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Title: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 27, 2019, 13:17:16 pm
For some reason I've got a very good feeling about this one.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: memyhead on September 27, 2019, 13:47:44 pm
This is a game we should win IF the whole squad has the right mentality & to quote DA "show some a r s e h o l e"

If we just turn up a la Macc, could be a difficult afternoon...


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: EB Claret on September 27, 2019, 14:18:04 pm
For some reason I've got a very good feeling about this one.

I haven't !
(Someone had to say it) ;)


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 27, 2019, 14:20:35 pm
For some reason I've got a very good feeling about this one.

Synchronised ironing with Baldy?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Bingers on September 27, 2019, 17:53:12 pm
For some reason I've got a very good feeling about this one.

Don't get too excited about it, it is a rare outing for myself and the Bingers Boys will be accompanying me - although one meeting us there as I have managed to get him to leave home, which is nice.  I don't have a good record over the years.

Having said that, my last game saw us score 5, so you never know.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on September 27, 2019, 18:06:19 pm
In 12 games this season, the first 75 minutes has seen us score 13 goals and conceded just 5. By complete contrast in the last 15 minutes of the games we have scored just once and conceded 9 times.

It is quite obvious where the problems lay, whether this is due to overall fitness, too many ageing players or just poor tactics and game management.
Whatever the reason it is clear that KC should consider his substitutions carefully tomorrow.

I suggest maybe substitute ageing legs with greater energy especially in midfield during the latter stages of the game.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Bingers on September 27, 2019, 18:13:56 pm
In 12 games this season, the first 75 minutes has seen us score 13 goals and conceded just 5. By complete contrast in the last 15 minutes of the games we have scored just once and conceded 9 times.



Cheers for that, I think I will leave early and then not look out for the final result.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 27, 2019, 18:23:05 pm
0714 train from Northampton, not getting back until 2248......long day! It had better be worth it!!

First visit to the Globe since we won 3-1 there the last day of the Johnson season.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: NTFC87 on September 27, 2019, 19:16:50 pm
I will be there first away game of the season for me looking forward to it


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 27, 2019, 19:30:11 pm
0-1 is the guaranteed result this week.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 27, 2019, 19:38:36 pm
I cant be there, as I have been diagnosed with gout of the knee this week. And it seriously hurts. I hate getting old...


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: sixfields starling on September 27, 2019, 20:53:49 pm
Really looking forward to it, hopefully won't be disappointed .Need to bring back 3 points to keep this little run of form going and to get up a head of steam. This team is more than capable and must put in the type of performance shown against the better sides.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Clarity on September 28, 2019, 00:24:21 am
I cant be there, as I have been diagnosed with gout of the knee this week. And it seriously hurts. I hate getting old...
Double ouch... fellow sufferer here for you with advice if needed


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Manwork04 on September 28, 2019, 10:31:33 am
0-1 is the guaranteed result this week.
Iím in £50 large on this, donít let me down Melly 😳


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 11:04:16 am
Iím in £50 large on this, donít let me down Melly 😳
Relax Manny, my finely tuned Acorah influenced skills are honed, primed and ready to pay off. You just worry about how you are going to spend all that cash!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 11:06:31 am
I cant be there, as I have been diagnosed with gout of the knee this week. And it seriously hurts. I hate getting old...

Donít you mean arthritis as gout normally manifestís first in the toes. Your new diet will be fun!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 11:15:24 am
I cant be there, as I have been diagnosed with gout of the knee this week. And it seriously hurts. I hate getting old...
Ah, the "Disease of Kings", bet that makes you feel better? Hope it clears up soon Kid, have to get on the salad and off the beer, in other words non stop Mardi Gras?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 12:30:44 pm
Donít you mean arthritis as gout normally manifestís first in the toes. Your new diet will be fun!
I prefer my GPs diagnosis to yours.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 12:34:16 pm
Ah, the "Disease of Kings", bet that makes you feel better? Hope it clears up soon Kid, have to get on the salad and off the beer, in other words non stop Mardi Gras?
Non stop rabbit food. I cant wait... ;D


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 12:35:12 pm
The tide's in, is that an omen?  :o


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Clarity on September 28, 2019, 12:52:11 pm
Donít you mean arthritis as gout normally manifestís first in the toes. Your new diet will be fun!
You can definitely get it in your knee Iíve had it several times. In fact you can get it in any joint on the body. Iíve even had gouty tophus (Uric Acid) on my outer ear!
 


