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Title: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 20, 2020, 15:30:46 pm
Fri 24th Jan 2020
Northampton Town FC (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
FA Cup
Referee:  England, Darren
Assistant Referee:  Scholes, Mark
Assistant Referee:  Fitch-Jackson, Carl
Fourth Official:  Drysdale, Darren

A Championship official who was in the middle last weekend for Southampton v Wolves, we've Darren England for this one.
He has officiated in three Cobblers games: our home draw against Gillingham in Apr 2017, prior to that he was in middle at Charlton for our 1-0 away win (Alex Revell)  in Aug 2016.
His only other game involving us was the 2-1 defeat at Cambridge in Oct 2015, when he sent off Lawson D'Ath, those of us who were there will remember it... ;D
He has averaged three cautions per game and is yet to produce a red card this season.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 20, 2020, 15:53:49 pm
As a matter of interest are we subject to VAR in this game ?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 20, 2020, 16:11:26 pm
As a matter of interest are we subject to VAR in this game ?

No , only prem grounds


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 20, 2020, 17:04:40 pm
As a matter of interest are we subject to VAR in this game ?
absolutely crazy that they've different rules depending on where the game is being played


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: CobblerForever on January 20, 2020, 18:40:49 pm
The use of VAR only in Premier League grounds. This has got to be an unfair advantage to the premier league team. They have got to be more used to it and dealing with the delayed decisions and so forth.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 20, 2020, 19:20:47 pm
Long may it continue only in the premier league at premier grounds .
I doubt anyone that reads this board would want it at any of our games


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: EB Claret on January 20, 2020, 19:25:49 pm
Long may it continue only in the premier league at premier grounds .
I doubt anyone that reads this board would want it at any of our games

No! Not for me thanks >:(


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: southofthecounty on January 20, 2020, 20:19:30 pm
Well this from their forum is just plain rude.

Two other things of note. Firstly, and this seems a little unfair on them I must admit, they have a trip to Leyton Orient on Tuesday so we should be fresher come Friday night. Secondly, after a quick perusal of their squad pics, I think the kindest thing to say is you'd struggle to form a boy band from among them that would woo hearts. Damn, they're an ugly bunch. 

What would you call a Cobblers boy band anyway?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Alan Partridge on January 20, 2020, 20:29:46 pm
Well this from their forum is just plain rude.

Two other things of note. Firstly, and this seems a little unfair on them I must admit, they have a trip to Leyton Orient on Tuesday so we should be fresher come Friday night. Secondly, after a quick perusal of their squad pics, I think the kindest thing to say is you'd struggle to form a boy band from among them that would woo hearts. Damn, they're an ugly bunch. 

What would you call a Cobblers boy band anyway?


Have they seen Wayne Rooney?  ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest48 on January 20, 2020, 21:01:01 pm
Have they seen Wayne Rooney?  ;D
Good point, well made  ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 20, 2020, 21:07:54 pm
Well this from their forum is just plain rude.

Two other things of note. Firstly, and this seems a little unfair on them I must admit, they have a trip to Leyton Orient on Tuesday so we should be fresher come Friday night. Secondly, after a quick perusal of their squad pics, I think the kindest thing to say is you'd struggle to form a boy band from among them that would woo hearts. Damn, they're an ugly bunch. 

What would you call a Cobblers boy band anyway?

Clearly frustrated, his period of gentlemans relaxation took longer and required more effort than anticipated? Good job we sold Joe Bunney, he could have been locked in the toilet tugging all night?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 20, 2020, 21:15:14 pm
Well this from their forum is just plain rude.

Two other things of note. Firstly, and this seems a little unfair on them I must admit, they have a trip to Leyton Orient on Tuesday so we should be fresher come Friday night. Secondly, after a quick perusal of their squad pics, I think the kindest thing to say is you'd struggle to form a boy band from among them that would woo hearts. Damn, they're an ugly bunch. 

What would you call a Cobblers boy band anyway?


Shoezone?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 20, 2020, 21:20:54 pm
Shoezone?
NN5?
Curious to know why tomorrow nights thread has been locked. Some overly sensitive folk online tonight?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baldy on January 21, 2020, 06:33:56 am
Shoezone?
;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: super-si on January 21, 2020, 07:13:39 am
Shoezone?

😂😂😂


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 21, 2020, 21:59:04 pm
A hammer blow having Whartn suspended. To give us our best chance we needed our best players available. It will disrupt the collective team that has done so well. I'm guessing Reece Hall-Johnson could slot in instead, or Jay Wiliams but he's not been close to the first team. Can't see us going to a back four after the success we've had with a 3 and wing backs.
An interesting couple of days for KC and the coaching staff.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: cobbler_rob on January 21, 2020, 22:08:41 pm
Get Alan in at centre back


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Monkey on January 22, 2020, 06:53:12 am
I reckon we'll stick with 3 at the back, with RH-J, or maybe even Joe Martin filling in.
RH-J has been decent, but I'd be a lot more confident with him at RCB if he was 6 inches taller. I suppose Jason Crowe always did a cracking job in the same position though.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 22, 2020, 07:47:04 am
I hope we stick with three at the back and not move to four because that would probably mean Harriman and Martin playing at full back.
It really has exposed how vulnerable we are in this position because no one has had an extended run there outside of the regular three. My preference would be Williams but I think it might have to be RHJ.
What a disaster .


