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The Hotel End => Cobblers Corner => Topic started by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 22, 2020, 19:41:23 pm



Title: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 22, 2020, 19:41:23 pm
A trip to see if Johnny really does Rock.......or we could just call it Whaddon Road!

A crunch 6 pointer in the play off race as we take on the Robins. A win for us would put us 5th, a win for them would keep them 5th, and a draw would see them stay in....5th! We'd go up to 6th with the draw though.

33 previous games against the Robins in all competitions, they hold the upper hand with 13 wins to our 11. We only have one win in the last seven against them, and our last win there was the playoff semi final win in 2013 when we prevailed 1-0, a Luke Guttridge goal sending us to Wembley. We've lost our last two visits there 3-1 and 3-2.

They are on a decent run with 4 wins in their last 5 games overall, and 5 wins on the bounce at home since a 1-0 defeat to Plymouth on Boxing Day.

Craig Hicks will be the man in the middle, he has reffed us twice this season, overseeing our 1-0 win at Swindon and our 4-1 win over Crewe. He refereed the League Trophy semi final between Portsmouth and Exeter last Tuesday night, and has been in charge of 26 games this season issuing 78 yellow and 4 red cards.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest3338 on February 22, 2020, 19:54:00 pm
We'll win this if Willo's fit.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 22, 2020, 21:10:15 pm
We'll win this if Willo's fit.

Don't understand the love in with Williams who to me doesn't always justify his selection. Perhaps ok with Morton who again played well today. I actually prefer Smith who IMO is more of a footballer than Oliver; thought today that Oliver was not quite at the races but his opening goal was a gem. The fitness of Williams,Smith and Oliver will be critical over the coming weeks. According KC Smith is near full fitness.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2020, 21:52:40 pm
I agree with you Evers. Think Williams has had a fairly poor season and definitely wouldn’t be ahead of Vadaine or Morton in the pecking order for me.

Let’s win this. I had zero intentions of going to this but the response today has made me consider it slightly.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 23, 2020, 10:16:40 am
Grand day out is Cheltenham.
Lots of memories. That obese welsh steward getting loads of stick, local youth chucking traffic cones at the coaches, Sammo with a bullet header in the net and rebounding back into play, the ref disallowing it because he thought it hit the bar, Jamie Forrester making his debut,(we all thought that he would be a bit taller) the burger van on the away terrace pumping out smoke by the corner flag, pub stop in Evesham, and Steve Riches comes in to show everybody the dinner set that he had just purchased from the market. Very proud he was.
Not for the first time this season, I cant make this one. My current site has to be finished by Wednesday, as the client has a photo shoot booked for Thursday AM, so he can display my work to everybody. I should be flattered, but it is inconvenient.
I am going for a 1-1 draw, Callum Morton to score.
Enjoy the game everybody, I shall be logged in.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: WadeyCobbler on February 23, 2020, 21:22:32 pm
Cheltenham have recorded their best winning home sequence for 7 years and have the best defensive record in League Two. Their new keeper hasn't conceded more than one goal in any game. This was the match last year that ended our faint play off hopes with a disastrous performance with a threadbare squad. We'll win this, 2-0.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Why? on February 24, 2020, 04:48:16 am
A battle of the long-throw centre-backs.   Who has their contact lenses in?

We need whoever is our CF alongside Morton to want it more than he does......  Else, why is Williams here?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Why? on February 24, 2020, 09:56:48 am
A battle of the long-throw centre-backs.   Who has their contact lenses in?

We need whoever is our CF alongside Morton to want it more than he does......  Else, why is Williams here?

Do what?

Are we all still trying to prove who can predict what after the event?

I predict a 6-0 defeat.  Cornell replaced at half-time, just after the 5th goes in.

Curle is sacked following a post-match outburst to the press when, for the first time since his tenure started, he DOESN'T scratch his head. He demands support from this message board. This message board struggles to understand anything, let alone support..... and, in turn, is left trying to scratch its collective head.  Except, its left is otherwise engaged (think about it!).   Thus, Curle's fate is settled.

Will the 10 point penalty for being second-rate at finance kick-in before or after this game?

Do dogs want us?  Or are we unable to make even said canines salivate?

Is development of a stadium even worth it, after super-SARS kills us all off?

At what point do we accept that a massive town population of 2 (survivors) may mean that we cannot raise the funds for our challenge at the head of the Championship?

Hands up if you are fit enough to live to the end of the season.





Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest49 on February 24, 2020, 10:07:17 am
The only thing I ever remember about Cheltenham is being 1 v 3 up with 15 minutes to go and losing 4 v 3. That was a miserable night in 2003, with whistling Kettle giving three pens during the game. Haven't been back since.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Why? on February 24, 2020, 10:18:49 am
The only thing I ever remember about Cheltenham is being 1 v 3 up with 15 minutes to go and losing 4 v 3. That was a miserable night in 2003, with whistling Kettle giving three pens during the game. Haven't been back since.

How apt that you should mention winning positions turning to dust/(steam?)

Thus is our lot as true, heart-felt fans of the Cobblers.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: west stand oap on February 24, 2020, 11:25:28 am
I believe we can get something from this game. Cheltenham have won their last 5 home games so are due a hiccup and their fans were not overly impressed with their 1-0 win on Saturday. They have only failed to score in 1 home league game but despite having the best defensive record in div.2 they only have 4 home clean sheets.
If we can keep our shape and defend like we did against Exeter (not like we did against Walsall) we can restrict them to few scoring opportunities.
Hopefully the injuries to Watson and Oliver will not keep them out as without Oliver Morton is our only fit striker. Williams scan results have not been revealed and although Smith is approaching fitness KC tends to bring injured players on from the bench and build up their minutes. With this in mind McCormack will probably get 30 minutes. As Watson went off with a bang on the head he may be fit but Pollock did very well when he replaced him on Saturday.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: DrillingCobbler on February 24, 2020, 12:18:10 pm
The only thing I ever remember about Cheltenham is being 1 v 3 up with 15 minutes to go and losing 4 v 3. That was a miserable night in 2003, with whistling Kettle giving three pens during the game. Haven't been back since.

