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Title: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 04, 2020, 10:16:48 am Quote from a Rochdale Director:
"I attended an EFL meeting on Thursday and whilst we have been sworn to confidentiality, it appears that a new season date could be a lot sooner than we all feared, and potentially with crowds in some form coming back the same. I think in the next week we will be able to communicate something on this front." Despite his ignorance of the confidentiality aspect of the meeting, it does sound promising... ;) Those involved in the play-offs and still playing in the Championship will have a shorter pre-season to get themselves sorted out, which I would anticipate could be beneficial for us initially? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Athena on July 04, 2020, 10:45:09 am That does seem promising indeed. Thinking about next season its amazing how interested I've suddenly become in the current League One play-offs and the Championship relegation battle. Watched Fleetwood really shoot themselves in the foot last night. Wycombe did not have to play all that well to earn a healthy lead. However we all know healthy first leg leads can be overturned! One thing did pass my mind however is that I would never have thought that I could ever have anything in common with Gareth Ainsworth the Wycombe manager, but by goodness we both desperately need hair cuts.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 11:07:24 am Quote from a Rochdale Director: Might be worth getting some players signed / resigned if the season is starting soon...."I attended an EFL meeting on Thursday and whilst we have been sworn to confidentiality, it appears that a new season date could be a lot sooner than we all feared, and potentially with crowds in some form coming back the same. I think in the next week we will be able to communicate something on this front." Despite his ignorance of the confidentiality aspect of the meeting, it does sound promising... ;) Those involved in the play-offs and still playing in the Championship will have a shorter pre-season to get themselves sorted out, which I would anticipate could be beneficial for us initially? Just saying :o :) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 04, 2020, 12:00:40 pm Wouldn't it be better to ensure it's safe first? ???
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 04, 2020, 12:08:09 pm If we are going to be allowed in early doors why not start with the Football League Trophy. Lower manageable gates for distancing and gets players match fit for the new season proper.
If we are going to have distancing could we move home matches to MK Dons (capacity 30,500 - so far more room) ? Something similar to what DC's source said was suggested as if it was being considered by one of the Sky commentators this week. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 04, 2020, 12:11:21 pm Wouldn't it be better to ensure it's safe first? ??? For the young codgers it's already pretty safe. It's us older types and those with particular health issues already who are at risk (per the statistics). Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 12:12:32 pm Wouldn't it be better to ensure it's safe first? ??? Couldn’t agree more telI’m on the extremely vulnerable list and I won’t be going shopping , to the pub , to the football any time soon..... One of the things discussed was only allowing under 30’s into matches (I jest you not) the theory being they are the most unlikely group to suffer complications... No idea of the outcome though... Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 04, 2020, 12:29:55 pm Quote from a Rochdale Director: "I attended an EFL meeting on Thursday and whilst we have been sworn to confidentiality, it appears that a new season date could be a lot sooner than we all feared, and potentially with crowds in some form coming back the same. I thought the EFL represented the clubs so if they are all fearing a sooner season start they can decide not to have one. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 12:38:22 pm I thought the EFL represented the clubs so if they are all fearing a sooner season start they can decide not to have one. Maybe the fact the EFL is entertaining an early start with crowds of some description is that they know many clubs will go to the wall if they don’t?Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 04, 2020, 12:50:51 pm Couldn’t agree more tel I’m on the extremely vulnerable list and I won’t be going shopping , to the pub , to the football any time soon..... One of the things discussed was only allowing under 30’s into matches (I jest you not) the theory being they are the most unlikely group to suffer complications... No idea of the outcome though... Shoey, You're not forced to go to the match. You could watch on IFollow (which is where they are thinking for the rest of us). Opening up is about commerce and direct mental health improvements (we'd all feel better back to normality). There is no certainty of an effective vaccine but methods of managing the virus will improve with experience. We need to strike a balance. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 04, 2020, 12:55:36 pm From where I sit in the West Stand, most of my neighbours are old codgers like me. I wonder how many would go even if they were allowed. Don't think I would.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 04, 2020, 13:40:08 pm https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-fans-could-be-back-next-season-efl-eye-two-potential-start-dates-202021-2903936
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: RowN on July 04, 2020, 14:03:20 pm I wonder if away fans will be allowed to travel to games in the aim of stopping infections from being spread around the country?? If the South stand was away fan free, would that be used to spread out all the home fans??
Also, any news on ST’s?? I thought I would see if I could renew mine, and although reserved, I couldn’t buy them. I suppose club is waiting to see how the wind blows and if prices etc will have to go up etc?? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 04, 2020, 14:36:24 pm Maybe the fact the EFL is entertaining an early start with crowds of some description is that they know many clubs will go to the wall if they don’t? I don't think you understand, the EFL is the clubs, not some entity that governs them Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 04, 2020, 14:37:47 pm https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-fans-could-be-back-next-season-efl-eye-two-potential-start-dates-202021-2903936 Thanks DC. So why not get those normally poorly attended anyway Football League Trophy games out of the way first ? I agree with RowN regarding away fans - probably shouldn't travel (though we do have those Air Bridges now don't we). Cordwainer2 - providing there is the required social distancing I'd attend as I do now (not a season ticket holder at present) and continue to hide away in the East Stand. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 04, 2020, 15:19:03 pm Not sure how social distancing would work. How many seats occupied? How do you get to them? Toilets? Too many imponderables for me. I can't take the risk.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 04, 2020, 16:12:01 pm Not sure how social distancing would work. How many seats occupied? How do you get to them? Toilets? Too many imponderables for me. I can't take the risk. and how would everybody exit the stadium as well? Row by row? Can't see that happening with some of the clowns out there that think things don't apply to themAnd what about walking up the steps outside as well? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 04, 2020, 16:59:56 pm and how would everybody exit the stadium as well? Row by row? Can't see that happening with some of the clowns out there that think things don't apply to them And what about walking up the steps outside as well? I attend virtually all the poorly attended cheap as chips Football League Trophy games with only the West and South Stands open. There shouldn't be much of an issue if they restrict crowds to say 2,000 at Sixfields (or about 8,000 at MK Dons -see my point earlier) with all stands open. Just remind fans to leave in an orderly fashion at the end. We could even open up the North Stand (say) for the young only. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 04, 2020, 17:53:32 pm and how would everybody exit the stadium as well? Row by row? Can't see that happening with some of the clowns out there that think things don't apply to them And what about walking up the steps outside as well? People will use common sense, we are not all clowns. Outdoor events are far less likely to transmit the virus so it shouldn't take too much organisation to make it safe for those content to take the risk. Far less dangerous than indoor places such as shopping centres and pubs. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: tcobb on July 04, 2020, 18:49:22 pm Im surprised League one is going to happen next season. Didnt "Shoemaker " state that all league one/two teams were to be mothballed until a vaccine was found ? Mind you he also stated that Season Ticket holders would be able to attend the play off finals ;D
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 04, 2020, 19:10:59 pm Saw some of the Chairmans interview on Facebook, he was saying that if grounds were opened to fans with reduced capacities it would be Season Ticket holders who'd get priority.
No problem with that in principle, but the difficulty would be that you'd probably have to move people around to maintain the distancing....ie the seats which you've got your s/t for might not necessarily be the ones you get for the first few games. Would sort of defeat the object if the West Stand Upper was full of people along with the middle of the North, whilst the Lower West, East and South were empty......and then if you're a family with West Stand tickets can you all sit together or will you be spread out too?! Logistically a bit of a challenge. My hope is that by September the number of cases in the UK is so small (and its only 1 in 2300 now) clubs like ours wouldn't be affected too much, 7000 inside Sixfields is less of a "risk" than 30000 inside the Stadium of Light purely on the amount of carriers who may be present? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 19:13:15 pm People will use common sense, we are not all clowns. Outdoor events are far less likely to transmit the virus so it shouldn't take too much organisation to make it safe for those content to take the risk. Far less dangerous than indoor places such as shopping centres and pubs. s*** loads of people caught coronavirus at the liverpool athletico madrid gameThere was a very large local spike two weeks later that suggests sitting inside a football stadium is far from safe. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: tcobb on July 04, 2020, 19:26:44 pm Not quite proven fact yet Shoey, although there was a spike of cases in Liverpool, it was on 12th April nearly a month after the game, as a balanced view, Birmingham also saw a spike in infections on 12th April. Maybe you should really start checking your facts out on all subjects before you start posting ? ;D
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 19:57:18 pm Fact there was a large spike in cases after the liverpool
game and that is generally accepted. Fact there was a large spike in the weeks after the Cheltenham festival in the general area GL52 postcode. If you have large social gatherings then you are at much more risk if you attend. That’s not rocket science is it?? Makes not a jot of difference to me as I’m unable to attend anyway but it’s entirely up to those who may be able to attend whether they do. The fact is it’s all to do with consumer confidence and while there is a killer virus circulating amongst the general public I would hazard a guess many elderly/vulnerable or others that live with people in those groups will be giving gatherings a swerve. Others who feel it is safe and won’t effect them will throw caution to the wind and attend (dependant on age restraints etc if they come into force) I’m all for season ticket holders only being allowed if it’s safe but I have my doubts. I’d imagine the option to watch the games on ifollow will be rolled out for those in high risk groups such as myself. I personally think things will get a lot worse in winter and games will be BCD anyway and here’s something .... When people are at pubs / shopping /events etc it’ll be fun when people will be inevitably coughing and sneezing :o :o You won’t be thinking that chaps got a cold and that should make for exciting times ahead :-\ ;) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: tcobb on July 04, 2020, 20:19:17 pm Shame Shoemaker that you never post facts, never mind one day you might just post something that turns out to be true . ;D
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 04, 2020, 20:25:07 pm 30% capacity from sept 4th, no away fans.
