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Title: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 10, 2020, 10:44:42 am
To start it up...
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/explained-everything-you-need-know-about-january-transfer-window-when-does-it-open-when-does-it-close-what-do-new-restrictions-mean-3062926


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 10, 2020, 20:38:46 pm
Please please please can we send Racic back and get Goode in return on loan.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 10, 2020, 23:25:28 pm
Depends on the budget, but I'd be surprised if there isn't a new centre-back recruit, though Horshall and Bolger seem to have cemented their place now.

Interesting what happens with Holmes and Sheehan - a big part of the resurgence we've had, and both on insecure contracts.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 11, 2020, 14:24:17 pm
I would expect Holmes and Sheehan to have their contracts extended at least to the end of the season similar to Harriman and Anderson last season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 11, 2020, 14:27:51 pm
I would expect Holmes and Sheehan to have their contracts extended at least to the end of the season similar to Harriman and Anderson last season.
We need to maintain good housekeeping so Iíd be surprised.
I think we will probably let them go and bring in a couple of non youth loans in order to keep us afloat


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on December 11, 2020, 14:58:03 pm
We need to maintain good housekeeping so Iíd be surprised.
I think we will probably let them go and bring in a couple of non youth loans in order to keep us afloat
We need to maintain good housekeeping by staying in League 1.
I think we will probably keep BOTH so we can keep afloat.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on December 12, 2020, 02:41:25 am
Sheehan is getting paid a pittance on his current terms but is taking his coaching badges with us...I would have thought he would expect a substantial increase on these. I expect Holmes has speculated to accumulate also but would assume money is not of paramount importance  due to his previous earning power. We still have two free agents training with us and maybe curle will get low earners till the end of the season to bolster the squad. Nutell situation is still in solicitors hands and is on decent money!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 12, 2020, 05:43:12 am
Holmes has pretty much stated his priority is to play as much as possible for as long as possible. He thought his career was finished so the main motivation for him is fairly obvious? With regards to Sheehan I would think that stability and familiarity with a given set up at this point in his career would probably suit him best so I canít see either of them going anywhere? Having said that for different reasons I also said Oliver and Morton would stick with us as well, so youíd be better off listening to the cat?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 12, 2020, 09:46:18 am
Holmes has pretty much stated his priority is to play as much as possible for as long as possible. He thought his career was finished so the main motivation for him is fairly obvious? With regards to Sheehan I would think that stability and familiarity with a given set up at this point in his career would probably suit him best so I canít see either of them going anywhere? Having said that for different reasons I also said Oliver and Morton would stick with us as well, so youíd be better off listening to the cat?
Gillingham will be in for Holmes in January


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 22, 2020, 13:14:29 pm
We will certainly need a new centre half because one esteemed loan has gone back from whence he came .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 22, 2020, 13:27:25 pm
Please please please can we send Racic back and get Goode in return on loan.

You would think that sending Racic back after falling to develop him any, in fact possibly seeing his career take a backward step, would make it highly unlikely that they would then send Goode to us!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on December 22, 2020, 15:14:20 pm
FYI - dated Dec 8th;

https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2020/december/charlie-goode-update-07.12.20/


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on December 22, 2020, 16:00:27 pm
FYI - dated Dec 8th;

https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2020/december/charlie-goode-update-07.12.20/
He played on Saturday against Reading/


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on December 22, 2020, 16:06:23 pm
He played on Saturday against Reading/

He isn't coming here then !

Thanks.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on December 22, 2020, 17:32:49 pm
As if Brentford would loan him back to us anyway  ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on December 22, 2020, 20:55:24 pm
Suggestions on Twitter that we are close to getting Lloyd jones back in whoís still currently a free agent.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 23, 2020, 10:14:03 am
Here it is  :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 23, 2020, 12:07:03 pm
We need to maintain good housekeeping so Iíd be surprised.
I think we will probably let them go and bring in a couple of non youth loans in order to keep us afloat

Proper Doomster arenít you?  Determined to spread discord and despair wherever you go. Clearly no Christmas Cheer in you!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 23, 2020, 12:44:51 pm
Send Mitchell back, Send Racic back

New GK, New CB and an experienced Midfielder please.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 23, 2020, 13:17:50 pm
Send Mitchell back, Send Racic back

New GK, New CB and an experienced Midfielder please.
racic has been sent back


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 23, 2020, 13:29:54 pm
racic has been sent back

Crazy if true and nobody has mentioned it.

You would have thought it would be something the journalists would ask. It baffles me half the time what they get paid to do.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 23, 2020, 14:09:23 pm
Crazy if true and nobody has mentioned it.

You would have thought it would be something the journalists would ask. It baffles me half the time what they get paid to do.
Brown nosing KT, just like they did with his predecessor!
I can still see the article on the official site from Gareth Wiltshire, this guy took a picture of someone in a high vis  jacket in the East Stand claiming work was still going on when it had clearly stopped weeks ago.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 23, 2020, 14:50:49 pm
Thanks Deepcut for putting this in the correct place.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on December 23, 2020, 19:01:57 pm
Crazy if true and nobody has mentioned it.

You would have thought it would be something the journalists would ask. It baffles me half the time what they get paid to do.
Why crazy? Absolute liability on his showing with us!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 23, 2020, 20:48:28 pm
Why crazy? Absolute liability on his showing with us!

Because nobody has confirmed or asked about it...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 23, 2020, 20:50:13 pm
I hope we are not going back in again for David Nugent, scored 1 goal in 24 games since rejoining PNE and they now want him off their books and he is on full pay at home. He is now 35 and when he stated previously that he had spoken to KC a PNE supporter commented that he is knackered after running 10 yards, maybe a slight exaggeration.
On the other hand they have 2 of our former players, both out of contract at the end of the season, who appear to have no future at PNE. Perhaps they would like to loan one out for the rest of the season, Louis Moult and Billy Bodin.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 23, 2020, 21:47:20 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-open-contract-talks-holmes-and-sheehan-3077381


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 23, 2020, 22:22:12 pm
Silly season has definitely begun , apparently we are selling Danny Rose already according to twitter  ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 24, 2020, 08:43:00 am
Silly season has definitely begun , apparently we are selling Danny Rose already according to twitter  ;D ;D

While I agree that thereís probably zero validity in the rumour, if someone did come in for him then it might make sense to get rid. The squad is massively unbalanced for the formation we play. We have a large amount of small tricky attacking players but a big lack of quality, numbers and cover in other positions, so him moving on would give us more room to bring in players in these problem positions.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 24, 2020, 09:46:11 am
Players i think we should try and move on.
Mitchell- no better than Arnie
Horsfall- not league one standard, not sure heís even league two to be honest.
Harriman- great effort but gets beaten time and time again defending.
Martin - enough said.
Racic- non league at best GONE  ;D
Missalou - a black version of Hoskins runs around a lot with zero quality.
Benny Ashley SEAL - great comedy value as he spends the entire match on the floor but not what we need.
Korboa - just too bigger gap from where he came from to L1.

I think we need at least a minimum of 4 league one or above quality players
Right back
Center half
Center midfielder
Striker.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 24, 2020, 10:25:34 am
Players i think we should try and move on.
Mitchell- no better than Arnie
Horsfall- not league one standard, not sure heís even league two to be honest.
Harriman- great effort but gets beaten time and time again defending.
Martin - enough said.
Racic- non league at best GONE  ;D
Missalou - a black version of Hoskins runs around a lot with zero quality.
Benny Ashley SEAL - great comedy value as he spends the entire match on the floor but not what we need.
Korboa - just too bigger gap from where he came from to L1.

I think we need at least a minimum of 4 league one or above quality players
Right back
Center half
Center midfielder
Striker.


Wouldnít that leave the problem I said before of too many small tricky attacking players (Adams, Marshall, Hoskins, Holmes, Rose) None of who have the defensive ability to play wing back at this level, especially with the lack of quality at central defence. personally I would like to see Holmes stay and with Chucks looking a good prospect I would look to move on at least any two of the others.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 24, 2020, 10:45:43 am
Players i think we should try and move on.
Horsfall- not league one standard, not sure heís even league two to be honest.
Harriman- great effort but gets beaten time and time again defending.
Missalou - a black version of Hoskins runs around a lot with zero quality.
Benny Ashley SEAL - great comedy value as he spends the entire match on the floor but not what we need.
Korboa - just too bigger gap from where he came from to L1.

Very harsh on these to be honest,

Whilst I partially agree with the appraisal of their performances so far I just don't think its time to get rod just yet.

As for the loan players we don't have time to wait for other peoples players to improve at the moment.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 24, 2020, 10:47:57 am
especially with the lack of quality at central defence.

I think this hits the nail on the head. You can play 3 at the back and have a winger bombing on from wing back if you have a solid base behind him and a center back on that side who is as comfortable coming wide as they are in the center.

We don't have that at the moment, Adams and MArshall Bombing on leaves our already suspect back line exposed.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 24, 2020, 11:22:39 am
Players i think we should try and move on.
Mitchell- no better than Arnie
Horsfall- not league one standard, not sure heís even league two to be honest.
Harriman- great effort but gets beaten time and time again defending.
Martin - enough said.
Racic- non league at best GONE  ;D
Missalou - a black version of Hoskins runs around a lot with zero quality.
Benny Ashley SEAL - great comedy value as he spends the entire match on the floor but not what we need.
Korboa - just too bigger gap from where he came from to L1.

I think we need at least a minimum of 4 league one or above quality players
Right back
Center half
Center midfielder
Striker.


As you know Manny, Iím not keen on spending money, but if I was thatís a fairly decent appraisal. Need a centre half and a midfield general. Also need a class striker but thatís a bit like asking to win the lottery? Iím still advocating spending nothing but if we do thatís where it needs to go.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 24, 2020, 12:19:50 pm
I know in the other locked threads, there was reports of Lloyds Jones finally signing (if Racic has been returned on loan, then I assume the wages are freed up to do that, unless we've finally sorted the Nuttall situation).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 24, 2020, 12:25:52 pm
I know in the other locked threads, there was reports of Lloyds Jones finally signing (if Racic has been returned on loan, then I assume the wages are freed up to do that, unless we've finally sorted the Nuttall situation).

Not sure how he fits into the "quality additions" we are looking for..... he played 7 games for us in League 2, we lost 5 of those, he picked up two yellow cards. Hasn't played a game since that last game with us in March.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on December 24, 2020, 12:36:41 pm
Players i think we should try and move on.
Mitchell- no better than Arnie
Horsfall- not league one standard, not sure heís even league two to be honest.
Harriman- great effort but gets beaten time and time again defending.
Martin - enough said.
Racic- non league at best GONE  ;D
Missalou - a black version of Hoskins runs around a lot with zero quality.
Benny Ashley SEAL - great comedy value as he spends the entire match on the floor but not what we need.
Korboa - just too bigger gap from where he came from to L1.

I think we need at least a minimum of 4 league one or above quality players
Right back
Center half
Center midfielder
Striker.


Of these, I would keep
Horsfall (as cover)
Harriman (played many reasonable games)
Martin (he's played better than many give credit for imo)
Korboa (can't blame the lad for having to play with so little support, needs developing)
BAS (I think there's a player in there somwhere)

I can't believe you haven't included Smith in the get rid list. I've only ever seen 2 CFs in the entire history of the Cobblers who have maybe had so limited ability. If people say, well he's scored most of our few goals in recent games, I would add that any non league CF would have scored those and probably one or two more. Powder puff comes to mind.
Obvious priorities are commanding CB (with passing ability) and CF.

 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 24, 2020, 12:48:49 pm
Not sure how he fits into the "quality additions" we are looking for..... he played 7 games for us in League 2, we lost 5 of those, he picked up two yellow cards. Hasn't played a game since that last game with us in March.
Thatíll be our sort of signing  :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 24, 2020, 13:04:46 pm
Not sure how he fits into the "quality additions" we are looking for..... he played 7 games for us in League 2, we lost 5 of those, he picked up two yellow cards. Hasn't played a game since that last game with us in March.
Lloyd Jones wasnít deemed good enough for a starting place in L2 why on earth would he now be good enough for L1?.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 24, 2020, 14:45:30 pm
Lloyd Jones wasnít deemed good enough for a starting place in L2 why on earth would he now be good enough for L1?.
I wonder


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on December 24, 2020, 17:25:31 pm
Think Racic, Nuttall and Martin are all up for lifetime achievement awards...I'll leave it to you to figure out the category!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on December 24, 2020, 19:44:45 pm
Hoped to see some sensible transfer discussion on here then realised Shoemaker is still about.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 24, 2020, 20:12:19 pm
Hoped to see some sensible transfer discussion on here then realised Shoemaker is still about.
Who was down for talks at sixfields this week... ;)

Iím sure other posters know
I however wouldnít dream of sharing sensible transfer info....

Came from the same bloke who told me about sowersby who I first mentioned on here before anybody else....

Oh and which player who splits opinion is on his way out....??

Il leave it all to the sensible posters  ;)



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on December 24, 2020, 20:34:57 pm
Of these, I would keep
Horsfall (as cover)
Harriman (played many reasonable games)
Martin (he's played better than many give credit for imo)
Korboa (can't blame the lad for having to play with so little support, needs developing)
BAS (I think there's a player in there somwhere)

I can't believe you haven't included Smith in the get rid list. I've only ever seen 2 CFs in the entire history of the Cobblers who have maybe had so limited ability. If people say, well he's scored most of our few goals in recent games, I would add that any non league CF would have scored those and probably one or two more. Powder puff comes to mind.
Obvious priorities are commanding CB (with passing ability) and CF.

 

BAS got a three year deal, Horsfall a two year deal, Smith has another season after this.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on December 24, 2020, 20:57:16 pm
We signed BAS on a 3 year deal?
Thought the max we ran to was 2 years!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on December 24, 2020, 21:06:38 pm
Ignore that Iím half pissed it was two years! Funny that he started for Wolves against Man Utd in the FA Cup. Hard to believe.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 24, 2020, 21:10:37 pm
Who was down for talks at sixfields this week... ;)

Iím sure other posters know
I however wouldnít dream of sharing sensible transfer info....

Came from the same bloke who told me about sowersby who I first mentioned on here before anybody else....

Oh and which player who splits opinion is on his way out....??

Il leave it all to the sensible posters  ;)



You may have got Sowerby but what about all the other names you mentioned that proved incorrect?  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 24, 2020, 21:15:53 pm
We signed BAS on a 3 year deal?
Thought the max we ran to was 2 years!

It was reported as a 2 year deal. Danny Rose was also signed on a 2 year deal but with an option of a 3rd year.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 24, 2020, 21:20:15 pm
You may have got Sowerby but what about all the other names you mentioned that proved incorrect?  ;)
The Luton lad Jones is a done deal but thatís all youíll get this time around......

We need to sign better players in order to stay up....

Itís a big hill to climb but we may hit the target  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 24, 2020, 21:27:14 pm
The Luton lad Jones is a done deal but thatís all youíll get this time around......

We need to sign better players in order to stay up....

Itís a big hill to climb but we may hit the target  ;)

Done deal as in 1st January?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 24, 2020, 21:29:02 pm
It was reported as a 2 year deal. Danny Rose was also signed on a 2 year deal but with an option of a 3rd year.

Korboa was another option signing. He signed a 1 year deal with the option of a 2nd year.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 24, 2020, 21:31:16 pm

Came from the same bloke who told me about sowersby who I first mentioned on here before anybody else....
Alan Nixon (boss of goss) in the Sun reported back in the summer that we had bid £165,000 for Sowersby, but it was rejected.
Thats a lot for us. Anybody know what we paid? Come on Shoey.







Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 24, 2020, 21:49:09 pm
Alan Nixon (boss of goss) in the Sun reported back in the summer that we had bid £165,000 for Sowersby, but it was rejected.
Thats a lot for us. Anybody know what we paid? Come on Shoey.






No idea sorry


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 26, 2020, 16:47:23 pm
Curles take on the January window.....

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/keith-curle-discusses-his-january-transfer-plans-3078995

He goes on about a "squad of 22"...so lets look at where we are....

GK: Arnold, Mitchell (2)
DF: Harriman, Martin, Sheehan, Bolger, Horsfall, Racic, Mills, Dyche ( 8 )
MF: Sowerby, Watson, Adams, Pollock, Lines, McWilliams, Missilou, Marshall ( 8 )
FW: Hoskins, Smith, Korboa, Homes, Ashley-Seal, Rose, Chukwuemeka (7)

So thats 25, which doesn't include the likes of Nuttall, Warburton, Roberts....

He says about some players leaving......who is on the way out? Racic would look to be returning to Brentford, but who else? Could we be losing 6 or 7 to get four decent players in?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 26, 2020, 17:00:18 pm
He seems to already be suggesting that we will be playing a waiting game, Iím not expecting much and if Iím pleasantly surprised, so be it. Having MacWilliams back will be like securing a new player I guess.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 26, 2020, 17:02:26 pm
I got a couple of jigsaws for Xmas, must admit having an end picture to work to is really helping. I wonder if Keith has got such a picture for his jigsaw, if so what does it look like?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 26, 2020, 17:25:50 pm
Curles take on the January window.....

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/keith-curle-discusses-his-january-transfer-plans-3078995

He goes on about a "squad of 22"...so lets look at where we are....

GK: Arnold, Mitchell (2)
DF: Harriman, Martin, Sheehan, Bolger, Horsfall, Racic, Mills, Dyche ( 8 )
MF: Sowerby, Watson, Adams, Pollock, Lines, McWilliams, Missilou, Marshall ( 8 )
FW: Hoskins, Smith, Korboa, Homes, Ashley-Seal, Rose, Chukwuemeka (7)

So thats 25, which doesn't include the likes of Nuttall, Warburton, Roberts....

He says about some players leaving......who is on the way out? Racic would look to be returning to Brentford, but who else? Could we be losing 6 or 7 to get four decent players in?

I don't think he'll be including academy players Dyche & Chukwuemeka. Then Racic maybe returning to Brentford, that leaves 22.

Martin & Lines at least to be moved on, I would have thought.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 27, 2020, 11:16:39 am
When you see the squad written down like that they look so poor and lacking in quality itís untrue.
The only quality we have have the combined age of 150 Holmes, Adams, Marshall and Sheehan.
These players are just not good enough, Harriman, Horsfall, Korboa, BAS, Racic, Missalou, Warburton and Roberts I could also add the likes of Hoskins, Martin, Smith and Lines, I donít think any of these players would get into any other team in this division.
Turnbull, Oliver and Wharton would walk into it.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2020, 11:21:37 am
Turnball can't get into the Salford team.

Wharton, Goode & Oliver, I agree, they certainly would.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 27, 2020, 11:41:04 am
Turnball can't get into the Salford team.

Wharton, Goode & Oliver, I agree, they certainly would.

I'd have Turnball back in a heartbeat. He was the most cultured centre back we had last season and I include Goode in that.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 27, 2020, 11:43:47 am
I'd have Turnball back in a heartbeat. He was the most cultured centre back we had last season and I include Goode in that.
In case people have forgotten we needed to get him off the wage bill and replace him with cheaper options.
We need to lower expectations


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on December 27, 2020, 11:45:09 am
Thereís certainly mixed messages coming from the club - KT saying that we need to bring League 1 quality players in and indirectly panning the summer recruitment and then KC giving it the usual spiel saying that January is a  difficult window, itís a waiting game, putting together a jigsaw blah blah. Perhaps heís being coy and covering up that he has money to spend but I doubt it. At the very least he needs to bring 2 or 3 quality loans in but these donít grow on trees and the majority of decent possibilities will be out on loan already. I still canít work out whatís going on with Lloyd Jones - if heís unattached and has been training with us for weeks/months then why havenít we already taken him on as a free agent? I know that his mate who was posting on here suggested that his agent moved the goalposts at the last minute in the summer and started making unrealistic financial demands but itís unlikely that will have changed as they now have us over a barrel and they know weíre desperate.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2020, 11:55:47 am
Irchy - Shoemaker says it's a done deal (Lloyd Jones) so watch this space  >:D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on December 27, 2020, 12:09:39 pm
Irchy - Shoemaker says it's a done deal (Lloyd Jones) so watch this space  >:D

I donít doubt that it probably is a done deal as itís the kind of underwhelming signing we are likely to make - as others have said the fact that his loan spell was less than impressive and the fact that he hasnít kicked a ball since speaks volumes to his and our ambitions. The only hope Iím hanging on is that his mate who posted on here was adamant that his brief spell here wasnít representative of his true ability but heís going to be rusty as hell and is also going to be playing alongside Bolger and Horsfall which isnít exactly the same as playing with Goode, Wharton and Turnbull.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 27, 2020, 12:38:12 pm
Irchy - Shoemaker says it's a done deal (Lloyd Jones) so watch this space  >:D
Iíd be more worried about those that are leaving......


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2020, 12:42:50 pm
Iíd be more worried about those that are leaving......

Please let on?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 27, 2020, 14:04:35 pm
I would not be surprised to see either Marshall or Adams leave as they have only shown brief glimpsies of what they are capable of and neither are good enough defensively to play wing back. Marshall gave the ball away for Doncaster's first goal and gave away the stupid free kick which led to Lincoln's second goal. I think he is only still here because he chose to take up the option, in his contract, of a second season. I don't think KC would have taken up the option as he has rarely selected him in the starting 11. Perhaps we are also now seeing why Adams has remained a second division player despite being in several promotion winning sides as so far he has not made the step up and are creativity has been sadly lacking for most of the season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 27, 2020, 14:19:01 pm
Please let on?
Il leave things to those in the know  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2020, 14:22:56 pm
Il leave things to those in the know  ;)

You're confusing me Shoey. So are you in the know or not?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on December 27, 2020, 14:35:31 pm
Iíd be more worried about those that are leaving......

Itís a sad indictment of the current squad to say that I honestly would not be bothered if any of the current players were to leave with the possible exceptions being McWilliams and Sowerby - in fact Iíd be amazed if other clubs actually want any of them as we havenít exactly got any assets to speak of. I would be excited by the possibility of Pollock getting fit but we know that Curle doesnít really trust the young players - even last season when Pollock put a good run together he still was in and out.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on December 27, 2020, 14:45:33 pm
I would not be surprised to see either Marshall or Adams leave as they have only shown brief glimpsies of what they are capable of and neither are good enough defensively to play wing back. .
The thing is that nether Adams or Marshall ARE wingbacks and I don't think either of them claim to be wingbacks, throughout both of their careers they have been wingers. The problem is that KC plays lots of players out of their natural position and then wonders why they look a little lost. I think with both of them you either play them as wingers or you don't play them at all, but I do think that both of them could be useful to us as wingers. Whilst we are on about positions, Korboa is not a midfielder, Hoskins' best position by far is in the "Number 10" role behind the strikers, he always puts the effort in but when you finish a game with Super Sam at centre back you really do have to question who thought that was a good idea


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on December 27, 2020, 14:52:37 pm
I hate to write him off as heís been a great servant but I think Adams has lost a yard, probably due to injuries, and he now seems unable to beat his man to put a cross in. His set piece delivery is also not as good as it was but it probably doesnít help when Bolger and Horsfall are the targets as opposed to Goode and Wharton. Marshall still seems to have a bit of pace but not much - as Carton points out both are totally exposed at wing back. Hopefully Mills will be fit again soon to slot in at left wingback but we need someone on the right.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on December 27, 2020, 15:45:04 pm
The thing is that nether Adams or Marshall ARE wingbacks and I don't think either of them claim to be wingbacks, throughout both of their careers they have been wingers. The problem is that KC plays lots of players out of their natural position and then wonders why they look a little lost. I think with both of them you either play them as wingers or you don't play them at all, but I do think that both of them could be useful to us as wingers. Whilst we are on about positions, Korboa is not a midfielder, Hoskins' best position by far is in the "Number 10" role behind the strikers, he always puts the effort in but when you finish a game with Super Sam at centre back you really do have to question who thought that was a good idea
Doesn't this just sum up KC's abilities as a manager? Forget about dumping present players or recruiting new ones. Get rid of the manager, or we'll just end up with a crop of decent players who lose most games.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 27, 2020, 16:12:13 pm
You're confusing me Shoey. So are you in the know or not?
If you read this thread apparently not !!!
I hear bits n bobs from a source who would need to know whose signing.....

I donít hear everything by any means but I have a 100% full proof source....

Thatís how I knew sowerby and rose were signing...
I posted those and people start to wet themselves about it  ::)

I have no ego whatsoever and I donít need it massaging Iím just in a position to know the man who has to know.....

This board is full of bitter people who wet themselves if you know something they donít and then have a dig at you over it.

Iím happy to sit back and watch people have a guess without having to join in the circus....

All il say is people have been in and people have been told to look elsewhere.
Iíve heard a couple of bits but unfortunately imo the only thing Iíd advise is a price on relegation if one is available.

Il look on and see if anyone has heard anything.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 27, 2020, 16:24:35 pm
If you read this thread apparently not !!!
I hear bits n bobs from a source who would need to know whose signing.....

I donít hear everything by any means but I have a 100% full proof source....

Thatís how I knew sowerby and rose were signing...
I posted those and people start to wet themselves about it  ::)

I have no ego whatsoever and I donít need it massaging Iím just in a position to know the man who has to know.....

This board is full of bitter people who wet themselves if you know something they donít and then have a dig at you over it.

Iím happy to sit back and watch people have a guess without having to join in the circus....

All il say is people have been in and people have been told to look elsewhere.
Iíve heard a couple of bits but unfortunately imo the only thing Iíd advise is a price on relegation if one is available.

Il look on and see if anyone has heard anything.

Thanks for clearing that up. So, you might know something some of the time. A bit like most people on this forum.

Unless you're ntfclad, who seems to have gone missing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on December 27, 2020, 16:52:01 pm
I think the only people who have provided genuine transfer news before it has happened are ntfclad and Yayo bayo (presumably because his brother is mates with Lloyd Jones) and like TP says both have gone awol. Iím still not sure which players we are supposed to be in despair at possibly losing according to Shoeyís cryptic posts?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 27, 2020, 17:04:52 pm
Thanks for clearing that up. So, you might know something some of the time. A bit like most people on this forum.

Unless you're ntfclad, who seems to have gone missing.
I should really know a lot more but as Iím in the extremely vulnerable category I donít get to see the person who knows very often now....
I do get the heads up from someone who does though.

If we use an ounce of realism it seems we need to shift out before players come in and I envisage the usual free transfers and youth loans
As for waiting until the end of the window that sounds desperate to me and another case of seeing whatís left over.
The fact is we could be more or less relegated by February and yet there seems no rush or effort to being in the quality needed from January the first....
How many points could we lose in the month of January waiting to see whatís left over.
This is purely my take on things having read Keithís interview.
To me if the board really wanted to stay in this division then theyíd have players in the door as soon as the window opens....
They havenít and are more bothered about getting players off the books by the sound of things

It doesnít inspire me with confidence and Iím sure many fans will start wondering why quality players arenít arriving whilst we continue to get tonked week in week out....

You can have as many people as you like in for talks  ;)
Itís another thing having the will to sign them....

FWIW we are nowhere near the 2.5M salary cap so any limitations are self imposed.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 13:47:52 pm
Interesting interview with Keith today who has stated that the cobblers wonít be making any expensive signings in January as clubs struggle with the impact of COVID...

Well blow me down who wouldíve thought it ..... ::)

That housekeeping award is in the bag and so is an instant return to league two.

Get your bets on now!!!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on December 28, 2020, 13:53:20 pm
Interesting interview with Keith today who has stated that the cobblers wonít be making any expensive signings in January as clubs struggle with the impact of COVID...

Well blow me down who wouldíve thought it ..... ::)

That housekeeping award is in the bag and so is an instant return to league two.

Get your bets on now!!!!

Happy F*@king New Year to You Too :(


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on December 28, 2020, 14:09:03 pm
Interesting interview with Keith today who has stated that the cobblers wonít be making any expensive signings in January as clubs struggle with the impact of COVID...

Well blow me down who wouldíve thought it ..... ::)

That housekeeping award is in the bag and so is an instant return to league two.

Get your bets on now!!!!
Isn't it easy spending other peoples money Shoemaker? Have you spotted the flaw in your repetative opinion?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 14:14:51 pm
Happy F*@king New Year to You Too :(
Donít shoot the messenger ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 14:18:54 pm
Isn't it easy spending other peoples money Shoemaker? Have you spotted the flaw in your repetative opinion?
Try making some money instead
Relegation odds 4/6

This squad is a certainty to go down itís frankly worse than the league two squad.
Keithís telling you the score but I guess many wonít like to hear the truth.

4/6 is a fantastic price
Put a lump on and it can soften the blow for the return to the basement division



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on December 28, 2020, 14:34:05 pm
Interesting interview with Keith today who has stated that the cobblers wonít be making any expensive signings in January as clubs struggle with the impact of COVID...

But KT said last week that we would be bringing in "League 1 class players" , hasn't he told Keith?   


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 14:50:20 pm
But KT said last week that we would be bringing in "League 1 class players" , hasn't he told Keith?   
Itís comedy gold isnít it??
One says we are bringing in league one quality
The other says we arenít but may wait and do some last minute business with whatís left over !!

What hope is there when the chairman and manager canít even agree as regards transfer policy??


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 28, 2020, 15:16:38 pm
Itís comedy gold isnít it??
One says we are bringing in league one quality
The other says we arenít but may wait and do some last minute business with whatís left over !!

What hope is there when the chairman and manager canít even agree as regards transfer policy??

Who is the chairman? Has Keith swapped places with Kelvin?  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 15:29:55 pm
Who is the chairman? Has Keith swapped places with Kelvin?  ;D
Itís hard to know who is in charge
One thing is for sure there seems to be no coherent transfer policy.

I still stand by the assumption that the board cannot afford to run the club as a league one concern
They canít afford to sack Keith

It really begs the question what is the point?
We go down to league two and the begging letters for season tickets go out but in reality even the most claret tinted spectacle wearer can see that even if we did manage a promotion we couldnít actually compete in league one.
All this whilst looking at a not fit for purpose un-started redevelopment.

I honestly have the same feeling now that I had when DC was in charge and that is that the club is going nowhere on and off the pitch.

Sorry for being pessimistic/realistic but thatís how I feel
Different faces but no progress.

Promise little
Deliver big

Seems like years ago.....
Hang on
It was years ago.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 28, 2020, 15:42:34 pm
Itís hard to know who is in charge
One thing is for sure there seems to be no coherent transfer policy.

I still stand by the assumption that the board cannot afford to run the club as a league one concern
They canít afford to sack Keith

It really begs the question what is the point?
We go down to league two and the begging letters for season tickets go out but in reality even the most claret tinted spectacle wearer can see that even if we did manage a promotion we couldnít actually compete in league one.
All this whilst looking at a not fit for purpose un-started redevelopment.

I honestly have the same feeling now that I had when DC was in charge and that is that the club is going nowhere on and off the pitch.

Sorry for being pessimistic/realistic but thatís how I feel
Different faces but no progress.

Promise little
Deliver big

Seems like years ago.....
Hang on
It was years ago.

Imagine you working for the make a wish foundation


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 15:52:05 pm
Imagine you working for the make a wish foundation
Iíd wish we had wealthier owners and were playing in a 20,000 seater stadium looking forward to a rosy future.....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 28, 2020, 15:56:32 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 16:04:43 pm
Imagine you working for the make a wish foundation
Is there a lot wrong with my supposition of where we are now compared to the pre meltdown days of DC though
I canít see things are that different
Both chairman had racked up large debt, both were funding the club to a certain level while waiting for progress on a land deal whilst not starting on redeveloping the ground , both were unable to run us as a league one club without extra investment whilst not attracting any extra investment.

I just feel Iíve been here before only this time I hope we donít go into administration.

Thatís why I have zero expectation that any quality players will be signed(as does the manager) and it will be straight back down where we can go round and round again.

Itís all very well knocking/belittling my opinion but rather than go down that road why not add to the debate by explaining what points you disagree with??

Does anyone realistically expect the board to back Keith with four or five quality signings to keep us up?
What aspirations do other posters have?
Has anyone else got any aspirations for this season whatsoever?

Only a few days till the window opens and we have a chance to save our season....
Exciting times ??



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on December 28, 2020, 16:14:39 pm
Try making some money instead
Relegation odds 4/6

This squad is a certainty to go down itís frankly worse than the league two squad.
Keithís telling you the score but I guess many wonít like to hear the truth.

4/6 is a fantastic price
Put a lump on and it can soften the blow for the return to the basement division



What sort of supporter bets on their own team to get relegated?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 28, 2020, 16:18:35 pm
With respect Shoey - The last time we were in league one under JFH the chairman did back him and look where that got us. There are no guarantees in football, some were moaning at the signing of Morton last January and we all know what we achieved with the help of his signing.      


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblersmad on December 28, 2020, 16:30:59 pm
Is there a lot wrong with my supposition of where we are now compared to the pre meltdown days of DC though
I canít see things are that different
Both chairman had racked up large debt, both were funding the club to a certain level while waiting for progress on a land deal whilst not starting on redeveloping the ground , both were unable to run us as a league one club without extra investment whilst not attracting any extra investment.

I just feel Iíve been here before only this time I hope we donít go into administration.

Thatís why I have zero expectation that any quality players will be signed(as does the manager) and it will be straight back down where we can go round and round again.

Itís all very well knocking/belittling my opinion but rather than go down that road why not add to the debate by explaining what points you disagree with??

Does anyone realistically expect the board to back Keith with four or five quality signings to keep us up?
What aspirations do other posters have?
Has anyone else got any aspirations for this season whatsoever?

Only a few days till the window opens and we have a chance to save our season....
Exciting times ??



Don't you ever get bored of logging on here every day and typing the same sort of downcast and deadbeat message every day in every thread?

There's having a good debate with a fellow poster with different opinions, then there's you.

Can the mods not do anything? It's starting to affect my enjoyment of looking on here. Sure I'm not alone in that view either.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 28, 2020, 16:32:05 pm
Interesting interview with Keith today who has stated that the cobblers wonít be making any expensive signings in January as clubs struggle with the impact of COVID...

Well blow me down who wouldíve thought it ..... ::)

That housekeeping award is in the bag and so is an instant return to league two.

Get your bets on now!!!!

You have got  to have friends in high places to get away with posts like that?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on December 28, 2020, 17:06:59 pm
You have got  to have friends in high places to get away with posts like that?
I think 4/6 is good value odds for relegation given our current squad
Is that not a valid opinion
I may be wrong and we may stay up but I think the overriding opinion of the majority of fans , the chairman (who admitted us much the other day in his interview) and the manager is that we need some more quality in order to stay up.
Yes Iím disillusioned regards things right now and itís not my intention to depress others who have a much more upbeat opinion of the current situation.

As such Iíve decided not only to stop attending matches until the ground is finished but also to stop posting on this forum until such time that I attend matches again (in which case the ground will be finished)

Iím sure somewhere along the line things will be better and the ground completed and I hope kelvin and the board find some extra investment to help the club and somehow manage to turn a profit on their investment.

Iíve enjoyed posting on here over many years but itís best to leave it to those who attend the matches and part with their hard earned cash.

Iím sure the forum will be a much rosier place with only positive posts regardless of wherever the club finds itself.

Iíve attended meetings to save the club, put in buckets to keep it going , held up my we want answers banners etc over the years but nowadays I feel that itís best left to the eternal optimists such as yourself Tony in the hope that your optimism will lead to a better future and a completed stadium.

My healthís not great but I do hope that one day I may get to watch ntfc again but as of now thereís no timescale.

Iíve even got to the point where Iím not really enjoying the game at any level any more (too much politicisation in sport for my liking)

The one hope is that as the town and county expands the club may expand with it and future generations have a chance to enjoy a local football club.

Anyway thanks to everyone for the banter down the years and I promise not to post on here until the ground is finished.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all stay safe and are able to get back to watching football as soon as is possible.

To anyone Iíve disagreed/ upset over the years i apologise and thanks to the many of you whoíve made me chuckle.

Anyone who supports/has supported the club over the years deserves a medal and I hope you all get the success your support deserves.

Thanks for being a big part of my life and UP THE COBBLERS

I hope the signings in January lead to an on field revival

Best wishes
Shoey


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on December 28, 2020, 17:37:46 pm
Being concise and succinct is a virtue!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 28, 2020, 18:31:30 pm
What sort of supporter bets on their own team to get relegated?
Those that are realistic, and wish to make a profit?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 28, 2020, 18:42:32 pm
Don't you ever get bored of logging on here every day and typing the same sort of downcast and deadbeat message every day in every thread?

There's having a good debate with a fellow poster with different opinions, then there's you.

Can the mods not do anything? It's starting to affect my enjoyment of looking on here. Sure I'm not alone in that view either.

Just do what I do now - skip any post from Shoey or any post quoting one of his. They are easy to spot due to the slightly odd paragraph structure he uses.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 28, 2020, 18:47:20 pm
I think 4/6 is good value odds for relegation given our current squad
Is that not a valid opinion
I may be wrong and we may stay up but I think the overriding opinion of the majority of fans , the chairman (who admitted us much the other day in his interview) and the manager is that we need some more quality in order to stay up.
Yes Iím disillusioned regards things right now and itís not my intention to depress others who have a much more upbeat opinion of the current situation.

