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Title: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 16, 2020, 05:58:25 am
Transfer rumours, speculation and confirmations in here:

Starting off with Harry McKirdy who I believe, has been released by Carlisle. Although he occasionally frustrates home fans, he's only 23 and he gets bums off seats... A bit of an X Factor/Marmite player.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 16, 2020, 07:39:09 am
Transfer rumours, speculation and confirmations in here:

Starting off with Harry McKirdy who I believe, has been released by Carlisle. Although he occasionally frustrates home fans, he's only 23 and he gets bums off seats... A bit of an X Factor/Marmite player.

Didnít he make some kind of disparaging comment about the atmosphere at sixfields when he was on loan at Newport after we beat them? To be fair he was probably right as it was a cold Tuesday night.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 16, 2020, 11:03:16 am
Didn’t he make some kind of disparaging comment about the atmosphere at sixfields when he was on loan at Newport after we beat them? To be fair he was probably right as it was a cold Tuesday night.

We'd probably be the best crowd and atmosphere he's ever played in front of if he was here...footballers normally know what to say and when to say it in that regard... ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on May 16, 2020, 11:25:23 am
Charlie Goode to mk dons


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Vintage Cobbler on May 16, 2020, 11:34:46 am
Kelvin Thomas on a free to Inter Miami CF


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 16, 2020, 11:45:09 am


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 16, 2020, 13:50:42 pm
Charlie Goode to mk dons

Hopefully just a rehash of the rumour in the January window - heís far too good for them, probably could do a job in the championship. Having said that money talks.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BMON on May 16, 2020, 16:31:52 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 02, 2020, 11:19:28 am
Danny hylton and Elliot lee  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2020, 11:37:47 am
Danny hylton and Elliot lee  ;)


Neil Frampton - AFC Dons; fee maybe required.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 02, 2020, 12:24:55 pm


Neil Frampton - AFC Dons; fee maybe required.

Thereís no one by that name at AFC Wimbledon - thereís an Andy frampton but heís in his 40ís!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 02, 2020, 12:51:56 pm
So far not a lot of quality being released from League Two - I agree with Deepcut that McKirdy is a interesting player and potentially would work well for us in the no.10 role. Also I think he is from the midlands so could be tempted?

I had a look at some players that might be a good fit + would improve us in League One. All appear to be out of contract

- Ali Crawford (Bolton) - A talented Scottish central midfielder. Maybe slightly out of our budget
- Janoi Donacien (Ipswich) - A pacey central defender previously at Accrington that hasn't really made an impact at Ipswich
- Alex Gilbey (MK Dons) - A technical box-to-box midfielder, probably wouldn't be interested in us but it is a local move so maybe
- Jordy Hiwula (Coventry) - A pacey striker who scored 12 league goals last year but hasn't played much for Cov this year
- Max Ehmer (Gillingham) - A powerful centre back at a good age
- Ollie Banks (Tranmere) - Although he wasn't very good before on loan here apparently he has become a good little playmaker
- Jerry Yates (Rotherham) - A forward that we were supposedly close to signing in January
- Oliver Hawkins (Portsmouth) - A target man, not that we necessarily need more of them...
- Josh Laurent (Shrewsbury) - A good forward thinking midfielder, but probably out of our league
- Josh Vickers (Lincoln) - A keeper who made some incredible saves against us in opening game of last season
- Alex Woodyard (Peterborough) - Very highly rated for Lincoln but not made it at boro so will probably become available

Not sure quite how many of these will become free agents or who would actually consider a move to us but some there are some decent players around for sure


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 02, 2020, 16:19:09 pm
Presuming any new signings are delivered by DHL (APC and they'll never arrive)...dropped at the bottom of the steps at Sixfields, photo taken and then onto Trust Pilot to review their performances!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 02, 2020, 16:30:04 pm
Presuming any new signings are delivered by DHL (APC and they'll never arrive)...dropped at the bottom of the steps at Sixfields, photo taken and then onto Trust Pilot to review their performances!

Hopefully it'll be Hermes* - we'll get all the individual notifications that they are coming to build anticipation but they don't arrive. Then, just when you think none of them are going to happen, they all turn up at the same time when the lazy bastard delivery driver decides he has a big enough pile to make it worth the trip. It'll be Like Forrester, Gabbiadini and Hargreaves all over again!

* This is the only context that phrase will ever be used. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2020, 18:39:15 pm
Thereís no one by that name at AFC Wimbledon - thereís an Andy frampton but heís in his 40ís!

Andy as you say - thought he was in his 30's! Fine footballer and played for English Schools. Captain material but now too long in the tooth! Pity!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 02, 2020, 19:35:12 pm
Hopefully it'll be Hermes* - we'll get all the individual notifications that they are coming to build anticipation but they don't arrive. Then, just when you think none of them are going to happen, they all turn up at the same time when the lazy bastard delivery driver decides he has a big enough pile to make it worth the trip. It'll be Like Forrester, Gabbiadini and Hargreaves all over again!

* This is the only context that phrase will ever be used. ;D
Great Trust Pilot review of Hermes!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 02, 2020, 20:16:22 pm
Presuming any new signings are delivered by DHL (APC and they'll never arrive)...dropped at the bottom of the steps at Sixfields, photo taken and then onto Trust Pilot to review their performances!
DHL. Where I live, there a couple of commercial premises over the road, they have been closed for obvious reasons. DHL turn up, and dont know what to do. Running around and banging on doors. Now this I can understand, but I had been down the shop for essential supplies (beer). The driver saw me walking down the road, and jumped out begging me to sign for a parcel. Who I was, or where I lived didnt matter. He just wanted a signature. That is wrong. Anything of value could have been in that parcel. I declined his request, and he was not happy.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: clarkeysntfc on June 03, 2020, 11:41:08 am
Given the financial situation in football due to the pandemic, I think it will be a buyers market this summer that is for sure.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: exiledinspace on June 03, 2020, 16:18:13 pm
DHL. Where I live, there a couple of commercial premises over the road, they have been closed for obvious reasons. DHL turn up, and dont know what to do. Running around and banging on doors. Now this I can understand, but I had been down the shop for essential supplies (beer). The driver saw me walking down the road, and jumped out begging me to sign for a parcel. Who I was, or where I lived didnt matter. He just wanted a signature. That is wrong. Anything of value could have been in that parcel. I declined his request, and he was not happy.

Shame, might have been drugs? Next time, sign Micky Mouse, no Micky Mellon and leg it. Win win!

As you say, they don't care, grab the parcel, could be anything? (A secret scouting video to keep on topic)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: exiledinspace on June 03, 2020, 16:25:46 pm
Given the financial situation due to the pandemic, I think it will be a buyers market this summer that is for sure.

Are you selling anything?

As a side note it might be good for members here to connect if financial issues arise, it's always better to talk. It's clear some here do have some expertise and why not help a fellow Cobbler first? Difficult times ahead.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Why? on June 03, 2020, 22:01:20 pm
Are you selling anything?

As a side note it might be good for members here to connect if financial issues arise, it's always better to talk. It's clear some here do have some expertise and why not help a fellow Cobbler first? Difficult times ahead.

Good man for raising this!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 09, 2020, 10:48:16 am
Lloyd Jones has now left the building, he will not figure in the play off games.....he will also not play for Luton again. Quite a few teams in for him including Plymouth but a couple of foreign teams have offered contracts to him also (one team if I told you, you would be shocked at, considering their stature in the world game).


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: clarkeysntfc on June 09, 2020, 11:55:19 am
Lloyd Jones has now left the building, he will not figure in the play off games.....he will also not play for Luton again. Quite a few teams in for him including Plymouth but a couple of foreign teams have offered contracts to him also (one team if I told you, you would be shocked at, considering their stature in the world game).

If the other defenders are fully fit then I think that's not such a big loss.

It would be good if the Arsenal midfielder was available though...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 09, 2020, 12:12:08 pm
If the other defenders are fully fit then I think that's not such a big loss.

It would be good if the Arsenal midfielder was available though...

Itís a shame as I donít think we saw the best of LJ but it probably wasnít his fault as you could argue that he was never fully match fit/sharp. As clarkeys says, if Wharton, Goode and Turnbull are all fit/available then Lloyd would have been on the bench anyway. Regarding olayinka I think itís a different case to jones in that jones is going to be out of contract with Luton whereas olayinka and Morton are both still under contract with their parent clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 09, 2020, 12:30:35 pm
Believe it or not he has been offered 2 grand a week at Inter Milan and also 1 grand a week at a Finnish team.....I spat my tea in shock when his brother told me about the Inter link. He was massively rated when at Liverpool and I guess their scouting team have identified him as a very cheap option which could come good!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 09, 2020, 13:25:17 pm
Believe it or not he has been offered 2 grand a week at Inter Milan and also 1 grand a week at a Finnish team.....I spat my tea in shock when his brother told me about the Inter link. He was massively rated when at Liverpool and I guess their scouting team have identified him as a very cheap option which could come good!

These sorts of rates of pay are not that unusual for League 2 players. The £1k is bog standard ordinary for a 1st teamer and £2k better than average but I bet we have at least 6 players on that or more.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 09, 2020, 15:11:03 pm
Believe it or not he has been offered 2 grand a week at Inter Milan and also 1 grand a week at a Finnish team.....I spat my tea in shock when his brother told me about the Inter link. He was massively rated when at Liverpool and I guess their scouting team have identified him as a very cheap option which could come good!

no one believes the inter milan link


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 09, 2020, 15:39:16 pm
Nor do I.....but his brother is adamant the offer has been made! I also disbelieve him when he said lloyd was signing for cobblers....we shall see! I am not attention seeking just stating what I've been told!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2020, 14:17:31 pm
Some of the retained lists make interesting reading - Sc***horpe getting rid of Cameron Burgess, Andy Butler, Adam Hammill, Rory McArdle and James perch, and Mansfield releasing Neal Bishop, Craig Davies, Otis Khan, Alex MacDonald, Bobby Olejnik, Krystian Pearce and Matt Preston. Most interesting is Colchester who are in the other playoff - they have announced that Luke Prosser, Frank Nouble, Ryan Jackson and Brandon Comley will all be released - Iím pretty sure that they are all key men in their first XI so it will be interesting to see if any of them refuse to play a la Lyle Taylor.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: MK_Cobbler on June 10, 2020, 15:26:31 pm
Believe it or not he has been offered 2 grand a week at Inter Milan and also 1 grand a week at a Finnish team.....I spat my tea in shock when his brother told me about the Inter link. He was massively rated when at Liverpool and I guess their scouting team have identified him as a very cheap option which could come good!

He wasn't very good. An average league 2 CB.

Certainly didn't live up to your hype.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: clarkeysntfc on June 10, 2020, 15:54:04 pm
Some of the retained lists make interesting reading - Sc***horpe getting rid of Cameron Burgess, Andy Butler, Adam Hammill, Rory McArdle and James perch, and Mansfield releasing Neal Bishop, Craig Davies, Otis Khan, Alex MacDonald, Bobby Olejnik, Krystian Pearce and Matt Preston. Most interesting is Colchester who are in the other playoff - they have announced that Luke Prosser, Frank Nouble, Ryan Jackson and Brandon Comley will all be released - Iím pretty sure that they are all key men in their first XI so it will be interesting to see if any of them refuse to play a la Lyle Taylor.

High earners = no new contracts.

Clubs will be reducing expenditure on wages at a rate of knots this summer.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 11, 2020, 08:17:54 am
High earners = no new contracts.

Clubs will be reducing expenditure on wages at a rate of knots this summer.

yep - there will be a lot of big earners in lower leagues dissappointed with offers and looking to move elsewhere, before finding out no clubs have any money and being out on their arse!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 11, 2020, 10:56:52 am
This must mean Charlie goose is going to Barca then, because Lloyd Jones is half the player Goode is


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 11, 2020, 22:39:29 pm
Resign bayo?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 12, 2020, 11:18:18 am
Resign bayo? Why because you think Charlie is a goose....we shall see where Lloyd ends up....I will categorically state he will end up playing above league 2 next season. I just hope we will jump a division also via the play-offs!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 12, 2020, 11:42:18 am
Resign bayo?
Good luck to him in the league one play offs, chance to add another promotion to the two league two ones in recent years.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 12, 2020, 14:17:22 pm
Resign bayo? Why because you think Charlie is a goose....we shall see where Lloyd ends up....I will categorically state he will end up playing above league 2 next season. I just hope we will jump a division also via the play-offs!

Charlie is a goose?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 12, 2020, 15:47:57 pm
This must mean Charlie goose is going to Barca then, because Lloyd Jones is half the player Goode is

I must admit, as the season went on the more and more I resigned myself to the fact that it will be a miracle if Goode is still with us next season. I just hope we get what heís worth (whatever that may be) but itís typical that the ar*e has dropped out of the transfer market.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on June 12, 2020, 19:34:27 pm
I must admit, as the season went on the more and more I resigned myself to the fact that it will be a miracle if Goode is still with us next season. I just hope we get what heís worth (whatever that may be) but itís typical that the ar*e has dropped out of the transfer market.

I wouldn't do the club and Curle down so much. It didn't work for him at Scunny and he's certainly enjoying his football with us. He's club captain and there's no reason he should risk all that by jumping ship. I'm looking forward to wincing at his gamesmanship when we are next allowed in Sixfields.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2020, 19:37:49 pm
Charlie is a goose?

 ;D yu are on fire now - keep it up 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2020, 19:42:19 pm
Resign bayo?

Yu are emerging as top comic on here - keep it up....please


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 12, 2020, 20:32:47 pm
Yu are emerging as top comic on here - keep it up....please

Canít tell if ur taking the **** to be honest, from what Iíve seen youíve always been quite sarcastic 🤷🏻‍♂️


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 13, 2020, 17:40:26 pm
Canít tell if ur taking the **** to be honest, from what Iíve seen youíve always been quite sarcastic 🤷🏻‍♂️

definitely not as its good to have a bit of humour on here. Always the same ; easy to get wrong end of stick as I often do  ;)
 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 14, 2020, 01:55:47 am
definitely not as its good to have a bit of humour on here. Always the same ; easy to get wrong end of stick as I often do  ;)
 

🙏🙏


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 14, 2020, 09:06:09 am
I wouldn't do the club and Curle down so much. It didn't work for him at Scunny and he's certainly enjoying his football with us. He's club captain and there's no reason he should risk all that by jumping ship. I'm looking forward to wincing at his gamesmanship when we are next allowed in Sixfields.


Iím not sure how Iím supposed to be doing the club and Curle down in my original post, Iíve no doubt that heís loving it here but my point was that he is - in my opinion - head and shoulders the best centre back in league 2 and there is bound to be plenty of interest in him whenever the transfer window reopens.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 14, 2020, 09:12:41 am
I’m not sure how I’m supposed to be doing the club and Curle down in my original post, I’ve no doubt that he’s loving it here but my point was that he is - in my opinion - head and shoulders the best centre back in league 2 and there is bound to be plenty of interest in him whenever the transfer window reopens.

I wouldn't say that he is 'head and shoulders the best centre back in League 2', he still has a number of faults that would be exposed to a greater extent than they have been with us, but he's got stacks of potential and should eventually play at a higher level. 
Even if we are promoted, I can see other teams in League 1 and even the Championship coming in for him.
Remember that he is still only 25 in August, we'll do well to keep hold of him...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 14, 2020, 09:35:16 am
I wouldn't say that he is 'head and shoulders the best centre back in League 2', he still has a number of faults that would be exposed to a greater extent than they have been with us, but he's got stacks of potential and should eventually play at a higher level. 
Even if we are promoted, I can see other teams in League 1 and even the Championship coming in for him.
Remember that he is still only 25 in August, we'll do well to keep hold of him...

That was the point I was trying to make - Iím probably getting a bit carried away but I honestly canít think of many centre backs better than him at this level. I would have thought that training under Curle who was a top level, international centre back has improved him and will hopefully continue to improve him next season. I donít know what his contract situation is but we wouldnít want to be going into the last year of his deal. Hopefully I havenít put the kiss of death on him for Thursday!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 14, 2020, 10:33:53 am
That was the point I was trying to make - Iím probably getting a bit carried away but I honestly canít think of many centre backs better than him at this level. I would have thought that training under Curle who was a top level, international centre back has improved him and will hopefully continue to improve him next season. I donít know what his contract situation is but we wouldnít want to be going into the last year of his deal. Hopefully I havenít put the kiss of death on him for Thursday!
If we win the playoffs he will stay no question


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 14, 2020, 12:32:40 pm
That was the point I was trying to make - Iím probably getting a bit carried away but I honestly canít think of many centre backs better than him at this level. I would have thought that training under Curle who was a top level, international centre back has improved him and will hopefully continue to improve him next season. I donít know what his contract situation is but we wouldnít want to be going into the last year of his deal. Hopefully I havenít put the kiss of death on him for Thursday!

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/defender/charlie-goode/

3 year contract from last Summer 2019.

Keep if we are promoted I would have thought. If we stay in League 2 it changes things considerably for him if other better placed clubs are interested.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on June 14, 2020, 15:06:43 pm
Think Charlie is overrated myself. Its poor division, wait till he comes up against better quality strikers. Blood and guts, and an ability to go down and win fouls won't always get him through.
That said, I'm pleased we've had him this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: MK_Cobbler on June 14, 2020, 20:45:10 pm
we shall see where Lloyd ends up....I will categorically state he will end up playing above league 2 next season. I just hope we will jump a division also via the play-offs!

It would be strange for him to turn down the offer from Inter Milan  :o :o



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 14, 2020, 21:08:57 pm
What we need is an Emile Sinclair esc player, he would do wonders in league 1 next season with his pace and raw goal scoring ability


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: andycobbler on June 14, 2020, 21:34:30 pm
What we need is an Emile Sinclair esc player, he would do wonders in league 1 next season with his pace and raw goal scoring ability
And the ability to fall over at a sniff.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on June 15, 2020, 09:16:45 am
It would be strange for him to turn down the offer from Inter Milan  :o :o


Not if he gets the call to go and play abroad at Wrexham. With a name like Lloyd Jones.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2020, 11:17:00 am
Think Charlie is overrated myself. Its poor division, wait till he comes up against better quality strikers. Blood and guts, and an ability to go down and win fouls won't always get him through.
That said, I'm pleased we've had him this season.

He did ok against Derby, Exeter and Plymouth ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on June 15, 2020, 13:48:00 pm
He did ok against Derby, Exeter and Plymouth ::)
Merely my opinion Evers, that's all.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on June 16, 2020, 15:51:11 pm
Just saw a report about Rhys Bennett from posh, not sure if thereís any truth in the link however


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 16, 2020, 21:41:06 pm
Merely my opinion Evers, that's all.

Just a counter opinion from me.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 03, 2020, 00:12:08 am
So now we've heard the retained list... Whos got the insider knowledge on Curles wish list!?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 03, 2020, 05:22:52 am
It is reported that approaches have already been made to some players and will be stepped up now we know what league we are in.

Complications like not knowing when the season will start makes planning uncertain.

My priorities would be the signing of the two loan players Wharton and Morton. Adding two more strikers with pace, two footballing midfielders and a left back...........easy?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 03, 2020, 08:33:15 am
Rumours i've seen so far are...

George Thomas (ex Cov/Leicester)
Jamie Devitt (again! - still got a year left at Blackpool so not sure we would pay a fee for him)
Emmanuel Osadebe

Probably all bollox with their agents just touting them about


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 03, 2020, 09:02:14 am
It is reported that approaches have already been made to some players and will be stepped up now we know what league we are in.

Complications like not knowing when the season will start makes planning uncertain.

My priorities would be the signing of the two loan players Wharton and Morton. Adding two more strikers with pace, two footballing midfielders and a left back...........easy?
Plus another centre half to replace Turnbull
 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 03, 2020, 09:22:13 am
Plus another centre half to replace Turnbull
 

Probably will need three new centre backs won't we, if three at the back is retained?

Jay Williams gone too, remember.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 03, 2020, 09:29:56 am
Rumours i've seen so far are...

George Thomas (ex Cov/Leicester)
Jamie Devitt (again! - still got a year left at Blackpool so not sure we would pay a fee for him)
Emmanuel Osadebe

Probably all bollox with their agents just touting them about

This is somewhat tongue in cheek, but he just helped me get promotion to the Championship in football manager, so knowing nothing about him in real life I'd be a fan of that.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 03, 2020, 10:15:31 am
Just seen via the Chron that Curle's already met with one player about signing and has started other convos

"I met with a player on Wednesday and I'm due to have another meeting with him, either on Friday or Monday, but ultimately the decision comes down to - does he see this as the right move for him?"

Have to say one thing I have liked about Curle has been recruitment. JFH winter window of madness saw a lot brought in for a payday or ridiculous contracts at this level. Curle has genuinely looked strict on signing players who want to be there and will listen to him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 03, 2020, 14:12:06 pm
We have lost 16 players, 13 released and the 3 loans going back to their parent clubs. Of these 16 I would only expect 8 to be replaced as 6 of the released players were youngsters  and together with Hall-Johnson and Waters and not close to the first team. This also takes 8 players off the wage bill but most would have been low earners.
KC has peviously stated wanting 2 players for each position so with this in mind I see us wanting the following replacements based on the following criteria:-
1.The 3 players offered new contracts accept.
2.The players already under contract for next season remain. If we are successful in moving any of them on then they would also need replacing.
3.We continue to play 3-4-1-2 as per the last few games.
Goalkeeper. I hope that Cornell's replacement is going to be someone who can challenge Arnold for the jersey and not a cheap understudy to sit on the bench. Cornell had faults but also made some stunning instinctive saves, have not yet seen these from Arnold but he coped admirably with what little he had to do in the last 2 games. I prefer a keeper who is going to come for crosses and command his area rather than one who does not come off his line.
Strikers. 2 needed with hopefully 1 being the return of Morton, the other being a similar type of player as we have 2 target men.
Player behind the front 2. I assume this will be Hoskins role now with Warburton as back up.
Wide men. We have Harriman who has performed consistently, usually on the right. Marshall also usually on the right but either capable of playing on the left. Assuming Adams maintains form and remains injury free he will be a fixture on the other side. Young Roberts and Martin also left sided. With some players being flexible which side they play and also Hoskins can play wide will KC think he has enough cover?
Midfield 2. Watson will continue to be first choice providing he maintains form and fitness.which means we need a replacement for McCormack - preferably a similar tough tackler. Lines, McWilliams and Pollock as back up.
Defensive back 3. Only Goode remains and apart from Jones being here for a few weeks we have not had cover but Harriman and Martin have both played there when needed. In fact I know that we have not seen Martin play much but I thought when he played in the back 3 he probably had his best game. Overall I think we need to sign 3 with 1 hopefully being the return of Wharton.
Comments have been made regarding some of the players contracted for next season but we have had past players who have not impressed in their first season but then come good. Remember CW put JJO't on the transfer list.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on July 03, 2020, 14:36:14 pm
Has Keith allowed Turnbull  to go (surprised me) to free up wages to allow us to make an offer for Wharton?  He would be an excellent permanent  signing and Blackburn do not seem to need  him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 03, 2020, 15:10:30 pm
Turnbull was the last big money signing by JFH during the 5U Sport era - where the money never actually materialised!

KC said Turnbull has been on "high end L1 wages" ever since signing and thought it would be insulting to offer him such a reduced wage and that he probably would not have been incentivized like he has been on a reduced wage.

I absolutely love Turnbull and would have offered him something but completely understand the reasoning behind it.

KC has dramatically reduced the wage bill since coming in, and has now got us promoted on a significantly reduced budget from the one he inherited. He's maintaining good house keeping which is exactly what's required more than ever in the current climate.

There are going to be hundreds of quality players out of contract so it's up to Simon Tracey etc to find us another Morton/Wharton etc.

At least we ain't got Melville shopping for us!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 03, 2020, 16:34:29 pm
Turnbull could come back if he can't find a suitable club, to play for us on that reduced contract?  A possibility?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 03, 2020, 17:00:45 pm
You'd think that one year contracts at an affordable level would be popular for both player and club. Player and club benefit and next renegotiation at a point in time when we've got a clearer picture with regard to the virus going forward.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Why? on July 03, 2020, 20:36:53 pm
Chambers to return to finish his career, as Ipswich are looking for a replacement Championship-level central defender.

Jacobs to pop back on loan (or permanent), as Wigan are up the spout.

A random signing of McGeady from Sunderland, so that we are over-blessed with wide players.

A mad signing of Ravell Morrison on loan from Sheffield United.  (he is not mad.... and he is real quality.  He needs a manager that will take his time with him. A perfect match with Curley-Cobblers).

Sheffield Weds prospect on loan....  Hunt.

Non-league prospects..... Holohan from Hartlepool (like for like with Warburton).  Reprise of Kane Ferdinand.  Adams from Barnet.  Plus... top-tip.... Nolan from Halifax.

You heard it here, first.

That is, aside from my predictions of the success under Curle.  Eat my sh(ee)t, you message-board tw@ts.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 03, 2020, 20:42:37 pm
Are you off your meds?  Try going and lying down in a dark room.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Why? on July 03, 2020, 20:47:38 pm
Are you off your meds?  Try going and lying down in a dark room.

Thank you for your input.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 03, 2020, 21:50:45 pm
Turnbull could come back if he can't find a suitable club, to play for us on that reduced contract?  A possibility?

That's what I heard


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 03, 2020, 22:15:50 pm
Chambers to return to finish his career, as Ipswich are looking for a replacement Championship-level central defender.

Jacobs to pop back on loan (or permanent), as Wigan are up the spout.

A random signing of McGeady from Sunderland, so that we are over-blessed with wide players.

A mad signing of Ravell Morrison on loan from Sheffield United.  (he is not mad.... and he is real quality.  He needs a manager that will take his time with him. A perfect match with Curley-Cobblers).

Sheffield Weds prospect on loan....  Hunt.

Non-league prospects..... Holohan from Hartlepool (like for like with Warburton).  Reprise of Kane Ferdinand.  Adams from Barnet.  Plus... top-tip.... Nolan from Halifax.

You heard it here, first.

That is, aside from my predictions of the success under Curle.  Eat my sh(ee)t, you message-board tw@ts.

McGeady is 34yrs winger
Hunt is possibility only 20yrs midfielder
Chambers is 34yrs central def
Jacobs a possibility especially if Wigan go bust
Ravel Morrison aged 27yrs - midfielder cant see KC entertaining this guy.
Holohan Midfielder doubtful 
Kane Ferdinand - no chance Ex Cobblers who failed here
Charlie Adams - Barnet, another Midfielder  - doubtful
Nolan Halifax - another mid fielder also doubtful

Interesting set of names too many wingers and midfielders not enough scorers let alone defenders.

Keep 'em coming tho'.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Why? on July 04, 2020, 00:29:49 am
McGeady is 34yrs winger
Hunt is possibility only 20yrs midfielder
Chambers is 34yrs central def
Jacobs a possibility especially if Wigan go bust
Ravel Morrison aged 27yrs - midfielder cant see KC entertaining this guy.
Holohan Midfielder doubtful 
Kane Ferdinand - no chance Ex Cobblers who failed here
Charlie Adams - Barnet, another Midfielder  - doubtful
Nolan Halifax - another mid fielder also doubtful

Interesting set of names too many wingers and midfielders not enough scorers let alone defenders.

Keep 'em coming tho'.

Old heads required at this level for us to gain stability.

Playing 3-5-2 requires a flood of midfielders.

If we finish next season above 17th, then, that is success.

A couple of big names will come in.... the type of names you think "why did they sign for us?"  But most will be players that you have never heard of (and wished you did, once they play).

My sources?  Usually Mayonnaise-based......


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 04, 2020, 13:59:40 pm
KC has said that he has spoken to WBA and Blackburn about the possibility of Morton and Wharton returning next season. Noticably he has not mentioned Olayinka.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Peles Big Toe on July 04, 2020, 15:46:27 pm
My prediction is Curle will opt for players who look underwhelming on paper but can thrive on our style of football. (i.e. hardworking and physical) I don't think anyone could have predicted Oliver to be as integral to our season as he was.

And as has been commented elsewhere, given Covid we're likely to see much tighter squads across the league than before. This might mean we'd potentially be able to secure players of a higher calibre just from the allure of job security, especially those getting into their 30s.

Aside from the obvious CB requirements, the priorities for me;

Defensive wing-backs (x2): both as cover for Harriman and a defensive alternative to Adams against bigger clubs.

Energetic DM: straight replacement for Macca but ideally with more mobility. Fitness permitting I reckon McWilliams is more than capable, however we'd still probably want a more senior player as well.

Mobile strikers (x2): one loanee, one permanent. Ideally Morton, but if not a player of that ilk that runs the channels all game and feed off Oliver. Smith wont be good enough for League One, but adequate cover for Oliver.

Utility men (x2): players that can fill various roles as injury covers. Thinking of someone like David Hunt, or more recently the role Hoskins has done for us. Don't need to be technically brilliant, just hard working and stick to Curles gameplan.

I'm genuinely optimistic about next season and think we'll surprise a few. Say what you want about Curle, but if we do go down you know it will be with a fight rather than the complete capitulation like the previous two relegations.

Will say any idea of Ravel Morrison joining us is complete fantasy. Huge wages, absolutely no inclination or motivation to play for a club our size, and completely at odds with the style of football and personality Curle likes.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 04, 2020, 16:33:41 pm
Probably one of the most interesting close seasons in many a year due to various clubs financial position? Doing business early may be regrettable, as I expect quite a few quality players may hold out for big money and then struggle to find a club? On the other hand if you delay you may miss out altogether, so do you stick or twist? The holy grail of signings is a 20 goal+ a season striker so any deal for Morton has to be a priority, obviously along with replacements for McCormack and Turnbull? A big ask but as others have said KCs recruitment to date has been exceptional, so I am personally very hopeful there is some real quality on the horizon?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 04, 2020, 22:59:36 pm
Rhys Bennett was mentioned earlier in the thread and has been released by Posh


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: southofthecounty on July 05, 2020, 08:51:46 am
1,400

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53282799


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 05, 2020, 14:11:23 pm
So we have 14 players under contract with a further 3 offered new contracts, however 2 of the squad were academy players last season.

Full list (Under contract):

Joe Martin, Charlie Goode, Ryan Watson, Harry Smith, Nicky Adams, Scott Pollock, Chris Lines, Shaun McWilliams, Matt Warburton, Morgan Roberts, Steve Arnold, Jacob Ballinger, Ethan Johnston & Mark Marshall.

Offered contracts:

Sam Hoskins, Vadaine Oliver & Michael Harriman.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 05, 2020, 15:35:03 pm
The latest Chron interview with KT suggests that no players will be announced until registration opens, which he guessed to be 1st August.

He also - and I maybe am being cynical here - seemed to pave the somewhat for a sale for Charlie Goode this summer. Personally I don't think we should entertain any offers unless they are in the sort of territory that other League One clubs command; ie comfortably upwards of £1million. You only have to look to Aaron Pierre who is now wanted by Championship sides to know that we don't hold on to our talented players long enough nor put up enough resistance to get true value for them.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gonzales on July 05, 2020, 15:49:06 pm
Rhys Bennett was mentioned earlier in the thread and has been released by Posh

Fairly versatile as tho heís mainly a CB he can also play as a defensive mid or a full back which would be ideal for us. Would hope heíd be keen to do over Posh for releasing him too. He does stream on twitch so you could go ask him directly if heís had Curle on the phone 🤣

Hard agree on keeping hold of players like Goode. We are always terrible at keeping hold of people and then it comes back to bite us... An even more pertinent example is Toney. Boro looking for about £8m for him this summer and thereís not only prem clubs but even RB Leipzig battling to get him. I donít know how much we got for him but Iím going to wager it was nowhere near £8m, or even £1m.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 05, 2020, 16:21:16 pm
Fairly versatile as tho heís mainly a CB he can also play as a defensive mid or a full back which would be ideal for us. Would hope heíd be keen to do over Posh for releasing him too. He does stream on twitch so you could go ask him directly if heís had Curle on the phone 🤣

Hard agree on keeping hold of players like Goode. We are always terrible at keeping hold of people and then it comes back to bite us... An even more pertinent example is Toney. Boro looking for about £8m for him this summer and thereís not only prem clubs but even RB Leipzig battling to get him. I donít know how much we got for him but Iím going to wager it was nowhere near £8m, or even £1m.

I'm fairly sure £250k has been widely quoted on here.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 05, 2020, 16:52:28 pm
Regards the players weíve offered contracts to...
Iím not fussed whether they sign or not
Personal opinion oliver has played well but we have smith who is younger and if Oliver left there will be plenty of more experienced higher level target men available for nowt.
That said if he signs then Iím fine with that

Harriman Iíd quite like to keep but again there will be plenty of options available who have played championship league one level

Contentious but I wouldnít give to figs if sam Hoskins goes elsewhere for more money , he has been found to not be league one standard last time round and I hope we donít feel that we have to push the boat out as he is easily replaceable with a better standard of player imo

For example george Thomas or sam Hoskins for the same money??


