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Title: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 22, 2021, 16:29:16 pm
Next up we face the first part of a double header against other relegation threatened teams...lets hope it works out better than the last double header!!

Rochdale are the visitors to the PTS tomorrow night.....Rochdale are four places above us, but only two points in front of us, so a win for the Cobblers will see us leapfrog them in the table.

They have the 14th best away record in the league, of their 6 league wins so far this season five of them have come away from home. Wins at other struggling teams such as Burton, Shrewsbury, Wigan and Bristol Rovers plus a win at Plymouth. They have also had cup wins at Huddersfield and Morecambe on the road so they're no mugs. Twenty four goals scored in their away games means they have scored more than we have home AND away combined, they have also conceded 24 on their travels too.

After a goalscoring glut a few weeks back things have tightened up at both ends, they've only scored one goal in their last four games, but they come off the back of a 1-0 defeat at Blackpool and a goalless draw at home to Plymouth on Saturday. Overall just one win in their last 12 games has meant they've been unable to escape the lower reaches of the table despite their previously impressive scoring record, 41 goals scored in the League.

Matty Lund (who has always impressed me as a player) is their top scorer with 12 goals although he has also picked up 10 yellow cards in all competitions too, Stephen Humphrys is behind him in the scoring charts with 8, and Alex Newby who was prolific for Chorley weighs in with 7 for Rochdale this term.

January transfer business was thin on the ground, though they did pick up two Conor's....Shaughnessy and Grant from Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday respectively.

Our last meeting back in November saw us share the spoils in a 1-1 draw, Harry Smith gave us a first half lead only for the aforementioned Humphrys to pop up with an equaliser five minutes from time. Overall, as befits a couple of regulars in the lower leagues we have an extensive head to head, a total of 64 games and an equal spread of 21 Dale wins, 20 Cobblers wins and 23 draws. In the League we have 20 wins to their 19 though. 

We have not beaten Rochdale on any of their last four visits to Sixfields, they walked off with a 1-0 win on their last visit back in February 2018, Calvin Andrew grabbing the only goal of the game, McWilliams and Hoskins were both unused subs for us that day, the only two survivors in our squad to this day.
They beat us 3-2 in the League in 2016...Matty Lund scored a hat-trick on that day for them and Hoskins was on the scoresheet for us, a goalless draw in the FA Cup in 2014 which saw them play for 75 minutes with 10 men following Ian Hendersons sending off, we went on to lose in the replay, and before that a 3-0 win for them in February 2014, Lund again on the scoresheet, and he also got sent off in the game, with Henderson grabbing a goal as did a certain Joe Bunney.  Mr Lund certainly has some history at Sixfields!!

We have to go right back to February 2013 for our last win on home soil against them, a 3-1 win thanks to goals from Platt, Langmead and Akinfenwa, current Dale manager Brian Barry-Murphy was on the bench for them that day. Barry Murphy has had 92 games in charge of the team since the departure of Keith Hill, 29 wins and 40 defeats on his record.
That win in February 2013 is the only league win for the Cobblers in the last FOURTEEN games between the sides, so we certainly owe them one!

Kevin Johnson will be the man with the whistle tomorrow night, Johnson who hails from Weston-super-Mare was branded "a clown" by the Crawley manager following his handling of their game against Orient a couple of weeks ago. He issued one of his four red cards this season in that game, and 56 yellows in his 20 games suggests players will have to tread a little more carefully than usual on Tuesday. It will be his second visit to the PTS this season, he oversaw our 1-0 home defeat by Accrington in November, he also reffed our early season EFL Cup defeat at Swansea last year. If records are correct this will be the first Rochdale games he's handled since December 2018.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 22, 2021, 23:21:46 pm
Come on Welly, Wadey et al  any chance of  a proposed eleven for Rochdale?

     


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3419 on February 23, 2021, 04:21:23 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 23, 2021, 04:22:07 am
0-1 Dale
A 95th min Hoskmiester OG.
Brady leaves and Curlio returns..


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 06:57:52 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss

Looks good, bench would be ok too with Sowerby and Edmundson to come on.

UTC.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clarity on February 23, 2021, 07:38:58 am
Looks good, bench would be ok too with Sowerby and Edmundson to come on.

UTC.
Edmundson, are you serious?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 23, 2021, 08:34:21 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss

Where's Sammy?!?  :o

Really looking forward to this later!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 23, 2021, 08:48:25 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss
I think Watson deserves to start, our strongest goal threat from open play, supported by Marshalls delivery from set pieces. Only questions with that is if Sheehan is fit, and whether you play Horsfall over Jones based on their last game?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Gen.Disorda on February 23, 2021, 09:20:14 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss

I think this is probably our best 11, Take it or leave it between Mitchell and Arnold tbh.

McWilliams, Morris and Watson has enough energy and bite to not require Hoskins in there.

Although with Miller and Marshall I think Morris would have to sit back a little bit more.



Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 09:32:43 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss
I like the look of that but a world without Hoskins?
Expect one of the starting eleven to go down with injury or something between now and KO.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 23, 2021, 10:11:42 am
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss

No Hoskins has been sel in all JB games so far


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 10:31:11 am
Edmundson, are you serious?
Yes, he’s a young boy, on the bench and light years better than BAS.
I thought he played ok at the weekend and should have scored.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clarity on February 23, 2021, 10:39:22 am
Yes, he’s a young boy, on the bench and light years better than BAS.
I thought he played ok at the weekend and should have scored.
No argument BAS is one of the worst strikers seen on the hallowed turf. Your point saying Edmundson should have scored says it all. I promise you, I would have scored that chance. Obviously when young enough to play  :)


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 10:43:35 am
No argument BAS is one of the worst strikers seen on the hallowed turf. Your point saying Edmundson should have scored says it all. I promise you, I would have scored that chance. Obviously when young enough to play  :)
I know what you mean😂 off the bench he is the best we’ve currently got if Rose starts.
I’m desperate for a win for JB and the lads tonight they absolutely deserve it.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Coolcat on February 23, 2021, 14:00:27 pm
              Arnold

Kioso  Jones  Sheehan  Mills

       McWilliams   Morris 

                    Watson 

         Marshall  Rose  Miller

Discuss
Is Miller back in contention?
If so, playing him central left midfield could be the answer.
Not sure about the lone Discuss up front though. Where did we get him from anyway?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 23, 2021, 14:05:04 pm
By all accounts, he did ok second half last game. Obviously focussing on his all round game rather than just his shots on targets. In reality, all the strikers are misfiring, Rose is probably solidified as first choice but he's not untouchable up there. Realisitcally, there isn't much to choose between Rose, Edmunson, Chuk, Bas, Korboa or anyone else you want to stick in the middle, none of them have done it yet, so if it isn't working keep rotating them until someone starts to fire.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 14:34:05 pm
By all accounts, he did ok second half last game. Obviously focussing on his all round game rather than just his shots on targets. In reality, all the strikers are misfiring, Rose is probably solidified as first choice but he's not untouchable up there. Realisitcally, there isn't much to choose between Rose, Edmunson, Chuk, Bas, Korboa or anyone else you want to stick in the middle, none of them have done it yet, so if it isn't working keep rotating them until someone starts to fire.

Agreed, for me none of them are good enough at this level at the moment.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3063 on February 23, 2021, 17:04:05 pm
Team:

Mitchell; Kioso, Jones, Sheehan, Mills; McWilliams, Morris, Watson; Marshall, Edmondson, Miller.

Subs: Arnold, Sowerby, Bolger, Horsfall, Hoskins, Rose, Chukwuemeka.

Looks a strong team. 


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: threeinabed on February 23, 2021, 17:07:15 pm
Team:

Mitchell; Kioso, Jones, Sheehan, Mills; McWilliams, Morris, Watson; Marshall, Edmondson, Miller.

Subs: Arnold, Sowerby, Bolger, Horsfall, Hoskins, Rose, Chukwuemeka.

Looks a strong team. 

centre forward (debatable) and goalkeeper (debatable) aside - its probably what most of us would regard our first choice team.....................we dont have a stand out CF or GK so could pick those out of a hat.

wonder if dropping competition winner hoskins will mean a long awaited win?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?

in this wind - i imagine a dull 0-0


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 17:10:29 pm
Team:

Mitchell; Kioso, Jones, Sheehan, Mills; McWilliams, Morris, Watson; Marshall, Edmondson, Miller.

Subs: Arnold, Sowerby, Bolger, Horsfall, Hoskins, Rose, Chukwuemeka.

Looks a strong team. 
Watson and Marshall ahead of Hoskins.
Well done sir.
Mitchell must be doing something right in training.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 17:17:24 pm
Rochdale are abysmal defensively and often concede a hatful, got to be our best chance this season to get a few goals.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 17:24:53 pm
Looks a decent line up. Hats off to Brady for dropping Hoskins.

I would have personally stuck with Rose as I don’t think Edmondson is very good. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Strong looking bench also

Chuffed to see BAS isn’t in the squad again.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 17:26:40 pm
Looks a decent line up. Hats off to Brady for dropping Hoskins.