Get your season tickets now! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3063 on July 04, 2020, 21:03:46 pm 30% capacity from sept 4th, no away fans. Get your season tickets now! Pure speculation. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 04, 2020, 21:32:59 pm Pure speculation. This was suggested to me by a club employee on the afternoon of the second leg of the playoff semi.I agree, pure speculation! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2020, 21:33:36 pm Shame Shoemaker that you never post facts, never mind one day you might just post something that turns out to be true . ;D Try not to get yourself too upset over everything.You’ll do yourself a mischief :D :D :D That said I hope you and all other cobblers fans stay safe and healthy during these times. Let’s stick together :) UTC Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 04, 2020, 22:07:41 pm and how would everybody exit the stadium as well? Row by row? Can't see that happening with some of the clowns out there that think things don't apply to them And what about walking up the steps outside as well? Where there this a will there is a way! a) Every fan temp is taken prior to game. b) As many of the town's people are tested for Cov-19 symptons c) Make it an offence if you go to a game with the symptoms d) Yes, file out of the ground by section, similar arrangement for toilet use. e) No drinking prior to games but water is ok. f) Wear masks most of the time. g) Limit capacity to assist 1m rule. h) Will need some good no nonsense stewards i) Everybody goes must detail their contact info ; for track and trace purposes. j) Outdoor pursuits less likely to spread the virus k) Those people who are part of the 2.2m high risk group should be excluded. l) Find a vaccine!! Plenty there to argue, dismiss or even add to Good luck! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 04, 2020, 22:12:16 pm Saw some of the Chairmans interview on Facebook, he was saying that if grounds were opened to fans with reduced capacities it would be Season Ticket holders who'd get priority. No problem with that in principle, but the difficulty would be that you'd probably have to move people around to maintain the distancing....ie the seats which you've got your s/t for might not necessarily be the ones you get for the first few games. Would sort of defeat the object if the West Stand Upper was full of people along with the middle of the North, whilst the Lower West, East and South were empty......and then if you're a family with West Stand tickets can you all sit together or will you be spread out too?! Logistically a bit of a challenge. My hope is that by September the number of cases in the UK is so small (and its only 1 in 2300 now) clubs like ours wouldn't be affected too much, 7000 inside Sixfields is less of a "risk" than 30000 inside the Stadium of Light purely on the amount of carriers who may be present? As far as I am aware Northampton is about 1 in 2000 - so in theory the risk is small. If we can take some reasonable precautions it might just work with track and trace. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 04, 2020, 23:17:42 pm Wouldn't it be better to ensure it's safe first? ??? No one else seems worried about it.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 04, 2020, 23:24:25 pm l) Find a vaccine!! Plenty there to argue, dismiss or even add to Good luck! [/quote] I was having an iron infusion at The Churchill last Weds. the nurse told me that they're still quite confident the vaccine they're developing there will work, and be available shortly. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: ntfclad on July 05, 2020, 07:35:16 am Shouting is also a big issue for football crowds. Studies have shown droplets can be propelled between 6-10 feet.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 05, 2020, 07:47:45 am Shouting is also a big issue for football crowds. Studies have shown droplets can be propelled between 6-10 feet. And singing. Sixfields, like other places of worship, would need to prohibit singing.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 05, 2020, 09:56:59 am And singing. Sixfields, like other places of worship, would need to prohibit singing. No singing, shouting or chanting. Those Oxford Nurses always approachable and very friendly >:D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3063 on July 05, 2020, 11:45:37 am This was suggested to me by a club employee on the afternoon of the second leg of the playoff semi. I agree, pure speculation! The two dates being mentioned are 29th August and 12th September. The date you mention is an international weekend. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 05, 2020, 11:54:23 am Where there this a will there is a way! Genuine question, are you simple minded?a) Every fan temp is taken prior to game. b) As many of the town's people are tested for Cov-19 symptons c) Make it an offence if you go to a game with the symptoms d) Yes, file out of the ground by section, similar arrangement for toilet use. e) No drinking prior to games but water is ok. f) Wear masks most of the time. g) Limit capacity to assist 1m rule. h) Will need some good no nonsense stewards i) Everybody goes must detail their contact info ; for track and trace purposes. j) Outdoor pursuits less likely to spread the virus k) Those people who are part of the 2.2m high risk group should be excluded. l) Find a vaccine!! Plenty there to argue, dismiss or even add to Good luck! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 05, 2020, 11:59:54 am **** loads of people caught coronavirus at the liverpool athletico madrid game There was a very large local spike two weeks later that suggests sitting inside a football stadium is far from safe. :D Crikey a scientist and doctor or soothsayer! :o Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 05, 2020, 13:47:36 pm The two dates being mentioned are 29th August and 12th September. The date you mention is an international weekend. I wasn't being sarcastic, I agree it would almost certainly have been unfounded speculation their part, but I mentioned it because the person is an employee on the non playing side. Regards international weekends, I had no idea, but would leagues one and two have to defer to that if the season is underway by then? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3063 on July 05, 2020, 14:22:54 pm I wasn't being sarcastic, I agree it would almost certainly have been unfounded speculation their part, but I mentioned it because the person is an employee on the non playing side. Regards international weekends, I had no idea, but would leagues one and two have to defer to that if the season is underway by then? Yes. They want to avoid starting the new season on that weekend due to possible international call ups. Some league one clubs particularly have to cancel games on these weekends. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Gonzales on July 05, 2020, 14:59:00 pm The club have said via the website that ST info will be available within the next few days which says to me that a start date and whether people will be able to attend etc should be known by then... Not sure otherwise how they’d be able to sell tickets without knowing if people could in fact actually enter the ground.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 05, 2020, 17:01:07 pm Genuine question, are you simple minded? Genuine question, are you a worrier? Yes am single minded! You haven't changed in 6 years the same happy go lucky astute commentator. ::) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Rich on July 06, 2020, 16:50:20 pm Any indication or speculation on when the fixtures will be out? Early August wouldn't surprise me
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: andycobbler on July 06, 2020, 18:28:48 pm Watching the league 1 play offs. Piss poor. Based on that we could have a good season back in league 1
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 06, 2020, 19:32:25 pm Watching the league 1 play offs. **** poor. Based on that we could have a good season back in league 1 Was a poor game and with our aggressive approach we'd have seen both those off.....definitely Pompey to look forward to again next season. Unless something strange happens a couple of trips to Blackpool are back on the cards too. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 06, 2020, 22:53:21 pm Any indication or speculation on when the fixtures will be out? Early August wouldn't surprise me They'll at least wait until the end of this season, I would have thought... ;) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 06, 2020, 22:55:57 pm Pompey staying down at least gives me a local game, if we are able to attend by then... 8)
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2995 on July 07, 2020, 07:18:36 am So one of Oxford or Wycombe in the championship next season .
Both clubs have competed at our level for many a year and not been as good as us quite often . It just shows we could get there with the wind in the right direction . Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Fred_NTFC on July 07, 2020, 08:52:15 am Especially as Wycombe are perhaps the closest thing to our style of play right now.
Just shows that League One teams can struggle against it too, can't see them lasting long in the championship though. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2995 on July 08, 2020, 18:51:16 pm I hope Wigan don’t go down .
They will start afresh with no debt and the same squad that competes well in the championship . Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 08, 2020, 20:42:29 pm I went to Sixfields to collect my "cut out" today. In one entrance, 2m signs everywhere and barriers, staff in masks, then out another door. I just do not see how they could make this work with a couple of thousand people in there. Having said all that, still getting a Season Ticket !
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 08, 2020, 21:14:47 pm I hope Wigan don’t go down . If they end up in the relegation zone at the end of the current Championship season, the 12pt deduction is carried over to their League One season!They will start afresh with no debt and the same squad that competes well in the championship . They've also been shafted by Chinese c***s (yes I said it!) who have clearly no interest in any lower Championship, never mind League One club and placed them in administration...blaming Covid-19. Tosh, they took over during the lockdown...as is their claims of putting £40 million into Wigan Athletic it appears! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 08, 2020, 21:32:33 pm I went to Sixfields to collect my "cut out" today. In one entrance, 2m signs everywhere and barriers, staff in masks, then out another door. I just do not see how they could make this work with a couple of thousand people in there. Having said all that, still getting a Season Ticket ! Not a worrier then :) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 08, 2020, 22:21:25 pm If they end up in the relegation zone at the end of the current Championship season, the 12pt deduction is carried over to their League One season! They've also been shafted by Chinese c***s (yes I said it!) who have clearly no interest in any lower Championship, never mind League One club and placed them in administration...blaming Covid-19. Tosh, they took over during the lockdown...as is their claims of putting £40 million into Wigan Athletic it appears! some quite staggering figures here..... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/01/wigan-go-into-administration-four-weeks-after-hong-kong-takeover £17.5m wage bill? Nearly 25 million invested in the club in just 18 months.....yet still reported a £9m loss. This is Wigan Athletic we are talking about.....shows the truly astronomical figures needed just to compete higher up the leagues. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 08, 2020, 23:27:38 pm The Brexit argument quoted in that article seems extraordinarily weak. Any impact to date is marginal at the most. The new owners made their original investment post the vote. Wigan have over achieved given their actual support. That £17.5 million wage bill is the decisive factor.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2995 on July 09, 2020, 06:02:28 am If they end up in the relegation zone at the end of the current Championship season, the 12pt deduction is carried over to their League One season! Maybe , but even with a 12 point reduction they probably wouldn’t go down and will be in a very strong position coming out of COVID with no debt .They've also been shafted by Chinese c***s (yes I said it!) who have clearly no interest in any lower Championship, never mind League One club and placed them in administration...blaming Covid-19. Tosh, they took over during the lockdown...as is their claims of putting £40 million into Wigan Athletic it appears! The administration was pre meditated . Any team doing that should be relegated two divisions . Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 09, 2020, 07:34:37 am Maybe , but even with a 12 point reduction they probably wouldn’t go down and will be in a very strong position coming out of COVID with no debt . The administration was pre meditated . Any team doing that should be relegated two divisions . I think you are right on this and the EFL should take a very close look at it, also it shows how good their fit and proper persons check is. The EFL and the FA are not fit to run football. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 09, 2020, 08:07:31 am I'm sure that I heard yesterday that the person who bought Wigan paid £41m for them and then within weeks had put them into administration? Apparently he had 'sold' the club to himself under a different name/nomenclature.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Winslow Lee on July 09, 2020, 09:02:57 am The administration was pre meditated . Any team doing that should be relegated two divisions . Fully agree that there must be a much tougher stance on clubs that go into administration. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 09, 2020, 09:30:59 am I'm sure that I heard yesterday that the person who bought Wigan paid £41m for them and then within weeks had put them into administration? Apparently he had 'sold' the club to himself under a different name/nomenclature. Sounds like a pre-pack admin. I've twice been through them with different companies I've worked for. Both times I've been lucky and come out the other side with the NewCo entity, but it's a chance to offload debt nd contracts and royally stitch up any suppliers, landlords and employees that you no longer want by leaving them with the company you close down. It's immoral, really, but I guess if it's a case of everyone getting nothing and losing their jobs or some people getting something they are owed and some of them keeping their jobs, that could be seen as the lesser of two evils. Just. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 09, 2020, 09:59:03 am Sounds like a pre-pack admin. I've twice been through them with different companies I've worked for. Both times I've been lucky and come out the other side with the NewCo entity, but it's a chance to offload debt nd contracts and royally stitch up any suppliers, landlords and employees that you no longer want by leaving them with the company you close down. It's immoral, really, but I guess if it's a case of everyone getting nothing and losing their jobs or some people getting something they are owed and some of them keeping their jobs, that could be seen as the lesser of two evils. Just. Is there nothing illegal about doing it? Is it just the immorality of it that prevents many others from doing the same? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 09, 2020, 10:43:23 am Opening up a can of worms, which probably is more at home with Vintage, Beds et-al on the Development thread, but this Wigan fiasco, as Rick Parry has suggested, gives credence to community based ownership!
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 09, 2020, 11:24:29 am Opening up a can of worms, which probably is more at home with Vintage, Beds et-al on the Development thread, but this Wigan fiasco, as Rick Parry has suggested, gives credence to community based ownership! And that's where we now need to get back on topic and move the talk relating to the why's and wherefores of Wigan and their demise across to the ReDev thread... ;) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 09, 2020, 11:25:12 am Is there nothing illegal about doing it? Is it just the immorality of it that prevents many others from doing the same? Fraudulent trading is when a company carries on business operations with the intent of purposefully deceiving and defrauding its creditors. This is a criminal offence and is punishable by steep fines/debt liabilities depending on the severity of the fraud and potentially improvement. In practice those persons/entities affected often prioritize trading/working profitably in future rather than pursuing old debts. Trading whilst insolvent is a serious issue and if the company fails the directors can face serious repercussions. This can result in them incurring personal liability for company debts and possibly being disqualified from being a director for up to 15 years. Ever wondered why the bloke running a business in reality isn't a director but his wife/associates are ? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 09, 2020, 11:31:44 am Is there nothing illegal about doing it? Is it just the immorality of it that prevents many others from doing the same? Nope, it's all above board, legally at least. Look at JD Sports and Go Outdoors the other week; they already owned the brand, put it into administration and bought it back from the administrator at a fraction of its worth, just free of any of those pesky contracts and leases that they wanted to get out of. £430m in the bank when you last stated your accounts? Don't worry about that, if you can't afford your rent, you can't afford your rent - just go for a pre-pack! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53152566 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53152566) https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/jd-sports-boss-peter-cowgill-warns-of-more-administrations-post-covid/ (https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/jd-sports-boss-peter-cowgill-warns-of-more-administrations-post-covid/) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 09, 2020, 14:29:23 pm What prevents the EFL, or whoever the governing body is, from refusing to recognise the post admin version of the club and insist it starts again from way down the pyramid?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 09, 2020, 14:30:50 pm Isnt that what happened to Rangers?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 09, 2020, 14:47:58 pm What prevents the EFL, or whoever the governing body is, from refusing to recognise the post admin version of the club and insist it starts again from way down the pyramid? That's a good question. The NewCo entity in a pre-pack generally buys the assets they want from the OldCo, so in this case I assume one of the assets is effectively the "golden ticket" of a place in the league. Should they allow it's transfer in these circumstances? Well, it's not really a very sporting way to behave, so ethically and morally I'd say no. However, that's just my opinion - I'd imagine there's something covering this buried in the legalese of the league statutes or it wouldn't have got this far. I'd be pretty happy to be proved wrong on that though! Edit: hmm. Having read a bit more around this, I don't think it is a pre-pack. It does seem to have changed hands from one company to another (with both having the same owner) but that was prior to the administration. It seems the new parent company then changed hands and it was the new owner of that that has dumped them into administration. It doesn't sound like they plan on buying them back out either. It sounds like the club are being royally shafted as part of a bigger game. https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920 (https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920) This could be a case of there but for the grace of god for us, given the whole 5Usports mess. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 09, 2020, 22:00:40 pm The blame for Wigan sits solely with the EFL. There are unethical and immoral individuals with cash on the hip everywhere, it’s the governing bodies job to make sure the league members and the fans that support them are protected. This is what happens when a governing body is totally incompetent, not fit for purpose and the national government refuses to get involved? Don’t be under any illusion, without legislation this could be the beginning of the end for lower league football? I am desperately trying not to sound overly dramatic, but countless clubs have been staring into the abyss for years and Covid is probably going to be the catalyst for a mass collapse. Everything seems to point that way, meanwhile the EFL have been spinning plates trying to appear competent whilst the National government looks the other way. It’s an absolute disgrace. League football needs a complete legislative overhaul starting with the removal of the entire board and a restructure regarding the governance of the organisation and it needs it now. The lunatics are are in charge of the asylum and no one is apparently doing anything about it?
