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Title: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: honcho on March 10, 2020, 11:47:59 am
If all sporting events are cancelled which looks likely how will that affect lower league football clubs and in fact all sports clubs who rely on a constant income stream. Will the season be extended and will lower league clubs such as the cobblers be able to weather an imposed shutdown for an unknown period of time?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Why? on March 10, 2020, 11:52:40 am
Does the iFollow app have the bandwidth for the hundreds of thousands of fans who may chose that as their matchday option?

(I'm assuming iFollow is a common platform for all UK football).


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 10, 2020, 16:36:13 pm
Typical knee jerk reaction making sporting events behind closed doors. The goverment are the equivalent of the bog roll hoarders.
If you catch the virus bad luck, if you happen to be in the 4-5% that die(being elderly with a pre-existing condition), even worse luck, but it is not going away. If they develope a vaccine tomorrow how many years is it going to be before they can produce enough and administer it to everyone?
Life has to go on. What next everyone stays at home? Power stations shut down, no water treatment and worst of all no petrol to put in your bike and take advantage of the empty roads.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: honcho on March 11, 2020, 19:12:12 pm
And so it starts Arsenal Man City off.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 11, 2020, 21:28:50 pm
Short term pain for long term gain.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Cordwainer2 on March 11, 2020, 21:55:08 pm
Typical knee jerk reaction making sporting events behind closed doors. The goverment are the equivalent of the bog roll hoarders.
If you catch the virus bad luck, if you happen to be in the 4-5% that die(being elderly with a pre-existing condition), even worse luck, but it is not going away. If they develope a vaccine tomorrow how many years is it going to be before they can produce enough and administer it to everyone?
Life has to go on. What next everyone stays at home? Power stations shut down, no water treatment and worst of all no petrol to put in your bike and take advantage of the empty roads.
As a member of the 4 to 5%, thank you for your concern.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: honcho on March 11, 2020, 22:23:48 pm
PSG played behind closed doors 1000's of fans turned up to stand outside the stadium, I hope they all washed their hands in soap and water while singing Joyeux Anniversaire.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: honcho on March 12, 2020, 11:13:17 am
Just seen a video on the Daily Smile website of Jurgen Klopp telling fans who were leaning over the players tunnel holding their hands out for a handshake to "put your hands away you fu**ing idiots", how many were at that game last night and he's worried about a couple of them.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 13, 2020, 15:07:11 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/whiting-reassures-fans-over-financial-implications-having-games-postponed-2449942


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Coolcat on March 13, 2020, 15:50:58 pm
Typical knee jerk reaction making sporting events behind closed doors. The goverment are the equivalent of the bog roll hoarders.
If you catch the virus bad luck, if you happen to be in the 4-5% that die(being elderly with a pre-existing condition), even worse luck, but it is not going away. If they develope a vaccine tomorrow how many years is it going to be before they can produce enough and administer it to everyone?
Life has to go on. What next everyone stays at home? Power stations shut down, no water treatment and worst of all no petrol to put in your bike and take advantage of the empty roads.
There's a brigade out there ready to lynch for such pragmatic opinions...I totally agree!


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on March 13, 2020, 16:28:20 pm
You can agree, but I'd rather trust the experts and scientists. I know right? Wild.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest1269 on March 13, 2020, 17:17:49 pm
You can agree, but I'd rather trust the experts and scientists. I know right? Wild.

Absolutely - which is why I’m pleased that messageboard participants are not making the decisions - it’s not just about infection accelerating it’s about managing the resources needed to handle the cases and other medical cases-  and yes a small percentage of the elderly and those with underlying health issues will alway die in these circumstances but if the already stretched NHS resource is not planned the implications become much more serious


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 13, 2020, 17:54:49 pm
Loving it. I had to drive into Munich city centre this morning. It was like something from a post apocalyptic movie. Roads and footpaths nigh on empty, journey took a third of what it normally would.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2995 on March 13, 2020, 18:38:17 pm
This will undoubtably send clubs under unless prem clubs step in with loans I think .
Football won’t be the only sufferer . My business has already seen a major downturn


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: JollyCobbler on March 13, 2020, 19:21:33 pm
This will undoubtably send clubs under unless prem clubs step in with loans I think .
Football won’t be the only sufferer . My business has already seen a major downturn

Never mind the top clubs handing out loans. How about they each donate 2% of the money they receive each year from the Premier League and tv companies. That should help the minnows to keep the wolf from the door. God knows it's about time some fairness crept into the sport.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 13, 2020, 19:39:43 pm
Suddenly people want to listen to the advice from experts


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 13, 2020, 19:49:00 pm
Suddenly people want to listen to the advice from experts

I’m doing nothing until I hear something from Kingsley WMC Cobra committee  ;D :P


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 13, 2020, 19:58:22 pm
Well now Europe apart from the UK has been banned from travelling to the good old USofA some cheap holidays should be available.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: everbrite on March 13, 2020, 21:03:15 pm
As a member of the 4 to 5%, thank you for your concern.

Yes it is a bit I am alright Jack! However UK death rate based on latest figures from Sky news is approx 1.4%. The advice from Government Scientists seems pretty sound. Like the way Gov is reacting in a relative calm way. Lots of false info in the media - love the one on pineapple juice.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on March 13, 2020, 21:07:25 pm
The actual figure will be far far less!
Only 1.4% of confirmed cases has led to death.
What about those many thousands who have displayed very few or mild symptoms who haven’t been tested?
Indications of up to 10000 more cases on top of the 797 known.

If you’ve got symptoms then you self isolate....but you aren’t tested unless you are admitted to hospital.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on March 13, 2020, 21:51:43 pm
Herd immunity/natural selection/survival of the fittest. If it was Cobblers related this could be the new redevelopment thread, although I’m sure it’ll be over it before the East stand is finished.

Look after your olds and the vulnerable.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest1269 on March 13, 2020, 22:06:12 pm
........Lots of false info in the media - love the one on pineapple juice.

Possibly not what you were referring to but worth a lighthearted read in these serious times

https://www.yourtango.com/2014208925/oral-sex-blow-job-road-test-how-food-drinks-affect-taste-semen


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3086 on March 13, 2020, 22:27:47 pm
Possibly not what you were referring to but worth a lighthearted read in these serious times

https://www.yourtango.com/2014208925/oral-sex-blow-job-road-test-how-food-drinks-affect-taste-semen

If the vagina is laced with fresh cream and liquidised strawberries the natural flavour enhances the experience and you can definitely trace a plum undertone.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest48 on March 13, 2020, 23:12:29 pm
I’m doing nothing until I hear something from Kingsley WMC Cobra committee  ;D :P
Fishing is banned as well Nigel  ;)


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 13, 2020, 23:25:12 pm
Fishing is banned as well Nigel  ;)
  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 14, 2020, 00:04:34 am
The actual figure will be far far less!
Only 1.4% of confirmed cases has led to death.
What about those many thousands who have displayed very few or mild symptoms who haven’t been tested?
Indications of up to 10000 more cases on top of the 797 known.

If you’ve got symptoms then you self isolate....but you aren’t tested unless you are admitted to hospital.

I hope so.
So far less than 3% of confirmed cases have actually got better.

If you look at Italy and San Marino there is a huge discrepancy in reported cases per capita with Italy reporting 292 cases per million and San Marino (surrounded by Italy) reporting 2,400 cases per million.
Worryingly, the current death rates of confirmed cases are much closer, at 7.2% in Italy and 6.25% in San Marino.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 14, 2020, 10:30:43 am
Italy#s average age is quite high which could account for the slightly higher death %


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 14, 2020, 10:43:11 am
I’m doing nothing until I hear something from Kingsley WMC Cobra committee  ;D :P
;D ;D


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 14, 2020, 11:45:28 am
I’m doing nothing until I hear something from Kingsley WMC Cobra committee  ;D :P
Does that still take place in the snooker room?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 14, 2020, 13:05:46 pm
Italy#s average age is quite high which could account for the slightly higher death %
But San Marinos have a far higher (almost ten times) amount of reported cases per head of population than Italy.
Therefore also far more deaths per head of population.

GPC's point earlier was that there will be lots more mild cases that are unreported in UK which will bring UK death rates amongst those infected down,which I agree with.
However, San Marino are reporting ten times Italys infected rate yet still have similar death rates from those reported cases. It's a much smaller study with a total population of 33,400 but those figures would still give a pretty convincing analysis or it were an election exit poll.
As one of the more 'at risk' in particular, somebody show me where I'm wrong, please!


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 14, 2020, 13:15:54 pm
I have just started sneezing, and got the first train out of Euston on Friday. With a dust mask on. I get plenty of them through work. I have to admit though, I did feel a little self concious. I did have one of the full perspex masks, with the twin filters either side, and the full length rubber guantlets (drain cleaning purposes), but I felt that would be a little OTT. I say did have, because someone has nicked them! ;D
You cant trust anybody anymore. He probably had the bog roll as well.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 14, 2020, 14:23:05 pm
But San Marinos have a far higher (almost ten times) amount of reported cases per head of population than Italy.
Therefore also far more deaths per head of population.

GPC's point earlier was that there will be lots more mild cases that are unreported in UK which will bring UK death rates amongst those infected down,which I agree with.
However, San Marino are reporting ten times Italys infected rate yet still have similar death rates from those reported cases. It's a much smaller study with a total population of 33,400 but those figures would still give a pretty convincing analysis or it were an election exit poll.
As one of the more 'at risk' in particular, somebody show me where I'm wrong, please!

is that the whole of Italy though? Because it's the North that is mainly affected and that's where San Marino is so the figures would be off


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 14, 2020, 14:47:52 pm
is that the whole of Italy though? Because it's the North that is mainly affected and that's where San Marino is so the figures would be off
No, San Marino was not inside the original 'north' when only that part of Italy was on lockdown. It was just below it (kinda level with Florence).
So those figures for Italy are for the whole country as of last night.
I've just taken another look at San Marinos figures and they have added new confirmed cases today which takes their infection rate upto 3,000 per million, compared to 290 per million for Italy. No further deaths have been registered though, so the death rate goes down.
My guess is they are able to test almost everyone at the minute so the confirmed infection rate of San Marino is much more representative of the true rate there, unlike in Italy (and the UK). And If that's so, for the real death rate there to drop below 1% of all those infected, the number of new infections will need to quadruple (taking the infection rate upto 15,000 per million) without a single further death.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 14, 2020, 16:34:42 pm
Its one of natures culls. Like pneumonia. That kills thousands every year. But rarely hits the front pages. The vast majority of us will live through this. Move on, just keep going, put your mask on, and wash your hands. End of.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 14, 2020, 20:00:44 pm
Its one of natures culls. Like pneumonia. That kills thousands every year. But rarely hits the front pages. The vast majority of us will live through this. Move on, just keep going, put your mask on, and wash your hands. End of.

The vast majority of us will get the virus so midly we wont even know we have had it.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 14, 2020, 20:25:32 pm
Possibly not what you were referring to but worth a lighthearted read in these serious times

https://www.yourtango.com/2014208925/oral-sex-blow-job-road-test-how-food-drinks-affect-taste-semen
Calling it “Gentlemans Relish” makes the whole thing seem more palatable. It’s all in the presentation?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on March 15, 2020, 10:44:15 am
Over 70’s will be in isolation soon. It would be nice for a fan effort to look after the Cobblers family who may be alone and vunerable.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 15, 2020, 10:54:03 am
Is there no end to the bollox you spout?
This is a Very serious event unprecedented in our generation, thousands will die prematurely.
The country will be in complete lockdown within a couple of weeks.
I had never got you marked down as a hypochondriac.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on March 15, 2020, 12:27:07 pm
I had never got you marked down as a hypochondriac.
;D


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on March 15, 2020, 21:37:16 pm
Mods.

These are worrying and uncertain times for many of us, and for differing reasons.

The above sure ain't what this forum should be about.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 15, 2020, 22:14:25 pm
Try to keep it civil please.



Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Why? on March 16, 2020, 03:32:23 am
Be grateful that you live in a country that:

1) Only tests people in Acute Care.... so no-one actually knows (especially the scientists making the "decisions") who may or may not have the disease.
2) Has fewer acute care beds per 1,000 of the population than basket cases like Greece & Italy (etc, etc)
3) Has just 5,000 ventilators for the whole country.
4) Has left its borders open to incoming flights (with no checks of any kind) from parts of the World with dire infection rates.
5) Despite "Brexit", has developed no internal production for essential medical items (eg, surgical masks)
6) Has a PM who failed to declare that his latest flousey was up the spout when he called GE, and, thus, that he would be on "Paternal Leave" just when Brexit would be due to explode - oh, and also, now that Covid-19 is an issue.
7) Has an NHS that has been ripped apart by 10 years of a callous administration who want to kill the poor and mentally ill.
8) Has Capitalism to solve all problems of State.
9) Had a PM (Thatcher) who declared that "society is dead".
10) That has a massive death rate from Sepsis.....  And Sepsis is an inevitable result of Covid-19 morbid state.  (Guess which column the numbers will be added to?)
11) Had a huge number of "Covid-19 at risk" people vote for Brexit....  Brexit means we now have no priority for EU developed vaccine, and are outside of EU-co-ordinated medical research.
12) Has a stiff-upper-lip, and still regards a "full-English Breakfast" as the cure-all for all foreign diseases.
13) Has a Lottery Ticket that says: "Unlucky for 20% of the UK population. We want you to get ill and die." The ages of the contributors to this message board mean we will lose a few.  Stay safe!






Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 16, 2020, 07:44:12 am
I don’t think anyone needs reminding of the gravity of the current situation? The projected hospitalisation and mortality rates are truly staggering. As someone with a number of loved ones in the vulnerable category the last thing I need right now is a lecture regarding appropriate commentary. We all deal with it in our own way, as will many others. I think a bit of slack wouldn’t go  amiss? Not having a go but just pointing out that I don’t need or want a reminder that I am shi11ing myself. Hence the lack of bog roll.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2995 on March 16, 2020, 07:44:41 am
So , what do we think will happen this season ?
The season shut down without any promotion or relegation ?
The league frozen and the top 3 go up etc ?
Games behind closed doors ?
Resumed in the summer ?

I think the whole thing will be written off and clubs lose a fortune and go out of business as a result .
I can’t see any other option because this will last for a while .


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 16, 2020, 07:53:18 am
So , what do we think will happen this season ?
The season shut down without any promotion or relegation ?
The league frozen and the top 3 go up etc ?
Games behind closed doors ?
Resumed in the summer ?

I think the whole thing will be written off and clubs lose a fortune and go out of business as a result .
I can’t see any other option because this will last for a while .
I think as soon as practicable play games behind closed doors and charge £10 per game or so on ifollow irrespective of whether you have already purchased Ifollow or not? If the risk is minimal then perhaps it may be an option? At least you would find out the stomach for financial support?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: clarkeysntfc on March 16, 2020, 08:19:13 am
What has this got to do with 'Cobblers Corner'?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on March 16, 2020, 08:31:07 am
What has this got to do with 'Cobblers Corner'?
Do you think the outbreak of  Coronavirus has the potential to impact on the future of the club? If the answer is yes, then you have answered your own question. If no, I can’t help you.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2995 on March 16, 2020, 09:09:19 am
What has this got to do with 'Cobblers Corner'?
It could send the club into financial ruin , along with other clubs of our size .
On a much more insignificant note , the outcome of this years’ league is left open . Personally I don’t really care about the second point but some will do .
Next question ?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 16, 2020, 09:15:32 am
It could send the club into financial ruin , along with other clubs of our size .
On a much more insignificant note , the outcome of this years’ league is left open . Personally I don’t really care about the second point but some will do .
Next question ?
Since you ask and it's an open forum....
Do you seriously think football has a chance of resuming this June as you have twice suggested?


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2995 on March 16, 2020, 10:00:40 am
Since you ask and it's an open forum....
Do you seriously think football has a chance of resuming this June as you have twice suggested?
I certainly have not suggested football will resume in June .
I don’t think football will resume at all .
Quite honestly , football is the least of the worries and I don’t care if it resumes or not .
People’s health and livelihoods are the biggest concern . The financial welfare of the club is more important than where anyone finished in the league .


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 16, 2020, 10:21:05 am
I certainly have not suggested football will resume in June .
I don’t think football will resume at all .
Quite honestly , football is the least of the worries and I don’t care if it resumes or not .
People’s health and livelihoods are the biggest concern . The financial welfare of the club is more important than where anyone finished in the league .
I'm not for arguing on this subject but if you check out what you said on the FGR thread you'll find a contrary quote from yourself.
Maybe I'm reading it, and you, wrong.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2995 on March 16, 2020, 10:53:32 am
I'm not for arguing on this subject but if you check out what you said on the FGR thread you'll find a contrary quote from yourself.
Maybe I'm reading it, and you, wrong.
I said , before anything had been cancelled at all and people were planning trips to the game that I didn’t think any football would be played for a while .
Once all football was postponed until 3rd April I said I didn’t think we would see anything until June at least - not necessarily in our league though .
I don’t now think we will see football at all until next season , including the Euros .


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 16, 2020, 11:25:38 am
I said , before anything had been cancelled at all and people were planning trips to the game that I didn’t think any football would be played for a while .
Once all football was postponed until 3rd April I said I didn’t think we would see anything until June at least - not necessarily in our league though .
I don’t now think we will see football at all until next season , including the Euros .

Arhh, hindsight.
I agree with your current synopsis and will go a stage further and suggest that next season if it starts, will start late.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on March 16, 2020, 13:13:56 pm
Be grateful that you live in a country that:

1) Only tests people in Acute Care.... so no-one actually knows (especially the scientists making the "decisions") who may or may not have the disease.
2) Has fewer acute care beds per 1,000 of the population than basket cases like Greece & Italy (etc, etc)
3) Has just 5,000 ventilators for the whole country.
4) Has left its borders open to incoming flights (with no checks of any kind) from parts of the World with dire infection rates.
5) Despite "Brexit", has developed no internal production for essential medical items (eg, surgical masks)
6) Has a PM who failed to declare that his latest flousey was up the spout when he called GE, and, thus, that he would be on "Paternal Leave" just when Brexit would be due to explode - oh, and also, now that Covid-19 is an issue.
7) Has an NHS that has been ripped apart by 10 years of a callous administration who want to kill the poor and mentally ill.
8) Has Capitalism to solve all problems of State.
9) Had a PM (Thatcher) who declared that "society is dead".
10) That has a massive death rate from Sepsis.....  And Sepsis is an inevitable result of Covid-19 morbid state.  (Guess which column the numbers will be added to?)
11) Had a huge number of "Covid-19 at risk" people vote for Brexit....  Brexit means we now have no priority for EU developed vaccine, and are outside of EU-co-ordinated medical research.
12) Has a stiff-upper-lip, and still regards a "full-English Breakfast" as the cure-all for all foreign diseases.
13) Has a Lottery Ticket that says: "Unlucky for 20% of the UK population. We want you to get ill and die." The ages of the contributors to this message board mean we will lose a few.  Stay safe!





I love BORIS 😍


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on March 16, 2020, 16:34:34 pm
Be grateful that you live in a country that:
12) Has a stiff-upper-lip, and still regards a "full-English Breakfast" as the cure-all for all foreign diseases.
Bacon and eggs will cure anything. End off.










Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3359 on March 16, 2020, 16:40:45 pm

11) Had a huge number of "Covid-19 at risk" people vote for Brexit....  Brexit means we now have no priority for EU developed vaccine, and are outside of EU-co-ordinated medical research.

Not completely accurate. We're still in CTR until the transition has finished. If the vaccine is post Brexit it will need to be approved by the MHRA as well as the EMA but just a paperwork exercise and will be fast racked.
The rest I agree with


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 18, 2020, 17:51:19 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/march/kt180320/


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 18, 2020, 18:43:20 pm
Having just read the EFL statement about additional funding, I have to say I was appalled to hear they are looking into claiming money from the 330bn war chest the government have put together to support businesses. There's enough money sloshing around the football industry that it can afford to look after itself without sticking its snout in everyone else's trough, and I say that as a football fan!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 18, 2020, 19:41:38 pm
Having just read the EFL statement about additional funding, I have to say I was appalled to hear they are looking into claiming money from the 330bn war chest the government have put together to support businesses. There's enough money sloshing around the football industry that it can afford to look after itself without sticking its snout in everyone else's trough, and I say that as a football fan!

Well said sir


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on March 19, 2020, 13:48:24 pm
Well said sir
It’s a loan, all businesses have to pay it back.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 19, 2020, 14:16:15 pm
It’s a loan, all businesses have to pay it back.

True, but it isn't a bottomless pit and any chunk they take out is a chunk that isn't available for another business to borrow.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 20, 2020, 15:16:34 pm
Well that's me on lock down(as if). Good job I went and got the essentials, four cases of beer, six bottles of vodka, orange juice(for the vodka) six pouches of baccy(with papers and filters), 4kg of coffee, and a couple of pot noodles.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 20, 2020, 15:36:55 pm
Well that's me on lock down(as if). Good job I went and got the essentials, four cases of beer, six bottles of vodka, orange juice(for the vodka) six pouches of baccy(with papers and filters), 4kg of coffee, and a couple of pot noodles.

You out for more on Monday then... 8)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on March 20, 2020, 16:05:46 pm
Same here, all bars, restaurants and shops that don’t sell food, medicine or pet food are closed UFN. Borders pretty much closed, work from home and stay in your house, no socialising. Starting to go stir crazy and it has only been since Monday!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 20, 2020, 16:59:13 pm
Same here, all bars, restaurants and shops that don’t sell food, medicine or pet food are closed UFN. Borders pretty much closed, work from home and stay in your house, no socialising. Starting to go stir crazy and it has only been since Monday!

You can go for "essential" shopping, with supermarkets and pharmacies staying open, but with limited access(max 5 people at a time in the smaller shops). Travel to check on family is OK and going tou for exercise is ok provided it is only with your direct family members. So basically eff all changes, it just takes a little longer to get the "urgent" supplies in. The more rural areas basically will do what they want. Where I live we see a copper once in a blue moon and the local Italian and Greek places are pretty much already open 24/7(the farmers pop in for a beer early doors before going back to the farmhouse for breakfast).


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Luxembourg Cobbler on March 20, 2020, 17:35:43 pm
Yes, you are correct Singcobb, but we also have police everywhere who will check where you are going and why, going shopping for food, visiting pharmacy is OK, otherwise we have problems. Basically everyone here is following the rules, 6 deaths here up to yet, and government trying to ´flatten the curve’. They have even closed our airport, cargo flights with essential supplies only, no passenger flights in or out UFN.
Ah well, wish all the best to everyone and let’s get through this.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 20, 2020, 17:38:09 pm
Yes, you are correct Singcobb, but we also have police everywhere who will check where you are going and why, going shopping for food, visiting pharmacy is OK, otherwise we have problems. Basically everyone here is following the rules, 6 deaths here up to yet, and government trying to ´flatten the curve’. They have even closed our airport, cargo flights with essential supplies only, no passenger flights in or out UFN.
Ah well, wish all the best to everyone and let’s get through this.


Munich airport is still open at the moment, but basically to "local" flights only.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 20, 2020, 18:23:54 pm
Apparently they are going to sound the "Purge" sirens at midnight, everyman for himself. ;D


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Why? on March 21, 2020, 03:39:58 am
I love BORIS 😍

Not you, as well?

Did he use a Condom?

Oh, Manwork04.....  how will you cope with another arrrs-trumpet barstard?   ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on March 21, 2020, 07:45:42 am
I contacted two friends in CT US last night as they hadn't posted on FB recently, to find she was self isolating with CV, whilst he was quite poorly in hospital with it. Up to this point they had been firmly in the Trumpist Democrat hoax, God will take care of me camp. After speaking to her, it has left me more worried than I was.
Do any of you know someone who has contracted it?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Cordwainer2 on March 21, 2020, 08:50:24 am
I know this is trivial in the circumstances and not important but the lack of activity at Sixfields gives the pitch a chance to recuperate. Not sure if anyone is still working on it.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 21, 2020, 09:40:38 am
I know this is trivial in the circumstances and not important but the lack of activity at Sixfields gives the pitch a chance to recuperate. Not sure if anyone is still working on it.

Leicester City have already stripped their pitch as if it was close season.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 21, 2020, 12:07:44 pm
Well the lock down is a bit of a joke. People going out to do their shopping, petrol stations open and the posty has just been.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 21, 2020, 19:26:10 pm
Do any of you know someone who has contracted it?

A friend of mine has contracted it in London. He's been to the hospital and had it confirmed and they had him on a drip while they were waiting for the test results but then decided he wasn't too bad and sent him home.