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shadowstorm on July 05, 2020, 17:07:30 pm
I'm pretty sure we would have only got a sell on when he moved to boro'. Any sell on clause regarding Toney would be to Newcastle's benefit not ours.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 05, 2020, 18:24:31 pm
I'd love to see us go for Frank Nouble, who has recently been released by Colchester. I thought he looked great for them in the playoffs, really strong, quick, brings others into play, and is a very decent dribbler. He'd do great in our system.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 05, 2020, 18:27:53 pm
Shay McCartan is another good option - nippy forward released from Bradford who could replace Morton if we are not able to bring him back.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 05, 2020, 18:57:28 pm
Mickel Miller, who we were rumoured to be interested in has signed a 2 year deal at Rotherham United.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 05, 2020, 20:17:43 pm
Remember when we played Lincoln first game of season 2018-19 and they beat us 1-0 after we had been by far the better team. Their played a blinder saving about 5 one on ones amongst other saves, his name was Josh Vickers and he has been released and still only 24.
A number of our former players have been released including Joel Byrom, Joe Bunney and Rod McDonald.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 05, 2020, 20:39:36 pm

Contentious but I wouldnít give to figs if sam Hoskins goes elsewhere for more money , he has been found to not be league one standard last time round and I hope we donít feel that we have to push the boat out as he is easily replaceable with a better standard of player imo

For example george Thomas or sam Hoskins for the same money??

You have got to be kidding or a troll, Sam Hoskins has grown into practically being the beating heart of the club. Top scorer and top bloke - crap haircut though.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Air-Dan on July 05, 2020, 21:50:17 pm
Rod McDonald to come back please. That'd be lovely


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 05, 2020, 23:17:24 pm
Seemingly signing players with oodles of talent hasnít been a problem for us over the last 4 seasons? Signing players with the right mental attitude who are prepared to play for the shirt is entirely another matter? Saying it doesnít matter if this or that player leaves because there are many more quality fish in the sea isnít entirely true at this level. No one wants to see an influx of hands down the shorts pitch amblers and dressing room wreckers do we? I personally think KC is a different proposition in the recruitment stakes, but I canít help fretting.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 05, 2020, 23:26:50 pm
Chris Solly right back released by Charlton maybe in the frame. Would have thought salary might be a big ask?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 06, 2020, 09:26:50 am
Losing Goode would be a serious blow , especially with Turnbull and probably Wharton going as well .
I think the recruitment team are much better under Curle and I have more faith in us making the right decisions this time around . Having said that , we have been left with some pups on contract this season that are his higher profile signings .
There will be a lot of surplus players available this season though and I wouldnít be surprised to see the loan system relaxed to help clubs in difficulty


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on July 06, 2020, 14:18:07 pm
Remember when we played Lincoln first game of season 2018-19 and they beat us 1-0 after we had been by far the better team. Their played a blinder saving about 5 one on ones amongst other saves, his name was Josh Vickers and he has been released and still only 24.
A number of our former players have been released including Joel Byrom, Joe Bunney and Rod McDonald.

Vickers always looked good whenever I saw Lincoln play over the last 1-2 years. Was surprised he'd been released, but having looked at the story it seems the financial situation has mean Lincoln couldn't risk offering new contracts. Bostwick and Eardley have been released by them as well for the same reasons, both good players for League 1 and up for grabs.

With the fallout from the COVID situation this is going to be one of the strangest transfers window and probably seasons as well.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 06, 2020, 15:01:34 pm
I'd love Vickers in to compete with Arnold. Don't know how realistic that is

To be honest I'm so excited about promotion and what will be a very interesting window, I will take literally any rumours right now

Come on, surely someones aunties dog walkers best mates heard from their neighbour that some footballers wife is shopping for a house in Kingsthorpe or something rogue. FEED THE RUMOUR MILL


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 06, 2020, 20:48:05 pm
Remember when we played Lincoln first game of season 2018-19 and they beat us 1-0 after we had been by far the better team. Their played a blinder saving about 5 one on ones amongst other saves, his name was Josh Vickers and he has been released and still only 24.
A number of our former players have been released including Joel Byrom, Joe Bunney and Rod McDonald.

Did Joe Bunney ever make an appearance for Bolton in the end?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 06, 2020, 20:58:31 pm
Did Joe Bunney ever make an appearance for Bolton in the end?

2 according to Wiki.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 07, 2020, 12:04:13 pm
Could we be interested in Nathan Smith from Port Vale who has rejected a new contract as he wants to play in a higher division. Came through their youth system, centre back who in the last 4 seasons has played a total of 199 games and scored 11 goals. Still only 24 and could be a shrewd addition to our squad if we could get him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 07, 2020, 13:18:33 pm
Could we be interested in Nathan Smith from Port Vale who has rejected a new contract as he wants to play in a higher division. Came through their youth system, centre back who in the last 4 seasons has played a total of 199 games and scored 11 goals. Still only 24 and could be a shrewd addition to our squad if we could get him.
I donít know the player but I do know Port Vale defended superbly against us at Sixfields and KC would have taken a lot of notice that day


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 07, 2020, 14:18:27 pm
Could we be interested in Nathan Smith from Port Vale who has rejected a new contract as he wants to play in a higher division. Came through their youth system, centre back who in the last 4 seasons has played a total of 199 games and scored 11 goals. Still only 24 and could be a shrewd addition to our squad if we could get him.

Can't see it. He's been touted by Championship clubs for a couple of years now, he's out of contract so he'll have his pick.

We won't be paying silly wages again (thankfully!) nor should we as there'll be plenty of unattached half decent players available.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 07, 2020, 14:53:30 pm
I donít know the player but I do know Port Vale defended superbly against us at Sixfields and KC would have taken a lot of notice that day

I agree that port vale defended very well in that game but Nathan smith only came on for the last 5 minutes, I think he was coming back from injury.  Iíve always been impressed by Leon legge but at his age I canít see him playing at a higher level.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 07, 2020, 14:57:07 pm
The one thing I do think we need going up a level is experience as weíve lost McCormack,Turnbull and Williams and I think that experience will be missed in league one if not replaced...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on July 07, 2020, 15:01:59 pm
2 according to Wiki.


Had that car crash and did not return until January.


https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18188912.bolton-defender-joe-bunney-battling-back-car-crash-injuries/


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 07, 2020, 15:30:02 pm
The one thing I do think we need going up a level is experience as weíve lost McCormack,Turnbull and Williams and I think that experience will be missed in league one if not replaced...

I agree that having an experienced pro around who is a good character Is so important and can bring up the performances of those playing around him which is why releasing McCormack was a big disappointment.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on July 07, 2020, 16:00:30 pm
As great a player McCormack has been, he is past his best, hardly managed to keep fit to play in League Two, League One would be too far a jump for him in terms of fitness.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 07, 2020, 16:16:21 pm
I agree that having an experienced pro around who is a good character Is so important and can bring up the performances of those playing around him which is why releasing McCormack was a big disappointment.

We definitely need a player of that type. Shaun McWilliams may yet grow into that role but I think we need someone experienced in now. Could we ask Wilder/Knill for suggestions?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 07, 2020, 16:27:23 pm
As great a player McCormack has been, he is past his best, hardly managed to keep fit to play in League Two, League One would be too far a jump for him in terms of fitness.

I think itís very harsh to say heís past his best, when he plays I think heís one of the better players and still easily capable of playing at league 1 level. While I appreciate there are issues relating to fitness and injury as I said before I think the impact he probably has on younger players both when on the pitch and in the dressing room canít be underestimated. When I look at the rest of the squad I do wonder where the characters are that can have that impact on other players maybe when things arenít maybe going well.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 07, 2020, 16:48:42 pm
Our best performances all came when McCormack was in the team. He's still a terrific player that could easily do a job at League 1 level... if fit. And therein lies the problem. He isn't fit enough, which isn't his fault, it's just those niggling injuries that come with age. It'll be sod's law that he signs for someone else, stays fit, plays 40+ games for them and we'll be kicking ourselves this time next season but I'll bet he isn't cheap and, with finances as I'm sure they are going to be for now, I guess he was just too much of a risk to take.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 07, 2020, 17:49:13 pm
We definitely need a player of that type. Shaun McWilliams may yet grow into that role but I think we need someone experienced in now. Could we ask Wilder/Knill for suggestions?
And risk another Rob Page?!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on July 07, 2020, 18:06:07 pm
Our best performances all came when McCormack was in the team. He's still a terrific player that could easily do a job at League 1 level... if fit. And therein lies the problem. He isn't fit enough, which isn't his fault, it's just those niggling injuries that come with age. It'll be sod's law that he signs for someone else, stays fit, plays 40+ games for them and we'll be kicking ourselves this time next season but I'll bet he isn't cheap and, with finances as I'm sure they are going to be for now, I guess he was just too much of a risk to take.
Not ALL our best performances. Crawley away?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 07, 2020, 18:39:40 pm
Shay McCartan linked...

http://d3d4football.com/northampton-town-close-in-on-versatile-forward/ (http://d3d4football.com/northampton-town-close-in-on-versatile-forward/)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 07, 2020, 19:08:37 pm
Not ALL our best performances. Crawley away?

Ok, all the best performances I saw.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 07, 2020, 20:05:29 pm
Not ALL our best performances. Crawley away?

Although if I recall correctly, Steve Arnold had a bit to do with that one...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 07, 2020, 20:29:41 pm
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=crawley+v+northampton+youtube&docid=608024123225343100&mid=5A7953D2FED399C121CE5A7953D2FED399C121CE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Our worst performance of the season. 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 07, 2020, 20:30:51 pm
And risk another Rob Page?!

 ;D ;D
I think Wilder and Knill were better at recruiting players than managers :-\


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 07, 2020, 22:19:43 pm
And risk another Rob Page?!
😂😂 touchť. Whilst I am on most of our problems post Wilder weíre down to mental attitude regarding the players we recruited. Loads of us pointed out we needed a general on the pitch and we just didnít get it. As soon as we did look what happened? Say what you like about supporters and the nonsense we come out with, when you get a strong collective opinion itís usually right? Anyway now McCormack has gone we are all getting twitchy because most can see we desperately need a direct replacement? I reckon Curle has it covered, at least he might have........hopefully?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on July 07, 2020, 22:44:56 pm
😂😂 touchť. Whilst I am on most of our problems post Wilder weíre down to mental attitude regarding the players we recruited. Loads of us pointed out we needed a general on the pitch and we just didnít get it. As soon as we did look what happened? Say what you like about supporters and the nonsense we come out with, when you get a strong collective opinion itís usually right? Anyway now McCormack has gone we are all getting twitchy because most can see we desperately need a direct replacement? I reckon Curle has it covered, at least he might have........hopefully?

The recruitment under Page was, bar one or two notable exceptions (Matt Taylor over the summer and then Boateng and Eardley in the January), absolutely terrible. Nyatanga, Hanley, Wylde, McCourt, Beautyman, Sonupe, Gorre and JJ Hooper were no-where near good enough. Revell, Zakuani, Anderson and Cornell were a little bit bit better than those, but still lacklustre signings for League 1.

I think KC's recruitment has been mostly spot on and I trust him to get it right again during the close season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 07, 2020, 23:03:18 pm
Hard disagree on Zakuani. I thought he was plenty good enough for League 1. Hard to argue that there werent a loss of dross recruited though.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 08, 2020, 05:55:31 am
At our level of budget an amount of risk has to be factored in. Getting 2 out of 3 signings average proving to be a success is excellent, which KC and his team have done well.

Page managed 2 out of 12!

As with most teams, we need to sign 3 players with experience to start in the spine of the team.(centre half, playmaking defensive midfielder and a mobile centre forward)

Keeping Wharton and Morton, now we are in League 1, will be essential.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on July 08, 2020, 05:57:27 am
😂😂 touchť. Whilst I am on most of our problems post Wilder weíre down to mental attitude regarding the players we recruited. Loads of us pointed out we needed a general on the pitch and we just didnít get it. As soon as we did look what happened? Say what you like about supporters and the nonsense we come out with, when you get a strong collective opinion itís usually right? Anyway now McCormack has gone we are all getting twitchy because most can see we desperately need a direct replacement? I reckon Curle has it covered, at least he might have........hopefully?

You may want to revise that opinion if you take a look at the Cheltenham thread and read through the pelters KC was getting after the side was announced for the second leg. Same as all the experts on here screaming for us to get rid of Bayo as he was past his sell by date. ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 08, 2020, 09:32:37 am
Hard disagree on Zakuani. I thought he was plenty good enough for League 1. Hard to argue that there werent a loss of dross recruited though.
Zakuani was a great player for us - he just wasnít available enough . He isnít in the same category as the other lightweights from that season (Revell and Cornell excepted ).
One of the issues this coming season is the amount of players on contract that were not good enough last time around in league 2 . They are unlikely to improve next season as we step up and I wonder if conversations are going on about how much game time they will get .


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 08, 2020, 13:06:58 pm
We definitely need a player of that type. Shaun McWilliams may yet grow into that role but I think we need someone experienced in now.

You realise that we aren't going to have the squad depth of last season?

Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack. I think he is vastly underrated by Cobblers fans and he has the potential to outgrow us within the next two seasons. Were it not for his injuries preventing him from playing a full uninterrupted season I think he would have already. On his day he can be unplayable due to his tenacity and timing in the challenge; he is the natural heir to McCormack.

To a lesser extent I think Pollock can be a good player for us. I'd have him as a rotation option providing cover to Watson/Hoskins in midfield. I think he showed great maturity this year and that he has good technique and composure. With his rate of growth he should be given game time too.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 08, 2020, 13:24:19 pm
You realise that we aren't going to have the squad depth of last season?

Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack. I think he is vastly underrated by Cobblers fans and he has the potential to outgrow us within the next two seasons. Were it not for his injuries preventing him from playing a full uninterrupted season I think he would have already. On his day he can be unplayable due to his tenacity and timing in the challenge; he is the natural heir to McCormack.

To a lesser extent I think Pollock can be a good player for us. I'd have him as a rotation option providing cover to Watson/Hoskins in midfield. I think he showed great maturity this year and that he has good technique and composure. With his rate of growth he should be given game time too.
Totally agree.

It was rumoured Derby County wanted to  sign McWilliams before his injury, so they obviously think he has Championship potential.

Like Pollock and Morgan Roberts it will be interesting how they are intergrated into the first team.

The future should be bright.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 08, 2020, 14:31:42 pm
Not seen enough of Roberts to judge. Also got Ballinger and Johnston now, as well as Harding and Chukwumeka, so interesting to see where they sit in the pecking order.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 08, 2020, 15:31:17 pm
You realise that we aren't going to have the squad depth of last season?

Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack. I think he is vastly underrated by Cobblers fans and he has the potential to outgrow us within the next two seasons. Were it not for his injuries preventing him from playing a full uninterrupted season I think he would have already. On his day he can be unplayable due to his tenacity and timing in the challenge; he is the natural heir to McCormack.

To a lesser extent I think Pollock can be a good player for us. I'd have him as a rotation option providing cover to Watson/Hoskins in midfield. I think he showed great maturity this year and that he has good technique and composure. With his rate of growth he should be given game time too.

Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack.


Cannot agree to this assertion; the only thing he has in common with McCormack is that he too is injury prone and lasts about the same time in a game - pitch wise. Based on current situation/form Pollock appears to be the better prospect.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 08, 2020, 15:44:16 pm
Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack.


Cannot agree to this assertion; the only thing he has in common with McCormack is that he too is injury prone and lasts about the same time in a game - pitch wise. Based on current situation/form Pollock appears to be the better prospect.

That's fine, but I feel very confident you will be proven wrong on that.

As for them having nothing in common but injuries... Watch closer and you will see. Tenacity, composure, demanding more from others around him, dogged determination, etc. If you can't see the similarities, then I don't know what to say.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 08, 2020, 16:01:06 pm
I donít think itís as simple to replace McCormack with someone in just terms of ability, itís the other maybe less noticeable aspects of experience and character that effect the rest of the team that also need to be replaced.




Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 08, 2020, 16:10:26 pm
I donít think itís as simple to replace McCormack with someone in just terms of ability, itís the other maybe less noticeable aspects of experience and character that effect the rest of the team that also need to be replaced.

correct - he bossed the last 2 games this season. experience and nous alongside his ability.

comparing mcwilliams to him is madness - i think he will make a good player when he is fit and gets a run of games in one position - but i dont think holding midfielder is his place - his energy is his biggest plus currently, and that was the one thing 53 year old mccormack didnt have - but i know on current form who i would rather in my team


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 08, 2020, 16:14:15 pm
Shaun McWilliams is more than good enough to replace McCormack.


Cannot agree to this assertion; the only thing he has in common with McCormack is that he too is injury prone and lasts about the same time in a game - pitch wise. Based on current situation/form Pollock appears to be the better prospect.
FACT: Shaun has played nearly 80 games (when selected) in the last 3 seasons, so where do you get your quote 'too injury prone' from?

Surely your memory goes back more than the last 4 months!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 08, 2020, 16:16:45 pm
You may want to revise that opinion if you take a look at the Cheltenham thread and read through the pelters KC was getting after the side was announced for the second leg. Same as all the experts on here screaming for us to get rid of Bayo as he was past his sell by date. ;)
True that there were a lot of critics, not sure it was a strong collective opinion though? I for one thought we would go through no problem and said so at the time. For which by the way I have shockingly received absolutely no credit for whatsoever on here? Just shows how high the bar is when trying to impress this lot?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 08, 2020, 16:25:14 pm
Zakuani was a great player for us - he just wasnít available enough . He isnít in the same category as the other lightweights from that season (Revell and Cornell excepted ).
One of the issues this coming season is the amount of players on contract that were not good enough last time around in league 2 . They are unlikely to improve next season as we step up and I wonder if conversations are going on about how much game time they will get .
Might be a tad controversial, but I think clubs that recruit African Internationals are bonkers at this level? Itís bad enough in the prem when one of your star players buggers off to the African Cup of Nations, but in Div1/2 itís insane? Fifa need to sort the timing of that competition out because I reckon itís on a few clubs minds when dealing in the transfer market and may impact on the opportunities for some players from African countries?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on July 08, 2020, 16:53:02 pm
Hard disagree on Zakuani. I thought he was plenty good enough for League 1. Hard to argue that there werent a loss of dross recruited though.

Perhaps my assessment of Zakuani seems a little harsh, I just found him to be particularly mistake prone however and that was when he wasn't injured or on international duty. I still remember his last game, which ended early due to his getting injured by bizarrely tripping himself up while trying to make a simple clearance. The fact that it can be argued he was one of the 'better' Page signings says it all about his recruitment really.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on July 08, 2020, 17:49:51 pm
With regards to McWilliams I do think he has stalled a bit in the last season or do. That said this is probably because he set such a high standard for himself when he first hit the first team.
 He also has a slight curse or benefit depending on how you view things. He is a utility player thatíll do a job wherever you ask him so this doesnít always give him a clear identity. Thought when he filled in at fullback he looked good but really think a centre midfield position he could shine. Itís a big season for him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: RowN on July 08, 2020, 17:57:54 pm
Sorry, but I liked McCormack, for you would know the opposition would be scared about being Ďtaken outí. I think you need someone who has this fear factor, and so far of what I have seen of McWilliams, although good technically, is someone who is a bit light weight... and who likes could be easily run off the ball..


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 08, 2020, 18:28:07 pm
Shame we no longer have the services of Turnbull. A very capable holding midfielder as well as a very good defender.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on July 08, 2020, 18:30:49 pm
That's fine, but I feel very confident you will be proven wrong on that.

As for them having nothing in common but injuries... Watch closer and you will see. Tenacity, composure, demanding more from others around him, dogged determination, etc. If you can't see the similarities, then I don't know what to say.

Not in the same class at the moment.gives the ball away far too easily. Doesn't read the game and gets bypassed in midfield. He badly  needs to pick his game up this season


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 08, 2020, 18:43:41 pm
Not in the same class at the moment.gives the ball away far too easily. Doesn't read the game and gets bypassed in midfield. He badly  needs to pick his game up this season

That will get a response or two ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 08, 2020, 19:49:02 pm
Shaun McWilliams has a lot to prove this season .
No way is he a replacement for McCormack currently and neither is he the same sort of player .
His link play is nowhere near the level of McCormack .
There is a player there though and Norwich were interested in him a few seasons ago .
He just needs to kick on , score more goals and create more chances .


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 08, 2020, 20:20:50 pm
Shaun McWilliams has a lot to prove this season .
No way is he a replacement for McCormack currently and neither is he the same sort of player .
His link play is nowhere near the level of McCormack .
There is a player there though and Norwich were interested in him a few seasons ago .
He just needs to kick on , score more goals and create more chances .

As I said to Everbrite, you see what you see and I see what I see. I think he will prove you wrong this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 08, 2020, 20:45:41 pm
Sorry, but I liked McCormack, for you would know the opposition would be scared about being Ďtaken outí. I think you need someone who has this fear factor, and so far of what I have seen of McWilliams, although good technically, is someone who is a bit light weight... and who likes could be easily run off the ball..

Every successful Cobblers team needs a hard, bald, beardy bastŗrd in it - McCormack, Taylor, Dyche, Rennie... I don't care who Curle signs over the summer, as long as someone bald and beardy is at the top of his shopping list we'll do OK. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 08, 2020, 23:07:06 pm
FACT: Shaun has played nearly 80 games (when selected) in the last 3 seasons, so where do you get your quote 'too injury prone' from?

Surely your memory goes back more than the last 4 months!

He still isn't quite good enough, lacks consistency and again has a history of injuries the last being a lengthy spell out of the first team squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Battery Man on July 09, 2020, 08:38:23 am
Every successful Cobblers team needs a hard, bald, beardy bastŗrd in it - McCormack, Taylor, Dyche, Rennie... I don't care who Curle signs over the summer, as long as someone bald and beardy is at the top of his shopping list we'll do OK. ;D

Yes we don't want some young lean footballer he has to be bald and beardy, I think this should be Curle's main aims in that role.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 09, 2020, 08:43:43 am
Shaun McWilliams has a lot to prove this season .
No way is he a replacement for McCormack currently and neither is he the same sort of player .
His link play is nowhere near the level of McCormack .
There is a player there though and Norwich were interested in him a few seasons ago .
He just needs to kick on , score more goals and create more chances .

I agree,

Sean has the tenacity to break up midfield but his youthful enthusiasm can cause him to get sold in a challenge too early unlike McCormack, but that is definitely something that comes with experience.

I really want to see Sean push on this year, but I don't see him as a natural heir to McCormack, they are different types of player.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 09, 2020, 08:48:40 am
Shame we no longer have the services of Turnbull. A very capable holding midfielder as well as a very good defender.

For me Turnbull was the 2nd best DM, Best LB and 2nd best CB.

If McCormack was not there we always looked better when Turnbull was in front of the defence. It's a shame he was on the contract he was on as he would be perfect for a smaller squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 09, 2020, 09:12:51 am
Itís deja vu for me as far as Shaun is concerned, he has undoubted quality but every close season I say that he needs to get bigger/fitter - if he was at a premier or championship club the first thing they would do is bulk him up. I appreciate that he also hasnít had much luck with injuries but he needs to progress this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 09, 2020, 09:55:55 am
For me Turnbull was the 2nd best DM, Best LB and 2nd best CB.

If McCormack was not there we always looked better when Turnbull was in front of the defence. It's a shame he was on the contract he was on as he would be perfect for a smaller squad.
I almost entirely agree, I had him as 2nd best DM and best LB, CB.
It might be even harder finding a replacement DM than CB though so an even bigger miss with MacCormack also gone.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 09, 2020, 10:01:20 am
For me Turnbull was the 2nd best DM, Best LB and 2nd best CB.

If McCormack was not there we always looked better when Turnbull was in front of the defence. It's a shame he was on the contract he was on as he would be perfect for a smaller squad.

Turnbull was not a midfielder - part of his problem was that he seemed to think he was - very much a case of thinking he was more of a footballer than he was. we used him as a stop gap centre midfielder, and he was our 3rd best centre half of the three - certainly wasnt justifying the money he was on. i am sure we will see him at a big spending club in league 2 or sitting on the bench playing for someone in league 1.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 09, 2020, 10:17:26 am
Starting to hear a few whispers here and there, think itís picking up a bit


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 09, 2020, 10:25:19 am
Starting to hear a few whispers here and there, think itís picking up a bit

Shay McCartan one of the whispers?

Are you "excited" by any of the whispers?

Any of them "close" to completing?

Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on July 09, 2020, 10:41:51 am
Shay McCartan one of the whispers?

Are you "excited" by any of the whispers?

Any of them "close" to completing?

Keep up the good work!


Don't tell him Pike!   ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 09, 2020, 17:49:25 pm
Has anyone found the sixfields pen yet??

The players whoíve been offered contracts donít seem in any hurry to commit do they??

Surely the club should set a deadline so that they can get on with recruitment.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 09, 2020, 18:13:55 pm
Has anyone found the sixfields pen yet??

The players who’ve been offered contracts don’t seem in any hurry to commit do they??

Surely the club should set a deadline so that they can get on with recruitment.

They will not sign until the transfer/registration window opens, probably 1st August. No registrations for transfers or new contracts will be accepted until then.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wattie on July 09, 2020, 20:16:43 pm
Turnbull expected to sign for Crewe shortly. £1.6k a week 3 year deal


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 09, 2020, 20:34:31 pm
Turnbull expected to sign for Crewe shortly. £1.6k a week 3 year deal

Mistake to let him go if that is true, Curle makes it sound like he would demand 3K+ Pw.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 09, 2020, 21:29:52 pm
They will not sign until the transfer/registration window opens, probably 1st August. No registrations for transfers or new contracts will be accepted until then.

So how come transfers are happening now?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 09, 2020, 21:38:43 pm
I dont think anyone actually knows the wages lower league players are being offered unless theyre exceptional


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 09, 2020, 23:34:41 pm
Turnbull expected to sign for Crewe shortly. £1.6k a week 3 year deal

Nothing on Crewe web sites- zilch. They were looking at David Turnbull of Motherwell I think? Crewe have like us awaiting on 3 top players to resign. One of them Jones has left the Club and has signed for Lincoln. They are apprehensive about Porter who some think will sign for another L1 Club. Gillingham seem keen to splash the cash as well. What is your source for our Turnbull anticipated signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 09, 2020, 23:40:28 pm
They will not sign until the transfer/registration window opens, probably 1st August. No registrations for transfers or new contracts will be accepted until then.

Not sure about that as Jones of Crewe has according to their web site signed for Lincoln?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wattie on July 10, 2020, 03:30:43 am
Nothing on Crewe web sites- zilch. They were looking at David Turnbull of Motherwell I think? Crewe have like us awaiting on 3 top players to resign. One of them Jones has left the Club and has signed for Lincoln. They are apprehensive about Porter who some think will sign for another L1 Club. Gillingham seem keen to splash the cash as well. What is your source for our Turnbull anticipated signing.

Same source that told me Powell was going to join, offer is on the table. As I say rumoured, whether he will sign, time will tell but I wouldn't post if there wasn't smoke.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 10, 2020, 06:34:40 am
So how come transfers are happening now?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers)

I assume that they are agreed/proposed transfers that have not been registered. The transfer window will not open until after the end of the current season and is not expected before 26 July. The EFL committee meet on the 24th of July to agree dates, it is anticipated that registration of players will be from 1 August for a period of 12 weeks.
It sounds like KC is already doing a lot behind the scenes in anticipation of the window/registration opening which, unless he has a cast iron agreement, will probably prefer not to publicise.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 10, 2020, 09:49:28 am
Turnbull expected to sign for Crewe shortly. £1.6k a week 3 year deal

big old pay cut


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 10, 2020, 10:06:27 am
KT has stated that clubs are unable to make signings until 1st August, therefor those that have already been stated as signings will be players signing pre-registration agreements which will be made permanent next month.
This is obviously a result of covid and the late finish to the season as players have previously been able to sign before August. Effectively any player out of contract on 30th June will not have a new contract until 1st August and would appear to have lost a months earnings.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 10, 2020, 10:19:09 am
KT has stated that clubs are unable to make signings until 1st August, therefor those that have already been stated as signings will be players signing pre-registration agreements which will be made permanent next month.
This is obviously a result of covid and the late finish to the season as players have previously been able to sign before August. Effectively any player out of contract on 30th June will not have a new contract until 1st August and would appear to have lost a months earnings.

Thanks for confirming.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 10, 2020, 15:42:33 pm
Harriman sign new 2 year deal.

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/harriman_new_contract/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/harriman_new_contract/)

Thoroughly deserved!

One down...2 to go (or hopefully stay!) ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 12, 2020, 12:53:59 pm
Frank Herman Nouble (still only 28)

Us & Mansfield apparently interested...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 12, 2020, 13:40:10 pm
Frank Herman Nouble (still only 28)

Us & Mansfield apparently interested...

Heís a bit of a journeyman and doesnít score many - if Oliver resigns then I donít think we need 3 target men.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 12, 2020, 17:03:56 pm
Heís a bit of a journeyman and doesnít score many - if Oliver resigns then I donít think we need 3 target men.

Journeyman yes, but it's a bit of a lazy assumption that because he is tall and well built he must be a 'target man' type player.

If you watched the playoffs you would have seen that Nouble is a pacy player, faster than Oliver and every bit as fast as Morton. He is a skillful player with quick feet and an element of unpredictability. That he is strong and can bring others into play on the floor is an advantage to his game - but he isn't strong in the air like Oliver or Smith. I've already said a couple of time that I think he'd be a great addition to our side, and I think he could play alongside Oliver not instead of.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 12, 2020, 17:09:55 pm
Heís a bit of a journeyman and doesnít score many - if Oliver resigns then I donít think we need 3 target men.

Watch this too if you don't agree with what I said - not many players at L2 level can do this with a ball!


https://twitter.com/i/status/1131160971668598784


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 12, 2020, 17:56:03 pm
Played left wing mostly for Colchester. Always impressed me when he played against us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 12, 2020, 18:59:48 pm
Fair play, I wonder if he can play left wing back?! I see that Newport released Jamille Matt the other week - I think weíve been linked with him before?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 12, 2020, 19:41:05 pm
Nouble is decent but he's more of a winger or striker and  I don't really see how he would fit into our system.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 12, 2020, 19:59:57 pm
No, Adebayo Akinfenwa is not signing for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 12, 2020, 20:37:49 pm
No, Adebayo Akinfenwa is not signing for us.

Are you sure? ;)!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on July 12, 2020, 21:12:21 pm
Watch this too if you don't agree with what I said - not many players at L2 level can do this with a ball!


https://twitter.com/i/status/1131160971668598784

Jeez, all that farting about and never scored a goal.

Definitely don't need him.     ::) ::)



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 13, 2020, 11:47:54 am
Oli Hawkins latest rumour...

Would be an decent option if Oliver doesn't re sign


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 13, 2020, 12:05:32 pm
Oli Hawkins latest rumour...

Would be an decent option if Oliver doesn't re sign

Is that the guy who can play centre back or centre forward? Iím pretty sure it was him that they said when he stepped up to take a penalty in the playoff semi that he hadnít scored all season. I know itís silly season but one of the transfer news sites has it that Fleetwood are sniffing around Callum Morton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 13, 2020, 12:22:38 pm
Yes Ollie Hawkins has played at the back when Portsmouth had injury problems. He only made 7 appearances last season and did not score and his record at Portsmouth is a goal every 5 games. If Oliver signs his new cotract we will not need Hawkins.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 13, 2020, 12:51:28 pm
Luke hyam

Released by southend

That looks a more realistic rumour


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 13, 2020, 12:53:10 pm
Oli Hawkins latest rumour...

Would be an decent option if Oliver doesn't re sign

I am not sure it would even depend on that.

If you want to have forwards run them selves into the ground every game you really need 4 strong options, If you look at Wilder he commonly subs both strikers in every game. They don't get huge individual numbers and its often the 2nd pair that grab the goals after the defence have been run ragged for an hour.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 13, 2020, 13:42:04 pm
Luke Hyam only made 6 appearances for Southend last season, I wonder why. If he was unable to get in their relegation team it does not look promising.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 13, 2020, 13:49:32 pm
Oli Hawkins latest rumour...

Would be an decent option if Oliver doesn't re sign

Was told yesterday evening both Oliver and Hoskins will be here next year


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 13, 2020, 14:03:15 pm
Was told yesterday evening both Oliver and Hoskins will be here next year

That sounds positive news providing they both carry on their form of the second half of the season and particularly the playoffs. Any whispers on possible incomings?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 13, 2020, 15:17:55 pm
That sounds positive news providing they both carry on their form of the second half of the season and particularly the playoffs. Any whispers on possible incomings?

Nothing else concrete at the moment. Weíre linked with a player every day on Twitter and Facebook but I wouldnít pay much attention to those rumours


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: exiledinspace on July 13, 2020, 16:31:10 pm
My pal here on the island is from Torquay and his family know the Mortons. Seems he wants to be here for another year if all things allow.