As a footnote if I were a player in demand looking to sign a contract this summer the first thing I would look at are the clubs accounts? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on July 10, 2020, 10:12:37 am This is well worth a read. Shocking if true, hope the EFL suspend the points deduction until it can be reviewed
https://twitter.com/marksparko/status/1279000646335836163 Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 10, 2020, 12:29:14 pm That's a good question. The NewCo entity in a pre-pack generally buys the assets they want from the OldCo, so in this case I assume one of the assets is effectively the "golden ticket" of a place in the league. Should they allow it's transfer in these circumstances? Well, it's not really a very sporting way to behave, so ethically and morally I'd say no. an absolute legal minefield, and almost impossible to enforce. However, I firmly believe that we are potentially looking at the systematic collapse of the lower divisions of the football league? Somehow the nettle needs to be grasped and change implemented so that football can come out of the other side for the better? Forget the EFL hierarchy, they couldn’t run a tap? I’ve no idea how to achieve all this by the way, just running my mouth off.However, that's just my opinion - I'd imagine there's something covering this buried in the legalese of the league statutes or it wouldn't have got this far. I'd be pretty happy to be proved wrong on that though! Edit: hmm. Having read a bit more around this, I don't think it is a pre-pack. It does seem to have changed hands from one company to another (with both having the same owner) but that was prior to the administration. It seems the new parent company then changed hands and it was the new owner of that that has dumped them into administration. It doesn't sound like they plan on buying them back out either. It sounds like the club are being royally shafted as part of a bigger game. https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920 (https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920) This could be a case of there but for the grace of god for us, given the whole 5Usports mess. [/quote] Yes, hence my initial comments above. Regarding the EFL (Melbourne). I generally agree but the whole Fit for Purpose test is much easier to criticize in hindsight than administer effectively. A due diligence on whether a potential owner is basically a good guy or not is impractical. What criteria? Geordies have been for years now, protesting about Mike Ashley (he's coming to the Cobblers ;D) in terms of him being some genocidal dictator or at least Cecil Rhodes, when infact, he's kept the club going (in the Prem) with investment - just not enough to keep the Barcodes' fanbase happy. Fit for Purpose? Realistically, all that can be done is to establish financial capability - no easy job of course - re-Sunderland and Stewart Donald. I guess, some sort of commitment test/plan/requirement may at least have stopped Steve Dale destroying Bury FC. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 10, 2020, 12:29:36 pm That's a good question. The NewCo entity in a pre-pack generally buys the assets they want from the OldCo, so in this case I assume one of the assets is effectively the "golden ticket" of a place in the league. Should they allow it's transfer in these circumstances? Well, it's not really a very sporting way to behave, so ethically and morally I'd say no. However, that's just my opinion - I'd imagine there's something covering this buried in the legalese of the league statutes or it wouldn't have got this far. I'd be pretty happy to be proved wrong on that though! Edit: hmm. Having read a bit more around this, I don't think it is a pre-pack. It does seem to have changed hands from one company to another (with both having the same owner) but that was prior to the administration. It seems the new parent company then changed hands and it was the new owner of that that has dumped them into administration. It doesn't sound like they plan on buying them back out either. It sounds like the club are being royally shafted as part of a bigger game. https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920 (https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/wigan-athletic-administration-relegation-scandal-4305920) This could be a case of there but for the grace of god for us, given the whole 5Usports mess. Yes, hence my initial comments above. Regarding the EFL (Melbourne). I generally agree but the whole Fit for Purpose test is much easier to criticize in hindsight than administer effectively. A due diligence on whether a potential owner is basically a good guy or not is impractical. What criteria? Geordies have been for years now, protesting about Mike Ashley (he's coming to the Cobblers ;D) in terms of him being some genocidal dictator or at least Cecil Rhodes, when infact, he's kept the club going (in the Prem) with investment - just not enough to keep the Barcodes' fanbase happy. Fit for Purpose? Realistically, all that can be done is to establish financial capability - no easy job of course - re-Sunderland and Stewart Donald. I guess, some sort of commitment test/plan/requirement may at least have stopped Steve Dale destroying Bury FC. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: clarkeysntfc on July 10, 2020, 12:35:17 pm If Wigan Athletic was community owned they'd be in league 2. Without a benefactor willing to pour £ tens of millions in to them, it's a totally unsustainable entity.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 10, 2020, 12:51:09 pm Maybe before a new owner is allowed to take on a club they should have to lodge a bond with the League which would cover costs for a season if things go wrong. I know that is not always possible but something needs to be done to ensure clubs are run properly.
I would love to see more fan owned clubs, but it is not an easy thing to achieve with the amount of money needed to run a club. Maybe with Covid things may change and wages and overheads will come down to a level where it makes it easier for Fans to take on clubs and be succesful. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: RowN on July 10, 2020, 12:54:10 pm So according to Wigan’s fans, it looks like a Chinese gambler buys the club, places a massive bet on relegation, then deliberately forces them into admin with a 12pt deduction, in order to win his bet.
Must be a massive payoff, if £41m has been paid to date, to do this. For the sums involved, it would suggest organised crime is involved, so the EFL should definitely investigate. I guess this “scheme” is obviously better thought out, than Grossmans/Cardozas plans?? N.B. Anyone remember cheating against the Cobblers, when a player deliberately handball Ed in our penalty area, then clicked the ball in for a goal, which was given?? Worse case of deliberate cheating I’ve ever seen at Sixfields!! Have always hated Wigan since then.. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 10, 2020, 16:11:17 pm So according to Wigan’s fans, it looks like a Chinese gambler buys the club, places a massive bet on relegation, then deliberately forces them into admin with a 12pt deduction, in order to win his bet. He clearly hasn't been listening to Ray Winstone! :PMust be a massive payoff, if £41m has been paid to date, to do this. For the sums involved, it would suggest organised crime is involved, so the EFL should definitely investigate. I guess this “scheme” is obviously better thought out, than Grossmans/Cardozas plans?? N.B. Anyone remember cheating against the Cobblers, when a player deliberately handball Ed in our penalty area, then clicked the ball in for a goal, which was given?? Worse case of deliberate cheating I’ve ever seen at Sixfields!! Have always hated Wigan since then.. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 10, 2020, 20:56:12 pm He clearly hasn't been listening to Ray Winstone! :P Have an uneasy feeling that the guy who forced Administration to ensure 12pt penalty and probable Wigan relegation..... So hence the bet - and going back to my uneasy feeling is this a potential sting operation. If Wigan rally and avoid relegation but take a hit next season what happens to those individuals who betted on Wigans apparent demise........LOL! Clearly one way or the other a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money. Not sure if the guy who has orchestrated this affair maybe a clever guy or just out to take revenge? Would not be surprised if there has been an anonymous huge bet that Wigan are not relegated so affecting a sting operation? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 11, 2020, 09:20:52 am Wigan are not what they once were but, there again, were they ever?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 11, 2020, 10:41:18 am SOG yes they were. Playing in the premiership from 2005 - 2013 and winning the FA cup in 2013 has to count for something.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 11, 2020, 12:36:33 pm My first ever Cobblers game should have been Wigan Athletic (first season in the league) at the County Ground in 1978.
A 4-2 defeat... graffiti sprayed in the Spion Kop from our Lancashire visitors! Never made it, had to wait until December 1979 to make my debut! ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 11, 2020, 13:54:23 pm My first ever Cobblers game should have been Wigan Athletic (first season in the league) at the County Ground in 1978. A 4-2 defeat... graffiti sprayed in the Spion Kop from our Lancashire visitors! Never made it, had to wait until December 1979 to make my debut! ;D Does that mean you were a Spion Kopite :o Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 11, 2020, 15:48:56 pm Does that mean you were a Spion Kopite :o Didn't everyone start at the Spion Kop? It took a while before I ventured to the mean steps of the Hotel End. I can remember my first tentative visit after sneaking around the cricket side at half time. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 11, 2020, 16:17:32 pm SOG yes they were. Playing in the premiership from 2005 - 2013 and winning the FA cup in 2013 has to count for something. Good point. Well made. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 11, 2020, 16:30:59 pm Didn't everyone start at the Spion Kop? It took a while before I ventured to the mean steps of the Hotel End. I can remember my first tentative visit after sneaking around the cricket side at half time. I was either in the seats at the Hotel End end of the main stand, or the paddock below.....I ventured onto the Hotel End in 82/83 when crowds were around the 1500 mark! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 11, 2020, 16:40:30 pm Still a very congested picture down at the bottom of the Championship, any 3 of 9 teams could still go down.
From a selfish POV i'd like Charlton to come down, I missed our trips there a couple of seasons ago as I was on holiday one season and working the next, The Valley is one of just five of the current "92" I haven't been to. Wigan facing a 12 point deduction would now be bottom, but only 4 points from safety, their next two games are against Hull and Charlton. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 11, 2020, 16:42:21 pm I was either in the seats at the Hotel End end of the main stand, or the paddock below.....I ventured onto the Hotel End in 82/83 when crowds were around the 1500 mark! That's right, I started at the front of the main stand towards the Hotel End. My dad sent me down the front while he chatted with his mates - it must have been the start of the family enclosure concept. I remember a wooden plank constructed above the front wall where us youngsters all sat to watch the game. The next step for me was the Spion Kop, waiting at 1pm for the turnstile to open so I could get a spot right behind the goal. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 12, 2020, 11:09:51 am Does that mean you were a Spion Kopite :o Been on the Spion Kop for;Portsmouth - 1980 (10,774) 0-2 Wrexham - final game of season 1984 (1,189) 3-3 Colchester - 1985, kicked off in Hotel End (think won 2-1, forgotten att) Crewe - 1987, final home game (8,890) 2-1 Ipswich - 1987/88, LC (8,200 aprox) 2-4. Oh and ironically, in the temporary stand (ala Bristol Rovers' Memorial Ground) next to the Kop in 1988...versus Wigan Athletic! Think that's it...but remember seeing the graffiti when roaming around the terraces (as you do!) during the cricket. ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 12, 2020, 11:16:35 am That's right, I started at the front of the main stand towards the Hotel End. My dad sent me down the front while he chatted with his mates - it must have been the start of the family enclosure concept. I remember a wooden plank constructed above the front wall where us youngsters all sat to watch the game. Me too! The next step for me was the Spion Kop, waiting at 1pm for the turnstile to open so I could get a spot right behind the goal. Main Stand seats with my stepdad, paddock, then finally venturing onto the Hotel End for Darlington I think around 81 time! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 12, 2020, 11:30:01 am I rarely watched from Spion Kop but did from the Hotel End for a while. When I first started going we went on the cricket side and us kids were let stand at the front. The 1965-66 division 1 season I had a terrace season ticket in front of the main stand, the area from the tunnel to Spion Kop end was made all season ticket and tafter that I continued to watch from the terrace the other side of the tunnel.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2020, 15:51:21 pm Didn’t like the Kop and apart from one rare game avoided the Kop as generally it was populated by away support! Looked on disdain at Main Stand; don’t now though!