As such Iíve decided not only to stop attending matches until the ground is finished but also to stop posting on this forum until such time that I attend matches again (in which case the ground will be finished)

Iím sure somewhere along the line things will be better and the ground completed and I hope kelvin and the board find some extra investment to help the club and somehow manage to turn a profit on their investment.

Iíve enjoyed posting on here over many years but itís best to leave it to those who attend the matches and part with their hard earned cash.

Iím sure the forum will be a much rosier place with only positive posts regardless of wherever the club finds itself.

Iíve attended meetings to save the club, put in buckets to keep it going , held up my we want answers banners etc over the years but nowadays I feel that itís best left to the eternal optimists such as yourself Tony in the hope that your optimism will lead to a better future and a completed stadium.

My healthís not great but I do hope that one day I may get to watch ntfc again but as of now thereís no timescale.

Iíve even got to the point where Iím not really enjoying the game at any level any more (too much politicisation in sport for my liking)

The one hope is that as the town and county expands the club may expand with it and future generations have a chance to enjoy a local football club.

Anyway thanks to everyone for the banter down the years and I promise not to post on here until the ground is finished.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all stay safe and are able to get back to watching football as soon as is possible.

To anyone Iíve disagreed/ upset over the years i apologise and thanks to the many of you whoíve made me chuckle.

Anyone who supports/has supported the club over the years deserves a medal and I hope you all get the success your support deserves.

Thanks for being a big part of my life and UP THE COBBLERS

I hope the signings in January lead to an on field revival

Best wishes
Shoey

In many ways quite an eloquent message; the trouble is that at times you appear to goad those who live in hope and call it a realistic POV. In my opinion you do more harm than good with repetitive messages of doom and despair; must effect you too. Am aware of your ill health and can only hope you get better.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on December 28, 2020, 19:11:28 pm
Try making some money instead
Relegation odds 4/6

This squad is a certainty to go down itís frankly worse than the league two squad.
Keithís telling you the score but I guess many wonít like to hear the truth.

4/6 is a fantastic price
Put a lump on and it can soften the blow for the return to the basement division



Post your details up here. Let's see what you have on.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 28, 2020, 19:12:27 pm
So to be clear, about half the upcoming fixtures have been postponed and the remaining list for the season is becoming untenable? Covid is apparently running rampant in the UK with a more vital strain and football is to all intent and purposes back to behind closed doors for the foreseeable future? Yet the advice from some is the club is in chaos because there appears to be some ďuncertaintyĒ on how to progress? Further to this apparently the advice is also to bet on relegation, off load half the squad and recruit some big money signings? I used to have a lovely head of hair, unfortunately I have just ripped it out with my bare hands and thrust the shiny pallet through our plaster board wall. To be fair there was some decent advice, off load half the squad! However, recruit no one and put the youth team out for any remaining games as far as I am concerned. Curle and Thomas havenít a coherent transfer policy? Iíll bet the poor sods are standing in their offices with mad staring eyes spinning on the spot? Anyone in football who has any sort of coherent policy about anything at the moment must have a backbone of tungsten!

Joking aside, on a separate note, all the best to you Shoey, come back soon mate. The bigger the range of perspectives the better as far as I am concerned? I might firmly disagree with a lot of your opinion but you may just prove to be right and I might turn out to be an idiot? It wouldnít be the first time either.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 28, 2020, 19:37:19 pm
Alan Sheehan signs contract until the end of the season in a player/coach role.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 28, 2020, 20:19:49 pm
So to be clear, about half the upcoming fixtures have been postponed and the remaining list for the season is becoming untenable? Covid is apparently running rampant in the UK with a more vital strain and football is to all intent and purposes back to behind closed doors for the foreseeable future? Yet the advice from some is the club is in chaos because there appears to be some ďuncertaintyĒ on how to progress? Further to this apparently the advice is also to bet on relegation, off load half the squad and recruit some big money signings? I used to have a lovely head of hair, unfortunately I have just ripped it out with my bare hands and thrust the shiny pallet through our plaster board wall. To be fair there was some decent advice, off load half the squad! However, recruit no one and put the youth team out for any remaining games as far as I am concerned. Curle and Thomas havenít a coherent transfer policy? Iíll bet the poor sods are standing in their offices with mad staring eyes spinning on the spot? Anyone in football who has any sort of coherent policy about anything at the moment must have a backbone of tungsten!

Joking aside, on a separate note, all the best to you Shoey, come back soon mate. The bigger the range of perspectives the better as far as I am concerned? I might firmly disagree with a lot of your opinion but you may just prove to be right and I might turn out to be an idiot? It wouldnít be the first time either.
We should spunk everything we have on Nugent.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on December 28, 2020, 21:16:13 pm
I think 4/6 is good value odds for relegation given our current squad
Is that not a valid opinion
I may be wrong and we may stay up but I think the overriding opinion of the majority of fans , the chairman (who admitted us much the other day in his interview) and the manager is that we need some more quality in order to stay up.
Yes Iím disillusioned regards things right now and itís not my intention to depress others who have a much more upbeat opinion of the current situation.

As such Iíve decided not only to stop attending matches until the ground is finished but also to stop posting on this forum until such time that I attend matches again (in which case the ground will be finished)

Iím sure somewhere along the line things will be better and the ground completed and I hope kelvin and the board find some extra investment to help the club and somehow manage to turn a profit on their investment.

Iíve enjoyed posting on here over many years but itís best to leave it to those who attend the matches and part with their hard earned cash.

Iím sure the forum will be a much rosier place with only positive posts regardless of wherever the club finds itself.

Iíve attended meetings to save the club, put in buckets to keep it going , held up my we want answers banners etc over the years but nowadays I feel that itís best left to the eternal optimists such as yourself Tony in the hope that your optimism will lead to a better future and a completed stadium.

My healthís not great but I do hope that one day I may get to watch ntfc again but as of now thereís no timescale.

Iíve even got to the point where Iím not really enjoying the game at any level any more (too much politicisation in sport for my liking)

The one hope is that as the town and county expands the club may expand with it and future generations have a chance to enjoy a local football club.

Anyway thanks to everyone for the banter down the years and I promise not to post on here until the ground is finished.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all stay safe and are able to get back to watching football as soon as is possible.

To anyone Iíve disagreed/ upset over the years i apologise and thanks to the many of you whoíve made me chuckle.

Anyone who supports/has supported the club over the years deserves a medal and I hope you all get the success your support deserves.

Thanks for being a big part of my life and UP THE COBBLERS

I hope the signings in January lead to an on field revival

Best wishes
Shoey

Thought for some time you sounded like you had fallen out of love with football.
We all share your frustration with the lack of progression on and off the pitch but as you repeatedly say the current owners can't afford to take us to the next level, this has been the way of things at NTFC as long as anyone can remember.

Have often disagreed with you but at least your posts always bring a response.
Hope your health will soon improve and you re-kindle your love of the game.
All the best. UTC


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on December 28, 2020, 22:54:05 pm
Alan Sheehan signs contract until the end of the season in a player/coach role.
Excellent news
Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 28, 2020, 23:51:27 pm
We should spunk everything we have on Nugent.
Controversial?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 29, 2020, 09:07:53 am
Iím guessing the Nugent comment is sarcasm, it would make zero sense for a side that is creating next no chances to bring in an expensive poacher to stand in the attacking half getting frustrated at not getting any ball and being expected at his age to spend all game closing down defenders.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2020, 11:03:18 am


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 29, 2020, 12:36:22 pm
I'd be very surprised to see us sign Nugent. He has been told to stay away from PNE and appears happy to stay at home on full pay. As KC likes to keep his transfer dealings quiet until there is a definite signing he was probably less than impressed when Nugent went blabbering to the press that he had spoken to KC. At the time it seemed to me that he was touting for a better offer from another club.
As I mentioned in a previous post if we are interested in anybody from PNE I would prefer to take Billy Bodin or Louis Moult on loan for the rest of the season, Both appear to be out of favour and also out of contract at the end of the season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 29, 2020, 12:58:03 pm
As I mentioned in a previous post if we are interested in anybody from PNE I would prefer to take Billy Bodin or Louis Moult on loan for the rest of the season, Both appear to be out of favour and also out of contract at the end of the season.

Not for me and thatís not just because neither did it when they played for us previously. We are side that creates very little and already has a lot of small attacking players. Personally I would be looking to strengthen the team elsewhere but if we did bring in a striker I would probably go for a dominating big lump in the Oliver mould or someone with the work rate of Morton who can pressure defenders into making mistakes, creating chances that way.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2020, 15:35:52 pm
Alternatively we could jizz the lot on paying the Chinese to clone Super Sam Hoskins another 10 times, this would have many benefits, he is already adapting to playing every position on the pitch, heís on the front of todayís program and most importantly Toggle Tim would get our half of the commentary right.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 29, 2020, 18:34:45 pm
Northampton Town have signed central defender Lloyd Jones on a deal to the end of the season.

Jones, 25, is a 6ft 3in central defender who spent some time on loan at the club last season, making seven appearances before the campaign was suspended due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

In other player news, Jacob Ballinger's contract has come to an end and he has left the club, while Joe Nuttall has been taken off the club's 22 man registered squad. Meanwhile, the club have spoken to Brentford to arrange for Luka Racic to be recalled.

Surprised by Ballinger. Did remember someone angrily tweeting about us letting more youth players go a few weeks back. The way it phrases suggest that we're still paying for Nuttall, but not for Racic.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 29, 2020, 18:47:48 pm
Northampton Town have signed central defender Lloyd Jones on a deal to the end of the season.

Jones, 25, is a 6ft 3in central defender who spent some time on loan at the club last season, making seven appearances before the campaign was suspended due to the Covid-19 pandemic.


Disappointed by that, looked poor for us in league 2.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 29, 2020, 18:50:28 pm
Il stick my neck out, Jones is an improvement on Racic and Horsfall (maybe even Bolger!).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 29, 2020, 19:16:24 pm
Il stick my neck out, Jones is an improvement on Racic and Horsfall (maybe even Bolger!).

Agree.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 29, 2020, 20:07:35 pm
22 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.

Number drops to 20 from next season.....

So as it stands for this season we have:

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Holmes 33
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Korboa 24
Lines 35
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Nuttall 23
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Smith 25
Sowerby 25
Watson 27
Jones 25

equals 23, which is why Nuttall got taken off and we are now down to the maximum 22.

It is a case of someone out before we can get anyone else over 21 years old in.

Modified!! 21 year olds do not count towards the totals.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on December 29, 2020, 20:49:02 pm
Nice work from Nuttall.....getting us to pay his wages for the whole season for about 45 minutes game time...

Still, that's what you get for signing a pre injured player & not giving them a proper medical!  ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on December 29, 2020, 22:21:36 pm
22 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.

Number drops to 20 from next season.....

So as it stands for this season we have:

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Holmes 33
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Korboa 24
Lines 35
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Nuttall 23
Racic 21
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Sowerby 25
Watson 27
Jones 25

equals 23, which is why Nuttall got taken off and we are now down to the maximum 22.

It is a case of someone out before we can get anyone else 21 years or older in.

Smith missing, so Racic must be classed as u21


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on December 29, 2020, 22:24:07 pm
Nice work from Nuttall.....getting us to pay his wages for the whole season for about 45 minutes game time...

Still, that's what you get for signing a pre injured player & not giving them a proper medical!  ::)

Only 1 of the above is factually correct


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2020, 22:25:19 pm
Smith missing, so Racic must be classed as u21

Bad miss that! ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 29, 2020, 22:50:16 pm
Smith missing, so Racic must be classed as u21

Good spot..... missed him as he wasn't in the squad list tonight!! 21 year olds do not count towards the totals so Racic removed and Smith in!!

Does mean that returning Racic alone does not allow us to take another player who is over 21 years old....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 29, 2020, 23:15:41 pm
Pleased the Nuttall and Racic situation is sorted .
it will allow 2 better players to come in .
i think we need seasoned professionals in the door to show the way this season .
Lloyd Jones may not be the final answer but he is an improvement on any one of Horsfall , Bolger and Racic . Dyche shouldnít be anywhere near the first team at the minute .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 29, 2020, 23:33:47 pm
Pleased the Nuttall and Racic situation is sorted .
it will allow 2 better players to come in .
i think we need seasoned professionals in the door to show the way this season .
Lloyd Jones may not be the final answer but he is an improvement on any one of Horsfall , Bolger and Racic . Dyche shouldnít be anywhere near the first team at the minute .

As I said above, we need to lose someone from the list to allow "seasoned professionals" in.... we've already accounted for Nuttall, thats what allowed us to bring Jones in. Racic doesnt make any difference to the total. Got to be looking at Lines and Martin to exit.....they'd look to be the top two, then Marshall and...Holmes? All guesswork I know, but the point is that SOMEONE HAS TO GO........


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on December 30, 2020, 06:14:51 am
As I said above, we need to lose someone from the list to allow "seasoned professionals" in.... we've already accounted for Nuttall, thats what allowed us to bring Jones in. Racic doesnt make any difference to the total. Got to be looking at Lines and Martin to exit.....they'd look to be the top two, then Marshall and...Holmes? All guesswork I know, but the point is that SOMEONE HAS TO GO........
+1


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on December 30, 2020, 09:35:32 am
A much needed win and a much needed 3 points. Looks like the wall was at fault for the goal, not the keeper.
Looking at the Holmes situation,  I wouldn't be surprised if he moves on, not sure on his record this time around.Have the team actually won a League game he has started in since his return ?
It really might be time to let him go, with Marshall, Adams etc he might be a luxury we can't afford.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 30, 2020, 09:39:17 am
As I said above, we need to lose someone from the list to allow "seasoned professionals" in.... we've already accounted for Nuttall, thats what allowed us to bring Jones in. Racic doesnt make any difference to the total. Got to be looking at Lines and Martin to exit.....they'd look to be the top two, then Marshall and...Holmes? All guesswork I know, but the point is that SOMEONE HAS TO GO........
Marshall and Holmes are our two best players IF played in their correct positions, Lines and Martin, seriously who the hell is going to want that pair?
Fully expect Ricky Holmes to leave.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on December 30, 2020, 10:05:28 am
We could also just leave Lines & Martin out of the squad list (like we have for Nuttall) but we'd obviously still have to pay them, BUT that might prompt them/their agents to try to look for another club for regular first team football...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on December 30, 2020, 11:12:53 am
Marshall and Holmes are our two best players IF played in their correct positions, Lines and Martin, seriously who the hell is going to want that pair?
Fully expect Ricky Holmes to leave.
Only opinion but 'Marshall one of our 2 best players?' Please name ONE game he has started that he has played well. Good cameo's when coming on as sub BUT not when starting!

I want Ricky to be a success again but at the moment the jury is out for a 90 minute involvement.

My two best players, Sheehan and McWilliams trump your two!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Air-Dan on December 30, 2020, 11:37:16 am
Only opinion but 'Marshall one of our 2 best players?' Please name ONE game he has started that he has played well. Good cameo's when coming on as sub BUT not when starting!

vs Southampton Under 21s he was outstanding. His opportunities have been limited.

The play-off final he came on very early and pretty much played the whole game too.

I'd argue that, whilst not our "best" players (Sheehan is our best and it's not even close) I would say they're our two most creative - something we desperately need considering our misfiring strike-force.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 30, 2020, 12:19:23 pm
We could also just leave Lines & Martin out of the squad list (like we have for Nuttall) but we'd obviously still have to pay them, BUT that might prompt them/their agents to try to look for another club for regular first team football...

Suppose it depends in what we are paying them and if someone was willing to match it at least...... if we paid them £1500 p/w to sit on their arse not on the squad list, do you think they'd up sticks and go somewhere else to have to "work" for £1000 a week? (illustrative figures only!)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 30, 2020, 13:00:51 pm
Armand Gnanduillet has become a free agent, if we are looking for a big target man he could be the answer, did ok for Blackpool.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on December 30, 2020, 13:34:42 pm
I love Ricky Holmes but he isn't the old Ricky Holmes.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 30, 2020, 16:04:15 pm
I love Ricky Holmes but he isn't the old Ricky Holmes.
Give him a chance mate, he has been out for two years.
Definitely worth a 6 month extension.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 30, 2020, 16:10:32 pm
Only opinion but 'Marshall one of our 2 best players?' Please name ONE game he has started that he has played well. Good cameo's when coming on as sub BUT not when starting!

I want Ricky to be a success again but at the moment the jury is out for a 90 minute involvement.

My two best players, Sheehan and McWilliams trump your two!
Thatís also your opinion, I agree Sheehan is our most influential player because of the lack of leaders at the back.
McWilliams is too inconsistent at the moment, heís been playing well recently but is suspect to a rush of blood to the head, he could have been sent off again last night with a different ref.
Marshall is being asked to play out of position but to answer your question Burton, he was outstanding.
Next.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 30, 2020, 16:33:36 pm
Give him a chance mate, he has been out for two years.
Definitely worth a 6 month extension.

I think/hope he will be offered a contract until the end of the season at least. Game changer on his day.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on December 30, 2020, 16:37:04 pm
Give him a chance mate, he has been out for two years.
Definitely worth a 6 month extension.
Agree with this 100%, and the likes of us are classified as negative!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on December 30, 2020, 18:09:44 pm
Give him a chance mate, he has been out for two years.
Definitely worth a 6 month extension.
Definitely.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 30, 2020, 18:41:58 pm
Agree with this 100%, and the likes of us are classified as negative!

Don't quite agree; about 60/70% in favour. He has to prove he can still be a game changer. From what I have seen that is still unproven and even appears unlikely. We also have to think of the future and reduce the squad numbers down required for much needed reinforcements. 



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 30, 2020, 18:55:19 pm

McWilliams is too inconsistent at the moment


For me heís been our best central midfielder this season and the most missed when not in the side, better than Sowerby, Watson & Missilou.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on December 30, 2020, 20:33:28 pm
Thatís also your opinion, I agree Sheehan is our most influential player because of the lack of leaders at the back.
McWilliams is too inconsistent at the moment, heís been playing well recently but is suspect to a rush of blood to the head, he could have been sent off again last night with a different ref.
Marshall is being asked to play out of position but to answer your question Burton, he was outstanding.
Next.
You say McWilliams is too inconsistent AT THE MOMENT and immediately say he's been playing well RECENTLY.

Is he inconsistent or playing well?

My opinion is he is one of best currently and more important for the future!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 30, 2020, 21:12:37 pm
You say McWilliams is too inconsistent AT THE MOMENT and immediately say he's been playing well RECENTLY.

Is he inconsistent or playing well?

My opinion is he is one of best currently and more important for the future!

He is a bit yellow/red card prone and maybe a bit injury prone. Quite appreciate him though as he adds a lot to the midfield when fit!




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on December 30, 2020, 21:20:32 pm
Everbright - I agree with what you say regarding the cards but I like the way Shaun hunts down and wins the ball in midfield and last night he made some surging runs into the opposition half. Maybe he needs to learn when to commit to the tackle and when to stand off but we have missed him during his suspension.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 30, 2020, 21:48:31 pm
Everbright - I agree with what you say regarding the cards but I like the way Shaun hunts down and wins the ball in midfield and last night he made some surging runs into the opposition half. Maybe he needs to learn when to commit to the tackle and when to stand off but we have missed him during his suspension.

I agree with you - when he is fit/available; we do well when he is on the pitch!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on December 30, 2020, 22:01:47 pm
Some interesting observations on Shaun McW. and many valid points.
It may be that he will always pick up red/yellow cards for as long as he plays, just as Alan McCormack did.
He is still young enough to learn more self control but it wont hurt if he retains a bit of a mean streak, can still have a bright future.
His energy in the midfield three last night gave us a much more solid look, I'm sure Sowerby and Watson appreciated his efforts.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on December 30, 2020, 23:08:37 pm
You say McWilliams is too inconsistent AT THE MOMENT and immediately say he's been playing well RECENTLY.

Is he inconsistent or playing well?

My opinion is he is one of best currently and more important for the future!
Ok hereís what I mean, heís been playing well BUT he then goes and gets sent off, thatís what I mean by being inconsistent, that moment cost us the game.
As I said before with a different ref yesterday he could of got sent off again!
He is one of our better midfielders, I think that says more about Curles summer recruiting than Shaunís ability.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on December 31, 2020, 01:51:04 am
Iíd missed the Ched Evans story at Fleetwood
Had a fall out with Joey Barton and been let go!
Not getting any younger at 31 but great goal record at League 1. Surely some bigger clubs would be in for him but you never know. Would you have him?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shadowstorm on December 31, 2020, 04:30:02 am
Rumour according to the BBC is that Preston are considering a move for Ched Evans.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 31, 2020, 07:24:46 am
I would rather have McW in the Team than not, agree he needs to control himself a little better but that type of player is always going to be prone to getting booked because of the nature of their game


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on December 31, 2020, 09:43:28 am
For me heís been our best central midfielder this season and the most missed when not in the side, better than Sowerby, Watson & Missilou.

I Totally agree.

Sowerby is the best on the ball but seems to lack positional sence/ is still learning the role Keith wants I'm to play.
Missolou is good at breaking up play and harassing players but he is not a holding midfielder, he seems to lack awareness and positioning.
Watson had been the most complete midfielder we have had in the squad but did go through a bit of a bumpy patch.

MCwilliams seems to have matured a lot, he gets his foot on the ball and there was a noticeable improvement when he came back into the squad.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on December 31, 2020, 10:08:34 am
The thing that McWilliams did a couple of times was to drive forward with the ball from central midfield. This causes problems as it stretches defences and creates space for others. We donít do this nearly enough and havenít really done for a while. His tackles do cause some concern by there rashness but his willingness to get stuck in is a positive if he can just work on his judgement.
With him and Sheehan fit this reinforces the spine of the team. I donít think itís a coincidence that Watson played better as he was more free to play.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on December 31, 2020, 11:37:29 am
Give him a chance mate, he has been out for two years.
Definitely worth a 6 month extension.

Ah yeah I definitely agree he is worth extending until the end of the season.

I just worry he isn't robust enough now. Technical ability and skill is still there.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on December 31, 2020, 12:04:09 pm
Would like us to keep Holmes. While he's only shown brief glimpses of what he was, there's no doubt he's capable of touches of class beyond our other players. I think we should try to get rid of Martin, Lines, Adams and Smith (if and when there's a targetman lined up to replace him).

Unfortunately, I think the chances of any club taking Martin or Lines off our hands are low. Nicky Adams has been a great player for us and I'm sure is a great person to have around the club. He's probably still our best set piece taker, but is that enough? He doesn't have the pace to be an out-and-out winger anymore nor the stamina to play wing back for a whole game, which may be why he's not influencing games like he used to. I think Marshall is a better bet, as he's as tricky as Adams, a good crosser and still has a turn of pace, making him particularly useful off the bench.

If we can get the squad numbers down enough to bring in a couple more players, I'll be happy. Ideally, they'll be a McCormack type and another Mills-type wing-back.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WhiteDogDo on December 31, 2020, 12:23:24 pm
I think 4/6 is good value odds for relegation given our current squad
Is that not a valid opinion
I may be wrong and we may stay up but I think the overriding opinion of the majority of fans , the chairman (who admitted us much the other day in his interview) and the manager is that we need some more quality in order to stay up.
Yes Iím disillusioned regards things right now and itís not my intention to depress others who have a much more upbeat opinion of the current situation.

As such Iíve decided not only to stop attending matches until the ground is finished but also to stop posting on this forum until such time that I attend matches again (in which case the ground will be finished)

Iím sure somewhere along the line things will be better and the ground completed and I hope kelvin and the board find some extra investment to help the club and somehow manage to turn a profit on their investment.

Iíve enjoyed posting on here over many years but itís best to leave it to those who attend the matches and part with their hard earned cash.

Iím sure the forum will be a much rosier place with only positive posts regardless of wherever the club finds itself.

Iíve attended meetings to save the club, put in buckets to keep it going , held up my we want answers banners etc over the years but nowadays I feel that itís best left to the eternal optimists such as yourself Tony in the hope that your optimism will lead to a better future and a completed stadium.

My healthís not great but I do hope that one day I may get to watch ntfc again but as of now thereís no timescale.

Iíve even got to the point where Iím not really enjoying the game at any level any more (too much politicisation in sport for my liking)

The one hope is that as the town and county expands the club may expand with it and future generations have a chance to enjoy a local football club.

Anyway thanks to everyone for the banter down the years and I promise not to post on here until the ground is finished.

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all stay safe and are able to get back to watching football as soon as is possible.

To anyone Iíve disagreed/ upset over the years i apologise and thanks to the many of you whoíve made me chuckle.

Anyone who supports/has supported the club over the years deserves a medal and I hope you all get the success your support deserves.

Thanks for being a big part of my life and UP THE COBBLERS

I hope the signings in January lead to an on field revival

Best wishes
Shoey

Wow, I didn't realise it was Oscars season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on December 31, 2020, 13:27:22 pm
Wow, I didn't realise it was Oscars season.

 ;D Another wow! Return of the prodigal; one of the famous Five returns!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on December 31, 2020, 14:20:04 pm
Given that our best hope to get the quality in that could see us get over the line will be in the 'under21's loan market' I wouldn't panic too much about shedding the squad down too much at the minute...

The way I look at it, is that at this minute in time we don't know what division we are going to be in next season. IF we do go down, then Nicky Adams and Holmes could be instrumental in getting us back up. However, if we stay up, Id be inclined to replace them with younger players next time round...I certainly wouldn't be offering Ricky a 2 year deal, and that could end up being the reason why he leaves. Who knows!

So with that in mind; to create a little wiggle room; Id be inclined to say 'thanks for your efforts' and good bye to Lines and Joe Martin, neither of whom will offer much next season regardless of what division we are in. Both their contracts end in June, they are not going to play much in the meantime (not if we are going to be realistically trying to stay in this division), so it would make sense to pay them off somehow, and let them find somewhere else to play...

Would a league2 team be interested in taking Smith off of us? Because that focal, centre forward position is without a doubt, our biggest weak area. Alternatively, we evolve our style and continue to play more like we did versus Gills, then BAS and Rose may well shine.

For me, we need a sprinkling of quality across the team. At least 3, but ideally 5, 'decent league1 standard players'. I think the spirit in the squad is good, so I wouldn't want a big clear out/loads coming in like we did last time round, which ultimately got us relegated. Not that we will go that way, anyway! Our aspirations are clearly 2020/21 season only, get through it, still as a league1 club and assess in the summer. So short term punts all the way.




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: spqr on December 31, 2020, 15:08:06 pm
Does anybody remember the game when it was pouring and Ron Flowers scored an amazing goal?  The Hotel End erupted with 'Flowers in the Rain'.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 31, 2020, 15:26:52 pm
Wow, I didn't realise it was Oscars season.
He will be back. Same as you, cant keep away.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Harpole Cobbler on December 31, 2020, 16:23:37 pm
Does anybody remember the game when it was pouring and Ron Flowers scored an amazing goal?  The Hotel End erupted with 'Flowers in the Rain'.
Yep - I was right behind the goal at the front of the Spion Kop. Flowers had great class.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WhiteDogDo on December 31, 2020, 16:52:26 pm
;D Another wow! Return of the prodigal; one of the famous Five returns!
I never went away mate, I just realised that not being involved in some of the heavy **** waving that goes on, on here made my brain feel so much happier  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 01, 2021, 15:10:12 pm
Is Ricky Holmes now out of contract? I could be wrong but I thought his current deal (pay when you play) ended as of yesterday. It's a little strange that nothing has been mentioned, has he signed a new deal of has he gone.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 01, 2021, 16:06:42 pm
I think if Holmes was going to get his contact extended it would have happened the same time as Sheehan. Obviously KC will want to bring in new players but Iíd imagine there isnít a huge amount of room budget wise. We are paying Nuttallís wages, Martin & Lines have been fringe at best since joining over a year ago. Missilou doesnít seem the answer in midfield and I wonder how Adams, Marshall, Hoskins and even Holmes would fit in if we continue with 5-3-2 going forward, all have defensive limitations as wing backs so the only other option is as one of the front 2. With the possible exception of Hoskins I would look to move on some of these players but canít see it happening so the only way to bring in someone new Iím sad to say might be not renewing Holmes contract.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on January 01, 2021, 18:45:48 pm
Can we get Erhun Otzhumer in please? Tidy little player


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 01, 2021, 19:36:58 pm
Can we get Erhun Otzhumer in please? Tidy little player

Always looked decent when playing for Walsall against us......unfortunately though now he is on a season long loan at Bristol Rovers from Charlton Athletic. Since leaving Walsall for Bolton, then onto Charlton and now onto Bristol Rovers he has not scored a league goal......42 appearances.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 02, 2021, 18:10:11 pm
Ricky Holmes still in talks about a new contract according to Tim.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 02, 2021, 18:30:48 pm
Ricky Holmes still in talks about a new contract according to Tim.
I am sure the talks would go better if Curle fcuking played him!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on January 02, 2021, 19:20:34 pm
Racic - Goode swap


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 03, 2021, 00:46:28 am
Loyd Jones has already come in for Racic, I'd be very surprised if we even go in for another CB as there isn't the space in the 22 for them compared to the bigger priority positions of wing-back and striker (and arguably goalkeeper, though I'm not sure we'll reinforce there).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 09:39:12 am
The only people I can see leaving is Adams, Marshall and Holmes, given our current budget can we get anyone better?
We desperately need some more firepower and creativity as has been said....
Have we signed anybody yet?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2021, 09:46:59 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-admits-holmes-could-leave-cobblers-due-limit-squad-sizes-3083743


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2021, 10:31:44 am
So the club were "going to start discussions" with Holmes (and Sheehan) a couple of weeks ago and now the club is "not in a position to offer Holmes a new contract"

Holmes was taking up a place in the 22 man list prior to the window opening, so him being out of contract does at least free up a space for someone else......but it still means we have the likes of Martin and Lines amongst the 22.....
Pay off one of those to keep Holmes.....or let Holmes go and pay for someone else to come in?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on January 03, 2021, 10:48:11 am
Hang on a sec the Chairman chap said we would sign some League 1 players in January. If we already had 22 then he needs to sack some.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 03, 2021, 11:24:10 am
So the club were "going to start discussions" with Holmes (and Sheehan) a couple of weeks ago and now the club is "not in a position to offer Holmes a new contract"

Holmes was taking up a place in the 22 man list prior to the window opening, so him being out of contract does at least free up a space for someone else......but it still means we have the likes of Martin and Lines amongst the 22.....
Pay off one of those to keep Holmes.....or let Holmes go and pay for someone else to come in?

Not as simple as that i'm afraid. You can only pay players off if those players agree to being paid off. Both Lines and Martin are probably happy sitting on decent contracts and will sit it out until the end of the season. It will only change if one or both receive decent offers from other clubs, we can only hope that will happen this month. It doesn't necessarily mean Ricky isn't wanted, but that there are other priorities at this moment in time as KC has already said. They are still in dialogue with Ricky after all.     


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2021, 11:42:07 am
So the club were "going to start discussions" with Holmes (and Sheehan) a couple of weeks ago and now the club is "not in a position to offer Holmes a new contract"

Holmes was taking up a place in the 22 man list prior to the window opening, so him being out of contract does at least free up a space for someone else......but it still means we have the likes of Martin and Lines amongst the 22.....
Pay off one of those to keep Holmes.....or let Holmes go and pay for someone else to come in?

Disingenuous, he doesn't actually say that...  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 03, 2021, 11:52:32 am
So the club were "going to start discussions" with Holmes (and Sheehan) a couple of weeks ago and now the club is "not in a position to offer Holmes a new contract"

Holmes was taking up a place in the 22 man list prior to the window opening, so him being out of contract does at least free up a space for someone else......but it still means we have the likes of Martin and Lines amongst the 22.....
Pay off one of those to keep Holmes.....or let Holmes go and pay for someone else to come in?
Ricky had his chance, he had 5 minutes against Lincoln and did nothing and 3 minutes against Gillingham and yet again failed to score, get rid. Whilst we're at at get rid of McWilliams and Sheehan and then we needn't worry about any game.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2021, 12:07:51 pm
Ricky had his chance, he had 5 minutes against Lincoln and did nothing and 3 minutes against Gillingham and yet again failed to score, get rid. Whilst we're at at get rid of McWilliams and Sheehan and then we needn't worry about any game.

How many total minutes has Holmes played? From what I have seen Holmes has flattered to deceive. Cannot remember him doing any of his great drives upfield! I suspect that we wonít see the Holmes of old?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 03, 2021, 12:17:02 pm
I think his best position out wide is not something that we utilise, but he is by far the most talented player we have. It doesn't sound like it's closed for him entirely at the moment, we just need to get others to agree to leave before we can give him a space.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 12:26:07 pm
Letís face it Ricky Holmes will be gone, ridiculous decision by Curle, completely clueless, he plays Hoskins in every position possible but Ricky Holmes and Marshall donít get a look in, the bottom line is they are both pedigree footballers neither of them are required for Curls awful brand of anti football hoof ball.
Personally I pay my money to watch players of that class not lumbering lumps like Horsfall or Smith.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 03, 2021, 12:26:42 pm
If continue with the formation of the last couple of games the only position I can see Holmes having a chance of playing is the the role currently played by Rose.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 12:28:13 pm
If continue with the formation of the last couple of games the only position I can see Holmes having a chance of playing is the the role currently played by Rose.

Give him a free role behind the front 2, we desperately lack quality in midfield.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 03, 2021, 12:41:08 pm
Give him a free role behind the front 2, we desperately lack quality in midfield.

Maybe Keith knows this and has the matter in hand, time will tell.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 03, 2021, 12:56:29 pm
Marshall and Holmes may be technically better players than Hoskins but Sam will continually be selected in preference as a wide player because of his energy and workrate. Several times yesterday he got back to make important defensive contributions which it is unlikely either of the other 2 would have made.
If we have space in the 22 for Holmes I would extend his contract, but only to the end of the season, but he needs to show more than he has so far. If he had been selected yesterday to play behind the front 2 then either Watson or Sowerby would have been left out. On what Holmes has produced so far I think KC selected the right team.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 03, 2021, 13:02:38 pm
Give him a free role behind the front 2, we desperately lack quality in midfield.

Completely disagree, we have looked a million miles better since putting in an extra player in midfield and taking out an attacking player.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 13:09:34 pm
Completely disagree, we have looked a million miles better since putting in an extra player in midfield and taking out an attacking player.
Weíve looked a lot better because weíve actually got some defenders in Sheehan and Lloyd Jones, but most of all McWilliams breaking up the opposition attacks and passing it simple, you do know we played two up front yesterday?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 03, 2021, 13:27:17 pm
you do know we played two up front yesterday?
Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldnít sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2021, 14:45:09 pm
Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldnít sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.

Very few half decent rumours on here at moment - come in NTFc*** all is forgiven?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 03, 2021, 14:59:32 pm
The club finally inform everyone Ratic has gone back , as i informed everyone on here 2 weeks ago !


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 03, 2021, 15:12:27 pm
Curles post match interview yesterday
Said they had ď4 or 5 targetsĒ for January
If they get ď2,3 of those then itís a good windowĒ

Answers on a postcard who that is! Although he also continued to mention the 22 man squad restriction
So with Racic going today, that leaves 1 space
Would think Martin, Lines and apparently Holmes will be allowed to go for space


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 15:53:12 pm
Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldnít sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.
I agree with what you are saying for the the ďbigĒ teams in this league but against the clubs in and around us we need more attacking threat also if we are chasing the game we have no one who can add that extra goal threat.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2021, 16:00:29 pm
22 21 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.

Number drops to 20 from next season.....

So as it stands for this season we have:

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Holmes 33 now out of contract
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Korboa 24
Lines 35
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Smith 25
Sowerby 25
Watson 27
Jones 25


Racic gone but that didn't make any difference....

Holmes contract expired yesterday.....

And now there are 21


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2021, 16:04:17 pm
Racic was/is 21 so he would have been in the original squad of 22?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2021, 16:06:54 pm
Racic was/is 21 so he would have been in the original squad of 22?

I think we established a few pages back that 21 year olds counted as U21's....otherwise we had a squad that was too big and we would not have been able to register someone (Holmes/Sheehan/Jones)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2021, 16:09:20 pm
Disingenuous, he doesn't actually say that...  ;D

Erm.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/ricky_holmes/

Also states "over 21's" so assume Racic didn't count towards the squad numbers as he was not over 21....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Rook Raven on January 03, 2021, 18:48:26 pm
Korboa or Ricky Holmes?

Itís an easy decision and a cheap pay off


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 03, 2021, 19:00:48 pm
Korboa or Ricky Holmes?

Itís an easy decision and a cheap pay off
Couldnít agree more, get rid of him and Martin.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 03, 2021, 20:06:34 pm
How many total minutes has Holmes played? From what I have seen Holmes has flattered to deceive. Cannot remember him doing any of his great drives upfield! I suspect that we wonít see the Holmes of old?

18 minutes v Oxford City in the FA Cup
20 minutes v Accrington in the League
60 minutes v Stevenage in the League Trophy  **
66 minutes v Burton in the League **
68 minutes v Rochdale in the League **
63 minutes v Doncaster in the League **
62 minutes v Crewe in the League **
90 minutes v Oxford United in the League **
6 minutes v Lincoln in the League
1 minute v Gillingham in the League

454 minutes total playing time.