I would have personally stuck with Rose as I don’t think Edmondson is very good. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Strong looking bench also

Chuffed to see BAS isn’t in the squad again.
Hope Benny hasn't lent his boots to Edmondson.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 17:29:44 pm
Watson and Marshall ahead of Hoskins.
Well done sir.
Mitchell must be doing something right in training.


Him and Edmundson but be wizards in training!
Fingers crossed that both of them earn their match fee tonight!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 17:32:20 pm
* must be !!!
Sammy of the bench with a 30 yarder to win 2-1 with 4 mins to go!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 17:41:16 pm
Sammy of the Bench is a rather ironic nickname for the man that’s hard to drop ??
Of course I meant... Sammy off the bench !?
If we play as well as I’m typing tonight we are totally fcuked!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3063 on February 23, 2021, 17:47:25 pm
Sammy of the Bench is a rather ironic nickname for the man that’s hard to drop ??
Of course I meant... Sammy off the bench !?
If we play as well as I’m typing tonight we are totally fcuked!

 ;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Coolcat on February 23, 2021, 17:51:45 pm
Mitchell still in...hoping he pays back for the confidence shown by JB!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 17:57:22 pm
Hope Benny hasn't lent his boots to Edmondson.

Are we sure BAS owns a pair of boots?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 17:59:25 pm
Are we sure BAS owns a pair of boots?
Probably boots, less sure about a boot sponsor?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: sxcobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:14:48 pm
Horrible weather conditions...but already Mitchell is showing indecision.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 18:20:02 pm
Looks a decent line up. Hats off to Brady for dropping Hoskins.

I would have personally stuck with Rose as I don’t think Edmondson is very good. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Strong looking bench also

Chuffed to see BAS isn’t in the squad again.
😎


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 18:21:45 pm
MK 3-0 down already to Shrewsbury!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 18:23:08 pm
20 mins in and not a lot to get excited by.
Is it the weather or are we missing Super Sam’s creative spark?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 18:27:02 pm
20 mins in and not a lot to get excited by.
Is it the weather or are we missing Super Sam’s creative spark?
;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 18:27:06 pm
20 mins in and not a lot to get excited by.
Is it the weather or are we missing Super Sam’s creative spark?
No


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: sxcobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:32:04 pm
Never going to be a classic with this wind ....but another painful watch so far.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 23, 2021, 18:32:20 pm
Holding our own but probably the worst we've played under Brady so far... (here's hoping that tempts fate a bit ;D)


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:34:33 pm
Evening all.....anything happening?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 18:37:54 pm
Very tight, few chances.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: sxcobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:39:34 pm
Exposed on the far post yet again....dangerous tactics.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Another Pedj on February 23, 2021, 18:43:49 pm
I rhino Rico has been working with Edmondson. He looks a different player.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 18:44:58 pm
I really thought we'd get a hatful tonight after scoring 3 on Saturday. What do I know?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 18:45:29 pm
Swindon winning at Lincoln


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:46:02 pm
I really thought we'd get a hatful tonight after scoring 3 on Saturday. What do I know?

nothing....nothing at all.....


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:51:20 pm
Not going too well, and down amongst the strugglers nobody is losing....

Burton level at Charlton
Wigan and Bristol Rovers goalless
Us goalless with Dale
Swindle leading at Lincoln
Shrews are beating MK
Wimbledon and the Gills goalless, that one has 25 minutes to go.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: EB Claret on February 23, 2021, 18:52:35 pm
Gradually improved as half went on and finished on top. No clear chances yet, Edmondson looking brighter.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 18:54:01 pm
Time to bring on Hoskins?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 23, 2021, 18:55:24 pm
Morning all, think we are playing well again. Rochdale are really pressing and giving us no time on the ball, but we are still creating. We’ll win this no danger. Been impressed with Watson tonight, still like to see him upfront? On the downside there is absolutely no way McWilliams will be our player next season.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 18:56:05 pm
Don't know why Rochdale are where they are? Look better than their position in the table suggests.
Poor conditions, but they appear to have more about them than Wigan Burton or Donkeys.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 18:57:07 pm
Morning all, think we are playing well again. Rochdale are really pressing and giving us no time on the ball, but we are still creating. We’ll win this no danger. Been impressed with Watson tonight, still like to see him upfront? On the downside there is absolutely no way McWilliams will be our player next season.
You really that impressed with McWilliams?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 18:58:20 pm
Don't know why Rochdale are where they are? Look better than their position in the table suggests.
Poor conditions, but they appear to have more about them than Wigan Burton or Donkeys.


They can’t defend, they have conceded loads this season


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 18:58:27 pm
Time to bring on Hoskins?
No


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 19:01:46 pm
Sheehan's passing really poor tonight. Hope he improves second half ...


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:04:18 pm
You really that impressed with McWilliams?
I am. Not that it is any sort of qualified opinion, so if I was him I wouldn’t get too excited?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 19:06:50 pm
Normal service resumed... here comes Super Sammy.
This is written in the stars - a Hoskins master class?!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:08:24 pm
I am. Not that it is any sort of qualified opinion, so if I was him I wouldn’t get too excited?

I agree, for me him & Sheehan, probably Kioso too are a level above the rest of the squad


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 19:08:58 pm
Come on get Hoskins on. This is his time!!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:09:19 pm
I am. Not that it is any sort of qualified opinion, so if I was him I wouldn’t get too excited?
Fair enough Melly.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clarity on February 23, 2021, 19:09:24 pm
Normal service resumed... here comes Super Sammy.
This is written in the stars - a Hoskins master class?!
Would have been if Ed could have finished


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:10:27 pm
Are we certain Edmondson is a striker, has anyone bothered to check?  


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:11:51 pm
I really hope we are looking hard for new strikers for next season


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:12:13 pm
I agree, for me him & Sheehan, probably Kioso too are a level above the rest of the squad
I'm more impressed by Kioso now, got to admit. Quick and much better in the air than I first thought.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:14:03 pm
Wigan beating Bristol Rovers


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:14:25 pm
How come Marshall always looks angry with someone. Little man syndrome?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 23, 2021, 19:14:50 pm
On top for possession, shots and corners....normal service resumed on the goals front.
Come on boys!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:15:44 pm
Late Wimbledon goal to take the lead


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:15:59 pm
Wigan beating Bristol Rovers

Sees us slip to 23rd.....and Wimbledon score an 89th minute goal against Gillingham


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:16:21 pm
Lincoln level with Swindon


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:16:55 pm
Burton lead at Charlton.....


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:17:36 pm
With other scores we really need to win


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:19:06 pm
With other scores we really need to win

Massive half hour for the club and for Brady......


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:20:04 pm
Burton lead at Charlton.....

This would be Burton’s 4th win in 6 games, as things stand they are a point behind us with 2 games in hand.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:21:56 pm
Massive half hour for the club and for Brady......

I’m not sure what more Brady can do to be honest.

We’ve created chances but the players he has inherited can’t seem to kick it in that big rectangular thing.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 23, 2021, 19:22:26 pm
This would be Burton’s 4th win in 6 games, as things stand they are a point behind us with 2 games in hand.

Don’t worry JFH will sort that form out once he settles in.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest2995 on February 23, 2021, 19:22:53 pm
We entirely rely on goals from midfield and set pieces .
We might as well play with one up front or none up front like Barcelona .
Get Chuck on


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:24:05 pm
I’m not sure what more Brady can do to be honest.

We’ve created chances but the players he has inherited can’t seem to kick it in that big rectangular thing.

Oh i'm not blaming Brady, just meant that another goalless draw or even worse a defeat may perhaps spell the end of his stint......


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:27:32 pm
Dale bring their young starlet Baah on......


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 19:27:51 pm
This is looking like a bad night for results elsewhere!
We desperately need a goal from somewhere. It’s gunna be a nervy last 20 - hold on to your hats folks!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 19:28:30 pm
Dale bring their young starlet Baah on......
He's the greatest!!!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:31:24 pm
This is looking like a bad night for results elsewhere!
We desperately need a goal from somewhere. It’s gunna be a nervy last 20 - hold on to your hats folks!
I'm going for a pen awarded for a foul on Rose, if he gets on.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 23, 2021, 19:32:25 pm
Rovers and Wiggy 1-1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:33:07 pm
Should be one down


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 23, 2021, 19:33:26 pm
Dale bring their young starlet Baah on......
ive got a baahd feeling now..


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:33:42 pm
"Wiggy" are now bottom of the table...... we move up a place.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 19:34:18 pm
Rovers and Wiggy 1-1
Thank the Lord! Grange has been worried sick!!!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: sxcobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:34:23 pm
Edmundson makes the memory of Harry Smith look lethal ....can we swap ?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:37:42 pm
Thank the Lord! Grange has been worried sick!!!

