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Title: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 12, 2020, 22:30:45 pm
Next game is another trip to the fair city of Oxford, this time we face United, managed of course by the lovable Karl Robinson.

They are in a poor run of form, no wins (in normal time) in 6 games in all competitions, though they did record a penalty shootout victory over Forest Green in the PJ Trophy. Last time out they went to Blackpool and gained a point in a 0-0 draw, their third league draw on the bounce. Only two home league wins so far, against MK Dons and Rochdale, whilst they have tasted defeat at home against Sunderland, Crewe and Swindon.

Matty Taylor leads the scoring charts with five league goals, fellow forward James Henry weighs in with three. Oxford sit one place and two points below us with a game in hand.

34 previous games between the two teams, we hold the upper hand with 16 wins to 14 with only 4 draws from those 34 games. We have won our last 4 games at the Kassam, 6 wins and one draw overall in the 12 games since they moved from the Manor Ground.

Declan Bourne is scheduled to be the referee for the game, another first year EFL ref, he's taken charge of 13 games this season and has handed out 44 yellow and one red card, booking at least two players in every game he has refereed. Needless to say its our first encounter with him.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: the grumpy old man on December 12, 2020, 22:35:26 pm
We're going to be struggling for a team in this match, or a defence at any rate. It's time for the forwards to take control.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 12, 2020, 22:42:15 pm
Sheehan and Racic both out injured along with Mills? Bolger and Martin are both suspended as is McWilliams. That leaves Harriman, Horsfall and Dyche, with Flanagan making the bench?



Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on December 12, 2020, 22:52:19 pm
Is Racic actually injured? None of the reporters actually bother to ask as per usual!  ::)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 12, 2020, 23:11:03 pm
Is Racic actually injured? None of the reporters actually bother to ask as per usual!  ::)

It was mentioned today on one of the FB threads, first Iíd heard to be honest. Last league game Curle went in with no defenders on the bench, today he goes with Dyche. I donít know what that says about what Curle thinks about Racic if he isnít injured!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 13, 2020, 00:05:21 am
He could always give Super Sammy a go at CB again??


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 13, 2020, 09:42:58 am
He could always give Super Sammy a go at CB again??
Or Smith and play Chuks at 9.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: west stand oap on December 13, 2020, 13:06:04 pm
Sheehan will probably be fit as Radio N'ton said he was close to being available yesterday.
The appointed referee is maybe a good omen as in his 13 games this season only 2 have resulted in home wins with 8 away wins, let's hope he is not swayed by fans returning to the kassam.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: west stand oap on December 14, 2020, 12:53:17 pm
I'm not sure that I would say Oxford are "in a poor run of form" as they have only lost 1 of their last 6 league games ( at home against Swindon), they won at Wigan and have 4 draws, Away to Portsmouth and Blackpool and at home to Ipswich and Hull. I think we would be happy with a point from those fixtures.
Oxford's form to date is very similar to ours, having played a game less they are 2 points behind us. Both teams have failed to score in 8 games and both only have 2 clean sheets. Both teams have only managed to score 2 goals or more in a game 4 times but we have conceded 2 or more 10 games and Oxford 9. In recent games they appear to have tightened up at the back at the expense of scoring at the other end.
Our record away to Oxford is rather strange as we lost all of the first 7 games but have won the last 4, overall we have 6 wins, Oxford 11 wins and only 1 draw.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 14, 2020, 13:12:32 pm
4-0


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: west stand oap on December 14, 2020, 13:46:42 pm
Is that a Smith hatrick with the final goal from sub Chucks?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 14, 2020, 14:54:37 pm
Is that a Smith hatrick with the final goal from sub Chucks?
Sorry but itís at Oxford...
As for scorers anyone who has a shot on target Iíd guess given that we wonít have a defence.

Who knows we might actually attack as we canít play a defensive game with no defence
If so

4-1
Korboa


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: SadOldGit on December 14, 2020, 17:06:49 pm
I would imagine the defence will be fine with none of our defenders available for selection.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 14, 2020, 21:18:21 pm
2-0 Poxford.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 15, 2020, 18:11:35 pm
Both teams wearing the 'Justice for Harry' ribbons tonight.
Given the location of Croughton AFB as well, nice touch from Oxford United and the Cobblers!



Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 18:13:46 pm
I would imagine the defence will be fine with none of our defenders available for selection.
Brilliant  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 15, 2020, 18:55:52 pm
Good  luck to Max Dyche.

Team:

Arnold; Harriman, Horsfall, Dyche; Hoskins, Sowerby, Watson, Lines; Holmes, Smith, Rose.

Subs: Mitchell, Adams, Korboa, Ashley-Seal, Missilou, Chukwuemeka, Marshall.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 18:57:23 pm
Going 3-0 Poxford.
I think we'll get a player sent off.
Going for 24% possession today.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 15, 2020, 19:02:59 pm
So is that Sammy at left back, do we think??


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 19:16:14 pm
I think this is the game in which we may get up to 27% possession.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 19:19:07 pm
So no Sheehan despite him being close on Saturday, and no Racic....wheres he gone?

We've got three at the back, one a rookie 17 year old making his first start. No defensive cover on the bench, in fact the bench is full of attacking players....so surely the message today has got to be "we need to score one more than them".......doesn't matter if we let in 7, as long as we score 8!

Attack is the best form of defence......lets see what happens!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 15, 2020, 19:22:37 pm
So no Sheehan despite him being close on Saturday, and no Racic....wheres he gone?

We've got three at the back, one a rookie 17 year old making his first start. No defensive cover on the bench, in fact the bench is full of attacking players....so surely the message today has got to be "we need to score one more than them".......doesn't matter if we let in 7, as long as we score 8!

Attack is the best form of defence......lets see what happens!

Apparently a diamond.

Arnold

Hoskins, Dyche, Horsfall, Harriman

Lines

Sowerby, Watson

Holmes

Rose, Smith


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 19:28:09 pm
So no Sheehan despite him being close on Saturday, and no Racic....wheres he gone?

We've got three at the back, one a rookie 17 year old making his first start. No defensive cover on the bench, in fact the bench is full of attacking players....so surely the message today has got to be "we need to score one more than them".......doesn't matter if we let in 7, as long as we score 8!

Attack is the best form of defence......lets see what happens!
I really hope that you are correct. But I just cant see it.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 19:45:37 pm
Weíre holding them so far


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 15, 2020, 19:49:06 pm
Is McWilliams still suspended?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 15, 2020, 19:51:50 pm
Is McWilliams still suspended?

Yes, his 2nd game of 3.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 19:54:57 pm
75% possession. We look like Man City..


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 19:58:34 pm
No Baldy again..partimer


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:03:26 pm
75% possession. We look like Man City..
Give it a few mins  ;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:07:37 pm
Down to 40%.
Oxford on top and Dyche looks good so far.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 20:09:28 pm
Down to 40%.
Oxford on top and Dyche looks good so far.
He's the greatest!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 20:11:58 pm
I dont know if I want to listen to this, or watch Star Trek into darkness on Film 4. Back in a bit.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:14:01 pm
I dont know if I want to listen to this, or watch Star Trek into darkness on Film 4. Back in a bit.
i switched over to Miss Marple 10 mins ago.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 20:14:59 pm
i switched over to Miss Marple 10 mins ago.
She's the greatest!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:16:40 pm
She's the greatest!!!
;D I knew it


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:18:10 pm
I dont know if I want to listen to this, or watch Star Trek into darkness on Film 4. Back in a bit.
Is there much difference?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:20:07 pm
Is there much difference?
at least theres some action in Star Trek.
We havent had a single shot yet.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 20:21:37 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:22:49 pm
Harriman is gash.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 20:23:15 pm
How are we doing? Backs to the wall?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 20:25:33 pm
I predict a shot in the second half


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:35:06 pm
0-0 HT
All set up for a Hoskmeister 96th winner


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:35:47 pm
Toggle thinks weíve been good  ;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 15, 2020, 20:36:10 pm
I predict a shot in the second half

I donít!

Iím crossing my fingers for a corner at best.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 20:36:54 pm
0-0 HT
All set up for a Hoskmeister 96th winner
Can't score direct from a throw in.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 15, 2020, 20:37:50 pm
Toggle thinks weíve been good  ;D

Iíve got the Oxford commentary on, much better than the dross served up by our Tim.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: SadOldGit on December 15, 2020, 20:38:35 pm
Knobbers v Scuzzers I notice tonight.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 15, 2020, 20:38:50 pm
We started quite brightly but have slowly reverted to type and are sitting back inviting pressure again. The makeshift defence are looking reasonably solid so far, but if we keep sitting back as we are we're going to be seriously under the cosh in the second half.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 15, 2020, 20:38:59 pm
Can't score direct from a throw in.