I spoke to him a few minutes ago and he says he's pretty much ok when laying in bed, apart from aching limbs and fluctuating temperature but when he gets up to move around he gets very tired and very out of breath very quickly. He also reckons his wife has had it but nowhere near as severe, although that hasn't been confirmed.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 21, 2020, 20:29:38 pm
A friend of mine has contracted it in London. He's been to the hospital and had it confirmed and they had him on a drip while they were waiting for the test results but then decided he wasn't too bad and sent him home.

I spoke to him a few minutes ago and he says he's pretty much ok when laying in bed, apart from aching limbs and fluctuating temperature but when he gets up to move around he gets very tired and very out of breath very quickly. He also reckons his wife has had it but nowhere near as severe, although that hasn't been confirmed.

I hope he gets better soon. The worrying part is his wife possibly having it, but not so severe. There are some who will have symptoms so mild they will not realise they have it and this is how it will get spread.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on March 21, 2020, 23:26:05 pm
I hope he gets better soon. The worrying part is his wife possibly having it, but not so severe. There are some who will have symptoms so mild they will not realise they have it and this is how it will get spread.
Exactly. especially with teenagers who are still at the age where they know they are immortal.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 22, 2020, 09:37:43 am
At last some common sense. If you are caught out of then house without good reason it is a fine of upto 25,000 Euros and/or 2 years inside. The UK should learn from this before it is too late.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 22, 2020, 09:53:23 am
At last some common sense. If you are caught out of then house without good reason it is a fine of upto 25,000 Euros and/or 2 years inside. The UK should learn from this before it is too late.

They really should be closing all non-essential shops. I work for a retailer and looking at the sales figures this morning on my phone, people are still out there buying stuff that in no way qualifies as essential. The numbers are way down on last year, obviously, but they are still significant.

As long as stores are open, some consumers will still visit them and until they are told they can do otherwise the poor buggers working there are also having to put themselves at risk. I've made my feelings on the matter known but the decision to shutter the stores sits above my pay grade and they aren't taking it. The government really needs to say enough is enough the way they have with the hospitality industry.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 22, 2020, 12:41:10 pm
At last some common sense. If you are caught out of then house without good reason it is a fine of upto 25,000 Euros and/or 2 years inside. The UK should learn from this before it is too late.

You and I know that the difference between German and UK citizens regarding their adherence to Law, Order and any sanctions/punishment...


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 22, 2020, 12:54:30 pm
If you have a spare eight and a half minutes, well worth watching:
https://youtu.be/BtN-goy9VOY


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 22, 2020, 15:18:39 pm
You and I know that the difference between German and UK citizens regarding their adherence to Law, Order and any sanctions/punishment...

Very true, I think for once I can be thankful they are mindless robots.
All non-essential shops here are closed. Only food shops, chemists, petrol stations and food delivery services are open.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Larry on March 22, 2020, 17:57:28 pm
They really should be closing all non-essential shops. I work for a retailer and looking at the sales figures this morning on my phone, people are still out there buying stuff that in no way qualifies as essential. The numbers are way down on last year, obviously, but they are still significant.

As long as stores are open, some consumers will still visit them and until they are told they can do otherwise the poor buggers working there are also having to put themselves at risk. I've made my feelings on the matter known but the decision to shutter the stores sits above my pay grade and they aren't taking it. The government really needs to say enough is enough the way they have with the hospitality industry.

To be fair to those who are being criticised for not obeying the daft shopping rules, the government have got to let people know precisely what they can and cannot do. Keeping the pubs and restaurants open but telling people they shouldn't visit them has to be one of the most ridiculous things to come out of all this. If they don't want us to visit the non essential shops they should tell them to close.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3264 on March 23, 2020, 07:22:37 am
No football
No golf
Staying in!

Yesterday I found a lady on my settee..................apparantly she is my wife!!!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 23, 2020, 08:42:01 am
No football
No golf
Staying in!

Yesterday I found a lady on my settee..................apparantly she is my wife!!!

 ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 23, 2020, 09:17:25 am
Driving to work this morning, there appeared to be more vehicles on the road than last week?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 23, 2020, 13:00:44 pm
Driving to work this morning, there appeared to be more vehicles on the road than last week?

They are heading off to do some more panic buying or say fúck it and go to the coffee shop with their mates.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 24, 2020, 19:26:13 pm
Update on my friend: he's feeling a lot better today. Still in bed and really tired all the time but now not feeling anywhere near as ill.

I know no one else knows him but I thought I'd keep giving progress reports as this is (thankfully) the only first hand account I've had of the virus so far and I'd guess most people are probably in the same boat right now.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 25, 2020, 18:03:48 pm
Update on my friend: he's feeling a lot better today. Still in bed and really tired all the time but now not feeling anywhere near as ill.

I know no one else knows him but I thought I'd keep giving progress reports as this is (thankfully) the only first hand account I've had of the virus so far and I'd guess most people are probably in the same boat right now.

Thanks for the update, it is interesting to hear about a case in "real" terms. I'm glad he is feeling better.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on March 30, 2020, 17:56:32 pm
This may have been asked and answered elsewhere, but can clubs furlough players and let the government pay? I would imagine with the limit at £2500 a month, some players may be covered.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 01, 2020, 11:49:58 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-furlough-significant-number-staff-club-pledge-top-salaries-100-cent-2524257

The club are ensuring that ALL staff are being looked after during this crisis, taking advantage of the various help schemes being put in place by the Government.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on April 01, 2020, 14:12:48 pm
Update on my friend: he's feeling a lot better today. Still in bed and really tired all the time but now not feeling anywhere near as ill.

I know no one else knows him but I thought I'd keep giving progress reports as this is (thankfully) the only first hand account I've had of the virus so far and I'd guess most people are probably in the same boat right now.

Thanks for this. It illustrates though that when the Government state that most cases are 'mild', they are likely referring to those like your friend.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: everbrite on April 25, 2020, 20:28:27 pm
Thanks for this. It illustrates though that when the Government state that most cases are 'mild', they are likely referring to those like your friend.

Wonder what this thread will look like in a few weeks time?
If people what something to occupy themselves for a few hours just look at the 2017 thread on the Labour Manifesto regarding Nationalisation of Football....its worth it. Never realised that Barton was a Corbynista!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Bugbrooke Boy on May 05, 2020, 18:28:13 pm
Interesting how many people seerm to banging on about how the lowest paid are keeping the country going and the need to value them more after Covid. We voted Tory for God's sake - the poor will always pay the highest price under the Nasty Party.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on May 05, 2020, 20:47:01 pm
Highest death rate in Europe but the government have done superbly. Apparently.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 05, 2020, 21:19:34 pm
Highest death rate in Europe but the government have done superbly. Apparently.

Factually incorrect.....

According to the official WHO statistics, San Marino has the highest "death rate" with 1,208 deaths per 1 million residents. Belgium follows on behind with 692, then comes Andorra (595), Spain (548), Italy (485) and then the UK then with 433, France next with 391.

So we do not have the highest death rate....we may have the highest death toll, but the rate is lower than in some other countries.

I'm not surprised that a country with one of the highest populations in Europe also displays the highest death toll.

Worth bearing in mind too that different countries count deaths in different ways.....all deaths in the UK which have a Covid influence are counted as Covid deaths. Thats not the case in other countries such as Germany who only count those with Covid as a primary cause.

12 of the top 13 death rates in the World are in Europe, with the Carribean Island of St Martin the only exception. The US comes in 14th........per head of population. However you could break that down further and say that New York States' Covid death rate is 3 times that of ours (1,283 per million).....and most people in New York think the mayor is doing a fantastic job there too!

Keep things in perspective..... the death rate across the UK is 0.04%.........and an estimated 95% of Covid deaths have been where there have been underlying causes. The true figure of perfectly healthy people who have been killed outright in the UK by this virus is around 1500.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on May 06, 2020, 08:16:19 am
Factually incorrect.....

According to the official WHO statistics, San Marino has the highest "death rate" with 1,208 deaths per 1 million residents. Belgium follows on behind with 692, then comes Andorra (595), Spain (548), Italy (485) and then the UK then with 433, France next with 391.

So we do not have the highest death rate....we may have the highest death toll, but the rate is lower than in some other countries.

I'm not surprised that a country with one of the highest populations in Europe also displays the highest death toll.

Worth bearing in mind too that different countries count deaths in different ways.....all deaths in the UK which have a Covid influence are counted as Covid deaths. Thats not the case in other countries such as Germany who only count those with Covid as a primary cause.

12 of the top 13 death rates in the World are in Europe, with the Carribean Island of St Martin the only exception. The US comes in 14th........per head of population. However you could break that down further and say that New York States' Covid death rate is 3 times that of ours (1,283 per million).....and most people in New York think the mayor is doing a fantastic job there too!

Keep things in perspective..... the death rate across the UK is 0.04%.........and an estimated 95% of Covid deaths have been where there have been underlying causes. The true figure of perfectly healthy people who have been killed outright in the UK by this virus is around 1500.
Without knowing the answer, I would question one thing which has the potential to affect those figures and extrapolations.
My dad died on monday. He had been tested for Covid six days previously and the result was inconclusive, but the senior nurse at dads dementia home has said the clinical picture absolutely points towards Covid as being the cause. However because of the test status, dads death certificate only has dementia and old age listed on it
I dont see then how dads death and the doubtless many others like his can ever be included amongst the UK Covid toll, or if every country uses this same protocol?
As is now being touted, the only way we will be able to compare a countries reaction and response and performance against this thing will be to compare its excess deaths above it's own average over the period, if those figures ever become avaliable.



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 06, 2020, 08:32:12 am
Sorry for your loss, CJ. Two of my colleagues have now lost parents due to Covid-19, both of which were in retirement homes. My parents are both in their eighties but fortunately they are fit and well enough to still be at home, but even so it's a worrying time.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 06, 2020, 13:53:09 pm
Without knowing the answer, I would question one thing which has the potential to affect those figures and extrapolations.
My dad died on monday. He had been tested for Covid six days previously and the result was inconclusive, but the senior nurse at dads dementia home has said the clinical picture absolutely points towards Covid as being the cause. However because of the test status, dads death certificate only has dementia and old age listed on it
I dont see then how dads death and the doubtless many others like his can ever be included amongst the UK Covid toll, or if every country uses this same protocol?
As is now being touted, the only way we will be able to compare a countries reaction and response and performance against this thing will be to compare its excess deaths above it's own average over the period, if those figures ever become avaliable.


Sincere condolences CJ, to you and your family for your loss.

I agree with your theory about assessing our performance, you also have a number of other factors to consider as well; like the density of populations and demographics of those populations as examples, but the after action review should research this and provide the basis of a plan if something similar occurs in the future.
Remember the Government, as were all other countries, were working from a blank sheet at the very start and hindsight is almost always right.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2934 on May 10, 2020, 09:25:24 am
I can't quite believe the UK is only now introducing quarantine or checks for people arriving by air!

I flew back into Thailand from Kuala Lumpur in February and was greeted with a temperate check, gel and a face mask. The main airports here including Suvarnabhumi closed completely shortly after, only repatriation flights and cargo. Thailand today has reported 3004 confirmed cases and 56 deaths.

The virus has obviously been spread around by air travel but why the UK has allowed thousands in everyday is beyond me.

I have a beach hotel here and although the peace and quiet is welcome for a while a second huge outbreak will finish tourism, the airline industry and all the myriad of connected businesses.





Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Baldy on May 10, 2020, 14:23:39 pm
Without knowing the answer, I would question one thing which has the potential to affect those figures and extrapolations.
My dad died on monday. He had been tested for Covid six days previously and the result was inconclusive, but the senior nurse at dads dementia home has said the clinical picture absolutely points towards Covid as being the cause. However because of the test status, dads death certificate only has dementia and old age listed on it
I dont see then how dads death and the doubtless many others like his can ever be included amongst the UK Covid toll, or if every country uses this same protocol?
As is now being touted, the only way we will be able to compare a countries reaction and response and performance against this thing will be to compare its excess deaths above it's own average over the period, if those figures ever become avaliable.


Oh no. I'm really sorry to hear about your dad CJ.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 10, 2020, 19:40:04 pm
I can't quite believe the UK is only now introducing quarantine or checks for people arriving by air!

I flew back into Thailand from Kuala Lumpur in February and was greeted with a temperate check, gel and a face mask. The main airports here including Suvarnabhumi closed completely shortly after, only repatriation flights and cargo. Thailand today has reported 3004 confirmed cases and 56 deaths.

The virus has obviously been spread around by air travel but why the UK has allowed thousands in everyday is beyond me.

