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Title: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on April 29, 2021, 17:16:04 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/revealed-the-enormous-number-of-league-one-players-out-of-contract-this-summer-3218746
Who you want?  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on April 29, 2021, 17:35:28 pm
You could make a very good league 1 out of that list!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on April 29, 2021, 22:45:19 pm
Groundhog Day.....we were told much the same last season...it was an embarrassment of riches, a buyers market, no need to rush in as there would be loads of quality players out of work......how did that work out for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on April 30, 2021, 06:31:28 am
Groundhog Day.....we were told much the same last season...it was an embarrassment of riches, a buyers market, no need to rush in as there would be loads of quality players out of work......how did that work out for us?

We signed players for fees already contracted to clubs!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on April 30, 2021, 06:47:37 am
We signed players for fees already contracted to clubs!
Thanks for that Gareth.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on April 30, 2021, 06:55:38 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/revealed-the-enormous-number-of-league-one-players-out-of-contract-this-summer-3218746
Who you want?  8)
We should definitely sign Jordi van Stappershoef just for Toggle Tim.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on April 30, 2021, 15:26:23 pm
We should definitely sign Jordi van Stappershoef just for Toggle Tim.
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on April 30, 2021, 17:30:35 pm
Chuks Aneke, Emyr Huws, Lee Nicholls, Chris Maguire - only names I recognise there really, and I don't think any are really gettable. I guess the full-time scouts might have a fair few more better ideas than I.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 01, 2021, 15:08:01 pm
Chuks Aneke, Emyr Huws, Lee Nicholls, Chris Maguire - only names I recognise there really, and I don't think any are really gettable. I guess the full-time scouts might have a fair few more better ideas than I.
Sign um all.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 01, 2021, 15:59:20 pm
As I’ve read elsewhere on here, defence are strong, CM is decent for league 2, strikers have generally succeeded elsewhere or have come from higher up the pyramid.

New GK and creative midfielder and we should be all set.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 01, 2021, 16:06:04 pm
As I’ve read elsewhere on here, defence are strong, CM is decent for league 2, strikers have generally succeeded elsewhere or have come from higher up the pyramid.

New GK and creative midfielder and we should be all set.
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 01, 2021, 16:14:54 pm
I think from the under contracts, Horsfall, Sowerby, Chukwuemeka might be good enough. Jones (both), Watson fine to, but all out of contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 01, 2021, 16:19:18 pm
I think from the under contracts, Horsfall, Sowerby, Chukwuemeka might be good enough. Jones (both), Watson fine to, but all out of contract.

Sowerby has been poor for me, I’m not sure what he’s supposed to be? He’s doesn’t get around, make tackles and break up play anywhere near as well as McWilliams, in attack he doesn’t create or score goals.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 01, 2021, 16:20:14 pm
Sowerby’s become a better player by being absent the last month or so! Obviously there’s some kind of issue with Chuk as Brady didn’t trust him in a make or break match. Don’t know about Alex Jones, it would be a pretty major gamble given his recent history.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 01, 2021, 16:38:51 pm
As I’ve read elsewhere on here, defence are strong, CM is decent for league 2, strikers have generally succeeded elsewhere or have come from higher up the pyramid.

New GK and creative midfielder and we should be all set.

Defence still not strong enough and we could lose Jones and in midfield Watson. Thought that the forwards were pretty clueless in second half. Poor old Mitchell blamed for two goals; the first not completely sure it was as the scorer shaped to cross the ball rather than a shot on goal. Second was definitely a keeper error but no doubt those more expert will comment on. We probably wont see him again! All in all a very disappointing display by a side fighting for League 1 survival. As for the Brady Team yes there has been an improvement but it was not enough. The problem for JB is that he had a few very disappointing displays against the bottom 6 sides; similar to todays display. At the moment am not sure if he should be invited to be the next Manager as subbing Watson did not appear to be an effective move.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 01, 2021, 16:45:04 pm
Defence still not strong enough and we could lose Jones and in midfield Watson. Thought that the forwards were pretty clueless in second half. Poor old Mitchell blamed for two goals; the first not completely sure it was as the scorer shaped to cross the ball rather than a shot on goal. Second was definitely a keeper error but no doubt those more expert will comment on. We probably wont see him again! All in all a very disappointing display by a side fighting for League 1 survival. As for the Brady Team yes there has been an improvement but it was not enough. The problem for JB is that he had a few very disappointing displays against the bottom 6 sides; similar to todays display. At the moment am not sure if he should be invited to be the next Manager as subbing Watson did not appear to be an effective move.



You’ve changed your tune. What a difference a day makes!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 01, 2021, 16:49:09 pm
On balance, I think we need a new manager tbh.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 01, 2021, 16:51:42 pm
Whatever he decides KT needs to do it ASAP to give the new man (whether it be Brady or not) all the time he needs to assess the squad and start recruitment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 01, 2021, 17:02:10 pm
You’ve changed your tune. What a difference a day makes!

I basically agree with Bungle's and Welly's opinions; for a side fighting relegation it was a disappointing display. Yes or No?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 01, 2021, 17:21:42 pm
I basically agree with Bungle's and Welly's opinions; for a side fighting relegation it was a disappointing display. Yes or No?

Yes. Like most weeks.

Something I’ve been banging on about for weeks!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 06, 2021, 09:31:31 am
Lee Nicholls released by MK...proper keeper...GET HIM IN!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 06, 2021, 09:33:39 am
Lee Nicholls released by MK...proper keeper...GET HIM IN!

+1


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 06, 2021, 09:45:32 am
+2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 06, 2021, 10:19:12 am
+ 3


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on May 06, 2021, 13:43:12 pm
+4


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on May 06, 2021, 14:08:42 pm
= 10?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 06, 2021, 14:10:44 pm
Last time I saw him he’d been on the pies but compared to this season’s no.1
+++++


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 06, 2021, 14:23:53 pm
Last time I saw him he’d been on the pies but compared to this season’s no.1
+++++
Was that when he was playing for Wigan ?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on May 06, 2021, 14:36:09 pm
+ whatever number we are up to.
Is this how the new committee works?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 06, 2021, 17:12:43 pm
Makes you wonder why he’s been warming the bench at MK when at his prime age. That said, Bunn made a career out of it. I’d hope we are at least looking at him as an option.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 06, 2021, 17:18:43 pm
Any thoughts why Nichols has been released? Seems a strange decision if in his prime. Always makes me nervous if Carton Lid is all for signing him. 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 06, 2021, 17:36:47 pm
Andrew Fisher has been very impressive there and Nicholls would probably demand a decent wage, so probably makes more sense to go a cheaper number 2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Air-Dan on May 06, 2021, 17:51:13 pm
+ 9


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on May 06, 2021, 19:54:33 pm
Didn't we have Fisher once?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 06, 2021, 20:09:13 pm
To be honest, in my opinion, I reckon that all four of the players that MK released today could do a real job in our team.

Sorry to say that the budget will likely see them out of reach.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 06, 2021, 20:40:40 pm
Didn't we have Fisher once?
Yep on loan don’t think he played much


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 07, 2021, 06:43:39 am
+10.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 07, 2021, 06:44:33 am
+ whatever number we are up to.
Is this how the new committee works?
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 07, 2021, 09:03:52 am
To be honest, in my opinion, I reckon that all four of the players that MK released today could do a real job in our team.

Sorry to say that the budget will likely see them out of reach.

Not that I’m disagreeing with this particularly but none of us have any idea what budget we are going to have for next season - we can speculate and probably won’t be far from the reality but it is just that, speculation.  Out of interest who are the MK 4?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 07, 2021, 09:15:04 am
+ whatever number we are up to.
Is this how the new committee works?

+


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 07, 2021, 09:19:31 am
Not that I’m disagreeing with this particularly but none of us have any idea what budget we are going to have for next season - we can speculate and probably won’t be far from the reality but it is just that, speculation.  Out of interest who are the MK 4?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57008793



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 07, 2021, 09:34:11 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57008793



Thanks for that mate - Agard or Mason sound about right for us with our history of non-scoring strikers.  Plus Nicholls does look a bit on the chunky side in that picture - maybe it’s just unflattering!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Rook Raven on May 09, 2021, 20:15:49 pm
Hi. We would love you to join our new ambitious re-structured club?

And I’m the manager.......Jon Brady.

Who??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: andy scouse on May 09, 2021, 20:56:11 pm
Nicholls is a scouser who likes a drop of pop.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on May 09, 2021, 21:18:43 pm
With Jon Brady being Australian I hope he's watching the Australian A league games on BT as there are some cracking players out there, and not just the British ones. It's easily the equivalent of League 1 and a lot of the Championship clubs. There are only 12 teams and any one of the goalkeepers would be good enough for us. As for a striker, Jamie Maclaren has scored 50 goals in 54 appearances for Melbourne City (owned by the City Group) including 5 in one game against Melbourne Victory. He had previously scored 40 in 53 for Brisbane Roar and 9 in 27 during a spell on loan at Hibs. The Aussie stats are out of date as well as he has scored a total of 101 goals down there. The problem is Man City would probably have first dibs on him as they did with Aaron Mooy and he would probably cost several million. Anyway I can dream.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on May 09, 2021, 21:58:49 pm
Sutton United's pie muncher would be an upgrade at the moment!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on May 09, 2021, 22:12:39 pm
Sutton United's pie muncher would be an upgrade at the moment!

As it happens Sutton United's current goalie is an Aussie.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 09, 2021, 23:35:24 pm
As it happens Sutton United's current goalie is an Aussie.
Makes sense, they’re pie mad here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on May 10, 2021, 07:04:13 am
Ryan Edmundson returns to his parent club. Marcelo Bielsa is unsure if he will make an appearance before the end of the season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 10, 2021, 07:07:42 am
Makes sense, they’re pie mad here.
They are indeed, I was forced to ear one while watching the AFL at the MCG, the pies are massive as well!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 10, 2021, 07:23:01 am
We need another Center half as well because Lloyd Jones is 100% off.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 08:19:26 am
We need another Center half as well because Lloyd Jones is 100% off.

Are you his agent now - hopefully yayo will come on at some point and let us know what’s going on.  I agree with others in that we need to get Watson and Jones to make quick decisions but the problem is that they are both going to be told by their agents not to commit themselves as they will have options.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 10, 2021, 10:57:00 am
Are you his agent now - hopefully yayo will come on at some point and let us know what’s going on.  I agree with others in that we need to get Watson and Jones to make quick decisions but the problem is that they are both going to be told by their agents not to commit themselves as they will have options.
I don’t need to be his agent to know he’ll be off, way too good for L2, a very solid L1 defender.
We shouldn’t wait around for people to make decisions this time around make them the best offer we can give them a week to decide then withdraw it and move on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 11:15:19 am
I don’t need to be his agent to know he’ll be off, way too good for L2, a very solid L1 defender.
We shouldn’t wait around for people to make decisions this time around make them the best offer we can give them a week to decide then withdraw it and move on.

I don’t disagree that he is a decent centre back but the fact that Brady gave him the captaincy and that he is presumably local and he would be a certain starter might sway him?  As I said earlier the problem with giving Watson and Jones an ultimatum is that they will pretty likely be told by their agent to hold fire and assess their options.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 11:16:58 am
I don’t disagree that he is a decent centre back but the fact that Brady gave him the captaincy and that he is presumably local and he would be a certain starter might sway him?  As I said earlier the problem with giving Watson and Jones an ultimatum is that they will pretty likely be told by their agent to hold fire and assess their options.

Players have all of the power.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 11:28:30 am
Players have all of the power.

Decent players have all the power.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 10, 2021, 11:31:11 am
I don’t disagree that he is a decent centre back but the fact that Brady gave him the captaincy and that he is presumably local and he would be a certain starter might sway him?  As I said earlier the problem with giving Watson and Jones an ultimatum is that they will pretty likely be told by their agent to hold fire and assess their options.
Both players should have been given improved terms 2 months ago but the club was tardy .
They will now both go for free i would imagine unless the captaincy and improved wages manage to persuade Jones .
If Hull and Blackpool want you , we have no chance and will get nought as usual .
Reference Oliver last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 10, 2021, 11:34:31 am
Snooze you loose Kelvin. 😴😴😴😴😴🥱


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 10, 2021, 11:53:05 am
I would also like Jones to stay but think he will get better offers elsewhere. Let's not forget several posters were luke warm when he returned because of his performances the previous season when he was not 100% fit.He chose not to stay for the play offs because wanted to make himself available for offers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 11:57:05 am
I completely agree that it’s very unlikely that he’s going to stay but we’re not privy to discussions that he has had/will have with Brady - maybe Brady’s Aussie patter will sell him on staying!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 11:59:37 am
Both players should have been given improved terms 2 months ago but the club was tardy .
They will now both go for free i would imagine unless the captaincy and improved wages manage to persuade Jones .
If Hull and Blackpool want you , we have no chance and will get nought as usual .
Reference Oliver last season.

Two months ago we didn't know which division we were going to be in?
Two months ago, the players could have been offered an opportunity to discuss new terms but declined or indicated that they would wait?
After a 4 goal season, would we have really been busting a gut to retain him (Oliver), especially as he already indicated unofficially that he was staying?

People like to blame clubs for contracts running out.  But they can't do anything if the player and/or agent wants to let their contract run out and see what comes.  
Unless the player isn't confident of attracting attention from other clubs, the players are always on a win/win situation.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on May 10, 2021, 12:00:12 pm
Both players should have been given improved terms 2 months ago but the club was tardy .
They will now both go for free i would imagine unless the captaincy and improved wages manage to persuade Jones .
If Hull and Blackpool want you , we have no chance and will get nought as usual .
Reference Oliver last season.
Maybe they did. If Jones and Watson know they will have offers from other clubs, they are unlikely to be signing new contracts two months before the end of the season. Why would they.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 10, 2021, 12:04:30 pm
Jones interview post match yesterday was definitely an awkward one for him, he's 90% certain to be off but didnt want to say so.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 10, 2021, 12:08:44 pm
I would also like Jones to stay but think he will get better offers elsewhere. Let's not forget several posters were luke warm when he returned because of his performances the previous season when he was not 100% fit.He chose not to stay for the play offs because wanted to make himself available for offers.
He probably will get better offers but how much better? I think I heard he lives in MK so if the likes of Oxford, Wycombe or Pish came in for him, with a better offer, he would go. But if the better offer is Gillingham, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury or Doncaster, it's got to be considerably better to justify the extra travel or moving costs when most clubs only give out 2 year contracts.
    All said and done, it's just a job for the players, they are not as attached to the club as we are.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 12:21:39 pm
He probably will get better offers but how much better? I think I heard he lives in MK so if the likes of Oxford, Wycombe or Pish came in for him, with a better offer, he would go. But if the better offer is Gillingham, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury or Doncaster, it's got to be considerably better to justify the extra travel or moving costs when most clubs only give out 2 year contracts.
    All said and done, it's just a job for the players, they are not as attached to the club as we are.

You're last line sums it up, they are just like the rest of us regarding employment.  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 12:36:20 pm
They are indeed, I was forced to ear one while watching the AFL at the MCG, the pies are massive as well!

And he looked up in pained surprise at the concrete hardened crust, of a stale Four n Twenty caught him in the ear and Manny hit the dust?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 10, 2021, 12:40:17 pm
I think there are many other factors as well as just the league the team is in. Doyle turned down a contract at league 1 Swindon to move to league 2 Bolton. Also L Jones was one of many decent players unable to get a club until Christmas missing out on half a year’s salary. Wage, length of contract, location, likelihood of first team football and manager are just a few other factors.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: andy scouse on May 10, 2021, 13:10:15 pm
This talk about Jones and Watson is getting boring, they will both be gone before the start of next season , if they have admirers higher up the Footie Pyramid then they will be off like with the Oliver situation last season money talks and Cobblers track record of late in competing against other clubs for players signatures is poor. Just accept the situation and move on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 10, 2021, 13:28:15 pm
not even sure watson would be missed that much - goes missing on far too many occasions and has proved time and time again he isn't good enough for league 1 and probably thinks he is too good for league 2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 13:29:27 pm
Aren’t we in danger here of making it sound like they’re Virgil van Dyk and Kevin DeBruyne - Jones didn’t have a club until after Christmas but admittedly has been good for us for 5 months and Watson has been decent at times this season - and gone missing at others - but he has done the rounds without ever really cutting it anywhere longer than a season?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 10, 2021, 14:02:06 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 10, 2021, 14:18:47 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!

I would be surprised if Sheehan is offered anything unless he's Brady's idea of an Assistant Manager. I'd be surprised if Lloyd Jones isn't offered a decent contract for a L2 club (probably not as much as he might be offered by a club higher up the ladder) and Striker Jones may or may not be offered something based on his qualities which the club is in the best position to assess and his physical condition (injury record).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 10, 2021, 14:25:02 pm
If you go with 20 players all on the same level, each player takes 5% of the budget. Obviously that wouldn't happen.

Lloyd Jones would be worth a good 7/8% of the budget (whatever it is), Id install him as captain permanently. He's 25, a very very good player and one we could still potentially sell on so an 'asset' as such...

Alex Jones would be worth no more than about 4% of the budget. Worth a punt but his stock is pretty low after several seasons of no productivity.

So Id be offering Lloyd Jones a bloody good deal and build the defence around him and the Horse. Id do everything I could to keep him, within reason...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on May 10, 2021, 14:27:31 pm
Lloyd Jones looks worthy of a deal, but i suspect he will have a better offer than we can/want to afford. Sheehan cant be offered any type of deal, way past his time, may be ok for non league part time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 10, 2021, 14:33:05 pm
We appear to be on the same page !


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on May 10, 2021, 14:34:29 pm
This talk about Jones and Watson is getting boring, they will both be gone before the start of next season , if they have admirers higher up the Footie Pyramid then they will be off like with the Oliver situation last season money talks and Cobblers track record of late in competing against other clubs for players signatures is poor. Just accept the situation and move on.

Agreed, it happens every year with our best players, will they wont they and its always the latter. Next will be spec about all the players we want, but wont get.

Surprised no one mentioned Luke Chambers coming back for the last part of his career.

Be very interested to see Bradys pulling power and the sort of player he can attract.

Not holding my breath


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 10, 2021, 14:42:17 pm
Think I read somewhere that Paul Cook was hoping that Chambers might sign up with them as a coach next year.  I haven’t seen enough of Alex Jones to be able to make a judgement - possibly something short term with him training with us in the Summer to assess his fitness? If Brady had rated Sheehan as a potential Assistant Manager or coach then he would have made him part of the Brady bunch?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on May 10, 2021, 15:29:49 pm
Both players should have been given improved terms 2 months ago but the club was tardy .
They will now both go for free i would imagine unless the captaincy and improved wages manage to persuade Jones .
If Hull and Blackpool want you , we have no chance and will get nought as usual .
Reference Oliver last season.

Perhaps the players or their agents didn't want talks 2 months ago, it wouldn't be announced, maybe there are offers on the table already?
I don't think the club was slow offering Oliver terms last year, the mistake they made was waiting over a month for his decision.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 10, 2021, 16:34:04 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!

Is Lloyd still going to Milan 12 months ago? as that was a done deal...............or has something changed?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 10, 2021, 20:50:55 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!
correct and someone that knows what he is talking about at last .
What people don’t realise is that we pay low wages to get people playing . The point is , once they have proved their worth we should reward them with a better contract .
We don’t early enough and then guess what - they clear off.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 10, 2021, 21:11:43 pm
Is Lloyd still going to Milan 12 months ago? as that was a done deal...............or has something changed?

Yes he's going shopping with the missus next week to Milan!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 21:12:47 pm
I cannot emphasise enough how important I believe the recruitment is this time around? Always vital, this time it has to be spot on. We can’t afford any hands down the shorts, pitch wanderers with an attitude problem. That was the thing with the Graham Carr era bringing up players from the non league, there was a hunger to live the dream and succeed. I’m not suggesting that is the answer, just pointing out that the right professional approach is vital as alluded to with the new policy?

This is also one of the benefits of playing youngsters, boundless enthusiasm and desire to succeed? It’s really important we get the right blend of professionalism and experience coupled with ambition and enthusiasm? If we bring in or keep the wrong players then all this momentum will get killed stone dead. No Ash Taylor’s, Vent Spleens or other show ponies on an ego trip to sabotage the plan thanks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 10, 2021, 21:13:05 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!

I don’t think you ever did explain why he turned down the contract offer from AC Milan last summer?

Are they back in for him now?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 10, 2021, 21:15:45 pm
You thought I was serious...please. I thought you knew it was a joke? ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 10, 2021, 21:19:27 pm
Yes he's going shopping with the missus next week to Milan!
I think that’s Matalan, spell checker on the blink again?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 10, 2021, 21:40:40 pm
I won't quote figures but Jones, Jones accepted extremely frugal terms on signing short term contracts to get them playing and in the shop window. Sheehan was only getting a third of what the two name sakes earns each week. Unless the basic wage is increased considerably, they will all leave!
Careful mate most of the hard of thinking on here think we have a mid table budget, telling them we pay peanuts doesn’t fit their agenda.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 11, 2021, 07:15:58 am
I think that’s Matalan, spell checker on the blink again?
;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on May 11, 2021, 07:31:11 am
Aren’t we in danger here of making it sound like they’re Virgil van Dyk and Kevin DeBruyne - Jones didn’t have a club until after Christmas but admittedly has been good for us for 5 months and Watson has been decent at times this season - and gone missing at others - but he has done the rounds without ever really cutting it anywhere longer than a season?

I hope not. I prefer players I can spell, Watson and Jones are fine by me.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 11, 2021, 07:45:48 am
Careful mate most of the hard of thinking on here think we have a mid table budget, telling them we pay peanuts doesn’t fit their agenda.

What’s our budget then oh mighty Oracle?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on May 11, 2021, 07:47:44 am
one hundred million dollars. But that still isnt enough and slows lack of ambition :afro


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 11, 2021, 08:02:23 am
Careful mate most of the hard of thinking on here think we have a mid table budget, telling them we pay peanuts doesn’t fit their agenda.

Don’t remember anyone saying we had a mid table budget, just probably not a bottom 4.
Surely it would make sense we signed L Jones, A Jones & Sheehan on peanuts. None had clubs and gone a while without a wage, two had injury issues and the other had failed to impress here at league 2 level. I’m pretty sure they were happy to get anything, they were big gamb1es for the club which paid off to varying degrees.
As for agendas try looking in the mirror!.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 11, 2021, 09:19:09 am
Don’t remember anyone saying we had a mid table budget, just probably not a bottom 4.
Surely it would make sense we signed L Jones, A Jones & Sheehan on peanuts. None had clubs and gone a while without a wage, two had injury issues and the other had failed to impress here at league 2 level. I’m pretty sure they were happy to get anything, they were big gamb1es for the club which paid off to varying degrees.
As for agendas try looking in the mirror!.




Exactly that. I’m not even sure what the debate is here, we obviously picked them up on the cheap, they had all been subject to many months of unemployment. Why would we have paid them anymore!?

Now is the time we reward Jones with a very strong league 2 wage and an armband!

It’s also disappointing that we didn’t build in an option to extend in the clubs favour. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 11, 2021, 09:21:05 am
What was the story KC said about L Jones last summer?

I recall it came out in December time about how it took a while for KC to trust him again. Hence having to train for a month or so without being offered terms.

Something to do with him saying he was signing but never did??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 11, 2021, 09:43:17 am
What was the story KC said about L Jones last summer?

I recall it came out in December time about how it took a while for KC to trust him again. Hence having to train for a month or so without being offered terms.

Something to do with him saying he was signing but never did??

This? https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-lost-trust-jones-after-he-pulled-out-play-offs-town-boss-praises-defender-working-hard-win-it-back-3128916

I don't really feel Jones did much wrong. The season ended in a weird way. Luton, I think released players before the restart of the championship. He had an offer on the table and wanted to go for it. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 11, 2021, 10:00:43 am
This? https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-lost-trust-jones-after-he-pulled-out-play-offs-town-boss-praises-defender-working-hard-win-it-back-3128916

I don't really feel Jones did much wrong. The season ended in a weird way. Luton, I think released players before the restart of the championship. He had an offer on the table and wanted to go for it. 

That’s the one! Different to what I recalled. Seems fair enough, an injury would of left him without an income (even if Milan were interested!).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 11, 2021, 11:09:12 am
Don’t remember anyone saying we had a mid table budget, just probably not a bottom 4.
Surely it would make sense we signed L Jones, A Jones & Sheehan on peanuts. None had clubs and gone a while without a wage, two had injury issues and the other had failed to impress here at league 2 level. I’m pretty sure they were happy to get anything, they were big gamb1es for the club which paid off to varying degrees.
As for agendas try looking in the mirror!.



Ironic you responded when I mentioned hard of thinking, it would be interesting to know where our budget was at the start of the season and then after the Jan window?
Irrespective of this the gross negligence by the chairman has seen us relegated yet again FACT.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Cordwainer2 on May 11, 2021, 12:19:54 pm
Luke Chambers gets released by Ipswich!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on May 11, 2021, 12:26:27 pm
was down at Sixfields today in the shop making some purchases and I saw Daniel Powell walking in the recepti


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 11, 2021, 12:31:33 pm
Emyr Huws also released.. He didnt do a bad job for us when he was here before


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 11, 2021, 12:39:15 pm
was down at Sixfields today in the shop making some purchases and I saw Daniel Powell walking in the recepti

Please tell me that this is either a bad joke or mistaken identity?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on May 11, 2021, 12:44:53 pm
Please tell me that this is either a bad joke or mistaken identity?

if it wasn't him he has a twin brother


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 11, 2021, 12:52:15 pm
if it wasn't him he has a twin brother

To be honest, I thought that when he was here. Unfortunately we saw the twin more than the footballer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 11, 2021, 13:01:35 pm
To be honest, I thought that when he was here. Unfortunately we saw the twin more than the footballer.

Good one!  The mind boggles if we bring a player that wasn’t good enough for us 2 years ago.  Having said that - a look at his stats from his time at Crewe (10 goals in 42 appearances) isn’t too shabby?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 11, 2021, 13:16:03 pm
So the momentum is building, so far we are signing:

Lee Nichols
Luke Chambers
Daniel Powell
Emyr Huws.

I wonder if there are any players available that haven’t previously played for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 11, 2021, 13:17:16 pm
So the momentum is building, so far we are signing:

Lee Nichols
Luke Chambers
Daniel Powell
Emyr Huws.

I wonder if there are any players available that haven’t previously played for us?
No.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 11, 2021, 13:20:48 pm
Good one!  The mind boggles if we bring a player that wasn’t good enough for us 2 years ago.  Having said that - a look at his stats from his time at Crewe (10 goals in 42 appearances) isn’t too shabby?
I struggle to think of a more frustrating Cobblers player than Daniel Powell, He's got it all, pace, build and football ability, if only someone could get him some "bottle" ! But if he had that he wouldn't have been released by MK, us or Crewe.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 11, 2021, 13:44:53 pm
I struggle to think of a more frustrating Cobblers player than Daniel Powell, He's got it all, pace, build and football ability, if only someone could get him some "bottle" ! But if he had that he wouldn't have been released by MK, us or Crewe.

He’s probably now been round the block enough times to say that the penny isn’t going to drop for him but that won’t stop Manager’s from thinking they’re the one that can harness all that potential.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on May 11, 2021, 14:28:21 pm
I see Mo Eisa and Ryan Broom have been made available for transfer from them down the river. Both decent players


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on May 11, 2021, 14:34:46 pm
I see Mo Eisa and Ryan Broom have been made available for transfer from them down the river. Both decent players

I think that is more to do with their policy of transfer listing players in the last year of their contract...no way would they come here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on May 11, 2021, 14:50:54 pm
Ryan Broom has two years left on his contract. Looks like he hadn't been a success at Boro.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 11, 2021, 15:03:38 pm
OK, so that's the GK position sorted.  ;D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57069136


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 11, 2021, 15:10:18 pm
OK, so that's the GK position sorted.  ;D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57069136

To old  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 11, 2021, 15:55:39 pm
To old  ;D

Well, as the saying goes, "If you're old enough, you're good enough"  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on May 11, 2021, 15:57:45 pm
"Cian Bolger has an option in his contract"  ::)
Think Mitchell deserves another crack. Hopefully, Derby County will loan him out again... preferably to one of our League Two rivals vying for promotion!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 11, 2021, 16:43:38 pm
Ironic you responded when I mentioned hard of thinking, it would be interesting to know where our budget was at the start of the season and then after the Jan window?
Irrespective of this the gross negligence by the chairman has seen us relegated yet again FACT.

I’m not convinced you know how to use the word ironic!. I thought you knew what the budget was with your ‘source at the club’. I’m no fan of KT and there are plenty of things to hammer him on without having to make up ‘facts’ about the budget.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 11, 2021, 19:43:51 pm
Add Joe Widdowson to the list of available former Cobblers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 11, 2021, 20:43:20 pm
I’m not convinced you know how to use the word ironic!. I thought you knew what the budget was with your ‘source at the club’. I’m no fan of KT and there are plenty of things to hammer him on without having to make up ‘facts’ about the budget.
Where did I say the budget was fact, I was told that our budget at the start of the season was one of the lowest?
I think that probably improved a little after Jan when we signed some loan players, giving rise to James Whiting claiming it was not in the bottom four.
As for your knowledge of the use of irony here’s the definition so you can educate yourself,
Irony has two formal uses that are not as common in general prose as its more casual uses. One refers to Socratic irony—a method of revealing an opponent’s ignorance by pretending to be ignorant yourself and asking probing questions


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 12, 2021, 05:10:44 am
Emyr Huws also released.. He didnt do a bad job for us when he was here before
No he didnt, he just watched the ball sail over his head.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 12, 2021, 06:29:36 am
"Cian Bolger has an option in his contract"  ::)
Think Mitchell deserves another crack. Hopefully, Derby County will loan him out again... preferably to one of our League Two rivals vying for promotion!
Mitchell - i doubt it - you might understand why Derby are in financial difficulties if you knew the details .
Bolger - if he’s back here next season i will be amazed . Someone else will take him and Lincoln will be more than happy .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 12, 2021, 06:50:46 am
Bolger - if he’s back here next season i will be amazed . Someone else will take him and Lincoln will be more than happy .

all depends on the money!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 12, 2021, 06:54:37 am
all depends on the money!

not really


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 07:10:24 am
Mitchell - i doubt it - you might understand why Derby are in financial difficulties if you knew the details .


Go on then... let us see if we will understand.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 12, 2021, 07:53:49 am
Mitchell - i doubt it - you might understand why Derby are in financial difficulties if you knew the details .
Bolger - if he’s back here next season i will be amazed . Someone else will take him and Lincoln will be more than happy .

Have I missed something? What’s it got to do with Lincoln?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 12, 2021, 08:56:54 am
Have I missed something? What’s it got to do with Lincoln?
Quite a lot .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 12, 2021, 09:10:11 am
Quite a lot .
Like What? 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 09:17:39 am
Like What? 

Knowledge is power... ::) 8)
JB needs to be careful who he allows information to be leaked to.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 12, 2021, 09:29:39 am
Like What? 

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 12, 2021, 10:24:20 am
Knowledge is power... ::) 8)
JB needs to be careful who he allows information to be leaked to.

Looks like we're going to be in for a summer of cryptic posts from Boot & Shoe, who may or may not know the truth on things  ::)

The only one I believe is ntfclad. His information is always correct. I agree with Deepcut JB need to be a little careful.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 12, 2021, 10:43:00 am
Looks like we're going to be in for a summer of cryptic posts from Boot & Shoe, who may or may not know the truth on things  ::)

The only one I believe is ntfclad. His information is always correct. I agree with Deepcut JB need to be a little careful.
Just to be clear , i am not aware of anything outside of the public domain and cannot give cryptic clues about anything but some things are common sense and clear for everyone to see if you look hard enough .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 12, 2021, 11:05:05 am
Just to be clear , i am not aware of anything outside of the public domain and cannot give cryptic clues about anything but some things are common sense and clear for everyone to see if you look hard enough .
But if it's that clear why not just post it ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 12, 2021, 11:05:30 am
Just to be clear , i am not aware of anything outside of the public domain and cannot give cryptic clues about anything but some things are common sense and clear for everyone to see if you look hard enough .

https://footballleaguefc.com/derby-county-2019-20-player-wages/

2 grand a week if you believe this website. Not bad!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 11:23:46 am
One way of raising funds for those big summer signings I guess.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/confusion-people-getting-covid-vaccine-24089627


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 12, 2021, 11:30:52 am
But if it's that clear why not just post it ?

He still thinks Stevenage away end has pillar supports which obstruct view. It hasn’t!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 12, 2021, 11:35:01 am
I have just googled 'Will Lincoln City be happy if Cian Bolger leaves Northampton?'

The results were inconclusive.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 12, 2021, 11:39:34 am
I have just googled 'Will Lincoln City be happy if Cian Bolger leaves Northampton?'

The results were inconclusive.

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 11:55:19 am
I have just googled 'Will Lincoln City be happy if Cian Bolger leaves Northampton?'

The results were inconclusive.

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 12, 2021, 11:58:04 am
I am rather surprised that the club have not announced that certain players under contract are available for transfer. Usually we have played with 1 striker and 2 supporting wide attackers. We still have super Sam and will need to sign other wide attacking options. However, in the striking department we have Rose, Smith, Chuks and BAS with Jones invited back for pre season training, if we sign another 2 new strikers we then have 6/7 players for 1/2 positions which is too many.
Talking of strikers I see Mansfield have released Andy Cook, still only 30, whose strike rate in the lower divisions is quite impressive with 171 goals from 477 appearances (about 16 goals in a full season).
Regarding Bolger having an option in his favour of another season there was also an option on Korboa which must have been in the club's favour as he has been released. I wonder why the 2 options were different.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 12, 2021, 12:03:38 pm
I am rather surprised that the club have not announced that certain players under contract are available for transfer. Usually we have played with 1 striker and 2 supporting wide attackers. We still have super Sam and will need to sign other wide attacking options. However, in the striking department we have Rose, Smith, Chuks and BAS with Jones invited back for pre season training, if we sign another 2 new strikers we then have 6/7 players for 1/2 positions which is too many.
Talking of strikers I see Mansfield have released Andy Cook, still only 30, whose strike rate in the lower divisions is quite impressive with 171 goals from 477 appearances (about 16 goals in a full season).
Regarding Bolger having an option in his favour of another season there was also an option on Korboa which must have been in the club's favour as he has been released. I wonder why the 2 options were different.

Brady has stated in the chron he wants to play with 2 strikers next season. I dont think he see Hoskins as a one of those.

With regards to Bolger i assume there is a relegation wage reduction and he will wait and see if he can get a better wage elsewhere


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 12, 2021, 12:13:41 pm
Brady has stated in the chron he wants to play with 2 strikers next season. I dont think he see Hoskins as a one of those.

With regards to Bolger i assume there is a relegation wage reduction and he will wait and see if he can get a better wage elsewhere

Surely Wigan or Wimbledon owe him a contract seeing as he played a part in keeping them up. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 12, 2021, 12:14:40 pm
I have just googled 'Will Lincoln City be happy if Cian Bolger leaves Northampton?'

The results were inconclusive.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on May 12, 2021, 12:28:16 pm
John Joe O'Toole just released up at Burton

Pretty sure still has his house local

Would you have him back?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 12, 2021, 13:03:23 pm
Just to be clear , i am not aware of anything outside of the public domain and cannot give cryptic clues about anything but some things are common sense and clear for everyone to see if you look hard enough .

Thanks for your contribution. Very insightful.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 12, 2021, 13:05:31 pm
John Joe O'Toole just released up at Burton

Pretty sure still has his house local

Would you have him back?

He could be a useful squad player. But I think we need to be looking elsewhere. Jimmy really isn't keen on him though is he!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 12, 2021, 13:06:12 pm
Quite a lot .

Assume you mean absolutely nothing then.

I bet you’re fun down the local.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 12, 2021, 13:09:55 pm
I would not have JJO'T back as his best days are behind him. Could never understand Burton playing him at centre back as he never impressed there.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 12, 2021, 13:39:37 pm
The problem with John-joe is you don't know which John-Joe you are going to get. Will it be the:

  • Free scoring Bristol Rovers John-Joe?
  • First spell sulky Cobblers John-Joe?
  • Sent back from loan Southend John-Joe?
  • Glorious midfield general Cobblers John-Joe?
  • Jaded Cobblers John-Joe?
  • Out of favour centre back Burton John-Joe?

It's too much of a gamble as to which one you'd get, especially now age isn't on his side. He'll always be a Cobblers legend though - probably best to leave it that way than sour the memory with an iffy return.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 12, 2021, 14:10:13 pm
But if it's that clear why not just post it ?
I know absolutely nothing about it, but the only logical explanation is that Lincoln are still paying some of his wages while he's with us as part of the transfer last year. If he leaves, they're no longer obligated to do that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 14:16:15 pm
John Joe O'Toole just released up at Burton

Pretty sure still has his house local

Would you have him back?

No, his best years are well behind him, so let's move on


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 14:18:07 pm
I know absolutely nothing about it, but the only logical explanation is that Lincoln are still paying some of his wages while he's with us as part of the transfer last year. If he leaves, they're no longer obligated to do that.

I'm more intrigued by the Derby issue that we would understand if we knew the details?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 12, 2021, 14:24:40 pm
I'm more intrigued by the Derby issue that we would understand if we knew the details?  ;D

Its true, if only you knew.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 12, 2021, 14:53:27 pm
Ryan Allsop just been released by Wycombe, could be a great fix for our first team keeper?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 12, 2021, 15:38:48 pm
Lewis Ward released by Exeter. He was on loan with us when he was at Reading, but I can't place him at all?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 12, 2021, 15:57:05 pm
Lewis Ward released by Exeter. He was on loan with us when he was at Reading, but I can't place him at all?!
Then why would you want him back?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on May 12, 2021, 17:13:11 pm
I'm more intrigued by the Derby issue that we would understand if we knew the details?  ;D

Don't you know then? I thought everyone knew about that. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 12, 2021, 18:06:15 pm
Don't you know then? I thought everyone knew about that. ;D

Easy to find out. It’s in the public domain after all!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 12, 2021, 18:58:09 pm
Easy to find out. It’s in the public domain after all!

www.publicdomainfootball.com


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 12, 2021, 19:49:51 pm
There's a chance with Lloyd Jones...hes considering it at the very least...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 12, 2021, 20:16:14 pm
There's a chance with Lloyd Jones...hes considering it at the very least...

So, are we saying he’s not 100% gone FACT?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 12, 2021, 20:20:15 pm
That is a fact....but there other offers. He is based in Milton Keynes but family are all in Exeter! For me hopefully being made captain for the last game shows Brady's intent and belief in him...maybe that can swing it!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 13, 2021, 08:47:19 am
There's a chance with Lloyd Jones...hes considering it at the very least...

until he gets another offer


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 09:04:09 am
To me Jones is the one player we need to resign. Looks a very good centre half.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 09:34:45 am
Apparently no other contract offers from other clubs at the moment for Lloyd. He is happy with the club and the manager and settled in the area. Wages aren't the sticking point with the new offer that has been made. The sticking point is surrounding the issue of whether we have sufficient firepower to make us competitive at the very top end of the of the division next season. Recruitment is key!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 13, 2021, 09:57:33 am
Apparently no other contract offers from other clubs at the moment for Lloyd. He is happy with the club and the manager and settled in the area. Wages aren't the sticking point with the new offer that has been made. The sticking point is surrounding the issue of whether we have sufficient firepower to make us competitive at the very top end of the of the division next season. Recruitment is key!
A job for our illustrious chairman to convince Lloyd of our intentions.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 13, 2021, 10:08:23 am
Apparently no other contract offers from other clubs at the moment for Lloyd. He is happy with the club and the manager and settled in the area. Wages aren't the sticking point with the new offer that has been made. The sticking point is surrounding the issue of whether we have sufficient firepower to make us competitive at the very top end of the of the division next season. Recruitment is key!

which translates as its a decent offer, but if someone better offers him the same he is off.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 13, 2021, 10:27:52 am
The sticking point is surrounding the issue of whether we have sufficient firepower to make us competitive at the very top end of the of the division next season. Recruitment is key!

I guess Jones has a different opinion than some on here who feel Rose et al with be fine and score a decent amount of goals in league 2, I tend to agree with him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 10:32:35 am
Captaincy could be a clincher!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 13, 2021, 10:33:51 am
Cornell is available if we want him back as in addition to their released list Ipswich have told many of the players still under contract to look for other clubs. This includes Dai and their other 'keeper Holy who was rated quite highly during his time at Gillingham.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 13, 2021, 11:09:27 am
Shrewsbury have just released 12 players.
Donald Love, Ro-williams and Sean Goss could all do a job for us.
Donald Love played a few 1st team games for Man Utd under Moyes


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Buster on May 13, 2021, 11:19:59 am
I very much doubt Jones will sign. He was offered terms last summer but held out looking for a better offer elsewhere. Let’s not forget he only came here when he did because his preferred choices fell through.

It won’t make or break our season either way...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 13, 2021, 11:28:37 am
I very much doubt Jones will sign. He was offered terms last summer but held out looking for a better offer elsewhere. Let’s not forget he only came here when he did because his preferred choices fell through.

It won’t make or break our season either way...

After this season I think 3 of the back 4 being kept would be a huge improvement.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 11:38:32 am
which translates as its a decent offer, but if someone better offers him the same he is off.


Not sure about that as probably will match any offer made by most League One Clubs and more! Perhaps a genuine aspiring Championship Club might be more realistic. Would like to see him resign if only to ensure some (sages) are wrong.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 13, 2021, 11:44:38 am
Sam Baldock realised by Reading, might do a job for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 13, 2021, 12:37:30 pm
Apparently no other contract offers from other clubs at the moment for Lloyd. He is happy with the club and the manager and settled in the area. Wages aren't the sticking point with the new offer that has been made. The sticking point is surrounding the issue of whether we have sufficient firepower to make us competitive at the very top end of the of the division next season. Recruitment is key!

But surely recruitment is going to be a longer term process and won’t necessarily be something we’re going to be able to do within weeks? Is he going to hold off making a decision until we make signings in which case it might not be for weeks/months?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 14:07:45 pm
Sam Baldock realised by Reading, might do a job for us?

At 32years?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on May 13, 2021, 14:17:29 pm
Not sure about that as probably will match any offer made by most League One Clubs and more! Perhaps a genuine aspiring Championship Club might be more realistic. Would like to see him resign if only to ensure some (sages) are wrong.
I'm interested to see your main reason for wanting Jones to re-sign. Get one over other fans, as usual.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on May 13, 2021, 14:39:17 pm
Brady remains optimistic that Jones and Watson will sign
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/boss-brady-optimistic-watson-and-jones-will-stay-on-at-cobblers-3235572


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 13, 2021, 14:42:25 pm
Probably the most important announcement after the manager - the head of recruitment - has yet to be announced ......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 13, 2021, 14:50:42 pm
Probably the most important announcement after the manager - the head of recruitment - has yet to be announced ......

I keep on harping on about so apologies but who was it on here that said Marc Webber had tweeted that it was going to be Ian Atkins or have I dreamt that?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 13, 2021, 16:19:27 pm
I keep on harping on about so apologies but who was it on here that said Marc Webber had tweeted that it was going to be Ian Atkins or have I dreamt that?

You didn't dream it Irchy. Someone definitely mentioned it. He's currently scouting for Wolves, so maybe he won't be released until the Prem season has finished - if it's true of course.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BirdyNTFC on May 13, 2021, 16:26:39 pm
Paul Coutts, Mark Duffy & Josh Morris released by Fleetwood.

All had they’re moments and a bit old now but maybe the creative spark we need in L2?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 16:27:27 pm
In answer to your question Irchy....he is going away on holiday next week, coming back, then is going away on holiday again after a week again...time to ponder and reflect. I think if he is unsure after that then the club will have to move on and look at other players.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 13, 2021, 16:43:36 pm
In answer to your question Irchy....he is going away on holiday next week, coming back, then is going away on holiday again after a week again...time to ponder and reflect. I think if he is unsure after that then the club will have to move on and look at other players.

I take it you mean Lloyd Jones and not the question raised about Ian Atkins  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 16:53:50 pm
Indeed Teachers Pet....sorry messaged after work and 3 beers in so my prose isn't as coherent as usual!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 17:20:39 pm
I'm interested to see your main reason for wanting Jones to re-sign. Get one over other fans, as usual.

I find your message (its hardly an opinion) appears to suit your personal agenda; I still hope that the Club is successful in resigning players and prove those who feel other wise incorrect! Under the circumstances you should be prepared to consider withdrawing your cheap jibe 'get one over........as usual' comment.  
 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on May 13, 2021, 17:49:57 pm
KVV? Yes please. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on May 13, 2021, 17:50:14 pm
I'm only half joking


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 13, 2021, 18:01:41 pm
I'm only half joking

Normally I'm against going back for old players but on a free transfer and on a performance / appearance related contract (due to injuries in the past season), I'd fully support us re-signing KVV! He is a very talented player for L2 level and I don't think we saw the best of him whatsoever. Could Brady coach better results from him than JFH and Curle could? I reckon so


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 13, 2021, 19:02:53 pm
The great Kevin "I'm too good for division 2" van Veen let go by a club that narrowly avoided dropping out of the league. No I would not want him back, he didn't want to come the first time and had a half arsed attitude when he was here. I would rather have a player giving 100% for 90 minutes even if less gifted than KVV who flits in and out of games and your lucky to get 45 minutes. I cannot see him wanting to come back after getting a standing ovation when he was sent off. As a Sc***horpe fan says it is a matter of if he is fit, if he is in the right mood, if he has team mates on the same wavelength then you will get the odd decent performance, too many ifs.
I see PNE have released, the often talked about on here but I've failed to see why, Nugent along with Louis Moult and Billy Bodin both who have had injury problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 19:11:53 pm
Normally I'm against going back for old players but on a free transfer and on a performance / appearance related contract (due to injuries in the past season), I'd fully support us re-signing KVV! He is a very talented player for L2 level and I don't think we saw the best of him whatsoever. Could Brady coach better results from him than JFH and Curle could? I reckon so

Blimey brave opinion as it will inflame some. 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 13, 2021, 19:15:07 pm
Sc***horpe have also released Abo Eisa, Alex Gilliead and Jem Karacan who are all decent.  Moult and Bodin would be worth a look if fully fit but I’m guessing they’ll be on a decent wage.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 19:17:47 pm
The great Kevin "I'm too good for division 2" van Veen let go by a club that narrowly avoided dropping out of the league. No I would not want him back, he didn't want to come the first time and had a half arsed attitude when he was here. I would rather have a player giving 100% for 90 minutes even if less gifted than KVV who flits in and out of games and your lucky to get 45 minutes. I cannot see him wanting to come back after getting a standing ovation when he was sent off. As a Sc***horpe fan says it is a matter of if he is fit, if he is in the right mood, if he has team mates on the same wavelength then you will get the odd decent performance, too many ifs.
I see PNE have released, the often talked about on here but I've failed to see why, Nugent along with Louis Moult and Billy Bodin both who have had injury problems.

I too liked Kevin, not sure if he would fit in Jon Brady et al team concept of a team of good Britishers?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 13, 2021, 19:18:11 pm
In answer to your question Irchy....he is going away on holiday next week, coming back, then is going away on holiday again after a week again...time to ponder and reflect. I think if he is unsure after that then the club will have to move on and look at other players.

On a separate note, where is he going on these holidays?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 19:36:04 pm
Italy, Milan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 13, 2021, 19:42:05 pm
Italy, Milan

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 20:15:38 pm
Italy, Milan

Red List if he somehow gets there and then a 10 day at Holiday Inn on return


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 13, 2021, 20:27:15 pm
Red List if he somehow gets there and then a 10 day at Holiday Inn on return

Are you serious?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 13, 2021, 20:39:39 pm
Are you serious?

Unfortunately, yes he will be...  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 13, 2021, 20:48:32 pm
Are you serious?

No of course not as I naturally assumed you weren't or was it sarcasm?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 13, 2021, 20:55:04 pm
Red List if he somehow gets there and then a 10 day at Holiday Inn on return
Italy is on the Amber list


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 13, 2021, 21:12:18 pm
the band are possibly back together again


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 13, 2021, 22:06:00 pm
the band are possibly back together again

??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 13, 2021, 22:25:16 pm
the band are possibly back together again

Player, assistant or head of recruitment?

Calderwood as assistant perhaps?

I know he's assistant at Blackpool atm & being linked to the managers job at Orient but if he still lives local, you never know I guess...

He was meant to be our head of the International Academy back in October 2020...

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/october/calderwood_international_academy/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/october/calderwood_international_academy/)



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 14, 2021, 05:19:10 am
He is still local - he lives in Boughton.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 05:33:06 am
If we resign Vent Spleen it appears our new recruitment policy will be to bring in petulant show ponies with an attitude problem and a disruptive influence in the dressing room? Not totally convinced that’s the intention?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 06:22:03 am
If we resign Vent Spleen it appears our new recruitment policy will be to bring in petulant show ponies with an attitude problem and a disruptive influence in the dressing room? Not totally convinced that’s the intention?

Was he? Or was he a player who wanted to win every game which wasn't necessarily reflected in the rest of the dressing room??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 14, 2021, 06:51:28 am
Was he? Or was he a player who wanted to win every game which wasn't necessarily reflected in the rest of the dressing room??
He was just mis understood, a complex character  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 14, 2021, 06:58:45 am
the band are possibly back together again

Parrish as assistant? The club are having a bit of a dig at him on Facebook this morning talking about him scoring a tap in against Cardiff in the playoffs...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 14, 2021, 07:31:09 am
Italy, Milan

 ;D ;D Brilliant


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 14, 2021, 07:56:35 am
Parrish as assistant? The club are having a bit of a dig at him on Facebook this morning talking about him scoring a tap in against Cardiff in the playoffs...

His Twitter Account Slogan HARD WORK beats talent, when talent doesn't WORK HARD!!!!!!

Seems to fit with JB's stance


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 14, 2021, 09:02:31 am
His Twitter Account Slogan HARD WORK beats talent, when talent doesn't WORK HARD!!!!!!

Seems to fit with JB's stance

Pure speculation on my part but he was academy manager for us (although I think that was before Brady's time) and is currently U23 assistant manager at Wolves (who also employ a certain Mr Atkins...)

He has strong links to the club though, which is also something Brady seems to value


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 09:06:32 am
Pure speculation on my part but he was academy manager for us (although I think that was before Brady's time) and is currently U23 assistant manager at Wolves (who also employ a certain Mr Atkins...)

He has strong links to the club though, which is also something Brady seems to value

He could have warned us about BAS before we paid money for him!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 14, 2021, 09:19:32 am
He could have warned us about BAS before we paid money for him!  ;D

That’s just what I was thinking - if we get Parrish as Assistant Manager and Atkins as Head of Recruitment are we recreating the Wolves set up and if so why didn’t we get any warnings about BAS.  Who knows, he might come good next season but he’s shown nothing so far to suggest it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 14, 2021, 10:06:37 am
Pure speculation on my part but he was academy manager for us (although I think that was before Brady's time) and is currently U23 assistant manager at Wolves (who also employ a certain Mr Atkins...)

He has strong links to the club though, which is also something Brady seems to value
Sean Parrish is a good mate of Sammo.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 11:20:52 am
That’s just what I was thinking - if we get Parrish as Assistant Manager and Atkins as Head of Recruitment are we recreating the Wolves set up and if so why didn’t we get any warnings about BAS.  Who knows, he might come good next season but he’s shown nothing so far to suggest it.

Will we get to wear the Portuguese kit?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 14, 2021, 11:33:58 am
Among a long list of released Swindon players are Missilou and Hallam Hope.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 12:00:58 pm
Among a long list of released Swindon players are Missilou and Hallam Hope.

If Curle get's the Oldham job permanently, both will probably end up there!

I've always rated Hope tbh...still only 27


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 14, 2021, 12:11:15 pm
Among a long list of released Swindon players are Missilou and Hallam Hope.
No surprise with Missilou, as for BAS he needs a job that involves rolling around on the ground, breakdancer ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 14, 2021, 12:19:13 pm
Lee Novak from Bradford has been released he wouldnt be a bad signing if brady can get the best out of him


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on May 14, 2021, 15:23:58 pm
So Powell got released by Crewe, backs up my spot at Sixfields the other day


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 14, 2021, 15:37:21 pm
So Powell got released by Crewe, backs up my spot at Sixfields the other day

It’s ironic that with all the ex Cobblers being “linked” this is probably the one that least excites me and the one most likely to happen.  I suppose he could do a job in League 2 but he’s been in and out of Crewe’s side a lot due to injury this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 15:47:03 pm
Was he? Or was he a player who wanted to win every game which wasn't necessarily reflected in the rest of the dressing room??
A mature, logical and interesting interpretation that puts my somewhat emotional outburst to shame. Still think he’s a knob though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 14, 2021, 16:31:07 pm
A mature, logical and interesting interpretation that puts my somewhat emotional outburst to shame. Still think he’s a knob though.

 ;D 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on May 15, 2021, 06:40:08 am
So Powell got released by Crewe, backs up my spot at Sixfields the other day

If he is resigned it just shows the ambition of the club


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 15, 2021, 09:23:46 am
Long time no see.

I think the most important signing for us is going to be the goalkeeper, who was the last dependable one we had? Who would be available and decent for L2?

I don't think we will see any strikers in unless some move on, think Chuk should be starting every game at L2 level if he is still with us.

On the current squad, is this what we have at the moment?

GK: Woods (Academy)

Defenders: Harriman, Bolger (Maybe gone), Horsfall, Mills, Dyche, Flanagan

Midfielders: Sowerby, McWilliams, Cross

Forwards: Hoskins, Chuk, Rose, Smith, BAS



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 15, 2021, 14:13:37 pm
Bryn Morris is on the release list for Pompey today. I for one would be happy to see him return! I think he is a League One level player and could see him being someone to control games for us in League Two. Also if we are going to play two strikers as Brady mentioned I think McWilliams and Morris will be able to play as a two in the middle of the pitch quite well as they compliment each other's skillsets nicely. What are everyone's thoughts on Morris returning?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2021, 14:20:25 pm
Bryn Morris is on the release list for Pompey today. I for one would be happy to see him return! I think he is a League One level player and could see him being someone to control games for us in League Two. Also if we are going to play two strikers as Brady mentioned I think McWilliams and Morris will be able to play as a two in the middle of the pitch quite well as they compliment each other's skillsets nicely. What are everyone's thoughts on Morris returning?

It’s all about opinions but not for me thanks. He started off pretty well but then it got to the point where I didn’t even realise he was playing. Plus he is very, very slow.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 15, 2021, 15:34:03 pm
Bryn Morris is on the release list for Pompey today. I for one would be happy to see him return! I think he is a League One level player and could see him being someone to control games for us in League Two. Also if we are going to play two strikers as Brady mentioned I think McWilliams and Morris will be able to play as a two in the middle of the pitch quite well as they compliment each other's skillsets nicely. What are everyone's thoughts on Morris returning?
6/10 for me. Not quite a midfield general, not quite a dominant tackling type, not quite a quality ball player. An ok sort of player so wouldn’t be thrilled to see him sign, but we could do worse if that makes sense?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 15, 2021, 15:35:13 pm
I wouldn’t sign Morris, If we didn’t already have Sowerby contracted then maybe but I would rather see the budget spent elsewhere on more creative midfielders.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 15, 2021, 15:39:24 pm
I wouldn’t sign Morris, If we didn’t already have Sowerby contracted then maybe but I would rather see the budget spent elsewhere on more creative midfielders.

Exactly, Morris pretty much the same type of player as Sowerby, who's already in contract so a definite no from me...

JB has said he wants pace, power & athleticism...that in itself rules out a Morris return...

So many players available so the sooner we appoint the head of recruitment the better...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 15, 2021, 16:03:54 pm
Unfortunately the pace, power and athleticism thing would apply to Daniel Powell - just a shame JB didn’t add end product.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 15, 2021, 16:44:30 pm
Bryn Morris is on the release list for Pompey today. I for one would be happy to see him return! I think he is a League One level player and could see him being someone to control games for us in League Two. Also if we are going to play two strikers as Brady mentioned I think McWilliams and Morris will be able to play as a two in the middle of the pitch quite well as they compliment each other's skillsets nicely. What are everyone's thoughts on Morris returning?
Bang on the money for me OCoole. Would definitely do a job for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on May 15, 2021, 16:57:53 pm
Long time no see.

I think the most important signing for us is going to be the goalkeeper, who was the last dependable one we had? Who would be available and decent for L2?

I don't think we will see any strikers in unless some move on, think Chuk should be starting every game at L2 level if he is still with us.

On the current squad, is this what we have at the moment?

GK: Woods (Academy)

Defenders: Harriman, Bolger (Maybe gone), Horsfall, Mills, Dyche, Flanagan

Midfielders: Sowerby, McWilliams, Cross

Forwards: Hoskins, Chuk, Rose, Smith, BAS



Don't we still have Dylan Berry as a goalkeeper, he was the choice ahead of Woods before he got injured.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 15, 2021, 18:37:16 pm
Don't we still have Dylan Berry as a goalkeeper, he was the choice ahead of Woods before he got injured.

I think so, can't see him listed anywhere though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 15, 2021, 20:15:38 pm
Bryn Morris is on the release list for Pompey today. I for one would be happy to see him return! I think he is a League One level player and could see him being someone to control games for us in League Two. Also if we are going to play two strikers as Brady mentioned I think McWilliams and Morris will be able to play as a two in the middle of the pitch quite well as they compliment each other's skillsets nicely. What are everyone's thoughts on Morris returning?
Yep I’d definitely have him back, miles better than Sowerby, a McWilliams and Morris pairing would be more than good enough for the pub league.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on May 15, 2021, 20:36:49 pm
Yep I’d definitely have him back, miles better than Sowerby, a McWilliams and Morris pairing would be more than good enough for the pub league.

I wonder will you ever post without making any form of derogatory comment ??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 15, 2021, 20:52:41 pm
Yep I’d definitely have him back, miles better than Sowerby, a McWilliams and Morris pairing would be more than good enough for the pub league.

It’s a little bit worrying that if we get Morris back, Watson and Lloyd sign we only have 2 spots in the starting line up left to fill, a RB and GK.

Last year our RB was one of our strongest players.

Last year our starting 11 bar a couple of individuals were absolutely piss poor.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 15, 2021, 21:08:10 pm
It’s a little bit worrying that if we get Morris back, Watson and Lloyd sign we only have 2 spots in the starting line up left to fill, a RB and GK.

Last year our RB was one of our strongest players.

Last year our starting 11 bar a couple of individuals were absolutely **** poor.

Arguably 4 or 5 spots, as we will need new wide players (Hoskins might not be guaranteed a start) along with a new forward. Mills might have competition at LB also.

In my opinion the centre back and centre midfield areas were by far our strongest areas of the pitch last season and do not require revolution particularly as the comparative quality of the division will be comfortably worse next year. We need considerable improvements in our goalkeeper and wide players. A midfield playmaker with a bit of pace who can play between the lines would also make a huge difference. The wide players need to have the ability to beat their defender 1v1 and have decent delivery. Once these are in place I can actually see our forwards scoring a lot more.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 15, 2021, 21:14:25 pm
Bang on the money for me OCoole. Would definitely do a job for us.

So you basically want the midfield 3 that was consistently embarrassed in league 1. Progress.

Why on earth would we be clammering to resign anyone from this f***ing terrible season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2021, 05:55:46 am
So you basically want the midfield 3 that was consistently embarrassed in league 1. Progress.

Why on earth would we be clammering to resign anyone from this **** terrible season.

I reckon I agree with your posts more often that any other poster. And this is bang on the money for me. I’d be devastated if we had two of them let alone three.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 16, 2021, 06:59:43 am
I just think we need to be cautious with how we use our budget for next season. For me it’s clear the two areas where as much as possible needs to be spent are creativity and goal scoring. There is also no guarantee our top scorer (from midfield) will resign too, our attackers were woeful last year with under Brady goals more likely to come from the full back and centre back than a striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 16, 2021, 07:26:19 am
I'd find Morris a pretty underwhelming signing. He fills a shirt and does little wrong, but it's hard to say what role it is he fulfils in midfield. He'd make an adequate squad member as he could act as reasonable cover across a few midfield slots, but coming from Pompey I suspect he'd be looking for more money than we should be spending on a reserve.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 16, 2021, 07:31:45 am
I reckon I agree with your posts more often that any other poster. And this is bang on the money for me. I’d be devastated if we had two of them let alone three.

Watson won fans player of the year and was our top scorer, and McWilliams came 3rd in the POTS vote. But you’d be devastated if both were still playing for us next year? It’s so reductionist the old  ‘everyone’s bad start it all again’. Do you really think it’s a good idea to have a complete new starting eleven?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 16, 2021, 08:15:13 am
Watson won fans player of the year and was our top scorer, and McWilliams came 3rd in the POTS vote. But you’d be devastated if both were still playing for us next year? It’s so reductionist the old  ‘everyone’s bad start it all again’. Do you really think it’s a good idea to have a complete new starting eleven?

Completely agree, we have areas in the team that are more than good enough to get us promoted and others that aren’t even close!.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on May 16, 2021, 08:34:35 am
Ash Taylor’s been released at Aberdeen!!
Would be great to see him back.......... Jokes


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 16, 2021, 08:41:30 am
Ash Taylor’s been released at Aberdeen!!
Would be great to see him back.......... Jokes

Another maligned player who before he became an untouchable for some was Player of the year!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest216 on May 16, 2021, 10:37:30 am
Taylor would be very decent in League Two I reckon, bit of an donkey but could do with a dominant aerial presence. Obviously would have to be for a fraction of the wages he was on for his first stint here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 16, 2021, 11:22:36 am
I dunno, it was when we dropped into League two last when he became awful. He was better in League 1 for some reason.

Interesting looking at the team stats where we were horrible. Really poor at possession and passing completion, but so were Gillingham who did fine. There were some more surprising finds as well. Our tackling sucess was near the bottom of the table. We attempted the least amount of dribbles in the league. Our shots on target was terrible, but in particular in the 6 yard box we were bottom by a bit.

If this year is all about the data, I guess that is what we'd be looking at.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 16, 2021, 13:57:27 pm
So you basically want the midfield 3 that was consistently embarrassed in league 1. Progress.

Why on earth would we be clammering to resign anyone from this **** terrible season.
That's not what I said.
In my opinion Morris would do a job for us in league two in central midfield, with or without McWilliams alongside him.
It's the other 4/5 positions ahead of the back four that Brady needs to do a job on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 16, 2021, 14:22:17 pm
That's not what I said.
In my opinion Morris would do a job for us in league two in central midfield, with or without McWilliams alongside him.
It's the other 4/5 positions ahead of the back four that Brady needs to do a job on.

100%, and I'm sure that Brady will agree. Oh, and the keeper too!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 16, 2021, 15:27:10 pm
Taylor would be very decent in League Two I reckon, bit of an donkey but could do with a dominant aerial presence. Obviously would have to be for a fraction of the wages he was on for his first stint here.
I think I would prefer Lloyd Jones and Horsfall to Ash Taylor.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 16, 2021, 15:48:13 pm
I think I would prefer Lloyd Jones and Horsfall to Ash Taylor.
Ash Taylor, no thanks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 16, 2021, 15:49:35 pm
I wonder will you ever post without making any form of derogatory comment ??
πηγαίνεις στον εαυτό σου γαμώτο γαϊδουράκι.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 16, 2021, 15:50:46 pm
πηγαίνεις στον εαυτό σου γαμώτο γαϊδουράκι.

Google translate is a wonderful tool.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 16, 2021, 15:54:56 pm
Google translate is a wonderful tool.  ;D
Hope it made you chuckle 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on May 16, 2021, 16:00:30 pm
I dunno, it was when we dropped into League two last when he became awful. He was better in League 1 for some reason.

Interesting looking at the team stats where we were horrible. Really poor at possession and passing completion, but so were Gillingham who did fine. There were some more surprising finds as well. Our tackling sucess was near the bottom of the table. We attempted the least amount of dribbles in the league. Our shots on target was terrible, but in particular in the 6 yard box we were bottom by a bit.

If this year is all about the data, I guess that is what we'd be looking at.

Because when we dropped into League 2 he tried and failed to force his way out of the club to Peterborough


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on May 16, 2021, 16:10:57 pm
I'd find Morris a pretty underwhelming signing. He fills a shirt and does little wrong, but it's hard to say what role it is he fulfils in midfield. He'd make an adequate squad member as he could act as reasonable cover across a few midfield slots, but coming from Pompey I suspect he'd be looking for more money than we should be spending on a reserve.

Hes better than what we have contracted and would do a job in league 2.

I hope we sign him if I am honest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 16, 2021, 16:35:58 pm
Hope it made you chuckle

Eeyore... ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 17, 2021, 06:25:32 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/jon-brady-on-loan-players-and-towns-goalkeeping-situation-3238102


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 17, 2021, 08:17:43 am
I just think we need to be cautious with how we use our budget for next season. For me it’s clear the two areas where as much as possible needs to be spent are creativity and goal scoring. There is also no guarantee our top scorer (from midfield) will resign too, our attackers were woeful last year with under Brady goals more likely to come from the full back and centre back than a striker.


I would assume with 5/6 strikers on the books, we are relying on some of those leaving before anymore coming in.

I doubt there will be many in line wishing to sign them!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 17, 2021, 09:59:09 am
Arguably 4 or 5 spots, as we will need new wide players (Hoskins might not be guaranteed a start) along with a new forward. Mills might have competition at LB also.

In my opinion the centre back and centre midfield areas were by far our strongest areas of the pitch last season and do not require revolution particularly as the comparative quality of the division will be comfortably worse next year. We need considerable improvements in our goalkeeper and wide players. A midfield playmaker with a bit of pace who can play between the lines would also make a huge difference. The wide players need to have the ability to beat their defender 1v1 and have decent delivery. Once these are in place I can actually see our forwards scoring a lot more.

Not many would disagree with this; you have already called for opinions if Morris was resigned with mixed results. If JB resigned Mitchell would people go along with JB’s decision?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfc_kjd on May 17, 2021, 11:43:11 am
Signing Chuck on a pro deal is a must this summer, for me he should be starting next season along side a newly signed striker.
Might be crazy but I do think if Smith is asked to leave he will secure a club with ease injuries permitting.
Can’t make my mind up on Rose, but has scored plenty in league 2 before.
BAS might be okay for league 2 if he stays on his feet.
Wouldn’t be a massive risk signing A Jones.

If we somehow get L Jones, Watson and Chuck to sign I think we will be right up there however at this stage I think we would be lucky even if 1 of them signs.
Huge summer ahead.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 17, 2021, 11:46:06 am
Not many would disagree with this; you have already called for opinions if Morris was resigned with mixed results. If JB resigned Mitchell would people go along with JB’s decision?

Opinion might be split on Morris, I don't think it will be on Mitchell.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 17, 2021, 12:29:57 pm
Opinion might be split on Morris, I don't think it will be on Mitchell.
Mitchell will be working for a living and playing semi pro v soon.
As for BAS, IMO he is the worst striker I have seen at any club for a very long time, what compounds this is the fact he thought he was too good for L1 and the Cobblers. I predict he will like it even less in the agricultural L2 and spend most of the season injured. A far better strategy would be to a) loan him to anyone stupid enough to pay his wages or b) sell him  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 17, 2021, 12:45:27 pm
The determining factor in whether BAS , Rose and Smith will be at the club next season will be whether someone takes them off our hands at the same wage level or not .
Smith and Rose have a chance - BAS might as well paint the West Stand to earn his living .
Morris - not really . We need creative players with pace .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 17, 2021, 13:16:25 pm
Does anyone think we have a realistic chance of signing an aging goalie (33+) from higher divisions that might get released in the summer?

Seems to be quite a few from the Championship that might be available, but guessing wages would be too high for us.

Would happily have Nicholls back after getting released by MK, he is still reasonably rated by their supporters it seems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 17, 2021, 14:29:04 pm
Does anyone think we have a realistic chance of signing an aging goalie (33+) from higher divisions that might get released in the summer?

Seems to be quite a few from the Championship that might be available, but guessing wages would be too high for us.

Would happily have Nicholls back after getting released by MK, he is still reasonably rated by their supporters it seems.
Completely agree, I think L Jones needs to sign first and then the keeper as absolute priorities.
We are light all over the pitch but the spine of the team is where you spend you cash.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 17, 2021, 16:17:59 pm
Does anyone think we have a realistic chance of signing an aging goalie (33+) from higher divisions that might get released in the summer?

Seems to be quite a few from the Championship that might be available, but guessing wages would be too high for us.

Would happily have Nicholls back after getting released by MK, he is still reasonably rated by their supporters it seems.

I think if we can offer a 3 year deal to a strong keeper and sell the project of getting promoted and then establishing in L1 then it should be a possibility to do this. I think Ryan Allsop would be a great option for this - integral for getting Wycombe first settled in L1 then getting promoted to the Champ. According to Wycombe fans he is one of the best shot stoppers around under the Champ and was unlucky to lose his spot to Stockdale and to be released.

A cheaper option might be Callum Burton just released by Cambridge, only 24 but apparently played the second half of the season for them and a big part of getting them promoted, very unlucky to be released according to the U's fans - local so would be a good option even if just a back up?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on May 17, 2021, 17:11:37 pm
What about Lee Nichols, a good age only 28, pretty experienced with around 150 games for the donkeys and was good when on loan from Wigan. A good height for a keeper and decent shot stopper. Probably lives locally. Worth a punt


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 17, 2021, 17:58:45 pm
What about Lee Nichols, a good age only 28, pretty experienced with around 150 games for the donkeys and was good when on loan from Wigan. A good height for a keeper and decent shot stopper. Probably lives locally. Worth a punt

Already been suggested on page 2 of this thread! ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 17, 2021, 19:12:33 pm
Would be happy with either Lee Nicholls or Callum Burton (just released by Cambridge United, who's fans ain't happy about it) as our new number 1


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 17, 2021, 20:11:35 pm
Would be happy with either Lee Nicholls or Callum Burton (just released by Cambridge United, who's fans ain't happy about it) as our new number 1

If both have been released ie surplus to requirements by 1st and (an ex) 2nd League sides it says a lot they are probably not good enough for League 1. We should be aiming for a keeper who is without doubt capable at League 1 level and if possible also the Championship.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 17, 2021, 21:03:53 pm
If both have been released ie surplus to requirements by 1st and (an ex) 2nd League sides it says a lot they are probably not good enough for League 1. We should be aiming for a keeper who is without doubt capable at League 1 level and if possible also the Championship.

If you have never seen Burton play how are you sure he isn't L1 level? Cambridge fans saying he was their best keeper!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ItsaSetPieceDivision on May 17, 2021, 21:36:38 pm
If both have been released ie surplus to requirements by 1st and (an ex) 2nd League sides it says a lot they are probably not good enough for League 1. We should be aiming for a keeper who is without doubt capable at League 1 level and if possible also the Championship.

Players get released for all sorts of reasons. Do you know they've been released because the clubs deem them not good enough for League 1?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 17, 2021, 22:09:54 pm
We should be aiming for a keeper who is without doubt capable at League 1 level and if possible also the Championship.
I know the club are trying to build a set up for the future, I wonder when they are planning on reaching the Championship ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on May 17, 2021, 22:36:43 pm
I know the club are trying to build a set up for the future, I wonder when they are planning on reaching the Championship ?

Perhaps they've cleaned out the old broom cupboard and found Cardoza's 5 year plan! ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 18, 2021, 06:50:38 am
If both have been released ie surplus to requirements by 1st and (an ex) 2nd League sides it says a lot they are probably not good enough for League 1. We should be aiming for a keeper who is without doubt capable at League 1 level and if possible also the Championship.

That seems ridiculously simplistic, we would have never signed Ricky Holmes on that basis who Portsmouth & their fans thought wasn’t good enough for league 2. Players who are universally deemed good enough to play at a certain level are not going to join a lower division club than that as they are obviously going to get better offers.
With goalkeepers in might not be a case they are released because they are not good enough but because the club don’t want to be paying a first team wage for a guy who might sit on the bench all season or because the player might want first team football.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 18, 2021, 10:15:05 am
there will be a reason Nicholls has been released by MK - it might be down to fitness from looking at him !
I would say there is more chance of Cornell coming back than Nicholls .
There must be a lot of keepers that want a first team chance that are currently third choice at decent clubs. It’s a case of if we can afford their wages .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 18, 2021, 10:51:40 am
Erhun Oztumer released by Charlton. Still only 29 and would solve our need for a playmaker to play through the lines. The question is would he sign for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 18, 2021, 10:56:02 am
Erhun Oztumer released by Charlton. Still only 29 and would solve our need for a playmaker to play through the lines. The question is would he sign for us?

No chance I would think, but a great player.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on May 18, 2021, 11:00:29 am
No chance I would think, but a great player.

Agree, at his best a very good player.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 18, 2021, 11:03:15 am
Erhun Oztumer released by Charlton. Still only 29 and would solve our need for a playmaker to play through the lines. The question is would he sign for us?

Surprised that he is only 29 (30 at the end of this month), thought that he could do a decent job the couple of times I saw him against us for Walsall.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 18, 2021, 12:16:55 pm
there will be a reason Nicholls has been released by MK - it might be down to fitness from looking at him !
I would say there is more chance of Cornell coming back than Nicholls .
There must be a lot of keepers that want a first team chance that are currently third choice at decent clubs. It’s a case of if we can afford their wages .

Surely, we could afford Callum Burton from Cambridge?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 18, 2021, 13:23:48 pm
I think I read somewhere that Brady has links and relationships with numerous Premier League clubs youth and development set-ups, one of which would be Liverpool where Barry Hunter is Chief Scout - Hunter and Brady would have been close from their playing days at Rushden & Diamonds.  It will be interesting to see if he exploits this link.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on May 18, 2021, 13:33:55 pm
I think I read somewhere that Brady has links and relationships with numerous Premier League clubs youth and development set-ups, one of which would be Liverpool where Barry Hunter is Chief Scout - Hunter and Brady would have been close from their playing days at Rushden & Diamonds.  It will be interesting to see if he exploits this link.

Yes, there was talk of JB going to work there himself. Think he had an opportunity...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 18, 2021, 13:57:34 pm
Yes, there was talk of JB going to work there himself. Think he had an opportunity...

Hopefully he’ll be able to source some raw diamonds both permanently and on loan - I think the market place for more established players is going to be incredibly competitive.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on May 18, 2021, 14:48:39 pm
Hopefully he’ll be able to source some raw diamonds both permanently and on loan - I think the market place for more established players is going to be incredibly competitive.


I think a few younger, cheaper options will allow him to spend more on key players. He said as much for the goalkeeping position. Wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the young players released by KC are resigned.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on May 18, 2021, 15:02:51 pm
I think a few younger, cheaper options will allow him to spend more on key players. He said as much for the goalkeeping position. Wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the young players released by KC are resigned.

I had thought of this recently, would resigning Lashley as backup GK be a possibility. Was highly rated (according to some on here) and has spent the past season gaining experience - essentially on loan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on May 18, 2021, 15:19:59 pm
I had thought of this recently, would resigning Lashley as backup GK be a possibility. Was highly rated (according to some on here) and has spent the past season gaining experience - essentially on loan

I thought he was the best young keeper to come through the academy for a number of years so would be happy with this. JB might go for young keeper with more experience though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 18, 2021, 15:33:50 pm
I had thought of this recently, would resigning Lashley as backup GK be a possibility. Was highly rated (according to some on here) and has spent the past season gaining experience - essentially on loan

Who has he been playing for?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 18, 2021, 15:57:06 pm
https://twitter.com/efl_hub/status/1394679900318179336?s=20 (https://twitter.com/efl_hub/status/1394679900318179336?s=20)

Another random one from Twitter?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 18, 2021, 16:33:45 pm
I had thought of this recently, would resigning Lashley as backup GK be a possibility. Was highly rated (according to some on here) and has spent the past season gaining experience - essentially on loan

I watched him at the Arsenal FA Youth Cup game and thought that he looked like a very capable goalkeeper.  Granted it's only from that one game but I was surprised when he was released!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on May 19, 2021, 08:20:56 am
Who has he been playing for?

