The Hotel End

I didn’t realise that Turnbull is suspended for this one (and Goode is 1 booking off too) - a big blow in a must win game. I would have thought the options are either to bring McCormack back in (unlikely to be thrown straight in even if he is “fit”) or warburton back in with lines and McWilliams sitting a bit deeper. I can’t help but feel that we need more out of lines, Adams (and warburton) as they’ve all been a bit disappointing.

Turnbull out and Goode one booking away from a ban makes the decision to send Williams out on loan an odd one .
I assume he could come back at any time and McCormack must be fit otherwise we are very exposed .

probably turnbull will just replace good when he is suspended

or williams has gone out to get some football so he is ready to slot in when needed?!

It doesn’t sound like McCormack will be back as they have “slightly changed his return to playing structure” whatever that’s supposed to mean - at this rate it will be a toss up between him at Watson to see who comes back first. I assume this would mean warburton will come back in unless he goes with kaja (if he’s fit) and move Hoskins more central.

I take the changing his return to playing structure as he is being fast-tracked to a playing return. Would we get 90 minutes out of him though? Or maybe he'd come on to shore things up if we're winning with say 20 minutes to go.

Will be an emotional day with the Justin Edinburgh tributes.

Indeed . JED was a decent bloke and did try to understand what the club was about unlike Page and JFH.

I agree about JED and often wonder if the Chinese put pressure on to get a bigger name (JFH) in? JED showed at Newport and Orient that he knew what he was doing.

He did lose his way but may have been influenced by a strong dressing room at the time .
He signed some good players though and connected with the supporters better than anyone since wilder I think . The squad was very in balanced though

chatted to him for about 15 mins once before a game - you could tell he was very passionate about the game, just loved it and wanted to succeed.

We'll be 2 up with 10 mins left. Curlio will make his famous subs and we'll end up drawing 2-2..

                         i am having some problems here how are we doing??

sorry, i forgot......its Friday today.!!!!!

;D ;D

Can you get a train to Leyton Buzzard?

The word from the other side 2-0 triumph over the Orient.

3-3...99th minute equaliser for the O's

Goode out with illness which is a massive blow with Turnbull suspended - I assume it will have to be hall-Johnson or Martin at centre back, either way it weakens us.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGHdYArXkAAvie5.jpg)

J Williams on loan at Kettering who have no game this afternoon?

2-1 to the O's I'm afraid

A rumour is going round that we’ve re-signed Paul Anderson - a big of a strange one if true as he wasn’t that good first time.

defender!!! Was has been worried sick.

Shopping in the reduced to clear bin again.....

He's the greatest

;D

Orient hit the bar...

They hit the post earlier as well...Im starting to get a horrible feeling here..

I'm not

So bad, I have no idea how we’re level. The defence are doing ok but all of the midfield are appalling and the forwards are living off scraps. Matter of time if he doesn’t change it.

That was a shocking half of “football” comedy defending coupled with Curles dreadful hoof ball up to the useless Smith, terrible.

You can see why Curlio has never taken a team up.

His tactics are shocking.

He never will either Dr, he’s had 17 attempts

I’d go McCormack for the invisible lines and warburton for Smith, but you can guarantee he won’t change it until we go a goal down.

Hope it picks up this half, the paint on my wall is nearly dry.

No changes at HT.

Right lets get the ironing started...

Afternoon

Not particularly inspiring?

Good man. Get stuck in!

Dont worry, I bring a goal with me always.

Let's hope its for us.....

Ooops

Sack 'em all!!!

Awful.

Maybe we'll score in the 96th min this week..

Triple sub..Curlio is going for it...

I truly believe there is a goal in us..

Can you muster two plz?

I don't

Two strikers and a midfielder on for two strikers and a midfielder! Yep, really going for it!

Come on Town I've got £80 to collect if you equalise.

Total gash

Eh up Gentlemen, that's the wood chopped up for the week have I missed anything?

0-1 FT

We're going nowhere with Clown Curle at the helm..

s***e!

Apparently not.  Oh well, life goes on...…..

That sounded shocking.
Clueless.

Please just fcuk off Curle, that was utter shyte, compounded by his mindless tactics and substitutions.
Promotion hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

And while I’m at it take Hall Johnson and Smith with you.

On a positive note we were missing our 2 best players. Unfortunately without them the downside is we are truly woeful. That was back to the dark days of recent seasons when we just didn’t want to put in a shift. Completely unacceptable I’m afraid.

