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Title: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on March 03, 2021, 01:36:30 am
I like JB, he loves our club, his passion is obvious in his interviews, and he's got the team playing for him...
What's not to like?
Sign him up now!!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on March 03, 2021, 09:22:03 am
Agreed. Obviously there's no guarantee of success, but it's hard to believe there's a better man for the job at the moment. His passion for the club could be the difference between staying up or not.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on March 03, 2021, 12:07:49 pm
One win in 6 games.........happy to give him another couple of games but itís a results business, one swallow and all that.
I do like JB heís one of us.

UTC


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Turner Street Cobbler on March 03, 2021, 12:10:56 pm
One win in 6 games.........happy to give him another couple of games but itís a results business, one swallow and all that.
I do like JB heís one of us.

UTC

Completely agree, looks promising and he clearly loves the club but I'd like to see continue and become a habit before offering Brady a longer term deal. We had this issue in a similar sense with Curle as every so often we would get a credible performance or result and then people wanted him to stay. Low and behold, the next 4 or so games we awful.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Carton Lid on March 03, 2021, 13:07:31 pm
We had this issue in a similar sense with Curle as every so often we would get a credible performance or result and then people wanted him to stay. Low and behold, the next 4 or so games we awful.
I would argue that although we have, so far, only had one credible result under Brady, the other 4 games haven't been awful and we could/should have picked up more points.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Gen.Disorda on March 03, 2021, 13:13:21 pm
I would argue that although we have, so far, only had one credible result under Brady, the other 4 games haven't been awful and we could/should have picked up more points.

I totally agree. We were the width of the post away from taking 9 or 10 points from the first few games.

I wouldn't jump the gun and give him a longer contract.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Welly Cobb on March 03, 2021, 13:15:26 pm
So, if I were to look at it,

Good performances
Burton - Attacking from the off, an absolutely travesty of a goalkeeper mistake denies what should be a win in reality.
Ipswich - Another great team performance, once again should have taken 3 points but lacking quality up front to finish the chances we created.
Milton Keynes - Good attack threat, poor defensive performance. Unlucky to lose, should have got a point minimum from it.
Plymouth - A bit agricultural and lacking much attacking intent, but always in control after the second against a team doing well.

Poor performancess
Rochdale - First not particuarly good performance, maybe hampered by the wind and conditions.
Swindon - Confidence sapped, though conceding a unjust freekick at the end of the first half took the game away from us. Another goalkeeper howler.

I think if that was over the course of the season, considering the respective budget in the division I'd probably be satisfied with it. It's not spectacularly overachieving, it's not awful either. Results have been less forgiving than the performances.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2021, 15:08:02 pm
Thought the recent results against MK and Swindon were avoidable and the losses exposed some poor judgement in selection and substitutions. There is an improvement in playing style but hardly in results. As some others have said it is perhaps too early  to give JB a free reign to end of the season. Too early approval might embarrass both Club and the Triumvirate.  I would give the Triumvirate a total of 10 games - so 4 I think to go. If the results are disappointing prior to completion of 10 games then an immediate assessment should take place. To me we are in a desperate survival battle and with respect to Jean G the selection
should be taken with care and not be rushed.  I certainly hope for better results and will support any appointment made by KT. What is Jean G interests in promoting JBrady so liberally?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Knockingonabit on March 03, 2021, 16:24:27 pm
What is Jean G interests in promoting JBrady so liberally?
What sort of question is that?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 03, 2021, 17:20:57 pm
What is Jean G interests in promoting JBrady so liberally?
What sort of question is that?

I think it's just the latest conspiracy theory/multiple username/agenda accusation from Evers. Smile and nod and just move on...


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2021, 17:46:40 pm
What is Jean G interests in promoting JBrady so liberally?
What sort of question is that?

Only very few supporters have openly suggested that Jon Brady be appointed Manager with immediate effect. I think for reasons best known to yourself you are reading too much into the query.

Jean G said 'I like JB, he loves our club, his passion is obvious in his interviews, and he's got the team playing for him... What's not to like?  Sign him up now!!

All admirable sentiments but all a bit rhetorical. What I was trying to obtain was a bit more substance from Jean G ; like Coaching , tactics and League 1 survival plan up to the end of season. In other words what is Jean G specific interest to promote Jon Brady. Would like to share Jean G's views if possible 8)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on March 03, 2021, 18:05:37 pm
Only very few supporters have openly suggested that Jon Brady be appointed Manager with immediate effect. I think for reasons best known to yourself you are reading too much into the query.

Jean G said 'I like JB, he loves our club, his passion is obvious in his interviews, and he's got the team playing for him... What's not to like?  Sign him up now!!

All admirable sentiments but all a bit rhetorical. What I was trying to obtain was a bit more substance from Jean G ; like Coaching , tactics and League 1 survival plan up to the end of season. In other words what is Jean G specific interest to promote Jon Brady. Would like to share Jean G's views if possible 8)

I canít speak for Jean but I 100% agree with his post. If it helps figure out Jeanís rationale / agenda, here is mine:
- he has a genuine passion for this club
- he has appointed 2 competent coaches who also have the aforementioned passion
- he puts NTFC success above his own ego
- he seems to man manage well
- he has them playing more on the front foot with a much more positive approach
- he doesnít talk in footballing cliches
- he knows how to work with and develop youngsters - thatís our future
- he lives round here so commitment and work life balance pluses
- heís not failed elsewhere and cashed in

Appoint him now until the end of the season.
STOP REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES BY APPOINTING THE LATEST DROSS THAT DROPS OFF THE  LOWER LEAGUE MANAGERIAL MERRY-GO-ROUND.
- letís grow together, have realistic 5 year aims and achieve them.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2021, 18:42:57 pm
I canít speak for Jean but I 100% agree with his post. If it helps figure out Jeanís rationale / agenda, here is mine:
- he has a genuine passion for this club
- he has appointed 2 competent coaches who also have the aforementioned passion
- he puts NTFC success above his own ego
- he seems to man manage well
- he has them playing more on the front foot with a much more positive approach
- he doesnít talk in footballing cliches
- he knows how to work with and develop youngsters - thatís our future
- he lives round here so commitment and work life balance pluses
- heís not failed elsewhere and cashed in

Appoint him now until the end of the season.
STOP REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES BY APPOINTING THE LATEST DROSS THAT DROPS OFF THE  LOWER LEAGUE MANAGERIAL MERRY-GO-ROUND.
- letís grow together, have realistic 5 year aims and achieve them.


Similar to Jean G's sentiments; all very admirable with perhaps item 5 bring relevant.  I think your use of 'rationale' is admirable and might have helped me to be more succinct. Some of your proposals appear to be personal views based on dare I say it ; Tinted Glasses. Far more hard nosed appraisal would help on team tactics, game plans for L1 survival, coaching  and the type of player required, transfer policy etc. I wouldn't mind a suggestion or two how to avoid the migration of key players at the end of season! To put it bluntly IMO personal sentiments are fine but if you support the immediate selection of a manager you may need to convince some hard bitten sceptics on here.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Alfred on March 03, 2021, 19:10:25 pm
Ian Evatt endured a slow start to life at Bolton, winning just two of his opening 15 games in all competitions.

However, he's now got #BWFC purring, as six successive wins has propelled the club up to 6th to within six points of the summit!



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: bungle on March 03, 2021, 19:49:41 pm
Dean Austin: 7 points from 5 games
John Brady: 5 points from 6 games

The signs are very encouraging but I would give Brady a few more games to prove he can produce a sustained upturn in form and goal-scoring.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: CJ on March 03, 2021, 20:05:17 pm
Dean Austin: 7 points from 5 games
John Brady: 5 points from 6 games

The signs are very encouraging but I would give Brady a few more games to prove he can produce a sustained upturn in form and goal-scoring.
There is an obvious difference between Brady and Austin that I havent seen highlighted in comparisons of the two on here.
Brady was not involved with the first team squad before being given the caretakers role, but Austin was JFHs assistant.
Bradys starting from further back.
I'd give him more allowance in that respect and make him first team manager now, especially if that means he doesnt have to wait until the summer for a pay rise.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on March 03, 2021, 20:13:00 pm
Dean Austin: 7 points from 5 games
John Brady: 5 points from 6 games

The signs are very encouraging but I would give Brady a few more games to prove he can produce a sustained upturn in form and goal-scoring.
Spot on mate.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Grove on March 03, 2021, 20:17:15 pm
Similar to Jean G's sentiments; all very admirable with perhaps item 5 bring relevant.  I think your use of 'rationale' is admirable and might have helped me to be more succinct. Some of your proposals appear to be personal views based on dare I say it ; Tinted Glasses. Far more hard nosed appraisal would help on team tactics, game plans for L1 survival, coaching  and the type of player required, transfer policy etc. I wouldn't mind a suggestion or two how to avoid the migration of key players at the end of season! To put it bluntly IMO personal sentiments are fine but if you support the immediate selection of a manager you may need to convince some hard bitten sceptics on here.