The beginning of the very end for Martin Wilkinson. I think it actually ended with him sat  on his own in the dugout after a thumping at Oxford, if memory serves me correctly. He did lump the Swindon manager though, his moment in the sun!  ;D

As for the aforementioned game. One of the worst last 10 minutes of a Cobblers game I have witnessed live. We just totally collapsed, together with Kettle levelling things up after he'd given us a more than soft penalty to go 3-1 up!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest49 on February 24, 2020, 13:57:16 pm
The beginning of the very end for Martin Wilkinson. I think it actually ended with him sat  on his own in the dugout after a thumping at Oxford, if memory serves me correctly. He did lump the Swindon manager though, his moment in the sun!  ;D

As for the aforementioned game. One of the worst last 10 minutes of a Cobblers game I have witnessed live. We just totally collapsed, together with Kettle levelling things up after he'd given us a more than soft penalty to go 3-1 up!

It was the most disappointed I could remember being after a game on the long drive home, anticipating an early start for work. Little did we know that we'd soon be 'treated' to the Mansfield play-off, the Asamoah (non) late penalty shout and Curle dancing around the pitch at Field Mill.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 24, 2020, 16:25:56 pm
I have a very bad feeling about this one.
We never seem to beat these away. I can only remember that 1 playoff game in 2013 when Gutts scored that rocket and we won 1-0 I think.
Prediction 2-0 Chelts


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 24, 2020, 16:49:04 pm
We need a point to secure survival...  https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/potentielleendplatzierung/wettbewerb/GB4


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest2995 on February 25, 2020, 08:33:34 am
Shrove Tuesday .
We all expect a bit of zest but could be tossed off with a limp sloppy one .


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:01:12 pm
We've got this game in the bag.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:04:13 pm
And tonights lineup......

Cornell: Turnbull, Jones, Goode; Harriman, Anderson, Adams, Watson, Lines Hoskins, Morton

Subs: Arnold, Martin, Wharton, Marshall, Warburton, McCormack and Pollock.

No Oliver tonight, he joins Smith and Williams on the strikers injured list. Roberts misses out on the 18 thanks to the return of Martin and Wharton.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 18:11:29 pm
No Olly now ffs how many more strikers injured
Curlio should call the Revmeister.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:19:00 pm
No Olly now ffs how many more strikers injured
Curlio should call the Revmeister.
He's the greatest!!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:20:09 pm
No Olly now ffs how many more strikers injured
Curlio should call the Revmeister.

Damn, Baldy beat me by 5 seconds!!

That would be a first though, the player manager of one club joining another on an emergency loan!!  ;D


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Irchy cob on February 25, 2020, 18:25:00 pm
Let’s hope that Morton doesn’t get injured given that we have no strikers on the bench. Also, I’d love to know what Marshall has done wrong after being man of the match in more than one match lately.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 18:32:02 pm
Damn, Baldy beat me by 5 seconds!!


He's the greatest...


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:34:25 pm
He's the greatest...
;D


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 18:37:03 pm
If Morts or the Hoskmeister get injured we'll have to work in Cecil and Manny up top.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:38:28 pm
If Morts or the Hoskmeister get injured we'll have to work in Cecil and Manny up top.

Hoskins teetering on the brink of a 2 game ban......one more yellow in the next three games......


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:41:08 pm
Run in starts here. This lot have been punching above their weight and the wounded tiger is about to expose their frailties. Reckon we’ll score 4 a la Crewe. Probably 0-4.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest2995 on February 25, 2020, 18:41:51 pm
We surely can’t play boot and chase with that team !
Must be Hoskins up front with Moreton .
Would prefer Marshall to play but we have set up for a draw with that side .


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:42:47 pm
I'm with Melbourne on this one.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: CobblerForever on February 25, 2020, 18:44:27 pm
And tonights lineup......

Cornell: Turnbull, Jones, Goode; Harriman, Anderson, Adams, Watson, Lines Hoskins, Morton

Subs: Arnold, Martin, Wharton, Marshall, Warburton, McCormack and Pollock.

No Oliver tonight, he joins Smith and Williams on the strikers injured list. Roberts misses out on the 18 thanks to the return of Martin and Wharton.

I hope Curle has been working on a Plan B because Plan A won't work with that lineup.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:47:16 pm
I'm with Melbourne on this one.
Everyone comes around to my way of thinking in the end, it’s only a matter of time.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:49:01 pm
Get in there!!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 18:49:09 pm
Yessss


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 25, 2020, 18:49:35 pm
Great start!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 18:49:45 pm
The Watmeister.....


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 25, 2020, 18:51:19 pm
It’s incredible how well we start games


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:51:47 pm
The Watmeister.....
He's the greatest!!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Bugbrooke Boy on February 25, 2020, 18:52:39 pm
Ben Tozer's team concedes from a long throw!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:54:01 pm
Ben Tozer's team concedes from a long throw!
The irony. ;D


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 18:58:31 pm
I've broken out the bourbon.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:00:49 pm
I may have a small Sherry if we win


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:03:14 pm
I may have a small Sherry if we win
Good plan.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:04:33 pm
I truly believe theres a second goal in us..


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 19:04:47 pm
Sack ‘em all


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:04:51 pm
Sack 'em all!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:05:05 pm
Curle out!!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:05:55 pm
Sack ‘em all
;D I blame the sherry idea.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:07:18 pm
Curle out!!!
He's got to go.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:09:23 pm
I truly believe theres a second goal in us..
So do I. It won't be long now.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 19:10:55 pm
Lines ball watching again, bad habit that lads got.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:15:30 pm
The Hoskmeister has had a couple of decent chances.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:20:21 pm
Harrimeister booked


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:22:08 pm
Morts has hardly been in the game


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:25:36 pm
Morts has hardly been in the game
He's got to go.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:30:00 pm
We haven't heard from GPC or Melly for a while..
Im starting to get worried.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:33:29 pm
1-1 HT.
Not pretty but ok.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:35:27 pm
We haven't heard from GPC or Melly for a while..
Im starting to get worried.
You're a worrier, make no mistake.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 19:36:58 pm
We haven't heard from GPC or Melly for a while..
Im starting to get worried.
Having a fume, just been informed I’m on the school run so the last 15 minutes are on rewind. They’ve got too much room in the middle of the park. Would like to see Mac and Polly on for Anderson and Lines.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 19:39:30 pm
Having a fume, just been informed I’m on the school run so the last 15 minutes are on rewind. They’ve got too much room in the middle of the park. Would like to see Mac and Polly on for Anderson and Lines.
Oh, and anyone on for Steve Phillips, St Johns Ambulance, a ball boy, anyone.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:44:47 pm
Phew Baldy was worried sick.
You are correct about Mac and Polly. We also need to stop giving the ball away so much.
Big 2nd half


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 19:46:23 pm
I was on the kids football run, don’t worry, I’m back now!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: west stand oap on February 25, 2020, 19:48:45 pm
No worries regarding suspensions as you needed 10 yellow cards in the first 32 games.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 19:53:17 pm
Wharton on for Ando


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 19:58:07 pm
I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this game.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest2995 on February 25, 2020, 20:04:12 pm
“ the more time Hoskins has to think the more he gets it wrong “ classic steve Phillips


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 20:04:31 pm
Need to get Marhsall on. Bit of pace on the wing..