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 12, 2020, 21:25:20 pm Did you know, the name Spion Kop originates from the Battle of Spion Kop fought in the Boer War
The battle took place 24 miles west-south-west of Ladysmith on the hilltop of Spioenkop along the Tugela River, Natal in South Africa from 23–24 January 1900. Originating from Dutch it translates as Lookout Hill. I didn’t, but just looked it up. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 13, 2020, 12:17:48 pm Did you know, the name Spion Kop originates from the Battle of Spion Kop fought in the Boer War Er yes! Thougt it was pretty much common knowledge tbf!The battle took place 24 miles west-south-west of Ladysmith on the hilltop of Spioenkop along the Tugela River, Natal in South Africa from 23–24 January 1900. Originating from Dutch it translates as Lookout Hill. I didn’t, but just looked it up. Ironically, just reading a book on the Zulu Wars, prior to the Boer War. Tad bit of British Imperial propoganda regarding their heavy defeat at the hands of the Zulus at Isandlwana. Claims that the regiments ran out of ammunition and were asleep even, to mask the humiliation! Biggest Kops (not Natal or Transval) were Wolves, South Bank, followed by the Holte End, Villa Park. Ours had been variously described as a hummock and appendage! Spoke to Villa fans years back, who said they were crapping it on the terrace back in 82, as was moving under the weight. Some years later, Swindon fans reported similar - what a day that was! Following the Swindon game, the top third was fenced off. The Zulus were finally forced to surrender and give up land in 1879. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 13, 2020, 20:40:25 pm Oxford remain in League 1 for next season!! ;D
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 13, 2020, 20:45:50 pm At least we'll get our traditional 6 points next season!
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 13, 2020, 20:56:54 pm Well, I'm going to enjoy perusing the Yellows Forum! ;D ;D ;D
Sure there's a craft ale bar in Wycombe opening...called Bayo & Stewert! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2995 on July 13, 2020, 21:03:56 pm The play off games are far more entertaining than the premier games have been.
Great to see Wycombe do it and Bayo give it the large one . I sincerely hope we don’t resign him though . If he moved any less he would be done for loitering on a football pitch Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 13, 2020, 21:19:50 pm The play off games are far more entertaining than the premier games have been. +1Great to see Wycombe do it and Bayo give it the large one . I sincerely hope we don’t resign him though . If he moved any less he would be done for loitering on a football pitch He spent the second half dog walking. Top chap but he’s approaching the stage where he is nicking a living.... His persona rather than his footballing ability might get him a league two club that’ll take him into his forties. Fair play to him on a great career but he isn’t a league one striker based on that effort. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 13, 2020, 21:24:24 pm Well, I'm going to enjoy perusing the Yellows Forum! ;D ;D ;D Sure there's a craft ale bar in Wycombe opening...called Bayo & Stewert! You'll have a field day - massive disappointment all round. Most want to sack half the team ; din't turn up, pig sick, totally gutted, losing against a long ball team etc ad finitum. Good job they weren't facing us as Morton would have had a field day plus more long balls and Goode throw ins. Still well done Wycombe! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Dan on July 13, 2020, 21:34:29 pm Forget the Yellows Forum. LondonRoad.net will be magnificent for weeks ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What a dream end to the season these last 2 weeks have been from.a Northampton Town perspective. Knowing how much Posh hated our promotion has been brilliant and this caps it all off ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 13, 2020, 21:38:47 pm There are fireworks going off here in Oxford!
Strange! ;D Some reasoned comments on Yellows Forum tbf! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Dan on July 13, 2020, 21:48:58 pm There are fireworks going off here in Oxford! Strange! ;D Some reasoned comments on Yellows Forum tbf! Many Swindon fans living there ;D? Or is Oxford so used to celebrating second, they're pulling out all the stops? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 13, 2020, 22:07:38 pm There are fireworks going off here in Oxford! Yes, most are magnanimous in defeat offering congrats to Wycombe. Have given a lesson in gentlemanly conduct to Exeter that’s for sure. I take it all back, I quite like them now?Strange! ;D Some reasoned comments on Yellows Forum tbf! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 13, 2020, 22:21:49 pm Many Swindon fans living there ;D? Or is Oxford so used to celebrating second, they're pulling out all the stops? That's why U's fans make the best lovers.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 09:54:20 am So another play off final where the long ball team beat the pretty tippy tappy football of the opposition.
Interesting statistic Oxford 76% possession with 13 shots, Exeter 60% possession with 8 shots, Cobblers 40% possession with 21 shots. Oxford and Exeter with 136% total possession managed to equal the number of shots we achieved with 40% possession. Please no more moaning in future about our long tactics as these statistics prove their effectiveness. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 14, 2020, 10:02:17 am Yes, most are magnanimous in defeat offering congrats to Wycombe. Have given a lesson in gentlemanly conduct to Exeter that’s for sure. I take it all back, I quite like them now? Depends which Forum; on Yellows there is a lot of anger! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 14, 2020, 10:09:30 am That's why U's fans make the best lovers. ? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 14, 2020, 12:24:49 pm ? They always come second.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 14, 2020, 15:36:02 pm Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 14, 2020, 17:42:34 pm Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 18:26:58 pm Half time Wigan 7 Hull 0. this result would leave Wigan 12 points above the relegation places with a far superior goal difference so with the 12 point penalty they would remain in the championship and start next season on -12 points. With 2 games remaining after tonight they have given themselves a great chance of staying up.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 14, 2020, 18:30:55 pm Half time Wigan 7 Hull 0. this result would leave Wigan 12 points above the relegation places with a far superior goal difference so with the 12 point penalty they would remain in the championship and start next season on -12 points. With 2 games remaining after tonight they have given themselves a great chance of staying up. Are you sure that's not Rugby?Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 18:35:01 pm No, it's definately Wigan.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 18:36:50 pm Now 8-0 to Wigan.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 14, 2020, 18:38:05 pm If there is something underhand going on with the owners, I'd love it for the Wigan fans if their players can keep them up.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 14, 2020, 18:39:15 pm Yes, what the Hull is happening up in Wigan?
Eight to say it, but reckon the Tigers are down! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 14, 2020, 18:48:09 pm I'm probably repeating what's already been stated on here but apparently;
- League 1 clubs are supposed to have voted on the date to start next season by tomorrow (July 15th) and it's expected to be September 12th with a season end date of May 22nd 2021. The alternative appears to be August 29th to May 8th 2021. Clubs have been warned they would lose TV money and solidarity payments if they start the season any later. - The Caraboa Cup is expected to start on the weekend before the first football league matches. https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-set-open-2020-21-season-carabao-cup-tie-and-vote-league-one-start-date-scheduled-next-week-2907463 Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 14, 2020, 19:45:45 pm Luton winning 1-0, if they claim the 3 points they would climb out of the relegation places.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 14, 2020, 20:23:42 pm I'm probably repeating what's already been stated on here but apparently; - League 1 clubs are supposed to have voted on the date to start next season by tomorrow (July 15th) and it's expected to be September 12th with a season end date of May 22nd 2021. The alternative appears to be August 29th to May 8th 2021. Clubs have been warned they would lose TV money and solidarity payments if they start the season any later. - The Caraboa Cup is expected to start on the weekend before the first football league matches. https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-set-open-2020-21-season-carabao-cup-tie-and-vote-league-one-start-date-scheduled-next-week-2907463 August 29th is Record Store Day so let's hope not. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 14, 2020, 20:26:00 pm Luton winning 1-0, if they claim the 3 points they would climb out of the relegation places. My legs won't fit into the seats in Kenilworth Road. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 14, 2020, 23:32:07 pm Half time Wigan 7 Hull 0. this result would leave Wigan 12 points above the relegation places with a far superior goal difference so with the 12 point penalty they would remain in the championship and start next season on -12 points. With 2 games remaining after tonight they have given themselves a great chance of staying up. For anyone wondering how often a team gas scored seven goals in the first half, the answer is twice. Wigan V Hull yesterday, and Man C V Norwich next week.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 15, 2020, 04:30:59 am Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3264 on July 15, 2020, 08:21:56 am Wigan won 8-0 and could get relegated.
Who won 9-0 and STILL got relegated? Sorry, it had to be Northampton Town against Exeter (1956-57?). Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 15, 2020, 20:10:05 pm I'm probably repeating what's already been stated on here but apparently; - League 1 clubs are supposed to have voted on the date to start next season by tomorrow (July 15th) and it's expected to be September 12th with a season end date of May 22nd 2021. The alternative appears to be August 29th to May 8th 2021. Clubs have been warned they would lose TV money and solidarity payments if they start the season any later. - The Caraboa Cup is expected to start on the weekend before the first football league matches. https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-set-open-2020-21-season-carabao-cup-tie-and-vote-league-one-start-date-scheduled-next-week-2907463 The crucial vote is now expected to be on July 24th. Leaves very little time to organize pre-season. September 12th now more and more likely the start date for the league. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Dr Feelgood on July 16, 2020, 01:07:43 am For some reason I have a very bad feeling about next season..
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 16, 2020, 05:47:07 am For some reason I have a very bad feeling about next season.. Baldy doesn't.... ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on July 16, 2020, 09:32:38 am For some reason I have a very bad feeling about next season.. Sort it out Doc... We're on a roll.. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: clarkeysntfc on July 16, 2020, 09:49:40 am In my view with the fixture pile-up for 20/21 meaning that there will be more midweek games than usual, it would make sense to give the EFL Trophy a fallow season and keep to the two domestic cup competitions.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: threeinabed on July 16, 2020, 09:56:45 am In my view with the fixture pile-up for 20/21 meaning that there will be more midweek games than usual, it would make sense to give the EFL Trophy a fallow season and keep to the two domestic cup competitions. or keep the one we have a better chance of winning? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 16, 2020, 09:58:24 am If they can do without the sponsorship money for competing in the EFL Trophy clearly clubs moaning about a lack of finance are making it up.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Brixworth Claret on July 16, 2020, 12:06:28 pm Not sure if I'm writing in the correct thread,
Can't seem to find anything on when the main shirt sponsor from UoN expires. Possibly a good opportunity for the club to get more money from this by getting promoted for next season although not sure how COVID will affect the sponsorship market. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 19, 2020, 09:45:52 am With the championship's fixtures concluding on wednesday it appears that Hull and Barnsley will be joining us in division 1 unless there are some exeptional results in the remaining games.
The third relegation spot will be taken by Wigan, Charlton or Luton although Luton have given themselves a good chance of avoiding the drop by winning at Hull yesterday. To stay up Wigan need to beat Fulham, who have a very slight chance of automatic promotion, and then rely on Charlton or Luton not winning. If Wigan stay up Luton need to obtain 1 more point than Charlton on wednesday but this is achievable as they are at home to Blackburn and Charlton are away at Leeds. It looks unlikely that we will have 2 local derbys with Luton next season. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 19, 2020, 10:22:21 am Not sure if I'm writing in the correct thread, Are Carpet Super Centre still operating? Can't seem to find anything on when the main shirt sponsor from UoN expires. Possibly a good opportunity for the club to get more money from this by getting promoted for next season although not sure how COVID will affect the sponsorship market. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Cordwainer2 on July 19, 2020, 10:26:44 am With the championship's fixtures concluding on wednesday it appears that Hull and Barnsley will be joining us in division 1 unless there are some exeptional results in the remaining games. Are Birmingham still in the mix? The third relegation spot will be taken by Wigan, Charlton or Luton although Luton have given themselves a good chance of avoiding the drop by winning at Hull yesterday. To stay up Wigan need to beat Fulham, who have a very slight chance of automatic promotion, and then rely on Charlton or Luton not winning. If Wigan stay up Luton need to obtain 1 more point than Charlton on wednesday but this is achievable as they are at home to Blackburn and Charlton are away at Leeds. It looks unlikely that we will have 2 local derbys with Luton next season. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 19, 2020, 11:40:51 am Birmingham and Middlesborough could be relegated but for this to happen both Luton and Charlton need to win on wednesday. If they both won Birmingham and Middlesborough would both need 1 point and all 4 teams would finish on equal points in which case Luton would be favourites to go down as they have the worst goal difference.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 19, 2020, 11:57:29 am Correction: Birmingham and Middlesborough cannot be relegated even if they both lose their remaining games and Luton and Charlton win theirs. This is because even if Wigan beat Fulham with their 12 point deduction they would finish below all 4 and would be relegated.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 1971cobbler on July 19, 2020, 12:52:36 pm Correction: Birmingham and Middlesborough cannot be relegated even if they both lose their remaining games and Luton and Charlton win theirs. This is because even if Wigan beat Fulham with their 12 point deduction they would finish below all 4 and would be relegated. So, are Wigan effectively sitting on 46 points currently? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Brixworth Claret on July 19, 2020, 14:15:40 pm Are Carpet Super Centre still operating? Sofa King? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on July 19, 2020, 15:08:32 pm Vanaid ??