** Games started

As I've put on another post, the role that Holmes had in Wilders team was never going to be replicated in Curles team. Curle does not give players free roles, does not use attacking wingers, he uses defensive wing backs.....you can't compare one with the other, neither can anyone expect Ricky Holmes to perform now like he did then, tactics, different players, formation, style of play, serious injuries, its like chalk and cheese.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 03, 2021, 20:51:49 pm
18 minutes v Oxford City in the FA Cup
20 minutes v Accrington in the League
60 minutes v Stevenage in the League Trophy  **
66 minutes v Burton in the League **
68 minutes v Rochdale in the League **
63 minutes v Doncaster in the League **
62 minutes v Crewe in the League **
90 minutes v Oxford United in the League **
6 minutes v Lincoln in the League
1 minute v Gillingham in the League

454 minutes total playing time.

** Games started

As I've put on another post, the role that Holmes had in Wilders team was never going to be replicated in Curles team. Curle does not give players free roles, does not use attacking wingers, he uses defensive wing backs.....you can't compare one with the other, neither can anyone expect Ricky Holmes to perform now like he did then, tactics, different players, formation, style of play, serious injuries, its like chalk and cheese.

Ricky must be very frustrated. I'm sure he'll think, now he's got himself fit, that he's capable of much more but hasnt been given the opportunity.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2021, 22:13:15 pm
Erm.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/ricky_holmes/

Also states "over 21's" so assume Racic didn't count towards the squad numbers as he was not over 21....

He said "at the moment" and gave his reasons.  It's not the clubs decision, it's his from a footballing perspective.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Martin on January 04, 2021, 10:14:48 am
I know this might be unpopular, but as well as trying to move on Martin and Lines, I think we should be looking to the future and therefore moving on Adams and Marshall. We need younger more athletic and stronger players in order to survive and possibly prosper in this league. Adams in particular has delivered little this year and struggles in the wing back role he has to fill. He lacks the pace and strength now and whilst skillful at League 2 level, he doesn't cut it at league 1 level. Younger, stronger players with more pace would make such a difference, as we have seen with the introduction of McWilliams in central midfield. Moving these players on would also make a significant impact on the wage bill and allow KC more freedom in the transfer window.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 04, 2021, 10:43:29 am
He is a bit yellow/red card prone and maybe a bit injury prone. Quite appreciate him though as he adds a lot to the midfield when fit!




1 red card in 73 appearances says he not red card prone


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2021, 11:02:47 am
Martin, I agree with your views on Adams and Marshall. Some think they are our most skillfull players and should be in every starting 11. However, Adams has so far not been able to make the step up in class (not the only one) and does not have the energy of Hoskins to get up and down the pitch for a wing back, also he never completes 90 minutes these days. I have said before that if Marshall had not taken up the option of the extra year on his contract I doubt that the club would have despite his performance at Wembley. He has cost us at least 2 goals with his defending and I think if you are going to play him you need a full back behind him in a flat back 4. If we manage to stay up I doubt either will be offered a new contract at the end of the season if they are still here.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 04, 2021, 11:13:17 am
Pete O'Rourke just reported that Norwich City are in for Chukwuemeka



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 04, 2021, 11:18:34 am
Martin, I agree with your views on Adams and Marshall. Some think they are our most skillfull players and should be in every starting 11. However, Adams has so far not been able to make the step up in class (not the only one) and does not have the energy of Hoskins to get up and down the pitch for a wing back, also he never completes 90 minutes these days. I have said before that if Marshall had not taken up the option of the extra year on his contract I doubt that the club would have despite his performance at Wembley. He has cost us at least 2 goals with his defending and I think if you are going to play him you need a full back behind him in a flat back 4. If we manage to stay up I doubt either will be offered a new contract at the end of the season if they are still here.

I agree that the Squad cannot necessarily carry Holmes, Adams, Marshall and Lines as seemingly aging bit part players but also I think this is very much a case of be careful what you wish for. We could easily end up wondering where all the fighters and leaders are.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 04, 2021, 11:27:27 am
Pete O'Rourke just reported that Norwich City are in for Chukwuemeka

Who's Pete O'Rourke ?




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 04, 2021, 11:28:25 am
The players to get rid of first of all are Martin and Lines . It is very doubtful anyone will take them though .
Adams and Marshall do a job in this league and would be hard to replace quickly - despite having struggled this season .
Smith also needs shifting but again , better the devil you know sometimes .
Korboa and Dyche need loaning out .
We need players that know how to survive and grit it out .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2021, 11:46:09 am
Without meaning to be disrespectful to any posters, getting rid of unwanted players isnít like playing Football Manager especially in the current climate. I would imagine that with COVID about the likes of Martin and Lines are likely to sit out their contract and hope things have changed by the Summer - the only thing possibly changing that is if another club comes in for them with a longish term contract which is incredibly unlikely. I would have thought even going out on loan would be unlikely again due to COVID.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 04, 2021, 11:51:17 am
The players to get rid of first of all are Martin and Lines . It is very doubtful anyone will take them though .
Adams and Marshall do a job in this league and would be hard to replace quickly - despite having struggled this season .
Smith also needs shifting but again , better the devil you know sometimes .
Korboa and Dyche need loaning out .
We need players that know how to survive and grit it out .

 ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2021, 11:59:54 am
Pete O'Rourke just reported that Norwich City are in for Chukwuemeka


EFL HUB are reporting Norwich, Leicester, Liverpool and Southampton, have all submitted bids. Silly season has started.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 04, 2021, 12:22:41 pm
I actually don't think Lines is that bad, the problem he has is that at 35 he can't get up and down the field like he used to. He must have been rubbing his hands when we offered him a 2 year contract at 33 years old. Likewise Martin, released by Stevenage and we offer him a 2 year deal ?
    People say that KC has done well in the transfer market, yes he bought in a couple of good loans last year in Wharton & Morton and a really good permanent signing in Goode but also look at this seasons loans, Mitchell is not really an up grade on Arnold and Racic, don't really need to say much more about him. Then we look at KC's other permanent signings, Arnold, not much better than Cornell who I thought was bang average, you can see why Horsfall & Smith played for Macclesfield. We've had worse than Bolger but we've had a lot better, Mills looks decent when he plays and Sheehan is obviously a good player. Missilou and BAS have looked OK in odd matches, Korboa looked useful in the first few games playing up front but then KC decides to play him in midfield, he has a poor game and hasn't been seen since.
        The jury is out on him in my opinion, just as likely to sign a donkey as a decent player.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 04, 2021, 12:42:25 pm
If we do sell Chuck this month, Id want 2 million quid minimum, plus sell on's. Whats going on behind the scenes with him, who knows, but he's the best kid to come out of our youth team (potential) for 30 plus years. Could easily make it to the very top...

He'd be my first pick as far as the forwards we have at the club. I don't understand why he's not getting game time, I can only assume there's stuff going on behind the scenes!

It doesn't surprise me that prem clubs are sniffing around. The twitter source is a good one, he's normally bang on the money, so Id be inclined to believe this one.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 04, 2021, 12:52:11 pm
If we do sell Chuck this month, Id want 2 million quid minimum, plus sell on's. Whats going on behind the scenes with him, who knows, but he's the best kid to come out of our youth team (potential) for 30 plus years. Could easily make it to the very top...

He'd be my first pick as far as the forwards we have at the club. I don't understand why he's not getting game time, I can only assume there's stuff going on behind the scenes!

It doesn't surprise me that prem clubs are sniffing around. The twitter source is a good one, he's normally bang on the money, so Id be inclined to believe this one.

I don't think we're in a position to demand that sort of money Drilling, the lad is only on a youth contract and is also out of contract very soon (this month). A compensation package is probably all we'll get I'm afraid - I hope I'm wrong on this.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2021, 12:56:28 pm
I previously mentioned Billy Bodin and Bristol Rovers (where he did very well before) and Ipswich are both after him. I think we would have offered him a contract when he was last here except he had injury problems.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 04, 2021, 12:58:23 pm
The players to get rid of first of all are Martin and Lines . It is very doubtful anyone will take them though .


Maybe but if I were either of them and wanted to continue playing at the end of the season then I would would be asking my agent to all they could to get me either a transfer or a loan out of the club. Getting a foot in the door somewhere now is their best chance rather than the end of the season when a whole load of players will be looking for new clubs.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 04, 2021, 13:05:09 pm
I don't think we're in a position to demand that sort of money Drilling, the lad is only on a youth contract and is also out of contract very soon (this month). A compensation package is probably all we'll get I'm afraid - I hope I'm wrong on this.

Sadly, you are most likely correct. Its frustrating, because I think any other season we may have got him tied down on a contract. But if I was his agent, Id be asking for several thousand a week and playing hard ball, knowing there's going to be significant interest elsewhere.

This is the huge problem we face along with any other club in the lower leagues without a significant benefactor bankrolling proceedings. Playing devils ad...we sign him on a deal worth 5k a week. With a review to flogging him for 5 million once he's banged in 15 goals (which I have no doubt he would do)...he then gets injured, starts sulking, whatever. Coupled with a disjointed dressing room where one kid is earning loads more than the rest of the players etc....

If we are to sell him for big bunce, it would have to be now whilst at least he's tied into us for a few months. A prem club would probably take a punt to get him for a couple of million based on the silly money they spend on transfer fees, rather than waiting until June where they would have much more competition for his signature.

Its a real shame, would love to see him play for us for 2 seasons at least and establish himself first!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2021, 13:06:22 pm
I don't think we're in a position to demand that sort of money Drilling, the lad is only on a youth contract and is also out of contract very soon (this month). A compensation package is probably all we'll get I'm afraid - I hope I'm wrong on this.

Iíve been banging on about this for a while now - it would appear that KC tried to persuade Caleb that his future was with us by playing him in a number of games but the fact that he hasnít figured lately would suggest that the vultures are circling and weíre going to end up with a pittance.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2021, 13:25:14 pm
If we are to sell him for big bunce, it would have to be now whilst at least he's tied into us for a few months. A prem club would probably take a punt to get him for a couple of million based on the silly money they spend on transfer fees, rather than waiting until June where they would have much more competition for his signature.
So, right now, you value Caleb at a couple of million? And at the end of the season hes going to be worth more? Give your head a wobble son. By the way, I still use the term "Pikey". That wasnt your best moment, was it?  ;D





Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 04, 2021, 13:35:09 pm
I hate to say it - and hopefully with some high calibre clubs supposedly being in for him this wonít be the case - but this has got P@@h written all over it - nick him for a pittance and he turns into the next Ivan Toney! Wasnít there a suggestion that Caleb had a bit of a bad reputation or that he was a bit lazy - I suspect that this might have been KCís way to try and keep his feet on the ground? Also, if it goes to a tribunal possibly we might get more as we have played him in several first team games?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 04, 2021, 13:47:27 pm
So, right now, you value Caleb at a couple of million? And at the end of the season hes going to be worth more? Give your head a wobble son. By the way, I still use the term "Pikey". That wasnt your best moment, was it?  ;D





All things equal, yeah! 95% of it made up in 'potential'...

Look me ole mucker. I recall vividly debating this stuff when we sold Ivan Toney. 'Half a million is great business' most of our fans said at the time'. 'He's bang average'. etc etc. So cant be assed to go into a long post as to why I think he's worth a shed load of money..

...other than to say, lets see what occurs. And that I didn't say he would be worth more at the end of the season, he will be worth a lot less...and if we are to do decent business, it has to be this month. As from where Im sitting, it looks increasingly likely that he wont be signing a contract! So it would all go down to one of those tribunal things...and we'd get a pittance!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2021, 14:34:29 pm
All things equal, yeah! 95% of it made up in 'potential'...

Look me ole mucker. I recall vividly debating this stuff when we sold Ivan Toney. 'Half a million is great business' most of our fans said at the time'. 'He's bang average'. etc etc. So cant be assed to go into a long post as to why I think he's worth a shed load of money..

...other than to say, lets see what occurs. And that I didn't say he would be worth more at the end of the season, he will be worth a lot less...and if we are to do decent business, it has to be this month. As from where Im sitting, it looks increasingly likely that he wont be signing a contract! So it would all go down to one of those tribunal things...and we'd get a pittance!
I have no desire to get into an arguement with you. But where do you get your figures from? Two million for Chucky, Ivan sold for half a million, umm....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 04, 2021, 14:41:27 pm
I have no desire to get into an arguement with you. But where do you get your figures from? Two million for Chucky, Ivan sold for half a million, umm....

People assumed at the time it must be around £400k but then it came out longer down the line that it was closer to the gas bill.

I personally think we will be stitched up for Chucky now. Any other club in this division would have him pinned down and be asking for well over a million for him.  He has far greater potential and therefore value that Goode.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2021, 14:41:41 pm
I have no desire to get into an arguement with you. But where do you get your figures from? Two million for Chucky, Ivan sold for half a million, umm....

 ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 04, 2021, 15:14:34 pm
If I had the benefit of hindsight Iíd be worth at least 4 times as much as I am now, just saying.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2021, 15:23:19 pm
If I had the benefit of hindsight Iíd be worth at least 4 times as much as I am now, just saying.
Yeah, I know what you mean. 30 years ago I nearly bought a house around the corner from me. But it was £500 over my budget.
About ten years ago, they sold the bottom half of their extensive garden, and built four flats on it. With off road parking.
Hindsight. Tis a lovely thing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on January 04, 2021, 15:58:13 pm
Christian Lee.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on January 04, 2021, 16:03:56 pm
If I had the benefit of hindsight Iíd be worth at least 4 times as much as I am now, just saying.

You have the benefit of hindsight, it's foresight that helps.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 04, 2021, 19:37:10 pm
Ricky to the Shrimpers??

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/holmes-im-ready-whoever-wants-give-me-deal-3085138


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2021, 19:46:23 pm
The club has probably tried all it can to get Caleb to sign a new contract but it maybe in his own best interest not to sign. If he goes we no doubt will get less for him if he is out of contract leaving him with a potentially larger signing on fee.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 04, 2021, 19:50:21 pm
The club has probably tried all it can to get Caleb to sign a new contract but it maybe in his own best interest not to sign. If he goes we no doubt will get less for him if he is out of contract leaving him with a potentially larger signing on fee.

Jay Williams was offered £200 pw, if Caleb was offered anywhere around that mark no wonder he didnt sign a contract


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 04, 2021, 20:26:16 pm
Jay Williams was offered £200 pw, if Caleb was offered anywhere around that mark no wonder he didnt sign a contract
FFS We really are tin pot from top to bottom, good old Kelvin under promise and under deliver the sooner heís gone the better.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2021, 20:37:08 pm
Jay Williams offered £200 pw? How reliable is the source of this information?.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 04, 2021, 22:47:02 pm
Caleb is only 18 years old.....I wouldn't have said the offer would be as low as £200 per week, but I wouldn't think that it would be that much higher either.

Prospect he may be, but he's only started one league game, and lower league clubs never pay "prospects" a lot of money if they're not in the starting line up......

Short-term we're much more likely to want to cash in, even if its only 100k we get for him that money will be seen as far more important than maybe having a good saleable player on our books in two years time.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2021, 07:50:29 am
Caleb is only 18 years old.....I wouldn't have said the offer would be as low as £200 per week, but I wouldn't think that it would be that much higher either.

Prospect he may be, but he's only started one league game, and lower league clubs never pay "prospects" a lot of money if they're not in the starting line up......

Short-term we're much more likely to want to cash in, even if its only 100k we get for him that money will be seen as far more important than maybe having a good saleable player on our books in two years time.
I think this sums up the mindset of our owners in a nutshell.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 05, 2021, 09:01:40 am
Ricky to the Shrimpers??

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/holmes-im-ready-whoever-wants-give-me-deal-3085138

It sounds like he has already packed his bags!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 05, 2021, 12:33:25 pm
I don't think coparing Caleb to Jay Williams is at all relevant as they are travelling in opposite directions. Jay has dropped 3 rungs down the ladder and is now at Kettering whereas Caleb will be moving up. Who knows how much we have offered him?, but it will not be as much as an established first team player and no doubt he will get better offers from bigger clubs.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 05, 2021, 13:07:32 pm
I would imagine KC would have a lot of impact on how much we offer Caleb, if Curle sees him as an important player going forward then it makes sense for the club to make him a reasonable offer as he would be a big asset as opposed to the peanuts we would get if he leaves at the end of the season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on January 05, 2021, 13:16:15 pm
I'm hearing Chris Lines has signed on loan to Stevenage...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 05, 2021, 13:21:36 pm
Yep looks like the Stevenage website went early by accident
1 of 3 signings for them with Matty Stevens and Luke Norris

Nice bloke, was ok last year but we can use that squad spot better at his age


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 05, 2021, 13:22:21 pm
would you take £300k for Caleb right now if it was offered ?
i think i would


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 05, 2021, 13:25:18 pm
Yep looks like the Stevenage website went early by accident
1 of 3 signings for them with Matty Stevens and Luke Norris

Nice bloke, was ok last year but we can use that squad spot better at his age

There is a screenshot on Facebook which looks to be from their official site, however the article is (no longer) not on the site!! Nothing from our end yet.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 05, 2021, 13:25:59 pm
Yep looks like the Stevenage website went early by accident
1 of 3 signings for them with Matty Stevens and Luke Norris

Nice bloke, was ok last year but we can use that squad spot better at his age

Thatís 3 very decent players for league 2 - didnít they get the memo that the seasonís not going to end?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 05, 2021, 13:34:01 pm
Yeah, it's official. I wonder if that's enough to keep Holmes, or whether we need a few more spaces first.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 05, 2021, 13:34:03 pm
Hopefully, Martin out next!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 05, 2021, 13:34:58 pm
Thatís 3 very decent players for league 2 - didnít they get the memo that the seasonís not going to end?

Maybe be I guess now is the time where you can probably pick up some heavily subsidised loans.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 05, 2021, 13:36:55 pm
This, however, is fun news  ;D

https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/1346104723104014337


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on January 05, 2021, 13:38:23 pm
So, there are now two open spots in the squad?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 05, 2021, 13:41:50 pm
So, there are now two open spots in the squad?

20 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.

So as it stands for this season we have:

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Korboa 24
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Smith 25
Sowerby 25
Watson 27
Jones 25


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 05, 2021, 13:50:28 pm
20 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.

So as it stands for this season we have:

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Korboa 24
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Smith 25
Sowerby 25
Watson 27
Jones 25

GK : 2
Centre-backs : 4
Wingerback/Wingers : 6
Centre midfielders : 4
Strikers : 3
Pretty much Anywhere : Hoskins

Overloaded with wingers that we never bother to play. I think the scout on the radio said that main targets were a new striker, and a utility player who could play along the backline.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 05, 2021, 14:04:27 pm
I'm hearing Chris Lines has signed on loan to Stevenage...

Permanent deal. Only until the end of the season though.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2021, 14:09:45 pm
Hopefully, Martin out next!

Great comment   ::)

Martin done ok - I like his attitude in-spite of some adverse comments on here!



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Poggy on January 05, 2021, 14:21:36 pm
I think we can stay up with the following transfer activity:

1) Send back Mitchell and sign a proven L1 standard goalkeeper with Arnold as back-up

2) Offload Adams to a promotion chasing L2 side and replace him with a L1 quality right wing back

3) Sign a target-man centre forward who can compete against the better centre backs in this league

Offloading Martin would also be bonus.

I don't think with KC's style of play that any wingers / flair players would have much chance of thriving in our team.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 05, 2021, 14:25:03 pm
Great comment   ::)

Martin done ok - I like his attitude in-spite of some adverse comments on here!



I think I would make sense to Martin to move on, probably Marshall too, neither are getting much game time, their best chances of contracts next season are to get a foot in the door elsewhere now.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2021, 14:32:54 pm
I think we can stay up with the following transfer activity:

1) Send back Mitchell and sign a proven L1 standard goalkeeper with Arnold as back-up

2) Offload Adams to a promotion chasing L2 side and replace him with a L1 quality right wing back

3) Sign a target-man centre forward who can compete against the better centre backs in this league

Offloading Martin would also be bonus.

I don't think with KC's style of play that any wingers / flair players would have much chance of thriving in our team.
Nothing wrong with Mitchell. Has been be a good keeper and certainly better than Arnold over this season.
Offloading Martin would be good though...and as with Lines can be done, despite so many on here claiming no one would take them. Will admit pleasant surprise should anyone come in for Martin. Bath City a fit!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 05, 2021, 15:14:57 pm
You have the benefit of hindsight, it's foresight that helps.
Very insightful Larry, bit of an oversight, with hindsight I shouldíve said foresight?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 05, 2021, 15:15:21 pm
I don't think coparing Caleb to Jay Williams is at all relevant as they are travelling in opposite directions. Jay has dropped 3 rungs down the ladder and is now at Kettering whereas Caleb will be moving up. Who knows how much we have offered him?, but it will not be as much as an established first team player and no doubt he will get better offers from bigger clubs.

They didnt offer Jay £200 pw on the assumption hewas going to end up at Kettering, if that was the case he wouldnt have been offered a pro deal


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 05, 2021, 15:18:38 pm
Jay Williams offered £200 pw? How reliable is the source of this information?.
His dad told me , is that reliable enough, i also know the mother of another young player offered money by Dunstable Town at 17.( in our under 18s last season) offered nothing here so he left


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on January 05, 2021, 15:32:08 pm
Permanent deal. Only until the end of the season though.

So until a week on Saturday then  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2021, 15:34:16 pm
His dad told me , is that reliable enough, i also know the mother of another young player offered money by Dunstable Town at 17.( in our under 18s last season) offered nothing here so he left
  ;D Grove 1 - OAP 0


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 05, 2021, 15:35:08 pm
His dad told me , is that reliable enough, i also know the mother of another young player offered money by Dunstable Town at 17.( in our under 18s last season) offered nothing here so he left

Sounds very short sighted... although it looks like he now plays for Fulham u23s?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on January 05, 2021, 16:26:31 pm
Sounds very short sighted... although it looks like he now plays for Fulham u23s?

different jay williams


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on January 05, 2021, 16:26:58 pm
His dad told me , is that reliable enough, i also know the mother of another young player offered money by Dunstable Town at 17.( in our under 18s last season) offered nothing here so he left

are you suggesting we should have signed him based on dunstable town wanting him!?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 05, 2021, 16:42:54 pm
Claudio Dias ?

Years   Team   Apps   (Gls)
2013Ė2014   Northampton Town   1   (0)
2013   → Corby Town (loan)   4   (0)
2013Ė2014   → Banbury United (loan)   3   (3)
2014   → Banbury United (loan)   12   (1)
2014   Dunstable Town   1   (0)
2014Ė2015   Bedford Town   3   (0)
2015Ė2016   Barton Rovers   12   (2)
2016   Brackley Town   1   (0)
2016Ė2017   Braintree Town   2   (0)
2017   Dunstable Town   6   (1)
2017Ė2018   Barton Rovers      
2018   Potton United   10   (3)
2018Ė2019   Stratford Town   14   (1)
2019   Tamworth   13   (0)
2019Ė2020   Banbury United   0   (0)
2020Ė   Nuneaton Borough   2   (0)


Edit :

it's Eric Ameyaw :)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 05, 2021, 16:48:36 pm
are you suggesting we should have signed him based on dunstable town wanting him!?


If it is Eric Ameyaw then its more the fact he is now in a premier league academy that's of interest rather than Dunstable. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wattie on January 05, 2021, 17:21:03 pm
Nothing wrong with Mitchell. Has been be a good keeper and certainly better than Arnold over this season.

Completely agree, I would love to see us sign him on a permie deal and nurture him through. He is miles better than stay on the line Arnold IMO


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 05, 2021, 17:22:46 pm
If it is Eric Ameyaw then its more the fact he is now in a premier league academy that's of interest rather than Dunstable. 

Agreed but it would be interesting to see where he ends up. It must be a staggering % of the u23s squads that end up out of the football league.

We have signed some absolute dross from them over the years. A couple of youngsters from Arsenal spring to mind.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on January 05, 2021, 19:01:28 pm
See that Jay Williams spell at Kettering has already ended. Back in league football with Harrogate Town. Good luck to him. Never let us down in his appearances for us. Anybody want to offer first team football to Martin?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 05, 2021, 19:48:40 pm
I wouldnít shed any tears of Smith and Missalou also left to be quite honest.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on January 05, 2021, 21:56:58 pm
Me neither


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 06, 2021, 01:24:23 am
Given the enforced reduction in squad sizes vis a vie the situation with Holmes etc, there has to be some quality kicking around towards the end of the window, there just has to be? I know this was said in the summer, but no one seemed to be able to predict just how cavalier the majority of chairman are? This time they donít have a choice. I have already asked my question on the Q&A but one of the additional ones I would have put to Curle would have been, ďhow many players recruited pre season were first choice selections. I reckon Mills is the only one and wouldnít be surprised if some were 3rd or even fourth choice? We need some first choice players in this window. That is if we are still insisting on recruiting at all which is still fraught with danger IMO.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 06, 2021, 08:20:41 am
Keith's take on the transfer window.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/kc_060121/

To me it seems to be very similar to what he said in the previous window(s) whereas he says this one is very different! "working to get the best options, looking at 5 or 6 and if we get two its a good window", "value for money, hungry players and unlocking potential" "ready to move if the right players become available"....didn't we hear that in the summer?

To me it seems to point away from experienced players and more to younger options.......?

Also the 22 man squad thing is a bit of a red herring....yes its there, but it was there in the summer window too, it comes across in that article as a new thing for this window which it isn't. It was brought in alongside the salary caps to stop the likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth having 30 (experienced) men squads, levelling the playing field whilst at the same time promoting younger home grown players.

Time will tell, there's over three weeks to go, but the article strikes me as one which is looking for us to play down any expectations we may have had about lots of big name quality replacements coming in this month. In the current financial climate that probably makes sense though.......good housekeeping and all that.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2021, 09:00:58 am
Keith's take on the transfer window.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/kc_060121/

To me it seems to be very similar to what he said in the previous window(s) whereas he says this one is very different! "working to get the best options, looking at 5 or 6 and if we get two its a good window", "value for money, hungry players and unlocking potential" "ready to move if the right players become available"....didn't we hear that in the summer?

To me it seems to point away from experienced players and more to younger options.......?

Also the 22 man squad thing is a bit of a red herring....yes its there, but it was there in the summer window too, it comes across in that article as a new thing for this window which it isn't. It was brought in alongside the salary caps to stop the likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth having 30 (experienced) men squads, levelling the playing field whilst at the same time promoting younger home grown players.

Time will tell, there's over three weeks to go, but the article strikes me as one which is looking for us to play down any expectations we may have had about lots of big name quality replacements coming in this month. In the current financial climate that probably makes sense though.......good housekeeping and all that.

I donít really disagree with any of that but it would have been helpful if the Chairman hadnít told us on his recent Zoom interview that Curle needed to bring more league one quality players in as it sounds like they arenít on the same page? Iím of a mind that if he can bring 2 or 3 quality loans in, be they under 21 or otherwise, then I would be happy but it would have been useful if KT hadnít raised expectations in his interview.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 06, 2021, 09:27:28 am
Given the enforced reduction in squad sizes vis a vie the situation with Holmes etc, there has to be some quality kicking around towards the end of the window, there just has to be? I know this was said in the summer, but no one seemed to be able to predict just how cavalier the majority of chairman are? This time they donít have a choice. I have already asked my question on the Q&A but one of the additional ones I would have put to Curle would have been, ďhow many players recruited pre season were first choice selections. I reckon Mills is the only one and wouldnít be surprised if some were 3rd or even fourth choice? We need some first choice players in this window. That is if we are still insisting on recruiting at all which is still fraught with danger IMO.
I think ďLast ChoiceĒ would be nearer the mark for some of the dross we had and still have.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 06, 2021, 09:28:56 am
I donít really disagree with any of that but it would have been helpful if the Chairman hadnít told us on his recent Zoom interview that Curle needed to bring more league one quality players in as it sounds like they arenít on the same page? Iím of a mind that if he can bring 2 or 3 quality loans in, be they under 21 or otherwise, then I would be happy but it would have been useful if KT hadnít raised expectations in his interview.
Letís wait and see, for sure if we get relegated Curle has to go so if I was Keith Iíd be Zooming KT saying whatís my budget for these L1 standard players you promised the fans?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 06, 2021, 09:38:03 am
I know circumstances have changed rapidly throughout this season and last, but If we were not going to invest big I would have probably tried my luck with  Jnr.Mcwilliams and Jay Williams rather than some of the dross we signed. 

The problem is now I don't know if I would twist again, What if we end up with Turnbull esq contracts and the season is ended a fortnight later.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 06, 2021, 09:49:04 am
It's about managing expectation.
Our expectation as fans is always going to exceed reality however it is up to those dealing with the reality to project and get us alongside to understand and have empathy for that reality.
At certain times it is natural for expectations to be blown up/exaggerated, especially when season ticket renewal is imminent for example.  However, during this currently crisis, we are not all idiots and understand the reality.  The fact that the CEO has increased that expectation during his latest interview from Florida hasn't helped the manager, who has in my opinion quite rightly dampened it to more reflect his working reality.
How that is received by the CEO could be interesting or is it a case of the manager dampening the expectation or suggesting low with the intention of delivering slightly higher? 
Again, in my opinon, as long as we have a club to support when full spectator football returns, whatever division we find ourselves in, would be sufficient.
I would prefer it to be with the current manager, but other parties and situations will have more influence in that decision.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 06, 2021, 10:19:36 am
It will be interesting to listen to the podcast with KT, KC and James Whiting to see if everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 06, 2021, 11:51:00 am
I donít really disagree with any of that but it would have been helpful if the Chairman hadnít told us on his recent Zoom interview that Curle needed to bring more league one quality players in as it sounds like they arenít on the same page? Iím of a mind that if he can bring 2 or 3 quality loans in, be they under 21 or otherwise, then I would be happy but it would have been useful if KT hadnít raised expectations in his interview.

To be honest I donít think KT is wrong in that to help us to stay up we do need a few league 1 quality players, the problem though is that is easier said than done. We have zero chance of getting players in who are currently performing well at league 1 level, so we are going to have to gambl, maybe players out of favour at other teams in the league who they donít deem are league 1 level but KC believes he can turn around. The same goes for players in the championship on low wages, or the other options is young players on loan with little experience but KC thinks can step up.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 06, 2021, 12:19:37 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-says-cobblers-have-money-available-spend-january-insists-he-wont-pay-over-odds-3086986


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 06, 2021, 12:53:14 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-says-cobblers-have-money-available-spend-january-insists-he-wont-pay-over-odds-3086986

It seems weird to let everyone know you have money as it will only encourage everyone to ask for more, even if you say you wonít pay over the odds it just makes it more likely deals wonít happen.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 06, 2021, 12:55:08 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-says-cobblers-have-money-available-spend-january-insists-he-wont-pay-over-odds-3086986
Cut and paste from the summer, weíve got a couple of quid, wonít pay over the odds, young hungry players.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 06, 2021, 13:03:28 pm
It seems weird to let everyone know you have money as it will only encourage everyone to ask for more, even if you say you wonít pay over the odds it just makes it more likely deals wonít happen.
Doesnít always quite work like that though? Sometimes you demand too much and a club goes for an alternative and you end up with nothing? Didnít seem to go like that in the summer I confess but itís still a realistic scenario?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 06, 2021, 13:52:18 pm
It seems weird to let everyone know you have money as it will only encourage everyone to ask for more, even if you say you wonít pay over the odds it just makes it more likely deals wonít happen.

Exactly my thoughts. He is trying to play poker with his cards face up on the table.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on January 06, 2021, 15:02:06 pm
Other Clubs will know that NTFC have some money available. They are hardly giving away state secrets by making it public. Football is a very close knit business Clubs/Chairman will always have an idea how much money other clubs do or don't have. Think people are trying to look at things that aren't there or aren't relevant.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 06, 2021, 15:47:32 pm
I can't see much business being done with the current uncertainty about whether the League will be suspended, whether the season will be played out and how pormotion and relegation will be decided if it isn't. I can see many players and clubs hanging on till the last week of the window to see how the land lies.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2021, 17:57:07 pm
 
Other Clubs will know that NTFC have some money available. .................................etc

Says it all really .The reported £1m for Goode and the Cup Run ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 06, 2021, 18:04:02 pm
 
Says it all really .The reported £1m for Goode and the Cup Run ::)

Someone should have told shoey then!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on January 06, 2021, 18:15:34 pm
Not more money, less debt!.................there is a massive difference.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 06, 2021, 18:27:41 pm
Not more money, less debt!.................there is a massive difference.

Wow great observation! You could argue that it works both ways!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 06, 2021, 20:44:04 pm
Junior Morias has left St.Mirren to join Boreham Wood for the rest of the season on loan, he will then be out of contract. According to wiki when he joined us it was for an undisclosed 6 figure fee.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on January 06, 2021, 23:03:37 pm
Junior Morias has left St.Mirren to join Boreham Wood for the rest of the season on loan, he will then be out of contract. According to wiki when he joined us it was for an undisclosed 6 figure fee.

I can well understand why we might have felt a £100k fee for him was a **** worth taking. He had a sharp burst of pace, a fierce shot and a real determination about him. You'd think he could be a real handful at National League level - Boreham Wood have 31 league games to play to the end of their season. He's still only 25.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2021, 09:52:48 am
Other Clubs will know that NTFC have some money available. They are hardly giving away state secrets by making it public. Football is a very close knit business Clubs/Chairman will always have an idea how much money other clubs do or don't have. Think people are trying to look at things that aren't there or aren't relevant.

How often do we make the money from cup runs and player sales available for the manager in the transfer market?

These are normally just swept under the carpet into the operating pot.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 07, 2021, 10:02:08 am
How often do we make the money from cup runs and player sales available for the manager in the transfer market?

These are normally just swept under the carpet into the operating pot.

Very similar to the majority of other clubs...we aren't the only club operating at a loss!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2021, 11:26:26 am
Very similar to the majority of other clubs...we aren't the only club operating at a loss!!

So the point is its not possible for a selling club to determine if we have money to spend until either the manager or chairman confirms this is the case. Something which KC has done.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 07, 2021, 11:36:45 am
So the point is its not possible for a selling club to determine if we have money to spend until either the manager or chairman confirms this is the case. Something which KC has done.

He is between a rock and a hard place. There is a difference between him showing his hand and the fan base repeatedly telling him to show his hand or leave.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 07, 2021, 15:07:39 pm
Where is NTFCLad  ;)

Looking for some genuine names linked


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 07, 2021, 15:12:29 pm
Where is NTFCLad  ;)

Looking for some genuine names linked

I'm sure when there's something to say he'll be back  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on January 07, 2021, 16:02:39 pm
He is between a rock and a hard place. There is a difference between him showing his hand and the fan base repeatedly telling him to show his hand or leave.

I can't see how the amount of money we have to spend is relevant, it's not poker. It's more to do with how much the player is worth and how little money the selling club has. I don't remember us getting a great deal for Ivan Toney because Newcastle are loaded.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 07, 2021, 16:06:12 pm
https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1061604264?-1873:986

How much would we get for him?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 07, 2021, 16:21:23 pm
I can't see how the amount of money we have to spend is relevant, it's not poker. It's more to do with how much the player is worth and how little money the selling club has. I don't remember us getting a great deal for Ivan Toney because Newcastle are loaded.
So you think Toney was worth peanuts when we sold him and Goode a million?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on January 07, 2021, 16:44:27 pm
https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1061604264?-1873:986

How much would we get for him?

Tribunal to decide, £75-100K.

Is he not under a pro contract yet?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2021, 16:51:09 pm
So you think Toney was worth peanuts when we sold him and Goode a million?

I think Larry has a good point and to use the Toney v Goode as an example doesnít make sense to me? Thought it was common knowledge that Toney was sold below market value and quiet chuckle when Goode was sold for reported £1m+. Would be interesting to learn of your reasoning behind your assertion above?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 07, 2021, 17:29:23 pm
Southampton are the premiership club interested in chuks....as are Norwich and Bournemouth


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: rodger on January 07, 2021, 17:41:03 pm
Club Brugge are interested in Chukwemeka according to Sky Sports.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on January 07, 2021, 20:24:04 pm
Club Brugge are interested in Chukwemeka according to Sky Sports.

For next to nothing..
the number of first team games he has played increases tribunal fee..KC not silly..


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 07, 2021, 20:57:07 pm
for me , Toney was a much better looking prospect when he was here than Chuck appears to be currently.
Toney had a swagger and looked like he would score every game . Chuck has pace but i would grab £300k and run . Sadly it will be less than that .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on January 07, 2021, 21:20:12 pm
So you think Toney was worth peanuts when we sold him and Goode a million?

My point is that it's irrelevant how much money the buying club has. What's important is how much the player is worth and how badly the selling club need the money.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 07, 2021, 21:23:42 pm
Chuks is still under a scholarship contract til 2022 so if we're offered peanuts then why the desperation to sell?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 08, 2021, 10:43:09 am
A scholarship contract and a professional contract are two different entities entirely....if we had two years of a pro-contract left with Chuks we would be receiving a fee that would dwarf the nominal fee we will get, the fee will be dictated by a tribunal and will take into account the training and investment we have put into his career thus far!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 08, 2021, 13:20:35 pm
A twittersphere link so taking with a fistful of salt....