I have a beach hotel here and although the peace and quiet is welcome for a while a second huge outbreak will finish tourism, the airline industry and all the myriad of connected businesses.






As soon as China finally admitted the existance of the virus all flights boats etc. from China should have been halted. If this would done we would not bein the position we are in today.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 10, 2020, 19:42:08 pm
I can't quite believe the UK is only now introducing quarantine or checks for people arriving by air!

I flew back into Thailand from Kuala Lumpur in February and was greeted with a temperate check, gel and a face mask. The main airports here including Suvarnabhumi closed completely shortly after, only repatriation flights and cargo. Thailand today has reported 3004 confirmed cases and 56 deaths.

The virus has obviously been spread around by air travel but why the UK has allowed thousands in everyday is beyond me.

I have a beach hotel here and although the peace and quiet is welcome for a while a second huge outbreak will finish tourism, the airline industry and all the myriad of connected businesses.






As soon as China finally admitted the existence of the virus all flights boats etc. from China should have been halted. If this had happened we would not be in the state we are today.

Oh and I would like to be one of your first guests when this is over.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 10, 2020, 19:43:58 pm
Without knowing the answer, I would question one thing which has the potential to affect those figures and extrapolations.
My dad died on monday. He had been tested for Covid six days previously and the result was inconclusive, but the senior nurse at dads dementia home has said the clinical picture absolutely points towards Covid as being the cause. However because of the test status, dads death certificate only has dementia and old age listed on it
I dont see then how dads death and the doubtless many others like his can ever be included amongst the UK Covid toll, or if every country uses this same protocol?
As is now being touted, the only way we will be able to compare a countries reaction and response and performance against this thing will be to compare its excess deaths above it's own average over the period, if those figures ever become avaliable.



My deepest sympathies for your loss.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on May 11, 2020, 08:53:41 am
Thanks all, much appreciated.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2934 on May 11, 2020, 14:04:53 pm

As soon as China finally admitted the existence of the virus all flights boats etc. from China should have been halted. If this had happened we would not be in the state we are today.

Oh and I would like to be one of your first guests when this is over.

singcobb you're very welcome anytime, just message me and I'll pass on the details. You qualify for a whopping Cobblers discount as I'm the only one on the island!

Yes despite being in the tourist trade, an immediate global travel shutdown should've been the policy. Shutting down any method of the virus moving seems basic common sense but then you have to persuade the might of the airlines. Money spent on repatriation could've been spent on lockdown accommodation. Many countries, including Thailand have waived and extended visas.

I'd just want to add my deepest condolences to anybody here affected and hope we all stand together again soon.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 11, 2020, 17:30:50 pm
singcobb you're very welcome anytime, just message me and I'll pass on the details. You qualify for a whopping Cobblers discount as I'm the only one on the island!

Yes despite being in the tourist trade, an immediate global travel shutdown should've been the policy. Shutting down any method of the virus moving seems basic common sense but then you have to persuade the might of the airlines. Money spent on repatriation could've been spent on lockdown accommodation. Many countries, including Thailand have waived and extended visas.

I'd just want to add my deepest condolences to anybody here affected and hope we all stand together again soon.


Thanks mate, I shall be heading to Singapore to see my granddaughter then a trip "home" to Penang and I was looking at coming up to Thailand to meet up with old friends.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest2934 on May 12, 2020, 02:03:19 am
Thanks mate, I shall be heading to Singapore to see my granddaughter then a trip "home" to Penang and I was looking at coming up to Thailand to meet up with old friends.

I know Penang very well! Usually stay around Chulia St, Love Lane area where most of the tourists gather, great food although always good to get home to Koh Phangan.

Firefly used to fly direct from Penang to Koh Samui which was brilliant however only direct flights now from SIN or KLIA to Koh Samui with Bangkok Air and then a 30 minute ferry ride. I'll be waiting at the pier to pick you up!

Were on Booking.com but I don't want to link it here so if you're ever interested let me know and I'll send you all the links and videos etc.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 12, 2020, 19:34:40 pm
I know Penang very well! Usually stay around Chulia St, Love Lane area where most of the tourists gather, great food although always good to get home to Koh Phangan.

Firefly used to fly direct from Penang to Koh Samui which was brilliant however only direct flights now from SIN or KLIA to Koh Samui with Bangkok Air and then a 30 minute ferry ride. I'll be waiting at the pier to pick you up!

Were on Booking.com but I don't want to link it here so if you're ever interested let me know and I'll send you all the links and videos etc.

I lived in Fettes Park and Batu Ferringhi for years. Used to go to Lanti Tali for breakfast regularly to mix the tourists. But the best was sitting fishing early morning on the beach eating roti and drinking coffee through a straw from a plasric bag.


Title: Re: Caronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Why? on May 24, 2020, 23:15:06 pm
Be grateful that you live in a country that:

1) Only tests people in Acute Care.... so no-one actually knows (especially the scientists making the "decisions") who may or may not have the disease.
2) Has fewer acute care beds per 1,000 of the population than basket cases like Greece & Italy (etc, etc)
3) Has just 5,000 ventilators for the whole country.
4) Has left its borders open to incoming flights (with no checks of any kind) from parts of the World with dire infection rates.
5) Despite "Brexit", has developed no internal production for essential medical items (eg, surgical masks)
6) Has a PM who failed to declare that his latest flousey was up the spout when he called GE, and, thus, that he would be on "Paternal Leave" just when Brexit would be due to explode - oh, and also, now that Covid-19 is an issue.
7) Has an NHS that has been ripped apart by 10 years of a callous administration who want to kill the poor and mentally ill.
8) Has Capitalism to solve all problems of State.
9) Had a PM (Thatcher) who declared that "society is dead".
10) That has a massive death rate from Sepsis.....  And Sepsis is an inevitable result of Covid-19 morbid state.  (Guess which column the numbers will be added to?)
11) Had a huge number of "Covid-19 at risk" people vote for Brexit....  Brexit means we now have no priority for EU developed vaccine, and are outside of EU-co-ordinated medical research.
12) Has a stiff-upper-lip, and still regards a "full-English Breakfast" as the cure-all for all foreign diseases.
13) Has a Lottery Ticket that says: "Unlucky for 20% of the UK population. We want you to get ill and die." The ages of the contributors to this message board mean we will lose a few.  Stay safe!






Goodness.  I must have been on drugs when I wrote this.  I have since learnt that the UK is the envy of the World.  Please can someone give me a jolt on the head to wake me up?  (Applications by post, email, telephone accepted.  All calls incur a 35p surcharge.  Anyone responding is certified as insane).


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 24, 2020, 15:42:48 pm
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1313730/coronavirus-news-Northampton-lockdown-pandemic-Leicester-blackburn
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/health/coronavirus/northampton-could-be-different-position-rest-england-next-week-warns-council-leader-2923727
Northampton could go back into Lockdown!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 26, 2020, 12:40:02 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/people/union-criticises-northampton-sandwich-factory-calling-workers-back-less-week-after-ordering-employees-isolation-2953411

It's never going to go away whilst so many people (the minority) aren't taking it seriously...


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Carton Lid on December 08, 2020, 17:56:00 pm
Boris says the UK are World leaders in the fight against Covid after an Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman !   ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 08, 2020, 18:45:59 pm
Boris says the UK are World leaders in the fight against Covid after an Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman !   ;D

Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom...


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 09, 2020, 06:05:40 am
Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom...
And the nurse has worked for the NHS for the last 24 years...


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: tcobb on December 09, 2020, 08:23:48 am
What has race and a persons Country of origin got to do with a Covid vaccine?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Carton Lid on December 09, 2020, 09:06:56 am
Look at the  ;D at the end chaps   ???


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: tcobb on December 09, 2020, 11:08:32 am
Thats ok then , maybe the Millwall should have done that as well.  ::)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Carton Lid on December 09, 2020, 13:32:37 pm
Thats ok then , maybe the Millwall should have done that as well.  ::)
Just a little different :(


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: tcobb on December 09, 2020, 13:37:59 pm
Please define the difference between making a statement like your post and putting a smiley face at the end, or speaking the statement out loud then laughing, both can, and should be, defined as racist.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Carton Lid on December 10, 2020, 09:57:27 am
You can twist lots of words and numbers around to suit any argument. What I said was a light heart jest with not the slightest hint of racism but, unfortunately, you seem to have a sense of humour bypass
    Just a question for tcobb, if someone said "I went to the Chinese restaurant last night"  do you take that as racist ?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on December 10, 2020, 16:22:59 pm
Please define the difference between making a statement like your post and putting a smiley face at the end, or speaking the statement out loud then laughing, both can, and should be, defined as racist.

Just purely out of interest. Can you define the racist part of his post.. I do have an idea in which direction you will go.. Purely for moderation purposes please. 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: tcobb on December 10, 2020, 19:10:54 pm
The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Air-Dan on December 10, 2020, 22:15:06 pm
The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

The joke was that us British have bigged up our own involvement in developing a Covid vaccine when actually the credit should be given to others.

It's giving due credit to people from minority backgrounds, if anything.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on December 11, 2020, 09:18:55 am
The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

I sort of get where you’re going. I just think you might have missed the sentiment. Far from being a cheap use of those involved for laugh. It aims to point out the classic parochialism of the UK government, emphasising the lack of value attached to the real people/organisations that have brought it about, right up to the administration of the drug. Illustrating, albeit through the medium of humour, that it was a varied and diverse pathway that lead to the development and delivery of the vaccine. Not Boris, or the UK government.

The UK's entire role in the arrival of this vaccine, extends no further than spending our money on it.



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on December 12, 2020, 14:59:17 pm
The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.
It is clearly a dig at the British. You're looking for something that isn't there. It is exactly the same gag as the "Xenophobic Englishman that watches his Russian owned football team full of Europeans on his Japanese tv drinking Belgian lager while eating Indian food"


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 28, 2020, 14:39:28 pm
It’s easy to have a pop at the government but they are making it increasingly complicated with the tiers.
So tier 3 retail now stays open, hence the cross border spreading event at Rushden Lakes.
There’s now talk of a tier 5! One at a time in the kitchen?
I’m sure there’s a good chance we’ll move into tier 4 for New Year.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 20, 2021, 21:14:46 pm
Had the Vaccine. Oxford AstraZeneca one. Couple of days of aches, but fine now. Anybody else had it?



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 21, 2021, 05:50:02 am
Had the Vaccine. Oxford AstraZeneca one. Couple of days of aches, but fine now. Anybody else had it?



I've not but my parents and wife have. None of them had any side effects at all, apart from my wife's arm aching a bit when she laid on it the next night, but that's normal for any injection.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on January 21, 2021, 11:19:20 am
I know a lot of people who have had it, a couple have had both jabs (the booster) and no horror stories.
It's a pity it has come too late for so many but sounds as though most people will get it by September.
Our big vaccination centre on Moulton Park should hopefully open soon.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 21, 2021, 12:26:13 pm
I know a lot of people who have had it, a couple have had both jabs (the booster) and no horror stories.
It's a pity it has come too late for so many but sounds as though most people will get it by September.
Our big vaccination centre on Moulton Park should hopefully open soon.

Ah, is that where it is going to be? I guess somewhere like the Benham Arena would be ideal.

As an aside, I've had to stop reading social media comments on news stories about covid as I get too irritated with the tin foil hat brigade denying covid exists, it's all a conspiracy, the vaccine isn't properly tested, everyone going along with things is a sheep and so on, often "backed up" by some random screenshot of some other d1ckhead's baseless claim that is debunked within 2 seconds of typing it into Snopes or fullfact but is gobbled up by the other crazies.

Beyond my irritation though, it actually scares me a little bit. Everyone I know that I've spoken to about it can't wait to get the vaccine, but I'm equally aware that I may be in a bit of a bubble of pretty well educated, well read people who have done their own proper research and reached a balanced conclusion on the matter.

Are there really genuine volumes of people out there who will refuse to take the vaccine, or is it just a case of the anti-vaxxers being far more vociferous on social media? I hope it's the latter, because if there really is a lack of take up it's going to take forever to get out of this mess.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 21, 2021, 12:49:13 pm
Ah, is that where it is going to be? I guess somewhere like the Benham Arena would be ideal.

As an aside, I've had to stop reading social media comments on news stories about covid as I get too irritated with the tin foil hat brigade denying covid exists, it's all a conspiracy, the vaccine isn't properly tested, everyone going along with things is a sheep and so on, often "backed up" by some random screenshot of some other d1ckhead's baseless claim that is debunked within 2 seconds of typing it into Snopes or fullfact but is gobbled up by the other crazies.