I think maybe you should ask Jon Brady  these questions, how on earth is anyone other than him likely to know the answers to your questions.
youve named paul Cook as your choice without giving reasons as why or any of the aforementioned  questions


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on March 03, 2021, 20:23:25 pm

The signs are very encouraging but I would give Brady a few more games to prove he can produce a sustained upturn in form and goal-scoring.

Expecting an upturn in goal-scoring is like sending someone into a gunfight with a revolver full of blanks.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 03, 2021, 21:16:51 pm
I think maybe you should ask Jon Brady  these questions, how on earth is anyone other than him likely to know the answers to your questions.
youve named paul Cook as your choice without giving reasons as why or any of the aforementioned  questions

Paul Cook was never a realistic choice although at the time he seemed an ideal but unlikely choice. His record spoke for itself. There are enough expert and articulate Forum members who would be able to make a list of what they expect or hope for from Jon Brady. Take Drilling he would probably fill a page ;). It simply is not enough to say he has a passion for the club, interviews well, lives locally and is a nice chap; would have thought KT would be more interested in specific details. Some of these declared attributes as outlined in some posts are a given in any case!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: bungle on March 03, 2021, 21:30:23 pm
I would add that I desperately want Brady to succeed.

His post-match interviews are the best of any manager I can remember bar Wilder,

He comes across as intelligent, tactically knowledgeable and genuinely passionate. The way he has dealt with performers like Hoskins and Mitchell suggests that he is a very good man-manager.

I would love him to succeed and like others would far rather have a successful Brady than a soulless journeyman with no connection to the club. However, as I say, he needs to prove that he can maintain a run of results and give us a genuine chance of staying up. Once he does that I would give him a contract to the end of the season with the option of extending it further.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on March 03, 2021, 21:37:44 pm
You can do all the due diligence you like when appointing a new manager but I would say there there is little to no correlation between that and any future success. Just look at JFH we appoint him and itís a disaster, add that failure to his record, Burton appoint him and he works wonders, with the same scenario happening with Gary Johnson. Letís not pretend thereís any science to the process.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Welly Cobb on March 03, 2021, 21:46:10 pm
I think my major two concerns would be 1. We'd have to appoint a new academy head, and when he inevitably leaves (whatever happens, he'll not be here in 3 years, almost 99% certain), can he be reintigrated into it or will we lose him. 2. Recruitment. Brady, Sammo and Rico have almost zero outside connections to other teams, are they entirely reliant on scouts opinions and that standard of recruitment (Slowe, that guy who joined solely because he was John Johnsons real life mate, Courtney Herbert) pretty much killed Sammos management career.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Alfred on March 04, 2021, 07:10:08 am
I think my major two concerns would be 1. We'd have to appoint a new academy head, and when he inevitably leaves (whatever happens, he'll not be here in 3 years, almost 99% certain), can he be reintigrated into it or will we lose him. 2. Recruitment. Brady, Sammo and Rico have almost zero outside connections to other teams, are they entirely reliant on scouts opinions and that standard of recruitment (Slowe, that guy who joined solely because he was John Johnsons real life mate, Courtney Herbert) pretty much killed Sammos management career.

Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on March 04, 2021, 07:41:48 am
Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW

Agree, Sammo is well known on the circuit.  ;)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Welly Cobb on March 04, 2021, 08:10:45 am
Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW
Well, I meant more along the lines that they've all been at the club for a long time, and don't have experience coaching or managing at other locations which you get mostly when you recruit experienced managers. Not to say that this will end up 100% leading to poor recruitment, just the area I think I'd be most concerned about.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: threeinabed on March 04, 2021, 08:37:06 am
Well, I meant more along the lines that they've all been at the club for a long time, and don't have experience coaching or managing at other locations which you get mostly when you recruit experienced managers. Not to say that this will end up 100% leading to poor recruitment, just the area I think I'd be most concerned about.

curle was well known and coached at other locations - and his recruitment this season has been utter dogs***


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on March 04, 2021, 09:26:00 am
Remember, we've still got head of recruitment Simon Tracey, under contract for another season...

So unless KC gets another job and wants to take him with him, we're stuck with him, unless we sack him!

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/back_room_staff/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/back_room_staff/)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2021, 09:32:47 am
curle was well known and coached at other locations - and his recruitment this season has been utter dogs***


Well thatís your view but not everybodyís. The current squad are better than their current position belies. Even Manny4 has suggested this as have some others. You canít get promotion without some decent coaching. You do need some half decent players to help thoí.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on March 04, 2021, 09:53:30 am
Well thatís your view but not everybodyís. The current squad are better than their current position belies. Even Manny4 has suggested this as have some others. You canít get promotion without some decent coaching. You do need some half decent players to help thoí.

It was just a shame those half decent players that got us promoted left in the summer. The current squad has been woeful this season and for me we have probably got more points than we have deserved. There are signs though with Watsonís great form and in the last match Horsfall and Sowerby had their best games for the club, whether Brady can get goals out of our attackers is another matter!.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on March 04, 2021, 10:19:28 am
So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Battery Man on March 04, 2021, 10:23:59 am
So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.

I agree with this, lets have someone in charge who cares and understands the youth set up so can set up a philosophy for the whole club on the playing side.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 04, 2021, 11:59:05 am
I've said this before but I'm not averse to repeating myself (and it's something of a tradition on here) so I'll say it again  ;D.

Yes, we lost a lot of good players over the summer but I wouldn't write off the current batch as bad players. I actually think we've recruited players that are probably "better footballers" in some cases but Curle didn't know what to do with them once he had them. He then asked them to play in a style that they weren't used to, didn't suit them and that frankly they aren't physically equipped to play. The end result is they played badly, lost a lot of games and have basically been psychologically broken by the experience.

I think a good few of them are still technically decent players, they are just going out expecting to do badly and as a result are playing out a form of self-fulfilling prophecy.

Nowhere is this more tangible than up front. Look at our strikers -
  • Rose is a proven goalscorer and is probably the least affected as a result but certainly isn't firing on all cylinders
  • A bit of a moot point, perhaps, but Smith is the epitome of this. He's a decent footballer and finisher. He just isn't a targetman. We used him as a targetman and he couldn't do it. He's clearly quite a highly strung player and it's had an effect on him. I think it's a shame he was farmed out when he was because we could really use him right now
  • Korboa had bags of energy and looked a real find when we first saw him but soon had that enthusiasm beaten out of him. Probably now sh1tting it because he's likely to end up back at Wickes in the summer because he looked a bundle of nerves and uncertainty in his cameo against Plymouth
  • BAS - no one else seems to see it but I maintain there's a decent player in there. To come from tippy-tappy U23 stuff to Curle's blood and thunder hit and hope stuff was probably too much of an ask and has put him way back in his development. I think with a more passing approach we will get more out of him. I suspect there might be an attitude problem there that Brady is trying to address first though... Maybe he's already shot his bolt but I've a suspicion he could go on to "do a Steve Morison" (if someone buys him a decent pair of boots)


I've left Edmondson and Chuk out because they are both rookies and Miller because he's actually a tad unfortunate not to have scored a couple. Obviously Jones is a complete unknown.

My point though is has the recruitment been a problem because we've misused good players or because we've recruited square pegs for round holes?

If it's the latter, then that's Tracey's fault because he didn't get what the manager was looking for, if it's the former it's Curle's fault for squandering Tracey's (potentially) good work.

Either way, if the Brady Bunch can build up the confidence of a few of these players and play to their strengths, call me hopelessly optimistic, but I think we could end up a decent side by the end of the season. Will that turnaround come in time to get the points on the board though....?

 


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Charlatan on March 04, 2021, 12:08:30 pm
I would add that I desperately want Brady to succeed.

His post-match interviews are the best of any manager I can remember bar Wilder,

He comes across as intelligent, tactically knowledgeable and genuinely passionate. The way he has dealt with performers like Hoskins and Mitchell suggests that he is a very good man-manager.

I would love him to succeed and like others would far rather have a successful Brady than a soulless journeyman with no connection to the club. However, as I say, he needs to prove that he can maintain a run of results and give us a genuine chance of staying up. Once he does that I would give him a contract to the end of the season with the option of extending it further.


Agree with this. IF we lose to Pompey on Saturday (lets face it will be a tough game) I HOPE this board isn't full of get whoever in posts.
I personally would love The Brady Bunch in charge. but as pointed out above lets give them a few more games. Obviously I hope we get a win on Saturday but I would settle for a point. UTC


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Clint on March 04, 2021, 12:23:49 pm
Some great posts on here, keep it up lads! I too want Brady & co. to succeed, and I think they will.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: LawfordCob on March 04, 2021, 12:59:13 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-brady-to-stay-in-charge-of-cobblers-until-the-end-of-the-season-3154398 Well this will make people happy and others undecided and some unhappy..


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: crazycobbler on March 04, 2021, 13:02:37 pm
Would have preferred us to have appointed someone external but happy KT has finally provided some certainty at least until the end of the season. Time for us all to get behind Brady in the fight for survival. Hopefully Tuesdayís win will have given the players a huge boost!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 04, 2021, 13:07:34 pm
I doubt there's a single one of us, on here or at the club, that doesn't want DB and pals too succeed. So that's that covered!  ;D

What cannot be disputed is that at this level, or the one or two below it, he's got no experience.