Mind you, my mates always smashed on mushrooms so read into that what you will.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 13, 2020, 18:30:30 pm
Ah, knew this would surface again...I do wish we had signed him on a 10 year contract when he first signed for us though...absolutely love him!

Northampton Town are set to sign striker Adebayo Akinfenwa after his Wycombe Wanderers contract expires #ntfc #wwfc https://twitter.com/TransferCentre9/status/1282706098261303296/photo/1


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 14, 2020, 09:00:29 am
Every year! He'll sign for a League 2 club probably, someone like Cambridge.
I hope Curle has better plans, but know im probably in the minority


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 14, 2020, 09:02:26 am
Ah, knew this would surface again...I do wish we had signed him on a 10 year contract when he first signed for us though...absolutely love him!

Northampton Town are set to sign striker Adebayo Akinfenwa after his Wycombe Wanderers contract expires #ntfc #wwfc https://twitter.com/TransferCentre9/status/1282706098261303296/photo/1

having watched the league one play off final yesterday, when he came off the bench - he contributed absolutely nothing to the game at all.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 14, 2020, 09:20:31 am
having watched the league one play off final yesterday, when he came off the bench - he contributed absolutely nothing to the game at all.


.......but over the season scored 10 league goals and got 5 assists.......at 38.

Ironic you post has contributed nothing now ay.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 14, 2020, 09:38:46 am
Much as I love the bloke thereís no way we should be looking to bring him back for a third spell unless he was on a vastly reduced wage. Heís 38 and was never very mobile in his pomp - even less now. As a poster above stated, if he continues to play he will no doubt find another club in league 2 that will take him on and he will continue to cause chaos. You have got to feel for him - how many times is that now that he has been in teams that go up only for his contract to not be renewed (Iím assuming he will be released by Wycombe)?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 14, 2020, 10:04:09 am
Reckon Wycombe will now offer him a token one year deal now anyway. Still a good option off the bench at any level & he deserves a season in the championship....

For us, more important that big Vadaine re-signs...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 14, 2020, 10:11:12 am
Reckon Wycombe will now offer him a token one year deal now anyway. Still a good option off the bench at any level & he deserves a season in the championship....

For us, more important that big Vadaine re-signs...

I think ntfclad said that oliverís either signing or signed for another 2 years the same as Hoskins - I assume it might be announced in due course?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 14, 2020, 10:33:32 am

.......but over the season scored 10 league goals and got 5 assists.......at 38.

Ironic you post has contributed nothing now ay.

good sentence.

he still contributed nothing last night


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Battery Man on July 14, 2020, 10:40:44 am
good sentence.

he still contributed nothing last night

Not in the match, but gave one of the best most match interviews I have seen in a while.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 10:46:36 am
In the 35 minutes he was on the pitch he contributed absolute zero and it was painfull to watch. If we are not offering a cotract to a 36 year old tough tackling midfielder why the hell would we offer one to a 38 year old immobile, lumbering striker who cannot jump. Time he hung up his boots but somebody like Crawley, or similar, will probably be daft enough to offer him a contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 14, 2020, 15:03:48 pm
Charles Vernam has been released by Grimsby
He sounded as if he played well towards the end of the season and would offer something different.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 15:16:22 pm
Rumours that Charles Vernam is going to Burton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 14, 2020, 16:44:23 pm
Wycombe Chairman says he is going to offer Bayo a new contract!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 15, 2020, 08:06:01 am
Prem at 40?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on July 15, 2020, 08:54:18 am
Anyone heard if Jordan Turnbull speaking to another club? My mate said Coventry might be interested? ???


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 15, 2020, 10:08:09 am
Anyone heard if Jordan Turnbull speaking to another club? My mate said Coventry might be interested? ???

Wattie claims that Turnbull might be signing for Crewe; maybe plausible!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on July 15, 2020, 10:40:54 am
Might be better option
Division 1 regular compared to Championship reserve. Suppose it depends on whether he sees himself as a Championship player...He looked sound  but not match winning performances however when playing with Goode and Wharton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 15, 2020, 11:56:34 am
The EFL has today confirmed the opening and closing dates for the 2020 summer transfer window.

Subject to formal ratification, the transfer window will open fully on Monday 27th July, although any player registered before the completion of the 2019/20 season will not be eligible to play for their new club until season 2020/21 commences. This is applicable to clubs involved in the Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs.

The window for international registrations closes at 11pm on Monday 5th October, with an agreement in place with the Premier League for an extended two-week domestic only window which will close at 5pm on Friday 16th October.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 16, 2020, 19:45:19 pm
Jordan Turnball apparently in talks with Bolton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on July 16, 2020, 21:35:29 pm
Shame, their gain our loss


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on July 16, 2020, 21:51:31 pm
Yes but despite despite not paying creditors and being under a transfer embargo they are paying fortunes in wages.  Outbid Swindon on wages for Eoin Doyle


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 16, 2020, 22:18:07 pm
Any player in big demand signing for a club in a critical financial position needs a check up? Say what you like about footballers, you canít deny that a fair few have the brains of a rocking horse?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Tom on July 16, 2020, 23:02:23 pm
A couple of friends have said that we're in for James Garner on a season long loan from Man United. We're up against some other L1 clubs though.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: memyhead on July 16, 2020, 23:49:36 pm
Longer it goes on without big Vadaine signing, the more I fear he's possibly had his head turned (agent?) and is exploring other options (which he's entitled to do) before accepting our offer...

He is pivotal to the way we play (as he pretty much wins every header) so I think it would be a massive loss should he sign elsewhere. Think he'll be an even better player next season so hopefully he'll re-sign.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 17, 2020, 08:45:32 am
A couple of friends have said that we're in for James Garner on a season long loan from Man United. We're up against some other L1 clubs though.
I hear he is a bit of a Maverick!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on July 17, 2020, 08:56:26 am
I hear he is a bit of a Maverick!

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2020, 08:56:57 am
Longer it goes on without big Vadaine signing, the more I fear he's possibly had his head turned (agent?) and is exploring other options (which he's entitled to do) before accepting our offer...

He is pivotal to the way we play (as he pretty much wins every header) so I think it would be a massive loss should he sign elsewhere. Think he'll be an even better player next season so hopefully he'll re-sign.


Just to add a bit of realism
Heís hardly irreplaceable though....
All we need is a tall striker who wins a lot of headers and doesnít score many goals and has a knack of missing easy chances....
Iím sure there are plenty available for nothing most with a better scoring record than vadaine

Kyle Lafferty for example.

If vadaine resigns then thatís fine
If he doesnít itís not as if we are trying to replace the skills of messi or the goal scoring power of messi.
We are looking to replace a journeyman striker.

Thatís my take on it


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 17, 2020, 09:42:30 am
Just to add a bit of realism
Heís hardly irreplaceable though....
All we need is a tall striker who wins a lot of headers and doesnít score many goals and has a knack of missing easy chances....
Iím sure there are plenty available for nothing most with a better scoring record than vadaine

Kyle Lafferty for example.

If vadaine resigns then thatís fine
If he doesnít itís not as if we are trying to replace the skills of messi or the goal scoring power of messi.
We are looking to replace a journeyman striker.

Thatís my take on it

i agree with all that - its who he is replaced with that is key - he has one good (for him) season in his career - last year, under KC - if someone is willing to pay him more than us then up to them.

same as turnbull - not a matchwinner - up to bolton if they want to continue their financial decline by paying over the odds for an okay league 2 centre half


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 17, 2020, 20:27:01 pm
Wycombe Chairman says he is going to offer Bayo a new contract!
Signed a new 1 year deal


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2020, 20:49:01 pm
I hear he is a bit of a Maverick!

Good one Cordy !  For those with long memories. 8)



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on July 18, 2020, 02:17:41 am
Longer it goes on without big Vadaine signing, the more I fear he's possibly had his head turned (agent?) and is exploring other options (which he's entitled to do) before accepting our offer...

He is pivotal to the way we play (as he pretty much wins every header) so I think it would be a massive loss should he sign elsewhere. Think he'll be an even better player next season so hopefully he'll re-sign.


Heís div2 at best
He has done well for us but he is not a player that will pull up trees in div1
No sleep list if he goes , unlike Wharton , Goode and Morton


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 18, 2020, 11:52:52 am
Oliver was outstanding in the playoffs and against Burton. He went missing in a lot of other games. The fact he went from club to club and ended at Morecambe might be an indicator? On the other hand, when he wants to, really good in the air. Not sure about him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on July 18, 2020, 15:26:37 pm
Oliver is a "back to goal" front player. One of the best I have seen at the Cobblers.

He suits the Cobblers current style and if he wins the ball in the air in League 2 then he'll probably win in it League 1 as well.

Perhaps other clubs look at his goal-scoring record and decide he is not worth the risk. Personally I think he is an important cog in the Cobblers machine and I would be sad to see him go - as I'm struggling to think of any ready made replacements that are (cheaply) likely to fall in to our lap. He is also the dream type of player to combine with Morton if we are lucky enough to have him next season.

Smith is a different type of player who likes to get on the end of crosses. When the ball is belted forward to him it is just as likely to come straight back. It is not his style of play.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 18, 2020, 15:53:52 pm
Oliver was outstanding in the playoffs and against Burton. He went missing in a lot of other games. The fact he went from club to club and ended at Morecambe might be an indicator? On the other hand, when he wants to, really good in the air. Not sure about him.

I thought his work rate was always good. Strikers are often wanderers. Oliver has been at 8 clubs, the same as Ibrahimovic. Bayo and Andy Cole, for example were both at 13 clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 18, 2020, 15:55:28 pm
I thought his work rate was always good. Strikers are often wanderers. Oliver has been at 8 clubs, the same as Ibrahimovic. Bayo and Andy Cole, for example were both at 13 clubs.
Heíll be at 9 soon  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 18, 2020, 16:07:20 pm
Heíll be at 9 soon  ;)

It's impossible to predict without knowing the offer from the club but I would be surprised if he left. He only played briefly in League One at the start of his career so I guess would relish the challenge. He suits our style of play and is popular with the fans desire not having a great scoring ratio. It would be a big **** to move on.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 18, 2020, 16:18:24 pm
If itís true that heís only been offered a one year deal then of course he will be off.
Heís uphill for 29 and this is potentially his last decent contract....
Heís bound to find a two year deal somewhere and good luck to him.
You canít blame him for holding out for a decent last pay day.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 18, 2020, 22:25:00 pm
Any new players in yet? Only weeks till new season kicks off.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 19, 2020, 05:48:11 am
Any new players in yet? Only weeks till new season kicks off.
Wait until August 1st?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on July 19, 2020, 09:36:36 am
Wait until August 1st?

The window is open on 27th July surely.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 19, 2020, 13:58:21 pm
Were definitely trying to move some of the fringe under contract on, but whethet anything comes from it is another matter.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 19, 2020, 19:06:28 pm
Anyone else heard Jack Marriott of Derby rumours. Ex P@sh but a local boy. Apparently wants more regular football.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblersmad on July 19, 2020, 20:54:42 pm
Anyone else heard Jack Marriott of Derby rumours. Ex P@sh but a local boy. Apparently wants more regular football.

Dream on


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 19, 2020, 21:13:21 pm
Dream on
Pretty sure theyíd want 7 figures, not 5


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 19, 2020, 21:17:51 pm
Pretty sure theyíd want 7 figures, not 5

Classic!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 19, 2020, 21:18:31 pm
Pretty sure theyíd want 7 figures, not 5

Unproven above League 1. Perhaps they need to dream on!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 19, 2020, 22:45:15 pm
Unproven above League 1. Perhaps they need to dream on!

 ;D  made me chuckle and a fair point too! Who in L1 is going to pay even a 6 figure transfer fee let alone of course the Championship.




Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 20, 2020, 05:50:18 am
Unproven above League 1. Perhaps they need to dream on!
The way finances are looking generally, big fees and wages outside of the Championship are going to be few and far between. There are going to be plenty of squad players released that will be coming out of the Championship that will struggle to cover half their current salary, let alone command a fee? Anyone who doesnít think the current market expectations are going to change dramatically are the ones dreaming? Depleted income = smaller squads = fewer contracts. Fewer contracts on offer to the same number of full time professionals means the bottom drops out of the market along with salary expectations, thatís the theory anyway? This may mean a game of musical chairs where professionals who hold out for big money are left out of work come the start of the season? I reckon this will be a close season like no other and the smart thing to do may be leave a couple of slots open till the last minute because there will probably be some real quality desperate for a contract? Just depends how big a tw@t their agent is and how much sh1t they have between their ears?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ClarenceInDefence on July 20, 2020, 16:24:25 pm
Unproven above League 1. Perhaps they need to dream on!

If Marriott left Derby he'd be snapped up by another Championship club.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 20, 2020, 17:08:48 pm
If Marriott left Derby he'd be snapped up by another Championship club.

Wycombe.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 20, 2020, 18:01:19 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 20, 2020, 18:13:39 pm
If Marriott left Derby he'd be snapped up by another Championship club.

I don't


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 21, 2020, 02:07:32 am
Talk of signing Marriott is very unrealistic..

Footballers of his stature in the Championship earn close to or more than a million annually - particularly at free spending clubs such as Derby. The vast majority of L1 clubs likely couldn't even pay him 1/5 of what he is probably currently earning, in these challenging times. As he is still under contract, why on earth would he take a giant pay cut to come back to a division that he has already proved he is too good for?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 21, 2020, 09:48:06 am
Year after year I read the same sort of unrealistic speculation, like we are playing championship manager. Cant we just sit tight and see what comes through the door. Ive been largely impressed with Curles recruitment. Fact he had been tracking Morton for a while, has given Oliver a new lease of life, brought back a player who should never have left in Adams, brought in experienced head in Alan McCormack, is more than the previous 3 managers put together.

Im looking forward to it all


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 21, 2020, 11:10:27 am
Anyone else heard Jack Marriott of Derby rumours. Ex P@sh but a local boy. Apparently wants more regular football.
Jack Marriott 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 21, 2020, 13:14:50 pm
Year after year I read the same sort of unrealistic speculation, like we are playing championship manager. Cant we just sit tight and see what comes through the door. Ive been largely impressed with Curls recruitment. Fact he had been tracking Morton for a while, has given Oliver a new lease of life, brought back a player who should never have left in Adams, brought in experienced head in Alan McCormack, is more than the previous 3 managers put together.

Im looking forward to it all

Spot on. People start floating round established championship players or players who are clearly about to make a step up then get upset when we dont get them.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on July 21, 2020, 14:40:14 pm
Good post from Gen Disorda. Spot on lets trust the Manager to get it right, he has done so far... :)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 21, 2020, 15:05:23 pm
Good post from Gen Disorda. Spot on lets trust the Manager to get it right, he has done so far... :)
Letís hope for more Mortonís & Goodeís and less Lines & Martinís


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 21, 2020, 15:48:53 pm
The window is open on 27th July surely.

No idea whats going on now........ Charles Vernam (contract expired at Grimsby) was mentioned earlier in this thread about being a possible target for us....signed for Burton yesterday.

Jerry Yates, left Rotherham and signed for Blackpool today for a six figure fee. George Taft moved from Cambridge to Bolton yesterday, Jack Baldwin went from Sunderland to Bristol Rovers and Jamille Matt joined Forest Green yesterday too......

Plenty of moves happening considering the Window is not "open"......





Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 21, 2020, 15:57:00 pm
Letís hope for more Mortonís & Goodeís and less Lines & Martinís

Both brought in to add experience to the squad and no reason why they shouldnt have worked out. Even Wilder had Tom Newey.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 21, 2020, 17:11:24 pm
Jack Marriott 😂

My reaction when I heard the rumour too but thought I'd ask all the ITK's on here to comment. Personally I think Callum Morton is a better fit for us anyway.
I don't think anybody predicted any of Keith Curle's best signings so let's hope he keeps on surprising us, he's proved he knows how to build a team.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 21, 2020, 17:20:32 pm
We dont leak transfer rumours alot under Curles regime, we didnt hear much last year until the official site tweet came out that a signings upcoming that day, so be surprised if we hear much from anyone before the signings happen.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 21, 2020, 18:53:06 pm
We dont leak transfer rumours alot under Curles regime, we didnt hear much last year until the official site tweet came out that a signings upcoming that day, so be surprised if we hear much from anyone before the signings happen.

ntfclad knows his stuff. When there's some interesting news on the horizon I'm sure he'll let us know. At the moment there's obviously nothing imminent.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 21, 2020, 21:19:01 pm
On Oliver, hearing the club are relatively relaxed about his prospects of resigning and they still expect him to be here next year

As for Marriot, lol


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 21, 2020, 21:36:06 pm
On Oliver, hearing the club are relatively relaxed about his prospects of resigning and they still expect him to be here next year

As for Marriot, lol

Anything exciting in the works?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 21, 2020, 22:14:40 pm
On Oliver, hearing the club are relatively relaxed about his prospects of resigning and they still expect him to be here next year

As for Marriot, lol

As I said. He knows his stuff.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 21, 2020, 23:02:45 pm
Interesting round up of league one club current squads and aspirations.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/league-one-round-up-summer-2020-1-6751466


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 21, 2020, 23:48:35 pm
Whilst we are on the subject of reading material there are some truly staggering figures in here. Standout one for me is that the Championship has a current combined debt of 1.1 billion. Thatís more than the national debt of about 14 countries? All against a back drop of Covid, grit your teeth and clench your bowels, this is going to get rough.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/annual-review-of-football-finance.html


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 22, 2020, 00:40:57 am
Whilst we are on the subject of reading material there are some truly staggering figures in here. Standout one for me is that the Championship has a current combined debt of 1.1 billion. Thatís more than the national debt of about 14 countries? All against a back drop of Covid, grit your teeth and clench your bowels, this is going to get rough.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/annual-review-of-football-finance.html

Average £50 million per club. Key = being able to service the debt (pay the interest). Same solution = slash players salaries until income streams return to normal. Don't pay daft transfer fees for new players.

Comparison - Manchester United have over £ 0.5 Billion debt on their Balance Sheet.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Peles Big Toe on July 22, 2020, 07:42:21 am
Average £50 million per club. Key = being able to service the debt (pay the interest). Same solution = slash players salaries until income streams return to normal. Don't pay daft transfer fees for new players.

Comparison - Manchester United have over £ 0.5 Billion debt on their Balance Sheet.

Sounds like common sense - but I guarantee there will still be chairmen willing to g@mble on capitalising on not cutting back to gain an advantage as a promotion candidate.

I think that's the main problem in football currently. People with no attachment to the community can purchase clubs without any of their own capital, saddle them with huge debt to try reach that PL pay-out, then completely bail with no accountability if it doesn't pan out.

If anything good could come from Covid in a footballing sense, it will be The FA finally clamping down on owner liability and spending thresholds. Sad it will probably take another half a dozen traditional clubs to disappear before that is the case.

Notice Bolton are still offering ridiculous wages.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 10:29:07 am
I see Byron Webster has been released by carlisle
Heís a veteran now at 33 but heís had experience at a higher level is a 6í3 lump and strikes me as a short term one year contract option to replace Turnbull.
We could do a lot worse imo



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 10:31:07 am
Sounds like common sense - but I guarantee there will still be chairmen willing to g@mble on capitalising on not cutting back to gain an advantage as a promotion candidate.

I think that's the main problem in football currently. People with no attachment to the community can purchase clubs without any of their own capital, saddle them with huge debt to try reach that PL pay-out, then completely bail with no accountability if it doesn't pan out.

If anything good could come from Covid in a footballing sense, it will be The FA finally clamping down on owner liability and spending thresholds. Sad it will probably take another half a dozen traditional clubs to disappear before that is the case.

Notice Bolton are still offering ridiculous wages.
Itís not complicated is it? Iím as thick as pig 5h1t and I get it. The intellect of an amoeba and they end up running a football club? Mind you, they shine like beacons of wisdom compared to the cunnts running the show?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 22, 2020, 11:23:32 am
No idea whats going on now........ Charles Vernam (contract expired at Grimsby) was mentioned earlier in this thread about being a possible target for us....signed for Burton yesterday.

Jerry Yates, left Rotherham and signed for Blackpool today for a six figure fee. George Taft moved from Cambridge to Bolton yesterday, Jack Baldwin went from Sunderland to Bristol Rovers and Jamille Matt joined Forest Green yesterday too......

Plenty of moves happening considering the Window is not "open"......

KT spoke about this, any players that are being 'signed' cant be registered and finalised until the window opens and gets ratified with the EFL / FA. I guess in theory until its registered they can change their minds but would be in breach of contract? He hinted that we wouldnt announce until the window was open and everything was finalised, even if we have agreements with players.

I imagine a lot of clubs will be the same and there will be a lot of announcements on the day it opens.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 22, 2020, 11:53:57 am
KT spoke about this, any players that are being 'signed' cant be registered and finalised until the window opens and gets ratified with the EFL / FA. I guess in theory until its registered they can change their minds but would be in breach of contract? He hinted that we wouldnt announce until the window was open and everything was finalised, even if we have agreements with players.

I imagine a lot of clubs will be the same and there will be a lot of announcements on the day it opens.

Sensible to be honest, I have only just got over Giles Coke's treachery  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 22, 2020, 12:15:48 pm
if that EFL Hub account on Twitter told me my name, I would check my passport

However, they have just mentioned that Sheffield Wednesday are interested in Goode

I would have thought theres a much longer list than that interested but let's see!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 12:46:50 pm
I wouldnít worry too much we all know the score anyway...
Sold to higher level club
Undisclosed fee...
Not until the end of the window though as still on a season ticket drive...

Nearer the start of next season we will sign a load of loans and free transfers with no long term ambition whilst trotting out excuses about coronavirus etc..

All very plausible if it werenít for the fact that Swindon for example were prepared to pay £200k plus for a striker but lost out to blackpool.

Itís also worth remembering that Swindon didnít have a record breaking cup run that pulled in roughly £750k (250k of which was definitely a bonus that was conveniently forgotten about especially now we need to strengthen for a higher level)

Last time we were in this league KT proclaimed this club needed extra investment to be competitive in this league...
The chinese shambles ensued.

This year itís obvious from his own mouth that KT isnít the man to help make us a league one club as he hasnít the money.
This year itíll be even more stark as owners can invest in clubs in order to buy players but can no longer claim the money as loans to the club that need to be paid back

The stadium needs addressing by the end of the month and better players need signing to help us stay in this division.

It wonít be long before we find out if our owners can compete with the likes of Swindon and actually go after decent signings or string us along on the way to a quick relegation.

I know what I think but I very much hope Iím wrong...

Letís hope KT makes a better job of getting investors on board this time so we have a fighting chance or maybe just maybe he will fund things himself....



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 22, 2020, 13:00:45 pm
I wouldnít worry too much we all know the score anyway...
Sold to higher level club
Undisclosed fee...
Not until the end of the window though as still on a season ticket drive...

Nearer the start of next season we will sign a load of loans and free transfers with no long term ambition whilst trotting out excuses about coronavirus etc..

All very plausible if it werenít for the fact that Swindon for example were prepared to pay £200k plus for a striker but lost out to blackpool.

Itís also worth remembering that Swindon didnít have a record breaking cup run that pulled in roughly £750k (250k of which was definitely a bonus that was conveniently forgotten about especially now we need to strengthen for a higher level)

Last time we were in this league KT proclaimed this club needed extra investment to be competitive in this league...
The chinese shambles ensued.

This year itís obvious from his own mouth that KT isnít the man to help make us a league one club as he hasnít the money.
This year itíll be even more stark as owners can invest in clubs in order to buy players but can no longer claim the money as loans to the club that need to be paid back

The stadium needs addressing by the end of the month and better players need signing to help us stay in this division.

It wonít be long before we find out if our owners can compete with the likes of Swindon and actually go after decent signings or string us along on the way to a quick relegation.

I know what I think but I very much hope Iím wrong...

Letís hope KT makes a better job of getting investors on board this time so we have a fighting chance or maybe just maybe he will fund things himself....



Who do you suggest takes over the club with the investment needed?

It is a VERY short list!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 22, 2020, 13:08:01 pm
I wouldnít worry too much we all know the score anyway...
Sold to higher level club
Undisclosed fee...
Not until the end of the window though as still on a season ticket drive...

Nearer the start of next season we will sign a load of loans and free transfers with no long term ambition whilst trotting out excuses about coronavirus etc..

All very plausible if it werenít for the fact that Swindon for example were prepared to pay £200k plus for a striker but lost out to blackpool.

Itís also worth remembering that Swindon didnít have a record breaking cup run that pulled in roughly £750k (250k of which was definitely a bonus that was conveniently forgotten about especially now we need to strengthen for a higher level)

Last time we were in this league KT proclaimed this club needed extra investment to be competitive in this league...
The chinese shambles ensued.

This year itís obvious from his own mouth that KT isnít the man to help make us a league one club as he hasnít the money.
This year itíll be even more stark as owners can invest in clubs in order to buy players but can no longer claim the money as loans to the club that need to be paid back

The stadium needs addressing by the end of the month and better players need signing to help us stay in this division.

It wonít be long before we find out if our owners can compete with the likes of Swindon and actually go after decent signings or string us along on the way to a quick relegation.

I know what I think but I very much hope Iím wrong...

Letís hope KT makes a better job of getting investors on board this time so we have a fighting chance or maybe just maybe he will fund things himself....



Which would you say you dislike least?

a. Kelvin Thomas
b. The Cobblers
c. Football

If the answer is c. perhaps you should move to Swindon ;) ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 13:19:40 pm
Iím only posting facts.

Under KT we cannot sustain league one football without extra investment.

Not my words but KTs

He said that extra investment was needed to take us to the next level and make us a competitive league one club....

Nothingís changed finance wise since the last time we were in this division(especially the redevelopment)

These are facts.

Given this what are peopleís expectations for the season ahead.

Iím afraid I see a season of struggle with an uncompetitive squad , low on the required quality leading to an instant return to league two.

We get into league one canít afford to compete in this league, donít spend and go back down

Nothing will be different to the last time around imo
Player sales for undisclosed fees , minimum investment in the squad with no long term plan on league one stability and a quick return to league two.

Sorry for the negativity but I see us as the Norwich of league one (happy to make up the numbers but not prepared to invest to stay in the division and build for the future)

Itís always been the same and Iíd love the chairman to come out and state what he plans to do differently this time around.

Maybe we will see a couple of Ďstatement of intent permanent signingsí but itís more likely we will sell anyone of value and meekly accept a season of struggle...

What do others actually think will happen??
Will we start the season with a stronger squad than the one that came up or will we be cannon fodder??


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 22, 2020, 13:29:16 pm
Wycombe Wanderers, Accrington Stanley, Burton Albion? They managed it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 13:40:49 pm
Wycombe Wanderers, Accrington Stanley, Burton Albion? They managed it.
I couldnít agree more but how do they do it?
Do they break up a team each time they get promoted?
Theyíre doing something we canít do as I canít remember us spending more than two seasons in league one before coming back down.
In the case of burton they spent money to progress again to the championship and Iím not sure if Wycombe broke up their team when they got promoted to league one
Either way we as a club seem incapable of sustaining league one football
That is something Iím sure we all can agree on given our recent history

Maybe this time itíll be different but Iíve no idea why?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 22, 2020, 14:20:17 pm

What do others actually think will happen??
Will we start the season with a stronger squad than the one that came up or will we be cannon fodder??
Slightly stronger squad but think we'll do well to keep Goode. Hopefully get enough for him (will be undisclosed) to find a good enough replacement.
I think it'll be a boring mid table season. Start brightly and then hover around the middle. Win as many as we lose but a lot of draws.

The undisclosed annoyance (not just from you) is one that I dont understand. Pretty much every sale outside of the premier league seems to be undisclosed now. Apparently its the buying clubs decision, so if Goode is sold for undisclosed it wont be KT or KC decision.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Peles Big Toe on July 22, 2020, 14:34:19 pm
Itís not complicated is it? Iím as thick as pig 5h1t and I get it. The intellect of an amoeba and they end up running a football club? Mind you, they shine like beacons of wisdom compared to the cunnts running the show?

The problem is conflict of interest. It's common sense if your primary motivation is securing a sustainable future for the club. However, a lot of directors will be far more interested in either extracting a salary from the club or gaining a return in investment. For the latter, it makes sense to risk spending vast amounts (via loans against the club) to secure promotion then look to subsequently resell the club at a higher value than you bought. If it doesn't pan out and the club goes bust, you just exit without any liability. 

That's the main issue, and why the FA need to step up and offer clubs more protection from the mercenaries.

However - fans are also need to realign their expectations. If we're constantly hounding owners to offer better wages to attract players we can't sustain off the club's own revenue, it's not rocket science to see where that leads....

Letís hope KT makes a better job of getting investors on board this time so we have a fighting chance or maybe just maybe he will fund things himself....

OK - so what benefactors do you know are happy to subside us for a couple million a year to do this? What's their incentive? What happens if we don't give them a return on investment and we're saddled with the subsequent debt?

I dunno maybe we can ask a Chinese sports company or something.....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 15:00:50 pm
The problem is conflict of interest. It's common sense if your primary motivation is securing a sustainable future for the club. However, a lot of directors will be far more interested in either extracting a salary from the club or gaining a return in investment. For the latter, it makes sense to risk spending vast amounts (via loans against the club) to secure promotion then look to subsequently resell the club at a higher value than you bought. If it doesn't pan out and the club goes bust, you just exit without any liability. 

That's the main issue, and why the FA need to step up and offer clubs more protection from the mercenaries.

However - fans are also need to realign their expectations. If we're constantly hounding owners to offer better wages to attract players we can't sustain off the club's own revenue, it's not rocket science to see where that leads....

OK - so what benefactors do you know are happy to subside us for a couple million a year to do this? What's their incentive? What happens if we don't give them a return on investment and we're saddled with the subsequent debt?

I dunno maybe we can ask a Chinese sports company or something.....
Or one of the 40 interested parties interested in buying Wigan who have substantially higher debt and a higher wage bill??

#noownersoutthere


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 22, 2020, 15:13:47 pm
Iím only posting facts.

Under KT we cannot sustain league one football without extra investment.

Not my words but KTs

He said that extra investment was needed to take us to the next level and make us a competitive league one club....

Nothingís changed finance wise since the last time we were in this division(especially the redevelopment)

These are facts.

Given this what are peopleís expectations for the season ahead.

Iím afraid I see a season of struggle with an uncompetitive squad , low on the required quality leading to an instant return to league two.

We get into league one canít afford to compete in this league, donít spend and go back down

Nothing will be different to the last time around imo
Player sales for undisclosed fees , minimum investment in the squad with no long term plan on league one stability and a quick return to league two.

Sorry for the negativity but I see us as the Norwich of league one (happy to make up the numbers but not prepared to invest to stay in the division and build for the future)

Itís always been the same and Iíd love the chairman to come out and state what he plans to do differently this time around.

Maybe we will see a couple of Ďstatement of intent permanent signingsí but itís more likely we will sell anyone of value and meekly accept a season of struggle...

What do others actually think will happen??
Will we start the season with a stronger squad than the one that came up or will we be cannon fodder??

Look, you're probably not far off the mark. The lot of a Cobblers fan is to hope for the best but expect the worst. But don't be too down, we've only just got promoted. First requirement for sustainability in League 1 is to get there,  :). Next is to recruit well to avoid relegation, KC has done well on this score so far,  :). To push on then needs more investment as KT said, still true,  :-\.
Last time in League 1 we did throw money at the squad, unfortunately they proved to be the wrong players and the money didn't exist. I'm sure KT learned a lesson by getting his fingers badly burnt and the club appears to be better run now.
So let's hope for the best, many people predicted a season of struggle last year, I'd be thrilled if we struggled into the play-offs again. :)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 22, 2020, 15:21:48 pm
Look, you're probably not far off the mark. The lot of a Cobblers fan is to hope for the best but expect the worst. But don't be too down, we've only just got promoted. First requirement for sustainability in League 1 is to get there,  :). Next is to recruit well to avoid relegation, KC has done well on this score so far,  :). To push on then needs more investment as KT said, still true,  :-\.
Last time in League 1 we did throw money at the squad, unfortunately they proved to be the wrong players and the money didn't exist. I'm sure KT learned a lesson by getting his fingers badly burnt and the club appears to be better run now.
So let's hope for the best, many people predicted a season of struggle last year, I'd be thrilled if we struggled into the play-offs again. :)

Does that mean weíre not going to get Jack Marriott now ? 😉.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 22, 2020, 15:27:23 pm
Does that mean weíre not going to get Jack Marriott now ? 😉.

As I said, I never thought we would ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 22, 2020, 15:32:50 pm
As I said, I never thought we would ;)

Only joking mate, I forgot how much I hate silly season - all the usual suspects come out of the woodwork with their stories of woe. Thankfully itís not as long a window this year.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 15:36:58 pm
With the amount of players already / soon to be released & available it really is a buyers market.

I'd rather we take out time to bring in the best quality / characters we possible can for the best value.
I have much more faith in our scouting team since Melville left.

