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Title: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 09, 2021, 14:33:50 pm
News just in, The salary cap has now been scrapped.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/09/league-one-two-scrap-salary-cap-after-appeal-by-players-union-pfa

For me I think this is a bad idea. I know some people  think Sunderland ect should be able to spend what they want but they wouldn't be in this league had they been responsible in the first place.

What's everyone else's thought ?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 09, 2021, 14:57:00 pm
To me it's the best thing, a salary cap is a restriction of trade, if teams over spend then that's the risk they take. All teams big or small take a gamble every so often, that's football. Bringing in caps etc is just further sanitisation of the sport just to appease all the snow flakes.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: singcobb on February 09, 2021, 15:20:37 pm
To me the cap is a restrictive business practice. Imagine what would happen if you told any other group of companies that they couldn't pay the workers what was meritted.
I don't have a problem if a club wants to gamble on buying promotion, some will win some will lose and if those that lose go to the wall then so be it.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 09, 2021, 15:34:37 pm
Did you two support the bail out from the Prem?

I personally think if there is no wage cap then that should not have happened. Why should prem clubs pay for Sunderland, Hull ect to spank a bail out on new players.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 09, 2021, 15:40:55 pm
I think an element of it should be linked to attendances, there's no way Sunderland should be limited to the same maximum as Accrington, but it is absolutely suicidal to not have these caps. These aren't start-up companies, they're community assets as much as they are limited companies, and the salary cap in Rugby Union and most sports in ultra-capitalist United States show that isn't exactly a foreign or exotic concept.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: OCoole on February 09, 2021, 15:44:12 pm
To me it's the best thing, a salary cap is a restriction of trade, if teams over spend then that's the risk they take. All teams big or small take a **** every so often, that's football. Bringing in caps etc is just further sanitisation of the sport just to appease all the snow flakes.

Is it appeasing the "snowflakes"? Or is it rather a sensible step towards curbing the ridiculous amount of clubs either biting the dust or being put perilously close by rogue owners? Who are the "snowflakes" here and what does that really even mean?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Coolcat on February 09, 2021, 15:45:17 pm
Likewise, what is the point (other than keeping the club afloat) of selling on a Goode for us, Toney for Posh if such limits and restrictions are in place to strengthen and try and have ambition?

When sugar daddy from the Beds area finally comes over the horizon, would like to think we get more than a few crock loans and cast offs from Oldham Athletic!
Good news!


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: guest3086 on February 09, 2021, 15:46:02 pm
I think it is outrageous.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: OCoole on February 09, 2021, 15:47:27 pm
I think an element of it should be linked to attendances, there's no way Sunderland should be limited to the same maximum as Accrington, but it is absolutely suicidal to not have these caps. These aren't start-up companies, they're community assets as much as they are limited companies, and the salary cap in Rugby Union and most sports in ultra-capitalist United States show that isn't exactly a foreign or exotic concept.

Exactly this. Sports stars in US team sports still earn huge salaries but the leagues keep a competitive edge by having team salary caps. It makes it more interesting because its not always the usual suspects winning each year.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 09, 2021, 15:55:12 pm
What is the ridiculous amount of teams that have bitten the dust ? If teams cannot take a gamble to attract players in to boast their chances of success it will become a stale boring sport to watch. Rugby union has a cap, but just how many teams are there in their sport ?
 The bail out from the premiership is based on the size of the club, the bigger the club the bigger the payout, just as it should be. Again i say its was just done to appease the snowflakes who think everything in life should be fair, like no losers at school sports, well time to wake up and realise it is a big bad world out there where all is not equal.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Coolcat on February 09, 2021, 16:08:27 pm
Exactly this. Sports stars in US team sports still earn huge salaries but the leagues keep a competitive edge by having team salary caps. It makes it more interesting because its not always the usual suspects winning each year.
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Makes what more interesting exactly? Not the same teams winning each year...Patriots record in the NFL in the last decade? Each club a franchise, so nullifying to a great extent the historical community values we have here and throughout football in general.
There are no promotions, relegations or pyramid systems in place with the NFL, MLB or NBL. It could also be argued that the draft system in the US, contradicts success...hence the Philadelphia Eagles throwing their last regular game this season.
Hardly more interesting I'd say, and though we can become dewy eyed with nostalgia, think when we go back to the Dicky Jeeps at the Saints or Jack English at the Cobblers earning pennies, hardly allows for development, merely maintaining a stagnant status quo.
Having said all that, I am of course not trying to excuse or support the absurd amounts being paid to Neymar et-al in the higher echelons of sports, but £2.5 million as a cap went absurdly tge other way!