Phew, I'm a worrier, make no mistake!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dr Feelgood on February 23, 2021, 19:37:51 pm
Edmeister looks like Rodney Trotter  running around out there


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 19:39:39 pm
Phew, I'm a worrier, make no mistake!
;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:39:54 pm
Have we not realised it’s blowing a gale out there yet? Keep it on the f***ing ground.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 19:41:19 pm
Shaun’s going to get sent off needs a rest.
There’s only one winner in the last 10 mins


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Baldy on February 23, 2021, 19:41:24 pm
Come on you f***ers get a f***ing goal!!!!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 19:42:17 pm
It’s pretty dreadful stuff second half.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:42:30 pm
Sunderland lead Fleetwood 2-0......that just about puts the nail in the coffin as far as our play off hopes are concerned...... ;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:43:38 pm
Anyone for a sub or 3?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:44:30 pm
Very surprised about the lack of subs


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:45:55 pm
Shaun’s going to get sent off needs a rest.
There’s only one winner in the last 10 mins

Him or Kioso battling to see who can get the red card first!!

Just been looking at McWilliams career stats..... this is his 98th appearance, he's scored one goal. 25 yellow cards and one red card. Technically a good player but his frailties are there for all to see.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:46:24 pm
We need a goal so bring on ... Sowerby!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:46:49 pm
Very surprised about the lack of subs

Hoskins for Miller at HT and now Sowerby for Watson.....


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:47:06 pm
No urgency out there. Looks like we are happy with a point.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clarity on February 23, 2021, 19:48:04 pm
Edmundson ffs... he’s got to score there didn’t bust a gut to get his toe in


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:50:01 pm
Edmundson ffs... he’s got to score there didn’t bust a gut to get his toe in

Why is he still on the pitch! Brady isn’t helping himself 


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:50:15 pm
Rico would have scored from that Kioso cross. On a plate for a proper goalscorer.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:50:28 pm
Rose for Marshall on 88 minutes.....


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:50:35 pm
Edmundson ffs... he’s got to score there didn’t bust a gut to get his toe in

He is useless. Flat footed beyond belief.



Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:51:31 pm
Rico would have scored from that Kioso cross. On a plate for a proper goalscorer.

Exactly that. He isn’t a striker so why play him there.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 19:52:11 pm
Mitchell needs a firework up his arse.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 19:52:30 pm
Edmundson ffs... he’s got to score there didn’t bust a gut to get his toe in

I reckon we’re missing something with Edmundson.
Would there be a deal with Leeds where he has to play so many minutes a game?
Maybe Bolger at number 9? Or Mellys choice for stand in forward - Watson?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:53:16 pm
Just to improve the mood!! Peterborough heading top


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Sausage Man Tribute Band on February 23, 2021, 19:53:45 pm
Hatful of Hollow


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 19:54:14 pm
Have we not realised it’s blowing a gale out there yet? Keep it on the **** ground.

Amazing. They’ve still not worked it out and we’re into the 94th minute!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:54:23 pm
0-0 FT......a big chance missed.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 19:55:27 pm
Really poor second half unfortunately it’s time for an experienced new manager.
We haven’t scored at home this year! fFS


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 23, 2021, 19:55:40 pm
Northampton Nil FC


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:57:04 pm
15 home league games played.....ELEVEN TIMES we have failed to score.....just 8 home league goals all season......absolutely shocking.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 19:57:33 pm
Really poor second half unfortunately it’s time for an experienced new manager.
We haven’t scored at home this year! fFS

It won’t matter who we get, Pep wouldn’t get goals out of these players


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:57:49 pm
Wiggy with a 95th minute winner dump us back down to 23rd.....


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 23, 2021, 19:59:16 pm
I reckon we’re missing something with Edmundson.
Would there be a deal with Leeds where he has to play so many minutes a game?
Maybe Bolger at number 9? Or Mellys choice for stand in forward - Watson?
Forget me as a pundit Jimbo, I’m absolutely sh1te at it.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 19:59:45 pm
Mitchell needs a firework up his arse.

No urgency at all. No word from Brady to tell him to hurry the f*** up either.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 20:01:00 pm
Simply not good enough 🤨


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 20:01:11 pm
It won’t matter who we get, Pep wouldn’t get goals out of these players

No but he would tell them to stop time wasting and kicking the dam thing in the air every 15 seconds. The wind was their best player in the second half and we kept giving the ball to him.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: sxcobbler on February 23, 2021, 20:04:03 pm
Is Rico fit enough to play off the bench....he can't do any worse or even a Centre Half as the Striker.

These are desperate times.

I'm afraid even tho' Brady has improved things ,the set up at the moment is nailed on relegation fodder....probably rock bottom !

Time for Change NOW !


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Athena on February 23, 2021, 20:04:58 pm
Simply not good enough. Getting to the stage now when I'm beyond caring as its getting past a joke.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: bungle on February 23, 2021, 20:05:06 pm
Really poor second half unfortunately it’s time for an experienced new manager.

This.

I like what Brady is trying to do. I enjoyed the first half. I like the interplay.

However, you have to say that we still don't really look like scoring. It's harsh, but one goal from open play in four games of Brady's tenure isn't really enough to suggest that 'the tide is turning'.

The 4-3-3 worked against MK and was decent in the first half today. However, what worried me was the lack of plan b once it was clear that Rochdale were dominating the second half when playing with the wind.

Luke Graham was excellent in the commentary and called it correctly: we should have switched to 4-4-2 with Rose and Edmondson up top. I think he was scared to sacrifice one of the central midfielders but ultimately the lack of intervention cost us the chance to win the game.  







Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clarity on February 23, 2021, 20:08:30 pm
P I S S poor recruitment .... there has to be better out there
Bolger
Hors***
BAS
Korboa
Edmundson
Rats***s - he even went back early!



Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2021, 20:08:54 pm
Lack of tactical nous, urgency and substitutions = end of the experiment. Get someone in for Saturday.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 23, 2021, 20:12:11 pm
Lack of tactical nous, urgency and substitutions = end of the experiment. Get someone in for Saturday.

+1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 20:12:50 pm
The reality seems to be we have a League 2 team playing in League One..


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: observer1 on February 23, 2021, 20:12:52 pm
Most bizarre moment was when around the 88th minute when Edmondson called for the ball in the box, Kioso delivered a near perfect ball and he just stopped dead and made no effort to connect with it. That was *the* chance. The game had late 1-0 winner written all over it, but our players didn't read the script apparently.

Failing to score in 7 of our last 8 home games rings serious alarm bells. I hate to go back to the training arrangements again but you have to wonder if training there for a while earlier in the season made playing matchdays there less special somehow? I'm clutching at straws, I know.

Strictly on form, we're starting to look a bit doomed. Picking up 1 point out of a possible 9 from consecutive home games against Wigan, Burton and Rochdale is just not good enough.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 20:14:34 pm
The reality seems to be we have a League 2 team playing in League One..

That’s the biggest problem


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 20:14:47 pm
Lack of tactical nous, urgency and substitutions = end of the experiment. Get someone in for Saturday.

Hit the nail on the head there unfortunately.

Did himself no favours tonight. I’m now not arse if he says or goes.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on February 23, 2021, 20:15:11 pm
The worst showing under JB - just when we needed a step up of performance.

If we don’t win on Saturday then I’m afraid these players will have got the Brady bunch the sack!

Time to send Edmundson home and try something different up top ...
Bolger?
Watson?
Sheehan?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on February 23, 2021, 20:16:53 pm
The reality seems to be we have a League 2 team playing in League One..
It was a team promoted through no fault of its own and then purposely unimproved over the summer


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 23, 2021, 20:17:16 pm
2 points from 12 never secures an interim anything other than the door.
Who’s next on the merry-go-round?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 20:20:39 pm
Even Tim Oglethorpe's optimism seems to be waning.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 20:21:30 pm
The Chukwuemeka situation puzzles me.

He seemingly gone from "the next big thing" touted for a move to Aston Villa, Norwich or even abroad to a bit part player who rarely features. He's only made it off the bench twice for the former youth team boss and been entrusted with a whole seven minutes football.

What's gone wrong here?  Brady came out and told of an issue with Ashley-Seal, and he's not even making the 18 now. Do we have a situation with Caleb too?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: observer1 on February 23, 2021, 20:24:01 pm
Lack of tactical nous, urgency and substitutions = end of the experiment. Get someone in for Saturday.
I am not in favour of bringing anyone else in before the summer now.

If anything another change so soon would probably just destabilise things and make our chances slightly worse. We didn't get the usual new manager bounce with Brady, unwise to think we would with anyone at this point.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest168 on February 23, 2021, 20:25:52 pm
OMG, was that supposed to be league 1 football with league 1 footballers?

KT promised some league one players in Jan, somethings never change,  1. me moaning 2. KT mega overpromising and underdelivering again and again

Can someone, anyone, please explain how the best tactic for creating chances and scoring goals when u have a throw-in half way in their half, is to throw it backwards to the full-back, who passes it back further to the centre-half, who then proceeds to hoof it back up the pitch, to a point further back from where we started with the throw-in?

That team / performance /management has to be the worst we have ever had in league 1 - thanks a lot Kelvin, great football club you have developed. You get handed a SECOND lucky promotion and this time you manage to f... it up even quicker, learning absolutely nothing from before.

While I'm on, why have we not redeveloped the running track area as a training / development area?  oh no that would be to progressive for little old Northampton


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Buster on February 23, 2021, 20:28:53 pm
I’d still stick with JB. Edmunson and Marshall both should have finished their first half chances with just the goalie to beat. You can’t blame the manager for that.  