I still don't understand how the proposed salary cap will work as I believe it's gonna be 1.5M in L2 & 2.5M in L1

Yet, Bolton are allegedly paying stupid money for players already...

Still, I guess if it's down to the ELF to manage this they'll be fine!  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 15:54:03 pm
Look, you're probably not far off the mark. The lot of a Cobblers fan is to hope for the best but expect the worst. But don't be too down, we've only just got promoted. First requirement for sustainability in League 1 is to get there,  :). Next is to recruit well to avoid relegation, KC has done well on this score so far,  :). To push on then needs more investment as KT said, still true,  :-\.
Last time in League 1 we did throw money at the squad, unfortunately they proved to be the wrong players and the money didn't exist. I'm sure KT learned a lesson by getting his fingers badly burnt and the club appears to be better run now.
So let's hope for the best, many people predicted a season of struggle last year, I'd be thrilled if we struggled into the play-offs again. :)
Agreed  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Peles Big Toe on July 22, 2020, 16:03:00 pm
Or one of the 40 interested parties interested in buying Wigan who have substantially higher debt and a higher wage bill??

#noownersoutthere


You mean Wigan who got bought by a hedge fund that then put the club straight into admin a month later?

Or maybe Bury, Wimbledon, Scarborough, Halifax, Hereford that no longer exist.

Or the multitude of existing FL clubs absolutely riddled with debt as we head into a financial crisis.

Tell me, exactly why would a non-fan investor subsidize us for millions per year? What motive have they got that is aligned with the future sustainability and benefit of the club? How do we ensure they aren't another dodgy Chinese company, or Cardoza?

I've followed the forum for over a decade and you've always been the first to chirp up over signing 6 figure strikers. Every bloody window.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 22, 2020, 16:06:20 pm
Or one of the 40 interested parties interested in buying Wigan who have substantially higher debt and a higher wage bill??

#noownersoutthere

they had 5 genuine offers.

Quote
He added that "the bids were all similar bar one" and that "the decision took into account how much was being offered and the ability to meet certain criteria"....

It is understood the administrators declined to speak to prospective purchasers who were keen on using land owned by the club - which includes two training grounds - for development.

Isnt clear if the developers were included in the 5 offers though


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 16:22:47 pm
You mean Wigan who got bought by a hedge fund that then put the club straight into admin a month later?

Or maybe Bury, Wimbledon, Scarborough, Halifax, Hereford that no longer exist.

Or the multitude of existing FL clubs absolutely riddled with debt as we head into a financial crisis.

Tell me, exactly why would a non-fan investor subsidize us for millions per year? What motive have they got that is aligned with the future sustainability and benefit of the club? How do we ensure they aren't another dodgy Chinese company, or Cardoza?

I've followed the forum for over a decade and you've always been the first to chirp up over signing 6 figure strikers. Every bloody window.
Just pointing out that the likes of peterborough our local rivals spend money and stay up and we donít and go down
Iím sorry if the reality is lost upon you.
Anyway letís compare our squads with other comparable clubs come kick off
You never know we might show some ambition....
Currently we have just one contracted striker (two if you count Hoskins) and one first team centre half.
We certainly need some decent additions in this division....

Congratulations on following the forum for ten years your post rate is very low for that amount of time but maybe youíve had ten different log ins  ;D
Anyway letís see what things are like next month....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on July 22, 2020, 16:31:42 pm
You mean Wigan who got bought by a hedge fund that then put the club straight into admin a month later?

Or maybe Bury, Wimbledon, Scarborough, Halifax, Hereford that no longer exist.

Or the multitude of existing FL clubs absolutely riddled with debt as we head into a financial crisis.

Tell me, exactly why would a non-fan investor subsidize us for millions per year? What motive have they got that is aligned with the future sustainability and benefit of the club? How do we ensure they aren't another dodgy Chinese company, or Cardoza?

I've followed the forum for over a decade and you've always been the first to chirp up over signing 6 figure strikers. Every bloody window.

Halifax are in the National League and won a play off place only to be beaten by Boreham Wood, so they are not far off. Boreham Wood have an average gate of 700 so if they get into League 2 they are going to find life difficult, unless there is some investment.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 22, 2020, 16:39:44 pm
Iím only posting facts.


You are kidding yourself ... again. You have never posted a fact in your life; only a comment to suit your negative agenda.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 22, 2020, 16:46:34 pm
I wouldnít worry too much we all know the score anyway...


The Royal 'We' again; as if you speak for all of us ::)  If you can sow as much discord and doomsday scenarios then that will make you a happy chappie.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 17:52:18 pm
I wouldnít worry too much we all know the score anyway...
Sold to higher level club
Undisclosed fee...
Not until the end of the window though as still on a season ticket drive...

Nearer the start of next season we will sign a load of loans and free transfers with no long term ambition whilst trotting out excuses about coronavirus etc..

All very plausible if it werenít for the fact that Swindon for example were prepared to pay £200k plus for a striker but lost out to blackpool.

Itís also worth remembering that Swindon didnít have a record breaking cup run that pulled in roughly £750k (250k of which was definitely a bonus that was conveniently forgotten about especially now we need to strengthen for a higher level)

Last time we were in this league KT proclaimed this club needed extra investment to be competitive in this league...
The chinese shambles ensued.

This year itís obvious from his own mouth that KT isnít the man to help make us a league one club as he hasnít the money.
This year itíll be even more stark as owners can invest in clubs in order to buy players but can no longer claim the money as loans to the club that need to be paid back

The stadium needs addressing by the end of the month and better players need signing to help us stay in this division.

It wonít be long before we find out if our owners can compete with the likes of Swindon and actually go after decent signings or string us along on the way to a quick relegation.

I know what I think but I very much hope Iím wrong...

Letís hope KT makes a better job of getting investors on board this time so we have a fighting chance or maybe just maybe he will fund things himself....


In May, Swindon Town chairman Lee Power told a court that the club could go into administration as he failed to overturn an injunction preventing its sale.

Boss Ritchie Wellens will need to completely rebuild his front line following promotion.

Prolific striker Eoin Doyle (25 goals) and Keshi Anderson (six goals) turned down new deals to sign for Bolton and Blackpool respectively. Jerry Yates (13 goals) looks set to move elsewhere after his loan from Rotherham expired. The trio contributed 44 of the clubís 62 goals on the way to the title. If only theyíd chucked some money at these 3? A fine example to all league 1 clubs looking for longevity in the division, apparently youíre being a bit selective with your facts? Stick to hammering tacks in shoes mate!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 18:05:17 pm
In May, Swindon Town chairman Lee Power told a court that the club could go into administration as he failed to overturn an injunction preventing its sale.

Boss Ritchie Wellens will need to completely rebuild his front line following promotion.

Prolific striker Eoin Doyle (25 goals) and Keshi Anderson (six goals) turned down new deals to sign for Bolton and Blackpool respectively. Jerry Yates (13 goals) looks set to move elsewhere after his loan from Rotherham expired. The trio contributed 44 of the clubís 62 goals on the way to the title. A fine example to all league 1 clubs looking for longevity in the division, apparently youíre being a bit selective with your facts? Stick to hammering tacks in shoes mate!

In fairness Swindon bid £200,000 for Yates but he went to blackpool for £250,000 plus add ons
Get back to me when we match that sort of ambition .....
We currently canít get vadaine Oliver to re sign who would be on a fraction of Jerry Yates wage.
Thatís where we are.
But who knows we need a couple of proven strikers to replace Morton williams and waters and who knows we may yet sign a couple of players of the quality of Jerry Yates.
Time will tell


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 18:20:15 pm
In fairness Swindon bid £200,000 for Yates but he went to blackpool for £250,000 plus add ons
Get back to me when we match that sort of ambition .....
We currently canít get vadaine Oliver to re sign who would be on a fraction of Jerry Yates wage.
Thatís where we are.
But who knows we need a couple of proven strikers to replace Morton williams and waters and who knows we may yet sign a couple of players of the quality of Jerry Yates.
Time will tell
IMO itís a bit silly to draw comparisons without commenting on a clubs financial position and their ability to sustain their current spending? Lots of reckless behaviour out there that would be suicidal to replicate?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 18:25:42 pm
IMO itís a bit silly to draw comparisons without commenting on a clubs financial position and their ability to sustain their current spending? Lots of reckless behaviour out there that would be suicidal to replicate?
We will only know at the end of the season when the promotions and relegations are dealt out who has made the right decisions....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 18:30:12 pm
On a separate subject the clubs current owners were apparently 5 million in pre Covid? Should anyone be critical of the ambition of those running the club I would be curious to know the amount of investment considered reasonable on a league 2/1 club during the length their tenure? My personal advice is to spend at least 20% less than the income but Iím just a tw@t obviously?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 22, 2020, 18:32:06 pm
We will only know at the end of the season when the promotions and relegations are dealt out who has made the right decisions....
Or who is still solvent, according to Bury fans anyway?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on July 22, 2020, 19:49:02 pm
Shoemaker is an idiot sandwich.

Just posting facts.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 22, 2020, 20:00:14 pm
Or who is still solvent, according to Bury fans anyway?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53492243?at_campaign=64&at_custom3=Match+of+the+Day&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=FFA57C92-CB75-11EA-88E2-FB9DFCA12A29


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 22, 2020, 21:53:57 pm
No Michael Jacobs in the Wigan squad tonight....
No info whatsoever but could he be coming home or would he cost too much in wages??
Doesnít look like he has a future at Wigan...
What do others think
Would he be a good signing??


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 22, 2020, 21:56:53 pm
WBA up to Prem, so is Callum Morton available for loan?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 03:36:12 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53492243?at_campaign=64&at_custom3=Match+of+the+Day&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom1=[post+type]&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=FFA57C92-CB75-11EA-88E2-FB9DFCA12A29
Itís just heartbreaking isnít it? Some idiot with cash on the hip fancies a game of fantasy club ownership and this is the end result. I know I sound like a broken record but FFS. Anyone baiting their owners to spend millions in an attempt to indulge their own dreams and aspirations needs dragging onto the pitch at halftime, put into stocks and pelted with fruit? Thatís  IMO of course? Sensible sustainable spending for division one please, and let the others jump off a financial cliff if they want to? Thatís my view anyway.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 23, 2020, 10:26:00 am
I cant see us signing any Championship players such as Jacobs, i dont think people realise the gap in wages from league 1 to the champ, the average wage is around 16k for the division. I cant imagine we have ever paid anyone half of that.

There is a suggestion from a barrow fan we had a decent bid put in for 6'4 striker Scott Quigley but he has signed a new 3 year deal, no idea if our offer was true or not. Im not worried about Oliver re-signing, I think he will anyway, but i dont want us to push the boat out. This is a forward that I don't believe ever hit double digits in league, in fact I think his best total is 7 goals. You can argue that he is not in the team for his goals, but still, it wouldnt harm.

If he ever wants to play league one, it will be with us. If not I would happily go after another target man.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 11:13:07 am
Much talk of players of the ilk of Jacobs ďnot interestedĒ due to salaries being halved? Well most of the professional commentary Iíve heard talks of massive cuts in playing budgets and squads? Possibly 3 or 4 clubs minimum going to the wall by Christmas and a significant number of quality professionals left without a contract due to not taking the reduced deals on offer, because they were deemed laughable at the time? Itís like many supporters are completely oblivious to what is really going on? Lower league football was in crisis before Covid 19, and now it is facing the biggest test since its conception and that is a fact. If some of these so called ďin demandĒ players and their agents think they are going to p155 clubs about whilst they weigh up the multiple big contracts on offer they are on drugs? IMO there is going to be a slow dawning realisation as to whatís coming and a mad panic to grab a chair before the music stops? Donít be surprised if we end up with better players than Jacobs on our books in the January window playing for a fraction of what they were on before? People have to understand whatís coming, many of the clubs are owned by business people and many businesses are really struggling. The folly of football will go straight out of the window when these owners come under financial pressure and many undoubtedly already are? I canít emphasise this point enough, some football clubs are probably already doomed? In the unlikely event players do pick up a bigger contract the real achievement will be getting it paid beyond Christmas? Take the pi55 and carry on fiddling whilst Rome burns if you like, but donít be surprised if we are playing in the Championship next season because there wonít be enough full time professional clubs to make up a division below it? Overly pessimistic maybe, but not as anywhere near as unrealistic as you would believe? All that matters right now is solvency and just maybe weíll still have a club to support in 3 or 4 years time?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 23, 2020, 12:44:18 pm
Much talk of players of the ilk of Jacobs ďnot interestedĒ due to salaries being halved? Well most of the professional commentary Iíve heard talks of massive cuts in playing budgets and squads? Possibly 3 or 4 clubs minimum going to the wall by Christmas and a significant number of quality professionals left without a contract due to not taking the reduced deals on offer, because they were deemed laughable at the time? Itís like many supporters are completely oblivious to what is really going on? Lower league football was in crisis before Covid 19, and now it is facing the biggest test since its conception and that is a fact. If some of these so called ďin demandĒ players and their agents think they are going to p155 clubs about whilst they weigh up the multiple big contracts on offer they are on drugs? IMO there is going to be a slow dawning realisation as to whatís coming and a mad panic to grab a chair before the music stops? Donít be surprised if we end up with better players than Jacobs on our books in the January window playing for a fraction of what they were on before? People have to understand whatís coming, many of the clubs are owned by business people and many businesses are really struggling. The folly of football will go straight out of the window when these owners come under financial pressure and many undoubtedly already are? I canít emphasise this point enough, some football clubs are probably already doomed? In the unlikely event players do pick up a bigger contract the real achievement will be getting it paid beyond Christmas? Take the pi55 and carry on fiddling whilst Rome burns if you like, but donít be surprised if we are playing in the Championship next season because there wonít be enough full time professional clubs to make up a division below it? Overly pessimistic maybe, but not as anywhere near as unrealistic as you would believe? All that matters right now is solvency and just maybe weíll still have a club to support in 3 or 4 years time?

Brilliant post in terms of people needing a reality check
Football and the rest of the world is a very different place to the one 6 months ago
Iíd rather have a season of struggle and surviving for years to come than throw away the work of making us sustainable. We have all heard of clubs like Wigan, Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield who could disappear yet through all this we havenít had any inclination that the club could fold and thatís something we should be grateful to the board for.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 23, 2020, 12:49:57 pm

We currently canít get vadaine Oliver to re sign who would be on a fraction of Jerry Yates wage.
Thatís where we are.


Maybe we arenít willing to meet his terms and itís not a case of us failing. Remember heís had a few clubs before us so doesnít stick around.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 23, 2020, 13:03:59 pm
Three things;

1; I'm sure MC is correct. We need prudence.

2: From the owner's perspective they are probably looking for clarity regarding Goode and any transfer fee offered (KT made it pretty clear he was interested in offers with his comments) and forming an effective Budget post that.

3; It's probably in both the club's and potential signings interest's to think one year contract only. Renegotiate next Summer when the Covid situation may be clearer.

One wonders how this whole situation has affected the income streams of the football industry generally.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 23, 2020, 13:32:41 pm
Three things;

1; I'm sure MC is correct. We need prudence.

2: From the owner's perspective they are probably looking for clarity regarding Goode and any transfer fee offered (KT made it pretty clear he was interested in offers with his comments) and forming an effective Budget post that.

3; It's probably in both the club's and potential signings interest's to think one year contract only. Renegotiate next Summer when the Covid situation may be clearer.

One wonders how this whole situation has affected the income streams of the football industry generally.

Sounds sensible but Harriman and Hoskins have both already signed for 2 more years - I canít remember who said it (it may have been Shoey in which case take it with a pinch of salt) but if Oliver is only being offered a year then he is probably entitled to be a bit peed off/considering his options. With Goode we are in a rare case of being in a strong position - his stock is never going to be as high and we have him under contract for 2 more years which should mean we are likely to get what heís worth - itís just typical that the ar*e has fallen out of the transfer market.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 13:48:09 pm
From what I've heard, 3-4 clubs by Christmas is very conservative, more like 3-4 clubs before the new season starts and a dozen by Christmas could be out of business.  The financial 'noises' coming from our club are currently positive, but there are a lot who aren't, some may/will be a surprise when it happens... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 23, 2020, 14:04:45 pm
WBA up to Prem, so is Callum Morton available for loan?
I think he'll end up at Derby County - as a permanent signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 23, 2020, 14:31:02 pm
I think he'll end up at Derby County - as a permanent signing.

Any reason behind those thoughts?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 23, 2020, 15:26:17 pm
From what I've heard, 3-4 clubs by Christmas is very conservative, more like 3-4 clubs before the new season starts and a dozen by Christmas could be out of business.  The financial 'noises' coming from our club are currently positive, but there are a lot who aren't, some may/will be a surprise when it happens... ;)

Anyone know when those Premier League to EFL clubs solidarity payments are actually paid over? Some/many clubs must be desperate for them.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 15:32:09 pm
From what I've heard, 3-4 clubs by Christmas is very conservative, more like 3-4 clubs before the new season starts and a dozen by Christmas could be out of business.  The financial 'noises' coming from our club are currently positive, but there are a lot who aren't, some may/will be a surprise when it happens... ;)
Felt like I was walking a tightrope with the scaremongering, but yes it was conservative. How far do you go before you lose credibility? Not that I had any to start with or anything? On the list perchance?
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/leaked-accounts-show-sunderlands-staggering-ps205million-financial-hole-stewart-donald-writes-debt-2847651
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2020/4/1/21199362/sunderlands-financial-future-where-does-coronavirus-leave-the-club


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on July 23, 2020, 15:46:34 pm
Did I recollect a comment from Kelvin previously regarding Toney, does anyone know if we are likely to get a further cash injection if he is sold by Pish?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 23, 2020, 15:53:34 pm
Did I recollect a comment from Kelvin previously regarding Toney, does anyone know if we are likely to get a further cash injection if he is sold by Pish?

I wouldnít have thought so - he went from us to Newcastle and then to P**h, itís only the previous club who usually gets a sell on. £11 million being floated about!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 23, 2020, 16:02:41 pm
Any reason behind those thoughts?
Not really, other than the opening lines of Wet Wet Wet or the Troggs famous little number!

Perfect fit though!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2020, 19:00:49 pm
First rumour Iíve seen was on one football forum. Allegedly we put a £150k bid in for Barrows Scott Quigley.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 23, 2020, 19:03:24 pm
First rumour Iíve seen was on one football forum. Allegedly we put a £150k bid in for Barrows Scott Quigley.
You'd expect Bolton Wanderers to snap up any Barrow starlets!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 23, 2020, 19:17:40 pm
First rumour Iíve seen was on one football forum. Allegedly we put a £150k bid in for Barrows Scott Quigley.

Signed a new 3 year contract yesterday.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 23, 2020, 20:31:30 pm
You'd expect Bolton Wanderers to snap up any Barrow starlets!

Agreement as part of Evatts exit that they couldnít go after any Barrow players for 2 years!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2020, 21:12:09 pm
Signed a new 3 year contract yesterday.

https://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?threads/league-2-transfer-rumours-confirmed-transfers-2020-2021.9/page-895 post no. 26830. Did see that he had signed that contract. I hope there wasn't any truth to it and am happy he has signed up. Never succeeded in the league.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 23, 2020, 22:09:20 pm
Not really, other than the opening lines of Wet Wet Wet or the Troggs famous little number!

Perfect fit though!
Gout?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 23:36:29 pm
From what I've heard, 3-4 clubs by Christmas is very conservative, more like 3-4 clubs before the new season starts and a dozen by Christmas could be out of business.  The financial 'noises' coming from our club are currently positive, but there are a lot who aren't, some may/will be a surprise when it happens... ;)
10-15 Critical and on the watch list according to the government Digital , Culture, Media and Sport (dcms) Committee. Thatís 1 in 5.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/53496696


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Baggie192 on July 24, 2020, 10:19:05 am
I think he'll end up at Derby County - as a permanent signing.

Why? We can offer better wages, plus, Derby face both a deduction and an embargo


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 24, 2020, 10:21:15 am
An interview yesterday that suggests Scott Wharton is set to stay at Blackburn and fight for a spot in the first team

ďLeague Two is more in the air and very physical, but in the Championship, there is more quality and I will have to step up my game.
I need to get on with my career, be the best I can be and play at the highest level I can play at.
I think now is the time to really give it a good go.Ē

https://omni-sports.co.uk/scott-wharton-defender-has-eyes-on-rovers-return-after-three-promotions-in-two-seasons/

Can't begrudge him that at his boyhood club after 3 successive promotions on loan. Welcome back anytime!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 24, 2020, 11:02:00 am
An interview yesterday that suggests Scott Wharton is set to stay at Blackburn and fight for a spot in the first team

ďLeague Two is more in the air and very physical, but in the Championship, there is more quality and I will have to step up my game.
I need to get on with my career, be the best I can be and play at the highest level I can play at.
I think now is the time to really give it a good go.Ē

https://omni-sports.co.uk/scott-wharton-defender-has-eyes-on-rovers-return-after-three-promotions-in-two-seasons/

Can't begrudge him that at his boyhood club after 3 successive promotions on loan. Welcome back anytime!

If we cannot get him back then Goode cannot be for sale at any cost.  3 new CBs, new DM, New LB and potential new GK has "slow start" written all over it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblersmad on July 24, 2020, 11:56:12 am
Alistair Slowe is set to rejoin us on a six year contract making him the clubs highest earner.
Must be true cos I read it on a Facebook page and a Twitter thread...  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 24, 2020, 13:09:45 pm
If we cannot get him back then Goode cannot be for sale at any cost.  3 new CBs, new DM, New LB and potential new GK has "slow start" written all over it.

We have Harriman at left back (or rather left-wing back) do we not?

I agree completely with your general point though. Continuity is very important, especially in defence.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 24, 2020, 13:41:38 pm
Harriman usually plays on the right. He was switched to the left in the play off final to counteract the threat of Williams otherwise Adams and then Marshall would have needed to track back to do this.
We have Martin who plays left back but I thought his best game for us was when he had to play on the left side of the back 3.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 24, 2020, 13:48:22 pm
Pre-season will be key.

Goode will leave if the price is right.

Arnold is our Goalkeeper and did well in League 1 with Shrewsbury.

When I saw Martin "live" he seemed ok though I've had my doubts when I've seen him on IFollow.

Curle's got a hell of a job to do but his (and his staff's) knowledge of the lower leagues should come in very, very handy.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 24, 2020, 17:26:38 pm
I get the feeling Goode will be off to Wednesday, but its definitely not a certainly. It is however going to be massive rebuilding job, but if it happens to be in a climate where players are getting falling wages maybe we'll end up with some better value in.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on July 24, 2020, 20:58:35 pm
Why do people think Goode will be off to Derby or Wednesday? You know, the two clubs that really can't spend any more money right now. That stupid rumour site could have at least done some research.

Plus, is he really in that class? Wayne Rooney, Barry Bannan, Curtis Davies, Dominic Iorfa... Charlie Goode. If I were Gary Monk and assuming I'd ever even heard of Charlie Goode, personally I'd want to see how he goes in L1 first, whilst worrying that I can't spend any money but currently have only ONE striker (who no longer scores) on the books for next season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 24, 2020, 21:31:51 pm
Derby are s***e. Wednesday are a mid-week club. Can't see what all the fuss is about.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 25, 2020, 06:50:40 am
I get the feeling Goode will be off to Wednesday, but its definitely not a certainly. It is however going to be massive rebuilding job, but if it happens to be in a climate where players are getting falling wages maybe we'll end up with some better value in.

Stop panicking. If Goode goes he goes. Remember Pierre? Jackman? Osman? Coke? Holmes? Anya? Bayo? All these player we had fret and speculate over and guess what they moved on and we are still here. Goode ain't going to be around for ever, so why waste time even thinking about it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 25, 2020, 14:17:56 pm
Stop panicking. If Goode goes he goes. Remember Pierre? Jackman? Osman? Coke? Holmes? Anya? Bayo? All these player we had fret and speculate over and guess what they moved on and we are still here. Goode ain't going to be around for ever, so why waste time even thinking about it.

Right attitude- too many worriers!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: NTFC87 on July 25, 2020, 17:14:48 pm
Hope Goode does stay but if he goes I hope we get decent money for him. We seem to have a habit of not getting the best money for who ever we sell and we all know it will be an undisclosed fee


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 25, 2020, 20:30:06 pm
Hope Goode does stay but if he goes I hope we get decent money for him. We seem to have a habit of not getting the best money for who ever we sell and we all know it will be an undisclosed fee

So how do you know it's not the best money?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 25, 2020, 21:29:11 pm
So how do you know it's not the best money?

Think we can rule out Sheffield Wednesday for the time being.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 25, 2020, 21:56:18 pm
Stop panicking. If Goode goes he goes. Remember Pierre? Jackman? Osman? Coke? Holmes? Anya? Bayo? All these player we had fret and speculate over and guess what they moved on and we are still here. Goode ain't going to be around for ever, so why waste time even thinking about it.

Isnít that what this forum is for? To discuss options on all things cobblers, Whether thatís how good players are, potential signings, amongst a million other things. Yes players come and go, the team also goes up and down the league, but it would be insane to think the two arenít linked. No player is irreplaceable but the better they are the harder and less likely it is they will be replaced by someone equally good.

While we might still be here (in the league) surely we're like a cat thatís used up 8 of its 9 lives, itís not unrealistic to think in the future we could be the next Hereford, Stockport or Torquay. Having said that whatever happens with Goode (IĎd love him to stay) Iím hoping KC can pull a few rabbits out the hat in the transfer market this summer or else next season could be a struggle!.




Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 25, 2020, 23:32:45 pm
Isnít that what this forum is for? To discuss options on all things cobblers, Whether thatís how good players are, potential signings, amongst a million other things. Yes players come and go, the team also goes up and down the league, but it would be insane to think the two arenít linked. No player is irreplaceable but the better they are the harder and less likely it is they will be replaced by someone equally good.

While we might still be here (in the league) surely we're like a cat thatís used up 8 of its 9 lives, itís not unrealistic to think in the future we could be the next Hereford, Stockport or Torquay. Having said that whatever happens with Goode (IĎd love him to stay) Iím hoping KC can pull a few rabbits out the hat in the transfer market this summer or else next season could be a struggle!

I think 151ís comment is a cry to most of us to stop crying if Goode leaves. Itís happened before and the trend will continue with us and all clubs! Strangely enough your message seems to support 151ís comments
Particularly the final paraí. The real good thing is that we have a manage who is committed to the Club and not jump ship.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 25, 2020, 23:35:21 pm
I think 151ís comment is a cry to most of us to stop crying if Goode leaves. Itís happened before and the trend will continue with us and all clubs! Strangely enough your message seems to support 151ís comments
Particularly the final paraí. The real good thing is that we have a manage who is committed to the Club and not jump ship.

Exactly that.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on July 26, 2020, 12:51:40 pm
Jamie Proctor was with them for their end of season night out. Signing number 1 then.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 26, 2020, 12:59:08 pm
Jamie Proctor was with them for their end of season night out. Signing number 1 then.

I hope heís not an out and out striker with his scoring record - then again I said the same about Oliver and he proved me wrong.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 26, 2020, 14:13:45 pm
Now that is a signing of intent  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 26, 2020, 14:21:34 pm
I hope heís not an out and out striker with his scoring record - then again I said the same about Oliver and he proved me wrong.

olivers goalscoring proved you wrong?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 26, 2020, 14:30:40 pm
olivers goalscoring proved you wrong?


No mate, his value to the team was more than the goals he scored.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 26, 2020, 14:44:28 pm
Now that is a signing of intent  ;D

You can breathe again - a cursory google shows him to be still under contract with Rotherham for another year plus heís only just had an operation on his knee.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 26, 2020, 14:55:24 pm
If Goode stays, the decision to release Turnbull looks like a strange but understandable exercise in cost cutting; if Goode goes, the decision to release Turnbull looks like a dangerous and unnecessary act of self-sabotage.

That to me is what is at stake.

Starting the season at a higher level with a completely new goalkeeper (probably) and set of centre backs would be a huge **** to put it mildly particularly as I would argue that our promotion was built on the strength of our back three. Obviously if we were to somehow to get hold of Wharton for another year it would put a different complexion on things.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 26, 2020, 15:46:35 pm
You can breathe again - a cursory google shows him to be still under contract with Rotherham for another year plus heís only just had an operation on his knee.

Good, would have been an awful signing


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 27, 2020, 09:57:54 am
Saw Fleetwoods retained list...

Wonder what Curle makes of Kyle Dempsey being released... former Carlisle player but not sure if their paths crossed?
Made a good chunk of Championship appearances at a young age for Huddersfield.
Plenty of League 1 experience and still only 24 years of age.





Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 27, 2020, 10:47:25 am
Saw Fleetwoods retained list...

Wonder what Curle makes of Kyle Dempsey being released... former Carlisle player but not sure if their paths crossed?
Made a good chunk of Championship appearances at a young age for Huddersfield.
Plenty of League 1 experience and still only 24 years of age.




Thatís a good shout - their paths did indeed cross at Carlisle, it will be interesting to see if we try to sign him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 27, 2020, 10:59:41 am
Why did Kyle Dempsey make zero appearances last season?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 27, 2020, 11:06:47 am
Why did Kyle Dempsey make zero appearances last season?

Oh dear - good question!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 27, 2020, 11:08:33 am
Why did Kyle Dempsey make zero appearances last season?

It looks like he played 30 times for them last season, picked up a back injury in February but then came back in the playoffs. He was offered a new deal which would have made him their highest paid player but it looks like he turned it down.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 27, 2020, 11:28:49 am
He got a move from Carlisle to Huddersfield in the Championship on the back of his best ever goal scoring season... under Keith Curle.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 27, 2020, 12:25:34 pm
It looks like he played 30 times for them last season, picked up a back injury in February but then came back in the playoffs. He was offered a new deal which would have made him their highest paid player but it looks like he turned it down.

If this is true then suggests he may have visions of a return to Championship or a bigger team in L1...

Looked more into it this morning and would love to see him at Sixfields but seems less likely, lot of teams will be after that signature


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 27, 2020, 16:19:39 pm
Midfielder being announced today, unsure of time, could be tomorrow


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Tom on July 27, 2020, 16:33:02 pm
Christopher Missilou - Just announced.

Defensive midfielder, 1 Year contract, previously at Oldham.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 27, 2020, 16:37:10 pm
Anyone know if this chappy is any good


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 27, 2020, 16:45:04 pm
Yes ntfclad! Never wrong

Largely happy with that as a signing, Oldham fans online seem to have very much wanted him to stay.

Is the 1 year deal a sign he has only been added as squad depth rather than a starter or do you think thats more of a marker of what realistic contracts will look like post Corona virus?
He's 28 so can't say its much to do with age surely.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 27, 2020, 17:01:59 pm
I often go on about better quality proven players needing to be signed but to be fair even I can see this chap will be a perfect fit for us and the way we play.
He is surely the McCormack replacement and looks to me to be a hybrid of o toole and McCormack what with the vision and passing range of McCormack and the ball winning of o toole.
Iíve never heard of him to be fair but he looks a proper 100% player that the northampton fans always take too.
I can see him becoming a fan favourite and itís good we have found a midfield ball winner because they are surprisingly hard to come by.
Iíd imagine he will start with McWilliams back up and still recovering/learning.

Welcome Christopher.
Give your all and the fans will back you.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 27, 2020, 17:14:44 pm
Looks OK.

Oldham offered him something and their fans seem to have been fairly keen on him staying.

As with any new signing a lot will depend on who is brought in with him. IMO we need an experienced 30+ leader with League 1 experience to replace McCormack. (In previous years the likes of Ian Taylor and Matty Taylor have performed this role.)

I initially thought that the experienced head would be in defensive midfield, but I suppose it could equally be in the form of a centre back or attacking midfielder. I still think we need a play-maker with a bit of guille to give us another option in the midfield three. On the other hand, who knows: perhaps Lines will have a renaissance next year?

The Carlisle fan who posts occasionally on here told us that Curle is a massive fan of 'incentivised contracts' and I think we're going to see quite a lot of that in the present climate. Missilou will have a decent incentive to perform next year and may respond well to playing at a higher level. 

 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 27, 2020, 17:34:12 pm
Looks OK.

Oldham offered him something and their fans seem to have been fairly keen on him staying.

As with any new signing a lot will depend on who is brought in with him. IMO we need an experienced 30+ leader with League 1 experience to replace McCormack. (In previous years the likes of Ian Taylor and Matty Taylor have performed this role.)

I initially thought that the experienced head would be in defensive midfield, but I suppose it could equally be in the form of a centre back or attacking midfielder. I still think we need a play-maker with a bit of guille to give us another option in the midfield three. On the other hand, who knows: perhaps Lines will have a renaissance next year?

The Carlisle fan who posts occasionally on here told us that Curle is a massive fan of 'incentivised contracts' and I think we're going to see quite a lot of that in the present climate. Missilou will have a decent incentive to perform next year and may respond well to playing at a higher level. 