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 20:05:18 pm
I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this game.
me too..


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:06:29 pm
No worries regarding suspensions as you needed 10 yellow cards in the first 32 games.

10 yellows in 32 games in the Premier League, 10 yellows in 37 games in the EFL

Number of cautions Cut off point (inclusive) Automatic suspension
for number of cautions
5 (Premier League) Following 19 League Fixtures 1 Match
5 (EFL Leagues) Following 19 League Fixtures 1 Match
5 (National League) Following 23 League Fixtures 1 Match
10 (Premier League) Following 32 League Fixtures 2 Matches
10 (EFL Leagues, National League) Following 37 League Fixtures 2 Matches
15 (Premier League, National League) Last day of the same playing season 3 Matches


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:20:39 pm
Lines in the book.......20 to go


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 25, 2020, 20:21:03 pm
This is the first game I've watched on iFollow and not impressed! The first half was fine but 20 minutes into the second half and on top of it being really jittery and jumpy the app has completely crashed three times and locked up five times, meaning I've had to manually restart it.

I think I'll stick with Radio Numpty in future!

And lo and behold, before I can click the post button it's crashed again...


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:28:27 pm
Wharton into the book......


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: CobblerForever on February 25, 2020, 20:29:43 pm
Gate = 2,934.

Poor for a match between two play off sides.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:32:41 pm
Great save from Cornell to keep it level....Morton booked for kicking the ball away.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 20:33:49 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:34:12 pm
Curle out


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Baldy on February 25, 2020, 20:34:51 pm
I'm off to bed.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 20:35:07 pm
Playoffs gone


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: sxcobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:36:07 pm
Just seen the goal on Sky ... will Cornell ever command his area ??? Weak.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:36:45 pm
37 year old substitute Luke Varney........I remember him banging goals in for Crewe nearly 20 years ago!!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 25, 2020, 20:36:48 pm
Hoskins and Adams off!?!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 25, 2020, 20:37:11 pm
Another lead ends in defeat, we must be setting all sorts of records for points lost in winning positions.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:38:09 pm
Marshall and McCormack on......


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:41:23 pm
5 mins of stoppage time.....


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: tuks on February 25, 2020, 20:45:31 pm
How many times. We will NOT get promoted with Keith Clown in charge playing boring negative neandathol football. 🙄


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:45:45 pm
All over....4th defeat in 5 games...... we go again at Holloways Grimsby Town, who themselves put 4 past Newport tonight.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 25, 2020, 20:49:25 pm
Garbage again..


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Manwork04 on February 25, 2020, 20:50:02 pm
3 more points to Cornell’s list of c0ck ups, fukc me he must be top of the league.
As for our illustrious manager, he takes off Nicky Adams, the leagues number one on assists when we are chasing the game.
Going up your having a laugh 😂


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 20:53:47 pm
Draw would have been a fair result, but Cornell definitely to blame tonight. Very poor 2nd goal due to not commanding his area. I think it's time for Arnold to have his chance. Cornell has made a few mistakes in the last few games.

Why do we insist on Charlie Goode's long throws every time we get near their box? There must have been another 10 of them tonight and we didn't win a single header from them, let alone create a chance. Surprisingly the opposition seem to know exactly what's going to happen  ::)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BirdyNTFC on February 25, 2020, 20:58:24 pm
somebody might put me wrong, but from what I’ve worked out we’ve dropped 20 points from winning positions since the start of the season.

KT can’t really be serious about offering KC a new contract?!

It’s not the prettiest football and yes okay we’re a lot better off now than we have been in past years but surely not holding on to leads is a real concern?!

He’s so stubborn to realise what needs changing and when! There is no plan B, let alone C,D,E and the rest. The fact he’s never won anything wherever he’s managed and he’s classed as a senior manager says it all tbh.

Time for a change in the summer.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: EB Claret on February 25, 2020, 21:00:05 pm
Draw would've been fair but Cornell's mistake cost us. To be fair he made two good saves as well. On the evidence of just that game neither team is good enough for promotion. We misplaced so many passes tonight so found it difficult to build any pressure.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BMON on February 25, 2020, 21:02:07 pm
3 more points to Cornell’s list of c0ck ups, fukc me he must be top of the league.
As for our illustrious manager, he takes off Nicky Adams, the leagues number one on assists when we are chasing the game.
Going up your having a laugh 😂
1. activites, work or chores that Elaine doesn't like or want to do.

2. an attempt by a woman to show their son how to be a man when they have no clue at all.
Hey Dillon, I need your help with some manwork. Can you take the trash out? -- OR -- Hey Brett, do you want to do my laundry. Laundry is manwork, right? From the Irish “síbín”, this is the first of many words in this list related to general divilment and rúla búla
The acronym for “grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre and unprecedented”
The jazz and beat slang about being hip to the groove comes from the word for lazy manworking 4 hrs a day slightly mince sandwich Democratic Republic of the jazz cool jazz


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: bungle on February 25, 2020, 21:02:58 pm
Disappointing. Cheltenham are a decent side for this level, but with Tozer as the mainstay of their defence this was a drawable - or even a winnable game.

We lost the game in midfield. Don't know why Curle waited until the 85 minute - after we'd conceded - to change the midfield set up. If McCormack had been on for 15 mins then we probably would have got the draw.

Thought Lines was poor and should have been taken off after his booking if not before. He's been Ok otherwise recently.

Another problem is that Harriman - although competent defensively - offers little going forward as a LWB meaning we are very lop-sided in terms of relying on Adams as a creative threat.

Ryan Broom for them was a class above and provided a reminder that we are probably still a little short in terms of competing with the top midfields in this division.




Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BMON on February 25, 2020, 21:03:49 pm
somebody might put me wrong, but from what I’ve worked out we’ve dropped 20 points from winning positions since the start of the season.

KT can’t really be serious about offering KC a new contract?!

It’s not the prettiest football and yes okay we’re a lot better off now than we have been in past years but surely not holding on to leads is a real concern?!

He’s so stubborn to realise what needs changing and when! There is no plan B, let alone C,D,E and the rest. The fact he’s never won anything wherever he’s managed and he’s classed as a senior manager says it all tbh.

Time for a change in the summer.