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2021, 20:29:50 pm
You can blame him for not bringing on our biggest goal threat on until the 88th minute.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Shoemender on February 23, 2021, 20:30:04 pm
Says it all really when Smith is actually a better option than any of the so called strikers we've got left. Tonight we were at home in a game we really had to win and we were effectively playing one up front and although we had two so called wingers playing  I don't recall either of them putting a decent cross in all night. The only decent cross was put in by Edmonson who should have been the one in the box getting on the end of it, don't know why Oglethorpe kept bigging him up 'cos that was about all he did all night apart from missing yet another or 2 very good chances. I agree with Melly, try Watson up front, or even Horsefall!!!  Couldn't be any worse, certainly scored more goals than Edmonson, not hard.
 I think "The Brady Bunch" blew their big chance tonight, admittedly not helped by the players, but not helped, again, by the substitutions, I mean Sowerby. WTF.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 20:33:49 pm
You can blame him for not bringing on our biggest goal threat on until the 88th minute.
But we haven't got "a goal threat", have we??


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 20:34:32 pm
Most bizarre moment was when around the 88th minute when Edmondson called for the ball in the box, Kioso delivered a near perfect ball and he just stopped dead and made no effort to connect with it. That was *the* chance. The game had late 1-0 winner written all over it, but our players didn't read the script apparently.
That was it. Maybe if Rose had been on?
Rico made a career of hanging on the far post cleaning up chances like that. The ball was begging to be put away. I even think Kioso looked surprised at how good it was and why no one was there for it.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 20:35:21 pm
OMG, was that supposed to be league 1 football with league 1 footballers?

KT promised some league one players in Jan, somethings never change,  1. me moaning 2. KT mega overpromising and underdelivering again and again

Can someone, anyone, please explain how the best tactic for creating chances and scoring goals when u have a throw-in half way in their half, is to throw it backwards to the full-back, who passes it back further to the centre-half, who then proceeds to hoof it back up the pitch, to a point further back from where we started with the throw-in?

That team / performance /management has to be the worst we have ever had in league 1 - thanks a lot Kelvin, great football club you have developed. You get handed a SECOND lucky promotion and this time you manage to f... it up even quicker, learning absolutely nothing from before.

While I'm on, why have we not redeveloped the running track area as a training / development area?  oh no that would be to progressive for little old Northampton

KT couldn’t give a fcuk about NTFC that’s pretty obvious.
It’s pretty special to get promoted twice and get relegated the next season.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Clint on February 23, 2021, 20:36:59 pm
KT couldn’t give a fcuk about NTFC that’s pretty obvious.
+1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on February 23, 2021, 20:37:39 pm
12 months ago nobody seriously expected us to get promoted, we simply were an average league 2 side.

We just got lucky with Callum Morton.

There is a huge gulf in goal expectancy between Morton and Edmundson. If you swapped Morton for Edmundson into this side we would probably win more than lose. That's the problem with loan players, get a good one and you start to believe your a better team than you really are, and confidence breeds success. But at the end of the season you have to hand them back and you're back to square one. It's probably better from a team perspective to try and nurture your own young talent. Given enough game time maybe we could have developed Chuka, Dyche and Roberts into half decent players.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2021, 20:38:33 pm
But we haven't got "a goal threat", have we??

You at least try two forwards in a must win game for more than 2 minutes. This was every bit as bad as Curle management.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Another Pedj on February 23, 2021, 20:42:00 pm
I don't understand why he withdrew Marshall and then moved Edmondson to the right wing.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest168 on February 23, 2021, 20:42:49 pm
You at least try two forwards in a must win game for more than 2 minutes. This was every bit as bad as Curle management.

Agree but just as bad for me was only playing 1 up 1st half with the wind and constantly hoofing it forward, or trying to play fancy cross field balls in swirly strong wind, on a slippery pitch to players who ain't really footballers. or a management team happy to let players constantly, time and time again slice the ball out for a throw-in, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: west stand oap on February 23, 2021, 20:46:24 pm
You can see why both teams are at the wrong end of the table the longer the game went on the worse we got and Rochdale could not convert either of the 2 gift wrapped opportunies in the first half when our defense left 2 players unmarked at the far post. I think more of our passes went out of play than found a team mate.
My understanding of playing the ball around at the back was for us to then progress through the midfield but we usually ended up lumping it forward aimlessly, so we might as well have played it long straight away. Not much creativity again and we turned over possession far too easily.
I was surprised that we had a new player called Kiosko.
If you cannot take maximum points from any of those teams around you it does not bode well. Perhaps we will surprise everbody with wins at Hull, Peterborough, Doncaster and Charlton and then maintain our division 1 status with a last day victory at Sunderland. Oh well we can but dream.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 23, 2021, 20:49:23 pm
Hatful of Hollow

 ;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Mysterious Curle on February 23, 2021, 20:49:36 pm
I don't understand why he withdrew Marshall and then moved Edmondson to the right wing.

I assume like the rest of us Brady is trying to figure out what Edmondson actually is...


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 21:14:11 pm
Well, pick the bones out of Brady's post match interview.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/february/16_2021_h_reaction/?fbclid=IwAR3osbxObCVfWbz64vNXgvqgA-msGR9CV2PvuV-6giJWFdJU9GJign4Dcl4

They took a risk with Miller and had decided pre-game to only play him for 45 minutes as any more and his hamstring might have gone??

They managed the game well at the end to make sure we got a point.

Ryan Edmondson led the line really well.

Wow!!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Shoemender on February 23, 2021, 21:17:00 pm
I think he's lost the plot already, after only 4 games. Paul Cook in.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 23, 2021, 21:17:59 pm
Well, pick the bones out of Brady's post match interview.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/february/16_2021_h_reaction/?fbclid=IwAR3osbxObCVfWbz64vNXgvqgA-msGR9CV2PvuV-6giJWFdJU9GJign4Dcl4

They took a risk with Miller and had decided pre-game to only play him for 45 minutes as any more and his hamstring might have gone??

They managed the game well at the end to make sure we got a point.

Ryan Edmondson led the line really well.

Wow!!
Well, the post seems sarcastic, but that first point seems like it's pretty sensible and obvious? Miller was never going to play 90, he'd only played 20 minutes in the match before.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 23, 2021, 21:19:00 pm
If this had been an external appointment and this is what had happened there would be uproar. Don't be clouded by sentiment.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 23, 2021, 21:26:11 pm
Some food for thought

https://twitter.com/xG_data/status/1364327120151998467/photo/3

Also, not questioning anyones opinions on here if they are fed up and want a new head in right now, but it certainly suggests that we've been somewhat unlucky again tonight, and it's finishing our chances which is killing us.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Shoemender on February 23, 2021, 21:31:45 pm
Don't know what all that technical data bollocks is all about, but it's certainly not down to luck. It's down to not having any decent strikers at the club and half the time not being able to kick the ball accurately.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest2995 on February 23, 2021, 21:33:33 pm
Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 23, 2021, 21:34:36 pm
Genuine question, does anyone think the management team are getting the best out of this squad? Edmondson is a young player who has had the confidence ground out of him. I’m sure he has potential but at the moment that’s not enough for me he would currently be my third choice striker at least. That aside I believe Brady is getting the best out of this squad myself? What we are seeing is a result of the decision making that took place in response to the pandemic in the summer. Currently 3 players short of guaranteed safety IMO. That’s striker, midfield general and centre half of similar standing to Sheehan? Our fate was probably sealed sometime last July when other league one clubs seemingly took the decision to continue spending and comparatively we didn’t? I know KT is getting a hammering but his revelation that they are going to lose 3 million this season can’t be ignored can it?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 21:39:41 pm
Well, the post seems sarcastic, but that first point seems like it's pretty sensible and obvious? Miller was never going to play 90, he'd only played 20 minutes in the match before.
Not sure if you heard the interview but Bradys full point was that he wasnt allowed to play Miller for more than 45 minutes, and that things had changed from the days when being fit meant being fit (and therefore able to play the full 90 mins).
Physiologically, I dont understand why if his hamstring is healed he would be at more risk of pulling it again if he played beyond 45 minutes. I would have thought there's less chance of tearing a hamstring as the game progresses and you tire and slow.
The other one was that Dale only had one clear chance to our six. Questionable I'd say.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 23, 2021, 21:42:51 pm
Not sure if you heard the interview but Bradys full point was that he wasnt allowed to play Miller for more than 45 minutes, and that things had changed from the days when being fit meant being fit (and therefore able to play the full 90 mins).
Physiologically, I dont understand why if his hamstring is healed he would be at more risk of pulling it again if he played beyond 45 minutes. I would have thought there's less chance of tearing a hamstring as the game progresses and you tire and slow.
The other one was that Dale only had one clear chance to our six. Questionable I'd say.


Yes think they had at least three clear-ish chances?