Based on that, forget any optimism about the the top 7 and worry about finishing 24th. That was atrocious.

Positive note?! Lol

Meanwhile the U18’s secure another good win (5-0), down the road Brackley have won their last 3 3-0, 8-0 and 2-0, and we have boring old Curle in charge.

The bloke is a dinosaur.

Leon Barnet thinks we think we are better than we are.
Does that mean he thinks we are s***e, and we should get used to it?

Well I thought our performance couldn’t get any worse and then we got the managers interview. He’s not doing himself any favours with that is he?

Nope.
Curle says It's all Goodes fault for crying off late.
That's alright then?

I’ve tried to get behind KC as much as possible but that was indefensible. Lines and Adams are nicking livings at the moment and smith looks green as grass. KC was trying to make out that Goode being out meant a big reshuffle but effectively it was like for like with Hall-Johnson just coming in for him (I know they are completely different players but I though H-J was ok) - it didn’t excuse the complete shambles going forward.

I thought we won and lost as a team and he didn't call players out...........!!

I think we have got some players that are not up to scratch. This league looks a step too far fr Warburton at the minute. Smith isn’t good enough, Lines appears anonymous. When you have got a lot of passengers and  then lose your best players you are going to implode.

Curle using excuses. Surely not  ;D

That was f***ing atrocious and Curle is clueless.

Orient are a poor side, they were there for the taking and we made them look like a half decent side. They are not.

It’s been pretty poor all season, glad I missed today. However, looking forward to watching Horsham on Tuesday evening, actually enjoy the attacking play. Curle good learn something from watching them. Still he’ll be gone by the end of the season if not before. No way should he be getting a contract extension. Hoskins can go with him as well as Smith etc etc, going nowhere this season but the writing was on the wall even before a ball was kicked. All very silent from Everbrite I see!

Shhhush. Don't tempt fate.

Poor showing. No more excuses Curly. And no more time wasting. This truly is s***e to watch.

Not good today at all both teams I thought were very poor but we just wasn't even at their poor level thought ref was bad everything orient shouted for the ref gave them not blaming the ref we was just no where near good enough today end of

Good point and absolutely not an excuse because we deserved to lose but the ref was shocking - the amount of holding and blatant shirt pulling on Smith and Williams was unbelievable and the longer Orient got away with it of course the more they did - worse ref this season by far.

Thought Orient showed very little quality and we showed none at all. When Smith plays any attempt at passing football goes out the window, I don't know what to suggest we do with him unless the Saints are interested. All he wants to do is stand around grappling with defenders, his lack of movement is shocking, Oliver showed him up in that respect. Cornell and Wharton were the only ones who looked up to the job, the midfield was bypassed, our fullbacks appeared to be standing still when Orient ran at them and our delivery into the box (Adams included) just gave the O's keeper catching practice. Oh yes and Hoskins ran around a lot, well done Sam. We hit a new low today!

A new low today !

The lineup for next week is likely to be very different - Goode, Turnbull, McCormack and Oliver will all be back or have surely done enough to get in which hopefully makes getting a result more possible (and perhaps Anderson will be in unless that is the most random rumour I’ve ever heard at a match). The more worrying thing for me is the complete lack of depth/quality that we seem to have and the alarming form of the likes of Adams, lines, Smith and warburton (a bit unfair on the latter as he is giving his all and needs the chance to adjust to league football). It seemed to rub off on McWilliams today but I still think it was a bit unfair to take him off and leave the completely ineffective lines on.

Anderson!

That was what I was told - hopefully it’s complete bo**ocks as firstly it’s not really a position we need to fill and secondly it’s Paul Anderson.

Paul f***ing Anderson?!

I guess we’ll see in the next few days but why we’d need Anderson on top of kaja, Adams and Hoskins I have no idea, and to be honest I’d rather see Roberts and Pollock get a chance instead. Actually, looking at anderson’s record on Wikipedia it says he scored 6 for us in the season he was here which to be honest isn’t a bad return for a winger, I just recall being pretty underwhelmed.

Omnishambles.

And as if today's performance wasn't bad enough, it's probably worth putting some context into the previous two results, which felt bad enough at the time given we were 2-0 up in both...