Curle is a Atkins without the luck


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on February 25, 2020, 21:06:22 pm
Playoffs gone

That's a bit of an overreaction! Still everything to play for.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BMON on February 25, 2020, 21:06:42 pm
And the world has moved on


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 21:07:02 pm
Not usually one for having a go at Curle and it’s never good to draw conclusions when you’ve got the hump but. I reckon at 1-1 he decided to bring Hoskins and Adams off? Whist we were waiting to bring on Mac and Marshall we conceded, and he made the same substitutions anyway. Like I said, I reckon, I don’t know and I’m guessing? However if he did that’s pants.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BMON on February 25, 2020, 21:08:08 pm
That's a bit of an overreaction! Still everything to play for.


That's a bit of an overreaction! Still everything to
HOOF
for.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on February 25, 2020, 21:12:21 pm
Disappointing. Cheltenham are a decent side for this level, but with Tozer as the mainstay of their defence this was a drawable - or even a winnable game.

We lost the game in midfield. Don't know why Curle waited until the 85 minute - after we'd conceded - to change the midfield set up. If McCormack had been on for 15 mins then we probably would have got the draw.

Thought Lines was poor and should have been taken off after his booking if not before. He's been Ok otherwise recently.

Another problem is that Harriman - although competent defensively - offers little going forward as a LWB meaning we are very lop-sided in terms of relying on Adams as a creative threat.

Ryan Broom for them was a class above and provided a reminder that we are probably still a little short in terms of competing with the top midfields in this division.




I agree about Lines, I would have taken him off with 30 minutes to go. I think Morton did OK again tonight, but we definitely missed having another option up front what with Williams and Oliver being out. A point would have been a very good result tonight but it's disappointing to lose it in the manner that we did.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: WadeyCobbler on February 25, 2020, 21:15:41 pm
Only followed on Twitter so can't comment too much on our play but it sounds like a match we could have got something from which is annoying. Despite 4 defeats in 5 games we're still in a play-off place, so all to play for. It's in our own hands if we can get back to some sort of form. Players coming back from injury should strengthen us.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Fred_NTFC on February 25, 2020, 21:16:13 pm
It really is hard to take to Keith Curle sometimes. Much needed win on Saturday, chance to try out a different style of football with Oliver out, but he doesn't appear to enjoy anything other than a grind. Spent yet another tenner feeling like I've been through the grind too, I've yet to see us actually play well in the ten or so matches I've managed to watch, it is just so dispiriting.

It's funny because I am normally someone with a fairly balanced opinion but considering we are still in the promotion shake-up & considering I still try & support from afar I just have a real dislike for the bloke. Not personally, but tactically.

At half-time today (or soon after) would gave been the perfect chance to try & change my mind. A crucial match in the shake-up for promotion. A solid if fairly unspectacular looking Cheltenham side not really going anywhere. Yet, as the 2nd-hald wore on, it became completely & totally obvious what was going to happen.

We had several chances to break, yet used the ball poorly or slowly. It was crying out for Pollock & Marshall to come on. We really had a chance to change the momentum, in fact I'd go so far as to say I'd have fancied us to win the game.

Yet he just waits. Like a statue. Like a Chris Lines. Nullify them to death. Catch a lucky break. He just cannot learn to change a game positively. Cheltenham were ushered on, and lo & behold started to grow in confidence again with us treading concrete. It is just so, predictably tiresome. There's almost nothing to enjoy in the ninety minutes, minus the goal. No structure, no plan other than the original one that was only really containment.

Think I'm going to save my tenner next time, at least listening to the match I can pretend that there's some fun involved. I really, really hope Keith Curle can learn to adapt & move us forward, there's no doubt that he has had a really positive impact in stabilising us, but tonight was a perfect opportunity to kick-on. I'm just not sure he knows how.




Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 25, 2020, 21:34:55 pm
It really is hard to take to Keith Curle sometimes. Much needed win on Saturday, chance to try out a different style of football with Oliver out, but he doesn't appear to enjoy anything other than a grind. Spent yet another tenner feeling like I've been through the grind too, I've yet to see us actually play well in the ten or so matches I've managed to watch, it is just so dispiriting.

It's funny because I am normally someone with a fairly balanced opinion but considering we are still in the promotion shake-up & considering I still try & support from afar I just have a real dislike for the bloke. Not personally, but tactically.

At half-time today (or soon after) would gave been the perfect chance to try & change my mind. A crucial match in the shake-up for promotion. A solid if fairly unspectacular looking Cheltenham side not really going anywhere. Yet, as the 2nd-hald wore on, it became completely & totally obvious what was going to happen.

We had several chances to break, yet used the ball poorly or slowly. It was crying out for Pollock & Marshall to come on. We really had a chance to change the momentum, in fact I'd go so far as to say I'd have fancied us to win the game.

Yet he just waits. Like a statue. Like a Chris Lines. Nullify them to death. Catch a lucky break. He just cannot learn to change a game positively. Cheltenham were ushered on, and lo & behold started to grow in confidence again with us treading concrete. It is just so, predictably tiresome. There's almost nothing to enjoy in the ninety minutes, minus the goal. No structure, no plan other than the original one that was only really containment.

Think I'm going to save my tenner next time, at least listening to the match I can pretend that there's some fun involved. I really, really hope Keith Curle can learn to adapt & move us forward, there's no doubt that he has had a really positive impact in stabilising us, but tonight was a perfect opportunity to kick-on. I'm just not sure he knows how.




Indeed you are normally a balanced person, and this is a good balanced post. Not knee-jerk at all.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on February 25, 2020, 21:37:57 pm
Here's a game from the 75/76 season to cheer you lot up. Football as it can be played even in the bottom division.
Featuring the radio numpty commentator Steve Phillips, and six first half Cobblers goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLz6ZV6moE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLz6ZV6moE)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: observer1 on February 25, 2020, 21:42:57 pm
Typical negative mindset from Curle second half almost inviting the second goal, doing little to help influence the game in a positive way. Not sure what more Pollock had to do on Saturday to at least feature today. *sighs*



Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 25, 2020, 21:54:15 pm
The performances on the pitch, pretty much mirror the situation off the pitch. A complete state of flux.