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 13:40:54 pm
I prefer my GPs diagnosis to yours.

 ;D So would I ;)


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 13:52:10 pm
Morecambe is full of Claret... 


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 14:05:49 pm
Morecambe is full of Claret... 
A good few on the train from Lancaster at 1120...even a local commented that it was nice to see so many away fans!!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 14:07:25 pm
Cobblers: Cornell, Harriman, Goode, Wharton, Martin, Turnbull, Lines, McWilliams, Hoskins, Adams, Williams.

Subs: Fisher, Hall-Johnson, Pollock, Roberts, Warburton, Oliver, Smith.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:08:43 pm
For some reason I've got a very good feeling about this one.
I haven't


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:09:40 pm
I haven't !
(Someone had to say it) ;)
Well played EB


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Clarity on September 28, 2019, 15:09:58 pm
I haven't
Iím not sure


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:21:12 pm
Get in there!!!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 15:21:50 pm
Super Jordan Turnbull!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:22:43 pm
Super Jordan Turnbull!
He's the greatest!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:26:09 pm
Iím not sure
Im sure I havent


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:29:31 pm
Goode booked


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 15:29:55 pm
Set pieces r us!

Yellow for Goode....1 game bam?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:33:00 pm
Im sure I havent
CJ's been worried sick!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:34:41 pm
CJ's been worried sick!
he's a worrier..make no mistake


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 15:36:28 pm
What's gone wrong at Salford. Didn't they spend any money in the summer?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:37:13 pm
I truly believe theres a 2nd goal in us..


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 15:37:57 pm
I truly believe theres a 2nd goal in us..
I'm glad you said that Doc!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:38:51 pm
I'm glad you said that Doc!
;D right on cue


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:39:13 pm
I truly believe theres a 2nd goal in us..
So do I.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:41:43 pm
Turnbulls quality..2 great goals


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dr Feelgood on September 28, 2019, 15:43:13 pm
I truly believe theres a 3rd goal in us


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 15:44:30 pm
I truly believe theres a 3rd goal in us
I don't


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 28, 2019, 15:49:27 pm
A one on one aside which Cornell saved. Morecambe have offered little.

Should be a comfortable 3 points from 2-0 up....


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 15:59:58 pm
Header off the bar by Williams too. Weíve barely been troubled.

Their players are too busy assaulting the lineswoman!!

Great Little Eric halftime entertainment though!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:05:10 pm
Curle going for it...Harriman off and Smith on at half time!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: bungle on September 28, 2019, 16:09:23 pm
Curle going for it...Harriman off and Smith on at half time!



Very odd substitution on the face of it, especially as Hall-Johnson is on the bench as a replacement full back. Looks like a 5-3-2 with Hoskins as left wing-back and Adams on the right. Interesting. 


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:12:36 pm
My crystal balls on the blink again, Manny is going to shout at me? We could get 4 here?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:22:17 pm
Adams hits the bar, keeper nowhere...


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Saint Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:22:47 pm
We were 2 up against Crawley.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:23:40 pm
Hall-Johnson on for Williams...


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 16:26:55 pm
Hall-Johnson on for Williams...
What a strange way to replace a striker and a right back with like for like!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 16:31:12 pm
2-1 bollox.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 16:31:39 pm
Here we go again?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 16:32:01 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: southofthecounty on September 28, 2019, 16:35:19 pm
Here we go again?
Surely not. I mean it can't keep happening can it?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:35:32 pm
Hoof to Smith....hoof to Smith....waste some time....hoof to Smith...