One of Sams long throws that only just makes it into the box!?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 15, 2020, 20:39:45 pm
0-0 flatters both teams so far ;D ;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 20:46:00 pm
Star Trek is very good. I had not seen this one before. Full of excitement. Better than what I am hearing on the radio.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:48:54 pm
Yeah but Star Trek doesnít have super Sam.......


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 15, 2020, 20:50:11 pm
the worst football you will ever see . Week after week after week .
Praying  for a corner , begging for a rash challenge in sight of goal , soaking up the pressure ...
And then thereís a mistake and we concede .
it eats away at my sole and sucks the life from my bloodstream like year 2020 itís very self .
Just a glimmer of excitement , please ...... a slither of fun .... a crumb of skill .... i am on my knees begging , aching for something , something to give us hope in this forlorn world .


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:50:59 pm
Fcuk me Pete Walton talks utter utter bollox.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 20:54:32 pm
Sack 'em all


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:54:43 pm
Curle out!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:55:14 pm
Harriman again.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:55:42 pm
JUST FCUK OFF CURLE.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 20:56:48 pm
Come on cobblers try a shot....


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 20:56:52 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 20:57:17 pm
Yeah but Star Trek doesnít have super Sam.......
Die hard 4 on next. I cant listen to this any more. Bring on Bruce..


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 20:57:26 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:57:32 pm
Surely KT is watching this rubbish.
Hope hes not watching Miss Marple or Star Trek.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Mysterious Curle on December 15, 2020, 20:58:37 pm
Poor defending all round there.

Oh well another 2 goals and my bet comes in.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 15, 2020, 20:58:57 pm
you canít expect to continue offering this utter rubbish and win football matches . Curle has to go now .
anything is better than this tripe


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 20:59:06 pm
Still not a single shot on or off target.

55mins in


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 20:59:31 pm
Surely KT is watching this rubbish.
Hope hes not watching Miss Marple or Star Trek.
Apparently heís just had a £20k hot tub delivered?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Travelaway on December 15, 2020, 20:59:47 pm
Can't score direct from a throw in.


Just need a goalkeepers touch, see link..
Great goal..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKpk41Y24g


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 20:59:55 pm
Itís been as bad as Crewe, absolutely no attacking intent and now we are a goal down there really is no hope of getting anything from the game.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 21:01:15 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:01:37 pm
Rose clearly pi&&ed off. Not surprised with aimless balls being punted upfield.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 15, 2020, 21:02:04 pm
If we donít end up finishing bottom this season Iíd be shocked.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 21:02:13 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 21:02:44 pm
If we donít end up finishing bottom this season Iíd be shocked.
Wigan or us. They got pumped today


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:05:33 pm
Plagiarism!!!

Yeah yeah, I heard you the first time!!  ;)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 21:06:10 pm
Good to see chuks who doesnít want to sign for the club getting a run out up front....


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:07:06 pm
Just put it 10 yards over from ten yards out.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 21:08:26 pm
Sack 'em all!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 21:09:22 pm
2-0
Curles gotta go


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:09:41 pm
I have to say we really are sh1t.
Itís accompanied perfectly by the pair of halfwits waffling on about tea.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 21:09:57 pm
Sweet f***in Jesus!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:10:04 pm
Ffs.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Clarity on December 15, 2020, 21:10:20 pm
Oh dear


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:10:34 pm
AGIN JUST FCUK OFF CURLE.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:10:39 pm
2-0
Curles gotta go

We're a work in progress, everyone knows their roles, they are buying into the fabric of the club, its in their DNA......blah blah blah!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 15, 2020, 21:11:26 pm
God, we're shžt, aren't we?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Clarity on December 15, 2020, 21:11:50 pm
Weíve got our first corner ffs


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:11:57 pm
We're 20th in the table...... I am led to believe everyone would be happy with that.......no??


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: cobbler151 on December 15, 2020, 21:12:33 pm
Matty Taylor scoring  and us losing tonight was as sure thing as the sun coming up.

Curle is out his depth



Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 21:13:13 pm
Finally a shot after 61mins.
Possession dips to 35%. Thats pretty high  considering


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Baldy on December 15, 2020, 21:13:46 pm
I won't be available for selection on Saturday. I'm off to watch Wroxham against Stanway Rovers.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:14:29 pm
Finally a shot after 61mins.
Possession dips to 35%. Thats pretty high  considering
Give it time.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:15:18 pm
Think Oxford will go on to get a couple more, and theyíve been struggling for goals before tonight.

As for TO he is a a complete T!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:16:01 pm
That sums it up Super Sam foul throw.....professional footballer NEVER.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 21:16:19 pm
Die hard 4 is OK though. So far.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:17:11 pm
Die hard 4 is OK though. So far.
As good as the other three?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 21:17:16 pm
What do people actually expect
KC by his own admission had decent players lined up but we couldnít/wouldnít afford them.
Thatís not his fault.
Given a budget the recruitment team have proved they can find good players (Wharton etc) but yet again as with Marquis , Collins etc we will not spend in order to be competitive.
Give KC peanuts plus and you will get monkeys so to speak....

The writing was on the wall when Oliver left for that bottom four budget club Gillingham....

By all means knock KC but there is a bigger issue than his management.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 15, 2020, 21:17:38 pm
I could see Oxford getting 3 or 4 here because it looks like our heads have gone down.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: SadOldGit on December 15, 2020, 21:17:44 pm
Do you think KT will do the interviews over Zoom?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:18:44 pm
Do you think KT will do the interviews over Zoom?
Might just pull straws


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: bungle on December 15, 2020, 21:20:11 pm
You can sometimes compete against teams with better individuals if you have a clear tactical system.

Our problem at the moment is that you look at the teamsheet and you have no **** idea what the system is (I'm sure the players feel the same). I think the big loss for us at the moment is Mills: without him there appears to be no clear plan at wing-back and a lot of problems stem from that.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:21:44 pm
You can sometimes compete against teams with better individuals if you have a clear tactical system.

Our problem at the moment is that you look at the teamsheet and you have no **** idea what the system is (I'm sure the players feel the same). I think the big loss for us at the moment is Mills: without him there appears to be no clear plan at wing-back and a lot of problems stem from that.
Mills and not Curle?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 15, 2020, 21:21:59 pm
What do people actually expect
KC by his own admission had decent players lined up but we couldnít/wouldnít afford them.
Thatís not his fault.
Given a budget the recruitment team have proved they can find good players (Wharton etc) but yet again as with Marquis , Collins etc we will not spend in order to be competitive.
Give KC peanuts plus and you will get monkeys so to speak....

The writing was on the wall when Oliver left for that bottom four budget club Gillingham....

By all means knock KC but there is a bigger issue than his management.
Garbage there are at least 4 teams with smaller budgets, KC has no excuse not to stay up.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:22:54 pm
We've had 4 shots......none of them on target! I suppose 4 shots could be classed as "attacking intent"....?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 21:22:57 pm
Do you think KT will do the interviews over Zoom?
He wonít get rid.
No decent manager will want to work for him with his budget constraints.
Trust me if we sack KC we will only get someone equally desperate/ worse.

Stick with Keith and keep the housekeeping in order.
That has always been the priority over league one survival

Letís just enjoy our hour in the limelight and get back to where our finances (and ground) belong  :(


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:23:38 pm
Weíve not had a shot on target and you can see any confidence evaporating in front of our eyes


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:25:23 pm
Weíve not had a shot on target and you can see any confidence evaporating in front of our eyes
It's game over. Even TO has conceded


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 21:26:48 pm
As good as the other three?
Well, so far his shooting is more accurate than ours.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 21:28:20 pm
It's game over. Even TO has conceded
Iíd love to know four teams we can compete with financially in this division.
Iím sure the owners would love you to think we have a competitive budget but I bet we canít even compete with Rochdale and Accrington Stanley let alone the mighty Gillingham...


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:29:36 pm
How anyone can want Curle to continue is beyond me.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Another Pedj on December 15, 2020, 21:29:58 pm
Weíve not had a shot on target and you can see any confidence evaporating in front of our eyes

Shocking again. To ambition no hope.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 21:30:06 pm
It will be a sad day if KC leaves because of the unrealistic expectations of fans.
Let him manage in league two with a league two budget and we will be competitive.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:30:16 pm
You can sometimes compete against teams with better individuals if you have a clear tactical system.