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Irchy cob on January 22, 2020, 07:53:55 am
I hope we stick with three at the back and not move to four because that would probably mean Harriman and Martin playing at full back.
It really has exposed how vulnerable we are in this position because no one has had an extended run there outside of the regular three. My preference would be Williams but I think it might have to be RHJ.
What a disaster .

I totally agree mate, to be honest I’m more concerned about the Sc***horpe game and the match on the following Saturday.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 22, 2020, 09:20:33 am
On the plus side , the indications from stalwart Derby fans living in Northampton are that they are likely to be playing a second strong side against us


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on January 22, 2020, 09:50:34 am
On the plus side , the indications from stalwart Derby fans living in Northampton are that they are likely to be playing a second strong side against us

A club with TWO strong sides ... we´re done for !


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 22, 2020, 11:01:56 am
BT Sports won't be happy if Wazza isn't playing...  ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: west stand oap on January 22, 2020, 11:38:57 am
I would be surprised if R H-J was selected as he is a right sided player. Goode plays right, Turnball centre and Wharton left. Therefor think a left sided player more likely to be selected which probably means Martin unless we recall Jay Williams.
Going back to last nights game the referee was just as poor when we had him at Mansfield.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 22, 2020, 11:51:36 am
Out of Williams, RHJ & Martin, I'd rather Williams every time...

Playing against a Championship team should suit his calm persona perfectly, with Goode & Turnbull guiding him, could be the real making of him

Failing that, RHJ as Martin is a total liability


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Irchy cob on January 22, 2020, 12:11:39 pm
Out of Williams, RHJ & Martin, I'd rather Williams every time...

Playing against a Championship team should suit his calm persona perfectly, with Goode & Turnbull guiding him, could be the real making of him

Failing that, RHJ as Martin is a total liability

I’ve got a nagging feeling he’ll go with Martin for his left foot and his supposed dead ball delivery (not that we’ve seen any evidence of it) - what Jay Williams has done wrong is beyond me as he has nothing but impressive in all his first team appearances to date.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Irchy cob on January 22, 2020, 13:43:13 pm
Just to add, if Curle ends up changing what has become a pretty effective formation/style of play just because one (admittedly very good and important) player is suspended then it’s a bit of an indictment on the squad that he’s put together.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: lordjord on January 22, 2020, 13:48:08 pm
Just to add, if Curle ends up changing what has become a pretty effective formation/style of play just because one (admittedly very good and important) player is suspended then it’s a bit of an indictment on the squad that he’s put together.

I agree. I wouldnt be stunned if we saw RHJ go in this window anyway, assuming we get another CB in. With the later addition oh Harriman at RWB and Hoskins playing there regularly we dont have the need for a 3rd RWB. I understand that he can play in the centre also, but probably lacks the size you would ideally want for a CB. If we could move him on and take on a CB it would help address the balance slightly based on our preferred shape.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 22, 2020, 14:07:25 pm
KC may of course go 442 & unleash the animal McCormack (if he's fit of course)


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Clarity on January 22, 2020, 14:16:10 pm
Out of Williams, RHJ & Martin, I'd rather Williams every time...

Playing against a Championship team should suit his calm persona perfectly, with Goode & Turnbull guiding him, could be the real making of him

Failing that, RHJ as Martin is a total liability
You obviously didn't see Williams play against Peterborough earlier in the season, he was hopeless. Didn't he get hoofed out on loan, sorry further his development, straight after that game?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: west stand oap on January 22, 2020, 19:24:24 pm
Currently 29 tickets still available. North stand sold out, 14 available in the east and 15 in the west. There must have been a number of returns as most of the available seats are together but previously only single seats were available.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: roz on January 22, 2020, 19:44:13 pm
https://twitter.com/IanTaylor7/status/1219925711500316672?s=19


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baby Bear on January 22, 2020, 20:59:20 pm
Currently 29 tickets still available. North stand sold out, 14 available in the east and 15 in the west. There must have been a number of returns as most of the available seats are together but previously only single seats were available.

Probably Scott Wharton's friends and family... 😁


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 23, 2020, 07:17:24 am
We are not creative enough to play 442
Most of our threat comes from Adams or Hoskins attacking from deep . It would also prevent us playing Anderson as a floater .
We have to find a third centre back from somewhere


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 23, 2020, 09:18:50 am
i'm sure this scenario has happened before (not with us) but other teams...

If we appeal the red card, due to the timeframe involved, Wharton could then play against Derby BUT could face and extra game ban if (when) the appeal fails...

So we could end up losing him for 4 league games, rather than the cup game plus two league games...

I might have just dreamt this but I'm sure other teams have done this in the past, just so a certain player can play in their next game...and therefore cheat the system



Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 23, 2020, 10:57:50 am
https://twitter.com/IanTaylor7/status/1219925711500316672?s=19
The greatest player ever to pull on the shirt, still in love with him (in a non sexual way obviously).


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3330 on January 23, 2020, 11:06:45 am
19th minute tomorrow there should be a standing ovation and ‘justice for Harry’ should be sang all around sixfields as we are live on TV 👞 time to show are respects.

Seen on Twitter


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on January 23, 2020, 11:13:20 am
The greatest player ever to pull on the shirt, still in love with him (in a non sexual way obviously).