Probably the most frustrating period in the history of the club.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/1
Post by: everbrite on February 25, 2020, 22:18:07 pm
Left feeling we deserved a point. We looked better second half and made them look pretty ordinary. In the final 15/20mins we got scrappy and anxious. 1st goal appeared to be a Cornell error so criticism if OTT is correct. Second goal was a scramble so if you have a grumble at Cornell you will find away to blame him 100%! Lines overall was a bit anonymous, Watson perhaps pick of midfield. Harriman ok and offered himself      to go fwd quite a few times! Morton ok but needed an Oliver/Smith/Williams to help him out. We created very few chances but defensively the back 4 played ok. McCormack should have been on 15mins sooner;Pollock for Lines and Marshall on for Hoskins, sooner than they were. This display was not a patch on the Exeter game. Reckon that if McC on before winning corner draw might have been possible. Performance and result disappointing. Still in playoffs which I feel is perhaps anathema to some on here!

Correction on first goal - Big Alan behind the goal said Cornell had no chance; very good goal. So stand corrected as I was far right of goal and was unsighted! As for second can’t tell too far away’


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 25, 2020, 22:23:02 pm
Indeed you are normally a balanced person, and this is a good balanced post. Not knee-jerk at all.


I don’t think it is particularly balanced but is generally free from hysterical comments; fair bit of drip by drip criticism. Can do a lot better!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 25, 2020, 22:23:40 pm
Always easy with hindsight we but needed a higher tempo. Lines has been too patchy this season for me, and doesn’t warrant a start. It became apparent after about 10 minutes we were conceding too much space and possession in midfield and I would point predominantly at Lines for that. Would have liked to see a higher line played by the defence and a higher work rate in midfield. The last thing you want at this level is to give time to decent ball players of which Cheltenham had a few. It’s a phrase I’ve used before but when you get a lead away from home you have to get the opposition by the throat and the way to do that is to pressure them all over the park. For me we sat too deep and our midfield as a unit wasn’t mobile enough. Again, it’s the difference between a decent side and a top side. As KC says we are capable of beating anyone? What I would rather be hearing at this point in the season is that we are likely to beat anyone? We have the players, whether we consistently have the drive, ambition and tactical nous is another question entirely. We were ok tonight against a decent form side away from home. If you want promotion “ok” isn’t really good enough is it?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: threeinabed on February 26, 2020, 06:47:16 am
Cornell in terrible at long range shots and crosses non shocker!!

thanks dave


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest2995 on February 26, 2020, 07:11:01 am
Uninspiring football with predictable results .
Opposing teams have worked us out and we have no reply .
We are not good enough to go up - nowhere near .
And yet KT seems content with the manager .
It’s dross .


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: clarkeysntfc on February 26, 2020, 07:41:01 am
Not sure what more Pollock had to do on Saturday to at least feature today. *sighs*

When it comes to league games with points at stake, Curle will not use young players unless he has absolutely forced to. He says all the right things on the "player pathway" stuff but his actions speak loud and clear. I'm pretty sure he only used Pollock on Saturday because he didn't think McCormack would last longer than 15 mins.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: threeinabed on February 26, 2020, 09:02:20 am
I'm pretty sure he only used Pollock on Saturday because he didn't think McCormack would last longer than 15 mins.

KC even admitted that himself


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: crazycobbler on February 26, 2020, 10:51:40 am
Another disappointing result in what is turning into a bad February for us. I thought over the 90 minutes we actually put in a decent performance and kept Cheltenham to limited opportunities for the most part. Agree with others that the timing and personnel regarding the substitutions was a mistake from KC. You could see that come the 60th minute mark, whilst we weren’t dominating, with a little bit of extra quality the game was very much there for the taking. That was the time to bring on McCormack and Marshall.

I’ve heard its 22 points dropped from winning positions now (anyone feel free to correct me if this is wrong). Granted, I don’t know how that compares to the rest of the league but it doesn’t take a genius to know that’s a huge amount. Hang on to half of those points and we’re joint top of the division. I am happy with KC as manager but he has to take a significant portion of the blame for our inability to see games out. There is obviously either a tactical or psychological problem with the team which has not been addressed throughout the season. If it’s an inability to handle pressure moments in games, god help us if we do reach the playoffs.

On the brighter side, we have 11 games to go and its all to play for. Newport with their games in hand were the only team outside the top 9 who I thought could have potentially put themselves in the mix had they gone on a good run. However their loss last night probably spells the end for them. I expect all of the top 5 to at least make the playoffs now as they all have a game in hand which means realistically its four teams scrapping it out for two playoff spots. Us, Bradford, Colchester and Port Vale. At the start of the season if someone had said we’d be in the top 7 with 11 to play we’d probably all have taken it. I still believe at home we are a very difficult side to play but we have got to somehow find a way to start seeing games out.

It looks like unless we have a monumental collapse, KC will be getting a contract extension. So I personally believe whatever your opinion on Curle, now really is the time to get behind the lads and try to enjoy what I’m sure will be a rollercoaster end to the season. I think 17 points from our final 11 games (with wins over Colchester and Bradford) will probably see us just about sneak in. Will definitely be tough with the fixtures we have but certainly possible.  Keep the faith.



Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: west stand oap on February 26, 2020, 11:14:58 am
Why does a defeat bring out more posters? Within an hour of the final whistle this thread into 6 pages, the same as the whole thread of the Exeter game.
Personally I listened to the game on Radio Northampton who thought a draw would have been a fair result. Cheltenham shading the first half after a decent opening 15 minutes from us and ourselves better in the second half. Unfortunately the quality of coverage appears to have taken a downward turn with Steve Phillips constantly talking over the commentator when he is there just to summarise, this was particularly annoying.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Coolcat on February 26, 2020, 11:20:53 am
It really is hard to take to Keith Curle sometimes. Much needed win on Saturday, chance to try out a different style of football with Oliver out, but he doesn't appear to enjoy anything other than a grind. Spent yet another tenner feeling like I've been through the grind too, I've yet to see us actually play well in the ten or so matches I've managed to watch, it is just so dispiriting.

It's funny because I am normally someone with a fairly balanced opinion but considering we are still in the promotion shake-up & considering I still try & support from afar I just have a real dislike for the bloke. Not personally, but tactically.

At half-time today (or soon after) would gave been the perfect chance to try & change my mind. A crucial match in the shake-up for promotion. A solid if fairly unspectacular looking Cheltenham side not really going anywhere. Yet, as the 2nd-hald wore on, it became completely & totally obvious what was going to happen.

We had several chances to break, yet used the ball poorly or slowly. It was crying out for Pollock & Marshall to come on. We really had a chance to change the momentum, in fact I'd go so far as to say I'd have fancied us to win the game.

Yet he just waits. Like a statue. Like a Chris Lines. Nullify them to death. Catch a lucky break. He just cannot learn to change a game positively. Cheltenham were ushered on, and lo & behold started to grow in confidence again with us treading concrete. It is just so, predictably tiresome. There's almost nothing to enjoy in the ninety minutes, minus the goal. No structure, no plan other than the original one that was only really containment.