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: OCoole on February 09, 2021, 16:14:11 pm
What is the ridiculous amount of teams that have bitten the dust ? If teams cannot take a **** to attract players in to boast their chances of success it will become a stale boring sport to watch. Rugby union has a cap, but just how many teams are there in their sport ?
 The bail out from the premiership is based on the size of the club, the bigger the club the bigger the payout, just as it should be. Again i say its was just done to appease the snowflakes who think everything in life should be fair, like no losers at school sports, well time to wake up and realise it is a big bad world out there where all is not equal.

I've helpfully highlighted the part of your comment where you made yourself sound stupid  :)

As for what is the ridiculous amount of teams that have bitten the dust - 2 football league sides in the last 3 years (Bury and Macclesfield have gone) because of poor ownership. How many other clubs have come very close in the last 5 years or so? Off the top of my head - Cobblers, Bolton, Southend, Wigan, Portsmouth, Charlton, Leyton Orient, Oldham, Port Vale, and now possibly both Derby and Swindon. There are plenty more cases if you go back further.

Please tell me why you can't see the problem?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 09, 2021, 16:16:07 pm
I think the main thing I like about it is that it simple and difficult to game with complex financial schemes. I don't have any problem with Portsmouth having more wages than us, if it's proportional to success and attendances. Any existing controls put in are too easily gamed, as we've seen constantly with Crawley, Fleetwood, Rushden and Diamonds, Manchester City etc. You can't sponsor your own stadium for billions of pounds of whatever to get around a set salary cap. It probably should staggered to some sort of financial indicator, whether their's ticket sales or attendances or whatever to allow it increase to a certain percent, but with an absolute cap on top. Maybe like an absolutely max of £10 million in League 1, but cut down to £3 million if you're only bringing in 4000 fans a game, or something like that.

It would obviously be personally great for us if the whole league was limited to £2.5 million a year, but that's obviously not a fair reason to have it.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on February 09, 2021, 16:16:58 pm
To me it's the best thing, a salary cap is a restriction of trade, if teams over spend then that's the risk they take. All teams big or small take a **** every so often, that's football. Bringing in caps etc is just further sanitisation of the sport just to appease all the snow flakes.
Not everything that somebody disagrees with was done by "snowflakes", in fact given your use of it here, I'm not even sure you know what the term is supposed to mean


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Manwork04 on February 09, 2021, 16:20:32 pm
Great now we can spunk all KTs money, I am all for it.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: OCoole on February 09, 2021, 16:22:40 pm
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Makes what more interesting exactly? Not the same teams winning each year...Patriots record in the NFL in the last decade? Each club a franchise, so nullifying to a great extent the historical community values we have here and throughout football in general.
There are no promotions, relegations or pyramid systems in place with the NFL, MLB or NBL. It could also be argued that the draft system in the US, contradicts success...hence the Philadelphia Eagles throwing their last regular game this season.
Hardly more interesting I'd say, and though we can become dewy eyed with nostalgia, think when we go back to the Dicky Jeeps at the Saints or Jack English at the Cobblers earning pennies, hardly allows for development, merely maintaining a stagnant status quo.
Having said all that, I am of course not trying to excuse or support the absurd amounts being paid to Neymar et-al in the higher echelons of sports, but £2.5 million as a cap went absurdly tge other way!

But did it go absurdly the other way, or rather, was it a sensible step to keep as many clubs alive during an ongoing period of which clubs are experiencing the biggest cash flow problem they have probably ever known? You only have to look at the debts racked up by nearly every Championship club to see how the faint chance of the massive carrot (Premier League money) can persuade owners to overspend year on year.