Im not concerned about lack of contacts. Gary Johnsons little black book didn't do us any favours. There's plenty of examples of how a lower league player has become their manager and done well. Two I can think of off the top of my head without giving it any thought are David Artell and Ainsworth.

My concern, and its looking at history, is that often when a team bottoms out of league1, the slump continues into the following season and out of the league they go. Chesterfield, Yeovil, Southend potentially this season all spring to mind. We are in a precarious position, and last time when we went with Austin, it was only our much criticised previous incumbent who stopped the rot after a 4-0 (should have been 7 or 8-0) defeat at Mansfield which was arguably one of the very worst performances in our more than recent history. At that time we had some really decent players as well, more so than we currently do. But unlike today, there was a big disparity in wages, which likely caused a dressing room split amongst other things.

As a club, we need to learn about how we went about our business last time and recovered quickly to become a promotion challenging side. Take away the bad stuff that didn't work, and put into place a structure where we could potentially bounce back at the first attempt if we do get relegated.

Personally, I wouldn't want us to stick with Brady until the Summer, go down and then look to replace, and then potentially miss out on the early summer deals because we are in a transitional period (management). A decision needs to be made a fair time before this season ends as to who our next manager is beyond this season...

If Brady was to keep us up, its a no brainer. But Id hold fire for now on any decision; my view since Curle was fired was to go external, but Brady (subs use and last 30 minutes tactics aside!!!) has impressed me. I also accept that my view, like all of our views, is subjective and that many would have agreed with him tactically etc during those games.

5 points from 6 games is no better a return than what we were getting before Curle was sacked. I do however accept that if luck had been with us and our keeper hadn't of been on speed, we'd probably have got 9 or 10 from those games! We've also played nice football, although strangely the one game where we did hoof it a fair bit more than the others, and had a fraction of the possession (32%) was the game we won! Funny old game eh.

Lets see what happens Satdee. See you on here over the weekend no doubt!



edit - above was posted 2 minutes before Brady's announcement. Good luck to him and Rico and Sammo!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2021, 13:09:44 pm
So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.

I think you do some of the recruited players a disservice. Some are average and some freed of Curles tactical disciplines are beginning to look ok. I happen to think that the squad is better than originally thought! Are you waving a white flag still?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 04, 2021, 13:11:14 pm
Good, I'm pleased about that. Reading between the lines on KT's comments about the medium term and Brady, Sammo and Rico all having roles at the club of some sort makes me think that they are still planning to get an external in for next season.

I guess if the Brady Bunch keep us up it's going to be very difficult for KT to not give them the full time role though.

The ball's in your court, boys, show us what you can do!!!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on March 04, 2021, 13:33:15 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-brady-to-stay-in-charge-of-cobblers-until-the-end-of-the-season-3154398 Well this will make people happy and others undecided and some unhappy..
YAY!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on March 04, 2021, 13:35:42 pm
Happy with this, good luck Jon, Rico & Sammo!  :)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 04, 2021, 13:40:18 pm
Delighted with this decision ...
You couldnít get a more committed team.
The club has done 100% the right thing by everyone .
Now letís stay up ....


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Wanderingteyn on March 04, 2021, 13:54:25 pm
It feels like a sensible decision.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: LawfordCob on March 04, 2021, 14:04:24 pm
YAY!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Careful now, some may start to question why you are happy! ;D


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Risdene on March 04, 2021, 14:07:09 pm
Delighted with this decision ...
You couldnít get a more committed team.
The club has done 100% the right thing by everyone .
Now letís stay up ....
+1


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2021, 14:38:39 pm
Careful now, some may start to question why you are happy! ;D

Fair question  8)
To Jean G are you happy for yourself or just for smooth talking big Jon  ;D = el Saviour
Knowing full well you don't reply or comment on posts :o  Pretty wise tho'.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on March 04, 2021, 15:19:20 pm
Makes sense for KT to announce now after the elusive win, before the Pompey game.
Once he didnít replace him after the first few results it was never going to happen and gives the trio some immediate stability.
Fingers crossed we push on and make it difficult for KT not to extend. We have plenty of time to pull clear and survive, if Burton can (with the Ďgeniusí of JFH) Iím sure we can.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: singcobb on March 04, 2021, 15:36:12 pm
Good, I'm pleased about that. Reading between the lines on KT's comments about the medium term and Brady, Sammo and Rico all having roles at the club of some sort makes me think that they are still planning to get an external in for next season.

I guess if the Brady Bunch keep us up it's going to be very difficult for KT to not give them the full time role though.

The ball's in your court, boys, show us what you can do!!!

Fully agree with this. I would really like to see the boys make it very difficult for KT to get rid of them at the end of the season.
I would also hope that the savings in not hiring an outsider will allow for maybe a few more out of contract fresh faces.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on March 04, 2021, 15:52:12 pm
I think you do some of the recruited players a disservice. Some are average and some freed of Curles tactical disciplines are beginning to look ok. I happen to think that the squad is better than originally thought! Are you waving a white flag still?

No, but if you start from the bottom...

I am glad that KT digested my earlier comments, you could obviously see they were directed at him personally.

This is absolutely the right thing to do and given a relatively short period of time I think the boys will mould an exciting team, they do know these divisions as well as anyone.

I didn't say the players were bad but the recruitment was, you can recruit a "team" badly, you probably have some amazing skills but I wouldn't recruit you as part of a PR team for example. That would be dogshit recruitment as we mentioned earlier.

Anyway, C'mon lads!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on March 04, 2021, 15:53:03 pm
Fully agree with this. I would really like to see the boys make it very difficult for KT to get rid of them at the end of the season.
I would also hope that the savings in not hiring an outsider will allow for maybe a few more out of contract fresh faces.

Totally agree..


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Pablo69 on March 04, 2021, 16:38:23 pm
Agree with giving Brady bunch  until end if season. It us unfortunate that we seem to play a lot better when we are playing so called better teams. We have lost and looked poor when we have played Swindon, Rochdale, Burton, Wigan etc. This is probably because of too much expectation and pressure on the team.
Let's hope that round pegs in round holes and encouragement from JB will help the players relax and play more confidently.
I do think we can stay up, 17th at end of season.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Coolcat on March 04, 2021, 16:38:45 pm
Down down, you bring me down...or I am the Resurrection?  ;)

https://youtu.be/TbU7oVz0Uq0


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on March 04, 2021, 16:52:46 pm
 ??? I hope Brady is not "off his face" on e's? 

That would be a disappointment after just getting the job.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2021, 17:06:16 pm
Down down, you bring me down...or


This was a favourite with the Hotel End; bit before your time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx06XNfDvk0


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on March 04, 2021, 17:30:18 pm
At last a decision, this was totally on the back of that first elusive win and before we get turned over by Pompey, just goes to show I donít think there was ever an intention to go external, obviously the cheapest solution.
Thomas is in full damage limitation........
I have a feeling of history repeating itself here like with Austin, time will tell.
Anyway I am fully behind the Brady Bunch

UTC


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: CJ on March 04, 2021, 17:43:55 pm
At last a decision, this was totally on the back of that first elusive win and before we get turned over by Pompey, just goes to show I donít think there was ever an intention to go external, obviously the cheapest solution.
Thomas is in full damage limitation........
I have a feeling of history repeating itself here like with Austin, time will tell.
Anyway I am fully behind the Brady Bunch

UTC
Bleedin obvious weren't it.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on March 04, 2021, 17:50:58 pm
Good luck Jon, Ian & Marc and of course goalkeeping coach Dan Watson. We're all behind you and at long last a decision has been made.

All the best lads!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on March 04, 2021, 18:48:46 pm
Chuffed. Finally a management team that care for NTFC as much as I do!
Well done KT. Now letís get a realistic 5 year plan agreed and back The Brady Bunch to get us there.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on March 04, 2021, 18:56:10 pm
Pleased about this. Whatever happens the rest of the season I think it's the only sensible decision at this point. Good luck to them and the team!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: super-si on March 04, 2021, 19:57:49 pm
Best thing thatís happened to this football club for some time. Yeah, promotion through the playoffs was great, but it wasnít based on form or the managerial skills of KC. It was down to the desire of the players and playing with freedom for 2 matches. JB understands that. He is a team manager - not a football manager after his own bit of glory. Good luck Jon!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Grove on March 04, 2021, 20:18:40 pm
Great news , lots of best wishes on here whilst biting their tongues and grimacing


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on March 04, 2021, 20:36:42 pm
Chuffed. Finally a management team that care for NTFC as much as I do!
Well done KT. Now letís get a realistic 5 year plan agreed and back The Brady Bunch to get us there.