Our problem at the moment is that you look at the teamsheet and you have no **** idea what the system is (I'm sure the players feel the same). I think the big loss for us at the moment is Mills: without him there appears to be no clear plan at wing-back and a lot of problems stem from that.
Super Sam.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dr Feelgood on December 15, 2020, 21:31:24 pm
Curle stays were doomed


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Clint on December 15, 2020, 21:33:37 pm
Utter garbage - again.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:34:01 pm
Ffs


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:34:11 pm
uno dos tres.....


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: SadOldGit on December 15, 2020, 21:34:17 pm
At least we've got the redevelopment to look forward to.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 15, 2020, 21:34:39 pm
Terrible defending by Dyche. Not good enough to start yet.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:36:42 pm
Terrible defending by Dyche. Not good enough to start yet.

We didn't have anyone else!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: sxcobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:36:46 pm
We can take positives

forget the loss / the lack of shots / 3 goals let in

we had 35 % possession !!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:37:06 pm
Not Dyche it was Harriman.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:37:25 pm
TO talks absolute drivel, Ď 7 minutes of stoppage time that gives the Cobblers a chanceí.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:37:47 pm
Fire up the Quattro!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:38:15 pm
Turning into a rout.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:38:36 pm
This has been coming for some while, Iím surprised we havenít lost numerous games by at least this score line. Doomed I think


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: sxcobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:39:03 pm
 Now is it worth travelling to see this cr@p on Saturday ???  

It's F>king Four now


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:39:51 pm
Turning into a rout.
Turning 😂


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 15, 2020, 21:39:58 pm
They've given up. **** spineless.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 15, 2020, 21:40:07 pm
We are not staying up, unless Curly changes his tactics. End of.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:40:21 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:40:35 pm
Now is it worth travelling to see this cr@p on Saturday ???  

It's F>king Four now

#prayingfortierthree


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:41:52 pm
Absolutely awful. Let's hope we have Sheehan back on Saturday. At least he'll give us some fight. Most of our players look disinterested. The 3rd and 4th goals were just giveaways.



Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: NTFC Nut on December 15, 2020, 21:41:59 pm
So glad I didn't part with a tenner tonight.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:42:57 pm
So glad I didnít renew my season ticket.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:43:32 pm
could you imagine the scenes right now if there had been 1500 of us there?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 15, 2020, 21:45:46 pm
Poor in the 1st half.
Completely clueless in the 2nd half.
Think that's all there is to say really.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 21:46:07 pm
could you imagine the scenes right now if there had been 1500 of us there?
I think the home game on Saturday could get interesting 🤨 when we are pumped by Lincoln


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:48:38 pm
Good summary EB. Big win for Lincoln on Saturday and I think KT will have to make a decision as it will be 4 defeats in succession and likely be firmly in bottom 4


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 15, 2020, 21:48:42 pm
Compare the 180 mins against Chelts and Exeter back in June against the 180 mins weíve just played against Crewe & Poxford ....
Its bloody unbelievable!
Same manager, similar sort of teams. New players to a man worse than the ones they replaced.
We canít blame injuries, we canít blame finances we canít blame Covid!
Weíve replaced good with average. Iím not willing to blame KC 100% for that.
Maybe Shoeys right - KT!!?? OMG how bad are things when you think Shoey maybe right about anything!!!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 15, 2020, 21:49:11 pm
Last 5 games we've averaged the same amount of shots on target as cards (it's 2).


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 15, 2020, 21:49:18 pm
Just wtf does Curle say at half time?  


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:49:43 pm
That was absolute tripe. Often in our recent history we have seen results like that whilst teetering on the brink of poor form and a hammering has become the tipping point? We are in real danger of imploding and Curle has to get a response to that performance? That was a a poor second half as you are likely to see, Fleetwood without the luck and players not giving full commitment and effort to the cause? The players have apparently adopted the philosophy of ďfcuk itĒ, and that always sets off the alarm bells in even the most ardent supporters of the management team.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: sxcobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:51:09 pm
I couldn't see the chances of changing the Manager up till now........but something has to be done ....Curley certainly isn't getting the best out of this lot / load of CR@P.

Awful recruitment decisions.......I would like to see the Budget he has had to play with.

But this lot will lose supporters in droves and it will take a lot to win the fans back.

Curley & KT are lucky the crowds haven't been allowed in ....how many matches would they have been boo-ed off.

37% possession tho' lol.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: BackOfTheNet on December 15, 2020, 21:55:20 pm
I'm pretty sanguine about things tonight. Earlier in the evening my little girl nearly choked on a sweet. We were banging on her back and nothing was shifting. She started going a funny colour so I swung her upside down and pounded on her back for dear life and it suddenly came out and she started crying. I'll take that as my win for the evening and it puts the outcome of a shžt football match into perspective.

Having said that, on another evening where I was in less of a philosophical mood, having watched that garbage I'd be jumping up and down and screaming obscenities at the telly.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: the grumpy old man on December 15, 2020, 21:56:22 pm
Sowerby injured tonight as well apparantly. Are we able to recall Warburton to at least bolster the numbers. I couldn't be bothered to watch tonight's game, sounds like a good decision.

Saturday should be fun.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: southofthecounty on December 15, 2020, 21:56:31 pm

37% possession tho' lol.
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12% of that was picking the ball out of the back of the net.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: CJ on December 15, 2020, 21:57:18 pm
I couldn't see the chances of changing the Manager up till now........but something has to be done ....Curley certainly isn't getting the best out of this lot / load of CR@P.

Awful recruitment decisions.......I would like to see the Budget he has had to play with.

But this lot will lose supporters in droves and it will take a lot to win the fans back.

Curley & KT are lucky the crowds haven't been allowed in ....how many matches would they have been boo-ed off.

37% possession tho' lol.
Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes..


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 15, 2020, 21:57:29 pm
I have in the main been backing KC to keep us up but I can't really defend him after that, surely he's embarrassed.

Have to agree with the 'moaners' that I would rather lose 4-0 to a Pompey side playing while playing half decent football than 4-0 to Oxford playing like that!!  


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 21:59:46 pm
Letís not forget it was dross for much of last season itís not just down to recruitment, we got lucky in 2 games. Curle is the common denominator there. I think budget will also play a part but you look at Wimbledon, Accrington etc and they manage to hold their own. Tactics have been poor and as I stated at the start of the season, his waiting game never paid off and now the confidence has gone too. Is that just results or has Curle now lost the players as well as a large percentage of the fan base.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: sxcobbler on December 15, 2020, 22:01:07 pm
Just look at the next 5 games ...can anyone see us getting more than 1 point ! and how many goals will ship ???

That should, on form, leave us rooted to the bottom and with 2 teams below us having a game in hand as well.

All so sad !

C'mon players don't give up ....have some pride and fight.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 22:01:37 pm
Aiming to be there Saturday, not looking forward to it at all.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 22:06:26 pm
Aiming to be there Saturday, not looking forward to it at all.
Hopefully we will be placed in tier three so you can be saved the experience.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Winslow Lee on December 15, 2020, 22:07:03 pm
we got lucky in 2 games.
Come on now! We smashed them in those matches, the scores only flattered the opposition.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 15, 2020, 22:07:55 pm
Letís not forget it was dross for much of last season itís not just down to recruitment, we got lucky in 2 games. Curle is the common denominator there. I think budget will also play a part but you look at Wimbledon, Accrington etc and they manage to hold their own. Tactics have been poor and as I stated at the start of the season, his waiting game never paid off and now the confidence has gone too. Is that just results or has Curle now lost the players as well as a large percentage of the fan base.

15 defeats in 25 League games since the Derby FA Cup replay defeat.....The two good games in the playoffs make you forget the one that was garbage.

For the first time this week the dissenting voices grew loud, loud enough to get the media asking questions. Curle fires off a riposte that we will play more on the front foot.....and then we get that tonight.

Where do we go now?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 15, 2020, 22:15:43 pm
A key difference has still been not replacing Morton, Wharton, Goode and Turnbull. Curle must realise that. Morton was a key factor in winning those play off games, he had pace and chased everything. Oliver will be close to out scoring our entire team this season if we carry on like this.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 22:25:18 pm
A key difference has still been not replacing Morton, Wharton, Goode and Turnbull. Curle must realise that. Morton was a key factor in winning those play off games, he had pace and chased everything. Oliver will be close to out scoring our entire team this season if we carry on like this.
Housekeeping


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 15, 2020, 22:58:25 pm
I have in the main been backing KC to keep us up but I can't really defend him after that, surely he's embarrassed.