But linked with David Tutonda of Bristol Rovers
25 year old LB/LWB
Once of Cardiff but most experience with Barnet in L2 and Conf


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 08, 2021, 19:25:18 pm
We are mentioned as being interested in taking 20 year old Brighton striker Danny Cashman on loan, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham also want him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 08, 2021, 20:17:15 pm
We are mentioned as being interested in taking 20 year old Brighton striker Danny Cashman on loan, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham also want him.
Just what we need a unproven U21 prem kid who has never played a competitive game in the efl.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 08, 2021, 20:37:45 pm
That's pretty much what you said last January when we signed Callum Morton who also had not played in the efl. What a disaster that turned out to be.
You ridicule practically every signing we make including when we signed Vadaine Oliver and then you criticise the club for not doing enough to keep him at the end of the season. I think we are better off trusting KC's judgement.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 08, 2021, 20:41:50 pm
Just what we need a unproven U21 prem kid who has never played a competitive game in the efl.

17 year old Louie Barry not doing that bad for Aston Villa tonight.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 08, 2021, 21:05:51 pm
17 year old Louie Barry not doing that bad for Aston Villa tonight.
Is that Gareth's boy?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on January 08, 2021, 21:11:59 pm
Is that Gareth's boy?

Barry Lines bastard offspring.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 08, 2021, 21:23:09 pm
That's pretty much what you said last January when we signed Callum Morton who also had not played in the efl. What a disaster that turned out to be.
You ridicule practically every signing we make including when we signed Vadaine Oliver and then you criticise the club for not doing enough to keep him at the end of the season. I think we are better off trusting KC's judgement.
We got very lucky with Morton, itís a message board itís my opinion, donít take it so seriously, itís all that train driving  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on January 08, 2021, 22:04:17 pm
A fair bit of Louis Barry's shirt is already claret. Just saying...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 09, 2021, 12:20:20 pm
Our head of recruitment has said that we are looking to fill the 2 vacancies in the squad "with forward players who have pace and guile". Also more likely to be loans.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 09, 2021, 12:26:15 pm
A fair bit of Louis Barry's shirt is already claret. Just saying...
Absolutely.
Nothing to do with G Barry, a useless stab in the dark from me.
Reminded of R Totale, Charles1 and Pan however.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 09, 2021, 12:47:53 pm
A fair bit of Louis Barry's shirt is already claret. Just saying...

One of your better sayings!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 09, 2021, 13:14:55 pm
Our head of recruitment has said that we are looking to fill the 2 vacancies in the squad "with forward players who have pace and guile". Also more likely to be loans.

I saw the article but that  doesnít really make much sense to me with the 5-3-2 currently used, where are they going to play?. Unless they are strong enough to hold the ball up too which wasnít mentioned then surely they are only competing with Rose for a place in the side? If we are considering using a 5-2-1-2 as mentioned by manwork then why not use Holmes? Personally would like to see us bring in another all action central midfielder, if possible with a bit more creativity and a proper wing back not a winger playing as wing back.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 10, 2021, 08:46:11 am
Our head of recruitment has said that we are looking to fill the 2 vacancies in the squad "with forward players who have pace and guile". Also more likely to be loans.

Sounds like we are waiting for Ricky to get a deal somewhere then signing him back on loan...?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 11, 2021, 12:31:34 pm
Load of Twitter noise just thrown up on Peter Kioso as a loan signing

From Luton. Just recalled from his loan at Bolton. RB/RWB



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 11, 2021, 13:01:41 pm
Kioso seems to have well at Bolton, scoring 3 times in 13 appearances. I don't know where Bolton were playing him but according to wiki he is a right back.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2021, 13:15:35 pm
Load of Twitter noise just thrown up on Peter Kioso as a loan signing

From Luton. Just recalled from his loan at Bolton. RB/RWB


I appreciate your messages but could you please consider supplying the link ? This is because I like to read them as well! Sometimes when I Goggle for a source I end up with leads to MKDons, Oxford , Swindon and occasionally Hartlepool!

,,,# disgruntled!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 11, 2021, 13:20:39 pm
I appreciate your messages but could you please consider supplying the link ? This is because I like to read them as well! Sometimes when I Goggle for a source I end up with leads to MKDons, Oxford , Swindon and occasionally Hartlepool!

,,,# disgruntled!
what's Goggle Cecil?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on January 11, 2021, 13:51:40 pm
Regarding Kioso;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55619668?at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=Regional+BBC+East&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=link&at_campaign=64&at_custom4=7FC29822-5412-11EB-8DC3-69004844363C


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 11, 2021, 13:57:07 pm
Luton supporters think he may have been recalled as Bree has picked up an injury. Mind you the Sun reporter who thinks he is heading our way has been right before.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on January 11, 2021, 14:03:46 pm
Luton manager said about wanting to have a look at him but will probably send him back out on loan.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 11, 2021, 14:10:54 pm
Apologies will include links in future

Found a few places quoting that Nathan Jones would only recall him if he was part of the first team plans..

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19001675.luton-town-stun-bolton-wanderers-surprise-peter-kioso-loan-recall/

Time will tell I guess


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 11, 2021, 15:04:47 pm
I reckon this rumour has some wheels on it. I've also been saying that a wing back should be our number1 priority this window. If we could get a decent one (and this guy appears to be good), Mills gets fit...then the dynamics of our team would vastly change.

Im convinced that the primary reason why we get pinned back in the 2nd half of matches is because by that point, Adams is shot to bits and cant make it past the half way line. That effectively shoves the defence line back 10-15 metres.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on January 11, 2021, 15:15:34 pm
Apologies will include links in future

Found a few places quoting that Nathan Jones would only recall him if he was part of the first team plans..

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19001675.luton-town-stun-bolton-wanderers-surprise-peter-kioso-loan-recall/

Time will tell I guess

But does Nathan Jones think he's been gone too long? (sorry I couldn't resist)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 11, 2021, 16:10:35 pm
Same with Tutonda, though they both play on different sides of the pitch. Imagine it'll be one or the other though, if either are correct, as neither are under-21.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 11, 2021, 16:40:21 pm
I reckon this rumour has some wheels on it. I've also been saying that a wing back should be our number1 priority this window. If we could get a decent one (and this guy appears to be good), Mills gets fit...then the dynamics of our team would vastly change.

Im convinced that the primary reason why we get pinned back in the 2nd half of matches is because by that point, Adams is shot to bits and cant make it past the half way line. That effectively shoves the defence line back 10-15 metres.

Out of interest am I the only one that thinks Mills is a poor mans Harriman?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on January 11, 2021, 16:48:18 pm
Out of interest am I the only one that thinks Mills is a poor mans Harriman?
YES.

Harriman is a good consistant RIGHT back. His form dipped for a couple of games after 7 weeks of Saturday/ midweek games in different positions.

Mils is a good attacking WING back who can set up and score goals.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 11, 2021, 16:55:35 pm
YES.

Harriman is a good consistant RIGHT back. His form dipped for a couple of games after 7 weeks of Saturday/ midweek games in different positions.

Mils is a good attacking WING back who can set up and score goals.

plus 1.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 11, 2021, 16:56:56 pm
YES.

Harriman is a good consistant RIGHT back. His form dipped for a couple of games after 7 weeks of Saturday/ midweek games in different positions.

Mils is a good attacking WING back who can set up and score goals.

Whilst I've watched every day Mills has played, I cant recall being overly impressed. Seems to lack pace for a wing back, something Harriman seems to have a fair bit of.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 11, 2021, 17:03:11 pm
YES.

Harriman is a good consistant RIGHT back. His form dipped for a couple of games after 7 weeks of Saturday/ midweek games in different positions.

Mils is a good attacking WING back who can set up and score goals.

Interestingly, Mills averages 0.05 goals per game over 267 games and Harriman 0.03 over 257.

Looks like you'd be mad to bet on either! 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 11, 2021, 17:43:18 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 11, 2021, 20:07:52 pm
Interestingly, Mills averages 0.05 goals per game over 267 games and Harriman 0.03 over 257.

Looks like you'd be mad to bet on either! 
Even more interestingly his goals per game ratio has more than trebled since joining Forest Green at over .17 per game scoring 14 in 83. Prior to that he scored 4 in 184, so he has become quite prolific in his position in the last couple of seasons? Have to careful with stats, depends how you present them?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/joseph-mills/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/81876


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 12, 2021, 04:12:26 am
MYOB
I used goggle to look up MYOB and its very rude.
 :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 12, 2021, 09:43:02 am
Even more interestingly his goals per game ratio has more than trebled since joining Forest Green at over .17 per game scoring 14 in 83. Prior to that he scored 4 in 184, so he has become quite prolific in his position in the last couple of seasons? Have to careful with stats, depends how you present them?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/joseph-mills/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/81876

Indeed interesting.

Harriman was a .15 per game man when at Wycombe a couple of years ago over 45 games. I wonder why he hasn't been able to build on that.

I guess both Mills and Harriman are now a 0 per game men as neither have managed a goal in the league.  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 12, 2021, 11:13:52 am
Mills has scored 2 from 7 in all competitions though, so once again it depends on how you pick the stats.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 12, 2021, 11:17:43 am
I don't get the Mills Bashing, He looks a very promising signing from what I saw of him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3264 on January 12, 2021, 11:29:23 am
I don't get the Mills Bashing, He looks a very promising signing from what I saw of him.
Only mysteriouc curle has that opinion so no bashing.

We are missing the attacking balance he gives on the left.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 12, 2021, 11:32:30 am
I used goggle to look up MYOB and its very rude.
 :P

Sincere apologies had no intention to upset you >:D  Never had you down as a sweetie? Still ..........


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 11:33:07 am
The rule on here is any dispute on stats is resolved by GPC, heíll have this cleared up in about 5 minutes?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2021, 12:19:26 pm
The rule on here is any dispute on stats is resolved by GPC, heíll have this cleared up in about 5 minutes?

Wrong  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 14:34:13 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 14:53:00 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/more-players-could-depart-cobblers-january-3092158


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 12, 2021, 15:03:03 pm
The rule on here is any dispute on stats is resolved by GPC, heíll have this cleared up in about 5 minutes?

 ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on January 12, 2021, 15:31:43 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/more-players-could-depart-cobblers-january-3092158

The line about Joe Nutall being off the loan list was interesting. Did I miss something earlier ? I thought he was here for the season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2021, 16:16:43 pm
The line about Joe Nutall being off the loan list was interesting. Did I miss something earlier ? I thought he was here for the season.

Yes, you did miss it earlier. He was taken off the squad list to make room for Lloyd Jones signing - only a squad of 22 is allowed (players over the age of 21).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2021, 16:18:06 pm
Yes, you did miss it earlier. He was taken off the squad list to make room for Lloyd Jones signing - only a squad of 22 is allowed (players over the age of 21).

As far as Iím aware though we will be paying his wages for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2021, 16:23:37 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/more-players-could-depart-cobblers-january-3092158

Martin & Marshall spring to mind.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2021, 16:27:14 pm
As far as Iím aware though we will be paying his wages for the rest of the season.

In discussions with Blackpool according to KT or JW from the blog that was recorded last week.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on January 12, 2021, 16:42:51 pm
Yes, you did miss it earlier. He was taken off the squad list to make room for Lloyd Jones signing - only a squad of 22 is allowed (players over the age of 21).

Thanks for this. An extraordinarily regrettable situation all round - I bet that cost us a pretty penny - £s per minutes on pitch.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 12, 2021, 17:03:31 pm
Indeed, as Blackpool would have been banking on us paying a percentage/all of his wages, therefore removing him from their wage bill and reducing pressure caused by the wage cap.

What happens if they are right on the £2.5m limit and we are trying to negotiate some of Nuttalls wages back to Blackpool thereby putting them over the threshold?

36 minutes he managed to play for us.....36 minutes!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 17:17:13 pm
This one on loan broke down, shouldn't they have given us another one?
That's what used to happen down at Econimotor when the car packed up the next day.... 8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 12, 2021, 17:28:45 pm
In discussions with Blackpool according to KT or JW from the blog that was recorded last week.

Interested to hear if they said anything else on the subject?

Did they agree it was a **** up?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 12, 2021, 18:17:50 pm
Interested to hear if they said anything else on the subject?

Did they agree it was a **** up?

They said he had an injury when he arrived but thought they could get him fit. It then became clear his injury was more serious, he returned to Blackpool, had an operation and is now in rehab. There was no admitting anything was done wrong from this end. I think they said he even had a meeting/s before he signed. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 12, 2021, 19:02:01 pm
They said he had an injury when he arrived but thought they could get him fit. It then became clear his injury was more serious, he returned to Blackpool, had an operation and is now in rehab. There was no admitting anything was done wrong from this end. I think they said he even had a meeting/s before he signed. 

Did they say that they "had a report" from Blackpool on the injury? Doesn't sound like he had much of a fitness test before coming to us......which I guess if you're being told one thing by Blackpool then you take that as it is and make your decision accordingly. Also i'd guess that fitness tests for loan players might be rarer than if you were shelling out money for someone?

That will be the subject of the "discussions" between the two clubs I guess.....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2021, 21:34:02 pm
Mills is definitely not the answer to our problems, Iíve been totally underwhelmed by him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 12, 2021, 21:36:10 pm
Mills is definitely not the answer to our problems, Iíve been totally underwhelmed by him.

Must be a wind up, I thought everyone on here loved the guy?  >:D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 12, 2021, 21:36:39 pm
Mills is definitely not the answer to our problems, Iíve been totally underwhelmed by him.
Doesnt help playing him and Hoskins in the same position, almost


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on January 12, 2021, 21:41:04 pm
Hoskins is not warranting his place in the Team IMO. Mills has just got back from injury, think he deserves a bit of slack!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 12, 2021, 22:08:10 pm
Hoskins is not warranting his place in the Team IMO. Mills has just got back from injury, think he deserves a bit of slack!

Interesting fact, Super Sam has not scored a goal from open play at home in any game since September 2019 (31 games and counting)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2021, 22:11:08 pm
Super **** Sam sums up Curles team, loads of effort, Zero quality.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 22:12:23 pm
Nuttal injured, Racic poor despite glowing references, Mills injured, McWilliams injured/suspended, budget restricted more than others. Oh, and the entire spine of the first choice promotion winning side gone, thatís Goode, Horsfall, McCormack, Oliver, Morton. Looking at that list I reckon Curle had control over 2 perhaps 3 of those events? The continuity was ripped apart and it was almost inevitable we would struggle given that the circumstances? He perhaps hasnít helped himself at times with selections, style of play and the Holmes situation but given all that I think in any other business the mitigating circumstances would give Curle considerable leeway? IMO if Curle had been recruited by a club higher up the ladder following promotion no matter who we would have brought in to replace him I think we would have struggled looking at how events unfolded? No matter what you do you still need that rub of the green and it has deserted us this season? That pretty much sums up my view on things.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2021, 22:22:20 pm
Nuttal injured, Racic poor despite glowing references, Mills injured, McWilliams injured/suspended, budget restricted more than others. Oh, and the entire spine of the first choice promotion winning side gone, thatís Goode, Horsfall, McCormack, Oliver, Morton. Looking at that list I reckon Curle had control over 2 perhaps 3 of those events? The continuity was ripped apart and it was almost inevitable we would struggle given that the circumstances? He perhaps hasnít helped himself at times with selections, style of play and the Holmes situation but given all that I think in any other business the mitigating circumstances would give Curle considerable leeway? IMO if Curle had been recruited by a club higher up the ladder following promotion no matter who we would have brought in to replace him I think we would have struggled looking at how events unfolded? No matter what you do you still need that rub of the green and it has deserted us this season? That pretty much sums up my view on things.
Horsfall?
Itís all those late nights posting on here  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 22:26:14 pm
Horsfall?
Itís all those late nights posting on here  ;)
Wharton, itís was spell checker!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on January 12, 2021, 22:34:15 pm
Keith says we have agreements in place with clubs and players but just need ink on paper.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 12, 2021, 22:36:39 pm
Keith says we have agreements in place with clubs and players but just need ink on paper.

Lost the bloody pen again??


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on January 12, 2021, 22:38:05 pm
Lost the bloody pen again??

It's on furlough.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2021, 22:53:04 pm
Lost the bloody pen again??
You canít make it up  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on January 12, 2021, 22:59:38 pm
Wharton, itís was spell checker!

Turnbull ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 12, 2021, 23:00:46 pm
Nuttal injured, Racic poor despite glowing references, Mills injured, McWilliams injured/suspended, budget restricted more than others. Oh, and the entire spine of the first choice promotion winning side gone, thatís Goode, Horsfall, McCormack, Oliver, Morton. Looking at that list I reckon Curle had control over 2 perhaps 3 of those events? The continuity was ripped apart and it was almost inevitable we would struggle given that the circumstances? He perhaps hasnít helped himself at times with selections, style of play and the Holmes situation but given all that I think in any other business the mitigating circumstances would give Curle considerable leeway? IMO if Curle had been recruited by a club higher up the ladder following promotion no matter who we would have brought in to replace him I think we would have struggled looking at how events unfolded? No matter what you do you still need that rub of the green and it has deserted us this season? That pretty much sums up my view on things.

I think this seasonís struggles were inevitable after the summers recruitment, itís easy to speak with hindsight but I was one of many at the time who wasnít impressed with the standard of players coming in and also the make up of the squad knowing the way KC play. This is opinion but Iím not convinced the budget is one of the lowest few in the division not forgetting fees were also payed for players. I also think an odd player and a few tweaks can complete change a team, you just need to look at the end of last season when we went from a bang average team to one who steamrolled over other top teams.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 12, 2021, 23:13:29 pm
Turnbull ?
Good point, Turnbull as well, looking back it was carnage wasnít it? To have that many changes and then pick up where you left off and compete in a higher division on a comparatively minimal budget was a always a massive challenge? Especially when the squad you do have is turning up with sick notes left right and centre I just think expectations are a bit out of whack? As I said Keith doesnít always help himself granted but does anyone really think a new bloke would change our fortunes? Looking at the big picture and considering the unpredictability of the Covid situation there is absolutely no chance of KT pulling the plug on KC, not after all the managerial recruitment issues of the past? I donít think everyone will be entirely happy with that outcome though?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 12, 2021, 23:41:22 pm
Good point, Turnbull as well, looking back it was carnage wasnít it? To have that many changes and then pick up where you left off and compete in a higher division on a comparatively minimal budget was a always a massive challenge? Especially when the squad you do have is turning up with sick notes left right and centre I just think expectations are a bit out of whack? As I said Keith doesnít always help himself granted but does anyone really think a new bloke would change our fortunes? Looking at the big picture and considering the unpredictability of the Covid situation there is absolutely no chance of KT pulling the plug on KC, not after all the managerial recruitment issues of the past? I donít think everyone will be entirely happy with that outcome though?
Shrewsbury Town, I rest my case.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 13, 2021, 00:24:34 am
Shrewsbury Town, I rest my case.
Bugger!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 13, 2021, 08:08:10 am


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 13, 2021, 08:35:39 am
Looks like Ryan Edmondson from Leeds is incoming today on loan!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 13, 2021, 09:09:21 am
Looks like Ryan Edmondson from Leeds is incoming today on loan!

I hope heís good at creating something out of nothing as heís not going to get any service.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 13, 2021, 10:18:45 am
I hope heís good at creating something out of nothing as heís not going to get any service.

Bit judgemental?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 13, 2021, 10:22:29 am
I think this seasonís struggles were inevitable after the summers recruitment, itís easy to speak with hindsight but I was one of many at the time who wasnít impressed with the standard of players coming in and also the make up of the squad knowing the way KC play. This is opinion but Iím not convinced the budget is one of the lowest few in the division not forgetting fees were also payed for players. I also think an odd player and a few tweaks can complete change a team, you just need to look at the end of last season when we went from a bang average team to one who steamrolled over other top teams.

We didnt stamroller teams apart from Cheltenham 2nd and Exeter the rest was dire and we were on a downward spiral


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2021, 10:22:56 am
He fits KCís strategy to signing players who showed promise in the past but things havenít been working out for lately, heís had some injuries and a poor loan that Aberdeen cut short. From what Iíve read definitely doesnít seem to be the tricky pacy type player ST talked about signing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 13, 2021, 10:25:24 am
Bit judgemental?

When you consider how many goals weíve scored this season and how many blanks weíve recorded especially at home I donít think itís particularly judgmental.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 13, 2021, 10:44:18 am
He fits KCís strategy to signing players who showed promise in the past but things havenít been working out for lately, heís had some injuries and a poor loan that Aberdeen cut short. From what Iíve read definitely doesnít seem to be the tricky pacy type player ST talked about signing.

I must admit I thought the same - looking on YouTube (that most reliable of sources) he looks like quite a big, bustling type of striker which is very similar to what we already have in Smith, Ashley Seal, Chukwemeka and Rose (to a degree).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 13, 2021, 10:55:18 am
I must admit I thought the same - looking on YouTube (that most reliable of sources) he looks like quite a big, bustling type of striker which is very similar to what we already have in Smith, Ashley Seal, Chukwemeka and Rose (to a degree).

Does it look like he can play wing back?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2021, 10:57:04 am
We didnt stamroller teams apart from Cheltenham 2nd and Exeter the rest was dire and we were on a downward spiral

That was point we went from looking bang average to leagues apart from Cheltenham & Exeter. You could argue those 2 matches were a flash in the pan, but thatís not my gut feeling, there were signs in the first leg where we wasted a number of chances but it was almost like a switch was flicked and we knew we could bully anyone. I would have loved to have seen how this side could have done if kept together.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 13, 2021, 11:22:04 am
any striker in this current set up will have to be completely self sufficient .
He will have to chase down his own opportunities , feed off scraps , hint half chances and bully defenders .
This is exactly what Moreton did and Marquis before him under a different regime.
Any player expecting crosses and neat threaded balls to score from will fail .
There isnít even a target man to play off because Smith is not up to standard .
It will be a tough job .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 13, 2021, 11:55:41 am
That was point we went from looking bang average to leagues apart from Cheltenham & Exeter. You could argue those 2 matches were a flash in the pan, but thatís not my gut feeling, there were signs in the first leg where we wasted a number of chances but it was almost like a switch was flicked and we knew we could bully anyone. I would have loved to have seen how this side could have done if kept together.

I still think we were good value for money in the first leg against Cheltenham. Yes, we lost but we didn't play at all badly and their keeper had a blinder. I think that game should be filed under "one of those days".

Either way, we were mostly sh1t prior to the playoffs and have been mostly sh1t since! ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 13, 2021, 12:21:09 pm
This Ryan Edmondson rumour has gathered pace

Few places saying they expect him to sign today

Anyone seen much of him play?



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 13, 2021, 12:21:40 pm
I still think we were good value for money in the first leg against Cheltenham. Yes, we lost but we didn't play at all badly and their keeper had a blinder. I think that game should be filed under "one of those days".

Either way, we were mostly sh1t prior to the playoffs and have been mostly sh1t since! ;D
agreed .
Defensively and from set pieces , we were very good last season. Plus our aggression when Oliver , Goode and Macca were playing was intimidating .
When we could play the high pressing game and everyone was fit , we were ok but it was no coincidence this only really happened in the last 2 games when the players had been rested because that sort of approach is non sustainable through a whole season with ageing players .
We were dire going forward and terrible retaining the ball last season overall .
This season itís worst and we have none of the attributes mentioned above remaining .
itís a disaster quite honestly and it sits with the manager .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 13, 2021, 12:54:03 pm
Indeed it does sit with Mr Curle, you only have to take a look at this season when we are chasing a game, he takes off the likes of Adams and Marshall and puts on more strikers, BAS and Chucks, Where is the supply coming form when you take off your creative players?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on January 13, 2021, 13:18:31 pm
There is a twitter rumour from a lower league reporter suggesting that some L1/L2/SPL teams after Harry Smith. The tweet suggests we are looking to cash in to strengthen the team.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 13, 2021, 13:27:50 pm
Indeed it does sit with Mr Curle, you only have to take a look at this season when we are chasing a game, he takes off the likes of Adams and Marshall and puts on more strikers, BAS and Chucks, Where is the supply coming form when you take off your creative players?

I really think this shows a level of tactical naivety. It's fine in stoppage time when the opponent is camping in their own box and you wnat to flood the box at set peices ect, but when you are not creating any chances it does not work.

Replacing creative players with strikers will make the problem worse. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 13, 2021, 13:28:42 pm
We didnt stamroller teams apart from Cheltenham 2nd and Exeter the rest was dire and we were on a downward spiral

Mr Happy says we may be doomed >:D

Why are you so anti club; it appears to go back a long time?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2021, 13:38:39 pm
There is a twitter rumour from a lower league reporter suggesting that some L1/L2/SPL teams after Harry Smith. The tweet suggests we are looking to cash in to strengthen the team.



Really!?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Maycock91 on January 13, 2021, 13:57:13 pm
Hi guys, Iím a Leeds fan but live in northants so always look out for cobblers Ryan would be a quality player his a unit as well Iíd say an upgrade from a vadaine Oliver type of striker scored bags of goals for the under 23s hopefully he will bang in as many as moreton did!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 13, 2021, 14:33:38 pm
ST has said that we are after attacking players with "pace and guile", I hope we get them. It is not surprising that we have scored the fewest goals in division 1 as all season we have lacked creativity. I don't think the MK keeper will have an easier game all season as we never threatened his goal and we have registered too many blanks already.
When we have scored it has often not been through our own good play. Take the Gillingham game, our first goal was from a penalty when their defender had a rush of blood and fouled Rose in a position that was unlikely to lead to a goal and the third goal was a fluke when Sheehan's free kick evaded everybody. The second goal was created by BAS's surge into the box and their keeper parrying the ball to Rose. So only 1 of the 3 was a created goal. The so called creative players have so far been disappointing.
We always look better with Sheehan in the side and with McWilliams's ball winning midfield play but as well as the attacking players we need a ball playing midfielder who can dictate play  and open up defences.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 13, 2021, 14:54:32 pm
There is a twitter rumour from a lower league reporter suggesting that some L1/L2/SPL teams after Harry Smith. The tweet suggests we are looking to cash in to strengthen the team.

I think we can put that one to bed straight away.

Nobody in their right mind would have watched Smith over the last couple of years and thought he's worth a contract.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 13, 2021, 15:05:54 pm
This Ryan Edmondson rumour has gathered pace

Few places saying they expect him to sign today

Anyone seen much of him play?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5j8FqeQN5A

Looks scarily like the highlights video for BAS, I assume if we actually created chances he might score a few also.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 13, 2021, 15:06:38 pm
I think we can put that one to bed straight away.

Nobody in their right mind would have watched Smith over the last couple of years and thought he's worth a contract.
I know someone who did ( unfortunately)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 13, 2021, 15:50:36 pm
I know someone who did ( unfortunately)

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on January 13, 2021, 15:58:09 pm
Well Keith obviously did! As said before the season started we would be lucky to get 5 goals from him all season. As for Hoskins, totally overrated and no way should he be starting every game. McWilliams, Sheehan are the only reliable L1 members of the team


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 13, 2021, 16:13:46 pm
Well Keith obviously did! As said before the season started we would be lucky to get 5 goals from him all season. As for Hoskins, totally overrated and no way should he be starting every game. McWilliams, Sheehan are the only reliable L1 members of the team

Mitchell?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2021, 16:39:14 pm
Well Keith obviously did! As said before the season started we would be lucky to get 5 goals from him all season. As for Hoskins, totally overrated and no way should he be starting every game. McWilliams, Sheehan are the only reliable L1 members of the team

This summers recruitment was an absolute disaster, given the option I would happily release them all at the end of the season, I guess some might find their level if we get relegated.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on January 13, 2021, 17:02:14 pm
Mitchell spooned the ball again twice last night, has proved costly already this season, I remain unconvinced


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 13, 2021, 18:11:28 pm
And I thought that COVID-19 was the thing that people were most concerned about... 8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on January 13, 2021, 18:34:30 pm
This Ryan Edmondson rumour has gathered pace

Few places saying they expect him to sign today

Anyone seen much of him play?



I believe he watched last nights game... rethink?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 13, 2021, 19:08:25 pm
Mr Happy says we may be doomed >:D

Why are you so anti club; it appears to go back a long time?

Didnt take long moderators did it  ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 13, 2021, 22:03:13 pm
Rumours on FB via Twitter that Nicky Adams could be on his way....."a host of clubs interested", with another tweet suggesting he's already talked to three clubs (out of Bolton, Tranmere, Salford and Walsall)

That rumour follows on from this mornings reports that Harry Smith could also be on his way out.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 13, 2021, 22:39:05 pm
Rumours on FB via Twitter that Nicky Adams could be on his way....."a host of clubs interested", with another tweet suggesting he's already talked to three clubs (out of Bolton, Tranmere, Salford and Walsall)

That rumour follows on from this mornings reports that Harry Smith could also be on his way out.

I think if true it would probably make sense for both him and the club. With Mills coming back to fitness heís unlikely to get much game time now and gives him a better chance of securing a contract for next season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on January 13, 2021, 22:48:51 pm
Sadly Nicky ain't the player he used to be and Smith will never be the player we hoped!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 13, 2021, 23:15:38 pm
Sadly Nicky ain't the player he used to be and Smith will never be the player we hoped!
The system and an injury pre-season hasnít helped


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2021, 07:43:34 am
iím afraid to say Adams hasnít the pace or stamina to play wide in the division and it probably is best he moves on .
Smith hasnít any attribute for this division or the one below . if Scottish teams are in for him , i would drive him there myself - providing Nicola letís me in


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on January 14, 2021, 09:32:38 am
iím afraid to say Adams hasnít the pace or stamina to play wide in the division and it probably is best he moves on .

same for marshall and holmes

hoskins has the pace but little ability - but at least he has the legs to get up and down the pitch!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2021, 09:53:02 am
same for marshall and holmes

hoskins has the pace but little ability - but at least he has the legs to get up and down the pitch!

spot on - and exactly what someone inside the club said to me .
There is only Hoskins that can get behind teams which is why he plays .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 14, 2021, 10:54:35 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on January 14, 2021, 11:05:25 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious

As obvious as coming from a club beginning with L and ending in eeds United?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 11:25:17 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious

Any more likely outgoings?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2021, 11:43:19 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious

Glad to see you on the ball again!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 14, 2021, 11:52:50 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious
Thanks Keith


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 11:53:03 am
Could be two in by end of the week...both attacking players on loan, one fairly obvious

A very warm welcome back ntfclad  :)

Now, are several clubs interested in Smith, as rumoured elsewhere?

Any other outs imminent?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ajp on January 14, 2021, 12:42:37 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 14, 2021, 12:59:44 pm
A very warm welcome back ntfclad  :)

Now, are several clubs interested in Smith, as rumoured elsewhere?

Any other outs imminent?

Yeah the interest in Smith is real, hadnít heard the Scottish club connections but Cheltenham and I was told Bristol Rovers last week

Not sure how imminent but certainly think a few are for the exit door


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 14, 2021, 13:16:05 pm
Yeah the interest in Smith is real, hadnít heard the Scottish club connections but Cheltenham and I was told Bristol Rovers last week

Not sure how imminent but certainly think a few are for the exit door
Ross County and Motherwell apparently.
Cobblers trying to bring in (striker?) Ryan Edmondson from Leeds United... according to rumours!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 13:27:07 pm
Yeah the interest in Smith is real, hadnít heard the Scottish club connections but Cheltenham and I was told Bristol Rovers last week

Not sure how imminent but certainly think a few are for the exit door

Would be a right result if we actually got a fee for Smith. Nice bloke but nowhere near good enough for L1 imo

Hopefully, someone desperate will take Martin too!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 13:30:52 pm
Yeah the interest in Smith is real, hadnít heard the Scottish club connections but Cheltenham and I was told Bristol Rovers last week

Not sure how imminent but certainly think a few are for the exit door

Well I guess only time will tell whoís right out of the scouts of those interested clubs and the posters on here who think heís not even up to league standard.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 14, 2021, 13:46:27 pm
Expecting both today

One is a very long-standing target


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 13:52:03 pm
Personally would like to see us go for a right wing back. I would imagine a no go but I see Rendell Williams at Exeter is out of contact in the summer, would love to see the club put in a cheeky bid for him in the hope Exeter cash in rather than let him go on a free. If not though someone in that mould with pace, creativity, a good engine but a reasonable defender too.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: SadOldGit on January 14, 2021, 13:53:11 pm
Would be a right result if we actually got a fee for Smith. Nice bloke but nowhere near good enough for L1 imo

Hopefully, someone desperate will take Martin too!

We could do a 'two-fer'.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on January 14, 2021, 14:01:31 pm
Good to see we're being active in trying to get a proper squad turnaround in this window.

Personally I would be trying to move on for any fee (or free transfer) Arnold, Harriman, Martin, Adams (with a heavy heart), Marshall, Smith, perhaps even Korboa too? Most of these are limited players at League One level and if we freed their wages I'm sure we could improve on them all across the pitch. In the case of Marshall, I think he is capable at this level but he simply doesn't fit KC's system so there seems little point in him staying. I am always surprised by how many on here rate Harriman; I think he isn't nearly aggressive enough in his defending and his technical ability on the ball and his ability to beat his marker is very limited.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 14, 2021, 14:02:52 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/mickel-miller/

New signing lets hope hes not another Nutall


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Athena on January 14, 2021, 14:09:00 pm
Mick the Miller. Won the greyhound derby so be good to have some pace in the team at last.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 14, 2021, 14:16:48 pm
Miller from the Millers then!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 14, 2021, 14:23:56 pm
Looks useful from the 3 minute video. Like the way he fights to win the ball, scored some decent goals and played in team mates for others. Definitely looks like an upgrade.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 14, 2021, 14:28:19 pm
Rotherham fans aren't happy that he has been sent out on loan. That's good enough for me!

Welcome.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2021, 14:32:00 pm
Mick the Miller. Won the greyhound derby so be good to have some pace in the team at last.
i thought it was Mick Miller who was on the Comedians .
in a bid to get some entertainment at the ground at last


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Parklands Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 14:33:32 pm
Looks quick, skilful and has an eye for goal.
KC will soon get that out of him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 14:42:52 pm
Rotherham fans aren't happy that he has been sent out on loan. That's good enough for me!

Welcome.

Thatís promising as at a glance his record this season doesnít look good, 9 appearances, 0 goals, 2 yellows, 1 red


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3419 on January 14, 2021, 14:44:34 pm
Looks quick, skilful and has an eye for goal.
KC will soon get that out of him.
Pace and left footed is a good starting point.

Welcome to the Cobblers.

Now the next attacker!!?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on January 14, 2021, 14:55:31 pm
Good to see we're being active in trying to get a proper squad turnaround in this window.

Personally I would be trying to move on for any fee (or free transfer) Arnold, Harriman, Martin, Adams (with a heavy heart), Marshall, Smith, perhaps even Korboa too? Most of these are limited players at League One level and if we freed their wages I'm sure we could improve on them all across the pitch. In the case of Marshall, I think he is capable at this level but he simply doesn't fit KC's system so there seems little point in him staying. I am always surprised by how many on here rate Harriman; I think he isn't nearly aggressive enough in his defending and his technical ability on the ball and his ability to beat his marker is very limited.
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Agree with all of this, especially your thoughts on Harriman.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 14, 2021, 14:56:23 pm
I'm assume he's never going to play out wide though, so ?? where he fits in to the first 11.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 14, 2021, 15:01:02 pm
I'm assume he's never going to play out wide though, so ?? where he fits in to the first 11.

My thoughts entirely unless Curle is going to change the formation for one player?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 14, 2021, 15:02:53 pm
Well, the long heralded Edmondson joins as well, so further questions I guess unless both Rose and Benny intend to be benched? Please, please, don't be intending to play Miller at Wingback or something Keith.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JohnFrainInThe93rd on January 14, 2021, 15:08:07 pm
Quote from the Rotherham forum...

I was surprised by that news but if we're going to stick with the wing backs then he isn't really going to get any game time. Makes sense for him to go and play.


 ??? ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 14, 2021, 15:11:50 pm
Edmondson and Miller in, feels like 2 good signings

Edmondson more of a target man so will challenge Smith in that role which I think we were desperate for
Smith's work rate has left a lot to be desired of late and young lad will be hungry to show him up and develop

Miller has been a long term Curle target, has a lot of what we lack going forward. Knows Ricky korboa well. Wants to play week in week out and looks like he impressed some Rotherham fans in the Championship so a worthwhile punt

Not bad work today!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 14, 2021, 15:14:54 pm
Two strikers then.....good stuff! Obviously one of the problem areas for us so good to address this.
Whether they both play together or who they keep out of the side is interesting.....

Does this mean Chukwuemeka will be off? Heís presumably just been knocked two pegs down the order, hardly an incentive to sign his first pro contact with us?

Welcome to both the new boys.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 15:26:21 pm
Good to see we're being active in trying to get a proper squad turnaround in this window.

Personally I would be trying to move on for any fee (or free transfer) Arnold, Harriman, Martin, Adams (with a heavy heart), Marshall, Smith, perhaps even Korboa too? Most of these are limited players at League One level and if we freed their wages I'm sure we could improve on them all across the pitch. In the case of Marshall, I think he is capable at this level but he simply doesn't fit KC's system so there seems little point in him staying. I am always surprised by how many on here rate Harriman; I think he isn't nearly aggressive enough in his defending and his technical ability on the ball and his ability to beat his marker is very limited.