It was a poor game though and I drifted off a couple of times!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 21:47:49 pm
Genuine question, does anyone think the management team are getting the best out of this squad? Edmondson is a young player who has had the confidence ground out of him. I’m sure he has potential but at the moment that’s not enough for me he would currently be my third choice striker at least. That aside I believe Brady is getting the best out of this squad myself? What we are seeing is a result of the decision making that took place in response to the pandemic in the summer. Currently 3 players short of guaranteed safety IMO. That’s striker, midfield general and centre half of similar standing to Sheehan? Our fate was probably sealed sometime last July when other league one clubs seemingly took the decision to continue spending and comparatively we didn’t? I know KT is getting a hammering but his revelation that they are going to lose 3 million this season can’t be ignored can it?

He said income would be down £3m, he didn't mention the increased solidarity money, the increased TV deal money, the income from IFollow, the wage budget cut, the savings on matchday costs and he certainly didn't mention the £1m windfall from the sale of Charlie Goode.

If we really are going to "lose" £3m this year then perhaps he needs to take a bigger look at the whole business model and his part in it. Also, he says it like we are the only ones in that boat. Stands to reason that every club is going to lose money, however some have speculated and may actually end up losing more money as a result, others have speculated and will lose less than they might have done. We just played it straight down the middle.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 21:49:25 pm
Genuine question, does anyone think the management team are getting the best out of this squad? Edmondson is a young player who has had the confidence ground out of him. I’m sure he has potential but at the moment that’s not enough for me he would currently be my third choice striker at least. That aside I believe Brady is getting the best out of this squad myself? What we are seeing is a result of the decision making that took place in response to the pandemic in the summer. Currently 3 players short of guaranteed safety IMO. That’s striker, midfield general and centre half of similar standing to Sheehan? Our fate was probably sealed sometime last July when other league one clubs seemingly took the decision to continue spending and comparatively we didn’t? I know KT is getting a hammering but his revelation that they are going to lose 3 million this season can’t be ignored can it?
Probably not the best, but theyve had precious little time. Curle had months and didnt get as much out of them as Brady is.
Unfortunately if we want to make a fist of what's left of the season time is not something we have a lot of.
Do we write the season off and give Brady the job until the summer or do we employ a manager with a track record? If it's the later what happens if he takes over and this season gets no better or gets worse? Thats not really going to set us up very well for August.
If I were KT I'd be tempted to stick with Brady and re assess in the summer.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 23, 2021, 21:50:23 pm
He said income would be down £3m, he didn't mention the increased solidarity money, the increased TV deal money, the income from IFollow, the wage budget cut, the savings on matchday costs and he certainly didn't mention the £1m windfall from the sale of Charlie Goode.

If we really are going to "lose" £3m this year then perhaps he needs to take a bigger look at the whole business model and his part in it. Also, he says it like we are the only ones in that boat. Stands to reason that every club is going to lose money, however some have speculated and may actually end up losing more money as a result, others have speculated and will lose less than they might have done. We just played it straight down the middle.

We've got no money. Never have done and never will do. Even when we thought we did, it was too good to be true.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 21:51:49 pm
Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all
I really want the Brady Bunch to be successful but tonight, second half was really poor.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 23, 2021, 21:56:05 pm
KT waited too long to make the change.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 23, 2021, 21:57:35 pm
I really want the Brady Bunch to be successful but tonight, second half was really poor.

What was poor was they didnt know how to play the wind. Dale were much better at that in both halves.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 23, 2021, 22:00:22 pm
He said income would be down £3m, he didn't mention the increased solidarity money, the increased TV deal money, the income from IFollow, the wage budget cut, the savings on matchday costs and he certainly didn't mention the £1m windfall from the sale of Charlie Goode.

If we really are going to "lose" £3m this year then perhaps he needs to take a bigger look at the whole business model and his part in it. Also, he says it like we are the only ones in that boat. Stands to reason that every club is going to lose money, however some have speculated and may actually end up losing more money as a result, others have speculated and will lose less than they might have done. We just played it straight down the middle.
Spot on it’s about time people wised up to Thomas, we can’t keep going through managers at some point you’ve got to look at the man at the top, his commitment, his level of backing and his motives for being here.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 22:01:46 pm
We were done a long time ago, this squad has no goals in it. None of the players goal totals this season has been a particular surprise for me


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 22:07:11 pm
Probably not the best, but theyve had precious little time. Curle had months and didnt get as much out of them as Brady is.
Unfortunately if we want to make a fist of what's left of the season time is not something we have a lot of.
Do we write the season off and give Brady the job until the summer or do we employ a manager with a track record? If it's the later what happens if he takes over and this season gets no better or gets worse? Thats not really going to set us up very well for August.
If I were KT I'd be tempted to stick with Brady and re assess in the summer.


I don't know if "writing the season off" is a bit extreme at this stage. It looks like, and it has for a while that four from seven teams will go down, we are one of the seven and the other six are not pulling up any trees. Its actually bottom club Burton who are the form side of the seven, but coming from a long way back they're still down there at the moment.

With 16 games to go its a bit early to say that we're going down, because we are still at the point where one win gets us back out of the bottom four. What I guess i'm trying to say is that KT probably doesn't see the urgency of the situation yet. His overriding reason for getting shot of Curle seemed to be the fact we weren't scoring goals and were providing pretty much zero entertainment. This after giving him what the club said was a decent budget to work with in January.

Brady has not been afforded such luxuries yet, although longer term i'd worry that he was the right man to "manage" a football club......"coach" a football team yes, but manage a football club? Not so sure.

I just don't see what options there are out there. As i've said earlier I don't think that the untried inexperienced non-league option is the right way forward, so that leaves us with an old head type of manager to bring in until the end of the season and keep us up.....if KT is really bothered about keeping us up.

Significant investment will be needed if we stay up, and weigh that up against big losses this season and a large chunk of next seasons season ticket income needing to be discounted and wiped off to reward the loyalty of fans this season.

If you were (our) chairman what would you do? Approach the money man for yet another wad of cash and hope to remain in this division, or go down and cut budgets, take stock and bring the land sales and redevelopment a year nearer?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Shoemender on February 23, 2021, 22:07:28 pm
Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all


So; Do you think we played well tonight?
Do you think Brady can keep us up?
Have we got any decent strikers?
Were any of  the substitutions sensible or make a difference?
Do you think playing 1 up front at home in a game we must win is a good idea?
Do you think Edmonson led the line well?
Do you think it's good enough to be pleased with a point at home to Rochdale?
As I said earlier, this was the Brady bunches big chance tonight and he/they blew it. I suppose a point is better than none, but with
games at Hull, Peterborough, Sunderland etc coming up we have to win games against teams around us and we've failed to beat any of the last 3 we've played or scored against any of them.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on February 23, 2021, 22:12:15 pm
We were done a long time ago, this squad has no goals in it. None of the players goal totals this season has been a particular surprise for me

Quite staggering that the player with the best minutes per goal ratio for us in the league this season is Chris Lines!! Second to him is Matt Warburton.

Doesn't say much about the rest of them does it?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 22:14:25 pm
Spot on it’s about time people wised up to Thomas, we can’t keep going through managers at some point you’ve got to look at the man at the top, his commitment, his level of backing and his motives for being here.

What football league club doesn’t go through managers? there can’t be many. I don’t particularly have any feeling about KT but I’ve seen nothing to suggest he supports managers comparative to the size and revenues of the club noticeably less than most other teams. Only he knows his motives but it’s safe to say anyone with any business knowledge and wanting to make money would have been insane to invest in Northampton Town.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 23, 2021, 22:17:15 pm
It’s amazing how quickly a 4-3-3 becomes a 4-5-1 when you want to knock the manager for not being attacking enough.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 23, 2021, 22:28:14 pm
Must admit after the performance against MK I thought there might have been some more football and certainly more goal mouth action. It was in the end a bore draw. It least we did not lose and a win on Saturday might still propel us up the league :o I don't think we played badly;  Rochdale looked no better than us. Surprised that Rose did not come on until near the match end. TBH thought that the tactics and display were very reminiscent of Curles displays. Can we survive? Thanks to the 6/7 teams fellow stragglers we are not yet cast adrift. I think the secret of survival is hard work, determination and the will to survive; not too much fancy dan football as we simply have not got the players to play in that manner! There is enough talent - albeit on the moderate side to fight our way out of trouble. Also some of the fans need to hold their cool and nerve - Snowflakes may not enjoy the ride!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 23, 2021, 22:35:38 pm
Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all

Have a suspicion that your personal Brady and Co Bubble may have gone awol tonight!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 23, 2021, 22:42:54 pm
Well, pick the bones out of Brady's post match interview.....

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/february/16_2021_h_reaction/?fbclid=IwAR3osbxObCVfWbz64vNXgvqgA-msGR9CV2PvuV-6giJWFdJU9GJign4Dcl4

They took a risk with Miller and had decided pre-game to only play him for 45 minutes as any more and his hamstring might have gone??

They managed the game well at the end to make sure we got a point.

Ryan Edmondson led the line really well.

Wow!!

Ryan Edmondson led the line really well.... I thought so too; not a lot up their with him!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 23, 2021, 23:23:40 pm
He said income would be down £3m, he didn't mention the increased solidarity money, the increased TV deal money, the income from IFollow, the wage budget cut, the savings on matchday costs and he certainly didn't mention the £1m windfall from the sale of Charlie Goode.