Agree with you and appears to be a player who will fit into Curles scheme of things


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 27, 2020, 17:41:38 pm
Looks OK.

Oldham offered him something and their fans seem to have been fairly keen on him staying.

As with any new signing a lot will depend on who is brought in with him. IMO we need an experienced 30+ leader with League 1 experience to replace McCormack. (In previous years the likes of Ian Taylor and Matty Taylor have performed this role.)

I initially thought that the experienced head would be in defensive midfield, but I suppose it could equally be in the form of a centre back or attacking midfielder. I still think we need a play-maker with a bit of guille to give us another option in the midfield three. On the other hand, who knows: perhaps Lines will have a renaissance next year?

The Carlisle fan who posts occasionally on here told us that Curle is a massive fan of 'incentivised contracts' and I think we're going to see quite a lot of that in the present climate. Missilou will have a decent incentive to perform next year and may respond well to playing at a higher level. 

 

BBC report says he has signed a one year contract with option of another year.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 27, 2020, 18:00:05 pm
Midfielder being announced today, unsure of time, could be tomorrow

As reliable as ever, well done mate.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on July 27, 2020, 20:19:57 pm
I've seen a report suggesting we're about to sign Ikechi Anya on a 2 year deal (source transfer centre 9 twitter). Probably rubbish.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 27, 2020, 21:02:52 pm
I've seen a report suggesting we're about to sign Ikechi Anya on a 2 year deal (source transfer centre 9 twitter). Probably rubbish.

32 years old and hasn't had any game time with Derby this year. Stranger things have happened and would be a potentially outstanding signing for this level.

Adams as right wing back and Anya as left wing back would be a very interesting proposition.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Tom on July 27, 2020, 22:02:30 pm
32 years old and hasn't had any game time with Derby this year. Stranger things have happened and would be a potentially outstanding signing for this level.

Adams as right wing back and Anya as left wing back would be a very interesting proposition.

I was pretty sad when he left last time round, but that was probably 10 years ago now & he was very reliant on pace.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 27, 2020, 22:54:08 pm
Iíve no idea if he still has pace but he would bring outstanding hair to a squad that is sadly lacking in the hairstyles department.
I also think we need to recruit some more facial hair especially with the loss of Paul Anderson.

Itís not always the best team that wins promotion but itís been proved time and time again that your chances of success on the pitch are greatly enhanced with special hairstyles and burgeoning facial hair.

Ikechi Anya would be an outstanding signing given this criteria.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 27, 2020, 23:05:02 pm
I often go on about better quality proven players needing to be signed but to be fair even I can see this chap will be a perfect fit for us and the way we play.
He is surely the McCormack replacement and looks to me to be a hybrid of o toole and McCormack what with the vision and passing range of McCormack and the ball winning of o toole.
Iíve never heard of him to be fair but he looks a proper 100% player that the northampton fans always take too.
I can see him becoming a fan favourite and itís good we have found a midfield ball winner because they are surprisingly hard to come by.
Iíd imagine he will start with McWilliams back up and still recovering/learning.

Welcome Christopher.
Give your all and the fans will back you.

Unusual up beat comment from you - so whats in your tea today ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 28, 2020, 10:24:54 am
I was pretty sad when he left last time round, but that was probably 10 years ago now & he was very reliant on pace.

That roller coaster of emotions

-Yes we are going to sign Anya!
-Oh no we missed out
-Wait what "Sevilla" , WTF ?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 28, 2020, 10:30:02 am
There were some extremely optimistic whispers around George Thomas to Cobblers, he's now signed for QPR yesterday

Anya would be a great but realistic signing, as pointed out low on game time but a proven Chamionship level player with decent Prem experience in the twilight of his career now.

Young, exciting wingers are the next most sought after players and some of the most expensive so finding some quality in ageing wide players and shorter deals is quite sensible. Adams, Anya and Marshall all 32+ but I'd be happy with that!





Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 28, 2020, 10:39:37 am
Anya is NEVER going to happen plus he's injury prone which goes against everything KC has stated he wants in a player.

He's stated he needs players available Saturday/Tuesday. Also, Anya will be on decent wages and we ain't (nor should we) pay big wages for anyone is the current climate.

I'd rather have that winger who tormented us at home playing for Morecambe last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Fred_NTFC on July 28, 2020, 11:54:01 am
Anya is NEVER going to happen plus he's injury prone which goes against everything KC has stated he wants in a player.

He's stated he needs players available Saturday/Tuesday. Also, Anya will be on decent wages and we ain't (nor should we) pay big wages for anyone is the current climate.

I'd rather have that winger who tormented us at home playing for Morecambe last season.

Carlos Mendes Gomes but he already signed an extension with them.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on July 28, 2020, 12:12:01 pm
Anya was on £27k a week at Derby apparently. Obviously hes not going to get offered anything close to that now he hasn't played in 2 years but he's not going to be cheap... and therefore a massive **** given his age and recent fitness record. Will almost certainly have to drop to L1 to get a game though.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 28, 2020, 13:02:39 pm
Well, we allegedly didn't give Turnbull a contract because we didn't think he'd be motivated to play with the lower wages offered, so I think we can discount offering something to someone on Anya's wages.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 28, 2020, 13:48:46 pm
Well, we allegedly didn't give Turnbull a contract because we didn't think he'd be motivated to play with the lower wages offered, so I think we can discount offering something to someone on Anya's wages.

Exactly..................and surely Turnbull's position was more significant than Anya's especially as we already have Adams and Marshall and various others who can cover e.g. McWilliams, Hoskins, Martin ?

Turnbull also offered a potential transfer fee going forward.

Let's invest in youth and the up and comers with ambition.

I also note that there is now some evidence/plan that the whole of next season will be played out with significant restrictions to the gate. Lower anticipated income must mean lower player's salaries.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 28, 2020, 14:08:59 pm
From what I am reading contract offers are only going to get smaller as more and more players become desperate to get signed. They shouldnít be surprised if they end up taking half what they may have been offered at the end of the season? 1 year contract and if you donít pull your weight you get the chop in January will be the norm for the foreseeable future? And thatís if you are one of the lucky ones whoís club doesnít fold before the end of the season? The Bosman ruling playing out to its logical conclusion, it was only a matter of time!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 28, 2020, 17:09:15 pm
Salford City have signed Jordan Turnbull on a 2 year contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 29, 2020, 00:15:32 am
Anyone know if thereís any truth in the ikechi anya rumour? And if heís still rapid?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 29, 2020, 01:04:48 am
Only one person in this thread has any clue whatsoever, but I don't think it's likely, no. Think it'd have been more likely if it wasn't just yet another ex-player being linked, like Bayo or Holmes.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 29, 2020, 01:14:33 am
Only one person in this thread has any clue whatsoever, but I don't think it's likely, no. Think it'd have been more likely if it wasn't just yet another ex-player being linked, like Bayo or Holmes.

Valid point thanks pal, only happen in my eyes if it comes out of ntfclads mouth


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 29, 2020, 07:59:07 am
Valid point thanks pal, only happen in my eyes if it comes out of ntfclads mouth

Youíve made a few arsey comments about me, everything alright at home?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 29, 2020, 11:57:22 am
Salford City have signed Jordan Turnbull on a 2 year contract.

throwing money at an attempt at promotion


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 29, 2020, 14:17:31 pm
Keith Downie, Sky News NE England reporter said this afternoon that Middlesborough are seriously in for Charlie Goode

Neil Warnock has approached Northampton Town for their captain Charlie Goode. QPR also interested. The centre back is valued at £750,000.

If he was to leave, what is a realistic fee you'd be happy with..?

£750k would still be our club record transfer fee out yes!?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 29, 2020, 14:32:47 pm
Keith Downie, Sky News NE England reporter said this afternoon that Middlesborough are seriously in for Charlie Goode

Neil Warnock has approached Northampton Town for their captain Charlie Goode. QPR also interested. The centre back is valued at £750,000.

If he was to leave, what is a realistic fee you'd be happy with..?

£750k would still be our club record transfer fee out yes!?

i assume jepson will know all the ins and outs of his contract - so that might be his release clause!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 29, 2020, 14:42:32 pm
Am told the bids for Goode so far are just shy of £500k so a bit of work to do for any buying clubs

Also itís both Boro and QPR whoíve bid


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 29, 2020, 14:44:03 pm
Goode is obviously a good centre back, but so was Pierre and we replaced him and Im confident we'll do so again for money that will keep us safe with during the danger times.

He's strong and confjdent on the ball, but hes not the complete defenser and does have to rely on the dark arts to bail himself out at times. So yeah, I think 750k would be a fair price for him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 29, 2020, 14:57:27 pm
If he played for peterborough theyíd be holding out for well over a million.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 29, 2020, 15:02:04 pm
Youíve made a few arsey comments about me, everything alright at home?

What r u on about?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 29, 2020, 15:08:02 pm
Am told the bids for Goode so far are just shy of £500k so a bit of work to do for any buying clubs

Also itís both Boro and QPR whoíve bid
Could be that Pearson will soon be installed as the next manager at Middlesbrough, or Head Coach as Watford pedantically refer to the role as!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 29, 2020, 15:17:47 pm
Am told the bids for Goode so far are just shy of £500k so a bit of work to do for any buying clubs

Also itís both Boro and QPR whoíve bid

Is the touted £750k figure what the club value him at & the minimum they will accept?

If he goes to Boro, wouldn't mind Marcus Browne being part of the deal or even a season long loan...if only to pi55 off Poxford  ;D

Any other nuggets in or out ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 29, 2020, 15:27:01 pm
If he played for peterborough theyíd be holding out for well over a million.

To be fair he'd have been playing in League 1 and impressing as well. He's impressed for us in L2.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 29, 2020, 15:32:50 pm
I know Iím probably guilty of knicker wetting but it beggars belief that once again we have got promoted to league one and we are looking at a complete rebuild. If Goode goes (which looks very likely as KT is now on record as saying we wonít stand in his way if a big club comes in and 2 have now come in for him) and Oliver turns his contract down (I know heís not exactly harry Kane but he has been very effective for the way we play) then we could be left with just 5 of the players that started the playoff final.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 29, 2020, 15:38:13 pm
Is the touted £750k figure what the club value him at & the minimum they will accept?

If he goes to Boro, wouldn't mind Marcus Browne being part of the deal or even a season long loan...if only to pi55 off Poxford  ;D

Any other nuggets in or out ntfclad?

Those inside the club are a bit confused at the £750k figure and where itís come from is what Iíve been told, potentially aware of the backlash on social media 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 29, 2020, 15:43:30 pm
Not a good sign already


             Gone     Gone 

                 Hoskins
     
Adams   Gone     Watson        Harriman
     
         Gone   Gone  Gone
                  Arnold


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 29, 2020, 15:43:54 pm
Could be that Pearson will soon be installed as the next manager at Middlesbrough, or Head Coach as Watford pedantically refer to the role as!

Warnock has already accepted the job going forward (as of yesterday).


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 29, 2020, 15:45:56 pm
Those inside the club are a bit confused at the £750k figure and where itís come from is what Iíve been told, potentially aware of the backlash on social media 

First mention of that figure I saw was Keith Downie on twitter to be fair
Perhaps thats the amount 'Boro and QPR value him at rather than on our sided


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 29, 2020, 15:47:19 pm
I donít know why anyone is in the least bit surprised that the club have got promoted and are dismantling the squad.

There is no ambition to be anything other than a league two club

Same old same old.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 29, 2020, 15:55:17 pm
Have i missed something? Who dismantling the club?

Goode still here and club stating they want to keep him.
Oliver offered a new deal. Obviously dont know how good
Wharton & Morton already talking to the clubs to get them back

McCormack (would have kept him) replaced


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 29, 2020, 16:12:42 pm
Those inside the club are a bit confused at the £750k figure and where itís come from is what Iíve been told, potentially aware of the backlash on social media 
So you're saying that we value him for more than that then? I know he has two years on the contract so we have that on our side, but there can't be that many League Two centrebacks that go for north of a million.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 29, 2020, 16:36:32 pm
Have i missed something? Who dismantling the club?

Goode still here and club stating they want to keep him.of course they say that, but we all know that if a lower league club gets offered enough he'll be on his way, thats football
Oliver offered a new deal. Obviously dont know how good boviously we don't, however there must be a reason he hasn't signed up yet
Wharton & Morton already talking to the clubs to get them back do we know this for sure? Wharton has already stated his intention to fight for a place at his parent club

McCormack (would have kept him) replaced replaced with an unknown from the division below....when McCormack came in he was a league 1 player and we were league 2, we've replaced him with a league 2 player now we are League 1

As for the others, early days yet but Turnbull has gone..... Cornell who appeared in the majority of games last season has gone, and Andy Williams, our top scorer over the last two seasons has gone too.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with "dismantled"....but you can see where he's coming from. The likes of Marquis and Collins returned to their parent clubs, and Adams and Holmes went off to pastures new in 2016, and Rob Page was also accused of "dismantling" the squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on July 29, 2020, 16:47:59 pm
Turnbull struggled in L1 for Coventry didn't he?

Maybe Vadaine has already signed up and it just hasn't been announced yet?

Goode was always going to leave, we don't have the capacity to turn down bids of a certain amount and I also assume Goode would want to play in the Championship, it isn't always a lack of ambition to keep a player.

We know the club have said they have held conversations about Morton/Wharton - if one of both of them don't want to come back, what can the club do?

McCormack, too expensive for the games he plays but agree he would have been good to keep.

Ultimately, glass half full or glass half empty, right?

It's a very very different scenario to the Rob Page summer and if you can't see that then more fool you.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Fred_NTFC on July 29, 2020, 17:25:50 pm
It's a difficult one because whilst under normal circumstances I'd want to play hardball & insist on a price tag of a million, these aren't normal times & I think there will definitely be a downturn in clubs paying big transfer fees in the EFL. The facts are that 750k would be a massive boost & possibly sustain us for a season with the prospect of other sides simply struggling to survive.

I do think Goode has massive potential though, so in some ways a decent sell-on clause may end up being the most important thing, I think he's a born winner & is likely to go right to the top.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 29, 2020, 17:42:33 pm
So you're saying that we value him for more than that then? I know he has two years on the contract so we have that on our side, but there can't be that many League Two centrebacks that go for north of a million.

Closer to a million apparently


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 29, 2020, 17:48:26 pm
Teams that keep the core of their first team and improve on it normally do fine, teams who throw the baby out with the bath water tend to struggle.

I personally think you need to keep about 75% of you back 5 together and most of the spine.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblersmad on July 29, 2020, 18:05:05 pm
Players come, players go.
Likes to hoof it up top a lot, and when he played against Championship opposition in Derby, he got caught out and should have been sent off in the 1st leg.
And don't forget the 1st leg of Cheltenham when he didn't deal with the corner correctly for their 1st goal.
Call me cynical but whatever is offered we should take. As people on here have said there will be a lot of players looking for clubs, who may turn out to be better.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 29, 2020, 18:35:15 pm
Players come, players go.
Likes to hoof it up top a lot, and when he played against Championship opposition in Derby, he got caught out and should have been sent off in the 1st leg.
And don't forget the 1st leg of Cheltenham when he didn't deal with the corner correctly for their 1st goal.
Call me cynical but whatever is offered we should take. As people on here have said there will be a lot of players looking for clubs, who may turn out to be better.


I disagree completely - he was immense in the home game against derby and there was a collective failure for the Cheltenham goal, you donít mention how superb he was in the playoff second leg and final. He is only 23 and I agree with the club valuation of £1m, Iím far less confident that KC will get anywhere near that to invest in the team.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 29, 2020, 20:11:34 pm
Andy Williams signs for Cheltenham, pleased that he has found another club.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2020, 20:48:28 pm
Players come, players go.
Likes to hoof it up top a lot, and when he played against Championship opposition in Derby, he got caught out and should have been sent off in the 1st leg.
And don't forget the 1st leg of Cheltenham when he didn't deal with the corner correctly for their 1st goal.
Call me cynical but whatever is offered we should take. As people on here have said there will be a lot of players looking for clubs, who may turn out to be better.

I'm with you on this one.
He's had a good season for us, but he struggled at Sc***horpe and I can't believe he'll hold his own in the championship.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2020, 20:49:54 pm
Andy Williams signs for Cheltenham, pleased that he has found another club.
And me, not many better finishers at this level.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on July 29, 2020, 20:56:54 pm
Williams scored something important goals for us this season, pleased he got fixed up.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 29, 2020, 21:18:40 pm
And me, not many better finishers at this level. that level

 ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: MK_Cobbler on July 29, 2020, 21:24:03 pm
I'm with you on this one.
He's had a good season for us, but he struggled at Sc***horpe and I can't believe he'll hold his own in the championship.

Exactly my thoughts.

I will be amazed if he holds his own week in week out in league 1, let alone the championship.

Take the money and run.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 29, 2020, 21:45:17 pm
I think Charlie Goode would be fine in League 1 and can still improve a lot. Many of us thought Zander Diamond might struggle in that division but he was our player of the year. Last season Goode played against League 1 Burton and they couldn't cope with him in either box. I'd be sorry to see him go but wish him well at a higher level, as long as we get a decent (undisclosed) fee.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on July 29, 2020, 21:53:21 pm
Turnbull struggled in L1 for Coventry didn't he?

Not sure (either way, we signed him off the back of it!), but he definitely struggled in L1 for Northampton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 29, 2020, 22:01:29 pm
Not a good sign already


             Gone     Gone 

                 Hoskins
     
Adams   Gone     Watson        Harriman
     
         Gone   Gone  Gone
                  Arnold

Add Marshall,Missi but Goode is still here? Possibly Oliver,perhaps Morton and Wharton. I feel that the most important player we would like back is Morton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobblertone on July 29, 2020, 22:15:13 pm
There is probably a correlation of teams being dismantled following promotion, before going on to struggle. We are probably a prime example of that. If we had the pedigree of a club likely to ride on the wave to future success weíd maybe keep a few more. However you view the PTS development saga, it doesnít breed the confidence of a club about to push on to the next level.
We got relatively close with Carr, closer with Atkins but wouldnít be surprised if we are looking down rather than up unless KC can work in his mysterious ways.
The positive is that financially we should keep our heads above water and hopefully we can hang around the third tier a bit longer than usual.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2020, 23:00:55 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on July 30, 2020, 08:35:06 am
I disagree completely - he was immense in the home game against derby and there was a collective failure for the Cheltenham goal, you donít mention how superb he was in the playoff second leg and final. He is only 23 and I agree with the club valuation of £1m, Iím far less confident that KC will get anywhere near that to invest in the team.

That's it, isn't it. Not saying KC should get the whole £1m if that's what he goes for but some of the funds would need to be reinvested back into the team, even half that amount should get us 2-3 great signings I'd have thought.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 30, 2020, 09:42:14 am
I've seen valuations on Twitter for Goode ranging from 'snap their hands off' for £500k to it will be a travesty for anything less than £3m!
What are your thoughts. Personally I think £500k is too cheap but would be happy with £750k.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 30, 2020, 10:02:53 am
I wouldn't be happy with anything less than a Christian Lee for him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 30, 2020, 10:41:23 am
The club record is still 470k for Mark Bunn right?

So as long as we comfortably smash that then I think we have to be happy with the amount. The 1 mil mark seems about right.
It's not even what the player is actually worth, it's what he's worth to us

A young, very capable CB who Captained the side to promotion when we have no other senior CB options and it's an unpredictable market..

I also think how much of that cash KC gets into his coin purse is a massive factor.
If we got 500k but it all went to KC then fair enough. If we got nearer a million and it all went on a new drive for KT and some new paint in the boxes then you can be annoyed.

Saying all this, they may not meet the valuation and Goode may give us another year? He's been interviewing and posting about the promotion as recent as last night so who knows. We need to sign some CBs regardless?

Any realistic ideas or rumours on CBs KC has in mind? (looking mainly at ntfclad here  ;D)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 30, 2020, 10:49:21 am
I assume he will be off and think everyone has benefited from the whole thing (aside from Sc***horpe!). We have had 18 months of great service, 12 of which he led us to promotion as Captain. We get a club record fee and he gets a deserved move higher up the leagues, everyone benefits. Yes I would love to keep him, but who can blame a player for going to a club of that size. Will only have positive things to say about his time here. As a loanee playing with a facial injury and a mask showed his dedication to the cause, would have been easy just to sit it out.

I dont think selling Goode is similar to the dismantling of the league 2 winning side of a few years ago. Those players were largely frozen out by Page or let go oddly ala Adams (Holmes being the exception).

The thing is now Curle has another rebuilding job to do. At least this time he dosnt have to move on as many big earners, he has a pretty clean slate and the players here are ones the majority of which i assume he wants to keep. Got to trust that he can build a side to keep us safe next season. Based on the year past, got to have confidence in him to do so. I think patience is going to be required now though as we need a LOT of players and I think in this window particularly, a lot of players will not be taken on until late on.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 30, 2020, 10:53:27 am
Wonder if Scunny included a sell on clause for Goode...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 30, 2020, 11:19:57 am
Wonder if Scunny included a sell on clause for Goode...

He was released so they couldnít


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Athena on July 30, 2020, 11:21:26 am
I'm not sure what Goode is worth in todays probably somewhat devalued market but I sincerely hope KC gets a fair share of it to assist in finding a replacement or replacements?  Must admit that I'm a little concerned that we have had no news on Oliver resigning or not and perhaps more importantly the current situation on obtaining Morton and Wharton's services for next season.  I would have thought if getting either or both of those two back on loan was going to happen it might just have been decided one way or the other by now.  Also I thought some of our windfall from the FA Cup run would be used on strengthening the squad.  We did not use much of it in the January window so presumably some of that is also left?  If not where did that go? Keeping club afloat in these difficult times I suppose would be any reason given.  Please keep safe all of you, I don't think we are 'out of the woods' as yet with this awful pandemic.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Battery Man on July 30, 2020, 11:37:11 am
I'm not sure what Goode is worth in todays probably somewhat devalued market but I sincerely hope KC gets a fair share of it to assist in finding a replacement or replacements?  Must admit that I'm a little concerned that we have had no news on Oliver resigning or not and perhaps more importantly the current situation on obtaining Morton and Wharton's services for next season.  I would have thought if getting either or both of those two back on loan was going to happen it might just have been decided one way or the other by now.  Also I thought some of our windfall from the FA Cup run would be used on strengthening the squad.  We did not use much of it in the January window so presumably some of that is also left?  If not where did that go? Keeping club afloat in these difficult times I suppose would be any reason given.  Please keep safe all of you, I don't think we are 'out of the woods' as yet with this awful pandemic.

As I understood it both Morton & Wharton may well be close to start of season before decisions are made, or at least until both of their clubs decide if they want them in the first team squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 30, 2020, 11:53:18 am
As I understood it both Morton & Wharton may well be close to start of season before decisions are made, or at least until both of their clubs decide if they want them in the first team squad.

I think West Brom going up to the Prem probably did us a favour with Morton; had they stayed in the Championship they might have kept him around as a body to put on the bench but I don't think they will in the Premier League. Personally, I think he needs to bulk up a bit before he's ready for a regular berth in a Championship side so a loan to a League 1 club would seem the best option to continue his development. There are plenty of big sides in League 1 this year and after his show stealing performances on Sky in the playoffs, I doubt there will be any shortage of interest in taking him. Still, he knows it at Sixfields, seemed to like it here, developed very well and would be pretty much guaranteed a start with us, so I think we're probably in a good position to keep him for another year. Again, West Brom's promotion probably helps out here as Premier League money means any wage contributions probably won't enter into the equation and they will be more interested in the development opportunities for him.

For Wharton, I think we might not be so lucky; he's that bit older and has proven himself over several loan spells now, so I could see Blackburn seeing him as a worthwhile cover option in their Championship squad.

I hope we hang on to both of them though!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 30, 2020, 12:20:26 pm
He was released so they couldnít

So, we didn't pay anything for him!?

https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/ (https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/)

Defender Charlie Goode has joined League Two side Northampton Town for an undisclosed fee.

The centre-back spent four years with United, making 85 appearances in all competitions and scoring six goals.

He was with the Cobblers for the final three months of last season, playing 17 times during his initial loan stint at Sixfields.

We wish Charlie well for the future and thank him for his efforts while with the Iron.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 30, 2020, 12:33:32 pm
So, we didn't pay anything for him!?

https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/ (https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/)

Defender Charlie Goode has joined League Two side Northampton Town for an undisclosed fee.

The centre-back spent four years with United, making 85 appearances in all competitions and scoring six goals.

He was with the Cobblers for the final three months of last season, playing 17 times during his initial loan stint at Sixfields.

We wish Charlie well for the future and thank him for his efforts while with the Iron.

Just take a look at the sponsors in the Goode photo. You couldn't get more Northern!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 30, 2020, 12:34:48 pm
if we sold goode and got in 3 centre halves to replace those gone - then that is good business.

if we were getting towards 1m then a striker would be top of the list - of a higher standard than morton or oliver!

it depends how he is replaced as to whether its good business or not


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 30, 2020, 12:36:00 pm
We are certainly in a strong position with Goode, 2 years still on the contract and a number of clubs after him, one of which QPR could be in with a huge windfall soon when they sell Eze.

I would push for a million


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 30, 2020, 12:47:16 pm
So, Blackburn have joined the que now, make em give us Wharton as part of the deal!  ;D

Northampton put record fee on star as four Champ clubs hover

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-northampton-record-fee-charlie-goode-middlesbrough-qpr (https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-northampton-record-fee-charlie-goode-middlesbrough-qpr)

Northampton Town want a deal worth up to £1million for captain Charlie Goode, TEAMtalk understands.

Middlesbrough, QPR, Preston and Blackburn are amongst a host of clubs to have made contact with the Cobblers.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 30, 2020, 12:50:53 pm
Add Sunderland to the list.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 30, 2020, 13:10:53 pm
Think £1m is the tipping point.

Hopefully a chunk of this can be reinvested either through fees or wages, and I think itíll need to be to give us any chance of staying up


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on July 30, 2020, 13:19:17 pm
So, Blackburn have joined the que now, make em give us Wharton as part of the deal!  ;D


The only problem with signing Wharton from Blackburn, a contracted player with a Championship club, is that we would probably end up having to pay him more than Turnbull would ever have wanted! To me this would be a rather self -defeating result.

I suspect that another loan is the only viable option for us.



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2020, 13:55:37 pm
Can we get daragh MacAnthony to  do the negotiating rather than KT that way we will get a decent fee.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 30, 2020, 14:11:36 pm
We are certainly in a strong position with Goode, 2 years still on the contract and a number of clubs after him, one of which QPR could be in with a huge windfall soon when they sell Eze.

I would push for a million

Apparently we have not received any bid at all; not even the lowest figure quoted of £478k. Add Derby to the rumours. The rumours on Team Talk etc are just that unsubstantiated rumours. Some of the Championship Clubs will not be able to meet the 750k valuation let alone £1m.
Definitely Preston and Derby; almost certainly Sunderland who are in L1 ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 30, 2020, 14:18:20 pm
So, we didn't pay anything for him!?

https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/ (https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2019/july/goode-completes-northampton-move/)

Defender Charlie Goode has joined League Two side Northampton Town for an undisclosed fee.

The centre-back spent four years with United, making 85 appearances in all competitions and scoring six goals.

He was with the Cobblers for the final three months of last season, playing 17 times during his initial loan stint at Sixfields.

We wish Charlie well for the future and thank him for his efforts while with the Iron.

My mistake! I saw a Scunny fan on Twitter saying they released him so just assumed!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 30, 2020, 14:49:10 pm
Can we get daragh MacAnthony to  do the negotiating rather than KT that way we will get a decent fee.
You mean a man who turned down several £2m+ deals for Maddison who has just left for £0 and they are still in League 1? Ok they accepted one of them from Charlton but essentially lost £2m and no further forward for it


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 30, 2020, 14:50:33 pm
With so many clubs interested surely ebay is the best way with high reserve price


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 30, 2020, 14:52:57 pm
The only problem with signing Wharton from Blackburn, a contracted player with a Championship club, is that we would probably end up having to pay him more than Turnbull would ever have wanted! To me this would be a rather self -defeating result.

I suspect that another loan is the only viable option for us.



Ideal scenario for me (if, as seems likely, we are forced to sell) would be to sell Goode to Blackburn for 750K+ and then get Wharton back on a season-long loan as part of the deal. That way we would preserve that all important sense of continuity. I'm not at all keen on the prospect of starting the season with three new centre backs (and probably a new goalkeeper).


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2020, 15:10:08 pm
To put things into perspective
Oxford are holding out for 2M for their centre half rob dickie and have already turned down bids of over 1M for him

Having watched the play offs he isnít fit to lace Goodeís boots and yet it seems we will sell him for an undisclosed bag of peanuts at the first whiff of interest.

Is it any wonder each time we go up we have zero stability and we never seem to learn from our mistakes


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 30, 2020, 15:13:40 pm
Reading between the lines of Whartonís interview earlier this week it sounds to be like heís had enough of loans (understandable when you get to 22 and youíve already had 5 loan stints) and wants yo fight for his place at Blackburn. You canít really blame him if thatís what he decides.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 30, 2020, 15:14:58 pm
To put things into perspective
Oxford are holding out for 2M for their centre half rob dickie and have already turned down bids of over 1M for him

Having watched the play offs he isnít fit to lace Goodeís boots and yet it seems we will sell him for an undisclosed bag of peanuts at the first whiff of interest.

Is it any wonder each time we go up we have zero stability and we never seem to learn from our mistakes

Based on what?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 30, 2020, 15:29:07 pm
To put things into perspective
Oxford are holding out for 2M for their centre half rob dickie and have already turned down bids of over 1M for him

Having watched the play offs he isnít fit to lace Goodeís boots and yet it seems we will sell him for an undisclosed bag of peanuts at the first whiff of interest.

Is it any wonder each time we go up we have zero stability and we never seem to learn from our mistakes


But you are comparing a CB who has excelled at L1 level compared to L2, surely you can see that? A striker that scored 20 goals at L2 Level is not going to be sold for the same price as one who scored 20 at L1 level. How many players have gone for over 1 Million from league 2? Not Many! Let alone defenders.

If we get 1 million for him than thats great business.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 30, 2020, 15:32:23 pm
Based on what?

"Past form" perhaps?

Are we all agreed now that its pretty much a given that he's gone? If there are 6 or 7 clubs rumoured to be interested i'd assume at least 1 or 2 will follow up. We're not the type of club that offers him a new double your money five year contract in order to try and keep him here.

So no Goode, Wharton or Turnbull.....not forgetting Jay Williams (who I thought was a decent prospect) also released. Some (re) building work required.....pre-season training begins next week!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 30, 2020, 15:42:01 pm
Completely agree he's gone, I thought when the season ended that we would do well to keep him and with clubs declaring interest then its almost impossible.
But the club seem, for the first time, to be playing hard ball a bit. Making clubs make an offer and not giving them a price, and seemingly not accepting the first offer.

One thing that is almost guaranteed is that it will be undisclosed. As I've posted before I'm sure its the buying clubs decision on whether to state publicly the fee


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobblerwatch on July 30, 2020, 15:46:15 pm
Some (re) building work required.....

Interesting because a sizeable majority here (including me) suggested should we nick a promotion place the current squad wasn't good enough to stay up - two good results and suddenly most of that same squad are prized assets - fickle football fans at their best


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 30, 2020, 15:52:50 pm
Interesting because a sizeable majority here (including me) suggested should we nick a promotion place the current squad wasn't good enough to stay up - two good results and suddenly most of that same squad are prized assets - fickle football fans at their best

True, and even after the first leg in the playoffs many thought the same. A lot of that stemmed from the style of play though....we'd seem occasions when they proved they were good enough to step up (Burton, both Derby games at least) but we still had the Crawleys and Scunnys to balance that out.

Whatever subtle tweaks were made for the second leg and the final worked, and we saw two very good performances from that set of players. That would have surely made people sit up and think "hang on, when we want to/are allowed to play a bit of football we look pretty decent".....

We just didn't see it consistently enough throughout our league 2 season to suggest we could survive in League 1 with the same personnel and the same tactics.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2020, 16:05:23 pm
"Past form" perhaps?

Are we all agreed now that its pretty much a given that he's gone? If there are 6 or 7 clubs rumoured to be interested i'd assume at least 1 or 2 will follow up. We're not the type of club that offers him a new double your money five year contract in order to try and keep him here.

So no Goode, Wharton or Turnbull.....not forgetting Jay Williams (who I thought was a decent prospect) also released. Some (re) building work required.....pre-season training begins next week!
Really is quite laughable

The squad* is returning to training next week and itís probable all of our centre backs and both of our play off final starting forwards will be missing.
Itís been a month now since the play offs and it seems we are hoping for the best recruitment wise rather than having any targets that we want to sign
If we have got targets then itís obvious they are signing elsewhere and we are struggling to compete at league one level which is a point I raised a couple of weeks back.
We are the Norwich city of league one , happy to make up the numbers but no ambition or finance to try to stabilise and kick on.




