobblers scored.


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Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 28, 2019, 13:33:10 pm
In the video, it looked like Bunney had been pulled in to cover the centre backs, which left the far post vacant for their goal?
Whoever was left midfield could/should have been covering?


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Post by: guest48 on August 28, 2019, 13:36:16 pm
Andy Woodman on the Arsenal backroom bench, responded with a thumbs up to the "Woodieee" shouts. Also Per Mertasaker in the posh seats.


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Post by: threeinabed on August 28, 2019, 13:44:42 pm
In the video, it looked like Bunney had been pulled in to cover the centre backs, which left the far post vacant for their goal?
Whoever was left midfield could/should have been covering?

lack of communication from bunney to the centre halves - so instead he got dragged in and left his man unmarked.

bunney has never been in the right position at any point during his time as a left back.



Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 28, 2019, 14:07:40 pm

bunney has never been in the right position at any point during his time as a left back.


Never, not even momentarily by accident?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: CobblerForever on August 28, 2019, 14:14:11 pm
lack of communication from bunney to the centre halves - so instead he got dragged in and left his man unmarked.

bunney has never been in the right position at any point during his time as a left back.



From where I was watching (the ideal place to see this in the second half) it was very clear that McWilliams was RB, Goode RCB, Turnbull LCB but not clear at all who was LB. Bunney just doesn't look comfortable there. He looked left sided midfield most of the time.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest48 on August 28, 2019, 15:39:38 pm
Andy Woodman on the Arsenal backroom bench, responded with a thumbs up to the "Woodieee" shouts. Also Per Mertasaker in the posh seats.
Oh and Cambridge Utd's top scorer on our bench wearing a NTFC shirt  :P


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Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 28, 2019, 15:47:14 pm
Never, not even momentarily by accident?
He probably has, it’s just that with this new fangled zonal marking system neither him or us have realised it?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 28, 2019, 19:13:23 pm
He probably has, it’s just that with this new fangled zonal marking system neither him or us have realised it?
So like the hands of a broken clock being right twice a day you mean?
He's not the answer to our left back problems that's for sure.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Why? on August 28, 2019, 20:07:18 pm
lack of communication from bunney to the centre halves - so instead he got dragged in and left his man unmarked.

bunney has never been in the right position at any point during his time as a left back.



......

His homesickness, expected to be cured by a move to Bury, is on hold, then?

He is HasselB's Turnbull.......

Expect a free transfer to Rochdale in the next couple of daze.


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 28, 2019, 22:49:29 pm
So like the hands of a broken clock being right twice a day you mean?
He's not the answer to our left back problems that's for sure.
A tad optimistic. I was thinking more like a sundial, once a day and only when the sun is out? I think if he plays a more forward role is probably the sensible option?


Title: Re: Arsenal U21s (h) EFL Trophy 27/8
Post by: guest2677 on August 29, 2019, 08:14:25 am
A tad optimistic. I was thinking more like a sundial, once a day and only when the sun is out? I think if he plays a more forward role is probably the sensible option?
Further forward definitely. He put in some of the most abject individual defensive performances I've seen when playing under JFH.