If we really are going to "lose" £3m this year then perhaps he needs to take a bigger look at the whole business model and his part in it. Also, he says it like we are the only ones in that boat. Stands to reason that every club is going to lose money, however some have speculated and may actually end up losing more money as a result, others have speculated and will lose less than they might have done. We just played it straight down the middle.
Well that’s the question isn’t it GPC, what is the business model? IMO there isn’t one and never was, at least a sensible one anyway? It looks like an expensive hobby to me? If it’s make money off a land deal that may or may not come to fruition involving a burnt council in the middle of a fraud investigation whilst pumping millions in over 5 or 6 years it’s rubbish? On a separate note, if you’re battening down the hatches due to Covid then batten them down and take the hit? This has now gone down the middle as you say which is again rubbish? TBF I’m looking at it with limited access to the information but the decision making generally from the top has been generally, er, rubbish? Where I would disagree with people is that I personally think there has been commitment and backing, just not a lot of decent decision making?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: observer1 on February 23, 2021, 23:48:44 pm
TBH thought that the tactics and display were very reminiscent of Curles displays.
Oh come on. I understand the temptation to overreact because it's yet another game without a win and yet another game where we haven't scored, but nobody could legitimately argue we don't (already) look a better footballing outfit under Brady.

It wasn't a great game tonight; a combination of the pitch, the conditions and some inevitable hangover from Saturday's game. And there were still some gaping holes in our defense at times, which need fixing asap if we are to stand any chance at all. But let's have it right to quote our old friend Buchs, we moved the ball better and more purposefully than we had done all season under Curle. And whilst the execution wasn't there, you could at least see the method behind what we were trying to do for the most part. Players were in positions they were happy and comfortable and weren't running round like headless chickens trying to get on the end of endless aerial balls.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3419 on February 24, 2021, 04:43:49 am
Can we have more realism in the posts.

Paul Cook would not come to Northampton. He interested Cardiff and will end up somewhere like Ipswich.

The clamour for 4 goal Rose to come on earlier.....do you think he would be a major difference?......he has not yet!

The Brady bunch have improved the football of the team and could, with a bit more fortune, had better results BUT there is only so much polishing of the t+rd a manager can do!

Yes critisize KT's errors but nobody has a sustainable alternative. He has financed a form of continuity. If somebody was interested in buying the club they have had enough years to have stepped forward.

One thing KT MUST do before he asks for season ticket money is to layout what  plans he has, after April 1st, with the new West Northamptonshire Council.
Cobblers fans have been amazingly patient and deserve to be included in the future plans for NTFC.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest2995 on February 24, 2021, 05:36:27 am
Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all.


So; Do you think we played well tonight?
Do you think Brady can keep us up?
Have we got any decent strikers?
Were any of  the substitutions sensible or make a difference?
Do you think playing 1 up front at home in a game we must win is a good idea?
Do you think Edmonson led the line well?
Do you think it's good enough to be pleased with a point at home to Rochdale?
As I said earlier, this was the Brady bunches big chance tonight and he/they blew it. I suppose a point is better than none, but with
games at Hull, Peterborough, Sunderland etc coming up we have to win games against teams around us and we've failed to beat any of the last 3 we've played or scored against any of them.

And to repeat ...
plenty of Captain Cluelesses on here that have absolutely no alternatives to suggest in how to do things differently except errrrrr “ play Rose “ .... errrrr “ don’t bring on hoskins “ ..... err “ play 3 up front and see if they might get a goal and double their tally for the season”  .... errr “ put rico on “
What exactly do you want the management team to do differently with this squad that is going to make a difference ? They are trying everything they can .
They are playing the best team available in the pitch , installing confidence and creating chances .
Was there anything you might have picked up doing your UEFA licences they have missed ?
i will let you and the others have a little think and then put it on a postcard addressed to Sixfields .

 


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: BackOfTheNet on February 24, 2021, 06:31:50 am
I'm still in favour of giving Brady the job. Not to make excuses for him but the wind ruined the game as a spectacle last night (and yes, it did effect both sides). Rochdale struggled playing against it in the first half and we struggled against it in the second half.

There's a certain irony that a Curle team would probably have fared better in last night's match because their gameplan didn't involve trying to pass the ball to each other anyway!!

I would say we didn't adapt well enough to the conditions in the second half, particularly when kicking out from the back though.  I do think it's odd though that some people were criticising the game management against MK when making changes to chase the win left us exposed when trying to hang onto the lead once we had it but now Brady is being criticised for being too conservative at the end. I know it's annoying when we don't win but I think there's a learning curve there that we have to make allowances for.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 24, 2021, 06:37:32 am
And to repeat ...
plenty of Captain Cluelesses on here that have absolutely no alternatives to suggest in how to do things differently except errrrrr “ play Rose “ .... errrrr “ don’t bring on hoskins “ ..... err “ play 3 up front and see if they might get a goal and double their tally for the season”  .... errr “ put rico on “
What exactly do you want the management team to do differently with this squad that is going to make a difference ? They are trying everything they can .
They are playing the best team available in the pitch , installing confidence and creating chances .
Was there anything you might have picked up doing your UEFA licences they have missed ?
i will let you and the others have a little think and then put it on a postcard addressed to Sixfields .
 

If everyone knew what they were talking about, we wouldn't have a message board... ;) ;D


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 24, 2021, 07:15:21 am
I'm absolutely amazed that so many people are backing Brady so much.

We've been here before! Talk about a football club going in cycles, the fan base does too.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 24, 2021, 07:28:32 am
And to repeat ...
plenty of Captain Cluelesses on here that have absolutely no alternatives to suggest in how to do things differently except errrrrr “ play Rose “ .... errrrr “ don’t bring on hoskins “ ..... err “ play 3 up front and see if they might get a goal and double their tally for the season”  .... errr “ put rico on “
What exactly do you want the management team to do differently with this squad that is going to make a difference ? They are trying everything they can .
They are playing the best team available in the pitch , installing confidence and creating chances .
Was there anything you might have picked up doing your UEFA licences they have missed ?
i will let you and the others have a little think and then put it on a postcard addressed to Sixfields .

 

Curle managed to scrape 24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 12....both comfortably taking us towards the drop.
Something has to change because if it doesn't before the end of the season, we go down and keep Brady then they won't need to worry about opening the ground again.
Can't see KT opening his cheque book again for anyone who isn't capable of keeping this team in league one. It's almost as though people are suggesting that Curle was over performing with the players he'd assembled if they are that bad! If the climate was different I'm sure Brady would have gone already.
The biggest straw to cling to is that we muster a win, it massively boosts confidence and we go on a mini run.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 24, 2021, 07:40:29 am
Can we have more realism in the posts.

Paul Cook would not come to Northampton. He interested Cardiff and will end up somewhere like Ipswich.

The clamour for 4 goal Rose to come on earlier.....do you think he would be a major difference?......he has not yet!

The Brady bunch have improved the football of the team and could, with a bit more fortune, had better results BUT there is only so much polishing of the t+rd a manager can do!

Yes critisize KT's errors but nobody has a sustainable alternative. He has financed a form of continuity. If somebody was interested in buying the club they have had enough years to have stepped forward.

One thing KT MUST do before he asks for season ticket money is to layout what  plans he has, after April 1st, with the new West Northamptonshire Council.
Cobblers fans have been amazingly patient and deserve to be included in the future plans for NTFC.

+1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: threeinabed on February 24, 2021, 07:46:43 am
we had a mid table league 2 team in a terrible run of form, that by default snuck into the play offs - we were superb in 2 games and got promoted - we simply weren't prepared for it.

our strength was our back 3 - which hasn't been replaced - KC's 1st 2 choices currently aren't in the team.

we have no creative midfielders and no proven goalscorers in the squad - the recruitment was terrible from the off this season, and then again in january - whether that is down to KC, budget or both, who knows!?!?

either way, we have improved our style of play under brady, but we have failed to score in 3 of those 4 games, with only 1 goal from open play - there is nothing in this squad that would threaten any other team in the league - we just wont score enough goals with the attacking players we have.

which sadly, means we will go down - so it doesnt matter if its brady or anyone else.

they either somehow get lucky with an out of contract striker or 2 - or they throw the young guns in and hope for the best.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 24, 2021, 07:55:59 am


our strength was our back 3 - which hasn't been replaced


We also managed to bring in a great striker on loan which also helped bring out the best in the other, as well as being so threatening on set pieces.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: rebelspawn on February 24, 2021, 08:37:08 am
Curle managed to scrape 24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 12....both comfortably taking us towards the drop.
Something has to change because if it doesn't before the end of the season, we go down and keep Brady then they won't need to worry about opening the ground again.
Can't see KT opening his cheque book again for anyone who isn't capable of keeping this team in league one. It's almost as though people are suggesting that Curle was over performing with the players he'd assembled if they are that bad! If the climate was different I'm sure Brady would have gone already.
The biggest straw to cling to is that we muster a win, it massively boosts confidence and we go on a mini run.