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Saint Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:35:47 pm
95th minute equaliser anyone?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:38:53 pm
We were defending from the front until Williams went off, now itís starting 10 yards inside our own half.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: DMarrio on September 28, 2019, 16:41:03 pm
Someone needs to tell Keith that the best form of defence is attack as we get comfortable then stop attacking and think we can see a game out by defending for the next half. We can't expect not to concede sitting back and letting the opposition come with attack after attack.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:43:28 pm
Cornell keeps us in front.....

Morecambe at least try and play football, even if theyíre not very good!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:50:27 pm
10 minutes added time after a Lino injury


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2019, 16:52:06 pm
We could still lose this...
10 minutes added time after a Lino injury
Not the bird though GPC.
2-2 we could still lose this, theres enough time.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 16:52:11 pm
2-2 FFS.......


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2019, 16:52:20 pm
Sweet Jesus!!!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 28, 2019, 16:52:51 pm
Still 6 minutes to play.  Wouldn't bet against a winner


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: WasRambo on September 28, 2019, 16:53:28 pm
Ffs. Again

How many do we need to score to win a game?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Manwork04 on September 28, 2019, 16:54:01 pm
Curles tactics AGAIN FFS


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Saint Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 16:56:00 pm
Pathetic


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: NTFC Nut on September 28, 2019, 16:57:55 pm
If we knew how to close a game out we'd be sat in a playoff spot this evening. That to me is in equal parts encouraging and infuriating. We're not too far away and I think wholesale changes to the management / squad risks throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Some carefully considered tweaks required in January.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 17:01:32 pm
Sit back and squander. Its becoming an issue.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:01:37 pm
This is down to the substitutions. Lost our rhythm and shape. What happened to if it ainít broke donít fix it?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:04:21 pm
Sit back and squander. Its becoming an issue.

Half an hour of sitting back inviting pressure, start playing again at 2-2, not good enough!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 28, 2019, 17:04:34 pm
I saw Ellison come on and was about to comment "here were go" but before I could even type the words he'd scored!

Doing the same thing two weeks in a row is a bit much, isn't it?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: barton cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:05:01 pm
I'll say it again, we are not as fit as a lot of teams in this division. Lack of skill you can accept but there is no excuse for lack of fitness.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: 1971cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:05:49 pm
So how many stoppage time goals have we conceded already this season?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Manwork04 on September 28, 2019, 17:06:19 pm
This is down to the substitutions. Lost our rhythm and shape. What happened to if it ainít broke donít fix it?
Exactly why the fook did he take Williams off !  11 players in the penalty area desperately hoofing the ball away, we were playing Morecambe FFS they were terrible and should have won it in the end.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Manwork04 on September 28, 2019, 17:14:51 pm
Weíve conceded 5 goals in the 75 - 90 mins scoring 0.
I think itís an eclectic mix of tactics and fitness.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: corno_ntfc on September 28, 2019, 17:18:41 pm
What the tactical plan for the last 30 minutes was I'll never know.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Boot and shoe on September 28, 2019, 17:19:00 pm
FOR F**Ks SAKE


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:21:03 pm
Exactly why the fook did he take Williams off !  11 players in the penalty area desperately hoofing the ball away, we were playing Morecambe FFS they were terrible and should have won it in the end.

I think he did it because Morecambe had a couple of breakaways just before, but at least we were still having chances too. After the substitution it became one way traffic and we just let them have the ball for wave after wave of attacks, as we have done so many times before in recent years and we practically always concede. Will our management and players ever learn from this. Then, after they'd equalised, we decided to start playing again and could have won the game. Infuriating.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:26:15 pm
I'll say it again, we are not as fit as a lot of teams in this division. Lack of skill you can accept but there is no excuse for lack of fitness.