*squad as in the handful of players left from the play off final including two or three who are surplus to requirements




Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 30, 2020, 16:07:18 pm
Reading between the lines of Whartonís interview earlier this week it sounds to be like heís had enough of loans (understandable when you get to 22 and youíve already had 5 loan stints) and wants yo fight for his place at Blackburn. You canít really blame him if thatís what he decides.

If Blackburn really are in for Goode then it doesn't sound as if Wharton is likely to be in their long-term plans (signing another young centre back for decent money with a similar pedigree). Another option would be a part-exchange deal e.g. Wharton + 500K for Goode - which would potentially be a good bit of business.

Personally, I rate Goode very highly. An overlooked quality of his game which marks him out as a potential Championship player is his capacity to bring the ball out from defence and even to pop up on the overlap and get a cross in (in the the style of Wilder's centre backs at Sheff Utd). His relative ease on the ball and his leadership qualities is what gives him of the edge on Turnbull and Wharton (both of whom are excellent centre backs in their own right).

As a former England centre half himself, Curle has demonstrated a strong ability to develop and improve defensive players. Pierre certainly improved under him and Goode and Wharton came on leaps and bounds this year.





Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 30, 2020, 16:29:28 pm
"Past form" perhaps?

Are we all agreed now that its pretty much a given that he's gone? If there are 6 or 7 clubs rumoured to be interested i'd assume at least 1 or 2 will follow up. We're not the type of club that offers him a new double your money five year contract in order to try and keep him here.

So no Goode, Wharton or Turnbull.....not forgetting Jay Williams (who I thought was a decent prospect) also released. Some (re) building work required.....pre-season training begins next week!

Well he hasn't as yet gone; plenty of rumours from not particularly good source(s). For so many interested supposed interested parties not one offer ::) You would have thought one of the quoted parties made an unacceptable offer. If somebody had made an offer the Chron would have been all over it!

Ps : News Now does not even mention Goode


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 30, 2020, 16:30:10 pm
Agree entirely bungle but there are still haters on here who donít rate him because he occasionally engages in the dark arts.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on July 30, 2020, 16:40:40 pm
Really is quite laughable

The squad* is returning to training next week and itís probable all of our centre backs and both of our play off final starting forwards will be missing.
Itís been a month now since the play offs and it seems we are hoping for the best recruitment wise rather than having any targets that we want to sign
If we have got targets then itís obvious they are signing elsewhere and we are struggling to compete at league one level which is a point I raised a couple of weeks back.
We are the Norwich city of league one , happy to make up the numbers but no ambition or finance to try to stabilise and kick on.




*squad as in the handful of players left from the play off final including two or three who are surplus to requirements



What facts do you have to back up your statements?

Clubs have only signed the odd player, like us, because of the current situation. Also last season has still not finished in the Championship.

As previous pre-seasons fans will have to show a sign of patience and wait, as the club stated, for some of the signings to be close to the new season (whenever that is confirmed).

Trust in the recruitment department, as for once they have a successful track record!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: greek73 on July 30, 2020, 16:45:16 pm
Really is quite laughable

The squad* is returning to training next week and itís probable all of our centre backs and both of our play off final starting forwards will be missing.
Itís been a month now since the play offs and it seems we are hoping for the best recruitment wise rather than having any targets that we want to sign
If we have got targets then itís obvious they are signing elsewhere and we are struggling to compete at league one level which is a point I raised a couple of weeks back.
We are the Norwich city of league one , happy to make up the numbers but no ambition or finance to try to stabilise and kick on.

Yep.. that right, we have no targets at all even though they have clearly said we do, but obviously they are bare faced liars, our player recruitment dept are treating it like a Sunday league team, whoever turns up on the first day of training can sign. Every other team have completed there recruitment and have all there squad in place already , we are the only ones who haven't.

Clearly Morton was going to be missing from the start of pre-season as he was on lone.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2020, 16:51:28 pm
Yep.. that right, we have no targets at all even though they have clearly said we do, but obviously they are bare faced liars, our player recruitment dept are treating it like a Sunday league team, whoever turns up on the first day of training can sign. Every other team have completed there recruitment and have all there squad in place already , we are the only ones who haven't.

Clearly Morton was going to be missing from the start of pre-season as he was on lone.
+1


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 30, 2020, 16:52:09 pm
Charlie Goode is worth £1m all day long, heís young, strong, reads the game well and has a will to win.
As for Oliver, we can do a lot lot better IMHO.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on July 30, 2020, 16:57:04 pm
There is a global pandemic, Shoemaker. Put your knickers back on.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on July 30, 2020, 17:16:36 pm
Completely agree he's gone, I thought when the season ended that we would do well to keep him and with clubs declaring interest then its almost impossible.
But the club seem, for the first time, to be playing hard ball a bit. Making clubs make an offer and not giving them a price, and seemingly not accepting the first offer.

One thing that is almost guaranteed is that it will be undisclosed. As I've posted before I'm sure its the buying clubs decision on whether to state publicly the fee
Why do say the buying club makes this decision? Surely if we said we got 1m for Goode, every player we went in for IF they were under contract the selling club would be asking for an inflated transfer fee? Also if a player was out of contract their Agent would be asking for inflated wages, knowing the we'd got a few quid?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 30, 2020, 17:49:13 pm
Charlie Goode is worth £1m all day long, heís young, strong, reads the game well and has a will to win.
As for Oliver, we can do a lot lot better IMHO.

Agreed on Goode but Oliver now bit of a talisman! Still replaceable thoí.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 30, 2020, 18:02:06 pm
+1

You do realise that he was taking one...No? I thought not.  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 30, 2020, 18:28:23 pm
I think it's a win-win for us anyway. Either Goode stays for another 6 months of a year and we have a good league one Centre back, or he goes and we get a decent amount of  money, probaly between a third up to half of our yearly playing budget. Only way we lose out if he goes for under-value, I think anything over a million is acceptable really.

Looking at Kelvins comments about the budget, I think my concern would be more along the lines of whether we can get some of the surplus to requirements off our books in the environment we're currently in. Either Martin, Lines, Smith and Warburton step it up a notch (which is far from impossible if anyone remembers the turn around Langmead had), or we're going to have a chunk of our budget taken up by players who aren't up to scratch. We've got 19 players under contract, 6 of those are first or second year scholars with no significant amount of game time, and 4 of them have struggled to make an impact in the league below, so that's a lot of strengthening to happen and probably not a great amount of finances to do it.

I do wonder if we'll try the Dean Austin experiment again and try and play the youth teamers a little bit more?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2020, 18:29:28 pm
You do realise that he was taking one...No? I thought not.  8)
+1


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on July 30, 2020, 23:32:12 pm
Just saw a twitter post saying Goode to posh for 2.7million, pretty sure itís BS tho


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 30, 2020, 23:48:40 pm
Just saw a twitter post saying Goode to posh for 2.7million, pretty sure itís BS tho

Surprised that a well meaning astute supporter like yourself gives the time of day to Twitter 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 30, 2020, 23:54:51 pm
I'm not sure what Goode is worth in todays probably somewhat devalued market but I sincerely hope KC gets a fair share of it to assist in finding a replacement or replacements?  Must admit that I'm a little concerned that we have had no news on Oliver resigning or not and perhaps more importantly the current situation on obtaining Morton and Wharton's services for next season.  I would have thought if getting either or both of those two back on loan was going to happen it might just have been decided one way or the other by now.  Also I thought some of our windfall from the FA Cup run would be used on strengthening the squad.  We did not use much of it in the January window so presumably some of that is also left?  If not where did that go? Keeping club afloat in these difficult times I suppose would be any reason given.  Please keep safe all of you, I don't think we are 'out of the woods' as yet with this awful pandemic.
If the owners are 5 million in debt they have been blowing a million a season on average? Iím guessing theyíre not that keen on adding to it? Although regularly chucking a million here and there at the club doesnít seem a problem for some supporters? Unless it was their money of course, where they go beserk if the club stick an extra 10p on a cup of Bovril?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on July 31, 2020, 00:20:35 am
If the owners are 5 million in debt they have been blowing a million a season on average? Iím guessing theyíre not that keen on adding to it? Although regularly chucking a million here and there at the club doesnít seem a problem for some supporters? Unless it was their money of course, where they go beserk if the club stick an extra 10p on a cup of Bovril?

If you'd tasted the Bovril recently you'd understand. ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 31, 2020, 00:27:27 am
If the owners are 5 million in debt they have been blowing a million a season on average? Iím guessing theyíre not that keen on adding to it? Although regularly chucking a million here and there at the club doesnít seem a problem for some supporters? Unless it was their money of course, where they go beserk if the club stick an extra 10p on a cup of Bovril?
I agree that was have been unsustainable for the last few years, but it would have been in more particular around when the mysterious Chinese money appeared and disappeared, and with Van Veen, Crooks and now Turnbull gone and with money even come back to us for two of them, I imagine we're no longer hemorrhagging at the same rate any more. Probably still losing money, but at a rate that the owners can tolerate now.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on July 31, 2020, 08:16:21 am
Why do say the buying club makes this decision? Surely if we said we got 1m for Goode, every player we went in for IF they were under contract the selling club would be asking for an inflated transfer fee? Also if a player was out of contract their Agent would be asking for inflated wages, knowing the we'd got a few quid?
I agree, but P*sh chairman, and I think Acrington chairman, has said it pretty much every transfer window when asked. I think there is a general consensus that it should be banned but it doesnt just happen to us


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 31, 2020, 09:46:50 am
If transfer fees are undisclosed and media/social media reports say we got £1m for a player, but we actually only got £700k, then this could go against us when agents come around hawking their players.....they know we've got money, they just guess how much and would often think we had more than we actually got.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2020, 10:18:17 am
If the club have any sense theyíll be buying players before they sell Goode


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 31, 2020, 10:27:43 am
The club have already said that we are going to be signing players later into the window. The window is open until October so I have no doubt there will be a few incomings after the season has started.

Over half the teams in League one havnt signed anyone yet, so I am not worried at all. Whoever holds their nerve is going to pick up some very good deals.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2020, 10:29:47 am
The point I am making is you buy your players before anyone has chance to know how much youíve raked in from sales
Seems as we currently have half a team youíd hope theyíd do that before the season is under way


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on July 31, 2020, 10:57:33 am
Makes no sense.

Buy loads of players with the plan to sell Goode. Goode gets season long injury so nobody ends up buying him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 31, 2020, 11:01:57 am
Other clubs also know that all income is soon swallowed up in running the club. Particularly with no or limited crowds. Big money players want big wages, can we do that?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2020, 11:35:09 am
Makes no sense.

Buy loads of players with the plan to sell Goode. Goode gets season long injury so nobody ends up buying him.
One last time
You buy your players on Monday before anyone knows youíve got x amount coming in for Goode on Friday.

You sell Goode for x amount on Monday and then the price of your targets goes up because everyone knows youíve got cash in the bank to spend on Friday.

If Goode trips over his cat in between itís hard luck Iím not suggesting you do this during pre season training...

If Goodeís off he wonít be doing a preseason with us anyway in case he gets a knock.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2020, 12:20:34 pm
One last time
You buy your players on Monday before anyone knows youíve got x amount coming in for Goode on Friday.

You sell Goode for x amount on Monday and then the price of your targets goes up because everyone knows youíve got cash in the bank to spend on Friday.

If Goode trips over his cat in between itís hard luck Iím not suggesting you do this during pre season training...

If Goodeís off he wonít be doing a preseason with us anyway in case he gets a knock.

Hasn't stopped Peterborough from making some substantial bids then selling them on for big bucks! Sort of knocks your theory how to buy players!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 31, 2020, 12:52:10 pm
One last time
You buy your players on Monday before anyone knows youíve got x amount coming in for Goode on Friday.


Following that logic, I'm off to buy a Porsche on the assumption I'll win the lottery tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2020, 13:06:51 pm
Following that logic, I'm off to buy a Porsche on the assumption I'll win the lottery tomorrow night.
You would do if you knew you were going to win the lottery.

If there is a £1M deal that can be signed off on Friday and just needs the signature you can then buy players knowing that.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 31, 2020, 13:51:13 pm
You would do if you knew you were going to win the lottery.

If there is a £1M deal that can be signed off on Friday and just needs the signature you can then buy players knowing that.


Isn't that similar to what was done when (5Usports) were on the horizon and why we have a debit column larger than it should have been?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2020, 14:05:08 pm
Isn't that similar to what was done when (5Usports) were on the horizon and why we have a debit column larger than it should have been?
+1


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2020, 15:03:24 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 31, 2020, 19:51:49 pm
If Jadon Sancho is worth 60 million smackers then Goode must be worth at least 6 mill. Stands to reason.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 31, 2020, 20:48:19 pm
But if you sit down to reality he is not.

On another subject I see that our former midfield wizard Jack Bridge is having trials with Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on July 31, 2020, 20:52:50 pm
But if you sit down to reality he is not.

On another subject I see that our former midfield wizard Jack Bridge is having trials with Bristol Rovers.

Exactly. The world is starting to reverse on its axis.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 31, 2020, 22:47:11 pm
Would have thought big Vadaine had until today (end of the month) to sign his contract...

Can't hang around forever & I assume players will be back training from Monday...

A possible replacement for Oliver could have been Ollie Palmer who's turned down a new deal with Crawley but looks set to sign for Wimbledon.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 14:27:43 pm
Would have thought big Vadaine had until today (end of the month) to sign his contract...

Can't hang around forever & I assume players will be back training from Monday...

A possible replacement for Oliver could have been Ollie Palmer who's turned down a new deal with Crawley but looks set to sign for Wimbledon.

How about Nouble?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 01, 2020, 15:21:52 pm
How about Nouble?

Yeah, always rated him, more pace and a better goal threat than Oliver but not as good in the air.

Need a conclusion to the Oliver situation though, it's been a month since he was offered terms, so we are really just his back up option incase he can't get a better deal elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 01, 2020, 16:44:07 pm
Almost every club is a backup option if a better deal is on the table. Shame if he doesn't stay as I've liked him since Sileby, but I think he'll lose as much as we do if he leaves - Curles football certainly plays to his strengths.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 01, 2020, 17:24:29 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on August 01, 2020, 20:19:47 pm
If Jadon Sancho is worth 60 million smackers then Goode must be worth at least 6 mill. Stands to reason.
Only if Goodeís new club can expect £6 million worth of shirt sales with his name on the back


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 20:29:14 pm
Only if Goodeís new club can expect £6 million worth of shirt sales with his name on the back

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 01, 2020, 22:16:31 pm
Iíve heard that we were after a striker whose decided to stay at barrow, a striker whose chosen to stay at Luton and a striker who has chosen to sign for Wimbledon.
Also heard that weíve been turned down by two strikers on frees due to wage demands.
One championship and one league one.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 01, 2020, 23:23:50 pm
I'm pleased we're not giving it away if that's the case. It's more important the club survives than we chase unrealistic wage demands. From everything Curle has said he wants a proper wage structure. I can't help feeling there must have been massive resentment amongst the squad when we started splashing the Chinese money (that never arrived presumably). That led to a team that underperformed.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 01, 2020, 23:39:01 pm
Also heard that weíve been turned down by two strikers on frees due to wage demands.
One championship and one league one.

If those two are still under contract (which I assume to be the case as you have described them as available for transfer) they have pre Covid contracts. They'll want to sit out their contracts. There's a reason why they are available for free. We've found out something very useful - they'd prefer to wait for a better deal to leave their current clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 02, 2020, 00:00:08 am
There was an article just a few weeks ago where Thomas talked about players and agents expectations were too high currently, so not super suprised by this. What's the issue with Barrow anyway, did they make it into the league through financial doping like Fleetwood, Crawley etc, or just well run like Stevenage were?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 02, 2020, 08:49:36 am
Iíve heard that we were after a striker whose decided to stay at barrow, a striker whose chosen to stay at Luton and a striker who has chosen to sign for Wimbledon.
Also heard that weíve been turned down by two strikers on frees due to wage demands.
One championship and one league one.

With the greatest of respect the only person on here with a track record of being ITK is ntfclad - all the rest could be cobbled together using groundless twitter rumours.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2020, 10:47:15 am
With the greatest respect though, this is a rumours thread and he has heard rumours  ;D

Quigley is the Barrow player. Guessing Danny Hylton is the Luton striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 02, 2020, 12:12:52 pm
I’ve heard that we were after a striker whose decided to stay at barrow, a striker whose chosen to stay at Luton and a striker who has chosen to sign for Wimbledon.
Also heard that we’ve been turned down by two strikers on frees due to wage demands.
One championship and one league one.

Aside from trying to create and spread alarm and despondency, what are you trying to say?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2020, 12:44:25 pm
Aside from trying to create and spread alarm and despondency, what are you trying to say?
Saying we are actively looking to recruit a decent striker but seem to be being priced out of the market.
No idea of any names just passing on what I heard....
The only name I have heard Iíve forgot but it was a defender released by Lincoln , no idea if true or not but the striker info came from someone whoíd know...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 02, 2020, 13:26:24 pm
With the greatest respect though, this is a rumours thread and he has heard rumours  ;D

Quigley is the Barrow player. Guessing Danny Hylton is the Luton striker.

Both those players have signed new contracts at their respective clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2020, 13:31:15 pm
If those two are still under contract (which I assume to be the case as you have described them as available for transfer) they have pre Covid contracts. They'll want to sit out their contracts. There's a reason why they are available for free. We've found out something very useful - they'd prefer to wait for a better deal to leave their current clubs.
Both out of contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: mr3teas on August 02, 2020, 14:14:59 pm
Blackpool striker Gary Madine seen his car turning into PTS


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 02, 2020, 14:34:29 pm
Blackpool striker Gary Madine seen his car turning into PTS

That's a long way to come for a valet.......


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2020, 14:44:22 pm
Blackpool striker Gary Madine seen his car turning into PTS
Has he called the police  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 02, 2020, 14:56:27 pm
He'd still have 12 months left on his contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2020, 15:12:20 pm
Theyíve signed Jerry Yates so he might not be a starter for them.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 02, 2020, 15:15:26 pm
Blackpool striker Gary Madine seen his car turning into PTS

Hope not


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on August 02, 2020, 17:33:39 pm
Blackpool striker Gary Madine seen his car turning into PTS

Sounds very unlikely. He would cost a lot more a week than Vadaine Oliver!

Expect him to sign tomorrow then.......

Anyway, with Notts County failing to get promoted that might be one less option for Oliver.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2020, 17:52:26 pm
Hope not

'Hope' not to Nouble and Madine - so why(?) or is it just personal opinion. No problem with that! No real opinion on both for that matter.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on August 02, 2020, 18:30:05 pm
Sounds very unlikely. He would cost a lot more a week than Vadaine Oliver!

Expect him to sign tomorrow then.......

Anyway, with Notts County failing to get promoted that might be one less option for Oliver.

I wouldn't mind that lad Roberts from Notts, or Diamond from Harrogate, albeit as he's on loan from Sunderland he'll probably be playing for them next season.

Congratulations to Harrogate, they were the best side, could easily have been 4 or 5 up at half time.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on August 03, 2020, 11:27:10 am
I fear this is going to be a transfer window like no other we have ever seen. As I see it, clubs can take two basic approaches:

1.   Sign players early, banking on getting in first, perhaps taking a hit on the wages front and, maybe, assuming spectators will be allowed in to grounds quite soon to cover some of the wage costs.
2.   Play the waiting game to see if this drives the cost of players wages down and leaves bargain signings to be made. At the same time, these clubs gain an opportunity for greater clarity as to whether Covid-19 is going to mean playing behind closed doors for much longer than some, (e.g. Boris Johnson), anticipated only a couple of weeks ago.

Perhaps due to some luck, and some judgement, I think the Cobblers are taking option 2, which I think is the sensible one, given all the uncertainty. It is clear, I believe, that many others will take the same route.

The minimum aim of next season is to finish above the other smaller clubs such as Accrington, Rochdale, AFC Wimbledon and so on, whilst avoiding being one of the clubs that, perhaps inevitably, end up having a 12 point deduction.

As for players like Oliver, well good luck to him for seeing if he can get a better deal. However, if one had turned up that was so good, perhaps he would have signed up somewhere else by now.

The result of all probably means a rush of last-minute signings at the bargain basement Ė although some players may decide to give in earlier as they will not have been paid since the 30th June.

To say it will be interesting to see how things pan out is something of an understatement!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 03, 2020, 11:43:25 am
A twitter account has linked us to Krystian Pearce, Mansfield fans have praised him a lot in the past, no idea how he has done in recent times.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 03, 2020, 12:46:06 pm
Do we know when the lads are in for pre-season training ? Can't help thinking some of those not modelling the new kit will be back from holiday by then (to negotiate their part of any potential transfers).


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 03, 2020, 14:31:10 pm
Do we know when the lads are in for pre-season training ? Can't help thinking some of those not modelling the new kit will be back from holiday by then (to negotiate their part of any potential transfers).

Either Thursday or Friday this week.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 03, 2020, 17:01:38 pm
Second signing of the summer is done and dusted

Wonít give the name but itís a keeper and will be announced soonish (tomorrow/Weds)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on August 03, 2020, 17:08:17 pm
for the 1st team , the future or backup ?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 03, 2020, 17:39:57 pm
Second signing of the summer is done and dusted

Wonít give the name but itís a keeper and will be announced soonish (tomorrow/Weds)


Excellent work, again.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 03, 2020, 17:59:38 pm
Must be mark bunn


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 03, 2020, 18:06:50 pm
Must be mark bunn

Bound to be. Who else could it be?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 03, 2020, 18:12:40 pm
Bound to be. Who else could it be?  ;D

Hate to dampen the enthusiasm but itís not Bunn  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 03, 2020, 18:14:06 pm
Not saying we were ever in, but Nouble has gone Plymouth.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 03, 2020, 19:04:10 pm
Second signing of the summer is done and dusted

Wonít give the name but itís a keeper and will be announced soonish (tomorrow/Weds)


Iíll hazard a guess - Aaron Chapman?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 03, 2020, 19:05:31 pm
A twitter account has linked us to Krystian Pearce, Mansfield fans have praised him a lot in the past, no idea how he has done in recent times.

Very decent defender, Iíd be happy with that.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on August 03, 2020, 19:57:51 pm
David Cornell is a good shot stopper and out of contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on August 03, 2020, 20:18:33 pm
Manager Keith Curle made what the Nottingham Post described as a "shock decision" to place Pearce on the transfer list in May 2012, suggesting that the player had "not been able to recreate the level of performance [he] was hoping for and expecting". Curle said that Pearce would not be given a free transfer, and claimed that a £500,000 bid had been rejected during the season. He joined League Two club Barnet on a three-month loan on 14 September


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 03, 2020, 20:30:10 pm
David Cornell is a good shot stopper and out of contract.
Letís see where he ends up..........


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2020, 20:35:21 pm
Manager Keith Curle made what the Nottingham Post described as a "shock decision" to place Pearce on the transfer list in May 2012, suggesting that the player had "not been able to recreate the level of performance [he] was hoping for and expecting". Curle said that Pearce would not be given a free transfer, and claimed that a £500,000 bid had been rejected during the season. He joined League Two club Barnet on a three-month loan on 14 September

Good spot - appears to be a decent player in L1 and also did well with Mansfield for nearly 5 seasons. Seems to have experienced a fall out with
KC and also with Coughlan. Build and ability would appear to be suited to our style of play! Would have thought he was a more than adequate replacement for Turnbull. Whether KC still rates him is debatable. Played for Posh in the Championship and Huddersfield Town in L1.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 03, 2020, 20:36:37 pm
Ntfclad is the keeper any good in your opinion?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobbler123 on August 03, 2020, 20:37:04 pm
Lee Camp's just left Birmingham.. Is now a time to start dreading what's to come?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 03, 2020, 20:37:45 pm
Why is it that every time there is talk of signing a GK somebody has to speculate Mark Bunn is coming back?. He will be 36 in November and is GK coach at Cambridge. Whoever we sign I hope he will be pushing Arnold for the shirt and not a cheap bench warmer.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2020, 20:43:54 pm
Lee Camp's just left Birmingham.. Is now a time to start dreading what's to come?

Can you elaborate? Lee Camp has had plenty of experience at higher levels. If its a pun on Camp .... ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 03, 2020, 20:52:44 pm
His brothers will be happy anyway


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 03, 2020, 21:00:58 pm
Does he have any other brothers called Dopey, Grumpy, Doc  etc?

Evers: Lee Camp will be 36 this month.

Rod McDonald has joined Carlisle.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler2020 on August 03, 2020, 21:06:20 pm
His brothers will be happy anyway

Ben Alnwick perhaps?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 03, 2020, 21:13:32 pm
His brothers will be happy anyway
Given this clue il be most upset if it isnít the Nuremberg out of contract goalie Lucas Marx  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 03, 2020, 21:17:24 pm
His brothers will be happy anyway

Mr Chuckle?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on August 03, 2020, 21:21:38 pm
Given this clue il be most upset if it isnít the Nuremberg out of contract goalie Lucas Marx  ;D ;D

Karl...Darlow coming back home to play regular football and take a significant paycut?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on August 03, 2020, 21:32:52 pm
His brothers will be happy anyway

Phil or Grant ?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2020, 21:33:45 pm
Karl...Darlow coming back home to play regular football and take a significant paycut?

reasonable guess


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 03, 2020, 21:33:55 pm
Ben Alnwick is now 33 and I expect us to be looking for a younger keeper. Also can see no record of him playing last season after leaving Bolton mid season without making an appearance.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2020, 21:34:52 pm
Does he have any other brothers called Dopey, Grumpy, Doc  etc?

Evers: Lee Camp will be 36 this month.

Rod McDonald has joined Carlisle.

Not an issue 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 03, 2020, 21:42:03 pm
Johnathan Mitchell derby county ??


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 03, 2020, 21:59:30 pm
If you had 2 options at this point in time, the identity of every player the club is to sign in the summer or the identity of ntfclad and sources which would you pick?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on August 03, 2020, 22:12:35 pm
The first option.

Some of us know the identity of him and who his sources are.

On the keeper thing, any keeper with the surname Jackson?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 03, 2020, 22:13:54 pm
The first option.

Some of us know the identity of him and who his sources are.

On the keeper thing, any keeper with the surname Jackson?

John?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 03, 2020, 22:28:03 pm
Johnathan Mitchell derby county ??


Seems a good shout


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 04, 2020, 05:39:42 am
The first option.

Some of us know the identity of him and who his sources are.

On the keeper thing, any keeper with the surname Jackson?
Great, I'm really happy for you. Thats even more annoying, I wish I was in the circle of trust.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 06:56:02 am
Great, I'm really happy for you. Thats even more annoying, I wish I was in the circle of trust.

I hear things they come on here, thereís no great magic circle  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on August 04, 2020, 08:28:29 am
Grimm?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 04, 2020, 09:00:27 am
Karamazov?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 04, 2020, 10:08:47 am
top work as always ntfclad! Someone mentioned Darlow, feels very ambitious but what a signing that would be!



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 04, 2020, 10:23:55 am
Itís got to be jonathan Mitchell as Alfred and shoey have suggested - fits the bill as a backup keeper leaving Arnold in possession of the first team jersey.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 04, 2020, 11:23:20 am
top work as always ntfclad! Someone mentioned Darlow, feels very ambitious but what a signing that would be!

Has Darlow got any brothers - he was born in Northampton!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on August 04, 2020, 11:41:42 am
I really don't expect it by the way...why would Darlow take a pay cut from circa 20,000 for a back up top division to 2,000?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 04, 2020, 11:43:13 am
Ex agent on Twitter reporting that the Gk set to sign is Aaron Chapman


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 04, 2020, 11:54:33 am
I really don't expect it by the way...why would Darlow take a pay cut from circa 20,000 for a back up top division to 2,000?

Also the fact that Celtic have supposedly pulled out of trying to sign him when quoted £5m suggests it might be unlikely that he comes here! Still, like with Marriott he was born/raised in Northampton so he should come back home.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 04, 2020, 12:03:30 pm
Ex agent on Twitter reporting that the Gk set to sign is Aaron Chapman

ah yes, the famous chapman brothers


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 04, 2020, 12:18:56 pm
Whoooooooo?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 04, 2020, 12:25:12 pm
So, with the first team squad back training this Thursday, you'd think the deadline for Oliver to sign his contract would be tomorrow at the latest...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 04, 2020, 12:28:16 pm
Aaron chapman is 6ft 7in so hopefully commands his box - would that make him our tallest ever player?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 12:33:27 pm
So, with the first team squad back training this Thursday, you'd think the deadline for Oliver to sign his contract would be tomorrow at the latest...

Iím out for a beer tonight so will hopefully know more then


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: NTFC Trust on August 04, 2020, 12:38:54 pm
Has Darrow got any brothers - he was born in Northampton!
Pretty sure he is Ken Leek's grandson.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 04, 2020, 12:51:14 pm
According to "football insider" QPR are close to signing Charlie Goode For £1m.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 04, 2020, 12:58:14 pm
Does anyone have any update on what Kyle Dempsey is up to?

Got too carried away after the chat when he was released by Fleetwood and now convinced myself he is the answer haha ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 04, 2020, 13:14:03 pm
According to "football insider" QPR are close to signing Charlie Goode For £1m.
I also saw that on some twitter page, unsure of how legit the page is, but apparently they are beating Middlesbrough to his signing


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 04, 2020, 14:01:28 pm
According to "football insider" QPR are close to signing Charlie Goode For £1m undisclosed fee.
Fixed it for you  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 04, 2020, 14:25:58 pm
Pretty sure he is Ken Leek's grandson.

I meant Darlow but PC thought otherwise; Ref Ken Leek thatís well known. Ken was popular with the ladies!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on August 04, 2020, 14:31:35 pm
I meant Darlow but PC thought otherwise; Ref Ken Leek that’s well known. Ken was popular with the ladies!

Yes he has a brother,  I used to play village football with him


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 14:47:29 pm
Mum Peggy has popped the champagne


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 04, 2020, 14:51:43 pm
Mum Peggy has popped the champagne

Youíre enjoying this arenít you - Iíve gone back to thinking itís Mitchell again!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 14:52:20 pm
Youíre enjoying this arenít you - Iíve gone back to thinking itís Mitchell again!

Youíd be right!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 04, 2020, 15:08:08 pm
We now have more goalies than centre backs  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on August 04, 2020, 15:15:04 pm
We now have more goalies than centre backs  ;D

Good job the season starts in six weeks and not tomorrow


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 04, 2020, 15:16:03 pm
Youíd be right!

Thanks again ntfclad!

So, any truth in the QPR rumours as several different platforms now quoting a deal is very close...

Have firm (decent) bids actually been received? I think for 1M plus sell on it would be decent business...

As much as I want him to stay of course!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 15:17:20 pm
Thanks again ntfclad!

So, any truth in the QPR rumours as several different platforms now quoting a deal is very close...

Have firm (decent) bids actually been received? I think for 1M plus sell on it would be decent business...

As much as I want him to stay of course!

Will find out later


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 04, 2020, 15:18:45 pm
Maybe I'm missing something but not sure why this makes his brothers happy haha!

At first thought that was a bit of a meh signing. Back up goalie on loan but thinking about it more, it looks smart.

Curle clearly thinks theres something to him. Looks like he's out of contract next summer so sure if we wanted him then theres something to be done then for a permanent deal after the loans up.

He's also worked with Arnold directly before during their spells at Shrewsbury.
Maybe a similar situation to Dai and Arnold this season just gone where we have 2 viable options at GK genuinely pushing each other

Either way, thats GK sorted now, we need some centre backs lets get signing KC!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 04, 2020, 15:21:32 pm
Good job the season starts in six weeks and not tomorrow
Yes because of course they need no time to gel as a team.....
I can see us waiting until the last minute to see whatís left over and then signing a defence on Friday to play on Saturday  ::) ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: wazzacobbler on August 04, 2020, 15:47:09 pm
I wouldn't be surprised with lots of teams starting the season without being able to field a full strength bench.
The financial situation being what it is currently puts the power back in the hands of football clubs rather than players and agents.
I can see a lot of good, quality players being without a club towards the end of the transfer window and thus reduce their demands in order to get a contract somewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on August 04, 2020, 15:48:04 pm
Yes because of course they need no time to gel as a team.....
I can see us waiting until the last minute to see whatís left over and then signing a defence on Friday to play on Saturday  ::) ;D

You keep stressing over hypotheticals then, save the public moaning until nearer the start of the season!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 04, 2020, 15:50:07 pm
You keep stressing over hypotheticals then, save the public moaning until nearer the start of the season!
+1


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 15:52:33 pm
Maybe I'm missing something but not sure why this makes his brothers happy haha!

At first thought that was a bit of a meh signing. Back up goalie on loan but thinking about it more, it looks smart.

Curle clearly thinks theres something to him. Looks like he's out of contract next summer so sure if we wanted him then theres something to be done then for a permanent deal after the loans up.