Beyond my irritation though, it actually scares me a little bit. Everyone I know that I've spoken to about it can't wait to get the vaccine, but I'm equally aware that I may be in a bit of a bubble of pretty well educated, well read people who have done their own proper research and reached a balanced conclusion on the matter.

Are there really genuine volumes of people out there who will refuse to take the vaccine, or is it just a case of the anti-vaxxers being far more vociferous on social media? I hope it's the latter, because if there really is a lack of take up it's going to take forever to get out of this mess.

As in the majority of disputes, invariably it's the noisy/disruptive minority element that attracts the headlines, which achieves their aim.  From my experience across the country, the majority of the population: are believers, abide by the Government guidelines and want to have the vaccine 'in their arms' ASAP. 
The minority are 'spoiling' it for the majority and have had the effect of prolonging something that could have been under a better level of control a lot sooner.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 21, 2021, 13:11:09 pm
As in the majority of disputes, invariably it's the noisy/disruptive minority element that attracts the headlines, which achieves their aim.  From my experience across the country, the majority of the population: are believers, abide by the Government guidelines and want to have the vaccine 'in their arms' ASAP. 
The minority are 'spoiling' it for the majority and have had the effect of prolonging something that could have been under a better level of control a lot sooner.

I hope you are right. It's the sheer wilful ignorance and outright stupidity that some of them wear as a badge of honour that gets me. See, I'm getting wound up now just thinking about it; you can see why I've had to stop looking at them!  ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 21, 2021, 13:20:43 pm
I hope you are right. It's the sheer wilful ignorance and outright stupidity that some of them wear as a badge of honour that gets me. See, I'm getting wound up now just thinking about it; you can see why I've had to stop looking at them!  ;D

We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on January 21, 2021, 18:39:16 pm
If they believe it is a government ruse to gain mind control over the people and refuse the vaccine they should also be refused care when they catch the virus. Until the government introduce punative measures that will make people think twice about breaking the lockdown then there is always going to be a spread of the virus beyond what you would expect.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 22, 2021, 06:50:21 am
We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.

Slightly Negan-esque but I'd support it!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on January 22, 2021, 06:58:00 am
We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.
I know of an NHS nurse who was desisting the vaccine. Her family has been trying to persuade her to have it, she has worked on Covid wards as part of a secondment at Walsgrave. I dont know why she is opposed to it, I regard her as ultimately sensible otherwise.
I also know of a care home worker at my elderly aunts home who will not have it. My aunt has had it aged 96 without l effect.
A good friend of mine who works in private healthcare in germany will not have it unless he's forced to by the authorities, nor will his wife or their eenage son, but he's a wacko and no one is telling him otherwise.
I'm first inline when my time comes.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 22, 2021, 08:02:36 am
Slightly Negan-esque but I'd support it!

I had to look up your reference.  ;)
I respect those who say that they won't have the vaccine; that is a choice and you can't/shouldn't force anyone to have things stuck in them that they don't want.  That is assault.  We can only encourage them.
It's aimed at those 'non-believers' that are refusing to accept that there is a COVID-19 pandemic crisis, despite the overwhelming evidence; those that are refusing to take or are deliberately contravening the basic precautions as described in the guidelines and subsequently not helping the global 'battle'.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The Lone Heckler on January 26, 2021, 10:21:21 am
You can twist lots of words and numbers around to suit any argument. What I said was a light heart jest with not the slightest hint of racism but, unfortunately, you seem to have a sense of humour bypass
    Just a question for tcobb, if someone said "I went to the Chinese restaurant last night"  do you take that as racist ?

tcobb is a bit of a sensitive soul. I saw nothing wrong in your humerous view of the situation. I'm sure if we trawled through his/her post history there would be something we could twist to fit an agenda as well.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 28, 2021, 11:24:52 am
An old mate of mine, relatively fit and in good health, said to his wife that he "felt a bit ill with a bit of man-flu" 11 days ago. 
Two days ago he died from COVID-19!
Nine days from feeling a 'bit ill' to death.   :(


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 29, 2021, 06:49:18 am
An old mate of mine, relatively fit and in good health, said to his wife that he "felt a bit ill with a bit of man-flu" 11 days ago. 
Two days ago he died from COVID-19!
Nine days from feeling a 'bit ill' to death.   :(

I'm sorry to hear that DC. That is what's scary about this though, isn't it? You just don't know how it will affect you if you get it. I've been fortunate so far in that I've been relatively unscathed by it; no one in my family has had it and my parents have had their first jab, as has my wife and mother in law with my father in law due to have his next week. I think I qualify for group 6 or something because I have asthma, and I'll feel a lot happier when I've had it!

I do know quite a few people who've had it but fortunately they've all either had relatively minor symptoms, been asymptomatic or have been quite poorly but come through it ok. Going beyond that though, people I know have had friends and family die from it, including one poor sod in his 30s with no known health problems. It just seems arbitrary how badly you are affected. I guess there must be some factor that determines that but until they figure it out it's all very uncertain and unpleasant.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 29, 2021, 14:02:53 pm
I know of an NHS nurse who was desisting the vaccine. Her family has been trying to persuade her to have it, she has worked on Covid wards as part of a secondment at Walsgrave. I dont know why she is opposed to it, I regard her as ultimately sensible otherwise.
I also know of a care home worker at my elderly aunts home who will not have it. My aunt has had it aged 96 without l effect.
A good friend of mine who works in private healthcare in germany will not have it unless he's forced to by the authorities, nor will his wife or their eenage son, but he's a wacko and no one is telling him otherwise.
I'm first inline when my time comes.

So to be clear, people are refusing a vaccine where there are currently no reported deaths as a result of it being administered? Consequently they run the risk of contracting a virus that has killed millions, seems sensible? I’m having it, say no more.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on January 29, 2021, 18:53:46 pm
So to be clear, people are refusing a vaccine where there are currently no reported deaths as a result of it being administered? Consequently they run the risk of contracting a virus that has killed millions, seems sensible? I’m having it, say no more.
Mad isnt it?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 27, 2021, 21:49:34 pm
Just spent another 10 days isolating after testing positive again. That’s a few times now. Had the jab as well.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on February 27, 2021, 23:32:15 pm
I had Covid last month. Would not recommend although not as bad as I was led to believe. Boring, really. You think you're done and then you still can't go back to work.
Mum n Dad have both had their first doses and and where do I queue for mine? Get those pubs open


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 28, 2021, 09:36:07 am
Just spent another 10 days isolating after testing positive again. That’s a few times now. Had the jab as well.

That is a problem, the amount of people believing that by having the vaccine, it will prevent you from catching the virus.
In reality, it just means that it will be 'less likely' that you will die after catching it...  8)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 28, 2021, 11:37:14 am
That is a problem, the amount of people believing that by having the vaccine, it will prevent you from catching the virus.
In reality, it just means that it will be 'less likely' that you will die after catching it...  8)

I’ve tested positive a few times now, but so far fortunately, I’ve always been pretty much asymptomatic. I have met/spoke to few others now from hospitals that I travel around through work, who have had a similar experience. No testing for another 90 days now. So at least I’m free to roam at the moment 🦠 🦠


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 17, 2021, 11:39:44 am
Had my first jab this morning, can feel my arm going a bit but appears to be alright so far.
Going by the age demographic, I suspect that there have been a few on here who have been jabbed already?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 17, 2021, 13:16:30 pm
Had my first jab this morning, can feel my arm going a bit but appears to be alright so far.
Going by the age demographic, I suspect that there have been a few on here who have been jabbed already?

I'm only in my mid forties so still waiting for an invite, although I know a fair few people now of around my age who have already been invited to have it even though they have no underlying conditions. I think there's an element of pot luck around the demographics of where you live and which GP you are registered with.

I want mine!  ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3063 on March 17, 2021, 13:30:55 pm
Had my first jab this morning, can feel my arm going a bit but appears to be alright so far.
Going by the age demographic, I suspect that there have been a few on here who have been jabbed already?

You wait until a little bit later Deepcut. I had mine yesterday, had the chills in the evening - couldn't get warm. Then the headache came and generally feeling a little under the weather. Today I still have a slight headache but okay in general.

I am happy to suffer some symptoms, just glad to get it done.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3338 on March 17, 2021, 14:55:45 pm
Had my first jab this morning, can feel my arm going a bit but appears to be alright so far.
Going by the age demographic, I suspect that there have been a few on here who have been jabbed already?
Had my first 20th Feb. AZ. No sore arm chills or headache but randomised muscle aches and some cramps in smaller peripheral muscles. Unsure if it was coincidence or causative.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on March 18, 2021, 11:04:39 am
I'm 51 and had the Oxford jab last week. I went to bed feeling fine and woke up a couple of hours later with uncontrollable shivering and cold sweats. Temp of 38.2 the next morning and my whole body feeling as though I'd been run over. The following day I just had a dull headache and then the following day fine. Bizarre how it can make you feel so rough within 8 hours and then straight back to normal after 48 hours. Hoping my body is better prepared for when the second one comes around!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on March 19, 2021, 08:32:01 am
I know people who had the normal flu jab that had reactions like this, one of the reasons I never had it, but I think I will accept the side effects on this one.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Carton Lid on March 19, 2021, 23:35:10 pm
I had mine just over a month ago, they bent three needles trying to get into my arm because I'm that hard ! ;)

No side effects at all.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 26, 2021, 09:35:57 am
Due my last one on Monday. Like I said though, I caught it again (allegedly) two weeks after the last vaccine. I have managed to test positive 4-5 times now  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on March 26, 2021, 10:19:36 am
Due my last one on Monday. Like I said though, I caught it again (allegedly) two weeks after the last vaccine. I have managed to test positive 4-5 times now  ;D ;D
I think in time it will be found lots of tests were false positives, and false negatives too. It shouldn't be a great surprise when the development period was so short.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on March 26, 2021, 11:28:25 am
I think in time it will be found lots of tests were false positives, and false negatives too. It shouldn't be a great surprise when the development period was so short.

I tend to get tested a few times a week on the LFD tests, due to working in Hospitals and care facilities all over the place. So I am always being tested. In my experience, the LFD (rapid tests) are pretty much useless. However, I do think the PCR test is a lot more accurate. I have only tested positive twice on them  ;D ;D

Good thing, is that I can go 90 days now between a test. 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 27, 2021, 16:04:51 pm
https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/jeder-zweite-erwachsene-geimpft-was-die-briten-besser-machen-75810964.bild.html
Always good to hear what the others think of us...positive news doesn't make headlines in our newspapers.  ;)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on March 27, 2021, 21:06:27 pm
https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/jeder-zweite-erwachsene-geimpft-was-die-briten-besser-machen-75810964.bild.html
Always good to hear what the others think of us...positive news doesn't make headlines in our newspapers.  ;)
Quite. The government haven't got much right in the past year with regards Covid but the vaccination program is one area that they have done


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 19, 2021, 13:45:51 pm
Second jab done... 8)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on May 19, 2021, 19:35:33 pm
Second jab done... 8)

I'm not having it. I know it is only an excuse to inject me with a tracking chip so that they can control me through the signals from the 5G masts and do this so that they can stop me from exposing the truth that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old and man walked on the Earth at the same time as the dinosaurs.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 28, 2021, 23:32:21 pm
Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on May 29, 2021, 07:43:05 am
Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.

😂😂😂.



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on June 02, 2021, 19:58:38 pm
Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.
I'm sure it was an accident. Well, nearly sure. Does she read your posts on here by the way?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 03, 2021, 09:24:12 am
Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.
Had she been on the Baileys again?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 03, 2021, 16:43:23 pm
Had she been on the Baileys again?
Does a bear sh1t in the woods?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 03, 2021, 19:17:43 pm
Apart from Koalas, do you have any bears down there?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on June 03, 2021, 20:06:23 pm
Well, no real surprise. There is now a black market in forged vaccination certificates in the fatherland, at the end of the day this is going to be everywhere as people with no vaccination are excluded from events or travel. Unfortunately to do such exclusion is tantermount to facism.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 03, 2021, 20:29:52 pm
Well, no real surprise. There is now a black market in forged vaccination certificates in the fatherland, at the end of the day this is going to be everywhere as people with no vaccination are excluded from events or travel. Unfortunately to do such exclusion is tantermount to facism.