I think there is substance in what Barton is saying but KC's negative tactics when we lead and his baffling substitutions have also to be called into question. 


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 17:30:57 pm
I think there is substance in what Barton is saying but KC's negative tactics when we lead and his baffling substitutions have also to be called into question. 
Absolutely.
Just go for three, and then pass around, instead of sitting back. We clearly cannot hang on to a two goal lead.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 17:33:34 pm
I think there is substance in what Barton is saying but KC's negative tactics when we lead and his baffling substitutions have also to be called into question. 

According to Commentators it was not fitness. I deplore the childish comments of those not there; just await the comments from those actually there


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:43:43 pm
Fitness is an issue, they canít play with intensity for 90.
That said I think itís more to do with a defensive mindset and instructions from the bench.
I saw Curle telling Adams not to take a quick free kick when we were 2-0 up, motioning to slow things down...
We went all back into the 18 yard box, hoofing it out to nobody and it comes straight back...then when itís 2-2 we start pushing forward again and had chances to win at the death.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2019, 17:44:03 pm
Four points thrown away from two goal leads in successive weeks. That is **** poor. Canít be blowing a two goal lead to a side as poor as Morecambe, thatís unacceptable.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 17:45:35 pm
According to Commentators it was not fitness. I deplore the childish comments of those not there; just await the comments from those actually there
Youre off again.. ::)


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 17:47:00 pm
Decent summary by KC no excuses but fed up with players playing too deep after extended delay.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:47:43 pm
This is the 5th time this season (including Swansea) that we have conceded costly late, late goals so if it is not fitness then it is the negative tactics employed in defending a lead and the use of substitutes.  There can be only one person responsible for that. Question Everbrite - why invite opposition sides on on to you and defend in and from the edge of your penalty area?  You don't have to have been at Morecambe or been at the game against Crawley to comment on that.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:48:01 pm
Yet another soft long range shot for their 1st that Cornell was no where near! Thought Curle cost us the game again though and with his tactics just donít see us going up. Looked comfortable at half time and started 2nd half brightly enough but big mistake to take off McWilliams, we lost control of mid field after that and with Williams taken off as well no closing down up top. Even at 2-0 we didnít look convincing.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:51:07 pm
Youre off again.. ::)

Surprise surprise!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 17:54:36 pm
Youre off again.. ::)

If you are enjoy half baked juvenile comments from those who should know better - so be it. I enjoy decent comments from anybody. You should be above sniping comments!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 17:57:12 pm
Decent summary by KC no excuses but fed up with players playing too deep after extended delay.

Well perhaps he should shout at them or get instructions to them to get out then, rather than stand there with his arms folded. Do you think they sit back, Hoof the ball, and waste time because they just feel like doing it??


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: barton cobbler on September 28, 2019, 18:02:19 pm
I enjoy decent comments from anybody.
This is what you said 20 minutes ago  "I deplore the childish comments of those not there; just await the comments from those actually there"
So which is it ??


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 18:20:27 pm
Surprise surprise!
Evers is a hypocrite of the highest order. You do not need to be present, in order to formulate an opinion.
I note from some of his previous posts, that he was a former clergyman. If in the past, he has offered an opinion from the bible, then it cannot be valid, as he WAS NOT PRESENT.
Indeed the arrogant one attempted to tell me, earlier in this post , that my GPs diagnosis on my medical condition was incorrect. Who the fcuk does he think he is?
Apologies for ranting mods, but this would be a far better board in his absence.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on September 28, 2019, 18:36:22 pm
Cobblers this season

1- 15 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 2
16-30 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 3
31-45 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 1
46-60 mins   Cobblers 1 Opponents 0
61-75 mins   Cobblers 5 Opponents 3
76-90 mins   Cobblers 1 Opponents 9