Have to agree with the 'moaners' that I would rather lose 4-0 to a Pompey side playing while playing half decent football than 4-0 to Oxford playing like that!!  

 That was as bad that I have seen for a long long time even worse in that game at Bristol Rovers when Page lost the plot. The first half was pretty boring and so where Oxford. The second half was a display that lacked discipline, work rate, leadership - you name it. Perhaps the aspect of the loss was the team disintegration and apparent lack of effort by all players. Should Curle go after that display it's difficult to keep the faith with potential worse to follow. From experience, it does not seem to help the Club by ditching the Manager as quite a few of you will be clamouring for next managers head as results go awry. The thing is that in spite of our best efforts we are still not adrift or indeed even in the relegation zone .....yet. My own POV is we don't dispence of KC as it will be seen as knee jerk reaction after today defeat with a team  misssing at least 7/8 players. Furthermore we have no obvious successor to fill his place. On other thing I was disappointed to see how ineffective Holmes and Adams were; perhaps it was due to the shoddy performance of those around them. No kneejerk reactions and some fans need to hold their nerve and loyalty.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 15, 2020, 23:03:16 pm
That was as bad that I have seen for a long long time even worse in that game at Bristol Rovers when Page lost the plot. The first half was pretty boring and so where Oxford. The second half was a display that lacked discipline, work rate, leadership - you name it. Perhaps the aspect of the loss was the team disintegration and apparent lack of effort by all players. Should Curle go after that display it's difficult to keep the faith with potential worse to follow. From experience, it does not seem to help the Club by ditching the Manager as quite a few of you will be clamouring for next managers head as results go awry. The thing is that in spite of our best efforts we are still not adrift or indeed even in the relegation zone .....yet. My own POV is we don't dispence of KC as it will be seen as knee jerk reaction after today defeat with a team  misssing at least 7/8 players. Furthermore we have no obvious successor to fill his place. On other thing I was disappointed to see how ineffective Holmes and Adams were; perhaps it was due to the shoddy performance of those around them. No kneejerk reactions and some fans need to hold their nerve and loyalty.

I'll do my best but it's not easy after that shambles this evening.
I think a decision will have to be made before the transfer window opens.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 15, 2020, 23:04:07 pm
Compare the 180 mins against Chelts and Exeter back in June against the 180 mins weíve just played against Crewe & Poxford ....
Its bloody unbelievable!
Same manager, similar sort of teams. New players to a man worse than the ones they replaced.
We canít blame injuries, we canít blame finances we canít blame Covid!
Weíve replaced good with average. Iím not willing to blame KC 100% for that.
Maybe Shoeys right - KT!!?? OMG how bad are things when you think Shoey maybe right about anything!!!
;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 15, 2020, 23:14:06 pm
I'll do my best but it's not easy after that shambles this evening.
I think a decision will have to be made before the transfer window opens.
It certainly will

We will have to decide whether to not back KC to the levels required to run a sustainable league one club or whether not to back his replacement financially...
Itís a tricky one I agree......

Please donít knock me for the negativity just yet.
Please wait until the end of the jan window when we were
A) very close
B) got them in the building for talks
C) failed to secure our top targets

Get back to me then and we can discuss things  ;)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 15, 2020, 23:38:17 pm
It certainly will

We will have to decide whether to not back KC to the levels required to run a sustainable league one club or whether not to back his replacement financially...
Itís a tricky one I agree......

Please donít knock me for the negativity just yet.
Please wait until the end of the jan window when we were
A) very close
B) got them in the building for talks
C) failed to secure our top targets

Get back to me then and we can discuss things  ;)

OK, but I think A) B) and C) will all apply as always for all lower league clubs.
Let's just hope D) signed our next pick quality targets.  Has happened!
or E) new owners/investors have arrived ;)
Of course if KC has been replaced many of the targets will have changed


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Wakey Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 08:05:15 am
Some people like to accept mediocrity when that is the norm and they believe Curle is the right man for the job. Curle is a one dimensional manager without the necessary know how to get us out of this situation. Whilst he managed to get us promoted by bullying Cheltenham and Exeter, he has come up well short against teams who are able to play football. If last season had got to it's natural conclusion, we would have finished in the bottom 10. He said we would evolve our playing style but to me that is called progression and at the moment we are going from bad to worse, not evolving.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 16, 2020, 08:24:21 am
Some people like to accept mediocrity when that is the norm and they believe Curle is the right man for the job. Curle is a one dimensional manager without the necessary know how to get us out of this situation. Whilst he managed to get us promoted by bullying Cheltenham and Exeter, he has come up well short against teams who are able to play football. If last season had got to it's natural conclusion, we would have finished in the bottom 10. He said we would evolve our playing style but to me that is called progression and at the moment we are going from bad to worse, not evolving.
He has kept his word our style has definitely changed, itís gone from boring to terrible 😣


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Boot and shoe on December 16, 2020, 08:43:22 am
i wonder if the dressing room lock in resulted in a few players telling Curle where he is going wrong in life rather than the other way around .
Would like to know what Holmes and Adams say to the style of football we are playing .
Nice experience for Dyche as well . I am not sure we will be seeing him again too soon .


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 16, 2020, 09:04:36 am
He has kept his word our style has definitely changed, itís gone from boring to terrible 😣
;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2020, 09:04:49 am
i wonder if the dressing room lock in resulted in a few players telling Curle where he is going wrong in life rather than the other way around .
Would like to know what Holmes and Adams say to the style of football we are playing .
Nice experience for Dyche as well . I am not sure we will be seeing him again too soon .

Bolger will be back from suspension, Sheehan is "not too far away".....so that will be it for Dyche for a while anyway you'd think.....


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 16, 2020, 09:26:03 am
Bolger will be back from suspension, Sheehan is "not too far away".....so that will be it for Dyche for a while anyway you'd think.....
Harriman is an absolute liability in a back 4, he has been at fault for the last 2 or 3 goals we have conceded.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 09:27:30 am
Bolger will be back from suspension, Sheehan is "not too far away".....so that will be it for Dyche for a while anyway you'd think.....

Dyche didn't do too badly, but Sheehan and Bolger are both becoming key players for us, so I think you're right. These two and McWilliams will definitely make us stronger at the back, but we've got to find a way of creating more up front.

We need to have people in and around Ricky Holmes to help exploit his talent. Surely this means at least one out-and-out winger. Playing wing-backs against better teams than us doesn't work - they become defenders and can't get up the pitch because we never have possession for more than a few seconds. This leaves Smith and Holmes isolated and usually too far from each other to help each other out. No wonder we're not creating anything.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 16, 2020, 10:14:18 am
Exactly right Madrid, but itís not just against the better sides in this League, itís happening against the sides we should be able compete against. I fear the real pastings are yet to come!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 10:22:39 am
If Curle looks to completely change the style from now on and more importantly we keep pace with everyone who is 1 point above us (5 teams!) then I'm willing to stick with Curle...


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 10:58:05 am
If Curle  ......

He wonít, our best chance is that brings in two/three players better than we have got. This will enable his system to play better and slightly more watchable


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 11:05:42 am
Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes, Sheehan and Holmes..

No chance are you really serious?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2020, 11:52:56 am
Harriman is an absolute liability in a back 4, he has been at fault for the last 2 or 3 goals we have conceded.