Think I'm going to save my tenner next time, at least listening to the match I can pretend that there's some fun involved. I really, really hope Keith Curle can learn to adapt & move us forward, there's no doubt that he has had a really positive impact in stabilising us, but tonight was a perfect opportunity to kick-on. I'm just not sure he knows how.



Seems like you saved yourself a tenner last night...could have hardly been watching, let alone there!
There was little in the way of negative play or catching them on the break from Curle or otherwise!
Cheltenham were very good in spells, and pinned the Cobblers back, especially towards the end of the game when they had the bit between their teeth.
Morton was brilliant throughout, also Harriman good to I thought.
Just because the opposition are good doesn't mean the team are being negative as a result.

A lot is made of Sky ruining football - yes, agree. A lot is made of 'plastic armchair' Prem fans...yet increasingly for so many on here, supporting your club means doing just that and paying a tenner for I-Follow!.!
276 of us there last night...should have been more!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: crazycobbler on February 26, 2020, 11:43:27 am
Why does a defeat bring out more posters? Within an hour of the final whistle this thread into 6 pages, the same as the whole thread of the Exeter game.
Personally I listened to the game on Radio Northampton who thought a draw would have been a fair result. Cheltenham shading the first half after a decent opening 15 minutes from us and ourselves better in the second half. Unfortunately the quality of coverage appears to have taken a downward turn with Steve Phillips constantly talking over the commentator when he is there just to summarise, this was particularly annoying.

Because rather sadly, based on the impressions given, I think there are now many on here who see a loss as an opportunity to say 'I told you so' about KC. It then doesn't fit their agenda to offer up to much praise to him or the team when we win. Hence the lack of posts on the Exeter thread.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 12:32:06 pm
Typical negative mindset from Curle second half almost inviting the second goal, doing little to help influence the game in a positive way. Not sure what more Pollock had to do on Saturday to at least feature today. *sighs*



Can only assume you were there?
With the introduction of Wharton at half time it appeared to settle the defence. It was in the last 15/20mins that we became increasingly ragged/anxious. The error in hindsight was failing to replace Lines with Pollock and in particularly McC. The disastrous 2nd goal could have been avoided if McC was recalled sooner? However we don’t know the true extent of McC fitness and clearly he is being used sparingly! Perhaps the loss of all three strikers affected the result. I accept my views as yours are entirely subjective!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 12:34:22 pm
The performances on the pitch, pretty much mirror the situation off the pitch. A complete state of flux.

Probably the most frustrating period in the history of the club.

That may require some clarication?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest49 on February 26, 2020, 12:50:59 pm
I don’t think it is particularly balanced but is generally free from hysterical comments; fair bit of drip by drip criticism. Can do a lot better!

I just wanted to be the first to do a review, of a review, of a review.
I didn't particularly enjoy your post.

Evers, over to you to review this.  ;)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest48 on February 26, 2020, 12:55:20 pm
Why does a defeat bring out more posters? Within an hour of the final whistle this thread into 6 pages, the same as the whole thread of the Exeter game.
Personally I listened to the game on Radio Northampton who thought a draw would have been a fair result. Cheltenham shading the first half after a decent opening 15 minutes from us and ourselves better in the second half. Unfortunately the quality of coverage appears to have taken a downward turn with Steve Phillips constantly talking over the commentator when he is there just to summarise, this was particularly annoying.
Could it be that there were just under 300 Cobblers at the game so, therefore, there are a lot more listening/watching Ifollow and have instant access to this site. Saturday night, after a match, is bound to be busier for people doing other things. That's just a thought.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 13:03:50 pm
Seems like you saved yourself a tenner last night.....yet increasingly for so many on here, supporting your club means doing just that and paying a tenner for I-Follow!.!
276 of us there last night...should have been more!

Yes the attendance of 276 was disappointing. All these critics on here from the ‘sofa ;D


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 26, 2020, 13:33:32 pm
All these critics on here from the ‘sofa ;D

I don't really see what difference it makes, to be honest. If I've only listened to a game on the radio or followed a text commentary I usually refrain from making more than general comments about a match/result, or at least qualify them by saying "it sounds like".

If you've actually watched it online though I think you are as entitled to proffer an opinion as someone who was there. Granted, you won't have as great an appreciation for things that happened off the ball or the positions players took up that were never made use of but you certainly see enough to get a general idea of how the game went though.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest1269 on February 26, 2020, 13:54:29 pm
A lot is made of Sky ruining football - yes, agree. A lot is made of 'plastic armchair' Prem fans...yet increasingly for so many on here, supporting your club means doing just that and paying a tenner for I-Follow!.!
276 of us there last night...should have been more!

So another ever’s  type comment that suggests anyone that wasn’t there has a lesser right to an opinion.

Without measuring supporter’s dedication I would suggest overall an ifollow view gives more close up detail of the game than a behind the goal view in the average L2 ground (although agree with the previous post you don’t always get the off the ball perspective)

Cobbler’s supporters come in all shapes, sizes, commitment, locations and financial means and I for one (who travel more miles per season watching games than most) find the view that those not there, opinion’s are less valid somewhat arrogant.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 26, 2020, 14:21:28 pm
So another ever’s  type comment that suggests anyone that wasn’t there has a lesser right to an opinion.

Without measuring supporter’s dedication I would suggest overall an ifollow view gives more close up detail of the game than a behind the goal view in the average L2 ground (although agree with the previous post you don’t always get the off the ball perspective)

Cobbler’s supporters come in all shapes, sizes, commitment, locations and financial means and I for one (who travel more miles per season watching games than most) find the view that those not there, opinion’s are less valid somewhat arrogant.

And of course Evers never comments on those games he watches on IFollow or listens to on the wireless does he?
Whoop whooo, Everbrite went to Cheltenham....just in case anyone hadn’t got that message yet!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Battery Man on February 26, 2020, 14:36:39 pm
I don't think it matters much, if you were their, watched on ifollow or listened on Radio Numpty, I think your still entitled to an opinion, it is a message board after all.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Manwork04 on February 26, 2020, 14:45:41 pm
There are 3 massive reasons why we will still be in league two next season and with a handful of season ticket holders.
1) Keith Curle
2) David Cornell
3) Sam Hoskins


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: EB Claret on February 26, 2020, 16:11:20 pm
There are 3 massive reasons why we will still be in league two next season and with a handful of season ticket holders.
1) Keith Curle
2) David Cornell
3) Sam Hoskins


I may be wrong but I think you've suggested this before ::)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Coolcat on February 26, 2020, 16:27:55 pm
So another ever’s  type comment that suggests anyone that wasn’t there has a lesser right to an opinion.