Northampton    2-2    Crawley Town
Crawley Town    2-3    Walsall FC (Walsall have since been beaten 3-0 at home by Salford)
Crawley Town    1-2    Norwich U21 (Norwich's youth came into this off the back of 5 straight defeats)
Forest Green    3-1    Crawley Town

Morecambe FC    2-2    Northampton
Port Vale    3-1    Morecambe FC

So, the two teams we blew 2-0 leads against have racked up the following form sequence between them since: LLLL
And conceded 11 goals in the process.

Conclusion: Doomed to mid-table mediocrity at best under Curle

Curle has to be under real scrutiny .
The leading players he has brought In such as Smith , Liines , Warburton and Adams have all under performed . Others haven’t hardly played and the youngsters have been largely ignored .
Why on earth Williams went out on loan this week , who knows !
Player development is virtually non existent and all the focus is on shape and basic low level football you could teach a dog to play

Jeez, I wouldn't want you miserable sods in the trenches with me. It was a scruffy game and either could have won it.
We are going to play a lot worse and win games and you will be all over them.
Up The Cobblers

Really? I can’t see how we could play worse than that - from what I saw there were no positives to be taken particularly from our “attacking efforts”. I notice that KC was at pains to hold his hands up and not attempt to brush over the awful performance (before more or less putting it all dow to Goode being ill) but there was no suggestion of getting them in for extra training.

So much for the "progressive football" promised by Curle at the start of the season.  What we are seeing is the return of hoof-ball and midfield being by-passed. It is ugly, unimaginative and dire to watch. 

The only consolation was that our owner Bower was present with KT to see the fruits of 4 years of their regressive ownership.  The again I don't think for a moment that he is over here for football reasons. That would be expecting too much.  NBC meeting perhaps?

I have been told that the training is poor.
It’s all about recovery and not about improvement of skill levels. The quote I was given is that it’s like going back to the ‘80s.
I am afraid this shows through on the pitch . The coaching at the club , from a first hand source is extremely basic

That absolutely sums up the situation - result will be lower mid table mediocrity, lower gates, poor entertainment, poor development of promising youngsters - KC is taking us nowhere and in football like life, if you stand still you go backwards. Like many I was underwhelmed with the appointment (based on his track record over 16 years of management) - but also knowing we simply could not continue changing had to give him my support - it’s been one year now and sadly I am resigned to a season of indifference but if his contract is renewed or extended at the end of the season I will not be purchasing a ST after 40 plus years of holding one.

Entertainment value yesterday....

Leyton Orient 4
Northampton 3
The crowd 8.

I would bring him back in. Good player if a little aged at 31. Then Matt Harrold did ok yesterday and he is mid thirties.

Orient were the quietest fans in a long, long while...so much so, that combined with the garbage on the pitch, reduced the West Stand (North - non existent yesterday) to a subdued submission within around twenty minutes!

I wasn't referring to the vocal element of the fans. ;)

Spot on .
The football being served up by and large is garbage . It doesn’t have to be that way and quite honestly Curle is hiding. Outdated , unimaginative ,dire football

As I said, he is a dinosaur!

The u18’s have a creative and exciting coach in Brady and are winning game after game whilst scoring goals and playing well.

It is strange there is no connect between the youth setup and the senior setup, instead of seemingly working together they might as well be two different clubs.

It’s no wonder Curle doesn’t play the youth, they don’t play his ‘boring’ style.

Yep . It’s a complete waste while Curle is there .

I said to somebody sitting near me that I could not see what our plan was as we appeared to just hoof the ball forward at every opportunity. In the post match interview KC confirmed that playing hoof ball was indeed the intention, for the strikers to win ariel ball then to win the second ball. Well it did not work as the defenders won more ariel balls than our strikers and the balls we got our heads to you could count the number of second balls we won on the fingers of one finger. This also goes some way to explain why only one team in the division has a worse % of completed passes than us.
With no disrespect intended to the lad if you see Smith's name on the team sheet you know what type of game you are in for. Yes he gets held a lot by defenders but he also gives away a lot of free kicks. There was an instance in the second half when we had a free kick just outside the penalty area that as soon as the kick was taken immediately gave away a free kick.
Apparently Goode's illness completely upset the balance of the side so that will explain the lack of midfield creativaty and sterile attack.
How many times did send free kicks and crosses directly to their keeper who will not have an easier afternoon all season. The only save he had to make was tipping over Wharton's shot in the 82nd minute.
I would say that only Cornell and Wharton came out of that game with an credit. At least when Wharton is on the ball he tries to pick a pass. Remember no team had conceded more goals than Orient and although their defence looked shakey at times we did not look like scoring.
Orient were a poor side but at least they tried to play football. For the goal once the ball was played behind the full back it was inevitable as both of our full backs are outstripped for pace.
An interesting question is with McCormack about to return to the side is what will KC do with Turnbull as surely we do not need 2 defensive midfielders. Will he revert to three centre backs with wing backs?