Thanks for clarifying


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 23, 2020, 12:34:51 pm
KT on the Cobblers show tonight on Radio Northampton so get ya questions into him via Twitter...


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: CobblersToMePod on January 23, 2020, 12:38:11 pm
Our preview podcast for Friday's game with derby is now available to listen to.

Charles talks to Derby County fan Simon of The Ramswriter Podcast about Philip Cocu, Wayne Rooney and Derby's season so far.

You can listen to the podcast on your phone, tablet or laptop by clicking here (https://podfollow.com/cobblerstome/episode/22ffd42d91db07d6d424db084c15438f6b6197b5).


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: WasRambo on January 23, 2020, 15:18:32 pm
Zero expectations for this, we've already gone two rounds further than usual and we've banked a tidy cash bonus too so anything from this game is gravy.

Promotion first and foremost


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 23, 2020, 15:33:48 pm
Going 1-3 Derby. Willo with a late one
Defensive reshuffle with the Whartmiester out.
Ill be watching on the telly though.
Cmon!!!!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3330 on January 24, 2020, 07:03:27 am
Does anyone know if McCormack is likely to be fit


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Manwork04 on January 24, 2020, 07:39:06 am
Does anyone know if McCormack is likely to be fit
Unlikely  :P


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: NTFC87 on January 24, 2020, 07:44:48 am
Feeling confident for this one as I was at burton so I'm going for a 2-0 cobblers win


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 24, 2020, 08:07:38 am
No point playing McCormack for this, if a few extra days makes a difference to being able to play him in the league regularly again.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: threeinabed on January 24, 2020, 08:30:23 am
Zero expectations for this, we've already gone two rounds further than usual and we've banked a tidy cash bonus too so anything from this game is gravy.

Promotion first and foremost

I would rather we won the FA cup than got promoted.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 08:36:26 am
Feeling confident for this one as I was at burton so I'm going for a 2-0 cobblers win

Were you at Orient?  :o


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 24, 2020, 08:41:11 am
I would rather we won the FA cup than got promoted.


Can't fault attitude and spirit 👍
New bedfellow?😇


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 24, 2020, 09:05:05 am
No point playing McCormack for this, if a few extra days makes a difference to being able to play him in the league regularly again.

A McCormack injury would be devastating.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: crazycobbler on January 24, 2020, 09:31:40 am
I would prefer to see RHJ play as the third CB rather than Martin. I would probably even prefer to see Harriman there. Heck, I would probably even rather throw Oliver back there. 

Ok the last one is an exaggeration. But you can see how highly I rate Martin  ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 09:51:50 am
1-1 for me, can't wait.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baby Bear on January 24, 2020, 10:15:26 am
Are we expecting a record attendance tonight?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3330 on January 24, 2020, 10:18:38 am
Are we expecting a record attendance tonight?
No we had a sellout against man united


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 10:25:09 am
No we had a sellout against man united

With no segregation in the East as we only sold that stand to home fans for the ManUre game


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 12:45:37 pm
For those without access to BT Sports, Bet365 are showing the game live, as long as you have an account with them...
https://www.wheresthematch.com/live-football-on-tv/


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Hallsy02 on January 24, 2020, 17:34:35 pm
Come on teyn!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 18:06:09 pm
Cornell
Anderson Goode Turnbull Harriman
Hoskins Lines Watson Adams
Williams Oliver

Subs Arnold, Hall-Johnson, warburton, Roberts, Johnston, Martin, Pollock

So no McCormack......


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 24, 2020, 18:09:46 pm
Marriott is definitely gonna to score tonight, isn't he.

Big job trusting Harriman at Centre-back.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 18:15:37 pm
And Rooney starts and Captains the Rams....pretty strong line up with a sprinkling of second string players.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baldy on January 24, 2020, 18:34:30 pm
I've got a good feeling about this game. We've got this cup in the bag.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: MK_Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 18:41:53 pm
After the second half display on Tuesday I’ve got little hope!

Anyhow, anyone know what channel is on? I seem to be watching Rooney’s testimonial here.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 24, 2020, 18:51:02 pm
I enjoyed Curles honesty. Plan A we'll hoof it, plan B is more hoofing.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 24, 2020, 18:54:09 pm
I keep hearing the media saying how the smaller clubs and the their fans want to keep FA cup replays, the chairman maybe? but I’d happily see matches go straight to penalties, giving us the best chance of getting through. The last thing I was thinking when we won at Anfield was I wish this competition had replays instead.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 18:59:04 pm
Watching on Bet 365, listening on Five Live...  8)


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 24, 2020, 19:07:11 pm
Watching on Bet 365, listening on Five Live...  8)
Five live for me as well.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 24, 2020, 19:15:40 pm
Shocking from Goode should have been sent off.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 19:15:58 pm
Why wasn't that a red card? Goode has got away big time with that one...


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 24, 2020, 19:16:45 pm
Yeah, very lucky there. Might have just tried to take one for the team, but better to cocnede than go down to ten 15 mins in.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 19:18:13 pm
Not even given as a foul?!
I said on Tuesday these things even themselves out.....


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Aitobs on January 24, 2020, 19:27:28 pm
Ridiculous challenge from Goode, he's a very lucky boy indeed!