I thought it was Kettering but after some research it appears to be Cogenhoe (same level as Wellingborough & Rugby Town)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 19, 2021, 15:27:19 pm
Hakeeb Adelakun, former Sc***horpe midfielder has been released from Bristol City, aged 24 and always impressed me when playing for Sc***horpe. Might be in our wage range ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 19, 2021, 16:19:55 pm
Hakeeb Adelakun, former Sc***horpe midfielder has been released from Bristol City, aged 24 and always impressed me when playing for Sc***horpe. Might be in our wage range ?

Good shout but why hasn't he been playing at Bristol City?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 19, 2021, 16:29:59 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/retained-lists-all-the-players-to-have-been-released-by-league-one-clubs-so-far-3240515

Pick up your trolley before you wander the aisles...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 19, 2021, 16:38:23 pm
Will it be Aldi or M&S?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 19, 2021, 16:45:12 pm
Will it be Aldi or M&S?!

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 19, 2021, 17:56:44 pm
Be interesting to see what Chambers does. At 35 he may have a season or two left and the only reports I've read he was on £4k a week at Ipswich, although never know how accurate these figures are.
From the highlights I've seen he'd still do a decent job in league 2. Difficult to know if he'll still get someone to see him as a 'name' signing or if he'll be happy just to play for anyone in the twilight of his career. Didn't realise he is in the ten top Ipswich players for appearances. Over 700 career appearances in total, so he has done well with injuries.

I wonder what the longest spell between stints for our club is?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 19, 2021, 18:39:28 pm
Be interesting to see what Chambers does. At 35 he may have a season or two left and the only reports I've read he was on £4k a week at Ipswich, although never know how accurate these figures are.
From the highlights I've seen he'd still do a decent job in league 2. Difficult to know if he'll still get someone to see him as a 'name' signing or if he'll be happy just to play for anyone in the twilight of his career. Didn't realise he is in the ten top Ipswich players for appearances. Over 700 career appearances in total, so he has done well with injuries.

I wonder what the longest spell between stints for our club is?
The only thing about Luke is that he's been at Ipswich for 9 years so he's probably got kids in school, he could well be settled in Suffolk.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 19, 2021, 19:14:54 pm
Hakeeb Adelakun, former Sc***horpe midfielder has been released from Bristol City, aged 24 and always impressed me when playing for Sc***horpe. Might be in our wage range ?

Good player who I’d be more than happy to sign, was on loan at Hull earlier in the season, my guess is he will probably get better offers than us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 19, 2021, 20:05:19 pm
The only thing about Luke is that he's been at Ipswich for 9 years so he's probably got kids in school, he could well be settled in Suffolk.

Which gives him the option of Colchester and errrr....Felixstowe?! They do school from home these days  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on May 20, 2021, 08:02:43 am
The only thing about Luke is that he's been at Ipswich for 9 years so he's probably got kids in school, he could well be settled in Suffolk.
A14, A45.
Players travel a lot further than a couple of hours. I would have thought, Cobblers, Cambridge, Stevenage, MK, Southend, P*sh... would all be good for his family life.
Who wants him, who can afford him and what level does he want to play at will be key though. I would guess only P*sh could get close to his current salary but doesnt match their recruitment policy. Cant see him going non league, cant see Cambridge getting close to a salary so between us and MK. Assuming either want him.

I'd offer a 2 year contract and pay for his coaching badges, or a journalism course etc


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 20, 2021, 08:12:22 am
A14, A45.
Players travel a lot further than a couple of hours. I would have thought, Cobblers, Cambridge, Stevenage, MK, Southend, P*sh... would all be good for his family life.
Who wants him, who can afford him and what level does he want to play at will be key though. I would guess only P*sh could get close to his current salary but doesnt match their recruitment policy. Cant see him going non league, cant see Cambridge getting close to a salary so between us and MK. Assuming either want him.

I'd offer a 2 year contract and pay for his coaching badges, or a journalism course etc

It would firmly frame our place in the football world as a club who gets a player on their way up, or way back down. That's why it's so exciting when we see the likes of JJOT, Bayo and Ricky Holmes playing some of their best stuff.
Out of the ex players I'd be happy to see him back.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 08:29:59 am
I love the fact we discuss why players who have been released by other clubs won’t sign for us,  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 20, 2021, 08:52:17 am
Not being funny, I really liked Chambers when we had him and I've followed his career with interest. He's done really well and been a very good player.

He's 35 though. When you get into that territory you start to get an increasing amount of niggling injuries that take longer to heal, as we've seen in recent seasons with McCormack and Sheehan; great players who really add to the team when they play but if you look at them in a cost-per-game basis I suspect they don't offer great value for money.

As much as my heart says it would be lovely to see him back to finish his career where it started, I can't help but think our money would be better spent elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 20, 2021, 09:00:11 am
I take your point but he’s not been injury prone throughout his career and we’re desperate for a sprinkling of “old heads” and leaders. Thiago Silva hasn’t done bad for Chelsea and he’s older than Chambers?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 20, 2021, 09:49:53 am
I take your point but he’s not been injury prone throughout his career and we’re desperate for a sprinkling of “old heads” and leaders. Thiago Silva hasn’t done bad for Chelsea and he’s older than Chambers?

Exactly, 700+ games! We must have realistic expectations on the kind of players we can attract. He could still be way outside of our affordability so maybe a pointless target. He may even decide to retire, he must have a tidy pension, who knows?!
I'm sure he'd do a great job for us, a leader, potential captain and would definitely ping a measured ball rather than the usual hoof we are used to.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 20, 2021, 10:13:04 am
Exactly, 700+ games! We must have realistic expectations on the kind of players we can attract. He could still be way outside of our affordability so maybe a pointless target. He may even decide to retire, he must have a tidy pension, who knows?!
I'm sure he'd do a great job for us, a leader, potential captain and would definitely ping a measured ball rather than the usual hoof we are used to.
I'm sure he's built up a tidy pot over the years. If he still feels an affinity with the club he may comeback but I dont think it'll be for the wages we can offer. What's his desire for football like?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 20, 2021, 10:28:31 am
If Colchester are interested in him we would, surely, have to offer substantially more with them being 15 minutes from Ipswich and us 2 hours, unless he is thinking of moving house.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on May 20, 2021, 10:31:31 am
IF L Jones re-signs is there a need for Chambers and would he be willing to be back-up? As surely Brady would continue with Horsfall and Jones as his preferred CB's


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 10:34:25 am
Am I missing something, why do we want a 35 year old ex player, 36 in  the early part of next season, we’ve just had a couple of those all be-it not ex players, who managed a few games between them.
Sign Lloyd Jones and get a young lad in who maybe we can make some money for running costs out of.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 20, 2021, 10:39:55 am
Am I missing something, why do we want a 35 year old ex player, 36 in  the early part of next season, we’ve just had a couple of those all be-it not ex players, who managed a few games between them.
Sign Lloyd Jones and get a young lad in who maybe we can make some money for running costs out of.
Yes I'd like to see Lloyd Jones signed but if he decides to move I think Luke would be a very good signing for a year. It's a bit harsh comparing him to McCormack & Sheehan who were both injury prone before they came, Chambers doesn't have that label.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 20, 2021, 10:52:48 am
For the amount of money that Chambers would likely ask coming from a club like Ipswich, if we have that money it should be given to Lloyd Jones.

At this stage of their careers Jones is the better player and by the end of next season the difference will be even more evident as Chambers will be 36.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 20, 2021, 11:32:43 am
I really hope that we are not even considering signing a 35 year old, regardless of his injury history, as it has not proved particularly successful in recent seasons. That would also apply to Nugent who has been often touted on here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 20, 2021, 11:51:33 am
For the amount of money that Chambers would likely ask coming from a club like Ipswich, if we have that money it should be given to Lloyd Jones.

At this stage of their careers Jones is the better player and by the end of next season the difference will be even more evident as Chambers will be 36.

This. 100%.

The biggest mistake we make year in year out is building a team to get promoted (yes, we do get promoted or come close fairly often from league2), and then once up, having to adapt to league1 with a totally different team. Calderwood took us up with the likes of Taylor, Jess, Dyche etc.

Its alright having one or two, experience is very important. But we always end up having loads of 30plus players!

Spend the £ elsewhere on the team. Chambers wouldn't touch us for less than 2 grand a week, why should he? Unless of course he lives in or near Northampton. Great player for us and he's been a great player since, but lets not forget a bang average league1 club has released him so he cant be that bloody good any more can he?!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 20, 2021, 12:43:28 pm
The other point is that Lloyd Jones could be worth a decent sum of money to us halfway through a 2 year contract or so whilst Chambers will be worthless.

An easy choice for us if that's the choice we have to make.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 20, 2021, 12:51:39 pm
It’s interesting that according to Wikipedia L Jones has only made 95 career appearances at the age of 25 - he really needs to kick on now and we have given him the opportunity and the captaincy to boot.  I just hope he’s listening to the right people.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 13:05:43 pm
So that’s it then, we’ve made a decision, we are not going to sign Chambers, who was not going to sign anyway, we are going to sign Lloyd Jones, who also isn’t going to sign.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
With purpose like this you can see the need for a committee.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on May 20, 2021, 13:11:02 pm
So that’s it then, we’ve made a decision, we are not going to sign Chambers, who was not going to sign anyway, we are going to sign Lloyd Jones, who also isn’t going to sign.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
With purpose like this you can see the need for a committee.

 ;D

I would only like to pointlessly add to the pointless debate that Luke Chambers missus family have property here and still live in the County I do believe.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 20, 2021, 13:13:23 pm
But perhaps he wants to keep a safe distance from the mother-in-law.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 20, 2021, 14:02:36 pm
So that’s it then, we’ve made a decision, we are not going to sign Chambers, who was not going to sign anyway, we are going to sign Lloyd Jones, who also isn’t going to sign.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
With purpose like this you can see the need for a committee.

Hands up for a fan owned club, anyone?   ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 20, 2021, 14:10:42 pm
Next item on the agenda….Bayo   ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 20, 2021, 14:30:50 pm
But perhaps he wants to keep a safe distance from the mother-in-law.

Can we add this as a metric for our new data driven approach?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on May 20, 2021, 14:58:28 pm
I love the fact we discuss why players who have been released by other clubs won’t sign for us,  ;D

Every year its same old dross.

Like everyones playing football manager .

As always we won't sign anyone on here mentioned by some quite out of touch fans. Our best players in Jones and Watson will leave and everyone will be underwhelmed who we do sign.

Then everyone will start talking about Morley/Hill or the Wilder years


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 15:56:39 pm
Next item on the agenda….Bayo   ;D
Is he coming back?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on May 20, 2021, 16:06:49 pm
Christian Lee is coming out of retirement.
Got bags of potential, he could be our first million pound player!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 20, 2021, 16:13:29 pm
Is he coming back?

Yeah, another important KBI is to achieve a combined first team age of 350. He really helps the average.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 20, 2021, 16:27:28 pm
Malcom Christie is doing TV work these days so we can count him out. Looks like our only option is ex players


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 20, 2021, 16:32:51 pm
Malcom Christie is doing TV work these days so we can count him out. Looks like our only option is ex players


Are you sure?? I'm certain I saw him in the club shop the other day  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 16:40:45 pm
I saw Bayo in Pizza Hut, Frankie and Bennys, TGIs and Mc Donald’s?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 20, 2021, 16:43:15 pm
I saw Bayo in Pizza Hut, Frankie and Bennys, TGIs and Mc Donald’s?

Which night?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 16:46:26 pm
Which night?
Last Tuesday.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 20, 2021, 16:48:34 pm
Last Tuesday.

After he'd been in the Club Shop?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 16:53:06 pm
After he'd been in the Club Shop?

You saw him as well  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on May 20, 2021, 17:14:18 pm
Christian Lee is coming out of retirement.
Got bags of potential, he could be our first million pound player!!

.. wasn't that Ali Gibb, when Rangers were in for him ?  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 20, 2021, 17:26:27 pm
.. wasn't that Ali Gibb, when Rangers were in for him ?  8)
Ali Gibb = Sam Hoskins.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 20, 2021, 18:00:05 pm
Are you sure?? I'm certain I saw him in the club shop the other day  :o

I think you'll find Wendy got a restraining order to stop all that; the bloke was in there all the time making a nuisance of himself, always angling for a contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 20, 2021, 19:39:34 pm
Ali Gibb = Sam Hoskins.
My god, you're right.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on May 20, 2021, 20:30:33 pm
Quick, someone send Stevie G the Sammy highlight reel.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 20, 2021, 21:36:15 pm
Quick, someone send Stevie G the Sammy highlight reel.

So Owlie what’s kept you away for 7 months?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on May 21, 2021, 01:05:53 am
After he'd been in the Club Shop?


More likely the chip shop. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on May 21, 2021, 06:37:42 am
My god, you're right.
No he’s not. Ali Gibb was much worse and only scored two goals. His crossing tended to go out for throw ins on the other side. However, I’m pretty sure he left to play in a higher league with Stockport


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 21, 2021, 08:04:25 am
But perhaps he wants to keep a safe distance from the mother-in-law.
Too far away and she becomes an overnight guest, reckon he could be up for moving a bit closer, but not too close. Needs military style strategic planning.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on May 21, 2021, 08:46:09 am
So, are we in agreement? Chambers is a no but Bayo is a maybe. - Are we the committee?   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on May 21, 2021, 09:29:04 am
If we are looking at old players, ones who have a connection to the club, and a link to the management team... Larry is only recently retired! Could be an option from the bench. Especially with Atkins being DoF


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 21, 2021, 10:24:23 am
No he’s not. Ali Gibb was much worse and only scored two goals. His crossing tended to go out for throw ins on the other side. However, I’m pretty sure he left to play in a higher league with Stockport
Chop the head off Super Sam, replace it with Ali Gibbs and in my mind at least you get the same barrel chested slightly forward leaning slightly manic player.
Didnt Ali become a lawyer? I seem to remember he was studying whilst (invariably) sat on the bench for us.
I wonder what's gonna happen to super Sam once his career ends, not that I expect that to happen any time soon. He must have at least another 200 games for us left in him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 21, 2021, 10:35:16 am

Didnt Ali become a lawyer? I seem to remember he was studying whilst (invariably) sat on the bench for us.


I think that was Josh Low who was studying to be a lawyer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on May 21, 2021, 10:35:58 am
So Owlie what’s kept you away for 7 months?

Stalker Alert !!!!!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 21, 2021, 10:41:35 am
I think that was Josh Low who was studying to be a lawyer.
Turns out Ali is now senior physio at Bolton academy (according to wiki) so I got that one wrong.
Josh Low a lawyer eh? Who'd have thought.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 21, 2021, 11:19:46 am
Turns out Ali is now senior physio at Bolton academy (according to wiki) so I got that one wrong.
Josh Low a lawyer eh? Who'd have thought.

Down in Bristol. I'm sure he earns more now than when he was a pro-baller.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-low-a078ab79/?originalSubdomain=uk


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 21, 2021, 11:50:14 am
Down in Bristol. I'm sure he earns more now than when he was a pro-baller.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-low-a078ab79/?originalSubdomain=uk

Professional people often don't earn as much as you might think. Some do, many don't.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 21, 2021, 11:57:58 am
Professional people often don't earn as much as you might think. Some do, many don't.

Neither do footballers! He'll be OK and still only 42. It's good to see a footballer carving a decent career after the game. Most of them are consumed from a young age and must struggle to varying degrees once on the scrap heap.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 21, 2021, 12:04:11 pm
Neither do footballers! He'll be OK and still only 42. It's good to see a footballer carving a decent career after the game. Most of them are consumed from a young age and must struggle to varying degrees once on the scrap heap.
I didnt have Josh down as a future lawyer, I gotta admit.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 21, 2021, 12:53:59 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/carr-believes-cobblers-must-target-two-centre-forwards-this-summer-3245358


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 21, 2021, 13:11:55 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/martin_foyle/

Foyle returns as head of recruitment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 21, 2021, 13:23:27 pm
Is it time for a cheeky bid for Morton whilst manager-less WBA balance the books?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 21, 2021, 14:21:35 pm
Chop the head off Super Sam, replace it with Ali Gibbs and in my mind at least you get the same barrel chested slightly forward leaning slightly manic player.
Didnt Ali become a lawyer? I seem to remember he was studying whilst (invariably) sat on the bench for us.
I wonder what's gonna happen to super Sam once his career ends, not that I expect that to happen any time soon. He must have at least another 200 games for us left in him.

It’s back to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for the little scamp.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 21, 2021, 14:30:01 pm
It’s back to the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for the little scamp.

Currently he is our 'little scamp' that opposition teams don't like playing against.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 21, 2021, 14:35:07 pm
Currently he is our 'little scamp' that opposition teams don't like playing against.  ;)
Fcuk me he annoys the sh1t out of them as well!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 21, 2021, 15:39:27 pm
Motherwell Fans on Twitter think we will look at Louis Moult


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 21, 2021, 16:43:38 pm
Fcuk me he annoys the sh1t out of them as well!
;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 21, 2021, 17:38:29 pm
Stalker Alert !!!!!!!

???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on May 21, 2021, 18:05:44 pm
.. wasn't that Ali Gibb, when Rangers were in for him ?  8)
Nope.
Ali Gibb was linked with a £1m move to Rangers after the West Ham cup game.
Christian Lee was being touted to be be our first 1m sale when he started playing after his move from Doncaster.
Unfortunately that never happened🤨


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 21, 2021, 19:10:25 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/carr-believes-cobblers-must-target-two-centre-forwards-this-summer-3245358


That’s good to hear strikers are a priority, hopefully Rose, BAS & Smith will be made available for transfer


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on May 21, 2021, 21:01:48 pm
So Owlie what’s kept you away for 7 months?

Oh, you know, just generally minding my own business. Us owls have to work hard to keep warm in the winter months.

Not so much away, just not motivated by much that was happening to feel the need to share it on here. I like to tune in to these bi-annual rumour threads more often, mainly to check Malcolm Christie is definitely still signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 21, 2021, 21:51:14 pm
Oh, you know, just generally minding my own business. Us owls have to work hard to keep warm in the winter months.

Not so much away, just not motivated by much that was happening to feel the need to share it on here. I like to tune in to these bi-annual rumour threads more often, mainly to check Malcolm Christie is definitely still signing.

Good to hear all is well tho'. I suspected it might have been the poor form!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 22, 2021, 08:20:52 am
That’s good to hear strikers are a priority, hopefully Rose, BAS & Smith will be made available for transfer

I can see Rose and possibly Smith getting some interest but it depends what they’re on I suppose, as for BAS who in their right mind would take him after the season he has had?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 22, 2021, 08:25:00 am
I can see Rose and possibly Smith getting some interest but it depends what they’re on I suppose, as for BAS who in their right mind would take him after the season he has had?
Derngate for a Panto?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 22, 2021, 09:14:32 am
Derngate for a Panto?

It’s behind you!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Vince Planner on May 22, 2021, 09:14:45 am
Derngate for a Panto?
“Oh no they won’t”


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on May 22, 2021, 11:08:51 am
Derngate for a Panto?
Guess which one? I’ll give you a clue, he has fell over and left a glass slipper behind.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 22, 2021, 11:11:27 am
Guess which one? I’ll give you a clue, he has fell over and left a glass slipper behind.

They couldn't get Sir Norman Wisdom this year, he'll be an ideal replacement.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 22, 2021, 13:59:49 pm
They couldn't get Sir Norman Wisdom this year, he'll be an ideal replacement.  ;)
Normans a far better footballer than BAS though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 22, 2021, 14:25:12 pm
Normans a far better footballer than BAS though.

He was, he was also a decent boxer... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 22, 2021, 15:07:22 pm
Oh, you know, just generally minding my own business. Us owls have to work hard to keep warm in the winter months.

Not so much away, just not motivated by much that was happening to feel the need to share it on here. I like to tune in to these bi-annual rumour threads more often, mainly to check Malcolm Christie is definitely still signing.

I assumed it was the plight of Wednesday.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on May 22, 2021, 16:49:07 pm
Derngate for a Panto?

I heard BAS has got the lead role for this Christmas’ extravaganza at the NEC - Bambi on Ice.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 22, 2021, 19:28:56 pm
I assumed it was the plight of Wednesday.

Only just got that Forever - Good one!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 23, 2021, 14:11:00 pm
Am I right in thinking if Brentford win the play off final we will be due extra money on the Goode transfer?.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on May 23, 2021, 14:15:48 pm
Am I right in thinking if Brentford win the play off final we will be due extra money on the Goode transfer?.

Yes and we would get some kick back from Toney,  Newcastle have clauses and we would get some of that.

Any money Newcastle make on IT = cash for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 23, 2021, 15:10:35 pm
Yes and we would get some kick back from Toney,  Newcastle have clauses and we would get some of that.

Any money Newcastle make on IT = cash for us.

Hopefully a bit of a win-win - if Brentford go up we get £ for Goode and if they don’t Toney will likely leave and we get £. If Brentford go up and Toney also leaves then we’re laughing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 23, 2021, 15:25:02 pm
Hopefully a bit of a win-win - if Brentford go up we get £ for Goode and if they don’t Toney will likely leave and we get £. If Brentford go up and Toney also leaves then we’re laughing!
It'll reduce the debt owed to our custodians that's for sure.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on May 24, 2021, 06:58:56 am
Why would we get anything from Toney? He’s a couple of moves on from Newcastle.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 24, 2021, 08:14:20 am
Why would we get anything from Toney? He’s a couple of moves on from Newcastle.

I never understand why people think this about ex players 3 or 4 moves down the line. It makes no sense

The only thing you would continue to get is agreed installments.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 24, 2021, 08:36:39 am
anyone thinking we will get anything substantial ( or at all ) for a Toney move must be living in fantasy land.
At least we have Graham Carr on board who will certainly know the details of that deal .
Ivan has a lot to thank Emile Sinclair for .
If Emile wasn’t so utterly pathetic , Wilder would never have brought him on in those early games and the rest , my friends is history .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: claretparrot on May 24, 2021, 08:43:16 am
At a guess, if there have always been sell-on clauses in Toney's transfers since leaving us, then we will be due a % of a % of a %. So got to doubt it would be enough to change our budget at all, even if the fee was huge.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 24, 2021, 08:55:56 am
At a guess, if there have always been sell-on clauses in Toney's transfers since leaving us, then we will be due a % of a % of a %. So got to doubt it would be enough to change our budget at all, even if the fee was huge.

The agreement was that the East Stand gets completed when Toney scores the winner in the Champions League final.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 24, 2021, 09:14:08 am
The agreement was that the East Stand gets completed when Toney scores the winner in the Champions League final.
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on May 24, 2021, 11:37:15 am
I think we can assume that neither Jones nor Watson are keen to re-sign for us (two weeks since they had offers). Any news on Pollock ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on May 24, 2021, 14:26:35 pm
Jones on the beach in Portugal (or Milan)...there is a chance with him!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 24, 2021, 15:06:19 pm
Really hope we've put clear deadlines in for both Jones & Watson to sign...obviously want them both to but we can't let this drag on or accept the old  "gentlemens agreement" like what happened with Oliver  ::)

Same goes for Bolger, who hopefully will find another club, as he won't get any game time under Brady and this will free up a decent L1 wage.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 24, 2021, 16:22:20 pm
Really hope we've put clear deadlines in for both Jones & Watson to sign...obviously want them both to but we can't let this drag on or accept the old  "gentlemens agreement" like what happened with Oliver  ::)

Same goes for Bolger, who hopefully will find another club, as he won't get any game time under Brady and this will free up a decent L1 wage.
Yep, it’s like deja vu.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on May 24, 2021, 16:41:13 pm
Unfortunately that’s the risk we’re going to have to take with our only decent players - we either wait for Lloyd to have had his 2 holidays and hope he decides to stay or we draw the line and move on to possibly inferior alternatives.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 24, 2021, 16:52:01 pm
I never understand why people think this about ex players 3 or 4 moves down the line. It makes no sense

The only thing you would continue to get is agreed installments.

Agreed....when we sold him to Newcastle for the paltry fee of 250k or whatever it was we could have had an agreement where we got a cut of his sell on value. He moved to Peterborough for a reported £650k so we could have got a bit then. (50% of any profit might have netted us another £200k for example)
But really, if anyone things we'd get a cut of Peterborough's profits when they sold him to Brentford, then you need to have a word with yourselves!! Peterborough apparently inserted a load of sell on clauses which could see their original £5m rise to £10m...... and i'm sure that if Toney does make the Premier League, or he does an "Olly Watkins" and moves elsewhere for megabucks then Posh will get a few more millions in the bank.....as for us, we sold him cheap because the Chairman at the time needed a bit of cash. We had our chance and blew it.....as usual!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on May 24, 2021, 17:20:04 pm
Agreed....when we sold him to Newcastle for the paltry fee of 250k or whatever it was we could have had an agreement where we got a cut of his sell on value. He moved to Peterborough for a reported £650k so we could have got a bit then. (50% of any profit might have netted us another £200k for example)
But really, if anyone things we'd get a cut of Peterborough's profits when they sold him to Brentford, then you need to have a word with yourselves!! Peterborough apparently inserted a load of sell on clauses which could see their original £5m rise to £10m...... and i'm sure that if Toney does make the Premier League, or he does an "Olly Watkins" and moves elsewhere for megabucks then Posh will get a few more millions in the bank.....as for us, we sold him cheap because the Chairman at the time needed a bit of cash. We had our chance and blew it.....as usual!

Incorrect... Newcastle have sell on clauses with Posh,  we have sell on clauses with Newcastle

There is a knock on everytime he moves for more than we, Newcastle or Peterborough sold him for.

If Peterborough make a profit so do Newcastle and therfore we get a slice.

Didn't say it was a big slice,  but its still cash.

You would be surprised at some of the kick backs we have had over the years,  for players you probably dont even remember.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on May 24, 2021, 18:04:50 pm
Suprise me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 24, 2021, 19:08:02 pm
How long ago did a transfer from one club to another stop being a simple single transaction and turn into a multifaceted deal involving adds on and clauses in favour of former clubs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 24, 2021, 20:26:05 pm
Agreed....when we sold him to Newcastle for the paltry fee of 250k or whatever it was we could have had an agreement where we got a cut of his sell on value. He moved to Peterborough for a reported £650k so we could have got a bit then. (50% of any profit might have netted us another £200k for example)
But really, if anyone things we'd get a cut of Peterborough's profits when they sold him to Brentford, then you need to have a word with yourselves!! Peterborough apparently inserted a load of sell on clauses which could see their original £5m rise to £10m...... and i'm sure that if Toney does make the Premier League, or he does an "Olly Watkins" and moves elsewhere for megabucks then Posh will get a few more millions in the bank.....as for us, we sold him cheap because the Chairman at the time needed a bit of cash. We had our chance and blew it.....as usual!

£250k ???
i would seriously question that figure or anything like it .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Fizzy on May 24, 2021, 20:36:08 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56868097
Maybe shed some light for those that didnt see it


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on May 25, 2021, 08:14:37 am
so Carr stitched us up?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 25, 2021, 08:28:21 am
so Carr stitched us up?
Why Aye man.
He was working for Newcastle at the time so I guess he did his job.
All together now...... he’s got no hair but we don’t care.......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 25, 2021, 09:33:26 am
£200k for a young unproven player at our level isn’t bad business but shows our place in the world. He’s certainly not the player that left us and could have gone either way. P*sh have nailed it when it comes to cashing in on talent.
Wonder what the £250k for Richard Hill equates to today? There’s an example of how things can quickly turn sour!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on May 25, 2021, 10:47:44 am
£200k for a young unproven player at our level isn’t bad business but shows our place in the world. He’s certainly not the player that left us and could have gone either way. P*sh have nailed it when it comes to cashing in on talent.
Wonder what the £250k for Richard Hill equates to today? There’s an example of how things can quickly turn sour!

£258K in 1987 would equate to around £750K in today's money, less than we got for Goode.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 25, 2021, 10:54:07 am
£258K in 1987 would equate to around £750K in today's money, less than we got for Goode.
Emmmm compound inflation is about 3.3% linear so it’s nearer to £800k, unfortunately that doesn’t really tell the full story, it’s not just the inflation on the capital it’s the overall market place, their is way more money in football now, mainly coming from advertisers and of course broadcasting, streaming etc so the whole value of footballers has been inflated, so MR Hill would have probably gone for well over a million.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 25, 2021, 10:54:49 am
£258K in 1987 would equate to around £750K in today's money, less than we got for Goode.

It's all relative I guess as there weren't many lower league players going for (the equivalent) of £750k back in the 80's. They are disproportionally higher these days so difficult to compare. In real terms it's probably a bigger story than the £1m or so for Goode, which is relative peanuts.

Edit....or what MW said  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 25, 2021, 11:43:59 am
It's all relative I guess as there weren't many lower league players going for (the equivalent) of £750k back in the 80's. They are disproportionally higher these days so difficult to compare. In real terms it's probably a bigger story than the £1m or so for Goode, which is relative peanuts.

Edit....or what MW said  :P
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 25, 2021, 13:29:59 pm
It's all relative I guess as there weren't many lower league players going for (the equivalent) of £750k back in the 80's. They are disproportionally higher these days so difficult to compare. In real terms it's probably a bigger story than the £1m or so for Goode, which is relative peanuts.

Edit....or what MW said  :P

It seems crazy to think the world record transfer in 1982 was £3M then in 1984 it was £5M both for Maradona.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on May 25, 2021, 13:34:36 pm
21 pages in....

Almost as painful as our season


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on May 25, 2021, 13:49:52 pm
It' taking a long time to appoint JB's experienced assistant, or have I missed something.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 25, 2021, 14:18:11 pm
It' taking a long time to appoint JB's experienced assistant, or have I missed something.

Someone somewhere mentioned Calderwood as he still lives local, but as he's still in the play offs with Blackpool atm, things will have to wait.

Someone else mentioned Parrish (currently at Wolves)

Someone itk must know something?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on May 25, 2021, 17:38:08 pm
£200k for a young unproven player at our level isn’t bad business 

My Dad and I went for a hospitality tour during our promotion year.

Wilder was asked a question about the Toney transfer and was openly livid about the fee we received. He clearly had a sense that he had the potential to make it big.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on May 25, 2021, 18:42:28 pm
My Dad and I went for a hospitality tour during our promotion year.

Wilder was asked a question about the Toney transfer and was openly livid about the fee we received. He clearly had a sense that he had the potential to make it big.

The problem is that at our level and track record we are never going to make the mega bucks. We need to get into the same dealing league as P*sh to be seeing the £5m+ sales. They also go onto become players they never would if they hung around. If he’d stayed and had a good season we may have seen £1m+
It’s just nice to look on and see a local lad being successful, especially an ex-Cobbler. If it wasn’t so far north maybe Wilder could have had him back.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 25, 2021, 22:49:35 pm
So an actual rumour at last...Rob Hall released from Oxford United


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 26, 2021, 07:23:36 am
So an actual rumour at last...Rob Hall released from Oxford United

Good player, would certainly be a thumbs up from me.

My only concern would be how his knee is holding up, didn't he have a really bad ACL injury and keeps re-injuring it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on May 26, 2021, 07:29:59 am

My only concern would be how his knee is holding up, didn't he have a really bad ACL injury and keeps re-injuring it?

In that case, he's bound to end up here then!  :(
Nuttall anyone?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 26, 2021, 09:03:51 am
Yeah he fits the cobblers criteria, been injured, doubtlessly talented, loaned to FGR then released.
He would need to prove his to prove his fitness first with a very robust medical, we need to move away from signing injured players FFS!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on May 26, 2021, 16:26:50 pm
This afternoon’s headlines:
1) Lee Nichols signs for Huddersfield - not that he was ever going to give us a second look!?
2) KC signs a 2 year contract at Oldham- proving the very relevant adage that Dominic Cummings has been chatting about all day ... “the s***ter you are the more you progress!” Aka “The Peter Principle!”


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on May 26, 2021, 16:58:06 pm
3) Ex Cobbler, Mark Hughes, signed up by Joey B. - 34 year old but might do a job fir them?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on May 26, 2021, 21:12:48 pm
3) Ex Cobbler, Mark Hughes, signed up by Joey B. - 34 year old but might do a job fir them?

Forgive my ignorance but how are clubs signing players when the transfer window is not open. They may have been released by there clubs but there contracts run until 1st of June don't they, or have I missed something.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 26, 2021, 22:55:52 pm
Forgive my ignorance but how are clubs signing players when the transfer window is not open. They may have been released by there clubs but there contracts run until 1st of June don't they, or have I missed something.

They have pre-agreed the terms for their contracts at their new clubs in advance of their current deal ending. Technically any player over 24 in England can agree to move elsewhere domestically free of inter-club compensation once they enter the final month of their contract, whether their club has placed them on the release list or offered them a new deal. They can actually agree terms with another club outside of England after entering the final 6 months of their deal - although that's not so much of a problem when you have a squad such as ours!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 27, 2021, 05:21:28 am
I think we can assume that neither Jones nor Watson are keen to re-sign for us (two weeks since they had offers). Any news on Pollock ?
https://crewe.nub.news/n/crewe-alex-locally-born-midfielder-on-the-radar?fbclid=IwAR3QDaebv6joiWLm6iw_00IV5twsrlqtXoKvGTYN_qHXeuF83dl509CIJII


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 27, 2021, 06:53:05 am
https://crewe.nub.news/n/crewe-alex-locally-born-midfielder-on-the-radar?fbclid=IwAR3QDaebv6joiWLm6iw_00IV5twsrlqtXoKvGTYN_qHXeuF83dl509CIJII
Could be paper talk but as I said weeks ago I think they will both leave.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 27, 2021, 07:19:09 am
TBH I was surprised when Watson was still with us for this season!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 27, 2021, 07:37:47 am
Really? He isn't that good! Like, good enough for someone to take a gamble on him with a free maybe, but he's not a standout League 1 player.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Athena on May 27, 2021, 08:03:13 am
I would agree with Welly that perhaps Watson is 'not that good', but having said that yet again it would seem our 'player of the season' has up and left us immediately after picking up the accolade.  On another matter, can anyone inform me what with KC agreeing a full time contract with Oldham Athletic that it means we do not have to pay the rest of his outstanding contract with us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on May 27, 2021, 08:25:49 am
Watson has one significant attribute...arriving on the edge of the box in a timely fashion and putting a shot away from a loose ball/lay off. He's very good at that.

I think aside from that, he's a fine league2 player, but very average in league1. BUT goal scoring is a huge attribute to have, so that kind of masks everything else where he's probably not great.

This isn't a slur. If we'd had 11 average league1 players we'd have finished midtable in league1! He's therefore just the right sort of player we need at this moment in time. Get us out of league2 (again), then stabilise us in league1!

I shouldn't of thought a club like Crewe will have much weight in terms of them being in league1 versus a league2 team. It will come down to £. He's 27, unlikely he will ever play above the lower two divisions. They bobble about in the lower two divisions just like we do. If its exactly the same contract being offered, hypothetically, he'd probably go with the club closest to home. Different for a player who is 22/23/24 because their aspirations will be to play as high up the pyramid as possible, regardless (within reason).

Id say we've got a much more realistic chance of keeping Watson than Jones. I too though would be surprised if either signs for us. I don't have much faith at the minute that we are going to be pushing the boat out financially to put in a strong challenge next season, the next few weeks will either blow that lack of faith out the water or confirm it. Fingers crossed I'm wrong, obviously!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 27, 2021, 09:29:26 am
Does he still live up North?

He has been with us, MK and Barnet in the last 5/6 years so thought he may be settled down here by now.

Think Watson/McWilliams would be a fine midfield pairing for us in L2.

Hopefully have news on him and LJ soon though, otherwise it's back to the norm for us in waiting for our best players to re-sign, they don't and then we rush into picking up whoever might be available for the sake of it.

See the Rob Hall rumour is picking up some traction, really hope we do a thorough medical like MW suggests if that is the case.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on May 27, 2021, 10:53:24 am
See the Rob Hall rumour is picking up some traction, really hope we do a thorough medical like MW suggests if that is the case.

Managed 18.5 games per year since 2013. Can't see him being any more use than Marshall would have been. I don't know why you would ever risk picking up a similar player when its seemingly a gamble if they will work out. The risk/reward does not add up.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on May 27, 2021, 10:54:15 am
Does he still live up North?

He has been with us, MK and Barnet in the last 5/6 years so thought he may be settled down here by now.


He lives in Market Harborough


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 27, 2021, 11:11:45 am
Hall isn’t that good a player to merit the risk for me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 27, 2021, 11:18:57 am
He lives in Market Harborough
Someone’s got to.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 27, 2021, 12:39:44 pm
Someone’s got to.
Harboroughs all right. Can anyone recall the name of the pub, on the corner, that had sawdust on the floor?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 27, 2021, 12:45:21 pm
Managed 18.5 games per year since 2013. Can't see him being any more use than Marshall would have been. I don't know why you would ever risk picking up a similar player when its seemingly a **** if they will work out. The risk/reward does not add up.

Finger on button comment so easy to agree!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on May 27, 2021, 14:51:24 pm
Our lemon of a centre half has decided he doesn’t want to be here next year


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 27, 2021, 15:00:19 pm
Great news Bolger is leaving


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 27, 2021, 15:01:52 pm
Our lemon of a centre half has decided he doesn’t want to be here next year
That’s great news, I hope someone told him the feelings mutual.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 27, 2021, 15:05:30 pm
Our lemon of a centre half has decided he doesn’t want to be here next year

YES!!!

Hopefully, KC will sign him again...HOOF...worst NTFC captain ever!

Will free up at least two decent L2 wages I'd guess


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 27, 2021, 15:17:46 pm
i bet the instant the second hand ticked passed the two week time frame on Bolger , the club sent the email to say his time was up - thanks very much .
Absolutely useless and the fact Lincoln paid most of his wages still is testament to the fact they think the same thing .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 27, 2021, 15:21:17 pm
i bet the instant the second hand ticked passed the two week time frame on Bolger , the club sent the email to say his time was up - thanks very much .
Absolutely useless and the fact Lincoln paid most of his wages still is testament to the fact they think the same thing .
I wonder if Wolves would ..........nah.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 27, 2021, 16:27:57 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/incomings-expected-soon-after-brady-meets-with-his-transfer-targets-3253035


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 27, 2021, 16:29:20 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/pollock-set-to-sign-new-deal-as-talks-continue-with-watson-and-jones-3252867


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 27, 2021, 20:28:05 pm
I wonder if Wolves would ..........nah.
sadly we took him lock stock and barrel .
I would imagine we would pay his taxi fare if anytime was interested in a loan and then his weetabix every morning in a B&B


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on May 28, 2021, 10:11:49 am
Duo in advanced talks with Crewe
https://twitter.com/zoneefl2/status/1398199101393616898?s=21


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 28, 2021, 10:26:28 am
Duo in advanced talks with Crewe
https://twitter.com/zoneefl2/status/1398199101393616898?s=21

If that's the case we should withdraw the contract offers and get on with looking at others.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 28, 2021, 10:54:49 am
If that's the case we should withdraw the contract offers and get on with looking at others.

Doesnt mean they will leave. They could be in advanced talks, but if they are paying less than we can offer they may well stay


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 28, 2021, 11:10:16 am
Doesnt mean they will leave. They could be in advanced talks, but if they are paying less than we can offer they may well stay

True, but also means they could keep us waiting and drag things out whilst they listen to every other offer and then sign for someone else anyway.

Hope we have set a deadline for them to have made a decision by.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on May 28, 2021, 11:14:20 am
Harboroughs all right. Can anyone recall the name of the pub, on the corner, that had sawdust on the floor?

Was it The Talbot?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 28, 2021, 12:57:08 pm
If that's the case we should withdraw the contract offers and get on with looking at others.

Nothing on their Forum to support the Twitter tweet! Not surprising as the Twitter report lacks specific details.  Just hope we have offered Jones and Watson competitive contracts which are beyond the likes of Crewe.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 28, 2021, 13:24:51 pm
Nothing on their Forum to support the Twitter tweet! Not surprising as the Twitter report lacks specific details.  Just hope we have offered Jones and Watson competitive contracts which are beyond the likes of Crewe.

With Bolger gone, we should be able to offer Jones a decent enough deal to commit.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 28, 2021, 14:54:00 pm
Was it The Talbot?
Yes thank you.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 28, 2021, 14:54:41 pm
Pollock has signed a new contract. That's great news if his injury problems are behind him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 28, 2021, 15:24:12 pm
Good news.

Hopefully Scotty is fit and will continue to get game time and develop.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on May 28, 2021, 15:56:49 pm
Good news.

Hopefully Scotty is fit and will continue to get game time and develop.

He could be the Watson replacement if watson leaves


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on May 28, 2021, 16:02:02 pm
He could be the Watson replacement if watson leaves

I would not be adverse to that if it means we can spend the money elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 28, 2021, 17:52:33 pm
He could be the Watson replacement if watson leaves
Different type of player ixwouod have thought? More likely to fill the role Morris played.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on May 28, 2021, 18:00:46 pm
The article in the Chron says Jones and Watson will be decided by the end of next week.
This to me is JBs first test! If they are still sniffing around for a better deal elsewhere by then, then withdraw the deal and look elsewhere.
If jones and Watson keep us fanning around until the end of June it will be last year all over again.
I trust you to do the right thing JB. No sign by Friday 4th, no sign at all!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 28, 2021, 18:08:26 pm
Was it The Talbot?

The Swan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 28, 2021, 18:21:29 pm
The article in the Chron says Jones and Watson will be decided by the end of next week.
This to me is JBs first test! If they are still sniffing around for a better deal elsewhere by then, then withdraw the deal and look elsewhere.
If jones and Watson keep us fanning around until the end of June it will be last year all over again.
I trust you to do the right thing JB. No sign by Friday 4th, no sign at all!

Happy in this instance to personally agree. >:D

ps of the two prefer Jones


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 28, 2021, 18:22:47 pm
Pollock has signed a new contract. That's great news if his injury problems are behind him.

Good news indeed....could be a valuable asset going forwards, both immediately and potentially in the future. Have always thought he looked mature for his age on the pitch..... a bit like McWilliams just with a bit more of the wow factor.....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 28, 2021, 19:23:48 pm
Different type of player ixwouod have thought? More likely to fill the role Morris played.

Personally I disagree. From what we saw of him before under Curle he was more similar to Watson in the way he ended up in the box frequently and has a good strike of the ball on him. Perhaps Brady will see him better off trying to keep things ticking over from deeper midfield like Morris though!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 28, 2021, 20:28:36 pm
Personally I disagree. From what we saw of him before under Curle he was more similar to Watson in the way he ended up in the box frequently and has a good strike of the ball on him. Perhaps Brady will see him better off trying to keep things ticking over from deeper midfield like Morris though!
Fair enough, all about opinions!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 28, 2021, 20:34:45 pm
The Swan
The Swan is in Braybooke. Not Harborough. And Shoemender has just kindly refreshed my memory bank, and he is correct, it was the Talbot.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on May 28, 2021, 21:06:51 pm
The Swan is in Braybooke. Not Harborough. And Shoemender has just kindly refreshed my memory bank, and he is correct, it was the Talbot.

I remember about 20 or more years ago, it was part of some sort of social “experiment”, in which the police tolerated, or turned a blind eye to, the smoking of illicit substances. Unfortunately it didn’t last long.
I think it closed a few years ago.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 28, 2021, 21:22:06 pm
I remember about 20 or more years ago, it was part of some sort of social “experiment”, in which the police tolerated, or turned a blind eye to, the smoking of illicit substances. Unfortunately it didn’t last long.
I think it closed a few years ago.
Thats the place. Oh yeah. I just looked on streetview, and it now is a charity shop.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 28, 2021, 21:49:00 pm
The Swan is in Braybooke. Not Harborough. And Shoemender has just kindly refreshed my memory bank, and he is correct, it was the Talbot.


The Three Swans in MH.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 29, 2021, 04:39:24 am

The Three Swans in MH.
Thats not what you said, is it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 29, 2021, 11:29:23 am
Thats not what you said, is it?

👍🏻 Not quite!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on May 29, 2021, 14:15:41 pm
Toney puts a little bit closed to an extra half million payout for Goode. Matt Grimes captaining the opposition.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 29, 2021, 14:34:22 pm
Toney puts a little bit closed to an extra half million payout for Goode. Matt Grimes captaining the opposition.

Come on you bees  :afro


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 29, 2021, 15:29:45 pm
Toney puts a little bit closed to an extra half million payout for Goode. Matt Grimes captaining the opposition.

James Heneghan has tweeted that "it's not a lot" but he doesn't know the exact amount. Certainly not half a million  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 29, 2021, 16:10:23 pm
Ivan Toney strikes me as a bit of a c@ck?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on May 29, 2021, 16:23:07 pm
Ivan Toney strikes me as a bit of a c@ck?

Absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of confidence, swagger and self-belief in a striker. He had it from day one when he broke into the team with us at 18 and without his goals we might have gone out of the league.

On the flip side, this season we've seen what happens when your strikers lack confidence and self-belief - it ain't pretty.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 29, 2021, 16:38:41 pm
I thought he came over quite well, he was just over excited (with some justification).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on May 29, 2021, 18:15:35 pm
Absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of confidence, swagger and self-belief in a striker. He had it from day one when he broke into the team with us at 18 and without his goals we might have gone out of the league.

On the flip side, this season we've seen what happens when your strikers lack confidence and self-belief - it ain't pretty.

Strikers  need that selfishness and confidence. Good luck to him in everything he does. He was only 16 when he debuted for us. Seems like he’s been around for ages yet only 22.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 29, 2021, 18:31:37 pm
Strikers  need that selfishness and confidence. Good luck to him in everything he does. He was only 16 when he debuted for us. Seems like he’s been around for ages yet only 22.

Or, even 25.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on May 29, 2021, 18:39:06 pm
Thought he came across fine, he’s had an amazing season and deserves all the success.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 29, 2021, 19:40:29 pm
Probably not the best place to post this, but the champions league  final, is on Youtube free of charge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnO3QQY5Jwo


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 29, 2021, 19:55:35 pm
Are we owed anything for Charlie Goode getting to the Premier League?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 29, 2021, 20:04:55 pm
Are we owed anything for Charlie Goode getting to the Premier League?
Is Charlie Goode anywhere near premier league standard? No way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on May 29, 2021, 20:07:46 pm
Are we owed anything for Charlie Goode getting to the Premier League?

You'd hope we'd put in some decent clauses after being caught out before...but this piece looks more like sell on incentives, rather than a promotion one... ::)

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-goode-transfer-was-very-good-deal-cobblers-2948684 (https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-goode-transfer-was-very-good-deal-cobblers-2948684)

I'm pretty sure Posh get another cool 1 million from the Toney deal now too (but those fvckers know how to negotiate a deal!)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on May 29, 2021, 21:01:03 pm
Is Charlie Goode anywhere near premier league standard? No way.

I didn't think that he was Championship standard... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 29, 2021, 22:35:08 pm
I didn't think that he was Championship standard... ;)
Nor did Brentford 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 30, 2021, 07:54:20 am
Absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of confidence, swagger and self-belief in a striker. He had it from day one when he broke into the team with us at 18 and without his goals we might have gone out of the league.

On the flip side, this season we've seen what happens when your strikers lack confidence and self-belief - it ain't pretty.

Absolutely that.

He has proven the right to have the confidence and swagger, fair play to him.. It’s when players that try and have swagger without any justification that’s laughable. Take BAS for example, thinks he is to good to be here but hasn’t proven why!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 30, 2021, 11:51:49 am
If we are due any money from Brentford's promotion we can consider ourselves lucky as he has hardly made a contribution to their success.
Harry Kane will probably move abroad now to avoid the possibility of being marked by Charlie.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 30, 2021, 12:06:46 pm
If we are due any money from Brentford's promotion we can consider ourselves lucky as he has hardly made a contribution to their success.
Harry Kane will probably move abroad now to avoid the possibility of being marked by Charlie.
Yes, he must be petrified at the thought of being marked by Goode.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 30, 2021, 12:22:46 pm
Yes, he must be petrified at the thought of being marked by Goode.

Why all this downer on Goode did ok for us all the way to the bank? Has he had a decent chance at Championship level? Let alone at Premier level!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 30, 2021, 13:09:23 pm
Unfortunately when he first appeared for Brentford he attracted comments like "not good enough" and "definately a lower division player". I think he would certainly have been good enough for us in Division 1 and possibly he could make it at Championship level but I doubt he will have a Premiership career.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 30, 2021, 13:21:27 pm
Unfortunately when he first appeared for Brentford he attracted comments like "not good enough" and "definately a lower division player". I think he would certainly have been good enough for us in Division 1 and possibly he could make it at Championship level but I doubt he will have a Premiership career.
You have to laugh Brentford giving it the big one, can remember going to Griffin Park a few time when they were sh1t.
Easiest relegation bet if you fancy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on May 30, 2021, 13:31:01 pm
I also remember going there when we were s*** 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on May 30, 2021, 14:13:59 pm
Why all this downer on Goode did ok for us all the way to the bank? Has he had a decent chance at Championship level? Let alone at Premier level!
I havent got a downer on Charlie.
Quite the opposite, I thought we did good business selling him for a million, although I doubt much of that will have gone back into the playing budget.
I said at the time he wasnt good enough for the Championship if you care to look, and nothing since has changed my mind.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 14:14:37 pm
Clearly no transfer rumours then  ??? Going by the subjects being discussed on this thread  ::)

Where's ntfclad when you need him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 16:04:10 pm
Ed Upson - midfielder from Bristol Rovers.

Apparently interested along with Bradford & Walsall.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 30, 2021, 16:04:57 pm
Clearly no transfer rumours then  ??? Going by the subjects being discussed on this thread  ::)

Where's ntfclad when you need him.

Give Bayo Bayo a shout too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 16:11:10 pm
I'll keep them coming  :P

Apparently in talks to sign Coventry City defender Jordan Thompson.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 16:27:00 pm
Anyone fancy another  :o

Charlton midfielder Darren Pratley along with Portsmouth & Gillingham.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 16:43:26 pm
Mark Marshall interesting Port Vale, Morecambe and Bolton.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on May 30, 2021, 16:52:05 pm
Max Ehmer - defender from Bristol Rovers.

Us and Ipswich  ;D Ipswich have no chance then  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on May 30, 2021, 18:52:29 pm
This is not Windy's windmill.

Its the rumour mill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzwqBgWKalI

Play it and watch our next signing appear from the door.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on May 30, 2021, 19:00:48 pm
This is not Windy's windmill.

Its the rumour mill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzwqBgWKalI

Play it and watch our next signing appear from the door.

I'm definitely choosing to interpret this as cryptic clue rather than a joke that Mickel Miller is returning from the Millers  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on May 30, 2021, 19:03:01 pm
What has this Jordan Thompson been doing?, according to wiki since 2017 he has made only 30 appearances and only 6 for Coventry the rest for non league clubs.
Darren Pratley is now 36 and even if we are interested he will probably join 1 of the other clubs mentioned.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on May 30, 2021, 19:05:36 pm
Yes, he must be petrified at the thought of being marked by Goode.

Excusing the ill placed sarcasm but Goode at his best might indeed give Kane a game to remember.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on May 30, 2021, 20:10:08 pm
Blackpool getting promoted may well help is keep a player that we all want to stay .
But it’s still a long shot


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on May 31, 2021, 06:05:58 am
Blackpool getting promoted may well help is keep a player that we all want to stay .
But it’s still a long shot

Nuttall?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 31, 2021, 08:11:31 am
You’ve got to love Cobblers fans, talking about rumours of players and why they won’t sign because we are sh1t.
We should have signed LLoyd Jones on a longer contract in Jan, also letting M Marshall go is another mistake.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 31, 2021, 08:11:46 am
This is not Windy's windmill.

Its the rumour mill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzwqBgWKalI

Play it and watch our next signing appear from the door.
My favourite, Windy gets p1ssed on cider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsj29y7URNk


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 31, 2021, 08:18:05 am
Nothing like getting p1ssed while operating rotating heavy machinery, a good lesson for a kids back in the 70’s


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on May 31, 2021, 10:23:50 am
Windy Miller despite being pissed on the job was a true visionary of his time.

He refused the chance to "move with the times" as he was often accused by Brian Cant. However tempting he didn't want to take the fat Euro grant on offer to expand his mill and take on cheap Polish workers on zero hours contracts. He didn't believe this to be the future, just an unsustainable bubble of boom and bust, neither did he see the long term benefits for anyone of hiring cheap temporary foreign workers with no heart or desire.

Instead he concentrated on quality and especially sustainability, he could see how important this would become with mounting pressure on the environment from all the rapidly expanding businesses. Now and with the benefit of Brexit he sells his local homemade organic flour to artisan bakers throughout Islington, he also makes a killing from his equally organic "Windy" cider now selling for £15 a bottle in trendy bars around London and Manchester.

The big factory down the road who stole a lot of Windys market back then is now closing as they cant find enough cheap labour for their mass produced bleached flour shite, the local British people out of work don't want to work in a mill they want to be instagram influencers.

Cheers Windy, keep testing that Cider for quality and have one from me. A true visionary indeed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on May 31, 2021, 10:45:24 am
Windy Miller despite being pissed on the job was a true visionary of his time.

He refused the chance to "move with the times" as he was often accused by Brian Cant. However tempting he didn't want to take the fat Euro grant on offer to expand his mill and take on cheap Polish workers on zero hours contracts. He didn't believe this to be the future, just an unsustainable bubble of boom and bust, neither did he see the long term benefits for anyone of hiring cheap temporary foreign workers with no heart or desire.

Instead he concentrated on quality and especially sustainability, he could see how important this would become with mounting pressure on the environment from all the rapidly expanding businesses. Now and with the benefit of Brexit he sells his local homemade organic flour to artisan bakers throughout Islington, he also makes a killing from his equally organic "Windy" cider now selling for £15 a bottle in trendy bars around London and Manchester.

The big factory down the road who stole a lot of Windys market back then is now closing as they cant find enough cheap labour for their mass produced bleached flour shite, the local British people out of work don't want to work in a mill they want to be instagram influencers.

Cheers Windy, keep testing that Cider for quality and have one from me. A true visionary indeed.
Kin ell, how long did it take you to think that out, and then post it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on May 31, 2021, 11:37:03 am
Windy Miller despite being pissed on the job was a true visionary of his time.

He refused the chance to "move with the times" as he was often accused by Brian Cant. However tempting he didn't want to take the fat Euro grant on offer to expand his mill and take on cheap Polish workers on zero hours contracts. He didn't believe this to be the future, just an unsustainable bubble of boom and bust, neither did he see the long term benefits for anyone of hiring cheap temporary foreign workers with no heart or desire.

Instead he concentrated on quality and especially sustainability, he could see how important this would become with mounting pressure on the environment from all the rapidly expanding businesses. Now and with the benefit of Brexit he sells his local homemade organic flour to artisan bakers throughout Islington, he also makes a killing from his equally organic "Windy" cider now selling for £15 a bottle in trendy bars around London and Manchester.

The big factory down the road who stole a lot of Windys market back then is now closing as they cant find enough cheap labour for their mass produced bleached flour shite, the local British people out of work don't want to work in a mill they want to be instagram influencers.

Cheers Windy, keep testing that Cider for quality and have one from me. A true visionary indeed.

Quality!!   :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on May 31, 2021, 13:07:51 pm
You’ve got to love Cobblers fans, talking about rumours of players and why they won’t sign because we are sh1t.
We should have signed LLoyd Jones on a longer contract in Jan, also letting M Marshall go is another mistake.

Agree on the first point. Why didn’t we have an option in the clubs favour in the deal!?

Marshall I disagree with. Had one good game in about 20. Well below the standard required and I bet he wasn’t cheap either!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on May 31, 2021, 13:41:39 pm
Kin ell, how long did it take you to think that out, and then post it?


 ;D Not long, I have lots of time on my hands and a repetitive job!

Classic kids TV the quality of we will never see again, although I suspect back then the truck driver would've been on the sauce too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 31, 2021, 13:54:54 pm
Agree on the first point. Why didn’t we have an option in the clubs favour in the deal!?

Marshall I disagree with. Had one good game in about 20. Well below the standard required and I bet he wasn’t cheap either!
It’s all about opinions mate, let’s see who we replace M Marshall with?
Yet another sleepy, can’t be arsed, eye of the ball decision the club constantly makes with regards to player contracts, Lloyd Jones contract should have been tied up ages ago.
It’s all tone from the top Thomas can’t be ar5ed then why should I!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on May 31, 2021, 15:11:37 pm
Windy Miller despite being pissed on the job was a true visionary of his time.

He refused the chance to "move with the times" as he was often accused by Brian Cant. However tempting he didn't want to take the fat Euro grant on offer to expand his mill and take on cheap Polish workers on zero hours contracts. He didn't believe this to be the future, just an unsustainable bubble of boom and bust, neither did he see the long term benefits for anyone of hiring cheap temporary foreign workers with no heart or desire.

Instead he concentrated on quality and especially sustainability, he could see how important this would become with mounting pressure on the environment from all the rapidly expanding businesses. Now and with the benefit of Brexit he sells his local homemade organic flour to artisan bakers throughout Islington, he also makes a killing from his equally organic "Windy" cider now selling for £15 a bottle in trendy bars around London and Manchester.

The big factory down the road who stole a lot of Windys market back then is now closing as they cant find enough cheap labour for their mass produced bleached flour shite, the local British people out of work don't want to work in a mill they want to be instagram influencers.

Cheers Windy, keep testing that Cider for quality and have one from me. A true visionary indeed.

Fabulous story. Made me chuckle. You did miss out the all important ending though ...
Windy contributed £30k to Boris to help him fund his 3rd divorce and 4th wedding. The Conservative Party made Windy a peer and now he has an exclusive deal for flour and cider based products at Wetherspoons.
Everybody lived happily ever after - well at least Sir Windy, Boris and Wetherspoons did!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on May 31, 2021, 16:06:05 pm
Fabulous story. Made me chuckle. You did miss out the all important ending though ...
Windy contributed £30k to Boris to help him fund his 3rd divorce and 4th wedding. The Conservative Party made Windy a peer and now he has an exclusive deal for flour and cider based products at Wetherspoons.
Everybody lived happily ever after - well at least Sir Windy, Boris and Wetherspoons did!
You forgot the bit about Windy’s cider made for some excellent hand sanitizer on account of the high alcohol content, Boris made a quick call and a £50m contract later Windy now lives in the Bahamas and couldn’t give a fcuk.
That’s why I’m a Tory true blue, free market enterprise and a few contacts, it could be yoooouuuuuu.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 01, 2021, 05:33:31 am
could be a week for the pleasure beach


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 01, 2021, 09:07:16 am
could be a week for the pleasure beach

Calderwood?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 01, 2021, 09:41:57 am
could be a week for the pleasure beach
Attention seeking??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 01, 2021, 09:49:51 am
Attention seeking??

He seems to be getting good at that!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 01, 2021, 10:38:15 am
More interested in us tying up a goalkeeper than an Assistant as this point.

Anyone heard any rumblings on this?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 01, 2021, 11:58:38 am
From a supporters perspective it’s in danger of all looking a bit messy - is Calderwood the prospective DoF or Assistant Manager? I’m sure Ian Atkins’ name was mentioned in despatches but that’s gone quiet? I’m sure (I hope) things are clearer behind the scenes but it would be nice to be kept in the loop as we need to be in a position to start to recruit on the pitch properly as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 01, 2021, 12:49:06 pm
Agree on the first point. Why didn’t we have an option in the clubs favour in the deal!?

Marshall I disagree with. Had one good game in about 20. Well below the standard required and I bet he wasn’t cheap either!

Is ‘Caveat’ your general approach to most things Cobblers?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 01, 2021, 13:18:16 pm
Is ‘Caveat’ your general approach to most things Cobblers?
Is denial yours?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 01, 2021, 14:06:54 pm
It’s all about opinions mate, let’s see who we replace M Marshall with?
Yet another sleepy, can’t be arsed, eye of the ball decision the club constantly makes with regards to player contracts, Lloyd Jones contract should have been tied up ages ago.
It’s all tone from the top Thomas can’t be ar5ed then why should I!
You're completely right.... you shouldn't be ar5ed.
I'll miss your insight but what's right is right.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 01, 2021, 16:04:27 pm
You're completely right.... you shouldn't be ar5ed.
I'll miss your insight but what's right is right.
Thanks for that “Woody” it must get really uncomfortable?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 01, 2021, 17:06:28 pm
Roll up, roll up…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 01, 2021, 17:35:49 pm
Roll up, roll up…

Good or bad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 17:59:18 pm
Roll up, roll up…

Should we expect an announcement tomorrow?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 01, 2021, 18:15:59 pm
Roll up, roll up…
We off to the circus? The big top?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 01, 2021, 18:19:29 pm
Is Billy Smart or one of the Chipperfield's signing?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 01, 2021, 18:21:37 pm
A fùcking circus? Does that mean we've tempted Joey Barton away from Bristol to be assistant manager?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 01, 2021, 18:27:05 pm
Just marking cards, unsure of how imminent but am told we’re close to our first

Had a text last night but was told this morning that a deal has moved on since then


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on June 01, 2021, 18:32:04 pm
From Witton Albion, midfielder.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 01, 2021, 18:33:19 pm
Just marking cards, unsure of how imminent but am told we’re close to our first

Had a text last night but was told this morning that a deal has moved on since then

Do you know the name of said player? If so, in your opinion, is he any good?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 18:47:17 pm
From Witton Albion, midfielder.

https://www.wittonalbionfc.co.uk/teams/171192/player/billy-smart-2043111

??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 01, 2021, 18:59:02 pm
https://www.wittonalbionfc.co.uk/teams/171192/player/billy-smart-2043111

??

Only recently signed a new deal for next season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 19:00:58 pm
Only recently signed a new deal for next season.

I'd like to hope that if we wanted a player from tier 7 then we could settle a transfer fee with their club  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 01, 2021, 19:04:51 pm
I'd like to hope that if we wanted a player from tier 7 then we could settle a transfer fee with their club  ;D

Now you are joking  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 01, 2021, 19:11:21 pm
Is denial yours?

Have nether denied the Cobblers


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 01, 2021, 19:21:54 pm
It’s not that Smart chap


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 01, 2021, 19:28:52 pm
It’s not that Smart chap
Is it Billy Thick or Billy Sharp then? Are we signing the Baldes captain?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 01, 2021, 19:32:55 pm
Do you know the name of said player? If so, in your opinion, is he any good?

I do but am sworn to secrecy for now, all signings at our level are hard to judge really aren’t they so my opinion probably doesn’t hold much value  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 01, 2021, 19:38:45 pm
I do but am sworn to secrecy for now, all signings at our level are hard to judge really aren’t they so my opinion probably doesn’t hold much value  ;D

We won't hold you to it  ;D Ok, at least tell us the position they play? Was roll up, roll up a clue?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 19:54:02 pm
Just marking cards, unsure of how imminent but am told we’re close to our first

Had a text last night but was told this morning that a deal has moved on since then

Marking cards, roll up... somebody with the surname of a card reader perhaps!

Fortune? Devine?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 01, 2021, 20:00:21 pm
If we get to clues I’ll start messages with CLUE  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 01, 2021, 20:01:26 pm
Was roll up, roll up a clue?

Jamie Mackie (out of retirement!)
Marek Suchy


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 20:02:11 pm
If we get to clues I’ll start messages with CLUE  ;D

Go on, drop us a vague clue  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 01, 2021, 21:09:28 pm
We need someone who is capable of going 'forward' and shooting when shouted at to do so by those in the crowd!  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 01, 2021, 21:35:55 pm
Who we are going to sign in the close season is always fascinating but I can't help feeling we are going to have to see a significant improvement from many of the lads already in the building for next season. I wonder what's been said to them. They need to pull their finger out.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 01, 2021, 21:41:43 pm
Above all else, we need what we needed last year and frankly every year. A seasoned experienced campaigner who can influence the dressing room and drive the team during the game. Ideally one that can make it from the tunnel to the pitch without collapsing though. Ian Taylor MK2 would be very lovely thank you.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 21:44:04 pm
Another very good keeper up for grabs as Joe Day was released by Cardiff today. Didn't get into the side there but was brilliant in League Two previously at Newport County. Wouldn't be cheap but possible on a longer contract? Personally I think the keeper is one position not to scrimp on. Sign a really good number one and have faith in them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 01, 2021, 21:59:28 pm
Another very good keeper up for grabs as Joe Day was released by Cardiff today. Didn't get into the side there but was brilliant in League Two previously at Newport County. Wouldn't be cheap but possible on a longer contract? Personally I think the keeper is one position not to scrimp on. Sign a really good number one and have faith in them.
Andy Lonergan has been released by West Brom 37, 6’4 and years at a highish level? Phil Jagielka as well and there you go. Easy this recruitment lark, don’t know what all the fuss is about.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 01, 2021, 22:04:54 pm
Andy Lonergan has been released by West Brom 37, 6’4 and years at a highish level? Phil Jagielka as well and there you go. Easy this recruitment lark, don’t know what all the fuss is about.

Grandpa FC!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 01, 2021, 22:09:59 pm
Grandpa FC!
These young uns are alright for 10 minutes but they’ve got no stamina.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 02, 2021, 06:25:52 am
Anyone that starts with the phrase “ he wouldn’t be cheap” can be automatically ruled out .
The first news may well be about who is staying or otherwise.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 02, 2021, 07:11:43 am
Anyone that starts with the phrase “ he wouldn’t be cheap” can be automatically ruled out .
The first news may well be about who is staying or otherwise.

Mitchell is resigning on a 5 year deal, to take us to the UCL.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 07:40:03 am
Mitchell is resigning on a 5 year deal, to take us to the UCL.

"He wouldn't be expensive...."  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 02, 2021, 07:57:13 am
"He wouldn't be expensive...."  8)
He’d need to be a net positive contributor and only ever back up. 😎


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 09:13:36 am
"He wouldn't be expensive...."  8)

I don’t mind Mitchell at all. Some made him the fall guy for many of the games last season!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 02, 2021, 09:19:30 am
Not long now


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2021, 09:33:14 am
I don’t mind Mitchell at all. Some made him the fall guy for many of the games last season!

Must. Not. Bite.

Not long now

Also confirmed by James Heneghan. This will be a sign of what to expect this summer. Excitement, or bargain basements. Bring it on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 02, 2021, 09:53:05 am
I’ve had the maracas out and I’ve thought of our new signings song already



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 09:59:36 am
I’ve had the maracas out and I’ve thought of our new signings song already



That’s a decent clue- West Indies connection?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 02, 2021, 10:00:57 am
Bez from The Happy Mondays to provide vibes?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 02, 2021, 10:06:41 am
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/nicke_kabamba/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Smoking Boots on June 02, 2021, 10:07:20 am
New Goalscorer  ::)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57318253


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 02, 2021, 10:08:05 am
https://youtu.be/YicJPLT1dWU


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: southofthecounty on June 02, 2021, 10:10:42 am
New Goalscorer  ::)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57318253
My whelmed? It is under.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 02, 2021, 10:19:34 am
My whelmed? It is under.
Don't be... he thinks he'll score a lot of goals here


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 02, 2021, 10:20:01 am
The best thing you can say is that there are slight echoes of when we signed Oliver - having said that at least Oliver had a league track record. I’m assuming this would be a Foyle signing as he was working up in Scotland.  It doesn’t look great for Harry Smith that we’ve signed him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 02, 2021, 10:28:45 am
This is the pond in which we are fishing .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on June 02, 2021, 10:35:18 am
You miserable sods!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 02, 2021, 10:37:46 am
Look, we've had plenty of strikers firing on all cylinders that have been **** here, Harrad, Constantine, and plenty of strikers who were misfits and became amazing, Bayo, Oliver. Like everybody, he has at least 5 games before I'll make my mind up on him, let's see the lad show what he can do before we decide if we are happy or not with the signing.

9 goals is more than twice what any of our strikers got in the league last year.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 02, 2021, 10:40:51 am
A decent 1 in 3 record across his career but the vast majority of those goals have come at a very low level. His goal return at national league or higher is considerably lower, however having just watched the scout report video the club have put out there's some really good hold up play, layoffs and knock downs. He looks like a more mobile version of Oliver.

I think someone with those attributes doing the dirty work alongside Rose could prove an effective combo. Welcome aboard the good ship Cobblers, Nicke!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 10:41:11 am
Look, we've had plenty of strikers firing on all cylinders that have been **** here, Harrad, Constantine, and plenty of strikers who were misfits and became amazing, Bayo, Oliver. Like everybody, he has at least 5 games before I'll make my mind up on him, let's see the lad show what he can do before we decide if we are happy or not with the signing.

9 goals is more than twice what any of our strikers got in the league last year.

Exactly, but I'll give him a bit longer than five games to adjust to the increase in standard... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 02, 2021, 10:45:46 am
If Kabamba was coming in with crystal clear potential to score 20+ goals a season, he wouldn't be coming to Cobblers!
Vadaine Oliver came in with similar figures and worked his socks off and acheived a new career peak

Read that Kabamba was a sprinter in his youth and has some serious pace so even if he offers nothing else, he can stretch some teams
Something we havent been able to do in 2/3 years since Curle came in really

I'd have 11 track runners out there if I could!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Fred_NTFC on June 02, 2021, 10:57:38 am
Apparently he can't keep his footing, imagine him & Ashley-Seal upfront.  :D

One thing I will say is with Brady's background as a coach & his obvious intelligence as a person, I think he's a good bet to improve some rough diamonds.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 02, 2021, 11:37:29 am
We are starting to amass a lot of strikers! would make sense to get rid of a few. I would think Smith & Rose would probably be the most easy to offload.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 02, 2021, 11:39:40 am
Apparently he can't keep his footing, imagine him & Ashley-Seal upfront.  :D

One thing I will say is with Brady's background as a coach & his obvious intelligence as a person, I think he's a good bet to improve some rough diamonds.

Good luck Nicke. We wish you every success.

One comment regarding footing - Kilmarnock play on an artificial pitch which may be part of the problem.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 11:39:52 am
Have we got enough right backs?  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 02, 2021, 11:56:22 am
Clarity beat me to it...but of course, Richie (the Valens) Wellens' La Bamba will be sung, chanted, hummed...and finally destroying brains around Sixfields for the coming months!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 02, 2021, 11:58:20 am
Seems like a decent signing and not sure what some people are expecting with a limited budget.
Importantly JB is getting to pick his own team and we’ll soon see if he is going to work some league two magic.
The keeper situation will be the biggy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 12:09:33 pm
Seems like a decent signing and not sure what some people are expecting with a limited budget.
Importantly JB is getting to pick his own team and we’ll soon see if he is going to work some league two magic.
The keeper situation will be the biggy.

At least 3 or 4 on here are underwhelmed; of whom two already sharpening their knives. Talk about Deja Vu ::) Can see where JB is coming from; a team likely to bulldoze their way out of League 2!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 02, 2021, 12:10:33 pm
Here’s what Killie fans think of him, my personal favourite is “ he’s nowhere near our level”
Enjoy.
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/11580-kabamba/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 02, 2021, 12:11:38 pm
From the highlights reel he looks to be strong with a solid touch. We needed someone who could play with their back to goal last year. I think he looks a very good signing, a target man with a bit of mobility.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 02, 2021, 12:31:38 pm
Seems like a decent signing and not sure what some people are expecting with a limited budget.
Importantly JB is getting to pick his own team and we’ll soon see if he is going to work some league two magic.
The keeper situation will be the biggy.

Without wishing to be argumentative, who has said anything about what our budget is likely to be?  I wouldn’t have thought Brady, Foyle (and Calderwood to come?) would have signed on for the “project” without assurances that we’re going to give it a decent crack?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on June 02, 2021, 12:44:31 pm
Ba la la la Kabamba......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on June 02, 2021, 12:47:45 pm
damn, too slow

me, not Kabamba, hes supposed to be rapid


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monty on June 02, 2021, 13:13:44 pm
Here’s what Killie fans think of him, my personal favourite is “ he’s nowhere near our level”
Enjoy.
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/11580-kabamba/
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/11819-kabamba/

"That’s a much higher level that I expected"


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 02, 2021, 13:33:19 pm
Apparently he can't keep his footing, imagine him & Ashley-Seal upfront.  :D

I wonder if them swapping boots with each other would work?  >:(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 14:01:18 pm
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/11819-kabamba/

"That’s a much higher level that I expected"

https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/northampton-town/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 02, 2021, 14:30:30 pm
At first glance he appears to have the physical attributes which we lacked last season: power and pace. However, we’ve made ‘first glance’ signings before and they haven’t got us very far.

I’d like to know the extent to which KT’s much-heralded new data-based approach was used for this signing. For instance, is his percentage of aerial duels won and his ratio of hold-ups to lay-offs significantly better than what we have already? (Killie fans’ testimony would suggest not.)

Also not sure that getting a former loanee full back to say a couple of words about his mate constitutes a thorough ‘character reference’.

I’m not getting at Kabamba per se here - as others have said he could well do a Vadaine Oliver and prove a very astute signing. What I’m concerned about is whether the recruitment process in general has improved. The first thing I would be asking KT/JB if I was a journalist (or in one of the open forums) is simply: tell me how this signing is evidence of an improved recruitment process.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 14:31:56 pm
From the highlights reel he looks to be strong with a solid touch. We needed someone who could play with their back to goal last year. I think he looks a very good signing, a target man with a bit of mobility.

Having read the Kiliie forum appreciated this comment :
" think there is a player in Kabamba if properly coached .Wasn't that lobg ago he was supposedly being scouted from Bournemouth .a very frustrating player reminds of Jerome Varielle "


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 02, 2021, 14:32:09 pm
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/northampton-town/

The top two here is hilarious, jesus.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 02, 2021, 14:34:20 pm
So we have one of the new strikers in, I am neither over or underwhelmed.

Time will tell if he is any good, remember how many people bemoaned Oliver last season and he bagged more than just a few at Gillingham this season.

Interesting to see exactly how "quick" he is compared to our current crop.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 02, 2021, 15:00:03 pm

I’d like to know the extent to which KT’s much-heralded new data-based approach was used for this signing. For instance, is his percentage of aerial duels won and his ratio of hold-ups to lay-offs significantly better than what we have already? (Killie fans’ testimony would suggest not.)


Killie fans though haven’t seen our useless bunch of strikers for comparison, 9 goals would definitely be a big improvement on what our guys got!.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 02, 2021, 15:02:34 pm
Without wishing to be argumentative, who has said anything about what our budget is likely to be?  I wouldn’t have thought Brady, Foyle (and Calderwood to come?) would have signed on for the “project” without assurances that we’re going to give it a decent crack?

No argument here. Wasn’t suggesting our budget isn’t competitive for league 2 but how many league 2 players generate any serious excitement, especially before you see them?!
If we get Atkins, Calderwood, Chambers, Bayo and why not Trevor Morley, we’ll have no money left.  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 02, 2021, 15:05:17 pm
once we get rid of BAS and Smith we may have a bit more spending power , but who is likely to take them ?
I believe people will realise after this summer’s recruitment that actually the problem within this club is actually much deeper set .
No one has taken the club forward financially in a long time and questions must be asked over what happened to the Goode and play off money from last season.
Everything is in place from a football management point of view but no one can keep being expected to over perform by 10 league positions per season to cover up the cracks .



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 02, 2021, 15:10:23 pm
once we get rid of BAS and Smith we may have a bit more spending power , but who is likely to take them ?
I believe people will realise after this summer’s recruitment that actually the problem within this club is actually much deeper set .
No one has taken the club forward financially in a long time and questions must be asked over what happened to the Goode and play off money from last season.
Everything is in place from a football management point of view but no one can keep being expected to over perform by 10 league positions per season to cover up the cracks .



The Goode money was used for good old ‘running costs’ and meant that the chairman didn’t have to write any cheques until the end of April......
The playoffs would have cost the club money, there was no income, and the loss in match day revenue was negated by the FA cup run money and the PL bailout cash......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 02, 2021, 15:16:55 pm
once we get rid of BAS and Smith we may have a bit more spending power , but who is likely to take them ?
I believe people will realise after this summer’s recruitment that actually the problem within this club is actually much deeper set .
No one has taken the club forward financially in a long time and questions must be asked over what happened to the Goode and play off money from last season.
Everything is in place from a football management point of view but no one can keep being expected to over perform by 10 league positions per season to cover up the cracks .