Its amazing to me how people will manipulate statistics to prove a pre-determined point or make them look better/worse. You can't switch between points and games when trying to compare performance. it should be:

24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 4 games
or
24 points from 78 Points....Brady 2 from 12 points


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: rebelspawn on February 24, 2021, 08:38:53 am
Quite staggering that the player with the best minutes per goal ratio for us in the league this season is Chris Lines!! Second to him is Matt Warburton.

Doesn't say much about the rest of them does it?

I think that says more about the relevance of sample sizes in statistics to be fair


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest2995 on February 24, 2021, 08:53:28 am
Curle managed to scrape 24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 12....both comfortably taking us towards the drop.
Something has to change because if it doesn't before the end of the season, we go down and keep Brady then they won't need to worry about opening the ground again.
Can't see KT opening his cheque book again for anyone who isn't capable of keeping this team in league one. It's almost as though people are suggesting that Curle was over performing with the players he'd assembled if they are that bad! If the climate was different I'm sure Brady would have gone already.
The biggest straw to cling to is that we muster a win, it massively boosts confidence and we go on a mini run.

hang on a minute .... they are Curle’s players that he had been working with and supposedly developing over the whole of his tenure!
JB has had them nearly two weeks and didn’t choose any of them as his players to fit his philosophy .
Give JB 26 games with some of his own players and then do your comparison .


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Carton Lid on February 24, 2021, 09:05:00 am


Yes critisize KT's errors but nobody has a sustainable alternative. He has financed a form of continuity. If somebody was interested in buying the club they have had enough years to have stepped forward.

One thing KT MUST do before he asks for season ticket money is to layout what  plans he has, after April 1st, with the new West Northamptonshire Council.
Cobblers fans have been amazingly patient and deserve to be included in the future plans for NTFC.
KT could have sold the club numerous times if he asked a sensible price for it, no one will pay £3M for a club with no assets . Also the Cobblers fans never have and never will be included in KT's future plans for NTFC.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Shoemender on February 24, 2021, 09:06:00 am
Quote from: Shoemender on Yesterday at 23:07:28

Lots of huffing and puffing on here from various Captain Clueless candidates but i haven’t read one comment that suggests anything sensible done anything differently .
Players didn’t take their chances - not the manager’s fault .
He has changed the formation ; he has installed confidence and belief ; he has enabled the team to create chances ; he has played largely entertaining football ; he has played round pegs in round holes ; he has picked sides most would agree with ...,
Ok maybe the 4 goal this season man Rose should have come on earlier and seen if he could do what he has failed to do since he got here or tonight might have been the night Chuck showed what his dad thinks is brilliant about him .... but i doubt it .
Let’s hear one suggestion from keyboard Peps that would have changed things beyond doubt .
Or maybe i won’t wait up after all.


So; Do you think we played well tonight?
Do you think Brady can keep us up?
Have we got any decent strikers?
Were any of  the substitutions sensible or make a difference?
Do you think playing 1 up front at home in a game we must win is a good idea?
Do you think Edmonson led the line well?
Do you think it's good enough to be pleased with a point at home to Rochdale?
As I said earlier, this was the Brady bunches big chance tonight and he/they blew it. I suppose a point is better than none, but with
games at Hull, Peterborough, Sunderland etc coming up we have to win games against teams around us and we've failed to beat any of the last 3 we've played or scored against any of them.


And to repeat ...
plenty of Captain Cluelesses on here that have absolutely no alternatives to suggest in how to do things differently except errrrrr “ play Rose “ .... errrrr “ don’t bring on hoskins “ ..... err “ play 3 up front and see if they might get a goal and double their tally for the season”  .... errr “ put rico on “
What exactly do you want the management team to do differently with this squad that is going to make a difference ? They are trying everything they can .
They are playing the best team available in the pitch , installing confidence and creating chances .
Was there anything you might have picked up doing your UEFA licences they have missed ?
i will let you and the others have a little think and then put it on a postcard addressed to Sixfields



You need to get off yours/Bradys high horse. Are you related to or mates with him?
Since when do you need UEFA coaching f badges to post opinions, facts, questions on a message board?
I would love "The Brady Bunch" to succeed but time is running out. I don't know who would be the best choice,
nobody does, my choice would be Paul Cook, but I can't realistically imagine him coming here, but we need
someone who can polish the turd a lot better than it's being polished at the moment.Although I agree there has
 been a marked  improvement of late, results haven't changed and the fact that we've scored 4 goals all year, none at
home,,suggests to me we have serious problems.
P.S. You didn't answer any of my questions.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 24, 2021, 10:00:37 am
hang on a minute .... they are Curle’s players that he had been working with and supposedly developing over the whole of his tenure!
JB has had them nearly two weeks and didn’t choose any of them as his players to fit his philosophy .
Give JB 26 games with some of his own players and then do your comparison .

It doesn't matter how the stats are spun and manipulated, neither KC or JB have good ones. Like it or not, JB isn't going to get "his own players", nor will any manager coming in any time soon. If JB didn't think they were he wouldn't have stepped into the role, you'd be on a hiding to nothing.
I don't buy it that the current crop aren't capable of staying up. Like I said, hopefully we get that win and go on a run. 


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: OCoole on February 24, 2021, 10:26:07 am
The best chance we have of staying up is with Jon Brady.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 24, 2021, 10:26:16 am
KT could have sold the club numerous times if he asked a sensible price for it, no one will pay £3M for a club with no assets . Also the Cobblers fans never have and never will be included in KT's future plans for NTFC.
I find it unbelievable that the fan base of our club still think he “saved us”and therefore should never be questioned.
The guy is a chancer and fair play to him, he saw an opportunity to make serious money and still might do BUT don’t think for one second he gives two shytes about the club, he will be on his bike before the ink is dry
There are people out there interested in acquiring the club but not at the asking price currently.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 24, 2021, 10:36:51 am
I don't know if "writing the season off" is a bit extreme at this stage. It looks like, and it has for a while that four from seven teams will go down, we are one of the seven and the other six are not pulling up any trees. Its actually bottom club Burton who are the form side of the seven, but coming from a long way back they're still down there at the moment.

With 16 games to go its a bit early to say that we're going down, because we are still at the point where one win gets us back out of the bottom four. What I guess i'm trying to say is that KT probably doesn't see the urgency of the situation yet. His overriding reason for getting shot of Curle seemed to be the fact we weren't scoring goals and were providing pretty much zero entertainment. This after giving him what the club said was a decent budget to work with in January.

Brady has not been afforded such luxuries yet, although longer term i'd worry that he was the right man to "manage" a football club......"coach" a football team yes, but manage a football club? Not so sure.

I just don't see what options there are out there. As i've said earlier I don't think that the untried inexperienced non-league option is the right way forward, so that leaves us with an old head type of manager to bring in until the end of the season and keep us up.....if KT is really bothered about keeping us up.

Significant investment will be needed if we stay up, and weigh that up against big losses this season and a large chunk of next seasons season ticket income needing to be discounted and wiped off to reward the loyalty of fans this season.

If you were (our) chairman what would you do? Approach the money man for yet another wad of cash and hope to remain in this division, or go down and cut budgets, take stock and bring the land sales and redevelopment a year nearer?
Perhaps writing the season off was the wrong phrase GPC. In KT's shoes I would still be saying the right things (when hasnt he?) but I would be preparing for league 2. I wouldn't be getting another manager in until the summer at the earliest. I wouldn't be spending loads on out of contract punts either. I'd be asking Brady to do as best he can and hoping he can turn it around. As others have said, we are playing much better now Curle has gone and creating chances. I dont think the situation is the same as under Austin, from what I can remember then we played prettier football but didnt create the chances we have done in the last 4 games. Brady is also clearly a more thoughtful guy than Austin.  
In some respects, if Brady does what we all want and keeps us up KT's choice doesnt get any easier. He then needs to decide if he gives a proven manager a clear start and a chance to get his own players in or trust Brady to do it again. If Brady fails I think less people will have a problem whatever KT does in the summer. I'm also not too sure how bothered he really is about which division we are in so long as we remain in the league. The business plan that Melbourne queries that sucked the money man in was the land so far as I can tell. No less or more. Ive said before we shouldn't underestimate the sellers position in that deal either.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 24, 2021, 10:47:53 am
Perhaps writing the season off was the wrong phrase GPC. In KT's shoes I would still be saying the right things (when hasnt he?) but I would be preparing for league 2. I wouldn't be getting another manager in until the summer at the earliest. I wouldn't be spending loads on out of contract punts either. I'd be asking Brady to do as best he can and hoping he can turn it around. As others have said, we are playing much better now Curle has gone and creating chances. I dont think the situation is the same as under Austin, from what I can remember then we played prettier football but didnt create the chances we have done in the last 4 games. Brady is also clearly a more thoughtful guy than Austin.  
In some respects, if Brady does what we all want and keeps us up KT's choice doesnt get any easier. He then needs to decide if he gives a proven manager a clear start and a chance to get his own players in or trust Brady to do it again. If Brady fails I think less people will have a problem whatever KT does in the summer. I'm also not too sure how bothered he really is about which division we are in so long as we remain in the league. The business plan that Melbourne queries that sucked the money man in was the land so far as I can tell. No less or more. Ive said before we shouldn't underestimate the sellers position in that deal either.
No there’s a difference between Austin and Brady, Austin actually managed to win 2 games.
As caretaker Austin had a 40% win rate from his 5 games. P 5 W2 D1 L2 Pts 7.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest49 on February 24, 2021, 11:15:18 am
Its amazing to me how people will manipulate statistics to prove a pre-determined point or make them look better/worse. You can't switch between points and games when trying to compare performance. it should be:

24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 4 games
or
24 points from 78 Points....Brady 2 from 12 points

Apologies if you assumed that was my intention, it certainly wasn’t and neither manager have produced stats to put on their CV. I’ll let Marvo do the stat manipulation.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 24, 2021, 11:46:43 am
Oh come on. I understand the temptation to overreact because it's yet another game without a win and yet another game where we haven't scored, but nobody could legitimately argue we don't (already) look a better footballing outfit under Brady.