Anderson for Hoskins all day long.

He could play two defensive midfielders in a two man 'pivot'.

When everyone is fit I'd like to see this set-up:

                      Arnold

Hall-Johnson  Goode  Wharton  Harriman

           McCormack  Turnbull

     Kaja          Watson         Adams

                     Williams

SUBS: Oliver, Lines, Warburton, Hoskins, Martin, McWilliams, Pollock, Cornell

The full-backs would get licence to push forward in this set-up, while I think Kaja, Watson and Adams are would be our best 3 attacking midfielders/wingers.

Smith shouldn't be anywhere near the 18 at the moment, while Hoskins and McWilliams aren't good enough, though Hoskins would still make the bench. Lines needs a period out of the XI as well.

I agree about Lines and Smith, but don't agree about Adams. I think he had a reasonable game yesterday, and couldn't fault his effort at the very least. Smith, McWilliams, Hoskins aren't anywhere neaar good enough for a side that has even the remotest of ambitions on pushing for promotion and Lines isn't at it at all currently. Why Curle persists with Smith when Oliver looks by far the better player god only knows.

I agree that Hall-Johnson was OK, but he's too small for a centre-back really. I'd put him in at right-back and push Harriman to the left in place of Martin.

Yes, can't the ref for the result at all, but it's still worth mentioning how bad he was. I said early into the game he was a weak ref and then he bottled giving their player a red-card for a terrible challenge on Adams. The linesman on the east-stand side was also very poor and was easily influenced by their players calling for decisions. Frustrating stuff.

I called the McWilliams sub 15 minutes before it happened, but Lines should have been taken off as well instead of Williams. Curle should have made the subs at least 10 minutes earlier, if not at least 1 at half-time as it was obvious nothing was working. He got it badly wrong yesterday.

One thing that did surprise me was the booing to William's being subbed. He was as crap as Smith.

He had a poor game, but there's always a chance he can grab a goal, chasing an equaliser at home and take off two strikers, which include your top scorer, and only bring one on? Bizarre decision and the boos weren't out of place at all.

We were very poor yesterday, no doubt about it. KC identified the problems in his post match interview but as usual attached no blame to himself. Of course he is not on the pitch to make the tackles or score the goals, but a lacklustre performance is a reflection of on the management as well as the players, and he NEVER takes the blame for anything. Orient were much more up for it. Our forwards seemed to be fouled regularly without a whisper of complaint to the referee when the Orient players were in his face for any kind of challenge. That's the fighting attitude you need when you're not playing well and it wasn't there yesterday. Why not? Charlie Goode's absence is the kind of thing that can happen to any team and cannot be used as an excuse.

So you would drop Cornell ..... probably our most in form player after Goode ?

Curly should definitely have made changes at half time and it hardly mattered who he took off, apart from Wharton and Cornell everybody else was atrocious.
Isn't Wharton one of those waste of space loan players?

We were poor yesterday and once again the subs were baffling.
Since
Looking at some of the new players in the squad yesterday, they really haven't lived up to the expectations, have they?

Harriman - I seem to remember he said something about being the best full back in the squad. If he really thinks that he's delusional; he's barely the best full back in the squad.

Hall-Johnson - not really fair to judge him on yesterday when out of position, but he's pretty ordinary.

Wharton - pretty good so far.

Martin - bang average.

Adams - still not up to speed yet.

Lines - I've seen him a good few times in the past and rate him as I've seen him dictate play. He's yet to do that for us, but in fairness it must be hard to dictate anything when the ball is sailing over your head 90% of the time.

Smith - the biggest disappointment so far. When it was said that we were about to sign a big striker, I thought "I really hope it's that lad from Macclesfield...." and lo and behold it was. He caused us all sorts of problems but I've yet to see him make any use of his physicality to good advantage.

Oliver - got to be worth a start as he looks a far better option than Smith right now.

McCormack- god knows, but looked ok in a brief cameo yesterday.