Now tell me why we can't compete in the last 15 minutes of games if it's not about either

a)   fitness
b)  crap substitutions
c)   inexplicable tactics


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: defender on September 28, 2019, 18:40:31 pm
we let a two nil lead slip just not good rnough.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 18:54:40 pm
Cobblers this season
No tell me why we can't compete in the last 15 minutes of games if it's not about either

a)   fitness
b)  crap substitutions
c)   inexplicable tactics
In my opinion, A+B speak for themselves, C equates to predictable tactics. Get a lead, and sit back deeper and deeper. And invite pressure. And fail.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Macc Cobbler on September 28, 2019, 19:22:31 pm
To be honest we were not very good in the first half, it was just that Morecambe were really poor.
Second half, if Harriman was not injured could not understand the substitution. We were fully in control.
The second substitution cost us dear .... Simply inviting Morecambe on to us; bringing on Oliver would have been the better option.
Both goals conceded  were really poor.
And yes, we should have got a winner at the end, so why did we not play with the same urgency throughout the second half.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: cobblerwatch on September 28, 2019, 20:11:47 pm
To be honest we were not very good in the first half, it was just that Morecambe were really poor.
Second half, if Harriman was not injured could not understand the substitution. We were fully in control.
The second substitution cost us dear .... Simply inviting Morecambe on to us; bringing on Oliver would have been the better option.
Both goals conceded  were really poor.
And yes, we should have got a winner at the end, so why did we not play with the same urgency throughout the second half.


Good summary - to add I thought their first goal (similar to our second) was very poor goalkeeping (with or without a slight deflection)

The last 6 mins were as you say a real puzzle - played like that the previous 20 mins and there was only one winner probably by more than the two.

Unfortunately I think tactics including substitutions and a tendency not to resist a defensive approach suggest very strongly to me KC will rarely get a team relegated but equally not get one promoted.

Without being exceptional we should clearly have 4 more points on the board with just a little more managerial skill.

So are the players capable? - probably, but can the manager implement it? 


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 20:19:11 pm
This is what you said 20 minutes ago  "I deplore the childish comments of those not there; just await the comments from those actually there"
So which is it ??

?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 20:25:05 pm
Evers is a hypocrite of the highest order. You do not need to be present, in order to formulate an opinion.
I note from some of his previous posts, that he was a former clergyman. If in the past, he has offered an opinion from the bible, then it cannot be valid, as he WAS NOT PRESENT.
Indeed the arrogant one attempted to tell me, earlier in this post , that my GPs diagnosis on my medical condition was incorrect. Who the fcuk does he think he is?
Apologies for ranting mods, but this would be a far better board in his absence.

Knowing your history that is a gob smacking comment. Clergyman - really. You made a sniping comment which you do quite often so take a cup of tea and calm down.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 20:31:34 pm
To be honest we were not very good in the first half, it was just that Morecambe were really poor.
Second half, if Harriman was not injured could not understand the substitution. We were fully in control.
The second substitution cost us dear .... Simply inviting Morecambe on to us; bringing on Oliver would have been the better option.
Both goals conceded  were really poor.
And yes, we should have got a winner at the end, so why did we not play with the same urgency throughout the second half.


Well done Macc first decent match report this evening. Commentators (Martin Smith) thought that bringing on Smith to partner Williams was a reasonable move and was intended to give more impetus up front.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 20:36:55 pm
Cobblers this season

1- 15 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 2
16-30 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 3
31-45 mins   Cobblers 3 Opponents 1
46-60 mins   Cobblers 1 Opponents 0
61-75 mins   Cobblers 5 Opponents 3
76-90 mins   Cobblers 1 Opponents 9

Now tell me why we can't compete in the last 15 minutes of games if it's not about either

a)   fitness
b)  crap substitutions
c)   inexplicable tactics

Did you listen to Turnbulls after match comments seemed to contradict a to c?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on September 28, 2019, 20:41:58 pm
He's hardly going to criticize his manager is he?  Not in public anyway.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: SadOldGit on September 28, 2019, 20:45:05 pm
everbrite is a charlatan. He has nothing to recommend him. No knowledge, no insight, no intelligence. Either that or he is an AI invention to unsettle the good and the wise. Best thing is to ignore the fella.