I would be tempted to keep Harriman for his versatility. Iím surprised that other than Korboa non of the summer signings are on the list, Missilou & Horsfall have been poor, Bolger, Sowerby and Rose have all been a bit disappointing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on January 14, 2021, 15:35:11 pm
Like the look of the 2 new boys. Perhaps direct replacements for Smith (who is hopefully off) and Holmes?
I wouldnt be surprised to see Adams, Martin and Korboa all go too if anyone will take them.

Martin just isnt very good, Adams (like Holmes) isnt the player he was but should be in demand and Korboa has looked like a competiton winner in the last games he's played - well out of his depth and/or severely lacking in confidence.

If we can get 3 in to replace them, then another centre back, wing back and centre mid would be good.
I guess Marshall could be on his way out too, although I think he has something to offer!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gonzales on January 14, 2021, 15:40:51 pm
Presumably we also need to get working on moving some of these lads on? The squad is getting a bit bloated, we have at least 7 strikers now for example which really isnít necessary, and we seem to have at least 6 players capable (to varying degrees) of playing centre back


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on January 14, 2021, 15:50:24 pm
Edmondson and Miller sounds like a couple of comedians to me. Saw Ade Edmondson on University Challenge, suprisingly well-informed, although Ben Miller not seen since he bowed out of Death in Paradise.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 15:50:28 pm
I'm sure that those over 21s told that they won't be part of the 22 man squad might be doing their own job hunting...if they are told early enough.  8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 14, 2021, 15:52:35 pm
Quote from the Rotherham forum...

I was surprised by that news but if we're going to stick with the wing backs then he isn't really going to get any game time. Makes sense for him to go and play.


 ??? ;D
And from their manager and KC plays with wing backs..... confused

"I pulled him into the office and had a good chat with him. I said: 'You've just got to keep your levels high in training.' He's a very good trainer.

"I could see a little bit of the spark had gone from his face. He was feeling he just wasn't going to get on the pitch. I get it. I don't want to see any of my players suffering. Unfortunately, some of them have to."

The Croydon-born forward had impressed in flashes, particularly in the 3-0 derby win over Sheffield Wednesday, but Rotherham's recent switch to wing-backs in a 3-5-2 system curtailed his game-time.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 14, 2021, 15:52:47 pm
good signings - happy with that .
Keep Sheehan and McWilliams fit and then get the others to up their game 20% .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on January 14, 2021, 15:58:43 pm
Does second half of MK game and these signings suggest that maybe KC is switching to 433 formation?

Miller Edmonson Rose/Hoskins
Watson McWilliams Sowerby
Mills Bolger Jones Harriman

Utilising Sheehan when fit either at LB or CB, also could push Jones to RB in place of Harriman


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 14, 2021, 16:11:09 pm
Keep Sheehan and McWilliams fit and then get the others to up their game 20% .

Do you think operating at 30% will make much difference?  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 16:12:42 pm
Iíve always thought that the system was being driven by the players we were able to sign as much as anything? Desperately need another Sheehan/McCormack influence in midfield though?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 16:16:16 pm
Does second half of MK game and these signings suggest that maybe KC is switching to 433 formation?

Miller Edmonson Rose/Hoskins
Watson McWilliams Sowerby
Mills Bolger Jones Harriman

Utilising Sheehan when fit either at LB or CB, also could push Jones to RB in place of Harriman

It makes sense, but if I canít see KC moving away from a back 5 and is Miller a better option as a wide attacking player than Holmes, I think not.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Rich on January 14, 2021, 16:28:13 pm
Ryan Edmonson is going to be hard to tell apart from Cian Bolger on the screen


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on January 14, 2021, 16:40:24 pm
Just wondering where the supply is going to come from for these, or any other forwards we sign?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 16:49:08 pm
Just wondering where the supply is going to come from for these, or any other forwards we sign?

A more mobile front line provides better targets, maybe it will improve the suppliers with an improvement in options?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 14, 2021, 16:49:40 pm
UPDATED

So as it stands for this season we have: 21 players over 21 years of age

Adams 34
Arnold 31
Ashley-Seal 22
Bolger 28
Harriman 28
Horsfall 24
Hoskins 27
Jones 25
Korboa 24
Marshall 33
Martin 32
McWilliams 22
Miller  25
Mills 31
Missilou 28
Mitchell 26
Rose 27
Sheehan 34
Smith 25
Sowerby 25
Watson 27

Outside the 22 man bracket but still available for selection....

Berry    17
Dyche   17
Flanagan  17
Pollock  19
Cross  17
Chukwuemeka  18
Edmondson 19

Out on Loan

Roberts  20
Warburton 28
Johnston  20




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 14, 2021, 16:51:05 pm
Do you think operating at 30% will make much difference?  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D Brutal


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 14, 2021, 17:24:59 pm
Both sound good on paper, and are at the top level in terms of what we could realistically expect this window.

Unless KC is changing us to a back4, we need a wingback. Our lack of quality on both flanks has been our biggest issue in my opinion; especially in the 2nd half when Adams is shot to bits. We've got no creativity breaking from defence, and when you are spending 90% of the time defending, its kind of a weakness!  ;D

So Im guessing with these signings, it suggests that our tactics are likely to change as well.

A midfielder, someone experienced and who can pick a pass, would be good as well...

My expectations this window were about 4 incomings to spice things up a bit; so a good start to that!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 14, 2021, 18:44:08 pm
My expectations this window were about 4 incomings to spice things up a bit; so a good start to that!

If we stay 3-5-2 its a midfielder and a right wing back, although that would be strange considering the comments regarding Miller and his reasons for wanting away from Rotherham.

If we were to switch to 4-3-3 I would probably opt for an experienced midfielder who can keep possession and a Goal keeper.

4-3-3 I think would be a clever move as it would actually utilize Marshall, Adams , Korboa and Chuck better. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 14, 2021, 18:56:50 pm
Nut - any news on Nugent?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 14, 2021, 19:19:14 pm
Just wondering where the supply is going to come from for these, or any other forwards we sign?

Indeed. While they may be good players and hopefully an improvement on what we've got, it really will only make a difference if they get decent service. BAS, for example, has not fully lived up to expectations, but I haven't seen him miss many chances, because he's hardly had any. The only one I can remember was created by his own run!

If these new players are to shine, they must get better service, which means we need a creative midfielder or a different system.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 20:00:55 pm
Indeed. While they may be good players and hopefully an improvement on what we've got, it really will only make a difference if they get decent service. BAS, for example, has not fully lived up to expectations, but I haven't seen him miss many chances, because he's hardly had any. The only one I can remember was created by his own run!

If these new players are to shine, they must get better service, which means we need a creative midfielder or a different system.

I completely agree about the lack of service. Whether they are better than what weíve got already Iím not convinced I would guess on a similar level, time will tell though as I would have never thought Morton would have turned out to be as great as he was.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 14, 2021, 20:32:38 pm
On being linked with Harry Smith comment on the Motherwell forum last night " great that the first rumour is an experienced player with proven pedigree".
This evening somebody posted that they are expecting a signing to be announced tomorrow, will it be our Harry?.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 14, 2021, 20:44:08 pm
Well done NTFC. Looks like a concerted effort to keep us up.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 14, 2021, 20:44:45 pm
On being linked with Harry Smith comment on the Motherwell forum last night " great that the first rumour is an experienced player with proven pedigree".
This evening somebody posted that they are expecting a signing to be announced tomorrow, will it be our Harry?.
Letís hope so.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 14, 2021, 20:45:45 pm
Well done NTFC. Looks like a concerted effort to keep us up.
Agree, finally we get some quality, I think we need some midfield nous as well.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on January 14, 2021, 21:06:41 pm
Really they bed in quickly we have some tough games coming up


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on January 14, 2021, 21:49:11 pm
I would be tempted to keep Harriman for his versatility. Iím surprised that other than Korboa non of the summer signings are on the list, Missilou & Horsfall have been poor, Bolger, Sowerby and Rose have all been a bit disappointing.

Little bit harsh on Rose given that he's our top scorer (If I'm not mistaken?)

I think both Missilou and Horsfall have more to them than they've have shown. Missilou actually I think would improve us in midfield currently as he likes to press and win the ball back. He should have covered the 3 game absence of McWilliams IMO. Horsfall hasn't been great but I think he has the potential to succeed at this level, his raw physical attributes are impressive and his technique is better than Bolger's. Needs time to improve - which perversely I think will be aided by not actually being in the team week in and out.

I agree with you about Bolger and Sowerby being disappointing.

Final point on Harriman, I'd be interested to see our won/drawn/lost stats with him in the starting eleven versus not. Just a hunch but it feels like we've lost most games he has started in. Seems a good pro but I'm convinced he's not good enough for this level, despite playing well enough in L2 - perhaps why Wycombe eventually replaced him with Jack Grimmer?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 14, 2021, 22:14:51 pm
Little bit harsh on Rose given that he's our top scorer (If I'm not mistaken?)


You are right, joint top scorer with Smith & Hoskins, all 3 have 4 goals (3 league 1 cup). I will accept though that the service has been atrocious this season although that hasnít stopped Smith getting a load of abuse.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 15, 2021, 07:19:12 am
The question is , how is our leader going to integrate both Mills and Miller who both play wide left . One is a wing back and one is a wide forward player. It is possible he may play Miller in the front two but i would have thought he has been brought in to create chances as opposed to finish them .
On the other hand , we have no pace on the right hand side at all unless Hoskins plays right wing back / midfield .
The next signing could well be a right sided player with pace and defensive ability . This would explain the interest in the Luton player and the potential release of Adams .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 15, 2021, 08:47:25 am
On being linked with Harry Smith comment on the Motherwell forum last night " great that the first rumour is an experienced player with proven pedigree".
This evening somebody posted that they are expecting a signing to be announced tomorrow, will it be our Harry?.

I've watched every minute of Smith this season and it's safe to say I'm absolutely amazed.

I'm surprised KC hasn't already driven him to one of these interested clubs to push a deal through!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 15, 2021, 08:48:17 am
Just wondering where the supply is going to come from for these, or any other forwards we sign?

Doesn't one play out wide?

I'm assuming one has come in to supply the other.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 15, 2021, 08:59:02 am
I've watched every minute of Smith this season and it's safe to say I'm absolutely amazed.

I'm surprised KC hasn't already driven him to one of these interested clubs to push a deal through!
There were some games early season where he was the only player coming out with any credit. When he's full of confidence, he can hold the ball up and he's ok with the feet, though he's obviously slow and not half as good in the air as he should be, and as soon as we struggle he dissapears from the game.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on January 15, 2021, 09:27:58 am
to be fair, Smith will probably be a 25+ goals man in Scotland. Andy Kirk, Billy McKay, The Doc etc... even Scott Vernon did OK.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 15, 2021, 09:31:11 am
I've watched every minute of Smith this season and it's safe to say I'm absolutely amazed.

I'm surprised KC hasn't already driven him to one of these interested clubs to push a deal through!

I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 15, 2021, 09:38:55 am
I've said this before, but I seem to be in the minority in rating Smith as a footballer. He's actually very decent with his feet, but his physique means he just gets the ball lumped up to him and he's actually not that good with his head (in open play I mean, his height still makes him a threat at set pieces).

This is where we miss Oliver - he was never about scoring goals, he was all about winning aerial balls with his head or his chest and controlling it well enough to bring others into play.

Smith is expected to do that role now and he's not very good at it. That doesn't make him a bad player, it just doesn't suit his style of play.

In a footballing side where he gets the ball into his feet I think he could do very well.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 15, 2021, 09:39:00 am
I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)
The problems with Smith are, heís lazy and heís got some serious confidence problems coupled with the fact he is too slow to catch a cold itís good business if we can get rid.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2021, 09:42:39 am
I've said this before, but I seem to be in the minority in rating Smith as a footballer. He's actually very decent with his feet, but his physique means he just gets the ball lumped up to him and he's actually not that good with his head (in open play I mean, his height still makes him a threat at set pieces).

I said the exact same to my West Ham supporting friend yesterday, He is a poor mans Peter Crouch. He is a lot better with his feet than people give him credit for and his height makes him a threat for set pieces but he does not play like a target man. He would probably get on better if he was about 3 inches shorter and managers let him play his game.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 15, 2021, 10:06:29 am
Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 15, 2021, 11:11:59 am
Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him



Agree with all this. In the end it doesn't matter whether you think Harry Smith has some talent or not. He is NEVER going to be the kind of player KC wants him to be and we can't afford confidence players given that we're in a relegation battle. We need players who will give everything even when things are going badly, week in, week out. Harry Smith simply doesn't fit the bill, which is why I prefer BAS. He may not be a world beater, but he gives 100% all the time.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 15, 2021, 11:13:11 am
I'd hate to see what someone looks like that's not good with their feet.

In his 25 minute game time of Tuesday, I recall two occasions where he failed to control a simple pass which resulted in the ball rolling out of play for throw ins.

Not sure if everyone else is trying to put a positive spin on it just in case the potential purchasers are looking at this thread?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 15, 2021, 11:33:31 am
i think itís a myth Smith is good with his feet and i see no evidence of it .
He continually mis controls and passes out of play .
he is a poor mans Clive Platt


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 15, 2021, 12:13:50 pm
Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him


Totally agree, always looking for someone else to blame apart from himself. I guess many on here have played in teams with people like that....not good


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 15, 2021, 12:21:48 pm
Motherwell have signed Steven Lawless, midfield player from Burton, so not Harry.
It appears that we tried to sign Edmonson in the summer before he went to Aberdeen. This time Portsmouth,Shrewsbury, Bradford, St.Johnstone and Hamilton Accies were also in for him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2021, 13:04:55 pm
I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)

I think you are right too on Smith. He looked a real handful when he played against us with Macclesfield. It just hasnít paid off and judging by his performance on Tuesday seems out of sorts. As you say he joins a list of failed players and gone onto better things. Hope he does 8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on January 15, 2021, 13:27:31 pm
He didnít look good enough last season and then got injured. A league higher and I donít think we should be surprised that he hasnít performed. His first touch is poor, doesnít act or work like a target man, did think he have turned the corner when he got the brace but then fell out of favour and clearly whatever confidence he previously had is now totally gone.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on January 15, 2021, 15:41:18 pm
i think itís a myth Smith is good with his feet and i see no evidence of it .
He continually mis controls and passes out of play .
he is a poor mans Clive Platt

Hang on, so a rich man would therefore have the REAL Clive Platt?
Sometimes you just can't win!! ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 15, 2021, 15:44:15 pm
Just to add a little balance from what Iíve seen of BAS who seems more at home on the floor than in an upright position isnít the answer we are looking for this season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on January 15, 2021, 15:59:31 pm
Smith isn't an aerial threat in the way Oliver was and BAS seemingly wants to turn defenders and run in behind, for that he needs through balls from midfield. Neither of them match the way we play.
Perhaps our strikers will be more of a threat if someone like Miller can cut crosses back from the byline, of course they have to get in the box first!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 15, 2021, 16:21:47 pm
Smith isn't an aerial threat in the way Oliver was and BAS seemingly wants to turn defenders and run in behind, for that he needs through balls from midfield. Neither of them match the way we play.
Perhaps our strikers will be more of a threat if someone like Miller can cut crosses back from the byline, of course they have to get in the box first!

BAS and also Edmondsun seem to have score a lot of their goals from wingers getting to the byline and cutting the ball back into the box.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 15, 2021, 21:56:29 pm
Just to add a little balance from what Iíve seen of BAS who seems more at home on the floor than in an upright position isnít the answer we are looking for this season.

Bet he starts on Sat  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 15, 2021, 23:04:51 pm
Put Smith in a side playing decent attacking football in league 2 and he will become a completely different player almost overnight? Wrong system, wrong division, wrong end of the table means heís probably at the wrong club? Donít be surprised to see him back in this division as a dangerous player one day? The lad has potential and he was definitely worth a punt? However at this stage of his career putting him in a side that is often parking the bus and clinging on was never going to work? He needs decent service and fans bigging him up, he gets that and watch out. That what I reckon anyway?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on January 15, 2021, 23:36:31 pm
Put Smith in a side playing decent attacking football in league 2 and he will become a completely different player almost overnight? Wrong system, wrong division, wrong end of the table means heís probably at the wrong club? Donít be surprised to see him back in this division as a dangerous player one day? The lad has potential and he was definitely worth a punt? However at this stage of his career putting him in a side that is often parking the bus and clinging on was never going to work? He needs decent service and fans bigging him up, he gets that and watch out. That what I reckon anyway?

+1


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 16, 2021, 09:36:28 am
Also, for me I'm willimg to give BAS time considering he was injured at the start of the season to the extent he couldn't use proper studs, and he's younger than Shaun McWilliams. Willing to **** on the potential being there.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 16, 2021, 10:03:13 am
Also, for me I'm willimg to give BAS time considering he was injured at the start of the season to the extent he couldn't use proper studs, and he's younger than Shaun McWilliams. Willing to **** on the potential being there.
Maybe he could come good in a team that actually gave him some service, I think he should go out on loan where he will play every week then next season have another look at him.
We are in a relegation scrap and itís not the place for BAS.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on January 16, 2021, 10:34:37 am
The problem us we could say that about all our players. Put Adams in a side that feeds him the ball high up the pitch out wide and he would still be racking up assists. Give Sowerby a team that retains the ball and he would look better for us (although I appreciate he at least attempts to pass). Same issues could be said with Marshall, Holmes etc etc.

Same problem with our forwards, the problem for all of them is that we create so few clear cut chances for them as a side because we are on the back foot for the majority of each game. BAS has shown clear improvements in the last few games I think. But to come from U23 football from a premier league side where the ball barely leaves the ground to us is going to require a large adjustment.

I think you could bring in any forward and it would be unlikely they would reach double figures in this side. So because of that I try (not always easy) to cut them a little slack.

Even though Edmundson only has limited game time in his career the positive that I can see is that his ball retention looks good. That will be more tricky with limited bodies around him but hopefully that will help us.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2021, 11:47:21 am
Also, for me I'm willimg to give BAS time considering he was injured at the start of the season to the extent he couldn't use proper studs, and he's younger than Shaun McWilliams. Willing to **** on the potential being there.
Couldn't use proper studs. Like the ones we used to sharpen you mean?
Seriously, how come his injury prevented him from using boots without studs? I would have thought there was greater risk of  injury and further injury in wearing footwear that he clearly couldnt stand up in?



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 16, 2021, 17:53:00 pm
Couldn't use proper studs. Like the ones we used to sharpen you mean?
Seriously, how come his injury prevented him from using boots without studs? I would have thought there was greater risk of  injury and further injury in wearing footwear that he clearly couldnt stand up in?


This is so Cobblers, my feet hurt Keith ....donít worry BAS hereís some of my old slippers try them out, he shouldnít be fcuking playing, it like working on a building site saying Iíve got a headache so Iím not going to wear a hard hat....only at NTFC.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 16, 2021, 17:59:19 pm
No idea with the mechanics behind it, just remember in pre-season that's what was said in the press at the time for why he kept slipping.

I agree that the reinforcements haven't really addressed the issue in the squad at all. I'm amazed that we bought two striker in, though if Smith leaves then maybe it's more justifiable. We had a midfield 3, and I don't know if they know what they're doing or whether they're not executing it. Other than McWilliams who is pressing and trying to tackle as a water-carrier, I'm not sure what the other two do, despite being competent all rounders. Is Watson supposed to be driving forward on the counter like a box-to-box midfielder, to arrive late for the cutbacks. He's not doing that if he is. Is he supposed to be pressing like McWilliams, because he's not doing that either. Is Sowerby supposed to be sitting deep and pinging spot on balls from deep like a Pirlo (which is a tall ask for anyone in this league) or is supposed to be anchoring the midfield and stopping attacks coming in the midfield? Once again, I couldn't really answer what his role is.

Likewise, we have 1 player in the squad that is an actual wing-back, and it's almost the key creative outlet for the formation. You need players who can get up and down the pitch quickly with speed - almost all the wingers being played there out of place are in their 30s, so they either just sit back entirely and give us no passing options, or get caught way up the pitch and let the centre-backs get exposed. More and more they're choosing the former option, and leaving the two strikers to take on three or four players on their own.

We need a decent box-to-box midfielder who can tackle and has the will to want to get forward to support, and we really, really need actual wing-backs.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 16, 2021, 18:14:30 pm
Welly - I think we needed to freshen up the forward line. We've only scored 19 goals in 21 league games, so clearly a problem. Mickel Miller looks like he can supply and hopefully Edmondson, Rose and Ashley-Seal can finish some off.

I do agree though. We need a creative midfielder with some experience and know-how.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 17, 2021, 10:13:39 am
Nut - any news on Nugent?

Looks like JFH is splashing the cash again in the January transfer window...

Same scenario worked so well for us during his time here didn't it?  ::)

https://the72.co.uk/215678/burton-albion-hopeful-of-striking-deal-for-preston-north-end-striker/ (https://the72.co.uk/215678/burton-albion-hopeful-of-striking-deal-for-preston-north-end-striker/)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 17, 2021, 10:14:10 am
Welly - I think we needed to freshen up the forward line. We've only scored 19 goals in 21 league games, so clearly a problem. Mickel Miller looks like he can supply and hopefully Edmondson, Rose and Ashley-Seal can finish some off.

I do agree though. We need a creative midfielder with some experience and know-how.

Well, yes, scoring goals is clearly a problem, but you could only say it's just a problem of the forward line if they're missing hatfuls of chances or wasting good openings in the final third, but generally speaking they're not. We're creating almost nothing in the way of chances.

I think we must either get a proper  wing-back to play on the other side to Mills or change our system to play to the strengths of the players we have. This is what KC thinks he's doing, but most of the time it's not working, because lying deep and hoofing it up from the back to forwards to flick on to the opposition's defence suprisingly leads to constant loss of possession. Complex stuff eh?

Marshall and Hoskins are currently our best bets for creating chances (but not if played as wing-backs), but Marshall's not getting a look in at the moment. Let's hope Mickel Miller fits in well, and can be a creative spark - but he'll have to get the ball first.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 17, 2021, 11:16:19 am
No idea with the mechanics behind it, just remember in pre-season that's what was said in the press at the time for why he kept slipping.

I agree that the reinforcements haven't really addressed the issue in the squad at all. I'm amazed that we bought two striker in, though if Smith leaves then maybe it's more justifiable. We had a midfield 3, and I don't know if they know what they're doing or whether they're not executing it. Other than McWilliams who is pressing and trying to tackle as a water-carrier, I'm not sure what the other two do, despite being competent all rounders. Is Watson supposed to be driving forward on the counter like a box-to-box midfielder, to arrive late for the cutbacks. He's not doing that if he is. Is he supposed to be pressing like McWilliams, because he's not doing that either. Is Sowerby supposed to be sitting deep and pinging spot on balls from deep like a Pirlo (which is a tall ask for anyone in this league) or is supposed to be anchoring the midfield and stopping attacks coming in the midfield? Once again, I couldn't really answer what his role is.

Likewise, we have 1 player in the squad that is an actual wing-back, and it's almost the key creative outlet for the formation. You need players who can get up and down the pitch quickly with speed - almost all the wingers being played there out of place are in their 30s, so they either just sit back entirely and give us no passing options, or get caught way up the pitch and let the centre-backs get exposed. More and more they're choosing the former option, and leaving the two strikers to take on three or four players on their own.

We need a decent box-to-box midfielder who can tackle and has the will to want to get forward to support, and we really, really need actual wing-backs.

+1

If Smith leaves Edmondson makes sense as competition for BAS, Miller baffles me though, is he competition  for Rose? if not where does he play? surely we donít suddenly go to wingers/wide attackers when we didnít for Holmes who is arguably a better player. I wonder if it was a case of a player KC had been chasing a long time suddenly becoming available and signing him because of that rather than because it was what we needed.
Agree completely a central midfielder and wing back would have been my priority.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 17, 2021, 12:38:45 pm
I agree with what virtually everyone is saying we need a wing back, but even then if the new wing back or Mills gets injured we are back in the same position. My problem with KC is that he plays loads of players out of their natural positions, so, if we haven't got wing backs, don't try to put other players in there, play a different formation.
   What his obsession with wing backs is about, god only knows, it's not as if we've looked world beaters using it. Try something which suits the players we have !


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on January 17, 2021, 14:01:47 pm
The problem us we could say that about all our players. Put Adams in a side that feeds him the ball high up the pitch out wide and he would still be racking up assists. Give Sowerby a team that retains the ball and he would look better for us (although I appreciate he at least attempts to pass). Same issues could be said with Marshall, Holmes etc etc.

Same problem with our forwards, the problem for all of them is that we create so few clear cut chances for them as a side because we are on the back foot for the majority of each game. BAS has shown clear improvements in the last few games I think. But to come from U23 football from a premier league side where the ball barely leaves the ground to us is going to require a large adjustment.

I think you could bring in any forward and it would be unlikely they would reach double figures in this side. So because of that I try (not always easy) to cut them a little slack.

Even though Edmundson only has limited game time in his career the positive that I can see is that his ball retention looks good. That will be more tricky with limited bodies around him but hopefully that will help us.
Got to agree with this. Good post your Lordship.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 17, 2021, 18:35:49 pm
I see in the Oxford match program you could download off the club website it had the player stats for league one. It showed the top 5 players in each section, goals scored, most assists, most interceptions, most tackles etc. Out of the entire list there was only one of our players who made it into any of them. Hoskins, who was in 5th place out of the entire division for most shots, with 53 if I remember right?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 17, 2021, 21:23:28 pm
I see in the Oxford match program you could download off the club website it had the player stats for league one. It showed the top 5 players in each section, goals scored, most assists, most interceptions, most tackles etc. Out of the entire list there was only one of our players who made it into any of them. Hoskins, who was in 5th place out of the entire division for most shots, with 53 if I remember right?
Do you remember how many of those went in?  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 17, 2021, 21:25:21 pm
I see in the Oxford match program you could download off the club website it had the player stats for league one. It showed the top 5 players in each section, goals scored, most assists, most interceptions, most tackles etc. Out of the entire list there was only one of our players who made it into any of them. Hoskins, who was in 5th place out of the entire division for most shots, with 53 if I remember right?

We have a way of reviling players particularly on here; I like him and that other maligned player Martin. Strange thing about Hoskins is that he still tops the POTS! Like 'em both!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 17, 2021, 23:29:39 pm
Do you remember how many of those went in?  ;D
One of my mates reckons half were supposed to be crosses and the other half were supposed to be  passes back to our own keeper? Harsh, but I did laugh.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on January 17, 2021, 23:53:17 pm
Seems like Smith is indeed off to Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 17, 2021, 23:57:46 pm
Seems like Smith is indeed off to Bristol Rovers.

Permanent deal too allegedly, which is an absolute bonus, as it means we get an actual fee for him.

Wish him well but nowhere near good enough for L1 imo

Just need ntfclad to clarify before it becomes official  ;D

Also, if we are going to replace Smith with another target man, Jayden Stockley has been made available for loan from PNE...

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale)/


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 01:42:33 am
Permanent deal too allegedly, which is an absolute bonus, as it means we get an actual fee for him.

Wish him well but nowhere near good enough for L1 imo

Just need ntfclad to clarify before it becomes official  ;D

Also, if we are going to replace Smith with another target man, Jayden Stockley has been made available for loan from PNE...

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale)/

That would have been a really good signing and Iím my opinion and just what we need right now, Iím guessing Edmondson has come in as the Smith replacement though.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 18, 2021, 09:51:43 am
Permanent deal too allegedly, which is an absolute bonus, as it means we get an actual fee for him.

Wish him well but nowhere near good enough for L1 imo

Just need ntfclad to clarify before it becomes official  ;D

Also, if we are going to replace Smith with another target man, Jayden Stockley has been made available for loan from PNE...

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-make-transfer-decision-on-forwards-future-at-deepdale)/

Now I may be completely wrong here, but I donít think Rovers is the destination.

Iíve asked a few people and interestingly been told Stockley is due at Rovers today to sign for them, so would they need Smith too?

Led to believe nothing is that imminent for Smith as it stands

Also hearing whispers of another incoming at the PTS but will hear about that as and when


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 18, 2021, 10:29:41 am
Able to give us a clue where on the pitch the incoming may be?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 18, 2021, 10:43:41 am
Now I may be completely wrong here, but I donít think Rovers is the destination.

Iíve asked a few people and interestingly been told Stockley is due at Rovers today to sign for them, so would they need Smith too?

Led to believe nothing is that imminent for Smith as it stands

Also hearing whispers of another incoming at the PTS but will hear about that as and when
Makes sense, didn't Tisdale have him at Exeter?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 10:47:16 am
Now I may be completely wrong here, but I donít think Rovers is the destination.

Iíve asked a few people and interestingly been told Stockley is due at Rovers today to sign for them, so would they need Smith too?

Led to believe nothing is that imminent for Smith as it stands

Also hearing whispers of another incoming at the PTS but will hear about that as and when

Thatís a shame Stockley would have been a great signing for us in this window. Clearly on my own on this but massively underwhelmed on the two that have come in so far, hopefully though Iíll be proved wrong and KC will have pulled another rabbit or rabbits out of the hat and one or both can be the next Morton.




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 18, 2021, 11:30:22 am
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/northampton-towns-former-millwall-striker-4899442


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 18, 2021, 11:49:05 am
Able to give us a clue where on the pitch the incoming may be?

Hearing youíll find out today...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 11:59:20 am
Hearing youíll find out today...

Wing back? central midfielder? or yet another small tricky attacking player!?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 18, 2021, 12:11:45 pm
Wing back? central midfielder? or yet another small tricky attacking player!?


Hearing you’ll find out today...

 ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 18, 2021, 12:43:20 pm
Hope it's a RWB or a brilliant centre-midfielder, but we'll see.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 18, 2021, 13:10:54 pm
Hope it's a RWB or a brilliant centre-midfielder, but we'll see.
The lad from Luuuttton who was recalled front loan with the monkey hangers?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 13:14:18 pm
I see that Shrewsbury have signed David Davis from Birmingham, great signing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 18, 2021, 14:21:05 pm
The lad from Luuuttton who was recalled front loan with the monkey hangers?
Something like that could work, think Bolton were sad to see him return. Could just go for almost entire Luton based backline by that point.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gonzales on January 18, 2021, 14:36:15 pm
Amazed that anyone is interested in Smith. Well played if weíve convinced some other saps to take him off our hands, doesnít he still have 18 months left on his contract?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 18, 2021, 14:41:10 pm
Sunderland are also in for Stockley.

Bristol Rovers, Cheltenham, Accrington, Stevenage, Shrewsbury & Wimbledon all after Harry Smith, seems like he's well sought after  :o


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 18, 2021, 14:41:44 pm
The lad from Luuuttton who was recalled front loan with the monkey hangers?
Thought it Bolton not Hartlepool


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 18, 2021, 14:43:15 pm
Sunderland are also in for Stockley.

Bristol Rovers, Cheltenham, Accrington, Stevenage, Shrewsbury & Wimbledon all after Harry Smith, seems like he's well sought after  :o
Good judge of a player this forum  :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 18, 2021, 14:43:53 pm
Smith is one of the most frustrating players I have watched play for us.

When he does score - for the remainder of that match, he's a different player. He goes up 2 or 3 levels. An example of this was at Burton, when he scored early doors, then produced a superb performance thereafter. 

Have we had more of a 'confidence player' before? I cant think of one...

If I recall correctly, the Macclesfield fans said the same when we signed him. So its not just at our gaff he seemingly has this issue. Its purely in his head...obviously KC and our coaching staff haven't been able to convince him that he's actually a very decent player; the same can be said at his previous club.

At some point in his career, it might just click for him. But Id say that after 18 months, its now time for someone else to take that mission on. Its a shame and I wish him the very best assuming he does leave.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 18, 2021, 14:54:41 pm
If KC manages to get Smith off the books by paying a small fee to another club he has done well.

If KC manages to get Smith off the books with no money changing hands he has done extremely well.

If KC manages to get Smith off the books with NTFC receiving a fee the guy should be knighted.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 18, 2021, 14:55:32 pm
Hearing youíll find out today...

Still confident today?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 18, 2021, 15:21:30 pm
Smith is one of the most frustrating players I have watched play for us.

When he does score - for the remainder of that match, he's a different player. He goes up 2 or 3 levels. An example of this was at Burton, when he scored early doors, then produced a superb performance thereafter. 

Have we had more of a 'confidence player' before? I cant think of one...

If I recall correctly, the Macclesfield fans said the same when we signed him. So its not just at our gaff he seemingly has this issue. Its purely in his head...obviously KC and our coaching staff haven't been able to convince him that he's actually a very decent player; the same can be said at his previous club.

At some point in his career, it might just click for him. But Id say that after 18 months, its now time for someone else to take that mission on. Its a shame and I wish him the very best assuming he does leave.

He may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time when he was an ideal number two striker for a fourth division club ?
However when we were promoted 'too' early he had too much of his contract remaining for us to discard him, added to the fact that the number one striker left us to Gillingham which left him exposed and in the wrong division?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2021, 15:22:12 pm
Smith is one of the most frustrating players I have watched play for us.

When he does score - for the remainder of that match, he's a different player. He goes up 2 or 3 levels. An example of this was at Burton, when he scored early doors, then produced a superb performance thereafter. 

Have we had more of a 'confidence player' before? I cant think of one...

If I recall correctly, the Macclesfield fans said the same when we signed him. So its not just at our gaff he seemingly has this issue. Its purely in his head...obviously KC and our coaching staff haven't been able to convince him that he's actually a very decent player; the same can be said at his previous club.

At some point in his career, it might just click for him. But Id say that after 18 months, its now time for someone else to take that mission on. Its a shame and I wish him the very best assuming he does leave.
Someone who had links to us and Millwall said the same sort of thing


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 18, 2021, 15:28:16 pm
Smith is one of the most frustrating players I have watched play for us.

When he does score - for the remainder of that match, he's a different player. He goes up 2 or 3 levels. An example of this was at Burton, when he scored early doors, then produced a superb performance thereafter. 

Have we had more of a 'confidence player' before? I cant think of one...

If I recall correctly, the Macclesfield fans said the same when we signed him. So its not just at our gaff he seemingly has this issue. Its purely in his head...obviously KC and our coaching staff haven't been able to convince him that he's actually a very decent player; the same can be said at his previous club.

At some point in his career, it might just click for him. But Id say that after 18 months, its now time for someone else to take that mission on. Its a shame and I wish him the very best assuming he does leave.
Hypnosis is the key my friend!

Now Harry, look me in the eye, not around the eyes, directly in the eye.
Harry, you are a good player. Harry, you are a fantastic player. Harry, you are not a donkey.
Harry, now I am going to click my finger...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 15:44:32 pm
Would like to see the club offer McWilliams a new contract now instead of waiting for the summer and risk ending up with another Oliver fiasco.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 18, 2021, 15:52:01 pm
Would like to see the club offer McWilliams a new contract now instead of waiting for the summer and risk ending up with another Oliver fiasco.


+1


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 18, 2021, 16:25:58 pm
Hypnosis is the key my friend!

Now Harry, look me in the eye, not around the eyes, directly in the eye.
Harry, you are a good player. Harry, you are a fantastic player. Harry, you are not a donkey.
Harry, now I am going to click my finger...

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 18, 2021, 16:31:25 pm
Incoming!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 18, 2021, 17:04:57 pm
Brn Morris from Pompeo...cm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 17:07:03 pm
Looks like another KC punt, someone who had promise in the past but who hasnít fulfilled it. Hopefully will be as good as the last player we had from Pompey.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 18, 2021, 17:07:47 pm
Welcome Bryn...

Safe to say Pompey are pleased to see the back of him. Hopefully he will be more successful here!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 18, 2021, 17:22:56 pm
Wycombe fans loved him and Portsmouth fans hate him, so we'll see what version we get.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2021, 17:23:57 pm
Looks like another KC punt, someone who had promise in the past but who hasnít fulfilled it. Hopefully will be as good as the last player we had from Pompey.


Another defensive midfielder and also had been out for a year with an injury .
the question is - how does he feel about playing right wing back on a cold windy tuesday night in Blackpool


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 18, 2021, 17:31:16 pm
Another defensive midfielder and also had been out for a year with an injury .
the question is - how does he feel about playing right wing back on a cold windy tuesday night in Blackpool

Very funny  ::)

Is he available to play? He needed to be signed by 12noon.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 18, 2021, 17:40:00 pm
6 CMs on the books now. 5 of them signed by the current manager.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 17:45:25 pm
6 CMs on the books now. 5 of them signed by the current manager.

My guess is if anyone comes in for Missilou he will be allowed to leave and it wouldnít surprise me if KC has said to him it would be in his best interest to find a new club.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 18, 2021, 17:59:05 pm
Welcome Bryn...

Safe to say Pompey are pleased to see the back of him. Hopefully he will be more successful here!

I can't find any such comment(s)  :'( ?  In fact one Pompey Chimes fan described him as classy when described with Naylor. Interesting he was a stand out player for Shrewsbury* in their successful League 1? season. Apparently Shrewsbury where the other side in the chase.