This playing budget crap. You need a team, players that will go the extra mile and never give up. Just ask the Morecambe fans what is possible. And it happens every year up and down the country.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 15:28:37 pm
This playing budget crap. You need a team, players that will go the extra mile and never give up. Just ask the Morecambe fans what is possible. And it happens every year up and down the country.

Didn't we have that last season?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 02, 2021, 15:33:00 pm
This playing budget crap. You need a team, players that will go the extra mile and never give up. Just ask the Morecambe fans what is possible. And it happens every year up and down the country.
Your right the playing budget is crap, KT is throwing his toys out of his pram because the nasty council won’t give him his cake and eat it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 02, 2021, 15:35:22 pm
The Goode money was used for good old ‘running costs’ and meant that the chairman didn’t have to write any cheques until the end of April......
The playoffs would have cost the club money, there was no income, and the loss in match day revenue was negated by the FA cup run money and the PL bailout cash......

I can’t believe I’m going to defend KT here but….
If you are in a few million deep, plus playing to an empty stadium, anyone in their right mind would cut their cloth accordingly. Whether it is a big bucks sale, cup run etc, I don’t foresee the ‘profits’ being thrown at additional playing budget for the foreseeable. The only time we may see some bigger wedge is if we start flirting with the potential drop.
You have to assume we have a budget that is in the ball park of enabling some league two success on the pitch, so having the right management team is essential. IF JB ever starts complaining about a lack of resources then his credibility will probably already been left long behind him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 02, 2021, 15:35:46 pm
The first thing I would be asking KT/JB if I was a journalist (or in one of the open forums) is simply: tell me how this signing is evidence of an improved recruitment process.

Because he's going to be brilliant. Next.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2021, 15:45:56 pm
Give him a chance, he could be our new Vadaine Oliver


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 02, 2021, 15:49:21 pm
I didn't get the first la bamba clue despite being obvious, probably because its annoying shite,

I first thought of afrika bambaataa and Soul Sonic Force  :afro

Maybe my age or just the drugs I take.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 16:17:49 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/15133532/english-football-league-money-troubles/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 02, 2021, 16:31:18 pm
This is possibly a bit racist and lazy but watching his highlight reel he looks like he could be a bit like Jamille Matt.  Hopefully this is the case as Matt has always been a handful at this level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on June 02, 2021, 16:36:32 pm
I think some fans can't make their mind up what they want.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 17:12:02 pm
I think some fans can't make their mind up what they want.

Bring back the days when we used to turn up at the County Ground and support whoever was wearing Cobblers colours irrespective of their previous exploits, have the usual 'lost again' comments amongst us socially that night and forget about it until the next game.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 02, 2021, 17:50:17 pm
I can’t believe I’m going to defend KT here but….
If you are in a few million deep, plus playing to an empty stadium, anyone in their right mind would cut their cloth accordingly. Whether it is a big bucks sale, cup run etc, I don’t foresee the ‘profits’ being thrown at additional playing budget for the foreseeable. The only time we may see some bigger wedge is if we start flirting with the potential drop.
You have to assume we have a budget that is in the ball park of enabling some league two success on the pitch, so having the right management team is essential. IF JB ever starts complaining about a lack of resources then his credibility will probably already been left long behind him.
But he’s not.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 02, 2021, 18:35:08 pm
could be a week for the pleasure beach
Spot on transfer info...

Apparently nicke kabamba once went on holiday to Blackpool as a youngster....

Or are we about to do some business with Blackpool in the next few days/months/years ??
Any more transfer clues??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on June 02, 2021, 18:42:04 pm

No one has taken the club forward financially in a long time and questions must be asked over what happened to the Goode and play off money from last season.



No one has ever taken this football club forward financially, not one owner has managed to do that. Our two home grounds haven't helped that.

Secondly, not sure if you've been around Planet Earth recently, but football clubs haven't been able to earn a lot of money over the last 15 months and are still two months away from maybe starting to, although that's still TBC. The fact they've all managed to complete an entire season is quite a feat. So where do you think the Charlie Goode transfer money and the money from the FA Cup run has ended up?

Certainly not on refurbishing a house in Church Brampton.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 02, 2021, 18:48:11 pm
But he’s not.

Hence the big if. I’m sure he won’t and always prefer those accountable manager types. KT has shown faith on the back of a relegation, so I’m sure JB will want to show what he can do with a clean slate…or KT couldn’t be arsed to roll the dice again.
I predict we’ll be at the right end of the table this season….as long as he signs a goalie  :P
If not the merry go around will continue….


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 02, 2021, 19:49:06 pm
Spot on transfer info...

Apparently nicke kabamba once went on holiday to Blackpool as a youngster....

Or are we about to do some business with Blackpool in the next few days/months/years ??
Any more transfer clues??

a little premature with your numpty comments even by your standards .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 19:58:36 pm
Bring back the days when we used to turn up at the County Ground and support whoever was wearing Cobblers colours irrespective of their previous exploits, have the usual 'lost again' comments amongst us socially that night and forget about it until the next game.

Wasn’t always the case as can remember Roly Mills, Leck, Everett and Sanders getting the ‘treatment’; no internet then but can remember some vocal opinion ringing out!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 02, 2021, 21:00:28 pm
a little premature with your numpty comments even by your standards .

Oh me sides  ;D
Obviously your info didn’t stretch to today’s signing  ;D

I can match you’re accuracy....
We are about to sign some players who have league one/two experience before the season starts....

Not able to give names though blah blah blah

Just leave it to ntfc lad whose the only in the know poster left on here nowadays.

One source of genuine info and loads of guessers /attention seekers.

I have no idea whose signing and to be honest I’m not too fussed as unless Kelvin pulls his finger out and builds the much trumpeted redevelopment it will be a fourth season of sixfields exile for me.

Something needs to change and sadly the only certainty is unlike other clubs the change will not be bought about by the apathetic fans of Northampton who are more than satisfied bobbing along forever in league two...

Enjoy a few more seasons of on and off the field stagnation.
Il visit when things change

UTC


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 02, 2021, 23:20:42 pm
Oh me sides  ;D
Obviously your info didn’t stretch to today’s signing  ;D

I can match you’re accuracy....
We are about to sign some players who have league one/two experience before the season starts....

Not able to give names though blah blah blah

Just leave it to ntfc lad whose the only in the know poster left on here nowadays.

One source of genuine info and loads of guessers /attention seekers.

I have no idea whose signing and to be honest I’m not too fussed as unless Kelvin pulls his finger out and builds the much trumpeted redevelopment it will be a fourth season of sixfields exile for me.

Something needs to change and sadly the only certainty is unlike other clubs the change will not be bought about by the apathetic fans of Northampton who are more than satisfied bobbing along forever in league two...

Enjoy a few more seasons of on and off the field stagnation.
Il visit when things change

UTC

I prefer a successful team doing well in League 1 and support growing! Then that might be the time to think about redevelopment. Horse first followed by carriage! Without a successful side nothing much will happen!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 03, 2021, 07:51:17 am
Oh me sides  ;D
Obviously your info didn’t stretch to today’s signing  ;D

I can match you’re accuracy....
We are about to sign some players who have league one/two experience before the season starts....

Not able to give names though blah blah blah

Just leave it to ntfc lad whose the only in the know poster left on here nowadays.

One source of genuine info and loads of guessers /attention seekers.

I have no idea whose signing and to be honest I’m not too fussed as unless Kelvin pulls his finger out and builds the much trumpeted redevelopment it will be a fourth season of sixfields exile for me.

Something needs to change and sadly the only certainty is unlike other clubs the change will not be bought about by the apathetic fans of Northampton who are more than satisfied bobbing along forever in league two...

Enjoy a few more seasons of on and off the field stagnation.
Il visit when things change

UTC
You just cant keep away, can you?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 03, 2021, 08:10:30 am
You just cant keep away, can you?

Touche


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 03, 2021, 08:19:34 am
Oh me sides  ;D
Obviously your info didn’t stretch to today’s signing  ;D

I can match you’re accuracy....
We are about to sign some players who have league one/two experience before the season starts....

Not able to give names though blah blah blah

Just leave it to ntfc lad whose the only in the know poster left on here nowadays.

One source of genuine info and loads of guessers /attention seekers.

I have no idea whose signing and to be honest I’m not too fussed as unless Kelvin pulls his finger out and builds the much trumpeted redevelopment it will be a fourth season of sixfields exile for me.

Something needs to change and sadly the only certainty is unlike other clubs the change will not be bought about by the apathetic fans of Northampton who are more than satisfied bobbing along forever in league two...

Enjoy a few more seasons of on and off the field stagnation.
Il visit when things change

UTC
oh dear .
Have you sought any kind of help at all ? It is freely available and people to talk to at the end of a phone .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 03, 2021, 08:50:32 am
Is there another thread where moaners and bigger picture stuff can happen and we can keep this clear for ntfclad to give us clues or anyone who has spotted Bayo in the sixfields McDonalds?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 03, 2021, 08:51:38 am
Is there another thread where moaners and bigger picture stuff can happen and we can keep this clear for ntfclad to give us clues or anyone who has spotted Bayo in the sixfields McDonalds?



Here here...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 03, 2021, 09:03:18 am
Is there another thread where moaners and bigger picture stuff can happen and we can keep this clear for ntfclad to give us clues or anyone who has spotted Bayo in the sixfields McDonalds?


Yes, you've got all the others to choose from  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 03, 2021, 11:53:56 am
Is there another thread where moaners and bigger picture stuff can happen and we can keep this clear for ntfclad to give us clues or anyone who has spotted Bayo in the sixfields McDonalds?


In the voice of a Geordie, I fcuking luv moaning me.
Northampton fans special subject would be moaning, they even moan about people moaning.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 03, 2021, 12:03:30 pm
Moan all you want, every club does it. Just thought this was a transfer window thread thats all haha
It gets tiring reading through the same comments about the greater picture behind the club between the odd actual whisper about an actual transfer or thoughts on transfers


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 03, 2021, 12:07:41 pm
In the voice of a Geordie, I fcuking luv moaning me.
Northampton fans special subject would be moaning, they even moan about people moaning.
You actually make a good point. We are notoriously misabable and this might be half our problem. Right, lets all fix this with a happy smiley disposition at games and general goodwill to all players. Glass not half full but overflowing from now on. Watch us smile our way through the leagues with the happiest bunch of players on record  :) ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 03, 2021, 13:05:31 pm
Come on ntfclad...who's in the pipeline? It's far better to be disappointed in advance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 03, 2021, 13:28:27 pm
Come on ntfclad...who's in the pipeline? It's far better to be disappointed in advance.

We’ve signed Barry the barrel from Wellingborough Town and Big Steve from AFCRD (keeper), wages were a bit of an issue but it’s all sorted now, KT found a fiver in an old pair of jeans and the deal goes ahead


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 03, 2021, 14:05:53 pm
Is there another thread where moaners and bigger picture stuff can happen and we can keep this clear for ntfclad to give us clues or anyone who has spotted Bayo in the sixfields McDonalds?



Good idea. Maybe we can call it the Shoemaker thread  >:D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 03, 2021, 14:08:33 pm
We’ve signed Barry the barrel from Wellingborough Town and Big Steve from AFCRD (keeper), wages were a bit of an issue but it’s all sorted now, KT found a fiver in an old pair of jeans and the deal goes ahead

Great! When's the official announcement  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 03, 2021, 15:51:18 pm
oh dear .
Have you sought any kind of help at all ? It is freely available and people to talk to at the end of a phone .

They hung up


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 03, 2021, 15:59:24 pm
We’ve signed Barry the barrel from Wellingborough Town and Big Steve from AFCRD (keeper), wages were a bit of an issue but it’s all sorted now, KT found a fiver in an old pair of jeans and the deal goes ahead

You've just undone all of your good inside work, everyone knows Barry plays for Finedon.  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Smoking Boots on June 03, 2021, 16:12:42 pm
Great! When's the official announcement  ;D
When the XXXXXXL shirt is ready


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 03, 2021, 20:39:18 pm
Oh me sides  ;D
Obviously your info didn’t stretch to today’s signing  ;D

I can match you’re accuracy....
We are about to sign some players who have league one/two experience before the season starts....

Not able to give names though blah blah blah

Just leave it to ntfc lad whose the only in the know poster left on here nowadays.

One source of genuine info and loads of guessers /attention seekers.

I have no idea whose signing and to be honest I’m not too fussed as unless Kelvin pulls his finger out and builds the much trumpeted redevelopment it will be a fourth season of sixfields exile for me.

Something needs to change and sadly the only certainty is unlike other clubs the change will not be bought about by the apathetic fans of Northampton who are more than satisfied bobbing along forever in league two...

Enjoy a few more seasons of on and off the field stagnation.
Il visit when things change

UTC

You’re not to far from the truth there.

The poster in question has already posted 4 statements in the closed season of transfer or staff movements, none of which have happened.

Agreed, if every poster followed suit and spouted nonsense a couple of times a day the message board would become worthless.

Best leave matters to the likes of NTFC lad rather than guessing with no substance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 03, 2021, 21:01:31 pm
You’re not to far from the truth there.

The poster in question has already posted 4 statements in the closed season of transfer or staff movements, none of which have happened.

Agreed, if every poster followed suit and spouted nonsense a couple of times a day the message board would become worthless.

Best leave matters to the likes of NTFC lad rather than guessing with no substance.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 03, 2021, 21:27:45 pm
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Indeed.

To put it into perspective, 526 people have been on this message board today. If each one guessed a club that we maybe in talks with one way or the other. There would be no point in this message board.

Easiest to let those that are in the know share in information they have, rather than spouting nonsense...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 03, 2021, 22:47:47 pm
Indeed.

To put it into perspective, 526 people have been on this message board today. If each one guessed a club that we maybe in talks with one way or the other. There would be no point in this message board.

Easiest to let those that are in the know share in information they have, rather than spouting nonsense...

Can see you are an ‘if’ poster. Relatively few people post itk rumours on here. Out of the 500 odd viewing today only a small fraction perform this service(dry humour?). This fraction is diluted in any case down to 1 or 2 posters. If posters know of a transfer rumour with NTFC mentioned simply post it with a caveat if needs be. For me it is interesting rubbish’ 😇


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 04, 2021, 18:04:48 pm
Another player to have just been released from Kilmarnock who I wouldn't mind seeing at the Cobblers - Mitch Pinnock. Decent wide player only 26, did well at Dover and Wimbledon previously. Sure that Foyle will be aware of him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 04, 2021, 19:18:58 pm
I asked a monkey hanger mate about Kabamba, he said he has the skinniest legs he’s ever seen and then added he wouldn’t swop any of their current strikers for him!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 04, 2021, 22:31:24 pm
I asked a monkey hanger mate about Kabamba, he said he has the skinniest legs he’s ever seen and then added he wouldn’t swop any of their current strikers for him!
That's certainly not filling me with confidence.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 05, 2021, 08:23:52 am
I'd imagine he'll take up place similar to where Miller was playing at the end of the last season rather than an out and out number 9, unless they change formation.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 05, 2021, 08:40:51 am
I'd imagine he'll take up place similar to where Miller was playing at the end of the last season rather than an out and out number 9, unless they change formation.

Given that he’s 6ft 3in and doesn’t look like he’s ever played out wide I can’t see him being anything but an “out and out” centre forward. I’m sure Evers will comment but I’m concerned by the fact that he’s 28 and has never scored an English league goal. Like Bungle referred to, I would be intrigued as to how and why he was identified as it wouldn’t appear that he has been outstanding anywhere he’s been.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 08:54:04 am
Given that he’s 6ft 3in and doesn’t look like he’s ever played out wide I can’t see him being anything but an “out and out” centre forward. I’m sure Evers will comment but I’m concerned by the fact that he’s 28 and has never scored an English league goal. Like Bungle referred to, I would be intrigued as to how and why he was identified as it wouldn’t appear that he has been outstanding anywhere he’s been.
I think the club used the new data engine enriched with AI, The algorithms used were somewhat like x-y x 3.142 = cy then they held a committee meeting and KT decided he was fučking cheap.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Vince Planner on June 05, 2021, 09:09:50 am
I think the club used the new data engine enriched with AI, The algorithms used were somewhat like x-y x 3.142 = cy then they held a committee meeting and KT decided he was fučking cheap.
We get it, you don't like KT, but must you tell us in every thread?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 09:15:40 am
We get it, you don't like KT, but must you tell us in every thread?
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 05, 2021, 09:32:42 am
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.

Yet again trying to build yourself up with inuendo. I do hope for you sake that what you think you know is not illegal, because if it is and you do nothing you then become an accessory and are open to the same level of prosecution that they are. Obviously this does not apply if you are married to DB or KT, which could explain some of the viriol you exude.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 05, 2021, 09:50:12 am
Another player to have just been released from Kilmarnock who I wouldn't mind seeing at the Cobblers - Mitch Pinnock. Decent wide player only 26, did well at Dover and Wimbledon previously. Sure that Foyle will be aware of him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w)

Was always a fan when he was at Wimbledon actually! I'd happily take him for L2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on June 05, 2021, 09:57:29 am
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.
There is only one JOKE on this site.......................look in a mirror!

We are aware of your repetative anti-KT/DB stance from your constant posts, so why the incessant boring lecturing?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 05, 2021, 11:10:53 am
Yet again trying to build yourself up with inuendo. I do hope for you sake that what you think you know is not illegal, because if it is and you do nothing you then become an accessory and are open to the same level of prosecution that they are. Obviously this does not apply if you are married to DB or KT, which could explain some of the viriol you exude.

Utter rubbish. You are under no obligation to report a crime, and only deemed complicit if you aid the offender in some way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 12:10:59 pm
There is only one JOKE on this site.......................look in a mirror!

We are aware of your repetative anti-KT/DB stance from your constant posts, so why the incessant boring lecturing?
It’s simple because people like YOU are too thick to realise, you won’t have a club to support.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 05, 2021, 12:11:08 pm
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.
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Well why not tell us what you do then and enlighten us all to we should hate our chairman the same way as you do


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 12:19:59 pm
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.


Well why not tell us what you do then and enlighten us all to we should hate our chairman the same way as you do
ορκίστηκε για μυστικότητα


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 05, 2021, 12:21:32 pm
Utter rubbish. You are under no obligation to report a crime, and only deemed complicit if you aid the offender in some way.

Yes utter rubbish is what you've said. You are guilty of being an accessory by ommision, you do not have to have directly aided or been present, knowledge of the crime or intended crime must be reported, the exception being a spouse(except in terrorism cases).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 12:33:57 pm
It’s a JOKE lighten up a bit, the sun is shining, relax and your right and if you knew what I did you wouldn’t  like him either.


Well why not tell us what you do then and enlighten us all to we should hate our chairman the same way as you do
Oh go have a fūcking guess why I’m not putting it onto a public forum.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 05, 2021, 13:14:20 pm
Oh go have a fūcking guess why I’m not putting it onto a public forum.

Oh what a suprise, a simple question gets asked and is met with a rude and obnoxious response.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on June 05, 2021, 13:31:55 pm
It’s simple because people like YOU are too thick to realise, you won’t have a club to support.
You obviously are unable to answer with intelligence just braindead insults.

At least I give tangible support to my club with pride.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 05, 2021, 13:40:24 pm
You obviously are unable to answer with intelligence just braindead insults.

At least I give tangible support to my club with pride.

And judging by his response the very future of our club is at stake and yet he is not prepared to say why


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 05, 2021, 15:53:05 pm
You obviously are unable to answer with intelligence just braindead insults.

At least I give tangible support to my club with pride.
It’s only an insult if incorrect.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 05, 2021, 16:17:53 pm
Given that he’s 6ft 3in and doesn’t look like he’s ever played out wide I can’t see him being anything but an “out and out” centre forward. I’m sure Evers will comment but I’m concerned by the fact that he’s 28 and has never scored an English league goal. Like Bungle referred to, I would be intrigued as to how and why he was identified as it wouldn’t appear that he has been outstanding anywhere he’s been.

Just like Oliver; again the resident experts are chronically underwhelmed! It’s water off a ducks back for them!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on June 05, 2021, 18:32:23 pm
the fact that he’s 28 and has never scored an English league goal.

Perfect Cobblers signing


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 05, 2021, 20:54:01 pm
Perfect Cobblers signing

Ok Mr ‘Mysterious’ we know who you are


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bpcobbler on June 06, 2021, 10:01:42 am
Just popped by to see the latest transfer rumours, and to add my own, only to find this thread ruined as always by the same old boring farts.  ::)
Au revoir!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 06, 2021, 10:22:22 am
According to a journo on twitter Salford are now in for Lloyd Jones along with us. I assume he is based around this way so hoping that goes in our favour, but imagine they can boost his pay packet a fair bit.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 06, 2021, 12:34:04 pm
According to a journo on twitter Salford are now in for Lloyd Jones along with us. I assume he is based around this way so hoping that goes in our favour, but imagine they can boost his pay packet a fair bit.
It’s more likely to be Jones agent trying to get a better deal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 06, 2021, 12:34:36 pm
Brady did say some sort of deadline was in place for both Jones & Watson to accept our contract offers, so you would hope it's by the end of this coming week at the latest. As much as I want them to both stay, this can't drag on for much longer...

Salford are obviously gonna pay stupid wages so id rather we just accept it and move on...

Still, can't believe we (KC) didnt put a clause in the short term contract for Jones, giving us the option to automatically extend it in our favour, as at the time no one else wanted to sign him  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 06, 2021, 12:44:53 pm
Just popped by to see the latest transfer rumours, and to add my own, only to find this thread ruined as always by the same old boring farts.  ::)
Au revoir!!

Don't let that put you off mate. We all need some rumours because it's all fairly quiet at the moment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 06, 2021, 15:21:30 pm
Brady did say some sort of deadline was in place for both Jones & Watson to accept our contract offers, so you would hope it's by the end of this coming week at the latest. As much as I want them to both stay, this can't drag on for much longer...

Salford are obviously gonna pay stupid wages so id rather we just accept it and move on...

Still, can't believe we (KC) didnt put a clause in the short term contract for Jones, giving us the option to automatically extend it in our favour, as at the time no one else wanted to sign him  ::)

Even if there had been some such clause, there would likely have been another overwriting it: saying terms only applicable if club doesn't get relegated.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on June 07, 2021, 08:31:41 am
Just popped by to see the latest transfer rumours, and to add my own, only to find this thread ruined as always by the same old boring farts.  ::)
Au revoir!!

Well said


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 07, 2021, 08:50:40 am
The deadline for Jones and Watson was early last week .
Blackpool were after Jones because of connections to his days at Liverpool under 23s and the manager .
Blackpool’s promotion may have changed that approach .
No news i would say is bad news .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 07, 2021, 09:00:41 am
The deadline for Jones and Watson was early last week .
Blackpool were after Jones because of connections to his days at Liverpool under 23s and the manager .
Blackpool’s promotion may have changed that approach .
No news i would say is bad news .
No news is always bad news, as I said before, offer him £500 a week more if he signs this week, otherwise we withdraw the offer and move on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 07, 2021, 09:02:16 am
Just popped by to see the latest transfer rumours, and to add my own, only to find this thread ruined as always by the same old boring farts.  ::)
Au revoir!!
Same age as you though son. And I do know who you are.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 07, 2021, 09:12:39 am
The deadline for Jones and Watson was early last week .
Blackpool were after Jones because of connections to his days at Liverpool under 23s and the manager .
Blackpool’s promotion may have changed that approach .
No news i would say is bad news .

By all means correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to recall that it sounds like you either know JB or know someone that knows him - if this is true what are the vibes concerning the budget that he has available to him?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 07, 2021, 09:18:32 am
By all means correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to recall that it sounds like you either know JB or know someone that knows him - if this is true what are the vibes concerning the budget that he has available to him?

He asked for assurances before taking the job, so whatever it is he must think it is enough to compete at the right end.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 07, 2021, 09:31:04 am
He asked for assurances before taking the job, so whatever it is he must think it is enough to compete at the right end.

That’s what I keep hoping but I recall B&S saying a few things after we signed Kabamba that made it sound like we are scraping the bottom of the barrel.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 07, 2021, 10:17:04 am
By all means correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to recall that it sounds like you either know JB or know someone that knows him - if this is true what are the vibes concerning the budget that he has available to him?
no , neither of those statements are true Irchy i am afraid.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 07, 2021, 10:17:24 am
No news is always bad news, as I said before, offer him £500 a week more if he signs this week, otherwise we withdraw the offer and move on.

I have to agree. We cannot underestimate how good it will be to keep a settled center back pairing but at the same time need to get our arses moving if a rebuild is required.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on June 07, 2021, 10:46:52 am
Same age as you though son. And I do know who you are.

Are you his dad then?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 07, 2021, 10:47:29 am
I have to agree. We cannot underestimate how good it will be to keep a settled center back pairing but at the same time need to get our arses moving if a rebuild is required.
We are stuck in ground hog day, it’s like history keep repeating itself, get promoted, under invest in the summer panic in Jan window, get relegated, offer terms to best players wait and wait and get turned down, will the club ever learn FFS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 07, 2021, 13:37:15 pm
Are you his dad then?  ;D
Same age? Kin ell.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2021, 14:15:50 pm
Jones I could understand paying a bit over the odds for. But doing that for Watson who one purple spell aside has been beyond average for us, would be lunacy. Revoke offer asap in my opinion and bring in players who want to play for the club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 07, 2021, 14:18:09 pm
Are you his dad then?  ;D

A tad personal Jeanie ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 07, 2021, 14:47:54 pm
Jones I could understand paying a bit over the odds for. But doing that for Watson who one purple spell aside has been beyond average for us, would be lunacy. Revoke offer asap in my opinion and bring in players who want to play for the club.

Yep, deadline was the end of last week.
JB’s first big test …
Groundhog Day or Brave New World?

Tell them to sod off JB. If the offer isn’t good enough for them, move on.
Yeh, I know the cliched bollocks about a footballer players career being short but here’s some more s*** sayings for JB/LJ/RW to ponder on - and then do the right thing.
“a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush”
“Loyalty is a 2 way street”
“The weak wait while the winner acts”
“Fortune favours the bold”
“Action may not always bring happiness but there is no happiness without action”
And my favourite from Norma Jean herself …
“A woman doesn’t need anyone that doesn’t need her!”

You know what you’ve got to do JB - pull the trigger!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 07, 2021, 15:22:21 pm
I've been off work for a week and a half. I will go to work on his brother tomorrow and try to find out which way things are leaning!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 07, 2021, 15:26:04 pm
I've been off work for a week and a half. I will go to work on his brother tomorrow and try to find out which way things are leaning!
Good stuff, I’ll have a wild stab in the dark and say he isn’t going to join?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2021, 15:47:32 pm
Yep, deadline was the end of last week.
JB’s first big test …
Groundhog Day or Brave New World?

Tell them to sod off JB. If the offer isn’t good enough for them, move on.
Yeh, I know the cliched bollocks about a footballer players career being short but here’s some more **** sayings for JB/LJ/RW to ponder on - and then do the right thing.
“a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush”
“Loyalty is a 2 way street”
“The weak wait while the winner acts”
“Fortune favours the bold”
“Action may not always bring happiness but there is no happiness without action”
And my favourite from Norma Jean herself …
“A woman doesn’t need anyone that doesn’t need her!”

You know what you’ve got to do JB - pull the trigger!


We made the fatal error of waiting on Vadaine to make up his mind. And cannot do that again.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 07, 2021, 15:58:14 pm
One of the things that stuck in my mind about Chris Wilder was he liked to get his business done early so the squad was settled before the season kicked off and they had a full pre-season to get to know each other.
How often do we do that and how often are we successful?
Other than financially I dont see any benefit to waiting so long get players signed on. One or two targets maybe but if you need to bring in numbers then you need to conclude deals asap.
Thats through my uneducated fan tinted glasses


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 07, 2021, 17:46:17 pm
One of the things that stuck in my mind about Chris Wilder was he liked to get his business done early so the squad was settled before the season kicked off and they had a full pre-season to get to know each other.
How often do we do that and how often are we successful?
Other than financially I dont see any benefit to waiting so long get players signed on. One or two targets maybe but if you need to bring in numbers then you need to conclude deals asap.
Thats through my uneducated fan tinted glasses

Transfer window opens on Wednesdau if I'm not mistaken so might see some action soon...not that I'm holding my breath, just wishful thinking


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 07, 2021, 18:18:32 pm
Yep, deadline was the end of last week.
JB’s first big test …
Groundhog Day or Brave New World?

Tell them to sod off JB. If the offer isn’t good enough for them, move on.
Yeh, I know the cliched bollocks about a footballer players career being short but here’s some more **** sayings for JB/LJ/RW to ponder on - and then do the right thing.
“a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush”
“Loyalty is a 2 way street”
“The weak wait while the winner acts”
“Fortune favours the bold”
“Action may not always bring happiness but there is no happiness without action”
And my favourite from Norma Jean herself …
“A woman doesn’t need anyone that doesn’t need her!”

You know what you’ve got to do JB - pull the trigger!

They are still under contract until the end of the month so could still sign the deal.
Agents thinking they can get players a better deal in L1 or L2 must be mad. No clubs really have any money to pay over the top in wages.
Sometimes its better the devil you know


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on June 07, 2021, 18:42:44 pm
They are still under contract until the end of the month so could still sign the deal.
Agents thinking they can get players a better deal in L1 or L2 must be mad. No clubs really have any money to pay over the top in wages.
Sometimes its better the devil you know

Well said


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on June 07, 2021, 19:16:51 pm
There's no need for JB to be a drama queen about them signing. Once the deadline has passed the club will no doubt look for other players. If the players do then ask to return I'm sure they will look at revised contracts in the light of the extended time it took them to respond, assuming of course no decent replacements have been signed in the meantime


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 07, 2021, 19:33:04 pm
i don’t think you will find anyone hanging around waiting for decisions once the time passes for them to commit .
You have to look a bit deeper than that .
The club want to sell season tickets and if you announce your 2 best players are leaving too early people will not renew .
Especially when it dawns that the replacements are coming from other clubs’ reject list.
We simply cannot compete with the Salfords and Blackpools of this world and so players will leave .
I don’t mean to be negative but i don’t think people realise the level we compete at .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 07, 2021, 19:52:14 pm
They are still under contract until the end of the month so could still sign the deal.
Agents thinking they can get players a better deal in L1 or L2 must be mad. No clubs really have any money to pay over the top in wages.
Sometimes its better the devil you know

Forgot about the contract x2 does not expire to end of June. Seems most of us let our expert views run way ahead! Jones signed when he was no great shakes in first spell so we gave him a chance ; now we need him😔. If we could keep the defence together plus Watson we might do ok!  You Still think Jones is the king pin for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 07, 2021, 20:05:06 pm
i don’t think you will find anyone hanging around waiting for decisions once the time passes for them to commit .
You have to look a bit deeper than that .
The club want to sell season tickets and if you announce your 2 best players are leaving too early people will not renew .
Especially when it dawns that the replacements are coming from other clubs’ reject list.
We simply cannot compete with the Salfords and Blackpools of this world and so players will leave .
I don’t mean to be negative but i don’t think people realise the level we compete at .

You seriously think season ticker holders are waiting to see if Jones and Watson resign,before renewing?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 07, 2021, 20:28:03 pm
Forgot about the contract x2 does not expire to end of June. Seems most of us let our expert views run way ahead! Jones signed when he was no great shakes in first spell so we gave him a chance ; now we need him😔. If we could keep the defence together plus Watson we might do ok!  You Still think Jones is the king pin for us?
Jones is the one we need to keep.
We don't want to see another bolger situation


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 07, 2021, 21:51:15 pm
We seem to be in the rather unfortunate position of having players we don’t want on longer term contracts and players we do on shorter term ones. I think that’s called backing the wrong horse.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Buster on June 07, 2021, 22:31:37 pm
Yep, same as always.  This time last year people were saying how good KC was as spotting talent. Yet we lost a top striker in Oliver because he only came in on a 1 year deal, but had to keep Warburton who was given 2 (or was it 3).  Whatever, he got that one arse about face


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 08, 2021, 08:34:35 am
Yep, same as always.  This time last year people were saying how good KC was as spotting talent. Yet we lost a top striker in Oliver because he only came in on a 1 year deal, but had to keep Warburton who was given 2 (or was it 3).  Whatever, he got that one arse about face

I think this proves the step up from non league to the EFL. In the last few years we have taken a gamble on Warburton, Korboa, Lobjot, Herbert no of which have made the grade.
Courtney Herbert can be seen playing Sunday Morning Football for Standards Leap


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on June 08, 2021, 09:22:09 am
Some news here.. https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/defender-jones-to-leave-cobblers-after-failing-to-agree-new-deal-3264849


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 09:23:50 am
Some news here.. https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/defender-jones-to-leave-cobblers-after-failing-to-agree-new-deal-3264849
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Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 08, 2021, 09:24:19 am
Replacement expected in the next 24H.... who we saying then?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2021, 09:34:45 am
Great news. Do the same for Watson now please.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on June 08, 2021, 09:37:41 am
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/brady_080621/ slightly more detail on club site


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2021, 09:42:42 am
All eyes turn to NTFC Lad. Get your hints out  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 08, 2021, 09:44:16 am
You seriously think season ticker holders are waiting to see if Jones and Watson resign,before renewing?
it doesn’t matter what i think , it’s what the football club think .
Some people will not renew season tickets unless there is a positive feeling about the forthcoming season.
It’s not about Jones or Watson , it’s about the plans moving forward .
The Jones situation has now been revealed but it was known last week . It was just a case of if Blackpool were still interested after promotion because they had tapped him up beforehand . Remember we played them at the end of the season.
Moving on .....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 09:57:49 am
JB has made the right decision in terms of Jones, hope he does the same with Watson if he doesn't sign by the deadline.

Hoping the signing will be a goalkeeper, but not sure they are classed as exciting.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 09:58:50 am
I think this proves the step up from non league to the EFL. In the last few years we have taken a **** on Warburton, Korboa, Lobjot, Herbert no of which have made the grade.
Courtney Herbert can be seen playing Sunday Morning Football for Standards Leap

I watched Lobjoit play in a Milton Keynes Sunday League friendly at the weekend......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 08, 2021, 10:03:22 am
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/brady_080621/ slightly more detail on club site

Well done Jon Brady. Great to see a manager sticking to his word and not being messed about.

Lets hope Lloyds agent can find him a L1 deal! 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 10:04:32 am
As previously rumoured, could be Rob Hall ex Oxford, as Brady mentions "as long as the medical goes well" and that "He is an exciting player who has a good amount of experience."

Would fit the bill...

As for Jones, he didn't want to feature in our promotion play-off campaign, incase he got injured...

Then, he came back with his tail between his legs, when a deal elsewhere (Inter Milan lol) never materialised...

We then gave him a contract when no one else would & as previously said, should have put in a clause in our favour to sign him if he does well (relegation or not)

Then again, if a player does not want to play for you what's the point in keeping him anyway

Plenty of decent replacements out there so hopefully the new recruitment team can unearth a gem


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 08, 2021, 10:10:30 am
Some news here.. https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/defender-jones-to-leave-cobblers-after-failing-to-agree-new-deal-3264849
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Whatever the views on JB’s player transfer policy Jones is a big loss for us. Disappointing he has now left….apparently.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 08, 2021, 10:11:38 am
Disappointing news about Jones - he’s going to have to be careful that he’s not being given the wrong career advice as the grass isn’t always greener.  My money’s on Daniel Powell, he had injury issues last season which could be the fitness/medical comment.  Whether or not he would fit the bill of an exciting signing is another matter entirely.  Same applies to Rob Hall in fact.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2021, 10:24:15 am
.

Whatever the views on JB’s player transfer policy Jones is a big loss for us. Disappointing he has now left….apparently.

No apparently about it Evers, confirmed on the club site. https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/brady_080621/

I don’t see this as disappointing for a few reasons.

1) We haven’t overpaid.
2) He was still part of a crap defence last year. Yes he was better than Bolger and Racic but then Turbo and Mad Michelle also would have been.
3) We’ve actually given ourselves plenty of the summer to recruit a replacement.
4) We’ve maybe learnt the lessons form last summer.
5) Horsfall was much improved in the second half of the season and I doubt there will be interest for him.
6) Jones had no interest for 6 months and has taken the piss out of us. Good riddance.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: andy scouse on June 08, 2021, 10:27:01 am
The departure of Jones is the most obvious bit of news of late, as predictable as night follows day. Artel at Crewe seems to be where he is heading, they deserve each other, lets move on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 10:31:21 am
Disappointing news about Jones - he’s going to have to be careful that he’s not being given the wrong career advice as the grass isn’t always greener.  My money’s on Daniel Powell, he had injury issues last season which could be the fitness/medical comment.  Whether or not he would fit the bill of an exciting signing is another matter entirely.  Same applies to Rob Hall in fact.

Would take Hall over Powell, purely based on the fact I cannot get over how someone with all the right footballing attributes (Powell) could be so goddamn awful 90% of the time.

Hoping it is neither at this stage.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 08, 2021, 10:32:59 am
Jones signing for Cambridge in the next few days.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 10:45:29 am
The club seem to be in a right pickle, a month after the last game and we have net less players and no goalkeepers, no assistant, it’s absolutely shambolic, not to mention what’s coming on the horizon.......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 08, 2021, 10:48:39 am
Daniel Powell who wasn't very good the first time around? Let's try some new donkeys  :P
If it is him and JB's idea of 'exciting' then the bar has quickly been lowered.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 10:51:23 am
All eyes turn to NTFC Lad. Get your hints out  ;)

I know the identity of the assistant but won’t be hinting as it’s not done - but I’m happy

Has the position of the signing been revealed yet?





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 10:51:35 am
The club seem to be in a right pickle, a month after the last game and we have net less players and no goalkeepers, no assistant, it’s absolutely shambolic, not to mention what’s coming on the horizon.......
do you remember the pre-season where we sold Toney for pitance, and then topped up our squad at the last minute with a trialist (that still plays for us) and an unknown guy from Telford, and everyone was moaning about cost-cutting? ...I can't quite remember what happened?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 08, 2021, 10:53:00 am
The club seem to be in a right pickle, a month after the last game and we have net less players and no goalkeepers, no assistant, it’s absolutely shambolic, not to mention what’s coming on the horizon.......

What’s coming on the horizon?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 08, 2021, 10:58:15 am
I know the identity of the assistant but won’t be hinting as it’s not done - but I’m happy


We'll all be happy if he's a top class goalkeeper...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 10:59:27 am
I know the identity of the assistant but won’t be hinting as it’s not done - but I’m happy

Has the position of the signing been revealed yet?





The position of the new signing hasn't been revealed yet. People have suggested Daniel Powell or Rob Hall - JB has described him as exciting  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: super-si on June 08, 2021, 11:04:02 am
Powell would not be a good choice, unless Brady can teach him how to make himself available to receive the ball in a good position. ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 11:12:38 am
It’s neither Powell or Hall


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 08, 2021, 11:13:29 am
The concern if its Hall is his injury record, he cannot stay fit.

Total minutes played in all comps over the last few years:

20/21: 932
19/20: 1372 (Covid shortened season)
18/19: 136
17/18: 1205
16/17: 2305
15/16: 1675

One of the best abilities is availability and he is not available very often. Obviously there are periods where he simply was not selected, but there are sizeable gaps in between game time regularly.

Compare that to Sam Hoskins who plays all the time (to a lot of peoples frustration) played 4450 minutes last season, more than Hall has managed in the last 4 years combined.

From memory the biggest injury problem in our title winning season was Holmes who still played over 2000 minutes (in the league alone). With squad numbers limited these days I would hope we steer clear of someone with such an injury record regardless of quality, otherwise we can only reasonably expect for him to be available for a small % of the games.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 08, 2021, 11:14:07 am
It’s neither Powell or Hall

Well that makes my post absolutely useless haha. Good to know though!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 08, 2021, 11:16:10 am
It’s neither Powell or Hall

Some good news at last. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 11:17:53 am
It’s neither Powell or Hall

Will there be an announcement today?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 11:20:53 am
Will there be an announcement today?

Unsure to be honest



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 11:26:13 am
I know the identity of the assistant but won’t be hinting as it’s not done - but I’m happy
Has the position of the signing been revealed yet?

Do we know the position of the new signing?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 11:27:28 am
Or rather, are you able to tell us?  ;D

We know nothing!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 11:34:18 am
Do we know the position of the new signing?

Midfielder


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 11:36:43 am
Midfielder

Good stuff, appreciate the info as always.

Anyone got any guesses?  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 11:40:32 am
Midfielder

Wide midfielder (winger) or central?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 08, 2021, 11:41:21 am
Tranmere player?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 11:46:05 am
Erhun Oztumer?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 12:09:20 pm
What’s coming on the horizon?
A storm of biblical proportions. I bet Gareth is s***tîng himself 🤐


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 08, 2021, 12:18:57 pm
Erhun Oztumer?

I'd be very happy with that!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 08, 2021, 12:44:09 pm
After scoring 30 goals in 86 games at Walsall Oztumer has not scored a single EFL goal since in his 54 games for Bolton, Charlton abd Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 08, 2021, 12:48:40 pm
After scoring 30 goals in 86 games at Walsall Oztumer has not scored a single EFL goal since in his 54 games for Bolton, Charlton abd Bristol Rovers.

He sounds perfect and will fit right in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 08, 2021, 12:53:26 pm
Ricky coming back again?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 08, 2021, 12:56:31 pm
Lloyd Jones looks set for Cambridge
Not any of the teams had read were in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 13:03:17 pm
After scoring 30 goals in 86 games at Walsall Oztumer has not scored a single EFL goal since in his 54 games for Bolton, Charlton abd Bristol Rovers.

Maybe he needs a spell in L2 to get going again?  ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 08, 2021, 13:12:25 pm
After scoring 30 goals in 86 games at Walsall Oztumer has not scored a single EFL goal since in his 54 games for Bolton, Charlton abd Bristol Rovers.

Yikes, thats a worry! TBF two of those seasons were in the championship so that is a mitigating factor i would think.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 08, 2021, 13:28:27 pm
It’s neither Powell or Hall
Great news


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 08, 2021, 14:00:00 pm
Jon Brady. "One of the early policy decisions from all on the recruitment committee was to ensure that the players we signed really wanted to be at Northampton Town.“

Well done JB! My confidence levels have just doubled!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 08, 2021, 14:37:00 pm
Lloyd Jones looks set for Cambridge
Not any of the teams had read were in.
That seems very narrow minded. Cant see them being in L1 very often or offering a lot of money. But good luck to him wherever he ends up


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 08, 2021, 15:33:41 pm
That seems very narrow minded. Cant see them being in L1 very often or offering a lot of money. But good luck to him wherever he ends up

Northampton to Cambridge. Not exactly a move inspired by long term ambition. They'll be back within a year. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 15:37:11 pm
Northampton to Cambridge. Not exactly a move inspired by long term ambition. They'll be back within a year. ;D
Awks
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/cambridge_fixture/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on June 08, 2021, 15:43:45 pm
New signing to be announced at 17:00.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 15:49:46 pm
Expecting this one to have followed the route Kabamba took down south


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 15:52:07 pm
Welcome the Turkish Messi!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 08, 2021, 16:00:29 pm
Decent enough signing!

Happy with that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 08, 2021, 16:03:28 pm
Was always a fan when he was at Wimbledon actually! I'd happily take him for L2

Happy then, happy now haha! Love that signing


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 08, 2021, 16:05:20 pm
Looks a good signing on paper that


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on June 08, 2021, 16:09:17 pm
Important balance to our attacking options, welcome.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2021, 16:10:15 pm
Change my Pinnock,
Smack my Mitch up.

There’s his song and don’t try and make any other.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 08, 2021, 16:14:45 pm
Another player to have just been released from Kilmarnock who I wouldn't mind seeing at the Cobblers - Mitch Pinnock. Decent wide player only 26, did well at Dover and Wimbledon previously. Sure that Foyle will be aware of him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGWb1AL63w)


Keep up lads, I called this 4 days ago!!

In all seriousness though I am NOT Martin Foyle  ;D

Looks a good signing, I remember him causing us problems when he played for Wimbledon. Think he had a good partnership with Joe Pigott the striker. If I remember rightly, he's left footed but cuts in from the right side of the pitch.

Welcome Mitch!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 16:14:53 pm
Looks a decent signing...should finally put to bed the Daniel Powell rumours  ;D

https://youtu.be/R46enlMhUmk


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 08, 2021, 16:44:38 pm
Prefer Queen of the South to Kilmarnock...but gues we are rapidly becoming Killies B squad! ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 08, 2021, 17:26:10 pm
Any goalkeepers out of contract from the SPL at the moment?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 08, 2021, 17:39:24 pm
Like the look  of him


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 08, 2021, 17:51:14 pm
Good management from Brady re: Jones. Hasn't allowed him to leave us high and dry in the vein of Oliver and Coke. Fully expect Watson to go the same way later in the week.

With Bolger and Sheehan leaving we were always going to need to recruit at least one additional centre back; now we need at least two: a guaranteed starter and leader and a decent back up. (I'm assuming that Brady isn't a fan of 3 at the back from what we've seen so far.)

Horsfall has a lot of potential but he needs to be alongside a dominant leader. I'd like to see us sign one experienced leader like Luke Chambers and one up-and-coming centre back with a bit of pace to provide back up and competition.

Pinnock looks decent enough but I'm wondering why the Dons and Killie let him go. It does make me chuckle a bit that KT made all those noises about a data-based approach but our recruitment so far seems to be based on players that Foyle happened to see play against Motherwell.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 08, 2021, 17:53:44 pm
Good management from Brady re: Jones. Hasn't allowed him to leave us high and dry in the vein of Oliver and Coke. Fully expect Watson to go the same way later in the week.

With Bolger and Sheehan leaving we were always going to need to recruit at least one additional centre back; now we need at least two: a guaranteed starter and leader and a decent back up. (I'm assuming that Brady isn't a fan of 3 at the back from what we've seen so far.)

Horsfall has a lot of potential but he needs to be alongside a dominant leader. I'd like to see us sign one experienced leader like Luke Chambers and one up-and-coming centre back with a bit of pace to provide back up and competition.

Pinnock looks decent enough but I'm wondering why the Dons and Killie let him go. It does make me chuckle a bit that KT made all those noises about a data-based approach but our recruitment so far seems to be based on players that Foyle happened to see play against Motherwell.




Pinnock was offered a new deal by Kilmarnock, but turned it down as wanted to come back to England


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 18:03:20 pm
LLoyd Jones has indeed signed for Cambridge United.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 08, 2021, 18:07:10 pm
LLoyd Jones has indeed signed for Cambridge United.

Actually I'm more interested in Alex Jones teaming up with Pinnock.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: super-si on June 08, 2021, 18:08:15 pm
Mitch Pinnock looks to have some talent...give him a chance. He's the sort of player who could do it for us!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 18:10:58 pm
Actually I'm more interested in Alex Jones teaming up with Pinnock.

He's got to get a contract first.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 08, 2021, 18:12:47 pm
He's got to get a contract first.

He's got to prove his fitness


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 08, 2021, 18:20:52 pm
He's got to prove his fitness

Well, he's been invited to training. He might decide not to come or will get himself fixed up somewhere else.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 08, 2021, 18:35:49 pm
Well, he's been invited to training. He might decide not to come or will get himself fixed up somewhere else.

I liked what I saw of him last season, I think he has potential for L2.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 08, 2021, 18:50:50 pm
Kilmarnock Forum:-
Poster 1 - Pinnock has joined Kabamba at Northampton.
Poster 2 - I feel for their fans.
Obviously both highly rated, we will judge for ourselves in a couple of months time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 08, 2021, 19:10:31 pm
Actually I'm more interested in Alex Jones teaming up with Pinnock.
No chance .
As for Powell - even less chance .
Happy with Pinnock though - i think that’s a good signing .
Shows we will be playing 442


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 19:10:52 pm
Kilmarnock Forum:-
Poster 1 - Pinnock has joined Kabamba at Northampton.
Poster 2 - I feel for their fans.
Obviously both highly rated, we will judge for ourselves in a couple of months time.
Just read that, the next post says, who the fûck are their agents?
Scottish Prem is way better standard than L2 so they maybe ok, I’m not holding my breath though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 08, 2021, 19:11:16 pm
According to the Chron we offered L Jones a better contract than Cambridge but he wanted league 1 football.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 08, 2021, 19:17:36 pm
According to the Chron we offered L Jones a better contract than Cambridge but he wanted league 1 football.

Am I being a bit nasty if I hope he falls flat on his face?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 08, 2021, 19:29:42 pm
Am I being a bit nasty if I hope he falls flat on his face?
Nope fcuk him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 08, 2021, 19:32:46 pm
Am I being a bit nasty if I hope he falls flat on his face?

Me too Sing.
We showed him a lot of respect and loyalty by giving him 2 chances to rebuild his career.
As soon as he has the upper hand he flips the finger to the club and fans.

I guess it’s the way of the world though. It makes us all feel a bit better if it’s all about money but in this case it doesn’t seem to be …. So, as far as I’m concerned, he can rot!

Don’t need anyone that don’t need us -  so let’s move on


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 08, 2021, 19:41:07 pm
Mitch Pinnock looks to have some talent...give him a chance. He's the sort of player who could do it for us!

I liked the look of his show reel - mind you if you wait long enough you’ll fill a 5 minute video of nice football for anyone (excluding all our forwards last year though!!?).

A 6 foot plus tricky winger - reminds me of the legendary Josh Low. If he’s half as good as the Welsh wizard he’ll get some hearts beating faster next season at Sixfields!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on June 08, 2021, 21:10:12 pm
So it looks like Danny Rogers will be the goalie.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 09, 2021, 03:16:28 am
Me too Sing.
We showed him a lot of respect and loyalty by giving him 2 chances to rebuild his career.
As soon as he has the upper hand he flips the finger to the club and fans.

I guess it’s the way of the world though. It makes us all feel a bit better if it’s all about money but in this case it doesn’t seem to be …. So, as far as I’m concerned, he can rot!

Don’t need anyone that don’t need us -  so let’s move on

Agreed. This is sport and having a half hearted want away with Charlie big potato ambitions is worthless. Heart, desire and pride are what you need.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 09, 2021, 08:21:58 am
Scottish Prem is way better standard than L2

aside from 2 teams - it isnt


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 09:50:08 am
aside from 2 teams - it isnt

There’s no chance we could beat Coolies team Hibs or Aberdeen, Hearts, etc, you do know we’ve just signed two players from Kilmarnock who were relegated from the SPL?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 09, 2021, 10:08:33 am
aside from 2 teams - it isnt


I don't think you must watch much of the SPL. It really is.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 09, 2021, 10:41:27 am
I don't think you must watch much of the SPL. It really is.

i do

it isnt


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 10:49:50 am
i do

it isnt

;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 09, 2021, 10:57:03 am
Me too Sing.
We showed him a lot of respect and loyalty by giving him 2 chances to rebuild his career.
As soon as he has the upper hand he flips the finger to the club and fans.

I guess it’s the way of the world though. It makes us all feel a bit better if it’s all about money but in this case it doesn’t seem to be …. So, as far as I’m concerned, he can rot!

Don’t need anyone that don’t need us -  so let’s move on
Playing devils advocate if he had struggled we would have all been on his back, called him a c***, told him to fcuk off cause he’s sh1t and chucked him under the first bus that came along. However, because he happened to be good we are all outraged that he has had the audacity to turn us down. I think that’s called having your cake and eating it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 09, 2021, 10:58:18 am
Pinnock and Pollock in midfield. Sounds like a CBBC show.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 09, 2021, 11:01:10 am
Pinnock and Pollock in midfield. Sounds like a CBBC show.

A commentator's nightmare - surely only a matter of time before Timbo calls one of them Pillock!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 09, 2021, 11:20:31 am
A commentator's nightmare - surely only a matter of time before Timbo calls one of them Pillock!

 ;D ;D ;D

I have literally just laughed out loud!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 09, 2021, 11:32:16 am
i do

it isnt


👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on June 09, 2021, 12:04:38 pm
A commentator's nightmare - surely only a matter of time before Timbo calls one of them Pillock!
More likely b ollock.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 12:22:36 pm
More likely b ollock.
Nothing will be more annoying the Toggle’s constant mispronouncing of Van Veen as Von Vain.
He’s our Tim though. 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 09, 2021, 13:44:58 pm
Guessing as no news on Watson at this point he will probably go the same way as Jones.

Does JB dare to start the season with Pollock and McWilliams as the midfield two?

I know we still have plenty of signings to come (maybe) but is the team as it stands on paper that bad?  ;D

                         GK

     Harriman Dyche Horsfall Mills

   Hoskins McWilliams Pollock Pinnock

            Chuk      Kabamba


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 09, 2021, 13:55:46 pm
i do

it isnt


Well you have Evers agreeing with you so you must be right  ::)

Let's agree to disagree on this matter


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 14:25:03 pm
Guessing as no news on Watson at this point he will probably go the same way as Jones.

Does JB dare to start the season with Pollock and McWilliams as the midfield two?

I know we still have plenty of signings to come (maybe) but is the team as it stands on paper that bad?  ;D

                         GK

     Harriman Dyche Horsfall Mills

   Hoskins McWilliams Pollock Pinnock

            Chuk      Kabamba
;D It’s dreadful, no keeper two teenagers , someone who hasn’t kicked a ball in 18 months and absolutely no cover.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 09, 2021, 15:57:02 pm
;D It’s dreadful, no keeper two teenagers , someone who hasn’t kicked a ball in 18 months and absolutely no cover.

and the season starts this saturday! we have no chance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 09, 2021, 16:04:56 pm
Guessing as no news on Watson at this point he will probably go the same way as Jones.

Does JB dare to start the season with Pollock and McWilliams as the midfield two?

I know we still have plenty of signings to come (maybe) but is the team as it stands on paper that bad?  ;D

                         GK

     Harriman Dyche Horsfall Mills

   Hoskins McWilliams Pollock Pinnock

            Chuk      Kabamba

Lots of work to be done. I hope we had a ready made replacement for Jones.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 16:27:43 pm
and the season starts this saturday! we have no chance.

He asked if the team was any good as it stands on paper.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 09, 2021, 16:33:37 pm
Guessing as no news on Watson at this point he will probably go the same way as Jones.

Does JB dare to start the season with Pollock and McWilliams as the midfield two?

I know we still have plenty of signings to come (maybe) but is the team as it stands on paper that bad?  ;D

                         GK

     Harriman Dyche Horsfall Mills

   Hoskins McWilliams Pollock Pinnock

            Chuk      Kabamba

At the minute that looks shocking
We need to get a Keeper Experienced CB, CDM, Right Winger, and a Striker through the door.Hopefully, with the amount of experience, we have, getting players in earlier will be part of the approach

I feel for Hoskins as he clearly gives 100% but just does not cut it for me.
.
I'm guessing there will be the normal dipping into the loan market to fill the gaps on the cheap.

With so many players being released though surely it can't be that hard to get squad players in with experience?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 09, 2021, 16:54:46 pm
After stepping up to league 1 and being one of the players who did their ability justice through sheer effort...will that improve him for our tilt in league 2. Just asking, don't fancy being vilified for this post!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 09, 2021, 17:03:36 pm
Was a stupid question though really. Of course the team looks weak when you're only two signings through Summer and having lost 15, but it obviously doesnt end there.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 09, 2021, 17:11:04 pm
Guessing as no news on Watson at this point he will probably go the same way as Jones.

Does JB dare to start the season with Pollock and McWilliams as the midfield two?

I know we still have plenty of signings to come (maybe) but is the team as it stands on paper that bad?  ;D

                         GK

     Harriman Dyche Horsfall Mills

   Hoskins McWilliams Pollock Pinnock

            Chuk      Kabamba

No Sowerby or Rose? I’m not arguing as neither has done anything at the club to merit a place in the side.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 09, 2021, 17:15:35 pm
It was a tongue in cheek post to be fair, thought the emoji might give it away......

Obviously lots of work to be done, but I'm would not mind seeing Pollock and McWilliams given a go together.

Too often we look like we have a decent crop of youngsters, give them five minutes off the bench and then release them.

Why don't we actually gave some of them some game time, and see how they get on? Realistically I don't see us challenging this season, guessing the aim will be to avoid the drop again.

Need more rumours!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 09, 2021, 17:29:19 pm
Need more rumours!  ;D
Super Sam for player assistant manager and sponge man.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 09, 2021, 17:39:53 pm
No Sowerby or Rose? I’m not arguing as neither has done anything at the club to merit a place in the side.

Sowerby and Rose have both been reasonably successful at this level, with Rose scoring over 50 goals and Sowerby excelling in a loan spell at Carlisle.I think both may have a part to play this year if they can earn Brady's trust.

To be fair to Rose he's a decent finisher but didn't suit the lone striker 4-5-1/ 4-3-3 systems which Brady was forced to play due to the limitations of our personnel. He could thrive in a standard 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 with decent service and Brady has hinted that he wants to play two up front. On the other hand, I wouldn't be massively surprised if he moved on.

I think Sowerby would be fine as a partner for McWilliams at the base of a 4-2-3-1. I didn't see much creativity or goal threat from him though so I'd be a tad concerned if he was deployed in an advanced position. Having said that, this is a completely different division: we're not going to be playing teams who have 70%+ possession and someone like Sowerby could well come into his own.








Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 09, 2021, 18:37:01 pm
Super Sam for player assistant manager and sponge man.

8 goals and 6 assists last season, you could say he was our best player?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 09, 2021, 19:06:07 pm
8 goals and 6 assists last season, you could say he was our best player?
He was for losing possession.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 09, 2021, 19:15:41 pm
8 goals and 6 assists last season, you could say he was our best player?
I didn't say how soon.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 09, 2021, 19:59:50 pm
After stepping up to league 1 and being one of the players who did their ability justice through sheer effort...will that improve him for our tilt in league 2. Just asking, don't fancy being vilified for this post!

You won’t be, you are fully entitled to praise/support/criticise Hoskins. Seen enough of Hoskins to appreciate him; the way he slotted that goal against Burton is a lasting impression for me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 05:46:17 am
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416 (https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 06:57:29 am
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416 (https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416)
Emmm he will be 36 in a couple of months, I’d say good luck to him but no thanks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on June 10, 2021, 07:11:53 am
Seems Col U have signed two 35 year old very experienced Championship players from Ipswich, with a slightly younger Freddie Sears lined up too.
Will be interesting to see if signing all that experience and pedigree pays off. Hard to imagine it won't if they have youthful legs around that spine.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 10, 2021, 07:47:24 am
It’s easy to write off old players but we all know how important Ian Taylor was to us and Wes Hoolahan was pivotal to Cambridge getting promoted at 39. I don’t think I would have gone for Chambers or Sears but who knows.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 10, 2021, 08:04:35 am
It’s easy to write off old players but we all know how important Ian Taylor was to us and Wes Hoolahan was pivotal to Cambridge getting promoted at 39. I don’t think I would have gone for Chambers or Sears but who knows.



Signing older players is a bit of a dilemma - you never know if you are getting them in the season that is just beyond where they should have stopped playing, where either their legs have gone or they start picking up niggling injuries that mean they are rarely available. That said, if you get lucky, you get a very good player that you may not have been able to otherwise afford who brings experience, a calming influence and a lot of nous, not to mention a player that just wants to keep playing football.

I guess it's just a case of being prepared to flip a coin and seeing which one you get!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 10, 2021, 08:20:55 am
He was for losing possession.

i agree


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 10, 2021, 09:51:18 am
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416 (https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/luke-chambers-to-join-colchester-8031416)

With his injury record, experience and leadership qualities he would have been a great captain for us. Good signing for Col Utd.
He'll have a couple of years left in him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 10, 2021, 09:55:46 am
It’s easy to write off old players but we all know how important Ian Taylor was to us and Wes Hoolahan was pivotal to Cambridge getting promoted at 39. I don’t think I would have gone for Chambers or Sears but who knows.



Agreed, people forget that Matty Taylors goals and assists were what kept us up after Wilder left, despite fact his legs had gone. Clarke Carlisle helped steady the ship to when he came in, even though he was past his best. We even saw the benefit of Sheehan last year, just a shame his injury record was so bad.
I would hold no objection for old championship/league one campaigner (with a good fitness record) coming in in the twilight of his career.  Would also help plays like Horsfall and McWilliams.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 10:04:10 am
some good news on the horizon folk ....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2021, 10:06:35 am
some good news on the horizon folk ....

New signing, re-signing or Assistant Manager?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 10, 2021, 10:24:09 am
some good news on the horizon folk ....

I said that once in 1984 and the very next year Graham Carr arrived.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 10, 2021, 10:28:12 am
some good news on the horizon folk ....

No, that's a partial eclipse, not Bayo on his way back.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 10, 2021, 10:32:54 am
I think he is referring to Ryan Watson


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 10, 2021, 10:40:21 am
I think he is referring to Ryan Watson

leaving?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2021, 10:42:40 am
I think he is referring to Ryan Watson

Hmmmmm.  He was probably best of a bad bunch last season but he does tend to go missing at times - he will hopefully be able to take games by the scruff of their neck more at a lower level this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 10:59:02 am
some good news on the horizon folk ....
Ted’s found the gas bottle for his caravan?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 10, 2021, 11:29:23 am
Some of our other former players on the move:-
Jack Bridge has gone back to Southend.
Louis Moult has left PNE for Burton.
Matt Crookes is wanted by Ipswich.
JJO'T still available.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 11:32:31 am
Chance meeting with someone in Tesco this morning and I’m also expecting some news today, potentially a couple of things


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 11:33:54 am
Also expecting some news today, potentially a couple of things
Teds gas bottle?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 10, 2021, 11:38:15 am
Chance meeting with someone in Tesco this morning and I’m also expecting some news today, potentially a couple of things

Well done! Keep up the good work 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 10, 2021, 11:55:02 am
Ted’s found the gas bottle for his caravan?
Or he paid the deposit on his old one.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 12:02:10 pm
Chance meeting with someone in Tesco this morning and I’m also expecting some news today, potentially a couple of things

 8) You met up with Tabasco Kid  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 12:15:22 pm
folk won’t need to be detectives soon hopefully .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 10, 2021, 12:23:39 pm
Chance meeting with someone in Tesco this morning and I’m also expecting some news today, potentially a couple of things
Jamie Dodgers back in stock?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2021, 12:35:24 pm
folk won’t need to be detectives soon hopefully .

Elementary my dear Watson.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 12:56:19 pm
2 things on the agenda today then.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 13:10:55 pm
2 things on the agenda today then.

Watson & Calderwood being announced would be pretty swell!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 10, 2021, 13:15:50 pm
can we get some classic clues then please haha


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 13:23:19 pm
can we get some classic clues then please haha

The more things change the more they stay the same...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 10, 2021, 13:28:52 pm
The more things change the more they stay the same...

Baptiste?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 10, 2021, 13:29:45 pm
Let's face it, our 'insiders' are pretty naff.
We need mystic mother-in-law to start posting  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 13:34:29 pm
Let's face it, our 'insiders' are pretty naff.
We need mystic mother-in-law to start posting  ;D

Sorry you feel that way Tone


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 13:36:54 pm
Sorry you feel that way Tone

I do get a little tingle when I see you've posted ntfclad  ;D

Will both announcements be today/tomorrow?

Is one the assistant?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2021, 13:37:55 pm
Baptiste?

Alex Baptiste signed a new contract at Bolton a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone fit the bill that Kilmarnock have released recently 😜.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 13:38:47 pm
I do get a little tingle when I see you've posted ntfclad  ;D

Will both announcements be today/tomorrow?

Is one the assistant?

Expecting both today and no one isn’t the assistant


Midfielder in midfielder out


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 10, 2021, 13:43:40 pm
The more things change the more they stay the same...
Status Quo concert on the pitch?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on June 10, 2021, 13:46:51 pm
O'Toole back again?

Or Emyr Huws?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 10, 2021, 13:55:22 pm
Ryan Watson OUT, AN Other Watson IN


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 13:57:30 pm
Ryan Watson OUT, AN Other Watson IN

Kyle Rafferty ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 13:58:28 pm
Ryan Watson OUT, AN Other Watson IN
closer than you might think that


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 10, 2021, 14:05:38 pm
What’s Ben Watson up to these days?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 10, 2021, 14:06:37 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 10, 2021, 14:06:59 pm
Matt Crookes is wanted by Ipswich.

Apparently Luton are looking at him as well.  


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on June 10, 2021, 14:11:16 pm
Just stuck £20 on Cobblers to be relegated.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 10, 2021, 14:11:42 pm
closer than you might think that

is it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: southofthecounty on June 10, 2021, 14:15:30 pm
folk won’t need to be detectives soon hopefully .
..._ . ._. _.__  __. ___ ___ _..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 10, 2021, 14:28:24 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/)

Like that we are taking no crap from Watson dithering. TTFN


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 10, 2021, 14:32:23 pm
Expecting both today and no one isn’t the assistant


Midfielder in midfielder out

Is the 2 announcements Lewis in and then Watson out then?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 14:35:05 pm
Is the 2 announcements Lewis in and then Watson out then?


Indeed


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 10, 2021, 14:39:40 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/ (https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/paul_lewis/)

Part of a team that made the play offs.

Good amount of games at this level.

Scored a decent amount of goals from midfield.

What is not to like about this signing?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on June 10, 2021, 14:45:08 pm
Part of a team that made the play offs.

Good amount of games at this level.

Scored a decent amount of goals from midfield.

What is not to like about this signing?

Someone said something negative about an Ex player so therefore he will be rubbish for us. That's how it works.. just like Holmes.
Not that I'm saying he will be the next Ricky Holmes.. just, I want to see him play for us before judging him.
 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 10, 2021, 14:47:24 pm
8) You met up with Tabasco Kid  ;D
You like to follow people around the board, dont you?
Dont worry, you wont get under my skin. You are not good enough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 10, 2021, 14:51:56 pm
Someone said something negative about an Ex player so therefore he will be rubbish for us. That's how it works.. just like Holmes.
Not that I'm saying he will be the next Ricky Holmes.. just, I want to see him play for us before judging him.

Certainly agree about seeing him play first, we have had plenty arrive with a fanfare that have been absolute s***e and vice versa.

Just unsure why people seem so glum about our signings, what exactly did they expect at this level?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 10, 2021, 14:55:36 pm
Everyone thought Bolger was a good signing this time last year


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 14:57:30 pm
You like to follow people around the board, dont you?
Dont worry, you wont get under my skin. You are not good enough.

Ok - Super Sleuth 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on June 10, 2021, 15:03:59 pm
Just stuck £20 on Cobblers to be relegated.

If you're throwing money around, you might as well give it to me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 15:10:55 pm
Part of a team that made the play offs.

Good amount of games at this level.

Scored a decent amount of goals from midfield.

What is not to like about this signing?
Emmm we have basically got rid of a midfielder who scored 9 goals in L1 last year for one who scored 7 goals in L2. Not really sure what’s too exciting about it tbh.
Still let’s see him play first.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 10, 2021, 15:14:19 pm
Everyone thought Bolger was a good signing this time last year

I don’t remember opinions on Bolger but there were plenty on here that thought last year’s recruitment was very poor, with the side weaker than the one promoted and having a distinct lack of goals in it.

This year I’m finding it hard to have any gut feeling either negative or positive on the signings so far



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 15:15:13 pm
I don’t remember opinions on Bolger but there were plenty on here that thought last year’s recruitment was very poor, with the side weaker than the one promoted and having a distinct lack of goals in it.

This year I’m finding it hard to have any gut feeling either negative or positive on the signings so far


Maybe this will help.
https://www.thefootballnetwork.net/boards/read/s383.htm?730,17000886


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 10, 2021, 15:15:27 pm
Emmm we have basically got rid of a midfielder who scored 9 goals in L1 last year for one who scored 7 goals in L2. Not really sure what’s too exciting about it tbh.
Still let’s see him play first.

Its nice to see the club sticking to deadlines. I assume watson was hoping we would offer him more money and that has come back to haunt him.
Watson doesnt even have a new club lined up


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 15:20:57 pm
Its nice to see the club sticking to deadlines. I assume watson was hoping we would offer him more money and that has come back to haunt him.
Watson doesnt even have a new club lined up
Completely agree we shouldn’t wait, although what does that say about the attractiveness of the club in general?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 15:29:09 pm
Its nice to see the club sticking to deadlines. I assume watson was hoping we would offer him more money and that has come back to haunt him.
Watson doesnt even have a new club lined up

Be surprised if he hasn't, as any L1 midfielder who can score 9 goals is worth a punt from any L1 Club seeking more firepower in Midfield. As I understand it both Watson and Jones players are still employed by NTFC up to the end of June. If this is the case they may have signed prelim' contracts (in Jones case) with their prospective Clubs. These agreements are not water tight.

If my understanding is incorrect please advise otherwise.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 10, 2021, 15:32:12 pm
Sorry you feel that way Tone

Just a funny….the issue is that none of your source material is going to be very exciting and there were better clues on 321  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 10, 2021, 15:58:00 pm
Certainly agree about seeing him play first, we have had plenty arrive with a fanfare that have been absolute s***e and vice versa.

Just unsure why people seem so glum about our signings, what exactly did they expect at this level?

Completely agree with you. Dont really care about what fans of other clubs say tbh. I remember pompey fans slagging of Ricky Holmes and he turned out OK. Just because a couple of tranmere fans say he is no great loss doesn't mean he is rubbish. After all I'll say the same about Watson, no great loss to be honest and if he doesn't want to be hear then cheerio


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 10, 2021, 16:08:02 pm
Be surprised if he hasn't, as any L1 midfielder who can score 9 goals is worth a punt from any L1 Club seeking more firepower in Midfield. As I understand it both Watson and Jones players are still employed by NTFC up to the end of June. If this is the case they may have signed prelim' contracts (in Jones case) with their prospective Clubs. These agreements are not water tight.

If my understanding is incorrect please advise otherwise.

I think the "transfer" can be cancelled by either party before the actual date.

Watson is a strange one, yes he finished our top scorer but until JB took over he looked average. Any club looking at him will take the full season into account. Clubs will be wondering what watson they will get


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 10, 2021, 16:09:43 pm
Emmm we have basically got rid of a midfielder who scored 9 goals in L1 last year for one who scored 7 goals in L2. Not really sure what’s too exciting about it tbh.
Still let’s see him play first.

Watson scored 5 goals in L2 last time (I think) after scoring 2 in the previous 5 seasons to it.  :)

Like you say, let's see what he looks like in some proper games first.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 16:12:06 pm
closer than you might think that
See what i did there
one detective out and another one in


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 10, 2021, 16:14:25 pm
Refreshing to see a manager not being messed around. On the flip side it looks like 3 very average signings so far.

On paper the replacements looks cheaper than those they have replaced. Maybe we are saving cash for a couple of big incomings!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on June 10, 2021, 16:27:03 pm
Lewis would have played a fair chunk of his games for Cambridge under the management of Colin Calderwood.

Would have been there at the same time as Richards


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 16:28:28 pm
Watson was good when pushed forward because he scored a few which we desperately needed. But without the goals he is average as a midfielder and that’s what he is ultimately in the side for. One of those “luxury we can’t afford types”. To be brutally honest that’s why it was a good idea to push him forward, no significant loss to the midfield. Don’t get me wrong, he’s ok but I think there are better around.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on June 10, 2021, 16:32:01 pm
Be surprised if he hasn't, as any L1 midfielder who can score 9 goals is worth a punt from any L1 Club seeking more firepower in Midfield. As I understand it both Watson and Jones players are still employed by NTFC up to the end of June. If this is the case they may have signed prelim' contracts (in Jones case) with their prospective Clubs. These agreements are not water tight.

If my understanding is incorrect please advise otherwise.


They sign a contract to start on 1 July, just like our new players have. The fact they are employed up to the end of June by NTFC is of no relevance really, they are free agents from 1 July. If Watson had signed for someone else I'm sure his new club would have announced it...unless they want do some big unavailing like we did many years ago with Taylor,Jess and Dyche. I doubt Watson warrants that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 10, 2021, 16:34:37 pm
Like all things wage related, I dont think we have any way whatsoever of knowing who is being paid what. I think its fine to be unimpressed with the impressions of the signing, and to also realise that other fans opinions isnt a ironclad guanratee on the value for the team. For instance, Oliver was panned even by Morecambe fans, Lines was idolised by Rovers fans. We'll see how they play soon enough.

Really wish we valued people who could pass the ball and create more than we do though.

Jones was definitely a bigger loss than Watson, but everyone called both leaving. Definitely learnt lessons from last year, as I was certain Curle thought it was nailed on we'd sign both Oliver and Morton until the day they didnt, which left us with no-one.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 10, 2021, 16:35:13 pm
One free transfer leaves , another one arrives

Interestingly for all the clubs soundbytes about a new pathway blah blah blah , the two players we’d have like to have kept haven’t bought into it and have jumped ship

That’s the crux of it


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 10, 2021, 16:47:35 pm
folk won’t need to be detectives soon hopefully .

0 guesses out of 4 so far. Keep going, you’ll get one soon!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 17:01:14 pm
Refreshing to see a manager not being messed around. On the flip side it looks like 3 very average signings so far.

On paper the replacements looks cheaper than those they have replaced. Maybe we are saving cash for a couple of big incomings!?
😂😂😂 maybe KT will answer all the Trusts questions and give full refunds to all season ticket holders as well!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 10, 2021, 17:07:19 pm
See what i did there
one detective out and another one in

Watson was never a detective. He just rode the coattails. ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on June 10, 2021, 17:51:55 pm
I am a touch disappointed, although not surprised, by the general negativity greeting our new signings. Brady is in the process of surrounding himself with people that have both a mountain of experience in the game and the club at heart. No doubt there will be failures but, maybe a tad naively, I expect our recruitment to be a step or two up on recent seasons.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 17:57:52 pm
0 guesses out of 4 so far. Keep going, you’ll get one soon!
really ?
i am sure i mentioned a detective - Lewis
I thought it would be earlier which is why i asked about Tranmere the other day before the last arrival .
Pleasure beach - calderwood as you will discover .
Others  may be hidden , who knows .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on June 10, 2021, 17:58:32 pm
Emmm we have basically got rid of a midfielder who scored 9 goals in L1 last year for one who scored 7 goals in L2. Not really sure what’s too exciting about it tbh.
Still let’s see him play first.

There is FAR more to a midfielder than goals scored.         ::) ;D
.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 10, 2021, 18:09:33 pm
really ?
i am sure i mentioned a detective - Lewis
I thought it would be earlier which is why i asked about Tranmere the other day before the last arrival .
Pleasure beach - calderwood as you will discover .
Others  may be hidden , who knows .

Who knows??

NTFC lad that’s who….
The only poster on here with a hundred percent track record.

If you want info he’s the man to take notice of.
He’s the only poster with proper inside info and contacts.

Would it be possible to have a ntfc lad transfer thread that is separate from the other pages of wish lists and guesses just so we can cut to the chase…



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 18:14:35 pm
really ?
i am sure i mentioned a detective - Lewis
I thought it would be earlier which is why i asked about Tranmere the other day before the last arrival .
Pleasure beach - calderwood as you will discover .
Others  may be hidden , who knows .


You'll learn to be secure in your own self soon enough  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 10, 2021, 18:15:43 pm
A few thoughts:

1. Watson and Jones were always going to get L1 offers. We shouldn't see their departures as rejection of Brady's 'project', just a exercise of completely justifiable ambition on their parts. Brady showed good management in setting a deadline and sticking to it.

2. I'd have liked Watson to stay but he's not a huge loss. 6 of his goals came in a 5 game purple patch and quite a few were from set pieces. His passing, creativity/assists and tackling were all bang average really and I wouldn't say he stood out when we were last in L2. In fact Curle benched him quite a bit at the start of this season. Will he repeat last season's feat and score 9+ goals again for a team who are not set up for him to play as a kind of advanced false 9? We'll see.

3. What I would say about the new signings so far is this:

- None of them are 'exciting' (not that this necessarily counts for much)
- None of them scream revolutionary 'data-based' recruitment to me

At first glance, the thought process behind the Lewis signing seems to be: we've just lost a goal-scoring midfielder, let's bring another
one in. Once again, I'd like to know the data which was used to identify Lewis as a good signing beyond a simplistic glance at the goals scored column.