Good game so far, both sides going hell-for-leather although we'll be disappointed not to have buried one of our chances.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 24, 2020, 19:50:06 pm
I think we may well regret those first 20 minutes where we were on top, as the game has started to calm down. Done well defensive though, apart from the obvious ref mistake.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baldy on January 24, 2020, 19:55:21 pm
Why wasn't that a red card? Goode has got away big time with that one...
Robbie Savage has been banging on about that virtually all the half. Let it go Robbie, let it go.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Clint on January 24, 2020, 19:58:50 pm
Robbie Savage has been banging on about that virtually all the half. Let it go Robbie, let it go.
I expect he is a remainer


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baldy on January 24, 2020, 20:00:13 pm
No he's just a tosser.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 24, 2020, 20:02:32 pm
Quite right Baldy.
Last touch was Goodes. Totally in control of the ball, the Derby player clearly comes across Charlie taking him out...
Should have been a free kick for us  ;D
This game is there for the taking .


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 24, 2020, 20:08:16 pm
Five Live seem obsessed with the state of the pitch. Its not that bad is it?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Aitobs on January 24, 2020, 20:18:56 pm
Five Live seem obsessed with the state of the pitch. Its not that bad is it?

It's fine. Certainly a damn sight better than Tranmere's was last night against Watford!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 24, 2020, 20:19:18 pm
Too early to take Willo off.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Aitobs on January 24, 2020, 20:19:32 pm
Williams off, Warburton on. Bit of a strange one in my view.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 24, 2020, 20:32:49 pm
Pollock on for Anderson.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 20:38:37 pm
Maroon, dark red, almost claret. Glad the commentators have done their homework...  ::)


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Aitobs on January 24, 2020, 20:44:01 pm
Roberts on for Adams for the final four minutes


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 24, 2020, 20:44:20 pm
I get nervous every time we make a sub.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 20:45:29 pm
I’ve got a very good feeling about this.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 24, 2020, 20:52:47 pm
Well done boys.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 24, 2020, 20:53:43 pm
Ok, so it's another game, but more gate revenues.

Plus, we are in the hat for the fifth round draw!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Aitobs on January 24, 2020, 20:53:50 pm
We don't seem to have a POTS thread for this game?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 24, 2020, 20:54:00 pm
Did they get a shot on target?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 24, 2020, 20:54:27 pm
Outstanding.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baldy on January 24, 2020, 20:54:55 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we've got this cup in the bag.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 20:58:01 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we've got this cup in the bag.

I think you may be right!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 21:02:10 pm
Good performance, stifled the opposition and had a few chances ourselves.
In the hat for the 5th round draw on Monday night.
We’ll know the incentive.....

Word on the gate..7798....capacity, despite segregation and seats out for cameras?? Same crowd as was given for the ManUre game. Don’t know why we’d add a hundred or so on top?


How many to Pride Park then? 5000 allocation, or as near as dammit.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 24, 2020, 21:16:02 pm
Did they get a shot on target?
Yeah, Dai was so surprised, it went straight through his hands and off his knee against the post for a corner.  ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: observer1 on January 24, 2020, 21:44:42 pm
Played really well second half. They couldn't live with Hoskins especially and we were looking the more likely, but as is often the case in these games the final ball was letting us down. Apart from a 10 minute spell in the first half Derby were really poor, couldn't adjust themselves to the game at all. They'll surely prove a very different proposition at home, but the boys can be proud of their efforts today.

Watching on BT Sport I found myself missing Oglethorpe, something I never thought I'd say. They must have referenced the Goode red card incident over 20 times FFS. Yes, it was a big moment. But there were other talking points from the game.

Overall an entertaining 0-0.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest48 on January 24, 2020, 21:45:52 pm
No he's just a tosser.
;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 24, 2020, 21:48:04 pm
Does anyone know if we get TV revenues as the away side if the replay is shown as well?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest48 on January 24, 2020, 21:48:44 pm
Does anyone know if we get TV revenues as the away side if the replay is shown as well?
Yes I think we do


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 21:57:12 pm
Yes, it was £150k per side tonight. The fees for replays are only half what they are for the 1st game though...... so we'd get another 75k if selected for TV coverage


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 24, 2020, 22:02:19 pm
Fifth Round Draw takes place during the One Show on BBC1 at 7.19pm on Monday night, we will be ball number 6


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on January 24, 2020, 22:06:44 pm
Good performance, stifled the opposition and had a few chances ourselves.
In the hat for the 5th round draw on Monday night.
We’ll know the incentive.....

Word on the gate..7798....capacity, despite segregation and seats out for cameras?? Same crowd as was given for the ManUre game. Don’t know why we’d add a hundred or so on top?