Love the optimism but I donít think we do 5 year plans. Graham Carr must be the last to hang on for that long. They tend to move up or out these days.
Letís go for survival, Championship, lose in Championship final and then he goes to Watford and Sammo takes over.
The more likely scenario is that he lasts a few months after the next transfer window. The joys of the Cobblers merry-go-round.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 04, 2021, 21:46:09 pm
Agree with giving Brady bunch  until end if season. .....................................................
I do think we can stay up, 17th at end of season.

Agree and hope it all goes well especially on Saturday - perhaps we can now get the fabled Managers bounce. Love the sound of 17th ..who wouldn't.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Wanderingteyn on March 04, 2021, 23:48:17 pm
Great news , lots of best wishes on here whilst biting their tongues and grimacing

Mr Right.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on March 05, 2021, 01:29:51 am
Fair question  8)
To Jean G are you happy for yourself or just for smooth talking big Jon  ;D = el Saviour
Knowing full well you don't reply or comment on posts :o  Pretty wise tho'.
Evers, I'm happy that our club is moving in the right direction, you seem to have an agenda against the flow, as and when it suits...
'Big' Jon (he's not that big), has our club at heart, and I don't need to state tactics or formations to substantiate my view...




Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Charlatan on March 05, 2021, 11:35:44 am
Down down, you bring me down...or I am the Resurrection?  ;)

https://youtu.be/TbU7oVz0Uq0
Cheered me up loads. Good choice of song Mr Coolcat, he's hoping & praying for a Resurrection. Best of luck Brady Bunch UTC


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 06, 2021, 09:42:25 am
So refreshing to hear a manager talking sense in an articulate way .
I actually now think we have a plan and a belief on the pitch .
Curle just spouted rubbish and relied on pseudo psychology .
He hid his own failings behind fraudulent philosophies .
The man was a charlatan .


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobbler151 on March 06, 2021, 10:15:08 am
At last a decision, this was totally on the back of that first elusive win and before we get turned over by Pompey, just goes to show I donít think there was ever an intention to go external, obviously the cheapest solution.
Thomas is in full damage limitation........
I have a feeling of history repeating itself here like with Austin, time will tell.
Anyway I am fully behind the Brady Bunch

UTC

Have to agree with this, no strong links, bookies odds all over the place, nevet any intent.

Fully behind them though


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 06, 2021, 10:23:33 am
Evers, I'm happy that our club is moving in the right direction, you seem to have an agenda against the flow, as and when it suits...
'Big' Jon (he's not that big), has our club at heart, and I don't need to state tactics or formations to substantiate my view...


I am at least hoping for a win today and Charlton too! An agenda! - like some on here hope he does well😎. JB did not have universal approval certainly before Plymouth and gave reasons for doing so.  Donít count your chickens etc


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 06, 2021, 21:24:03 pm
Brady .... aaahaaaaah ... saviour of the universe
Brady ... aaaahaaaah ... you saved every one of us

ď brady you have only 13 games to save the world ď

heís just a miracle
savour of the impossible


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on March 07, 2021, 00:28:51 am
I like JB, he loves our club, his passion is obvious in his interviews, and he's got the team playing for him...
What's not to like?
Sign him up now!!
I rest my case, and raise my glass...
Still not out of the woods, but what a difference a week makes!
Momentum and confidence is everything, enjoy your weekend fellow cobbs, the future is looking a whole lot brighter than a few weeks ago...  :)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 07, 2021, 00:32:28 am
I rest my case, and raise my glass...
Still not out of the woods, but what a difference a week makes!
Momentum and confidence is everything, enjoy your weekend fellow cobbs, the future is looking a whole lot brighter than a few weeks ago...  :)

Firstly you are up very late BUT is your glass half full or empty?
 8)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on March 07, 2021, 00:48:48 am
Firstly you are up very late BUT is your glass half full or empty?
 8)
Firstly, I'm a night owl, and secondly, my glass is alternating between both, and why not? Happy cobbler celebrating this morning...
Hope this finds you well...   ;)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: BackOfTheNet on March 07, 2021, 07:55:53 am
I just watched the EFL show on Quest. They showed a clip of an interview with Brady and afterwards Colin Murray said "I absolutely love that interview. I don't support Northampton, I don't think I've ever been to Northampton, but I'd run through a brick wall for that guy."

Top stuff!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on March 07, 2021, 09:08:30 am
I just watched the EFL show on Quest. They showed a clip of an interview with Brady and afterwards Colin Murray said "I absolutely love that interview. I don't support Northampton, I don't think I've ever been to Northampton, but I'd run through a brick wall for that guy."

Top stuff!

This is what we need to harness.

We should now be looking to long term stability and produce a new culture throughout the club, similarly to Dario Gradi and his time at Crewe. Allow Brady to recruit a new team for the youngsters with him, Sammo and Marc at the top.

A revolving door of managers doesn't work and with these three in place and allowed to shape the club we have an amazing chance to break the mould, I hope KT grabs it.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on March 07, 2021, 09:56:18 am
Top post


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on March 07, 2021, 09:58:43 am
This is what we need to harness.

We should now be looking to long term stability and produce a new culture throughout the club, similarly to Dario Gradi and his time at Crewe. Allow Brady to recruit a new team for the youngsters with him, Sammo and Marc at the top.

A revolving door of managers doesn't work and with these three in place and allowed to shape the club we have an amazing chance to break the mould, I hope KT grabs it.

Top post


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on March 07, 2021, 10:13:30 am
This is what we need to harness.

We should now be looking to long term stability and produce a new culture throughout the club, similarly to Dario Gradi and his time at Crewe. Allow Brady to recruit a new team for the youngsters with him, Sammo and Marc at the top.

A revolving door of managers doesn't work and with these three in place and allowed to shape the club we have an amazing chance to break the mould, I hope KT grabs it.

I donít necessarily disagree with you, the issue is at any time is  if we lose 5 or 6 on the spin or end up deep in a relegation mire the fan base will be screaming for his head and it will be difficult for any chairman to resist in the face of the inevitable vitriol. I donít think itís a case of KT grabbing it but more a case of fans holding their nerve on what in football is often a bumpy ride.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Risdene on March 08, 2021, 06:54:19 am
For me one of the big difference between Curle and Brady is 'intent'.

KC played a lone centre forward who had to chase long balls. Midfielders had no time to join him.
Under JB he has THREE forwards with pace who are joined by an advanced midfielder, Watson. He is saying you 4 create and score goals because the two holding midfielders give you safety .

JB began by stopping the oil tanker from game one and has continued by turning it around. Now full steam ahead!

It is a pleasure to look forward to games again instead of enduring them.

Well done, so far, to the Brady Bunch.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on March 08, 2021, 10:44:26 am
For me one of the big difference between Curle and Brady is 'intent'.

KC played a lone centre forward who had to chase long balls. Midfielders had no time to join him.
Under JB he has THREE forwards with pace who are joined by an advanced midfielder, Watson. He is saying you 4 create and score goals because the two holding midfielders give you safety .

JB began by stopping the oil tanker from game one and has continued by turning it around. Now full steam ahead!

It is a pleasure to look forward to games again instead of enduring them.

Well done, so far, to the Brady Bunch.
+1


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: DrillingCobbler on March 08, 2021, 11:04:41 am
Made my concerns about Brady loud and clear. I must say though that I've been mightily impressed these last 2 games (in particular) and the teams shape and tactical approach to games is very clear and concise. At the end of the day, 10 goals from the last 5 games tells its own story, and Id argue that we could have scored many more if our strikers had been ruthless.

I still have concerns that when we go a goal down or are struggling in a game, I've not seen evidence to move away from plan A (which has worked very well versus Plymouth and Pompey) and adapt accordingly. Whilst that doesn't matter when your in front in games, it does in other matches and I think our points haul would have been far higher if earlier subs had been made etc, particular in the Rochdale and Swindon games.

That isn't a negative slight, we've been exceptional this past week, and long may it continue. Charlton's results at home this year have been dreadful, so I'm really hopeful that we can kick on tomorrow evening.

What I do like about Brady is that he oozes positivity, and seems really passionate about the job in hand and the club in general. The players have responded to that and some of their performances are now at a level that I think any reasonable person wouldn't have thought possible a short while ago.

Im not going to get carried away, there's some tough games coming up and we are still right in the sh1t but we've given ourselves a decent chance and a real platform to kick on from!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: EB Claret on March 08, 2021, 14:51:23 pm
Made my concerns about Brady loud and clear. I must say though that I've been mightily impressed these last 2 games (in particular) and the teams shape and tactical approach to games is very clear and concise. At the end of the day, 10 goals from the last 5 games tells its own story, and Id argue that we could have scored many more if our strikers had been ruthless.

I still have concerns that when we go a goal down or are struggling in a game, I've not seen evidence to move away from plan A (which has worked very well versus Plymouth and Pompey) and adapt accordingly. Whilst that doesn't matter when your in front in games, it does in other matches and I think our points haul would have been far higher if earlier subs had been made etc, particular in the Rochdale and Swindon games.

That isn't a negative slight, we've been exceptional this past week, and long may it continue. Charlton's results at home this year have been dreadful, so I'm really hopeful that we can kick on tomorrow evening.