If KT has identified poor recruitment as the primary reason for our relegation, and identified a data-based approach as the solution then we need to see some evidence that the process has improved.












Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 18:34:23 pm


They sign a contract to start on 1 July, just like our new players have. The fact they are employed up to the end of June by NTFC is of no relevance really, they are free agents from 1 July. If Watson had signed for someone else I'm sure his new club would have announced it...unless they want do some big unavailing like we did many years ago with Taylor,Jess and Dyche. I doubt Watson warrants that.

Well my real point is if a player 'signs' for us as an example and he then becomes an official signee on the 1st July; Jones
has done the same thing with Cambridge if he has serious second thoughts can he legally opt out prior to 1st July?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 10, 2021, 18:41:01 pm
Well my real point is if a player 'signs' for us as an example and he then becomes an official signee on the 1st July; Jones
has done the same thing with Cambridge if he has serious second thoughts can he legally opt out prior to 1st July?

I do not believe so, they sign pre-contracts. So basically that contract just kicks in on 1st July, its now set in stone.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 10, 2021, 18:47:14 pm
I do not believe so, they sign pre-contracts. So basically that contract just kicks in on 1st July, its now set in stone.

Absolutely correct. Otherwise it would be mayhem with players signing then pulling out at the 11th hour. Pre-contract basically means full contract from a certain date - normally 1st July.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on June 10, 2021, 18:47:39 pm
If KT has identified poor recruitment as the primary reason for our relegation, and identified a data-based approach as the solution then we need to see some evidence that the process has improved.

There's only one form of evidence that really counts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 10, 2021, 19:09:03 pm
A few thoughts:

1. Watson and Jones were always going to get L1 offers. We shouldn't see their departures as rejection of Brady's 'project', just a exercise of completely justifiable ambition on their parts. Brady showed good management in setting a deadline and sticking to it.

2. I'd have liked Watson to stay but he's not a huge loss. 6 of his goals came in a 5 game purple patch and quite a few were from set pieces. His passing, creativity/assists and tackling were all bang average really and I wouldn't say he stood out when we were last in L2. In fact Curle benched him quite a bit at the start of this season. Will he repeat last season's feat and score 9+ goals again for a team who are not set up for him to play as a kind of advanced false 9? We'll see.

3. What I would say about the new signings so far is this:

- None of them are 'exciting' (not that this necessarily counts for much)
- None of them scream revolutionary 'data-based' recruitment to me

At first glance, the thought process behind the Lewis signing seems to be: we've just lost a goal-scoring midfielder, let's bring another
one in. Once again, I'd like to know the data which was used to identify Lewis as a good signing beyond a simplistic glance at the goals scored column.

If KT has identified poor recruitment as the primary reason for our relegation, and identified a data-based approach as the solution then we need to see some evidence that the process has improved.


Pretty much spot on here, but I would suggest that the data-based approach is very much still a planned idea at best. KT said already that they aren't looking into hiring a data analyst "yet" - because, you know, why would we rush something like this after a calamitous relegation with poor recruitment at the heart of the issues?

As for Watson, I don't think he's close to being as much of a loss as Lloyd Jones. The Jones-Horsfall partnership had started to work really well for us and he'll be really hard to replace with the same quality; in fact I don't think we will. Watson is a very good player for L2 level but as you say he didn't massively stand out in that division before. His only real career goal spurt came under Brady, so perhaps we should look more to Brady's tactical nous for being able to get goals from a capable midfielder than to Watson being a regular goal threat?

Paul Lewis clearly has it in him to arrive late in the box and score goals - there was plenty in the club's new signing 'scout report'! Would like to think that Brady is intending on using him as a number 10 with an aerial threat to get on the end of Pinnock's crosses. Think we need a playmaker still but I'm sure one will be signed in the next month or so!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 10, 2021, 19:28:15 pm
Where did this data approach come from. I thought Foyle left because we went to that style. He has returned because now we have reverted to z scouting basis.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 19:29:37 pm
I do not believe so, they sign pre-contracts. So basically that contract just kicks in on 1st July, its now set in stone.

Interesting - any Lawyers on here who can comment! For a start there must be some mitigating circumstances?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 10, 2021, 19:41:43 pm
On the Div.2 forum Tranmere fan thought that  Lewis was more suited in a deep midfield role rather than an attacking midfield role. Yet another signing who has played for Macclesfield.
Let's hope he proves the comments on the Tranmere forum incorrect.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 10, 2021, 19:44:41 pm
Who knows??

NTFC lad that’s who….
The only poster on here with a hundred percent track record.

If you want info he’s the man to take notice of.
He’s the only poster with proper inside info and contacts.

Would it be possible to have a ntfc lad transfer thread that is separate from the other pages of wish lists and guesses just so we can cut to the chase…

i couldn’t agree more .
NTFCLad is the main man
his record is 100% folks




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on June 10, 2021, 19:58:17 pm
Someone said they don't care what opposition fans say about players?

I don't understand that. Generally fans are right about players in the main.

Yes there was the Ricky Holmes case but I struggle to think of many others where fans have said someone isn't very good and he's turned out to be good?

You poll 100 Cobblers fans their opinion on a player and the majority will be about right, of course you get the odd mentalist.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 10, 2021, 19:59:31 pm
Pretty much spot on here, but I would suggest that the data-based approach is very much still a planned idea at best. KT said already that they aren't looking into hiring a data analyst "yet" - because, you know, why would we rush something like this after a calamitous relegation with poor recruitment at the heart of the issues?

.... His only real career goal spurt came under Brady, so perhaps we should look more to Brady's tactical nous for being able to get goals from a capable midfielder than to Watson being a regular goal threat?


Good points. I have no idea whether these signings will be successful or not but what I was hoping for from KT's rhetoric was that the recruitment process as a whole would be improved.  If it's true that the club haven't found any sort of data analyst yet then it looks to me like that a lot of the talk of a change of process was hot air. From what I've seen all that's changed is a new Head of Recruitment (who we've employed before) and the odd bit of input from Graham Carr - hardly the revolution we were promised.

You make a good point that Watson's purple patch may well have been down to Brady's coaching and capacity to improve a player rather than innate ability. I would say that Brady also improved Horsfall, L. Jones and Marshall amongst others. (It's a shame we've lost Jones because I think unlike Watson he had the potential to develop into a saleable asset like Goode. Still, the improvement in Horsfall was dramatic and I think he could have a very good year in L2 with the right partner alongside him.)

Perhaps we should look on these new signings as 'rough diamonds' that Brady can shape and develop.  






Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 20:51:34 pm
Good points. I have no idea whether these signings will be successful or not but what I was hoping for from KT's rhetoric was that the recruitment process as a whole would be improved.  If it's true that the club haven't found any sort of data analyst yet then it looks to me like that a lot of the talk of a change of process was hot air. From what I've seen all that's changed is a new Head of Recruitment (who we've employed before) and the odd bit of input from Graham Carr - hardly the revolution we were promised.

You make a good point that Watson's purple patch may well have been down to Brady's coaching and capacity to improve a player rather than innate ability. I would say that Brady also improved Horsfall, L. Jones and Marshall amongst others. (It's a shame we've lost Jones because I think unlike Watson he had the potential to develop into a saleable asset like Goode. Still, the improvement in Horsfall was dramatic and I think he could have a very good year in L2 with the right partner alongside him.) Perhaps we should look on these new signings as 'rough diamonds' that Brady can shape and develop.

In the surprise signing of Lewis it appears that Richards and Calderwood may have had an input. To me a committee type signing is more practical and this (signing) might be an example as such.

 






Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 10, 2021, 21:04:50 pm
Interesting - any Lawyers on here who can comment! For a start there must be some mitigating circumstances?

No lawyers needed evers. Just believe it because it's correct.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 22:02:35 pm
Good points. I have no idea whether these signings will be successful or not but what I was hoping for from KT's rhetoric was that the recruitment process as a whole would be improved.  If it's true that the club haven't found any sort of data analyst yet then it looks to me like that a lot of the talk of a change of process was hot air. From what I've seen all that's changed is a new Head of Recruitment (who we've employed before) and the odd bit of input from Graham Carr - hardly the revolution we were promised.

You make a good point that Watson's purple patch may well have been down to Brady's coaching and capacity to improve a player rather than innate ability. I would say that Brady also improved Horsfall, L. Jones and Marshall amongst others. (It's a shame we've lost Jones because I think unlike Watson he had the potential to develop into a saleable asset like Goode. Still, the improvement in Horsfall was dramatic and I think he could have a very good year in L2 with the right partner alongside him.)

Perhaps we should look on these new signings as 'rough diamonds' that Brady can shape and develop.  





KT in bluff ,bluster and bûllshît, surly not!  data drive approach my arše.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 10, 2021, 22:14:25 pm
Honestly.
If you look at our championship winning team, we didn’t have any World Cup beaters!
Just the right players with the right mentality, that formed a formidable group. 
Most of which weren’t highly regarding by their previous clubs when signing.
They need to create the perfect blend and that can 100% be achieved by buying players who are yet to have shown their full potential.
Have faith in what they are doing, they certainly know a hell of a lot more than you lot!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 10, 2021, 22:27:24 pm
Honestly.
If you look at our championship winning team, we didn’t have any World Cup beaters!
Just the right players with the right mentality, that formed a formidable group. 
Most of which weren’t highly regarding by their previous clubs when signing.
They need to create the perfect blend and that can 100% be achieved by buying players who are yet to have shown their full potential.
Have faith in what they are doing, they certainly know a hell of a lot more than you lot!

Interesting comments - Holmes was the Gem who was our World Beater and proved it on several occasions for example, Luton and Stevenage. Other than that you are probably right. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 10, 2021, 22:48:43 pm
Honestly.
If you look at our championship winning team, we didn’t have any World Cup beaters!
Just the right players with the right mentality, that formed a formidable group. 
Most of which weren’t highly regarding by their previous clubs when signing.
They need to create the perfect blend and that can 100% be achieved by buying players who are yet to have shown their full potential.
Have faith in what they are doing, they certainly know a hell of a lot more than you lot!

I certainly don't disagree with this - whilst I am sceptical that these changes are anything more than a few extra voices inputting their opinions, I do have full faith in JB and the rest of the guys to bring in the right players for the system they want to play!

From the signings so far and from what JB has said about them, it seems we will play a high tempo style and get the ball into the box often from wide areas. These signings would surely all fit that style well. As you say, an effective yet individually unspectacular team where players fit their intended roles trumps a team of highly paid 'superstars' when there isn't a cogent plan - see Morecambe and Salford respectively this year! As it goes I personally think all 3 new lads look like good players - particularly Pinnock


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 10, 2021, 22:57:58 pm
Love the spin, we’ve lost our two best players and replaced them with very average ones by the fans of their old teams comments.
We need a marquee signing, preferably before the shît hits the fan 🤐


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 10, 2021, 23:05:03 pm
Whilst a data based approach is a significant tool, as with any decision making process it has its vulnerabilities and limitations. What if the players that score highly refuse to sign? Sometimes you are forced to revert to instinct or even worse taking a player who is halfway down the barrel. Not that I believe we would ever do that?

Like it or not it is often necessary to use a number of strategies to come to a decision including that good old professional instinct. Back to square one then.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 10, 2021, 23:10:14 pm
Just to summarise the last 24 hours and our resulting chit chatting:
1) Well done JB - you set a deadline and stuck to it
2) Welcome to our 2 new midfielders - give your all to NTFC, listen to JB and don’t read this forum!
3) We were never going to show our workings on the data based approach but let’s be clear, it was only ever going to be used to bring unknowns into consideration- our 3 recent signings were all known commodities - right or wrong, that’s the way it’ll work
4) Message to Cambridge fans - you’ve got a good one but he wasn’t always so , be careful!
5) Message to fans of wherever Watson ends up … no great loss. A very average midfielder who scored a few goals in a purple patch where our forwards went 100% AWOL.
6) Still think Mitch looks like Josh low so I’m very excited about that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 10, 2021, 23:52:20 pm
Love the spin, we’ve lost our two best players and replaced them with very average ones by the fans of their old teams comments.
We need a marquee signing, preferably before the shît hits the fan 🤐

Care to share a couple of names who would you might like to see sign who you would class as a marquee signing? Preferably no former players or players over the age of 31!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 11, 2021, 05:24:42 am
Honestly.
If you look at our championship winning team, we didn’t have any World Cup beaters!
Just the right players with the right mentality, that formed a formidable group....
Have faith in what they are doing, they certainly know a hell of a lot more than you lot!

Disagree. The Championship winning team had a core of quality players with pedigree and a proven-track record: JJOT (16 goals for Bristol Rovers; L1 experience), Rico (proven lower-league goal scorer), Moloney (L1 experience and had played for Forest), Nicky Adams (proven lower league assist king). Later we signed the likes of Collins and Martin on loan.

Recruitment quality matters. By KT’s own admission it wasn’t good enough last year and that’s why we went down. Saying ‘they know a lot more than us so let them get on with it’ is not very helpful. Did you ‘have faith’ in Curle’s recruitment last summer? How did that work out for you? As fans we have the right to scrutinise core processes such as recruitment as it has a massive impact on the quality of the product we pay for. It’s also important that they are held accountable for the promises they make.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on June 11, 2021, 06:20:12 am
Disagree. The Championship winning team had a core of quality players with pedigree and a proven-track record: JJOT (16 goals for Bristol Rovers; L1 experience), Rico (proven lower-league goal scorer), Moloney (L1 experience and had played for Forest), Nicky Adams (proven lower league assist king). Later we signed the likes of Collins and Martin on loan.

Recruitment quality matters. By KT’s own admission it wasn’t good enough last year and that’s why we went down. Saying ‘they know a lot more than us so let them get on with it’ is not very helpful. Did you ‘have faith’ in Curle’s recruitment last summer? How did that work out for you? As fans we have the right to scrutinise core processes such as recruitment as it has a massive impact on the quality of the product we pay for. It’s also important that they are held accountable for the promises they make.

I still think there's a lot of luck when it comes to recruitment at our level and budget. For example JJOT took a long time to come up with the goods. I suspect it's more that the recruitment was good in hindsight because the team did so well and an automatic response to blame recruitment policy when it  goes badly. It could be that the players brought in are potentially up to the task but it simply doesn't work out. You've got to spend decent money for guaranteed success and you can't say we've done that.
If you remember when the Cardozas first showed up they did splash the cash and it still took a while to lift ourselves out of the L2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 07:06:23 am
Care to share a couple of names who would you might like to see sign who you would class as a marquee signing? Preferably no former players or players over the age of 31!
Can’t promise not over 31, Neal Eardley released by Burton, Chucks Aneke released by Charlton or Kieran Agard released by MK Dongs.
They all will cost money so none will happen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 11, 2021, 08:07:10 am
Disagree. The Championship winning team had a core of quality players with pedigree and a proven-track record: JJOT (16 goals for Bristol Rovers; L1 experience), Rico (proven lower-league goal scorer), Moloney (L1 experience and had played for Forest), Nicky Adams (proven lower league assist king). Later we signed the likes of Collins and Martin on loan.

Recruitment quality matters. By KT’s own admission it wasn’t good enough last year and that’s why we went down. Saying ‘they know a lot more than us so let them get on with it’ is not very helpful. Did you ‘have faith’ in Curle’s recruitment last summer? How did that work out for you? As fans we have the right to scrutinise core processes such as recruitment as it has a massive impact on the quality of the product we pay for. It’s also important that they are held accountable for the promises they make.


Sorry at what point did I say recruitment isn’t crucial??
Last years completely different.  I never at any point had any confidence in Curle both on and off the pitch.
Sorry I don’t understand your point?
Just saying there are many players out there that haven’t fully reached their potential or have lost confidence over the years that we can pick up.
You don’t have to have heard of them before!
I’d like to think all players have some ability, they are professional footballers for god sake.
An element of luck you certainly need but the main thing is the players happiness at the club and the feeling of being settled, then you’ll get the best out of them and confidence comes with that.
Just stop the bloody moaning and let’s just get behind the team and the club with what they are doing!
I’m personally very excited and looking forward to the season ahead.
UTC!!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on June 11, 2021, 08:13:53 am
Remember that season when we signed those top quality players Van Veen, Crooks, Pierre, Turnbull, Bunney, Facey, Grimes and Long?

Oh and had a World famous manager too.

That was a memorable time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2021, 08:30:05 am
Disagree. The Championship winning team had a core of quality players with pedigree and a proven-track record: JJOT (16 goals for Bristol Rovers; L1 experience), Rico (proven lower-league goal scorer), Moloney (L1 experience and had played for Forest), Nicky Adams (proven lower league assist king). Later we signed the likes of Collins and Martin on loan.

Recruitment quality matters. By KT’s own admission it wasn’t good enough last year and that’s why we went down. Saying ‘they know a lot more than us so let them get on with it’ is not very helpful. Did you ‘have faith’ in Curle’s recruitment last summer? How did that work out for you? As fans we have the right to scrutinise core processes such as recruitment as it has a massive impact on the quality of the product we pay for. It’s also important that they are held accountable for the promises they make.

Another interesting post on recruitment. JJOT took a long time to bed down with CW seemingly despairing of him ? Rico by 2015 was very much in the twilight of his career. and Adams if truth be known was not always a first X1 team selection. Your comments on Curle's summer selection rings true; yes the fans should take an interest in selection policies but we have no right as you put it. After all we have a choice whether or not to watch the Cobblers; buyer beware. As for the dreaded word 'accountable' - you only have to look at the opinions on here on players/management et al as it ranges from the ridiculous to the sublime! However if you put a sizeable chunk of money into the Club say over £350,000 that might give you the right to question selection policies even playing style!  Opinions on here is the way to go?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 11, 2021, 08:32:21 am
It's all a f***ing gamble at this level. We'll see 5 weeks into the season how the team is, might be great, might be awful, might be mediocore. Until then the speculation is almost as wrong as it is right.

Hailed as good signings last year: Joseph Mills, Luke Racic, Cian Bolger, Benny Ashley-Seal
Met with  ??? : Missilou, Horsfall, Ricky Korboa
Met with drab enthusiasm : Loyd Jones, Nuttall

So, basically no correlation whatsoever between what we thought of the signings and how they got on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 08:33:24 am
Remember that season when we signed those top quality players Van Veen, Crooks, Pierre, Turnbull, Bunney, Facey, Grimes and Long?

Oh and had a World famous manager too.

That was a memorable time.
Yeah we were in L1, imagine if we hadn’t invested we would have been relegated by Christmas.
Not to mention we changed managers etc.
Are you seriously suggesting signing quality players doesn’t work?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 08:34:37 am
It's all a **** **** at this level. We'll see 5 weeks into the season how the team is, might be great, might be awful, might be mediocore. Until then the speculation is almost as wrong as it is right.

Hailed as good signings last year: Joseph Mills, Luke Racic, Cian Bolger, Benny Ashley-Seal
Met with  ??? : Missilou, Horsfall, Ricky Korboa
Met with drab enthusiasm : Loyd Jones, Nuttall

So, basically no correlation whatsoever between what we thought of the signings and how they got on.
Benney is the pick of the crop.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 11, 2021, 09:35:10 am
Can’t promise not over 31, Neal Eardley released by Burton, Chucks Aneke released by Charlton or Kieran Agard released by MK Dongs.
They all will cost money so none will happen.

Neal Eardley is 32, and last season couldn't get into the Burton team so went out on loan to Barrow in L2 where he managed only 4 appearances. That wouldn't even be a good signing let alone a marquee signing! Would cost nothing so you're talking rubbish.

Kieran Agard didn't play a single minute in the league for MK Dons last season. He only managed 2 goals in 19 games the year before that. Why on earth would we want him? Would cost nothing so you're talking rubbish again.

Chuks Aneke I agree would be a marquee signing. He's also a star player for a L1 team that will be top half next season and he is wanted by Coventry, amongst others, in the Championship. There is zero chance of him signing for us at this moment in time.

I'm sorry but these are poor suggestions and show that you shouldn't be writing the new signings off already; they're far more considered then the suggestions you've offered there. Have a bit of faith!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 11, 2021, 09:46:37 am
It's all a **** **** at this level. We'll see 5 weeks into the season how the team is, might be great, might be awful, might be mediocore. Until then the speculation is almost as wrong as it is right.

Hailed as good signings last year: Joseph Mills, Luke Racic, Cian Bolger, Benny Ashley-Seal
Met with  ??? : Missilou, Horsfall, Ricky Korboa
Met with drab enthusiasm : Loyd Jones, Nuttall

So, basically no correlation whatsoever between what we thought of the signings and how they got on.

Exactly. At our level (especially league 2) with let's say a 'competitive' budget, it's a pure lottery. The majority of any names signed by us are going to be unknown to the majority of us, unless you are some lower league player specialist. Sure, sign a striker with 3 goals in 100 games and it gives you a decent insight. Most players however have mixed form and polarize opinion, we have more than enough first hand experience of that. Any show reel makes a player look like Messi, others that leave with scathing reviews become your talisman. We're never going to be dealing in the well known names around the Prem and Championship, or players on that trajectory. I think that is why we gravitate to some ex-players so much, because we know them. Lewis could become the new JJOT.

Ultimately we will have very little idea until a ball is kicked in anger and they have a few competitive league games to see what we are in for.
I'm just pleased it will be a different squad to the crap endured last season. Enough of the old crap, let's have some new crap!  ;D

 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 11, 2021, 09:49:29 am
Wether you like it or not the qua;ity will probably come from loans.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 09:59:57 am
Neal Eardley is 32, and last season couldn't get into the Burton team so went out on loan to Barrow in L2 where he managed only 4 appearances. That wouldn't even be a good signing let alone a marquee signing! Would cost nothing so you're talking rubbish.

Kieran Agard didn't play a single minute in the league for MK Dons last season. He only managed 2 goals in 19 games the year before that. Why on earth would we want him? Would cost nothing so you're talking rubbish again.

Chuks Aneke I agree would be a marquee signing. He's also a star player for a L1 team that will be top half next season and he is wanted by Coventry, amongst others, in the Championship. There is zero chance of him signing for us at this moment in time.

I'm sorry but these are poor suggestions and show that you shouldn't be writing the new signings off already; they're far more considered then the suggestions you've offered there. Have a bit of faith!
Neal Eardley would be an excellent signing FFS have you seen what we are currently signing 😂 he was outstanding at Lincoln and would add the experience we need. As for Agard he’s scored 40 goals in 108 appearances for MK dons?
I have no clue who you think we will sign but if you think they will be better than what I suggested your the one talking rubbish pal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2021, 10:02:59 am
Wether you like it or not the qua;ity will probably come from loans.

Almost certainly - unless KT loosens the purse strings.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 10:03:05 am
Wether you like it or not the qua;ity will probably come from loans.
Agreed very debatable how well loans work, it’s a pûnt in terms of attitude.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 11, 2021, 10:09:31 am
Neal Eardley would be an excellent signing FFS have you seen what we are currently signing 😂 he was outstanding at Lincoln and would add the experience we need. As for Agard he’s scored 40 goals in 108 appearances for MK dons?
I have no clue who you think we will sign but if you think they will be better than what I suggested your the one talking rubbish pal.
Point is...... you HAVEN’T seen what we’ve currently signed, have you?
Have you read any previous message, pretty much saying the same thing.
You’re judging players you know absolutely nothing about,
Give them a bloody chance, Jesus!!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 11, 2021, 10:10:44 am
Neal Eardley would be an excellent signing FFS have you seen what we are currently signing 😂 he was outstanding at Lincoln and would add the experience we need. As for Agard he’s scored 40 goals in 108 appearances for MK dons?
I have no clue who you think we will sign but if you think they will be better than what I suggested your the one talking rubbish pal.

Can you read? Agard has 2 goals in the last 2 seasons! Eardley might have been an excellent signing 5 years ago, certainly not now - he couldn't hold down a starting place for either Burton or Barrow last year. If you think that we could sign Aneke in L2 when there is Championship interest then you are plain wrong.

I'm glad you're not in charge because you talk absolute garbage! One of the players I suggested about a week ago was Pinnock, and low and behold he has signed for us since then. So yes I think I'm closer to realism on this than you are.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 10:19:19 am
Can you read? Agard has 2 goals in the last 2 seasons! Eardley might have been an excellent signing 5 years ago, certainly not now - he couldn't hold down a starting place for either Burton or Barrow last year. If you think that we could sign Aneke in L2 when there is Championship interest then you are plain wrong.

I'm glad you're not in charge because you talk absolute garbage! One of the players I suggested about a week ago was Pinnock, and low and behold he has signed for us since then. So yes I think I'm closer to realism on this than you are.
There’s no need to be rude, you wouldn’t dare say it to my face so please refrain from acting hard on a forum.
Let’s just agree to disagree, I have no wish to argue with fellow supporters.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 11, 2021, 10:29:01 am
There’s no need to be rude, you wouldn’t dare say it to my face so please refrain from acting hard on a forum.
Let’s just agree to disagree, I have no wish to argue with fellow supporters.

I wasn't being rude, and given that you're trying to intimidate me now it's clearly you who is trying to 'act hard'.
Happy to agree to disagree.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 11, 2021, 10:30:05 am
I'm in the 'it's a lottery' camp.
Sure you can assess their physical characteristics and fitness history, but in terms of playing ability they will all be much of a muchness at this level...players that aspired to higher levels and for whatever reason have found themselves at league 2 level. Good management, tactics (being played in their best position) will be as big a factor as anything.
Then you have the youngsters like Benny Seal with no history who you have to take a total punt on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 10:30:31 am
I wasn't being rude, and given that you're trying to intimidate me now it's clearly you who is trying to 'act hard'.
Happy to agree to disagree.
Good there’s not enough Cobblers as it is without them falling out with each other over nothing 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 11, 2021, 10:47:23 am
I must have missed the interview where it mentioned we were taking a more data lead approach. I enjoy looking at the data occasionally so had a look at some extremely basic criteria to see where Lewis featured against his peers last season. There were 72 players that played more than 2000 minutes in CDM/CM/. All the stats I look at are pro rata'd to per 90 minutes.

There are a ton of things that come into it such as style of play etc, but these are just the raw numbers as may be of some interest to someone.

Lewis played in a variety of positions last season. 548 mins at CAM, ST for 238, and 2545 in CM/CDM. 5 of his 6 league goals actually came from when he was playing in CM which is interesting so that is why I am comparing him to other CM's as thats where he logged is most minutes.

Of those the ones where Lewis features very highly is Aerial duels he featured in the 4th most of those players at 8.95 a game (average of 4.3).His win percentage was 47.08% which is about 3% better than average.

His XG (expected goals I know is hated by some) was 6th in the league from CM at 0.22 per game (average was 0.08).

Other main positive, touches of the ball in the box he ranked 5th of the CM's in L2 last season.

So a midfielder who is aerially combative and has the ability to chip in with the odd goal. His passing stats are very low in terms of volumes so does not seen to particularly dictate play, especially in a Tranmere side that had a lot of the ball. He attempted very low numbers and the average length of those passes was the lowest of the sample size.

Would rather see him at CM I think and arrive late than play further forward ALA where we put Watson last season. Unlikely to create a large amount judging from his figures, not exactly expansive in his passing. But at this level I dont think that is an issue, get the ball to our creative players and get in the box!

We know Sean is fantastic at this level at interceptions, tackles etc which will hopefully allow Lewis to get forward where he seems to be good at coming into the box, bodies in the box is something we never seemed to do well at last season so I see the benefit.

So does he jump off the page as a marquee signing, not really. Could he be a solid player that could get us 6-8 goals from midfield, yes. With so many more additions to come seems fine to me, no reason to meltdown at the very least!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 11, 2021, 10:56:48 am
I must have missed the interview where it mentioned we were taking a more data lead approach. I enjoy looking at the data occasionally so had a look at some extremely basic criteria to see where Lewis featured against his peers last season. There were 72 players that played more than 2000 minutes in CDM/CM/. All the stats I look at are pro rata'd to per 90 minutes.

There are a ton of things that come into it such as style of play etc, but these are just the raw numbers as may be of some interest to someone.

Lewis played in a variety of positions last season. 548 mins at CAM, ST for 238, and 2545 in CM/CDM. 5 of his 6 league goals actually came from when he was playing in CM which is interesting so that is why I am comparing him to other CM's as thats where he logged is most minutes.

Of those the ones where Lewis features very highly is Aerial duels he featured in the 4th most of those players at 8.95 a game (average of 4.3).His win percentage was 47.08% which is about 3% better than average.

His XG (expected goals I know is hated by some) was 6th in the league from CM at 0.22 per game (average was 0.08).

Other main positive, touches of the ball in the box he ranked 5th of the CM's in L2 last season.

So a midfielder who is aerially combative and has the ability to chip in with the odd goal. His passing stats are very low in terms of volumes so does not seen to particularly dictate play, especially in a Tranmere side that had a lot of the ball. He attempted very low numbers and the average length of those passes was the lowest of the sample size.

Would rather see him at CM I think and arrive late than play further forward ALA where we put Watson last season. Unlikely to create a large amount judging from his figures, not exactly expansive in his passing. But at this level I dont think that is an issue, get the ball to our creative players and get in the box!

We know Sean is fantastic at this level at interceptions, tackles etc which will hopefully allow Lewis to get forward where he seems to be good at coming into the box, bodies in the box is something we never seemed to do well at last season so I see the benefit.

So does he jump off the page as a marquee signing, not really. Could he be a solid player that could get us 6-8 goals from midfield, yes. With so many more additions to come seems fine to me, no reason to meltdown at the very least!

Very good post! Don't suppose you fancy doing the same for Kabamba and Pinnock too do you?   ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 11, 2021, 10:59:32 am
Good there’s not enough Cobblers as it is without them falling out with each other over nothing 👍

That is sadly true, no hard feelings! 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on June 11, 2021, 11:22:29 am
Yeah we were in L1, imagine if we hadn’t invested we would have been relegated by Christmas.
Not to mention we changed managers etc.
Are you seriously suggesting signing quality players doesn’t work?

We were relegated with those players, we started the following season with Facey, Pierre, Turnbull, Van Veen and Crooks and finished 15th.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 11, 2021, 11:30:13 am
Very good post! Don't suppose you fancy doing the same for Kabamba and Pinnock too do you?   ;)

Thanks, glad someone found it interesting, a lot of people hate numbers haha. Happy to do so, but there will likely be a big disparity in the figures as players for Celtic / Rangers and the other bigger sides will likely dominate, still it will be interesting to look!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 12:12:53 pm
Thanks, glad someone found it interesting, a lot of people hate numbers haha. Happy to do so, but there will likely be a big disparity in the figures as players for Celtic / Rangers and the other bigger sides will likely dominate, still it will be interesting to look!
Very interesting mate, perhaps you should ring the club and offer yourself as a data analysis expert.
In business you would never invest without looking at the numbers so why be any different in football.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 11, 2021, 12:14:37 pm
The 3 new signings are all over 6ft tall, are we going back to adopting KC's aerial attack tactics?
Eardley was very good when we had him on loan and that would have been the time to sign him. However, we had 2 right backs ( Moloney and Phillips) who were both out injured so it was not going to happen. His best days are behind him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 11, 2021, 12:17:11 pm
I wasn't being rude, and given that you're trying to intimidate me now it's clearly you who is trying to 'act hard'.
Happy to agree to disagree.

You said he couldn't read ;D.  Its all about opinions, hard I know.  Good to see you both came to an amicable agreement. But one thing we all agree on we need a few quality signings  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 11, 2021, 12:33:55 pm
The 3 new signings are all over 6ft tall,

Flying keepers?  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 11, 2021, 12:38:48 pm
The 3 new signings are all over 6ft tall, are we going back to adopting KC's aerial attack tactics?
Eardley was very good when we had him on loan and that would have been the time to sign him. However, we had 2 right backs ( Moloney and Phillips) who were both out injured so it was not going to happen. His best days are behind him.

Eardley wasn't on loan. Rob Page signed him in January 2017 until the end of that season. He wasn't offered a new contract and signed for Lincoln City where he impressed with his assists.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 11, 2021, 13:04:47 pm
I must have missed the interview where it mentioned we were taking a more data lead approach. I enjoy looking at the data occasionally so had a look at some extremely basic criteria to see where Lewis featured against his peers last season. There were 72 players that played more than 2000 minutes in CDM/CM/. All the stats I look at are pro rata'd to per 90 minutes.

There are a ton of things that come into it such as style of play etc, but these are just the raw numbers as may be of some interest to someone.

Lewis played in a variety of positions last season. 548 mins at CAM, ST for 238, and 2545 in CM/CDM. 5 of his 6 league goals actually came from when he was playing in CM which is interesting so that is why I am comparing him to other CM's as thats where he logged is most minutes.

Of those the ones where Lewis features very highly is Aerial duels he featured in the 4th most of those players at 8.95 a game (average of 4.3).His win percentage was 47.08% which is about 3% better than average.

His XG (expected goals I know is hated by some) was 6th in the league from CM at 0.22 per game (average was 0.08).

Other main positive, touches of the ball in the box he ranked 5th of the CM's in L2 last season.

So a midfielder who is aerially combative and has the ability to chip in with the odd goal. His passing stats are very low in terms of volumes so does not seen to particularly dictate play, especially in a Tranmere side that had a lot of the ball. He attempted very low numbers and the average length of those passes was the lowest of the sample size.

Would rather see him at CM I think and arrive late than play further forward ALA where we put Watson last season. Unlikely to create a large amount judging from his figures, not exactly expansive in his passing. But at this level I dont think that is an issue, get the ball to our creative players and get in the box!

We know Sean is fantastic at this level at interceptions, tackles etc which will hopefully allow Lewis to get forward where he seems to be good at coming into the box, bodies in the box is something we never seemed to do well at last season so I see the benefit.

So does he jump off the page as a marquee signing, not really. Could he be a solid player that could get us 6-8 goals from midfield, yes. With so many more additions to come seems fine to me, no reason to meltdown at the very least!

Great post. Keep them coming, and agree, does not look like a bad signing


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 11, 2021, 13:40:08 pm
It's all a **** **** at this level. We'll see 5 weeks into the season how the team is, might be great, might be awful, might be mediocore. Until then the speculation is almost as wrong as it is right.

Hailed as good signings last year: Joseph Mills, Luke Racic, Cian Bolger, Benny Ashley-Seal
Met with  ??? : Missilou, Horsfall, Ricky Korboa
Met with drab enthusiasm : Loyd Jones, Nuttall

So, basically no correlation whatsoever between what we thought of the signings and how they got on.

Rose & Sowerby we’re both hailed by many as good signings too last year but ended up being poor.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 11, 2021, 15:06:14 pm
Just an observation but was I the only one who wasn’t overly impressed with Rico first time around? I seem to remember him scoring 4 in a game but other than that I thought he was a bit average. Different story the second time he turned up. Anyway, the point is some of these more mature players do seem to get better with age.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on June 11, 2021, 15:11:34 pm
We were in for Agard last summer, if my memory is correct he failed the medical.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 11, 2021, 15:31:24 pm
Cornell leaves Ipswich by mutual consent. Altogether now, "He's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Cornell's coming home!"


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 11, 2021, 16:29:25 pm
Cornell leaves Ipswich by mutual consent. Altogether now, "He's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Cornell's coming home!"

This article suggests he is attracting Championship interest.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/cornell-leaves-town-by-mutual-consent-8052670


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 11, 2021, 16:58:10 pm
This article suggests he is attracting Championship interest.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/cornell-leaves-town-by-mutual-consent-8052670

He’s got the hardest working agent in football


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 11, 2021, 17:07:57 pm
He’s got the hardest working agent in football

My least favorite cobblers player in the 28 years I have supported them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 11, 2021, 17:14:16 pm
We were in for Agard last summer, if my memory is correct he failed the medical.

And he missed MK's pre-season with a knee injury which then kept him out for a few months. Fell out of favour with new MK manager Russel Martin and never made it back into the team save for a Pizza Cup match against Norwich U-21's which he played in and scored twice. That's his only game since January 2020.

375 appearances and 106 goals is a ratio not to be sniffed at....i'm sure someone will give him a chance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 11, 2021, 17:56:56 pm
Remember that season when we signed those top quality players Van Veen, Crooks, Pierre, Grimes and Long?

That was a memorable time.

The problem with that squad was no-one bothered to do due diligence on their character (another classic recruitment trap which we have occasionally fallen into). That squad was the exact inverse of last year's squad: lots of talent but no fight or work-rate. There was a massive imbalance which could have been corrected with the addition of some genuine leaders. If we'd had an Alan McCormack type alongside Crooks and Grimes and a Rico type to keep Van Ego in check then we might have made the play-offs with that group.

Great post by lordjord - give him the job as data analyst. Looks like we'll be alright with Lewis as long as we don't expect him to be a playmaker/assist maker type. Can Sowerby play that role at L2 level? We will see.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 11, 2021, 18:17:53 pm
He’s got the hardest working agent in football

Harsh...pretty confident we would have survived if he was between the sticks last season. Saying that we would have if my Gran played....and she died in 1986.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 11, 2021, 18:49:57 pm
Damn, we have failed to keep last seasons strike force intact. Ryan Edmondson has gone on a season long loan to Fleetwood.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 11, 2021, 19:04:22 pm
Of those the ones where Lewis features very highly is Aerial duels he featured in the 4th most of those players at 8.95 a game (average of 4.3).His win percentage was 47.08% which is about 3% better than average.
Someone explain please... If he only won 47.08% of his aerial contests thats less than half, so how can that be good, and how can that be 3% percent better than average?
Is there more than just 'won' and 'lost' when it comes to aerial challenges?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 11, 2021, 19:43:46 pm
Someone explain please... If he only won 47.08% of his aerial contests thats less than half, so how can that be good, and how can that be 3% percent better than average?
Is there more than just 'won' and 'lost' when it comes to aerial challenges?

Just maths and weighting. Assume there are a few players in the 60%+ with the average less than 50%.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 11, 2021, 19:44:09 pm
Someone explain please... If he only won 47.08% of his aerial contests thats less than half, so how can that be good, and how can that be 3% percent better than average?
Is there more than just 'won' and 'lost' when it comes to aerial challenges?
Because the average of headers won by an individual player in L2 is 44%, so he wins slightly more, the Ariel duals are with numerous opponents hence 44% being the mean average.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on June 11, 2021, 19:47:32 pm
Someone explain please... If he only won 47.08% of his aerial contests thats less than half, so how can that be good, and how can that be 3% percent better than average?
Is there more than just 'won' and 'lost' when it comes to aerial challenges?

I think lj means for CMs... bear in mind they're aerials against CBs, WBs, etc. So the average for CMs could be 44% won but Lewis won 47% of his duels


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on June 11, 2021, 19:53:27 pm
Yeah but 41% of the headers have been wide and 17% of the players who have achieved over 52% of the second balls had honey nut clusters for brekky.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 11, 2021, 20:21:12 pm
I think lj means for CMs... bear in mind they're aerials against CBs, WBs, etc. So the average for CMs could be 44% won but Lewis won 47% of his duels

Nicely summarised  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 11, 2021, 20:30:58 pm
I get the mean median mode bit, and the categorizing of players into midfielders, defenders, strikers etc, but he still wins less than half of his contested headers (if the data is correct). For every central defender he challenges he might also challenge a pip squeak fullback or a Daniel Powell?
And if he wins less than he loses then should he be challenging for it in the first place?
If I was winning less than i was losing when there's only two outcomes (against players in the same league), I wouldnt want any bragging about how good I was no matter who I was contesting it with.
But I get the theory, thanks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: claretparrot on June 11, 2021, 21:09:18 pm
I get the mean median mode bit, and the categorizing of players into midfielders, defenders, strikers etc, but he still wins less than half of his contested headers (if the data is correct). For every central defender he challenges he might also challenge a pip squeak fullback or a Daniel Powell?
And if he wins less than he loses then should he be challenging for it in the first place?
If I was winning less than i was losing when there's only two outcomes (against players in the same league), I wouldnt want any bragging about how good I was no matter who I was contesting it with.
But I get the theory, thanks.

Look at it this way. If every player was the same height and just as good at winning headers, you'd expect them all to win 50%.

Assume the average CM is less skilled at winning headers than the average defender and the average striker, and you start to see how 47% could be quite good.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 11, 2021, 21:28:09 pm
Look at it this way. If every player was the same height and just as good at winning headers, you'd expect them all to win 50%.

Assume the average CM is less skilled at winning headers than the average defender and the average striker, and you start to see how 47% could be quite good.
Yeah but only s*** players head balls...decent ones kick them!
So 47%...hmmm, over to CJ!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 12, 2021, 08:26:58 am
Defender next - I PRESUME


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 12, 2021, 08:31:25 am
Defender next - I PRESUME
Or a Keeper 😉


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2021, 08:59:08 am
My least favorite cobblers player in the 28 years I have supported them.

Astonishing comment when if he had stayed it might have gained us 3/4 points (includes MK game). Would not be too surprised if JB resigned him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2021, 09:15:10 am
Look at it this way. If every player was the same height and just as good at winning headers, you'd expect them all to win 50%.

Assume the average CM is less skilled at winning headers than the average defender and the average striker, and you start to see how 47% could be quite good.

I think CP is right or at the very least convincing in his interpretation of LJ figures. At a guess you might have missed the point which is comparing Lewis % of headers against defenders. Another thing what LJ figures suggest is that Lewis is brave and determined in midfield? If that is the case it might justify JB’s enthusiasm in getting Lewis on board. Right character and all that!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 12, 2021, 09:18:29 am
I get the mean median mode bit, and the categorizing of players into midfielders, defenders, strikers etc, but he still wins less than half of his contested headers (if the data is correct). For every central defender he challenges he might also challenge a pip squeak fullback or a Daniel Powell?
And if he wins less than he loses then should he be challenging for it in the first place?
If I was winning less than i was losing when there's only two outcomes (against players in the same league), I wouldnt want any bragging about how good I was no matter who I was contesting it with.
But I get the theory, thanks.

I think you would be surprised at how dominant the CB's are in comparison (especially in L2), plenty in the 60+/70+. Think of the other CM's we have has in the past, a number are quite small in stature and dont really attempt to win the ball, just try and jump and use their body to put off the opponent.. If they managed to win 50% in the air I would be delighted, they cant bail out of it because they are unlikely to win it. But as the numbers go up you are involved in its obviously more impressive to maintain a better win rate.

Understand it does not seem like a positive at all though, context is always important which I did not really add. Just checked Daniel Powell also, challenged for just over 2 a game and barely won 20%, guess that's why he's a winger and not a forward!

Its also true though that data can be construed in a number of ways, he could turn out to be awful haha. As I say I am not expecting world beater, but solid squad option who can get us the odd goal, yes. But the proof will be in the pudding, no better way to find out than watching him in the flesh!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2021, 09:26:45 am
I think you would be surprised at how dominant the CB's are in comparison (especially in L2), plenty in the 60+/70+. Think of the other CM's we have on our books, McWilliams, Pollock, Sowerby. If they managed to win 50% in the air I would be delighted, they cant bail out of it because they are unlikely to win it. But as the numbers go up you are involved in its obviously more impressive to maintain a better win rate.

Understand it does not seem like a positive at all though, context is always important which I did not really add. Just checked Daniel Powell also, challenged for just over 2 a game and barely won 20%, guess that's why he's a winger and not a forward!

Which is a good example of a player lacking the determination to win (any) header. Some on here criticised Powell that for a player with an imposing physique he lacked determination.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 12, 2021, 09:35:18 am
He’s got the hardest working agent in football

Heard whispers on Innis of Charlton signing.  Fee involved. Any comment?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 12, 2021, 09:41:19 am
You'd have to think that a lot of the time midfielders are challenging for aerial balls that they want to flick on or where it's coming over their heads. Defenders are generally just heading balls away that are coming straight at them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 12, 2021, 10:39:57 am
Or a Keeper 😉
I Presume was a clue.... that’s the annoying thing to do on this thread


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 12, 2021, 10:59:33 am
Heard whispers on Innis of Charlton signing.  Fee involved. Any comment?
I remember watching him when we played Charlton and feeling gutted that we'd lost out of him. Not sure why'd they let him go, other than he seems to be coming out of a long term injury.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 12, 2021, 13:06:15 pm
I think you would be surprised at how dominant the CB's are in comparison (especially in L2), plenty in the 60+/70+. Think of the other CM's we have has in the past, a number are quite small in stature and dont really attempt to win the ball, just try and jump and use their body to put off the opponent.. If they managed to win 50% in the air I would be delighted, they cant bail out of it because they are unlikely to win it. But as the numbers go up you are involved in its obviously more impressive to maintain a better win rate.

Understand it does not seem like a positive at all though, context is always important which I did not really add. Just checked Daniel Powell also, challenged for just over 2 a game and barely won 20%, guess that's why he's a winger and not a forward!

Its also true though that data can be construed in a number of ways, he could turn out to be awful haha. As I say I am not expecting world beater, but solid squad option who can get us the odd goal, yes. But the proof will be in the pudding, no better way to find out than watching him in the flesh!
So I suppose in the case of central midfielders, if you could isolate those duels contested only against another CM, you should arrive at a more convincing stat for how effective they actually are in comparison to each other.
Might provide someone with a job?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 12, 2021, 13:11:29 pm
So I suppose in the case of central midfielders, if you could isolate those duels contested only against another CM, you should arrive at a more convincing stat for how effective they actually are in comparison to each other.
Might provide someone with a job?

Absolutely! I imagine their is a data source out there somewhere. But I have neither the time nor do I care enough to do so haha.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 12, 2021, 17:13:47 pm
Absolutely! I imagine their is a data source out there somewhere. But I have neither the time nor do I care enough to do so haha.
Marouane Felaine was quite good in the air, wonder what his stats looked like?
Any chance our guy is our league two equivalent?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 12, 2021, 17:33:04 pm
Marouane Felaine was quite good in the air, wonder what his stats looked like?
Any chance our guy is our league two equivalent?!

I think its safe to say he is not the league two equivalent haha ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 12, 2021, 17:58:51 pm
Who gives a fukc about stats? I had a decade of filling in time sheets, being followed around by time and motion men, and having my wages cut.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 12, 2021, 18:12:00 pm
Who gives a fukc about stats? I had a decade of filling in time sheets, being followed around by time and motion men, and having my wages cut.


Apparently the time and motion people did!  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 12, 2021, 19:43:03 pm
Astonishing comment when if he had stayed it might have gained us 3/4 points (includes MK game). Would not be too surprised if JB resigned him.
Astonishing, given the number of shockers we've had between the sticks over the years...never mind outfield duds...oh and more recently, a certain Mr Mitchell!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 12, 2021, 19:46:22 pm
Marouane Felaine was quite good in the air, wonder what his stats hair looked like?
Any chance our guy is our league two equivalent?!
:afro


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 12, 2021, 22:56:49 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/edmondson-back-in-league-one-as-leeds-striker-heads-north-after-cobblers-spell-3270873

Well one things for certain …. Fleetwood don’t operate a data driven recruitment system. If they do they’ve got their Excel spread sheet upside down!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 13, 2021, 06:35:13 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/edmondson-back-in-league-one-as-leeds-striker-heads-north-after-cobblers-spell-3270873

Well one things for certain …. Fleetwood don’t operate a data driven recruitment system. If they do they’ve got their Excel spread sheet upside down!!

We'll see. Probably score lots of goals for them. I've previously stated that I think he will go on to be goalscorer, so will be watching his progress with interest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 13, 2021, 06:39:35 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/edmondson-back-in-league-one-as-leeds-striker-heads-north-after-cobblers-spell-3270873

Well one things for certain …. Fleetwood don’t operate a data driven recruitment system. If they do they’ve got their Excel spread sheet upside down!!

I feel there is a good a chance he will come good at some stage but last season was definitely a case of the wrong person at the wrong time. In a struggling side that didn’t create much persevering with Edmondson pretty much finished us off, I’m sure he benefited with the experience but he was never going to come good.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 13, 2021, 18:49:01 pm
I feel there is a good a chance he will come good at some stage but last season was definitely a case of the wrong person at the wrong time. In a struggling side that didn’t create much persevering with Edmondson pretty much finished us off, I’m sure he benefited with the experience but he was never going to come good.

To put it bluntly he was absolutely awful.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 13, 2021, 19:28:11 pm
Luke Chambers signs for Col U. Wonder if we were in for him?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 14, 2021, 00:20:59 am
To put it bluntly he was absolutely awful.
I feel he has potential. The bottom line though is that at present he is proven to not score goals at that level. If we were Fleetwood supporters we would be going bonkers following his record last season. It’s make or break for him next season, so professionally the pressure will be on. Let’s not forget he is a young kid so I hope he makes it, especially as they are not in our division.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 14, 2021, 06:51:17 am
To put it bluntly he was absolutely awful.
Where does that leave BAS?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 14, 2021, 08:43:24 am
Luke Chambers signs for Col U. Wonder if we were in for him?
no , but news should come clear on this position for all the folk worrying


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 14, 2021, 10:37:31 am
Jon Guthrie - defender from Livingstone I PRESUME


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on June 14, 2021, 10:42:10 am
Jon Guthrie - defender from Livingstone I PRESUME

Did we not have him on trial once? when we went to spain.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 14, 2021, 11:35:45 am
Did we not have him on trial once? when we went to spain.

Currently on transfer list.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 14, 2021, 12:06:53 pm
Currently on transfer list.

At his request due to "family reasons"

He had a two year contract with a further year option, that option was exercised but now it seems he wants to return to England.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 14, 2021, 12:19:50 pm
Where has the Guthrie rumour surfaced from?

Seen on twitter from a reasonably reliable account that we are interested in Jordy Hiwula from Portsmouth


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 14, 2021, 13:34:00 pm
Where has the Guthrie rumour surfaced from?

Seen on twitter from a reasonably reliable account that we are interested in Jordy Hiwula from Portsmouth


Clarity always a top source of information! Bit surprised this rumour missed your attention 😎


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 14, 2021, 14:17:02 pm


Clarity always a top source of information! Bit surprised this rumour missed your attention 😎

Yes, I saw Clarity had posted it. I wanted to know where it had come from originally?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 15, 2021, 09:45:29 am
Where has the Guthrie rumour surfaced from?

Seen on twitter from a reasonably reliable account that we are interested in Jordy Hiwula from Portsmouth
Hiwula, like Inniss, was someone we were interested in previously, so I don't know if this was just regurgitation of rumours from last year.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 15, 2021, 10:38:37 am
Hiwula, like Inniss, was someone we were interested in previously, so I don't know if this was just regurgitation of rumours from last year.
Not the case...also heard we're possibly interested in a right back from Bristol Rovers. No BS just a good source


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 15, 2021, 11:10:03 am
Not the case...also heard we're possibly interested in a right back from Bristol Rovers. No BS just a good source
Would that be the LITTLE and large show?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 15, 2021, 11:24:55 am
Would that be the LITTLE and large show?
That's as much as i know... however, you could well be on to something, his contract expires at the end  of June


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 15, 2021, 11:45:00 am
I’ve heard we’re quite far on with talks with a few targets, I don’t have any names currently


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2021, 12:05:40 pm
Would that be the LITTLE and large show?

Not sure if Little fits in JB scheme of things....he is 32yrs. Not old but probably after a 2/3 yr contract ...too much IMO.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 15, 2021, 13:53:19 pm
That's as much as i know... however, you could well be on to something, his contract expires at the end  of June
I'd imagine that would be Tutonda, who we will also linked with last year then?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 15, 2021, 14:00:23 pm
Potentially one may be in today


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 15, 2021, 14:01:26 pm
Potentially one may be in today
Incoming


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 15, 2021, 14:02:46 pm
A well travelled route


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 15, 2021, 14:04:51 pm
A well travelled route
Give him the 66 shirt


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 15, 2021, 14:16:04 pm
A well travelled route

Surely down from Scotland then...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 15, 2021, 14:22:10 pm
3:30 announcement, so not long to wait.

Hoping for a CB or a GK!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 15, 2021, 14:24:29 pm
3:30 announcement, so not long to wait.

Hoping for a CB or a GK!

The answer is on this very page


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 15, 2021, 14:26:57 pm
The answer is on this very page

Ah.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 15, 2021, 14:29:16 pm
Ah.  ;D

Well where he’s coming from is anyway, but he’s not a GK or CB


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 15, 2021, 14:31:57 pm
Well where he’s coming from is anyway, but he’s not a GK or CB

Yeah, gathered that now it has been announced.

Another winger on the books!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on June 15, 2021, 14:32:59 pm
I for one am glad our new recruitment panel are casting their net far and wide.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 15, 2021, 14:34:42 pm
Do they think that we play in Corby?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 15, 2021, 14:35:18 pm
Connolly is fast as f*ck!

Very clear that we are signing a team of strong athletes this summer


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 15, 2021, 14:42:53 pm
Connolly is fast as f*ck!

Very clear that we are signing a team of strong athletes this summer

I've just watched the scout report - he flies along, doesn't he?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 15, 2021, 14:44:45 pm
Looks like Brady has put pace at the top of his priorities/shopping list this summer

Connolly might be the fastest of the lot. From a squad who so clearly lacked it going into last season under Curle, this is a little more refreshing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 15, 2021, 14:49:12 pm
I for one am glad our new recruitment panel are casting their net far and wide.
Yes, Kilmarnock, Paisley, Kilmarnock...
Incoming from Greenock Morton next!  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on June 15, 2021, 14:51:08 pm
Yes, Kilmarnock, Paisley, Kilmarnock...
Incoming from Greenock Morton next!  ;)

😀


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 15, 2021, 14:52:00 pm
Proper left & right wingers now...ooooohhh, I do love a winger!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 15, 2021, 14:52:16 pm
I've just watched the scout report - he flies along, doesn't he?

I just hope we play the ball in front of him for him to run onto
Nothing more frustrating for a winger than having to check his stride from a poor pass
As long as we have some good ball playing midfielders our service out wide shouldn't be an issue


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2021, 14:52:54 pm
Excited with this signing.

Opposition fans haven't even slagged him orf. St Mirren fans on twitter that I've seen are all disappointed he's left them. When did that last happen, normally we're told straight away how rubbish our new signings are!!  ;D

He's bound to be inconsistent, 99% of wingers are. However, his pace along with Pinnock's will clearly mean teams will set themselves up a bit deeper against us.

Good stuff!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 15, 2021, 15:12:27 pm
Graham Carr plundered the non league to produce a fantastic side, JB is plundering Scotland.

I just hope he stays away from the national team.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on June 15, 2021, 15:13:12 pm
I assume we will still play Hoskins right mid?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 15, 2021, 15:13:53 pm


Opposition fans haven't even slagged him orf. St Mirren fans on twitter that I've seen are all disappointed he's left them. When did that last happen, normally we're told straight away how rubbish our new signings are!!  ;D




Please share... everything I have seen is less than complimentary!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 15, 2021, 15:24:44 pm
Graham Carr plundered the non league to produce a fantastic side, JB is plundering Scotland.

I just hope he stays away from the national team.



I'd hedge a bet that JB hadn't even heard of any of these players north of the border prior to the arrival of Martin Foyle.

I guess if we sink the finger will be pointed at Martin Foyle. If we float JB will take the credit :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 15, 2021, 15:33:33 pm
Yes Sir, I can boogie.

I'm oof doon sooth to Northampton.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 15, 2021, 15:37:20 pm
I assume we will still play Hoskins right mid?


Well at the very least he will have competition now, something he amazingly didn't have at all last season due to Curle's bizarre squad planning!

I hope the addition of pacey wide players will make Rose and/or Smith look better this year. Neither are particularly capable of making things out of nothing (bar Rose's bicycle kick wonder goal) but both seemingly could score a decent amount if they are getting crosses from the byline more often. That didn't happen enough last year as we didn't have that pace or invention in wide areas so fingers crossed that Pinnock and Connolly can add that, and Hoskins raises his game to what we have seen from him before!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 15, 2021, 15:53:44 pm
Please share... everything I have seen is less than complimentary!

Cobblers twitter page, 20 quoted retweets mainly from St Mirren and Bradford fans. Not seen any overly negative comments. A few 'inconsistent' ones but that's always the case with wingers at this level.

What I do know from following a lower league football team all over the country for 30 plus years is that if you've got a bloody quick winger, it definitely gets you playing further up the pitch because the opposition are scared of pace and set up deeper. It appears we've now got two.

So even if they are inconsistent, which I have no doubt they will be (!!!) it wont overly matter because they will be tightly marked and our other lads will get less attention.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 15, 2021, 17:17:51 pm
As a former winger himself, let's hope that Brady can get the best out Pinnock and Donnelly.

The recruitment so far has a 'traditional 4-4-2' vibe about it: two wingers, pacey striker, midfielder known for getting on the end of crosses. Nothing wrong with 4-4-2 at L2 level, but it will be interesting to see how we get on against teams who employ more defensive/midfield-heavy formations if this is to be the case.

Besides from the obvious centre back, RB and GK, I would still love us to to sign a creative attacking midfielder with guile and an eye for a pass and a dominant centre forward who can win headers - not convinced we have one of those yet.

Perhaps Chuks can emerge properly and provide that elusive creative X factor this year.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on June 15, 2021, 17:19:07 pm
Quite pleased with the signings we've made from a style of play perspective. If we can muster some decent quality to plug the obvious holes at he back, I'd be fancying us for an exciting season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 15, 2021, 17:52:43 pm
Burton Albion have signed Bryn Morris


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 15, 2021, 18:41:50 pm
Burton Albion have signed Bryn Morris
That’s a shame I’d have liked him as playmaker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 15, 2021, 19:11:43 pm
That’s a shame I’d have liked him as playmaker.

Same for me. Think in a lower division we would have seen the best of him. He has quite a decent passing range but we didn't have the mobile targets for him to find last year!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 15, 2021, 20:06:15 pm
Yes, Kilmarnock, Paisley, Kilmarnock...
Incoming from Greenock Morton next!  ;)
plundering the sweaties hasn’t finished yet ....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 15, 2021, 20:24:05 pm
I assume we will still play Hoskins right mid?
Hopefully it’s back to the chocolate factory for our little Oompa Loompa.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 15, 2021, 20:38:38 pm
So far we have signed 4 players and in every case the forum of the club they are leaving are filled with negative comments about them.
A selection from the St. Mirren forum:-"He's lightning quick but has no end product"," I was surprised we offered him a new contract" and "it might have been worth keeping him to use as a sub". It seems that although he has featured in most of their games he has not made the starting 11 for a while. St. Mirren fans have not forgiven us as somebody was reported to have told them that Junior Morias would score 20 goals a season for them.
I'm not expecting too many more signings until our main targets have finished playing in the euros.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2021, 20:59:40 pm
Do they think that we play in Corby?

 ;D  Quite Witty one, be over some heads tho'!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2021, 21:01:17 pm
Graham Carr plundered the non league to produce a fantastic side, JB is plundering Scotland.

I just hope he stays away from the national team.


JB - Hammer of the Scots


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2021, 21:06:16 pm
As a former winger himself, let's hope that Brady can get the best out Pinnock and Donnelly.

The recruitment so far has a 'traditional 4-4-2' vibe about it: two wingers, pacey striker, midfielder known for getting on the end of crosses. Nothing wrong with 4-4-2 at L2 level, but it will be interesting to see how we get on against teams who employ more defensive/midfield-heavy formations if this is to be the case.

Besides from the obvious centre back, RB and GK, I would still love us to to sign a creative attacking midfielder with guile and an eye for a pass and a dominant centre forward who can win headers - not convinced we have one of those yet.

Perhaps Chuks can emerge properly and provide that elusive creative X factor this year.


Absolutely Bungle absolutely 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 15, 2021, 21:45:16 pm
Excited with this signing.

Opposition fans haven't even slagged him orf. St Mirren fans on twitter that I've seen are all disappointed he's left them. When did that last happen, normally we're told straight away how rubbish our new signings are!!  ;D

He's bound to be inconsistent, 99% of wingers are. However, his pace along with Pinnock's will clearly mean teams will set themselves up a bit deeper against us.

Good stuff!


Only 5'.7" all the others are 6' plus :'('


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 16, 2021, 06:08:13 am
This Land Is Your Land .
Words associated with our club in more ways than one .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Vince Planner on June 16, 2021, 07:40:22 am
This Land Is Your Land .
Words associated with our club in more ways than one .
Jon Guthrie then, fits the bill and is on the transfer list.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 16, 2021, 07:46:14 am
Certainly fits.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 16, 2021, 08:56:53 am
What’s with these awful T shirts we keep getting new signings to pose in?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 16, 2021, 09:46:20 am
What’s with these awful T shirts we keep getting new signings to pose in?



are they worse than the "teyn" brand?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 16, 2021, 10:09:27 am
are they worse than the "teyn" brand?


They look like the sort of thing someone has produced as a GCSE project.

Fruit of the loom specials with NTFC shoehorned in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobblergaz59 on June 16, 2021, 10:19:45 am


The recruitment so far has a 'traditional 4-4-2' vibe about it:




More likely 4-2-3-1 ....gotta shoehorn Sammy into the mddle somewhere  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 16, 2021, 10:46:52 am
Think Sammy will be more of a squad player this year.
Just hasn’t got the ability in my eyes sadly.
Loyal, hard working and I’d imagine he’s a good trainer so good to have him around the place though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 16, 2021, 11:02:21 am
They look like the sort of thing someone has produced as a GCSE project.

Fruit of the loom specials with NTFC shoehorned in.
Nothing wrong with fruit of the loom. I have got some that are 15 years old, and still in perfect shape.
If you want cheap sh1t, go mingle with the Skeggys, at primark.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 16, 2021, 11:07:13 am
Potentially one in today, currently no names


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 16, 2021, 11:32:24 am
Potentially one in today, currently no names
Any idea on position?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 16, 2021, 13:05:39 pm
Any idea on position?

CB


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 16, 2021, 13:55:51 pm
Potentially one in today, currently no names

Cant give us one of your clues haha?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 16, 2021, 14:28:29 pm
Potentially one in today, currently no names

Nice to have you on here.
Also nice we appear not be waiting around to get players in :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 16, 2021, 14:36:02 pm
Think Sammy will be more of a squad player this year.
Just hasn’t got the ability in my eyes sadly.
Loyal, hard working and I’d imagine he’s a good trainer so good to have him around the place though.


It will all depend on form, Hoskins was our highest scoring attacker last season and if we play 4-4-2 will probably vie with others for either striker or wide right. You just need to look at last season where a lot of the new signings (Missilou, Bolger, Rose, BAS & Sowerby) didn’t cut it and where peripheral at best to show being a new signing is no guarantee of a continued starting place.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 16, 2021, 15:28:30 pm
Nice to have you on here.
Also nice we appear not be waiting around to get players in :)

You’ll have to wait a bit longer, won’t be today!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on June 16, 2021, 15:37:31 pm
Has he seen the ground then? Lost our pen?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 16, 2021, 16:05:34 pm
You’ll have to wait a bit longer, won’t be today!
You know who it is Clad or just position?
If so are you happy with him?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 16, 2021, 16:27:51 pm
You know who it is Clad or just position?
If so are you happy with him?

Clad? Do you mean ntfc LAD  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 16, 2021, 16:35:58 pm
Clad? Do you mean ntfc LAD  ;D
Yes! 🤣


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 16, 2021, 17:03:08 pm
Tall and can pass the ball!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 16, 2021, 18:59:35 pm
As we could not get the signing over the line today does this mean we have been unable to agree terms and the player is in talks with other clubs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 16, 2021, 20:17:11 pm
As we could not get the signing over the line today does this mean we have been unable to agree terms and the player is in talks with other clubs?
We will find out in a few weeks  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 16, 2021, 20:39:21 pm
As we could not get the signing over the line today does this mean we have been unable to agree terms and the player is in talks with other clubs?

Not at all


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wattie on June 17, 2021, 10:10:48 am
Not at all


Is that a hidden clue as in he's not very tall 🤣


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 17, 2021, 10:24:11 am
Not at all
If it’s a clue then surely it means we’re resigning Nuttall!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 17, 2021, 10:35:58 am
If it’s a clue then surely it means we’re resigning Nuttall!!

If ever a “signing” encapsulated last season it was Nuttall.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 17, 2021, 10:39:46 am
If ever a “signing” encapsulated last season it was Nuttall.
Too true sir


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wirral Cobbler on June 17, 2021, 10:56:52 am
Mark Little ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: wellycobb on June 17, 2021, 12:03:40 pm
Any news on If the new signing will be announced today?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 17, 2021, 12:18:39 pm
Any news on If the new signing will be announced today?
From the horse’s mouth... maybe but more likely no than yes...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on June 17, 2021, 14:18:05 pm
Excited with this signing.

Opposition fans haven't even slagged him orf. St Mirren fans on twitter that I've seen are all disappointed he's left them. When did that last happen, normally we're told straight away how rubbish our new signings are!!  ;D

He's bound to be inconsistent, 99% of wingers are. However, his pace along with Pinnock's will clearly mean teams will set themselves up a bit deeper against us.

Good stuff!


Anyone remember 'Speedy Spelman' (think this is how you spell his name)? Very quick!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on June 17, 2021, 15:26:25 pm
Anyone remember 'Speedy Spelman' (think this is how you spell his name)? Very quick!

Yes, Ron Spelman.
He was so fast occasionally the ball couldn't keep up with him so he carried on running without it.   ;D

Really good asset though, used to enjoy watching him leave the opposition in his wake.   👍



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 17, 2021, 17:29:11 pm
Yes, Ron Spelman.
He was so fast occasionally the ball couldn't keep up with him so he carried on running without it.   ;D

Really good asset though, used to enjoy watching him leave the opposition in his wake.   👍


83yrs now so has done well if correct!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 17, 2021, 17:32:21 pm
Tall and can pass the ball!

Ballard on season loan?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on June 17, 2021, 18:54:15 pm
More likely Wellard, Robbie from Eastenders dog.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 17, 2021, 21:16:19 pm
Can we have a sweepstake for the first time the words 'time' and 'gel' are used in the same sentence?

I'm going for July 10th close to the annual Fernie Fields hog roast opener!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 17, 2021, 21:28:24 pm
Can we have a sweepstake for the first time the words 'time' and 'gel' are used in the same sentence?

I'm going for July 10th close to the annual Fernie Fields hog roast opener!

😀😀


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 18, 2021, 08:24:35 am
More likely Wellard, Robbie from Eastenders dog.


Don’t watch Soaps boring and repetitive. Wife loves them!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 18, 2021, 08:49:43 am


Don’t watch Soaps boring and repetitive. Wife loves them!
i can see why she married you then Evers


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 18, 2021, 09:27:30 am
i can see why she married you then Evers

 I am surprised that you are a fan of the soaps ; explains your absence from so many games >:D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 18, 2021, 09:30:24 am
I am surprised that you are a fan of the soaps ; explains your absence from so many games >:D
??? i’m not and i don’t


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 18, 2021, 09:32:01 am
??? i’m not and i don’t

Yes you are - you are a fan of East Enders ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 18, 2021, 09:44:02 am
So, anyone expected in today ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 18, 2021, 11:26:18 am


Don’t watch Soaps boring and repetitive. Wife loves them!
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You mean you had your fill of boring and repetitive at Sixfields  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 18, 2021, 14:19:08 pm
Where's news of this signing that we were promised a couple of days ago?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: andycobbler on June 18, 2021, 14:23:33 pm
Colin


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 18, 2021, 14:27:44 pm
I’ve just popped by to see if the only man in the know has posted anything…
No Ntfclad , no transfers.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 18, 2021, 15:14:55 pm
Where's news of this signing that we were promised a couple of days ago?
I don't think we were promised anything


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 18, 2021, 15:33:14 pm
Potentially one in today, currently no names

Not promised but when ntfclad says the above it normally happens.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 18, 2021, 15:36:01 pm
You’ll have to wait a bit longer, won’t be today!

He also said this a little later, so I would suggest greek73 that something was going to happen.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 19, 2021, 11:57:15 am
Ryan Watson signs for Tranmere so we have swapped midfielders with them.
We can forget about David Tutonda coming here as he has signed for Gillingham.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 19, 2021, 12:42:54 pm
Where's news of this signing that we were promised a couple of days ago?

Promised is a bit of a stretch, but confirmation didn’t materialise…

Don’t think it’ll be too far away


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 19, 2021, 12:45:03 pm
Ryan Watson signs for Tranmere so we have swapped midfielders with them.
We can forget about David Tutonda coming here as he has signed for Gillingham.
You can guarantee we’ve managed to save on the wage bill though
Good to see us making a concerted effort to retain the housekeeping award again…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 19, 2021, 12:46:03 pm
Promised is a bit of a stretch, but confirmation didn’t materialise…

Don’t think it’ll be too far away

Can you confirm the position ntfclad?

Also, any news on at least one keeper yet?

Do you know how long the notice period Calderwood has to serve is?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 19, 2021, 12:52:18 pm
Promised is a bit of a stretch, but confirmation didn’t materialise…

Don’t think it’ll be too far away

Promised was the wrong word. It's your reputation ntfclad, when you mention a possible signing we all get excited.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 19, 2021, 16:53:12 pm
Can you confirm the position ntfclad?

Also, any news on at least one keeper yet?

Do you know how long the notice period Calderwood has to serve is?

Think the keeper search is moving along nicely from what I hear


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 19, 2021, 17:47:39 pm
You can guarantee we’ve managed to save on the wage bill though
Good to see us making a concerted effort to retain the housekeeping award again…

What were the respective figures.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 19, 2021, 19:00:22 pm
What were the respective figures.
What’s that got to do with you?
Do you think a footballer who we couldn’t agree terms with has been replaced by one on better terms ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 19, 2021, 19:08:27 pm
Its a guarantee. What is the difference in the respected costs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on June 19, 2021, 19:11:23 pm
What were the respective figures.

Watson is 1.85 m tall
Lewis is   1.86 m tall

so just a slight increase


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 19, 2021, 19:16:40 pm
The players coming down from Scotland wouldn’t have been on that much. Some canny business and reckon we’ve done OK so far.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on June 19, 2021, 19:22:09 pm
Its a guarantee. What is the difference in the respected costs?

Best to ignore Shoemaker Pedj.

He is just a negative irritant with a massive chip on his shoulder.     ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 19, 2021, 20:01:58 pm
Best to ignore Shoemaker Pedj.

He is just a negative irritant with a massive chip on his shoulder.     ::) ::) ::)
Thankyou for thinking of me.

I’ve never given you a moments thought to be honest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 19, 2021, 20:08:18 pm
The players coming down from Scotland wouldn’t have been on that much. Some canny business and reckon we’ve done OK so far.
We are building a squad on a shoestring but I do agree that the business is as good as we could expect with our limitations.
It’s the strikers that cost money
That’s why ours have been basically crap for twenty years or so  ;D

As an aside have we had a twenty goal striker this century as we are a fifth of the way through it now!!

I’d say we have made some good signings on paper that won’t have cost much.
We’d be set for a good season if we had a couple of decent proven strikers as I believe we have a couple of decent wide men now.
Unfortunately we have three or four strikers who are absolutely shocking


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 19, 2021, 22:35:29 pm


As an aside have we had a twenty goal striker this century as we are a fifth of the way through it now!!


Super Scott McGleish 2005-2006 managed 24...since then probably not.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 19, 2021, 22:43:51 pm
Super Scott McGleish 2005-2006 managed 24...since then probably not.

17 of those in the League, 4 in the FA Cup, 2 in the League Trophy and 1 in the League Cup.

Richard Hill was our last 20 league goal a season player.... he scored 29 in 1986/87


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 20, 2021, 08:08:00 am
17 of those in the League, 4 in the FA Cup, 2 in the League Trophy and 1 in the League Cup.

Richard Hill was our last 20 league goal a season player.... he scored 29 in 1986/87

They all count in the scoring charts. It’s probably ironic our top scorer in the last 35 years played in midfield!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on June 20, 2021, 08:38:16 am
17 of those in the League, 4 in the FA Cup, 2 in the League Trophy and 1 in the League Cup.

Richard Hill was our last 20 league goal a season player.... he scored 29 in 1986/87


And before that? Was there anyone who scored 20 league goals in the 70s?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on June 20, 2021, 08:46:15 am


And before that? Was there anyone who scored 20 league goals in the 70s?

I’m sure Jim Hall scored 20 plus, 75/76.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 20, 2021, 10:48:44 am
What’s that got to do with you?
Do you think a footballer who we couldn’t agree terms with has been replaced by one on better terms ::)

Bit rude Maestro?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 20, 2021, 11:10:49 am
I’m sure Jim Hall scored 20 plus, 75/76.

Cliff Hilton and then Alec Ashworth perhaps Ken Leek, Charlie Livesey. All perhaps not in time frame but all very worth a mention! Come to think of it Bobby Brown was good went to Cardiff in late 60’s.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 20, 2021, 13:03:41 pm
I’m sure Jim Hall scored 20 plus, 75/76.

Correct 22 in 75/76
Followed up by Giant George with 22 and 23 in 77/77 and 78/79


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on June 20, 2021, 13:39:01 pm
Cliff Hilton and then Alec Ashworth perhaps Ken Leek, Charlie Livesey. All perhaps not in time frame but all very worth a mention! Come to think of it Bobby Brown was good went to Cardiff in late 60’s.

Then he married Whitney Houston and ruined her life.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on June 20, 2021, 16:13:11 pm
So one player has scored 20 league goals in 41 years. No wonder we are in are all miserable


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 21, 2021, 08:42:35 am
Just seen on Twitter a link to Jordan Flores on loan from Hull

Another midfielder..? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Flores



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 21, 2021, 09:14:44 am
Just seen on Twitter a link to Jordan Flores on loan from Hull

Another midfielder..? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Flores


How exciting  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 21, 2021, 14:35:57 pm
Surely going to be a busy week this week?

Players must be reporting back to pre-season training anytime, season starts 6 weeks satdee?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 21, 2021, 15:21:42 pm
Who do you guys follow on Twitter to get gossip??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 21, 2021, 15:22:20 pm
Surely going to be a busy week this week?

Players must be reporting back to pre-season training anytime, season starts 6 weeks satdee?!
Still no keeper!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 21, 2021, 15:25:56 pm
Who do you guys follow on Twitter to get gossip??

The efl zone is a pretty reliable source.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 21, 2021, 15:29:10 pm
The efl zone is a pretty reliable source.
Cheers mate!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 21, 2021, 15:41:28 pm
Jay Williams looking at a move out of EFL from Harrogate to Yeovil.
It’s a shame when “one of our own” has to go backwards in their career.
Probably best for the lad long term- good luck to him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 21, 2021, 17:53:27 pm
What do people think we need? My shopping list would be:

Core/obvious

GK X2 (experienced pro and good youngster to provide competition)

Centre backs X 2 minimum

Right back

Less obvious but needed IMO


- Proven centre forward (aerial/hold up ability + goalscoring pedigree)
-Attacking midfielder/playmaker with guile (not sure JB will sign one but he should)
- Young pacey super-sub type who can come on and play on the wing or up front (Mikkel Miller but with more end product)


That's 7-8 players at a minimum. As Drilling says, time is marching on so hopefully they'll be some movement this week.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 21, 2021, 18:26:09 pm
What do people think we need? My shopping list would be:

Core/obvious

GK X2 (experienced pro and good youngster to provide competition)

Centre backs X 2 minimum

Right back

Less obvious but needed IMO


- Proven centre forward (aerial/hold up ability + goalscoring pedigree)
-Attacking midfielder/playmaker with guile (not sure JB will sign one but he should)
- Young pacey super-sub type who can come on and play on the wing or up front (Mikkel Miller but with more end product)


That's 7-8 players at a minimum. As Drilling says, time is marching on so hopefully they'll be some movement this week.
Agree with all of that but would caveat all of your list with core / obvious.
Let’s see what happens when the news of our illustrious chairman breaks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on June 21, 2021, 19:28:49 pm
What news is this then Manwork ? If its common knowledge then need to keep it secret is there ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 21, 2021, 19:49:05 pm
What news is this then Manwork ? If its common knowledge then need to keep it secret is there ?
It’s not common knowledge........yet.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on June 21, 2021, 19:54:21 pm
It would be if you posted on here. what you scared of ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 21, 2021, 20:20:27 pm
It would be if you posted on here. what you scared of ?