Considering the time Curle has spent in his occupation it is extraordinary that he makes so stupid and regular mistakes as he does. I am beginning to think he seeks out mediocrity because it keeps him in employment. Morecambe were a pretty awful side and yet 2 goals up we still managed to lose grip of the game and not for the first time this season.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 20:49:20 pm
From the Morecambe messageboard...

ĎNot sure why Northampton shut up shop for the entire second half when they had us on toast for the first. Nice to see a bit of fight from us but Northampton got what they deserved for sitting back. Ď

ĎThey sat back straight from kick off. Hoskins was causing problems in the first half but hardly got past the half way line in the second. Adams was the same on the right hand side. Ď

Ď wouldn't say I was critical of Morecambe but thought Northampton threw it away. Northampton invited us on and we took the opportunity and got a draw. There is no need to get carried away though, it is 3pts from 18 at home.í

They could see it as it was! There you go Evers, factual reports from people who were there!!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: spqr on September 28, 2019, 20:51:53 pm
Football has moved on so much.

If only we had a forward who is a genuine target man who can hold the ball and flick it on to players running through. Richard Hill, played on by Ian Benjamin, would have scored freely.

Balls were played that were headed on to nobody or went into areas where there was no danger because there were no players parallel with the furthest man forward.  Balls needed to be headed back to players coming through.

Standing behind the goal in Morecambe's home end I actually missed Ellison's goal. As the Morecambe player crossed the ball it clearly hit Hoskin's arm and the home end shouted 'Hand Ball'.  I looked to the linesman and he did not signal to the ref and the ref played on.  A free kick might have been cleared, but we will never know.

The feeling was that Turnball's second goal should have been saved.  Likewise I did wonder how Morecambe's first goal went in.  Cornell must have been unsighted as he did not move.

Perhaps the video highlights will show more.

Morecambe stepped up the game and the Cobblers could not cope with it.  They look too soft.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 20:58:22 pm
He's hardly going to criticize his manager is he?

Of course not,  if anything he seemed to imply that it it was up to the players not to play on the back foot. Strange that they should play more on the front foot in added time and not in the last 15mins.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 21:00:48 pm
everbrite is a charlatan. He has nothing to recommend him. No knowledge, no insight, no intelligence. Either that or he is an AI invention to unsettle the good and the wise. Best thing is to ignore the fella.

Considering the time Curle has spent in his occupation it is extraordinary that he makes so stupid and regular mistakes as he does. I am beginning to think he seeks out mediocrity because it keeps him in employment. Morecambe were a pretty awful side and yet 2 goals up we still managed to lose grip of the game and not for the first time this season.

Super stuff ::)


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 28, 2019, 21:07:02 pm
Knowing your history that is a gob smacking comment. Clergyman - really. You made a sniping comment which you do quite often so take a cup of tea and calm down.
Are you saying that you were not a former clergyman. Answer yes or no.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 21:37:39 pm
From the Morecambe messageboard...

ĎNot sure why Northampton shut up shop for the entire second half when they had us on toast for the first. Nice to see a bit of fight from us but Northampton got what they deserved for sitting back. Ď

ĎThey sat back straight from kick off. Hoskins was causing problems in the first half but hardly got past the half way line in the second. Adams was the same on the right hand side. Ď

Ď wouldn't say I was critical of Morecambe but thought Northampton threw it away. Northampton invited us on and we took the opportunity and got a draw. There is no need to get carried away though, it is 3pts from 18 at home.í

They could see it as it was! There you go Evers, factual reports from people who were there!!