Harriman has been terrible for the majority of the season. Not convinced he can handle this level at all and that is a shame as he was excellent last year.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: west stand oap on December 16, 2020, 12:58:55 pm
I have left it until now to comment but yes last night was bad. We have now failed to score in half of our 18 games but you cannot criticise the strikers when they are getting minimal sevice as we continue to create so few chances.
KC never uses the fact that so many players were unavailable due to suspensions or injury and always says it it an opportunity for others to stake a claim. We are able to defend as we showed against Fleetwood but last night we had only 1 of our regular centre backs available, a 17 year old we had throw in at the deep end and Hoskins pressed into service at full back. I was surprised we reached half time without conceding.
Among others last night we were without Bolger, Sheehan, Mills, McWilliams and Nuttall most of which would command a place in the starting 11.
I notice our regular moning minnies have been working overtime stating the manager should f off and aiming expletives at certain players. Some don't confine this to the management and players but aim the same offensive comments at the radio team, other board members and any individual mentioned by another board member. However, they rarely offer anything constructive and some are not even season ticket holders which shows a certain lack of allegiance to the club. If they are so upset why do they not form their own consortium and do something about it or travel a few miles to watch nice tippy tappy football at MK and they would not need to moan about the facilities.
We have a much changed squad from last season and we could not have stopped most of the players that left. Goode and Wharton wanted to play at a higher level, we could not get Morley back ( who some did not want when he signed), Oliver chose to go to Gillingham and Turnbull and Williams cannot get into the starting 11 of their respective division 2 teams.
Clearly with his budget limitations KC was not able to persuade certain players to join us and so we have what we have. KC has not had the luxury of the budget of some former managers who splashed the cash on the likes of van Veen and Crooks but that did not work out well.
If we changed manager he would still have the same players and probably little room to manouvre in the january transfer window. It is not easy moving players on who are in contract and most new managers want to change half of the team. It did not work when we sacked Page, Edingburgh or JFH so why expect anything different this time.
Calling for Holmes and Sheehan to take over is quite ridiculous and a certain poster seems to have inside knowledge of how much of his budget KC has spent, perhaps he can enlighten us to how he knows this. KC has stated he has acompetitive budget but he is unlikely to say otherwise.
Our bubble will be attending the Lincoln game SUPPORTING whoever is representing our club on the day as it is futile getting on the players backs. They are division 1 players are are prone to making mistakes as players do higher up the ladder. As we are creating so few chances we will not go expecting to be enthralled by the entertainment served up but providing those selected give 100% on the day we will leave happy whatever the result.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Saint Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 13:39:25 pm
No chance are you really serious?
Yes, we all know that anything so radical will not happen. But you said 'he won't' to the suggestion that we keep within one point of those above us so what's your suggestion? Presumably, that we get relegated and we all accept that forever more we can aspire to nothing better than a division 4 future (or worse).


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Saint Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 13:46:30 pm
I have left it until now to comment but yes last night was bad. We have now failed to score in half of our 18 games but you cannot criticise the strikers when they are getting minimal sevice as we continue to create so few chances.
KC never uses the fact that so many players were unavailable due to suspensions or injury and always says it it an opportunity for others to stake a claim. We are able to defend as we showed against Fleetwood but last night we had only 1 of our regular centre backs available, a 17 year old we had throw in at the deep end and Hoskins pressed into service at full back. I was surprised we reached half time without conceding.
Among others last night we were without Bolger, Sheehan, Mills, McWilliams and Nuttall most of which would command a place in the starting 11.
I notice our regular moning minnies have been working overtime stating the manager should f off and aiming expletives at certain players. Some don't confine this to the management and players but aim the same offensive comments at the radio team, other board members and any individual mentioned by another board member. However, they rarely offer anything constructive and some are not even season ticket holders which shows a certain lack of allegiance to the club. If they are so upset why do they not form their own consortium and do something about it or travel a few miles to watch nice tippy tappy football at MK and they would not need to moan about the facilities.
We have a much changed squad from last season and we could not have stopped most of the players that left. Goode and Wharton wanted to play at a higher level, we could not get Morley back ( who some did not want when he signed), Oliver chose to go to Gillingham and Turnbull and Williams cannot get into the starting 11 of their respective division 2 teams.
Clearly with his budget limitations KC was not able to persuade certain players to join us and so we have what we have. KC has not had the luxury of the budget of some former managers who splashed the cash on the likes of van Veen and Crooks but that did not work out well.
If we changed manager he would still have the same players and probably little room to manouvre in the january transfer window. It is not easy moving players on who are in contract and most new managers want to change half of the team. It did not work when we sacked Page, Edingburgh or JFH so why expect anything different this time.
Calling for Holmes and Sheehan to take over is quite ridiculous and a certain poster seems to have inside knowledge of how much of his budget KC has spent, perhaps he can enlighten us to how he knows this. KC has stated he has acompetitive budget but he is unlikely to say otherwise.
Our bubble will be attending the Lincoln game SUPPORTING whoever is representing our club on the day as it is futile getting on the players backs. They are division 1 players are are prone to making mistakes as players do higher up the ladder. As we are creating so few chances we will not go expecting to be enthralled by the entertainment served up but providing those selected give 100% on the day we will leave happy whatever the result.
I agree completely that board members, the radio team and the players should not be criticised so much, but should be supported, as for the most part we are all on the same side.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 14:47:31 pm
Yes, we all know that anything so radical will not happen. But you said 'he won't' to the suggestion that we keep within one point of those above us so what's your suggestion? Presumably, that we get relegated and we all accept that forever more we can aspire to nothing better than a division 4 future (or worse).

I believe/hope that if KC could recruit to the quality of Wharton, Morton and (even) Oliver we may do well enough to stay up and make the pattern of play more attractive to the Fancy Dans'? The 'won't was aimed at change of system nothing elso.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2020, 15:38:39 pm
I have left it until now to comment but yes last night was bad. We have now failed to score in half of our 18 games but you cannot criticise the strikers when they are getting minimal sevice as we continue to create so few chances.
KC never uses the fact that so many players were unavailable due to suspensions or injury and always says it it an opportunity for others to stake a claim. We are able to defend as we showed against Fleetwood but last night we had only 1 of our regular centre backs available, a 17 year old we had throw in at the deep end and Hoskins pressed into service at full back. I was surprised we reached half time without conceding.
Among others last night we were without Bolger, Sheehan, Mills, McWilliams and Nuttall most of which would command a place in the starting 11.
I notice our regular moning minnies have been working overtime stating the manager should f off and aiming expletives at certain players. Some don't confine this to the management and players but aim the same offensive comments at the radio team, other board members and any individual mentioned by another board member. However, they rarely offer anything constructive and some are not even season ticket holders which shows a certain lack of allegiance to the club. If they are so upset why do they not form their own consortium and do something about it or travel a few miles to watch nice tippy tappy football at MK and they would not need to moan about the facilities.
We have a much changed squad from last season and we could not have stopped most of the players that left. Goode and Wharton wanted to play at a higher level, we could not get Morley back ( who some did not want when he signed), Oliver chose to go to Gillingham and Turnbull and Williams cannot get into the starting 11 of their respective division 2 teams.
Clearly with his budget limitations KC was not able to persuade certain players to join us and so we have what we have. KC has not had the luxury of the budget of some former managers who splashed the cash on the likes of van Veen and Crooks but that did not work out well.
If we changed manager he would still have the same players and probably little room to manouvre in the january transfer window. It is not easy moving players on who are in contract and most new managers want to change half of the team. It did not work when we sacked Page, Edingburgh or JFH so why expect anything different this time.
Calling for Holmes and Sheehan to take over is quite ridiculous and a certain poster seems to have inside knowledge of how much of his budget KC has spent, perhaps he can enlighten us to how he knows this. KC has stated he has acompetitive budget but he is unlikely to say otherwise.
Our bubble will be attending the Lincoln game SUPPORTING whoever is representing our club on the day as it is futile getting on the players backs. They are division 1 players are are prone to making mistakes as players do higher up the ladder. As we are creating so few chances we will not go expecting to be enthralled by the entertainment served up but providing those selected give 100% on the day we will leave happy whatever the result.

The one issue as youíve alluded to with changing manager is that Kelvin gets to choose the next one and that is rightly a concern as his track record isnít good with us. Thereís no excuse for keeping a failing manager on though and Iím sure youíll agree with that too.

My bubble will also be there on Saturday ďSUPPORTING whoever is representing our club on the dayĒ. Doesnít make our views about the current situation any less relevant than yours. Iím hoping that the right action is taken before Saturday and Keith is relieved of his duties as thatíll make it a much happier atmosphere for all at the game.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 16, 2020, 15:54:14 pm
Even Radio Oxford expressed sympathy for both Smith (trying upfront with no service) and Holmes.
Were competing well and taking the game to them for much of the first half...then Curle gets involved at half time!  ::)

Have the Cobblers had an even remotely competitive second half this season? Genuine question!

As for it being too late to change manager and a complete personnel change...just take a look at what Cotteril is doing at Shrewsbury. No change of personnel!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Carton Lid on December 16, 2020, 15:57:34 pm
Even Radio Oxford expressed sympathy for both Smith (trying upfront with no service) and Holmes.
Were competing well and taking the game to them for much of the first half...then Curle gets involved at half time!  ::)

Have the Cobblers had an even remotely competitive second half this season? Genuine question!
Plus, have we EVER looked better after a KC substitution ?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on December 16, 2020, 16:06:32 pm
I think we will lose the next 4/5 games and at that point KT will need to make a decision. I think Curle has already lost the Dressing Room and a significant proportion of the fans.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2020, 16:17:00 pm
I think we will lose the next 4/5 games and at that point KT will need to make a decision. I think Curle has already lost the Dressing Room and a significant proportion of the fans.