How many to Pride Park then? 5000 allocation, or as near as dammit.
Not sure any seats were lost for cameras this evening. Sky ised to take a small amount in the wings of the West but BT were on the East side tonight


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: sixfields starling on January 24, 2020, 22:10:36 pm
Excellent result tonight, only managed to catch a bit of the second half as at this franchise trade show in Liverpool, working till gone 9! What I did see, thought we matched them and Hoskins had the beating of his man on the right. Still gutted to have not been there, was the atmosphere good , under lights. Definitely be at pride park for the replay, we’ll done everyone.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 24, 2020, 23:10:47 pm
Good dogged Keith Curle type performance with our best chances coming early on. The ball just never fell kindly in the box. Goode was immense after being incredibly lucky not to see red. All put a shift in. Rooney can still pick a pass and their passing and ball control was class but they created so little, not a shot on target. Probably not a great spectacle for the neutral.
Interesting attendance figure the same as the Man Utd game bang on capacity. The only segregated seats were about 5 in the East Stand above the gangway. Lots of Cobblers fans standing in the West Stand walkways near the South end all game was odd.
 Good that the TV cameras were in the East. Makes the ground look better although it seems odd having that view after all these years. Hope the atmosphere came over well and the Harry Dunn tribute which was well done.
Replay - depends on the draw on how many would travel to Pride Park. We're in the fifth round draw for the first time in 50 years.
Traffic - took me 50 minutes to do the 6 miles from Abington to get there and 20 to get out the South grass car park.
All told, a good night for the club and the town.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: EB Claret on January 24, 2020, 23:45:06 pm
Great battling performance from the Cobblers, really took the game to Derby but feel we have missed our best chance of winning the tie. At the game I thought Goode lucky to stay on but have now seen it on TV, Goode gets a touch on the ball which runs through to Cornell. So for me that's a yellow card and a free kick for the pull on Marriott, not a red.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest2995 on January 24, 2020, 23:52:15 pm
That was a performance to be proud of . We were dead on our feet in the second half and yet nothing was left in the tank against a Derby side that hadn’t played on the Tuesday .
Should have capitalised on the first half dominance but a draw was a fair result .
I’m not sure Goode deserved a red or that it was a foul . It was unintentional and a good tackle . Savage is a Ram and so who cares what he thinks .
Charlie Goode tonight was immense . That was a 10/10 performance by that lad


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3264 on January 25, 2020, 04:51:47 am
Talking to a father and son in the pub afterwards, who do all the Derby away games, and they were very complementary to ourselves. They thought we were more dangerous than the Rams.
An obvious red card but you need a slice off luck against teams two divisions higher.

I bet Rooney is on more money than the whole of our squad!!

Let`s go and have a party at Pride Park!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 25, 2020, 06:21:24 am
We really could have done without replay, probably Derby too. Would much rather see FA cup matches decided on the night.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: razorntfc on January 25, 2020, 07:22:31 am
We really could have done without replay, probably Derby too. Would much rather see FA cup matches decided on the night.

Have you been listening to the prem managers bleeting on about the FA cup replays and the fixture back log,  take replays out of the cup and we yet again start removing the magic of the cup even more, the replay offers yet more opportunity for much needed funds for lower league teams like us.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Larry on January 25, 2020, 07:29:13 am

Good dogged Keith Curle


😮


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Coolcat on January 25, 2020, 10:22:59 am
Words on Robbie Savage and BT commentary;

Incessantly banging on about the Goode sending off that for him, unfortunately never materialised.

1. No guarantee whatsoever that Derby would have scored had the player not been brought down/gone down.

2. Outside of the box, so obviously not a penalty.

3. "The dynamics of the game would have changed". Get out of here...Derby were pish and having a player less would in all probability, galvanized the Cobblers further!

4. Cocu the Derby manager is an utter c...Walsall fan! Even BT put it to him that the Cobblers should be given credit.

By contrast, Derby fans on their forum have been focusing on their team/manager's inadequacies, rather than blaming the whole result on one moment during the game.

Derby away... can't wait!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 25, 2020, 10:54:33 am
Played really well and totally dominated 80% of that game.

Charlie Goode was an animal and everyone played really well especially given the tiredness factor of 3 games in 7 days. Lucky with the non red card.

However missed opportunities dreadful quality in to the box from Hoskins in particular cost us a chance of winning and this was probably a missed opportunity.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 25, 2020, 11:53:30 am
Will Wharton be avaliable for the replay? (Harriman did a commendable job I thought).


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Hallsy02 on January 25, 2020, 11:58:40 am
Will Wharton be avaliable for the replay? (Harriman did a commendable job I thought).
Yes as he misses 3 games, so that’s yesterday, scunny on Tuesday and Maccy away next Saturday  ;D :o :afro


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 25, 2020, 12:18:58 pm
Reminder that any new signings can’t play in the replay.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 25, 2020, 12:22:57 pm
Reminder that any new signings can’t play in the replay.
No worries. If they aren't cup tied we'll save them for the next round.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 25, 2020, 12:43:12 pm
Played really well and totally dominated 80% of that game.

Charlie Goode was an animal and everyone played really well especially given the tiredness factor of 3 games in 7 days. Lucky with the non red card.

However missed opportunities dreadful quality in to the box from Hoskins in particular cost us a chance of winning and this was probably a missed opportunity.

Pretty well sums it up.....we shut down the Derby side and didn't allow them to play, as is Curles strength when setting up for games. Rooney was non-existent so if you can stop a player like that then you must be doing something right.

Hoskins delivery was poor, and apart from those two runs and a couple of times where he tracked back to defend I don't remember him doing anything at all. For me, you can't have a player being involved in four pieces of play in 90 minutes and then say he was doing a good job.

Charlie Goode, the challenge aside was fantastic, must have made about 20 defensive headers, a few more tackles and blocks, he did everything else right. Thats someone who was involved in the game and influenced the result...or way or another!  ;D

Harriman slotted in well, Turnbull did what he needed to, Adams had a great first half but was barely at the races in the second. Oliver put himself about and is a great focal point for the balls forward, but he isn't a goalscorer....two decent chances and didn't hit the target. Williams had one effort last night and didn't bring much else to the party.