He's also worked with Arnold directly before during their spells at Shrewsbury.
Maybe a similar situation to Dai and Arnold this season just gone where we have 2 viable options at GK genuinely pushing each other

Either way, thats GK sorted now, we need some centre backs lets get signing KC!


Grant and Phil Mitchell? Nothing more important than faaaaaamily


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 15:54:39 pm
Update

Charlie Goode - nothing imminent, nothing agreed, a million seems to be the ballpark to get talks started

Vadaine Oliver - club still relaxed about the prospect of him resigning, no mention of deadlines or anything


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 04, 2020, 16:20:31 pm
Update

Charlie Goode - nothing imminent, nothing agreed, a million seems to be the ballpark to get talks started

Vadaine Oliver - club still relaxed about the prospect of him resigning, no mention of deadlines or anything

Good to hear thanks again


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 04, 2020, 16:36:31 pm
Update

Charlie Goode - nothing imminent, nothing agreed, a million seems to be the ballpark to get talks started

Vadaine Oliver - club still relaxed about the prospect of him resigning, no mention of deadlines or anything

Sounds like you may have to miss your drinks/pub venue  ;D All good anti Cov 19 tho  8) 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 04, 2020, 19:12:32 pm
Not a rumour just an opinion
If I was looking to replace Oliver Iíd look at Armand grandulliet whose been released by blackpool as heís the same type of player.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 04, 2020, 19:27:44 pm
Gnanduillet


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 04, 2020, 20:26:16 pm
Not a rumour just an opinion
If I was looking to replace Oliver Iíd look at Armand grandulliet whose been released by blackpool as heís the same type of player.


Itís now on Facebook as gospel that weíre about to announce his signing  ;D

Canít see it anyway, wasnít released he ran his contract down and teams like Sheffield Wednesday having a sniff


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: wazzacobbler on August 04, 2020, 20:32:09 pm
I saw that! It is amusing to see silly season in full swing though


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 04, 2020, 22:11:09 pm
Sheffield Wednesday, Preston, Ipswich, Sunderland, Hull......just some of the clubs i've seen linked with Armand.....

Yeah, we'll announce him tomorrow!!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 04, 2020, 23:21:10 pm
Has no one picked up that one if our academy players deemed not good enough for us has signed for a championship club ?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 04, 2020, 23:23:52 pm
Has no one picked up that one if our academy players deemed not good enough for us has signed for a championship club ?
Whoís that then?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 04, 2020, 23:28:09 pm


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 04, 2020, 23:29:56 pm
Has no one picked up that one if our academy players deemed not good enough for us has signed for a championship club ?
If not signed - certainly appearing for at a development level - along with another youth rejection .
Follow those that have left the set up ...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: wazzacobbler on August 04, 2020, 23:40:16 pm
If not signed - certainly appearing for at a development level - along with another youth rejection .
Follow those that have left the set up ...

Can't you just tell us?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 04, 2020, 23:42:49 pm
Who on earth is it


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on August 04, 2020, 23:46:11 pm
Steve morrison .... knows our development  players


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 00:02:46 am
To stop all the games, It's Jay Williams playing for Cardiff's under 23's joining up with Morison.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 00:04:04 am
It's Cam McWilliams...

Very poor attitude by all accounts


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 05, 2020, 07:51:51 am
To stop all the games, It's Jay Williams playing for Cardiff's under 23's joining up with Morison.

just checked, and i dont think cardiff under 23's are in the championship!?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 05, 2020, 08:30:13 am
We don't have an U23 team, do we? I was a bit surprised that we let him go, but if he's got to the stage where he's grown enough to no longer need under 18s football, but not good enough to force his way into the first team yet, then maybe it's good for him that he got cut.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 05, 2020, 10:12:11 am
Michael Vennerholm saying Charlie Goode is close to finalising a near 1m deal, trusting ntfclad over this however!

Do we know any truth in the numerous links with Krystian Pearce..?
Some League 1 experience albeit 10 years ago... can't say I'd ever paid much attention to him before. 30 years of age too..



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 05, 2020, 10:18:48 am
Pearce is a very decent lower division centre back but someone posted that he had a falling out with KC earlier in his career so who knows. These twitter sources are a load of b**locks - you only have to look at yesterday where some twitter ITK said the signing of Aaron Chapman was imminent only for Jon Mitchell to sign within minutes. Having said that it does look like the Goode situation has legs - as ntfclad pointed out though no fees have been discussed or offered.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 05, 2020, 10:59:00 am
We had a relatively young back 3 last year so maybe it would be prudent to have some experience in there, even if just an option.

If Goode does go which looks more likely each day then we need to sign 4 CBs so I'd have him as one!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 05, 2020, 11:28:20 am
Michael Vennerholm saying Charlie Goode is close to finalising a near 1m deal, trusting ntfclad over this however!

Do we know any truth in the numerous links with Krystian Pearce..?
Some League 1 experience albeit 10 years ago... can't say I'd ever paid much attention to him before. 30 years of age too..



6 days ago this Vennerholm chap said QPR had had a bid accepted of £500k. Either heís full of **** or QPR cancelled the deal and came back with double the fee....I wonder which


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 05, 2020, 12:42:24 pm
Oh dear! Shrewsbury fan on div 2 forum says he hopes for our sakes that Mitchell is our second choice keeper.
He was there on loan from january 2019.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 13:12:12 pm
Oh dear! Shrewsbury fan on div 2 forum says he hopes for our sakes that Mitchell is our second choice keeper.
He was there on loan from january 2019.

Yet a Luton fan says he's a superb keeper!

We all remember what Pompey fans thought of Holmes...

I'll reserve any judgement until I see him play for us as on paper looks more than an adequate challenger for the number 1 jersey


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 13:37:20 pm
Yet a Luton fan says he's a superb keeper!

We all remember what Pompey fans thought of Holmes...

I'll reserve any judgement until I see him play for us as on paper looks more than an adequate challenger for the number 1 jersey

I know what you are saying but Pompey fans thought a lot of Holmes (apart from his injuries) and couldn't believe that he had been allowed to leave.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 13:37:53 pm
Yet a Luton fan says he's a superb keeper!

We all remember what Pompey fans thought of Holmes...

I'll reserve any judgement until I see him play for us as on paper looks more than an adequate challenger for the number 1 jersey

I know what you are saying but Pompey fans thought a lot of Holmes (apart from his injuries) and couldn't believe that he had been allowed to leave.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: greek73 on August 05, 2020, 13:54:49 pm
Oh dear! Shrewsbury fan on div 2 forum says he hopes for our sakes that Mitchell is our second choice keeper.
He was there on loan from january 2019.

Well that's that then, if a Shrewsbury fan says so it must be true.... i think ill wait and pass judgement when i have seen him play


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on August 05, 2020, 14:01:56 pm
That rumour about Goode is not true. West Brom are now keen.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Battery Man on August 05, 2020, 14:03:59 pm
That rumour about Goode is not true. West Brom are now keen.


If West Brom are keen maybe we can do a deal whereby we get Money and Morton on loan for the season, be worth it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 05, 2020, 14:12:12 pm
If West Brom are keen maybe we can do a deal whereby we get Money and Morton on loan for the season, be worth it.


I'd take a straight swap.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 14:13:16 pm
That rumour about Goode is not true. West Brom are now keen.


...and Preston according to the Deepdale Digest and TeamTalk.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 14:26:57 pm
That rumour about Goode is not true. West Brom are now keen.

Love this time of year... That rumour isn't true, but this rumour is!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on August 05, 2020, 14:32:49 pm
New incoming tomorrow, don't ask me who, not a clue...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 05, 2020, 14:43:33 pm
New incoming tomorrow, don't ask me who, not a clue...

Iím sure ntfclad will be starting another guess the new signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 05, 2020, 15:06:44 pm
If West Brom are keen maybe we can do a deal whereby we get Money and Morton on loan for the season, be worth it.


No way, should demand a permanent deal for Morton in part exchange


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 15:10:07 pm
I've seen Omar Beckles mentioned within the rumour stratosphere....now he'd be a decent signing imo

I'll wait for ntfclad to updated us with confirmation/clues as to who it is

I'm sure he can let us know what position  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 05, 2020, 15:17:28 pm
detemined to get a better guess this time haha


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 15:43:04 pm
That rumour about Goode is not true. West Brom are now keen.


Bizarre one to add to this, I know, but Aberdeen are keen to join the race as well according to sources here in Scotland! Questions abound over whether they can raise the cash though...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2020, 15:54:42 pm
Bizarre one to add to this, I know, but Aberdeen are keen to join the race as well according to sources here in Scotland! Questions abound over whether they can raise the cash though...

 ;D Well done stranger 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 15:57:46 pm
Oliver has rejected his new contract


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 16:00:43 pm
Oliver has rejected his new contract

Shame this but one where we can move on and say thanks to the big man for his efforts. I'm sure Curlio has a back up plan...tomorrow's signing linked to this at all do we think?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 16:03:24 pm
Queue Akinfenwa rumours  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:03:48 pm
Oliver has rejected his new contract

So much for the club being relaxed about the prospect of him signing a new deal!

Hey ho, as has been said, he moves on, did a good job for us last year, best wishes for the future.

Quickly got himself sorted though as he has signed for Gillingham.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on August 05, 2020, 16:04:06 pm
He signs for Gillingham.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: wazzacobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:04:36 pm
Oliver has rejected his new contract

He's signed for Gillingham!!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:04:49 pm
Oliver has rejected his new contract

Striker Vadaine Oliver has left Northampton Town.

The 28 year old joined the Cobblers from Morecambe last summer but has opted to move on to pastures new after scoring five goals in the club's Sky Bet League 2 promotion campaign last season.

"We thank Vadaine for his efforts and wish him well," said manager Keith Curle.

"I have loved working with him, but we will only make offers to players that we believe are fair and reasonable and if they choose to take them and want to be part of the club then that's great, but if not then we say our goodbyes and move on.

"I think we helped improve and develop Vadaine's game, as we have with a number of players, and we wish him well on his journey. Our planning for next season continues with talks with a number of targets ongoing."


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 16:08:46 pm
Steve Evans seems a good fit for him! Surprised to see him sign for another League one club but good luck to him.

Don't think this is a huge problem - get the money from Goode and rebuild. Main aim will be to stay up and I'm confident enough in Curle to start building something - his recruitment so far has been decent...would be more worried if the manager was leaving as well as Goode, Vadaine etc.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 05, 2020, 16:09:04 pm
5 goals?! we wont miss that - always have to have a goal threat if you are playing up front.

i think the club were relaxed as in if he stays good, if he goes then he is replaceable - as with everyone, its who they replace him with that counts.

if steve evans wants to play him wide, then he has an issue!!!

Manager Steve Evans added: ďHe was outstanding in the play-offs for Northampton, scoring a goal. He is a real enthusiastic front player who can play not just centrally; he is a really good asset.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 16:13:10 pm
Agreed. Based on 3 games (2 maybe) wanted him to stay but across the whole season I'm not too disappointed.
The way Curle plays he must have a long list of target men he likes!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 16:14:23 pm
It's not the goals we'll miss...it's the attitude and willingness to fight that the new signing will have to have to replicate. As I say, though, confident that Curle can find that man.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 05, 2020, 16:14:37 pm
https://www.gillinghamfootballclub.com/news/2020/august/vadaine-oliver/

I thought he did well for us. Good luck to him but let's hope not against us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 05, 2020, 16:15:41 pm
Not too bothered about Oliver leaving. He was a good focal point for long passes but there are plenty of players with a similar set of attributes available out there. We should also remember here that he only actually scored 5 league goals all season... In League Two, not League One!

Other players will be harder to replace - but virtually no one at this level has a level of contribution that could be considered  "irreplaceable", in the way perhaps Hazard was to Chelsea or how Messi is to Barcelona. I'm excited to see who we bring in!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 05, 2020, 16:16:22 pm
Fair play to vadaine
Heís got to do the best for himself as this may be his last decent contract offer.
Gillingham obviously had a bit more financial clout.

Now letís see who we get in....

Iím hoping they wonít be practicing defence against attack in training tomorrow....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on August 05, 2020, 16:18:28 pm
He is replaceable.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 05, 2020, 16:19:04 pm
Oliver did very well for us but is very replaceable. Will Harry Smith step up?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:19:25 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/other-sport/every-signing-made-northampton-towns-league-one-rivals-so-far-summer-including-some-eye-catching-deals-2933732

For Shoey to compare our ins/outs with the others to get himself into his early grave... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 05, 2020, 16:20:10 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/other-sport/every-signing-made-northampton-towns-league-one-rivals-so-far-summer-including-some-eye-catching-deals-2933732

For Shoey to compare our ins/outs with the others to get himself into his early grave... ;)

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:21:14 pm
I liked big V but let's be honest....

KC picked him up on a free when he was released by Morecambe...offered him a one year deal

He perfectly suited the way WE play & the coaching staff did a superb job in improving him as a player

I've no doubt he would have stayed had we matched Gills offer, but KC is doing the correct thing, by only offering him a contract he feels he is worth. There will be numerous other targetmen out there so it's up to our scouting team to find another or better big V.......perhaps we already have?

Anyway, thanks for your efforts V while with us & good luck at Gillingham (with Evans as manager your gonna need it!) #fatfvck  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 16:21:28 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/other-sport/every-signing-made-northampton-towns-league-one-rivals-so-far-summer-including-some-eye-catching-deals-2933732

For Shoey to compare our ins/outs with the others to get himself into his early grave... ;)
Using data to support an argument is strictly forbidden!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:23:32 pm
Using data to support an argument is strictly forbidden!

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 16:25:20 pm
He is replaceable.

Are you ITK on something, Wandering?  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 05, 2020, 16:25:36 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 05, 2020, 16:26:04 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/other-sport/every-signing-made-northampton-towns-league-one-rivals-so-far-summer-including-some-eye-catching-deals-2933732

For Shoey to compare our ins/outs with the others to get himself into his early grave... ;)
:o  :o  :o  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 05, 2020, 16:29:04 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...
Silly old cobblers.
Youíve only signed a player when itís down in writing....
What did they actually think heís been up to for the last month ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 05, 2020, 16:32:58 pm
Silly old cobblers.
Youíve only signed a player when itís down in writing....
What did they actually think heís been up to for the last month ;D


Oh Well, at least that's cheered you up!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 05, 2020, 16:34:03 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...

Can you divulge if he was offered 1 or 2 years with us?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 05, 2020, 16:34:43 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...

Which fits in with the stories about them being "relaxed" about him signing a new deal. They may have been taken by surprise with this one by the sounds of it...and therefore wouldn't necessarily have a replacement lined up.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: greek73 on August 05, 2020, 16:35:01 pm
Well it is what it is. He did well for us but its not like we have lost someone who is irreplaceable


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 05, 2020, 16:35:32 pm
Oh Well, at least that's cheered you up!
I must admit it made me chuckle  :D
Heís buggered about for a month when the others signed in a few days and it appears the club are stunned by developments.... ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 05, 2020, 16:39:50 pm
I must admit it made me chuckle  :D
Heís buggered about for a month when the others signed in a few days and it appears the club are stunned by developments.... ;D ;D


Left us in the lurch though, while now Gillingham have their marquee signing ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 05, 2020, 16:41:03 pm
Well it is what it is. He did well for us but its not like we have lost someone who is irreplaceable
Problem is can they find someone on a free transfer to play for the wages vadaine turned down?
I agree there are better quality targetman out there , thatís a given...
What isnít is our ability to actually spend some cash and bring them in...

Note to club....
Please donít put all your eggs in the Callum Morton basket and then fall over in shock when he goes elsewhere leaving us with no striking options....
Maybe try to sign some proven league one strikers and add Morton if he becomes available.
That way you wonít have your pants pulled down twice!!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 05, 2020, 16:43:36 pm
That's a real shame, I liked him - he was a clever, hard working and mobile targetman, and there aren't that many around with all those attributes.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 05, 2020, 16:50:32 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...
Did they lose the pen after Hoskins signed?!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 05, 2020, 16:52:46 pm
Problem is can they find someone on a free transfer to play for the wages vadaine turned down?
I agree there are better quality targetman out there , thatís a given...
What isnít is our ability to actually spend some cash and bring them in...

Note to club....
Please donít put all your eggs in the Callum Morton basket and then fall over in shock when he goes elsewhere leaving us with no striking options....
Maybe try to sign some proven league one strikers and add Morton if he becomes available.
That way you wonít have your pants pulled down twice!!

Why don't you email the club and ask them for a shortlist of all our targets?
Be patient and stop panicking!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 17:10:35 pm
Some of these clubs are sticking too early, the right thing to do is twist, theyíll be plenty of options out there as time goes on. Personally I was always in 2 minds about Vadaine, itís alright being a target man if youíve got someone of Mortonís caliber playing off you? However 5 goals in league 2 donít cut it in league 1 if you ainít got someone playing alongside you banging them in? Great player, if we sign Morton, as your stand alone striker he isnít anywhere near prolific enough, especially in league one? Gillingham are going to have to sign someone special to get the best out of him?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 05, 2020, 17:17:23 pm
I think Oliver would have been as asset to keep, but he's only going to be of use for you if you play a particular way, so Gillingham will either have to go to long ball football next season or not really get a lot out of him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on August 05, 2020, 17:38:37 pm
Should have offered Willo something.
Whilst I appreciate that was always unlikely, we will miss his cameo appearances and goals all the more now


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: super-si on August 05, 2020, 17:45:25 pm
Great target man, but not a great goalscorer. Surprised that he chose to leave a successful club with which he played an important role after only a year...especially as I am not aware that he was a great succes with previoius clubs. But money talks at the end of the day. Sorry to see him go, but we have Smith who is not dissimilar. With Williams also leaving and Morton an outside chance, KC knows that he needs a couple of good 'goal scorers'...plus.

If they dont want to stay...we dont need them to play!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 05, 2020, 17:48:12 pm
As with all the players who have left it is a case of waiting to see who comes in to replace them before we can judge if they are good decisions or not. It canít be denied that it isnít looking great at the moment particularly with the Goode and Morton/Wharton situations likely to drag on. Itís not great for the pride either to be turned down in favour of Gillingham and Evans!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 05, 2020, 17:57:31 pm
Can you divulge if he was offered 1 or 2 years with us?

Not a clue Iím afraid


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 05, 2020, 18:10:47 pm
Are we actually signing someone tomorrow or just a rumour?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: andycobbler on August 05, 2020, 18:23:01 pm
Left us in the lurch though, while now Gillingham have their marquee signing ;D
Strange comment, gilllingham can't have much ambition. Average striker for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 05, 2020, 18:48:48 pm
Strange comment, gilllingham can't have much ambition. Average striker for us.


I think his tongue was firmly in cheek.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 05, 2020, 19:13:08 pm
Completely agree with the thoughts above. Did well for us in him time, but in reality he is a limited player. He owes a lot to Curle also, his career was heading to non league based on his goals output, but he was played in a role that suited him down to the ground. Having him and Akinde up top shows how Gillingham are going to play.

However, 5 league 2 goals is not exactly screaming impossible to replace. Also, surprisingly in the league 2 games he only had one direct assist, which shows it was more his involvement in the build up than direct goal contributions. Someone like an Oli Hawkins perhaps as another target man could be a replacement if we are going for a similar type.

All the best Vadaine, served us well, but retaining Morton is far more important. Goalscorers win you games.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2020, 20:00:51 pm
Said elsewhere, he had a decent season but won't be good enough for League 1. Perfectly relaxed with this.

Also agree with Shoemaker. If the club actually are surprised, that is beyond naive.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 20:02:19 pm
Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...

Like Giles Coke all over again!

So, Ollie Palmer or Oliver Hawkins as his replacement? ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 05, 2020, 20:22:59 pm
I think Oliver's departure has caused far more excitement than his arrival!
If we're honest most of us thought he would be a back up option at best. Let's hope Curley can surprise us again.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 05, 2020, 20:51:27 pm
I think Oliver's departure has caused far more excitement than his arrival!
If we're honest most of us thought he would be a back up option at best. Let's hope Curley can surprise us again.
My thoughts in a nutshell.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2020, 21:46:42 pm
I must admit it made me chuckle  :D
Heís buggered about for a month when the others signed in a few days and it appears the club are stunned by developments.... ;D ;D


Do you believe everything you read on here?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 22:06:56 pm
Forget Smith, move heaven and earth to get Morton, sign a target man to play alongside Morton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Fred_NTFC on August 05, 2020, 22:08:50 pm
Ollie Hawkins would surely be a perfect replacement, same age, better goalscoring record & with League One experience already under his belt. Guess he would be on a fair chunk at Pompey though so we could be priced out, he would offer centre-back cover too however which I guess provides added value. I think Gillingham were linked to him before they announced Oliver.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2020, 23:09:59 pm
Which fits in with the stories about them being "relaxed" about him signing a new deal. They may have been taken by surprise with this one by the sounds of it...and therefore wouldn't necessarily have a replacement lined up.

Even more surprising is that Gillingham have no money(according to their Forum) and is one of the reasons why they off loaded Marshall. Perhaps they offered Oliver a 2 yr contract? All the same I find it surprising they can better our salary offer given their precarious financial situation. As is so often said on here KC moves in mysterious ways :o


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 05, 2020, 23:48:31 pm
I don't know how likely they are, but Pearce and Hawkins are definitely the names that seem to be talked about the most on twitter.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 05, 2020, 23:52:57 pm
Even more surprising is that Gillingham have no money(according to their Forum) and is one of the reasons why they off loaded Marshall. Perhaps they offered Oliver a 2 yr contract? All the same I find it surprising they can better our salary offer given their precarious financial situation. As is so often said on here KC moves in mysterious ways :o
Thatís the thing about this football finance situation Evers. Maybe they canít and shouldnít offer a better salary or terms than us, but have done it anyway? This will be going on all over the place at the minute and some will get burned, perhaps Vadaine will be one of them? So what do you do at this point, keep a reign on the finances or chase the rainbow and damn the consequences? Welcome to the crazy world of professional football financial management?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 06, 2020, 07:12:29 am
Thatís the thing about this football finance situation Evers. Maybe they canít and shouldnít offer a better salary or terms than us, but have done it anyway? This will be going on all over the place at the minute and some will get burned, perhaps Vadaine will be one of them? So what do you do at this point, keep a reign on the finances or chase the rainbow and damn the consequences? Welcome to the crazy world of professional football financial management?

And that's doubly true during the current pandemic - I'd rather we cut our cloth in a sensible fashion until things settle down. Yes, we might lose out on a few players and end up with a weaker team than we'd like, but as long as we stay within a budget we know we can afford, at least we'll live to fight another day. There's a chance next season will be more a war of attrition than a sporting contest and will be decided as much off the pitch as it will be on it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 06, 2020, 07:57:38 am
Fair play to vadaine
Heís got to do the best for himself as this may be his last decent contract offer.
Gillingham obviously had a bit more financial clout.

Now letís see who we get in....

Iím hoping they wonít be practicing defence against attack in training tomorrow....


i would assume we offered something similar to the lad from oldham - 1 year with incentives - oliver might have gone for longer for more security - which is understandable for him - easily replaceable though.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 06, 2020, 08:27:32 am
i would assume we offered something similar to the lad from oldham - 1 year with incentives - oliver might have gone for longer for more security - which is understandable for him - easily replaceable though.


Thatís why I asked ntfclad if he knew how many years we offered him - if we didnít offer him 2 years like Hoskins and Harriman then I can see why he rejected us, if we offered him 2 years like Gillingham then it is a bit worrying that we got turned down.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 06, 2020, 08:48:39 am
Thatís why I asked ntfclad if he knew how many years we offered him - if we didnít offer him 2 years like Hoskins and Harriman then I can see why he rejected us, if we offered him 2 years like Gillingham then it is a bit worrying that we got turned down.

not if we saw him as a back up option and offered him such - and his agent sold him very well to that nob at gillingham - who feels like he will be their main man!

not so much a marquee signing - but high on their list - maybe that wasnt the case with us.

maybe we are prepared to spend more on better quality and less on a head on a stick


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 06, 2020, 09:02:40 am
not if we saw him as a back up option and offered him such - and his agent sold him very well to that nob at gillingham - who feels like he will be their main man!

not so much a marquee signing - but high on their list - maybe that wasnt the case with us.

maybe we are prepared to spend more on better quality and less on a head on a stick

Youíre probably right, but if you were Oliver and you saw teammates who were also out of contract get offered 2 years and you were only offered 1 then I can see why he dithered and eventually rejected us - it doesnít look like weíll ever know.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 06, 2020, 09:29:12 am
I also think that people who are throwing the 5 league goals stat about as justification for getting rid of him are missing the point a bit. When we signed him we knew we werenít getting a prolific striker by any stretch of the imagination - itís the importance that he ended up having on the team as a whole that we will miss. As others have said though heís got to be careful as the grass isnít always greener - heís gone to play for a manager who is notorious for being unstable to put it mildly and if he is going to be played alongside Akinde then itís hard to see how it is going to be as effective as when played alongside Morton.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 09:37:09 am
KC on Radio Northamption this morning....

Confirmed couple of bids in for Goode...but we don't need to sell him (but we obviously will (and should) if we get an offer near 1 million imo)

Absolutely love the bloke but in the current climate a club like ours can't turn down that sort of offer
Good thing is we ain't just accepting the first bid ala Toney under Cardoza

Also, basically said the last two play off games put big V in the shop window & that is why he was on the radar of other clubs...
Said the Gillingham offer was a fantastic one and one that we could get nowhere near and in KC opinion above what KC values him at

Correct decision imo as KC and his staff done all the work to get big V playing the Northampton way, it's also the man management of KC that has to be applauded. I'm pretty sure big V had some off-field issues too as one game last season he didn't play as KC said his head wasn't right. Some clubs would have just binned him off but credit to KC and the staff for sticking by him during those tough times, getting him back on track and making him a better player too.

How anyone can compare what KC is doing to what page did is absolutely clueless.

I'm enjoying seeing what happens next!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 06, 2020, 09:42:52 am
To be fair, Gillingham like us have very few players under contract, so if they were willing to make him a top earner at their club and we didnt see him as a key man, it could be easy for them to blow us out the water despite being skint. All depends who we're saving our big wages for.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 10:04:09 am
I also think that people who are throwing the 5 league goals stat about as justification for getting rid of him are missing the point a bit. When we signed him we knew we weren’t getting a prolific striker by any stretch of the imagination - it’s the importance that he ended up having on the team as a whole that we will miss. As others have said though he’s got to be careful as the grass isn’t always greener - he’s gone to play for a manager who is notorious for being unstable to put it mildly and if he is going to be played alongside Akinde then it’s hard to see how it is going to be as effective as when played alongside Morton.

He was our League Two version of Olivier Giroud...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 06, 2020, 10:08:55 am
Regarding Goode - right offer, we'd be mad to stand in his way - very poor motivation for him and he's done extraordinarily well for us.

Regarding Oliver - an effective player when setting up the team to his advantage. Not the future though. Any investment in him would be for very short term gain. He get's about - Lincoln, Morecambe, Cobblers, Gillingham. Presumably the deep south west and then Scotland next.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 10:17:08 am
Regarding Goode:  He still has two years on his contract so we could wait until the end of next season when he'll also have League One experience and may be worth more (or less if he doesn't perform as well), however if the price is at or above what we were expecting that's a financial call for the club, Bird in the Hand......   
It's also a call for himself, does he jump to higher now and risk that step to far too soon (he is only just turned 25) or does he stay and consolidate where he knows, has an excellent mentor in KC and is also the team skipper? 
I still believe that he won't be a Cobbler by the end of the transfer window, although I hope that he is.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 06, 2020, 10:21:08 am
Regarding Goode:  He still has two years on his contract so we could wait until the end of next season when he'll also have League One experience and may be worth more (or less if he doesn't perform as well), however if the price is at or above what we were expecting that's a financial call for the club, Bird in the Hand......   
It's also a call for himself, does he jump to higher now and risk that step to far too soon (he is only just turned 25) or does he stay and consolidate where he knows, has an excellent mentor in KC and is also the team skipper? 
I still believe that he won't be a Cobbler by the end of the transfer window, although I hope that he is.

I'm with you on that. I'm pretty sure he's as good as gone but I'd love to see him stay another year with us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 06, 2020, 10:31:32 am
If you were offered £20k per week and a decent length contract to move or continue on your (say) £3k per week I know what I'd do especially with injury the ever present possibility.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 10:34:41 am
Now Vadaine has gone perhaps we should consider resigning the Dutch maestro Kevin Vent Spleen? He likes a L1 club and if Goode is going perhaps heíd jump at it? I know I am 4 days in to a 6 week lockdown and have been drinking heavily to numb the boredom, but is still seems like a reasonable idea? Not sure thereís enough alcohol in the house to allow me to consider Ash Taylor for Goode but Iím going To give it a go!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 06, 2020, 10:35:06 am
He was our League Two version of Olivier Giroud...

Bit Giroud scores goals, at a shockingly good rate, Oliver just did not.

I am still very happy that we didnt push the boat out on this one. Like the guy and his effort and physicality, but his football ability is limited. I would much rather see us use that money elsewhere.

Agree with others on Goode, I would be stunned if he was still here for the next season, not that anyone is to blame on that. Think its probably best for all parties.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 06, 2020, 10:53:51 am
Now Vadaine has gone perhaps we should consider resigning the Dutch maestro Kevin Vent Spleen? He likes a L1 club and if Goode is going perhaps heíd jump at it? I know I am 4 days in to a 6 week lockdown and have been drinking heavily to numb the boredom, but is still seems like a reasonable idea? Not sure thereís enough alcohol in the house to allow me to consider Ash Taylor for Goode but Iím going To give it a go!

There's a Bottle Bank all of 50 yards from my house and the vast number of bottles deposited there in the last 4 or 5 months is astonishing. The council are also collecting the bottles every few days - it used to be every few weeks.

Thank God someone's paying tax !


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 11:04:45 am
Now Vadaine has gone perhaps we should consider resigning the Dutch maestro Kevin Vent Spleen? He likes a L1 club and if Goode is going perhaps he’d jump at it? I know I am 4 days in to a 6 week lockdown and have been drinking heavily to numb the boredom, but is still seems like a reasonable idea? Not sure there’s enough alcohol in the house to allow me to consider Ash Taylor for Goode but I’m going To give it a go!

I saw Ash Taylor for Aberdeen trying to catch the Rangers player on Saturday, it appeared that he had had a good lockdown, it looked like he was running through treacle... ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 06, 2020, 11:55:51 am
I saw Ash Taylor for Aberdeen trying to catch the Rangers player on Saturday, it appeared that he had had a good lockdown, it looked like he was running through treacle... ;D
Haha me too, it seems Ash Taylorís view of his ability is somewhat more than he actually has.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 06, 2020, 12:43:56 pm
Any news on whether that potential incoming is still happening today?

I see Charlie is in training - looks like we're holding out for the right offer.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 06, 2020, 12:46:37 pm
I don't imagine that Ollie Hawkings was on a particularly big wedge at Portsmouth, before joining them he was only at Dagenham and before that Hemel Hempstead. He could prove to be a better signing than Oliver and would certainly contribute more goals. I imagine Oliver was only offered a 12 month contract and if only 2 of the 3 were going to stay I'm happy that it is Harriman and Hoskins. If Oliver had buried 1 of the 2 guilt edged chances he had in the first 15 minutes at home to Derby we could have been in the 5th round of the fa cup with another large win payment.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 06, 2020, 13:36:12 pm
There are bigger clubs than gillingham in for the Portsmouth striker.
If we couldnít match gillingham(who have a bottom 4 budget) we have no chance of signing anyone decent.

Iíve said before the inconvenient truth is our current owners do not have the finance to run us as a league one club (they hadnít last time we were in league one citing the need for extra investment , and they havenít now)

We will struggle to get league one quality players and end up back in league two.

I see no chance of anything changing under the current ownership.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 06, 2020, 13:47:13 pm
Keep up the positivity.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 06, 2020, 14:19:31 pm
There are bigger clubs than gillingham in for the Portsmouth striker.
If we couldnít match gillingham(who have a bottom 4 budget) we have no chance of signing anyone decent.

Iíve said before the inconvenient truth is our current owners do not have the finance to run us as a league one club (they hadnít last time we were in league one citing the need for extra investment , and they havenít now)

We will struggle to get league one quality players and end up back in league two.

I see no chance of anything changing under the current ownership.

Have you ever thought of working for the Samaritans?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 06, 2020, 14:36:37 pm
There are bigger clubs than gillingham in for the Portsmouth striker.
If we couldnít match gillingham(who have a bottom 4 budget) we have no chance of signing anyone decent.

Iíve said before the inconvenient truth is our current owners do not have the finance to run us as a league one club (they hadnít last time we were in league one citing the need for extra investment , and they havenít now)

We will struggle to get league one quality players and end up back in league two.

I see no chance of anything changing under the current ownership.
Ever tried to buy something second hand on ebay? You have the money in the bank but goes for more than you think its worth?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 06, 2020, 14:40:30 pm
Have you ever thought of working for the Samaritans?
.