How many owners in League One might have thought "you know what, other clubs will be tightening their belts right now, we should just go for bust and spend"? In my opinion some sort of cap was absolutely pragmatic and necessary - you could make a case that it could be scaled by average crowds (i.e. Sunderland's cap is larger than Accy's) once crowds are allowed back in, but for once I think football's governing bodies are actually showing some proper leadership.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 09, 2021, 16:23:11 pm
Great now we can spunk all KTs money, I am all for it.

You do know that he hasn't got any?  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Manwork04 on February 09, 2021, 16:26:39 pm
You do know that he hasn't got any?  ;) ;D
Bugger, I thought that was going too well.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 09, 2021, 16:27:36 pm
I do think this is part of a much bigger plan, that will inevitably lead to a better form of self regulation. I do not for one second expect the league to stand by and watch clubs run up huge debts these days without some accountability. We are in the era of clubs going to the wall if they should do. In some respects, it probably is a case of giving them enough rope, in a world where the salary cap has proved to be nigh on impossible to police. Deal with them by example. It won't take long for a natural balance to come to the fore. Spend too much, you're fcuked, type of set up  ;D


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on February 09, 2021, 16:28:09 pm
You do know that he hasn't got any?  ;) ;D

I bet he's got more than us lot  ;D


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Coolcat on February 09, 2021, 17:22:49 pm
But did it go absurdly the other way, or rather, was it a sensible step to keep as many clubs alive during an ongoing period of which clubs are experiencing the biggest cash flow problem they have probably ever known? You only have to look at the debts racked up by nearly every Championship club to see how the faint chance of the massive carrot (Premier League money) can persuade owners to overspend year on year.