What I do like about Brady is that he oozes positivity, and seems really passionate about the job in hand and the club in general. The players have responded to that and some of their performances are now at a level that I think any reasonable person wouldn't have thought possible a short while ago.

Im not going to get carried away, there's some tough games coming up and we are still right in the sh1t but we've given ourselves a decent chance and a real platform to kick on from!

I suppose it's a different mentality for Brady in first team football where results are everything. In youth games the emphasis is encouraging young players to learn good habits, technique and team play, the performance is the most important thing which reduces the need to alter the team or style of play.
At the moment the first team is like a new group of players at the start of the season. I feel confident that JB and Co. are smart enough to make appropriate changes when the team is playing is the way they want.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on March 08, 2021, 16:14:56 pm
I suppose it's a different mentality for Brady in first team football where results are everything. In youth games the emphasis is encouraging young players to learn good habits, technique and team play, the performance is the most important thing which reduces the need to alter the team or style of play.
At the moment the first team is like a new group of players at the start of the season. I feel confident that JB and Co. are smart enough to make appropriate changes when the team is playing is the way they want.

He has already severely criticised some players after the Swindon game so perhaps he has the wherewithal to manage players in the right manner after a defeat?   At the moment the team are his 'revitalised' players so they are for now 'great' players. He has said he will do everything possible to ensure survival in L1.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on March 08, 2021, 16:22:54 pm
He has already severely criticised some players after the Swindon game so perhaps he has the wherewithal to manage players in the right manner after a defeat?   At the moment the team are his 'revitalised' players so they are for now 'great' players. He has said he will do everything possible to ensure survival in L1.
And then looked at what happened after the Swindon game .
No justification required .


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on April 02, 2021, 18:28:05 pm
Most passionate interview since Sir Chris Wilder at Notts County...

https://youtu.be/GtelgwUu7Pw (https://youtu.be/GtelgwUu7Pw)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 02, 2021, 18:39:28 pm
I would suggest that JB stays away from social media after games. If he does become permanent manager at some point it will do nothing for his mental state. Imagine if supporters were allowed in the grounds and some of the vile abuse that's dished out at times.

I like his passion though particularly when discussing Lee Collins.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: SadOldGit on April 02, 2021, 20:09:42 pm
I really like the guy but I am worried for his well-being when he gets this involved. I do think a modern manager needs to keep one step removed from us rascals.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on April 02, 2021, 20:45:13 pm
I really hope this job isnít too much for him, he seems to flick for one emotional outburst to another, John it really isnít personal, itís peopleís opinions.
He looks a broken man.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Another Pedj on April 02, 2021, 20:54:29 pm
Not sure I agree with that. Hes passionate but frustrated with what he has available. Sowerby is now out for the season as is miller. Squad players  and youth are not stepping up.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Mysterious Curle on April 02, 2021, 21:17:01 pm
Most passionate interview since Sir Chris Wilder at Notts County...

https://youtu.be/GtelgwUu7Pw (https://youtu.be/GtelgwUu7Pw)

A great interview, regardless if he is or isnít the right man for the job, we all know he is working with a dud squad!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 02, 2021, 23:08:42 pm
I like him.....what a breath of fresh air after the Curle interviews.

He's getting what he can out of our squad, laying the law down to the youngsters (some of whom he coached in the U18's don't forget) and he's a very passionate guy who is wearing NTFC on his sleeve.

If we go down we go down, but at least we will go down fighting under Brady, rather than with a whimper which is where we were heading under Curle.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on April 02, 2021, 23:25:36 pm
I like him.....what a breath of fresh air after the Curle interviews.

He's getting what he can out of our squad, laying the law down to the youngsters (some of whom he coached in the U18's don't forget) and he's a very passionate guy who is wearing NTFC on his sleeve.

If we go down we go down, but at least we will go down fighting under Brady, rather than with a whimper which is where we were heading under Curle.

Totally agree!!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 02, 2021, 23:42:11 pm
I donít believe we could have brought in another management team that would have got a better points tally out of this squad post Curle? The pressure these blokes are under is immense and at times they are going to lash out, just like us? I think in the morning Jon will be the first to acknowledge the emotional roller coaster us supporters are on and perhaps with hindsight cut us some slack? Many of us have been following the club for 40 years +. We have had our hearts ripped out of our chests more times than we can count and still we keep coming back and back, only to be brought to our knees time and time again. When results go against us we will lash out, and any player that doesnít appear to give his all will get slaughtered for it. But if you deliver as a manager or player when it matters you will become immortal and your name will be revered for ever. As a player you just have to decide if you have the minerals to try and become one of the exclusive group that make up the latter? Personally Iím just happy that Jon, Sammo and Rico are calling the shots on this run in because they genuinely love this club, and no amount of money you chuck at the job can buy that.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 03, 2021, 00:03:33 am
I donít believe we could have brought in another management team that would have got a better points tally out of this squad post Curle? The pressure these blokes are under is immense and at times they are going to lash out, just like us? I think in the morning Jon will be the first to acknowledge the emotional roller coaster us supporters are on and perhaps with hindsight cut us some slack? Many of us have been following the club for 40 years +. We have had our hearts ripped out of our chests more times than we can count and still we keep coming back and back, only to be brought to our knees time and time again. When results go against us we will lash out, and any player that doesnít appear to give his all will get slaughtered for it. But if you deliver as a manager or player when it matters you will become immortal and your name will be revered for ever. As a player you just have to decide if you have the minerals to try and become one of the exclusive group that make up the latter? Personally Iím just happy that Jon, Sammo and Rico are calling the shots on this run in because they genuinely love this club, and no amount of money you chuck at the job can buy that.

Great post,  can't disagree with any of it. Not many clubs get a management team that have a genuine affection for them and speak as honestly and emotively as Brady, you know he's speaking from the heart and deserves to get us out of the mire.
Whether he does or not remains to be seen, but I think we'd all love him to succeed.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on April 03, 2021, 00:27:03 am
I donít believe we could have brought in another management team that would have got a better points tally out of this squad post Curle? The pressure these blokes are under is immense and at times they are going to lash out, just like us? I think in the morning Jon will be the first to acknowledge the emotional roller coaster us supporters are on and perhaps with hindsight cut us some slack? Many of us have been following the club for 40 years +. We have had our hearts ripped out of our chests more times than we can count and still we keep coming back and back, only to be brought to our knees time and time again. When results go against us we will lash out, and any player that doesnít appear to give his all will get slaughtered for it. But if you deliver as a manager or player when it matters you will become immortal and your name will be revered for ever. As a player you just have to decide if you have the minerals to try and become one of the exclusive group that make up the latter? Personally Iím just happy that Jon, Sammo and Rico are calling the shots on this run in because they genuinely love this club, and no amount of money you chuck at the job can buy that.

A heartfelt passionate post that I can totally relate to...  Wouldn't want my club in anyone's else's hands right now, if any one can save us, it has to be the Brady bunch...


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 03, 2021, 00:55:55 am
as most people know on here - i have backed JB for some some time.
That man cares like we do for this club .
Just get behind him because he is one of us .


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Clint on April 03, 2021, 09:23:44 am
What a genuine, great bloke he is ...


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on April 03, 2021, 09:29:26 am
Very relatable interview and great not to listen to a mangers normal clichťs.
He should stay off social media, especially when you consider the kind of stuff posted is pretty tame compared to whatís out there. Itís probably lucky that weíve been behind closed doors!
We certainly wouldnít get anyone else who cares as much and Iím sure has the players backing.
Getting anything out of Monday would be huge.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 03, 2021, 12:23:44 pm
A heartfelt passionate post that I can totally relate to...  Wouldn't want my club in anyone's else's hands right now, if any one can save us, it has to be the Brady bunch...

JeanG - support for JB cuts both ways with good results and disappointing ones.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JeanGenie on April 03, 2021, 13:57:21 pm
JeanG - support for JB cuts both ways with good results and disappointing ones.

Don't dispute it...  (and it's Akinfenwa btw)   ::)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Dr Feelgood on April 03, 2021, 14:53:35 pm
Top Bloke...hope he can keep us up.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 03, 2021, 15:56:38 pm
Don't dispute it...  (and it's Akinfenwa btw)   ::)

Akenfenwa??


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 03, 2021, 16:03:49 pm
Akenfenwa??

Your spelling is out Evers. Adebayo Akinfenwa is the correct spelling.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Norfolk_In_Chance on April 03, 2021, 19:05:43 pm
He has the club at heart & i for one hope he will agree to stay as our manager for next season & beyond even if relegated. Also, yesterday he showed tactical astuteness with the 4-2-2-2 formation. I think he can keep us up, but even if not we should stick with him. IMO


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 03, 2021, 19:31:56 pm
He has the club at heart & i for one hope he will agree to stay as our manager for next season & beyond even if relegated. Also, yesterday he showed tactical astuteness with the 4-2-2-2 formation. I think he can keep us up, but even if not we should stick with him. IMO

You have been away a long time?   8)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: singcobb on April 03, 2021, 19:45:24 pm
as most people know on here - i have backed JB for some some time.
That man cares like we do for this club .
Just get behind him because he is one of us .