Without measuring supporter’s dedication I would suggest overall an ifollow view gives more close up detail of the game than a behind the goal view in the average L2 ground (although agree with the previous post you don’t always get the off the ball perspective)

Cobbler’s supporters come in all shapes, sizes, commitment, locations and financial means and I for one (who travel more miles per season watching games than most) find the view that those not there, opinion’s are less valid somewhat arrogant.
Yet another Watch like comment...
Blah blah...look up the word 'support'!
Tosh!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Manwork04 on February 26, 2020, 16:35:01 pm
I may be wrong but I think you've suggested this before ::)
I may be wrong but I don’t remember asking for your cretinous comment  ::)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Coolcat on February 26, 2020, 16:35:54 pm
I don't think it matters much, if you were their, watched on ifollow or listened on Radio Numpty, I think your still entitled to an opinion, it is a message board after all.
Not quite the point I was making, certainly.
Not whether opinions are valid...more shades of hypocrisy in those calling themselves supporters and as equally shooting down those who question loyalty over taking the easy soft armchair option of I-player, would then (no doubt) differentiate themselves from the Prem loving Sky 'fans' in the Pickering Phipps.
Giving an adverse, negative opinion then to what those of us actually there saw...more salt in the wounds so as to speak!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: EB Claret on February 26, 2020, 16:36:34 pm
I may be wrong but I don’t remember asking for your cretinous comment  ::)

And I never asked for yours, fellow cretin ;)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Manwork04 on February 26, 2020, 16:38:15 pm
And I never asked for yours, fellow cretin ;)
;D


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: observer1 on February 26, 2020, 17:10:47 pm
Best bit of the whole second half was Steve Phillips' amusing backdown on BBC Radio Northampton when Chris Lines came close to a sending off midway through the second half.

SP: That's a good tackle. That's a good tackle. No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Both sets of players surround the referee as he stops play and reaches for his pocket
JS: I think he's going to be in trouble here Chris Lines, because both feet were off the floor.
SP: Yeah. Probably, probably.
JP: It looked like he won the ball, but he was very forceful. And immediately the referee's gone to his pocket. It's a yellow.
SP: Possibly a bit fortunate. I think we may have got away with that one.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 26, 2020, 18:13:03 pm
When it comes to league games with points at stake, Curle will not use young players unless he has absolutely forced to. He says all the right things on the "player pathway" stuff but his actions speak loud and clear. I'm pretty sure he only used Pollock on Saturday because he didn't think McCormack would last longer than 15 mins.

Not really a very astute comment considering KC actually admitted this in his post-match interview


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest1269 on February 26, 2020, 18:22:30 pm
Not quite the point I was making, certainly.
Not whether opinions are valid...more shades of hypocrisy in those calling themselves supporters and as equally shooting down those who question loyalty over taking the easy soft armchair option of I-player, would then (no doubt) differentiate themselves from the Prem loving Sky 'fans' in the Pickering Phipps.
Giving an adverse, negative opinion then to what those of us actually there saw...more salt in the wounds so as to speak!

I’ve tried this in google translation on detect language but it keeps coming up with -  unable to compute a viable or understandable string of text.........


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest1269 on February 26, 2020, 18:29:49 pm
Best bit of the whole second half was Steve Phillips' amusing backdown on BBC Radio Northampton when Chris Lines came close to a sending off midway through the second half.

SP: That's a good tackle. That's a good tackle. No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Both sets of players surround the referee as he stops play and reaches for his pocket
JS: I think he's going to be in trouble here Chris Lines, because both feet were off the floor.
SP: Yeah. Probably, probably.
JP: It looked like he won the ball, but he was very forceful. And immediately the referee's gone to his pocket. It's a yellow.
SP: Possibly a bit fortunate. I think we may have got away with that one.

Agreed but I like SP - he’s like a real fan & sees thing in a instance but sometimes getting it wrong.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: west stand oap on February 26, 2020, 19:04:24 pm
If we are 'still in league 2 next season with a handful of season ticket holders' it' will have to be a bloody big hand


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Coolcat on February 26, 2020, 19:38:29 pm
I’ve tried this in google translation on detect language but it keeps coming up with -  unable to compute a viable or understandable string of text.........
Yes, it is difficult for you. Are you able to compute where Cheltenham is, sat in your armchair?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Grove on February 26, 2020, 19:44:03 pm
Seems like you saved yourself a tenner last night...could have hardly been watching, let alone there!
There was little in the way of negative play or catching them on the break from Curle or otherwise!
Cheltenham were very good in spells, and pinned the Cobblers back, especially towards the end of the game when they had the bit between their teeth.
Morton was brilliant throughout, also Harriman good to I thought.
Just because the opposition are good doesn't mean the team are being negative as a result.

A lot is made of Sky ruining football - yes, agree. A lot is made of 'plastic armchair' Prem fans...yet increasingly for so many on here, supporting your club means doing just that and paying a tenner for I-Follow!.!
276 of us there last night...should have been more!

He lives in Edinburgh ffs


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Grove on February 26, 2020, 19:53:46 pm
I watched the game on I follow, whilst eating my dinner in the warm, was in bed 10 mins after the final whistle, decent night in apart from the usual crap football.


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 26, 2020, 19:56:47 pm
I watched the game on I follow, whilst eating my dinner in the warm, was in bed 10 mins after the final whistle, decent night in apart from the usual crap football.

Did you eat your dinner at he table, or were you sitting in your armchair?......it really does make a difference!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Grove on February 26, 2020, 20:06:26 pm
Did you eat your dinner at he table, or were you sitting in your armchair?......it really does make a difference!

Two seater sofa, so not an armchair , however a better view than a plastic seat behind the goal AND replays


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 26, 2020, 21:06:05 pm
I wasn't there last night, didn't watch it on iFollow and didn't listen to RN.
I am disappointed with the result but that's about it as far as I am concerned...


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: guest1269 on February 26, 2020, 21:09:28 pm
Yes, it is difficult for you. Are you able to compute where Cheltenham is, sat in your armchair?

Yep, I can do that one so happy to advise you - simply put your home location and Cheltenham into google maps and just like magic it tells you (my location to the aforementioned being 1086 km, yours 67 km)


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 23:06:59 pm
And of course Evers never comments on those games he watches on IFollow or listens to on the wireless does he?
Whoop whooo, Everbrite went to Cheltenham....just in case anyone hadn’t got that message yet!