* He also had a successful loan at Wycombe.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 18, 2021, 18:14:42 pm

I can't find any such comment(s)  :'( ?  In fact one Pompey Chimes fan described him as classy when described with Naylor. Interesting he was a stand out player for Shrewsbury* in their successful League 1? season. Apparently Shrewsbury where the other side in the chase.

* He also had a successful loan at Wycombe.

Look at the comments on the Pompey twitter following the announcement. 40+ comments and I've not seen a positive one yet!

Still fingers crossed he isn't as bad as they think he is.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 18:14:53 pm

I can't find any such comment(s)  :'( ?  In fact one Pompey Chimes fan described him as classy when described with Naylor.


Shame think Iíd prefer if they had, last time Pompey fans rubbished a player signing for us we got Holmes



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 18, 2021, 18:16:31 pm
My guess is if anyone comes in for Missilou he will be allowed to leave and it wouldnít surprise me if KC has said to him it would be in his best interest to find a new club.

It was only a couple of months ago KC was talking him up to be the next best thing....

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/boss-keith-curle-delighted-good-fit-christopher-missilou-signs-cobblers-2925459


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2021, 18:28:23 pm
My guess is if anyone comes in for Missilou he will be allowed to leave and it wouldnít surprise me if KC has said to him it would be in his best interest to find a new club.
i think itís more likely to be Watson told to go although the player does seem to be a challenge to missilou or MacWilliams - i hope we havenít had an offer for the latter which is possible .
Pompey do not tend to sign makeweight players to be fair and so he must have done something right before.
i am surprised we havenít got a right wing back yet unless Miller is destined for the poison chalice or he is reverting to Hoskins again .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 18:35:36 pm
i think itís more likely to be Watson told to go although the player does seem to be a challenge to missilou or MacWilliams

Why? Watson is in the side at the moment Missilou isnít, another central midfielder puts him even further down the pecking order. Both out of contract in the summer while Watson may go too my guess is Missilou is almost certain to leave.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 18, 2021, 18:40:32 pm
It was only a couple of months ago KC was talking him up to be the next best thing....

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/boss-keith-curle-delighted-good-fit-christopher-missilou-signs-cobblers-2925459


Standard cut and paste KC interview on a new signing, Iím sure he was saying the same stuff about Racic too.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 18, 2021, 18:41:47 pm
Look at the comments on the Pompey twitter following the announcement. 40+ comments and I've not seen a positive one yet!

Still fingers crossed he isn't as bad as they think he is.

Tend to avoid Twitter but thanks all the same,


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 18, 2021, 19:34:05 pm
Looks like another KC punt, someone who had promise in the past but who hasnít fulfilled it. Hopefully will be as good as the last player we had from Pompey.



Time will tell...... whilst Portsmouth in League 1 are signing Tottenham starlets we'll have the player who was elbowed out to make way for them......

8 years in the game, we are his 9th different club yet he's only made 53 league starts in his career.

Sooner or later he's got to find a club where he performs and gets a decent run of games....lets hope its with us. Welcome Byrn.


So we're back to full compliment of 22 players in the squad 21 and over.....unless another young loanee comes in (and there's room for one more in the matchday squad) I daresay we'll see some movement out of the exit door in the coming days.

Morris not eligible for tomorrow (if the paperwork went through after 12pm) so it might be more revealing who is not in the matchday squad than who actually is in.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 18, 2021, 19:34:18 pm
Wycombe fans loved him and Portsmouth fans hate him, so we'll see what version we get.
The proof in the pudding will be what Manwork thinks of him!  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 18, 2021, 19:58:36 pm
The proof in the pudding will be what Manwork thinks of him!  ;D
I hope he passes quicker than he speaks.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 18, 2021, 20:03:55 pm
Bristol Rovers in advanced talks to sign Harry Smith.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 18, 2021, 20:32:40 pm
Time will tell...... whilst Portsmouth in League 1 are signing Tottenham starlets we'll have the player who was elbowed out to make way for them......

8 years in the game, we are his 9th different club yet he's only made 53 league starts in his career.

Sooner or later he's got to find a club where he performs and gets a decent run of games....lets hope its with us. Welcome Byrn.


So we're back to full compliment of 22 players in the squad 21 and over.....unless another young loanee comes in (and there's room for one more in the matchday squad) I daresay we'll see some movement out of the exit door in the coming days.

Morris not eligible for tomorrow (if the paperwork went through after 12pm) so it might be more revealing who is not in the matchday squad than who actually is in.

One thing for sure our Keith will not reveal if Morris signed before noon today or not! Keep 'em guessing :o


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 18, 2021, 20:57:21 pm
Bristol Rovers in advanced talks to sign Harry Smith.

Havenít heard anything new but Stockley promised a decision by close of play today, and Sunderland are sniffing.

Could be that heís turned them down and theyíve moved on


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 18, 2021, 21:01:53 pm
One thing for sure our Keith will not reveal if Morris signed before noon today or not! Keep 'em guessing :o

Very true......


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 18, 2021, 21:09:38 pm
Why? Watson is in the side at the moment Missilou isnít, another central midfielder puts him even further down the pecking order. Both out of contract in the summer while Watson may go too my guess is Missilou is almost certain to leave.
Because itís unusual a player leaves having only just arrived in the summer .
Watson blows hot and cold all of the time and hasnít offered enough really .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 18, 2021, 21:20:37 pm
Curles summer recruiting was an unmitigated disaster.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WadeyCobbler on January 18, 2021, 22:02:13 pm
Pompey fans don't rate Morris because Jackett played him instead of a popular player in the play-off campaign which obviously didn't end well. A bit like us not rating Clive Platt after 'that' play-off final (although we didn't rate him before that)!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 18, 2021, 22:56:24 pm
Very funny  ::)

Is he available to play? He needed to be signed by 12noon.
According to this heís not available till Lincoln as signed after 12?

https://lastwordonsports.com/football/2021/01/18/bryn-morris-signs-for-northampton-town/amp/

24 Year old England youth captain who played in 2 league 1 play off campaigns in 3 seasons, went to Pompey and spent a year on the treatment table and played in only 5 games on his return? The CV is attractive enough, sounds like he needs an extended run on the pitch to bring the best out of him? Problem is that having been signed by KC and given the current atmosphere heís going to need to hit the ground running as we are definitely not a patient lot at the minute? Apparently heís had 32 minutes game time since October the 27th so it seems unlikely heíll do that so fingers crossed? Could be a gem if he gets that extended run though?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 19, 2021, 08:03:42 am
Letís hope the January recruitment is better than the summer recruitment where only Mills has come out with any credit if you donít count Sheehan who arrived subsequently .
I still canít see where he will play Miller unless itís as a striker .
We will never play 4 4 2 consistently because we have no full backs and so he wonít play wide left .
He could play behind the front 2 now that we have signed another holding player alongside MacWilliams i suppose .
The enormous cavity now is right wing back unless Adams goes and someone comes in . Otherwise i think Hoskins gets the job .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 19, 2021, 09:21:32 am
The enormous cavity now is right wing back unless Adams goes and someone comes in . Otherwise i think Hoskins gets the job .

I think it will be Hoskins with Adams and Marshall used as impact players on both sides.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 19, 2021, 10:37:17 am
I think it will be Hoskins with Adams and Marshall used as impact players on both sides.

Maybe Miller too?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 19, 2021, 10:54:02 am
Maybe Miller too?

Yeah, it just seems weird following the 352 comments at Rotherham   :-\


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 19, 2021, 11:57:36 am
I see in the article in the Chron these 3 signings were KCís first choices, I guess no excuses now for the rest of the season.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 19, 2021, 12:22:18 pm
I see in the article in the Chron these 3 signings were KCís first choices, I guess no excuses now for the rest of the season.


I think Keithís had the hard word from Thomas about future signings and the utter Horlicks he made during the summer with signing players from lower leagues who just werenít good enough hence all the players weíve signed ( on loan) are players he has know or tried to sign.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 19, 2021, 14:32:55 pm
Bristol Rovers in advanced talks to sign Harry Smith.

Believe this is wide of the mark, expecting them to sign Stockley from PNE shortly.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 19, 2021, 14:56:29 pm
Believe this is wide of the mark, expecting them to sign Stockley from PNE shortly.

Hell of a signing for them...obvs the Tisdale link!

Anyone else in to take Smith on a perm or just loan interest from Chelts?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 19, 2021, 15:01:20 pm
Believe this is wide of the mark, expecting them to sign Stockley from PNE shortly.

Were we ever in for Stockley? He seems the perfect fit for what we need right now and have missed since Oliver left, in my opinion a massive step up from the 2 attackers we actually signed. Iím guessing it was a case of 2 players in Miller and Edmondson that KC had been after a while becoming available and that was it they were who we were going to sign, maybe it was financial but for me a missed opportunity. Iím still hoping Stockley signs for Sunderland instead with Bristol Rovers with them being a relegation rival.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2021, 15:02:08 pm
Believe this is wide of the mark, expecting them to sign Stockley from PNE shortly.

I don't like to go against what you say, because you definitely are in the know. However, reports suggest he's turned Bristol Rovers down and is heading to either Sunderland or Hull City. We shall see  ;)




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 19, 2021, 15:02:55 pm
Hell of a signing for them...obvs the Tisdale link!

Anyone else in to take Smith on a perm or just loan interest from Chelts?

+1

The Tisdale link makes sense.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 19, 2021, 15:51:37 pm
I don't like to go against what you say, because you definitely are in the know. However, reports suggest he's turned Bristol Rovers down and is heading to either Sunderland or Hull City. We shall see  ;)


Smith?  8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on January 19, 2021, 16:46:10 pm
Smith?  8)
Oh, yes please. That'll mean they will always be playing with 10 men, if selected of course.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on January 19, 2021, 17:28:55 pm
I don't like to go against what you say, because you definitely are in the know. However, reports suggest he's turned Bristol Rovers down and is heading to either Sunderland or Hull City. We shall see  ;)


I saw an article somewhere saying they want his 7k a week salary paying... think most teams in L1 will strugggle with that given the wage cap, Bristol Rovers especially. Hopefully they end up with a bargain bucket alternative.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 19, 2021, 17:57:11 pm
+1

The Tisdale link makes sense.

The Stockdale link was always BR but never us! It appears that now according to TP Stockdale has turned down BR and heading for Hull etc.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 19, 2021, 18:35:28 pm
I don't like to go against what you say, because you definitely are in the know. However, reports suggest he's turned Bristol Rovers down and is heading to either Sunderland or Hull City. We shall see  ;)




As I understand it, Stockley has agreed but thereís a bit of wrangling over the wages and whoíll pay what. Someone mentioned £7k but I think itís even higher than that.

Anyway I think their plan B has gone because I think Smith is off north of the border for the rest of the season (loan)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 19, 2021, 18:39:29 pm
Think the big takeaway is that a permanent move to Rovers is the ideal situation for the club and Smith.

Rovers want Stockley, Smith second choice. Rovers pretty confident theyíve got Stockley.

As a result looks like a Scottish team has swooped in and will take Smith on loan for the rest of the season.

Hope thatís cleared it up and apologies for any confusion  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 19, 2021, 18:40:14 pm
Were we ever in for Stockley? He seems the perfect fit for what we need right now and have missed since Oliver left, in my opinion a massive step up from the 2 attackers we actually signed. Iím guessing it was a case of 2 players in Miller and Edmondson that KC had been after a while becoming available and that was it they were who we were going to sign, maybe it was financial but for me a missed opportunity. Iím still hoping Stockley signs for Sunderland instead with Bristol Rovers with them being a relegation rival.



Wages far too high for us


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 19, 2021, 18:51:00 pm
Think the big takeaway is that a permanent move to Rovers is the ideal situation for the club and Smith.

Rovers want Stockley, Smith second choice. Rovers pretty confident theyíve got Stockley.

As a result looks like a Scottish team has swooped in and will take Smith on loan for the rest of the season.

Hope thatís cleared it up and apologies for any confusion  ;D

No confusion mate, thanks.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gonzales on January 19, 2021, 21:30:22 pm
What has actually happened with Missilou and why is he now out of favour? Whenever I saw him earlier in the season he looked like a solid signing!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 19, 2021, 22:08:26 pm
What has actually happened with Missilou and why is he now out of favour? Whenever I saw him earlier in the season he looked like a solid signing!
He runs around a lot and granted gets a foot in and wins the ball but itís downhill from there he usually kicks it into touch. Not L1 standard IMO.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 20, 2021, 12:47:36 pm
He runs around a lot and granted gets a foot in and wins the ball but itís downhill from there he usually kicks it into touch. Not L1 standard IMO.
Am I the only one who also has doubts about Sean Mac in that respect?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on January 20, 2021, 14:00:18 pm
Am I the only one who also has doubts about Sean Mac in that respect?

Shaun McWilliams is comfortably our best player in my opinion. If he goes the rest of the season playing week in, week out, expect to see lots of interest in him from bigger League One sides.

I'm not sure I've seen a better ball-winning midfielder in the league this year watching on iFollow, his tenacity and ability to poke the ball away from opponents is top class. His ability to drive the ball forward breaking the lines is also quite impressive, and he leads by example with his aggression on the pitch. I know this sounds quite premature given that he hasn't really played a full uninterrupted season yet, but if I was KC I really would be sorting him out with a new multi-year contract and thinking about making him captain for the 21/22 season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3419 on January 20, 2021, 14:09:50 pm
Shaun McWilliams is comfortably our best player in my opinion. If he goes the rest of the season playing week in, week out, expect to see lots of interest in him from bigger League One sides.

I'm not sure I've seen a better ball-winning midfielder in the league this year watching on iFollow, his tenacity and ability to poke the ball away from opponents is top class. His ability to drive the ball forward breaking the lines is also quite impressive, and he leads by example with his aggression on the pitch. I know this sounds quite premature given that he hasn't really played a full uninterrupted season yet, but if I was KC I really would be sorting him out with a new multi-year contract and thinking about making him captain for the 21/22 season.
+1

Championship quality, hence Derby's previous interest.
Hopefully contract talks being concluded.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 20, 2021, 14:14:05 pm
Am I the only one who also has doubts about Sean Mac in that respect?

For me we have had 2 players this season who have looked league 1 class in Sheehan and McWilliams, Shaun looks miles ahead in terms of quality to Sowerby, Watson and Missilou. Completely agree with OCoole in that if this club ever wants to be considered a professional outfit it should be offering McWilliams a new contract now instead of waiting till the end of the season and being shocked that he end up elsewhere.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 20, 2021, 14:15:11 pm
So, Hull have withdrew their interest in Stockley, after having bids turned down & being unwilling to pay the wages he's currently on for a loan option...

Can't see how Bristol Rovers could gazump Hull financially...I appreciate the Tisdale link but pretty sure PNE ain't gonna be that sentimental during a pandemic!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 20, 2021, 14:26:32 pm
Am I the only one who also has doubts about Sean Mac in that respect?
I used to think similar to you in that respect BUT this season Shaun has come on and really looks the part in Center mid, as others have said miles better than Missalou.
We desperately need a right wing back, defender as a must once the utterly useless Smith goes.
Hats off to KC for this one, oh and if Iím being greedy a new L1 standard keeper.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 20, 2021, 14:39:47 pm
So, Hull have withdrew their interest in Stockley, after having bids turned down & being unwilling to pay the wages he's currently on for a loan option...

Can't see how Bristol Rovers could gazump Hull financially...I appreciate the Tisdale link but pretty sure PNE ain't gonna be that sentimental during a pandemic!

Obviously we have no idea how much money he is on, say a rough estimate at £10K a week, youíd be talking around £150K for the last three and a half months of the season. There could be an issue with FFP but I donít think if that sum is anywhere near correct it is that huge for a player that has the ability to be a game changer and keep you in the league.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on January 20, 2021, 15:01:18 pm
I used to think similar to you in that respect BUT this season Shaun has come on and really looks the part in Center mid, as others have said miles better than Missalou.
We desperately need a right wing back, defender as a must once the utterly useless Smith goes.
Hats off to KC for this one, oh and if Iím being greedy a new L1 standard keeper.
Last season I started to have my doubts about him. Injuries and inconsistent and at one point I thought he might get released.
Since his recovery from injury heís showing that he is a quality footballer and stands out in our midfield, a bit like he did when first broke into the team.
He does need to learn to judge his lunges a bit better but you donít want to lose the edge to his aggressive game. A couple of times when heís played in defence heís looked good as well. Long may it continue.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 20, 2021, 15:45:13 pm
There must be some outgoings coming up soon?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on January 20, 2021, 16:13:50 pm
Obviously we have no idea how much money he is on, say a rough estimate at £10K a week, youíd be talking around £150K for the last three and a half months of the season.


Professional footballers must be the only people who's contracts are still broken down into £s per week.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 20, 2021, 17:00:57 pm
+1

Championship quality, hence Derby's previous interest.
Hopefully contract talks being concluded.
Dont get me wrong, i like Sean, definitely 'one of our own', you can see that just from the way he plays. Very good defensively breaking up play obviously, and I can see what is being said about driving forwards this season. The best at what he does well by a large margin for us.
I'm just not sure how good he is going to be in terms of ball distribution when adding that to driving forwards? Keep thinking of Sammy H in that respect.
Mention of Derby and the Championship reminds me of Bradley Johnson.I really hope I'm proved wrong but if Sean does get a move to a higher level, I dont see him making as much of an impression as he has since he left us.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 20, 2021, 17:25:04 pm

I'm just not sure how good he is going to be in terms of ball distribution when adding that to driving forwards? Keep thinking of Sammy H in that respect.
Mention of Derby and the Championship reminds me of Bradley Johnson.I really hope I'm proved wrong but if Sean does get a move to a higher level, I dont see him making as much of an impression as he has since he left us.

In terms of distribution he is young enough to improve but he canít be expected to do everything, in some respect he is being let down by the other central midfielders who offer very little.
I also wouldnít worry about how well he does when he eventually leaves, in the right now if we are going to ever progress or even just stay in league one he is the sort of player that should be key.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 20, 2021, 18:31:31 pm
For me we have had 2 players this season who have looked league 1 class in Sheehan and McWilliams, Shaun looks miles ahead in terms of quality to Sowerby, Watson and Missilou. Completely agree with OCoole in that if this club ever wants to be considered a professional outfit it should be offering McWilliams a new contract now instead of waiting till the end of the season and being shocked that he end up elsewhere.


Agree with the plaudits for McW as he is a key member of the team. Only drawback is not his potential Red Card scenario but his potential  injury situation. Don't quite understand the concern on professionalism as exhibited by the Club or indeed Management. Pretty sure KC will consider all his options when considering a contract(s). Another thing I believe Sowerby and Watson are L1 quality players and have shown it against Gillingham and Sunderland.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 20, 2021, 21:06:12 pm
Agree with the plaudits for McW as he is a key member of the team. Only drawback is not his potential Red Card scenario but his potential  injury situation. Don't quite understand the concern on professionalism as exhibited by the Club or indeed Management. Pretty sure KC will consider all his options when considering a contract(s). Another thing I believe Sowerby and Watson are L1 quality players and have shown it against Gillingham and Sunderland.
I also think Sowerby and Watson can hold their own in league one if the rest of the team was right.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 21, 2021, 12:26:34 pm
According to twitter...

Smith on his way to Scotland for a medical before signing for Motherwell on loan until end of season...

Says we turned down approaches from L1 teams, which is strange if perm deal was being offered, as he's still got another year on his contract

Perhaps, ntfclad can clarify


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 21, 2021, 13:25:05 pm
Agree with the plaudits for McW as he is a key member of the team. Only drawback is not his potential Red Card scenario but his potential  injury situation. Don't quite understand the concern on professionalism as exhibited by the Club or indeed Management. Pretty sure KC will consider all his options when considering a contract(s). Another thing I believe Sowerby and Watson are L1 quality players and have shown it against Gillingham and Sunderland.

I agree. Those three are potentially L1 quality which is why I find it very strange that KC has prioritised a CM signing (for the final spot in the 22 man squad) rather than one of the other areas of the pitch where we lack quality.   


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 21, 2021, 13:28:27 pm
According to twitter...

Smith on his way to Scotland for a medical before signing for Motherwell on loan until end of season...

Says we turned down approaches from L1 teams, which is strange if perm deal was being offered, as he's still got another year on his contract

Perhaps, ntfclad can clarify
They have Cole up front, canít see Smith in any other role than bench warming, which heís actually not that bad at.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 21, 2021, 13:57:32 pm
According to twitter...

Smith on his way to Scotland for a medical before signing for Motherwell on loan until end of season...

Says we turned down approaches from L1 teams, which is strange if perm deal was being offered, as he's still got another year on his contract

Perhaps, ntfclad can clarify

No bids have been good enough. Mentioned a couple of days Rovers was a non starter at the moment, and he was off to Scotland on loan.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 21, 2021, 14:15:44 pm
No bids have been good enough. Mentioned a couple of days Rovers was a non starter at the moment, and he was off to Scotland on loan.


We still looking for other loan signings, you know?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 21, 2021, 15:12:08 pm
No bids have been good enough. Mentioned a couple of days Rovers was a non starter at the moment, and he was off to Scotland on loan.

Good info!

Madness that we are holding out for more money for him. Would have thought we would be happy just to get him off the books for good.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 21, 2021, 15:35:49 pm
Interestingly, I heard Charlton have gazumped Rovers for Stockley (offered more money in wages and a higher future fee) so he may be off there, Smith off to Motherwell too so they look to have missed the boat for him unless they launch a last minute hijack attempt


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 21, 2021, 16:30:39 pm
In terms of distribution he is young enough to improve but he canít be expected to do everything, in some respect he is being let down by the other central midfielders who offer very little.
I also wouldnít worry about how well he does when he eventually leaves, in the right now if we are going to ever progress or even just stay in league one he is the sort of player that should be key.
I'm not worrying about how well he does if he leaves us but I wouldn't want to see him fail. I was simply comparing him to Bradley Johnson because someone suggested he was championship quality. I dont see that atm.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on January 21, 2021, 18:50:58 pm
Cobbler out in ten mins.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 21, 2021, 18:57:38 pm
Cobbler out in ten mins.
Hurry up Harry címon


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 21, 2021, 18:59:51 pm
Hurry up Harry címon
Already done!  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 21, 2021, 19:00:44 pm
Confirmed....loan move to Motherwell for the rest of the season.

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/harry_smith/


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on January 21, 2021, 19:03:39 pm
Already done!  ;)
It can happen... apologies


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 21, 2021, 20:07:32 pm
Great news. A shame itís only on loan.

Fingers crossed thereís no send back clause in the contract.

Could be up a good match up at the weekend v Ash Taylor. Although he was subbed off after 30 minutes in the last game so may not get the nod!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 21, 2021, 20:40:11 pm
Letís hope he does really well.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 21, 2021, 23:10:06 pm
Letís hope he does really well.
Yep and then they make us an offer we canít refuse, basically anything!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 21, 2021, 23:23:22 pm
This situation on Smith reminds me a little on what happened to JJOT - would be delighted if all goes well for Smith and benefits us of course!




Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 21, 2021, 23:57:27 pm
Looks like Ricky won't be joining Southend...

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/ (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 22, 2021, 09:19:42 am
Looks like Ricky won't be joining Southend...

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/ (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/)

Any chance we can offload Martin for the lad from Luton, then give the final spot to Ricky!?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 22, 2021, 10:01:10 am
Adams set to sign for Oldham...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 22, 2021, 10:32:51 am
Adams set to sign for Oldham...

Would make sense if we could bring in a wing back on loan or six month contract to replace him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 22, 2021, 10:35:42 am
Adams set to sign for Oldham...

If thatís the case itís a sad end to his Cobblers career - a combination of him losing a yard of pace and being used completely out of position has meant heís been a shadow of his former self. I hope he does well at Oldham and wouldnít be at all surprised if his assist stats go up again if he is played at right wing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on January 22, 2021, 11:20:42 am
Adams leaving is no surprise,  not really been up to it this season, seems to prefer league 2 as his level.
Ricky Holmes not found a club yet ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 22, 2021, 11:40:53 am
Adams set to sign for Oldham...
who says ?
That picture on FB i donít think is Adams but i could be wrong .
I would rather off load Adams and get a good RWB in .
As for Holmes .... hmmm i think we need other positions filling despite the fact he can do a job - as can Adams off the bench .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on January 22, 2021, 11:55:04 am
Looks like Adams is pretty much a done deal - shame as he's been one of our best players in recent years, but no suprise really as hasnt been the same this season.
Hopefully we can bring in a good wing back to replace him.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 22, 2021, 12:05:53 pm
I texted my daughter to say that Nicky was rumoured to be going to Oldham and she replied that she had seen several 'photos of him in Oldham. If he can agree terms then it looks like we have another available space.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 22, 2021, 12:32:52 pm
Looks like Ricky won't be joining Southend...

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/ (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19029818.southend-united-not-made-moves-wingers-jordan-green-ricky-holmes/)

I find that amazing. I'm racking my brain to remember the numerous moaning fcukers who said he was the second coming and that he could single handedly turn our fortunes around if utilised.

So the mighty Southend, who would take Douglas Bader on loan if he could get them out of the shyte, have turned down the Messi of the lower leagues.

So they've joined the ranks of clubs that have said, "not for us thanks". Clearly they have no insight into the thoughts of the binmen, chippy's, architects et al that frequent social media, who could have put them right straight away when it comes to signings, expenditure, food, the pitch, training regimes etc etc.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 22, 2021, 12:34:46 pm
I would have kept him, still quality, play him in his right position etc.
We may have a right wing back lined up?
Desperately need to get rid of the likes of Martin and Missalou.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 22, 2021, 12:38:44 pm
I find that amazing. I'm racking my brain to remember the numerous moaning fcukers who said he was the second coming and that he could single handedly turn our fortunes around if utilised.

So the mighty Southend, who would take Douglas Bader on loan if he could get them out of the shyte, have turned down the Messi of the lower leagues.

So they've joined the ranks of clubs that have said, "not for us thanks". Clearly they have no insight into the thoughts of the binmen, chippy's, architects et al that frequent social media, who could have put them right straight away when it comes to signings, expenditure, food, the pitch, training regimes etc etc.  ;D ;D
Youíd have to be bonkers to take Holmes on a contract, given his injury record, different with us as we know his medical history better than anyone, on his day Holmes is a game changer, contract till the end of the season?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 22, 2021, 12:47:19 pm
If Ricky gets a contract to the end of the season I think it will be at the end of the transfer window if we still have a squad place available and we have exhausted all of our other options.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 22, 2021, 12:47:41 pm
Youíd have to be bonkers to take Holmes on a contract, given his injury record, different with us as we know his medical history better than anyone, on his day Holmes is a game changer, contract till the end of the season?

And clog up a slot in our squad?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on January 22, 2021, 12:56:16 pm
Youíd have to be bonkers to take Holmes on a contract, given his injury record, different with us as we know his medical history better than anyone, on his day Holmes is a game changer, contract till the end of the season?

On his day c2016. He did very little in his latest spell to make me think he is worth a place in the squad. I had the same op as him as its not even back issues thats the main problem, it has a massive knock on effect elsewhere - won't take much to knock him out again and when he's only at 70% as it is... big risk.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 22, 2021, 12:56:39 pm
And clog up a slot in our squad?
All depends on what else is available, I agree my preference would be a L1 or above quality right wing back.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 22, 2021, 12:58:32 pm
http://d3d4football.com/oldham-set-to-sign-league-two-promotion-maestro/


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 22, 2021, 13:04:24 pm
Holmes is worth a punt as a squad player in my opinion. The times has has played this season his has looked a cut above the rest (although that's not to difficult!).

Would much prefer having Holmes on the bench to call upon in the last 20 rather hand Adams, Smith, Martin, Roberts etc.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 22, 2021, 13:09:02 pm
Holmes is worth a punt as a squad player in my opinion. The times has has played this season his has looked a cut above the rest (although that's not to difficult!).

Would much prefer having Holmes on the bench to call upon in the last 20 rather hand Adams, Smith, Martin, Roberts etc.

I agree, but not at the expense of another player who will be able contribute fully.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 22, 2021, 15:34:54 pm
I find that amazing. I'm racking my brain to remember the numerous moaning fcukers who said he was the second coming and that he could single handedly turn our fortunes around if utilised.

So the mighty Southend, who would take Douglas Bader on loan if he could get them out of the shyte, have turned down the Messi of the lower leagues.

So they've joined the ranks of clubs that have said, "not for us thanks". Clearly they have no insight into the thoughts of the binmen, chippy's, architects et al that frequent social media, who could have put them right straight away when it comes to signings, expenditure, food, the pitch, training regimes etc etc.  ;D ;D
Depends on how much is offered and how much is wanted?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 22, 2021, 15:44:40 pm
Itís official Nicky Adams has left the club on an 18 month deal with Oldham.

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/nicky_adams2021/

Thanks for the memories Nicky, you will always get a warm welcome at NTFC.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on January 22, 2021, 15:50:22 pm
Looks like a good move for Nicky and he deserves that, one of the good guys.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 22, 2021, 15:56:53 pm
Itís official Nicky Adams has left the club on an 18 month deal with Oldham.

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/nicky_adams2021/

Thanks for the memories Nicky, you will always get a warm welcome at NTFC.

Yes, thanks for the memories and all the best at Oldham.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 22, 2021, 16:01:54 pm
Looks like a good move for Nicky and he deserves that, one of the good guys.

+1


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 22, 2021, 16:13:31 pm
the time is right for Adams to go .
We need more pace and he has served his time here very well .
He is a good Div 2 player and oldham have got a great catch there .
Now letís get the Luton RWB


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 22, 2021, 17:47:05 pm
I think more importantly than his performances on the pitch in all his time here. His biggest contribution overall has been his character, popularity within his squad and influence in creating a positive team atmosphere. You will most certainly be missed greatly!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 22, 2021, 17:48:04 pm
Friday night and 5 beers in....maybe just a little sentimental


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 22, 2021, 19:15:29 pm
Another good song lost!
Where was this bouncer incident anyway?  :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 22, 2021, 19:26:34 pm
Sadly no bouncer in these lockdown times....how I miss a few good digs to my head as I fall out of the door of said pub!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2021, 19:35:18 pm
One of the best characters to ever represent the football club. Been an absolute pleasure watching Nicky for us. Wish him all the best at Oldham.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on January 22, 2021, 19:49:24 pm
Was he club captain?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 22, 2021, 19:52:02 pm
All the best Nicky.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest1223 on January 22, 2021, 22:23:46 pm
Thank you Nicky for the great times and all those assists


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: andycobbler on January 22, 2021, 22:39:37 pm
FFS, no creative players now. All the best Nicky.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 23, 2021, 01:00:07 am
Goodby Nicky. All the best. Thanks for the memories.
You were one of a rare breed of Cobbler that had the ability to make your heart beat stronger.
The anticipation of what you might do, could do and did do.
Graham Felton, Bobby Barnes, Derek Asamoah, Josh Low, Marco G, Jamie Forrester ... a rare breed.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 23, 2021, 05:11:29 am
Ive got a very bad feeling about Adams leaving.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 23, 2021, 09:47:28 am
Holmes is worth a punt as a squad player in my opinion. The times has has played this season his has looked a cut above the rest (although that's not to difficult!).

Would much prefer having Holmes on the bench to call upon in the last 20 rather hand Adams, Smith, Martin, Roberts etc.

Talk about sentiment gone berserk ::) His best time with us was the first. Then he ditched us for another at first opportunity! He is 33 with best years behind him! In the frequent appearances made, some of them for contractual purposes he has not shown much evidence of past glories if at all. Can you please indicate those games where he excelled? Frightened beyond measure that I have missed some obvious quality performance.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 23, 2021, 10:32:01 am
Friday night and 5 beers in....maybe just a little sentimental

You mind them pub/club bouncers - when open of course!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 23, 2021, 11:24:50 am
 ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 23, 2021, 12:39:30 pm
This is what happens when a famous player leaves a big club.
Reported on a local news programme in Los Angeles where there is a large expat population "Nicky Adams has left Northampton and joined Oldham". Nicky has an aunty living out there.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 23, 2021, 14:10:47 pm
Talk about sentiment gone berserk ::) His best time with us was the first. Then he ditched us for another at first opportunity! He is 33 with best years behind him! In the frequent appearances made, some of them for contractual purposes he has not shown much evidence of past glories if at all. Can you please indicate those games where he excelled? Frightened beyond measure that I have missed some obvious quality performance.

I think youíve made up half a post in your head there?

Statement was he merits a place in the squad as when he has played he has looked a cut above the rest.

Nothing about excelling or being anywhere near his previous levels. 

In my opinion with the current squad, he is worth a punt.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3419 on January 23, 2021, 16:03:35 pm
Encouraging.

Morris good.
Miller good until injured.

Appleton says Lincoln are by far the better team and have dominate for all 45 minutes!!!!!!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 24, 2021, 12:41:16 pm
Perhaps we can read something into Marshall, Missilou and Martin being omitted from the 18 yesterday, unless injured maybe surplus to requirments. As in Adams case probably not likely to feature much in the rest of the season. Injuries to Miller and Sowerby could give the first 2 a reprieve.
We already have Marshall, Mills, Mc.Williams, Morris and Miller so we need to get rid of some players whose name starts with the letter M.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 24, 2021, 14:56:20 pm
I wonder if we enquired about taking Goode back on loan, he doesnít seem to be getting a look in at Brentford.

*Obviously before Jones and Sheehan signed up at the start of the month.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 24, 2021, 15:02:07 pm
I wonder if we enquired about taking Goode back on loan, he doesnít seem to be getting a look in at Brentford.

*Obviously before Jones and Sheehan signed up at the start of the month.

Doubt it, would imagine wages are way too high


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 24, 2021, 18:32:42 pm
Interesting to see that Nicky played Left back for Oldham yesterday. Not left wing back, left back!  Sign a winger who gets you loads of assists and play him at left back, hmmm. Still, these football managers know more than us thick fans do eh!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 24, 2021, 18:43:32 pm
Interesting to see that Nicky played Left back for Oldham yesterday. Not left wing back, left back!  Sign a winger who gets you loads of assists and play him at left back, hmmm. Still, these football managers know more than us thick fans do eh!!

The cross he provided for their winner came from the right wing when he overlapped?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 24, 2021, 18:55:26 pm

I think youíve made up half a post in your head there?


Statement was he merits a place in the squad as when he has played he has looked a cut above the rest.

Nothing about excelling or being anywhere near his previous levels. 

In my opinion with the current squad, he is worth a punt.

I appreciate your rhetoric and also your views on Goode and Ricky. Not sure how much sentimentality plays with KC and more to the point with KT. Most of us would like to see Goode here but its hardly realistic based on perhaps a somewhat whimsical view point. To me the most realistic targets are a right wing back, a decent cutting edge up front and now a defender to replace the injury prone Sheehan? At the moment would not jeopardize a free squad place in lieu of current shortages? Would you seriously?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 25, 2021, 10:26:06 am
The cross he provided for their winner came from the right wing when he overlapped?

I assumed he was at left back given the way the team was laid out on the report I read. So your saying he was at right back? Fair enough!

I guess if he set up the winner it was justified. Sill would play him as a winger in a 4-4-2 or in the position Wilder played him in. Maybe given his age and general fitness now, full back is best suited to him? Players tend to go backwards as they get older!

Either way, he cant do wing back. He's knackered after an hour in that position!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 25, 2021, 12:06:16 pm
I appreciate your rhetoric and also your views on Goode and Ricky. Not sure how much sentimentality plays with KC and more to the point with KT. Most of us would like to see Goode here but its hardly realistic based on perhaps a somewhat whimsical view point. To me the most realistic targets are a right wing back, a decent cutting edge up front and now a defender to replace the injury prone Sheehan? At the moment would not jeopardize a free squad place in lieu of current shortages? Would you seriously?

Again, you seem to have taken half a post and rearranged it to suit your debate.

Please reread the Goode post, which clearly states, I wonder if we enquired before we signed up two alternatives.

Reverting back to the Ricky debate, you've asked the same question again. My response / opinion remains the same, he merits a place in the squad. Feel free to ask again just incase my opinion changes in the next couple of hours.

We were 1-0 down at the weekend with 15 minutes to play, I'd be interested to hear yours and others thoughts about the order of attacking options we had from the bench. For me personally it would have looked something like below:

Rose
Chucks
BAS
Korboa

In my opinion Ricky would pose a greater threat to the opposition than 3 out of the 4 options we had. Hence I think he is worth having in the squad.

 ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 25, 2021, 12:22:02 pm
From what Ricky has produced for us so far since his return I fully understand why KC has not offered him a contract extension. As I said in a previous post he may still get an offer from us at the end of the transfer window if we still have a squad place open. It is also telling that no other club has come in for him including Southend where he said he wanted to go and their manager has stated they are currently not interested.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on January 25, 2021, 12:41:36 pm
From what Ricky has produced for us so far since his return I fully understand why KC has not offered him a contract extension. As I said in a previous post he may still get an offer from us at the end of the transfer window if we still have a squad place open. It is also telling that no other club has come in for him including Southend where he said he wanted to go and their manager has stated they are currently not interested.
And what exactly have other members of the squad 'produced for us so far'? In my opinion, Ricky would have improved over the next batch of games. He is a quality player, always a goal in him, and 33 is not ancient.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 25, 2021, 12:58:07 pm
For me personally it would have looked something like below:

Rose
Chucks
BAS
Korboa

In my opinion Ricky would pose a greater threat to the opposition than 3 out of the 4 options we had. Hence I think he is worth having in the squad.