This is why I have respect for the bloke. He might not deliver alll the time and given what he has to play with that is not unexpected, but you can see his passion for the club and if he can imprint this on the players we will survive.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on April 03, 2021, 21:55:19 pm
He has something that is very rare these days in football... Honesty and integrity. That put him above many others in my book.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: andycobbler on April 04, 2021, 11:44:03 am
He has something that is very rare these days in football... Honesty and integrity. That put him above many others in my book.
+1


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on April 04, 2021, 14:50:23 pm
I can only add to the above comments.

I do hope KT takes note and does the right thing. Sammo, Rico and Jon know these leagues inside out and the trio have great respect for each other and a huge desire for us to succeed as a club, as much as any of us do. This is a rare opportunity.

I can't remember us ever producing such a strongly qualified and dedicated back room team, so I hope we don't blow it and give it to some passing charlatan looking for a stepping stone.

Given some time and patience they will deliver as much if not more than any of the 29 managers I've witnessed previously.



Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 04, 2021, 15:12:40 pm
Of course this all depends on JB and the others wanting the job on a long term basis. Maybe, they don't and are more than happy to go back to the academy at the end of the season. Out of the stress and strains of football management and the inevitable sack at some point in the future.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: bwills on April 04, 2021, 15:50:55 pm
I can only add to the above comments.

I do hope KT takes note and does the right thing. Sammo, Rico and Jon know these leagues inside out and the trio have great respect for each other and a huge desire for us to succeed as a club, as much as any of us do. This is a rare opportunity.

I can't remember us ever producing such a strongly qualified and dedicated back room team, so I hope we don't blow it and give it to some passing charlatan looking for a stepping stone.

Given some time and patience they will deliver as much if not more than any of the 29 managers I've witnessed previously.



This is the question I would like to be asked or put forward by the club, are we ,as supporters , willing to give Brady & co time , say 2/3 seasons to create a new ethos for the club . Patience will need to given as there are bound to be bumps in the road on the way.
The thing is , as none of us can look into the future, does that mean playing eye pleasing football in league one or national league? But on the other hand can any other manager guarantee a bright future?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on April 04, 2021, 19:15:19 pm
I can only add to the above comments.

I do hope KT takes note and does the right thing. Sammo, Rico and Jon know these leagues inside out and the trio have great respect for each other and a huge desire for us to succeed as a club, as much as any of us do. This is a rare opportunity.

I can't remember us ever producing such a strongly qualified and dedicated back room team, so I hope we don't blow it and give it to some passing charlatan looking for a stepping stone.

Given some time and patience they will deliver as much if not more than any of the 29 managers I've witnessed previously.



Inclined to agree with this.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Larry on April 04, 2021, 20:58:15 pm
Are they on limited time contracts? I would guess at they level at a lower league club they would be regular PAYE employees. They can't be on big wages, I would suggest around £35k for Brady and less than £30k for Sammo and Rico.
I'm just guessing here, I have no idea how much backroom staff at lower league clubs are paid or what sort of contracts they are on.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Battery Man on April 08, 2021, 09:05:12 am
This is the question I would like to be asked or put forward by the club, are we ,as supporters , willing to give Brady & co time , say 2/3 seasons to create a new ethos for the club . Patience will need to given as there are bound to be bumps in the road on the way.
The thing is , as none of us can look into the future, does that mean playing eye pleasing football in league one or national league? But on the other hand can any other manager guarantee a bright future?

I think we should give them the time to do this, I am fed up with managers who are only here for a paycheck, at least Brady and Co. are genuine and care for the club. I want us to do as well as we can but if it means going down a division or two to build that club ethos then so be it.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on April 08, 2021, 09:29:04 am
Massive love in on this thread. I get it to a degree, in as much as I would love to see these three make it work. It is almost an ideal scenario.

The trouble is Iím not sure it is working. I canít help but feel that the main change since Curle is that we try to play more football now, but we manage it only in very occasional glimpses and still do not really carry a threat or create a lot. The biggest worry is that we consequently have become a a bit of a soft touch / lightweight / easily rolled type of a side and confidence looks fragile to me.

We need to show a bit more going forwards and Iíd love to see us start to develop the ability to come from behind in a game.

So, I get the sentiment, but pragmatically there are more experienced and better qualified options out there, so Iíd like to see a bit more from the team before tossing Brady etc the reins for three years.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Battery Man on April 08, 2021, 10:20:55 am
Massive love in on this thread. I get it to a degree, in as much as I would love to see these three make it work. It is almost an ideal scenario.

The trouble is Iím not sure it is working. I canít help but feel that the main change since Curle is that we try to play more football now, but we manage it only in very occasional glimpses and still do not really carry a threat or create a lot. The biggest worry is that we consequently have become a a bit of a soft touch / lightweight / easily rolled type of a side and confidence looks fragile to me.

We need to show a bit more going forwards and Iíd love to see us start to develop the ability to come from behind in a game.

So, I get the sentiment, but pragmatically there are more experienced and better qualified options out there, so Iíd like to see a bit more from the team before tossing Brady etc the reins for three years.

I get what you are saying, but Brady and co can only work with the tools they are given and I think this team would struggle whoever was in charge. I think it needs us to get to the end of the season and have a big clearout and bring in players that Brady & co can work with to take us forward.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 08, 2021, 10:37:57 am
I think we should give them the time to do this, I am fed up with managers who are only here for a paycheck, at least Brady and Co. are genuine and care for the club. I want us to do as well as we can but if it means going down a division or two to build that club ethos then so be it.

So you'd be content for us to lose our league standing in order to prove we are on the right path? Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 08, 2021, 11:27:41 am
I think we should give them the time to do this, I am fed up with managers who are only here for a paycheck, at least Brady and Co. are genuine and care for the club. I want us to do as well as we can but if it means going down a division or two to build that club ethos then so be it.

You might have shot your self in the foot with the last sentence 8)


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: threeinabed on April 08, 2021, 11:33:49 am
Massive love in on this thread. I get it to a degree, in as much as I would love to see these three make it work. It is almost an ideal scenario.

The trouble is Iím not sure it is working. I canít help but feel that the main change since Curle is that we try to play more football now, but we manage it only in very occasional glimpses and still do not really carry a threat or create a lot. The biggest worry is that we consequently have become a a bit of a soft touch / lightweight / easily rolled type of a side and confidence looks fragile to me.

We need to show a bit more going forwards and Iíd love to see us start to develop the ability to come from behind in a game.

So, I get the sentiment, but pragmatically there are more experienced and better qualified options out there, so Iíd like to see a bit more from the team before tossing Brady etc the reins for three years.

they are curles players, he assembled the soft centre we now have!

we have improved our defensive record, but we still have the soft underbelly that curle left us with - thats more mental than organisational.

however, trying to play a better brand of football is all well and good, but you cant do it with hoofball players!!

recruitment in the summer is once again needed to be massive


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 08, 2021, 12:26:38 pm
So you'd be content for us to lose our league standing in order to prove we are on the right path? Unbelievable.

Just read the quote you've replied to and couldn't agree with you more. dropping out of the league would be the worst thing that could happen to this club and we wouldn't be getting back in any time soon. 100 years of unbroken league membership and some people would be happy to throw it away to build some sort of club ethos. Think we should be able to do that without losing our league status, unthinkable.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 08, 2021, 12:39:21 pm
they are curles players, he assembled the soft centre we now have!

we have improved our defensive record, but we still have the soft underbelly that curle left us with - thats more mental than organisational.

however, trying to play a better brand of football is all well and good, but you cant do it with hoofball players!!

recruitment in the summer is once again needed to be massive

Please explain what players are hoofball players?? I thought all players were footballers who adapt to the tactics any particular manager wishes them to play.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Battery Man on April 08, 2021, 12:40:05 pm
So you'd be content for us to lose our league standing in order to prove we are on the right path? Unbelievable.

No not content, but I would take it if it meant that we had a long term vision and plan for the Club, to be honest I would go and watch the club in whatever the division they were in. Yes I want us to have league football but its more about meeting mates and enjoying the day out and enjoying the football I am watching. In the last few seasons with journeymen managers there has been precious little enjoyable football to watch.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on April 08, 2021, 12:43:03 pm
No not content, but I would take it if it meant that we had a long term vision and plan for the Club, to be honest I would go and watch the club in whatever the division they were in. Yes I want us to have league football but its more about meeting mates and enjoying the day out and enjoying the football I am watching. In the last few seasons with journeymen managers there has been precious little enjoyable football to watch.
Wow, I think your on your own there mate, dropping into non league would be an unmitigated disaster and you would do it because you want to see a ethos developed, no thanks Jon.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 08, 2021, 13:20:22 pm
I get what you are saying, but Brady and co can only work with the tools they are given and I think this team would struggle whoever was in charge. I think it needs us to get to the end of the season and have a big clearout and bring in players that Brady & co can work with to take us forward.