I’m not sure about over there. But over here, I’m sure they can check the validity of your vaccine via your NHS number if required. My vaccine, whilst done at work, was still registered with the NHS by the provider.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on June 03, 2021, 20:57:10 pm
I’m not sure about over there. But over here, I’m sure they can check the validity of your vaccine via your NHS number if required. My vaccine, whilst done at work, was still registered with the NHS by the provider.

The problem comes down to is it legal/moral to penalise people for not having the vaccine?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: southofthecounty on June 03, 2021, 21:28:12 pm
The problem comes down to is it legal/moral to penalise people for not having the vaccine?
To jail or fine them? Certainly not. To prevent them infecting themselves and others? Yeah, I think so.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 03, 2021, 23:59:35 pm
It’s the moral dilemma. Do you support peoples freedom of choice whilst potentially exposing the population to increased risk, and to some extent imposing the consequence of that choice on others? Or do you force people to vaccinate abusing their liberties and protect the masses as much as reasonably practicable? The individual answer will invariably come down to circumstance. If either you or a loved one are at significant risk you are more likely to answer differently to a person who is in the position that neither they or loved ones fall into that category?

My personal view is that given the amount of global deaths and long term medical impact on significant numbers, as a society we have a collective duty of care to ensure we are taking all reasonable steps to minimise the risk for the majority. That usually means following the recommendations of persons and bodies qualified to make a balanced assessment and final judgment. However, whichever option is most likely to deliver the best result by percentage is generally perceived to be the correct one.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 04, 2021, 08:59:09 am
It’s the moral dilemma. Do you support peoples freedom of choice whilst potentially exposing the population to increased risk, and to some extent imposing the consequence of that choice on others? Or do you force people to vaccinate abusing their liberties and protect the masses as much as reasonably practicable? The individual answer will invariably come down to circumstance. If either you or a loved one are at significant risk you are more likely to answer differently to a person who is in the position that neither they or loved ones fall into that category?

My personal view is that given the amount of global deaths and long term medical impact on significant numbers, as a society we have a collective duty of care to ensure we are taking all reasonable steps to minimise the risk for the majority. That usually means following the recommendations of persons and bodies qualified to make a balanced assessment and final judgment. However, whichever option is most likely to deliver the best result by percentage is generally perceived to be the correct one.

I’ll give that a hell yeah


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 04, 2021, 16:30:35 pm
It's a moot point as I'm sure it will never happen, but I'd be in favour of vaccines being mandatory for everyone without a valid medical reason for having one. In the absence of that I see nothing wrong in making things difficult for the anti vax brigade to go about their business by introducing vaccine passports for international travel, festivals, theatres, nightclubs etc.

I'm sick of hearing people in their twenties bleat on about the risk being greater than the reward for them as they won't get that ill from it. Yeah, you're probably right, you won't, but by not being vaccinated you are allowing the virus to hop from one person to another and the risk of a further mutation increases with every hop, increasing the likelihood of it either reaching a stage where it DOES affect them or, more likely, reach a stage where it can get past the vaccine which will put us right back where we started from.

It's a case of taking a tiny risk for the greater good, and some of the poor little flowers think it's too much of a risk for their precious little selves.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on June 04, 2021, 22:18:02 pm
It's a moot point as I'm sure it will never happen, but I'd be in favour of vaccines being mandatory for everyone without a valid medical reason for having one. In the absence of that I see nothing wrong in making things difficult for the anti vax brigade to go about their business by introducing vaccine passports for international travel, festivals, theatres, nightclubs etc.

I'm sick of hearing people in their twenties bleat on about the risk being greater than the reward for them as they won't get that ill from it. Yeah, you're probably right, you won't, but by not being vaccinated you are allowing the virus to hop from one person to another and the risk of a further mutation increases with every hop, increasing the likelihood of it either reaching a stage where it DOES affect them or, more likely, reach a stage where it can get past the vaccine which will put us right back where we started from.

It's a case of taking a tiny risk for the greater good, and some of the poor little flowers think it's too much of a risk for their precious little selves.

I love it when they claim it wont be a problem for those in the 18-30 bracket, because that's a crock of shít. The infection figures do nothing to support that theory. And WTF are they going to do now with the increasing infection rate of the Indian variant?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 05, 2021, 07:32:23 am
I love it when they claim it wont be a problem for those in the 18-30 bracket, because that's a crock of shít. The infection figures do nothing to support that theory. And WTF are they going to do now with the increasing infection rate of the Indian variant?
Nothing. You have to get back to normal, if you dont, the economy explodes. We are billions in debt, how much more do you want?
Have your jab, get back to work. Its nothing more than a nasty flu.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 18, 2021, 22:25:54 pm
Not been reported in the UK yet but psycho-snob is in trouble again, brains of a rocking horse.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-19/katie-hopkins-visa-cancelled-deported-channel-seven/100303648


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on July 19, 2021, 12:49:24 pm
Day 1 observations of 'no restrictions'
Workplace hasn't really changed...2m social distancing, mandatory masks when leaving your work station but temp checking on entry removed.
Out and about in shops, it appears the vast majority of customers (I've seen) are still wearing masks but staff have quickly dumped them on the whole.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 22, 2021, 19:23:03 pm
Yeah, I guess there is a difference between wearing them for 20 minutes while you do your shop and having them on for 8 hours straight.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3429 on July 23, 2021, 07:25:59 am
Just a perspective from a small island in SE Asia.

As Thailand scrambles around for a coherent plan for accepting tourism again they have been quickly pumping vaccines into the now "open" islands of Phuket, Koh Samui, Koh Phangan and Koh Tao before other areas of the country, to the point the island has taken tougher security measures as non locals and Myanmar immigrants have been sneaking in, coming ashore on private boats. You now have to prove you are a long term resident to gain a vaccine here.

As a note they have only been providing Sinovac or Sinopharm to Myanmar and Cambodian workers and some Thais but providing AstraZeneca to westerners and Thais who prefer it.

Every person on the island has at least had one jab, or at least those who want it. There is a huge group of young, wealthy (but playing poor) western, trustafarian "hippies" and yoga nutters who are not just deniers they are raging war on those who have had one. They will not go near anyone who has the vaccine as they shed.  ??? I had to collect a guest from a yoga school yesterday and had forgot to remove my mask, the glares I received! Luckily I hadn't worn my flip flops as shoes are banned too! #boxoffrogs

Their anti stance will continue until mummy and daddy require them to return home to Islington.

Oh and the Crypto miners here think its all a financial reset and don't believe covid even exists.

Same as at home really.  ;D

Coming to a town near you soon....


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 25, 2021, 06:31:32 am
I wasn't sure whether to post this in here or in a new topic under the Cobblers section, but the press are reporting today that you'll have to be double jabbed to be allowed into matches. I can't see the club are going to be pleased about this, not least because of the amount of admin it's going to create for them.

Personally, I think it's a good thing and I'd extend it to entry to most venues and events - in the absence of a way to make the vaccine compulsory this is the next best way to force people's hands!

Edit: I don't think this will apply to us a they appear to be talking about venues with a capacity >20k.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 26, 2021, 11:32:39 am
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1467641/where-double-jab-needed-list-premier-league-mandatory-covid-vaccine-passport-evg


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on July 26, 2021, 14:22:00 pm
Well at least we don't fall into the events with more than 20,000 people catagory. It is going to make getting into a listed event a very slow process.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on August 04, 2021, 14:10:20 pm
With the drop in cases and ever increasing vaccination rate it does feel like life is getting back to 'normal' a bit. After the mask compliance initially staying high, I've noticed a growing number of people choosing not to wear them. Guessing a vast number have uninstalled track and trace and trying to get on with life. The economy certainly needs it and I'm sure the end of furlough will signal another wave of unemployment, although there is no shortage of work out there.
They'll undoubtedly be ongoing doom mongering, new variant talk etc, but I'm enjoying some normality. Some time in the future the reporting will become less intense, unless we are going to have a daily league table of total deaths by cause!
It was great to attend an outdoor comedy event in St Albans at the weekend with a couple of thousand people and no restrictions.
Think I'll wait until 2022 for the next trip abroad.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 06, 2021, 22:38:54 pm
Throughout history the human race has endured countless pandemics and over come the lot, almost all of them without a vaccine. I think we should remember that when looking for positives.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 12, 2021, 19:55:36 pm
Is anyone seriously still listening to the lying, hypocritical, buffoon anymore?
They are clearly making it up as they go along, without heeding their own advice. Clueless.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Shoemender on December 13, 2021, 11:19:14 am
Is anyone seriously still listening to the lying, hypocritical, buffoon anymore?
They are clearly making it up as they go along, without heeding their own advice. Clueless.

Unfortunately they are and they'll still vote for him or one of his cronies.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 15, 2021, 17:23:35 pm
The general consensus around me (work environment) is that we need to knuckle down and crack on. I’m still wary of the virus but totally agree. It’s here to stay and the stop/start and economic damage is catastrophic. That’s without the impact of missed GP appointments and negative impact on the treatment of other illnesses.
Out of 40 people at work we genuinely haven’t had a single case since the start, which probably drives the mindset somewhat (we’ve been careful but very lucky) but I’m hearing more and more about covid fatigue. I’m sure they’ll be new variants, fresh boosters and the cycle will continue for now.
You get jabbed, most will be OK, some will be very ill, some will sadly still pass away. You don’t get jabbed and the risk increases but it needs to be a personal choice as we don’t hear much about it restricting transmission. Maybe ban cigarettes and face obesity head on. Meanwhile parliament lose credibility by the day as each breach unravels.
The shelves are half full/empty and you pretty much have the selection of your employment of choice.

It’s time to support businesses local and national, keeping a more pragmatic approach, which I guess they are trying to. Any Christmas restrictions will be pretty fruitless IMO.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on December 15, 2021, 20:07:25 pm
Looking forward to them bringing in another variant of 'the rule of six'' for me to ignore


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 16, 2021, 14:22:54 pm
Looking forward to them bringing in another variant of 'the rule of six'' for me to ignore

I think they realise that's a little futile this time around. Boosting their way through it, whilst the virus itself seems pretty unstoppable. It's definitely time now for those who have escaped it so far to have their dose and get some proper antibodies. Boosting and herd immunity is really the only option. The extremely vulnerable will naturally shut themselves away more and those people need the relevant support.
Regardless of how devastating these covid related deaths are, the direct links to preventable underlying conditions needs to be focused on. The same demographic of people were ultimately dying prematurely through other causes but of course there will be an exception of minority cases.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2021, 14:35:57 pm
Last year the PM and the Government were slammed by the media for ‘cancelling Christmas’

This year they do things differently and say to the public ‘act sensibly’ and decide for yourself, and now they get slammed by Doomsberg and the pest Peston for not putting more restrictive measures in place.

The opportunist Starmer savages Johnson calling him weak and of displaying no leadership, then votes the measures proposed by the PM/Government through the Commons, so then he can say ‘you only won it with our support’

Aren’t we all getting a bit tired of all the shenanigans now?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 16, 2021, 15:20:46 pm
Last year the PM and the Government were slammed by the media for ‘cancelling Christmas’

This year they do things differently and say to the public ‘act sensibly’ and decide for yourself, and now they get slammed by Doomsberg and the pest Peston for not putting more restrictive measures in place.

The opportunist Starmer savages Johnson calling him weak and of displaying no leadership, then votes the measures proposed by the PM/Government through the Commons, so then he can say ‘you only won it with our support’

Aren’t we all getting a bit tired of all the shenanigans now?

Bojo and his cronies lost any credibility once the first few tens of thousands died, followed by Cummings, Hancock and the No.10 Christmas rave series. It is chilling just how ineffective the labour party are that they aren't streets ahead in any poll.
The way they are handling it now is about the most sensible approach they have taken so far, which is probably famous last words as they launch some hairbrained scheme in the new year.
People can take their own risks and the vast majority are not going to end up in hospital and/or die. There is no way to stop the virus behaviourally by playing the hokey cokey or else it would have happened by now.

The rule of 20:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lockdown-party-downing-street-b1977367.html
 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 16, 2021, 15:50:00 pm
Last year the PM and the Government were slammed by the media for ‘cancelling Christmas’

This year they do things differently and say to the public ‘act sensibly’ and decide for yourself, and now they get slammed by Doomsberg and the pest Peston for not putting more restrictive measures in place.

The opportunist Starmer savages Johnson calling him weak and of displaying no leadership, then votes the measures proposed by the PM/Government through the Commons, so then he can say ‘you only won it with our support’

Aren’t we all getting a bit tired of all the shenanigans now?