Have commented !
Having used ifollow for two league games I admire those who are able to give in-depth analysis on the game and player. To me prefer to be at the game; it’s a personal thing. Trouble is the cost of going to away games is not cheap. Due to cost have to miss Grimsby and Plymouth. Not sure how yr memory copes on here but I appreciate some of the comments; find the hysterical knee jerk outbursts after a loss OTT. Unfortunately and in a few cases you appear to harbour some kind of agenda on KC and Chairman & never fail to bring this up generally after a loss. Like most on here I have an opinion which I like to share!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 23:19:29 pm
I just wanted to be the first to do a review, of a review, of a review.
I didn't particularly enjoy your post.

Evers, over to you to review this.  ;)

You have too much time on yr hands; how about Plymouth?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 26, 2020, 23:42:04 pm
So another ever’s  type comment that suggests anyone that wasn’t there has a lesser right to an opinion.

Without measuring supporter’s dedication I would suggest overall an ifollow view gives more close up detail of the game than a behind the goal view in the average L2 ground (although agree with the previous post you don’t always get the off the ball perspective)

Cobbler’s supporters come in all shapes, sizes, commitment, locations and financial means and I for one (who travel more miles per season watching games than most) find the view that those not there, opinion’s are less valid somewhat arrogant.

I know most opinions on here tend to be subjective but to suggest I inferred that any fan not there have lesser rights to an opinion is gross misinterpretation; even subjective for the sake of it ::). Nothing I comment on stops any poster from issuing their POV. Long may it continue!


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Why? on February 27, 2020, 01:13:41 am
So another ever’s  type comment that suggests anyone that wasn’t there has a lesser right to an opinion.

Without measuring supporter’s dedication I would suggest overall an ifollow view gives more close up detail of the game than a behind the goal view in the average L2 ground (although agree with the previous post you don’t always get the off the ball perspective)

Cobbler’s supporters come in all shapes, sizes, commitment, locations and financial means and I for one (who travel more miles per season watching games than most) find the view that those not there, opinion’s are less valid somewhat arrogant.

The opinons of someone who understands football, and is currently involved (professionally) with the game carry more weight than those who are there for a Saturday afternoon's entertainment, regardless of their viewing position.  (I exclude Radio analysers from this generalisation, because they are after the sensational soundbyte that gets them their next gig, regardless of their real opinion on the game).

Experience of modern coaching methods, quantity of beer, viewing location, distractions.... all add to, or take their toll on, the validity of an opinion.

Whenever I attend a game, I amazed at how many "fans" are ball-watchers.  Their gaze, like that of a TV camera, follows the ball with blinkered vision.  And there-in lies the gap between supporter and player.  A proper player (and Manager) will know that the ball is just 5% of football. The other 95% is anticipation and dominance for position when not near the ball.

Lord save us, if the "fans" dictate play.  Lord save us if the people decide our nation's fate.

I rest my case.





Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: threeinabed on February 27, 2020, 06:32:27 am
The opinons of someone who understands football, and is currently involved (professionally) with the game carry more weight than those who are there for a Saturday afternoon's entertainment, regardless of their viewing position.  (I exclude Radio analysers from this generalisation, because they are after the sensational soundbyte that gets them their next gig, regardless of their real opinion on the game).

Experience of modern coaching methods, quantity of beer, viewing location, distractions.... all add to, or take their toll on, the validity of an opinion.

Whenever I attend a game, I amazed at how many "fans" are ball-watchers.  Their gaze, like that of a TV camera, follows the ball with blinkered vision.  And there-in lies the gap between supporter and player.  A proper player (and Manager) will know that the ball is just 5% of football. The other 95% is anticipation and dominance for position when not near the ball.


I'm not sure, but if we took the ball away i don't think we will be left with 95% of the game!?

idiot



Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Manwork04 on February 27, 2020, 09:48:30 am
I know most opinions on here tend to be subjective but to suggest I inferred that any fan not there have lesser rights to an opinion is gross misinterpretation; even subjective for the sake of it ::). Nothing I comment on stops any poster from issuing their POV. Long may it continue!
Your up very late Evers old chum, couldn't sleep ? Seems you and Why were both up late posting utter Bolox.
Coincidence?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 27, 2020, 09:49:18 am
The opinons of someone who understands football, and is currently involved (professionally) with the game carry more weight than those who are there for a Saturday afternoon's entertainment, regardless of their viewing position.  (I exclude Radio analysers from this generalisation, because they are after the sensational soundbyte that gets them their next gig, regardless of their real opinion on the game).

Experience of modern coaching methods, quantity of beer, viewing location, distractions.... all add to, or take their toll on, the validity of an opinion.

Whenever I attend a game, I amazed at how many "fans" are ball-watchers.  Their gaze, like that of a TV camera, follows the ball with blinkered vision.  And there-in lies the gap between supporter and player.  A proper player (and Manager) will know that the ball is just 5% of football. The other 95% is anticipation and dominance for position when not near the ball.

Lord save us, if the "fans" dictate play.  Lord save us if the people decide our nation's fate.

I rest my case.




I tend to watch games on my iPhone, from the other side of the world, at stupid o’clock whilst often too pi55ed to find my glasses. However, as anyone on here will tell you, I happen to be a world class summariser. Pick the bones out of that then?


Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: everbrite on February 27, 2020, 19:56:54 pm
The opinons of someone who understands football, and is currently involved (professionally) with the game carry more weight than those who are there for a Saturday afternoon's entertainment, regardless of their viewing position.  (I exclude Radio analysers from this generalisation, because they are after the sensational soundbyte that gets them their next gig, regardless of their real opinion on the game).

Experience of modern coaching methods, quantity of beer, viewing location, distractions.... all add to, or take their toll on, the validity of an opinion.

Whenever I attend a game, I amazed at how many "fans" are ball-watchers.  Their gaze, like that of a TV camera, follows the ball with blinkered vision.  And there-in lies the gap between supporter and player.  A proper player (and Manager) will know that the ball is just 5% of football. The other 95% is anticipation and dominance for position when not near the ball.

Lord save us, if the "fans" dictate play.  Lord save us if the people decide our nation's fate.
I rest my case.

Goalies ball watch reputedly?



Title: Re: Next up, Cheltenham away Tuesday 25/02/19
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 28, 2020, 15:10:33 pm
Quote from a Cheltenham fan:
"Northampton were an odd team, looked decent when they played the ball on the floor but insisted on hoofing it most of the time. Their lad Morton was decent and won a fair few of the hoofs but you're never likely to create much playing that way towards our back three."