What do you mean by soft centre as by common consent on here that the defence had improved considerably and that includes Marshall! If you mean the front three they perhaps deserve a more appropriate nickname?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on April 08, 2021, 15:53:02 pm
I think soft centre is harsh too, we are where we are because of a lack of ability not effort and primarily being completely blunt in attack.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on April 08, 2021, 16:07:28 pm
What I meant by soft centre / soft underbelly, is that you watch the game and feel like they have done ok, but they actually create very little going forwards and then get picked off for a 1-0 or 2-0 defeat, often to a fairly tepid goal.

I agree that he has had no opportunity to bring his own people in and that the squad is not strong enough for the division. However, I can think of numerous times when I have seen a Cobblers team written off as hopeless, only to be revitalised and rejuvenated by a new manager. Not sure this has happened with too many this time around.

Iím not anti-Brady. I want it to work and relegation is not necessarily the end for him as far as I am concerned. I just worry that he might be a losing manager long term and I would need to see a lot more before Iíd be offering out long term contracts.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on April 08, 2021, 16:09:10 pm
What do you mean by soft centre as by common consent on here that the defence had improved considerably and that includes Marshall! If you mean the front three they perhaps deserve a more appropriate nickname?

How about a ďsaggy topĒ?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on April 08, 2021, 16:16:10 pm
Wow, I think your on your own there mate, dropping into non league would be an unmitigated disaster and you would do it because you want to see a ethos developed, no thanks Jon.

Manny, as mad as battery man sounds, I do have some support for his point of view.

I never thought Iíd quote a biblical story on the hotel end but ...
Wasnít there a guy that built his house on the sand and another guy that built his house on the rocks. One fell down and one didnít- you can work out which one for yourself!

Journeymen with no loyalty, who canít wait to work nearer home, and have no genuine passion for success is the football equivalent of building a successful football club on the sand. If we need to go backwards to build on the rocks then I for one will vote for that.

Donít expect all to agree, especially those like JollyCobbler that think loyalty is for mugs and losers.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: 1971cobbler on April 08, 2021, 16:25:22 pm
Manny, as mad as battery man sounds, I do have some support for his point of view.

I never thought Iíd quote a biblical story on the hotel end but ...
Wasnít there a guy that built his house on the sand and another guy that built his house on the rocks. One fell down and one didnít- you can work out which one for yourself!

Journeymen with no loyalty, who canít wait to work nearer home, and have no genuine passion for success is the football equivalent of building a successful football club on the sand. If we need to go backwards to build on the rocks then I for one will vote for that.

Donít expect all to agree, especially those like JollyCobbler that think loyalty is for mugs and losers.



What if your house is built on the site of a former rubbish tip that's got methane gas problems?  :o


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 08, 2021, 16:27:56 pm
Manny, as mad as battery man sounds, I do have some support for his point of view.

I never thought Iíd quote a biblical story on the hotel end but ...
Wasnít there a guy that built his house on the sand and another guy that built his house on the rocks. One fell down and one didnít- you can work out which one for yourself!

Journeymen with no loyalty, who canít wait to work nearer home, and have no genuine passion for success is the football equivalent of building a successful football club on the sand. If we need to go backwards to build on the rocks then I for one will vote for that.

Donít expect all to agree, especially those like JollyCobbler that think loyalty is for mugs and losers.

Don't forget that most of the bible has about as much credence as any other work of fiction, considerably less in some cases and why would not wanting to lose our long standing league status be considered disloyal?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 08, 2021, 16:41:20 pm
Don't forget that most of the bible has about as much credence as any other work of fiction, considerably less in some cases and why would not wanting to lose our long standing league status be considered disloyal?

Come in SOG to query such heretical stance😎


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Battery Man on April 08, 2021, 16:42:32 pm
Don't forget that most of the bible has about as much credence as any other work of fiction, considerably less in some cases and why would not wanting to lose our long standing league status be considered disloyal?

I didn't say I wanted us to lose our league status, what I said was I would still follow them if we did and I think we need to settle on a steady head at the helm to get us there, wouldn't you want to see a long term solution to the **** we have had to put up with these last few years. We need an owner that wants a club with a long term plan and a manger who wants the same.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on April 08, 2021, 16:53:12 pm
I didn't say I wanted us to lose our league status, what I said was I would still follow them if we did and I think we need to settle on a steady head at the helm to get us there, wouldn't you want to see a long term solution to the **** we have had to put up with these last few years. We need an owner that wants a club with a long term plan and a manger who wants the same.

Fair enough but it wouldnít be the person with back to back relegations.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 08, 2021, 17:22:34 pm
I didn't say I wanted us to lose our league status, what I said was I would still follow them if we did and I think we need to settle on a steady head at the helm to get us there, wouldn't you want to see a long term solution to the **** we have had to put up with these last few years. We need an owner that wants a club with a long term plan and a manger who wants the same.

I didn't say you did, I was replying to Jim Hall, hence the boxed "quote" from Jim Hall above my reply.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 08, 2021, 17:32:29 pm
I didn't say I wanted us to lose our league status, what I said was I would still follow them if we did and I think we need to settle on a steady head at the helm to get us there, wouldn't you want to see a long term solution to the **** we have had to put up with these last few years. We need an owner that wants a club with a long term plan and a manger who wants the same.

Also, yes, of course I'd like to see a long term solution to the shyte that's gone on but not at the expense of our league status that would possibly do a lot more harm than good. Many teams have dropped out and some have probably come back stronger, not many. More have dropped out and not come back and won't be coming back any time soon and we ain't going to get a Ryan Reynolds either.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 09, 2021, 01:23:57 am
Fair enough but it wouldnít be the person with back to back relegations.

Exactly!


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 09, 2021, 08:59:44 am
The other major consideration is budget .
We are simply not paying the going rate in wages for this division .
That may be prudence on behalf of the Exec team and it may stand us in good stead during these hard times but we will never truly compete or hold on to our good players if we pay below the accepted levels .
Watch again at the end of this season as the very few better players go for more money elsewhere .


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: 1971cobbler on April 09, 2021, 16:57:08 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56687470

Maybe something to consider for those thinking of appointing an up and coming non league manager in the close season, especially if we went down this year?

Beware the freefall.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: ntfclad on April 09, 2021, 17:21:35 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56687470

Maybe something to consider for those thinking of appointing an up and coming non league manager in the close season, especially if we went down this year?

Beware the freefall.

Vastly different situations, Molesley started under a transfer embargo and only with youngsters to work with


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on April 09, 2021, 19:51:27 pm
Vastly different situations, Molesley started under a transfer embargo and only with youngsters to work with

What's your thoughts on a new gaffa ntfclad? You think we're still going down the non league route or will they just give it to Brady no matter what division we end up in?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Boot and shoe on April 12, 2021, 13:46:21 pm
if we go down by a point , would you keep this management team on next season ?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 12, 2021, 13:48:55 pm
if we go down by a point , would you keep this management team on next season ?
I prefer the question, which management team would be an improvement on this one next season and why?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Carton Lid on April 12, 2021, 17:14:27 pm
Joey Barton was mentioned on here before he took over at the Gas, looking at Saturdays game, I thought that despite probably having a better squad of players than us, Rovers were no better than us at all, in fact I think we could lay claim to have been better than then. So does that make Brady a better manger than Barton?
   We could put this in the context of "are we better to get an experienced man in" ? Barton. an experienced manager, failed to get enough out of an arguably better squad to beat our squad managed by a "rookie" manager.
   I would agree that Brady hasn't got everything right, that was never going to happen, but I think he's made our defence reasonably solid despite having an extremely limited goalkeeper, and hasn't done anything stupid like leaving our best player on the bench so he can watch and alter the game later. He's struggling to get goals from our front players but I think that would be very difficult for anyone.
    We have beaten Oxford and Portsmouth recently, both managed by experience men so what conclusions does that draw ?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 12, 2021, 19:01:40 pm
Joey Barton was mentioned on here before he took over at the Gas, looking at Saturdays game, I thought that despite probably having a better squad of players than us, Rovers were no better than us at all, in fact I think we could lay claim to have been better than then. So does that make Brady a better manger than Barton?
   We could put this in the context of "are we better to get an experienced man in" ? Barton. an experienced manager, failed to get enough out of an arguably better squad to beat our squad managed by a "rookie" manager.
   I would agree that Brady hasn't got everything right, that was never going to happen, but I think he's made our defence reasonably solid despite having an extremely limited goalkeeper, and hasn't done anything stupid like leaving our best player on the bench so he can watch and alter the game later. He's struggling to get goals from our front players but I think that would be very difficult for anyone.
    We have beaten Oxford and Portsmouth recently, both managed by experience men so what conclusions does that draw ?