Yes... ;)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3063 on December 16, 2021, 16:08:59 pm
Last year the PM and the Government were slammed by the media for ‘cancelling Christmas’

This year they do things differently and say to the public ‘act sensibly’ and decide for yourself, and now they get slammed by Doomsberg and the pest Peston for not putting more restrictive measures in place.

The opportunist Starmer savages Johnson calling him weak and of displaying no leadership, then votes the measures proposed by the PM/Government through the Commons, so then he can say ‘you only won it with our support’

Aren’t we all getting a bit tired of all the shenanigans now?

Don't you just love the British media and politics in general.  Good points GPC and all correct. 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on December 16, 2021, 18:06:47 pm
Crack on…Omicron is nowhere near as bad as the classic man-flu. FACT*

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-most-cases-now-like-severe-cold-and-omicron-appears-to-produce-fairly-mild-illness-expert-says-12497094

*not an actual fact.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on December 18, 2021, 13:43:15 pm
Lockdown coming, we’re all DOOMED.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: everbrite on December 30, 2021, 10:01:48 am
Last year the PM and the Government were slammed by the media for ‘cancelling Christmas’

This year they do things differently and say to the public ‘act sensibly’ and decide for yourself, and now they get slammed by Doomsberg and the pest Peston for not putting more restrictive measures in place.

The opportunist Starmer savages Johnson calling him weak and of displaying no leadership, then votes the measures proposed by the PM/Government through the Commons, so then he can say ‘you only won it with our support’

Aren’t we all getting a bit tired of all the shenanigans now?

Good post GPC . 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Peter Frost on December 30, 2021, 17:46:00 pm
Whilst I don’t agree with the decision I defend the right to not be vaccinated providing individuals respect restrictions that may apply to them however the individuals who intimidated staff and trashed equipment at a Milton Keynes vaccination centre are beyond contempt.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 30, 2021, 19:23:31 pm
Whilst I don’t agree with the decision I defend the right to not be vaccinated providing individuals respect restrictions that may apply to them however the individuals who intimidated staff and trashed equipment at a Milton Keynes vaccination centre are beyond contempt.
Probably looking for somewhere to sleep for the night.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 30, 2021, 20:42:51 pm
Bojo and his cronies lost any credibility once the first few tens of thousands died, followed by Cummings, Hancock and the No.10 Christmas rave series. It is chilling just how ineffective the labour party are that they aren't streets ahead in any poll.
The way they are handling it now is about the most sensible approach they have taken so far, which is probably famous last words as they launch some hairbrained scheme in the new year.
People can take their own risks and the vast majority are not going to end up in hospital and/or die. There is no way to stop the virus behaviourally by playing the hokey cokey or else it would have happened by now.

The rule of 20:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lockdown-party-downing-street-b1977367.html
 

Now I’m not a fan of BoJo but I think he’s done ok with recent COVID stuff. It’s the morons he surrounds himself with - Hancock, DC, Lady Dido, Raab, Simon Case, Moggy etc that have let him down.
While I’m at it, he should get praise for the Furlough programme and at least making some sort of effort on climate change.
I think he is a better PM than Cameron as well. Who must win the award for doing more to fcuk us all than BJ and COVID put together!
Happy with that Manny??


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Bingers on December 31, 2021, 13:05:49 pm
Now I’m not a fan of BoJo but I think he’s done ok with recent COVID stuff. It’s the morons he surrounds himself with - Hancock, DC, Lady Dido, Raab, Simon Case, Moggy etc that have let him down.
While I’m at it, he should get praise for the Furlough programme and at least making some sort of effort on climate change.
I think he is a better PM than Cameron as well. Who must win the award for doing more to fcuk us all than BJ and COVID put together!
Happy with that Manny??

Nurse, nurse, quick, take his temperature, I think he is going with something. He seems to be having hallucinations. That's Jim, but not as we know him.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2022, 09:08:07 am
https://twitter.com/NorthantsCCC/status/1477641327160528898?t=fODzUVahf5vcSz-dFxRE6A&s=19

An option for anyone who hasn't any or all, who would wish to... 8)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest49 on March 03, 2022, 13:48:50 pm
I can see the talk of the virus on the match thread, which would quickly descend into handbags if posted there. At least here not many see it  ;D

I have a differing view. If you are asymptomatic, firstly you are unlikely to know you have Covid anymore. If you have mild symptoms and test, you won't get a PCR test to confirm.
So you have lateral flows (until you have to buy them) and left with a good idea that you are positive but feel OK or OKish. The actual reasons and relevance of testing are quickly diminishing.
I would defend anyone who wished to go about their day. Whether that is football, shopping, out for dinner etc. Maybe wear a mask and maybe stay away if you are hacking away. 

The strategy has moved on and it is no longer deemed as a huge threat, which is being backed up by the 'science'. If it is a bigger threat to those who chose not to vaccinate, that's a different discussion.
I have heard of more positive cases in the past couple of weeks since the start of the pandemic, at least a dozen. Not one has been remotely ill to the extent of proper man flu.
There are 200 odd people in intensive care across the country. How many are unvaccinated and how many others were already of very poor health? How does this compare to business as usual?

The government can't remove ALL restrictions and rely on a common approach.
 
The other thing it has done is create absolute chaos for employers. This is where the goal posts move a bit. Now an employer needs to decide if they want to allow known positive cases in. Even more complicated when you factor in company sick pay schemes, bonus schemes for attendance, disciplinary action, considerations for nearby employees, working from home/unable to work from home inconsistencies.
My large employer is currently struggling to navigate the wide open interpretation of how to manage covid. At the moment I wouldn't let a know positive into the building but I'd also think twice before looking to restrict sick pay and any other penalties.

It is not going anywhere, the vast, vast majority will breeze through it and you don't need an excuse if you don't want to endure the bums on seats football.     


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 08, 2022, 10:00:38 am
Didn't feel too good Tuesday (a bit of man-flu?), tested positive Wednesday morning and three days in, still not feeling too healthy.
I've had all three vaccines, so hopefully it's just a case of riding it out. 8)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on April 08, 2022, 15:58:05 pm
Didn't feel too good Tuesday (a bit of man-flu?), tested positive Wednesday morning and three days in, still not feeling too healthy.
I've had all three vaccines, so hopefully it's just a case of riding it out. 8)

I was quite poorly with it recently mate. Bizarrely, it was my fourth time with it. The first time was a couple of days after the original lock down. So no jab, but was totally asymptomatic. Second and third time the same, but I'd had two vaccines at that time. The last time, a couple of months ago, all boostered up, I was quite poorly. Odd considering it’s supposed to be the mildest variant.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: DavCobb on September 16, 2024, 15:44:51 pm
Over two years since the dreading rona made T.H.E. news.

Just battled a horrible case of it, picked up in Spain. Much worse than the first time I had it and was given breathing support overnight. Still feel pretty ropey a month later.
Suddenly you then hear of multiple cases around my small circle (not caught from me) and then it pops up on the BBC news site. I do know a few people who have had it 3 or 4 times.

I'm assuming it's out then again, just as I'd forgotten about it!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 16, 2024, 16:42:45 pm
Over two years since the dreading rona made T.H.E. news.

Just battled a horrible case of it, picked up in Spain. Much worse than the first time I had it and was given breathing support overnight. Still feel pretty ropey a month later.
Suddenly you then hear of multiple cases around my small circle (not caught from me) and then it pops up on the BBC news site. I do know a few people who have had it 3 or 4 times.

I'm assuming it's out then again, just as I'd forgotten about it!

I know quite a few people who've had it recently, similar to you, a lot worse than the first time.
It's never gone away.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 16, 2024, 16:56:04 pm
It isn't going to go away, the current strain, XEC, is likely to cause a wave of infection over the winter months. It's endemic, like the common cold and other respiratory viruses.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: itsme on September 16, 2024, 18:12:48 pm
I know more people who have had it in the last month or currently have it now

Also they say it's worse this time than the other times they have had it

I want to keep away from it had it 3 times already


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 16, 2024, 18:35:19 pm
I've still only had it the once. My wife had it 6 months or so back and despite sharing a bed I somehow avoided it!

I'm not keen on having it again though; it was only like a nasty cold for me in terms of the usual symptoms but I also had really painful eyes and terrible brain fog.

Ever since I've been conscious that my memory is nowhere near as good as it used to be before I had it, which apparently is one of the less widely reported side effects.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on September 16, 2024, 18:46:32 pm
Over two years since the dreading rona made T.H.E. news.

Just battled a horrible case of it, picked up in Spain. Much worse than the first time I had it and was given breathing support overnight. Still feel pretty ropey a month later.
Suddenly you then hear of multiple cases around my small circle (not caught from me) and then it pops up on the BBC news site. I do know a few people who have had it 3 or 4 times.

I'm assuming it's out then again, just as I'd forgotten about it!
Hope you are feeling better son mate.👍


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: MCHammer on September 17, 2024, 15:39:09 pm
Over two years since the dreading rona made T.H.E. news.

Just battled a horrible case of it, picked up in Spain. Much worse than the first time I had it and was given breathing support overnight. Still feel pretty ropey a month later.
Suddenly you then hear of multiple cases around my small circle (not caught from me) and then it pops up on the BBC news site. I do know a few people who have had it 3 or 4 times.

I'm assuming it's out then again, just as I'd forgotten about it!

Sorry to hear that mate and hope you are back to 100% soon.

I've also heard about it showing up again in my circle of friends.  Seems there is another new variant so immunisation not as efective yet again.  My kids are already both ill within a week of being back in college etc. although I don't think it's Covid.  I guess that will spread things again for a while. 


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: DavCobb on September 17, 2024, 16:18:03 pm
Thank you kind Manny and Hammer  :)

I'm far better now thank you...just not back up to 10,000 steps yet.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on September 17, 2024, 19:15:46 pm
Thank you kind Manny and Hammer  :)

I'm far better now thank you...just not back up to 10,000 steps yet.
👍


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 25, 2024, 15:59:37 pm
Oh good. I've just tested positive.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 25, 2024, 16:32:15 pm
Oh good. I've just tested positive.
Put your mask on, before you type.  :D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Bugbrooke Boy on September 25, 2024, 17:38:15 pm
Covid is just a hoax to control the masses


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 25, 2024, 17:42:57 pm
Covid is just a hoax to control the masses
Care to share that with the bereaved families of people I looked after who died of COVID19?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: tcobb on September 26, 2024, 15:37:55 pm
 Back in 2020 i had Covid and was really ill for 3 weeks, my wife ended up in hospital for 2 weeks and  she was told her Liver was failing and if it didnt start to recover she would need a transplant or die within a month. It took over 6 months to recover in the end. She caught it again in 2022 whilst we were on holiday but i didnt for some reason. Neither of us has caught it since, any idiot who things its a hoax needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror. Myself and the wife were fortunate at a time when a lot of people were not.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 27, 2024, 09:29:30 am
Oh good. I've just tested positive.

So....

Ladt week - The kids had a cold. We mocked one of them for coming home from school one day because of it.

Monday - I got a tickly cough and started sniffing a bit.

Tuesday - went out with work in the evening, felt fine. Got back to hotel room and had a bit of trouble breathing, put it down to my asthma and kicked myself for not bringing my inhaler with me. Woke up in the night and breathing was back to normal.

Wednesday  - at a meeting all day and felt pretty washed out throughout. Put it down to not sleeping well the night before. Got home and found that eldest child had tested positive on Tuesday but not said anything. Did a test and it was positive.

Thursday - felt slightly off but better than the previous day. Mild headache in the morning, disappeared after taking 2 paracetamol.

Friday - feel fine, did another test and it's negative, so should be alright for the match tomorrow!

I was a bit worried about this newer strain going around as I've heard several people say it's quite nasty, but for me I suspect given the timescales it was on the way out before I was even aware of it!



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 28, 2024, 11:06:01 am
I tested positive for COVID this morning, i've felt a bit meh for a few days, two tests yesterday were negative but it felt like i'd been hit by a bus last night. Shakes and shivers, a cough and muscle pains, and sore eyes and the trots just to add to the joy!  ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Worthless Recluse on September 28, 2024, 11:47:51 am
I tested positive for COVID this morning, i've felt a bit meh for a few days, two tests yesterday were negative but it felt like i'd been hit by a bus last night. Shakes and shivers, a cough and muscle pains, and sore eyes and the trots just to add to the joy!  ;D
Can I ask you (and BOTN) are you fully vaccinated? I'm due a booster but had a reaction to the last, one so a little undecided.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 28, 2024, 12:02:44 pm
Can I ask you (and BOTN) are you fully vaccinated? I'm due a booster but had a reaction to the last, one so a little undecided.