How many owners in League One might have thought "you know what, other clubs will be tightening their belts right now, we should just go for bust and spend"? In my opinion some sort of cap was absolutely pragmatic and necessary - you could make a case that it could be scaled by average crowds (i.e. Sunderland's cap is larger than Accy's) once crowds are allowed back in, but for once I think football's governing bodies are actually showing some proper leadership.
I'd agree with this but possibly a significant doubling at least of the ceiling. Clubs such a Macclesfield haven't gone bust by going all out or bust - their dodgy owner didn't as much as couldn't pay the minimally low players' wages and the bills. No salary cap would help Macclesfield and nor likely Bury...though Bolton Wanderers, most certainly I agree.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: guest3086 on February 09, 2021, 17:34:16 pm
I think we should rename the auto paint pizza freight trophy The Celery Cup.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 09, 2021, 17:35:30 pm
The problem is that I believe there are different responsibilities to running a football club? The greatest of which is to be custodians of what is really an institution of historical importance? We have been fortunate enough to be from a town that has a football league club. If you are like me the club has been supported by my family for generations. My earliest shared experiences with my Dad as a child was watching Northampton Town, as were my fathers with his.
All of that history and emotion wrapped up in that claret shirt, memories and pleasures that will be with me for my entire life. Yet history has shown us that a number of owners have come in with little regard for any of that history? With self serving indulgence they have treated the club as anything from an ego trip, to a gravy train and investment opportunity and all points in between?
Egged on by many in the support base drunk on the prospect of self gratification they pump more and more money into the club, risking its very future and possibly denying future generations the opportunity to support the club and enjoy the experiences we have had? Was ours a unique story then perhaps it may be different, but it is spread across the lower leagues at virtually every club? Like a reflection of society itself, the mantra for many football club owners is spend now worry about it later and damn the consequences.
Those that are not spending are draining it dry with ridiculous salaries drawn from clubs that never make a profit, cars, property renovations and god knows what else whilst they seek worship from the directors box. The majority of these abhorrent individuals couldn’t direct p1ss into a bucket? Football has proved itself incapable of running itself in the best of times.
Now in the midst of the biggest crisis to unfold in generations the governing bodies have shown themselves to be once again weak and incapable of acting in the interests of the sport and institutions we all love. This is by giving these lunatics license to spend what they want, when they want endorsed by a fan base who state that if they are stupid enough to spend it than that’s their problem?
This is despite all of them to a club putting their hands out for the recent bale out? What an absolutely appalling and disgusting approach to take? The governing bodies and football generally speaking including the support base should hang their heads in shame? But my greatest anger is reserved for the many owners who have no doubt heaped pressure on the EFL to remove the restrictions and give them license back to continue on with their selfish and misguided ego trip into the unknown?
They should never be let anywhere near the position of responsibility they have found themselves in the first place. When is everyone going to wake up and do something. Change a roof tile on a 150 year old building and the government goes mad. Drive a club that has been supported by thousands and thousands for generations into oblivion unchecked then no problem, the worlds gone mad?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Manwork04 on February 09, 2021, 17:48:36 pm
The problem is that I believe there are different responsibilities to running a football club? The greatest of which is to be custodians of what is really an institution of historical importance? We have been fortunate enough to be from a town that has a football league club. If you are like me the club has been supported by my family for generations. My earliest shared experiences with my Dad as a child was watching Northampton Town, as were my fathers with his. All of that history and emotion wrapped up in that claret shirt, memories and pleasures that will be with me for my entire life. Yet history has shown us that a number of owners have come in with little regard for any of that history? With self serving indulgence they have treated the club as anything from an ego trip, to a gravy train and investment opportunity and all points in between? Egged on by many in the support base drunk on the prospect of self gratification they pump more and more money into the club, risking its very future and possibly denying future generations the opportunity to support the club and enjoy the experiences we have had? Was ours a unique story then perhaps it may be different, but it is spread across the lower leagues at virtually every club? Like a reflection of society itself, the mantra for many football club owners is spend now worry about it later and damn the consequences. Those that are not spending are draining it dry with ridiculous salaries drawn from clubs that never make a profit, cars, property renovations and god knows what else whilst they seek worship from the directors box. The majority of these abhorrent individuals couldn’t direct p1ss into a bucket? Football has proved itself incapable of running itself in the best of times. Now in the midst of the biggest crisis to unfold in generations the governing bodies have shown themselves to be once again weak and incapable of acting in the interests of the sport and institutions we all love. This is by giving these lunatics license to spend what they want, when they want endorsed by a fan base who state that if they are stupid enough to spend it than that’s their problem? This is despite all of them to a club putting their hands out for the recent bale out? What an absolutely appalling and disgusting approach to take? The governing bodies and football generally speaking including the support base should hang their heads in shame? But my greatest anger is reserved for the many owners who have no doubt heaped pressure on the EFL to remove the restrictions and give them license back to continue on with their selfish and misguided ego trip into the unknown? They should never be let anywhere near the position of responsibility they have found themselves in the first place. When is everyone going to wake up and do something. Change a roof tile on a 150 year old building and the government goes mad. Drive a club that has been supported by thousands and thousands for generations into oblivion unchecked then no problem, the worlds gone mad?
I had a funny feeling you’d like this thread Melly. 😉


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 09, 2021, 17:51:24 pm
I had a funny feeling you’d like this thread Melly. 😉
Unsurprisingly I’m having a fume and a lay down with a cold flannel.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 20, 2021, 16:53:26 pm
A catastrophe is fast appearing on the horizon. The incompetence of the EFL in refusing to accept a condition which would in effect result in a level playing field for all Championship clubs is bewildering? To be clear in the current financial situation the EFL refuses to agree that players will not be allowed to be paid bigger salaries, a condition that applies to all other businesses in this situation. The stupidity, misguided decision making and ability to govern by this outdated and inept organisation is frankly a disgrace and embarrassing? The false financial position of many clubs is about to end and the consequences for football will be far reaching if this isn’t resolved? Even if it is the fact that it needs to be repaid within a strict timeline will be a considerable challenge for many Championship clubs? In any event, I suspect there will be a knock on effect that will filter down throughout football, as I imagine tax bills are not going to be paid by a number of clubs anyway? Financial reality looms, and the eyes of the blind are about to be opened?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56137353