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 19, 2020, 18:22:46 pm 1971, yes Wigan are effectively on 46 points with the 12 point deduction. However, if they finish 12 points above the relegation places the deduction would mean that they remain in the championship. In this case the 12 points will not be deducted and they would finish the season on 56 points plus any gained from their last game.
However the 12 point deduction would be held over to next season and they would start in the championship on -12 points. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 1971cobbler on July 19, 2020, 20:36:13 pm 1971, yes Wigan are effectively on 46 points with the 12 point deduction. However, if they finish 12 points above the relegation places the deduction would mean that they remain in the championship. In this case the 12 points will not be deducted and they would finish the season on 56 points plus any gained from their last game. However the 12 point deduction would be held over to next season and they would start in the championship on -12 points. Thanks for this. :) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on July 19, 2020, 23:12:21 pm Vanaid ?? Nationwide. Feckers aren't paying me any interest on my savings so they can afford it.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on July 20, 2020, 14:27:30 pm There has also been an appeal against Wigan's points deduction based on force majeure, although it likely to fail as the club were bought during coronavirus so wasn't an unknown. They cant appeal on it being a huge f***ing corruption and the EFL being f***ing useless in approving it.
There is also a potential points deduction for Sheffield Wednesday. Anywhere from 10 to 40 points apparently for the way the way they sold the stadium. So even when the season finishes we wont know for sure who is coming down for sure Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 20, 2020, 15:21:08 pm I saw on one of the league 1 facebook groups that at least 12 clubs are threatening to take the Football league to court if they restart the season without supporters being allowed in as a lot of them will be bankrupted by this course of events. It could be that we don't see a new season this year if that is the case.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 20, 2020, 15:46:00 pm I saw on one of the league 1 facebook groups that at least 12 clubs are threatening to take the Football league to court if they restart the season without supporters being allowed in as a lot of them will be bankrupted by this course of events. It could be that we don't see a new season this year if that is the case. The clubs and EFL will be bankrupted by legal fees at this rate. Surely delaying the beginning of the season will mean fewer games possible before the end of the season. Have these ten clubs been selling season tickets on false promises to their supporters ? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 20, 2020, 15:54:19 pm The clubs and EFL will be bankrupted by legal fees at this rate. Yes, was going to say similar! The ridiculous irony of some clubs throwing around threats of court action (Posh and Tranmere to name two) with the protracted action and fees it would incur, on the basis of decisions (largely beyond the EFL's control) affecting their finances is, well ironic!Surely delaying the beginning of the season will mean fewer games possible before the end of the season. Have these ten clubs been selling season tickets on false promises to their supporters ? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Why? on July 20, 2020, 18:08:35 pm We will flirt with the play-off places.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 20, 2020, 19:11:38 pm We will flirt with the play-off places. Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off! ;)Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 20, 2020, 19:38:53 pm Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off! ;) Flirt not a full-on assault... Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Why? on July 20, 2020, 21:37:35 pm Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off! ;) Why? Intrigued..... My stocking-top awaits..... Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Athena on July 22, 2020, 09:53:26 am So the Championship season ends this evening and we will then know what 3 teams will be coming down to meet us next season, OR WILL WE? I suspect a significant amount of arguments and indeed probably legal action will follow very quickly with various clubs claiming they should stay up as others should have points deductions etc, etc. I get a feeling it might all get a bit nasty. What a mess! Add to that the Macclesfield / Stevenage wrangle and it's all becoming a bit of a joke. Perhaps the Posh will put in a writ saying we did not deserve promotion!!
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on July 22, 2020, 10:18:48 am As it stands we will only know 1 for sure. Wigan face 12 points for administration. Sheff Weds and Derby both for charges on FFP and the sale of the ground to boost the accounts. The deductions for SW and DC could be anything.
If Wigan beat Fulham and either Charlton or Luton fail to win they will stay up regardless. Essentially its all a huge mess but I would imagine any point deductions for SW or DC would be next season. If Wigan win and the results go their way, and they win their appeal then they will stay up and be on -12 next season potentially. Or would the appeal mean they get away with it all??? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 22, 2020, 19:40:47 pm Half time Luton with no shots on target beating Blackburn 2-1, both OG's.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: WadeyCobbler on July 22, 2020, 22:18:55 pm So, assuming unsuccessful appeals and no more points deductions we have Hull, Wigan and Charlton joining us in League One. A great escape by Barnsley and Lu'on. While Forest choked at the death in the play-off race. A mad night.
League One is going to be tough, very tough. Lots of big clubs and lots of exciting games to come and some great grounds to visit (virus pending). For me it's all about survival. Anything else would be a huge bonus. We just need to stop the cycle of promotion followed swiftly by relegation and try and establish ourselves in League One with an eventual push for the Championship. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 05:19:22 am Could also be Sheffield Wednesday instead of Charlton... :o
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on July 23, 2020, 08:24:06 am Could also be Sheffield Wednesday instead of Charlton... :o Or Derby, or both. Or if Wigan appeal is successful, could be Sheffield Wednesday instead or Barnsley, or Derby, or both instead of Charlton and Barnsley. Hull are f****dTitle: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 23, 2020, 08:48:25 am So no one's got a clue who goes down yet?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 23, 2020, 09:32:28 am So no one's got a clue who goes down yet? Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on July 23, 2020, 10:01:32 am Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG? The Derby case has already been heard but the verdict not released and Sheff Wednesday has been going on since November. If they are closed before mid august (when the AGM is) then points will be deducted this season apparently. Barnsley were threatening legal action when it looked like they would be relegated. Now they are safe i guess they'll go quiet, unless Wigan are successful in their appeal Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 12:33:52 pm Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG? I think that you don't understand: Sheff Wed and Derby have as much chance of being relegated as Wigan, Charlton, Barnsley and Hull, at the moment, if/until the EFL decide to conclude the ongoing processes prior to the league confirming the league participants for next season. We have a confirmed number of 20 opponents for next season, it's the three from the Championship that have yet to be confirmed. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Saint Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 14:39:16 pm We'll definitely be visiting/hosting Hull and Charlton next season. Looking forward to these games.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2020, 14:52:22 pm We'll definitely be visiting/hosting Hull and Charlton next season. Looking forward to these games. Not definitely. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: tcobb on July 23, 2020, 20:18:30 pm Sheffield Wednesday and Derby County would be better ;D
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 23, 2020, 21:40:36 pm I think that you don't understand: Sheff Wed and Derby have as much chance of being relegated as Wigan, Charlton, Barnsley and Hull, at the moment, if/until the EFL decide to conclude the ongoing processes prior to the league confirming the league participants for next season. We have a confirmed number of 20 opponents for next season, it's the three from the Championship that have yet to be confirmed. It's pretty straight forward to understand. However you may have missed my point on the current situation. At the moment Hull, Charlton and Wigan are destined for the drop. Perhaps Wednesday and Derby have as much chance of being relegated in lieu of Charlton and Wigan; that is not my opinion. It would take an almighty decision (even brave) to relegate Wednesday and Derby to L1. Ironically I feel that the current incumbents will be relegated based on the current rules being upheld! I would not put it past the EFL to punish the two clubs in question by a points deduction next season? As so often on here its all about opinions! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2995 on July 23, 2020, 23:27:20 pm It’s bad news Wigan have been relegated .
They start afresh with no debts and are clearly a very good side . They should be relegated 3 divisions in my view Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on July 24, 2020, 11:20:19 am Given our historical results it would be better if Wigan won their appeal and stayed up. In 35 games we have only beaten them 5 times and we have failed to score in each of the last 7 fixtures, they are clearly a competent mid table championship team.
This would then send Barnsley down who have only beaten us 6 times in 24 matches. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 24, 2020, 12:18:42 pm Worth bearing in mind that in the case of Wigan the deduction has already taken place and the appeal already lodged. This will be heard on 31st July.
In the case of both Derby and Sheffield Wednesday they have both been charged...but thats it. Wednesday were charged in November 2019, and Derby in January 2020. Neither have yet been found guilty and therefore neither have had any punishment dished out on them, and therefore neither have appealed! The timeframes before next season are now pretty short, so its highly unlikely that a punishment in the form of points deduction will be made, appeal heard and new judgement published before the start of 2020/21 season. More than likely these two will face any potential points deduction next season rather than keep a number of teams hanging on not knowing which Division they will be playing in. Its only 4 weeks until the fixtures for next season are published. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 24, 2020, 13:05:47 pm Worth bearing in mind that in the case of Wigan the deduction has already taken place and the appeal already lodged. This will be heard on 31st July. In the case of both Derby and Sheffield Wednesday they have both been charged...but thats it. Wednesday were charged in November 2019, and Derby in January 2020. Neither have yet been found guilty and therefore neither have had any punishment dished out on them, and therefore neither have appealed! The timeframes before next season are now pretty short, so its highly unlikely that a punishment in the form of points deduction will be made, appeal heard and new judgement published before the start of 2020/21 season. More than likely these two will face any potential points deduction next season rather than keep a number of teams hanging on not knowing which Division they will be playing in. Its only 4 weeks until the fixtures for next season are published. Roughly my opinion too. Good detail as well. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 24, 2020, 13:30:56 pm It’s bad news Wigan have been relegated . They start afresh with no debts and are clearly a very good side . They should be relegated 3 divisions in my view I feel the Wigan situation is not of their making in any way. Speaking to one of the Wigan trust members the other day it sounds they have been royally stitched up by a crook. They weren't in any debt of any form and he just removed everything and wanted to liquidate the club, it was lucky that they got administration. They hadn't spent loads on players or anything the guy was just a crook. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 24, 2020, 14:31:10 pm Looks like the League starts on September 12th because thats what the Prem want. No news on who or how many will be allowed in.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 24, 2020, 14:37:26 pm Well the government have already said no to crowds before October 1st....that could well be extended as well depending on the situation
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 24, 2020, 14:54:28 pm Well the government have already said no to crowds before October 1st....that could well be extended as well depending on the situation And there is talk that when crowds are allowed to return it will be no more than 33% capacity, which hasn't pleased the Rugby Union because they were expecting a 50% allowance. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 24, 2020, 15:27:50 pm And there is talk that when crowds are allowed to return it will be no more than 33% capacity, which hasn't pleased the Rugby Union because they were expecting a 50% allowance. Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. We took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3063 on July 24, 2020, 15:32:50 pm Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. We took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. And lose our home advantage? No chance. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 24, 2020, 15:36:13 pm Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. We took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. Would not like that at all. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: EB Claret on July 24, 2020, 16:55:37 pm Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. We took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. No, stadium mk has no soul and we'd be selling ours if we played there >:(! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Another Pedj on July 24, 2020, 17:02:15 pm It’s bad news Wigan have been relegated . not quite true. They need to meet certain financial obligations or they start with 15 point penaltyThey start afresh with no debts and are clearly a very good side . They should be relegated 3 divisions in my view Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: NTFC87 on July 24, 2020, 21:38:42 pm Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. fcuk off rather watch us play on far cotton rec than give them any moneyWe took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 25, 2020, 09:30:04 am Given our historical results it would be better if Wigan won their appeal and stayed up. In 35 games we have only beaten them 5 times and we have failed to score in each of the last 7 fixtures well as long as they dont put out the same team that played us in 1996 we should be okTitle: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on July 25, 2020, 09:30:31 am Ground sharing - MK Dons have a much larger capacity than ours - might work for Luton as well. ok mate sounds goodWe took loads to MK Dons when we played them in the Cup not so long ago. Would save money in putting in the infrastructure for safe distancing as well. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: andycobbler on July 25, 2020, 10:19:19 am Well the government have already said no to crowds before October 1st....that could well be extended as well depending on the situation Just read about an virus killing mist spray which costs pennies and not much more to install. Could be the answer for full stadia from start of the season. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 25, 2020, 12:32:39 pm I can't help but think face masks will be compulsary when fans return, what with people singing/shouting etc.