Another 4/5 games?? Ouch!

It does seem like something is going on behind the scenes, some of the stuff in the media from senior plays does not paint a happy picture, and Curles interviews and articles since last night seem completely at odds with his "DNA, Fabric, Fundamentals" stuff.
He claims to have only brought in players who were a good fit for us and the identity he is (still) trying to create. He claims that he meets them all once or twice before signing them to make sure they are right, yet now he is questioning their "fight and character", saying that we don't have enough leaders, well i'm sorry Keith, because after spending so many months telling us what you are trying to achieve, its now patently obvious you have failed to deliver what you are trying to deliver.

Statements like " I like playing front-foot football and I like getting after teams" are not backed up by what is being produced on the pitch. Yes we may have had a reduced budget, yes we may have replaced quality players with lesser quality , but there is still enough quality in there to do things differently.

If he gets another 4/5 games then we are part way into January, part way into the transfer window, by the time a new managers comes in its too late to assess the squad and make changes where needed.

For me its got to be done now, or after a bad result on Saturday.....the same weekend when Boothroyd was sacked in 2013.... in order to give the new man a fighting chance of changing things around.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: SadOldGit on December 16, 2020, 16:33:13 pm
I have left it until now to comment but yes last night was bad. We have now failed to score in half of our 18 games but you cannot criticise the strikers when they are getting minimal sevice as we continue to create so few chances.
KC never uses the fact that so many players were unavailable due to suspensions or injury and always says it it an opportunity for others to stake a claim. We are able to defend as we showed against Fleetwood but last night we had only 1 of our regular centre backs available, a 17 year old we had throw in at the deep end and Hoskins pressed into service at full back. I was surprised we reached half time without conceding.
Among others last night we were without Bolger, Sheehan, Mills, McWilliams and Nuttall most of which would command a place in the starting 11.
I notice our regular moning minnies have been working overtime stating the manager should f off and aiming expletives at certain players. Some don't confine this to the management and players but aim the same offensive comments at the radio team, other board members and any individual mentioned by another board member. However, they rarely offer anything constructive and some are not even season ticket holders which shows a certain lack of allegiance to the club. If they are so upset why do they not form their own consortium and do something about it or travel a few miles to watch nice tippy tappy football at MK and they would not need to moan about the facilities.
We have a much changed squad from last season and we could not have stopped most of the players that left. Goode and Wharton wanted to play at a higher level, we could not get Morley back ( who some did not want when he signed), Oliver chose to go to Gillingham and Turnbull and Williams cannot get into the starting 11 of their respective division 2 teams.
Clearly with his budget limitations KC was not able to persuade certain players to join us and so we have what we have. KC has not had the luxury of the budget of some former managers who splashed the cash on the likes of van Veen and Crooks but that did not work out well.
If we changed manager he would still have the same players and probably little room to manouvre in the january transfer window. It is not easy moving players on who are in contract and most new managers want to change half of the team. It did not work when we sacked Page, Edingburgh or JFH so why expect anything different this time.
Calling for Holmes and Sheehan to take over is quite ridiculous and a certain poster seems to have inside knowledge of how much of his budget KC has spent, perhaps he can enlighten us to how he knows this. KC has stated he has acompetitive budget but he is unlikely to say otherwise.
Our bubble will be attending the Lincoln game SUPPORTING whoever is representing our club on the day as it is futile getting on the players backs. They are division 1 players are are prone to making mistakes as players do higher up the ladder. As we are creating so few chances we will not go expecting to be enthralled by the entertainment served up but providing those selected give 100% on the day we will leave happy whatever the result.

Here we go, so now you have to be a season ticket holder, no longer content with just having to attend games as everblite would have it. Neither you nor I know what his playing budget was, only that he was happy to bleat on about how he could save money within it. As for your statement that those who are despondent should switch their allegiance to the w*nkers in MK obviously has no idea about what a football supporter even is. The football we are having to endure is absolute crap, surely you see that, and those players are clearly not giving 100% so where does that leave us?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 16, 2020, 16:33:33 pm
GPC - Yes Boothroyd was sacked but Chris Wilder wasn't appointed until the end of January. A week before transfer deadline if I remember rightly. A few rushed signings followed but not a lot of time to get the players in he probably wanted.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2020, 16:48:25 pm
GPC - Yes Boothroyd was sacked but Chris Wilder wasn't appointed until the end of January. A week before transfer deadline if I remember rightly. A few rushed signings followed but not a lot of time to get the players in he probably wanted.

Which people seem to forget when they say he struggled initially and plenty of people were questioning his appointment and ability! It was only when heíd had a full window the following summer that he was able to make his mark.
We donít need to be in that boat again! Replace now, appoint soon, full window!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 16, 2020, 17:06:08 pm
Which people seem to forget when they say he struggled initially and plenty of people were questioning his appointment and ability! It was only when heíd had a full window the following summer that he was able to make his mark.
We donít need to be in that boat again! Replace now, appoint soon, full window!

Are there any decent ones out there, or the normal ones that go round and round and round again?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on December 16, 2020, 17:06:53 pm
Which people seem to forget when they say he struggled initially and plenty of people were questioning his appointment and ability! It was only when heíd had a full window the following summer that he was able to make his mark.
We donít need to be in that boat again! Replace now, appoint soon, full window!

I think it is you who has forgotten, It was actually the winter after his first full transfer window, that people (the same people wanting Curle gone now) want him gone.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2020, 17:16:18 pm
I think it is you who has forgotten, It was actually the winter after his first full transfer window, that people (the same people wanting Curle gone now) want him gone.

Memory nudged...thankyou!! I stand corrected

W8 D7 L5 for the remainder of 2014 season
W7 D3 L4 up to the start of October 2014
W2 D2 L12 up to the beginning of January 2015....the sticky patch!
W8 D1 L1 from January 10th until March 3rd
W3 D2 L7 from then until the end of the season

We were very up and down weren't we?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: andy scouse on December 16, 2020, 17:41:41 pm
There are worrying signs KC has lost the dressing room and in the past this has prompted KT to give the incumbent manger the chop .Things look bleak for KC at the moment but in the past after abysmal away performances KC has come up trumps e.g. last season after heavy defeats at Crawley and Sc***horpe. Unless he reproduces this type of turn around quickly then it looks likely he will get the push in early January.One can argue we are not so much in Curles hands at the moment but how the fancy takes KT and his track record in appointing mangers during his reign as Cobblers chairman does not stand up very well so what confidence should Cobblers supporters have in KTs decision making.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 16, 2020, 17:53:38 pm


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 18:05:53 pm
Which people seem to forget when they say he struggled initially and plenty of people were questioning his appointment and ability! It was only when heíd had a full window the following summer that he was able to make his mark.
We donít need to be in that boat again! Replace now, appoint soon, full window!

Not sure if you have noted the comments of others on this subject but some prominent posters (not me of course] on here don't agree with you Is this a set back/disappointment for you?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 16, 2020, 18:12:55 pm
Not sure if you have noted the comments of others on this subject but some prominent posters (not me of course] on here don't agree with you Is this a set back/disappointment for you?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

Yet another informative and insightful post by you.......

Gutter snipe.....you never fail to disappoint on that score......give it up old man


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 18:26:14 pm
Yet another informative and insightful post by you.......

Gutter snipe.....you never fail to disappoint on that score......give it up old man


 :o


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 16, 2020, 18:51:44 pm
As an aside, but Oxford related, seems Opus Energy have gone down the chute... empty building for past few months near me at its base in Summertown - virtually nextdoor to Bower & Bailey's Solicitors.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 16, 2020, 19:35:16 pm
As an aside, but Oxford related, seems Opus Energy have gone down the chute... empty building for past few months near me at its base in Summertown - virtually nextdoor to Bower & Bailey's Solicitors.
As an aside, I see that the  Romany, and the King Billy have shut their doors for good.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 16, 2020, 19:37:25 pm
And they wont be the last.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: west stand oap on December 16, 2020, 20:08:40 pm
SOG - I was not saying that you have to be a season ticket holder to be considered as a supporter but pointing out that some of those who are most vociferous with their negative comments are not sth's.
Of course we do not know KC's budget, nor should we expect to, but I would imagine it would rank in the lower third of the division. There is a poster who professes to know and also claims to know how much of it has been spent so perhaps he could enlighten us.
If all some posters can do is condemn everything within the club and never offer any positive comments I suggested they may be happier travelling to MK. I think most on here recognise the guilty parties and now pay little heed to there comments as they are regurgitated over and over again. If we were to field a side from the players who have not been slated on here we probably would not be able to field a 5 a side team.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 16, 2020, 20:27:42 pm
Bump

Suffice to say I had £0 on.