He's not scared, he just likes to think it makes him look clever.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 21, 2021, 20:31:27 pm
He's not scared, he just likes to think it makes him look clever.
Fûck me I’d need to do more than this to make me look clever.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 07:38:58 am
It’s not common knowledge........yet.
It's not libelous if its true, so you have nothing to fear.
They say there's no smoke without fire but I'm guessing this is just hot air as always.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 07:44:37 am
What do people think we need? My shopping list would be:

Core/obvious

GK X2 (experienced pro and good youngster to provide competition)

Centre backs X 2 minimum

Right back

Less obvious but needed IMO


- Proven centre forward (aerial/hold up ability + goalscoring pedigree)
-Attacking midfielder/playmaker with guile (not sure JB will sign one but he should)
- Young pacey super-sub type who can come on and play on the wing or up front (Mikkel Miller but with more end product)


That's 7-8 players at a minimum. As Drilling says, time is marching on so hopefully they'll be some movement this week.
Scott Pollock can hopefully fill the role of playmaker. Really excited to see what he can do this season


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on June 22, 2021, 10:10:55 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/goalkeeper-mitchell-released-by-derby-county-3281888 GK sorted then  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 22, 2021, 10:53:36 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/goalkeeper-mitchell-released-by-derby-county-3281888 GK sorted then  ;D
Please no.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 22, 2021, 11:30:12 am
Please no.

My thoughts exactly.  :'(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 22, 2021, 11:54:35 am
Going by some of JB’s thinly veiled post match comments I can’t see us bringing Mitchell in permanently (at least I hope this is the case - JB doesn’t strike me as a stupid man).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 22, 2021, 12:03:31 pm
There is NO WAY we will be signing Mitchell permanently, easily one of the worst keepers we've ever had imo (before a certain person comments!)

No doubt, he'll drop into non league obscurity...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 22, 2021, 12:05:41 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/goalkeeper-mitchell-released-by-derby-county-3281888 GK sorted then  ;D

More chance of getting peggy mitchell than him .
I expect we will get experience this time around .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 12:38:46 pm
It's not libelous if its true, so you have nothing to fear.
They say there's no smoke without fire but I'm guessing this is just hot air as always.
;D You’ll just have to wait, FFS kids today no patience


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wirral Cobbler on June 22, 2021, 12:39:42 pm
To be fair although he made some bad errors at times, he was thrown in at the deep end considering how the rest of the team performed at times!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 12:45:21 pm
;D You’ll just have to wait, FFS kids today no patience
Is the balloon festival on this year? You might as well but the hot air to some good use


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 13:20:48 pm
I PROMISE one is in today


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 13:23:39 pm
I PROMISE one is in today
Position? Exciting? Which Scottish club?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on June 22, 2021, 13:27:23 pm
More chance of getting peggy mitchell than him .
I expect we will get experience this time around .

As they say, 'Experience is the best keeper'...
Well almost!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 13:36:41 pm
Position? Exciting? Which Scottish club?

Not 100% but from what I heard yesterday if I was hedging my bets I’d say the keeper will be in today and they’ll have looked south of the border this time…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 22, 2021, 13:52:23 pm
Not 100% but from what I heard yesterday if I was hedging my bets I’d say the keeper will be in today and they’ll have looked south of the border this time…

Thanks for the information as always mate, any idea why the incoming that you said about last week failed to materialise?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 13:55:40 pm
Thanks for the information as always mate, any idea why the incoming that you said about last week failed to materialise?

Not a scooby mate


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 22, 2021, 14:34:48 pm
Keeper signing imminent according to Twitter!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobblernick97uk on June 22, 2021, 14:43:52 pm
Keeper signing imminent according to Twitter!

Where are you looking on Twitter? I can’t see anything and I’m usually pretty quick on news  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 22, 2021, 14:44:53 pm
Keeper signing imminent according to Twitter!

Imagine, if it was MITCHELL!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 14:52:17 pm
Imagine, if it was MITCHELL!!!

It’s not


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 22, 2021, 14:52:29 pm
There's nothing on twitter :s


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 22, 2021, 14:57:15 pm
it won’t be mitchell , i can assure you of that


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 14:58:42 pm
There's nothing on twitter :s
Have to wait for the pink'un then


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 15:19:41 pm
it won’t be mitchell , i can assure you of that
That would be the equivalent of self harm.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 22, 2021, 15:32:15 pm
Anyone else have problems attaching files??
Keeps asking me to contact administrator🤨


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 22, 2021, 15:38:56 pm
Something on twitter now! 😆


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2021, 15:56:36 pm
Any chance it is a recent goal scoring goalkeeper?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 22, 2021, 15:59:07 pm
Welcome back David Cornell Liam Roberts


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 22, 2021, 16:04:36 pm
6 foot tall according to wiki.
Bit of a midget for a keeper these days?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: petrmikolanda on June 22, 2021, 16:04:49 pm
Liam Roberts. Experienced L2 keeper, keeps a clean sheet every now and then. Seems to have a mistake in him every now and then but a decent keeper to have, and at least it's not a loan again!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 22, 2021, 16:09:05 pm
I can see him being back- up keeper?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 16:10:55 pm
My favourite comment from the Walsall forum  “popadom wrists”  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 16:11:37 pm
I can see him being back- up keeper?
You can see or hope ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 22, 2021, 16:12:49 pm
You can see or hope ?

Hope   ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Walsall Saddler on June 22, 2021, 16:13:00 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 22, 2021, 16:17:47 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !
Oh


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 22, 2021, 16:18:48 pm
My favourite comment from the Walsall forum  “popadom wrists”  ;D

Let's hope he curries favour with our fans!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on June 22, 2021, 16:19:33 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !

As he played 149 times for yourselves has he got worse ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 22, 2021, 16:20:04 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !

No worries, mate. We're getting used to it. ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 22, 2021, 16:31:49 pm
Seems like most other GKs this level...

Sure with a good start and a bit of confidence that he can do a decent job. Definitely need to sign another GK in there as well though so theres some competition for the starting spot. We saw what 1 senior keeper in the squad looks like last season!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 22, 2021, 16:41:11 pm
All the signings we have made so far have received pretty damming reviews by the fans they are departing.

Very aware its easy to be negative, however this is not a trend I am enjoying. I was hoping fact we had paid a fee for him might be they were sad to see him go, whereas most fans appear to be lining up to pay his bus fair.

I have sinking feeling we will be looking back at this time and highlighting this pattern too.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on June 22, 2021, 16:43:24 pm
Another signing set to be announced at 6!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 16:47:53 pm
Let's hope he curries favour with our fans!
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 16:48:11 pm
Hope   ;D
🤞


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 16:48:28 pm
I PROMISED one but two would be lovely wouldn’t it


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 16:50:50 pm
If this is a midfielder on loan this is the one I was expecting a few days ago...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 16:51:04 pm
I PROMISED one but two would be lovely wouldn’t it
Depends who they are.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2021, 16:52:56 pm
If this is a midfielder on loan this is the one I was expecting a few days ago...

That Hull lad Flores then?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 22, 2021, 16:53:52 pm
That Hull lad Flores then?

That’s the name I was given, time will tell I suppose


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 22, 2021, 16:55:06 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !

You didn't see who we had between the sticks last season!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2021, 17:01:53 pm
And is that Hull lad Flores.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 22, 2021, 17:02:15 pm
I'm glad that we've got someone who wants to be on the ball at least! I want to see more of that please.
Every single signing we've done had seemed really poor on paper. Got to trust in the judgement here that we've seen something in all these boys and some magic is going to happen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: NTFC Nut on June 22, 2021, 17:08:58 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !

Wow, you went to the effort of signing up for another club's forum and creating a profile - complete with profile pic - just to say that? Has the lad shagged your missus or something?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 22, 2021, 17:10:11 pm
Maybe the Recruitment Committee are going down the Moneyball route - signing up all of the waifs, strays and rejects based on their KPI’s.  On the other hand it’s probably because they’re dirt cheap and no one else wanted them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 22, 2021, 17:18:07 pm
Finally a signing that hasn’t been ripped apart by opposition fans… even if it is just because he hasn’t played!

Hopefully our recruitment team know a lot more than the fans… although I’m not sure how many times our scouts would have watched them in comparison to the fans.

Time will tell.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 22, 2021, 17:18:34 pm
I really think, for how cheap it is to invest, that a really good quality keeper could be transformational for a team. I'm ready to give everyone a fresh chance for at least 5 games, but I've got to say I really feel worried for our season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 22, 2021, 17:25:19 pm


Hopefully our recruitment team know a lot more than the fans...
I'm not sure that would be too difficult


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 22, 2021, 17:30:04 pm
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-40089068.html


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 22, 2021, 17:41:40 pm
As far as keeper signings go, that's not quite the experienced old head I was hoping for.

Not exactly much praise coming from Walsall fans either.

Still 149 games is not to be sneezed at and he may have just had a poor season.

Let's hope this one works out in our favour.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 22, 2021, 19:51:59 pm
Cant say ether signing has impressed me today. However have to trust those doing the recruitment process being are being told is happening.
Need cover on the flanks and a centre back. However the squad looks to be being put together on a shoe string so I'm curving my expectations.

Anything above a mid-table finish at the moment with these plays on paper will be a surprise.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 22, 2021, 19:55:51 pm
I'm not sure that would be too difficult
You strike me as someone who is completely irrelevant. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Walsall Saddler on June 22, 2021, 20:02:17 pm
Wow, you went to the effort of signing up for another club's forum and creating a profile - complete with profile pic - just to say that? Has the lad shagged your missus or something?

I am surprised he didn't drop the pen while signing on. I will be here all season don't worry  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 22, 2021, 20:20:20 pm
I'm not sure that would be too difficult

Well the fact there will be people out there having watched all 100+ of his games casting doubt on his ability…

Hopefully our scouts haven’t watched a couple of games and been sold on his highlights video…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 22, 2021, 20:31:50 pm
The level of negativity from some towards the new boys before having ever seen them play is absolutely baffling. How about waiting until you've at the very least seen them play in pre-season before making your minds up whether to write them off as poor signings or not?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 22, 2021, 20:32:54 pm
The level of negativity from some towards the new boys before having ever seen them play is absolutely baffling. How about waiting until you've at the very least seen them play in pre-season before making your minds up whether to write them off as poor signings or not?
How dare you suggest that people go against tradition?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 22, 2021, 20:46:08 pm
I am surprised he didn't drop the pen while signing on. I will be here all season don't worry  ;D
;D😂😂, made me laugh anyway.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on June 22, 2021, 21:19:52 pm
I am surprised he didn't drop the pen while signing on. I will be here all season don't worry  ;D

But can he save the pen?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on June 22, 2021, 22:57:25 pm
I appreciate that the scout reports on youtube are highlights.... But they all look to have ability to me.

But then it would be interesting to see a similar scout report for all our players from last season and see if I felt similarly optimistic....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: St Edmundsbury Cobbler on June 23, 2021, 05:10:09 am
I appreciate that the scout reports on youtube are highlights.... But they all look to have ability to me.

But then it would be interesting to see a similar scout report for all our players from last season and see if I felt similarly optimistic....

I was mesmerised by the Christopher Missalou highlights reel, which highlighted his hard work, ability to win the ball and great range of passing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wirral Cobbler on June 23, 2021, 06:34:01 am
And whenever I saw him play that’s pretty much what I remember him doing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 23, 2021, 07:10:09 am
I did notice on the Scouting Report for the new keeper he is rarely more than 2-3 yards off his goal line. Made some excellent saves but would have been much easier to come out and claim the cross.
But he still has time to learn and maybe that was how they wanted him to play.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Wirral Cobbler on June 23, 2021, 07:49:04 am
Yep good point, it’ll all depend on how well the coaching and management team are able to do their job with the team (both old and new players) and we won’t know that until the season gets underway. Until then let’s enjoy it and not stress about things that probably won’t happen!

Global warming… now that looks a dead cert!    :'(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 23, 2021, 08:28:38 am
I did notice on the Scouting Report for the new keeper he is rarely more than 2-3 yards off his goal line. Made some excellent saves but would have been much easier to come out and claim the cross.
But he still has time to learn and maybe that was how they wanted him to play.

fans on FB and twitter have said he cannot command his box to save his life.

I will reserve judgement though, it wouldn't be the first time football fans have been wrong about a player (including ours)  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 23, 2021, 08:32:06 am
Based on Matty Taylors comments, it sounds like Roberts is certainly our new no.1.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on June 23, 2021, 11:01:34 am
Is it just me that is reminded of Adam Smith when looking at Roberts both pictures and highlight reel?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 23, 2021, 11:47:00 am
Is it just me that is reminded of Adam Smith when looking at Roberts both pictures and highlight reel?

I thought the same, especially how he throws himself with arms splayed. Still, if he has anything like the ability of (early) Adam Smith he'll be a vast improvement... actually, Smith at his worst was way better than what we have endured the last few seasons.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 23, 2021, 11:51:23 am
I see port vale sign that Brazilian keeper from torquay.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on June 23, 2021, 12:47:54 pm
Impressed with Curle's signing between the sticks - the lad from Huddersfield.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 23, 2021, 13:23:02 pm
So are we paying a transfer fee for this goalkeeper?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 23, 2021, 13:34:32 pm
Impressed with Curle's signing between the sticks - the lad from Huddersfield.

They have just signed Harrison McGahey, scrolling though Twitter, his former clubs supporters are a lot more complimentary than any of the players we have signed :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 23, 2021, 13:47:55 pm
Is it just me that is reminded of Adam Smith when looking at Roberts both pictures and highlight reel?
Wow is he getting his arśe licked in Thailand as well?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 23, 2021, 13:52:10 pm
They have just signed Harrison McGahey, scrolling though Twitter, his former clubs supporters are a lot more complimentary than any of the players we have signed :)
I bet Keith’s more than happy to be there.
I fancy Oldham for promotion given the right financial backing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 23, 2021, 13:59:21 pm
I bet Keith’s more than happy to be there.
I fancy Oldham for promotion given the right financial backing.
Read in the week that their fan's group are encouraging fans to boycott all the home games to force the owner out.  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 23, 2021, 14:09:39 pm
It worked for Blackpool, maybe we should try something similar.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 23, 2021, 14:14:33 pm
I think we have the correct infrastructure and management team in place .
The squad so far to me though looks bang average mid table .
In line with the budget and expectation .
I notice no one has come in for any of our players on the fringe which is an issue .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dr Feelgood on June 23, 2021, 14:22:59 pm
Ive got a very bad feeling about these new signings.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 23, 2021, 14:25:52 pm
I think we have the correct infrastructure and management team in place .
The squad so far to me though looks bang average mid table .
In line with the budget and expectation .
I notice no one has come in for any of our players on the fringe which is an issue .
As I said, get on the phone to Derngate and see if they want BAS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 23, 2021, 15:21:25 pm
I bet Keith’s more than happy to be there.
I fancy Oldham for promotion given the right financial backing.

100% certain that we will finish higher than Oldham.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 23, 2021, 19:21:15 pm
I think we have the correct infrastructure and management team in place .
The squad so far to me though looks bang average mid table .
In line with the budget and expectation .
I notice no one has come in for any of our players on the fringe which is an issue .

There’s interest, most notably in Harry Smith


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 23, 2021, 20:02:31 pm
There’s interest, most notably in Harry Smith

Personally the only players remaining from last season that I'd be gutted to lose would be Horsfall, Chukwuemeka, Pollock and (particularly) McWilliams.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 23, 2021, 20:56:47 pm
There’s interest, most notably in Harry Smith

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/cambridge-united-exeter-city-newport-and-leyton-orient-eyeing-26-year-old-striker/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 24, 2021, 07:07:01 am
The interest in Harry Smith suggests that he is rated and valued elsewhere - perhaps we should keep him and hope that he kicks on this season?  I feel torn with Chuks - everything I have read suggests that he is only here due to his Youth contract and as soon as that expires at the end of the season he and his agent will be off to the highest bidder, it doesn’t give me the impression that he is exactly pleased to be here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 07:08:48 am
Heard this morning one of the promoted sides (L2 -> L1) are very interested in our super Sam...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on June 24, 2021, 07:23:04 am
Heard this morning one of the promoted sides (L2 -> L1) are very interested in our super Sam...

If money's involved I'd take it? What are the chances of signing another McWilliams?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 07:38:15 am
If money's involved I'd take it? What are the chances of signing another McWilliams?

Money would be nominal I think, anywhere from 25-100k I would think

No bid has been tabled yet they’re just very very keen


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 24, 2021, 07:52:18 am
Any bids in yet for Harry ntfclad?

4 clubs allegedly interested, but is it just rumour at this stage?

Again, if we get anything for him it'll be a bonus, just hasn't worked out for him here (saying that, he was never a target man so might suit Brady style of play?!)

Was signed on a 3 year deal pre-covid so must be a decentish wage, which could be used elsewhere

Really thought/hoped he'd be our new Stevie Howard!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 07:52:29 am
Heard this morning one of the promoted sides (L2 -> L1) are very interested in our super Sam...
The offer was from Mr Wonka @ The chocolate factory?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 07:55:46 am
Any bids in yet for Harry ntfclad?

4 clubs allegedly interested, but is it just rumour at this stage?

Again, if we get anything for him it'll be a bonus, just hasn't worked out for him here (saying that, he was never a target man so might suit Brady style of play?!)

Was signed on a 3 year deal pre-covid so must be a decentish wage, which could be used elsewhere

Really thought/hoped he'd be our new Stevie Howard!

That’s information I haven’t got I’m afraid. All I know is the interest is real.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 24, 2021, 07:59:42 am
That’s information I haven’t got I’m afraid. All I know is the interest is real.

Madrid, blimey  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 08:06:30 am
Madrid, blimey  :o

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2021, 08:37:31 am
Heard this morning one of the promoted sides (L2 -> L1) are very interested in our super Sam...

Please let that be true 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 24, 2021, 09:09:00 am
Any news on potential incomings ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 24, 2021, 09:39:20 am
Honestly, I think losing Sam for 50k would be poor business to be honest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 24, 2021, 09:47:18 am
Honestly, I think losing Sam for 50k would be poor business to be honest.

not at all.

easily replaceable, if we havent already, and will have no sell on value after this move

he wont get any better - managers always think they can get more out of him ability wise and never do


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 24, 2021, 09:49:05 am
I'd be fairly disappointed to lose Smith (because he has potential if used right) and very disappointed to lose Hoskins (because despite the derision he's an integral part of the team) - there are other players I'd happily lose but those two aren't on that list!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 09:55:48 am
Any news on potential incomings ntfclad?

Nothing specific


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 09:56:20 am
Cambridge are the team in for Hoskins I’ve been told…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 24, 2021, 10:07:04 am
I've seen some utter useless (and many very 'lazy') players play for us in these last few years and despite so many of our fans claiming Hoskins is crap, I absolutely do not agree with that.

I would be very disappointed if we sell him for 'a few quid'.

As for Smith, I think it may be best for all parties to part. I think there is a decent player hiding in there somewhere, perhaps a very decent player. However, if Brady can use his wages/budget somewhere else in the team then a fresh start may benefit everybody.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 10:46:24 am
I'd be fairly disappointed to lose Smith (because he has potential if used right) and very disappointed to lose Hoskins (because despite the derision he's an integral part of the team) - there are other players I'd happily lose but those two aren't on that list!
I know where your coming from because they will be replaced with bargain bucket, last minute cràp like we did with BAS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 24, 2021, 10:46:53 am
He definitely isn't exceptional or special or ireplacable, but if I list all of the players we've signed since we've signed Hoskins, there's not many that have performed better consistently. Far more misses than hits.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 10:49:20 am
He definitely isn't exceptional or special or ireplacable, but if I list all of the players we've signed since we've signed Hoskins, there's not many that have performed better consistently. Far more misses than hits.
Hoskins at L2 level is the best we can hope for, what does it say if we offload him and Smith and bring in loans or poor replacements?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 11:00:27 am
Hoskins at L2 level is the best we can hope for, what does it say if we offload him and Smith and bring in loans or poor replacements?
Is the answer we are running on a shoestring??

But let’s wait I’m sure the board have a couple of quality strikers lined up on a permanent basis.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 11:04:06 am
Is the answer we are running on a shoestring??

But let’s wait I’m sure the board have a couple of quality strikers lined up on a permanent basis.

The question is what will KT do when it becomes v clear he’s getting nothing from the council?
My guess is administration!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 11:10:30 am
Appreciate he polarizes opinion but SH isn't a player to let go, unless he wants out of course. Whatever money we get for him will probably pay for the open house. He won't be on huge wages either. Probably 10-12 goals we'll need to find from elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 24, 2021, 11:19:05 am
Appreciate he polarizes opinion but SH isn't a player to let go, unless he wants out of course.
Why would he want out? Guaranteed starting place, and regular salary. Most footballers spend their time moving up and down the country.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 11:23:22 am
Why would he want out? Guaranteed starting place, and regular salary. Most footballers spend their time moving up and down the country.
Let’s all be honest SH is a decent L2 player, this whole merry go round reminds me of Cardoza’s asset stripping when he knew the writing was on the wall.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Glastonbury Cobbler on June 24, 2021, 11:34:25 am
I would bite anyone's hand off if they are silly enough to pay anything for our "super" Sammy!

Drive him there myself in fact!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 11:35:29 am
Why would he want out? Guaranteed starting place, and regular salary. Most footballers spend their time moving up and down the country.
More money each week and the chance to continue playing at a higher level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 24, 2021, 11:48:41 am
More money each week and the chance to continue playing at a higher level.
So if Plymouth come in, and offer you a bit more, you would upsticks, and move to the other end of the country?
Not for me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 12:09:06 pm
So if Plymouth come in, and offer you a bit more, you would upsticks, and move to the other end of the country?
Not for me.
If I was offered £1 a month more then no
If I was offered say £1500 a month more for 2/3 years then I would.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 24, 2021, 12:19:54 pm
Smith passing a medical might be an issue , otherwise i think we would offload quickly .
We would not want to lose Sam - he is an asset at division 2 level and has pace .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 13:01:42 pm
Why would he want out? Guaranteed starting place, and regular salary. Most footballers spend their time moving up and down the country.

He’ll be well aware of the mixed fan’s opinion of him, so never going to be a club legend. It’s a notoriously short career and could be the difference of being on £75k to getting £100k a year for all we know. Might not be married with two kids settled in a Northampton school. If he got the opportunity I’m sure he’d consider staying in league one and a new challenge, especially after reading that fixture list!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 14:53:11 pm
With Kabamba signing and Chucks putting in some good performances at the end of the year it makes sense to try and offload some of the 4 attackers at the club to bring in players in other positions. Given the choice I’d keep Hoskins and Smith and offload Rose and BAS, but it’s no surprise there’s only reported interest in the first two mentioned and not the two I’d let go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 15:11:49 pm
Incoming


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 24, 2021, 15:13:26 pm
Incoming
I get more excited than I would like to admit when I see you have posted


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 15:19:53 pm
Old Nicola sour face Sturgeon may be the only one left up there


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 24, 2021, 15:22:44 pm
Suuuuuurely a defender!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:33:48 pm
I am surprised he didn't drop the pen while signing on. I will be here all season don't worry  ;D

If someone signed our old keeper Mitchell he wouldn’t get the best reviews but doesn’t mean he’s crap….oh, hang on a minute.  :P
He’ll be free from the West Midlands induced depression and playing for a big club.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 15:36:05 pm
Suuuuuurely a defender!?

You’re in luck


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:36:46 pm
Are we signing Jonny Maxted?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 15:41:54 pm
Could be a double brace


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:43:49 pm
It’s all out there on ‘tinternet folks.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:44:50 pm
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sources-northampton-town-close-in-on-27-year-olds-signature-ahead-of-league-two-return/amp/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 24, 2021, 15:48:39 pm
It’s all out there on ‘tinternet folks.

Another newsnow aficionado i see!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:54:32 pm
Another newsnow aficionado i see!

I always reveal my sources  :P
Let’s see if we can chalk off ‘footballleagueworld’ or if we can keep them on the list for now. Hadn’t seen him mentioned elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 15:55:18 pm
I’m pretty confident this isn’t Maxted...yet


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:57:48 pm
I’m pretty confident this isn’t Maxted...yet

If Maxted does sign we need a stewards enquiry on who is feeding them before our HotelEnd mole  :P
I hope he does and then we can have some funny songs about Wembley.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 15:59:56 pm
How about Guthrie that people were banging on about before?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 16:02:21 pm
How about Guthrie that people were banging on about before?

That’s him. Welcome.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 24, 2021, 16:19:23 pm
Solid defender, experienced and also a threat from set pieces.

Good signing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 16:19:43 pm
If Maxted does sign we need a stewards enquiry on who is feeding them before our HotelEnd mole  :P
I hope he does and then we can have some funny songs about Wembley.

Phew, wasn’t Maxted just yet


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 16:21:44 pm
Footage of him scoring against the pigs and the junkies, he’s alright with me welcome.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on June 24, 2021, 16:22:09 pm
This is most pleasing signing so far for sure and hopefully it will continue to aid Horsfalls development.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 16:22:39 pm
Phew, wasn’t Maxted just yet
Thought he was excellent in the play off final *














* for us  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 24, 2021, 16:29:43 pm
Goalkeeper should be soon, as jake  indicated that's not the only signing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 16:36:10 pm
Could be a double brace

Pffft that’s old news...

Who wants a clue? Could be a pointless exercise  ;D

Peter Kay and Adrian Dunbar!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 16:38:09 pm
Thought he was excellent in the play off final *














* for us  ;D
He could do with leaving Bayos diet tips alone as well!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 16:41:49 pm
Pffft that’s old news...

Who wants a clue? Could be a pointless exercise  ;D

Peter Kay and Adrian Dunbar!

I hate clues but only because i'm useless at working them out  >:(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 16:47:21 pm
I hate clues but only because i'm useless at working them out  >:(

Think who they’ve played


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on June 24, 2021, 16:48:59 pm
Max (Max and Paddy)

Ted (Line if Duty)

It’s either that or Phoenix Motherofgod from Sterling Albion.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 16:51:28 pm
Think who they’ve played

Car share and Hastings (Line of Duty) - told you I'm hopeless  :'(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 16:53:33 pm
Max

Ted

Now I see - but who's Max  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Noshes Shakily on June 24, 2021, 16:54:13 pm
Of Max and Paddy fame.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 16:57:14 pm
Of Max and Paddy fame.

 ??? Sorry I think it rings a bell  :-[


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 17:19:15 pm
Jonny Maxted it is, welcome aboard Jonny.

I prefer Liam Roberts and Jonny Maxted to Steve Arnold and Jonathan Mitchell. Both with good experience in league 2.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 17:21:58 pm
Is it me or do we seem to be signing a lot of bearded players this summer  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 17:40:19 pm
Is it me or do we seem to be signing a lot of bearded players this summer  ;D

Footballers are nothing if not predictable, they all seem to love the played out hipster look!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 24, 2021, 17:45:25 pm
I'm excited by all the signings tbh...

Two proper youngish but experienced keepers as appose to one who was constantly injured and one who was nowhere near football league level...

Proper wingers...

Creativity & balance in midfield...

Guthrie a shoe in to be our new captain & looks a fantastic signing for us...

NO HOOF BALL!!!  ;D





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 17:48:22 pm
I deal in names not clues….first time I’ve ever got the first rumour out*

Back into retirement.

*credit FLW

Welcome aboard…did you enjoy Wembley?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 24, 2021, 17:53:01 pm
Think we have a more than adequate replacement for jones now in guthrie. I still think we need at least 2 more cb's to be competitive?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 24, 2021, 17:59:33 pm
We have apparently gone 360 degrees in the eyes of some critics. We show no ambition playing Sam Hoskins to if we allow him to leave for Cambridge..........


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 24, 2021, 18:02:25 pm
The question is what will KT do when it becomes v clear he’s getting nothing from the council?
My guess is administration!

Keep guessing by all means but take my advice DO NOT consider a career as a professional gambler.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 24, 2021, 18:23:52 pm
LB RB and one CB for me & I think they'd be done?

Kioso back on a full season long loan would be perfect, but i suspect he'll end up somewhere higher than league two?  >:(

Anything else would be as a result of forward outgoings?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 24, 2021, 18:39:58 pm
Jon Guthrie - defender from Livingstone I PRESUME
Page 50. Just saying


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on June 24, 2021, 18:41:20 pm
LB RB and one CB for me & I think they'd be done?

Kioso back on a full season long loan would be perfect, but i suspect he'll end up somewhere higher than league two?  >:(

Anything else would be as a result of forward outgoings?

Not sure we need another left back? Mills (i know he was injury prone) but we have pinnock and Harriman who can also play there.
Think we can use the remaining budget elsewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 18:42:38 pm
We’ve got too many ITK’s on here now, so my services are no longer required, take care chaps!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 18:44:51 pm
Page 50. Just saying

player moved to Scotland from English lower league then been released/transfer listed = cobblers signing


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 24, 2021, 19:02:29 pm
We’ve got too many ITK’s on here now, so my services are no longer required, take care chaps!
No don't go it was a lucky stab in the dark


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 24, 2021, 19:03:41 pm
John Guthrie -
as hinted in all my clues ending with “folks” 2 weeks ago
good signing and best yet


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 24, 2021, 19:05:31 pm
We’ve got too many ITK’s on here now, so my services are no longer required, take care chaps!

No we don't. You're the only one that knows your stuff and ALL the information is spot on.  

Keep it coming and the clues, I promise I'll do better next time, hopefully.    


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 24, 2021, 19:45:15 pm
John Guthrie -
as hinted in all my clues ending with “folks” 2 weeks ago
good signing and best yet

Clutching at straws comes to mind…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 24, 2021, 19:52:38 pm
No we don't. You're the only one that knows your stuff and ALL the information is spot on.  

Keep it coming and the clues, I promise I'll do better next time, hopefully.    

With the message preceding NTFC Lad its ironic that he is browned off with the know all's. He gives notice of an incoming and all we do is hound him for clues. Several go over the top with their expert analysis on players they have probably never seen play. Then there is the doomsters who cant help themselves ::). Am glad by common consent signed a decent replacement for Jones. Still not sure on goal scorers and midfielders who can pass although the Hull guy Flores might be the answer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 19:52:50 pm
I posted on here pages ago that I thought we would sign some new players before the next season started.

As usual I’ve been proved 100% correct.

Can I ask that you all show admiration towards me folks !!!

I have also heard that there may be more signings to come….

No names , no clues  ;D ;D ;D

There may be some on here (ntfclad) actually he’s the only one who is more accurate as regards names etc but I’m still number one ….

Blah , blah , blah  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 19:55:51 pm
Oh and the next player through the door will have at least one vowel in his name……  folks  ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on June 24, 2021, 20:11:22 pm
With the message preceding NTFC Lad its ironic that he is browned off with the know all's. He gives notice of an incoming and all we do is hound him for clues. Several go over the top with their expert analysis on players they have probably never seen play. Then there is the doomsters who cant help themselves ::). Am glad by common consent signed a decent replacement for Jones. Still not sure on goal scorers and midfielders who can pass although the Hull guy Flores might be the answer.

To be fair my post was tongue in cheek, and I don’t mind the questions. Some I can’t answer, some I won’t! I’m usually told not to name names so avoid giving them out. The ones I can answer I try to


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 24, 2021, 20:19:13 pm
Guthrie is the first signing that seems to have joined with any credit from former clubs!

Welcome!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 24, 2021, 20:24:05 pm
Oh and the next player through the door will have at least one vowel in his name……  folks  ;D



Not if he's from Finland


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 20:28:12 pm
Not if he's from Finland
He’s not (probably)  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 24, 2021, 20:39:11 pm
Oh and the next player through the door will have at least one vowel in his name……  folks  ;D



Looking forward to us signing Cardiff's Ng next then.  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 24, 2021, 20:44:53 pm
Looking forward to us signing Cardiff's Ng next then.  :)
;D ;D

pErry ng ??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 24, 2021, 20:46:31 pm
Oh and the next player through the door will have at least one vowel in his name……  folks  ;D



Refer to page 6. Boot and Shoes cryptic post seems to hint the 9th signing of the summer has a vowel in their name.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 24, 2021, 20:55:01 pm
Clutching at straws comes to mind…

i am sure i mentioned something about this land being your land , this land is my land over a week ago ….
Before it was on twitter … folks


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 24, 2021, 21:12:39 pm
;D ;D

pErry ng ??

You didn't specify that we had to include his first name!  ;D

Anyway, when he does sign next, and makes his first mistake down at Sixseats, the usual suspects won't stand up and yell "Perry,  you're s**t!" will they?

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 21:57:50 pm
Keep guessing by all means but take my advice DO NOT consider a career as a professional gambler.
I once sat next to a professional gambler in business on a flight from Las Vegas back to Heathrow, v interesting stuff he was playing Poker and had just cleared $250k and was pissed off. He offered to teach me the basics of the art of winning, I politely declined and tucked into my fillet steak.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 25, 2021, 08:13:58 am
We’ve got too many ITK’s on here now, so my services are no longer required, take care chaps!
We have one ITK who is consistent, and several people who post guesses from twitter and occasionally get one right.
Also you just post what you know without arrogance. Others in the past have made a massive deal about 'being on the inside' and how amazing they are


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on June 25, 2021, 08:28:27 am
I think Jon Guthrie probably the best signing of the summer so far personally

Would have welcomed him last year in L1, I think hell do well at L2 and be a leader in the dressing room

Maybe one more CB and some depth at FB and we're looking closer to a full squad


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest1269 on June 25, 2021, 10:08:48 am
I once sat next to a professional gambler in business on a flight from Las Vegas back to Heathrow, v interesting stuff he was playing Poker and had just cleared $250k and was pissed off. He offered to teach me the basics of the art of winning, I politely declined and tucked into my fillet steak.

Scientific winning at poker is possible but incredibly boring- far better off with your steak - hope the flight was Virgin - best Business Class to the UK in my opinion


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 25, 2021, 10:50:26 am
Never flown Virgin, but the best business and first class from the other direction has got to be Singapore Airlines.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 25, 2021, 11:07:45 am
To be fair my post was tongue in cheek, and I don’t mind the questions. Some I can’t answer, some I won’t! I’m usually told not to name names so avoid giving them out. The ones I can answer I try to

I admire your patience with those who appear to think they are messengers from the Gods!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on June 25, 2021, 11:20:10 am
The recent pages seem to be rather good humoured, quite why you feel it necessary to take a swipe beats me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2021, 11:29:08 am
The recent pages seem to be rather good humoured, quite why you feel it necessary to take a swipe beats me.

Agreed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 25, 2021, 11:34:27 am
The recent pages seem to be rather good humoured, quite why you feel it necessary to take a swipe beats me.

Ha Ha it’s you again must mean you never miss the opportunity. Good humoured you are not!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 25, 2021, 11:46:13 am
In a nutshell....
Some people just don't like people being in the know. FOMO.
Some people don't like people in the know being smart ars*s "I know something you don't"
They don't like people pretending to be in the know that aren't.
They don't like people making cr*p up or have no sense of humour.
Some people like finding stuff out on the internet that hasn't been reported elsewhere - that's me  ;D
The vast majority get the news from official channels, based on the reports here, usually about an hour after someone is named. That's also me.

Chill out...we have a new development to look forward to  ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on June 25, 2021, 11:55:57 am
Air Koryo offers a business class out of the league of any that have been mentioned.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 25, 2021, 11:56:43 am
In a nutshell....
Some people just don't like people being in the know. FOMO.
Some people don't like people in the know being smart ars*s "I know something you don't"
They don't like people pretending to be in the know that aren't.
They don't like people making cr*p up or have no sense of humour.
Some people like finding stuff out on the internet that hasn't been reported elsewhere - that's me  ;D
The vast majority get the news from official channels, based on the reports here, usually about an hour after someone is named. That's also me.

Chill out...we have a new development to look forward to  ;D



Love it - well done for the effort!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 25, 2021, 12:02:23 pm
Scientific winning at poker is possible but incredibly boring- far better off with your steak - hope the flight was Virgin - best Business Class to the UK in my opinion
How bizarre, it was Virgin, they call it Upper Class 😂.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 25, 2021, 12:10:02 pm
Never flown Virgin, but the best business and first class from the other direction has got to be Singapore Airlines.
I have a BA gold card and obviously always flew BA, everyone was telling me to fly Singapore, so on my last business trip to Australia I bit the bullet and went Singapore, ridiculous wide seat BUT you have to squeeze your legs into a small box in the back of the seat in front which I found most uncomfortable TBH.
BA lie flat beds are the best I’ve tried, better than Lufthansa, Emirates, American etc, I could also wright a book on how uncomfortable BAs old premium economy is, prefer economy.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on June 25, 2021, 12:20:55 pm
I have a BA gold card and obviously always flew BA, everyone was telling me to fly Singapore, so on my last business trip to Australia I bit the bullet and went Singapore, ridiculous wide seat BUT you have to squeeze your legs into a small box in the back of the seat in front which I found most uncomfortable TBH.
BA lie flat beds are the best I’ve tried, better than Lufthansa, Emirates, American etc, I could also wright a book on how uncomfortable BAs old premium economy is, prefer economy.   

yes i agree about the seats.
but as this is the transfer window page,
i like to transfer myself to first class to get away from business class as they are first class wannabee's.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 25, 2021, 12:29:54 pm
Qatar Airways business class beds are good, used to use them from the Middle East to SE Asia.
Used the BA premium economy when I could get into business flying to and from the Middle East, extra leg room, better seats and the kids got lots of goodies, but the best part was you got priority baggage tags, sure helped getting your stuff quick when you're dragging two young kids around.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 25, 2021, 12:31:18 pm
Air Koryo offers a business class out of the league of any that have been mentioned.

Do you mean a league lower?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 25, 2021, 12:38:54 pm
You business class w*nkers haven’t been flying anywhere much in a fart tube for a long time  ;D

Who are we signing next?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 25, 2021, 13:54:06 pm
You business class w*nkers haven’t been flying anywhere much in a fart tube for a long time  ;D

Who are we signing next?

Who else has had a half decent season in the Scottish Championship?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 25, 2021, 14:31:59 pm
Dunno about half decent season, more like who's out of contract on a free in Scotland. There was a link in the Kilmarnock to ANOTHER Kilmarnock player who was out of contract, and the fans also did not rate him whatsoever. I guess being relegated they wouldn't have rated most players though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 25, 2021, 15:01:14 pm
Dunno about half decent season, more like who's out of contract on a free in Scotland. There was a link in the Kilmarnock to ANOTHER Kilmarnock player who was out of contract, and the fans also did not rate him whatsoever. I guess being relegated they wouldn't have rated most players though.
Bit like us, the goalkeeper cost us the most.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on June 25, 2021, 16:28:09 pm
Air Koryo offers a business class out of the league of any that have been mentioned.

Indeed: their Business fare includes exec lounges on the ground, priority boarding, larger seat pitch, an upgraded in-flight "service" (used in the loosest sense) and a funeral plan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 25, 2021, 16:32:09 pm
Indeed: their Business fare includes exec lounges on the ground, priority boarding, larger seat pitch, an upgraded in-flight "service" (used in the loosest sense) and a funeral plan.

I thought they threw in comfy one cell accomodation and bonus cabbage leaves for dinner on arrival.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on June 25, 2021, 17:15:23 pm
I’ve flown to many places all over the world but only ever in economy. It does me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on June 25, 2021, 18:04:22 pm
I once got an upgrade to buisness class and boy did they regret it....I had most delicious wines aplenty and stretched out on my seat/bed and pissed myself..was it worth the shame...damn right it was!!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on June 25, 2021, 19:09:36 pm
I generally go in the cargo hold.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 25, 2021, 19:11:44 pm
I thought the same, especially how he throws himself with arms splayed. Still, if he has anything like the ability of (early) Adam Smith he'll be a vast improvement... actually, Smith at his worst was way better than what we have endured the last few seasons.

Especially against ManU  ::) 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 25, 2021, 19:44:33 pm
I once got an upgrade to buisness class and boy did they regret it....I had most delicious wines aplenty and stretched out on my seat/bed and pissed myself..was it worth the shame...damn right it was!!!!
I once had a flight from Honolulu back home. Crowded was the word. No luggage space, and very cramped. No leg room, 22 hours it took.
Via a refuelling stop in Seattle, another one in Frobisher Bay, they opened the doors to let some air in, kin ell that was cold, and again in Manchester.
Could have been that the fuel was cheaper in Manchester than Heathrow, I dont know. I was shattered when I got off that plane.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 25, 2021, 19:57:02 pm
One thing that I forgot to mention, It took two attempts to land at Frobisher bay , and on second try, the pilot slammed the brakes on, before the runway ended.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on June 25, 2021, 20:08:38 pm
I do enjoy reading the personas people adopt on here


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 25, 2021, 20:16:17 pm
I do enjoy reading the personas people adopt on here

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2021, 21:25:27 pm
The two lads who were offered to come for training have both decided not to take up the option of coming back for pre-season.
Morgan Roberts currently considering some offers from non-league clubs and Alex Jones sounds like his injuries have finished him.

Taken from the horses mouth today.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on June 25, 2021, 22:05:50 pm
The two lads who were offered to come for training have both decided not to take up the option of coming back for pre-season.
Morgan Roberts currently considering some offers from non-league clubs and Alex Jones sounds like his injuries have finished him.

Taken from the horses mouth today.
Real shame about Jones, he could definitely play.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 26, 2021, 06:20:03 am
The two lads who were offered to come for training have both decided not to take up the option of coming back for pre-season.
Morgan Roberts currently considering some offers from non-league clubs and Alex Jones sounds like his injuries have finished him.

Taken from the horses mouth today.

Probably a smart move from Roberts - if he did come back and we offered him something he'd likely remain a fringe player on peanuts.

If he can get a non-league contract now he'll probably still be on peanuts but will feature regularly and get the chance to build his career from there.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 26, 2021, 07:47:48 am
         
The squad is definitely taking shape. I think we'll probably be at the full compliment in terms of starts
after we sign a right back and (hopefully) a proper centre forward.

The interesting question for me is the system which Brady has in mind. His stated inclination towards two up front and his signing of traditional wingers point to a 4-4-2. Connolly and Pinnock strike me as conventional out-and-out wingers rather than 'inverted forwards' who could play wide in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. 4-4-2 might look like this:

                           Roberts

            New RB   Horsfall   Guthrie   Mills

                         
                  McWilliams (Sowerby) Lewis/Pollock
         Pinnock/Flores                       Connolly

                       
                     Kabamba/Chuks Rose/new CF


   On the other hand, at first glance Flores strikes me as a more positionally
   fluid attacking midfielder who might thrive in a 4-2-3-1. Pollock might also
   thrive in that kind of system.

   A lot depends on whether Brady adds to our foward line because at the moment
   I would struggle to name our starting pair if we went with 4-4-2.

   The midfield, however, looks to have a lot of strength in depth and I wonder if he might
   be tempted to play 4-2-3-1:

                                         Roberts
                   
                          New RB. Horsfall. Guthrie. Mills
       
                                   McWilliams   Sowerby

                            Flores.      Lewis/Pollock.   Connolly/Chuks

                                             New CF

      Our big wild card if he stays is Chuks. He has the pace and ability
      to scare L2 defences s***less but he will need to work massively
      on the pressing/defensive side of the game for Brady to trust him
      as a starter. I wonder if he might eventually end up playing as
      as a slightly deeper lying or wide forward as he seems to be at his best
      when breaking forward and running with the ball rather than receiving it
      with his back to goal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 26, 2021, 08:35:17 am
At a guess

Roberts

RB   Horsfall   Guthrie   Mills

McWilliams   Lewis

Pollock   Flores   Connolly

Kabamba


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 26, 2021, 08:44:38 am
You’ve both missed the first name on the team sheet off.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 26, 2021, 08:54:40 am
You’ve both missed the first name on the team sheet off.

?  ;D
Perhaps the poster has inside knowledge 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 26, 2021, 08:59:47 am
         
The squad is definitely taking shape. I think we'll probably be at the full compliment in terms of starts
after we sign a right back and (hopefully) a proper centre forward.

The interesting question for me is the system which Brady has in mind. His stated inclination towards two up front and his signing of traditional wingers point to a 4-4-2. Connolly and Pinnock strike me as conventional out-and-out wingers rather than 'inverted forwards' who could play wide in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. 4-4-2 might look like this:

                           Roberts

            New RB   Horsfall   Guthrie   Mills

                         
                  McWilliams (Sowerby) Lewis/Pollock
         Pinnock/Flores                       Connolly

                       
                     Kabamba/Chuks Rose/new CF


   On the other hand, at first glance Flores strikes me as a more positionally
   fluid attacking midfielder who might thrive in a 4-2-3-1. Pollock might also
   thrive in that kind of system.

   A lot depends on whether Brady adds to our foward line because at the moment
   I would struggle to name our starting pair if we went with 4-4-2.

   The midfield, however, looks to have a lot of strength in depth and I wonder if he might
   be tempted to play 4-2-3-1:

                                         Roberts
                   
                          New RB. Horsfall. Guthrie. Mills
       
                                   McWilliams   Sowerby

                            Flores.      Lewis/Pollock.   Connolly/Chuks

                                             New CF

      Our big wild card if he stays is Chuks. He has the pace and ability
      to scare L2 defences s***less but he will need to work massively
      on the pressing/defensive side of the game for Brady to trust him
      as a starter. I wonder if he might eventually end up playing as
      as a slightly deeper lying or wide forward as he seems to be at his best
      when breaking forward and running with the ball rather than receiving it
      with his back to goal.


Only thing Id ask, is why you've left out Harriman? A VERY decent player at league2 level and not bad at all in league1. Maybe you've just had a glitch and temporarily forgotten about him?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 26, 2021, 09:09:07 am
?  ;D
Perhaps the poster has inside knowledge 8)

I do, it’s a big secret. Although every manager has consistently picked Sammy for years.
Unless we are assuming he is packing his bags?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 26, 2021, 09:24:14 am
Only thing Id ask, is why you've left out Harriman? A VERY decent player at league2 level and not bad at all in league1. Maybe you've just had a glitch and temporarily forgotten about him?  ;D

Was thinking this myself, Harriman at L2 level is a very good option at RB.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on June 26, 2021, 09:25:33 am
Northampton Town are leading the race for Kabongo Tshimanga from Boreham Wood . The prolific striker scored 18 goals last term.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 26, 2021, 09:30:58 am
Northampton Town are leading the race for Kabongo Tshimanga from Boreham Wood . The prolific striker scored 18 goals last term.


Source? You heard anything about this ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on June 26, 2021, 09:51:09 am
Northampton Town are leading the race for Kabongo Tshimanga from Boreham Wood . The prolific striker scored 18 goals last term.


The lad has said he wants to leave and subsequently he’s about to move to every single L2 club. The world of Twitterdom seem to have Orient, Carlisle and Bradford as the favourites.
It would be a fab signing if we could get him but I’m not holding my breathe!

Just read on Twitter that Dai Cornell has joined the Pish on loan!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on June 26, 2021, 10:12:41 am
Cornell is a free agent after being released at the end of the season, so would be free to sign on a permanent deal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on June 26, 2021, 10:22:13 am
Only thing Id ask, is why you've left out Harriman? A VERY decent player at league2 level and not bad at all in league1. Maybe you've just had a glitch and temporarily forgotten about him?  ;D

Good point - yes I must confess I'd completely forgotten about him! I agree that he's more than competent at L2 level and at 28 should still have the legs to be a starter.

In that case we probably just need to sign a utility back up defender who can cover the full backs and possibly do a job at cb if required.

Re: Sammy - he's pretty much the definition of an ideal L2 squad player: can play virtually every position, rarely gets injured and will run his bollocks off. I think the abundance of signings in wide areas suggest that Hoskins would have to go it some to claim his usual starting berth this year, but who knows?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 26, 2021, 10:26:24 am
Real shame about Jones, he could definitely play.

I thought he looked very good the few times he cameon last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on June 26, 2021, 10:37:38 am
Good point - yes I must confess I'd completely forgotten about him! I agree that he's more than competent at L2 level and at 28 should still have the legs to be a starter.

In that case we probably just need to sign a utility back up defender who can cover the full backs and possibly do a job at cb if required.

Re: Sammy - he's pretty much the definition of an ideal L2 squad player: can play virtually every position, rarely gets injured and will run his bollocks off. I think the abundance of signings in wide areas suggest that Hoskins would have to go it some to claim his usual starting berth this year, but who knows?



Ha ha, thought so!

I also reckon we need a utility back up defender, as well as another specialist centre back. We'd then have 4 players who could play in the full back positions (McWilliams is good there), and 3 centre backs plus young Max.

That would leave us with a squad of around 21/22 plus the kids who are on pro contracts who have yet to play.

I think any other 'shopping' would be dependent on players leaving, and then being replaced.

As for Hoskins, unless we get a stupid offer for him (150k plus) Id be very disappointed if we were to cash in. He rarely gets injured, can cover all over the pitch, chips in with some goals and assists etc. Those type of players are at a premium at our level, without a doubt in my mind he's the most under appreciated player we've had in many a year!



 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on June 26, 2021, 11:19:45 am
Northampton Town are leading the race for Kabongo Tshimanga from Boreham Wood . The prolific striker scored 18 goals last term.


Some Twitter page,  wont happen IMHO


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 26, 2021, 11:25:30 am
Northampton Town are leading the race for Kabongo Tshimanga from Boreham Wood . The prolific striker scored 18 goals last term.

Yeah, Leon Lobjoit scored 52 in a season for Buckingham. 2016.
And where has he ended up?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 26, 2021, 11:47:57 am
Interesting that all of our outfield new signings have been given 2 year contracts but the 2 'keepers only get 1 year. Does this indicate we have missed out on our first choice targets who would have got a longer contract?.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 26, 2021, 11:53:33 am
Some Twitter page,  wont happen IMHO

But if Harry Smith goes we will have to get another centre forward. Hopefully it's BAS instead!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 26, 2021, 12:27:46 pm
Yeah, Leon Lobjoit scored 52 in a season for Buckingham. 2016.
And where has he ended up?

Buckingham play at level 10 I believe, Boreham Wood play in the league below League Two…
Tshimanga looks exactly the type of striker that Boro would go for.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 26, 2021, 12:42:25 pm
Buckingham play at level 10 I believe, Boreham Wood play in the league below League Two…
Tshimanga looks exactly the type of striker that Boro would go for.
That is why they are playing in the championship next season and we are in league two.
I’ve said we should copy their game plan as ours sure hasn’t worked.

At least we now have an infrastructure in place but the proof of the pudding will be in who we actually sign to score the goals…..

My guess is we will still go down the free transfer / loan route and if that’s the case it’ll make all the spin regards identity and infrastructure look like a load of old piffle.

We’ve got the right people in (carr / calderwood etc) now for the bit that costs money.

That’s the bit that we fall down on and Peterborough don’t.

Let’s see if there’s any actual ambition this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 26, 2021, 15:58:33 pm
David Cornell on trial at Peterborough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 26, 2021, 16:08:51 pm
David Cornell on trial at Peterborough.

Old news. I see it's already been mentioned.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 26, 2021, 17:09:02 pm
David Cornell on trial at Peterborough.
If it’s for being a shít goalkeeper he’ll be found guilty.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on June 26, 2021, 19:46:44 pm
Hell Manny, lets just say you are occasionally controversial, but you do make me chuckle sometimes!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on June 26, 2021, 21:48:02 pm
That is why they are playing in the championship next season and we are in league two.
I’ve said we should copy their game plan as ours sure hasn’t worked.

At least we now have an infrastructure in place but the proof of the pudding will be in who we actually sign to score the goals…..

My guess is we will still go down the free transfer / loan route and if that’s the case it’ll make all the spin regards identity and infrastructure look like a load of old piffle.

We’ve got the right people in (carr / calderwood etc) now for the bit that costs money.

That’s the bit that we fall down on and Peterborough don’t.

Let’s see if there’s any actual ambition this season.

As the P*sh now have Cornell on trial it looks like they are copying our game plan! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 26, 2021, 21:53:37 pm
As the P*sh now have Cornell on trial it looks like they are copying our game plan! ;D ;D ;D

If we’d kept him we’d still be in league one. FACT  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on June 26, 2021, 22:02:21 pm
If we’d kept him we’d still be in league one. FACT  ;D

Hopefully he can help take P*sh into League 1  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 26, 2021, 22:43:15 pm
If it’s for being a shít goalkeeper he’ll be found guilty.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 27, 2021, 07:07:25 am

My guess is we will still go down the free transfer / loan route and if that’s the case it’ll make all the spin regards identity and infrastructure look like a load of old piffle.


We paid fees for a number of players last year, Sowerby, Rose, BAS etc. who were all very poor. It’s about getting the right players not whether they are loans, free or bought, Oliver (free) Morton (loan) did ok to name a couple.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 07:24:15 am
We paid fees for a number of players last year, Sowerby, Rose, BAS etc. who were all very poor. It’s about getting the right players not whether they are loans, free or bought, Oliver (free) Morton (loan) did ok to name a couple.
Imo there’s no comparison
Posh do things properly and speculate to accumulate (the onus being on strikers who make the most money)
Britt asombalonga was purchased for a record fee and sold on for 6 million
Dwight Gayle £500,000-£4.5 million
Toney bought and sold for massive profit
Clarke Harris bought for a million and will no doubt be sold for many more.

I’m sure there are many more.

The difference is that they are spending proper money in order to make things work….
We are spending 50k on Harry smith etc,an expenditure of roughly 10% of the posh model.

To give an example if posh had signed Callum Morton on loan they’d have put cash on the table and made the deal permanent in order to make a few million.

We didn’t and signed Ryan edmondson on loan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 27, 2021, 07:45:34 am

To give an example if posh had signed Callum Morton on loan they’d have put cash on the table and made the deal permanent in order to make a few million.



So we could sell him to Cheltenham for £10m  ;D

You make good comparisons but sadly comparing us to P*sh these days is like comparing P*sh to Man City.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 27, 2021, 07:59:45 am
Imo there’s no comparison
Posh do things properly and speculate to accumulate (the onus being on strikers who make the most money)
Britt asombalonga was purchased for a record fee and sold on for 6 million
Dwight Gayle £500,000-£4.5 million
Toney bought and sold for massive profit
Clarke Harris bought for a million and will no doubt be sold for many more.

I’m sure there are many more.

The difference is that they are spending proper money in order to make things work….
We are spending 50k on Harry smith etc,an expenditure of roughly 10% of the posh model.

To give an example if posh had signed Callum Morton on loan they’d have put cash on the table and made the deal permanent in order to make a few million.

We didn’t and signed Ryan edmondson on loan


I don’t necessarily disagree but the whole Peterborough model started with a good youth policy that was able to produce the likes of Davies and Ethrington. If you then have money to invest, have good scouting so you have more hits than misses, are confident enough to offer long contracts while not getting stuck with duds and are able to get top money for your players then it will work.
It can’t be that easy because I can’t think of other clubs at our level that have invested to the same level as Peterborough with the same success.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 27, 2021, 08:02:13 am
The Sky sports app mentions Rangers are after Chucks, I blame Manwork!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 08:18:57 am
So we could sell him to Cheltenham for £10m  ;D

You make good comparisons but sadly comparing us to P*sh these days is like comparing P*sh to Man City.
Very true and how has that happened??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2021, 08:25:29 am
Big Ron Manager showcasing them to a multi millionaire.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 27, 2021, 08:32:19 am
Just now the efl zone have said northampton are after  kabongo tshimanga, with leyton orient and Hartlepool the others.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on June 27, 2021, 08:42:07 am
Very true and how has that happened??

Tons of reasons:
- Wealthier chairman…complete with questionable past business dealings.
- More forward thinking council.
- More successful managers.
- Bigger ground.
- Increased investment in players.

Can’t comment on the day to day professionalism and info structure but can probably assume it is next level.
Despite this they have struggled to establish themselves as a Championship team and their first time back since 2013. I’m sure their fans moan about flogging the likes of Toney. I think this demonstrates how far away we are from reaching it. It’s possible though as shown by the likes of Wycombe. Staying there is a whole new challenge.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 09:13:45 am
Tons of reasons:
- Wealthier chairman…complete with questionable past business dealings.
- More forward thinking council.
- More successful managers.
- Bigger ground.
- Increased investment in players.

Can’t comment on the day to day professionalism and info structure but can probably assume it is next level.
Despite this they have struggled to establish themselves as a Championship team and their first time back since 2013. I’m sure their fans moan about flogging the likes of Toney. I think this demonstrates how far away we are from reaching it. It’s possible though as shown by the likes of Wycombe. Staying there is a whole new challenge.
+1

They’ve left us so far behind that our rivalry will soon be consigned to history….
Our future local derby is more likely to be brackley unfortunately.

Sad but true


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 09:27:39 am
Just now the efl zone have said northampton are after  kabongo tshimanga, with leyton orient and Hartlepool the others.
Now this signing would be acceptable
It would show a bit of ambition to replicate the proven posh formula

However I doubt we will speculate ,instead relying on our free transfer journeyman and unproven youth loans approach that has served us so well ::)

Here’s hoping for a bright new dawn under KTs new management conglomerate.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 27, 2021, 09:44:01 am
Come on man, give your head a wobble. 'Brackley will be our biggest local rivals', FFS. Get some perspective in life please. Posh have a great model becaus they're lucky enough to have an owner who can spend some cash. However, it's not Championship cash or championship crowds, so we will be playing in the same league as them within 5 years, I have absolutely no doubt.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 10:18:45 am
Come on man, give your head a wobble. 'Brackley will be our biggest local rivals', FFS. Get some perspective in life please. Posh have a great model becaus they're lucky enough to have an owner who can spend some cash. However, it's not Championship cash or championship crowds, so we will be playing in the same league as them within 5 years, I have absolutely no doubt.
Posh are two leagues above us
Brackley two leagues below

We are a million miles away from being able to compete with Peterborough and other championship sides having been left behind,but brackley are only a thousand miles away from being able to compete financially with us and other league two clubs.

Posh by JCH for a million
We buy the likes of smith for £50k
Brackley must be able to buy players for 10/20k at a guess (I’m sure someone must know)

That’s my analogy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 27, 2021, 11:07:03 am

We are a million miles away from being able to compete with Peterborough and other championship sides having been left behind,but brackley are only a thousand miles away from being able to compete financially with us and other league two clubs.
Brackley must be able to buy players for 10/20k at a guess (I’m sure someone must know)
Compete with us, and other league two clubs? Have you ever been there? Nice enough day out, but football league standard, no way.
And a population of 13 thousand. I can recall what happened at Nene park.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on June 27, 2021, 11:40:32 am
Various rumours from efl hub :-
We are interested in defender Jordan Thomas
Together with Walsall and Bradford we are interested in ex Bristol Rovers midfielder Ed Upson
We are also interested in Oldham midfielder Dylan Bahamboula, so are Portsmouth.
Perhaps ntfclad could indicate if any of these are true.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 27, 2021, 11:41:26 am
Would be very happy if we were in for Tshimanga. Nearly a goal every 2 games over the last 2 league seasons. Boreham played 3412 and would say he definitely needs a partner as he wins nothing in the air. But he puts the ball in the net and has some real pace, could be the near 20 goal a season scorer we still need.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on June 27, 2021, 11:42:05 am
Various rumours from efl hub :-
We are interested in defender Jordan Thomas
Together with Walsall and Bradford we are interested in ex Bristol Rovers midfielder Ed Upson
We are also interested in Oldham midfielder Dylan Bahamboula, so are Portsmouth.
Perhaps ntfclad could indicate if any of these are true.

Ed Upson signed for newport 6 days ago.....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on June 27, 2021, 12:56:53 pm
Posh are two leagues above us
Brackley two leagues below

We are a million miles away from being able to compete with Peterborough and other championship sides having been left behind,but brackley are only a thousand miles away from being able to compete financially with us and other league two clubs.

Posh by JCH for a million
We buy the likes of smith for £50k
Brackley must be able to buy players for 10/20k at a guess (I’m sure someone must know)

That’s my analogy

Surely a better analogy is Rushden and Diamonds. Very ambitious clu b,paying large wages,
.owner then decided to move on and transferred it for a minimal amount to the supporters Trust.They then went from strength to strength.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 27, 2021, 13:47:18 pm
Surely a better analogy is Rushden and Diamonds. Very ambitious clu b,paying large wages,
.owner then decided to move on and transferred it for a minimal amount to the supporters Trust.They then went from strength to strength.
Fûck me there’s simplifying a situation and what you’ve just tried to type, there were a lot more extraneous factors that meant it went tîts up than just because it was transferred to fan ownership FFS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 27, 2021, 14:01:29 pm
Surely a better analogy is Rushden and Diamonds. Very ambitious clu b,paying large wages,
.owner then decided to move on and transferred it for a minimal amount to the supporters Trust.They then went from strength to strength.
You may be right there

My one hope is that now the club have gone to the effort of getting a decent back room staff in place (all of which costs money) they now take the plunge and speculate to accumulate.

I’ve said many times that imo the current owners have a massive catchment area in northants and lots of extra fans would come to watch if they think the on field project is to their liking.

I know others laugh at me (as is their prerogative) but if the right ambition was shown and the owners had the financial clout/backing then this club could be in the championship playing in a 16/20 thousand stadium and selling out within five years.

I’ve no idea where the club lies in the current owners list of priorities and I may have claret specs on but I can’t help think that although they may be blinded by land deals (the complexities of which are beyond me) they may be missing a trick in that they actually own a football club with so much potential that itself could be built up and sold for vast profit if the will was there.

Luton town have flown by us to the championship and I know which of the two clubs has more potential and it’s not Luton.

The land deal may be at the forefront of the current owners (I really don’t know) but if they make their money and sell the club on without first investing in it to sell on as it’s own entity then they’re losing out on another potential windfall imo.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 27, 2021, 16:25:34 pm
Various rumours from efl hub :-
We are interested in defender Jordan Thomas
Together with Walsall and Bradford we are interested in ex Bristol Rovers midfielder Ed Upson
We are also interested in Oldham midfielder Dylan Bahamboula, so are Portsmouth.
Perhaps ntfclad could indicate if any of these are true.

EFL hub  ;D They haven't updated anything since 20th May. So, I wouldn't trust anything they've mentioned.

EFL Zone is probably a better place to look.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 27, 2021, 20:05:21 pm
The two lads who were offered to come for training have both decided not to take up the option of coming back for pre-season.
Morgan Roberts currently considering some offers from non-league clubs and Alex Jones sounds like his injuries have finished him.

Taken from the horses mouth today.

Alex Jones is only 26. I would have thought he would give pre-season training a go, if given a chance. More likely the club have said no and are exploring other options.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on June 27, 2021, 20:09:23 pm
Imo there’s no comparison
Posh do things properly and speculate to accumulate (the onus being on strikers who make the most money)
Britt asombalonga was purchased for a record fee and sold on for 6 million
Dwight Gayle £500,000-£4.5 million
Toney bought and sold for massive profit
Clarke Harris bought for a million and will no doubt be sold for many more.

I’m sure there are many more.

The difference is that they are spending proper money in order to make things work….
We are spending 50k on Harry smith etc,an expenditure of roughly 10% of the posh model.

To give an example if posh had signed Callum Morton on loan they’d have put cash on the table and made the deal permanent in order to make a few million.

We didn’t and signed Ryan edmondson on loan


We did put money on the table for Callum Morton, West Brom weren't selling.
Go and support the P*sh and be happy, your admiration knows no bounds as we see by your numerous posts, no doubt typed with those  little six fingered hands! ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 27, 2021, 22:38:35 pm
Go through the leagues and pick out clubs who are punching above their weight after significant development? Derby, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Wigan, Blackburn, MK plastics, the list of who isn’t goes on and on. Of course there are short term current exceptions and there always will be. The bottom line is that generally speaking teams will return to the level they have historically been at the most. Peterborough will almost certainly end up a league 1-2 club. It shouldn’t stop you trying otherwise what’s the point and a few seasons in the championship would be nice, but don’t be thinking they’ve disappeared over the horizon for ever, not a cat in hell’s chance. Statistically speaking they will end up right back where they started, probably when the current chairman moves on and I challenge anyone to demonstrate that theory is statistically flawed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 28, 2021, 06:04:22 am
Go through the leagues and pick out clubs who are punching above their weight after significant development? Derby, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Wigan, Blackburn, MK plastics, the list of who isn’t goes on and on. Of course there are short term current exceptions and there always will be. The bottom line is that generally speaking teams will return to the level they have historically been at the most. Peterborough will almost certainly end up a league 1-2 club. It shouldn’t stop you trying otherwise what’s the point and a few seasons in the championship would be nice, but don’t be thinking they’ve disappeared over the horizon for ever, not a cat in hell’s chance. Statistically speaking they will end up right back where they started, probably when the current chairman moves on and I challenge anyone to demonstrate that theory is statistically flawed.
Burnley


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 28, 2021, 08:32:55 am
Burnley are 1 or 2 bad managerial appointments away from the bottom of the championship tbf but have done extremely well under Dyche's stewardship


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 08:48:31 am
Bournemouth, Swansea, Brentford, Luton and even Fulham are teams we used to play regularly in the bottom two leagues and have now escaped and are regulars in the top two tiers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Battery Man on June 28, 2021, 08:58:49 am
Bournemouth, Swansea, Brentford, Luton and even Fulham are teams we used to play regularly in the bottom two leagues and have now escaped and are regulars in the top two tiers.

of those Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth have or had big money owners but i take your point about Swansea and Luton. Swansea have also got a fantastic ground, not sure if that was down to them or their council.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 28, 2021, 09:07:58 am
of those Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth have or had big money owners but i take your point about Swansea and Luton. Swansea have also got a fantastic ground, not sure if that was down to them or their council.

Believe it was the council, and was agreed at a similar time to the original Sixfields development


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 09:09:10 am
of those Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth have or had big money owners but i take your point about Swansea and Luton. Swansea have also got a fantastic ground, not sure if that was down to them or their council.

Council.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 28, 2021, 09:12:57 am
of those Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth have or had big money owners but i take your point about Swansea and Luton. Swansea have also got a fantastic ground, not sure if that was down to them or their council.


Swansea also have big overseas backers and the ground was built by a council/developer consortium.
Luton have to be the biggest yo-yo club there is from being in the Prem and winning the League CUp to dropping back to non-league and back again.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 28, 2021, 09:51:45 am
Swansea also have big overseas backers and the ground was built by a council/developer consortium.
Luton have to be the biggest yo-yo club there is from being in the Prem and winning the League Cup to dropping back to non-league and back again.

Don't they share their ground with egg chasers?

Brentford, Swansea, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Coventry, Huddersfield etc.  All council initiated stadiums with added private finance to provide a suitable home for the their sporting clubs.

Its our council that's Jewson south west league.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on June 28, 2021, 09:56:02 am
Don't they share their ground with egg chasers?

Brentford, Swansea, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Coventry, Huddersfield etc.  All council initiated stadiums with added private finance to provide a suitable home for the their sporting clubs.

Its our council that's Jewson south west league.

Yes and other events as well.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on June 28, 2021, 11:09:20 am
Don't they share their ground with egg chasers?

Brentford, Swansea, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Coventry, Huddersfield etc.  All council initiated stadiums with added private finance to provide a suitable home for the their sporting clubs.

Its our council that's Jewson south west league.

They share their ground with The Ospreys Rugby Union Club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 28, 2021, 11:28:53 am
Anything happening today ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BrixworthCobbler on June 28, 2021, 11:30:40 am
There were also many others we used to play who are now in the National Leagues or not even in existence


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 28, 2021, 11:46:03 am
Yes and other events as well.

If we shared with the Saints we would have a 15,000 capacity and boxes already done


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 28, 2021, 11:50:50 am
If we shared with the Saints we would have a 15,000 capacity and boxes already done
Never going to happen, for so many reasons.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 11:55:52 am
If we shared with the Saints we would have a 15,000 capacity and boxes already done
I know it’s a real shame, the gardens would be perfect size for us going forward.
Sixseats is a pathetic looking ground, it needs major investment, now what could enable that to happen?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on June 28, 2021, 12:08:58 pm
I know it’s a real shame, the gardens would be perfect size for us going forward.
Sixseats is a pathetic looking ground, it needs major investment, now what could enable that to happen?

A loan from Cardoza?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on June 28, 2021, 12:22:02 pm
Don't the club normally put out a list of players that are available for free transfers?

Assume there are a few that have been told they wont get much game time...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 12:22:47 pm
A loan from Cardoza?
He’s already done that with the Bushey boys?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on June 28, 2021, 12:27:59 pm
If we shared with the Saints we would have a 15,000 capacity and boxes already done

I think Keith Barwell wanted the two clubs to share Sixfields and turn it into a 25,000 seater stadium but the Council wouldn't sell.
Then a few years later they sold the lease to the Cardozas.

Cr**ks 1 Visionaries 0  :(

In Swansea the Football club, the Rugby club and the Council have a third share each.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 28, 2021, 12:42:56 pm
Another thread that's turned into the Redevelopment thread  ::) 

What has our ground got to do with new signings and rumours  ??? 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 28, 2021, 12:45:30 pm
Don't the club normally put out a list of players that are available for free transfers?
Assume there are a few that have been told they wont get much game time...

Think the only two players we would want a fee for would be Smith and Hoksins, although I think we would be daft to let Sammy go now we are back in L2.

Smith will hopefully find a new suitor, just hasn't worked out here for either party.

Possibly (or hopefully) they would be looking to move on BAS and Sowerby but who knows what JB has planned.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on June 28, 2021, 13:53:18 pm
Think the only two players we would want a fee for would be Smith and Hoksins, although I think we would be daft to let Sammy go now we are back in L2.

Smith will hopefully find a new suitor, just hasn't worked out here for either party.

Possibly (or hopefully) they would be looking to move on BAS and Sowerby but who knows what JB has planned.

I wouldn't mind Smith staying, he has more to him than BAS.

As others have said Hoskins will be invaluable this season as he can play a number of positions and always gives 100%


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on June 28, 2021, 14:33:37 pm
who's the lad in the training photo's turning BAS and then being hurdled by Kabamba?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 28, 2021, 14:59:33 pm
who's the lad in the training photo's turning BAS and then being hurdled by Kabamba?

Good question. Maybe a youth team lad? I notice photos of most players. One player missing was Harry Smith, he could still be coming back from injury though and working out in a different way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on June 28, 2021, 15:03:11 pm
Good question. Maybe a youth team lad? I notice photos of most players. One player missing was Harry Smith, he could still be coming back from injury though and working out in a different way.
Probably right that he isn't ready for on field stuff yet? He was in Fridays pictures.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 28, 2021, 15:38:40 pm
Think the only two players we would want a fee for would be Smith and Hoksins, although I think we would be daft to let Sammy go now we are back in L2.

Smith will hopefully find a new suitor, just hasn't worked out here for either party.

Possibly (or hopefully) they would be looking to move on BAS and Sowerby but who knows what JB has planned.

I don't think this is true - football clubs will nearly always try to at least recoup part of the transfer fee paid for a player. So whilst Ashley-Seal has been very disappointing they likely wont let him walk for nothing. Can't quite believe you wouldn't expect significant fees for Horsfall, McWilliams or Chuk!

Also I think people are overly critical of Sowerby, at times he played well. We should see improved versions of him, Mills, Rose etc. this year as they will likely know they underperformed and will want to put it right.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 28, 2021, 15:52:25 pm
I wouldn't mind Smith staying, he has more to him than BAS.

As others have said Hoskins will be invaluable this season as he can play a number of positions and always gives 100%

Having signed a number of wingers, we also have Kabamba, Chucks, Smith, Hoskins, BAS & Rose on the books as strikers. That is a lot of the wage budget tied up there for some players that are going to struggle to get a game, for me it makes sense to offload a couple to strengthen elsewhere and have a more balanced squad but we will need interest from other teams to move players on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 28, 2021, 16:08:35 pm
who's the lad in the training photo's turning BAS and then being hurdled by Kabamba?
Great spot. He's not the three youth teamers who have signed pros this year, and it's not Tshimanga before anyone asks either. Not sure who it is.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 28, 2021, 16:16:03 pm
Great spot. He's not the three youth teamers who have signed pros this year, and it's not Tshimanga before anyone asks either. Not sure who it is.

Still could be a youth team player, just not one of the three that signed pro deals. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 28, 2021, 16:19:35 pm
I don't think this is true - football clubs will nearly always try to at least recoup part of the transfer fee paid for a player. So whilst Ashley-Seal has been very disappointing they likely wont let him walk for nothing. Can't quite believe you wouldn't expect significant fees for Horsfall, McWilliams or Chuk!

Also I think people are overly critical of Sowerby, at times he played well. We should see improved versions of him, Mills, Rose etc. this year as they will likely know they underperformed and will want to put it right.

I agree with you about Horsfall, McWilliams & Chuks though think the club would count their loses with BAS, let him go for free and move on.

As for Sowerby, Mills & Rose, they were three of the poorer players in a team not good enough to stay in league one. For me they are bang average league 2 players, if we want to get promoted we will need quality around them, unless they dramatically improve they don’t look the difference makers for us to go up.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on June 28, 2021, 16:25:19 pm
I agree with you about Horsfall, McWilliams & Chuks though think the club would count their loses with BAS, let him go for free and move on.

As for Sowerby, Mills & Rose, they were three of the poorer players in a team not good enough to stay in league one. For me they are bang average league 2 players, if we want to get promoted we will need quality around them, unless they dramatically improve they don’t look the difference makers for us to go up.

loan the deadwood out - BAS needs a full season playing somewhere else - he isnt the only one


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 16:42:02 pm
loan the deadwood out - BAS needs a full season playing somewhere else - he isnt the only one
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/september/ashley_seal/
Loan him out to get him off the wage bill.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 28, 2021, 17:02:42 pm
Burnley
Short term will end up Div 1/Championship


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 28, 2021, 17:07:10 pm
Bournemouth, Swansea, Brentford, Luton and even Fulham are teams we used to play regularly in the bottom two leagues and have now escaped and are regulars in the top two tiers.
Swansea maybe, still think the odds are weighted in my favour though. Clubs always return to their level eventually, look at the mighty Gers, get out of that?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 28, 2021, 17:32:33 pm
I don't know if this has already been mentioned, Mark Little has signed for Yeovil Town. It was suggested on here that he could be about to sign for us.

David Cornell about to sign a deal at Peterborough according to reports.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on June 28, 2021, 18:28:43 pm
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/september/ashley_seal/
Loan him out to get him off the wage bill.

This is likely to attract controversy, but...

Having watched that scout report closely (as is possible given the camera shots!), I personally think that there are some great movements in the box for BAS to get goals, combined with a couple of driving runs, and goals with both feet.

Given service in an attack minded side, I think he could be a handful. Please let's not write him off yet.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 28, 2021, 18:36:01 pm
I don't think this is true - football clubs will nearly always try to at least recoup part of the transfer fee paid for a player. So whilst Ashley-Seal has been very disappointing they likely wont let him walk for nothing. Can't quite believe you wouldn't expect significant fees for Horsfall, McWilliams or Chuk!
Also I think people are overly critical of Sowerby, at times he played well. We should see improved versions of him, Mills, Rose etc. this year as they will likely know they underperformed and will want to put it right.

I wasn't very clear, I meant players that we should get rid of or who have had interest already.

No way I would want any of those you listed to leave, even if for a tidy sum!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 28, 2021, 19:01:59 pm
Short term will end up Div 1/Championship

From Wki!

Burnley have been champions of England twice, in 1920–21 and 1959–60, have won the FA Cup once, in 1913–14, and have won the FA Charity Shield twice, in 1960 and 1973.[5][6] They have been runners-up in the First Division twice, in 1919–20 and 1961–62, and FA Cup runners-up twice, in 1946–47 and 1961–62.[5] Burnley were the second, and are one of only five teams to have won all four professional divisions of English football, along with Wolverhampton Wanderers, Preston North End, Sheffield United and Portsmouth.[7][8]

As of the end of the 2020–21 season, the team have spent 58 seasons in the top division of English football, 46 in the second, 11 in the third, and 7 in the fourth.


Based on their record maybe a top side.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 28, 2021, 19:03:48 pm
This is likely to attract controversy, but...