Warburton - we all love a bit of romance and a player plucked from non league is a bit Roy of the Rovers, isn't it? I really wanted him to come good and on his debut he showed real promise. He's gone downhill since then and yet yesterday he looked like he'd won a competition to be there.

Quite fitting really that James Brophy should score the winner as the last time he played at Sixfields against the Cobblers was for Swindon when Edinburgh was our manager and although we beat them on the night he gave us the run around and I am sure Edinburgh remembered this performance which may have influenced him signing him for the Os. As I can only comment on the Cobblers from afar in Scouseland the issue as I see it for where the Cobblers will end up this season rests on our ability to core more goals per game and kill teams off. Williams still seems to be our best hope in this respect, all the other alternatives in the shape of Hoskins, Smith, and Oliver have so far lived up to their previous track records elsewhere and not shown the ability to put the ball in the net on a regular basis.

Really feel for Warburton.
Looks like the confidence has been really knocked out of him.


 

Agree, he was put in the starting line up too early without the opportunity of a league 'apprenticeship'. He is now, like someone else described him, looking like a competition winner having probably lost some of his confidence in those early games.
There's a massive difference between National league and the fourth division which cannot always be bridged on (potential) ability alone.

Curle wanted his players in, playing his way . He said it would all change once that happened and we could move forward .
Well, arguably the best three players this season are Goode , Turnbull and Cornell who were all at the club last season . The young players are not coming through at all and the new signings are a big disappointment .

He was sat in front of me on Sat, chatting to Turnbull and Watson. I was told he'd packed in football entirely though...

Edit: having had a quick google, it doesn't look like him and Watson have played together elsewhere. They seemed very chummy on Sat so perhaps he has been training with us

I think he lives fairly local, near Melton Mowbray, so he could be training with us out of convenience.

Anderson was anonymous when he was here before . Why would it be any different now ?

because anyone who isn't in the team is the next saviour of the club...................morais being the most recent one!

Basically we are rubbish.

Where are the young players we were promised would get a go? Why do we keep trying the same things that never work?

Curle Out.

Was not the only ex-player/winger in the crowd on Saturday...Crackers was there too, although I can't see him coming back just yet. ;D

Even if KC hadn’t done his historical work on Brophy the first 10 mins showed he had a yard more pace than our fullbacks - did KC do anything to eliminate this threat? - of course no as we have a manager with tactics based on his playing days and devoid of flexibility or adaptability.

We’ve had quite a few in the last couple of home games - Steve Morison, Gary megson, les Ferdinand - I have no idea why any of them would want to watch, I can only assume they were watching the opposition.

Rumour had it that Les Ferdinand lived in Thrapston, don't know if he still does or ever did

I believe he’s still the director of football at qpr but he definitely looked like he was there as a guest of KT - a bit odd as I’m sure qpr had a match. Perhaps he’s going to be our new DoF (I wouldn’t be adverse to this position being created to be honest - at least it might give us s bit of continuity for the first time ever)!

Ha ha, my mate and I both have wood burners and we said during the game , 'We could be chopping wood rather than watching this shy*te.

In your opinion. Do you really think this? He's certainly not been one of our worst performers but IMO he's been no better than steady, and has rarely had to make significant saves.

To be fair, Oliver hasn't been given a decent run in the team yet. From what I've seen of him though, I think he should be in the team more.

I agree about Smith and Hoskins though.

Harriman - Looks very decent to me, a massive improvement on both of our left and right back options from last season.

Hall-Johnson is primarily a right-back, but he has only played there once for us so far. I thought he looked promising in that game.

Wharton - Looks very decent, has lived up to expectations.

Martin - Agree, he look it on evidence so far, but he's still a big improvement on Buchanan from last season.

Adams - Has been playing reasonably well and has been a decent signing. Unfortunately at times he's having to do too much due to us carrying (IMO) a few passengers.

Lines - Agree, but I'm sure he has some quality and he showed glimpses of this in previous home games. I still expect him to be an important player this season.

Smith - So far poor

Oliver - Looks a very useful player and should be getting more game time.

McCormack - Has hardly played because of injury, but I like the look of him. I think he will be a big player for us this season.

Warburton - Agree, but I still think he can come good.

Watson - Had put in some excellent performances before his injury, we are badly missing him.

Kaja - Has looked good in the cameos he has made so far. Was he injured on Saturday? Another one who IMO should be getting regular game time, whether as a starter or a sub.

Arnold - Another one who has only played part of one match due to injury.