And what about all of those 'lesser' sides we have failed miserably against? If we reach the end of the season still failing to pick up any points away from Sixfields, would you still consider him the right man for the job?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on April 12, 2021, 19:29:24 pm
And what about all of those 'lesser' sides we have failed miserably against? If we reach the end of the season still failing to pick up any points away from Sixfields, would you still consider him the right man for the job?
No he isnít, heís the cheap option so I fully expect him to be give the poison chalice of NTFC next season, high expectations on a Thomas budget.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on April 12, 2021, 20:58:16 pm
on a Thomas budget.
Didn't most on here congratulate him for holding season ticket prices for the 10th year in a row? And now want a higher playing budget despite having to hand out refunds to a lot of supporters for this season.
Can't have everything. Either no playing budget or reasonable season tickets


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Steve Massive Massey on April 13, 2021, 05:59:51 am
if we go down by a point , would you keep this management team on next season ?

I prefer the question, which management team would be an improvement on this one next season and why?

Yes.

Good question. I would like to hear opinions on this, I would say at this level, on our budget, there isn't one.

We heard Joey Bartons name mentioned, Carton is right. Take Grant McCann as an example, fired from Pooh for being too "rookie," hated at Hull last season now you could argue Pooh were a bit premature? Need they have ever bothered sacking DF twenty times before? it's all nuts!

I would like to see what this trio do with the team given the chance.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 13, 2021, 10:13:00 am
And what about all of those 'lesser' sides we have failed miserably against? If we reach the end of the season still failing to pick up any points away from Sixfields, would you still consider him the right man for the job?

Well Jolly what do you think of Chucks, Jonesy and Marshallís little cameoís last Saturday?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Carton Lid on April 13, 2021, 11:50:39 am
And what about all of those 'lesser' sides we have failed miserably against? If we reach the end of the season still failing to pick up any points away from Sixfields, would you still consider him the right man for the job?
This is the big problem isn't it ? At our level there are no "Guaranteed success" managers so what do we do, bring in another experienced man, probably looking to top up his pension, an "up & coming" man from non league but he won't have league experience or stick with staff who are NTFC men through and through? With no guarantee's on anyone.
    I don't want another KC type off the lower league managers roundabout, I would be reasonably happy with a non league up and coming manager or stick with the NTFC at heart men we have at the moment.
    But as I said, there are no guarantee's with anyone .


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: JollyCobbler on April 13, 2021, 12:31:18 pm
Well Jolly what do you think of Chucks, Jonesy and Marshallís little cameoís last Saturday?

I thought it was interesting, especially given Brady's repeated statements about "the players need to show in training to have a chance of playing". While in an ideal world I understand (and largely agree with) this viewpoint, I would say we are at the stage where chances have to be taken. Marshall can be a bit in-and-out, but I think he has to start because we need some creativity. I would also start Jones on friday, too. As for Chucks; I'm not sure, but if Brady doesn't start him then I'd definitely like to see him get a full 45 minutes second half.
I see enough with these three to edge us towards some unexpected results.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Dan on April 13, 2021, 12:54:57 pm
if we go down by a point , would you keep this management team on next season ?

In that scenario 100% no. Given he couldnít beat Burton, Rochdale, Swindon, Wimbledon or Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Manwork04 on April 13, 2021, 12:57:53 pm
Didn't most on here congratulate him for holding season ticket prices for the 10th year in a row? And now want a higher playing budget despite having to hand out refunds to a lot of supporters for this season.
Can't have everything. Either no playing budget or reasonable season tickets
Did you think they were going to moan about the prices being frozen? We will be playing in a lower league next season against footballing icons like Harrogate and Barrow FFS!
Putting the season tickets up wouldnít have been a clever idea.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on April 13, 2021, 16:12:30 pm
I'd give Brady a 12 month contract and keep him until Xmas if it is going pear shaped. Who else are we likely to attract? Another journeyman talking in clichťs.
The only thing grating a little with JB is his increasing talk of 'people are saying this' etc. He's been playing to an empty house so needs to toughen up a little and must be getting his feedback from Facebook....or places like this. I'm not sure how he'd cope with some of the sh*t that gets shouted at the dugout from row C.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on April 13, 2021, 16:22:24 pm
I get the calls for a short term contract of a season for managers. Trouble is that makes your bloke a top target if the team does well? Either way, please god letís have some continuity and stick it out with someone. The endless revolving door of mediocrity to crisis and back again is nonsense, expensive and tiresome.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on April 13, 2021, 16:39:47 pm
I get the calls for a short term contract of a season for managers. Trouble is that makes your bloke a top target if the team does well? Either way, please god letís have some continuity and stick it out with someone. The endless revolving door of mediocrity to crisis and back again is nonsense, expensive and tiresome.

I think the pragmatic approach of a short contract far outweighs the cost of these two/three year deals, especially at our level. If he is doing well you can extend mid way through. If he is doing well on a longer contract someone will pay you compo to nab him anyway, assuming they wanted to go. I dread to think how many managers we have paid over the years who were no longer actually employed by us.
I'd always go the short term route with some performance related incentive bonuses. 


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Winslow Lee on April 13, 2021, 17:15:23 pm
I get the calls for a short term contract of a season for managers. Trouble is that makes your bloke a top target if the team does well? Either way, please god letís have some continuity and stick it out with someone. The endless revolving door of mediocrity to crisis and back again is nonsense, expensive and tiresome.

At this level the chances of keeping a successful manager wanted by bigger clubs, under a long contract or not is zero. So the length of the contract comes down to potential compensation for having your manager pinched vís potential pay offs for sackings, I would imagine most if not all teams sack managers far more often than have them leave for bigger clubs, so for me short contracts make much more sense.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: crazycobbler on April 13, 2021, 17:23:54 pm
To me the situation is very clear. If we stay up keep Brady, if we go down get someone new in. Brady has done ok as manager but I wouldnít say the improvement has been that great to warrant staying in the job should we go down. Whether that be by one point or not. As for the question of who could we get in as manager who would be better than Brady. No one knows the answer as you can never predict how well any manager is going to get on. However what I would say is there are managers out there with much better records and CVs than Brady. That doesnít guarantee success of course, but the narrative some have pushed which is that there is no one out there better than Brady is a ridiculous one. In my humble opinion of course  ;D


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: west stand oap on April 13, 2021, 19:53:09 pm
JB says Saturday was another point gained - no, it was 2 points lost. If that is how he views a home draw with another bottom 6 team he does not fill me with confidence.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 13, 2021, 20:06:11 pm
JB says Saturday was another point gained - no, it was 2 points lost. If that is how he views a home draw with another bottom 6 team he does not fill me with confidence.

Bit harsh WSOAP - it at least kept us out of the bottom at until Friday. If there is any criticism he keeps Playing Edmondson without Marshall for a bit of quality?  Also the subs could come on sooner. I suspect that the draw whilst not ideal was a better for us than Rovers?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: cobblertone on April 13, 2021, 20:08:37 pm
Bit harsh WSOAP - it at least kept us out of the bottom at until Tuesday. If there is any criticism he keeps Playing Edmondson without Marshall for a bit of quality?  Also the subs could come on sooner. I suspect that the draw whilst not ideal was a better for us than Rovers?


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Shoemender on April 13, 2021, 20:10:19 pm
The draw was worse for us, we were at home and if we hoped to stay up these were the games we should have been winning.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 13, 2021, 21:28:26 pm
You could name numerous games where we failed to pick up enough points. But the game against Wimbledon where we didn't turn up, gave away a sloppy goal and then missed a penalty with the last kick of the game has in my opinion proved crucial to the mess we find ourselves in now.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: tcobb on April 14, 2021, 01:13:25 am
Unfortunately Brady hasn't done anything to help matters at all, far too negative,  sets the side out not to lose when winning is far more important.  Talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on April 14, 2021, 09:47:44 am
Unfortunately Brady hasn't done anything to help matters at all, far too negative,  sets the side out not to lose when winning is far more important.  Talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

Sounds like a reincarnation of KC  :o


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: Teachers Pet on April 14, 2021, 10:37:14 am
Unfortunately Brady hasn't done anything to help matters at all, far too negative,  sets the side out not to lose when winning is far more important.  Talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

I tend to agree. I like the guy but all his talk is about really going for games when in reality, particularly away, we just try not to lose. MK away changed his outlook sadly.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: crazycobbler on April 14, 2021, 11:35:21 am
I tend to agree. I like the guy but all his talk is about really going for games when in reality, particularly away, we just try not to lose. MK away changed his outlook sadly.

Itís easy to talk and say Ďweíre going to always have a goí until the pressure comes. When Brady took charge as caretaker there wasnít really anything to lose as such. He got a pass from a large section of the fan base on the basis that Ďit couldnít really get any worse than Curleí. Once the expectations start to rise, the pressure quickly follows and all of a sudden that bravery often goes out of the window. The novelty of playing a certain way also wears off quite quickly if results donít follow.


Title: Re: Jon Brady
Post by: everbrite on April 14, 2021, 11:42:48 am
The draw was worse for us, we were at home and if we hoped to stay up these were the games we should have been winning.


Am talking about the here and now! Not if
Consider this; we are one point behind Wigan whilst BR are now 3pts and all have played 41games! BR may need two games to catch Wigan? All I said that we were in my opinion slightly better off than BR after Sat game. Of course it would be better with a win ::)