I also can't help but think, a lot of Northampton fans will be stupid enough not to comply. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Freddie Ramscar on July 25, 2020, 17:03:40 pm well as long as they dont put out the same team that played us in 1996 we should be ok Definitely should be OK, they'll all be over 40 now. :D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 25, 2020, 18:53:14 pm I would rather the season did not start than it started with no fans in the grounds. What do you lot think?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 25, 2020, 18:56:13 pm Worth bearing in mind that in the case of Wigan the deduction has already taken place and the appeal already lodged. This will be heard on 31st July. In the case of both Derby and Sheffield Wednesday they have both been charged...but thats it. Wednesday were charged in November 2019, and Derby in January 2020. Neither have yet been found guilty and therefore neither have had any punishment dished out on them, and therefore neither have appealed! The timeframes before next season are now pretty short, so its highly unlikely that a punishment in the form of points deduction will be made, appeal heard and new judgement published before the start of 2020/21 season. More than likely these two will face any potential points deduction next season rather than keep a number of teams hanging on not knowing which Division they will be playing in. Its only 4 weeks until the fixtures for next season are published. Not sure if you or anybody else on here has seen this Owls thread on EFL hearing on SW fair play as apparently the hearing is https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/290276-the-efl-hearing-thread/page/556/#comments Some real dooms day comedy comments. Seems they have no money!! and coming season will be a write off. New one on me "shiŦstorm" at least not on here. Also now strong rumours of Administration! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 25, 2020, 18:58:08 pm I would rather the season did not start than it started with no fans in the grounds. What do you lot think? Who needs fans when we win well without them :o Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on July 25, 2020, 19:32:36 pm I would rather the season did not start than it started with no fans in the grounds. What do you lot think? I think we are lucky to be in League 1 where there's likely to be enough TV money to cover the costs of playing behind closed doors. The Championship will be ok but I fear for League 2. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: lordjord on July 29, 2020, 11:20:16 am I am not sure if it has been mentioned on here, but Shrewsbury have suggested what I think is a logical idea. If fans are allowed back in from October onwards, why not start the season with the leasing.com trophies and the carabao cup games. These games tend to have less fans anyway (particularly the JPT esque games). So get those out the way early, I dont think these count as ST games either, so again that helps. Could still finish the season in time but the league wouldnt probably start until October in that case.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 29, 2020, 12:18:29 pm I am not sure if it has been mentioned on here, but Shrewsbury have suggested what I think is a logical idea. If fans are allowed back in from October onwards, why not start the season with the leasing.com trophies and the carabao cup games. These games tend to have less fans anyway (particularly the JPT esque games). So get those out the way early, I dont think these count as ST games either, so again that helps. Could still finish the season in time but the league wouldnt probably start until October in that case. That premise assumes things will improve as the season progresses?Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: lordjord on July 29, 2020, 12:44:07 pm That premise assumes things will improve as the season progresses? Indeed, which is something no one can answer right now. But assuming a percentage of fans are allowed in October, it would seem like a better route to go. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 29, 2020, 12:50:41 pm Just read about an virus killing mist spray which costs pennies and not much more to install. Could be the answer for full stadia from start of the season. ;D Really Andy you shouldn’t ‘Champion’ Dettol Spray 8) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 29, 2020, 13:02:37 pm Indeed, which is something no one can answer right now. But assuming a percentage of fans are allowed in October, it would seem like a better route to go. My guess is that we will have to be more pragmatic (I would actually say "adult") about allowing those most not at risk freedom of movement whilst protecting properly those most at risk. The science community also need to firm up on when they will have a vaccine and how effective it is expected to be. As you know the flu vaccine issued every year only ever has partial success. BTW I'm being arrogant here but I suggested what Shrewsbury are suggesting now a few weeks ago on here. BTW Impressed with Kelvin's commitment and comments on those youtube videos earlier today. A budget for next season equal to the one we had in the first season back in L1 (pre the Chinese arrangements) is good news given all the downsides football faces in the next months or more. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on July 29, 2020, 14:16:21 pm Just read about an virus killing mist spray which costs pennies and not much more to install. Could be the answer for full stadia from start of the season. ChAdOx1 nCoV-19-Mr-Sheen I believe Oxford University have dubbed it!Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 31, 2020, 11:28:55 am Government is to announce fans will no longer be permitted to attend the sporting pilot events allowing limited numbers of spectators at Goodwood, the Crucible and the Oval in coming days after evidence the infection rate has risen across the country
So not looking likely for returning to Sixfields in October... Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 31, 2020, 11:44:35 am As it is looking less and less likely that the fans will be allowed in, is there an argument now for allowing Season ticket holders access to ifollow for free until we are allowed back in. So we can still watch the games live.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on July 31, 2020, 11:56:41 am That's pretty much what Kelvin was saying they are working to. It would be staggering if it wasn't the case. If you use your favourite search engine and insert "ifollow season ticket holders" you'll see that the methodology is well established.
A real shame. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 31, 2020, 11:58:26 am I think whatever games that are behind closed doors then we can expect iFollow access to Season Ticket holders.
Maybe even matchday tickets for non STs as well who knows Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Battery Man on July 31, 2020, 12:04:00 pm lets just hope we dont have to play any of the clubs that will be sell outs whilst we can't fill the stadium, which I think could be as much as half the games this season.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Charlatan on July 31, 2020, 14:41:10 pm I am not sure if it has been mentioned on here, but Shrewsbury have suggested what I think is a logical idea. If fans are allowed back in from October onwards, why not start the season with the leasing.com trophies and the carabao cup games. These games tend to have less fans anyway (particularly the JPT esque games). So get those out the way early, I dont think these count as ST games either, so again that helps. Could still finish the season in time but the league wouldnt probably start until October in that case. That does make sense, good post lordjohn.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on July 31, 2020, 14:42:59 pm lets just hope we dont have to play any of the clubs that will be sell outs whilst we can't fill the stadium, which I think could be as much as half the games this season. As soon as Boris relaxes the rules, the numbers of cases start to rise. I'm surprised anyone can be as optimistic as thinking only half the games will be subject to capacity or demographic restrictions. Get your I follow ticket now.Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Winslow Lee on July 31, 2020, 15:34:50 pm My guess is that we will have to be more pragmatic (I would actually say "adult") about allowing those most not at risk freedom of movement whilst protecting properly those most at risk. The science community also need to firm up on when they will have a vaccine and how effective it is expected to be. As you know the flu vaccine issued every year only ever has partial success. I couldn’t disagree more. Even if deaths would be limited at the least at risk groups, by having Covid rampant in society which is what would happen, there is only so much you can do to protect the vulnerable, not to mention surely a duty of care towards essential workers. If that means no fans in grounds among other inconveniences then so be it. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 31, 2020, 16:12:06 pm I couldn’t disagree more. Even if deaths would be limited at the least at risk groups, by having Covid rampant in society which is what would happen, there is only so much you can do to protect the vulnerable, not to mention surely a duty of care towards essential workers. If that means no fans in grounds among other inconveniences then so be it. Agreed, those 'most not at risk' could and are shown to have been carriers to those who are at risk. It is happening now which is why the death and infection figures are once again rising. People have taken the relaxation too far, taking the Government advice with a pinch of salt, in their own sense of entitlement. They are the first to complain when one of their close family and/or friends ends up on the mortuary slab when they could have been the ones to have caused it. Despite it now not being part of a saturated news coverage, it hasn't gone away! We are still a long way from anywhere near full stadia again. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2020, 17:53:29 pm Agreed, those 'most not at risk' could and are shown to have been carriers to those who are at risk. It is happening now which is why the death and infection figures are once again rising. People have taken the relaxation too far, taking the Government advice with a pinch of salt, in their own sense of entitlement. They are the first to complain when one of their close family and/or friends ends up on the mortuary slab when they could have been the ones to have caused it. Despite it now not being part of a saturated news coverage, it hasn't gone away! We are still a long way from anywhere near full stadia again. Agreed with all the sentiments expressed here. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2020, 19:22:28 pm Worth bearing in mind that in the case of Wigan the deduction has already taken place and the appeal already lodged. This will be heard on 31st July. In the case of both Derby and Sheffield Wednesday they have both been charged...but thats it. Wednesday were charged in November 2019, and Derby in January 2020. Neither have yet been found guilty and therefore neither have had any punishment dished out on them, and therefore neither have appealed! The timeframes before next season are now pretty short, so its highly unlikely that a punishment in the form of points deduction will be made, appeal heard and new judgement published before the start of 2020/21 season. More than likely these two will face any potential points deduction next season rather than keep a number of teams hanging on not knowing which Division they will be playing in. Its only 4 weeks until the fixtures for next season are published. EFL Verdict on Sheffield Wednesday An independent Disciplinary Commission, appointed under EFL Regulations, has ruled that Sheffield Wednesday will receive a 12 point deduction for breaching the League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules for the three season reporting period ending with Season 2017/18. The sporting sanction will take effect in season 2020/21. The Club was charged in November 2019 and referred to an independent Disciplinary Commission, which conducted a full hearing at the end of June 2020, before finding the Club guilty based on the fact that the Club should not have included profits from the sale of Hillsborough Stadium in the Club’s financial statements for the period ending July 2018. The Club was found not guilty of a further charge of breaching its duty of utmost good faith to the EFL by deliberately concealing information from the League in respect of filings made in respect of the Profitability and Sustainability Rules. **************************************************************************************************************** Quite a few rumours on the Owls Forum that they might may yet end up in Administration. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3086 on July 31, 2020, 19:36:50 pm Bearing in mind that SARS-CoV-2 is here to stay and that it is extremely unlikely fans will be able to attend in the forthcoming season where does that leave us? It seems that buying and selling players is a very precarious activity. Are we all doomed?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: DrillingCobbler on July 31, 2020, 21:11:31 pm Like any fan who has renewed season tickets, I just hope we can get some value from it. But did so out of loyalty, to contribute towards keeping the club going etc. Failure to do so, I hope I can log on to the i-player, have a barbecue, few beers (worked well in the play offs!) and make the most of a sh1t situation...