The only signing I don't like the look of at all is Smith, the rest have either been decent, or have looked promising but have been missing through injury.

Very well spun.

Goode is still one of Curle's signings. Harriman, Adams, Watson and Wharton have all been decent IMO. McCormack and Arnold have barely featured due to injury. Oliver and Kaja have looked very promising in their brief appearances so far. Hall-Johnson also looked promising in the only game he has played (due to injury) in his preferred position. I didn't expect much from Warburton as he was making a step-up, so I wouldn't say he's been a disappointment. There's still time for him to come good.

I agree that Lines and Martin have been disappointing so far, particularly Lines (who I still expect a lot from this season), while Smith has probably been the biggest let down.

Overall I still think the signings have improved us and the squad is a lot stronger than last season.

Curle's tactics do frustrate me at times, but I'm still confident we will finish a lot higher in the table than last year. At the moment I think we will fall a little short of the play-offs though, but time will tell.

Les lived in Islip .

Agree with the majority apart from your assessment of Hall-Johnson who played the first two games and struggled in both, with only a slight improvement in the second.  The first I was hoping that he was going to be pulled at HT to protect him. However I do hope that he does improve and becomes an asset.

Surely you are a wind up ?
Going back to the point , you would drop him on that basis ?

Don’t want to say anything provocative to some but where’s Evers? Can’t recall him not contributing to a match day thread before, hope the old boy is alright?

Marc, you must be due to get Gas & Electric soon in Artlenock    ;D ;D

Agreed. Look at the two long range goals he conceded in back to back games. That's a regularity throughout his NTFC career. Pretty happy Arnold is soon back in the fold personally.

Was it "bring babes in arms" to the match day? A lot round me looked bored stiff and shouting incoherently. Come to think of it so was I.

I was just thinking that myself Melly. Very strange.
Not been banned/suspended has he mods?!

We don't generally comment or bring attention to bannings but he's currently having a rest from the board for a few weeks.

Oh dear...poor old boy, how's he going to cope!!

According to Manwork he'll be able to use one of his other aliases to log in  >:D   

Did he pick up 5 bookings before the start of October too then? Shocking lack of discipline on and off the pitch.

You think it’s a coincidence that Ron’s made an appearance  :P

Military action eh, it wasn’t a drone was it?

I'm sure #frank and Ron Obvious will be posting a lot more in the next few weeks then..

 It’s all very well digging out some of the new signings and pointing out how they haven’t performed but unless you are an almighty bruiser that can run really fast and go at full pace for 90 minutes , you are not going to shine in this set up .
There is no room for anyone with guile or that can find pockets of space . If you don’t get rid of the ball in 2 seconds , charge down the opposition and run fast to the corner , Curle will say you are not carrying out instructions .
Players like Warburton , Lines and Pollock must be wondering what the point of being here is .

Did the tackle on Nicky Adams seem to be a particularly bad one at the time or does it look a lot worse on video?
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-boss-keith-curle-questions-referee-s-decision-not-to-red-card-orient-s-gorman-for-bad-tackle-on-nicky-adams-1-9097802

I thought it looked bad and ticked more than one box for a red. He went over the top of the ball, was out of control and appeared to use excessive force.

I haven't seen it since though, so could just have been the claret-tinted specs!

If Charles Breakspear had been reffing the red card would have been out in an instance.

Hall-Johnson didn't look comfortable at times on Saturday, but it sounds like he was thrust into the team at the last minute because of Goode having to pull out. I still hope he isn't needed in that position to often though, he's too small for a centre-back for starters. I imagine it's possible he'll only be a bench player this season, especially if Martin can find some form at left back meaning Harriman can stay on the right.

On what basis? You're personal opinion of Cornell's form? That's not my opinion as I said before, so therefore it's a pointless question.

Coming from the person who earlier in the thread stated that Curle's signings have been poor:


Adams, Watson, Wharton, Harriman, McCormack, Oliver, Kaja, Arnold and Goode (who is a new signing originally brought in by Curle) have either been decent, showed promise off the bench or haven't had a proper chance to shine yet due to injury. It's a bit much to say they've been a disappointment just 12 games into the season.

I was referring to his first two appearances not Saturday, as I wasn't there...

You're right, he would have sent Adams off for diving

 ;D ;D ;D

We know what your opinion of Cornell is Clarence but on what basis have you made your mind up that Arnold is better than him?