It wasn't a great game tonight; a combination of the pitch, the conditions and some inevitable hangover from Saturday's game. And there were still some gaping holes in our defense at times, which need fixing asap if we are to stand any chance at all. But let's have it right to quote our old friend Buchs, we moved the ball better and more purposefully than we had done all season under Curle. And whilst the execution wasn't there, you could at least see the method behind what we were trying to do for the most part. Players were in positions they were happy and comfortable and weren't running round like headless chickens trying to get on the end of endless aerial balls.

 :D  I did say reminiscent of Curles tactics as it was a boring and poor game with debatable subs and only one on top. Granted we were not hoofing it as much! 8)


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3338 on February 24, 2021, 11:53:03 am
No there’s a difference between Austin and Brady, Austin actually managed to win 2 games.
As caretaker Austin had a 40% win rate from his 5 games. P 5 W2 D1 L2 Pts 7.
Correct. KT gave him the job on the strength of that and look where it got him.
If Brady gets it until season end and he hasnt improved results wise significantly, it's a no brainer, someone else gets the job. No compo, no hassle. If it can be agreed Brady returns to the juniors and someone else jumps in the hotseat with the summer to screw more money out of Bower and Thomas to bring his own men in whilst talking up our chances of promotion back to league one.
And so it continues.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Manwork04 on February 24, 2021, 12:39:44 pm
Correct. KT gave him the job on the strength of that and look where it got him.
If Brady gets it until season end and he hasnt improved results wise significantly, it's a no brainer, someone else gets the job. No compo, no hassle. If it can be agreed Brady returns to the juniors and someone else jumps in the hotseat with the summer to screw more money out of Bower and Thomas to bring his own men in whilst talking up our chances of promotion back to league one.
And so it continues.

I was all for Brady but last night really pit me off, that was without doubt our best team starting that game and the second half was as dire as anything we’ve seen this season.
The interview afterwards was full of the same old sound bites and I have to say excuses, the pitch weather etc.
I like JB I really do and I happen to think he’s a very good coach but manager I’m not so sure.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Coolcat on February 24, 2021, 12:46:30 pm
I was all for Brady but last night really pit me off, that was without doubt our best team starting that game and the second half was as dire as anything we’ve seen this season.
The interview afterwards was full of the same old sound bites and I have to say excuses, the pitch weather etc.
I like JB I really do and I happen to think he’s a very good coach but manager I’m not so sure.
Conditions played in our favour first half, very much against in the second half, but yes, so hard to fathom JB's (Sammo and Rico too?) indecision in putting Rose on until the 87th minute begs questions!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Carton Lid on February 24, 2021, 13:23:05 pm
I was all for Brady but last night really pit me off, that was without doubt our best team starting that game and the second half was as dire as anything we’ve seen this season.

Come on Manny, you only have to think back to the Wigan game for 2 worse half's, at least last night their keeper had to make a couple of saves and the defenders get in some blocks in, I don't think we would have scored against Wigan even if half their players went off for a cup of tea ! 


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on February 24, 2021, 13:30:00 pm
Is a new manager significantly more likely to keep us up than JB, with the same set of players? Surely that is the key question. I'd suggest the answer is no and that there isn't really time to impose a 3rd manager's set of ideas about how to play in the same season - and will it make any difference given he'll be working with the same set of players? We don't have an out-and-out goalscorer. Is a new manager going to change that? Not this season, and that's the point. JB has improved the football and not had much luck so far. He may be willing to take the mantle for the rest of the season and then the club can make a decision. If we take on a new manager now and he takes us down we'll have yet another manager on a 2 or more year contract who we may not want long-term. Where's the sense in that?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3419 on February 24, 2021, 13:47:33 pm
+1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Charlatan on February 24, 2021, 13:52:53 pm
Is a new manager significantly more likely to keep us up than JB, with the same set of players? Surely that is the key question. I'd suggest the answer is no and that there isn't really time to impose a 3rd manager's set of ideas about how to play in the same season - and will it make any difference given he'll be working with the same set of players? We don't have an out-and-out goalscorer. Is a new manager going to change that? Not this season, and that's the point. JB has improved the football and not had much luck so far. He may be willing to take the mantle for the rest of the season and then the club can make a decision. If we take on a new manager now and he takes us down we'll have yet another manager on a 2 or more year contract who we may not want long-term. Where's the sense in that?
+1


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 24, 2021, 16:41:49 pm
The world has gone crazy.

Look at the results!

Who could do better blah blah like Brady is f***ing Pep Guardiola.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: everbrite on February 24, 2021, 17:02:09 pm
I'm absolutely amazed that so many people are backing Brady so much.

We've been here before! Talk about a football club going in cycles, the fan base does too.

+  am amazed how many are supporting JB who has no direct experience of managing an EFL Club. Is this a case of looking through emotive claret/rose tinted glasses?  I desperately hoped that JB would claim a win last night. Unable to fully back JB until he gets a win....now Swindon is a last call?


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Welly Cobb on February 24, 2021, 17:14:05 pm
Is there people out there who could do better than Brady? Undoubetely, hes not Alex Ferguson. Do the stats suggest we've been unlucky with the points total we've taken? Yes, other than the Burton game we've created the better chances in each, so it does feel harsh to want him out. That said, if we're going to be wowed with an amazing replacement I wont begrudge it. I just really don't want to go back to us kicking the ball over everyones head every game.

I do think that going almost two months without a win is making everyone a little bit more tense than usual here.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 24, 2021, 17:23:40 pm
In 3 of his 4 games we haven't scored.

I just think there could be more balance with some views and to suggest nobody else could do better is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Winslow Lee on February 24, 2021, 17:32:41 pm
In 3 of his 4 games we haven't scored.

I just think there could be more balance with some views and to suggest nobody else could do better is ridiculous.

Under JB 3 goals in 4 matches, in the previous 7 under KC 1 goal. Although all I think we can draw from this is that are attackers are hot garbage.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: CobblerForever on February 24, 2021, 17:38:00 pm
In 3 of his 4 games we haven't scored.

I just think there could be more balance with some views and to suggest nobody else could do better is ridiculous.

Before Brady was made the Caretaker Manager we were creating precious few chances. We are now creating chances, we just need Edmondson or Rose or some other to go on a run of taking them.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3419 on February 24, 2021, 17:39:29 pm
In 3 of his 4 games we haven't scored.

I just think there could be more balance with some views and to suggest nobody else could do better is ridiculous.

Jon Brady has changed the style of play and the players, which has resulted in many more chances created for the strikers.

The reason we have not scored in 3 of the last 4 games is because of the poor standard of the inherited strikers not JB, Sammo and Rico!


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: guest3355 on February 24, 2021, 17:48:24 pm
Under JB 3 goals in 4 matches, in the previous 7 under KC 1 goal. Although all I think we can draw from this is that are attackers are hot garbage.

Can't argue with that evaluation of our strikers.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: West Stand on February 24, 2021, 17:57:24 pm
I find it unbelievable that the fan base of our club still think he “saved us”and therefore should never be questioned.
The guy is a chancer and fair play to him, he saw an opportunity to make serious money and still might do BUT don’t think for one second he gives two shytes about the club, he will be on his bike before the ink is dry
There are people out there interested in acquiring the club but not at the asking price currently.


Who? And how is the situation going to be different with new owners. The club has been loss making forever.


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: West Stand on February 24, 2021, 17:58:20 pm
No sane person would buy NTFC


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: CobblerForever on February 24, 2021, 17:59:47 pm


Who? And how is the situation going to be different with new owners. The club has been loss making forever.

The guys who used to tease Shoey presumably (or appear in his fantasies !).


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: EB Claret on February 24, 2021, 20:07:47 pm
No sane person would buy NTFC

Luckily for us there are shed loads of nutters out there ;)


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on February 25, 2021, 12:28:54 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-made-changes-to-keep-players-fresh-3146747


Title: Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21
Post by: Coolcat on February 25, 2021, 18:26:02 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-made-changes-to-keep-players-fresh-3146747
Fair enough comments!
Still think Rose could have been brought on earlier though.