My own expectations...unless a vaccine is found (I remain optimistic that the best team in the world can live up to that tag) we will struggle to see much live football this year. BUT. I remain hopeful. You never know. At the end of the day, I take a week at a time. Oxford...sort it eyt. Ill even sing your name when we play you. I promise! ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 31, 2020, 22:21:54 pm Covid will be sorted sooner rather than later. Either they will find a vaccine or people will rebel and lockdown measures will become less and less effective and it will take its natural course? I’m not suggesting that is the right thing to do, just that it is inevitable and you can sense the beginnings of it over here? Either way it won’t drag on indefinitely. Not sure where that leaves football though?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 09:34:49 am Covid will be sorted sooner rather than later. Either they will find a vaccine or people will rebel and lockdown measures will become less and less effective and it will take its natural course? I’m not suggesting that is the right thing to do, just that it is inevitable and you can sense the beginnings of it over here? Either way it won’t drag on indefinitely. Not sure where that leaves football though? Thks Melly you’ve cheered us all up! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on August 01, 2020, 12:26:54 pm Oxford mean business
They’ve signed matty taylor and are set to sign Omar boggle That’s some forward line.... Meanwhile we have one forward and are prepared to wait till the last minute to see if we can sign Callum Morton. Recipe for disaster imo. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 01, 2020, 12:28:44 pm Thks Melly you’ve cheered us all up! Sorry Evers, perhaps not the wisest commentary on reflection?Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 13:24:33 pm Sorry Evers, perhaps not the wisest commentary on reflection? no probs ;D Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3264 on August 01, 2020, 13:31:30 pm Oxford mean business They’ve signed matty taylor and are set to sign Omar boggle That’s some forward line.... Meanwhile we have one forward and are prepared to wait till the last minute to see if we can sign Callum Morton. Recipe for disaster imo. Dear Mr Jonah, Have you EVER posted a positive comment about NTFC who you pertain to support? All the other clubs in the League are holding back on signings.........or have you not noted the facts for your arguement? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 13:31:47 pm Oxford mean business They’ve signed matty taylor and are set to sign Omar boggle That’s some forward line.... Meanwhile we have one forward and are prepared to wait till the last minute to see if we can sign Callum Morton. Recipe for disaster imo. It isn't any better than Hoskins and Smith. Apart from Grimsby Bogle has been an expensive failure at two clubs sooner Oxford than us! Matty Taylor is now nearly 40yrs! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Aitobs on August 01, 2020, 13:35:52 pm Covid will be sorted sooner rather than later. Either they will find a vaccine or people will rebel and lockdown measures will become less and less effective and it will take its natural course? I’m not suggesting that is the right thing to do, just that it is inevitable and you can sense the beginnings of it over here? Either way it won’t drag on indefinitely. Not sure where that leaves football though? I normally think you talk a lot of sense on here MC, but I can't agree with any of this. People were saying similar things in March (Johnson even blustered in March about 'turning the tide in 12 weeks' and 'sending the coronavirus packing') but none of it has really transpired. Allowing the coronavirus to "take its natural course" would lead to an explosion in cases, overwhelmed hospitals, a shot economy, and untold levels of grief and destitution. You say "it won't drag on indefinitely" but it could be with us for many years to come. This is not an issue for football that is going away any time soon. I think you have a different view in Australasia because, by all accounts, Scott Morrison and Jacinda Ardern have done a very good job at containing the pandemic in their respective countries, by taking bold, brave, prompt, scientifically-grounded and correct decisions. Contrast that to the complete chaos, indecision and incompetence from the UK government (which was always likely given the blithering, bumbling idiot at the top) and you can see why many people in the UK are terrified of what might happen next. It was the British public who took this country into lockdown because the politicians were asleep at the wheel. We don't have the luxury of being confident in our government. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 13:43:30 pm I normally think you talk a lot of sense on here MC, but I can't agree with any of this. People were saying similar things in March (Johnson even blustered in March about 'turning the tide in 12 weeks' and 'sending the coronavirus packing') but none of it has really transpired. Allowing the coronavirus to "take its natural course" would lead to an explosion in cases, overwhelmed hospitals, a shot economy, and untold levels of grief and destitution. You say "it won't drag on indefinitely" but it could be with us for many years to come. This is not an issue for football that is going away any time soon. I think you have a different view in Australasia because, by all accounts, Scott Morrison and Jacinda Ardern have done a very good job at containing the pandemic in their respective countries, by taking bold, brave, prompt, scientifically-grounded and correct decisions. Contrast that to the complete chaos, indecision and incompetence from the UK government (which was always likely given the blithering, bumbling idiot at the top) and you can see why many people in the UK are terrified of what might happen next. It was the British public who took this country into lockdown because the politicians were asleep at the wheel. We don't have the luxury of being confident in our government. The Royal 'we' to boot. Australia has a serious issue at the moment ::) But hey this is about L1 season so digress. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: TownOwl on August 01, 2020, 13:54:26 pm It isn't any better than Hoskins and Smith. Apart from Grimsby Bogle has been an expensive failure at two clubs sonner Oxford than us! Matty Taylor is now nearly 40yrs! ;D ;D ;D Oh Evers... That was a joke, right? (Two Matty Taylors, there's only...) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Aitobs on August 01, 2020, 13:57:46 pm The Royal 'we' to boot. Australia has a serious issue at the moment ::) But hey this is about L1 season so digress. I say 'we' as I speak for the vast majority of Brits, with recent figures showing UK government's handling of the coronavirus is only approved of by 34% of people - the lowest in the world. Meanwhile, Australia's Scott Morrison has an approval rating of +78. You are right that Australia has an issue, but it is worth putting these things into perspective. Australia has so far had 200 coronavirus deaths, whilst the official UK death toll stands at 46,000, with some estimates including one from the Financial Times putting it as high as 65,000. Every one is a tragedy. New Zealand have already allowed fans back into football stadiums. Due to great leadership, they are Covid-free. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 14:07:28 pm ;D ;D ;D Oh Evers... That was a joke, right? (Two Matty Taylors, there's only...) Blimey you noticed! Yes it was a poor mans joke. I did like the real Matty Taylor and never forgot his well taken Penalty at Wimbledon! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 01, 2020, 14:12:06 pm I say 'we' as I speak for the vast majority of Brits, with recent figures showing UK government's handling of the coronavirus is only approved of by 34% of people - the lowest in the world. Meanwhile, Australia's Scott Morrison has an approval rating of +78. You are right that Australia has an issue, but it is worth putting these things into perspective. Australia has so far had 200 coronavirus deaths, whilst the official UK death toll stands at 46,000, with some estimates including one from the Financial Times putting it as high as 65,000. Every one is a tragedy. New Zealand have already allowed fans back into football stadiums. Due to great leadership, they are Covid-free. Thanks Jezza - ' I say 'we' as I speak for the vast majority of Brits' - bet you are not ::) No more on this from me. Its anti thread! https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/06/03/approval-government-handling-coronavirus-sinks-low Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 01, 2020, 15:20:06 pm I normally think you talk a lot of sense on here MC, but I can't agree with any of this. People were saying similar things in March (Johnson even blustered in March about 'turning the tide in 12 weeks' and 'sending the coronavirus packing') but none of it has really transpired. Allowing the coronavirus to "take its natural course" would lead to an explosion in cases, overwhelmed hospitals, a shot economy, and untold levels of grief and destitution. Perhaps you should read it again? I didn’t suggest it should take its natural course, rather that people seem to be starting to rebel against government restrictions meaning that it may? At no point did I recommend it as a course of action? Even so, perhaps not the most advisable of statements as I said?You say "it won't drag on indefinitely" but it could be with us for many years to come. This is not an issue for football that is going away any time soon. I think you have a different view in Australasia because, by all accounts, Scott Morrison and Jacinda Ardern have done a very good job at containing the pandemic in their respective countries, by taking bold, brave, prompt, scientifically-grounded and correct decisions. Contrast that to the complete chaos, indecision and incompetence from the UK government (which was always likely given the blithering, bumbling idiot at the top) and you can see why many people in the UK are terrified of what might happen next. It was the British public who took this country into lockdown because the politicians were asleep at the wheel. We don't have the luxury of being confident in our government. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on August 04, 2020, 16:31:58 pm Wigan have lost their appeal against relegation from the Championship so we'll be playing them next season.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: wazzacobbler on August 04, 2020, 19:38:24 pm Wigan have lost their appeal against relegation from the Championship so we'll be playing them next season. That's my local game sorted for next season then. Just 1 stop on the London to Glasgow line. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3359 on August 04, 2020, 20:00:19 pm Wigan have lost their appeal against relegation from the Championship so we'll be playing them next season. Genuinely feel sorry for them. The fans have been royally screwed over. Hope they finish second next season and bounce straight back. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Noshes Shakily on August 05, 2020, 14:44:26 pm That's my local game sorted for next season then. Just 1 stop on the London to Glasgow line. I'll be coming the opposite direction, Wazza! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: CobblerForever on August 05, 2020, 20:42:50 pm # # Why second............................................................................................ :o You must remember; https://footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Seasons/1962-63/Div31962-63.htm Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 13, 2020, 11:29:18 am https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12048350/efl-announces-2020-21-season-fixtures-released-on-august-21
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on August 16, 2020, 11:53:10 am According to the betting odds we will be relegated in 21st place with Accrington, Wimbledon and Rochdale below us.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on August 16, 2020, 11:59:57 am Pre season friendly with Luton on sat.29th 3pm.
Andy Williams scored for Cheltenham in their 3-1 win yesterday. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 16, 2020, 12:40:46 pm According to the betting odds we will be relegated in 21st place with Accrington, Wimbledon and Rochdale below us. Rarely wrong, ever seen a poor bookie ;DTitle: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on August 16, 2020, 15:11:02 pm Pre season friendly with Luton on sat.29th 3pm. we'll miss Willo.Andy Williams scored for Cheltenham in their 3-1 win yesterday. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on August 16, 2020, 16:48:36 pm According to the betting odds we will be relegated in 21st place with Accrington, Wimbledon and Rochdale below us. Where’s that? In Oddschecker we are evens to be promoted from League 2, which gives an indication where the odds are right now Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on August 16, 2020, 18:33:35 pm Rochdale rank outsiders at 100-1
AFC Wimbledon 66-1 Accrington 50-1 Cobblers 40-1 Swindon, Shrewsbury, Plymouth, Gillingham, Burton and MK all at 33-1 Sunderland favourites 7-1 Peterborough and Portsmouth 10-1 Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on August 16, 2020, 19:55:51 pm Rochdale rank outsiders at 100-1 AFC Wimbledon 66-1 Accrington 50-1 Cobblers 40-1 Swindon, Shrewsbury, Plymouth, Gillingham, Burton and MK all at 33-1 Sunderland favourites 7-1 Peterborough and Portsmouth 10-1 At the risk of repeating myself, where are those odds? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: EB Claret on August 16, 2020, 20:02:25 pm Small league one budget, just like Wycombe!
No big money signings, just like Wycombe! One of the bookies favourites for relegation, just like Wycombe! It's all falling in to place nicely! ;) Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Larry on August 16, 2020, 20:41:10 pm Small league one budget, just like Wycombe! No big money signings, just like Wycombe! One of the bookies favourites for relegation, just like Wycombe! It's all falling in to place nicely! ;) The problem is that there’s plenty of clubs just like Wycombe in the division and a few more just like them but with a bit more money. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 16, 2020, 23:00:03 pm If bookies were that good at predicting outcomes they wouldn’t bother with bookmaking and would become punters, far more lucrative? Apparently it’s merely the science of probability versus heartfelt stupidity and greed? The wife told me that when that particular Avenue of pleasure got closed off, and we all know what will happen if it gets opened up again don’t we?
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Winslow Lee on August 17, 2020, 08:13:34 am The problem is that there’s plenty of clubs just like Wycombe in the division and a few more just like them but with a bit more money. So what if there are a few more teams like Wycombe But with a bit more money in league 1. It didn’t help them last season, Wycombe got promoted they didn’t. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: west stand oap on August 17, 2020, 11:19:06 am Larry, in answer to your question I have seen the same odds quoted by a Crewe supporter on another forum and on Bristol Live amongst others. Available for all to see.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2934 on August 19, 2020, 04:09:09 am It appears Barry Fry is now working with Diane Abbott on player valuations. Whether or not Toney signs for Brentford for £10m, Barry expects that in a couple of years he'll be worth £50-70m. This is good to know, we can now wait a year or two and sell Goode for at least £30m.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 26, 2020, 11:11:15 am https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/efl-confirm-all-matches-will-be-streamed-ifollow-2953109
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/august/ifollow_live/ Good news? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on August 26, 2020, 11:29:39 am I was hoping for an ifollow season ticket, allowing for the usual discount along with not having to pay £10 each time...and giving a much needed boost of money to the club from the % that ifollow give to clubs.
But what do I know? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 26, 2020, 11:44:20 am So season ticket holders will be able to watch games through IFollow at no extra cost...but the club gets no revenue for this above the price already paid for the season ticket?