Having watched that scout report closely (as is possible given the camera shots!), I personally think that there are some great movements in the box for BAS to get goals, combined with a couple of driving runs, and goals with both feet.

Given service in an attack minded side, I think he could be a handful. Please let's not write him off yet.

Not from me ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 28, 2021, 19:08:20 pm
This is likely to attract controversy, but...

Having watched that scout report closely (as is possible given the camera shots!), I personally think that there are some great movements in the box for BAS to get goals, combined with a couple of driving runs, and goals with both feet.

Given service in an attack minded side, I think he could be a handful. Please let's not write him off yet.
Just to give that some balance he was playing in Prem U23’s for most of that scouting report which is a pîss poor standard.
Personally I think he has a bad attitude and can’t stand up as well as being utterly useless.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on June 28, 2021, 19:17:17 pm
From Wki!

Burnley have been champions of England twice, in 1920–21 and 1959–60, have won the FA Cup once, in 1913–14, and have won the FA Charity Shield twice, in 1960 and 1973.[5][6] They have been runners-up in the First Division twice, in 1919–20 and 1961–62, and FA Cup runners-up twice, in 1946–47 and 1961–62.[5] Burnley were the second, and are one of only five teams to have won all four professional divisions of English football, along with Wolverhampton Wanderers, Preston North End, Sheffield United and Portsmouth.[7][8]

As of the end of the 2020–21 season, the team have spent 58 seasons in the top division of English football, 46 in the second, 11 in the third, and 7 in the fourth.


Based on their record maybe a top side.
P
Good post Evers. They are also the smallest town to have a top flight team in the modern era or ever and were also one of the 12 original members of the football league. I’ve always considered them a top 2 division side.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on June 28, 2021, 19:18:54 pm
I wasn't very clear, I meant players that we should get rid of or who have had interest already.

No way I would want any of those you listed to leave, even if for a tidy sum!

Fair play - sorry, did not mean to put words in your mouth there!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on June 28, 2021, 19:34:26 pm
Fair play - sorry, did not mean to put words in your mouth there!

It's all good, keeps the thread on topic.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 28, 2021, 22:09:10 pm
From Wki!

Burnley have been champions of England twice, in 1920–21 and 1959–60, have won the FA Cup once, in 1913–14, and have won the FA Charity Shield twice, in 1960 and 1973.[5][6] They have been runners-up in the First Division twice, in 1919–20 and 1961–62, and FA Cup runners-up twice, in 1946–47 and 1961–62.[5] Burnley were the second, and are one of only five teams to have won all four professional divisions of English football, along with Wolverhampton Wanderers, Preston North End, Sheffield United and Portsmouth.[7][8]

As of the end of the 2020–21 season, the team have spent 58 seasons in the top division of English football, 46 in the second, 11 in the third, and 7 in the fourth.


Based on their record maybe a top side.
I’m not sure if this proves my point or makes me a bit of a t1t, can someone clarify?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 29, 2021, 07:12:19 am
I think it proves you are a t1t as along with myself you have taken the thread from our summer transfer activity to the history of Burnley football club.

We’ve done well there  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 29, 2021, 07:45:19 am
I think it proves you are a t1t as along with myself you have taken the thread from our summer transfer activity to the history of Burnley football club.

We’ve done well there  ;D ;D
That’s what I thought, thanks for confirming.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 29, 2021, 09:25:46 am
That’s what I thought, thanks for confirming.

Not many have criticised your opinion on Burnley. You are fully entitled to your opinion; time will eventually be the judge!😎


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 29, 2021, 09:29:51 am
Surely overdue another one now  ;D
Still need a goal scorer


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: russelljc21 on June 29, 2021, 10:04:04 am
Paul Mullins available after turning down a new deal at cambridge 25 plus division 2 goals last season.He must have worked with calderwood.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 29, 2021, 10:11:14 am
Paul Mullins available after turning down a new deal at cambridge 25 plus division 2 goals last season.He must have worked with calderwood.
Some way bigger clubs in for him, no chance for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on June 29, 2021, 10:18:38 am
I’d imagine we will sign a decent proven striker and or a striker that can be purchased to sell on for profit now that we have a new management/scouting structure in place


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblersToMePod on June 29, 2021, 10:23:45 am
Fingers crossed, Shoemaker!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on June 29, 2021, 11:37:59 am
There has to be a potential new signing imminent? Been at least 2 days now  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 29, 2021, 11:40:39 am
There has to be a potential new signing imminent? Been at least 2 days now  :o

Is there no one based near Carlisle that can spot them coming down?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on June 29, 2021, 12:07:18 pm
Is there no one based near Carlisle that can spot them coming down?

Hadrians Wall - we have sent Shoemaker up there on sentry duty and scouting duties. Bit of a lonely spot so he will feel at home. 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on June 29, 2021, 12:17:55 pm
Is there no one based near Carlisle that can spot them coming down?

We used to sign players at Watford Gap services, I think we're now using Tebay!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on June 29, 2021, 12:27:04 pm
Striker target list  ;)

Odsonne Edouard   18
Celtic   
Kemar Roofe   14
Rangers
Kevin Nisbet   14
Hibernian
James Tavernier   12
Rangers
Martin Boyle   12
Hibernian
Alfredo Morelos   12
Rangers
Devante Cole   11
Motherwell
Ryan Kent   10
Rangers   
Mohamed Elyounoussi   10
Celtic   
Jamie McGrath   10
St Mirren   
David Turnbull   9
Celtic, Motherwell
Chris Burke   9
Kilmarnock
Ross Callachan   9
Hamilton Academical   
Lewis Ferguson   9
Aberdeen   
Lawrence Shankland   8
Dundee United   
Kyle Lafferty   8
Kilmarnock   
Nicky Clark   8
Dundee United


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on June 29, 2021, 12:35:24 pm
Paul Mullins available after turning down a new deal at cambridge 25 plus division 2 goals last season.He must have worked with calderwood.

Not for me...has had one good season at Cambridge, previously couldn't hit a barn door from 10 yards


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on June 29, 2021, 12:38:37 pm
I think James Tavernier would tie down the problem right back position  :.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on June 29, 2021, 12:45:35 pm
I think James Tavernier would tie down the problem right back position  :.
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on June 29, 2021, 14:03:42 pm
who's the lad in the training photo's turning BAS and then being hurdled by Kabamba?

Youth team player Peter Abimbola.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 29, 2021, 14:08:21 pm
Hadrians Wall - we have sent Shoemaker up there on sentry duty and scouting duties. Bit of a lonely spot so he will feel at home. 8)

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 29, 2021, 14:45:17 pm
I see Exeter have signed Jevani Brown, thought he looked a real prospect at Cambridge but seems to have fallen away a bit recently. Wouldn’t have minded us taking a chance on him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on June 29, 2021, 15:14:23 pm
Youth team player Peter Abimbola.

Confirmed? As from quick search of name I would disagree (from limited pictures available)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on June 29, 2021, 15:38:28 pm
Confirmed? As from quick search of name I would disagree (from limited pictures available)

Chron have confirmed it's him


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 29, 2021, 15:38:44 pm
Confirmed? As from quick search of name I would disagree (from limited pictures available)
Probably likely. Club are unlikely to photo trialists id have thought. Assume hes year younger than Dyche, Flangan etc, so interesting too see them mix with full team, but could be just because we still need numbers for preseason.

Brady would know him well at least. https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/brady_110121/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on June 30, 2021, 10:57:36 am
Does anyone know how may senior players we have signed up for the new season and how many more we are allowed to sign over the age limit, whatever that is this year?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on June 30, 2021, 11:12:42 am
Under contract:

Michael Harriman
Caleb Chukwuemeka ++
Jack Sowerby
Fraser Horsfall
Sam Hoskins
Harry Smith
Scott Pollock  ++
Shaun McWilliams
Benny Ashley-Seal
Joseph Mills
Danny Rose
Max Dyche  ++
Liam Cross  ++
Josh Flanagan  ++
Nicke Kabamba
John Guthrie
Jordan Flores (on loan from Hull City)
Liam Roberts (GK)
Dylan Connolly
Paul Lewis
Mitch Pinnock
John Maxted (GK)

++ Underage players outside of EFL Rules

I make that 15 outfield players over the age of 21.....we're allowed 20.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on June 30, 2021, 11:57:04 am
Thanks GPC, so that means we could sign another 5 players over 20, should the club want to. My shopping list would include a CB, LB, RB, and a striker. We do look as if we may have a few goals from midfield and defence this year though so maybe JB won't sign a striker unless someone leaves. I guess he will want to keep a place open for a loanee to be signed nearer the end of the window when we have had a few games to assess the squad.  I guess we can sign as many under 20 as we can afford/want ?

Just noticed Caleb is not on the list, but he's 19 anyway.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Sixfields_struggler on June 30, 2021, 17:42:48 pm
As Byork sang in 1995, “Shhhh, it’s oh so quiet.  Shhhh, it’s oh, so still.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 30, 2021, 18:37:48 pm
I like it a lot, lot more than last years.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on June 30, 2021, 19:18:14 pm
I like it a lot, lot more than last years.

Psssstt!  I don't think you meant to be here, did you? :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 30, 2021, 21:21:24 pm
Maybe I'm talking about the respective transfer windows, with the benefit of hindsight?

(Yeah, it was supposed to be in the shirt thread)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on June 30, 2021, 21:30:33 pm
Psssstt!  I don't think you meant to be here, did you? :)
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on June 30, 2021, 22:46:34 pm
We’ve got too many ITK’s on here now, so my services are no longer required, take care chaps!
i know some things very early but it’s hard to keep up with developments that change quickly .
You are the master NTFC lad and your timings are superb .
Keep posting mate


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 01, 2021, 06:43:00 am
‘Getting there’ with a couple more. They don’t sound imminent as of yet.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 01, 2021, 07:15:34 am
The striker issue is solved. Messi is a free agent now.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 01, 2021, 07:51:32 am
34. Legs will have gone.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 01, 2021, 08:04:18 am
He’s a good player and all that but would he be able to do it on a cold, wet night at Barrow?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 01, 2021, 08:43:03 am
To be honest, if KT doesn't make a move for him now he's on the market it shows a real lack of ambition and I for one will be requesting a refund on my season ticket.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 01, 2021, 09:23:44 am
To be honest, if KT doesn't make a move for him now he's on the market it shows a real lack of ambition and I for one will be requesting a refund on my season ticket.

Any truth ‘Laddo if we are after Messi  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 01, 2021, 09:45:02 am
‘Getting there’ with a couple more. They don’t sound imminent as of yet.

Do we know if these are loans or permanent signings yet?

Interesting that we only have the one loan player announced so far, we normally seem to love having too many of them for the matchday squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on July 01, 2021, 10:35:51 am
He’s a good player and all that but would he be able to do it on a cold, wet night at Barrow?

He wont have to, Barrow is last game of the season.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 01, 2021, 11:33:50 am
Do we know if these are loans or permanent signings yet?

Interesting that we only have the one loan player announced so far, we normally seem to love having too many of them for the matchday squad.

No idea if it's one of the two NTFC Lad is referring to but I saw earlier today EFL Zone (a reasonably accurate account) on twitter replying to a Cobblers fan that we are still interested in Kabongo Tshimanga. A couple of days back a BBC Greater Manchester journo reporting on Bolton said that Bolton are not currently pursuing him so perhaps we have a good chance if so?

I watched his season highlights from the last couple of seasons on youtube (I'll post the links below in case anyone's interested). Reminds me somewhat of Sergio Aguero in that he has a certain nippy type of speed, a low centre of gravity and scores a lot of well struck shots inside the penalty area. I reckon he'd be a very good signing but I guess you never can tell!

2019/20 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8)
2020/21 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 01, 2021, 11:44:07 am
You must be getting right brassed off with everyone asking you questions Ntfclad, so I will ask my own! Has anyone thus far really stood out and impressed in training who we can look forward to seeing play in the upcoming season. I don't know if your insider knowledge would extend this far?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 01, 2021, 12:46:31 pm
No idea if it's one of the two NTFC Lad is referring to but I saw earlier today EFL Zone (a reasonably accurate account) on twitter replying to a Cobblers fan that we are still interested in Kabongo Tshimanga. A couple of days back a BBC Greater Manchester journo reporting on Bolton said that Bolton are not currently pursuing him so perhaps we have a good chance if so?

I watched his season highlights from the last couple of seasons on youtube (I'll post the links below in case anyone's interested). Reminds me somewhat of Sergio Aguero in that he has a certain nippy type of speed, a low centre of gravity and scores a lot of well struck shots inside the penalty area. I reckon he'd be a very good signing but I guess you never can tell!

2019/20 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8)
2020/21 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s)
He isn’t available on a free


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on July 01, 2021, 12:54:22 pm
Maybe we can swap him for BAS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 01, 2021, 12:58:07 pm
Maybe we can swap him for BAS.
They would also need to give us a hefty cheque.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 01, 2021, 13:02:32 pm
He isn’t available on a free
Does that matter?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 01, 2021, 13:02:56 pm
They would also need to give us a hefty cheque.
I think we would have to give them a hefty cheque


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 01, 2021, 13:09:32 pm
I think we would have to give them a hefty cheque
I'm not good with these emoticons.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 01, 2021, 13:09:46 pm
He isn’t available on a free

No he isn't, I am aware. Let's not make out like the club haven't paid fees during KT's time here. By the way you don't need to reply to this because I'm pretty sure I know what you will say!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 01, 2021, 13:20:18 pm
This Kabongo Tshimanga story has been going around for weeks. Originally it looked like a fight between Bradford, Carlisle and Bolton. Now, according to a tweet from EFL Zone, it’s us, Hartlepool and Orient favourites to sign him.
Fingers crossed. This would be a good signing but would probably be linked to getting Big Harry off the books.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 01, 2021, 13:20:44 pm
He isn’t available on a free

Messi is available on a free...  Oh! but that means he's crap!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 01, 2021, 13:22:12 pm
Needless to say there is no Twitter rumours about BAS’ next move?!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 01, 2021, 13:25:42 pm
Needless to say there is no Twitter rumours about BAS’ next move?!

Well, it's obvious isn't it? It's either from an upright position to the ground or from the ground to an upright position.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 01, 2021, 13:45:14 pm
No idea if it's one of the two NTFC Lad is referring to but I saw earlier today EFL Zone (a reasonably accurate account) on twitter replying to a Cobblers fan that we are still interested in Kabongo Tshimanga. A couple of days back a BBC Greater Manchester journo reporting on Bolton said that Bolton are not currently pursuing him so perhaps we have a good chance if so?

I watched his season highlights from the last couple of seasons on youtube (I'll post the links below in case anyone's interested). Reminds me somewhat of Sergio Aguero in that he has a certain nippy type of speed, a low centre of gravity and scores a lot of well struck shots inside the penalty area. I reckon he'd be a very good signing but I guess you never can tell!

2019/20 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otajyHzGzY8)
2020/21 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBXzZ6h_VA&t=184s)
Kabongo a hero at Oxford City... ironically scoring against Tranmere for City in the FAC, bringing them back to Oxford for a replay. Bit of a damp squib that night!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 01, 2021, 14:56:53 pm
No he isn't, I am aware. Let's not make out like the club haven't paid fees during KT's time here. By the way you don't need to reply to this because I'm pretty sure I know what you will say!  ;D
I’d love the club to show some ambition and speculate to accumulate now that we have a transfer committee in place.

I’ve seen it all before though and expect a untried prem youth team forward on loan which  I’ve said before is of zero benefit in the long term.

In fairness Callum Morton is a case in point.

Good player for us but of zero long term benefit.

I really hope I’m proved wrong, what do others think
Will we
A) show ambition and spend some decent money in order to turn a profit
B) continue to sign free transfers and inexperienced loans

Be interested to hear which path people think the club will go down.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 01, 2021, 15:11:24 pm
You can't speculate to accumulate if the speculation could leave you up s***s creek if it doesn't pay out dividends, and based on our transfer history I'd say that they'd be a good 75% chance you'd be making significant losses on such a policy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 01, 2021, 15:17:34 pm

In fairness Callum Morton is a case in point.

Good player for us but of zero long term benefit.


He was pivotal in getting us promoted. We then wasted that opportunity by bringing in a number of players for fees who were garbage and we were relegated.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 01, 2021, 15:27:28 pm
I’d be rather deflated given all the talk of a new club structure and a transfer committee and then paying the likes of calderwood ,Carr and foyle a wage , to then bring in free transfers and youth loans.
No long term benefit and a total waste of money.

We’ve got a really good off field set up so I’m hoping that given that the club has invested in putting it in place that they will now invest to help the club grow.

It’s be odd to invest in a brains trust and still go down the wrong path


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblersToMePod on July 01, 2021, 15:40:44 pm

I’d love the club to show some ambition and speculate to accumulate now that we have a transfer committee in place.


I think the club have tried to do this over the last few seasons. Both Matty Warburton and Ricky Korboa were signed with that in mind, they just didn't work out that way in the end.

Charlie Goode is an example of it working very well for us though. So 1 out of 3 isn't that bad.

I expect BAS is another that was brought in with an eye on a future big money transfer.

The problem is that you don't know for sure that it will work out that way.

For all the talk about how well P*sh do it, they also let a lot of duds go for minimal money or free.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 01, 2021, 15:41:24 pm
I’d love the club to show some ambition and speculate to accumulate now that we have a transfer committee in place.

I’ve seen it all before though and expect a untried prem youth team forward on loan which  I’ve said before is of zero benefit in the long term.

In fairness Callum Morton is a case in point.

Good player for us but of zero long term benefit.

I really hope I’m proved wrong, what do others think
Will we
A) show ambition and spend some decent money in order to turn a profit
B) continue to sign free transfers and inexperienced loans

Be interested to hear which path people think the club will go down.

Signing players either for Fee or Free is never an exact science, there's a history of very expensive failures and bargain successes. I know Leicester fans who thought Jamie Vardy was a waste of money at £1m!!

You paint a picture of the committee sitting round a table all chipping in to sign a new player.
Clubs in League 1 & 2 can rarely plan long term unless it's by developing their own players and hoping the fans will be patient.

To be fair to the current owners they seem to have backed their managers to pay fees for players, it's easy to say they should have spent more. If £6m+ has been put in to the club for running costs it stands to reason you ain't gonna spend the same again on players. ( OK your beloved P*t*rborough would!)

Free transfers , loans and just the odd fee for someone with promise will continue to be the way for the Cobblers and most other teams at our level. Then the coaching and a bit of luck with a couple of your signings kicks in, nothing guaranteed though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 01, 2021, 15:58:13 pm
I don't think paying transfer fees makes too much difference and not that advisable at our level. We are never going to tempt someone who is flying mid-contract from a competitor, which even then would also command a big salary on top.
Far better off bunging someone a signing on fee incentive, bonuses and half decent wage. Even then we have had our fair share of dross on a relative large wage to the average.

Not sure on these salary sites at all but read on a couple that people like Hoskins are on around £80k a year. That's decent but not massive and probably our average wage, or even a bit less. It's only at our level that the well used "it's a short career" is really relevant, hence the likes of Savage in B&Q. Earning that amount for a football career will struggle to see you into retirement, although you could say why should a footballer be able to retire at 30-35?!





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 01, 2021, 16:32:26 pm
Twitter latest...

Notts County have now made an offer for Tshimanga. Northampton have been in unsuccessful discussions with Boreham Wood for days. #ntfc #ncfc #nottscounty #cobblers


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 01, 2021, 16:46:25 pm
Twitter latest...

Notts County have now made an offer for Tshimanga. Northampton have been in unsuccessful discussions with Boreham Wood for days. #ntfc #ncfc #nottscounty #cobblers
Just fcuking sort it out, offer them the same money and BAS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 01, 2021, 17:08:49 pm
Just fcuking sort it out, offer them the same money and BAS.

I doubt BAS is any incentive. Add-ons might be the way to go if cash now is an issue.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 01, 2021, 17:22:28 pm
I doubt BAS is any incentive. Add-ons might be the way to go if cash now is an issue.
:o What are you saying about the next Derngate Panto star!
He’s on the floor
No he’s not
Oh yes he is.......


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 01, 2021, 18:58:16 pm
Attacking midfielder Tom Scott has left NTFC (where he was on a scholarship contract) and signed a professional deal with Sunderland following a successful trial a month or two back.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 01, 2021, 18:58:25 pm
Ricky Korboa signs for Sutton United.

Personally I would have liked to see what he could have done for us in league 2. I think he has some talent but maybe lacked a bit of desire, particularly in training.  It will be interesting to see how he gets on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 01, 2021, 19:49:29 pm
:o What are you saying about the next Derngate Panto star!
He’s on the floor
No he’s not
Oh yes he is.......
Thought Grealish has been quite good for England. Get what you are saying though!  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 01, 2021, 22:26:02 pm
Seems Gillingham are in for Tshimanga now too..

Were we actually in for him ntfclad?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 01, 2021, 22:41:08 pm
Be interesting to know what percentage of senior players successfully make the jump from non league to full time. As it’s been mentioned the 86/87 squad was littered with success stories. Given the massive influx of overseas players since that time I assumed talented home grown players would be forced further down the pyramid. That should have led to even richer pickings to be had, but it doesn’t seem to be the case does it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 07:39:06 am
Be interesting to know what percentage of senior players successfully make the jump from non league to full time. As it’s been mentioned the 86/87 squad was littered with success stories. Given the massive influx of overseas players since that time I assumed talented home grown players would be forced further down the pyramid. That should have led to even richer pickings to be had, but it doesn’t seem to be the case does it?
TBH Melly the game has moved on massively since the 80’s with the likes of Morley, Hill and Gleasure.
The jump has got bigger because the full time lads are fitter than there counterparts of yesteryears.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 02, 2021, 08:47:31 am
TBH Melly the game has moved on massively since the 80’s with the likes of Morley, Hill and Gleasure.
The jump has got bigger because the full time lads are fitter than there counterparts of yesteryears.
Sounds reasonable. There has to be something to it because it doesn’t seem to happen successfully anywhere near as often as it used to? As for the influx of overseas players I also assumed the standard would go up in the lower divisions. Again this would have been due to naturally gifted home grown players being forced lower down the pyramid. This doesn’t seem to have happened either?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 02, 2021, 09:34:14 am
I’m not sure I’d agree that the overall standard of football in the lower leagues hasn’t significantly improved in the last 30/40 years. I think it’s natural to look back with nostalgic Rose tinted glasses, while the overall entertainment might not be too different, things like touch, passing, work rate & tactical awareness have improved massively. Whether this is because of the influx of foreign players, better coaching, better fitness, better pitches or other reasons I don’t know.
As for non league players coming into the league, if the numbers have drastically gone down I’d put it down to more talented youth players been spotted by league academies at a young age as well as well better scouting at lower league clubs and being able to pick up players released by big club academies that might have been missed in the past.


 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 02, 2021, 10:45:37 am
I’m not sure I’d agree that the overall standard of football in the lower leagues hasn’t significantly improved in the last 30/40 years. I think it’s natural to look back with nostalgic Rose tinted glasses, while the overall entertainment might not be too different, things like touch, passing, work rate & tactical awareness have improved massively. Whether this is because of the influx of foreign players, better coaching, better fitness, better pitches or other reasons I don’t know.
As for non league players coming into the league, if the numbers have drastically gone down I’d put it down to more talented youth players been spotted by league academies at a young age as well as well better scouting at lower league clubs and being able to pick up players released by big club academies that might have been missed in the past.


 

For me, work rate (fitness), tactical awareness and medical have significantly improved but not touch, passing and skill. Lads back in the 60s and 70s spent endless hours honing those aspects on a whole variety of surfaces. It was not as ultra professional as it is now. Tackling is fast going out of the game.

Fat kids were a rarity back in my youth. We all played football - couldn't get enough of it. Football most of the year, cricket in the summer and rough rugby when we were so inclined. And yes, jumpers for goalposts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 02, 2021, 10:57:37 am
Missilou has signed for Newport County.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 02, 2021, 11:08:55 am
Be interesting to know what percentage of senior players successfully make the jump from non league to full time. As it’s been mentioned the 86/87 squad was littered with success stories. Given the massive influx of overseas players since that time I assumed talented home grown players would be forced further down the pyramid. That should have led to even richer pickings to be had, but it doesn’t seem to be the case does it?

Lower leagues have massively improved
Wasnt that long ago that being Conference meant not being a fully pro club. Most conference sides are fully pro now
Mitch Pinnock made is route to us from non-league
Vadaine Oliver had long period non league
I dont think its the big divide anymore. Biggest jumps now are L2 to L1 and then to Champs
Look how many clubs come up from non league and stay up or even progress on very quickly with the momentum (best examples Lincoln, Burton, Wimbledon)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 11:18:00 am
Lower leagues have massively improved
Wasnt that long ago that being Conference meant not being a fully pro club. Most conference sides are fully pro now
Mitch Pinnock made is route to us from non-league
Vadaine Oliver had long period non league
I dont think its the big divide anymore. Biggest jumps now are L2 to L1 and then to Champs
Look how many clubs come up from non league and stay up or even progress on very quickly with the momentum (best examples Lincoln, Burton, Wimbledon)
Emmm, Lincoln are pretty much a league club as were Wimbledon and had the support base behind them as for Burton having St George’s park as their training facility has probably kept them a league club.
Look at the smaller clubs last year Barrow just managed to stay up and Harrogate were near the bottom as well.
They will struggle big time this year with arguably bigger teams coming down from L1.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 02, 2021, 13:46:50 pm
For me, work rate (fitness), tactical awareness and medical have significantly improved but not touch, passing and skill. Lads back in the 60s and 70s spent endless hours honing those aspects on a whole variety of surfaces. It was not as ultra professional as it is now. Tackling is fast going out of the game.

Fat kids were a rarity back in my youth. We all played football - couldn't get enough of it. Football most of the year, cricket in the summer and rough rugby when we were so inclined. And yes, jumpers for goalposts.

Also no games console, no all day TV and Mum telling you to get out from underneath her feet. The only fst kid I can remember at school had glandular problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 02, 2021, 14:00:21 pm
The world has moved on. In the majority of sports (especially requiring athletic ability) there have been improvements, although there will always be exceptions. Most world records have been beaten since the turn of the century.

I have no concept whatsoever how Carr's Cobblers would perform against Wilder's Cobblers but I reckon the latter would comfortably win, especially now Morley is 60  :P
Claret tinted specs but I preferred that former season but was a kid so probably a lot more excitable.

I wonder if there are many examples where things haven't progressed? Can't see any reason why snooker and darts players should be getting better, apart from darts players generally not sinking 10 pints anymore.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 02, 2021, 14:16:27 pm
Right, back on topic yet again!  ;D

JB latest interview mentions a couple of trialists in now & more in over the next few weeks...

ntfclad care to enlighten us?  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 02, 2021, 14:37:50 pm
Just seen Pierce Sweeney has terminated his deeal with Swindon less than a month after joining

Hate to capitalize on a club in a tight spot but would be a good signing if he's looking now...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 02, 2021, 14:41:45 pm
Just seen Pierce Sweeney has terminated his deeal with Swindon less than a month after joining
Hate to capitalize on a club in a tight spot but would be a good signing if he's looking now...

Was just about to post this.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 15:10:01 pm
Right, back on topic yet again!  ;D

JB latest interview mentions a couple of trialists in now & more in over the next few weeks...

ntfclad care to enlighten us?  ;)
Trialists, oh dear we’ve run out of ideas, so much for the data driven approach!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 02, 2021, 15:48:09 pm
Just seen Pierce Sweeney has terminated his deeal with Swindon less than a month after joining

Hate to capitalize on a club in a tight spot but would be a good signing if he's looking now...

He doesn't want to relocate to Swindon, so is hardly going to move here. He's looking to stay in Exeter for family reasons. Certainly narrows his choices down - back to Exeter or Torquay it is then.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 02, 2021, 16:29:15 pm
Steve Arnold's found a club, dodgy back and all.

Signed a 2 year deal  :o at Southend. I hope they carried out a thorough medical  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 02, 2021, 16:43:29 pm
Steve Arnold's found a club, dodgy back and all.

Signed a 2 year deal  :o at Southend. I hope they carried out a thorough medical  ;D

They'll probably announce Nuttall next!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 02, 2021, 16:57:37 pm
Also no games console, no all day TV and Mum telling you to get out from underneath her feet. The only fst kid I can remember at school had glandular problems.
I can recall a few fat kids. The ones that didnt like PE, or cross country running. And when they finished ran into Miss Sedons maths class half an hour late. One of them became a Detective inspector. Even fatter then.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 02, 2021, 17:28:39 pm
Looking at the average cobblers fan I think it's fat adults that are society's problem.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Buster on July 02, 2021, 17:32:49 pm
Be interesting to know what percentage of senior players successfully make the jump from non league to full time. As it’s been mentioned the 86/87 squad was littered with success stories. Given the massive influx of overseas players since that time I assumed talented home grown players would be forced further down the pyramid. That should have led to even richer pickings to be had, but it doesn’t seem to be the case does it?

I think it is more a case of everything fell into place that season.  In truth, in those days football league clubs rarely fished in the non-league pool.  Carr came to us after managing Nuneaton in the conference (or whatever it was then) so he knew the league inside out and was almost able to cherry-pick the best players.  I remember being quite worried at the number of inexperienced league players we started with that season. Carr was given £30k to spend by Derek Banks and oddly, top scorer Richard Hill only came because Paul Culpin (his first choice target) got snapped up for more by Coventry.  Culpin didn’t cut it and Coventry and eventually came to us anyway


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on July 02, 2021, 17:51:23 pm
Trialists, oh dear we’ve run out of ideas, so much for the data driven approach!

I saw that post on Facebook and thought I bet if i go on here there will one person having a moan and low and behold here you are.

What is wrong with having a look at players? Every single club will be doing exactly the same as us at this point. Did you also miss the part that said Martin Foyle was also working hard on the recruitment side.

You are in the same boat as everyone else you don't know the players we are looking at and who is even training with us


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 17:52:42 pm
I think it is more a case of everything fell into place that season.  In truth, in those days football league clubs rarely fished in the non-league pool.  Carr came to us after managing Nuneaton in the conference (or whatever it was then) so he knew the league inside out and was almost able to cherry-pick the best players.  I remember being quite worried at the number of inexperienced league players we started with that season. Carr was given £30k to spend by Derek Banks and oddly, top scorer Richard Hill only came because Paul Culpin (his first choice target) got snapped up for more by Coventry.  Culpin didn’t cut it and Coventry and eventually came to us anyway
For £50k, funny isn’t it the only thing that has stayed the same is the transfer fees we pay, I actually think it’s shameful that Josh Low is still our record signing at £165k.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 02, 2021, 17:56:32 pm
Looking at the average cobblers fan I think it's fat adults that are society's problem.

How dare you, sir?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 17:56:35 pm
I saw that post on Facebook and thought I bet if i go on here there will one person having a moan and low and behold here you are.

What is wrong with having a look at players? Every single club will be doing exactly the same as us at this point. Did you also miss the part that said Martin Foyle was also working hard on the recruitment side.

You are in the same boat as everyone else you don't know the players we are looking at and who is even training with us
Seriously what else is Martin Foyle going to say, “ I’m tossing it off out home go and find your own players”
What is wrong with trialists is that there is a reason why they are trialists, they obviously aren’t in demand or are injured and someone needs to take a punt, it smacks of desperation TBH.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 02, 2021, 17:58:53 pm
Van veen has gone to Motherwell


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 18:00:41 pm
Looking at the average cobblers fan I think it's fat adults that are society's problem.
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 18:02:32 pm
Van veen has gone to Motherwell
Best place for him, he’ll be right up for it in the middle of winter playing in front of 2000.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 02, 2021, 18:12:04 pm
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.

I take it you are fat.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 02, 2021, 18:15:02 pm
Van veen has gone to Motherwell

A good move for him. A chance to resurrect his career.

Scottish Premier League standard ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 18:42:09 pm
I take it you are fat.
It’s all the Stoner kebabs and deep fried shît.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 02, 2021, 18:42:18 pm
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.

So im the problem with society? Duly noted.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 18:43:50 pm
So im the problem with society? Duly noted.
Are you a millennial socialist?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 02, 2021, 18:48:38 pm
Are you a millennial socialist?

Just a millennial.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 02, 2021, 18:54:41 pm
Just a millennial.

I bet you don't eat stoner kebabs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 02, 2021, 19:32:08 pm
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.

I think some millenials are just tosspots who sit around waiting to be offended, but I don't think it's all of them to be fair. Middle class socialists though, couldn't agree more. Fùcking hypocrites the lot of them. I've ended up with a fair few of the buggers in my social media bubble. I didn't really want Boris to win the last election because I think he's a liar, but I have to admit it was worth it to see all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Corbynites.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 20:25:41 pm
Just a millennial.
In that case I’ll pardon you on this occasion.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 20:27:32 pm
I bet you don't eat stoner kebabs.
You’ve never lived, wash it down with a bottle of Buckie.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 02, 2021, 20:41:03 pm
God save our gracious Queen!
Long live our noble Queen!
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen.

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 02, 2021, 21:10:28 pm
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.
I am neither a millennial, middle class or a socialist, but apparently am both a w@nker and a c***, work that out? Not quite the expert social commentator you make out Manny are you.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 02, 2021, 21:37:25 pm
I am neither a millennial, middle class or a socialist, but apparently am both a w@nker and a c***, work that out? Not quite the expert social commentator you make out Manny are you.
It’s drinking all that mid strength beer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 02, 2021, 22:43:39 pm
God save our gracious Queen!
Long live our noble Queen!
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen.

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen.

Quite  Royalist then?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 02, 2021, 22:49:55 pm
Society’s problem is millennials, absolute wànkers, expect everything on a plate too lazy to work because mummy and daddy will pay for everything, failing that the tax payers.
I have to give a special mention to middle class socialists, absolute cûnts.

 ;D  Worth a chuckle that 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: phil_in_npton on July 03, 2021, 07:47:26 am
Good Morning!

Apologies for bringing it back to football! My team Newport have just signed Chris Missilou, from Swindon and previously a Cobblers player. I must admit I didn’t know the chap. As Cobblers let him go, I suspect he is just bang average League two player?
Apart from scoring against you early in the season what can we expect from this “international “ signing?

Cheers and good luck for the coming season.

Phil in Northampton


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 03, 2021, 07:58:35 am
Good Morning!

Apologies for bringing it back to football! My team Newport have just signed Chris Missilou, from Swindon and previously a Cobblers player. I must admit I didn’t know the chap. As Cobblers let him go, I suspect he is just bang average League two player?
Apart from scoring against you early in the season what can we expect from this “international “ signing?

Cheers and good luck for the coming season.

Phil in Northampton
Morning Phil, he’s beyond hopeless


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 03, 2021, 08:27:12 am
With the emphasis now seemingly on defensive signings , I can’t wait to see who our proven goalscorer signing will be because I’m damn sure we haven’t got one in the squad at the moment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 03, 2021, 08:52:20 am
Good Morning!

Apologies for bringing it back to football! My team Newport have just signed Chris Missilou, from Swindon and previously a Cobblers player. I must admit I didn’t know the chap. As Cobblers let him go, I suspect he is just bang average League two player?
Apart from scoring against you early in the season what can we expect from this “international “ signing?

Cheers and good luck for the coming season.

Phil in Northampton

Thought he was adequate for a defensive midfielder, can probably do a job if he has creative players around him but don’t expect too much.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 03, 2021, 08:56:41 am
Looking at the average cobblers fan I think it's fat adults that are society's problem.

The problem is that people are told by the anti-body shamer group that it is OK to be fat. It's not, it is bad for your health, it is bad for the NHS that has to cope with diseases driven by poor lifestyle choices and most of all it's bad for any of us who get to their seat at Sixfields and there is some lard árse who is taking up half your seat.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 03, 2021, 08:57:22 am
With the emphasis now seemingly on defensive signings , I can’t wait to see who our proven goalscorer signing will be because I’m damn sure we haven’t got one in the squad at the moment.

My big concern too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 03, 2021, 08:58:00 am
With the emphasis now seemingly on defensive signings , I can’t wait to see who our proven goalscorer signing will be because I’m damn sure we haven’t got one in the squad at the moment.

With 6 strikers already at the club we really need to offload a couple if we are to bring anyone else in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 03, 2021, 08:58:06 am
I thought he was very good at getting stuck in and winning the ball, unfortunately once he'd got it he immediately gave it back again!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on July 03, 2021, 09:05:23 am
With the emphasis now seemingly on defensive signings , I can’t wait to see who our proven goalscorer signing will be because I’m damn sure we haven’t got one in the squad at the moment.

As you already know Shoe man .... its gonna be worth the wait.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on July 03, 2021, 09:16:24 am
It’s all the Stoner kebabs

Had to Google what these were. Wow, you eat Italian heavy metal bands?
  :o No wonder you are fat.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 03, 2021, 10:07:45 am
Had to Google what these were. Wow, you eat Italian heavy metal bands?
  :o No wonder you are fat.
You don’t know what your missing ( apart from an n)

(https://i2-prod.edinburghlive.co.uk/incoming/article15465387.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_Screen-Shot-2018-11-26-at-105440.png)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest1269 on July 03, 2021, 10:28:42 am
You don’t know what your missing ( apart from an n)

(https://i2-prod.edinburghlive.co.uk/incoming/article15465387.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_Screen-Shot-2018-11-26-at-105440.png)

I’m a traditionalist- I prefer fish with my chips not fried gonads!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 03, 2021, 10:29:40 am
With 6 strikers already at the club we really need to offload a couple if we are to bring anyone else in.
And if we don’t I’m sure we can agree we’re up against it
One of the lowest if not lowest goal scoring clubs in the league last year and so far we’ve bought in a target man who may notch ten a season.
Goals win games and we need a proper striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 03, 2021, 10:34:44 am
Graham Carr said we needed to sign 'two centre forwards this summer':

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/carr-believes-cobblers-must-target-two-centre-forwards-this-summer-3245358

So far we've signed Kabamba. Time will tell whether he fits Carr's definition of a centre forward.

If the much-vaunted new recruitment system is worth it's salt and if we want to genuinely challenge next year then we need to sign a proper centre forward. Our major issue last year was scoring goals as Brady knows.

I'm actually a bit confused by Brady's talk of all the emphasis being on defensive signings because I would have thought that the first choice back 5 was already in place: Roberts, Mills, Horsfall, Guthrie, Harriman.

Surely we just need back up now in those areas? (Although I suppose he might want a more attack-minded rb than Harriman.)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 03, 2021, 10:48:55 am
You don’t know what your missing ( apart from an n)

(https://i2-prod.edinburghlive.co.uk/incoming/article15465387.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_Screen-Shot-2018-11-26-at-105440.png)
I tried a deep fried mars bar once in Corby. Never again.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 03, 2021, 12:27:48 pm
Graham Carr said we needed to sign 'two centre forwards this summer':

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/carr-believes-cobblers-must-target-two-centre-forwards-this-summer-3245358

So far we've signed Kabamba. Time will tell whether he fits Carr's definition of a centre forward.

If the much-vaunted new recruitment system is worth it's salt and if we want to genuinely challenge next year then we need to sign a proper centre forward. Our major issue last year was scoring goals as Brady knows.

I'm actually a bit confused by Brady's talk of all the emphasis being on defensive signings because I would have thought that the first choice back 5 was already in place: Roberts, Mills, Horsfall, Guthrie, Harriman.

Surely we just need back up now in those areas? (Although I suppose he might want a more attack-minded rb than Harriman.)
Have you anyone in mind Bungle. If not what type of centre forward do you think best suits us. Given the apparent use of wingers I think someone with a bit of arial strength?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 03, 2021, 12:51:35 pm
The Stonner Kebab has a measly 3000 calories when combined with a large portion of chips.
Wash it down with a small bottle of Buckie and you add another 1000 calories, so that’s 4000 calories, not bad for a working lunch.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 03, 2021, 12:56:13 pm
The Stonner Kebab has a measly 3000 calories when combined with a large portion of chips.
Wash it down with a small bottle of Buckie and you add another 1000 calories, so that’s 4000 calories, not bad for a working lunch.
Youre heading towards a heart attack.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 03, 2021, 13:01:23 pm

I'm actually a bit confused by Brady's talk of all the emphasis being on defensive signings because I would have thought that the first choice back 5 was already in place: Roberts, Mills, Horsfall, Guthrie, Harriman.

Surely we just need back up now in those areas? (Although I suppose he might want a more attack-minded rb than Harriman.)


Whether it’s back ups, competition, or improvements we clearly need defenders as at present we have 4 players for 4 positions, while in attack if you include Chuks we have 6 for 2 positions. As I’ve said before I’d like to see us get shot of at least 2 attackers which would allow us to bring another in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 03, 2021, 13:50:40 pm
The Stonner Kebab has a measly 3000 calories when combined with a large portion of chips.
Wash it down with a small bottle of Buckie and you add another 1000 calories, so that’s 4000 calories, not bad for a working lunch.

Classic boomer, doesn't look after their body then relies on the NHS's handouts to look after them, lazy feckers!  ;D

(Just taking the Michael after your strange millennial outburst yesterday Manwork!  ;))


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 03, 2021, 16:58:46 pm
  Given the apparent use of wingers I think someone with a bit of arial strength?

Agreed. I don't think any of the strikers we currently have in the squad is really capable of winning balls in the air or proving aerial lay offs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 03, 2021, 17:08:48 pm
Morgan Roberts has gone to Banbury.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 03, 2021, 18:27:49 pm
What do you think of Jonny Maxted?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 03, 2021, 18:32:26 pm
Agreed. I don't think any of the strikers we currently have in the squad is really capable of winning balls in the air or proving aerial lay offs.

I think Rose can do this when the ball isn't too far away from him due to his leap; although his pace lets him down so he struggles to get on the end of a lot of balls.
Smith can to an extent but his positioning is often poor and is rarely in the right place to receive the ball, even though he is tall, strong and reasonably quick. I think by contrast Oliver was fantastic at being in the right position to receive clearances and this greatly complimented his obvious pace, height and strength.
Hopefully Kabamba can do this job for us? He certainly seems to have the raw physical attributes needed so it will depend on his ability to anticipate where a long ball is going to be played to, and to time his runs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 03, 2021, 20:05:14 pm
Quite  Royalist then?

Nope.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 03, 2021, 23:24:05 pm
Morgan Roberts has gone to Banbury.
That’s probably his level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 04, 2021, 09:36:04 am
Efl zone states that northampton are in advanced talk to sign former Liverpool striker Joe Hardy


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 04, 2021, 09:59:02 am
Efl zone states that northampton are in advanced talk to sign former Liverpool striker Joe Hardy

Would be an interesting signing but we would have way too many strikers. Would also leave Smith the only real talk/physical striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 04, 2021, 11:01:42 am
Would be an interesting signing but we would have way too many strikers. Would also leave Smith the only real talk/physical striker.

We are apparently after the bloke from BorehamWood as well. So I guess that 2 strikers will be leaving us; hopefully BAS and Smith.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 04, 2021, 11:14:24 am
We are apparently after the bloke from BorehamWood as well. So I guess that 2 strikers will be leaving us; hopefully BAS and Smith.

Sounds good to me!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 04, 2021, 11:33:24 am
We are apparently after the bloke from BorehamWood as well. So I guess that 2 strikers will be leaving us; hopefully BAS and Smith.
Plymouth interested as well
https://twitter.com/zoneefl2/status/1411620246742568968?s=21


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 04, 2021, 11:35:16 am
We are apparently after the bloke from BorehamWood as well. So I guess that 2 strikers will be leaving us; hopefully BAS and Smith.

Even if that did happen it would still leave us with 6 strikers for 2 positions none of which is a tall/physical player if we wanted to go to plan B. I think it would be unlikely we can offload BAS other than sending him out on loan with us still paying the majority of his wages. Hoskins or Rose would appear to be the more saleable in which case surely on last seasons performances Sam would be the preference to stay.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on July 04, 2021, 11:40:34 am
Even if that did happen it would still leave us with 6 strikers for 2 positions none of which is a tall/physical player if we wanted to go to plan B. I think it would be unlikely we can offload BAS other than sending him out on loan with us still paying the majority of his wages. Hoskins or Rose would appear to be the more saleable in which case surely on last seasons performances Sam would be the preference to stay.

Nicke Kabamba is 6'3"...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on July 04, 2021, 11:42:32 am
If anyone is interested in seeing a bit more of Joe Hardy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQZ01zwjipY

Looks like he's been limited to youth/B team football only but still seems to have a good amount of composure and looks like he's fairly quick too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 04, 2021, 11:54:55 am
Even if that did happen it would still leave us with 6 strikers for 2 positions none of which is a tall/physical player if we wanted to go to plan B. I think it would be unlikely we can offload BAS other than sending him out on loan with us still paying the majority of his wages. Hoskins or Rose would appear to be the more saleable in which case surely on last seasons performances Sam would be the preference to stay.

Hoskins patently is not a striker - he has played at centre back more recently than he has played as a striker

Of the 5 strikers we have - Kabamba, Rose, BAS, Smith and Chukwumeka - I'd imagine we'll most likely see 2 out of BAS, Smith and Chuks leave. Shouldn't be difficult to find a suitor for Smith whilst the challenge will be to keep hold of Chuks. I'd be surprised if Brady hasn't got Danny Rose as part of his plans.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 04, 2021, 12:00:04 pm
Hardy has a good goals to games played ratio at the level he has been playing. Also seems to have picked up a few injuries.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 04, 2021, 12:08:54 pm
I'd be surprised if Brady hasn't got Danny Rose as part of his plans.
Why? he was very peripheral at the end of last year under Brady and didn’t score in any of his last 24 appearances! I would rather see Chuks ahead of him in the order.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 04, 2021, 12:16:07 pm
Hoskins patently is not a striker - he has played at centre back more recently than he has played as a striker


I kind of agree and he seems best suited to playing as one of the wide players in a front three. If we end up playing 4-4-2 which is just speculation, I could see him being utilised as one of a front two (maybe behind the striker) rather than a winger, but who knows will the very versatile Hoskins.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 04, 2021, 15:45:53 pm
This hardy chap fits our profile

Unattached  ✅

No scoring pedigree at pro level ✅

A cert to sign


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 04, 2021, 15:55:33 pm
Efl zone states that northampton are in advanced talk to sign former Liverpool striker Joe Hardy

ACCRINGTON STANLEY; Appeared to have beaten Northampton to former Liverpool striker Joe Hardy
#ASFC #NTFC


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 04, 2021, 18:23:22 pm
Hardy has a good goals to games played ratio at the level he has been playing. Also seems to have picked up a few injuries.

Suits our DNA...Get him in now!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 04, 2021, 18:30:23 pm
Hardy played for Accrington as a trialist today.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 04, 2021, 21:38:36 pm
ACCRINGTON STANLEY; Appeared to have beaten Northampton to former Liverpool striker Joe Hardy
#ASFC #NTFC
That’s where we are in the pecking order just behind Accrington Stanley!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 04, 2021, 23:09:47 pm
Hardy played for Accrington as a trialist today.

Blimey....they've started early!!  a 3-0 win over Clitheroe.

Had a look at their website, the games may have started early but their season tickets don't even go in sale until next week! Thats at the early bird price of £229 for the terraced end. They are not even going to start selling seating season tickets until they receive "positive advice from the Government about the lowering of restrictions".


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 05, 2021, 07:20:29 am
That’s where we are in the pecking order just behind Accrington Stanley!

Look how far we have come! Losing players to Accrington Stanley for f@cks sake


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on July 05, 2021, 07:25:09 am
Just a reminder that he hasn't signed for Stanley and we don't know whether we were interested.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 05, 2021, 07:51:53 am
We also had posters telling us he was a Small, Injury prone, inexperienced waste of space!
Is that how far the Accys have sunk?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 05, 2021, 07:56:52 am
We also had posters telling us he was a Small, Injury prone, inexperienced waste of space!
Is that how far the Accys have sunk?
;D Those posts dont fit the agenda though!!

Any expected this week? First preseason game next weekend and know JB was keen to have most of it done by now.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 05, 2021, 09:33:06 am
An ex-Liverpool Striker, who can either play in Accrington next door to home in League 1, or Northampton on the other side of the country in League 2. It's an absolute no brainer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 05, 2021, 10:18:06 am
Expecting anything to happen this week ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 05, 2021, 16:02:58 pm
Cian Bolger just signed a deal for Larne in N. Ireland
League 1 to NIFL.. says it all really that doesn't it


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 05, 2021, 17:26:59 pm
It is going to be intersting to see how well Mills works out in pre-season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 05, 2021, 19:17:06 pm
It will be a boon if Mills comes back firing on all cylinders.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 05, 2021, 19:32:51 pm
It will be a boon if Mills comes back firing on all cylinders.

 ;D ;D You old romantic fool! ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 06, 2021, 13:45:03 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/how-is-cobblers-squad-shaping-up-ahead-of-the-new-season-3296630
What do we need, who will stay and who will be allowed to move on?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 06, 2021, 13:56:50 pm
Supposedly harry smith spotted around Leyton Orient ground


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 06, 2021, 14:05:43 pm
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/cambridge-united-exeter-city-newport-and-leyton-orient-eyeing-26-year-old-striker/

Two week old article


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 06, 2021, 14:07:43 pm
Supposedly harry smith spotted around Leyton Orient ground

That would be a bit of a shame in my opinion - I think there’s a player in there and it may come back to haunt us. If only it had been interest in BAS but I don’t think anyone would be stupid enough to take him off  our hands.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 06, 2021, 14:10:51 pm
That would be a bit of a shame in my opinion - I think there’s a player in there and it may come back to haunt us. If only it had been interest in BAS but I don’t think anyone would be stupid enough to take him off  our hands.
Second season of BAS’s contract……..loan with us paying some of his wages is our only hope.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 06, 2021, 14:13:37 pm
Second season of BAS’s contract……..loan with us paying some of his wages is our only hope.

Or that the penny finally drops (and he sorts his footwear out) and he gets a bit of confidence in pre-season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 06, 2021, 14:21:21 pm
It will be a boon if Mills comes back firing on all cylinders.
;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 06, 2021, 14:33:13 pm
Or that the penny finally drops (and he sorts his footwear out) and he gets a bit of confidence in pre-season.

Hold on, I'll get me gun for that flying pig.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: pattcobb on July 06, 2021, 14:50:01 pm
That would be a bit of a shame in my opinion - I think there’s a player in there and it may come back to haunt us. If only it had been interest in BAS but I don’t think anyone would be stupid enough to take him off  our hands.
I agree and having met him very briefly with my nephew, he's a decent sort of guy as well.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 06, 2021, 14:52:38 pm
I agree and having met him very briefly with my nephew, he's a decent sort of guy as well.
He’s got a lot of head problems which isn’t at all nice, I think he could do a job next season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 06, 2021, 14:59:54 pm
He’s got a lot of head problems which isn’t at all nice, I think he could do a job next season.
I had a quick glance at this and thought he'd got head lice  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 06, 2021, 16:07:13 pm
I had a quick glance at this and thought he'd got head lice  ;D
😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 06, 2021, 16:30:32 pm
I remember last year when someone asked on Facebook if they could do a family discount for the "Face in the crowd" cutouts as she couldn't afford one for each of her kids. Smith replied and offered to pay for them for her.

That sort of thing goes a long way with me - that's the mark of a fundamentally good person. He's not a Premier league fancy dan splashing around the cash, he's a fairly modestly paid League 2 player stumping up 150 quid, which would be a decent chunk out of his pay. I've been on his side ever since that, especially as I think there's a really good player in him (if you forget that he's a giant and pass the ball to his feet instead of his head!)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 06, 2021, 16:34:40 pm
Agreed with the above...if you play him then you have to play to his strengths....and they were not as a lone striker chasing balls hoofed over the top for him to run on to ala Curle.

He would do well in the classic "big guy little guy" striking partnership.

He's an asset I believe we'd be better off keeping than getting rid of.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 06, 2021, 17:06:27 pm
I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Harry Smith ended up scoring 15+ league goals for a div 2 club. When he turns up and given the right service he can play, I’ve always said it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 06, 2021, 17:20:29 pm
Agreed with the above...if you play him then you have to play to his strengths....and they were not as a lone striker chasing balls hoofed over the top for him to run on to ala Curle.

He would do well in the classic "big guy little guy" striking partnership.

He's an asset I believe we'd be better off keeping than getting rid of.
He might work with Rose who's better in the air than he should be. Pace or lack of it let's them down though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 06, 2021, 18:40:25 pm
We're beginning to clutch at straws. Smith and Rose up front would be one of the easiest combination of forwards to mark. Slow and inefficient with very little flair. 15 to 20 goals tops in a full league season playing together.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 06, 2021, 18:53:09 pm
I was thinking more of a Jamie Forrester type of player to play alongside Smith……Rose doesn’t fit the bill!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on July 07, 2021, 00:47:34 am
This thread has got so boring...  ::)
Hopefully something positive in the next few days...  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 07, 2021, 08:12:13 am
I like Harry Smith could easily come good if given some reasonable service. He can head the ball as proved at Stevenage; like the heavily loaded Lancaster Bomber sometimes difficult to get of the ground!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 07, 2021, 08:23:05 am
I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Harry Smith ended up scoring 15+ league goals for a div 2 club. When he turns up and given the right service he can play, I’ve always said it.

The trouble is he hasn’t turned up for 2 years…

Not sure why we should keep him for a 3rd just in case this is the year he decides to turn up?

Get shot of him, stealing a living.

Also offer BAS to the closest Sunday league team for free.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 07, 2021, 08:49:56 am
All of BAS's highlights showed him finishing crosses and cut backs delivered into the box, we might see a different player with genuine wingers at a lower level.

I also think both Rose and Smith have what it takes to score 15 goals in league 2


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 07, 2021, 10:18:47 am
Smith to Orient imminent it seems


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 07, 2021, 11:08:45 am
All of BAS's highlights showed him finishing crosses and cut backs delivered into the box, we might see a different player with genuine wingers at a lower level.

I also think both Rose and Smith have what it takes to score 15 goals in league 2
That highlights reel is mainly playing U23’s football, which I would say is not that physically demanding.
BAS so far has been awful and what’s worse is he has a bit of an attitude problem.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 07, 2021, 12:52:52 pm
Agreed with the above...if you play him then you have to play to his strengths....and they were not as a lone striker chasing balls hoofed over the top for him to run on to ala Curle.

He would do well in the classic "big guy little guy" striking partnership.

He's an asset I believe we'd be better off keeping than getting rid of.

Agreed - only sell if the offer is good enough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfc_kjd on July 07, 2021, 13:04:43 pm
Seems we’ve had a loan rejected for posh midfielder Ryan Broom
Posh only interested in selling according to the chron


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 07, 2021, 13:23:52 pm
Seems we’ve had a loan rejected for posh midfielder Ryan Broom
Posh only interested in selling according to the chron

I like the quote from Fry ‘I doubt they could even afford his wages’  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 07, 2021, 13:32:30 pm
I like the quote from Fry ‘I doubt they could even afford his wages’  ;D ;D
To think , we used to be rivals….


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 07, 2021, 13:44:13 pm
Do we even need another midfielder? Assuming we play a back 4 and 2 wide men with 1 striker being supported by Flores ( in the advanced Watson role) that leaves 2 midfield places available. We already have Lewis, Sowerby, McWilliams, Pollock and Cross fighting for 2 places and I'm not including Hoskins as a midfielder.
I think we have a greater need for new signings in defense and a quality striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 07, 2021, 14:03:33 pm
Do we even need another midfielder?Assuming we play a back 4 and 2 wide men with 1 striker being supported by Flores ( in the advanced Watson role) that leaves 2 midfield places available. We already have Lewis, Sowerby, McWilliams, Pollock and Cross fighting for 2 places and I'm not including Hoskins as a midfielder.
I think we have a greater need for new signings in defense and a quality striker.
JB thinks so!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 07, 2021, 14:45:03 pm
Do we even need another midfielder? Assuming we play a back 4 and 2 wide men with 1 striker being supported by Flores ( in the advanced Watson role) that leaves 2 midfield places available. We already have Lewis, Sowerby, McWilliams, Pollock and Cross fighting for 2 places and I'm not including Hoskins as a midfielder.
I think we have a greater need for new signings in defense and a quality striker.

Why would signing a midfielder mean that they couldn’t still sign more defenders or another forward?
There’s still 5 registration places in the squad as far as I know (think GPC did a post about this somewhere). 6 spots if/when Harry Smith leaves. Players under the age of 20 (or is it 21?) don't count towards the registration rules so we could also increase numbers that way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 07, 2021, 15:26:34 pm
https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1086690535?-1901:1002

I would guess there will be a fee albeit small for his services!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 07, 2021, 15:33:36 pm
https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1086690535?-1901:1002

I would guess there will be a fee albeit small for his services!

Hasn't really done much here if I'm honest but, good luck to the guy. Now we can get someone better in!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 07, 2021, 15:38:17 pm
Re Smith;

1. We were more than happy to let him go out on loan last season when we needed all hands to the pump.
2. From his point of view and his background (Millwall, Kent and so forth) it looks a good move, the best he could hope for.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 07, 2021, 15:38:19 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/striker-smith-leaves-cobblers-for-league-two-rivals-3299902


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 07, 2021, 15:42:14 pm
Best for both parties, it didn't work out for Smith here at all.

Wish him well.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 07, 2021, 16:15:36 pm
 On a different note, walsall have signed  Ash Taylor!   ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on July 07, 2021, 16:26:47 pm
On a different note, walsall have signed  Ash Taylor!   ;D

Now where is Walsall Saddler?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 07, 2021, 16:32:39 pm
On a different note, walsall have signed  Ash Taylor!   ;D

To be fair, they might have signed Bolger!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 07, 2021, 16:40:18 pm
Goalkeeping coach Dan Watson has also left the club to pursue another opportunity elsewhere.  James Alger comes (back) in to replace him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Onetouch on July 07, 2021, 17:51:04 pm
Goalkeeping coach Dave Watson has also left the club to pursue another opportunity elsewhere.  James Alger comes (back) in to replace him.
Back to Oldham with curle?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 07, 2021, 18:00:42 pm
Back to Oldham with curle?

No, it's reported he's going to Cheltenham Town.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 07, 2021, 18:06:21 pm
O'Coole, read my post again. Did I say that by signing another midfielder that we could not sign another striker and some defenders? No.
We only have 4 defenders excluding Dyche. If Dyche is not considered to be ready for a first team place yet then we need cover in all 4 positions plus a striker which fills 5 of our signing options.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 07, 2021, 18:14:44 pm
Seems we’ve had a loan rejected for posh midfielder Ryan Broom
Posh only interested in selling according to the chron
He’d be a decent permanent signing but getting him on loan would offer us nothing in the long term.
If we can’t afford him let’s try to sign players we can.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 07, 2021, 18:48:44 pm
O'Coole, read my post again. Did I say that by signing another midfielder that we could not sign another striker and some defenders? No.
We only have 4 defenders excluding Dyche. If Dyche is not considered to be ready for a first team place yet then we need cover in all 4 positions plus a striker which fills 5 of our signing options.

It was implied by saying there was "greater need" for the other positions.

Of course we need new defenders too, and they will be announced in the coming week or two. Almost certain that we will sign a new left back, right back, and at least one (but possibly two) new centre back. Probably at least one more midfielder and another striker now Smith has departed.

Deals can take a while to complete, no need to fret!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 08, 2021, 07:57:41 am
Best for both parties, it didn't work out for Smith here at all.

Wish him well.

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-smith-exit-works-for-everyone-3299973


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 08, 2021, 08:14:11 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-smith-exit-works-for-everyone-3299973
All depends who we replace him with?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 08, 2021, 09:39:12 am
All depends who we replace him with?

Absolutely, that’s what I say whenever we let anyone go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on July 08, 2021, 10:48:34 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-smith-exit-works-for-everyone-3299973

Surely 'undisclosed fee' will be put towards increasing offer for lad from Boreham Wood?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 08, 2021, 11:07:54 am
Surely 'undisclosed fee' will be put towards increasing offer for lad from Boreham Wood?

What’s the story with this guy from Boreham Wood - he seems to have been up near the top of the scoring charts in the Conference for the last couple of years but it doesn’t seem like any “bigger” clubs (like unfortunately P**h) have come in for him? 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 08, 2021, 12:52:41 pm
Goalkeeper Dylan Berry has left NTFC to sign his first professional contract with Norwich city


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 08, 2021, 13:07:46 pm
Presumably Norwich have to pay us some compensation fee for his development at NTFC.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 08, 2021, 13:29:58 pm
he must have been a better bet than mitchell last year - surely?!

have we announced it anywhere - saw it on their website yesterday



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 08, 2021, 13:31:58 pm
And unless something miraculous happens between now and next year, Chukwemeka will be next.  The system is totally screwed up where the Premiership and Championship hoover up all of the most talented youngsters in the lower divisions for a pittance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 08, 2021, 13:45:50 pm
he must have been a better bet than mitchell last year - surely?!


Thought that too. The same goes for Chuks, who I thought did a reasonable job at the end of the year, yet we had to put up with so many sh1t performances from Edmondson, Rose & BAS before he got much of a go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 08, 2021, 16:48:04 pm
It was not announced he was offered a contract, so I am assuming he was released at the end of his two year scholarship, so no fee involved. Same goes with Tom Scott who joined Sunderland.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 08, 2021, 17:28:51 pm
It was not announced he was offered a contract, so I am assuming he was released at the end of his two year scholarship, so no fee involved. Same goes with Tom Scott who joined Sunderland.

west stand oap has the answer above. We will be due compensation for both players. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 08, 2021, 17:39:17 pm
Dylan Berry had only been at the club just over two years so will be minimal compensation if any.

If players were released from their scholarship contracts then we are not entitled to anything, however both Scott and Berry were reported as joining their clubs from Northampton, suggesting they were under some sort of contract with us.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 08, 2021, 20:14:47 pm
When we sign players released by other clubs it's reported as player signing from 'xxxx'. The Norwich press release just states Berry is from Northampton Town, nothing about a transfer.

At no point has it been reported we have offered Berry and Scott contracts nor that they have turned contacts down.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on July 09, 2021, 09:52:39 am
Incoming at 11am


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 09, 2021, 09:54:38 am
When we sign players released by other clubs it's reported as player signing from 'xxxx'. The Norwich press release just states Berry is from Northampton Town, nothing about a transfer.

At no point has it been reported we have offered Berry and Scott contracts nor that they have turned contacts down.


It would be really silly to have not. All you have to do is offer the contract to be in line for compensation. Surely we see the talent in our own youth system.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 09, 2021, 09:59:11 am
Incoming at 11am

And it’s……………..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 09, 2021, 10:02:59 am
Sid Nelson!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 09, 2021, 10:04:58 am
Sidney Raymond Kenneth - poor sod, his parent's had it in for him, didn't they? ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 09, 2021, 10:05:35 am
Apparently we couldn't afford Bill.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 09, 2021, 10:10:20 am
Tranny fans seem to think he was solid with a great work ethic.

Welcome Sid.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 09, 2021, 10:21:19 am
The sort of player that I imagine will be very popular with cobblers fans. Body on the line is an understatement it would appear. Happy with our CB options now, one more would be nice but we have Dyche, not sure how ready he is though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 09, 2021, 10:25:55 am
Sid Nelson!  ;D

Spoken to a Newport fan and he says when he was there he was a pacey right-back, so hopefully a more versatile signing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 09, 2021, 10:50:47 am
Spoken to a Newport fan and he says when he was there he was a pacey right-back, so hopefully a more versatile signing!

Bit of a left field one for me, but if he can play in a couple of positions then that is great news.

Reasonably positive stance from former teams, so fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Saint Cobbler on July 09, 2021, 10:51:36 am
Anyone know why he only played 13 times last season?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 09, 2021, 10:55:10 am
Anyone know why he only played 13 times last season?

Something to do with them already having a good CB paring.

Sounds a good signing though, seems to be betting good reviews which makes a change!

I assume he was released by them in the summer?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 09, 2021, 10:55:52 am
Anyone know why he only played 13 times last season?
4 of those were in the FL Trophy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 09, 2021, 11:03:46 am
Something to do with them already having a good CB paring.

Sounds a good signing though, seems to be betting good reviews which makes a change!

I assume he was released by them in the summer?

I would assume that with them signing Callum McManaman significant monies needed to be freed up in their wage budget. I'm assuming he will be their top earner by a country mile!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 09, 2021, 11:03:57 am
Some good song/chant opportunities with Sid Nelson.
Welcome!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 09, 2021, 11:11:13 am
Would have to disagree with the Newport fan, pace is something I feel he lacks tbh. Looking at his past performances he has only played around 5% of his mins at RB so seems to be very much a rarity.

Its funny how playing style can dictate fans opinions on a player, completely committed to the cause, he has broken his nose a ton of times putting his head where it hurts. Probably why he has had such good reviews, players with that style always become fan favourites like Goode, Ravenhill etc.

Interesting to see which 2 Brady goes with.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 09, 2021, 11:29:03 am
I think Guthrie is the nailed on start
Down for Nelson and Horsfall to battle it out for the spot next to him

Would like 1 more CB in for depth although as already stated, like Dyche being a back up option
Think after that, some competition/depth at full back and squad is pretty much there


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 09, 2021, 11:33:52 am
Hope its not that cursed 3 at the back. Seems like a classic win everything in the air player, hopefully a little bit different to Bolger and Ash Taylor. But good there isnt an obvious starting pair, no laurel resting.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 09, 2021, 11:34:54 am
Personally, if they think Dyche is going to make it, then you have to back him to be the cover. Pointless for his development being the 5th choice CB.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 09, 2021, 11:51:25 am
Personally, if they think Dyche is going to make it, then you have to back him to be the cover. Pointless for his development being the 5th choice CB.

Absolutely. All clubs at our level should be backing their younger squad players. It's right on several levels. Opportunities for them, financially for the club, the right thing to be doing per the supporters. Bringing on your own talent.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 09, 2021, 12:17:07 pm
Personally, if they think Dyche is going to make it, then you have to back him to be the cover. Pointless for his development being the 5th choice CB.

Can't believe the Dyche kid is now donning a Cobblers shirt. My memories of him are as a little kid bouncing around indoor play areas with my daughter at numerous kids parties. Max was always an aggressive little sh*t back then. Like father like son  ;D It's only my daughter's age that made me realise that was over 10 years ago.
Always good to see a local breaking through.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 09, 2021, 12:22:37 pm
Can't believe the Dyche kid is now donning a Cobblers shirt. My memories of him are as a little kid bouncing around indoor play areas with my daughter at numerous kids parties. Max was always an aggressive little sh*t back then. Like father like son  ;D It's only my daughter's age that made me realise that was over 10 years ago.
Always good to see a local breaking through.

He played various sports with a friend of mine's son when he was younger - they report that he certainly took after his father in the, umm,  "competitiveness" stakes...  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 09, 2021, 13:01:52 pm
Personally, if they think Dyche is going to make it, then you have to back him to be the cover. Pointless for his development being the 5th choice CB.

Another former academy player - Josh Flanagan, is also a centre half.

So, we have 5 - Guthrie, Horsfall, Nelson, Dyche and Flanagan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 09, 2021, 13:10:39 pm
Another former academy player - Josh Flanagan, is also a centre half.

So, we have 5 - Guthrie, Horsfall, Nelson, Dyche and Flanagan.
Like to see us sign a good quality right back TBH and of course a marquee striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 09, 2021, 16:46:57 pm
The squad:

John Maxted (GK)
Liam Roberts (GK)

Michael Harriman (FB)
Fraser Horsfall (CB)
John Guthrie (CB)
Sid Nelson (CB)
Max Dyche (CB)   ++
Josh Flanagan  (CB)  ++
Joseph Mills (FB)

Jack Sowerby  (CM)
Scott Pollock  (CM)  ++
Shaun McWilliams (CM)
Jordan Flores (on loan from Hull City)  (CM)
Dylan Connolly  (CM)
Paul Lewis   (WM)
Mitch Pinnock   (WM)
Liam Cross  (CM)  ++

Sam Hoskins  (FW)
Benny Ashley-Seal   (FW)
Danny Rose  (FW)
Nicke Kabamba   (FW)
Caleb Chukwuemeka (FW)  ++

++ Underage players outside of EFL Rules

I make that 15 outfield players over the age of 21.....we're allowed 20.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 09, 2021, 17:16:50 pm
Sidney Raymond Kenneth - poor sod, his parent's had it in for him, didn't they? ;D
Mate on my site in London, a bit UN at times, we have had a Tardis, an Atilla, a Nelson, a Magic, a Marvellous, an Angel, thats just what I can think of, off the top of my head. And A truck full of ones that you could not pronounce.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 09, 2021, 17:19:24 pm
Can't wait to see the formation at Sileby, will hopefully give us a clue of what's to come.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 09, 2021, 17:28:01 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-excited-for-sileby-friendly-and-says-a-fair-few-trialists-could-be-involved-for-cobblers-3303120 (https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-excited-for-sileby-friendly-and-says-a-fair-few-trialists-could-be-involved-for-cobblers-3303120)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 09, 2021, 21:08:53 pm
It would be really silly to have not. All you have to do is offer the contract to be in line for compensation. Surely we see the talent in our own youth system.


In the Chron Brady has confirmed Berry was not offered a pro deal, so he would have been free to sign for whoever. I've no idea if he is any good and I doubt anyone commenting does either.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 09, 2021, 21:18:20 pm
In the Chron Brady has confirmed Berry was not offered a pro deal, so he would have been free to sign for whoever. I've no idea if he is any good and I doubt anyone commenting does either.

Seems odd that a prem academy would want him rather than Brackley or Corby if he didn't look to have potential. Very strange


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 09, 2021, 21:32:44 pm
Difference I guess is that they can have under 18s and under 21s on professional contracts with no need to play them for half a decade or more, just in case one or two come good, while clubs are at level only have the budget to keep a few on pro terms if they arent to play.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 09, 2021, 23:17:52 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-excited-for-sileby-friendly-and-says-a-fair-few-trialists-could-be-involved-for-cobblers-3303120 (https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-excited-for-sileby-friendly-and-says-a-fair-few-trialists-could-be-involved-for-cobblers-3303120)

Does anyone remember the name of that French midfielder who played on trial for us in pre-season either 2 or 3 years ago? Distinctly remember him looking very tidy at Fernie Fields. I'm pretty sure Curle decided against him and then he signed for a foreign side (perhaps in Greece or Turkey?) but really cannot remember his name..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 10, 2021, 07:41:49 am
Anyone else feel cautiously optimistic regarding our defence?
With our two centre back signings receiving positive reviews from departing clubs, both  of which Brady described as leaders , added to Horsefalls development, think we have good options on that front.
Mills was rated by FGR fans at this level and Im fairly confident we will apply himself well and Harriman is good enough for this level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on July 10, 2021, 08:09:17 am
Anyone else feel cautiously optimistic regarding our defence?
With our two centre back signings receiving positive reviews from departing clubs, both  of which Brady described as leaders , added to Horsefalls development, think we have good options on that front.
Mills was rated by FGR fans at this level and Im fairly confident we will apply himself well and Harriman is good enough for this level.


Looking O.K., especially with another experienced RB to come hopefully. Not yet convinced about the goalkeeping options though. Instead of 2 mediocre keepers would have preferred an experienced keeper in the Matt Duke mould with perhaps a young loanee as backup. A dodgy keeper will always cost you points over the course of the season, we don't want a repeat of last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 10, 2021, 08:23:24 am
Anyone else feel cautiously optimistic regarding our defence?
With our two centre back signings receiving positive reviews from departing clubs, both  of which Brady described as leaders , added to Horsefalls development, think we have good options on that front.
Mills was rated by FGR fans at this level and Im fairly confident we will apply himself well and Harriman is good enough for this level.

We need a right back IMO.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 10, 2021, 09:12:59 am
I think Mills is a decent LB at this level and Harriman provides very good cover on either side. With Mills seemingly prone to niggly injuries, Harriman will get game time on that side of the pitch. Plus there's Hoskins who can provide adequate cover at full back, so I think we really just need a first choice RB to round out the squad. Any additional signings would be a bonus.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 10, 2021, 10:46:07 am
I think Mills is a decent LB at this level and Harriman provides very good cover on either side. With Mills seemingly prone to niggly injuries, Harriman will get game time on that side of the pitch. Plus there's Hoskins who can provide adequate cover at full back, so I think we really just need a first choice RB to round out the squad. Any additional signings would be a bonus.
I forgot about Super Sam, TBF he was decent last time he played there.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 10, 2021, 10:48:43 am
Plus there's Hoskins who can provide adequate cover at full back

In my more fanciful moments I wonder whether Hoskins could actually be transformed into an outstanding full-back. He has all the attributes (work rate, decent tackling and pressing, pace on the recovery, ability to carry the ball forward at speed) and his deficiencies in terms of finishing and crossing would be a lot less of an issue. He played very well there against Sunderland. Have we been playing him out of position all this time?



 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on July 10, 2021, 11:47:56 am
Does anyone remember the name of that French midfielder who played on trial for us in pre-season either 2 or 3 years ago? Distinctly remember him looking very tidy at Fernie Fields. I'm pretty sure Curle decided against him and then he signed for a foreign side (perhaps in Greece or Turkey?) but really cannot remember his name..

Curtis Yebli


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 10, 2021, 12:45:28 pm
In my more fanciful moments I wonder whether Hoskins could actually be transformed into an outstanding full-back. He has all the attributes (work rate, decent tackling and pressing, pace on the recovery, ability to carry the ball forward at speed) and his deficiencies in terms of finishing and crossing would be a lot less of an issue. He played very well there against Sunderland. Have we been playing him out of position all this time?



 
I said exactly this about 4 years ago. There's a post I could reference but I camt be arsed.
I said at the time that if he learnt to tackle and mark (old terminology, but you get the drift) he could become a reasonable wingback.
Unfortunately I dont think the defensive side of his game has come on enough to get him a move to a higher level.
Could still be ok for us though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 10, 2021, 12:55:55 pm
We need a right back IMO.

Is defiantly the area we need to strengthen in now and  I think we will end up with a loanee that can cover both RB and LB on the cheap.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 10, 2021, 12:59:05 pm
Where do we think the trialists will be playing today then? Right-back, out-wide, up front?
Interesting to note that Sid was one of those trialists we've had for a week and a bit, and signed him off the back of it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 10, 2021, 14:11:36 pm
Some odd trialists, all of them defenders. Cameron McWilliams being back is the biggest shock! Also ex-Peterborough full back, who I had on trial who I remember being pacey.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 10, 2021, 15:18:47 pm
Some odd trialists, all of them defenders. Cameron McWilliams being back is the biggest shock! Also ex-Peterborough full back, who I had on trial who I remember being pacey.
Is it a shock though? Brady clearly has some different opinions to Curle and that’s probably a good thing. Would have an in depth knowledge of Cam, has worked with him presumably extensively, so perhaps it was to be expected?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 10, 2021, 15:20:26 pm
Is it a shock though? Brady clearly has some different opinions to Curle and that’s probably a good thing. Would have an in depth knowledge of Cam, has worked with him presumably extensively, so perhaps it was to be expected?
Sure, but its not often a player is released and then re-signed the following year.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 10, 2021, 20:06:11 pm
True.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mathius on July 10, 2021, 20:57:03 pm
Sure, but its not often a player is released and then re-signed the following year.

Did suggest he might get resigned. Spent last year with Cardiff U23s which would have helped his improvement. If he's injury-free definitely worth a contract. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 10, 2021, 21:22:16 pm
Did suggest he might get resigned. Spent last year with Cardiff U23s which would have helped his improvement. If he's injury-free definitely worth a contract. 

Thought the left back who played in the first half looked far superior to young Cameron...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 11, 2021, 14:43:12 pm
Would definitely like to see Debayo feature more against sterner opposition. This is what a Crawley said of David Sesay who featured at RB in the second half. "He is a right footed full back who can play either flank. Without being stand out he gets the job done. He plays and the side he is on is secure.

The thing that held him back at Crawley was his ability to play either side. Put him on the bench and you have cover at left and right back plus defensive midfield.

Imho a good player"

Considering we need cover at both full back positions that certainly would be of interest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 07:24:22 am
We need a right back IMO.