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Manwork04 on February 21, 2021, 11:39:49 am
A catastrophe is fast appearing on the horizon. The incompetence of the EFL in refusing to accept a condition which would in effect result in a level playing field for all Championship clubs is bewildering? To be clear in the current financial situation the EFL refuses to agree that players will not be allowed to be paid bigger salaries, a condition that applies to all other businesses in this situation. The stupidity, misguided decision making and ability to govern by this outdated and inept organisation is frankly a disgrace and embarrassing? The false financial position of many clubs is about to end and the consequences for football will be far reaching if this isn’t resolved? Even if it is the fact that it needs to be repaid within a strict timeline will be a considerable challenge for many Championship clubs? In any event, I suspect there will be a knock on effect that will filter down throughout football, as I imagine tax bills are not going to be paid by a number of clubs anyway? Financial reality looms, and the eyes of the blind are about to be opened?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56137353
I agree with all of this, still think we should have spunked everything on Nugent though!


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 21, 2021, 12:33:57 pm
Why do people keep complaining that the EFL are at fault, surely any company that is trading, pays its workers the going rate, what they can afford ? Before people blame the EFL lets look at the Chairmen who pay the wages, nobody makes them, look at the agents who demand the player is paid a high wage, look at the player who is happy to let the agent demand a high wage, look at the supporters who want the best players and for the Chairman to spend big. Ive been watching football for  god knows how long and all i keep hearing is " The League are at fault... The FA are at fault "  and for those years people have kept saying " this cant go on,Clubs will go bust"  year after year, yes Clubs will go bust, yes some will come close, but isnt that the same as all types of  business ? Why does a salary cap need to be put in place because the Clubs cannot control the spending ? Let them spend, let them achieve success, let them fail, because that is what Clubs do, that is football, that is the high and the heartache. A salary cap is just another nail in the coffin of football on its way to complete sanitation.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: guest3338 on February 21, 2021, 13:05:56 pm
Why do people keep complaining that the EFL are at fault, surely any company that is trading, pays its workers the going rate, what they can afford ? Before people blame the EFL lets look at the Chairmen who pay the wages, nobody makes them, look at the agents who demand the player is paid a high wage, look at the player who is happy to let the agent demand a high wage, look at the supporters who want the best players and for the Chairman to spend big. Ive been watching football for  god knows how long and all i keep hearing is " The League are at fault... The FA are at fault "  and for those years people have kept saying " this cant go on,Clubs will go bust"  year after year, yes Clubs will go bust, yes some will come close, but isnt that the same as all types of  business ? Why does a salary cap need to be put in place because the Clubs cannot control the spending ? Let them spend, let them achieve success, let them fail, because that is what Clubs do, that is football, that is the high and the heartache. A salary cap is just another nail in the coffin of football on its way to complete sanitation.
Free market enterprise you mean?
People will argue the community aspect of a football club should be taken into account and hence the need for the EFL to impose artificial limits and ceilings to try and prevent clubs from failing, but how many that do fold aren't almost immediately 'replaced' by a phoenix club which has immediate intentions of filling the void left by the disappearance of the original club?
I'd be genuinely interested to see a register of professional and semi professional clubs that have gone under over the past 40 years that have never been replaced within that community by a start up club, or ones that have been but the phoenix club has also proven to be unsustainable.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 21, 2021, 18:55:13 pm
Why do people keep complaining that the EFL are at fault, surely any company that is trading, pays its workers the going rate, what they can afford ? Before people blame the EFL lets look at the Chairmen who pay the wages, nobody makes them, look at the agents who demand the player is paid a high wage, look at the player who is happy to let the agent demand a high wage, look at the supporters who want the best players and for the Chairman to spend big. Ive been watching football for  god knows how long and all i keep hearing is " The League are at fault... The FA are at fault "  and for those years people have kept saying " this cant go on,Clubs will go bust"  year after year, yes Clubs will go bust, yes some will come close, but isnt that the same as all types of  business ? Why does a salary cap need to be put in place because the Clubs cannot control the spending ? Let them spend, let them achieve success, let them fail, because that is what Clubs do, that is football, that is the high and the heartache. A salary cap is just another nail in the coffin of football on its way to complete sanitation.
Problem is tcobb some can’t pay their tax bill. To clarify, they are being offered a loan by the government to defer this? When this happens in industry a condition is that you can’t blow this money on increasing executives wages and the like. For me that is perfectly reasonable, that is not the correct use of tax payers money? It is supposed to give the company financial stability and stave off bankruptcy and the like. The government stipulated that a condition of the loan was that clubs couldn’t blow it on players wages and trying to get themselves promoted etc. it was there to support them similar to the usual conditions and the EFL refused to accept it? So to be clear, in the current financial climate the EFL have rejected an offer of millions from the government to support championship clubs because they sought to impose a condition that applies to the rest of industry in these circumstances for reasons that couldn’t be more logical and clearer? So no they are not prepared to operate as other businesses.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 21, 2021, 19:03:46 pm
I cant understand the EFL not accepting the loan with the conditions attached, the government don't want it used to increase players wages which is fair enough, it is there to keep each club in business. ie; paying the existing wage structure.
Although the loan really doesn't have anything directly to do with a salary cap, so my original point stands.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 21, 2021, 19:25:25 pm
I cant understand the EFL not accepting the loan with the conditions attached, the government don't want it used to increase players wages which is fair enough, it is there to keep each club in business. ie; paying the existing wage structure.
Although the loan really doesn't have anything directly to do with a salary cap, so my original point stands.
It all depends on whether you see clubs as a business or as I put it, an institution of historical importance? I prefer the latter, which means you have finances directly linked to your support and are at the mercy of the unpredictability of sport. The downside is that it is very difficult for clubs like ours to ever make it to the Prem. Your way clubs are often at the mercy of individuals who have little care or regard for the club’s future? Think about our recent history and how close we have come to the end? However, your way the prospect of success and going to the Championship and beyond is far more possible, so I do get it? I just think that salary caps offer a sort of half way house where it curtails some of the more irresponsible decision making at board level? The problem for football is that it attracts many more suitors than a business in its financial position normally would, often for the wrong reasons? That’s a significant challenge as decisions are often ego driven rather than financially driven, so IMO there are a number of differences faced by football in comparison to regular businesses?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 21, 2021, 19:37:06 pm
Fully understand what you are saying Melbourne, but i would rather have an open market, i know Clubs are a big part of their local community, but they should still be allowed to flourish or die in the name of competition, clubs that a big part of the community will survive, either by being rescued or reformed, that's the risk that football thrives on, with out that it just becomes a stale boring status quo