£10 IFollow match tickets are available to all, and around 70% of IFollows net revenue goes back to the club.....so thats what, £5 or £6 a game? The family who might have paid £60 for match tickets can now sit round a laptop and watch the game and the club gets £6. Better than nothing, but just shows what a hit to clubs this is financially. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 26, 2020, 13:00:37 pm So season ticket holders will be able to watch games through IFollow at no extra cost...but the club gets no revenue for this above the price already paid for the season ticket? It is but there is no refund on your season ticket like last season if this horrible virus continues and all the games are behind closed doors!£10 IFollow match tickets are available to all, and around 70% of IFollows net revenue goes back to the club.....so thats what, £5 or £6 a game? The family who might have paid £60 for match tickets can now sit round a laptop and watch the game and the club gets £6. Better than nothing, but just shows what a hit to clubs this is financially. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 26, 2020, 13:44:33 pm It is but there is no refund on your season ticket like last season if this horrible virus continues and all the games are behind closed doors! in reference to your post, and related somewhat.....did those who requested a refund for last season get anything? What about those who had bought tickets to away games such as Crewe and Cambridge....did they get a refund? I know the club said they wouldn't/couldn't do anything until the ticket office staff returned to work after furlough. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Carton Lid on August 26, 2020, 14:58:31 pm in reference to your post, and related somewhat.....did those who requested a refund for last season get anything? What about those who had bought tickets to away games such as Crewe and Cambridge....did they get a refund? Yes, Christine from the ticket office rang me about my refundsI know the club said they wouldn't/couldn't do anything until the ticket office staff returned to work after furlough. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on August 26, 2020, 15:04:56 pm in reference to your post, and related somewhat.....did those who requested a refund for last season get anything? What about those who had bought tickets to away games such as Crewe and Cambridge....did they get a refund? Did get away ticket refunds tbf, though they refunded me a Cambridge ticket short - and I felt I was being too stingy to ring them up! ;DI know the club said they wouldn't/couldn't do anything until the ticket office staff returned to work after furlough. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 26, 2020, 16:03:28 pm Fair enough....just wondered if they’d got round to it yet, pleased they did.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on August 26, 2020, 19:10:29 pm Yes, I had 40 quid or whatever it was knocked off my sesason ticket for this year
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 27, 2020, 09:25:14 am Ominous......WBA not selling season tickets and transferring any bought this season to next.
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/202021-season-tickets-update Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 27, 2020, 10:01:29 am Ominous......WBA not selling season tickets and transferring any bought this season to next. https://www.wba.co.uk/news/202021-season-tickets-update Pompey have Flexi Tickets at £25, which is like a membership for season ticket holders from last season to be able to purchase their seats on a match by match basis if crowds are re-introduced: https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/ Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2020, 10:09:43 am Fair enough....just wondered if they’d got round to it yet, pleased they did. Actioned some weeks ago! Just used mine towards new ST! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 27, 2020, 10:18:37 am Pompey have Flexi Tickets at £25, which is like a membership for season ticket holders from last season to be able to purchase their seats on a match by match basis if crowds are re-introduced: Now that looks like a great scheme.https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/ I am really not sure when we will be able to watch live football again, apparently you can now catch COVID twice, which pretty much ends the vaccine race? Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: everbrite on August 27, 2020, 17:03:37 pm Now that looks like a great scheme. I am really not sure when we will be able to watch live football again, apparently you can now catch COVID twice, which pretty much ends the vaccine race? Am afraid Old Chum( 8) ) that is basically an unsubstantiated rumour plucked from an equally unreliable French source based on one person. Otherwise you would not have used 'apparently'. Best not to frighten the natives :o All good fun though! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 28, 2020, 08:43:27 am Am afraid Old Chum( 8) ) that is basically an unsubstantiated rumour plucked from an equally unreliable French source based on one person. Otherwise you would not have used 'apparently'. Best not to frighten the natives :o Your right Evers, apparently the man in question had a very low immune system?All good fun though! Who knows, it’s all very bizarre, personally I don’t want to catch it once. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest3338 on August 28, 2020, 09:16:16 am Your right Evers, apparently the man in question had a very low immune system? Was it even the same man?Who knows, it’s all very bizarre, personally I don’t want to catch it once. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Manwork04 on August 28, 2020, 13:29:40 pm Not my usual newspaper but hey ho...........
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8658757/Covid-19-strike-twice-33-year-old-man-Hong-Kong-person-reinfected.html Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2934 on August 28, 2020, 15:02:48 pm Now that looks like a great scheme. I am really not sure when we will be able to watch live football again, apparently you can now catch COVID twice, which pretty much ends the vaccine race? I think your right, a vaccine is a red herring, never going to happen. It's all going to be down to management and bringing about mass rapid testing. The reason why, is that unless everybody in the world takes the same vaccine it's irrelevant. How do you know if somebody has taken the vaccine, a tattoo? Medical passport? Online checks? You cant take somebody's word for it. If I fly back for a big game, maybe have a stop over in Dubai on the way and sit next to you at the game, we score...bedlam. You've got Asian flu! China, Russia, USA they'll never agree to a universal vaccine. I do look worldwide as I have a hotel in Asia, so of course I'm following any announcements from airlines, IATA etc. It's imperative to their futures and millions of jobs they find some kind of solution fast. Confidence is the key here. Until you can almost "check and go" I cant see how there can be large crowds just turning up, even if that is simply down to peoples confidence. I know it's a totally different disease but they claimed they would create a vaccine for Aids forty years ago. The new normal could possibly be that you'll be checked before entering an airport, large event or any confined area with lots of people. Maybe full football grounds from now on will be members only or STH's having passed the clubs medical directive. Very shit but very possible. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: claretparrot on August 28, 2020, 15:30:20 pm I think your right, a vaccine is a red herring, never going to happen. It's all going to be down to management and bringing about mass rapid testing. The reason why, is that unless everybody in the world takes the same vaccine it's irrelevant. How do you know if somebody has taken the vaccine, a tattoo? Medical passport? Online checks? You cant take somebody's word for it. If I fly back for a big game, maybe have a stop over in Dubai on the way and sit next to you at the game, we score...bedlam. You've got Asian flu! China, Russia, USA they'll never agree to a universal vaccine. I do look worldwide as I have a hotel in Asia, so of course I'm following any announcements from airlines, IATA etc. It's imperative to their futures and millions of jobs they find some kind of solution fast. Confidence is the key here. Until you can almost "check and go" I cant see how there can be large crowds just turning up, even if that is simply down to peoples confidence. I know it's a totally different disease but they claimed they would create a vaccine for Aids forty years ago. The new normal could possibly be that you'll be checked before entering an airport, large event or any confined area with lots of people. Maybe full football grounds from now on will be members only or STH's having passed the clubs medical directive. Very shit but very possible. Sorry to keep this one going as it's way off topic, but a couple of points here need addressing. A significant number of vaccines are in stage 3 (final stage) trials. All of these are proven to illicit an immune response and in a couple of cases the scientists already know they are effective - the s3 trials are to prove safety as well as effectiveness. If they all got through, the UK already has enough doses on order to vaccinate everyone in the country plus change. Also, you don't need 'everyone in the world' to use 'the same' vaccine. You don't even need everyone in the world to use a vaccine at all. Get to something like 60-70% and herd immunity will do the rest. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2934 on August 28, 2020, 16:31:12 pm Sorry to keep this one going as it's way off topic, but a couple of points here need addressing. A significant number of vaccines are in stage 3 (final stage) trials. All of these are proven to illicit an immune response and in a couple of cases the scientists already know they are effective - the s3 trials are to prove safety as well as effectiveness. If they all got through, the UK already has enough doses on order to vaccinate everyone in the country plus change. Also, you don't need 'everyone in the world' to use 'the same' vaccine. You don't even need everyone in the world to use a vaccine at all. Get to something like 60-70% and herd immunity will do the rest. So it's when not if, good news! Lets hope were all back in for Boxing day. Fancy the trip to Ispwich. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 28, 2020, 18:56:37 pm So it's when not if, good news! Lets hope were all back in for Boxing day. Fancy the trip to Ispwich. Last time I did Portman Road with The Cobblers we got stuffed 5-0.... Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2934 on August 29, 2020, 01:02:37 am Last time I did Portman Road with The Cobblers we got stuffed 5-0.... I'm sure this lot will put up a better fight for you DC! I went for the league cup game, think we drew the 1st leg, the other time was Ipswich v West Ham, we had played at Colchester, early kick off and won 2-0 one of the coaches went on to Ipswich, Frank McAvennie and Tony Cottee in with West Ham fans, lively! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Athena on September 02, 2020, 10:30:52 am Could someone help/assist me please. I'm trying to set up an 'IFollow' account so I can watch games being streamed to us whilst in this pandemic. I am a season ticket holder and the club states that I should be able to watch these games for free. However when I try to register an account it wants to charge me £10 for the privilege. Am I doing something wrong?? Trying to get my computer set up for the Cardiff game coming up on Saturday. Thanks
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Carton Lid on September 02, 2020, 10:32:42 am Could someone help/assist me please. I'm trying to set up an 'IFollow' account so I can watch games being streamed to us whilst in this pandemic. I am a season ticket holder and the club states that I should be able to watch these games for free. However when I try to register an account it wants to charge me £10 for the privilege. Am I doing something wrong?? Trying to get my computer set up for the Cardiff game coming up on Saturday. Thanks I think the Cardiff game is £10 to STH's has its a League Cup game, but I stand to be correctedTitle: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 02, 2020, 10:40:34 am I think the Cardiff game is £10 to STH's has its a League Cup game, but I stand to be corrected Correct...Cup games are, as usual, outside of the normal season ticket benefits. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Athena on September 02, 2020, 10:45:42 am Thanks for the advice. I had not picked up on it obviously being a cup game. Will set up account therefore and forward my £10 accordingly!!
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Coolcat on September 02, 2020, 10:55:14 am I'm sure this lot will put up a better fight for you DC! Was at the Colchester/Ipswich double header. Bit of a West Ham fan also in those days!I went for the league cup game, think we drew the 1st leg, the other time was Ipswich v West Ham, we had played at Colchester, early kick off and won 2-0 one of the coaches went on to Ipswich, Frank McAvennie and Tony Cottee in with West Ham fans, lively! Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: southofthecounty on September 02, 2020, 11:24:25 am Was at the Colchester/Ipswich double header. Bit of a West Ham fan also in those days! Me too. To have seen Devonshire in his prime. It was a bit rough around UP in those days. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Shoemaker on September 04, 2020, 16:36:35 pm I see Swindon ;D have signed brett pitman
A very good signing for them as he guarantees 15/20 goals a season at this level. I’m surprised we weren’t in for him but I guess it shows we have someone even better lined up. I must say I’m amazed Swindon have bought in such a player without a cup run last year and a million pound sale of a player... Surely we should all be backing them for relegation as points deduction and bankruptcy must surely be on the way..... Mind you we meanwhile have good housekeeping.... Maybe he should have a squad number I’m more excited to think of who our star forward will be. I’m still positive. Come on cobblers you are the best. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: guest2934 on September 05, 2020, 05:37:24 am Was at the Colchester/Ipswich double header. Bit of a West Ham fan also in those days! If I remember correctly in the squeeze with all the Hammers, we got pushed onto the pitch at one point and put into the next enclosure? Fack this, fack that, fackin cants all over the place! Sure it was that game. Bit blurry but great day out after the win at Col U. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on September 05, 2020, 06:33:11 am It’s going to be interesting to see what the starting line up will be today and also who will be on the bench. I think defensively we might be ok especially against a weakened Championship Team but no Adams or Hoskins (And that could continue for the first month or so of the season) just don’t see where the goals will come from.
Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Horsham Cobbler on September 05, 2020, 09:21:54 am It’s going to be interesting to see what the starting line up will be today and also who will be on the bench. I think defensively we might be ok especially against a weakened Championship Team but no Adams or Hoskins (And that could continue for the first month or so of the season) just don’t see where the goals will come from. In these parts we don't call him Private Frazer for nothing. Title: Re: League One 2020-2021 Season Post by: Welly Cobb on September 05, 2020, 09:50:37 am Mills was FGR's top scorer from wing-back, I think he might bang a few. We didn't really have a stand-out scorer last year either, the goals were well-spread, and we had the highest percentage of goals from set pieces from any team in the league, so imagine our centre-backs will probably score a few. That will likely be our best chance until we get a few more in.
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