Yeah, I've had all the vaccines I was allowed but (even though I qualify for an annual flu jab because I have mild asthma) I don't qualify for an annual covid booster so it's been a couple of years since I had one. I think you have to be over 50 to qualify, and while I'm very nearly there I'm not quite!

Hope you're soon feeling better, XVK!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 28, 2024, 12:15:17 pm
Yeah, I've had all the vaccines I was allowed but (even though I qualify for an annual flu jab because I have mild asthma) I don't qualify for an annual covid booster so it's been a couple of years since I had one. I think you have to be over 50 to qualify, and while I'm very nearly there I'm not quite!

Hope you're soon feeling better, XVK!
Boosters are available for specific groups only, I haven’t had a booster since 2021 I think, but I was fully vaccinated at that point. And thank you BOTN 🙏


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 28, 2024, 12:18:40 pm
Yeah, I've had all the vaccines I was allowed but (even though I qualify for an annual flu jab because I have mild asthma) I don't qualify for an annual covid booster so it's been a couple of years since I had one. I think you have to be over 50 to qualify, and while I'm very nearly there I'm not quite!

Hope you're soon feeling better, XVK!

I've just been 'invited' to my winter COVID-19 vaccination, I'm 63 (64 in a couple of weeks) but I'm classed as 'at increased risk'.
I had COVID in 2020, which was more like a bad bout of man-flu, and again in 2023, which had me man-down for over a month.
I had a low level reaction to the last vaccination, but I'll still take up their offer, in order to maintain the full set.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Worthless Recluse on September 28, 2024, 12:45:36 pm
I've just been 'invited' to my winter COVID-19 vaccination, I'm 63 (64 in a couple of weeks) but I'm classed as 'at increased risk'.
I had COVID in 2020, which was more like a bad bout of man-flu, and again in 2023, which had me man-down for over a month.
I had a low level reaction to the last vaccination, but I'll still take up their offer, in order to maintain the full set.
I'm also early 60's and classed as at risk with cardiac problems. Had Covid 4 times with the 1st being by far the worst, was out of it for 48 hours, fortunately I'd already had my first jab. The next three were more like heavy colds. I've had every vaccination offered including last October and again this April, and it's this last one which caused further cardiac problems so I'm unsure atm if I should top up again.
Thanks for the replies.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 28, 2024, 13:10:16 pm
I'm also early 60's and classed as at risk with cardiac problems. Had Covid 4 times with the 1st being by far the worst, was out of it for 48 hours, fortunately I'd already had my first jab. The next three were more like heavy colds. I've had every vaccination offered including last October and again this April, and it's this last one which caused further cardiac problems so I'm unsure atm if I should top up again.
Thanks for the replies.

I'm not medically qualified so cannot and would not attempt to advise or provide an authoritive influence to you or anyone else, whatever the perception.
I can only provide detail of my own experiences and my intention.
As I've said previously, COVID-19 hasn't gone away, it's still out there.
I wish you good luck and good health, as for everyone, with whichever you/they decide.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 28, 2024, 13:42:24 pm
I'm also early 60's and classed as at risk with cardiac problems. Had Covid 4 times with the 1st being by far the worst, was out of it for 48 hours, fortunately I'd already had my first jab. The next three were more like heavy colds. I've had every vaccination offered including last October and again this April, and it's this last one which caused further cardiac problems so I'm unsure atm if I should top up again.
Thanks for the replies.
Speak to the clinicians involved in your care, they’re best qualified to advise. I was unwell for 24 hours after the first vaccination, but the others I had were fine other than a sore arm


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on September 28, 2024, 19:38:48 pm
DO NOT TAKE THIS UNTESTED VACINE.
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 28, 2024, 20:02:23 pm
DO NOT TAKE THIS UNTESTED VACINE.
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment
Have you been drinking?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 28, 2024, 20:16:09 pm
DO NOT TAKE THIS UNTESTED VACINE.
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

FFS, do you even read any of the stuff you post before you post it?

This link applies to vaccines for:

coronavirus (COVID-19)
diphtheriahaemophilus influenzae type b (Hib
)human papillomavirus
influenza, except for influenza caused by a pandemic
influenza virus
measles
meningococcal group B (meningitis B)
meningococcal group C (meningitis C)
meningococcal group W (meningitis W)
mumps
pandemic influenza A (H1N1) 2009 (swine flu) - up to 31 August 2010
pertussis (whooping cough)
pneumococcal infection
polio
myelitis
rotavirus
rubella (German measles)
smallpox - up to 1 August 1971
tetanus
tuberculosis (TB)

Are you saying they are all untested and we shouldn't take any of them?

I turn a blind eye to most of your nonsense because a) I think your are on a wind up most of the time and b) even if you aren't, you are entitled to your beliefs but propagating this sort of bullshìt is actually dangerous.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 29, 2024, 10:50:17 am
I'm booked in for my BOGOF COVID-19 and Influenza jabs on Thursday.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 29, 2024, 11:11:58 am
b) even if you aren't, you are entitled to your beliefs but propagating this sort of bullshìt is actually dangerous.
Nice to see that you believe an official government website to be bulls***.  ;D


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 11:16:45 am
I'm booked in for my BOGOF COVID-19 and Influenza jabs on Thursday.
Flu jab week after next if I've recovered from this bout of COVID-19, I'm not eligible for a COVID jab currently


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 29, 2024, 11:21:32 am
Nice to see that you believe an official government website to be bulls***.  ;D

Within which, no where does it state that the vaccines listed are untested or shouldn't be taken?
Propagating personal opinion as FACT is dangerous.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 29, 2024, 13:51:23 pm
If you follow the advice of the majority of qualified medical opinion you will be stacking the odds in your favour without exception, FACT.

Decision making made easy.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 29, 2024, 15:06:40 pm
Within which, no where does it state that the vaccines listed are untested or shouldn't be taken?
Propagating personal opinion as FACT is dangerous.
The only dangerous thing is believing what Manny says!


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 29, 2024, 15:14:00 pm
Within which, no where does it state that the vaccines listed are untested or shouldn't be taken?
Propagating personal opinion as FACT is dangerous.

Precisely.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Manwork04 on September 29, 2024, 19:53:56 pm
As of 10 April 2023, a total of 50 648 deaths caused by ‘COVID vaccines’ had been reported in EudraVigilance – broken down by disease (heart conditions, central nervous system disorders, etc.).


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 20:17:47 pm
I've had 4 COVID vaccinations, other than flu like symptoms after the first one I haven't had any issues. I have COVID-19 at present and would happily receive another booster if I was eligible. If you don't want one, that's fine and is your choice


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 20:24:31 pm
There have been reported 7,065,867[4] (updated 29 September 2024) confirmed COVID-induced deaths worldwide. As of January 2023, taking into account likely COVID induced deaths via excess deaths, the 95% confidence interval suggests the pandemic to have caused between 19.1 and 36 million deaths.[5][6]
Via Wikipedia


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 20:28:17 pm
The latest available analysis is December 2022.

In England, there are 59 deaths registered involving COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use, of which 51 have this ICD-10 code as the underlying cause of death.

In Wales, there is 1 death registered with COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use as the underlying cause.
From the office for national statistics ONS


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on September 29, 2024, 21:06:32 pm
There have been reported 7,065,867[4] (updated 29 September 2024) confirmed COVID-induced deaths worldwide. As of January 2023, taking into account likely COVID induced deaths via excess deaths, the 95% confidence interval suggests the pandemic to have caused between 19.1 and 36 million deaths.[5][6]
Via Wikipedia

"COVID-induced" Does that mean that the victim had health problems that were exasperated by the virus?


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 21:18:46 pm
"COVID-induced" Does that mean that the victim had health problems that were exasperated by the virus?
In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 29, 2024, 21:26:02 pm
In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.
You have more experience than me in this matter, but hows that work then? Could a long standing illness or condition, be recorded as covid induced?
If so, it would appear that the official figures may be way off.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on September 29, 2024, 21:34:48 pm
In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.

The reporting here was based on people dying who had no other conditions other than the virus and this was why the death figures here were significantly lower the the UK, however where applicable covid was reported as a contributing factor especially in the case of people suffering from respiratory illnesses, but not the primary cause of death.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 21:42:35 pm
You have more experience than me in this matter, but hows that work then? Could a long standing illness or condition, be recorded as covid induced?
If so, it would appear that the official figures may be way off.
No, but a long term condition could be exacerbated by a Covid infection, for example, you have COPD and type 2 diabetes and you caught COVID, the chances of surviving the Covid infection would be lower due to the other conditions. It’s one of the reasons why Covid related deaths in the UK were as high as they were, it was a governmental decision to record deaths that way



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 29, 2024, 21:48:15 pm
The reporting here was based on people dying who had no other conditions other than the virus and this was why the death figures here were significantly lower the the UK, however where applicable covid was reported as a contributing factor especially in the case of people suffering from respiratory illnesses, but not the primary cause of death.
Note I said “a cause” and not “the cause”


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: singcobb on September 29, 2024, 21:49:56 pm
Note I said “a cause” and not “the cause”

Yes, but in many cases it was reported as the primary cause, later to be corrected by the coroner.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 29, 2024, 21:56:10 pm
No, but a long term condition could be exacerbated by a Covid infection, for example, you have COPD and type 2 diabetes and you caught COVID, the chances of surviving the Covid infection would be lower due to the other conditions. It’s one of the reasons why Covid related deaths in the UK were as high as they were, it was a governmental decision to record deaths that way


Interesting. So the cause of death, would be listed as Covid, when that was only a contributing, and not a sole factor. Thats one of the reasons that I dont trust stats, as they can all be twisted around to suit an agenda. I suppose that they they had to justify the costs of the barely used Nightingale hospitals somehow.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on September 30, 2024, 03:01:31 am
I don't know why people take the advice of people in the medical profession when there are perfectly good investigative journalist types like that Alex Jones of Infowars fame revealing the real truth. Apart from making tens of millions of dollars in advertising revenue what exactly does he have to gain by endorsing any so called "inaccurate conspiracy theories"?

On a seperate note the latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that all of these theories are started by people in it for the money, but I don't believe it.


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 30, 2024, 06:54:50 am
Interesting. So the cause of death, would be listed as Covid, when that was only a contributing, and not a sole factor. Thats one of the reasons that I dont trust stats, as they can all be twisted around to suit an agenda. I suppose that they they had to justify the costs of the barely used Nightingale hospitals somehow.
Only if there were no other medical conditions. Perfectly healthy people died of COVID, it caused multiple organ failure. If there were no co morbidities then COVID was recorded as the cause of, rather than a contributing cause


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: guest3687 on September 30, 2024, 07:02:23 am
I’d rather not go over it again, it was an horrendous time and I’d like to try and forget it 👍


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: MCHammer on September 30, 2024, 09:51:27 am
As of 10 April 2023, a total of 50 648 deaths caused by ‘COVID vaccines’ had been reported in EudraVigilance – broken down by disease (heart conditions, central nervous system disorders, etc.).

For everyone that might want clarity on this figure here's the full context of where it's cut and pasted from....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html)

and here is the answer to the question....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html)


Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 30, 2024, 10:38:50 am
For everyone that might want clarity on this figure here's the full context of where it's cut and pasted from....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html)

and here is the answer to the question....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html)

Nicely researched. Always better to pull numbers from the answer rather than the question, I find!

So basically the maximum amount of people to have died within the EU due to complications arising from the covid vaccine is less than 12k. Obviously, that's still a lot of people but a vaccine is just a form of medicine, and pretty much all medicines can lead to adverse reactions in people.

According to this https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations?country=~OWID_EUR

by the same date there had been 1.39bn vaccine doses administered in Europe. Granted, one is quoting EU numbers and the other is just stating Europe so it's probably not quite comparing apples with apples, but broadly speaking we're in the same ballpark. Which means that statistically you have around a 0.00086% chance of dying by being vaccinated.

Which is only 0.00085% more likely than being hit by lightning in Britain!  (according to numbers quoted by the BMJ on the frequency of people getting hit by lightning)



Title: Re: Coronavirus COVID 19?
Post by: Bugbrooke Boy on October 01, 2024, 18:14:30 pm
I see Boris is convinced the virus was started in a Chinese Lab. Not being led by the science now, then. Also, not sure you van believe anything habitual liars say.