Wow what a thought  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 06, 2020, 14:48:02 pm
I've genuinely started reading Shoey's posts in Eeyore's voice. I makes them much more entertaining.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI0E1WCLMU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI0E1WCLMU)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 06, 2020, 14:52:23 pm
There are bigger clubs than gillingham in for the Portsmouth striker.
If we couldnít match gillingham(who have a bottom 4 budget) we have no chance of signing anyone decent.

Iíve said before the inconvenient truth is our current owners do not have the finance to run us as a league one club (they hadnít last time we were in league one citing the need for extra investment , and they havenít now)

We will struggle to get league one quality players and end up back in league two.

I see no chance of anything changing under the current ownership.

The truth is we are a relatively small team in league 1 standards, taking into account the size of the club and recent transfer income Iíve heard nothing to suggest our budget is proportionately less than anyone else. I donít see a queue of philanthropists who want to throw away hundreds of thousands of pounds just to make us more competitive.

Wycombe showed last season that money isnít everything, itís about managers using their budgets wisely and maybe Oliver going to Gillingham is that for KC only time will tell, Callum Morton was on the verge of joining Torquay in the conference before KC came for him, there are good players out there.




Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on August 06, 2020, 14:58:05 pm
I've genuinely started reading Shoey's posts in Eeyore's voice. I makes them much more entertaining.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI0E1WCLMU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQI0E1WCLMU)
;D You need to reply to all from now with "poor dear"  :D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 06, 2020, 15:06:50 pm
There are bigger clubs than gillingham in for the Portsmouth striker.
If we couldnít match gillingham(who have a bottom 4 budget) we have no chance of signing anyone decent.

Iíve said before the inconvenient truth is our current owners do not have the finance to run us as a league one club (they hadnít last time we were in league one citing the need for extra investment , and they havenít now)

We will struggle to get league one quality players and end up back in league two.

I see no chance of anything changing under the current ownership.

Why is it though that we couldnt match what they offered and simply decided not to? Just for example Gillingham offered 3k a week, purely throwing out a figure, i dont imagine it to be that high! Its Curle and the clubs job to decide whether or not they deem that to be worth that wage. I would suggest not spending a larger percentage of our wage budget on a striker who scores 5 goals a season not to be a bad thing. Would you consider that to be that we cannot match a wage offer, or simply do not want to?

Its how you see it i guess.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on August 06, 2020, 15:46:40 pm
Thats much too sensible.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 06, 2020, 16:05:24 pm
I see Ronnie Jepson has linked up with Warnock again. I don't know if this has already been mentioned on here.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 06, 2020, 16:07:09 pm
Wilson carvalho of Accrington chooses to sign for Swindon  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on August 06, 2020, 16:25:33 pm
Wilson carvalho of Accrington chooses to sign for Swindon  ::)

So? hasn't got loads of experience in the football league has he? Wasn't a first team regular for Accrington. Were we trying to sign him?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 06, 2020, 16:27:42 pm
So? hasn't got loads of experience in the football league has he? Wasn't a first team regular for Accrington. Were we trying to sign him?
According to internet rumours !!! ???


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 06, 2020, 18:57:47 pm
We can strike Ollie Palmer off the list
Heís off to Wimbledon allegedly !!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 06, 2020, 19:06:29 pm
Few bids in for players, one potential Championship loanee amongst them

Didnít hear anything about a signing being announced today but who knows

Maybe something tomorrow but itís a bit up in the air, unrelated to the supposed signing mentioned on here previously


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 06, 2020, 19:22:25 pm
Few bids in for players, one potential Championship loanee amongst them

Didnít hear anything about a signing being announced today but who knows

Maybe something tomorrow but itís a bit up in the air, unrelated to the supposed signing mentioned on here previously
Cheers for the update


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 06, 2020, 20:24:16 pm
Few bids in for players, one potential Championship loanee amongst them

Didnít hear anything about a signing being announced today but who knows

Maybe something tomorrow but itís a bit up in the air, unrelated to the supposed signing mentioned on here previously
By bids do you mean contract offers, because Curles thoughts on financial prudence dont seem to mesh with idea of paying transfer fees for under contract players?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 06, 2020, 21:53:40 pm
So? hasn't got loads of experience in the football league has he? Wasn't a first team regular for Accrington. Were we trying to sign him?

According to Wiki :

Wilson Roberto Neves Bento de Carvalho (born 4 July 1993) is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays as a winger; he is without a club after leaving Accrington Stanley in June 2020.

He spent his youth with Fulham, Stevenage and Port Vale. He spent 2012 to 2019 playing for a multitude of non-league clubs, including: North Greenford United, Hemel Hempstead Town, Ilkeston, Corby Town, Canvey Island, Kettering Town, Oxford City and Stratford Town. With Corby Town he won the Southern League Premier Division title in 2014Ė15 and he lifted the Southern League Cup with Stratford Town in 2019. He was signed by Accrington Stanley in July 2019 and made his debut in the English Football League the following month for whom he made 8 1st team appearances.

Personally I think you are right in questioning the validity of de Carvalho in League 1; he was banned 5 games for spitting in a non league fixture.  As he appeared to have played for Oxford City ask Coolie to voice his opinion as he watches OC.....occasionally!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 06, 2020, 22:10:35 pm
By bids do you mean contract offers, because Curles thoughts on financial prudence dont seem to mesh with idea of paying transfer fees for under contract players?

Bids/offers yeah


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 06, 2020, 22:35:49 pm
I saw Ash Taylor for Aberdeen trying to catch the Rangers player on Saturday, it appeared that he had had a good lockdown, it looked like he was running through treacle... ;D
Thatís the holding midfielders fault for not intercepting the pass, and the full backs fault for not covering for him? Youíre as tactically useless as Keith Curle, even Ashís wife knows that!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 06, 2020, 23:02:03 pm
Thatís the holding midfielders fault for not intercepting the pass, and the full backs fault for not covering for him? Youíre as tactically useless as Keith Curle, even Ashís wife knows that!

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 07, 2020, 06:40:42 am
That’s the holding midfielders fault for not intercepting the pass, and the full backs fault for not covering for him? You’re as tactically useless as Keith Curle, even Ash’s wife knows that!

 ;D ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 07, 2020, 07:41:56 am
I see Ronnie Jepson has linked up with Warnock again. I don't know if this has already been mentioned on here.

he went there before the play off final


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 10:18:17 am
Richard Keogh signs for MK
To be fair that is a very impressive signing for them


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 07, 2020, 10:29:51 am
Few bids in for players, one potential Championship loanee amongst them

Didnít hear anything about a signing being announced today but who knows

Maybe something tomorrow but itís a bit up in the air, unrelated to the supposed signing mentioned on here previously

Thanks as always! Any guess who clues this time haha?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 07, 2020, 10:33:24 am
Richard Keogh signs for MK
To be fair that is a very impressive signing for them

Not played since Sept 2019. Serious knee injury. 33 years old.

Why do you say "very impressive"?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 07, 2020, 11:02:14 am
Not played since Sept 2019. Serious knee injury. 33 years old.

Why do you say "very impressive"?

I would call that a decent signing! 400+ Championship apps, 20 odd international caps for Ireland. Another 80 odd games in League 1

When some of our best players last year were north of 30, that sort of experience for a League 1 team is very shrewd signing. I would have had him!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 07, 2020, 11:14:04 am
According to Wiki :

Wilson Roberto Neves Bento de Carvalho (born 4 July 1993) is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays as a winger; he is without a club after leaving Accrington Stanley in June 2020.

He spent his youth with Fulham, Stevenage and Port Vale. He spent 2012 to 2019 playing for a multitude of non-league clubs, including: North Greenford United, Hemel Hempstead Town, Ilkeston, Corby Town, Canvey Island, Kettering Town, Oxford City and Stratford Town. With Corby Town he won the Southern League Premier Division title in 2014Ė15 and he lifted the Southern League Cup with Stratford Town in 2019. He was signed by Accrington Stanley in July 2019 and made his debut in the English Football League the following month for whom he made 8 1st team appearances.

Personally I think you are right in questioning the validity of de Carvalho in League 1; he was banned 5 games for spitting in a non league fixture.  As he appeared to have played for Oxford City ask Coolie to voice his opinion as he watches OC.....occasionally!
Going to be honest Evers, I don't recall this geezer ever playing for OCFC! Could be wrong of course, but either a very limited run of appearances or only for the Nomads (reserves) I would hazard!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 07, 2020, 12:06:20 pm
Not played since Sept 2019. Serious knee injury. 33 years old.

Why do you say "very impressive"?
FFS heís a full ROI international was captain of a Championship club that lost the play off final to the Premier league, thatís the sort of player you need, bags of experience and a leader.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 12:17:29 pm
FFS heís a full ROI international was captain of a Championship club that lost the play off final to the Premier league, thatís the sort of player you need, bags of experience and a leader.
We will need to find some new owners/investors in order to be able to make signings of that quality.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 07, 2020, 12:37:44 pm
We will need to find some new owners/investors in order to be able to make signings of that quality.

Are we going to get this every time a team in leagues 1 or 2 make a signing?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 12:42:16 pm
No I was just tempering the enthusiasm of anyone expecting us to compete for the finished article/quality signings which in fairness KC has stated today...
We will be shopping in Aldi despite the cup run and bonus money made last year....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 07, 2020, 12:47:35 pm
Hi shoemaker, are the elves hard at work? or have you furlouged them?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 07, 2020, 12:48:42 pm
No I was just tempering the enthusiasm of anyone expecting us to compete for the finished article/quality signings which in fairness KC has stated today...
We will be shopping in Aldi despite the cup run and bonus money made last year....


Fair enough. If I wasn't sure if I'd be getting paid for the next few months then I might be shopping in Aldi too. At least that way I'd know I'd have enough money left to put food on the table until I started to get paid again.

To quote Curle, good housekeeping....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 07, 2020, 12:52:26 pm
FFS heís a full ROI international was captain of a Championship club that lost the play off final to the Premier league, thatís the sort of player you need, bags of experience and a leader.

Having read RKís situation and ignoring the disciplinary detail ; I agree that RK is the type of player we need. He has not played since his serious knee injury. So is he a good signing, perhaps. If you take into account the MaCormack situation where with less serious injuries he still missed upto 50% of the season. So   I would give RK a miss as probably KC did!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 07, 2020, 12:54:16 pm
After listening to KCís interview this morning it sounds like weíre playing Moneyball which makes him our Billy Beane!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 07, 2020, 13:01:38 pm
Seeing that Aldi has been mentioned two observations:

Their steaks are excellent - all varieties!
My late father always used to hammer away at : Ďa fool and their money are soon parted from Ď


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 13:10:11 pm
After listening to KCís interview this morning it sounds like weíre playing Moneyball which makes him our Billy Beane!
Heíll look more like a turnip if we go straight back down  :o  ::)  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on August 07, 2020, 13:10:46 pm
Last time we spanked money on players it went really well didn't it.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on August 07, 2020, 13:54:59 pm
Wage caps now in place so should hopefully be somewhat of a leveler.
Not sure what happens if a big team with huge earners drops down thee leagues (think Sunderland and Jack Rodwell who would have taken up 50% of the allowance himself)... will it mean there will be new contract stipulations higher up the pyramid in case of relegation or is there provision for that?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 07, 2020, 13:55:32 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53696424

Salary Caps - hopefully we have more leeway to go than most.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 07, 2020, 14:02:10 pm
So, I wonder how much of MK's budget has gone on Keogh. A **** if he still has injury problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 07, 2020, 14:03:31 pm
£2.5m is quite a lot - that's the equivalent of a squad of 20 senior players (i.e. over 21 years old) earning an average of £2.4k a week (based on a 52 week year), which I wouldn't imagine too many of last year's team were on.

edit: although I think the 1.5m league 2 wage cap would have been a little more stretched last year!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 14:16:42 pm
So, I wonder how much of MK's budget has gone on Keogh. A **** if he still has injury problems.
£1300 a week because all transfers done before the announcement can be put through as £1300 when in reality they may be on much more hence clubs trying to get deals done early to get around it not that it applies to us.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 07, 2020, 14:20:47 pm
£1300 a week because all transfers done before the announcement can be put through as £1300 when in reality they may be on much more hence clubs trying to get deals done early to get around it not that it applies to us.

Surprised at this - any comments GPC?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 07, 2020, 14:23:59 pm
No I was just tempering the enthusiasm of anyone expecting us to compete for the finished article/quality signings which in fairness KC has stated today...
We will be shopping in Aldi despite the cup run and bonus money made last year....


The last big name wage player we brought in was who? Kevin Van Veen maybe? The half season he came in for he had the worst season output for goals or assists of any striker we have had in the last 5 years. Marvin Sordell, a recognisable name from his time in the championship is second worst.

Morton, Marquis and Collins are in the top 5 and yet were all loan signings, were they Aldi signings?

Can we please stop with all the unnecessary negativity, we just got promoted and the transfer window still has 2 months to go!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 07, 2020, 14:26:55 pm
£1300 a week because all transfers done before the announcement can be put through as £1300 when in reality they may be on much more hence clubs trying to get deals done early to get around it not that it applies to us.

Useful bit of info that Shoey. I did wonder how clubs like Wigan, Sunderland and Ipswich would cope. A bit of an unfair advantage but I guess it's a reasonable compromise for the short term issues that arise.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 14:29:45 pm
Also any contracts signed will be allowed to run their course in the event of relegation but once run out you would be subject to the relevant divisions salary cap.
 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 14:35:45 pm
One last thing any money gained by achieving promotion or bonus money from cup runs etc does not count towards the cap.

So theoretically this gives us an advantage if we choose to spend.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 07, 2020, 16:14:00 pm
If I read that right, does that mean any cup run income would HAVE to be spent on facilities, youth development etc rather than on player wages because it sits outside the cap? Or does it mean that if we have a good cup run out 'pot' goes beyond the 2.5 million?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 07, 2020, 16:46:26 pm
Anyone heard any info/rumours of trialists training with us? Would covid rules prevent this?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on August 07, 2020, 19:55:28 pm
The last big name wage player we brought in was who? Kevin Van Veen maybe? The half season he came in for he had the worst season output for goals or assists of any striker we have had in the last 5 years. Marvin Sordell, a recognisable name from his time in the championship is second worst.

Morton, Marquis and Collins are in the top 5 and yet were all loan signings, were they Aldi signings?

Can we please stop with all the unnecessary negativity, we just got promoted and the transfer window still has 2 months to go!
Spot on your lordship. My thoughts entirely. STOP WHINGING! You'll probably find 99% of Cobbs fans are (reasonable) optimistic about next season. We seem to have quite a few of the 1% posting on here! FFS Its bad enough when they start in the season, anyone would think we where heading for the National Lge. FFS WE GOT PROMOTED!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on August 07, 2020, 20:49:38 pm
Aldi? So long as it isn't Brierleys!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 07, 2020, 21:01:22 pm
Aldi? So long as it isn't Brierleys!
;D  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 07, 2020, 21:59:33 pm
Richard Keogh signs for MK
To be fair that is a very impressive signing for them

Impressive signing, but still out injured until at least October, possibly Christmas...bit of a punt which could work.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on August 07, 2020, 22:05:41 pm
;D  ;D  ;D

Sad ending though, Frank Brierley. He fell off the back of a lorry.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 07, 2020, 22:17:43 pm
Bit weird about where the salary cap is - unless the cap only counts for Covid. £2.5 million won't be far what we're normally spend anyway, and it does seem to disproportionately affect the bigger clubs who could have fairly afforded higher wages with bigger gate receipts. Probably should have made it scaleable based on attendances or something to make it a little fairer - though I imagine it'll be more than enough for this particular season.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 07, 2020, 22:21:19 pm
Few bids in for players, one potential Championship loanee amongst them

Didnít hear anything about a signing being announced today but who knows

Maybe something tomorrow but itís a bit up in the air, unrelated to the supposed signing mentioned on here previously

Hearing that the champ loanee is done to be announced early next week, donít know position, parent club etc 


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 07, 2020, 22:23:43 pm
Hearing that the champ loanee is done to be announced early next week, donít know position, parent club etc 

🥳👍🙏


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on August 07, 2020, 23:20:32 pm
Hopefully itís Morton back on a season long loan....  :-X


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on August 08, 2020, 00:01:25 am
Hopefully itís Morton back on a season long loan....  :-X

Pretty sure WBA are a prem team now...   ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: rodger on August 08, 2020, 01:23:50 am
Virgil Gomis


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 08, 2020, 09:07:43 am
 ;D Your joking right?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 08, 2020, 09:50:47 am
Virgil Gomis

That seems to be too obscure to be a complete guess - have you heard something?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
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Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
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Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 08, 2020, 11:36:13 am
It wouldn't surprise me, as I think Curle has made it clear in his last interview that he wants to find players who have not been able to reach what he considers their potential so he can develop them. This would be much like Oliver.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 11:49:53 am
Virgil Gomis
Has scored 1 goal in his career, for Braintree town...


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 08, 2020, 11:57:10 am
Has scored 1 goal in his career, for Braintree town...

...............one of Callum Morton's old stamping grounds.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 08, 2020, 12:00:29 pm
I think he scored a couple for Macclesfield in the FLT. As Iíve said a number of times I was massively underwhelmed when we signed Oliver and ate my words, having said that KC has got to be careful as not every ugly duckling turns into a swan and Gomis looks a very ugly duckling.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 12:03:46 pm
I think he scored a couple for Macclesfield in the FLT. As Iíve said a number of times I was massively underwhelmed when we signed Oliver and ate my words, having said that KC has got to be careful as not every ugly duckling turns into a swan and Gomis looks a very ugly duckling.
*very very ugly duckling


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 08, 2020, 12:06:31 pm
IF it's true, then Curle wouldn't be interested unless he had something about him, so like anyone who signs up he'll get at least 5 games before I'll judge him.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 08, 2020, 12:22:47 pm
The hope would be that he comes very, very cheap. He could then go on loan to a local non-league team if he doesn't prove himself.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on August 08, 2020, 13:06:08 pm
I was 'told' we have been in talks with an ex premier league winners son.

I cant find any realistic links


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 08, 2020, 13:14:56 pm
I was 'told' we have been in talks with an ex premier league winners son.

I cant find any realistic links

Andy Cole's son, Devante, perhaps? Got released from Doncaster at the end of the season.

Ex Fleetwood, Motherwell, Wigan amongst other clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 08, 2020, 13:16:40 pm
Devante Cole was released after a short stay at Doncaster.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 08, 2020, 13:23:51 pm
Looks to be a bit of a journeyman already despite only being mid twenties?

Didn't he score the winner for Fleetwood at Sixfields a few years ago?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on August 08, 2020, 13:33:27 pm
Wilder wanted to sign Devante Cole for Sheffield United a few years ago, but apparently pulled out when 500k was quoted by Fleetwood.

Still only 25 but seems to have lost his way a bit. Might be the kind of player that Curle could work with and develop in order to get his career back on track.

Cole is definitely the kind of player we need IMO: has pace and has scored goals at League 1 level before.

I think we need three strikers: Morton (hard-working poacher type - who also has a bit of pace and guile), targetman, pace merchant to either start or change games off the bench.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 08, 2020, 13:38:02 pm
Devante Cole was released after a short stay at Doncaster.
Cole is a decent player, not sure why he hasnít kicked on?
Good signing if true.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on August 08, 2020, 13:49:51 pm
Good research 👌


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 08, 2020, 14:18:56 pm
A saturday signing! Any guesses?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 14:30:21 pm
LWB Joseph Mills


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 14:31:53 pm
LWB Joseph Mills
Didnít know who he was but got 7 goals and 6 assists in half a season for FGR last year so looks very promising


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblersmad on August 08, 2020, 14:34:11 pm
A fantastic signing, impressed me in their defeat here. Any of us on here who follows the division closely will know what a key player he was for them.
Well done Mr Curle


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Boring Bar Steward on August 08, 2020, 14:35:46 pm
LWB Joseph Mills
Very good signing which should release Nicky Adams to play further forward to create even more chances.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 14:38:26 pm
Very good signing which should release Nicky Adams to play further forward to create even more chances.

Indeed


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Hallsy02 on August 08, 2020, 14:42:48 pm
Anyone know if he was out of contract or did we pay money for him?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 08, 2020, 14:44:12 pm
http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114512

In case you're interested.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 08, 2020, 14:44:25 pm
I understand Mills is celebrating signing for us with a massive mixed grill! :-) :-)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 08, 2020, 14:44:41 pm
Shows what these Twitter transfer accounts know because I've not seen his name linked anywhere!

Great signing imo. We needed some competition at WB desperately. Plenty of Championship and League 1 experience. Hadn't played below that until he tried the Aussie leagues for 2 years and came back to UK with Forest Green, was their captain and key player.
Lots of goals and assists from LWB in his 2 years at FGR. Signed on a free as well!

Like it alot KC! Few more like that please


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 08, 2020, 15:07:29 pm
Pleased with this one, very good player. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 08, 2020, 15:15:27 pm
Good signing that, was unable to pop the heads up on here. Beat some decent sides to his signature so was all kept hush hush.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 08, 2020, 15:24:04 pm
Anyone know if he was out of contract or did we pay money for him?

Refused an improved salary; then signed for us! Plymouth and Gillingham also in the picture.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 08, 2020, 15:30:40 pm
He was in one of the League two teams of the year around the time the seasom ended from the virus, as I remember trying to sign him in football manager because of that.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
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Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
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Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on August 08, 2020, 16:57:11 pm
I watch the Australian A league on BT on a regular basis and saw him play for Perth Glory many times and always rated him, as did the commentators. Has looked a good player at FGR too. Pleased with this, Well done KC.

There are some good players in the A league who would be well worth a look.

I have never known us announce a signing on a Saturday.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
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Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on August 08, 2020, 17:18:12 pm
There are some good players in the A league who would be well worth a look.


Is the legend Pedj Bojic still playing?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 08, 2020, 18:05:34 pm
Had a quick gander on the FGR forum and to a man their supporters were desperate for Joseph Mills to resign. Genuinely couldnít find a negative comment about him, which is rare?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 08, 2020, 18:12:36 pm
Had a quick gander on the FGR forum and to a man their supporters were desperate for Joseph Mills to resign. Genuinely couldnít find a negative comment about him, which is rare?

He did ;)



Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on August 08, 2020, 18:19:47 pm
Had a quick gander on the FGR forum and to a man their supporters were desperate for Joseph Mills to resign. Genuinely couldnít find a negative comment about him, which is rare?

Exactly, clubs often lose their best players to those that have been promoted. It's about time it was us that does the deed rather than the other way round.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 08, 2020, 18:44:25 pm
He did ;)


Didn't as he was out of contract, but lack of hyphen noted, apologies. >:D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 08, 2020, 18:57:44 pm
Didn't as he was out of contract, but lack of hyphen noted, apologies. >:D

Sharp as ever Melly 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on August 08, 2020, 22:31:16 pm
Is the legend Pedj Bojic still playing?

No but the legend that is Roy O'Donovan is, and has scored 49 goals in about 100 appearances. He has also been banned for 18 games for two separate incidents of violence, one being a nutting that the Krays would have been proud of.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 09, 2020, 08:39:58 am
As others have said thatís a cracking signing - looks like heís a bit of a set piece specialist too which will be more than useful - if we can get a decent big man striker (eg: Hawkins) in and pair him with Morton then weíre potentially in business.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 09, 2020, 09:51:50 am
As others have said thatís a cracking signing - looks like heís a bit of a set piece specialist too which will be more than useful - if we can get a decent big man striker (eg: Hawkins) in and pair him with Morton then weíre potentially in business.
Think we might need a couple of central defenders as well.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 09, 2020, 10:27:13 am
Delighted to get Mills in. FGR fans are pretty much unanimously praising him which is always a good sign. Experienced and a leader both good traits to bring in. He was seen largely as the best LWB last season in L2. I thought he would be going to a bigger club, fantastic signing!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 09, 2020, 10:37:56 am
Think we might need a couple of central defenders as well.

I think youíre right, itís lucky weíve got 5 weeks before the season starts.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 09, 2020, 10:45:20 am
Do wonder how this will affect Adams playtime though. Doubt we'll be playing wingers and wing-backs.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on August 09, 2020, 10:49:15 am
Do wonder how this will affect Adams playtime though. Doubt we'll be playing wingers and wing-backs.

Right wing back instead. Like when he was at Bury.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 09, 2020, 10:52:13 am
Ok, that would maybe make more sense as a replacement for Martin then, and extra points for versatility if he can cover both.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 09, 2020, 11:44:16 am
Delighted to get Mills in. FGR fans are pretty much unanimously praising him which is always a good sign. Experienced and a leader both good traits to bring in. He was seen largely as the best LWB last season in L2. I thought he would be going to a bigger club, fantastic signing!

In League One we are that bigger club. It's surprising how much of a difference that that makes especially when he's 30...  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on August 09, 2020, 13:24:46 pm
In League One we are that bigger club. It's surprising how much of a difference that that makes especially when he's 30...  ;D

Haha good point! I mean a bigger team in this division, but who can resist the lure of the mighty Teyn?!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 09, 2020, 13:57:43 pm
I noticed that Mills posted his thanks to the FGR fans and said how much he enjoyed his time there. This seems to be the usual thing to do by departing players and we have had the same.
Anderson posted his thanks for the club allowing him to come and train when he was looking for another club after his release from Mansfield. Also thankful for having been given a contract and his positive treatment from the fans.
McCormack has posted several times about how he enjoyed the season and the fantastic climax. Also how well the club had treated the players during lockdown.
Oliver not a word ??????


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on August 09, 2020, 14:04:53 pm
Does he do social media?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 09, 2020, 14:05:23 pm
In fairness Vadaine posted a farewell message on twitter.
Good luck to him


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on August 09, 2020, 14:07:23 pm
Oliver not a word ??????
::) 3 days ago...
Iíve honestly loved my time with @ntfc from the moment I entered the building! Achieving what we set out to do gaining promotion in the fashion we did was incredible Iíd like thank the manager all the staff the boys and all the fans youíve been unreal I wish you all the best💔👞


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 09, 2020, 14:36:01 pm
The last thing he did for us was auction his boots for the Harry Dunn campaign, so criticism does seem particularly unwarranted.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 09, 2020, 15:06:53 pm
Feel terrible saying it as he was great towards the end of the campaign, but longer this goes on the better I feel about it. I remember initially being a bit deflated when I heard we had offered him a contract? Decent foil for Morton and if we manage to get him back thereís maybe a justification for keeping Vadaine? However, he just doesnít score enough and we are going to need goals in this division. If Morton doesnít sign and that partnership isnít there anymore, signing Vadaine would have probably been a mistake? Ruthless maybe because of his contribution in the play offs, but I feel any griping about Vadaine is based on sentiment rather than need? I reckon KCs contract valuation was probably about right and Gillingham will end up being disappointed? Even if their not, Iím convinced we are going to end up the stronger for it?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on August 09, 2020, 15:40:30 pm
Totally agree.
I suspect he was offered a 1 year deal that reflected his status as a likely squad player. He's brilliant at what he does - winning headers. Unfortunately he's not (yet) a brilliant goal scorer, and not a natural goalscorer. I'm sure we can sign a head on a stick for what big V was offered, or less, but I hope we'll be able to get something a little bit more, as I suspect we'll be needing it. I don't personally think that Smith is a natural replacement.

I will certainly follow how he gets on this season and wish him the best of luck, which he may need with THAT manager.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 09, 2020, 16:08:47 pm
Totally agree.

I suspect he was offered a 1 year deal that reflected his status as a likely squad player.


Really! I see Oliver as far more of a first team player than Harriman who is a squad player and was offered a 2 year deal. I think the club would have seen VO as the starter with Smith as back up and offered him a 2 year deal.

My guess is Gillingham just put out a great offer, there is speculation that they were after Mills too which if true means we were able to outbid them. Different clubs are going to have different priorities and value potential signings differently, simple as.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 09, 2020, 16:20:44 pm
Put it all together, Nicky Adams being the best crosser/assists bloke in the division, 2 players with real pace running off him, his ability to dominate defenders in division 1 being a totally different proposition and a hand full of goals a season? Brutal maybe, but Gillingham might struggle to justify that contract? As I said really harsh because he was immense in the play offs and I really do wish him well. However, I just think our squad, tactics and league position was probably the right circumstances to get the best out of him? I fear he may sink like a stone next season?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on August 09, 2020, 16:30:09 pm
A very good signing imo. Looks committed and FGR  fans appear very sorry to see him go.
Still need to sign 2 central defenders and a good goalscorer + our two loanees to return for next season. Doubtful about the latter though.....


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 09, 2020, 17:08:01 pm
Really! I see Oliver as far more of a first team player than Harriman who is a squad player and was offered a 2 year deal. I think the club would have seen VO as the starter with Smith as back up and offered him a 2 year deal.

My guess is Gillingham just put out a great offer, there is speculation that they were after Mills too which if true means we were able to outbid them. Different clubs are going to have different priorities and value potential signings differently, simple as.

A brief look at their forum indicates that they have no money to spend so either your theory is right or Gillingham fans are more in the know!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 09, 2020, 17:47:55 pm
A brief look at their forum indicates that they have no money to spend so either your theory is right or Gillingham fans are more in the know!
KC said we couldnít compete with their fantastic offer. I could be completely wrong but to me that doesnít sound like us offering a 1 and them a 2 year deal, maybe us a 2 and them a 3 year deal. As I said before it just doesnít add up to me that we would only Offer Oliver a 1 year deal but Harriman a 2 year deal.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 09, 2020, 18:47:00 pm
KC said we couldnít compete with their fantastic offer. I could be completely wrong but to me that doesnít sound like us offering a 1 and them a 2 year deal, maybe us a 2 and them a 3 year deal. As I said before it just doesnít add up to me that we would only Offer Oliver a 1 year deal but Harriman a 2 year deal.

Given the current climate, I would be extremely surprised if any lower league, even smaller Championship club, would be dishing out three year contracts?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 09, 2020, 18:48:20 pm
KC said we couldnít compete with their fantastic offer. I could be completely wrong but to me that doesnít sound like us offering a 1 and them a 2 year deal, maybe us a 2 and them a 3 year deal. As I said before it just doesnít add up to me that we would only Offer Oliver a 1 year deal but Harriman a 2 year deal.

Maybe a 2 year offer;  best thing is to take a quick look at their Forum and then see how it fits in with your theory (https://gillsconnected.proboards.com/ We apparently offered a  one year deal so if Gillingham offered 2 year then to Oliver that would be 'fantastic'. I think you are off the pace on Oliver perhaps a read on their Forum might adjust your POV.  I also think Oliver made a strange decision to reject our deal , if he had a decent spell in L1 he might  earn an extension. Most on here are surprised he has gone but hardly (very) disappointed! In the play offs he was our talisman!


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 09, 2020, 19:18:39 pm
Have heard the Mills signing may have put the kibosh on the loanee coming in from the Championship early next week

Whispers that it could be a busy week at the PTS


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on August 09, 2020, 19:19:07 pm
Really! I see Oliver as far more of a first team

Yep. Don't get me wrong, I love the bloke and was one of his biggest supporters, but KC talked of value for money.

Whilst the last two games live fresh in the memory, I also recall the almost costly missed chance in the first leg, which summed up his striking credentials. Also, the fact he couldn't hold down a starting XI place in our bang average L2 team of the first half of the season.
IF we get the strikers we want and need next season, the big V is again a sub to mix things up a bit.


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on August 09, 2020, 19:41:51 pm
Feel terrible saying it as he was great towards the end of the campaign, but longer this goes on the better I feel about it. I remember initially being a bit deflated when I heard we had offered him a contract? Decent foil for Morton and if we manage to get him back thereís maybe a justification for keeping Vadaine? However, he just doesnít score enough and we are going to need goals in this division. If Morton doesnít sign and that partnership isnít there anymore, signing Vadaine would have probably been a mistake? Ruthless maybe because of his contribution in the play offs, but I feel any griping about Vadaine is based on sentiment rather than need? I reckon KCs contract valuation was probably about right and Gillingham will end up being disappointed? Even if their not, Iím convinced we are going to end up the stronger for it?

My exact thoughts.....but he is ingrained in our history now and good luck to him.....Devante Cole has all the assets but hasn't produced thus far, is Curle the man to tease out his ability?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on August 09, 2020, 19:43:02 pm
Have heard the Mills signing may have put the kibosh on the loanee coming in from the Championship early next week

Whispers that it could be a busy week at the PTS

Hopefully a few of the fringe players might be outgoing?


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 09, 2020, 20:05:39 pm
Heard that the premier league winner whose son we are supposed to be interested in is Peter Schmeichel. He was about to sign but was informed that certain posters would be underwhelmed and show the clubs lack of ambition so he is staying at Leicester.javascript:void(0);


Title: Re: Summer 2020 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2020, 20:22:09 pm
Hopefully a few of the fringe players might be outgoing?

Joe Martin surely being the first pushed out for being surplus to requirements.