Overall we more than matched the team Derby put out, I don't subscribe to the old "two divisions above" thing, because they were on the whole a reserve side with 8 changes from their previous league game.  That said we can only play whats in front of us.

Can't help feeling that we were decent, Derby were poor and we missed an opportunity to beat them there. Yes we have a replay, but you can bet that if the 5th round draw pits the winners away at a big club then they will play a much stronger side in the replay, and their home form is miles better than their away form.

We are though in the 5th round draw.....and only the oldies on here will remember the last time that happened!

UTC


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 25, 2020, 12:43:43 pm
No worries. If they aren't cup tied we'll save them for the next round.


First signing, Eminem, is cup tied!  ;)


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 25, 2020, 13:06:58 pm
The team Derby put out was still a strong one. Holmes, Waghorn, Huddlestone and Lawrence were their biggest misses from the XI, and one of those came on with 20 minutes to go. If they has all started it would probably have been a different game.

IMO though, the rest of the side was about as strong as they would be whoever they played in the other 7 positions.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: WasRambo on January 25, 2020, 15:19:11 pm
We did ok

And we're still in the hat.

Something to dream about hopefully


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest48 on January 25, 2020, 16:05:01 pm
Don't think our replay will be on TV, Oxford v Newcastle & Tottenham v Southampton will get picked before us, I think.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 25, 2020, 16:06:17 pm
Don't think our replay will be on TV, Oxford v Newcastle & Tottenham v Southampton will get picked before us, I think.

Is there only two replays shown then?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 25, 2020, 16:11:20 pm
Is there only two replays shown then?

Only two last season, Newport v Middlesbrough on the Tuesday on BT, and west Bron v Brighton was on the Wednesday televised by the BBC


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Irchy cob on January 25, 2020, 16:17:46 pm
You’d have thought there’d be some mileage in following our tie through to the end - lowest side in the round, Rooney obsession etc. What interest to the neutral is there in spurs v Southampton?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Larry on January 25, 2020, 16:40:59 pm
You’d have thought there’d be some mileage in following our tie through to the end - lowest side in the round, Rooney obsession etc. What interest to the neutral is there in spurs v Southampton?

They seem to prefer it when the underdog is at home so the Ox game has to be favourite. We should ge the second spot, magic of the cup and all that.
Just think though - Cobblers v Pox in the next round? It could happen folks


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 25, 2020, 16:51:02 pm
What about Blues Cov as a televised game, any chance of that?
What about Cobblers Cov in the fifth round, we dont lose to them in the cup do we?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Cordwainer2 on January 26, 2020, 11:05:15 am
Just watched the recording of the BT coverage of the match. I may be wrong but I got the impression that Robbie Savage thought that perhaps Goode should have been sent off!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 26, 2020, 11:28:47 am
Just watched the recording of the BT coverage of the match. I may be wrong but I got the impression that Robbie Savage thought that perhaps Goode should have been sent off!


Did he???  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: CobblerForever on January 26, 2020, 11:33:45 am
The two televised replays;

Spurs v Southampton - 1st choice every day for me. Proper football playing teams, premier league quality, both sides likely to play their best 11. Viewing figures will be key for BT. More £25 monthly subs sold.

Oxford v Maggies - 2nd choice for the potential giant killing.

Would love the Shrews to turf out Liverpool this afternoon.

My view, of course.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: The Hask on January 26, 2020, 17:31:01 pm
The two televised replays;

Spurs v Southampton - 1st choice every day for me. Proper football playing teams, premier league quality, both sides likely to play their best 11. Viewing figures will be key for BT. More £25 monthly subs sold.

Oxford v Maggies - 2nd choice for the potential giant killing.

Would love the Shrews to turf out Liverpool this afternoon.

My view, of course.

Although depends on the love in that bt sports have with Rooney


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: observer1 on January 26, 2020, 18:33:24 pm
So many draws this round. No chance of being selected unfortunately.

Pierre played well for Shrewsbury. They look too good to be where they are in L1.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest216 on January 26, 2020, 18:55:29 pm
Spurs v Southampton - 1st choice every day for me. Proper football playing teams, premier league quality, both sides likely to play their best 11. Viewing figures will be key for BT. More £25 monthly subs sold.

Disagree that this one would make a better spectacle for the neutral. A fixture that's already scheduled twice a year in the league, the cup itself being well down the priority list for either club, and I also take exception to any Mourinho side being described as a 'proper football playing' team.

However do agree with you in that the viewing figures would still exceed ours, but that's just by the nature of either club having a much larger fanbase.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Baby Bear on January 26, 2020, 18:58:42 pm
It should really be the oxFord and Shrewsbury replays on tv.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 26, 2020, 20:05:31 pm
Still think it depends on the draw....if the winners face a fifth round trip to Old Trafford it’s much more likely to be televised than if the winners will face Portsmouth at home.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: memyhead on January 26, 2020, 20:07:25 pm
Sti think it depends on the draw....if the winners face a fifth round trip to Old Trafford it’s much more likely to be televised than if the winners will face Portsmouth at home.

Plus the Lampard love in if we/Derby get Chelsea...