If Miller has done him hamstring I would not be surprised to see Holmes back until the end of the season although I think Adams leaving says a lot about the chances of that happening.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 25, 2021, 13:04:02 pm
You cannot keep a player because other team members have also not produced an acceptable level of performance. Ricky was out of contract and KC has started shipping out other players who have not made the step up in order that he can improve the squad. Judging by the performances of Morris and Miller (unfortunately injured) they do appear to be an improvement. We have 2 squad places free and possibly more players will be let go so lets see who else he brings in.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 25, 2021, 13:44:30 pm
Heard anything ntfclad?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 25, 2021, 13:52:28 pm
Wonder if we considered him, a former NTFC Academy member ?

  himhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55794165


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 25, 2021, 14:07:10 pm
Curle saying transfer business isnt done yet today


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on January 25, 2021, 14:15:23 pm
The Peter Kioso link seems to have gone quiet and strangely it is being reported that he might go back to Bolton after Luton recalled him from them last week. Why recall him only to let him go back to the same club a week or two later - I might have understood it if they wanted him to be involved in their FA Cup game yesterday but he didnít make the squad?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 25, 2021, 14:30:04 pm
The Peter Kioso link seems to have gone quiet and strangely it is being reported that he might go back to Bolton after Luton recalled him from them last week. Why recall him only to let him go back to the same club a week or two later - I might have understood it if they wanted him to be involved in their FA Cup game yesterday but he didnít make the squad?

Apparently Peter Tutundo* from BR is prime target. Out of favour but highly rated at BR by some!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 25, 2021, 14:55:37 pm
I know this is the worst kind of speculation, but I played as Bristol Rovers in Football Manager last year and Tutonda was fine, though generally always second choice to Mark Little. Supposedly quick and more of a wing-back than a full back.

I also enjoyed this quote from Curle on our signings "We're looking to sign players who can fit into the ethos and the style of how we want to try and play and that's about playing attacking football, being on the front foot and having controlled possession." If that's the case, I'm not sure the team has been made aware of the ethos!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on January 25, 2021, 15:21:34 pm
I know this is the worst kind of speculation, but I played as Bristol Rovers in Football Manager last year and Tutonda was fine, though generally always second choice to Mark Little. Supposedly quick and more of a wing-back than a full back.

I also enjoyed this quote from Curle on our signings "We're looking to sign players who can fit into the ethos and the style of how we want to try and play and that's about playing attacking football, being on the front foot and having controlled possession." If that's the case, I'm not sure the team has been made aware of the ethos!

I remember when Yaser Kasim was rated our best player on Football Manager and Fifa


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 25, 2021, 15:22:26 pm
The Peter Kioso link seems to have gone quiet and strangely it is being reported that he might go back to Bolton after Luton recalled him from them last week. Why recall him only to let him go back to the same club a week or two later - I might have understood it if they wanted him to be involved in their FA Cup game yesterday but he didnít make the squad?

They recalled him to cover for some injuries they had at the time. Now those injuries are resolved they're probably happy to send him back again.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 25, 2021, 15:35:18 pm
I remember when Yaser Kasim was rated our best player on Football Manager and Fifa
OMG.. whatever happened to that dud?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 25, 2021, 16:29:59 pm
Time for the other end of the pitch to get some January transfer window love


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: woody84 on January 25, 2021, 16:30:42 pm
New signing at 5


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on January 25, 2021, 16:30:47 pm
Hope it's Tony Dobson.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 25, 2021, 16:43:17 pm
It's another loan signing, however it is, so could be Kioso.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 25, 2021, 16:48:08 pm
It's another loan signing, however it is, so could be Kioso.

Who knows


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 25, 2021, 17:02:46 pm
It's another loan signing, however it is, so could be Kioso.

It is


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 25, 2021, 17:04:36 pm
PETER KIOSO SIGNS FOR NORTHAMPTON TOWN...

Very decent signing but not signed in time to play to tomorrow...

All 5 loan spaces now taken up


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 25, 2021, 17:08:00 pm
It will be interesting if we switch back to 5-3-2 now, a lot of striking options.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 25, 2021, 17:09:37 pm
I hope not. Let's stick to the formation that gave us the best performance in months instead.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 25, 2021, 17:18:40 pm
I hope not. Let's stick to the formation that gave us the best performance in months instead.

Just going on what KC said about formation and then the signing of a player who from everything Iíve read is better suited to wing back than full back, with the same probably going for Mills.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 25, 2021, 17:20:02 pm
PETER KIOSO SIGNS FOR NORTHAMPTON TOWN...

Very decent signing but not signed in time to play to tomorrow...

All 5 loan spaces now taken up

Do we know for sure he can't play tomorrow? The club said players need to be signed before 12noon to play, they didn't say he can or can't play.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 25, 2021, 17:24:16 pm
Do we know for sure he can't play tomorrow? The club said players need to be signed before 12noon to play, they didn't say he can or can't play.

It was announced at 5pm but they could have done the paperwork at 11.55am.....I guess we'll find out tomorrow.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 25, 2021, 17:31:42 pm
A great window for us , no doubt about that .
This answers the question on wing backs now , although Miller is better suited to 4 3 3 or 4 4 2 !
3 ex or current Luton lads in our back 5 .
Happy with the deals done for sure


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on January 25, 2021, 17:42:42 pm
A great window for us , no doubt about that .
This answers the question on wing backs now , although Miller is better suited to 4 3 3 or 4 4 2 !
3 ex or current Luton lads in our back 5 .
Happy with the deals done for sure


No excuses now then? Although they are all loan players I don't think the "KC hasn't been backed" argument is going to cut it this window!

An earlier post too stating about the "five loan spots".....we can have as many people on loan as we like, we just can't name more than five in any given match day squad.....with our injury record we should have seven or eight on loan just to be sure that there would be five on matchday!
We could for example get another one in on loan then drop Mitchell completely, start Arnold and have Berry sub, and name five outfield loan players......


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 25, 2021, 17:53:26 pm
PETER KIOSO SIGNS FOR NORTHAMPTON TOWN...

Very decent signing but not signed in time to play to tomorrow...

All 5 loan spaces now taken up

Maybe theyíre just keeping their cards close to their chest...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 25, 2021, 19:46:05 pm
KC now saying that it may be possible to turn one of our loan signings into a permanent transfer which then gives us the option of another loan signing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 25, 2021, 19:53:22 pm
KC now saying that it may be possible to turn one of our loan signings into a permanent transfer which then gives us the option of another loan signing.

Mitchell me thinks.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 25, 2021, 19:56:53 pm
PETER KIOSO SIGNS FOR NORTHAMPTON TOWN...

Very decent signing but not signed in time to play to tomorrow...

All 5 loan spaces now taken up

Sounds a great signing.

Iíd be surprised if he wasnít signed in time to play tomorrow, it looks like mind games to me. Even the recent Instagram post states Ďplease note the deadline for signing in time to play tomorrow was noon todayí. No confirmation of when it went through!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on January 25, 2021, 20:07:59 pm
Mitchell me thinks.

Almost certainly either Mitchell or Morris.

More likely Mitchell however as he's on loan from Derby County, who currently are unable to pay their players due to a cash flow problem with an ownership transfer. I'd imagine Mitchell is no higher than 4th choice keeper there and surely would be allowed to leave for free?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 25, 2021, 20:25:02 pm
Almost certainly either Mitchell or Morris.

More likely Mitchell however as he's on loan from Derby County, who currently are unable to pay their players due to a cash flow problem with an ownership transfer. I'd imagine Mitchell is no higher than 4th choice keeper there and surely would be allowed to leave for free?

Thatís my thoughts. I assume Derby may still be paying a small part of his wages and will want him off the books.

Morris also looked good the other day though.. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 25, 2021, 20:48:29 pm
Agree it would be Mitchell or Morris as I can't see any of the other 3 being made available. It looks like Portsmouth will probably let Morris go at the end of the season when he will be out of contract so his loan could be made a permanent signing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 25, 2021, 20:49:32 pm
Thatís my thoughts. I assume Derby may still be paying a small part of his wages and will want him off the books.

Morris also looked good the other day though.. 
It was good to see as well, particularly as some Portsmouth fans were calling him their worst ever player on twitter. Long may it continue.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 25, 2021, 21:10:13 pm
It was good to see as well, particularly as some Portsmouth fans were calling him their worst ever player on twitter. Long may it continue.
Pompey fans really are clueless, first Holmes and now Morris ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 25, 2021, 21:13:30 pm
It was good to see as well, particularly as some Portsmouth fans were calling him their worst ever player on twitter. Long may it continue.

Itís either him or Ricky Holmes, each was equally ridiculed by Pompey fans before joining us!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 25, 2021, 22:55:25 pm
Pompey fans really are clueless, first Holmes and now Morris ?
Was going to say they all beat the same drum...but it's a bell!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 26, 2021, 12:57:21 pm
Was going to say they all beat the same drum...but it's a bell!
End 😂😂😂


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2021, 19:02:03 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-still-looking-another-piece-complete-his-cobblers-puzzle-3114777


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 27, 2021, 20:00:46 pm
I was rather hoping that he was looking for more than 1 piece of the puzzle as we have 2 spaces to fill. Also with Martin and Marshall not making the 18 and seeming unlikely to play a major part in the remainder of the season I think he would offload them if he could to free up more spaces.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 27, 2021, 20:25:30 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-still-looking-another-piece-complete-his-cobblers-puzzle-3114777
Jesus wept, Curle doesnít half talk some shyte, Jigsaws upward curves, the guys full of it.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 27, 2021, 20:43:56 pm
Jesus wept, Curle doesn’t half talk some shyte, Jigsaws upward curves, the guys full of it.

 ;D Thought that you'd like it...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on January 27, 2021, 21:13:33 pm
Jesus wept, Curle doesnít half talk some shyte, Jigsaws upward curves, the guys full of it.

He's not alone, the Fleetwood manager was talking about "putting down platforms" and "building blocks"


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2021, 06:31:55 am
Jesus wept, Curle doesnít half talk some shyte, Jigsaws upward curves, the guys full of it.
itís what i dislike about Curle more than anything .
He talks utter tripe and dresses it up to be intellectual and part of a Grand Plan. He spouts pseudo rubbish that no one buys into . The man is a fraud and wings it .
Can you imagine if Frank Lampard had come out with this after a losing streak and spending the money at Chelsea . He would have been a laughing stock .
Itís football , itís not some sort of prophetic cultural pilgrimage to the Promised Land to which we all need to join the crusade . Itís football mate ! Football .



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on January 28, 2021, 07:19:41 am
The difference between Lampard and Curle is the sheer diversity of their respective transfer budgets. If we stay up and we have a realistic chance at the moment, Curle will have performed a minor miracle. His interviews arent of a high standard but then again he is not a professional speaker.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 28, 2021, 09:05:43 am
It feels like pretty much any management speak that I've ever heard over the last 15 years. Let's face it, he won't be judged on his post-match interviews, if we're winning games or accomplishing long term goals, nobody really cares.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 28, 2021, 09:47:27 am
If we stay up and we have a realistic chance at the moment, Curle will have performed a minor miracle.

I donít buy that, in all probability the likes of Accrington, Rochdale, Crewe and Wimbledon all have smaller budgets than us. Wigan are in a complete financial mess. Then you have a whole bunch of teams including Gillingham, Burton, Bristol Rovers etc. who have budgets around ours, maybe higher, maybe lower. So for us to finish 5th bottom say we wouldnít be over achieving, more likely slightly underachieving in terms of budget.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on January 28, 2021, 09:53:09 am
I donít buy that, in all probability the likes of Accrington, Rochdale, Crewe and Wimbledon all have smaller budgets than us. Wigan are in a complete financial mess. Then you have a whole bunch of teams including Gillingham, Burton, Bristol Rovers etc. who have budgets around ours, maybe higher, maybe lower. So for us to finish 5th bottom say we wouldnít be over achieving, more likely slightly underachieving in terms of budget.

Im not sure why our budget is so 'poor' as many claim , we have the same covid constraints to deal with as every other club, yet we made a few quid from TV games and the sale of Goode last season whilst also getting shot of other alleged high waged players.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 28, 2021, 10:36:26 am
itís what i dislike about Curle more than anything .
He talks utter tripe and dresses it up to be intellectual and part of a Grand Plan. He spouts pseudo rubbish that no one buys into . The man is a fraud and wings it .

But we knew that even before he came here, remember the sh*te he came out with after we spanked Carlisle 4-1 at their place under Wilder. He does like to come out with stuff that sounds like he's a tactical genius, when some of his tactics would get him sacked in Sunday Leagues.
     He comes from a long line of stubborn managers who will never admit "they got it wrong" with anything, the only 2 I can remember in the past were Sammo  and Wilder who would say anything like the truth if we put in a poor performance


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2021, 10:49:25 am
But we knew that even before he came here, remember the sh*te he came out with after we spanked Carlisle 4-1 at their place under Wilder. He does like to come out with stuff that sounds like he's a tactical genius, when some of his tactics would get him sacked in Sunday Leagues.
     He comes from a long line of stubborn managers who will never admit "they got it wrong" with anything, the only 2 I can remember in the past were Sammo  and Wilder who would say anything like the truth if we put in a poor performance
he hides behind management speak when he has no answers because he has winged it . He is old school and full of hot air .
If he is that forward thinking why are his training methods and tactics from 1994 ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 28, 2021, 11:23:10 am
he hides behind management speak when he has no answers because he has winged it . He is old school and full of hot air .
If he is that forward thinking why are his training methods and tactics from 1994 ?

You must have friends in high places not to draw some attention for such rabid anti NTFC Management comments ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 28, 2021, 11:38:29 am
The difference between Lampard and Curle is the sheer diversity of their respective transfer budgets. If we stay up and we have a realistic chance at the moment, Curle will have performed a minor miracle. His interviews arent of a high standard but then again he is not a professional speaker.

At last a touch of realism. It appears we have some highly qualified speakers or experts on Football tactics/training etc etc


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on January 28, 2021, 11:43:12 am
Maybe we could have a seperate thread for Curle bashing...?

Wondering if ntfclad has heard anything more along on the grapevine

If we're going to get another loan in then would expect Mitchell to be made permanent

All of the names previously linked have ended up signing so wonder who Curles still targeting?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 28, 2021, 11:56:09 am
Maybe we could have a seperate thread for Curle bashing...?

Wondering if ntfclad has heard anything more along on the grapevine

If we're going to get another loan in then would expect Mitchell to be made permanent

All of the names previously linked have ended up signing so wonder who Curles still targeting?

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Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 28, 2021, 11:58:40 am
Maybe we could have a seperate thread for Curle bashing...?

Ohh please.

If the mods are interested I could replace a few posters with some basic coding to automate their behaviors.

for example

If 'undisclosed fee' is mentioned pick one of the following at random and post :
  • Clueless Curle
  • KT has no ambition
  • Look at clubs like peteborough


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 28, 2021, 12:08:42 pm
The difference between KC and Lampard is that KC has a promotion on his management cv, Lampard has'nt.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 28, 2021, 12:16:20 pm
But we knew that even before he came here, remember the sh*te he came out with after we spanked Carlisle 4-1 at their place under Wilder. He does like to come out with stuff that sounds like he's a tactical genius, when some of his tactics would get him sacked in Sunday Leagues.
     He comes from a long line of stubborn managers who will never admit "they got it wrong" with anything, the only 2 I can remember in the past were Sammo  and Wilder who would say anything like the truth if we put in a poor performance

To be honest, if you listen to the pre/post match interviews of the majority of club managers, they all spout exactly the same, especially when it's not going well. 
Listen to Chris Wilder now, he says almost the same thing at the end of each game, especially when they have lost again. (apart from last night obviously)
There is almost no difference, it fills the media space!!  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on January 28, 2021, 13:37:50 pm
The difference between KC and Lampard is that KC has a promotion on his management cv, Lampard has'nt.
Another difference, Curle has been a manager for 18 years, Lampard 18 months !  :)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 28, 2021, 13:43:33 pm
Ohh please.

If the mods are interested I could replace a few posters with some basic coding to automate their behaviors.

for example

If 'undisclosed fee' is mentioned pick one of the following at random and post :
  • Clueless Curle
  • KT has no ambition
  • Look at clubs like peteborough
This I like, you may have the beginnings of a robust business plan there, imagine the possibilities.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 28, 2021, 14:20:12 pm
Carton - correction, Lampard was only manager at Chelsea for 18 months but you forget that he was at Derby before that. I'm always bemused that so called great players who want to be managers seem to walk into a job at championship level instead of having to start in the lower leagues.
Because someboby was a great manager it does not follow that they will be a great manager, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore and Sol Campbell all tried management without success.
We have a long list of former top flight players who have failed in management here, Toni Marchi, Ron Flowers, Bill Baxter, Paddy Crerand Justin Edingburgh and JFH to name a few.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on January 28, 2021, 14:21:11 pm
i notice in todayís interview in the Chron , Curle implies some players could have their contracts paid up enabling them to move on and subsequently us to bring another player in .
i may have misinterpreted that but surely players dont hang around when they could be paid up to leave ?
Maybe he is referring to a compromise deal in which they get a percentage to leave but not the full
amount otherwise why wouldnít you just clear off !


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 28, 2021, 14:22:04 pm
Please get back to the subject ffs...i don't care about Lampard being sacked!

KC said still no intention of offering Holmes anything yet, as still waiting for last minute deals for other targets, before window closes on Monday. Completely understandable and an option if we don't get anyone else in before Monday (unless Holmes signs elsewhere of course)

Still hoping Martin/Marshall/Missalou get fixed up elsewhere before Monday...I'd still keep Marshall esp as Miller now out for at least 3 weeks, but if KC isn't gonna play him may as well get rid.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 29, 2021, 14:20:17 pm
Any transfer news today ntfclad? Cheers


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 29, 2021, 14:24:34 pm
This I like, you may have the beginnings of a robust business plan there, imagine the possibilities.

I don't think it would be hard to replace the Guardians social media team to be honest.

Pick one to blame at random and then post :
  • Brexit
  • Racism
  • Men
  • Jeremy Corbyn

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 29, 2021, 14:35:30 pm
I don't think it would be hard to replace the Guardians social media team to be honest.

Pick one to blame at random and then post :
  • Brexit
  • Racism
  • Men
  • Jeremy Corbyn

 ;D ;D ;D
👍😂


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfc_kjd on January 29, 2021, 16:54:00 pm
Outgoing expected.

Martin or Marshall probably.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 29, 2021, 17:10:12 pm
Martin back to stevenage. Best for all parties.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 29, 2021, 17:14:58 pm
Makes sense for everyone,  hopefully Marshall & Missilou can get moves too


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 29, 2021, 17:15:27 pm
One of the most disappointing signings I can ever remember. Bye Joe - don't let the door hit you on the arse on your way out...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on January 29, 2021, 17:17:37 pm
In answer to TheShoeArmy1897 and Letchworth Cobb, Iíd be surprised if there was an incoming before the deadline


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 29, 2021, 17:33:19 pm
In answer to TheShoeArmy1897 and Letchworth Cobb, Iíd be surprised if there was an incoming before the deadline

Cheers! So I guess we will make a signing on deadline day?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 29, 2021, 18:07:59 pm
I like the glass half-full attitude, but thats not what the post suggest. Besides, other than real quality becoming unexpected available, do we qctually need reinforcements? I said at the start that I wanted a wing back and a centre mid, and we seem to have brought both in with quality above our incumbents. Could have done with a real quality keeper, but Mitchell has done enough recently.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on January 29, 2021, 18:21:41 pm
We can always call on Morgan Roberts and Ethan Johnston if needed. I think both the loan deals have been cancelled because both Brackley and Kettering's season has been suspended.

That is a real problem for young players - unable to find clubs lower down the pyramid that has a knock-on effect on their development.   


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2021, 18:40:33 pm
I like the glass half-full attitude, but thats not what the post suggest. Besides, other than real quality becoming unexpected available, do we qctually need reinforcements? I said at the start that I wanted a wing back and a centre mid, and we seem to have brought both in with quality above our incumbents. Could have done with a real quality keeper, but Mitchell has done enough recently.

Feel we need a replacement for Sheehan and a goal scorer (should they exist  >:D).


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 29, 2021, 19:05:24 pm
I don't think it would be hard to replace the Guardians social media team to be honest.

Pick one to blame at random and then post :
  • Brexit
  • Racism
  • Men
  • Jeremy Corbyn

 ;D ;D ;D

Because I am regularly reminded that this is NOT a political forum I feel, for the sake of balance, I should mention the Sun, Daily Express and Daily Mails preference for stories that blame ..
1) Germans
2) French
3) Poles
4) Romanians
5) single mothers
6) under 25 yr olds
7) Black people
8) brown people
9) yellow people
10) Scots Nationalists
Actually, anyone that doesnít have the good grace to have English as a first language and a nice fair skin colouring.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 29, 2021, 19:37:34 pm
Carton - correction, Lampard was only manager at Chelsea for 18 months but you forget that he was at Derby before that. I'm always bemused that so called great players who want to be managers seem to walk into a job at championship level instead of having to start in the lower leagues.
Because someboby was a great manager it does not follow that they will be a great manager

I would have thought that was the perfect recipe for a 'great manager'!  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on January 29, 2021, 19:40:55 pm
This is what Alex Revell says about his new signing "his experience, quality and set piece prowess will make him an extremely valuable addition to the squad." Sounds like he's got himself a hell of a player.
Stevenage board seem underwhelmed, one comment says "he's consistent, always gives 50%."


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 29, 2021, 19:49:36 pm
Feel we need a replacement for Sheehan and a goal scorer (should they exist  >:D).

I take it you mean injury cover for Sheehan not a replacement! and the chance of anyone lucky enough to have a goal scorer giving them up is zero


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 29, 2021, 20:04:35 pm
I take it you mean injury cover for Sheehan not a replacement! and the chance of anyone lucky enough to have a goal scorer giving them up is zero

Yep you are right - comes a point that if Sheehan is only available every other 8/10 games then it makes selection somewhat tedious! I wonder if Alfie May is worth a look? Seems to score about 10 goals a season and did ok for Doncaster.









Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 29, 2021, 20:13:34 pm
This is what Alex Revell says about his new signing "his experience, quality and set piece prowess will make him an extremely valuable addition to the squad." Sounds like he's got himself a hell of a player.
Stevenage board seem underwhelmed, one comment says "he's consistent, always gives 50%."

😂😂


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 30, 2021, 09:28:33 am
Because I am regularly reminded that this is NOT a political forum I feel, for the sake of balance, I should mention the Sun, Daily Express and Daily Mails

You missed poor Jeremy Corbyn, poor bloke gets it from both sides


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on January 30, 2021, 10:50:43 am
This is what Alex Revell says about his new signing "his experience, quality and set piece prowess will make him an extremely valuable addition to the squad." Sounds like he's got himself a hell of a player.
Stevenage board seem underwhelmed, one comment says "he's consistent, always gives 50%."

Does Revell think he has signed Alan Sheehan ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 30, 2021, 11:25:39 am
You missed pure Jeremy Corbyn, poor bloke gets it from both sides

How he managed to lose elections to both Theresa May and Boris Johnson, I would imagine most people would struggle to do that if even they were trying not to win.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 30, 2021, 12:01:13 pm
Oxford United's homegrown star, Jordan Obita has shocked our friends down the road, by leaving after just several months ago signing a contract.

To be fair to the lad, you can't knock him signing for a bigger and more successful club in the Championship!  :D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on January 30, 2021, 12:46:22 pm
How he managed to lose elections to both Theresa May and Boris Johnson, I would imagine most people would struggle to do that if even they were trying not to win.
Simples, Steptoe is an enemy of the state and a terrorist sympathiser, who the fcuk would vote for a c*** like that?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 30, 2021, 12:47:14 pm
Oxford United's homegrown star, Jordan Obita has shocked our friends down the road, by leaving after just several months ago signing a contract.

To be fair to the lad, you can't knock him signing for a bigger and more successful club in the Championship!  :D
Call me old fashioned, but I am starting to suspect you are not fond of the ewes cat?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on January 30, 2021, 13:15:09 pm
Call me old fashioned, but I am starting to suspect you are not fond of the ewes cat?
Same prick as before on their forum...
I see the Northampton game is still on despite there being the same amount of rain when we were due to play them.

In balance of fairness, requoted.
Still, comment has aged well!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on January 30, 2021, 14:05:19 pm
Simples, Steptoe is an enemy of the state and a terrorist sympathiser, who the fcuk would vote for a c*** like that?

Come on Winslow step up to your fiery reputation!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 30, 2021, 17:42:38 pm
How he managed to lose elections to both Theresa May and Boris Johnson, I would imagine most people would struggle to do that if even they were trying not to win.

 ;D ;D



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 31, 2021, 07:57:03 am
Interesting piece?

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/finance-expert-warns-major-issue-facing-league-one-clubs-should-have-sunderlands-out-contract-players-fearing-their-futures-3107956


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 31, 2021, 11:05:23 am
Would like to see a creative/attacking focused central midfielder come in on loan, with Marshall and Missilou leaving for the own best interests in getting contracts for next year.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 31, 2021, 17:01:49 pm
To be fair, the article wasn't exactly insightful. Sunderland's budget is being decreased by 75% so players coming to the end of their contract are going to have take a huge pay cut. No ****! I guess they'll just have to make do on £130k per year. 


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on January 31, 2021, 19:19:52 pm
So, any ins or outs tomorrow ntfclad?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 01, 2021, 09:53:55 am
Club just tweeted that today is expected to be a quiet day on the transfer front, all preparations are for tomorrow nights game - if it's on with rain expected all day tomorrow in Blackpool. Sounds a bit familiar.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 01, 2021, 11:20:22 am
How many spots do we have left in the 22 once Holmes signs?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on February 01, 2021, 11:57:37 am
Well I hope a "quiet day" means that we only sign one striker! We probably need two.

We only have one striker with any pedigree of actually scoring goals in League football - Danny Rose.

The rest of them - Chukwuemeka, Ashley-Seal and Edmondson have, unless I am totally mistaken, a total of 1 League goal between them, albeit they have not played that much.

I was no fan of Smith, but at least he has scored 18 League goals, which makes him look a prolific scorer in comparison.

Being fair to our strikers they really have had to work off scraps so far this season. Hopefully a few more scoring chances will come their way in the second half of the season.

However, if there are no new signings it looks as if Sammy will have to revert to playing up front if Rose gets injured....  He might have to do that anyway....


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 12:10:24 pm
Sammy will probably replace Rose up top if he's not needed at the back anymore?  8)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 01, 2021, 12:33:17 pm
EFL Hub report that Stevenage, Blackpool and N'pton are interested in signing Tranmere Rovers winger Corey Blackett-Taylor.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 13:00:14 pm
EFL Hub report that Stevenage, Blackpool and N'pton are interested in signing Tranmere Rovers winger Corey Blackett-Taylor.
Suggests that Miller is crocked big time.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 13:01:37 pm
Sammy will probably replace Rose up top if he's not needed at the back anymore?  8)
Did I mention before that I absolutely love Super Fcuking Sam !


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 13:10:39 pm
EFL Hub report that Stevenage, Blackpool and N'pton are interested in signing Tranmere Rovers winger Corey Blackett-Taylor.

Nothing in this whatsoever, according to James from the Chron, who has just spoken to KC who confirmed no activity expected today either in or out.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 13:12:15 pm
Did I mention before that I absolutely love Super Fcuking Sam !

I won... ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 13:13:11 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-gives-deadline-day-update-3119600


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 01, 2021, 13:25:40 pm
Good to see JFH hasn't changed his ways. Signing new players for undisclosed fees probably on big wages. I worry for Burton and there financial future with him in charge.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 14:07:55 pm
Good to see JFH hasn't changed his ways. Signing new players for undisclosed fees probably on big wages. I worry for Burton and there financial future with him in charge.

Looks like they're bringing in Ryan Broom on loan now too...

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/summer-signing-set-leave-posh-league-one-rivals-3119497 (https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/summer-signing-set-leave-posh-league-one-rivals-3119497)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 01, 2021, 15:17:35 pm
Baah the young lad who has helped with Rochdale's resurgence is subject to a war between Bayern and Man City.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 01, 2021, 15:19:24 pm
Not that it will effect us but Brentford have signed Winston Ried knocking Goode and Racic down the pecking order.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 15:24:28 pm
Not that it will effect us but Brentford have signed Winston Ried knocking Goode and Racic down the pecking order.
I sense that deep down thereís a smidgin of hope in that post?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on February 01, 2021, 15:29:09 pm
I sense that deep down thereís a smidgin of hope in that post?
Are you suggesting Rubbic, sorry Racic was returned too early?  ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 15:36:16 pm
Are you suggesting Rubbic, sorry Racic was returned too early?  ;)
Not in this life cat.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 01, 2021, 15:41:26 pm
Looks like they're bringing in Ryan Broom on loan now too...

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/summer-signing-set-leave-posh-league-one-rivals-3119497 (https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/summer-signing-set-leave-posh-league-one-rivals-3119497)

Just the sort of player we need!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 01, 2021, 15:43:28 pm
I sense that deep down thereís a smidgin of hope in that post?

I'm not crying, your crying  :'(


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on February 01, 2021, 15:51:24 pm
Baah the young lad who has helped with Rochdale's resurgence is subject to a war between Bayern and Man City.

Interesting. It takes a special player to catch my eye for the opposition because I admit to watching our games with claret tinted glasses on! When that lad came on against us earlier this season, I was saying to my son why on earth hasn't he been playing since the start. He completely changed the dynamics of their team; the opposition player that stands out most to me by far this season. The other one was Dembele...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 01, 2021, 16:32:50 pm
Interesting. It takes a special player to catch my eye for the opposition because I admit to watching our games with claret tinted glasses on! When that lad came on against us earlier this season, I was saying to my son why on earth hasn't he been playing since the start. He completely changed the dynamics of their team; the opposition player that stands out most to me by far this season. The other one was Dembele...

Agreed he has Scary pace!


Edit  : Confirmed signed for City but stays at Rochdale .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 01, 2021, 17:24:29 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/february/transfer_window_roundup/

Alan Sheehan included as an "incoming" for signing a new contract?  ???

I think we should have brought in one more in the mould of Mickel Miller (another player able to play across the attacking midfield areas or up front), but overall I'm happy with the quality of the additions. We're certainly stronger coming out of the window which can't be said of every team! Look at Crewe, losing both their highly rated wing backs and the impressive Charlie Kirk maybe out the door also.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 01, 2021, 18:39:02 pm
I'm not crying, your crying  :'(

Never really got the hype about Ryan Broom when he was at Cheltenham, albeit only on the few times I saw him I wasnít impressed.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on February 01, 2021, 19:03:15 pm
Had one last check, club not working on anything significant to beat the deadline


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 01, 2021, 19:58:59 pm
KC says he will be looking at unattached players after the window closes. He thinks some players will ask to be released from their contracts so they can look for another club now instead of waiting until the end of the season when there will be lots of players available.
On another topic Joe Bunney, who asked to be released from Hartlepool, has signed for Grimsby.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 01, 2021, 20:30:42 pm
On another topic Joe Bunney, who asked to be released from Hartlepool, has signed for Grimsby.

Still hard to believe that we paid money for him to play in League One! Looked so out of his depth with us I'm not sure Brackley or Kettering would have taken him off our hands!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 20:32:14 pm
Sam Foley joins Smith at Motherwell.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 01, 2021, 20:52:18 pm
Possible outgoing...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 01, 2021, 22:30:01 pm
Missilou to Swindon.

Thatís a shame, he wasnít bad.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 22:39:25 pm
Christopher is also a good age. We want players with the ambition, hunger and desire to progress and he is very much in that bracket while also having a good amount of experience. He has played a lot of games over the last two years.

"He has always impressed us when we have watched him and we are delighted to welcome him to Northampton Town."

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on February 01, 2021, 22:42:34 pm
Have we been watching a different Missilou?

He offered nothing apart from fouling people. Couldn't pass it to anyone in our team.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 01, 2021, 22:45:31 pm
Dons have slashed out on Will Grigg!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 01, 2021, 22:50:42 pm
Christopher is also a good age. We want players with the ambition, hunger and desire to progress and he is very much in that bracket while also having a good amount of experience. He has played a lot of games over the last two years.

"He has always impressed us when we have watched him and we are delighted to welcome him to Northampton Town."

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

6 months is a long time in Curle world!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 01, 2021, 22:54:17 pm
Dons have slashed out on Will Grigg!

Grigg is reported to be on £6,000 a week and MK will pay 25% of his wages during the loan spell.

To me that's not bad business!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 22:58:48 pm
Grigg is reported to be on £6,000 a week and MK will pay 25% of his wages during the loan spell.

To me that's not bad business!!
I really really dislike MK Dons.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on February 01, 2021, 23:10:56 pm
Grigg is reported to be on £6,000 a week and MK will pay 25% of his wages during the loan spell.

To me that's not bad business!!
Reported to be on £14,000 a week at Sunderland!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 01, 2021, 23:12:34 pm
Reported to be on £14,000 a week at Sunderland!
Nugent gone to Tranny on loan from PNE.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 01, 2021, 23:14:36 pm
Missilou to Swindon.

Thatís a shame, he wasnít bad.

With McWilliams, Morris, Sowerby & Watson already ahead of him and fighting for 2/3 places he was clearly unlikely to get much if any game time for the rest of the season before being released. It makes sense for him when this summer it is likely to be tough to get a new club to get game time, just surprised Marshall in a similar position also didnít leave.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 01, 2021, 23:18:12 pm
Looking at the squad now, if we were to pick up and injury or two in defence, wingback or central midfield we would be absolutely screwed.

Curle must have free agents lined up. He must do. No sensible manager would allow the squad to become this thin in a relegation battle?!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on February 02, 2021, 01:35:19 am
Nugent gone to Tranny on loan from PNE.

The amount of people who are transitioning. It's truly shocking! Will he still be allowed to play in the men's league?  :P ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on February 02, 2021, 08:50:51 am
Missilou to Swindon.

Thatís a shame, he wasnít bad.
Itís a great move, it makes Swindon weaker


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on February 02, 2021, 08:52:01 am
The amount of people who are transitioning. It's truly shocking! Will he still be allowed to play in the men's league?  :P ;)
;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CJ on February 02, 2021, 09:20:52 am
The amount of people who are transitioning. It's truly shocking! Will he still be allowed to play in the men's league?  :P ;)
Small point but I don't think trannys transition they just tend to get dressed up at the weekend, so once on the field shouldn't be a problem?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 02, 2021, 10:05:06 am
The amount of people who are transitioning. It's truly shocking! Will he still be allowed to play in the men's league?  :P ;)
;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 02, 2021, 10:13:25 am
People on here are moaning about a small squad when 22 players is the limit for all clubs. That's nobody's fault and makes it inevitable that there won't be a lot of cover in every position. I think KC has been brave in this window and has achieved much more than I expected. I personally was hoping Smith, Adams, Lines and Martin would all move on, but I didn't think KC would want to move players on that he'd signed and thus basically admitt he'd made mistakes (I was wrong) and even if he did I thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of all of them (I was wrong again).

Miller, Morris and Kioso in particular already look like improvements on those players who've gone. Obviously we'll see in the coming weeks how much of a difference the new signings make, but I think KC deserves some credit for what looks like some pretty astute business over the last month.

I've been critical of him over the last couple of months due to some very poor tactics and performances, but I like the fact he does (eventually) react and see when things aren't working and is willing to make changes. Other managers (Boothroyd, Page and JED spring to mind) just carried on and on the same way. KC will not often admitt he's made a mistake or criticise individual players, but he clearly sees when things aren't working and is willing to act on it, within whatever budget constraints he has. While I'm sure there will be some dour encounters between now and the end of the season, I'm certainly more optimistic about our chances of staying up and seeing a slightly better brand of football. Our possession stats have reached the dizzy heights of 40% in a couple of matches recently and that's got to be progress.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 02, 2021, 11:17:38 am
People on here are moaning about a small squad when 22 players is the limit for all clubs. That's nobody's fault and makes it inevitable that there won't be a lot of cover in every position. I think KC has been brave in this window and has achieved much more than I expected. I personally was hoping Smith, Adams, Lines and Martin would all move on, but I didn't think KC would want to move players on that he'd signed and thus basically admitt he'd made mistakes (I was wrong) and even if he did I thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of all of them (I was wrong again).

Miller, Morris and Kioso in particular already look like improvements on those players who've gone. Obviously we'll see in the coming weeks how much of a difference the new signings make, but I think KC deserves some credit for what looks like some pretty astute business over the last month.

I've been critical of him over the last couple of months due to some very poor tactics and performances, but I like the fact he does (eventually) react and see when things aren't working and is willing to make changes. Other managers (Boothroyd, Page and JED spring to mind) just carried on and on the same way. KC will not often admitt he's made a mistake or criticise individual players, but he clearly sees when things aren't working and is willing to act on it, within whatever budget constraints he has. While I'm sure there will be some dour encounters between now and the end of the season, I'm certainly more optimistic about our chances of staying up and seeing a slightly better brand of football. Our possession stats have reached the dizzy heights of 40% in a couple of matches recently and that's got to be progress.