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-looking-to-strengthen-at-full-back-3303880


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 12, 2021, 09:18:36 am
I know it’s good to have versatility in the squad but doesn’t Harriman already fill this role?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 12, 2021, 12:46:09 pm
Our usual shopping trip up north, bit of depth at FB


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 12, 2021, 12:52:56 pm
Our usual shopping trip up north, bit of depth at FB

Another SPL escapee?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 12:54:47 pm
I see young Chucks is signing a pre contract with Club Bruges, so yet again we get fvck all transfer fee!  >:(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JeanGenie on July 12, 2021, 13:03:56 pm
A McGowan (no, not that one...)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 12, 2021, 13:11:26 pm
I see young Chucks is signing a pre contract with Club Bruges, so yet again we get fvck all transfer fee!  >:(

Can we not send him there now?

Doesn’t want to be here…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 12, 2021, 13:14:55 pm
More FB cover, at least with a decent amount of experience at this level.

Not sure if Harriman is considered JB's starting FB or not?

On the subject of Chuk, not sure what more the club can do. Trying to offer him a deal but he clearly has eyes on being elsewhere.

Should we make use of him whilst he is here or try and get rid?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 13:15:02 pm
A McGowan (no, not that one...)

This one Jean ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_McGowan

If so from Kilmarnock and looks useful? A right back too and another 6 footer!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 12, 2021, 13:32:21 pm
Gonna need a dressing room interpereter at this rate.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on July 12, 2021, 13:48:08 pm
Not sure if I've missed anyone but the current squad situation:

Goalkeepers: Liam Roberts, Johnny Maxted

Defenders: Michael Harriman, Joseph Mills, Fraser Horsfall, Jon Guthrie, Sid Nelson, Aaron McGowan

Midfielders: Shaun McWilliams, Jack Sowerby, Scott Pollock, Paul Lewis, Mitch Pinnock, Dylan Connolly, Jordan Flores

Forwards: Sam Hoskins, Danny Rose, Benny Ashley-Seal, Nicke Kabamba, Caleb Chukwuemeka

Would still like to see another Striker come in, especially if Caleb is off to Brugge, and another option at Left Back too as I'm not sold on what I saw of Mills last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 13:53:12 pm
Gonna need a dressing room interpereter at this rate.

Aren't most of these signed from Scottish clubs actually English?
McGowan is from Loserpool.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 12, 2021, 14:15:46 pm
 and another option at Left Back too as I'm not sold on what I saw of Mills last season.

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Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the younger McWilliams get a 1yr deal for peanuts to fill this space, or a loanee?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 12, 2021, 14:19:51 pm
To be fair to Mills looking at his career and particularly his time with Forest Green, hopefully last season was an anomaly and with a full pre-season under his belt he will be back to the player we though we’d signed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 12, 2021, 14:44:51 pm
I see young Chucks is signing a pre contract with Club Bruges, so yet again we get fvck all transfer fee!  >:(

Twitter rumour suggests he would move there with no fee after NTFC rejected numerous bids from Premier League and Championship clubs?

https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1414558731703095297?s=20

Surely not?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 12, 2021, 15:34:09 pm
Curtis Yebli

That's the one! Thank you kind sir


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 12, 2021, 15:40:21 pm
Twitter rumour suggests he would move there with no fee after NTFC rejected numerous bids from Premier League and Championship clubs?

https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1414558731703095297?s=20

Surely not?

Frustrating if true, if the club had accepted £100k for example for him the club would have been accused of selling too cheap and with no vision or plan or balls to stand up to the bigger clubs
Now it looks like we lose out completely
I feel for the club on this one


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 12, 2021, 15:42:56 pm
Frustrating if true, if the club had accepted £100k for example for him the club would have been accused of selling too cheap and with no vision or plan or balls to stand up to the bigger clubs
Now it looks like we lose out completely
I feel for the club on this one

OK make him finish his apprenticeship cleaning the Sixseats bogs with a toothbrush, while holding a picture of his agent in the other hand.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 12, 2021, 15:43:42 pm
OK make him finish his apprenticeship cleaning the Sixseats bogs with a toothbrush, while holding a picture of his agent in the other hand.

Agreed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 12, 2021, 15:51:01 pm
The best option for the club now regarding Chukwuemeka would probably be to offer him out to the higher level English clubs for a small fee (possibly), but crucially ask for a sell-on fee percentage (e.g. 5-10% of next sale). That way, if he does turn out to be rather good, we can at least get something like what we should be owed at this stage further down the line. If we don't and he goes to Bruges then we will literally get nothing. The club really shouldn't dig their heels in over this.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 12, 2021, 16:06:08 pm
The club have no say regarding Caleb
He will soon be a free agent.
It’s up to him and his agent where he goes and if Bruges have made them a good offer that’s where he will go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: itsme on July 12, 2021, 16:28:25 pm
James from the Chron said on twitter there will be at least 2 more to come possibly 3 he said lb and striker were the 2 no idea about number 3


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 16:40:46 pm
James from the Chron said on twitter there will be at least 2 more to come possibly 3 he said lb and striker were the 2 no idea about number 3

Who is the striker as there appears to be very few around and mostly out of our price range.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 12, 2021, 16:51:12 pm
Decent strikers cost money and it’d be exciting to think we’d sign one but despite the new revolution something tells me we will be trying to scrounge one on loan….


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 12, 2021, 17:35:33 pm
Aren't most of these signed from Scottish clubs actually English?
McGowan is from Loserpool.
I recall being at a service station just outside Glasgow, and the guy serving me was a Sikh. Dressed in full ceremonial uniform. He only lacked a sword. Very impressive and smart. He also had the strongest Glaswegian accent that I have ever heard. Not what you expect.
And something popped up on Facebook a couple of days ago. You know how Parrots love to talk? Well this one had an accent.
And the concept of a combined Scot/Scouse accent doesnt sit well with me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 12, 2021, 18:06:35 pm
McGowan appears to have had quite a good career until last season. Aged 16 the youngest player for Morecambe where he was player of the season in 2017-18, then turned down a new 3 year contract and joined Hamilton Accies for the next 2 seasons and player of the season in both. Again turned down a new contract offer and joined Kilmarnock whose forum is less than complimentary "came in all Billie Big Bollocks saying what he could do for us", "wanted to leave in September instead of fighting for his place after being dropped" and "very disappointing after his good performances for the Accies".
According to one Killie poster we are "in for a shocker of a season with a striker with the touch of a snooker table cushion, a winger with zero pace and a RB that offers nothing going forward and has a mistake in him at the back". Time will tell but I doubt that our recruitment is that bad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 12, 2021, 19:34:42 pm
I recall being at a service station just outside Glasgow, and the guy serving me was a Sikh. Dressed in full ceremonial uniform. He only lacked a sword. Very impressive and smart. He also had the strongest Glaswegian accent that I have ever heard. Not what you expect.
And something popped up on Facebook a couple of days ago. You know how Parrots love to talk? Well this one had an accent.
And the concept of a combined Scot/Scouse accent doesnt sit well with me.
Mr Singh’s in Glasgow, after my Stonner lunch I like nothing more than going to Mr Singh for a blinding curry washed down with 8 or 9 pints of heavy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 12, 2021, 20:29:45 pm
Mr Singh’s in Glasgow, after my Stonner lunch I like nothing more than going to Mr Singh for a blinding curry washed down with 8 or 9 pints of heavy.
Thats some calorie intake.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 22:16:56 pm
McGowan appears to have had quite a good career until last season. Aged 16 the youngest player for Morecambe where he was player of the season in 2017-18, then turned down a new 3 year contract and joined Hamilton Accies for the next 2 seasons and player of the season in both. Again turned down a new contract offer and joined Kilmarnock whose forum is less than complimentary "came in all Billie Big Bollocks saying what he could do for us", "wanted to leave in September instead of fighting for his place after being dropped" and "very disappointing after his good performances for the Accies".
According to one Killie poster we are "in for a shocker of a season with a striker with the touch of a snooker table cushion, a winger with zero pace and a RB that offers nothing going forward and has a mistake in him at the back". Time will tell but I doubt that our recruitment is that bad.

When in Perth following Agricola's campaign path went to a cafe for tea and sandwiches, was served by a very young waitress 'who asked me would I like a pot of tea' in a accent/language I had never experienced before such was the manner in how it was delivered! Fortunately somebody intervened and acted as my personal interpreter whilst in the Cafe.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 13, 2021, 11:39:50 am
Anyone else struggling to keep up, the below might help!

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 13, 2021, 11:46:37 am
Anyone else struggling to keep up, the below might help!

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock


So, all we need to do is add a left back and hey presto, it's our new starting XI.

Just the small matter of getting the FA to allow the use of two goalkeepers!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 13, 2021, 12:07:00 pm
So, all we need to do is add a left back and hey presto, it's our new starting XI.

Just the small matter of getting the FA to allow the use of two goalkeepers!  ;D

Hoskins left back, dilemma sorted.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on July 13, 2021, 12:33:34 pm
When in Perth following Agricola's campaign path went to a cafe for tea and sandwiches, was served by a very young waitress 'who asked me would I like a pot of tea' in a accent/language I had never experienced before such was the manner in how it was delivered! Fortunately somebody intervened and acted as my personal interpreter whilst in the Cafe.

I'd never heard of Agricola. You learn something new every day !


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 13, 2021, 14:22:28 pm
I'd never heard of Agricola. You learn something new every day !

Google him - hammered the Scoti


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 13, 2021, 16:51:54 pm
Google him - hammered the Scoti
Should have beamed him up.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 13, 2021, 17:27:49 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-explains-why-cobblers-have-handed-out-two-year-contracts-to-most-new-signings-3305510


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 13, 2021, 19:17:40 pm
Thats some calorie intake.
Exactly, I like to take it easy with that lot during the week, then I can really let my hair down with some proper eating and drinking at the weekends, usually finished off with a fist fight in George Square about 4am.
Bring on the Buckie!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 14, 2021, 11:21:28 am
Striker will be bought with actual money when Caleb moves on, apparently...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 14, 2021, 11:50:59 am
Striker will be bought with actual money when Caleb moves on, apparently...
We’ll blow me down  :o

Seeing is believing!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 14, 2021, 12:09:09 pm
Striker will be bought with actual money when Caleb moves on, apparently...

Means nothing, we paid money for players last summer who haven’t impressed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 14, 2021, 12:26:06 pm
Means nothing, we paid money for players last summer who haven’t impressed.
It’s better intent than a perm kid loan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 14, 2021, 12:31:27 pm
Striker will be bought with actual money when Caleb moves on, apparently...

I assume that's 'if' because it would not make sense to delay and miss out on a target to save a tiny amount on wages waiting for Caleb ti leave.

Personally I would do everything possible to keep Caleb rather than spend money on a fee for someone else.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 14, 2021, 12:35:01 pm
It’s better intent than a perm kid loan.

+


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 14, 2021, 12:35:34 pm
I assume that's 'if' because it would not make sense to delay and miss out on a target to save a tiny amount on wages waiting for Caleb ti leave.

Personally I would do everything possible to keep Caleb rather than spend money on a fee for someone else.
His agent is running things he’s leaving.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on July 14, 2021, 12:35:47 pm

Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the younger McWilliams get a 1yr deal for peanuts to fill this space, or a loanee?

And, of course, Camron McWilliams is 20 years old, so being under 21 would not count towards the 20 player limit


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on July 14, 2021, 14:04:30 pm
Why would Caleb leaving make any difference on paying money for anything. He is hardly taking up much of the playing budget is he? and there is nothing to suggest anyone will pay money to us for signing him? Or have I missed something somewhere?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 14, 2021, 14:21:30 pm
Why would Caleb leaving make any difference on paying money for anything. He is hardly taking up much of the playing budget is he? and there is nothing to suggest anyone will pay money to us for signing him? Or have I missed something somewhere?

I am the same as you. Surely they are hoping he stays or its of zero relevance.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 14, 2021, 14:57:08 pm
I think Caleb is a great player, although from the littke we've seen still needs to learn a lot, which I'm sure he will.
Would love him to stay but clearly either he or his agent think he's too good for us. So personally I hope he leaves quickly. We need people who want to be at the club not players who take far more headlines about them staying than they deserve, and let the rest of the squad form the sort of bond that helps win leagues


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 14, 2021, 14:58:56 pm
I think Caleb is a great player, although from the littke we've seen still needs to learn a lot, which I'm sure he will.
Would love him to stay but clearly either he or his agent think he's too good for us. So personally I hope he leaves quickly. We need people who want to be at the club not players who take far more headlines about them staying than they deserve, and let the rest of the squad form the sort of bond that helps win leagues

Good post Woody agree.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 14, 2021, 15:14:43 pm
Re. FC Bruges:
That would be great move for our Chuck.
Winners of the League
30,000 capacity stadium
Reputation for bringing on young talent
Best beer in the world
Best chocolate in the world

I don’t believe this nonsense about freeing up money for a new striker! Doesn’t make sense given Chuck’s likely wages.
I Do agree though - if you don’t wanna be somewhere then it’s best for all concerned if you ain’t there!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 14, 2021, 15:40:32 pm
Re. FC Bruges:
That would be great move for our Chuck.
Winners of the League
30,000 capacity stadium
Reputation for bringing on young talent
Best beer in the world
Best chocolate in the world

I don’t believe this nonsense about freeing up money for a new striker! Doesn’t make sense given Chuck’s likely wages.
I Do agree though - if you don’t wanna be somewhere then it’s best for all concerned if you ain’t there!

Could it be because the contract offer they've actually made to him is far better than we think?

If so, until he accepts or rejects (or the club withdraws), that money will be set aside from the budget.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 14, 2021, 15:46:22 pm
It’s better intent than a perm kid loan.

Really, we signed Morton on loan who played a big part in getting us promoted. We signed BAS & Rose for fees who played a big part in getting us relegated. While I understand a preference for a contracted player for longer term strategy the priory is to sign good players above everything.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 14, 2021, 16:13:01 pm
Maybe the cash signing is linked to the other Chuck...?

I think wait and see what pans out. Pretty sure it's zero to do with wages though and more about cash to buy someone. Don't pay out until the other is confirmed, surely?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 14, 2021, 16:31:07 pm
Maybe the cash signing is linked to the other Chuck...?

I think wait and see what pans out. Pretty sure it's zero to do with wages though and more about cash to buy someone. Don't pay out until the other is confirmed, surely?

I hope you are right Wandering.
Happy to keep hold of Chuck but if we lose him then I see Kabongo Tshimanga is still sloshing about somewhere in the transfer ether!! I’d be happy to see him come in as a replacement.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 14, 2021, 22:15:26 pm
Re. FC Bruges:
That would be great move for our Chuck.
Winners of the League
30,000 capacity stadium
Reputation for bringing on young talent
Best beer in the world
Best chocolate in the world

I don’t believe this nonsense about freeing up money for a new striker! Doesn’t make sense given Chuck’s likely wages.
I Do agree though - if you don’t wanna be somewhere then it’s best for all concerned if you ain’t there!

Dear Jimbo,
There are two FC Bruges, that is Club Brugge and Cercle Brugge, both play in the same stadium, one attracts gates of approx 21000 the other 5400! Often wondered which Club people refer to. Hope his Agent/Chucks know. Expect Coolie can help?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 14, 2021, 23:22:58 pm
Dear Jimbo,
There are two FC Bruges, that is Club Brugge and Cercle Brugge, both play in the same stadium, one attracts gates of approx 21000 the other 5400! Often wondered which Club people refer to. Hope his Agent/Chucks know. Expect Coolie can help?

Oh well, I guess the beer and chocolate are still the best no matter which FC Bruges he ends up at?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 15, 2021, 06:50:22 am
Could it be because the contract offer they've actually made to him is far better than we think?

If so, until he accepts or rejects (or the club withdraws), that money will be set aside from the budget.

Exactly that. While his contract offer remains on the table, we can’t make a similar offer to another striker…

You’d assume if we find another target they would take chucks offer off the table.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 15, 2021, 07:03:16 am
Exactly that. While his contract offer remains on the table, we can’t make a similar offer to another striker…

You’d assume if we find another target they would take chucks offer off the table.

Are you saying they can’t do both, keep Chucks and sign (paying a transfer fee), due to financial restraints? If so we are not even contemplating the ‘Boro method! Simply increase our offer based on the hope that some big club will come in anyway? I know which option Shoey would take 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 15, 2021, 07:34:27 am
Oh well, I guess the beer and chocolate are still the best no matter which FC Bruges he ends up at?
"How did you chose which club to sign for?"

"I preferred Affligem to Phipps"


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 15, 2021, 08:01:38 am
Are you saying they can’t do both, keep Chucks and sign (paying a transfer fee), due to financial restraints? If so we are not even contemplating the ‘Boro method! Simply increase our offer based on the hope that some big club will come in anyway? I know which option Shoey would take 8)
If I was a player choosing between a League 2 side and a Champions League side, I don't even care if the League two side is offering twice the wages, its a very obvious choice.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 08:21:24 am
Are you saying they can’t do both, keep Chucks and sign (paying a transfer fee), due to financial restraints? If so we are not even contemplating the ‘Boro method! Simply increase our offer based on the hope that some big club will come in anyway? I know which option Shoey would take 8)
Have we not just got one high earning striker off the books in Harry smith?

Are people now saying we need to get chuks off the wage bill as well to bring a new striker in  ;D

Chucks is on a scholarship , if he’s on more than £200 a week I’d be amazed.

Him staying or leaving would be of no consequence to us buying a decent striker.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 08:39:52 am
Really, we signed Morton on loan who played a big part in getting us promoted. We signed BAS & Rose for fees who played a big part in getting us relegated. While I understand a preference for a contracted player for longer term strategy the priory is to sign good players above everything.
Morton was of zero long term benefit to us as a club.
I think we could probably buy him for £250,000 now if we had the ambition and imo it’s no gamble as he would score 20+ goals and be sold on for a million pounds plus.

We won’t do that ,another club will and will reap the long term rewards.
We will continue spending 50k or less and wondering why we can’t emulate Peterborough!!

These sort of loans are only worthwhile if there is an option to buy involved.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 15, 2021, 09:04:57 am
the problem with players like Caleb is that you have to pay them disproportionate wages in order to keep them . It’s a real risk because you end up nurturing a player at your own cost for someone else to reap the reward .
Other teams can gamble on paying potential talent higher wages .
There is no way we will keep him and my guess is that he will end up at Posh .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 15, 2021, 09:06:11 am
Morton was of zero long term benefit to us as a club.
I think we could probably buy him for £250,000 now if we had the ambition and imo it’s no **** as he would score 20+ goals and be sold on for a million pounds plus.

We won’t do that ,another club will and will reap the long term rewards.
We will continue spending 50k or less and wondering why we can’t emulate Peterborough!!

These sort of loans are only worthwhile if there is an option to buy involved.

His Injury record suggests it would be a big gamble. He has had 2 very bad injuries at a young age.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 09:40:06 am
Would you not sign him given the chance??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 15, 2021, 09:44:10 am
Morton was of zero long term benefit to us as a club.
I think we could probably buy him for £250,000 now if we had the ambition and imo it’s no **** as he would score 20+ goals and be sold on for a million pounds plus.

We won’t do that ,another club will and will reap the long term rewards.
We will continue spending 50k or less and wondering why we can’t emulate Peterborough!!

These sort of loans are only worthwhile if there is an option to buy involved.

So by your rationale there is no point signing an experienced older pro like Ian Taylor as they have no sell on value, even if like Morton they are instrumental in getting you promoted?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 15, 2021, 09:47:42 am
Would you not sign him given the chance??

I would but but you were saying its not a gamble and we would make a substantial profit. Where as its possible :

-He does not return the same player he was.
-He picks up another long term injury stumping his development whilst here.
-His time here is blighted by injury as his contract winds down and then leaves on a free. 



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 15, 2021, 10:16:40 am
Have we not just got one high earning striker off the books in Harry smith?

Are people now saying we need to get chuks off the wage bill as well to bring a new striker in  ;D

Chucks is on a scholarship , if he’s on more than £200 a week I’d be amazed.

Him staying or leaving would be of no consequence to us buying a decent striker.



Its not that difficult to follow to be honest.

Chucks is on a scholarship, getting paid peanuts until January. He has been offered a contract which he may or may not sign. The contract offer being open it is restricting our ability to sign another striker.

To sign another striker it is likely that we will need to remove the offer given to Chucks and just let his scholarship run its course.

It sounds like we are not in a position to offer a half decent striker a £2k* a week deal for 2* years for Chuck to turn up on October and sign his £2k* a week deal over a 3* year contract.

*these figures are completely made up but can't be to far off!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: claretparrot on July 15, 2021, 10:30:53 am
Its not that difficult to follow to be honest.

Chucks is on a scholarship, getting paid peanuts until January. He has been offered a contract which he may or may not sign. The contract offer being open it is restricting our ability to sign another striker.

To sign another striker it is likely that we will need to remove the offer given to Chucks and just let his scholarship run its course.

It sounds like we are not in a position to offer a half decent striker a £2k* a week deal for 2* years for Chuck to turn up on October and sign his £2k* a week deal over a 3* year contract.

*these figures are completely made up but can't be to far off!



Isn't this all based on the assumption that we can't revoke either offer?

Personally I'd continue the search and make an offer if a suitable target is identified. At that point you tell Chuk it's now or never - if the other bloke signs we're going to pull your offer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 15, 2021, 10:35:39 am
There is no way in a million years that if Charlie Goode, a centre-back of middling football age, is sold for £1m, that Callum Morton, a youngster in the most expensive position at football, is getting sold for £250,000.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 10:39:22 am
There is no way in a million years that if Charlie Goode, a centre-back of middling football age, is sold for £1m, that Callum Morton, a youngster in the most expensive position at football, is getting sold for £250,000.
He’s had one decent spell in his career.
If I was West Brom I’d snap up £250,000 and put in a 10% sell on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 15, 2021, 11:00:44 am
His minutes per goal with us is better than Jordan-Clarke Harris for Peterborough who went for £1.25 million. West Brom don't need to sell, they're not a club that reliant on transfer money in to survive. You might be able to get that Boreham wood striker for £250,000, but I think you're in the completely wrong ball-park for how much it would cost to be able to buy Morton. If it was that cheap, other teams in League One would have paid out for that easily.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 15, 2021, 11:06:20 am
He’s had one decent spell in his career.
If I was West Brom I’d snap up £250,000 and put in a 10% sell on.

Nonsense. To West Brom, £250k means probably less than a tenth of what it would mean to NTFC. Why would they give up their talented young striker for a pittance, when he has just:
- had a prolific burst of scoring and looking sh+t hot
- gained many new admirers - this doesn't just disappear after one transfer window
- signed a bumper new long term deal with West Brom


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 15, 2021, 11:09:58 am
Isn't this all based on the assumption that we can't revoke either offer?

Personally I'd continue the search and make an offer if a suitable target is identified. At that point you tell Chuk it's now or never - if the other bloke signs we're going to pull your offer.

Reading the Chrons comments the offer is absolutely revokeable.

You'd assume by the end of the summer it would have been.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 15, 2021, 11:22:47 am
Reading the Chrons comments the offer is absolutely revokeable.

You'd assume by the end of the summer it would have been.

My take on this is that Caleb is our number one transfer target.

However, it does appear that his head is turned elsewhere.

I would not be at all surprised to see him sign permanently elsewhere (UK or abroad) but for him to be loaned straight back to us to continue his development, whilst not having to relocate at such a young age.

All IMO.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on July 15, 2021, 11:41:10 am
There is an interesting website www.salarysport.com that purports to show earnings for every professional sportsmen. It is probably a load of bollocks but looking at the premiership salaries appears to be in the right ballpark. According to this site Ivan Toney, for instance, last year earned just over £1m while Callum Morton is reported to be on 30K.

Looking at the Cobblers players salaries last year only one of the top 7 earners is still at the club, Danny Rose on £2.4K per week. High earners (all over £2K a week) included Bolger, Lines, and Martin plus the 3 loanees, Racic, Nuttall and Mitchell. If this is anywhere near correct it shows an amazing lack of judgement on the part of Curle and co.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: just.reading on July 15, 2021, 11:50:54 am
Nonsense. To West Brom, £250k means probably less than a tenth of what it would mean to NTFC. Why would they give up their talented young striker for a pittance, when he has just:
- had a prolific burst of scoring and looking sh+t hot
- gained many new admirers - this doesn't just disappear after one transfer window
- signed a bumper new long term deal with West Brom

Going back a while but I remember WBA selling Simon Cox for next to nothing (relative to them) to Swindon after a bidding war with us, after he'd had two decent loan spells. They also bought him back from Swindon for £1.5m!

I think if someone came in for Morton with £500k they wouldn't turn it down.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 15, 2021, 12:30:27 pm
Nonsense. To West Brom, £250k means probably less than a tenth of what it would mean to NTFC. Why would they give up their talented young striker for a pittance, when he has just:
- had a prolific burst of scoring and looking sh+t hot
- gained many new admires - this doesn't just disappear after one transfer window
- signed a bumper new long term deal with West Brom

I think most of us are ignoring his injury record. At the quoted £250k fee yes it is a pittance to WBA but I would dispute those who claim £250k is easily payable by some League One Clubs; where is the evidence to support this please? For me the best options are arrange a loan or two pay the £250k( >:D) and put up with the add ins! In any case our current sel committee might be at odds with some on here regarding paying £250k plus his salary on a player with past injury problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 15, 2021, 12:39:42 pm
So by your rationale there is no point signing an experienced older pro like Ian Taylor as they have no sell on value, even if like Morton they are instrumental in getting you promoted?

Actually he is not saying that at all. IMO of course?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on July 15, 2021, 12:43:17 pm
Projected turnover the Cobblers next season, around 5million? Maybe a bit less...

Wage budget - 1.5-1.7 million? Im making these numbers up by the way but they wont be a million miles out.

So, for argument sake you spend 500k on a striker. Plus 200k a year in wages, because it would be at least that...

Thats 700k - around 15% of your turnover on one person amongst a squad of 20plus, managers, coaches, admin staff, chief exec, you name it.

IF that person doesn't deliver, then what?

The simple maths are thus. IF you can afford to g@mble, like the Posh chairman does, then go for it. If you cannot afford to g@mble, then you don't. Its simples, really.

Such a transfer fee would have to be ON TOP of your player budget, relative to this level because if you chop 1.7million down to 1million (for the rest of the squad) to facilitate the signing of one player, you won't be good enough to compete.

The only way you can do this in the lower leagues is if your a huge club (like Sunderland/Portsmouth) with a vastly superior turnover than your rivals, OR you've got a rich owner who is prepared to try his/her luck like McAnthony does.

Not hard to understand, really  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 12:50:36 pm
Projected turnover the Cobblers next season, around 5million? Maybe a bit less...

Wage budget - 1.5-1.7 million? Im making these numbers up by the way but they wont be a million miles out.

So, for argument sake you spend 500k on a striker. Plus 200k a year in wages, because it would be at least that...

Thats 700k - around 15% of your turnover on one person amongst a squad of 20plus, managers, coaches, admin staff, chief exec, you name it.

IF that person doesn't deliver, then what?

The simple maths are thus. IF you can afford to g@mble, like the Posh chairman does, then go for it. If you cannot afford to g@mble, then you don't. Its simples, really.

Such a transfer fee would have to be ON TOP of your player budget, relative to this level because if you chop 1.7million down to 1million (for the rest of the squad) to facilitate the signing of one player, you won't be good enough to compete.

The only way you can do this in the lower leagues is if your a huge club (like Sunderland/Portsmouth) with a vastly superior turnover than your rivals, OR you've got a rich owner who is prepared to try his/her luck like McAnthony does.

Not hard to understand, really  ;D
I was under the impression the new plan was to copy the Peterborough model and imo we have bought in the right back room staff to achieve this.
The issue is that when the posh receive income from sales they reinvest the money in the next purchase.

Now how much of the alleged £1m pound Goode money have the cobblers reinvested in transfer fees for the next purchase???

I’d imagine it’ll be on the goalscorer we desperately need having bottomed the charts in that department last season….

Or are we not following the posh formula for success now the season ticket money is in ….??

Come on KT make us the next Peterborough or Luton rather than a two bob league two team continually treading water.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 15, 2021, 13:27:38 pm
Actually he is not saying that at all. IMO of course?



Wasn’t the argument for not signing players on loan that it offers no long term benefit to the club because after a year they are gone and there is no sell on value. I would say that is very similar to signing an experienced pro for a year at the end of their career. While I’d agree there’s no point developing another’s teams player who isn’t contributing (Edmondson) With  a player like Morton who was miles ahead of anything we had the season just gone and contributed massively to getting us promoted I don’t see a problem. Some people seem to be stuck on this transfer hierarchy where players signed for fees are best, then free transfers while players signed on loan are bad, when in reality this isn’t backed up by the facts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 15, 2021, 13:40:18 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57823175

I wonder if this would be a catalyst for Danny Rose departing back to Mansfield?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 15, 2021, 13:51:07 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57823175

I wonder if this would be a catalyst for Danny Rose departing back to Mansfield?

Mansfield have already signed Danny Johnson from Orient and Ollie Hawkins from Ipswich so I highly doubt they’re in the market for another striker, especially one on decent wages.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 14:02:28 pm
If we were in for an experienced striker it’s worth noting that Luton have just signed a new striker so I imagine Danny Hylton would now be available….


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 15, 2021, 14:06:15 pm
Anything happening ntfclad?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 15, 2021, 14:11:55 pm
If we were in for an experienced striker it’s worth noting that Luton have just signed a new striker so I imagine Danny Hylton would now be available….

I didn’t realise that James Collins has gone to Cardiff on a free, just shows that we’re not the only ones to lose key players to free agency - that will leave a bit of a hole.  As an aside Admiral is a cracking name!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 15, 2021, 15:32:53 pm
I think most of us are ignoring his injury record. At the quoted £250k fee yes it is a pittance to WBA but I would dispute those who claim £250k is easily payable by some League One Clubs; where is the evidence to support this please? For me the best options are arrange a loan or two pay the £250k( >:D) and put up with the add ins! In any case our current sel committee might be at odds with some on here regarding paying £250k plus his salary on a player with past injury problems.

Not too sure what point you are trying to make here. It doesn't matter one jot if £250k is easily payable by League One clubs or not (which for most you are correct to assume it wouldn't be) - a player doesn't move unless the buying club can agree a fee with a selling club.

The £250k is an arbitrary figure someone has come up with probably a couple of pages back now. As I've already said, it's nonsense to assume Morton would have been available for that price last summer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 15, 2021, 16:01:16 pm
I also notice that Van Veen has got the dream move abroad that a player of his stature deserves - he’s gone to Motherwell.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 15, 2021, 16:02:00 pm
Scott Quigley has just left Barrow. 15 goals in L2 last season and 20 in the conference the season before. 15 goals in a side that finished 21st is impressive. Apparently wants to move closer to home (Shrewsbury). No idea where he will end up, and we are only just over an hour closer to home anyway but would make for a decent signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 15, 2021, 16:32:32 pm
I think he has signed for Stockport!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 15, 2021, 18:04:37 pm
Its not that difficult to follow to be honest.

Chucks is on a scholarship, getting paid peanuts until January. He has been offered a contract which he may or may not sign. The contract offer being open it is restricting our ability to sign another striker.

To sign another striker it is likely that we will need to remove the offer given to Chucks and just let his scholarship run its course.

It sounds like we are not in a position to offer a half decent striker a £2k* a week deal for 2* years for Chuck to turn up on October and sign his £2k* a week deal over a 3* year contract.

*these figures are completely made up but can't be to far off!



I think you're probably right but if that's the case why doesn't Brady just give him a deadline like he did with Jones and Watson?

If he doesn't sign by say next Friday then revoke the offer and move on to another target.

Chuks has a lot of potential future value. He could be another Ivan Toney, which I suspect is why the club are still doing all they can to persuade him to stay.

On the other hand, am I confident that he will score 15+ goals next year in L2? Not necessarily. I wonder whether he'll develop into more of a number 10/deep-lying forward as he seem best when arriving from deep and carrying the ball.

The main issue that Brady had with him last year was his failure/inability to track back/press/do the defensive side of the game which is an important element of modern forward play. Will he improve this to the extent that Brady trusts him to start? Again, I don't know.

My ideal scenario would be for Chuks to stay and for us to sign a proven lower-league targetman/goalscorer.

If it came down to an either or I'd be a bit torn.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 18:44:43 pm
I think you're probably right but if that's the case why doesn't Brady just give him a deadline like he did with Jones and Watson?

If he doesn't sign by say next Friday then revoke the offer and move on to another target.

Chuks has a lot of potential future value. He could be another Ivan Toney, which I suspect is why the club are still doing all they can to persuade him to stay.

On the other hand, am I confident that he will score 15+ goals next year in L2? Not necessarily. I wonder whether he'll develop into more of a number 10/deep-lying forward as he seem best when arriving from deep and carrying the ball.

The main issue that Brady had with him last year was his failure/inability to track back/press/do the defensive side of the game which is an important element of modern forward play. Will he improve this to the extent that Brady trusts him to start? Again, I don't know.

My ideal scenario would be for Chuks to stay and for us to sign a proven lower-league targetman/goalscorer.

If it came down to an either or I'd be a bit torn.




As I understand it if they withdraw the offer then they are due £0 if he goes elsewhere in this country.
If he leaves tomorrow while there is a contract offer on the table we will be due compensation.

Let’s face facts he will be off somewhere so let’s plan without him and get on with replacing high earner Harry smith with a decent striker.
Keep the offer on the table for Caleb and hope he signs for someone in this country rather than abroad.

He’s only on a scholars wage so let’s not use this as a smokescreen.
Sign a decent striker and give him time to get used to playing for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 15, 2021, 19:42:36 pm
Not too sure what point you are trying to make here. It doesn't matter one jot if £250k is easily payable by League One clubs or not (which for most you are correct to assume it wouldn't be) - a player doesn't move unless the buying club can agree a fee with a selling club.

The £250k is an arbitrary figure someone has come up with probably a couple of pages back now. As I've already said, it's nonsense to assume Morton would have been available for that price last summer.

My point is that for example the situation reg Morton has changed since last Summer. What I cannot quite make out is why you and one or two others simply ignore the salient fact that Morton has had two bad injuries. So he has a question mark over his future. It will take a bold move by any club to fork out a handsome fee for Morton on top of his wages. For me go for a loan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 15, 2021, 19:46:36 pm
Was Harry Smith a "high earner"?. According to Joes Sweet Left Foot on the previous page he was not in our top 7 eaners last season. He came from Macclesfield so I doubt that he was that well paid there and we should not have to had offered significantly more to entice him to come here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on July 15, 2021, 20:09:32 pm
As I understand it if they withdraw the offer then they are due £0 if he goes elsewhere in this country.
If he leaves tomorrow while there is a contract offer on the table we will be due compensation.

Let’s face facts he will be off somewhere so let’s plan without him and get on with replacing high earner Harry smith with a decent striker.
Keep the offer on the table for Caleb and hope he signs for someone in this country rather than abroad.

He’s only on a scholars wage so let’s not use this as a smokescreen.
Sign a decent striker and give him time to get used to playing for us.

Yes I believe that is correct. The scheme was brought in to prevent European clubs plundering South American clubs. Compensation is payable ,and the size may be influenced by the offer he rejects.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 15, 2021, 20:11:54 pm
Was Harry Smith a "high earner"?. According to Joes Sweet Left Foot on the previous page he was not in our top 7 eaners last season. He came from Macclesfield so I doubt that he was that well paid there and we should not have to had offered significantly more to entice him to come here.
Yes Harry smith was a high earner.
That is why we were eager to get part of his wages off the bill last season and were  happy to let him leave this season.
At the time we signed him it was noted we beat others to his signature.

From memory the same site claimed that the lad who left for Gillingham was on £500 a week in league one!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 16, 2021, 00:56:42 am
My point is that for example the situation reg Morton has changed since last Summer. What I cannot quite make out is why you and one or two others simply ignore the salient fact that Morton has had two bad injuries. So he has a question mark over his future. It will take a bold move by any club to fork out a handsome fee for Morton on top of his wages. For me go for a loan.

For goodness sake Evers!
Regarding your first sentence, yes I am fully aware given I put “last summer” in bold in previous post to emphasise that this may have changed.
You seem to be assuming that I have suggested that we ought to have put a bid in for him… I haven’t suggested this at all.  Like you, I agree we should be looking to loan players of a similar profile to Morton - largely because I do not believe that we can afford to buy them.
I’m happy to engage in interesting debates  but I’m not sure where you’re coming from with this!  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 16, 2021, 11:54:37 am
For goodness sake Evers!
Regarding your first sentence, yes I am fully aware given I put “last summer” in bold in previous post to emphasise that this may have changed.
You seem to be assuming that I have suggested that we ought to have put a bid in for him… I haven’t suggested this at all.  Like you, I agree we should be looking to loan players of a similar profile to Morton - largely because I do not believe that we can afford to buy them.
I’m happy to engage in interesting debates  but I’m not sure where you’re coming from with this!  ???

Fair amount of hindsight creeping in here! I was merely trying to make the point on the 'here and now' situation! Not aware of suggesting to put in a bid. However apparently we did last summer! The two factors which influence most clubs is a) Financial restraints/repercussions and b) his injury record. The underlined is in my view a bit fanciful or at best ambiguous. As we appear to agree on the loan system(ref Morton) that effectively puts an end to discussion.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 16, 2021, 12:52:33 pm
Fair amount of hindsight creeping in here! I was merely trying to make the point on the 'here and now' situation! Not aware of suggesting to put in a bid. However apparently we did last summer! The two factors which influence most clubs is a) Financial restraints/repercussions and b) his injury record. The underlined is in my view a bit fanciful or at best ambiguous. As we appear to agree on the loan system(ref Morton) that effectively puts an end to discussion.

Fair enough, I’d thought that putting it in bold would make it pretty clear but perhaps I ought to have spelled it out! And yes, end to discussion


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 16, 2021, 15:53:24 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/every-signing-made-by-league-two-clubs-this-summer-whos-signed-who-so-far-3293358


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on July 16, 2021, 15:55:17 pm
Fair amount of hindsight creeping in here! I was merely trying to make the point on the 'here and now' situation! Not aware of suggesting to put in a bid. However apparently we did last summer! The two factors which influence most clubs is a) Financial restraints/repercussions and b) his injury record. The underlined is in my view a bit fanciful or at best ambiguous. As we appear to agree on the loan system(ref Morton) that effectively puts an end to discussion.

Some of the comments from yourself are pretty anti cobblers. The trouble with your views that you have an axe to grind so any opportunity to aid your view point you seize on any anti cobblers opinions without too much consideration for their accuracy. This is where you fall down with such messages above. You no longer provoke discussion on here only abuse. Surely you can see you are fighting a loosing battle; I doubt if you convince too many on here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on July 16, 2021, 16:01:51 pm
Are you saying they can’t do both, keep Chucks and sign (paying a transfer fee), due to financial restraints? If so we are not even contemplating the ‘Boro method! Simply increase our offer based on the hope that some big club will come in anyway? I know which option Shoey would take 8)

yes- I know you didn't state factual !  Quite an interesting response if a tad verbose.On the issue of perception I am not to sure if many "Posters" on here would share your view. What quite a few of us are saying is that the constant moans by certain individuals is not appreciated. Its how for instance you comes across . Certainly you do have the some reasonable points to put across but all to often they are scripted in a "putdown and negative manner". Pity really but as you say the Forum is all to do with opinions.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on July 16, 2021, 18:01:51 pm
Have heard recently Villa want to reunite the Chuk brothers...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 16, 2021, 18:07:49 pm
by sending Carny on loan here?  ;D ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 16, 2021, 18:21:08 pm
Have heard recently Villa want to reunite the Chuk brothers...
That’s great news.
Hopefully he’ll sign tomorrow and we can get on with incomings.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 16, 2021, 19:04:03 pm
Grealish, presumably, will be part of the deal and the good news is he just loves wearing a claret shirt so it won't be a traumatic switch for him. This Grealish chap, eh folks?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 16, 2021, 19:05:23 pm
That’s great news.
Hopefully he’ll sign tomorrow and we can get on with incomings.

I'm inclined to agree. The compensation package I believe is in part dependant on the size the salary offered by the previous club, and the amount of appearances that the player has made there - both of which should stand in good stead to receive a decent fee; well, as decent a fee as can be gotten through the injustice that is the FPPP system.

With that fee, Smith's fee, and the saved salaries of the two, I would expect the club to make a big statement signing to bring in a very good forward for our level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 16, 2021, 19:28:39 pm

With that fee, Smith's fee, and the saved salaries of the two, I would expect the club to make a big statement signing to bring in a very good forward for our level.

IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 16, 2021, 19:39:43 pm
IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.
Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last six years?

Feels like the DC days when the club was treading water (can’t remember DCs actual quote but it amounted to refusing to put anything other than running costs into the club until he got his own way)
That went well !!!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 16, 2021, 19:40:20 pm
yes- I know you didn't state factual !  Quite an interesting response if a tad verbose.On the issue of perception I am not to sure if many "Posters" on here would share your view. What quite a few of us are saying is that the constant moans by certain individuals is not appreciated. Its how for instance you comes across . Certainly you do have the some reasonable points to put across but all to often they are scripted in a "putdown and negative manner". Pity really but as you say the Forum is all to do with opinions.

About as strange reply as you could get. Unfortunately you drift into personal opinions with a negative stance but worst of all is the patronising manner. Not a way to engage with fellow posters.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 16, 2021, 19:49:31 pm
About as strange reply as you could get. Unfortunately you drift into personal opinions with a negative stance but worst of all is the patronising manner. Not a way to engage with fellow posters.
Have you really read the post before writing that reply??

Classic  ;D  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 16, 2021, 20:05:13 pm
Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last years

Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 16, 2021, 20:10:43 pm
Have you really read the post before writing that reply??

Classic  ;D  ;D  ;D

I have no shame ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 16, 2021, 20:28:10 pm
IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.

To a prem club at his age it 100k, that's 100k more than if he goes abroad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 16, 2021, 21:06:14 pm
To a prem club at his age it 100k, that's 100k more than if he goes abroad.

Are we not able to negotiate add ons?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 16, 2021, 21:20:56 pm
Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.



I agree, signing a successful striker doesn’t seem to have much to do with money. Truly proven class strikers at our level are rarely available, even if you have the cash. Invariably you splash it on a false reputation and end up with a disappointment. The majority of our successful ones do seem to have the surprise element attached off the back of unfulfilled potential.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Smoking Boots on July 17, 2021, 06:44:42 am
New stand money?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9796095/Aston-Villa-approach-19-year-old-Caleb-Chukwuemeka-rejected.html



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on July 17, 2021, 07:48:34 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Player_Performance_Plan?wprov=sfla1


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 08:06:26 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Player_Performance_Plan?wprov=sfla1

Well done Alfred had me busily searching for our situation:
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2014/august/academy-awarded-category-3-status-/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 17, 2021, 08:31:47 am
Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.




Praise the lord, spot on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 08:38:04 am
Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last six years?

Feels like the DC days when the club was treading water (can’t remember DCs actual quote but it amounted to refusing to put anything other than running costs into the club until he got his own way)
That went well !!!



Are you able to name those strikers we have paid money for who have proved to be successful? We seen to have experienced quite a few failures over the last 12 years!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2021, 08:55:10 am
Are you able to name those strikers we have paid money for who have proved to be successful? We seen to have experienced quite a few failures over the last 12 years!
Exactly everbrite

We’ve paid peanuts and got monkeys….

Other clubs who whizzed by us such as Luton and Peterborough reinvest to move forward.
We get money in and don’t reinvest.

There was a thread somewhere stating who our last 20 league goal a season striker was…

It was decades ago…….

We’ve had a few proper strikers at the club it’s just that we didn’t ever sign them because we haven’t had the owners who invest in the playing side of things.

Cox
Collins
Morton

Let’s see who we get in next.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 09:42:39 am
Exactly everbrite

We’ve paid peanuts and got monkeys….

Other clubs who whizzed by us such as Luton and Peterborough reinvest to move forward.
We get money in and don’t reinvest.

There was a thread somewhere stating who our last 20 league goal a season striker was…

It was decades ago…….

We’ve had a few proper strikers at the club it’s just that we didn’t ever sign them because we haven’t had the owners who invest in the playing side of things.

Cox
Collins
Morton

Let’s see who we get in next.


Exactly what? I suggested a fairly simple argument/query which you have avoided. Name those players we have forked out over £50k (for a striker). Pretty sure there are some in the excess of even £100k. Forget about your peanuts theory; that’s merely avoiding the issue. No BS just give a list of those players or strikers we have paid money for and have proved successful?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2021, 10:36:27 am
If you think we have paid over 100k for a striker you’re in cloud cuckoo land

I’d imagine we are paying the same for strikers now as we did in 1987 about 50k which is why we are where we are.

Smith was 50k as a guide….


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on July 17, 2021, 11:00:53 am
If you ever find yourself starting any post with phrase “Exactly Everbrite”, you should take that as a clear red flag and probably rethink your position.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 17, 2021, 11:12:57 am
If you think we have paid over 100k for a striker you’re in cloud cuckoo land

I’d imagine we are paying the same for strikers now as we did in 1987 about 50k which is why we are where we are.

Smith was 50k as a guide….
Over valued.
That’s what we paid for Paul Culpin in 1989.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 17, 2021, 11:17:04 am
David Seal and Steve Howard cost 90k each.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2021, 11:24:44 am
David Seal and Steve Howard cost 90k each.
Back in the nineteenhundreds  ::)

To be fair to DC he pushed our transfer record spending to £165,000.

We have gone backwards since then.

The only time we started spending decent money was when the Chinese invested in the club and quote “took us to the next level “

Imo we are not at that level at the moment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2021, 11:25:26 am
If you ever find yourself starting any post with phrase “Exactly Everbrite”, you should take that as a clear red flag and probably rethink your position.
;D ;D ;D
Il remember that going forward


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 17, 2021, 12:19:03 pm
Back in the nineteenhundreds  ::)

To be fair to DC he pushed our transfer record spending to £165,000.

We have gone backwards since then.

The only time we started spending decent money was when the Chinese invested in the club and quote “took us to the next level “

Imo we are not at that level at the moment.


The golden years!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 12:37:56 pm
If you ever find yourself starting any post with phrase “Exactly Everbrite”, you should take that as a clear red flag and probably rethink your position.

Very profound, didn’t bother him ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on July 17, 2021, 15:54:58 pm
I have no brain  ;D

and that's a shame


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 17, 2021, 18:47:37 pm
The Shoemaker of doom is having a nice time I see.

Why not just wait and see and then launch into the club if no striker is bought?

I'd ask this question, realistic options only...what would you say is a statement striker signing for Northampton Town in this transfer window?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 17, 2021, 18:53:51 pm
Just out of interest how many other league 2 teams have signed a 100k+ striker this window?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 17, 2021, 18:54:15 pm
The Shoemaker of doom is having a nice time I see.

Why not just wait and see and then launch into the club if no striker is bought?

I'd ask this question, realistic options only...what would you say is a statement striker signing for Northampton Town in this transfer window?

Matt Jay.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 17, 2021, 19:11:47 pm
Personally I feel at our level i feel recruitment is a lottery regardless of budgets. Vadine oliver is a prime example. I'm really happy with Foyle coming in and our recruitment thus far. Curle was a chancer who struck lucky at times but alienated youth players who are now being considered again. I really trust the judgement of the Brady Bunch and look forward to what approach they take!  Only 5 Stella's thus far!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 17, 2021, 19:13:37 pm
Just out of interest how many other league 2 teams have signed a 100k+ striker this window?
Exeter allegedly
They won’t be far away from promotion


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 17, 2021, 19:14:01 pm
Matt Jay proper devon lad, don't think he would move as far as us! Manage the team his brother plays for!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 19:23:42 pm
and that's a shame

Its a pity you have decided to manipulate a Forum members post for your enjoyment - not a particularly clever thing to do?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 17, 2021, 19:26:01 pm
Personally I feel at our level i feel recruitment is a lottery regardless of budgets. Vadine oliver is a prime example. I'm really happy with Foyle coming in and our recruitment thus far. Curle was a chancer who struck lucky at times but alienated youth players who are now being considered again. I really trust the judgement of the Brady Bunch and look forward to what approach they take!  Only 5 Stella's thus far!

I sincerely hope you are right as todays loss was a bit unwelcome whatever the circumstances.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 17, 2021, 19:43:47 pm
I think Brady is in for a rude awakening. There is always huge optimism on here in the pre-season when new players arrive but nobody NOBODY really has a clue as to how they will gel. I don't see any outstanding talents in the new crop and am always worried (drank a jar of coffee) when a player such as Hoskins remains centre-piece. I think we need to turn over a new leaf, if somebody has offered dosh for him there should be no hesitation. What do we really, when the chips are down, expect from the new season? Top ten? Safety? Mid-table? Avoid relegation? Play-offs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 17, 2021, 19:44:11 pm
Matt Jay.

Realistic and fair shout.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 17, 2021, 20:04:53 pm
Personally I feel at our level i feel recruitment is a lottery regardless of budgets.

Strongly disagree.

Successful lower-league clubs:

1. Use proper detailed, data analysis rather than relying purely on superficial subjective
    judgements or headline stats only (i.e. a cursory look at goals scored and assists)
2. Speculate to accumulate by spending reasonable amounts of money judiciously on players who are likely to have some re-sale value.
3. Assess players on character and fitness rather than purely on ability (c.f. the Van Veen, Crooks, Gash Taylor and Pereria era)
4. Negotiate effectively to get a high price plus sell-on-clauses for their saleable assets

There's still obviously an element of chance, but if you do those things effectively then you massively load the dice in your favour.

KT correctly identified that our relegation was primarily due to poor recruitment. Ostensibly, he's taken some action to improve the recruitment infrastructure: bringing Foyle back who may have contributed on some level of Wilder's success, getting Graham Carr involved etc.

The signings so far have very much a 'below-the-radar quality' to them and it's too early to say whether they will be successful. It concerns me slightly that we appear to be recruiting primarily from a fairly limited gene pool: Englishmen who've been plying their trade in the lower reaches of the SPL. If they come good then Foyle will look like a genius; if not, then serious questions will be asked about the recruitment process once again.

The big concern is still the forward line. We all know that the relegation was primarily down to lack of goals scored and Graham Carr said publicly that we needed two new centre forwards. So far we've signed Kabamba who may come good but doesn't appear to fit the targetman mould at first glance.

If I was Brady I would be actively looking fairly urgently for a striker who has a high percentage of   'aerial duel wins' and a high ratio of successful lay-offs. No one in the squad has these attributes IMO and I can't see us being successful without them, particularly if we play with two out-and-out wingers.  

I suspect part of Brady's strategy might be to put faith in youth this season.
There's a scenario in which Pollock emerges as a consistent starter as a
creative spark alongside McWilliams in midfield. A lot of people have written BAS off, but it's certainly not inconceivable that we might see a completely different player given a season at a lower level with better service - he's shown in flashes (e.g. Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish.



 



 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 17, 2021, 22:26:02 pm
I think Brady is in for a rude awakening. There is always huge optimism on here in the pre-season when new players arrive but nobody NOBODY really has a clue as to how they will gel. I don't see any outstanding talents in the new crop and am always worried (drank a jar of coffee) when a player such as Hoskins remains centre-piece. I think we need to turn over a new leaf, if somebody has offered dosh for him there should be no hesitation. What do we really, when the chips are down, expect from the new season? Top ten? Safety? Mid-table? Avoid relegation? Play-offs?
Same as KT avoid relegation, just.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 18, 2021, 22:18:22 pm
Strongly disagree.

Successful lower-league clubs:

1. Use proper detailed, data analysis rather than relying purely on superficial subjective
    judgements or headline stats only (i.e. a cursory look at goals scored and assists)
2. Speculate to accumulate by spending reasonable amounts of money judiciously on players who are likely to have some re-sale value.
3. Assess players on character and fitness rather than purely on ability (c.f. the Van Veen, Crooks, Gash Taylor and Pereria era)
4. Negotiate effectively to get a high price plus sell-on-clauses for their saleable assets

There's still obviously an element of chance, but if you do those things effectively then you massively load the dice in your favour.

KT correctly identified that our relegation was primarily due to poor recruitment. Ostensibly, he's taken some action to improve the recruitment infrastructure: bringing Foyle back who may have contributed on some level of Wilder's success, getting Graham Carr involved etc.

The signings so far have very much a 'below-the-radar quality' to them and it's too early to say whether they will be successful. It concerns me slightly that we appear to be recruiting primarily from a fairly limited gene pool: Englishmen who've been plying their trade in the lower reaches of the SPL. If they come good then Foyle will look like a genius; if not, then serious questions will be asked about the recruitment process once again.

The big concern is still the forward line. We all know that the relegation was primarily down to lack of goals scored and Graham Carr said publicly that we needed two new centre forwards. So far we've signed Kabamba who may come good but doesn't appear to fit the targetman mould at first glance.

If I was Brady I would be actively looking fairly urgently for a striker who has a high percentage of   'aerial duel wins' and a high ratio of successful lay-offs. No one in the squad has these attributes IMO and I can't see us being successful without them, particularly if we play with two out-and-out wingers.  

I suspect part of Brady's strategy might be to put faith in youth this season.
There's a scenario in which Pollock emerges as a consistent starter as a
creative spark alongside McWilliams in midfield. A lot of people have written BAS off, but it's certainly not inconceivable that we might see a completely different player given a season at a lower level with better service - he's shown in flashes (e.g. Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish.


Good comments Bungle - who are these ' Successful lower-league clubs: ?
After Satursday loss a bit of apprehension has crept in and as you say we dont have a striker who is good in the air; if we did who do we have to play with him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 19, 2021, 09:59:59 am
We’ve signed just about as many players as any league two club…maybe one/two less than a couple. More than the vast majority. We must be very close to having our starting squad.
It’s definitely JB’s team now anyway!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 19, 2021, 10:16:32 am
We’ve signed just about as many players as any league two club…maybe one/two less than a couple. More than the vast majority. We must be very close to having our starting squad.
It’s definitely JB’s team now anyway!

I do think with such wholesale changes there needs to be a focus on team cohesion in preseason games.

Ideally you want to be seeing your first 11 getting minutes together.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: lordjord on July 19, 2021, 10:46:34 am
Strongly disagree.

Successful lower-league clubs:

1. Use proper detailed, data analysis rather than relying purely on superficial subjective
    judgements or headline stats only (i.e. a cursory look at goals scored and assists)
2. Speculate to accumulate by spending reasonable amounts of money judiciously on players who are likely to have some re-sale value.
3. Assess players on character and fitness rather than purely on ability (c.f. the Van Veen, Crooks, Gash Taylor and Pereria era)
4. Negotiate effectively to get a high price plus sell-on-clauses for their saleable assets

There's still obviously an element of chance, but if you do those things effectively then you massively load the dice in your favour.

KT correctly identified that our relegation was primarily due to poor recruitment. Ostensibly, he's taken some action to improve the recruitment infrastructure: bringing Foyle back who may have contributed on some level of Wilder's success, getting Graham Carr involved etc.

The signings so far have very much a 'below-the-radar quality' to them and it's too early to say whether they will be successful. It concerns me slightly that we appear to be recruiting primarily from a fairly limited gene pool: Englishmen who've been plying their trade in the lower reaches of the SPL. If they come good then Foyle will look like a genius; if not, then serious questions will be asked about the recruitment process once again.

The big concern is still the forward line. We all know that the relegation was primarily down to lack of goals scored and Graham Carr said publicly that we needed two new centre forwards. So far we've signed Kabamba who may come good but doesn't appear to fit the targetman mould at first glance.

If I was Brady I would be actively looking fairly urgently for a striker who has a high percentage of   'aerial duel wins' and a high ratio of successful lay-offs. No one in the squad has these attributes IMO and I can't see us being successful without them, particularly if we play with two out-and-out wingers.  

I suspect part of Brady's strategy might be to put faith in youth this season.
There's a scenario in which Pollock emerges as a consistent starter as a
creative spark alongside McWilliams in midfield. A lot of people have written BAS off, but it's certainly not inconceivable that we might see a completely different player given a season at a lower level with better service - he's shown in flashes (e.g. Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish.



 



 

I agree in principle but I would imagine (and hope) that most teams already do this. The thing is there is so much more to it than that I would imagine. I can find a list of say 5 players in 10 minutes who meet those criteria. For example looking at the SPL, League 2 and the Conference last season at strikers who played more than 2000 minutes, under 30, with at least 10 league goals who win 40% of their aerial battles.

The 5 names that appear, Joe Quigley (Yeovil), Kyle Wootton (Notts County), Paul McCallum (Dag & Red), Joe Ironside (Cambridge), Rhys Oates (was Hartlepool, just signed for Mansfield).

But each one of these come with risks, some have played in the football league before and not been successful, playing at a lower level can boost the figures, have they played with another striker or on their own, one season wonder etc etc. So imagine then every team looking at those players, assessing whether they are available, fit in the system and so on.

I would imagine clubs have people that look at this in HUGE detail and certainly at higher levels they have masses of staff that look at it, would definitely be something to look at moving forward though in more detail.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 19, 2021, 11:30:56 am
I agree in principle but I would imagine (and hope) that most teams already do this. The thing is there is so much more to it than that I would imagine. I can find a list of say 5 players in 10 minutes who meet those criteria. For example looking at the SPL, League 2 and the Conference last season at strikers who played more than 2000 minutes, under 30, with at least 10 league goals who win 40% of their aerial battles.

The 5 names that appear, Joe Quigley (Yeovil), Kyle Wootton (Notts County), Paul McCallum (Dag & Red), Joe Ironside (Cambridge), Rhys Oates (was Hartlepool, just signed for Mansfield).

But each one of these come with risks, some have played in the football league before and not been successful, playing at a lower level can boost the figures, have they played with another striker or on their own, one season wonder etc

Agree that this stuff seems fairly obvious, but KT as good as admitted that our recruitment processes haven't been sufficiently data-informed or rigorous so clearly we simply haven't been doing this stuff to the required level.

Our relegation in 2018 was primarily down to a lack of character; our relegation in 2021 was primarily down to a lack of ability in both penalty areas. In both cases recruitment was largely the issue.

As I've said many times, I suspect that a lot of recruitment at L1 and L2 level is still primarily driven by superficial subjective judgements by scouts rather than rigorous analysis of how a players attributes would fit in with the existing squad. I've said many times that the signing of Harry Smith is the operative example: a player who superficially looks like a good physical specimen, scored 9 goals for a poor Macclesfield side but was woefully ill-equipped to play the targetman role that Curle envisaged for him due to his inability to win aerial duels or hold it up (something that some simple data analysis would surely have uncovered).

As you say, data-based recruitment is far from an exact science and there will always be duds aswell as diamonds. However, if you get it right then you can load the dice in your favour and your superior diamond-to-dud ratio will give you a competitive edge. I would say Acrrington, Burton, Wycombe and possibly even Gillingham are all examples of lower-league clubs who are punching above their weight due to highly effective recruitment rather than relying on simply splashing the cash.



 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 19, 2021, 13:01:36 pm
Apologies if it has already been mentioned but I had no idea that Ash Taylor has moved to Walsall on a free transfer from Aberdeen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 19, 2021, 13:04:08 pm
Agree that this stuff seems fairly obvious, but KT as good as admitted that our recruitment processes haven't been sufficiently data-informed or rigorous so clearly we simply haven't been doing this stuff to the required level.

Our relegation in 2018 was primarily down to a lack of character; our relegation in 2021 was primarily down to a lack of ability in both penalty areas. In both cases recruitment was largely the issue.

As I've said many times, I suspect that a lot of recruitment at L1 and L2 level is still primarily driven by superficial subjective judgements by scouts rather than rigorous analysis of how a players attributes would fit in with the existing squad. I've said many times that the signing of Harry Smith is the operative example: a player who superficially looks like a good physical specimen, scored 9 goals for a poor Macclesfield side but was woefully ill-equipped to play the targetman role that Curle envisaged for him due to his inability to win aerial duels or hold it up (something that some simple data analysis would surely have uncovered).

As you say, data-based recruitment is far from an exact science and there will always be duds aswell as diamonds. However, if you get it right then you can load the dice in your favour and your superior diamond-to-dud ratio will give you a competitive edge. I would say Acrrington, Burton, Wycombe and possibly even Gillingham are all examples of lower-league clubs who are punching above their weight due to highly effective recruitment rather than relying on simply splashing the cash.

 
All of this makes sense to me, but when you say you can load the dice in your favour, if player choice comes down to a computer algorithm with clubs wanting the top ranking player, doesn't it actually load the dice further in favour of the wealthiest clubs in each division?
When you say superficial subjective analysis by scouts, it's most definitely subjective but provided the scout has done a proper job, why is it superficial? Statistical analysis of most of our recent recruits really is superficial to my mind because most these days seem to come from other leagues or no leagues at all. How can you reliably statistically analyse a player who has made less than 50 relevant league appearances and how is that any better than a scout who knows the game in a way most of us on here do not?
Of Bungles 4 bulletin points, isn't 3 also by definition, a subjective analysis?
I still think a good scout will see things a computer model will not and if the computer model has precious little relevant data to go on, that scouts opinion is probably a better gauge.
By contrast if we were to sign the sort of player with a body of reliable data such as when we resigned Rico, would anyone really need statistics to decide if he was going to fit into any particular managers style of play?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 19, 2021, 14:03:02 pm
All of this makes sense to me, but when you say you can load the dice in your favour, if player choice comes down to a computer algorithm with clubs wanting the top ranking player, doesn't it actually load the dice further in favour of the wealthiest clubs in each division?
When you say superficial subjective analysis by scouts, it's most definitely subjective but provided the scout has done a proper job, why is it superficial? Statistical analysis of most of our recent recruits really is superficial to my mind because most these days seem to come from other leagues or no leagues at all. How can you reliably statistically analyse a player who has made less than 50 relevant league appearances and how is that any better than a scout who knows the game in a way most of us on here do not?
Of Bungles 4 bulletin points, isn't 3 also by definition, a subjective analysis?
I still think a good scout will see things a computer model will not and if the computer model has precious little relevant data to go on, that scouts opinion is probably a better gauge.
By contrast if we were to sign the sort of player with a body of reliable data such as when we resigned Rico, would anyone really need statistics to decide if he was going to fit into any particular managers style of play?

The modern solution used by the most successful clubs isn't either data vs the scouts' eye - it's both. It's rare that "scouts" just watch games now (picture the sheepskin wearing bloke taking notes in the stands).

The manager / head of football will tell the head of player recruitment the profile of what type of player they are wanting - say for example a centre back with the ability to carry the ball and pass accurately through the lines (e.g. in the mould of Harry Maguire), given the manager would like to be able to transition the ball better to forward players.
The head of player recruitment would then work with the analyst/scouting/recruitment/whatever you would like to call them to figure out how to identify them. Given that its their career I'd imagine they're pretty adept at cutting through the noise of hundreds of data points (many are irrelevant) and finding some that can identify the right type of player for the manager.
After that they would need to select appropriate leagues to find player data (i.e. leagues where players can be signed for reasonable fees/salaries. 
They would then shortlist a number and then decide which of them to watch in more detail. At first this would be done via player information databases / scouting tools such as Wyscout. These allow the (paid) users to watch whole games on demand. Pretty much every league that Cobblers might sign a player from will have virtually all its games uploaded to these databases so this allows them to get a very good understanding of a player. If I'm not mistaken you can actually focus the camera on a player too so you can watch how they move and react throughout a game also. With all this footage the analyst/scout can see patterns in a players general play and write a report on them, perhaps also including statistics to support their visual observations on them.
After this a club might decide to watch a few games in person. If a player is out of contract this might be difficult, but given tools like Wyscout the necessity for this might depend on how fussy / old school a manager is.

The key thing is that a player would never be signed on impressive stats alone. Those are often used to highlight a player, but a player is always watched as well!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: JollyCobbler on July 19, 2021, 14:30:31 pm
The modern solution used by the most successful clubs isn't either data vs the scouts' eye - it's both. It's rare that "scouts" just watch games now (picture the sheepskin wearing bloke taking notes in the stands).

The manager / head of football will tell the head of player recruitment the profile of what type of player they are wanting - say for example a centre back with the ability to carry the ball and pass accurately through the lines (e.g. in the mould of Harry Maguire), given the manager would like to be able to transition the ball better to forward players.
The head of player recruitment would then work with the analyst/scouting/recruitment/whatever you would like to call them to figure out how to identify them. Given that its their career I'd imagine they're pretty adept at cutting through the noise of hundreds of data points (many are irrelevant) and finding some that can identify the right type of player for the manager.
After that they would need to select appropriate leagues to find player data (i.e. leagues where players can be signed for reasonable fees/salaries. 
They would then shortlist a number and then decide which of them to watch in more detail. At first this would be done via player information databases / scouting tools such as Wyscout. These allow the (paid) users to watch whole games on demand. Pretty much every league that Cobblers might sign a player from will have virtually all its games uploaded to these databases so this allows them to get a very good understanding of a player. If I'm not mistaken you can actually focus the camera on a player too so you can watch how they move and react throughout a game also. With all this footage the analyst/scout can see patterns in a players general play and write a report on them, perhaps also including statistics to support their visual observations on them.
After this a club might decide to watch a few games in person. If a player is out of contract this might be difficult, but given tools like Wyscout the necessity for this might depend on how fussy / old school a manager is.

The key thing is that a player would never be signed on impressive stats alone. Those are often used to highlight a player, but a player is always watched as well!

John Motson? ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 19, 2021, 14:36:37 pm
The modern solution used by the most successful clubs isn't either data vs the scouts' eye - it's both. It's rare that "scouts" just watch games now (picture the sheepskin wearing bloke taking notes in the stands).

The manager / head of football will tell the head of player recruitment the profile of what type of player they are wanting - say for example a centre back with the ability to carry the ball and pass accurately through the lines (e.g. in the mould of Harry Maguire), given the manager would like to be able to transition the ball better to forward players.
The head of player recruitment would then work with the analyst/scouting/recruitment/whatever you would like to call them to figure out how to identify them. Given that its their career I'd imagine they're pretty adept at cutting through the noise of hundreds of data points (many are irrelevant) and finding some that can identify the right type of player for the manager.
After that they would need to select appropriate leagues to find player data (i.e. leagues where players can be signed for reasonable fees/salaries. 
They would then shortlist a number and then decide which of them to watch in more detail. At first this would be done via player information databases / scouting tools such as Wyscout. These allow the (paid) users to watch whole games on demand. Pretty much every league that Cobblers might sign a player from will have virtually all its games uploaded to these databases so this allows them to get a very good understanding of a player. If I'm not mistaken you can actually focus the camera on a player too so you can watch how they move and react throughout a game also. With all this footage the analyst/scout can see patterns in a players general play and write a report on them, perhaps also including statistics to support their visual observations on them.
After this a club might decide to watch a few games in person. If a player is out of contract this might be difficult, but given tools like Wyscout the necessity for this might depend on how fussy / old school a manager is.

The key thing is that a player would never be signed on impressive stats alone. Those are often used to highlight a player, but a player is always watched as well!
Watched but not necessarily in person...so we could sign someone whose stats hold up but are from a different league (inferior, superior, or a different style of play generally, youth, overseas, and who looks the part on a screen without having a that confirmed by a real time scout? (I know I'm beginning to sound like Everbright).
The gene pool from which to choose is massively bigger then but is it any better? What about agents bringing players to the attention of clubs, how much importance does that have today and how much of the statistical analysis is abandoned if the agent is doing his job effectively?!
There's a whole industry that has been built up in order to successfully sign the correct players that's for sure. Wonder how many clubs have seen an improvement in their league positions over their historical average as a result of this though?
Maybe just a case of keeping up with the Jonses. Evolve in order to send still.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 19, 2021, 14:40:22 pm
John Motson? ;D
Those were your commentators I thought, men wearing sheepskins.
Green umbro sweatshirts were de rigeuer coaches apparel.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 19, 2021, 15:07:33 pm
Agree that this stuff seems fairly obvious, but KT as good as admitted that our recruitment processes haven't been sufficiently data-informed or rigorous so clearly we simply haven't been doing this stuff to the required level.

Our relegation in 2018 was primarily down to a lack of character; our relegation in 2021 was primarily down to a lack of ability in both penalty areas. In both cases recruitment was largely the issue.

As I've said many times, I suspect that a lot of recruitment at L1 and L2 level is still primarily driven by superficial subjective judgements by scouts rather than rigorous analysis of how a players attributes would fit in with the existing squad. I've said many times that the signing of Harry Smith is the operative example: a player who superficially looks like a good physical specimen, scored 9 goals for a poor Macclesfield side but was woefully ill-equipped to play the targetman role that Curle envisaged for him due to his inability to win aerial duels or hold it up (something that some simple data analysis would surely have uncovered).

As you say, data-based recruitment is far from an exact science and there will always be duds aswell as diamonds. However, if you get it right then you can load the dice in your favour and your superior diamond-to-dud ratio will give you a competitive edge. I would say Acrrington, Burton, Wycombe and possibly even Gillingham are all examples of lower-league clubs who are punching above their weight due to highly effective recruitment rather than relying on simply splashing the cash.


You could also consider Rotherham, Barnsley, Millwall and Peterborough as punching above their weight. In the lower Divisions certainly Cambridge, Cheltenham, Morecombe,Crewe,  Fleetwood, Shrewsbury and even Lincoln. Lower still the list gets longer for instance Colchester who survive on poor league gates compared with NTFC. Most of these Clubs will find their true level soon enough. The standout Club is Stanley so perhaps their methods might be worth analysing. Perhaps it is their judicial use of loan players from nearby clubs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 19, 2021, 15:32:54 pm
Watched but not necessarily in person...so we could sign someone whose stats hold up but are from a different league (inferior, superior, or a different style of play generally, youth, overseas, and who looks the part on a screen without having a that confirmed by a real time scout? (I know I'm beginning to sound like Everbright).
The gene pool from which to choose is massively bigger then but is it any better? What about agents bringing players to the attention of clubs, how much importance does that have today and how much of the statistical analysis is abandoned if the agent is doing his job effectively?!
There's a whole industry that has been built up in order to successfully sign the correct players that's for sure. Wonder how many clubs have seen an improvement in their league positions over their historical average as a result of this though?
Maybe just a case of keeping up with the Jonses. Evolve in order to send still.


There are a fair few clubs who have massively improved their standings and gone up leagues by using best practice processes - google is your best friend here! As for the Cobblers, I'd be very surprised if we are even remotely close to using best practice. From the sounds of Foyle's interviews upon joining it doesn't sound like he was awfully keen on identifying players using data. Doesn't necessarily mean that our new signings won't be good but it certainly doesn't tie up with the soundbites KT was making about a new approach.

One last point on your comment "The gene pool from which to choose is massively bigger then but is it any better?" - I would argue that it doesn't necessarily make the pool of players all that much bigger. We would still only be considering players from divisions with similar/lower wage budgets and a similar/slightly lower standard, in the UK. That leaves League 1/League 2/National Leagues/SPL, the same as where we currently sign players from. What it DOES give you though is as I described in my previous post - the ability to use data points to make sure that the statistical counts of instances (random examples include: completed passes of a distance of over 30 yards, duels won in attacking third of the pitch, distance covered in final 10 mins of a game etc.) matches the scouts / managers' opinion of a player's strengths, thus removing elements of subjectivity. These are available on the tools as ranked against the other players in the league and some tools such as Smarterscout even have a weighting system based on league strength so they can be accurately compared to players in your own clubs division!
Of course these could be used in the wrong way, but you have to trust in the professional's ability given that it is their career and they will have a far greater understanding of applied use of statistics in football recruitment than you or I; particularly as if they sign more duds than successes they are likely to be let go!
At the end of the day the manager will almost always (depending on the structure at the club) have the final say on whether or not to try to sign a player but its the quality of the information fed to him from the analyst/scouting team that could make a difference between signing better players or not.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 19, 2021, 15:33:38 pm
You could also consider Rotherham, Barnsley, Millwall and Peterborough as punching above their weight. In the lower Divisions certainly Cambridge, Cheltenham, Morecombe,Crewe,  Fleetwood, Shrewsbury and even Lincoln. Lower still the list gets longer for instance Colchester who survive on poor league gates compared with NTFC. Most of these Clubs will find their true level soon enough. The standout Club is Stanley so perhaps their methods might be worth analysing. Perhaps it is their judicial use of loan players from nearby clubs?

Some good examples!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on July 19, 2021, 16:00:46 pm
Great post Everbrite - Don't say that very often  ;D

As I posted on the finance thread, it's often money and choice. A player that ticks the data boxes etc has choices, why come here to NTFC?

Well I suspect we pay well, too well, why? because we have such little else to offer a player (and his agent)

That then means the pool of players in smaller and might explain why we have taken some many gambles on injured or problem players.

Every season for the last 15 years owners have said we have a very competitive budget but it doesn't show in the players performances (or their star status - except Van Veen of course  ;D)

So I get that for a lot of clubs / times it is a 'luck' thing, a bunch of random (excuse the pun) players gel into a team, get on a roll and suddenly the team are doing really well. No better example than the Wilder winning season, no-one expected us to do that well, it was sparked by Ricky Holmes having the best 6 months I have ever seen in almost 40 years of watching NTFC. After winning by 13 points, I think only Ricky was actually sold and even he never performed anywhere near that level again. (I know a few loan players played higher in following seasons).

It is a great example of how team spirit, community and having something to fight for created that amazing season. Personalities, off and on the pitch are so so important. Moneyball data might have been at play but it was a set of circumstances over player recruitment for me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 19, 2021, 16:20:08 pm
Great post Everbrite - Don't say that very often  ;D

As I posted on the finance thread, it's often money and choice. A player that ticks the data boxes etc has choices, why come here to NTFC?

Well I suspect we pay well, too well, why? because we have such little else to offer a player (and his agent)

That then means the pool of players in smaller and might explain why we have taken some many gambles on injured or problem players.

Every season for the last 15 years owners have said we have a very competitive budget but it doesn't show in the players performances (or their star status - except Van Veen of course  ;D)

So I get that for a lot of clubs / times it is a 'luck' thing, a bunch of random (excuse the pun) players gel into a team, get on a roll and suddenly the team are doing really well. No better example than the Wilder winning season, no-one expected us to do that well, it was sparked by Ricky Holmes having the best 6 months I have ever seen in almost 40 years of watching NTFC. After winning by 13 points, I think only Ricky was actually sold and even he never performed anywhere near that level again. (I know a few loan players played higher in following seasons).

It is a great example of how team spirit, community and having something to fight for created that amazing season. Personalities, off and on the pitch are so so important. Moneyball data might have been at play but it was a set of circumstances over player recruitment for me.
I’d pretty much agree with that, it’s the unpredictability of sport. All you can do is stack the odds in your favour, but there are absolutely never any guarantees.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: angrydad on July 19, 2021, 16:55:30 pm
Why would anyone choose NTFC?  Its bothered me many times, what do we offer that other clubs don't have.  We don't have the cash to pump their pockets, the facilities to turn their head, the trainers to push on their career etc.  Maybe we ought to turn our attention to other ways of persuasion? 

The only thing I can come up with - is maybe we use our connection with University of Northampton - free or part funded part time course whilst at the club, and then we use our location.  - it maybe would help if we say we'll make it easy for you to start your education, and it would be a great base for you (pushing the local motorway connections) - if you decide to move on.

Apart from that I've got nothing, why does any player choose any club?  There are an awful lot of clubs which are very similar and Northampton is a bit of an identikit club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on July 19, 2021, 17:51:48 pm
Why would anyone choose NTFC?  Its bothered me many times

Me as well! Repeatedly for over 35 years yet I still keep coming back for more. Maybe it’s the 6 promotions that have done it for me albeit tempered by an equal amount of relegations. Equally there are a lot of clubs that it could be said why would anyone sign for with average facilities, debts and track records for being a successful stepping stone like us. Ultimately I think it comes down to the expected £ wages, length of contracts and were well located.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 19, 2021, 17:54:23 pm
The modern solution used by the most successful clubs isn't either data vs the scouts' eye - it's both. It's rare that "scouts" just watch games now (picture the sheepskin wearing bloke taking notes in the stands).