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 26, 2020, 20:19:24 pm
Old Trafford away, the second leg fifty years on, can we make up the first leg deficit and overcome the away goals... ;D


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 26, 2020, 20:22:43 pm
All of a sudden some of the 4th Round Replays don't seem so attractive. These are scheduled to take place in the Premier League Winter Break, and Klopp has already said that NO Liverpool 1st team players will be involved in the replay, and neither will he be. Same set up as they had at Aston Villa in the Carabao Cup where the U23 manager took charge.

Tottenham, Southampton and Newcastle all find themselves with the same dilemma, as could Arsenal and Bournemouth if their game ends in a draw tomorrow.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 26, 2020, 20:23:23 pm
Hopefully TV will steer clear of the Liverpool replay now Klopp has thrown his toys out the pram about having the replay during the Prem break. If we draw United in round 5 the Rooney factor could play a part in us being on. Or as already said Chelsea for the Lampard factor.
Spurs v Southampton should not be on either as both managers bemoaned having a replay and will probably not play strong sides. Oxford v Newcastle is probably guaranteed. We've a small chance.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Air-Dan on January 26, 2020, 21:43:39 pm
Shrewsbury or Liverpool at home would be a fab draw if we could get through.

Potential of a 'glamour tie' and a real chance at getting through to the quarters, especially if Liverpool are playing their kids / no Klopp in the replay and the Shrews sneak through.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 27, 2020, 11:51:09 am
We've a small chance.
I would be completely amazed if it.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 12:04:50 pm
Shrewsbury or Liverpool at home would be a fab draw if we could get through.

Potential of a 'glamour tie' and a real chance at getting through to the quarters, especially if Liverpool are playing their kids / no Klopp in the replay and the Shrews sneak through.

Quite an interesting couple of weeks. Only one  punter  got selection right others like me way off beam. As for the game I don't subscribe to Clarkies views. He and others seem to be influenced by personal views of players. To describe Goode as an animal is not an accurate record of that magnificent performance; he did not injure, hurt or maim any body? As a whole the team performed well as a unit, particularly the back 5.
Hoskins didn't disappoint at all - his performance typified his abilities. He defended well, two lung bursting runs followed by disappointing outcome so what's new? I prefer to praise or criticize what I see on the day not allow hindsight to gain too much of an influence.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Hallsy02 on January 27, 2020, 12:08:31 pm
Quite an interesting couple of weeks. Only one  punter  got selection right others like me way off beam. As for the game I don't subscribe to Clarkies views. He and others seem to be influenced by personal views of players. To describe Goode as an animal is not an accurate record of that magnificent performance; he did not injure, hurt or maim any body? As a whole the team performed well as a unit, particularly the back 5.
Hoskins didn't disappoint at all - his performance typified his abilities. He defended well, two lung bursting runs followed by disappointing outcome so what's new? I prefer to praise or criticize what I see on the day not allow hindsight to gain too much of an influence.

Have to agree with you there


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 27, 2020, 12:11:53 pm
Quite an interesting couple of weeks. Only one  punter  got selection right others like me way off beam. As for the game I don't subscribe to Clarkies views. He and others seem to be influenced by personal views of players. To describe Goode as an animal is not an accurate record of that magnificent performance; he did not injure, hurt or maim any body? As a whole the team performed well as a unit, particularly the back 5.
Hoskins didn't disappoint at all - his performance typified his abilities. He defended well, two lung bursting runs followed by disappointing outcome so what's new? I prefer to praise or criticize what I see on the day not allow hindsight to gain too much of an influence.
We would not be taking about Goodes magnificent MOTM performance had the puppetmaster rightly sent him off would we?


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 12:16:58 pm
We would not be taking about Goodes magnificent MOTM performance had the puppetmaster rightly sent him off would we?

But he didn't did he so your comments are lost in a sea of conjecture.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest48 on January 27, 2020, 12:19:13 pm
We would not be taking about Goodes magnificent MOTM performance had the puppetmaster rightly sent him off would we?
Very true, but we have been on the receiving end of quite a few poor refereeing decisions this season, about time something went our way


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: west stand oap on January 27, 2020, 12:44:01 pm
How could the referee send him off if it was not a foul - they were not awarded a free kick. Referee must have seen it as a coming together of 2 players on different paths.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 27, 2020, 12:44:31 pm
Quite an interesting couple of weeks. Only one  punter  got selection right others like me way off beam. As for the game I don't subscribe to Clarkies views. He and others seem to be influenced by personal views of players. To describe Goode as an animal is not an accurate record of that magnificent performance; he did not injure, hurt or maim any body? As a whole the team performed well as a unit, particularly the back 5.
Hoskins didn't disappoint at all - his performance typified his abilities. He defended well, two lung bursting runs followed by disappointing outcome so what's new? I prefer to praise or criticize what I see on the day not allow hindsight to gain too much of an influence.

Evers, in the context used the term 'animal' means he was superb, similar to when somebody might describe a defender as being a 'beast' or a 'monster'. In short you might say it means he was 'unplayable' and dominated the back line.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 27, 2020, 12:55:59 pm
But he didn't did he so your comments are lost in a sea of conjecture.
Would you have lunged in like that Evers back in the day, (you old nonagenerian you ;)), knowing that most likely it would lead to yourself the team captain being sent from the field of play?




Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 27, 2020, 12:56:45 pm
Very try, but we have been on the receiving end of quite a few poor refereeing decisions this season, about time something went our way
Quite right!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2020, 14:26:07 pm
Very true, but we have been on the receiving end of quite a few poor refereeing decisions this season, about time something went our way

Surprised that the one at Leyton last Tuesday was balanced so quickly by the decision on Friday, PGMOL must be well on the ball... ;)


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 14:47:01 pm
Evers, in the context used the term 'animal' means he was superb, similar to when somebody might describe a defender as being a 'beast' or a 'monster'. In short you might say it means he was 'unplayable' and dominated the back line.

Yes I know all that and am sure Clarkie meant it as a compliment....but his choice of 'animal' as an adjective and also your choices are hardly apt. Have you ether heard a football commentator use those words to describe a player performance? It is my opinion and is solely based on a professional performance by Goode and does not deserve the epitaph of animal - he never hurt anybody on the day.

ps so there!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 14:53:33 pm
Would you have lunged in like that Evers back in the day, (you old nonagenerian you ;)), knowing that most likely it would lead to yourself the team captain being sent from the field of play?


Not advisable for me to prolong conjectural subjects.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 27, 2020, 15:07:03 pm
Yes I know all that and am sure Clarkie meant it as a compliment....but his choice of 'animal' as an adjective and also your choices are hardly apt. Have you ether heard a football commentator use those words to describe a player performance? It is my opinion and is solely based on a professional performance by Goode and does not deserve the epitaph of animal - he never hurt anybody on the day.

Yes, they are used quite commonly.

Just some quickly searched for examples used by other players as well:

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/01/20/roy-keanes-brilliant-description-of-beast-of-a-man-virgil-van-dijk/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7552431/Football-news-Tammy-Abraham-admits-Virgil-van-Dijk-toughest-defender-faced.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8629724/maradona-ronaldo-animal-messi-juventus/







Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 15:41:36 pm
Yes, they are used quite commonly.

Just some quickly searched for examples used by other players as well:

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/01/20/roy-keanes-brilliant-description-of-beast-of-a-man-virgil-van-dijk/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7552431/Football-news-Tammy-Abraham-admits-Virgil-van-Dijk-toughest-defender-faced.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8629724/maradona-ronaldo-animal-messi-juventus/


Applaud your choice  of mediums ::) I was referring to ITV, BBC and such like media platforms. As for the Sun and Daily Mail; wow thanks for that!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 27, 2020, 15:45:34 pm
Good grief  ??? ???


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on January 27, 2020, 15:52:44 pm
Applaud your choice  of mediums ::) I was referring to ITV, BBC and such like media platforms. As for the Sun and Daily Mail; wow thanks for that!

 :-\

I searched for 1-2 minutes. Those papers are only quoting players, it's irrelevant what papers they are. Roy Keane, Tammy Abraham and Maradona have all used such terms as a big compliment. Maradona's quote was from one all time great to another all time great, I'm doubtful Ronaldo took it as an insulting description.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 16:01:11 pm
:-\

I searched for 1-2 minutes. Those papers are only quoting players, it's irrelevant what papers they are. Roy Keane, Tammy Abraham and Maradona have all used such terms as a big compliment. Maradona's quote was from one all time great to another all time great, I'm doubtful Ronaldo took it as an insulting description.

Yep u r right ;)  end of


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: guest3338 on January 27, 2020, 16:31:02 pm
:-\

I searched for 1-2 minutes. Those papers are only quoting players, it's irrelevant what papers they are. Roy Keane, Tammy Abraham and Maradona have all used such terms as a big compliment. Maradona's quote was from one all time great to another all time great, I'm doubtful Ronaldo took it as an insulting description.
Although the connotation can quickly change.
I remember reading a MOTM post on here from quite a well respected member who has since left the site, (after ironically, a PC related spat with Manwork) who voted for Aaron Pierre and then described him as 'the intelligent beast'.
I immediately thought at the time that might not be taken by some as a compliment.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: everbrite on January 27, 2020, 16:37:54 pm
Although the connotation can quickly change.
I remember reading a MOTM post on here from quite a well respected member who has since left the site, (after ironically, a PC related spat with Manwork) who voted for Aaron Pierre and then described him as 'the intelligent beast'.
I immediately thought at the time that might not be taken by some as a compliment.

love it don't you!


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 27, 2020, 18:50:18 pm
So many draws this round. No chance of being selected unfortunately.

Pierre played well for Shrewsbury. They look too good to be where they are in L1.

Not surprising Pierre played well. He showed what a good player he is with us last year. Easily good enough for L1 and maybe higher. Much though I like all 3 of our current central defenders, I rate Pierre more than any of them.


Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: EB Claret on January 27, 2020, 19:07:47 pm
Not surprising Pierre played well. He showed what a good player he is with us last year. Easily good enough for L1 and maybe higher. Much though I like all 3 of our current central defenders, I rate Pierre more than any of them.
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Much though I liked Pierre, I rate all of our 3 current central defenders more than him.



Title: Re: Derby County (h) FA Cup Fourth Round - 24 Jan 2020
Post by: clarkeysntfc on January 28, 2020, 10:50:51 am
Pierre was a victim of playing alongside Ash Taylor, in my view.