But our squad is currently 18 players over 21, that's 4 short. The rest are youngsters from the academy or players with little experience.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 02, 2021, 11:47:39 am
People on here are moaning about a small squad when 22 players is the limit for all clubs. That's nobody's fault and makes it inevitable that there won't be a lot of cover in every position. I think KC has been brave in this window and has achieved much more than I expected. I personally was hoping Smith, Adams, Lines and Martin would all move on, but I didn't think KC would want to move players on that he'd signed and thus basically admitt he'd made mistakes (I was wrong) and even if he did I thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of all of them (I was wrong again).

Miller, Morris and Kioso in particular already look like improvements on those players who've gone. Obviously we'll see in the coming weeks how much of a difference the new signings make, but I think KC deserves some credit for what looks like some pretty astute business over the last month.

I've been critical of him over the last couple of months due to some very poor tactics and performances, but I like the fact he does (eventually) react and see when things aren't working and is willing to make changes. Other managers (Boothroyd, Page and JED spring to mind) just carried on and on the same way. KC will not often admitt he's made a mistake or criticise individual players, but he clearly sees when things aren't working and is willing to act on it, within whatever budget constraints he has. While I'm sure there will be some dour encounters between now and the end of the season, I'm certainly more optimistic about our chances of staying up and seeing a slightly better brand of football. Our possession stats have reached the dizzy heights of 40% in a couple of matches recently and that's got to be progress.

I don't disagree with you about it being a positive thing that Curle is starting to be open to change. He's shipped out the right players and the additions all look good so far.

But as Teachers Pet says, we've got 18 players over the 21 y/o mark. That is only enough 'senior' players to make up a matchday squad.

Let's look at those aged 21 and under in the squad (as per the first team on the official site): Dylan Berry, Max Dyche, Josh Flanagan, Morgan Roberts, Liam Cross, Caleb Chukwuemeka, and Ethan Johnston. Whilst it is positive to see lots of academy players in there, realistically only Chukwuemeka is ready to play on a regular basis. And he cannot get into the side as where he plays is the only area of the pitch where we have surplus cover.

The issue is that not enough players have come in. 7 player have left in January (8 if you include Nuttall), with only 4 coming in.

Look at centre back options: Bolger, Jones, Sheehan, Horsfall - Four players, one of which is very injury prone. Another injury or two and we're in trouble.

Left back / wing back: Mills - Another injury to him and the balance of the team goes out of the window again. If Adams and Martin were cover, why has no-one been brought in to provide cover/competition?

Centre midfield: Sowerby, McWilliams, Morris, Watson - This area looks strong with three of these starting, but an injury to Sowerby means we have no replacement option from the bench now. The sooner Pollock (who I think is a talented player) can get back to being fit enough for a cameo off the bench, the better. But even so, should we not have brought in one more given the number of games are coming up? Injuries will be inevitable.


As it stands we are playing a dangerous game with lack of cover in these positions. I just hope KC and his team know of suitable options that are unattached.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 02, 2021, 12:17:41 pm
Dont panic guys, the boss has said he is looking at players that are unattached.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on February 02, 2021, 12:24:56 pm
People on here are moaning about a small squad when 22 players is the limit for all clubs. That's nobody's fault and makes it inevitable that there won't be a lot of cover in every position. I think KC has been brave in this window and has achieved much more than I expected. I personally was hoping Smith, Adams, Lines and Martin would all move on, but I didn't think KC would want to move players on that he'd signed and thus basically admitt he'd made mistakes (I was wrong) and even if he did I thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of all of them (I was wrong again).

Miller, Morris and Kioso in particular already look like improvements on those players who've gone. Obviously we'll see in the coming weeks how much of a difference the new signings make, but I think KC deserves some credit for what looks like some pretty astute business over the last month.

I've been critical of him over the last couple of months due to some very poor tactics and performances, but I like the fact he does (eventually) react and see when things aren't working and is willing to make changes. Other managers (Boothroyd, Page and JED spring to mind) just carried on and on the same way. KC will not often admitt he's made a mistake or criticise individual players, but he clearly sees when things aren't working and is willing to act on it, within whatever budget constraints he has. While I'm sure there will be some dour encounters between now and the end of the season, I'm certainly more optimistic about our chances of staying up and seeing a slightly better brand of football. Our possession stats have reached the dizzy heights of 40% in a couple of matches recently and that's got to be progress.
Very good post Madrid.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 02, 2021, 12:52:19 pm
Obviously Edmondson and Kioso arenít included in the 18 but are both more than ready to play.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 12:57:58 pm
I don't disagree with you about it being a positive thing that Curle is starting to be open to change. He's shipped out the right players and the additions all look good so far.

But as Teachers Pet says, we've got 18 players over the 21 y/o mark. That is only enough 'senior' players to make up a matchday squad.

Let's look at those aged 21 and under in the squad (as per the first team on the official site): Dylan Berry, Max Dyche, Josh Flanagan, Morgan Roberts, Liam Cross, Caleb Chukwuemeka, and Ethan Johnston. Whilst it is positive to see lots of academy players in there, realistically only Chukwuemeka is ready to play on a regular basis. And he cannot get into the side as where he plays is the only area of the pitch where we have surplus cover.

The issue is that not enough players have come in. 7 player have left in January (8 if you include Nuttall), with only 4 coming in.

Look at centre back options: Bolger, Jones, Sheehan, Horsfall - Four players, one of which is very injury prone. Another injury or two and we're in trouble.

Left back / wing back: Mills - Another injury to him and the balance of the team goes out of the window again. If Adams and Martin were cover, why has no-one been brought in to provide cover/competition?

Centre midfield: Sowerby, McWilliams, Morris, Watson - This area looks strong with three of these starting, but an injury to Sowerby means we have no replacement option from the bench now. The sooner Pollock (who I think is a talented player) can get back to being fit enough for a cameo off the bench, the better. But even so, should we not have brought in one more given the number of games are coming up? Injuries will be inevitable.

 
As it stands we are playing a dangerous game with lack of cover in these positions. I just hope KC and his team know of suitable options that are unattached.

Pointless to worry too much about possible potential problems. Curle has decided to move on a few players who are unlikely to have much game time on match days. Perhaps Teacher can do a more in-depth study of player alternating in various positions for instance Marshall, Hoskins and Rose? Some views appear to be optimistic for example Pollock who has played very little to justify a label of highly promising. Only an extended run of matches can we actually determine his true ability! To me he appears to be too injury prone to become an established League One player?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 02, 2021, 12:58:14 pm
Did we receive a fee for Missilou as the transfer was reported on teletext as undisclosed?.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on February 02, 2021, 13:04:11 pm
People on here are moaning about a small squad when 22 players is the limit for all clubs. That's nobody's fault and makes it inevitable that there won't be a lot of cover in every position. I think KC has been brave in this window and has achieved much more than I expected. I personally was hoping Smith, Adams, Lines and Martin would all move on, but I didn't think KC would want to move players on that he'd signed and thus basically admitt he'd made mistakes (I was wrong) and even if he did I thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of all of them (I was wrong again).

Miller, Morris and Kioso in particular already look like improvements on those players who've gone. Obviously we'll see in the coming weeks how much of a difference the new signings make, but I think KC deserves some credit for what looks like some pretty astute business over the last month.

I've been critical of him over the last couple of months due to some very poor tactics and performances, but I like the fact he does (eventually) react and see when things aren't working and is willing to make changes. Other managers (Boothroyd, Page and JED spring to mind) just carried on and on the same way. KC will not often admitt he's made a mistake or criticise individual players, but he clearly sees when things aren't working and is willing to act on it, within whatever budget constraints he has. While I'm sure there will be some dour encounters between now and the end of the season, I'm certainly more optimistic about our chances of staying up and seeing a slightly better brand of football. Our possession stats have reached the dizzy heights of 40% in a couple of matches recently and that's got to be progress.
I agree with nearly all of this. I have been quite critical of KC but he has shown signs of flexibility recently and the new recruits look promising.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 13:05:09 pm
Did we receive a fee for Missilou as the transfer was reported on teletext as undisclosed?.

 ;D £100k ?  


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 13:06:23 pm
I agree with nearly all of this. I have been quite critical of KC but he has shown signs of flexibility recently and the new recruits look promising.


+


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 02, 2021, 13:14:34 pm
Dont panic guys, the boss has said he is looking at players that are unattached.

  ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 02, 2021, 13:17:39 pm
I agree with nearly all of this. I have been quite critical of KC but he has shown signs of flexibility recently and the new recruits look promising.

I think itís got more to do with the massive rollicking Curle received from KT.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 02, 2021, 13:18:55 pm
I agree with nearly all of this. I have been quite critical of KC but he has shown signs of flexibility recently and the new recruits look promising.

Agreed. I think he has got rid of the right people and brought in seemingly better plays.

All with Manworks beloved house keeping award in tact  ;)



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 13:32:35 pm
........
All with Manworks beloved house keeping award in tact  ;)

 :o


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 02, 2021, 13:37:23 pm
Did we receive a fee for Missilou as the transfer was reported on teletext as undisclosed?.

Sky Sports were showing it as a free?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wanderingteyn on February 02, 2021, 13:38:43 pm
More players at poor quality or less players at better quality..


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on February 02, 2021, 13:39:24 pm
I definitley feel that the January business has been good and there are upgrades across the board.

I think given a squad of 22, its safe to say that you want 2 senior players in every position, so if you look at the 3 formations we've played this year, you can see that there is a clear gap on the left side of defence, especially given Sheehan's injury record.
Some of the wide cover is questionable too with Korboa not really looking the part and Marshall clearly not in favour.
Of the youngsters (Chuck aside), it's only really Roberts and Pollock who could be considered close to the senior squad. Pollock could provide good cover at CM if he gets fit.
I think we'll struggle to find a good free-agent striker, so we'll have to hope the current lads start scoring. You'd like to think we could get a half decent left sided defender and another attacking midfielder to bolster the squad though. Other than that, I don't think we're looking too bad compared to other teams in and around us.

4-4-2
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
CB1: Bolger/Jones
CB2: Sheehan/Horsfall
LB: Mills/ ?
RB: Kioso/Harriman
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
LM: Miller/Korboa
RM: Hoskins/Marshall
ST1: Rose/Chuck
ST2: Edmunson/BAS

4-3-3 / 4-5-1
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
CB1: Bolger/Jones
CB2: Sheehan/Horsfall
LB: Mills/ ?
RB: Kioso/Harriman
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
AM: Hoskins/Miller
LW: Marshall/Rose
RW: Korboa/Chuck
ST: Edmunson/BAS

3-5-2
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
RCB: Harriman/Jones
CB: Bolger/Horsfall
LCB: Sheehan/ ?
LWB: Mills/Korboa
RWB: Kioso/Marshall
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
AM: Hoskins/Miller
ST1: Rose/Chuck
ST2: Edmunson/BAS


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Buster on February 02, 2021, 13:44:21 pm
I think itís wise to leave a few spaces available.  KC can get the measure of what he has at his disposal during proper games, not just on the practice ground, or watching VC.  If over the coming weeks he identifies positions where we need strengthening then there are plenty of unattached player at all levels available.  If he has to go beyond the current wage structure to get the right man he at least has capacity to do so with the reduced numbers we currently have.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 14:07:55 pm
I definitley feel that the January business has been good and there are upgrades across the board.

I think given a squad of 22, its safe to say that you want 2 senior players in every position, so if you look at the 3 formations we've played this year, you can see that there is a clear gap on the left side of defence, especially given Sheehan's injury record.
Some of the wide cover is questionable too with Korboa not really looking the part and Marshall clearly not in favour.
Of the youngsters (Chuck aside), it's only really Roberts and Pollock who could be considered close to the senior squad. Pollock could provide good cover at CM if he gets fit.
I think we'll struggle to find a good free-agent striker, so we'll have to hope the current lads start scoring. You'd like to think we could get a half decent left sided defender and another attacking midfielder to bolster the squad though. Other than that, I don't think we're looking too bad compared to other teams in and around us.

4-4-2
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
CB1: Bolger/Jones
CB2: Sheehan/Horsfall
LB: Mills/ ?
RB: Kioso/Harriman
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
LM: Miller/Korboa
RM: Hoskins/Marshall
ST1: Rose/Chuck
ST2: Edmunson/BAS

4-3-3 / 4-5-1
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
CB1: Bolger/Jones
CB2: Sheehan/Horsfall
LB: Mills/ ?
RB: Kioso/Harriman
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
AM: Hoskins/Miller
LW: Marshall/Rose
RW: Korboa/Chuck
ST: Edmunson/BAS

3-5-2
GK: Arnold/Mitchell
RCB: Harriman/Jones
CB: Bolger/Horsfall
LCB: Sheehan/ ?
LWB: Mills/Korboa
RWB: Kioso/Marshall
CM1: McWilliams/Morris
CM2: Watson/Sowerby
AM: Hoskins/Miller
ST1: Rose/Chuck
ST2: Edmunson/BAS

Interesting assessment; my money is on selection 3? What do you think TP & OAP?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 02, 2021, 15:28:28 pm
I can see the formation changing from game to game a bit.
With a fully fit squad I would tend to think 5-3-2:

Mitchell
Mills
Jones
Bolger
Sheehan
Kioso
McWilliams
Morris
Sowerby/Watson
Rose/Edmondson
Miller/Hoskins


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on February 02, 2021, 16:46:14 pm
More players at poor quality or less players at better quality..

i think the latter was the **** CW took when we won the league - we got lucky with holmes and lack of injuries and he had energetic bit part players like hoskins and d'ath to fill the gaps when needed.

sadly, we have since used one of those bit part clowns as our teams undroppable playmaker - which is why we are shat in front of goal.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 02, 2021, 17:01:15 pm
Pointless to worry too much about possible potential problems. Curle has decided to move on a few players who are unlikely to have much game time on match days. Perhaps Teacher can do a more in-depth study of player alternating in various positions for instance Marshall, Hoskins and Rose? Some views appear to be optimistic for example Pollock who has played very little to justify a label of highly promising. Only an extended run of matches can we actually determine his true ability! To me he appears to be too injury prone to become an established League One player?

I notice that you have revised this post from what it said originally - that was a good call.

Was there any need for the patronising "Perhaps Teacher can do a more in-depth study of player" though? My post was perfectly clear and well-reasoned. The positions I identified are the problem areas in my opinion, the other areas of the pitch we have decent strength in depth.

Once again to clarify to others that seem to have misinterpreted my post, I agree with you all that our new signings are all seemingly good additions, and that the players who have left were the right players to get out the door.

However, the point that I am making is that we are one injury in either the CB, LWB, or CM positions from being a little bit stuffed. I am questioning why only 4 players came in. I am not questioning the ability of those 4.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 02, 2021, 17:48:34 pm

However, the point that I am making is that we are one injury in either the CB, LWB, or CM positions from being a little bit stuffed. I am questioning why only 4 players came in. I am not questioning the ability of those 4.

Despite the players going out the only position you mentioned where I would say we could be a bit weak is LWB. Central midfield Missilou and Lines have gone out who werenít in contention with Morris coming straight in and looking good, along with McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson we have 4 good options for 2/3 places. Central defence is similar with Racic and Martin leaving who were not in contention with Jones again coming straight in with Bolger and Sheehan. If we get injuries we have Horsfall & Harriman who were both already higher in the pecking order than the 2 that left. I guess at left wing back KC will just either use Harriman or one of the attacking players like Korboa.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 02, 2021, 18:09:39 pm
Despite the players going out the only position you mentioned where I would say we could be a bit weak is LWB. Central midfield Missilou and Lines have gone out who werenít in contention with Morris coming straight in and looking good, along with McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson we have 4 good options for 2/3 places. Central defence is similar with Racic and Martin leaving who were not in contention with Jones again coming straight in with Bolger and Sheehan. If we get injuries we have Horsfall & Harriman who were both already higher in the pecking order than the 2 that left. I guess at left wing back KC will just either use Harriman or one of the attacking players like Korboa.


I'll accept your point regarding the centre back position, even though I think Harriman is a poor replacement.

Once again though, my post is being misconstrued. I'm not disputing that Missilou or Lines were in contention nor should have been. I've copied and pasted this from my original post:

Centre midfield: Sowerby, McWilliams, Morris, Watson - This area looks strong with three of these starting, but an injury to Sowerby means we have no replacement option from the bench now.

Yes Morris is great, yes the balance in midfield is good right now. But, if we get another injury, who plays then? We already don't have a midfield replacement on the bench now that Sowerby picked up an injury.

We need more depth than we have. We're going to have a few weeks in a row where the team will play 3 times in 7 days. There's no way that those players are going to play every game without picking up knocks. And when it happens, the team will be weakened, and we will most likely drop crucial points that could be decisive in the relegation battle.

Now I don't know if KC has free agent targets in mind or not. But after just looking at free agents now on Transfermarkt, there certainly aren't currently many available at all that would be realistic. That could change in the future, but it might not necessarily. It feels like we are sleepwalking into an issue here.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 02, 2021, 23:44:26 pm
I notice that you have revised this post from what it said originally - that was a good call.

Was there any need for the patronising "Perhaps Teacher can do a more in-depth study of player" though? My post was perfectly clear and well-reasoned. The positions I identified are the problem areas in my opinion, the other areas of the pitch we have decent strength in depth.

Once again to clarify to others that seem to have misinterpreted my post, I agree with you all that our new signings are all seemingly good additions, and that the players who have left were the right players to get out the door.

However, the point that I am making is that we are one injury in either the CB, LWB, or CM positions from being a little bit stuffed. I am questioning why only 4 players came in. I am not questioning the ability of those 4.

I hear what you say but saying we are one injury away(from disaster?) in three positions is a bit OTT when we have Harriman who is a defensive player.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 04, 2021, 08:00:06 am
if we are playing 3 at the back , which appears is going to happen now that the wing back position has been strengthened - we need another centre half .
Sheehan is fine but is simply not available enough . That leaves Horsfall and Bolger playing every week with Jones .
One of those weaknesses you can cover up but both together are a liability every week .
We need a strong , commanding centre half that sees us through the season and helps scrape a few more clean sheets .
Another good keeper wouldnít go amiss either .
Curleís biggest failure this season is the complete mess he has made of replacing the 3 centre halves that cleared off .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 04, 2021, 09:37:31 am
if we are playing 3 at the back , which appears is going to happen now that the wing back position has been strengthened - we need another centre half .
Sheehan is fine but is simply not available enough . That leaves Horsfall and Bolger playing every week with Jones .
One of those weaknesses you can cover up but both together are a liability every week .
We need a strong , commanding centre half that sees us through the season and helps scrape a few more clean sheets .
Another good keeper wouldnít go amiss either .
Curleís biggest failure this season is the complete mess he has made of replacing the 3 centre halves that cleared off .
This is spot on, Horsfall is one of the worst defenders Iíve seen coupled with Bolger itís a disaster waiting to happen, itís really no surprise that we concede so many goals.
The keeper isnít much better, his inability to hold the ball is worrying as his bizarre positioning for free kicks.
We need another Center half, Sheehan is the new McCormack, Curles utter BS about his fitness doesnít help.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 04, 2021, 09:39:49 am
I'm surprised nobody has put Sheehan in the same category as Holmes, he is a luxury that a struggling team cannot afford.

Since signing in October he has only been available for selection 50% of the time (10 apps in 20 games).

Whilst he is great on his day, the money should have been spent one someone that's able to play each game.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on February 04, 2021, 09:44:38 am
Curles utter BS about "insert any football related topic here"

i can't believe how many players still fall for it when speaking to him and signing for us because he has convinced them about our style of play etc - must take one training session for them to realise it was utter bollocks!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 04, 2021, 10:03:26 am
i can't believe how many players still fall for it when speaking to him and signing for us because he has convinced them about our style of play etc - must take one training session for them to realise it was utter bollocks!


Iím not sure if that statement is true. To me it doesnít look like we train at all  :afro


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 04, 2021, 10:34:15 am
I'm surprised nobody has put Sheehan in the same category as Holmes, he is a luxury that a struggling team cannot afford.

Since signing in October he has only been available for selection 50% of the time (10 apps in 20 games).

Whilst he is great on his day, the money should have been spent one someone that's able to play each game.

Should have just kept him on the original pay-as-you-play deal!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 04, 2021, 10:48:20 am
I'm surprised nobody has put Sheehan in the same category as Holmes, he is a luxury that a struggling team cannot afford.

Since signing in October he has only been available for selection 50% of the time (10 apps in 20 games).

Whilst he is great on his day, the money should have been spent one someone that's able to play each game.

I guess the point is he is a level above what we have at the moment, so albeit on the 50% of the time he plays he massively improves us both with his own performance as well as organisation skills. We could replace him with another player but that player is only on the same level as Bolger, Horsfall, Racic which judging by our current recruitment is a strong possibility we donít even get that improvement for half the games.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 04, 2021, 11:36:55 am
I guess the point is he is a level above what we have at the moment, so albeit on the 50% of the time he plays he massively improves us both with his own performance as well as organisation skills. We could replace him with another player but that player is only on the same level as Bolger, Horsfall, Racic which judging by our current recruitment is a strong possibility we donít even get that improvement for half the games.

So we are confident there are no players out there with the ability between Sheehan and Bolger / Horsfall / Racic?

Seems strange to me, we had two on the books last season.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Boot and shoe on February 04, 2021, 12:18:14 pm
I guess the point is he is a level above what we have at the moment, so albeit on the 50% of the time he plays he massively improves us both with his own performance as well as organisation skills. We could replace him with another player but that player is only on the same level as Bolger, Horsfall, Racic which judging by our current recruitment is a strong possibility we donít even get that improvement for half the games.
Thatís all true but exactly the same argument applied to Macca and he released him .
Fine to keep Sheehan but we need another centre half .
I suppose KC canít hold his hands up to all 3 summer centre half signings being useless with Racic already gone . Even his back up, Martin has been shown the door .
Even his screening player , Missilou has failed and he has had to get Morris in .
To be honest , the recruitment has failed on an epic level .


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 04, 2021, 13:02:18 pm
Thatís all true but exactly the same argument applied to Macca and he released him .
Fine to keep Sheehan but we need another centre half .
I suppose KC canít hold his hands up to all 3 summer centre half signings being useless with Racic already gone . Even his back up, Martin has been shown the door .
Even his screening player , Missilou has failed and he has had to get Morris in .
To be honest , the recruitment has failed on an epic level .
If our beloved chairman had one once of interest he would have scrutinised KC a bit more, itís groundhog season once again, p1ss poor summer recruiting, buying better players in Jan (all on loan) and ending up about 4 or five points short.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 04, 2021, 13:08:04 pm
Thatís all true but exactly the same argument applied to Macca and he released him .
Fine to keep Sheehan but we need another centre half .
I suppose KC canít hold his hands up to all 3 summer centre half signings being useless with Racic already gone . Even his back up, Martin has been shown the door .
Even his screening player , Missilou has failed and he has had to get Morris in .
To be honest , the recruitment has failed on an epic level .

El Prophet 'doom - The only thing you only have some justification is your expert assessment
on Sheehan.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 04, 2021, 14:56:47 pm
So we are confident there are no players out there with the ability between Sheehan and Bolger / Horsfall / Racic?

Seems strange to me, we had two on the books last season.

Iím sure there are, do I have any confidence in KC signing them? ... No


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 05, 2021, 12:56:53 pm
I see that Harry is not getting much game time at Motherwell, been on the bench for all three games and introduced between 70-80 minutes each game.
They won 2-1 against Dundee Utd with goals from Devante Cole (who we were once rumoured to be interested in) and Chris Long. Pity we could not have done a swap deal and got Long back as he looked to have a goal in him despite Jimmy sometimes playing him out of position on the wing.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 05, 2021, 13:13:20 pm
I see that Harry is not getting much game time at Motherwell, been on the bench for all three games and introduced between 70-80 minutes each game.
They won 2-1 against Dundee Utd with goals from Devante Cole (who we were once rumoured to be interested in) and Chris Long. Pity we could not have done a swap deal and got Long back as he looked to have a goal in him despite Jimmy sometimes playing him out of position on the wing.
Just as I had foreseen, Smith will be be a bench dweller and come back to us with his head so far up his ar5e we will struggle to shift him.
Cole and Long up front would be a tasty partnership in L1.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 05, 2021, 14:02:44 pm
Just as I had foreseen, Smith will be be a bench dweller and come back to us with his head so far up his ar5e we will struggle to shift him.
Cole and Long up front would be a tasty partnership in L1.

+1

I'm still baffled we turned down a permanent offer and went with a loan.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 05, 2021, 17:35:07 pm
Should have just kept him on the original pay-as-you-play deal!

Thought he was on a player- coach deal ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 05, 2021, 20:33:42 pm
Thought he was on a player- coach deal ;D

He is, so perhaps he's the cheap option to take the reigns, when KC eventually goes!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2021, 20:45:01 pm
He is, so perhaps he's the cheap option to take the reigns, when KC eventually goes!

This realistically is going to be the outcome. And Iím fine with it.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 05, 2021, 20:48:00 pm
This realistically is going to be the outcome. And I’m fine with it.

Really??


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 05, 2021, 20:51:34 pm
He is, so perhaps he's the cheap option to take the reigns, when KC eventually goes!
#

If you don't mind me saying Raggie you really seem to have it in for our beloved Keith ;D - you must have a reason ?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 05, 2021, 21:07:00 pm
#

If you don't mind me saying Raggie you really seem to have it in for our beloved Keith ;D - you must have a reason ?

It's a forum, all opinions welcome for all supporters, from happy clappers to realists who are sick of the bizzare tactical decisions & utter dross which has been regularly served up under KC.

Find it extremely tiresome, the way you constantly dig people out or continually make snide comments, if it's not an opinion you agree with.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on February 05, 2021, 22:11:08 pm
It's a forum, all opinions welcome for all supporters, from happy clappers to realists who are sick of the bizzare tactical decisions & utter dross which has been regularly served up under KC.

Find it extremely tiresome, the way you constantly dig people out or continually make snide comments, if it's not an opinion you agree with.

A snide comment of your own there, if you don't mind me saying?

From my own point of view, I'm not impressed by the football we are playing but I want KC to succeed because he's the current Cobblers manager.
This means I'm not a hard core Curle Out(er) or a devout Happy Clapper.
The supposedly superbly run Swindon Town are "on the brink" whilst "rotten to core" NTFC are said to be financially secure. At present I will be happy if we survive in League 1 by any means, do I hope for better in the future? Yes, of course!

I like to think I am a "realist".


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 06, 2021, 23:58:56 pm
I see Harry came off the bench and nearly scored a dramatic last minute equaliser against Celtic - cleared off the line.
Maybe we need to get him back for this big week weíve got coming up ??!!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 07, 2021, 10:16:26 am
I see Harry came off the bench and nearly scored a dramatic last minute equaliser against Celtic - cleared off the line.
Maybe we need to get him back for this big week weíve got coming up ??!!
All would have been forgiven in my eyes if heíd have scored.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 07, 2021, 12:22:27 pm
All would have been forgiven in my eyes if heíd have scored.
Rangers as well Manny?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on February 07, 2021, 12:59:24 pm
A snide comment of your own there, if you don't mind me saying?

From my own point of view, I'm not impressed by the football we are playing but I want KC to succeed because he's the current Cobblers manager.
This means I'm not a hard core Curle Out(er) or a devout Happy Clapper.
The supposedly superbly run Swindon Town are "on the brink" whilst "rotten to core" NTFC are said to be financially secure. At present I will be happy if we survive in League 1 by any means, do I hope for better in the future? Yes, of course!

I like to think I am a "realist".
Very well put EB. Spot on post.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 07, 2021, 13:04:49 pm
A snide comment of your own there, if you don't mind me saying?

From my own point of view, I'm not impressed by the football we are playing but I want KC to succeed because he's the current Cobblers manager.
This means I'm not a hard core Curle Out(er) or a devout Happy Clapper.
The supposedly superbly run Swindon Town are "on the brink" whilst "rotten to core" NTFC are said to be financially secure. At present I will be happy if we survive in League 1 by any means, do I hope for better in the future? Yes, of course!

I like to think I am a "realist".

Probably similar to what the majority on this board would write if they didn't think that the minority would attack/criticise it... ;)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 07, 2021, 13:54:14 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 07, 2021, 15:06:38 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 07, 2021, 15:21:26 pm
All would have been forgiven in my eyes if heíd have scored.

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 14, 2021, 00:55:57 am
You don't really see natural goal scorers lying around on the scrap heap, but surely theres an out of contract goalkeeper you can bring in. Bunn, Nicholls, Adam Smith... an in form keeper makes such a massive difference to a team, with a relatively low price.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 14, 2021, 10:26:25 am
You don't really see natural goal scorers lying around on the scrap heap, but surely theres an out of contract goalkeeper you can bring in. Bunn, Nicholls, Adam Smith... an in form keeper makes such a massive difference to a team, with a relatively low price.
Totally agree, the two we have are bang average L2 keepers, there must be a decent out of contract keeper out there.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 14, 2021, 10:38:37 am
I think Alisson proves as well, and Hart in the latter end of the career, as it doesn't even matter if you're a good keeper, if you're in poor form and making bad mistakes then you're going to scupper anything your team is able to do.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 14, 2021, 10:46:37 am
I think Alisson proves as well, and Hart in the latter end of the career, as it doesn't even matter if you're a good keeper, if you're in poor form and making bad mistakes then you're going to scupper anything your team is able to do.
Yep, the most important individual position on the pitch.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 14, 2021, 11:05:12 am
Yep, the most important individual position on the pitch.

Chaps, I think weíre missing Jumbo sitting in the corner ...
The best goalie in the world doesnít fix one goal in 7 games!

Mitchell and Arnold are good enough to keep us up. That was one huge error on Saturday but he will have learnt from it. I think both of our keepers are a step up from Dai C last year. They havenít had the benefit of 3 reliable centre backs this season!


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 14, 2021, 11:09:08 am
Currently there should only be 3 recruitment priorities ...
1) A striker
2) Proven record of scoring goal
3) Not a loanee


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 14, 2021, 11:13:11 am
You don't really find many of those sitting around out of contract though. Liverpool had Salah up front, and they still bottle it against Leicester and City because their keeper made some poor mistakes. I don't think this is the only game Mitchell and Arnold have lost us points, and certainly when Mark Bunn was in goal for us he was earning points by himself. I think getting an upgrade on the keeper is going to be a cheaper and easier fix then working out how you score goals with this team.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on February 14, 2021, 12:28:55 pm
You don't really find many of those sitting around out of contract though. Liverpool had Salah up front, and they still bottle it against Leicester and City because their keeper made some poor mistakes. I don't think this is the only game Mitchell and Arnold have lost us points, and certainly when Mark Bunn was in goal for us he was earning points by himself. I think getting an upgrade on the keeper is going to be a cheaper and easier fix then working out how you score goals with this team.

After yesterdayís mix up you seem right!  Due to iFollow camera angle I originally thought it was unintentional but most of their players appealed for a back pass! More to the point was the defending on the line which has not attracted too much comment.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 11:40:12 am
Decently long list of free agent strikers avaliable although it sure how up to date this is...

"Free agents | Transfermarkt" https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=14&land_id=189&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show

Even someone like Cody mcdonald at 36 would be an upgrade on what we have. Also junior morias I hadn't noticed had gone on loan to Boreham wood, he would improve what we have.

To keep us up there needs to be a couple of player incomings imp, so the manager situation needs sorting now one way or other so that can happen.



Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 12:39:53 pm
Holmes has joined Southend. Just when we started using a formation to suit him...


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 18, 2021, 12:43:01 pm

Even someone like Cody mcdonald at 36 would be an upgrade on what we have.


Cannot agree with that.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on February 18, 2021, 12:50:42 pm


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 18, 2021, 12:54:09 pm
Would not want Morias back, he did not do well after he left us in the Scottish league and now finds himself back where he started in the lower leagues.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 18, 2021, 14:00:54 pm
Decently long list of free agent strikers available although it sure how up to date this is...

I cant see anyone realistic on that list under 33 with any sort of pedigree.

Unpopular opinion but I think the last thing we need is more strikers. KC banked on Smith and it didn't work, every other forward has been chopped and changed.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 14:13:14 pm
Cannot agree with that.

Okay maybe not Cody mac, but let's be honest I wouldn't take much to better what we have.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on February 18, 2021, 14:16:12 pm
Decently long list of free agent strikers avaliable although it sure how up to date this is...

"Free agents | Transfermarkt" https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=14&land_id=189&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show


I have never heard of a lot of them. And quite a high percentage have not had a club for two or three years. Not really what we need at the moment?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 14:32:16 pm
Don't think either Brady or a new manager will be bringing anyone else in tbh...

Also, it will take them weeks to get match fit (then probably get injured in their first match anyway!) so what's the point?

I'd certainly rather the management try to get a tune out of our current strikers, than someone like Cody McDonald!

Perhaps it's time for the likes of Chuks & BAS to stand up (literally in the case of BAS!  ;D) and come to the fore

Shame Pollock is still not fit as he'd really suit the new style Brady is trying to implement.

We'll obviously be a lot stronger if/when Sheehan & Miller return too


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 18, 2021, 14:37:55 pm
I would definitely give Miller a go up front with Rose.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on February 18, 2021, 14:58:47 pm
I would definitely give Miller a go up front with Rose.

injured


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 18, 2021, 15:10:32 pm
He will be back for the 27th according to JB?


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 15:26:27 pm
I see Harry came off the bench and nearly scored a dramatic last minute equaliser against Celtic - cleared off the line.
Maybe we need to get him back for this big week weíve got coming up ??!!
No, please no. We already have much better players who NEARLY scored.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 15:28:04 pm
Probably similar to what the majority on this board would write if they didn't think that the minority would attack/criticise it... ;)
Anyone in particular?  ::) ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on February 18, 2021, 15:29:52 pm
Don't think either Brady or a new manager will be bringing anyone else in tbh...

Also, it will take them weeks to get match fit (then probably get injured in their first match anyway!) so what's the point?

I'd certainly rather the management try to get a tune out of our current strikers, than someone like Cody McDonald!

Perhaps it's time for the likes of Chuks & BAS to stand up (literally in the case of BAS!  ;D) and come to the fore

Shame Pollock is still not fit as he'd really suit the new style Brady is trying to implement.

We'll obviously be a lot stronger if/when Sheehan & Miller return too

I may be in the minority, but I think that when set up right there are goals in this team. We showed signs the other night, and once we manage to hit the back of the net I think it will take the pressure off and players will find their scoring boots. The main reason we have looked so awful up front is because of how Curle set the team up, and I remain optimistic that things will change. This weekend could prove significant as a guide to our immediate future.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on February 18, 2021, 15:32:42 pm
After yesterdayís mix up you seem right!  Due to iFollow camera angle I originally thought it was unintentional but most of their players appealed for a back pass! More to the point was the defending on the line which has not attracted too much comment.
I agree, holding back nearer the goal line might have worked better as soon as they saw that the strike was low on the ground.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 18, 2021, 16:00:34 pm
I may be in the minority, but I think that when set up right there are goals in this team. We showed signs the other night, and once we manage to hit the back of the net I think it will take the pressure off and players will find their scoring boots. The main reason we have looked so awful up front is because of how Curle set the team up, and I remain optimistic that things will change. This weekend could prove significant as a guide to our immediate future.

I really donít see it, I said at the start of the season that I donít see goals is this squad and sadly I was right. I do think we can improve a lot from where we are now but with the current squad goals are always going to be an issue.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: greek73 on February 18, 2021, 16:05:09 pm
I have never heard of a lot of them. And quite a high percentage have not had a club for two or three years. Not really what we need at the moment?

You have never heard of Daniel Sturridge ????


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 18, 2021, 17:02:49 pm
You have never heard of Daniel Sturridge ????

He said a lot of them, and if you think Daniel Sturridge is even worth discussing then I will have some of what you have been smoking  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 18, 2021, 20:15:19 pm
Miller has never scored in the efl. 49 goals in 146 appearances for Carshalton and 8 goals in 58 appearances for Hamilton Accies.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 18, 2021, 20:38:45 pm
Miller has never scored in the efl. 49 goals in 146 appearances for Carshalton and 8 goals in 58 appearances for Hamilton Accies.
He should fit in well then  :P


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 18, 2021, 20:43:31 pm
Miller has never scored in the efl. 49 goals in 146 appearances for Carshalton and 8 goals in 58 appearances for Hamilton Accies.

Sounds a lot like you are writing him off before you've seen him play a full game?  ::)


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on February 18, 2021, 20:58:12 pm
Not writing him off, just stating a fact. I think he is a good signing and will do well for us, his brief appearance at Lincoln was encouraging.
As Brady says being a left sided player he will bring balance to the attack, now I wonder who he might replace?.


Title: Re: New Year 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on February 18, 2021, 21:05:41 pm
Not writing him off, just stating a fact. I think he is a good signing and will do well for us, his brief appearance at Lincoln was encouraging.
As Brady says being a left sided player he will bring balance to the attack, now I wonder who he might replace?.

Hoskins needs to be dropped for the next game in my opinion. He looked half-hearted against Ipswich and gave the ball away too often. I think part of it is him being in the team for so long, subconsciously he might have become a little complacent.

And that's not even considering the technical ability of Miller vs Hoskins, where I'd argue the former is stronger.