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 21, 2021, 19:44:27 pm
Fully understand what you are saying Melbourne, but i would rather have an open market, i know Clubs are a big part of their local community, but they should still be allowed to flourish or die in the name of competition, clubs that a big part of the community will survive, either by being rescued or reformed, that's the risk that football thrives on, with out that it just becomes a stale boring status quo
And right here is the two sides of the debate that goes on a nearly every lower league club? However, at the very least have some strong governance to prevent the Wigan situation occurring and the like?


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: tcobb on February 21, 2021, 20:22:50 pm
Tbf Wigan has happened because the Club has spent beyond their means, they took the gamble and failed, they achieved their success by being bankrolled by a wealthy benefactor. If a salary cap had been in force when thy came into the League all those years ago ,more than likely they would have remained in the bottom two leagues, never achieving an FA Cup win or top flight football.


Title: Re: Salary cap scrapped
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 21, 2021, 21:16:57 pm
Tbf Wigan has happened because the Club has spent beyond their means, they took the **** and failed, they achieved their success by being bankrolled by a wealthy benefactor. If a salary cap had been in force when thy came into the League all those years ago ,more than likely they would have remained in the bottom two leagues, never achieving an FA Cup win or top flight football.
What about the allegations that the last owner took over and deliberately got them a points deduction as part of a betting scheme? Now this refusal to accept the conditions of the government loan? Seriously tcobb you can drive a coach and horses through the professional judgment of the EFL. That’s my view anyway?

Edit: a players perspective on the EFL. Worth a read.

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/sam-morsy-wigan-points-deduction-relegation-wigan-athletic-876508