Didn't back yourself with hard cash then?
Just like you won't back up your opinions by asking the one man who has the answers, KT?

Remember, you have to speculate to accumulate  :) :)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 20:43:18 pm
As an aside, I see that the  Romany, and the King Billy have shut their doors for good.

Romany shut some ago - it was quite popular in its time!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 16, 2020, 20:56:33 pm
Didn't back yourself with hard cash then?
Just like you won't back up your opinions by asking the one man who has the answers, KT?

Remember, you have to speculate to accumulate  :) :)
Itís not up to any fan to have to constantly ask questions for the last four years
Itís like Groundhog Day
We had all this having to ask questions with DC

How about some update for the fans without them having to chase around for answers....

The main one that Iím waiting to hear is the explanation as to why when the council have allowed KT to start his redevelopment has there been zero progress.

Even the most ardent supporter must be starting to realise that the lack of work is a bit strange....

As an aside
Did the Peterborough fans have to question darragh mcanthony at posh every couple of months for years on end to get their new stand built or did he just get on with it , spend the money and get it built?

Did the saints fans have to question the owners over progress every couple of months to get their new stand built or did they just get on with it , spend the money and get it done?

Did Brentford fans have to question their owners every couple of months to get an entire stadium built from scratch or did they get on with it , spend the cash and get it done?

All of these were started long after our fabled redevelopment that has gone on approaching a decade under two chairman who still havenít started!!!

As I understand it am I right in saying the council have given permission for work to start months ago?

All Iím showing here is how others have got things done whilst we havenít started.

I assume itís ok to feel a little frustrated at the situation?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 16, 2020, 21:06:31 pm
Quote from: everbrite link=topic=1982es3.msg423333#msg423333 date=1608151398
Romany shut some ago - it was quite popular in its time!
The Billy was the best pub ever in the eighties. I have seen flame throwers. people bringing their pet ducks in, cross dressers, sow many bikes being parked outside, pushbikes outside, fantastic bands, And do you know what? I Felt safe. And enjoyed myself


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Shoemaker on December 16, 2020, 21:32:34 pm
I remember entering the billy some 25 years ago when myself and some friends were on a pub crawl.
We entered with some trepidation but again once inside you felt safe enough.
It wasnít particularly my scene but it felt like a badge of honour going in and coming out in one bit
To be fair everyone there was friendly.
It actually felt more dangerous in saddlers or the racehorse.

I went on a fair few pub crawls up the welly road and despite being well pissed never had any trouble but I wasnít looking for any and myself and my friends always had a good night out when up the welly road....

I did however once get thrown out of Glenvilles when it was easier to get thrown in there.
I was very tipsy and it was a early summers evening
The club had big blackout curtains and as I fell over I grabbed one to soften the fall but ended up pulling it down and as it was summer it lit the club up like someone had turned a light on.

I was soon out on my arse ;D

I remember one of the bouncers was a large black lady (I assume I can still say that)
She was a top lass but didnít take any **** !!!

Happy memories

What this has to do with the future of KC I donít know but it feels good to reminisce. ;D


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 16, 2020, 21:33:14 pm
Itís not up to any fan to have to constantly ask questions for the last four years
Itís like Groundhog Day
We had all this having to ask questions with DC

How about some update for the fans without them having to chase around for answers....

The main one that Iím waiting to hear is the explanation as to why when the council have allowed KT to start his redevelopment has there been zero progress.

Even the most ardent supporter must be starting to realise that the lack of work is a bit strange....

As an aside
Did the Peterborough fans have to question darragh mcanthony at posh every couple of months for years on end to get their new stand built or did he just get on with it , spend the money and get it built?

Did the saints fans have to question the owners over progress every couple of months to get their new stand built or did they just get on with it , spend the money and get it done?

Did Brentford fans have to question their owners every couple of months to get an entire stadium built from scratch or did they get on with it , spend the cash and get it done?

All of these were started long after our fabled redevelopment that has gone on approaching a decade under two chairman who still havenít started!!!

As I understand it am I right in saying the council have given permission for work to start months ago?

All Iím showing here is how others have got things done whilst we havenít started.

I assume itís ok to feel a little frustrated at the situation?

We all feel the frustration!

The fans of those other teams didn't have to ask questions because their new stands were built, ours isn't and hence the questions.

You ask all the right questions but ask the wrong people, none of us on here can give the answers you crave. The delays may be because of leases, planning permission, logistics, covid or simply lack of funds, I don't know, who does?

At least try asking KT or NBC. Post their answers ( or lack of them ) on here. Maybe you'll lead a crusade.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: EB Claret on December 16, 2020, 21:42:25 pm
I remember entering the billy some 25 years ago when myself and some friends were on a pub crawl.
We entered with some trepidation but again once inside you felt safe enough.
It wasnít particularly my scene but it felt like a badge of honour going in and coming out in one bit
To be fair everyone there was friendly.
It actually felt more dangerous in saddlers or the racehorse.

I went on a fair few pub crawls up the welly road and despite being well pissed never had any trouble but I wasnít looking for any and myself and my friends always had a good night out when up the welly road....

I did however once get thrown out of Glenvilles when it was easier to get thrown in there.
I was very tipsy and it was a early summers evening
The club had big blackout curtains and as I fell over I grabbed one to soften the fall but ended up pulling it down and as it was summer it lit the club up like someone had turned a light on.

I was soon out on my arse ;D

I remember one of the bouncers was a large black lady (I assume I can still say that)
She was a top lass but didnít take any **** !!!

Happy memories

What this has to do with the future of KC I donít know but it feels good to reminisce. ;D

We all need a lighter moment or two in these times of Covid pandemic and Cobblers polemic :-\


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 16, 2020, 21:53:54 pm
As an aside, I see that the  Romany, and the King Billy have shut their doors for good.
But neither of those sponsor the Cobblers or have any real connection...aside from the tenuous link of the King Billy being where Shrewsbury's EBF came under a sustained attack from the NAT!  ;)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 16, 2020, 21:58:09 pm
Romany shut some ago - it was quite popular in its time!
As an aside #2 The Romany only closed last year!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: JeanGenie on December 16, 2020, 23:20:29 pm
As an aside #2 The Romany only closed last year!

*This year...


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: everbrite on December 16, 2020, 23:51:05 pm
*This year...

Canít be correct - anyway who let you out the bottle  ;)

Ps Coolie never ever wrong ever!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 17, 2020, 00:28:35 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/business/northamptons-romany-pub-stands-empty-after-landlord-couple-lock-last-time-2906309

5 months ago.......


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 17, 2020, 10:45:51 am
But neither of those sponsor the Cobblers or have any real connection...aside from the tenuous link of the King Billy being where Shrewsbury's EBF came under a sustained attack from the NAT!  ;)
I was inside that night and the NAT never got past the door. Some big burly bikers saw to that. A few broken windows and that was it.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 11:55:35 am
As an aside #2 The Romany only closed last year!
Growing up around there in the early 80s you had 2 options before Syphilrella Cockyfellas opened on a Friday and Saturday night. That was The Romany or The Five Bells.Ē? Or for the connoisseur, both.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 11:58:26 am
Growing up around there in the early 80s you had 2 options before Syphilrella Cockyfellas opened on a Friday and Saturday night. That was The Romany or The Five Bells.Ē? Or for the connoisseur, both.
incidentally who remembers the almighty fracas in the Romany before the FA Cup game with Villa fans in 81?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 17, 2020, 12:43:41 pm
Does anybody know why there was a Rushden and Diamonds sign outside the Romany?
Surely they could find somewhere closer to home.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 12:58:07 pm
Does anyone remember when after Northampton hosted It's a Knockout in the 70's, one of the cowboy/western chuck wagons, used for one of the races, was on top of the entrance to the Romany?  It was there for quite a while if I remember rightly?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 17, 2020, 15:15:42 pm
Canít be correct - anyway who let you out the bottle  ;)

Ps Coolie never ever wrong ever!
I actually thought around February of this year but hedging bets, went for late last year! So Jeanie correct I think!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 17, 2020, 15:18:29 pm
I was inside that night and the NAT never got past the door. Some big burly bikers saw to that. A few broken windows and that was it.
If you were inside, your memory is deceiving you!
1. It wasn't night - around 5pm.
2. Certainly more than a few broken windows...a couple on both sides badly injured - but yes from glass!