Not sure why you are so eager to profess actual reports.  The comment from their board rings true and clearly I don't disagree with it. Once again I support comments from most supporters whether there or not. Presumably I am allowed to comment/disagree  on the throw away negative remarks by just a few on here (operative word is few) which seem to occur on an disappointing result.  Bet you a few quid that if they resisted commenting for an hour after the final whistle a more intelligible comment might be forthcoming. However KC has his detractors on here so not a minute is wasted to 'tell you so'. Not sure if you get my drift tho'.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 21:47:36 pm
Are you saying that you were not a former clergyman. Answer yes or no.

No idea why you come on here to brandish that comment. Have never alluded to that exalted office.  As you have a reputation for being a super sleuth am at a loss how to answer your query especially when I suspect that you already know the answer.. Other than that I am tempted to ask 'if you are ok'.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 28, 2019, 21:52:03 pm
Not sure why you are so eager to profess actual reports.  The comment from their board rings true and clearly I don't disagree with it. Once again I support comments from most supporters whether there or not. Presumably I am allowed to comment/disagree  on the throw away negative remarks by just a few on here (operative word is few) which seem to occur on an disappointing result.  Bet you a few quid that if they resisted commenting for an hour after the final whistle a more intelligible comment might be forthcoming. However KC has his detractors on here so not a minute is wasted to 'tell you so'. Not sure if you get my drift tho'.

Because you wanted to wait to hear from people who were there, youíve had our thoughts and now youíve had theirs too....pretty similar donít you think?

Curle is as negative a manager as I can remember...at least under Atkins there was fight.
Morecambe tried to play football today, knocked it around on the ground as much as they knocked it long. You just know that once we sit back and invite pressure then we will lose points, even to a team who are without a home win all season, and at the time bottom of the live table. We couldnít hold out.

Attack is the best form of defence, why not try and go for 3 or 4 rather than change it all about? The subs were bizarre and ill timed, their subs came on and scored the two goals.
When Curle is outthought by Jim Bentley you know heís got problems...plenty told him so at the end too, some of the criticism of the players was a bit rough, Adams looked visibly shocked by the reaction.....

Hey ho....we go again!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: NTFC87 on September 28, 2019, 22:14:58 pm
Little bit annoying 2 up again but still got the point better than none but had to persuade lines to come over at the end of game to shake my hand before Adkin what the fcuk happened


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: sixfields starling on September 28, 2019, 22:17:59 pm
A strange game today, 2-0 up at half time, also having hit the bar and yet we hadn't played that well. Morecambe were awful and you could only see one winner. The first substitution at half time puzzled me at the time, yet from then we started to play quite well. Smith and Willo were linking up well together, with some nice lay offs and thought Adams should really have scored when he hit he bar and that was the game changer. They had a couple of breaks, although we were coping with them and getting back, but i think KC saw this as a threat and took  Willo off and the game changed completely. We never got forward after that and the inevitable happened. Once pegged back we started to play again, Hall- Johnson nearly scored and Sam hit the bar. Very,very frustrating, we play good football at times when we need too, the worrying thing is it seems we need 3 goals to be safe, as once the first goes in against us, we seem to panic. Hopefully McCormack will be that calming influence, because that's 4 points dropped in the last 2 games alone.    


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 28, 2019, 22:38:35 pm
Because you wanted to wait to hear from people who were there, youíve had our thoughts and now youíve had theirs too....pretty similar donít you think?

Curle is as negative a manager as I can remember...at least under Atkins there was fight.
Morecambe tried to play football today, knocked it around on the ground as much as they knocked it long. You just know that once we sit back and invite pressure then we will lose points, even to a team who are without a home win all season, and at the time bottom of the live table. We couldnít hold out.

Attack is the best form of defence, why not try and go for 3 or 4 rather than change it all about? The subs were bizarre and ill timed, their subs came on and scored the two goals.
When Curle is outthought by Jim Bentley you know heís got problems...plenty told him so at the end too, some of the criticism of the players was a bit rough, Adams looked visibly shocked by the reaction.....

Hey ho....we go again!