Sure you were there???


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 17, 2020, 15:57:36 pm
If you were inside, your memory is deceiving you!
1. It wasn't night - around 5pm.
2. Certainly more than a few broken windows...a couple on both sides badly injured - but yes from glass!

Sure you were there???
It was after 5 PM, as i had been to the game, and it would have taken a while to walk down there. Big Neil from the Lupus biking club wrapped his arms around the doors. And just stood there. Yes I was inside. And you never got in. Broken windows count for nothing. No further comment.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Grove on December 17, 2020, 16:29:56 pm
incidentally who remembers the almighty fracas in the Romany before the FA Cup game with Villa fans in 81?

Yes i was in there , every glass got broken that day, luckily the lounge was being converted into 'vardos' bar , and closed off, had to drink in the elephant that night , ironically with a Villa fan.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 17, 2020, 18:44:30 pm
It was after 5 PM, as i had been to the game, and it would have taken a while to walk down there. Big Neil from the Lupus biking club wrapped his arms around the doors. And just stood there. Yes I was inside. And you never got in. Broken windows count for nothing. No further comment.
The lads involved on both sides were not at the game.
I will in my Sherlock Holmes (though Sheehan & Holmes preferable) role deduce, you were not there at time of event and missed it! Some hairy biker embellishing a story with his bottle of Hooch, and passing it around to any wide eyes in attendance!
No further comment!  ;)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 17, 2020, 21:17:02 pm
The lads involved on both sides were not at the game.
I will in my Sherlock Holmes (though Sheehan & Holmes preferable) role deduce, you were not there at time of event and missed it! Some hairy biker embellishing a story with his bottle of Hooch, and passing it around to any wide eyes in attendance!
No further comment!  ;)
I will rescind my no further comment, to say this, I was inside, I watched it happen , I pulled people away from the windows. I saw bikers take offence at their pub being attacked, and say again you never got in. Now then, where were you?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 21:50:42 pm
Yes i was in there , every glass got broken that day, luckily the lounge was being converted into 'vardos' bar , and closed off, had to drink in the elephant that night , ironically with a Villa fan.
I went to go in, sensed the rather tense atmosphere and decided against it. Iím a lover not a fighter.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 21:57:16 pm
Does anyone remember when after Northampton hosted It's a Knockout in the 70's, one of the cowboy/western chuck wagons, used for one of the races, was on top of the entrance to the Romany?  It was there for quite a while if I remember rightly?
I remember Itís A Knockout, (fondly remembered as Its A C0ckout at our school) I didnít go but remember them building the temporary stands on pitches 11-15 down the Barrack Road end. I saw it on TV and remember the cart at The Romany but never made the connection between the 2 before?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 22:03:27 pm
Just watched the highlights, our keeper didn't exactly cover himself in glory, very similar to the 4-0 defeat at Crawley.  ::)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 17, 2020, 22:28:45 pm
(fondly remembered as Its A C0ckout at our school)
A rather remarkable coincidence given the eventual revelations about Stuart Hall?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Manwork04 on December 17, 2020, 22:56:07 pm
A rather remarkable coincidence given the eventual revelations about Stuart Hall?
😂 is he still inside?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 18, 2020, 02:44:26 am
😂 is he still inside?
Dunno, but I reckon your new mate Jim Hall Fixit has picked a most unfortunate pseudonym to use on the forum? I feel quite bad saying that as he has stuck up for me in the past, but him having a continual pop about my punctuation sort of lets me off the hook a bit?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: JollyCobbler on December 18, 2020, 03:32:39 am
I went to go in, sensed the rather tense atmosphere and decided against it. Iím a lover not a fighter.

I thought I had an idea who you might be. But given what you wrote here I am definitely wrong. The Oz based Cobbler I'm thinking of would have been the first one slinging! :)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 18, 2020, 06:24:29 am
Dunno, but I reckon your new mate Jim Hall Fixit has picked a most unfortunate pseudonym to use on the forum? I feel quite bad saying that as he has stuck up for me in the past, but him having a continual pop about my punctuation sort of lets me off the hook a bit?

Gutted!

Melly, I find you one of the most well informed and articulate contributors on here. Your Cobbs related views are very similar to mine so ... whatís not to like! I was just trying to help you , in the spirit of continual improvement - we have been blessed with the concept of a paragraph to help the reader process and understand the written word - all Iím suggesting is, if it exists, then fcuking use it!

As to Manny, Iím clearly not as in-synch with his views on all things Cobbs but he makes me smile. Also his contributions are normally so short they donít require paragraphs!

Finally, Iím not going to apologise for who I am! Jim Hall was my first boyhood footballing hero. I for one am not going to let a long haired Yorkshire tosser stop me celebrating the big mans place in Cobblers history. Also, Iím a believer that once you censor history you allow it space to happen again.

UTC


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 18, 2020, 06:35:27 am
Just watched the highlights, our keeper didn't exactly cover himself in glory, very similar to the 4-0 defeat at Crawley.  ::)
I thought that too DC. Not really what you need when youíve got a makeshift defence including a 17 yr old making their debut! Not sure the other goalkeeping option is much better though - maybe give Sammy a go?


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 18, 2020, 06:55:01 am
I thought that too DC. Not really what you need when you’ve got a makeshift defence including a 17 yr old making their debut! Not sure the other goalkeeping option is much better though - maybe give Sammy a go?

So he can emulate the great Philip of Irchester?  8)


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on December 18, 2020, 07:52:52 am
Gutted!

Melly, I find you one of the most well informed and articulate contributors on here. Your Cobbs related views are very similar to mine so ... whatís not to like! I was just trying to help you , in the spirit of continual improvement - we have been blessed with the concept of a paragraph to help the reader process and understand the written word - all Iím suggesting is, if it exists, then fcuking use it!

As to Manny, Iím clearly not as in-synch with his views on all things Cobbs but he makes me smile. Also his contributions are normally so short they donít require paragraphs!

Finally, Iím not going to apologise for who I am! Jim Hall was my first boyhood footballing hero. I for one am not going to let a long haired Yorkshire tosser stop me celebrating the big mans place in Cobblers history. Also, Iím a believer that once you censor history you allow it space to happen again.

UTC
Apologies Jimbo, all true and I consider myself thoroughly and appropriately reprimanded.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 18, 2020, 15:58:31 pm
And they wont be the last.
Picturedrome now closed.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Coolcat on December 18, 2020, 16:41:08 pm
I will rescind my no further comment, to say this, I was inside, I watched it happen , I pulled people away from the windows. I saw bikers take offence at their pub being attacked, and say again you never got in. Now then, where were you?
Why you are saying 'you' is mystifying...I never said me!
Also didn't say they got in...read my original post!
However, you trying to paint a picture of being so brave with your beardy viking pal, and that nowt happened doesn't stack up, as does your timings!


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 18, 2020, 16:53:16 pm
Why you are saying 'you' is mystifying...I never said me!
Also didn't say they got in...read my original post!
However, you trying to paint a picture of being so brave with your beardy viking pal, and that nowt happened doesn't stack up, as does your timings!
So you were not there then, oh dear. I was. I know what I saw, you only know what you heard. You dont like being proved wrong do you. typical teacher. Bye Bye. xx


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: JollyCobbler on December 18, 2020, 17:09:59 pm
Why you are saying 'you' is mystifying...I never said me!
Also didn't say they got in...read my original post!
However, you trying to paint a picture of being so brave with your beardy viking pal, and that nowt happened doesn't stack up, as does your timings!

It was after five - maybe 5.20/530? Contrary to what's been said on here, a couple did get manage to get inside. And to be fair they had a rough time of it. All said and done, they'd been calling it on for a few weeks. NAT turned up with big numbers and they didn't much fancy it, so hid inside the boozer. In all fairness, during those years they were usually game for a ruck. But severely outnumbered that day.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Tabasco Kid on December 18, 2020, 18:44:17 pm
It was after five - maybe 5.20/530? Contrary to what's been said on here, a couple did get manage to get inside. And to be fair they had a rough time of it. All said and done, they'd been calling it on for a few weeks. NAT turned up with big numbers and they didn't much fancy it, so hid inside the boozer. In all fairness, during those years they were usually game for a ruck. But severely outnumbered that day.
Thank you.


Title: Re: Oxford United away Tuesday night 15/12/20
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on December 19, 2020, 11:04:43 am
Rather ironic the turn this thread has taken just when KC is calling for more fight from the players!