A visit to their forum suggests that Morecambe just about deserved their point if only for a gritty 2nd half performance. The report said it was a much improved performance against decent opposition(strange comment that ::))  Martin Smith gave a few decent hints at our midfield display - for example they allowed Buxton to move inside and get the ball onto his right foot when they should have channeled him to ensure that did not reoccur. I don't disagree with the majority of your comments except I am not sure we have the players in the problem areas to do that. One member on here suggested we are still only 3 points from the play offs so plenty of time for improvement ! Also I do not share your erstwhile opinion of Curle  - I liked quite a few of his sides recent displays and even more the win at Stevenage. Mostly its all about opinions some are ok others are just plain silly.

https://morecambe.vitalfootball.co.uk/m ... pton-town/


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Boot and shoe on September 29, 2019, 09:06:08 am
Fitness is an issue, they canít play with intensity for 90.
That said I think itís more to do with a defensive mindset and instructions from the bench.
I saw Curle telling Adams not to take a quick free kick when we were 2-0 up, motioning to slow things down...
We went all back into the 18 yard box, hoofing it out to nobody and it comes straight back...then when itís 2-2 we start pushing forward again and had chances to win at the death.
Spot on .
I said this after last weeks defeat . We have some ageing players who are being asked to play a highly intense game . We visibly tire after 75 minutes and the statistics illustrate that .
Curle needs to explain why we concede so many goals in the last quarter .


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Clarity on September 29, 2019, 09:41:53 am
Spot on .
I said this after last weeks defeat . We have some ageing players who are being asked to play a highly intense game . We visibly tire after 75 minutes and the statistics illustrate that .
Curle needs to explain why we concede so many goals in the last quarter .
We didnít lose last week


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: west stand oap on September 29, 2019, 11:42:24 am
I believe that Turnball has now 5 yellow cards from league games and as such has a 1 match suspension.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 29, 2019, 11:52:57 am
I believe that Turnball has now 5 yellow cards from league games and as such has a 1 match suspension.

Correct, and Goode is also one yellow away from suspension too...cut off period in four games time.

EDIT: The cut off has actually increased this season...to 19 games.  So if Goode picks up a yellow in the next EIGHT games he'll also miss one. Sam Hoskins is next with three so far. As a team we have received more yellow cards than any other team in the division.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: CJ on September 29, 2019, 12:01:53 pm
And Williams just went out on loan.
How does that work?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: barton cobbler on September 29, 2019, 15:52:45 pm
And Williams just went out on loan.
How does that work?
I thought that was strange timing, did KC realise that both were near to a ban ?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: everbrite on September 29, 2019, 16:57:13 pm
Spot on .
I said this after last weeks defeat .

 ;D
Possibly the quote of the week - do you actually go to any games or just sit behind a computer to give some sort of diatribe on KC?


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: Boot and shoe on September 29, 2019, 20:38:42 pm
We didnít lose last week
I beg your pardon Clarity , I meant draw -it just felt like a defeat !
Everbrite , please stop acting like a complete c*ck on here and stop personally attacking people. Do yourself and everyone else a favour and bore off for a while .


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 29, 2019, 20:51:33 pm
Kevin Ellison, so often a thorn in our side....but I didnít realise just how old he is...!
Heíll be 41 in February.....fair play to him for keeping fit and still being able to pop up with important goals!


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: FSTH on September 30, 2019, 13:15:27 pm
I met and had a chat with Kevin Ellison at the M6 services before the game. Full of enthusiasm, not ready to retire yet, loves the training, and to talk to, a really nice guy. He offered an apology for how he reacts on the pitch, but said that's all part of his game (I told him not to worry about that, we all love something to get excited about). I for one would like to see him carry on for a couple of more seasons, the game needs people like him, I just wish he would stop scoring against us.


Title: Re: Mauling The Morecambe A 28th Sept
Post by: 1971cobbler on September 30, 2019, 13:43:08 pm
;D
Possibly the quote of the week - do you actually go to any games or just sit behind a computer to give some sort of diatribe on KC?

YAWN!
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