The manager / head of football will tell the head of player recruitment the profile of what type of player they are wanting - say for example a centre back with the ability to carry the ball and pass accurately through the lines (e.g. in the mould of Harry Maguire), given the manager would like to be able to transition the ball better to forward players.
The head of player recruitment would then work with the analyst/scouting/recruitment/whatever you would like to call them to figure out how to identify them. Given that its their career I'd imagine they're pretty adept at cutting through the noise of hundreds of data points (many are irrelevant) and finding some that can identify the right type of player for the manager.
After that they would need to select appropriate leagues to find player data (i.e. leagues where players can be signed for reasonable fees/salaries. 
They would then shortlist a number and then decide which of them to watch in more detail. At first this would be done via player information databases / scouting tools such as Wyscout. These allow the (paid) users to watch whole games on demand. Pretty much every league that Cobblers might sign a player from will have virtually all its games uploaded to these databases so this allows them to get a very good understanding of a player. If I'm not mistaken you can actually focus the camera on a player too so you can watch how they move and react throughout a game also. With all this footage the analyst/scout can see patterns in a players general play and write a report on them, perhaps also including statistics to support their visual observations on them.
After this a club might decide to watch a few games in person. If a player is out of contract this might be difficult, but given tools like Wyscout the necessity for this might depend on how fussy / old school a manager is.

The key thing is that a player would never be signed on impressive stats alone. Those are often used to highlight a player, but a player is always watched as well!
Thanks for the explanation.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 19, 2021, 18:37:04 pm
Why would anyone choose NTFC?  Its bothered me many times, what do we offer that other clubs don't have.  We don't have the cash to pump their pockets, the facilities to turn their head, the trainers to push on their career etc.  Maybe we ought to turn our attention to other ways of persuasion? 

The only thing I can come up with - is maybe we use our connection with University of Northampton - free or part funded part time course whilst at the club, and then we use our location.  - it maybe would help if we say we'll make it easy for you to start your education, and it would be a great base for you (pushing the local motorway connections) - if you decide to move on.

Apart from that I've got nothing, why does any player choose any club?  There are an awful lot of clubs which are very similar and Northampton is a bit of an identikit club.

Maybe it's because when we are in the Fourth Division, we are a good each way bet for any player to get a promotion on their CV?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 20, 2021, 06:18:06 am
The modern solution used by the most successful clubs isn't either data vs the scouts' eye ……………….   
………………..    The key thing is that a player would never be signed on impressive stats alone. Those are often used to highlight a player, but a player is always watched as well!

How is your pal Précis these days?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 20, 2021, 07:43:18 am
How is your pal Précis these days?

Probably gone for a pint with your mate, Needless Sarcasm.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 20, 2021, 08:14:52 am
Why would anyone choose NTFC? 
Because they've met with the manager a few times and really like what he had to say and the way he wants to play football.

Every signing by every manager in the last 10 years has said the same  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfc_kjd on July 20, 2021, 09:49:05 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9796095/Aston-Villa-approach-19-year-old-Caleb-Chukwuemeka-rejected.html

Anyone know how much % we got for Goode being promoted to the premier league?
Also read on social media that we potentially get a % on Crooks when he moves on…?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 20, 2021, 10:07:40 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9796095/Aston-Villa-approach-19-year-old-Caleb-Chukwuemeka-rejected.html

Anyone know how much % we got for Goode being promoted to the premier league?
Also read on social media that we potentially get a % on Crooks when he moves on…?

I'd be a little bit surprised if a promotion was a trigger for payment clauses, maybe appearances and sell on. Goode probably got a nice bonus himself.
If we did stick something on Crooks it'll be a few grand against running costs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 20, 2021, 10:22:49 am
I'd be a little bit surprised if a promotion was a trigger for payment clauses, maybe appearances and sell on. Goode probably got a nice bonus himself.
If we did stick something on Crooks it'll be a few grand against running costs.

It's not uncommon to have as a clause (speaking from FM experience  ;D ;D ;D) but I'd imagine a team like Brentford who have been knocking on the door for a while would avoid a big percentage if there is one at all.

Brentford are a great example of the use of Data both for recruiting and playing KPI's. It's well worth reading about the chairman's approach and his experimenting in Denmark.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 20, 2021, 10:39:08 am
In another universe, I would love to see ex-Cobbler Toney get a shot with Liverpool. Was doing the rounds recently but Brentford seem unsurprisingly keen to hang onto him. Doesn't look great to get the dream promotion and offload your top scorer. It's an ideal opportunity for the big boys to see how he performs in the top flight before battling it out. It could cost them twice as much though if he keeps banging them in.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 20, 2021, 11:02:44 am
Catching up on the last few weeks..

Have we signed a striker that has the ability to score yet?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 20, 2021, 11:25:30 am
Yes, Benny scored against Stamford on Saturday.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 20, 2021, 13:14:32 pm
Yes, Benny scored against Stamford on Saturday.

Benny the king!

Pleasure to have him onboard after his year off.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 20, 2021, 13:16:39 pm
Benny the king!

Pleasure to have him onboard after his year off.
I think Bernard will score this season.

Away at Stevenage


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 20, 2021, 14:25:33 pm
I think Bernard will score this season.

Away at Stevenage

But will it be in the right goal?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on July 20, 2021, 17:08:12 pm
Probably gone for a pint with your mate, Needless Sarcasm.

Priceless  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 20, 2021, 17:25:09 pm
Probably gone for a pint with your mate, Needless Sarcasm.

Needless response - typical


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 20, 2021, 17:35:05 pm
How is your pal Précis these days?

Are you capable of writing anything longer than a précis? Or writing anything on here that isn’t condescending, you utter c0ck?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 20, 2021, 19:05:01 pm
Probably gone for a pint with your mate, Needless Sarcasm.

Comedy gold  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 20, 2021, 19:45:49 pm
Matt Crooks...Decent sell on hopefully...

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united-expecting-imminent-exit-of-matt-crooks-to-middlesbrough-3314936 (https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united-expecting-imminent-exit-of-matt-crooks-to-middlesbrough-3314936)

The Millers are expected to receive a fee well north of £1million, but his former club Northampton will be due some of that by way of a sell-on fee negiotiated at the time of his move to South Yorkshire.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 20, 2021, 21:25:21 pm
Are you capable of writing anything longer than a précis? Or writing anything on here that isn’t condescending, you utter c0ck?

You need to understand what precis means judging by your reply. Why such abusive language too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 20, 2021, 21:39:09 pm
You need to understand what precis means judging by your reply. Why such abusive language too.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on July 21, 2021, 08:00:39 am
Well Evers, I know you are already aware that I find a lot of your posts irritating so I have kept out of this little spat but do you not realise the level of absurdity which you sometimes reach?
First you post a needless sarcastic comment and then, quite astonishingly, have the nerve to brand the response pointing this out as needless!
Seriously, why do you not preview your posts and question if they will, sorry to use that word again but "needlessly" rub anybody up the wrong way?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: claretparrot on July 21, 2021, 08:02:56 am
Just to stick my unwelcome nose in too, Evers...

If yours is a parody account after all and you're not already taking the p**s at a higher level, could I recommend you start writing comedy ASAP?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 21, 2021, 08:29:04 am
Just to stick my unwelcome nose in too, Evers...

If yours is a parody account after all and you're not already taking the p**s at a higher level, could I recommend you start writing comedy ASAP?

I took my nom-de-plume on here from an Alan Partridge quote. The genius of the writing behind Alan Partridge is that he's quite a vulnerable, sympathetic and somehow likeable character despite being an absolutely awful human being.

I think Evers is our equivalent, either knowingly or unknowingly. Aha!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 21, 2021, 08:39:34 am
There are a lot of people on here who either need to get a room or get into a boxing ring. Another thread descended in to pettiness.

With only just over 2 weeks until the season starts I hope the recruitment pics up again. Did I read that they expect a couple more in this week?
My guess would be that we'll start moving into loans more now as the bigger clubs get their squads sorted and who they want to loan out


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 21, 2021, 09:13:48 am
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Knockingonabit on July 21, 2021, 09:30:51 am
I am too old for anything other than verbal sparring Woody  ;D but I think you are probably right in that we are heading for a loan, particularly up front. Before this lull everything was done pretty quickly and assuming one or two of the defensive trialists are signed we are pretty much there apart from the elusive goalscorer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 11:56:10 am
Well Evers, I know you are already aware that I find a lot of your posts irritating so I have kept out of this little spat but do you not realise the level of absurdity which you sometimes reach?
First you post a needless sarcastic comment and then, quite astonishingly, have the nerve to brand the response pointing this out as needless!
Seriously, why do you not preview your posts and question if they will, sorry to use that word again but "needlessly" rub anybody up the wrong way?

Firstly I don’t needlessly rub people up the wrong way - it just happens. However thanks for voicing your concern at the irritation I needlessly cause to some on here. It’s amazing how some on here react to certain posts; needless to say I could easily suggest several others on here who fit your agenda. For instance the greatest poster on here Manny does not attract your attention? Perhaps you are too wary even scared to criticise him as you might suffer some strategically themed abuse. Unfortunately am not a master of dry sarcasm of whom one well known member has perfected the art, yet somehow he escapes your attention?
I still find O’cools recent post unnecessary long winded and perhaps your attention might be more useful to to remind him in the art of précis. Alas several of those who took me to task have had runs in the distant past. BoN, Horsham Cobbler and possibly SingingCobbler(as if) all merely opportunistic snipers .
Anyway appreciate your remarks but most football forums are a rough and tumble!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on July 21, 2021, 12:05:41 pm
Everbrite, I ceased posting on here last season solely because of your refusal to accept anyone else’s opinion.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 12:07:22 pm
I took my nom-de-plume on here from an Alan Partridge quote. The genius of the writing behind Alan Partridge is that he's quite a vulnerable, sympathetic and somehow likeable character despite being an absolutely awful human being.

I think Evers is our equivalent, either knowingly or unknowingly. Aha!

Do I detect a hint of gentle sarcasm. I thought your id was related to your interests? Alan Partridge is a total  cad 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 12:26:04 pm
Everbrite, I ceased posting on here last season solely because of your refusal to accept anyone else’s opinion.

I was reliably informed that you had a bout of typing cramp? I have countless opinions offered; However I accept the good and ignore the bad :-\
Forget about the personal petty issues and enjoy life to the full in the knowledge am on your side!  Anyway why are you West Sussex Guys so touchy at the mo?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 12:28:46 pm
Just to stick my unwelcome nose in too, Evers...

If yours is a parody account after all and you're not already taking the p**s at a higher level, could I recommend you start writing comedy ASAP?

Not unwelcome at all as I appreciated your recent write up on last nights game 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 21, 2021, 12:30:26 pm
Is this still the transfer thread or has it morphed into 'an audience with Neverbrite'?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 12:34:04 pm
Is this still the transfer thread or has it morphed into 'an audience with Neverbrite'?

Sarcasm not welcome on here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 21, 2021, 12:57:06 pm
 
Sarcasm not welcome on here.

 ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on July 21, 2021, 13:16:20 pm
Is this still the transfer thread or has it morphed into 'an audience with Neverbrite'?

Every thread goes off topic in the end. Why can't someone open a 'bitching' thread in general chat so the rest of us can read the other threads in peace.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 21, 2021, 13:34:55 pm
Every thread goes off topic in the end. Why can't someone open a 'bitching' thread in general chat so the rest of us can read the other threads in peace.

+1

Happy to view and join in disagreements about Cobbs as we are all ultimately on the same side.
But…
Politics, find somewhere else to vent your feelings. No one is going to change their minds on here anyway so what’s the point?
Personal insults, are mildly amusing (assuming it’s not you being personally insulted!) but show a lack of respect and empathy for fellow Cobblers fans. I was gunna write that  I guess that makes me woke - proud and guilty as charged. But I should save that for the politics thread?!

If you find your self disliking someone on here then just take a moment to think of them in a claret shirt screaming with delight in your face after Sammy H scores a winner in the 93rd minute. It’s hard to be personally abusive to them then!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 14:11:12 pm
Every thread goes off topic in the end. Why can't someone open a 'bitching' thread in general chat so the rest of us can read the other threads in peace.


+1

Quote from: Jim will Fix it Today.
Happy to view and join in disagreements about Cobbs as we are all ultimately on the same side.
If you find your self disliking someone on here then just take a moment to think of them in a claret shirt screaming with delight in your face after Sammy H scores a winner in the 93rd minute. It’s hard to be personally abusive to them then!

Clearly hope yet 👍




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 21, 2021, 14:15:13 pm
Can't you go and have your inane arguments elsewhere? Ridiculous lately.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shadowstorm on July 21, 2021, 14:21:48 pm
Thought this was a tread about transfers and transfer speculation, not a place to argue and have silly disagreements. Find another more appropriate thread for that pleae. Thank you


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on July 21, 2021, 14:39:08 pm
Every thread goes off topic in the end. Why can't someone open a 'bitching' thread in general chat so the rest of us can read the other threads in peace.

You can't fight in here, this is the war room.
Oh and yes Nevers, Singapore Cobbler joined the ntfc forum back in the last century, guess what, I was living in Singapore.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobbler on July 21, 2021, 15:30:12 pm
I very rarely post on here but this was a transfer thread and many people have offered great opinions and information throughout the summer. However, everbrite is just absolutely pathetic and obviously has way too much time behind a keyboard. Anyone who gives him/she the time of day is just wasting their time. I think it’s an attention thing. How sad. Please don’t think you are getting your attention but just trying to get everyone else to get back to the subject. Everbrite please don’t respond as I always scroll past anything you have to say as I’m not interested but the last page is due to people biting to your stupid posts. Does anyone have transfer info?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 21, 2021, 16:02:25 pm
I very rarely post on here but this was a transfer thread and many people have offered great opinions and information throughout the summer. However, everbrite is just absolutely pathetic and obviously has way too much time behind a keyboard. Anyone who gives him/she the time of day is just wasting their time. I think it’s an attention thing. How sad. Please don’t think you are getting your attention but just trying to get everyone else to get back to the subject. Everbrite please don’t respond as I always scroll past anything you have to say as I’m not interested but the last page is due to people biting to your stupid posts. Does anyone have transfer info?



 :o You clearly did scroll past the comments............don't tell people what to do on here otherwise it kicks off

I don't have any transfer rumours
Last one I heard was Stan Collymore was going to come here when he refused to play for Osasuna but they blocked it
I think that one was probably horse sh1t though

I did hear we almost signed John Scales once

Thats all I've got


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 21, 2021, 16:22:52 pm
So with Crooks to Middlesboro imminent, it was confirmed we'd make a sell on %

Figure of 1m has been mentioned of him to Boro so youd think at least 10% is a sensible minimum to expect right?

Be interested to see if we invest that back in the squad!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Cobbler on July 21, 2021, 16:35:37 pm
:o You clearly did scroll past the comments............don't tell people what to do on here otherwise it kicks off

I don't have any transfer rumours
Last one I heard was Stan Collymore was going to come here when he refused to play for Osasuna but they blocked it
I think that one was probably horse sh1t though

I did hear we almost signed John Scales once

Thats all I've got
Stan Collymore and John Scales is at least relevant to the thread 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 21, 2021, 17:18:43 pm
I still find O’cools recent post unnecessary long winded and perhaps your attention might be more useful to to remind him in the art of précis.

CJ asked about scouting (relevant to thread), and I shared what inside knowledge I had.

You derailed the thread (again) by being a git (again).

In the future, if you can't handle reading a long post, try scrolling past it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 21, 2021, 20:20:30 pm
So with Crooks to Middlesboro imminent, it was confirmed we'd make a sell on %

Figure of 1m has been mentioned of him to Boro so youd think at least 10% is a sensible minimum to expect right?

Be interested to see if we invest that back in the squad!

An interesting post amongst pages and pages of non related tit for tat.

I wouldn’t expect any of the funds to be reinvested though!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 21, 2021, 20:56:20 pm
Firstly I don’t needlessly rub people up the wrong way - it just happens.

That is comedy gold , Snouty.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 21:14:42 pm
That is comedy gold , Snouty.

No comment!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: RowN on July 21, 2021, 21:41:17 pm
This is supposed to be a thread about players coming to the Cobblers who we are supposed to support!!

Not a thread for  morons to argue the toss between themselves!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TownOwl on July 21, 2021, 21:42:37 pm
No transfer rumours from me, but I'd love to see a rumor from ntfclad that proper striker, a poacher, is on the way in.

I attended both the Sileby and Forest games.
Jury still out on the GK's, although they look better with distribution.
3 at centre back look decent.and young Max has a chance of making it. Think Fraser with Guthrie is a solid pair and wouldn't be surprised to see the latter made captain.
The new right back I thought was MOM - solid in defence and whipped some nice crosses in. Last trialist did ok I thought - enough to challenge Mills.
Good options in midfield, and Pollock like having a top new signing. Good strength in depth and a few goals in there.
Two new proper wingers, not afraid to mix it and will cause defences big problems.

And then the strikers... erm... Kebamba looks pacey and ok, but not full of goals. And that's the problem. I don't have any confidence in any of our forwards to score regularly. I never think, "Rose will score today". Same for all. No Rico, Gabbiadini, Bayo, McGleish, Marquis, Morton etc that gave you that confidence.

Looks like another Morton/Collins/Marquis type loan is the best we can hope for?

What happened to Alex Jones coming back? Thought he had the best chance of the bunch.

Precis - We need a proper striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 21, 2021, 21:49:36 pm
No transfer rumours from me, but I'd love to see a rumor from ntfclad that proper striker, a poacher, is on the way in.

I attended both the Sileby and Forest games.
Jury still out on the GK's, although they look better with distribution.
3 at centre back look decent.and young Max has a chance of making it. Think Fraser with Guthrie is a solid pair and wouldn't be surprised to see the latter made captain.
The new right back I thought was MOM - solid in defence and whipped some nice crosses in. Last trialist did ok I thought - enough to challenge Mills.
Good options in midfield, and Pollock like having a top new signing. Good strength in depth and a few goals in there.
Two new proper wingers, not afraid to mix it and will cause defences big problems.

And then the strikers... erm... Kebamba looks pacey and ok, but not full of goals. And that's the problem. I don't have any confidence in any of our forwards to score regularly. I never think, "Rose will score today". Same for all. No Rico, Gabbiadini, Bayo, McGleish, Marquis, Morton etc that gave you that confidence.

Looks like another Morton/Collins/Marquis type loan is the best we can hope for?

What happened to Alex Jones coming back? Thought he had the best chance of the bunch.

Precis - We need a proper striker.

My guess, a young unproven striker on a season long loan via a club that either Carr or Foyle is close to.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 21, 2021, 21:56:45 pm
................................

Precis - We need a proper striker.

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 22, 2021, 00:38:06 am
This is supposed to be a thread about players coming to the Cobblers who we are supposed to support!!

Not a thread for  morons to argue the toss between themselves!!

And yet you yourself have now started trading insults? See how certain people rile you up the wrong way?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 22, 2021, 05:53:25 am
An interesting post amongst pages and pages of non related tit for tat.

I wouldn’t expect any of the funds to be reinvested though!

If we get the player on a free, it's only half the salary of the standard of striker everyone is expecting.
£100k doesn't go a long way these days.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 22, 2021, 07:07:25 am
If we get the player on a free, it's only half the salary of the standard of striker everyone is expecting.
£100k doesn't go a long way these days.

But they must have some budget set aside still for a Smith replacement, so maybe a marquee signing isn't as far out of reach as possible?

Who though?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 22, 2021, 07:32:53 am
But they must have some budget set aside still for a Smith replacement, so maybe a marquee signing isn't as far out of reach as possible?

Who though?

Agree, but I was only responding to the 'riches' being touted as coming from the Crooks transfer to Middlesboro'.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 22, 2021, 08:36:37 am
So with Crooks to Middlesboro imminent, it was confirmed we'd make a sell on %

Figure of 1m has been mentioned of him to Boro so youd think at least 10% is a sensible minimum to expect right?

Be interested to see if we invest that back in the squad!

#runningcosts #-£6m #undisclosed

Sorry thought I was on Insta for a minute.  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 22, 2021, 08:39:15 am
But they must have some budget set aside still for a Smith replacement, so maybe a marquee signing isn't as far out of reach as possible?

Who though?

As I’ve said before isn’t the problem that if you are a marquee league 2 striker you are not looking to sign for another league 2 team, you are looking higher up the pyramid. Ryan Bowman signed for league 1 Shrewsbury and Danny Rose signed for us when we were in that division, neither of who I would call marquee league 2 players. You are going to have to pay silly money for a rival to sell you their prize striker and then pay silly wages for him to want to stay in league 2. Lloyd Jones rejected a better contract from us to sign for a league 1 team.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 22, 2021, 08:50:42 am
Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 22, 2021, 09:05:21 am
he is clearly still a key part of the team again

is he? where does he get in the team?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest1269 on July 22, 2021, 09:44:26 am
Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.

Agreed - we all know Sam’s attributes and of course his weaknesses but his workrate, pace and fair goal tally in L1 gets him in my line up for next season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 22, 2021, 09:46:37 am
Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.
If we are relying on super Sam to score those numbers (excluding pens) and play the main role upfront, we're fcuked.
Never going to happen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 22, 2021, 09:48:26 am
Much more chance of Rose scoring those numbers imo if the service and our style of play suits him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 22, 2021, 10:05:09 am
I'm sure when Cambridge signed Paul Mullen after
12 goals in 56 games for Tranmere
10 in 47 for Swindon
28 in 140 for Morecambe
...they weren't expecting him to go on and score 34 in 50 in one season and get them promoted pretty much single-handedly.

It is not about having a star signing, that's only going to happen once in a blue moon for a L2 club and even if it does what is to say it will work? (Kirk joined us after scoring 18 in 25 games from Boston and he was never ever that prolific)

... its about finding a way to play that suits one of our 4 strikers, a lot of times this seems to be down to luck or momentum built early on. At the minute I'm quite happy to see if the work on the training ground pays off and then reassess before the next transfer window if its not working.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 22, 2021, 10:09:18 am
If we are relying on super Sam to score those numbers (excluding pens) and play the main role upfront, we're fcuked.
Never going to happen.


Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on July 22, 2021, 10:28:58 am
Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.

same question, where does he get in the team?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 606 Parklands_Cobbler on July 22, 2021, 10:32:31 am
anywhere Brady puts him...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 22, 2021, 11:31:31 am
Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.
They obviously do, but if he scores 12 goals with only 6 in a season from open play the headline figure for all to see in the future tells a lie as to his prowess in front of goal to my mind.
He has indeed been a key member and I don't doubt his work ethic but he's now an anachronism for me and a reason why we haven't moved forward on the pitch since Wilder for me. We will only see consistent improvement once we don't need to rely on Sam or any carbon copies of Sam.
If used as a striker, give me a motivated Chuk or similar any day.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 22, 2021, 11:39:32 am
Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.

No denying he was not a key member of the squad and this has been supported by most managers back to Wilder. It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already; after all we still have plenty of potential strikers.  I do notice that a couple of days ago Paul Mullen was still unattached, is this still the case?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 22, 2021, 12:13:48 pm
No denying he was not a key member of the squad and this has been supported by most managers back to Wilder. It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already; after all we still have plenty of potential strikers.  I do notice that a couple of days ago Paul Mullen was still unattached, is this still the case?

Seems to be...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 22, 2021, 12:32:57 pm
same question, where does he get in the team?


Pretty much anywhere and probably would have done better than Mitchell in goal last year  :P
If we have (or get) the players who are performing well enough to keep him out then happy days.
I'd just be surprised if he is not regularly involved again this term in some shape or form and not necessarily just as a sub.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 22, 2021, 13:33:06 pm
It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already

You may be right.

- Danny Rose scored 17 goals at this level in 2017/18, prompting Fatboy Evans to express interest in taking him to P*sh. He finished a fairly decent proportion of the few chances which came his way last season.

- BAS was fairly highly thought of at Wolves has shown in flashes (Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish when given the opportunity

- Chuks has all the attributes (composure, control, pace, strength) to play at a higher level. (Whether he stays or not is another matter, but the potential to have a L2-destroying season is there.)

- Kabamba seems to have the physical attributes (pace and strength) to scare teams at this level.

I think all of these players could potentially emerge as our elusive 15+ goalscorer.
However, my big questions would be as follows:

1. Are we going to create more chances this season?


Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.

The signings of proper wingers in Pinnock and Connolly will hopefully improve things on this front.

2. Are any of our current strikers strong enough to win aerial duels, hold the ball up and flick the ball on to the likes of Rose?


As I've said many times, this is the big concern for me. I know we're not going to play Curle-style hoofball and I welcome that. However, history suggests that you need a physically dominant centre forward to compete in this division. Centre forwards like Marc Richards or Vadaine Oliver have been vital for us in the past, not merely for the goal threat that they carry but also, often more importantly, for the way that they create chances and space for others and relieve pressure on the defence by providing an 'out ball'. The ostensible lack of this kind of player is more of a worry for me than the lack of an obvious 'goalscorer', which as Everbrite says might already be in the building.

I think Brady might see Kabamba fulfilling this function but reports from his previous clubs would suggest it isn't really his game.

I'd almost be tempted to suggest that someone like John Akinde might be worth a go on a one-year deal. He wouldn't necessarily need to start every game, but it would be
good to have his experience off the bench or in the kind of tight away games when you need to nick something.









Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 22, 2021, 13:58:09 pm
You may be right.

- Danny Rose scored 17 goals at this level in 2017/18, prompting Fatboy Evans to express interest in taking him to P*sh. He finished a fairly decent proportion of the few chances which came his way last season.

- BAS was fairly highly thought of at Wolves has shown in flashes (Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish when given the opportunity

- Chuks has all the attributes (composure, control, pace, strength) to play at a higher level. (Whether he stays or not is another matter, but the potential to have a L2-destroying season is there.)

- Kabamba seems to have the physical attributes (pace and strength) to scare teams at this level.

I think all of these players could potentially emerge as our elusive 15+ goalscorer.
However, my big questions would be as follows:

1. Are we going to create more chances this season?


Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.

The signings of proper wingers in Pinnock and Connolly will hopefully improve things on this front.

2. Are any of our current strikers strong enough to win aerial duels, hold the ball up and flick the ball on to the likes of Rose?


As I've said many times, this is the big concern for me. I know we're not going to play Curle-style hoofball and I welcome that. However, history suggests that you need a physically dominant centre forward to compete in this division. Centre forwards like Marc Richards or Vadaine Oliver have been vital for us in the past, not merely for the goal threat that they carry but also, often more importantly, for the way that they create chances and space for others and relieve pressure on the defence by providing an 'out ball'. The ostensible lack of this kind of player is more of a worry for me than the lack of an obvious 'goalscorer', which as Everbrite says might already be in the building.

I think Brady might see Kabamba fulfilling this function but reports from his previous clubs would suggest it isn't really his game.

I'd almost be tempted to suggest that someone like John Akinde might be worth a go on a one-year deal. He wouldn't necessarily need to start every game, but it would be
good to have his experience off the bench or in the kind of tight away games when you need to nick something.


From what I have seen of the players this season particularly the fwds only Rose and BAS look upto the plate.
As mentioned before BAS is a lot slimmer and noticeably quicker than last season. He was dealt with very severly severely by the Forest defence had it been proper competitive game cards would have been shown. I know people suggest that Chuks will be a hit in League 2 but he did not exactly shine against Forest which to me was an ideal situation for him to impress any interested party.
BAS might be the answer as hold up player and appears to have some heading ability. If not we need 'cente forward' who can.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 22, 2021, 14:36:28 pm

Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.


I don’t wholly buy this and feel it lets those strikers off the hook. As well as not creating chances for themselves they weren’t getting in the right places at the right times. Watson who has never been prolific had no trouble scoring freely while Kioso, Horsfall and Hoskins were able to chip in a few goals at the end of the season, goals were there for players who were doing the right things.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 22, 2021, 14:38:18 pm
No comment!
Thats a turn up. That must have hurt to type that. Snouty.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 22, 2021, 15:15:16 pm
I don’t wholly buy this and feel it lets those strikers off the hook. As well as not creating chances for themselves they weren’t getting in the right places at the right times. Watson who has never been prolific had no trouble scoring freely while Kioso, Horsfall and Hoskins were able to chip in a few goals at the end of the season, goals were there for players who were doing the right things.

Watson, Kioso and Horsfall primarily scored from set pieces. Hoskins primarily scored penalties.

I will agree with you that Edmondson's movement and anticipation were **** poor
and he would have had more chances if they had been better. However, I'm not convinced that Rose was given the type of service or strike partner (targetman) he needs to thrive. (JB also seemed to give him less game time than Edmondson during the run in.)

Overall, If you think that the likes of Miller, Hoskins and Sowerby created enough chances or that their crossing and deliveries into the final third were anywhere near approaching adequate then you must have been watching different games to me. Better movement from our strikers would have improved things slightly, but I think even a proven fox-in-the-box type up front (which is after all kind of what Rose is) would have struggled to score goals in that team.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 22, 2021, 15:43:58 pm
Thats a turn up. That must have hurt to type that. Snouty.

Take it easy - you know what happened a couple of years ago!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 22, 2021, 20:18:19 pm
We will be meeting another of our former players this season, Sam Foley has joined Watson at Tranmere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 22, 2021, 22:32:50 pm
i actually think one of the best options up front is Hoskins himself .
If BAS or Rose aren’t mentally on it , i can see this happening .
He has pace and his movement is good after all


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 45Yearsandstillsupporting on July 23, 2021, 08:58:11 am
Sorry new to this, I just added to the original post and didn't reply!  IT idiot!



Good post.

I think we have good options up front but the last couple of seasons it has far from clicked.

Harry Smith had it tough, all the time the lone striker being marked by 2 defenders yet expected to win the punt from defence, control it or find someone who wasn't within 30 yards.

JB looks like he is looking to work from the back use the wingers and cross it in, a lot more than just lumping it up.

BAS looks fitter and leaner, quicker off the Mark.  Forest kicked bits out of it and in a "normal" game cards would have been shown, their No.18 thought it was rugby on Tuesday night!  I think BAS may just surprise some people this year.

Chuks I'll get flak for this, doesn't convince me yet.  Not sure because of the hype around him that I am expecting too much.  But against Forest and other games he seemed a bit slow off the mark.  Has nice touches and defenders don't like being run at but just seems to fail to deliver at the last moments.  Like us all, want him to make his mind up Villa or Cobblers.  I hope he stays as all around have belief he can be a player too good for league 2.

Rose when he came to us I thought was a great signing.  Think he still can be, but again not sure he was played as much/where as he wanted when under KC.

Happy with Maxted as goalie, good to hear a gobby type between the sticks.  Connolly has a great motor on him too, up and down, quick too. 

If we get the goals it'll be a good season, we will create chances, we will score.  The squad assembled is a good one, we will be promoted.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 23, 2021, 09:22:20 am
Sorry new to this, I just added to the original post and didn't reply!  IT idiot!



Good post.

I think we have good options up front but the last couple of seasons it has far from clicked.

Harry Smith had it tough, all the time the lone striker being marked by 2 defenders yet expected to win the punt from defence, control it or find someone who wasn't within 30 yards.

JB looks like he is looking to work from the back use the wingers and cross it in, a lot more than just lumping it up.

BAS looks fitter and leaner, quicker off the Mark.  Forest kicked bits out of it and in a "normal" game cards would have been shown, their No.18 thought it was rugby on Tuesday night!  I think BAS may just surprise some people this year.

Chuks I'll get flak for this, doesn't convince me yet.  Not sure because of the hype around him that I am expecting too much.  But against Forest and other games he seemed a bit slow off the mark.  Has nice touches and defenders don't like being run at but just seems to fail to deliver at the last moments.  Like us all, want him to make his mind up Villa or Cobblers.  I hope he stays as all around have belief he can be a player too good for league 2.

Rose when he came to us I thought was a great signing.  Think he still can be, but again not sure he was played as much/where as he wanted when under KC.

Happy with Maxted as goalie, good to hear a gobby type between the sticks.  Connolly has a great motor on him too, up and down, quick too. 

If we get the goals it'll be a good season, we will create chances, we will score.  The squad assembled is a good one, we will be promoted.


Bungle (the Professor 😀) sometimes leaves his closing /quote well out of sight so it is easy to reply without realising! The thing to do is look for the [/quote] and compose your message beneath that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on July 23, 2021, 11:18:56 am
Matt Crookes has completed his move to Middlesbrough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 23, 2021, 11:41:44 am
NEW SIGNING IMMINENT!

Clues ntfclad...?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on July 23, 2021, 11:45:09 am
Surprised they're not announcing it with the new shirt at 4pm...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 23, 2021, 11:46:30 am
Surprised they're not announcing it with the new shirt at 4pm...

Perhaps they are?

Harry Kane would look good in Claret.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 23, 2021, 11:51:08 am
I don't think it's a coincidence that the papers are reporting that Mbappe won't sign a new contract this morning.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 23, 2021, 11:51:55 am
Rotherham fans don't seem bothered that Crooks has gone, seems to have been the same with them as when he was here. Gist of Rotherham comments "On his day a great player on another day he couldn't be arsed". I liked Crooks but he rarely put in a 90 minute performance and I am surprised that Middlesborough have paid a reported 1.1million for him. As we sold him for £200,000 they have made a £900,000 profit, I wonder what our % of that we get from the sell on clause.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on July 23, 2021, 11:54:06 am
I don't think it's a coincidence that the papers are reporting that Mbappe won't sign a new contract this morning.

They've confirmed the new shirt is released at 4pm.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on July 23, 2021, 11:55:45 am
It could be Koiki.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 23, 2021, 11:56:40 am
NEW SIGNING IMMINENT!

Clues ntfclad...?

I guess the question to be asked is whether this is a striker or a left back?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cox23jam on July 23, 2021, 11:58:50 am
It is important that the club have said signing news... Does that mean Chuks has agreed a contract? One of the trialists has signed a deal? Or someone has signed an extension?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 23, 2021, 12:01:51 pm
I doudt that it will be Koiki as he has only had 1 game and I think JB will need to see more of him. Debayo had 3 games before he was let go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 23, 2021, 12:03:06 pm
Koliki signs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 23, 2021, 12:04:14 pm
An injury prone left back signed on a one year deal to provide cover for another injury prone left back 😀


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 23, 2021, 12:06:20 pm
An injury prone left back signed on a one year deal to provide cover for another injury prone left back 😀
How exciting  :P
FFS sign a striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2021, 12:06:21 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-cobblers-sign-left-back-koiki-after-successful-trial-3320528


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 23, 2021, 12:06:44 pm
Interesting to see Cambridge’s Paul Mullins has dropped out the football league to sign for Wrexham..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 23, 2021, 12:20:24 pm
Interesting to see Cambridge’s Paul Mullins has dropped out the football league to sign for Wrexham..
That’s a great signing for them !!!

Meanwhile at sixfields the great proven striker search enters its second season  ::)

Luckily we’ve just had a windfall from the crooks sale so we can add that to the Goode money to reinvest ::)

# free transfer
# unproven youth loan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 23, 2021, 12:21:43 pm
Interesting to see Cambridge’s Paul Mullins has dropped out the football league to sign for Wrexham..

Wow, money talks...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 23, 2021, 12:21:53 pm
I thought Debayo did alright, but surprised for them to go for the other lad, but I guess I haven't seen him play.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 23, 2021, 12:26:00 pm
That’s a great signing for them !!!

Meanwhile at sixfields the great proven striker search enters its second season  ::)

Luckily we’ve just had a windfall from the crooks sale so we can add that to the Goode money to reinvest ::)

# free transfer
# unproven youth loan
# chairman who couldn’t give a toss


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 23, 2021, 13:00:17 pm
Rotherham fans don't seem bothered that Crooks has gone, seems to have been the same with them as when he was here. Gist of Rotherham comments "On his day a great player on another day he couldn't be arsed". I liked Crooks but he rarely put in a 90 minute performance and I am surprised that Middlesborough have paid a reported 1.1million for him. As we sold him for £200,000 they have made a £900,000 profit, I wonder what our % of that we get from the sell on clause.
Yes, but then neither did that drunk from Belfast who scored a few against us a while back!  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 23, 2021, 13:04:20 pm
I thought Debayo did alright, but surprised for them to go for the other lad, but I guess I haven't seen him play.

He looked very assured against Forest


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 23, 2021, 13:49:37 pm
I think Koiki is a good signing
Young but with good experience/pedigree

had injury issues which is why he's not playing at a higher level to us, great reviews wherever he's been
only a 1 year contract so not exactly a big risk
provides competition for Mills whilst also offering a slightly different option if he can keep fit this time round

Looks an absolute tank, does the defending side very well

If it was a perfect signing then it wouldnt be for us, have to look at it that way! Some people wont ever be happy

I'd like one more option up top now and I think thats the squad finished


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 23, 2021, 14:00:16 pm
People expressing doubts about giving a 12 month contract to a player that has been unfortunate with injuries?
Cue the same people moaning, when he has an absolutely outstanding season and we have to let him go in a years time to another club for absolutely nothing?  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 23, 2021, 14:14:07 pm
People expressing doubts about giving a 12 month contract to a player that has been unfortunate with injuries?
Cue the same people moaning, when he has an absolutely outstanding season and we have to let him go in a years time to another club for absolutely nothing?  8)

You’d hope this time round we have a clause in our favour of extending it for another year in his contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 23, 2021, 15:31:32 pm
Interesting to see Cambridge’s Paul Mullins has dropped out the football league to sign for Wrexham..

So he's turned down League 1 for National League? Obviously lacks ambition, only in it for the money.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 23, 2021, 16:00:55 pm
So he's turned down League 1 for National League? Obviously lacks ambition, only in it for the money.

Seems a little harsh, who knows where Wrexham will be in a few years time. Even if money is a concern I don’t see anything that wrong with a lower league footballer on the back of a good season maximising what he can provide for any family on what is a short career.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 23, 2021, 16:03:41 pm
So he's turned down League 1 for National League? Obviously lacks ambition, only in it for the money.

On the other hand great to see someone willing to fight for success and to take a risk.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 23, 2021, 16:06:22 pm
Maybe he's a Deadpool fan?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 23, 2021, 16:19:14 pm
An injury prone left back signed on a one year deal to provide cover for another injury prone left back 😀

You certainly know how to cheer us all up.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 23, 2021, 16:57:10 pm
Well the cheap full back cover has been brought in as predicted.
Lets hope he's got something about him. Cant see much else coming through the doors now apart from few loans and maybe a striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 23, 2021, 18:59:40 pm
I’ve just heard from a friend that the chronicle sports reporter , I think he said his name was James has reported we may sign a striker but in his opinion it wasn’t essential.

Now I don’t know James from Adam and I’m sure he’s a lovely chap but I assume he must know a lot about cricket , rugby and bowls.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2021, 19:11:58 pm
I’ve just heard from a friend that the chronicle sports reporter , I think he said his name was James has reported we may sign a striker but in his opinion it wasn’t essential.

Now I don’t know James from Adam and I’m sure he’s a lovely chap but I assume he must know a lot about cricket , rugby and bowls.



I can believe James Heneghan might have said that. And if he has, that’s ridiculous  ; at least one starting striker is required.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 23, 2021, 19:24:58 pm
Seems a little harsh, who knows where Wrexham will be in a few years time. Even if money is a concern I don’t see anything that wrong with a lower league footballer on the back of a good season maximising what he can provide for any family on what is a short career.

Rather than a slight on the player, it was meant as an aside to the posters who criticise the club's lack of ambition, by not signing a player like Mullins. Obviously any player can do whatever he feels is best for himself and his family.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on July 23, 2021, 19:29:15 pm
I can believe James Heneghan might have said that. And if he has, that’s ridiculous  ; at least one starting striker is required.

If Caleb is as good as everybody is making out then we dont need a striker ???

If Caleb gets sold,  we need a striker.

If Caleb isnt as good as everybody is making out we should sell him and sign a striker.

Take your pick


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 23, 2021, 19:37:05 pm
Rather than a slight on the player, it was meant as an aside to the posters who criticise the club's lack of ambition, by not signing a player like Mullins. Obviously any player can do whatever he feels is best for himself and his family.

Could be worse. Imagine being a Cambridge supporter?

They supposedly offered Mullin the best deal they could, and he rejected their offer to play in league one to join a national league side.

The spin might well say "came here for the project" but we all know its been done for the lure of Hollywood cash. Not that I blame him for that though.

Also back towards the North West, where most of his career has played out.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 23, 2021, 20:00:28 pm
Koiki must have something about him as Burnley offered him a new contract just over a year ago so a premiership club obviously thought he had potential. Perhaps Mr Dyche alerted us to his attributes.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 23, 2021, 20:10:26 pm
Colin West and Alan Sheehan have joined up again with KC at Oldham.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on July 23, 2021, 20:14:09 pm
Koiki must have something about him as Burnley offered him a new contract just over a year ago so a premiership club obviously thought he had potential. Perhaps Mr Dyche alerted us to his attributes.

He's been here a relatively short time and played one non-competitive game and Brady has seen enough of him to make him an offer. I'd say the omens are pretty good.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 23, 2021, 21:00:10 pm
If Caleb is as good as everybody is making out then we dont need a striker ???

If Caleb gets sold,  we need a striker.

If Caleb isnt as good as everybody is making out we should sell him and sign a striker.

Take your pick

Caleb has scored once in 28 or something like that

He’s not fit to lace Ivan toneys laces at the same point in his career.

If we signed someone who’d scored one in 28 we’d soon be moaning and rightly so.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 23, 2021, 23:03:16 pm
You'd think we'd have some funds to bring in a half decent striker...perhaps that lad Kab Tishimanga from Boreham Wood

The fee we got for Harry Smith (plus freeing up his half decent wages) PLUS the bonus received from Goode getting promoted with Brentford PLUS now the alleged 20% sell on fee we get from the Matt Crooks deal today (20% has been quoted by Rotherham fans)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 06:50:33 am
You'd think we'd have some funds to bring in a half decent striker...perhaps that lad Kab Tishimanga from Boreham Wood

The fee we got for Harry Smith (plus freeing up his half decent wages) PLUS the bonus received from Goode getting promoted with Brentford PLUS now the alleged 20% sell on fee we get from the Matt Crooks deal today (20% has been quoted by Rotherham fans)

No excuses.

A failure to buy a decent proven striker will tell everyone the club is going nowhere.
In an ideal world they need a couple.

The only thing proven by our strikers last season (in the loose sense of the word) is that they showed  they were nowhere near good enough and were out scored by a midfielder who didn’t play every game and has since also moved on to tranmere.

Given that we played last season with a pathetic forward line we actually did amazingly well to nearly stay up.
That same pathetic forward line is still here and we have now lost last seasons top scorer.

Dress it up how you like but we are desperately short of firepower and unless it’s addressed we could find ourselves doing well to retain league status.

Not scoring goals is a bad habit to get into and only ends up one way.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 24, 2021, 07:02:55 am
I don't fully agree, Shoey. I don't think our strikers were particularly bad last year, they were just starved of supply and we lacked a striker who could conjure something out of nothing (a rare commodity in the lower leagues).

We seem to have addressed the lack of supply over the summer, so for me the forwards are starting with a clean slate.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 24, 2021, 07:38:35 am
We'll see very soon and fully understandable to have concerns that we're going to struggle up front. Different league, lots of different players elsewhere. The goals could be spread around and as we've well established we very, very rarely have anyone getting near the 20 mark.
Just having a competent keeper will make a big difference, so may not rely on having to score 2/3 every game.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on July 24, 2021, 08:17:30 am
No excuses.

A failure to buy a decent proven striker will tell everyone the club is going nowhere.
In an ideal world they need a couple.

The only thing proven by our strikers last season (in the loose sense of the word) is that they showed  they were nowhere near good enough and were out scored by a midfielder who didn’t play every game and has since also moved on to tranmere.

Given that we played last season with a pathetic forward line we actually did amazingly well to nearly stay up.
That same pathetic forward line is still here and we have now lost last seasons top scorer.

Dress it up how you like but we are desperately short of firepower and unless it’s addressed we could find ourselves doing well to retain league status.

Not scoring goals is a bad habit to get into and only ends up one way.




Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 24, 2021, 08:45:00 am
I don't fully agree, Shoey. I don't think our strikers were particularly bad last year, they were just starved of supply and we lacked a striker who could conjure something out of nothing (a rare commodity in the lower leagues).

We seem to have addressed the lack of supply over the summer, so for me the forwards are starting with a clean slate.
The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles), and was dispossesed the least , which I think means we were just too cautious and worried about losing the ball to try taking people on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 24, 2021, 08:46:31 am
Caleb has scored once in 28 or something like that

He’s not fit to lace Ivan toneys laces at the same point in his career.

If we signed someone who’d scored one in 28 we’d soon be moaning and rightly so.

I think there are some caveats to that.

Toney's initial goals came in league two against inferior opposition. Caleb had very few starts in a team struggling to create chances.

I also think that Caleb will end up being a different type of player to Toney. He's more of a deep-lying creative forward than an out-and-out centre forward.

However, I agree with you that we definitely shouldn't be going into this season
relying on Caleb to be our elusive 15+ goalscorer. If he stays then I would think that he will continue to be used as a game-changing option off the bench more often than not.

It will be interesting to see who Brady prefers up front today. BAS and Kabamba seem to have been his preferred pairing so far, but that may be because Rose is isolating.
I would find it hard to choose between BAS, Kabamba and Rose on current evidence so it may be a case of picking the players who are in form and (hopefully) scoring goals.



 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 24, 2021, 08:51:33 am
I’ve just heard from a friend that the chronicle sports reporter , I think he said his name was James has reported we may sign a striker but in his opinion it wasn’t essential.

Now I don’t know James from Adam and I’m sure he’s a lovely chap but I assume he must know a lot about cricket , rugby and bowls.

https://twitter.com/James_ChronNTFC/status/1418629498568839177
Probably should read the thing before you slag someone off mate, might make you look like a proper moron when you're wrong. Nothing about his opinion on whether we need a striker whatsoever in there. 

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Ideally they would like another forward in but don't think it's seen as absolutely essential. Can't see much else happening, unless players leave #ntfc


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 24, 2021, 09:21:49 am
Buying a proven reliable striker a league 2 or even league 1 level is the holy grail of recruitment. I can only think of a handful of times we have managed that over the last 40 years or so. Every time we spend big on a striker it rarely seems to work out. Most of our best ones seem to be a surprise package, Morton, Morley, Massey, Marquis McGleish. Hang on a minute, their names all begin with M. Who needs data when you have something as fool proof as that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 24, 2021, 09:24:10 am
The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles), and was dispossesed the least , which I think means we were just too cautious and worried about losing the ball to try taking people on.

The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles)

Interesting. This is exactly the kind of statistical analysis that I hope Brady is looking at.

For me, as I've said before, the primary problem was the supply line. Time and again
the delivery from wide areas from the likes of Hoskins and Miller was poor. The only player we had in the latter part of the season who looked like creating anything was Marshall, but his fitness was always a concern and teams soon worked out then if you nullified him you snuffed out our threat completely. There was also a lack of incisive passing from our supposedly more creative central midfielders, Sowerby and Morris.

Curle's side relied heavily on deep crosses and set pieces from the 'L2-assist-king' Nicky Adams, but I think L1 defences were competent enough to snuff out this one-dimensional threat and in any case we didn't have an Oliver-esque targetman to get on the end of them.

I would say that the signings of Pinnock, Connolly, Flores and possibly even McGowan may have addressed the supply line problem. I'm fairly confident that we will create more chances than last year (particularly as we'll be up against inferior opposition who won't be playing 60%+ possession football). The attention will now fall on our forwards' finishing. It will be interesting to see how Rose and BAS do when they actually have chances presented to them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 24, 2021, 09:25:34 am
Buying a proven reliable striker a league 2 or even league 1 level is the holy grail of recruitment. I can only think of a handful of times we have managed that over the last 40 years or so. Every time we spend big on a striker it rarely seems to work out. Most of our best ones seem to be a surprise package, Morton, Morley, Massey, Marquis McGleish. Hang on a minute, their names all begin with M. Who needs data when you have something as fool proof as that.
Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 24, 2021, 09:35:58 am
Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?
Er, Andy Kirk was one wasn’t he? 125k in 2005 was kind of big money. Gabbiadini was another who was a bit of an anti climax although I’m not sure we paid big money for him, although others did?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 09:41:25 am
Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.
If you know I’ve been going on about it for ten years then your post rate is about 2 a year
I wouldn’t waste 50% of your yearly output on me.

That’s unless you’re one of many on here who feel they have to change their usernames every time they have a difference of opinion and flounce off only to reappear a few weeks later under a new identity.

For the record I’m not in that camp


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 09:48:03 am
https://twitter.com/James_ChronNTFC/status/1418629498568839177
Probably should read the thing before you slag someone off mate, might make you look like a proper moron when you're wrong. Nothing about his opinion on whether we need a striker whatsoever in there. 

Apologies to James
As I said it was relayed by a friend over the phone as I wouldn’t and don’t bother with the chronicle since they failed to back the supporters during Cardoza gate and the reporting is just a rehash of the official cobblers party line by all accounts.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 24, 2021, 10:03:35 am
Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.

Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 24, 2021, 10:12:03 am
Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  ;)
The mind boggles as to what the fûckers get up to in their social lives.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on July 24, 2021, 10:16:24 am
Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?
Jamie Forrester?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 10:17:53 am
Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  ;)
Fair play ;)

But at least I’ve been consistent.
I won’t attend sixfields until the mythical redevelopment is completed.
That’s my way of showing my dissatisfaction.

If I was a trust board member however I’d have changed my mind a number of times and would have been in and out of sixfields as the mood took me  ;D ;D

I also will only post pre season as I’m not attending matches I think it’s unfair to post anything until the seasons over and it’s more interesting reading other posters comments.

This is my stance
It has been for now my fourth season and I’m nowhere near knowing (along with every other supporter) when that will change.

Another season arrives , no change , apathy reigns.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on July 24, 2021, 10:21:00 am
Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  ;)

Totally agree Deepcut.
Can we limit him to two posts per year - just in case he has anything of interest to post?




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 24, 2021, 10:30:23 am
Are we going to sing "there's only one Abd-Al-Ali Morakinyo Olaposi Koiki"?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 10:43:42 am
Totally agree Deepcut.
Can we limit him to two posts per year - just in case he has anything of interest to post?



As opposed to the above interesting post


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 24, 2021, 11:27:46 am
Jamie Forrester?
I thought he was good though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 24, 2021, 12:02:06 pm
Ah the yearly Shoemaker breakdown over us not spending 500k on a striker. One of my favourite times of the year.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest1269 on July 24, 2021, 12:31:16 pm

That’s unless you’re one of many on here who feel they have to change their usernames every time they have a difference of opinion and flounce off only to reappear a few weeks later under a new identity.

For the record I’m not in that camp

I think we would quickly recognise you whatever moniker you used - one can’t argue that your posts aren’t consistent 😀


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 24, 2021, 12:58:19 pm
I think we would quickly recognise you whatever moniker you used - one can’t argue that your posts aren’t consistent 😀
Thankyou

I’m proving a far more interesting topic than our striker signings that’s for sure  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 24, 2021, 13:01:01 pm
Only one player scored 20 or more goals in league 2 last season, and only 11 players 15 plus. Of those are there any who we would have a realistic chance of signing?

I doubt there are any regular 20 goal a season players in league 2. If a player is capable of scoring 20 plus a season regularly in League 2, they are not going to be in League 2, they will rise to the level of their incompetence.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 24, 2021, 13:45:51 pm
Are we going to sing "there's only one Abd-Al-Ali Morakinyo Olaposi Koiki"?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the Ali koiki


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on July 24, 2021, 13:54:12 pm
Chukwuemeka in a swop deal with Spurs striker
Kane coming this way,

you heard it here first


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 24, 2021, 14:51:20 pm
Which club will he be joining next week?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on July 25, 2021, 16:38:01 pm
Shoemaker is good for a laugh, perfect example of a non supporting football supporter. His latest is he doesnt read the Chron' but believes all the bull his clueless mate tells him down the phone  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: RowN on July 25, 2021, 17:32:50 pm
Paying for a marquee striker?? Unless they are ultra good, I wouldn’t sign a striker on the assumption they will do the job for us, over the 20+ years as a ST holder, we have supposed to have signed fantastic attackers only to find out they are duds!! I would rather get them in on loan ie Morton, Marquis, Cox etc THEN if any good, buy them. Ie Try before you buy. Yes it will  cost more, but we’ve wasted  so much cash over the years, to stay where we are, it’s stupidly criminal!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 25, 2021, 18:31:57 pm
Who cares how much a good striker costs? I am forever reading on here how much we get from sell-ons, how we should save by using loans, how we should speculate to accumulate... We are currently at least 6 million smackers in debt with no assets to speak of so let's spend big, it ain't our wonga. I reckon we should go for Clarke-Harris or Yates or Jephcott or Matt Jay. Pay them the earth. Let's see something worth seeing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 25, 2021, 18:37:03 pm
Who cares how much a good striker costs? I am forever reading on here how much we get from sell-ons, how we should save by using loans, how we should speculate to accumulate... We are currently at least 6 million smackers in debt with no assets to speak of so let's spend big, it ain't our wonga. I reckon we should go for Clarke-Harris or Yates or Jephcott or Matt Jay. Pay them the earth. Let's see something worth seeing!
SOG for chairman.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 25, 2021, 19:21:31 pm
Agree SOG for chairman provided he stumps up the £xmillion it would take to sign Clarke-Harris.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 25, 2021, 19:37:55 pm
Shoemaker is good for a laugh, perfect example of a non supporting football supporter. His latest is he doesnt read the Chron' but believes all the bull his clueless mate tells him down the phone  ;D
Thanks for thinking of me and posting
It’s great to think I’m at the forefront of many posters minds.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 25, 2021, 19:53:27 pm
I am most honoured to be thrust into the spotlight as a front-runner for new Chairman. Unfortunately as I consider myself non-binary there is no way I could consider this position within my repertoire. However, as I am gender fluid I may slip into it in the near future. Meanwhile, readers, remember sex of one and half a dozen of the other.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 25, 2021, 20:07:44 pm
I am most honoured to be thrust into the spotlight as a front-runner for new Chairman. Unfortunately as I consider myself non-binary there is no way I could consider this position within my repertoire. However, as I am gender fluid I may slip into it in the near future. Meanwhile, readers, remember sex of one and half a dozen of the other.
As you are gender fluid, what are you referring to yourself as today?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Follyking on July 25, 2021, 20:41:52 pm
Kion Etete


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 25, 2021, 20:46:18 pm
Kion Etete


Possible player involved in the alledged swap deal involving Celeb to Spurs?

Whatever happens, would be ideal to get it sorted before the season starts as Celeb ain't ever signing a pro deal with us....rather we get something / someone in exchange for him now, else he'll just wait out & walk in Jan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on July 25, 2021, 22:41:07 pm
Kion Etete


At 6’6” he’s one inch taller than Big ‘Arry.
Recent posts seem to suggest that the club and their supporters rate him higher than a Div 2 loanee!
Talking of Championship loan or even getting his chance in their first team!!
Why would they want Caleb when they have him?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 26, 2021, 08:04:11 am
Kion Etete


https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-tottenham-offering-etete-in-exchange-as-talks-advance-on-striker-signing/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1627279465 (https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-tottenham-offering-etete-in-exchange-as-talks-advance-on-striker-signing/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1627279465)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 26, 2021, 08:07:18 am
Player swap deals are always included in bizarre made up rumours, and I never know why because they're impossibly uncommon.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on July 26, 2021, 09:15:54 am
Controversial opinion maybe but I would not be devastated if we lose Caleb

Obviously I'd rather keep him, I think there is a real player there and would be an asset/go on to make us some money in a sale
However he's never nailed down a starting spot, he is not unreplaceable in what he offers to the squad

When Toney or Goode left, we were sat round thinking how do we get a similar player of that quality in the playing team and the answer was we couldn't
Chuks shows glimpses of raw talent and there's a reason big clubs will be in for him to take a chance he develops but he clearly hasn't impressed either KC or JB enough to be 'the main man' up front

I'd love to keep him for a year or so in L2, watch him develop with some game time and make money in a sale but if he does go then I think we'll be fine
As for the Kion Etete swap deal, it does seem to have some relative heat from decent sources but I agree how rare swap deals are, would be an eye brow raiser!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 26, 2021, 09:24:05 am
As for the Kion Etete swap deal, it does seem to have some relative heat from decent sources but I agree how rare swap deals are, would be an eye brow raiser!

If it is True I'd imagine it would be cash for Caleb and the lad on loan as a sweetener.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 26, 2021, 10:00:59 am
Surely there is no logic behind this Caleb to Spurs story?

Why would they Spurs be mulling over possibly offering a 19 year old his first professional contract, maybe even looking to negotiate a swap deal. Times can't be that tough for them.

What have they got to loose other than a grand or so a week?

This isn't a high ranking professional we are talking about, it's a kid whos on a couple of hundred quid a week and the 8th richest club in the world.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 26, 2021, 10:07:15 am
Potentially to replace Kane... 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 26, 2021, 10:13:57 am
Just Googling it, this Spurs link seems to be getting widely reported and there's no mention of Etete being a loan. I'm wary of any untried youngsters from Premier League clubs though - remember Paul Rogers from Arsenal?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 26, 2021, 10:18:54 am
I would have thought it would be more likely that they might buy him and loan him back to us - having said that I’m not sure whether JB trusts or rates him enough though. I think it’s telling that JB probably knows CC better than anyone and he still doesn’t seem overly bothered about playing him last season or this.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 26, 2021, 10:34:47 am
Caleb ain't ever signing a pro deal with us, so we've got him til Jan at the latest...

He could sign a pre contract with a club abroad & we'd get nowt...

Rather we cash in / swap deal now for a player that obviously doesn't want to be here...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on July 26, 2021, 11:27:03 am
Didn't we get a swap deal for goode when Brentford brought him?

Look how that turned out!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 26, 2021, 12:31:57 pm
it’s a pity caleb can’t learn his trade with first team football at our club before moving on after a season.
What’s the point in developing players from kids if there is no reward for the club whatsoever .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 26, 2021, 12:49:15 pm
I would have thought it would be more likely that they might buy him and loan him back to us

This would be the ideal scenario for both player and club IMO. There's no way he's going to be starting for a Premier League or Championship club any time soon so it make sense for him to stay with us, and to continue learning his trade and making an impact at L2 level.

Toney had at least two loan deals (Shrewsbury, Sc***horpe) at fairy unglamorous locations before he was ready to make a name for himself. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 26, 2021, 14:18:29 pm
it’s a pity caleb can’t learn his trade with first team football at our club before moving on after a season.
What’s the point in developing players from kids if there is no reward for the club whatsoever .

Its an absolute no brainer, choosing between a contract at Tottenham and Northampton, not even taking into account that your younger brother is already knocking down the door at Aston Villa, no-one wants to be the underachieving brother! I guess the point with the youth team is for every Chuk who is good enough to poached for zilch due to epp, you'll get a few McWilliams who are at our level or just above, and if the big club scouts misjudge someone you may get a payday come from it later.

The performance plan giving multi billionaire clubs the ability to plunder smaller clubs at under market value is just dumb all around however. Like allowing Tesco to buy up stock from local grocers at 20% of normal price as and when they want.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on July 26, 2021, 14:38:58 pm
Welly Cobb hits the nail on the head.

I came to the conclusion a few months ago that peer pressure will be the key here. His younger brother is making a big impact at Aston Villa and Caleb will want a piece of the action more than most. In his bubble, he will most likely consider himself to be at least at his brothers level, and is probably very frustrated that he's having to tough it out in the lower leagues whilst his brother is looking ahead to a season where he could well break into Villa's first team on a regular basis and lord it up as a premier league player.

If I was 18 years old, and was in his position Id feel exactly the bloody same...

I think its one of those where we have to simply hold out for a bit before taking the best offer (if it comes), and let him get on with it.

Its a real shame he wont commit himself here. If he did, I think come January things would likely play out (if he's good enough) and he'd have earned a stab at a higher level. But in his mind, he's probably thinking 'what if I get injured'...

Of course Im making this all up as I go along, I may well be completely wrong. But thats how I see it from looking outside, in!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 26, 2021, 14:47:48 pm
I see the great but woefully injury prone Sheehan has teamed up with KC at Oldham. Player/coach role.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 26, 2021, 14:58:16 pm
You are a bit late there Coolcat, I posted that West and Sheehan had joined KC at Oldham 3 days ago.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 26, 2021, 15:14:10 pm
I wonder if Caleb's agent / dad reads this message board and has a good chuckle to himself...

On paper we've got a 19 year old kid, who is bit part player of an average league two club and available for absolute peanuts.

So far we've had Club Brugge, Villa, Spurs, Rangers, Southampton & Norwich all 'very interested' but failing to land the scholar whose contract is up in 5 months.

This speculation has been rumbling on for 8 months.

Time we, our 5th choice striker and his agent / dad get back into the real world.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 26, 2021, 15:32:15 pm
I wonder if Caleb's agent / dad reads this message board and has a good chuckle to himself...

On paper we've got a 19 year old kid, who is bit part player of an average league two club and available for absolute peanuts.

So far we've had Club Brugge, Villa, Spurs, Rangers, Southampton & Norwich all 'very interested' but failing to land the scholar whose contract is up in 5 months.

This speculation has been rumbling on for 8 months.

Time we, our 5th choice striker and his agent / dad get back into the real world.
You’ve hit the nail on the head with his agent, he’ll be pushing like hell to get this deal done.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 26, 2021, 15:51:44 pm
We don't really have a great track record at bringing people on and selling them onto big clubs, usually players move onto another club before then moving on again, Caleb possibly has a chance to skip the stepping stone and go straight to a big club, like Toney did and although that didnt work out for him in terms of longevity at Newcastle it did give him the chance to work with better coaches and facilities and its hard to argue that he would have developed the same way had he stayed with us for longer.
My opinion is the same as that of a few others here - he wasn't a regular starter for us last year when other strikers were not scoring, he doesn't want to be here so let him go, other than a potentially bigger windfall are we actually going to miss him? There is no guarantee he would set the world alight if he stayed so I think we should just get the best deal we can for him now.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 26, 2021, 16:22:23 pm
You’ve hit the nail on the head with his agent, he’ll be pushing like hell to get this deal done.

But given the very minor sums involved and the 8 months + of discussions, are we certain there is a deal on the table at all?

As Brady says, he has heard nothing...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 26, 2021, 19:08:20 pm
You are a bit late there Coolcat, I posted that West and Sheehan had joined KC at Oldham 3 days ago.
OK, will try again;
Good 2-0 win this evening against R&D at the 🦮&🦆  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 26, 2021, 19:54:09 pm
OK, will try again;
Good 2-0 win this evening against R&D at the 🦮&🦆  :)

Only two  ??? I expected at least 10.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 26, 2021, 20:08:18 pm
Have another try, we are not playing until tomorrow evening.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 26, 2021, 22:28:19 pm
But given the very minor sums involved and the 8 months + of discussions, are we certain there is a deal on the table at all?

As Brady says, he has heard nothing...

If there was a hint of a serious deal he would be gone.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 27, 2021, 07:26:50 am
But given the very minor sums involved and the 8 months + of discussions, are we certain there is a deal on the table at all?

As Brady says, he has heard nothing...

I heard that Caleb has the same agent as George Weah's cousin.
It does all seem to be agent talk and paper talk.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 27, 2021, 09:14:14 am
I heard that Caleb has the same agent as George Weah's cousin.
It does all seem to be agent talk and paper talk.
Trying to talk up his value, happens all the time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 27, 2021, 10:27:31 am
Trying to talk up his value, happens all the time.

The value of which is very very low.

Caleb is 20 in a couple of months and is yet to break into the first team. He remains the 5th choice striker of an average league two side. To date, he’s scored 1 in 22 league games over around 530 minutes and has one assist. 

To put it into perspective, Caleb is nearly two years older than Toney when he was scoring goals regularly at league 2 level. By the age of 20 Toney was well established and scoring regularly at league 1 level.

Caleb has a long way to go.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on July 27, 2021, 10:31:28 am
Callum Morton joins Fleetwood on a season long loan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on July 27, 2021, 10:39:02 am
I dunno, whenever I see him play I do think he does have the X factor. Last game of the season he came on for 10 minutes, and got us the free-kick that got us a goal which was more than his seasoned professionals around him have him done. He's definitely coasting on potential rather than ability right now, but I watch his confidence on the ball and his desire to go at players and think he's got something in there, particularly at his age. Obviously, where he is at the moment does mean that losing him is not like losing a key player, but I think if we kept him I'd back it to be his breakthrough year. Maybe the same with Pollock as well of course. That said, it's all academic, as it is an impossible task to keep him if Champions League teams are coming calling.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 27, 2021, 10:52:33 am
He is still young though and could go either way. With the right coaching, development, opportunities, dedication and luck, any talented young player can be unrecognisable in 5 years time.
Apart from the personal dedication (and potential opportunity) he probably won’t see it with us.
Remember Toney did nothing at Newcastle.

Not every player is an obvious superstar at 19/20 and there are plenty of established Championship players out of our league.
I hope we see some more of him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 27, 2021, 10:57:44 am
Have another try, we are not playing until tomorrow evening.
Oh Lord! Look what's 🚀 over your 🧔!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 27, 2021, 11:00:39 am
The value of which is very very low.

Caleb is 20 in a couple of months and is yet to break into the first team. He remains the 5th choice striker of an average league two side. To date, he’s scored 1 in 22 league games over around 530 minutes and has one assist. 

To put it into perspective, Caleb is nearly two years older than Toney when he was scoring goals regularly at league 2 level. By the age of 20 Toney was well established and scoring regularly at league 1 level.

Caleb has a long way to go.
So either, he's past it...or still a long way to go?  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 27, 2021, 11:08:50 am
So either, he's past it...or still a long way to go?  ???

Maybe there’s a clue in the last line of the post  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 27, 2021, 11:33:58 am
I think some of the comments here have taken too much to heart that one of our youngsters doesn't want to be at the club. Some thoughts:

- Ivan Toney wasn't judged to be Championship level until aged 24. Caleb has 5 years until that age. Comparisons at age 18/19 are somewhat redundant as accurately judging the level of potential a player has, and what chance they have of reaching it is a very difficult skill which I doubt any of us on this site have.

- Caleb is at least 6'3, strong and quick, a good dribbler, technically strong, and is an aesthetically-pleasing forward. This is going to be ticking a lot of boxes for higher level clubs looking to take a low-value punt on a talented young player.

- A club like Spurs can afford to pay what would seem like a big sum to us (but would merely be a week's wages for one of their squad players) and give him time to play in their u23's squad. If in the off-chance Caleb has an unexpected rise to the first like Dele Alli then great, if more likely not then he probably stays in the u23's for 3 years until 22/23, and then is probably sold to recoup the initial fee paid, or perhaps more. Transfers like these to big clubs are like spread betting, the deals pose them very low risk and can net them a small continual flow of easy money (or perhaps better if things go well).

- I seem to be in the minority given the other comments but I think Caleb is already a really excellent player, and certainly not a "5th choice striker". As a forward he already has an excellent physique and great technical attributes aged just 19. Any in-game short comings can be corrected over time with coaching - and I'll add that I believe that JB and CC could address this themselves if Caleb does decide to sign.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 27, 2021, 11:59:05 am
So Fleetwood now have 2 prolific strikers on loan that we previously had, Morton and Edmondson.

Why are people saying Chucks is our 5th choice striker I thought we only had 4 or have I missed a signing. Kabamba, Rose, Benny and Chucks surely  you are not rating our winger, midfielder, wingback Hoskins as an out and out striker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 27, 2021, 13:04:26 pm
So Fleetwood now have 2 prolific strikers on loan that we previously had, Morton and Edmondson.

Why are people saying Chucks is our 5th choice striker I thought we only had 4 or have I missed a signing. Kabamba, Rose, Benny and Chucks surely  you are not rating our winger, midfielder, wingback Hoskins as an out and out striker.
Just the one i think


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 27, 2021, 13:10:06 pm
So Fleetwood now have 2 prolific strikers on loan that we previously had, Morton and Edmondson.

Why are people saying Chucks is our 5th choice striker I thought we only had 4 or have I missed a signing. Kabamba, Rose, Benny and Chucks surely  you are not rating our winger, midfielder, wingback Hoskins as an out and out striker.
BAS isn’t even a footballer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 27, 2021, 13:16:43 pm
I thought BAS was better on Saturday, good play in setting Pinnock up for the first goal. We have had players before who were not rated in their first season and then improved ie Langmead.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 27, 2021, 13:51:26 pm
BAS will probably prove a few people wrong this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 27, 2021, 13:56:58 pm
I thought BAS was better on Saturday, good play in setting Pinnock up for the first goal. We have had players before who were not rated in their first season and then improved ie Langmead.

O'Toole!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Freddie Ramscar on July 27, 2021, 14:49:50 pm
I thought BAS was better on Saturday, good play in setting Pinnock up for the first goal. We have had players before who were not rated in their first season and then improved ie Langmead.


Mike Everitt.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 27, 2021, 15:04:00 pm
BAS will probably prove a few people wrong this season.
I’ll have a wager with you he won’t, he’s utterly useless.
The only thing that’s changed is his work rate, everything else is the same.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 27, 2021, 15:11:31 pm
I’ll have a wager with you he won’t, he’s utterly useless.
The only thing that’s changed is his work rate, everything else is the same.

I don't wager on players I've never seen in the flesh, I just expressed a probability and didn't indicate which way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on July 27, 2021, 15:55:30 pm
Ref BAS

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ashley-seal-wolves-manchester-united-15196228

Interesting article and still only 18 months old.

BAS is still only 22. The times he did score last season (3 goals in the EFL Trophy thing), were against weaker opposition. That for starters, gives me hope...

I think many people are writing him off way too soon. Clearly he had an issue with confidence last season, not surprising really though to be fair.

Maybe, just maybe...he will be a real star this season. A few short years ago he was in real high demand. For whatever reason, its not happened for him yet in 'mens football'. Aside from the EFL trophy matches. I think he actually scored for Accrington in them as well...maybe wrong, just recall reading something about it when we signed him.

We head into this season, as things stand, with 4 potentially great strikers at this level, but also with 4 potential 'duds'! The latter, based on last season. BUT they didn't get any service, did they?!

Id say wipe the slate clean. There's a chance they could be brilliant. With the right coaching, confidence from a good start to the season, and a bit of luck....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 27, 2021, 15:57:47 pm
BAS will probably prove a few people wrong this season.

and then leave for nothing next summer then move on again in 2 years for about £5m



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 27, 2021, 16:02:11 pm
Ref BAS

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ashley-seal-wolves-manchester-united-15196228

Interesting article and still only 18 months old.

BAS is still only 22. The times he did score last season (3 goals in the EFL Trophy thing), were against weaker opposition. That for starters, gives me hope...

I think many people are writing him off way too soon. Clearly he had an issue with confidence last season, not surprising really though to be fair.

Maybe, just maybe...he will be a real star this season. A few short years ago he was in real high demand. For whatever reason, its not happened for him yet in 'mens football'. Aside from the EFL trophy matches. I think he actually scored for Accrington in them as well...maybe wrong, just recall reading something about it when we signed him.

We head into this season, as things stand, with 4 potentially great strikers at this level, but also with 4 potential 'duds'! The latter, based on last season. BUT they didn't get any service, did they?!

Id say wipe the slate clean. There's a chance they could be brilliant. With the right coaching, confidence from a good start to the season, and a bit of luck....

That article certainly doesn’t sound anything like the Benny we’ve ended up with!

Fingers crossed he turns it round and brings back that first touch, close control, turn of pace and ability in the air he apparently used to have!

The only thing he repeatedly managed to do last year was fall over his own feet.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 27, 2021, 16:17:14 pm
Ref BAS

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ashley-seal-wolves-manchester-united-15196228

Interesting article and still only 18 months old.

BAS is still only 22. The times he did score last season (3 goals in the EFL Trophy thing), were against weaker opposition. That for starters, gives me hope...

I think many people are writing him off way too soon. Clearly he had an issue with confidence last season, not surprising really though to be fair.

Maybe, just maybe...he will be a real star this season. A few short years ago he was in real high demand. For whatever reason, its not happened for him yet in 'mens football'. Aside from the EFL trophy matches. I think he actually scored for Accrington in them as well...maybe wrong, just recall reading something about it when we signed him.

We head into this season, as things stand, with 4 potentially great strikers at this level, but also with 4 potential 'duds'! The latter, based on last season. BUT they didn't get any service, did they?!

Id say wipe the slate clean. There's a chance they could be brilliant. With the right coaching, confidence from a good start to the season, and a bit of luck....
Don’t get me wrong Drilling, I love him to turn it around and prove me wrong.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 27, 2021, 16:25:06 pm
and then leave for nothing next summer then move on again in 2 years for about £5m


If that remotely looks like happening I’ll hire all the hospitality at Sixseats and buy everyone on here a right good pîss up and dinner.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 27, 2021, 17:22:18 pm
BAS was also named as one of the 20 'best young talents at Premier League clubs' in 2015 when he was at Norwich:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2015/oct/06/next-generation-2015-20-of-the-best-talents-at-premier-league-clubs

IMO we shouldn't be judging him on the basis of last season: no proper pre-season, a youngster trying to establish himself in a struggling hoofball side with no possession and lowest chance creation in the league etc.

JB seems to have favoured him in pre-season and I'm looking forward to watching him make an impact at L2 level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 27, 2021, 17:28:24 pm
If that remotely looks like happening I’ll hire all the hospitality at Sixseats and buy everyone on here a right good pîss up and dinner.

Looking forward to it mate  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 27, 2021, 18:56:18 pm
Perhaps Aston Villa, Rangers, Club Bruge, Norwich, Southampton and Tottenham have all expressed an interest in Chucks who cannot get into the starting 11 because they cannot afford our other young striker who is in the starting 11.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 27, 2021, 19:16:48 pm

Mike Everitt.


 ;D ;D

Yr right tho’


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 27, 2021, 19:36:54 pm
OK, will try again;
Good 2-0 win this evening against R&D at the 🦮&🦆  :)

 :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 27, 2021, 19:49:46 pm
If that remotely looks like happening I’ll hire all the hospitality at Sixseats and buy everyone on here a right good pîss up and dinner.
In my world that’s albino caviar, white truffles and 3 or 4 pints of champagne top, come on Benny!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 27, 2021, 20:31:58 pm
BAS was also named as one of the 20 'best young talents at Premier League clubs' in 2015 when he was at Norwich:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2015/oct/06/next-generation-2015-20-of-the-best-talents-at-premier-league-clubs

IMO we shouldn't be judging him on the basis of last season: no proper pre-season, a youngster trying to establish himself in a struggling hoofball side with no possession and lowest chance creation in the league etc.

JB seems to have favoured him in pre-season and I'm looking forward to watching him make an impact at L2 level.


Also named in the article is David Sesay my who we have recently had on trial.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 27, 2021, 20:52:30 pm
prem ins and prem outs .
Look for a common denominator and shake it all about …


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 27, 2021, 20:57:02 pm
Whilst chuks has managed to find the rushden and diamonds defence impenetrable tonight , his supposed replacement etete has scored for Spurs u23 against Hastings.

Good luck at Spurs chucks
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 27, 2021, 21:00:04 pm
Former Trialist Josh Debayo Signs Up for QOTS...
 
Defender Josh Debayo has today joined us on a one year deal.   The 24 year old left back started his youth career in London with Fulham and Chelsea. He has also had spells at Southampton and Leicester City in their youth set up. Three years ago he signed for Cheltenham where he went out on loan to Dover. The London born Nigerian rejected a new deal with The Robins and joined his last club Wealdstone but saw his time there cut short by the Covid shutdown.

Following the signing, Manager Allan Johnston said “Josh is one of several players we have been taking a look at over the past week or so and he has the quality we are looking for. He has recently been on trial with Northampton so we are pleased that he has decided to make the move north of the border instead”.

Josh should go into the squad to face Partick Thistle on Saturday subject to international clearance being received in time. He will wear shirt number 13.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on July 27, 2021, 21:10:01 pm
Former Trialist Josh Debayo Signs Up for QOTS...
 
Defender Josh Debayo has today joined us on a one year deal.   The 24 year old left back started his youth career in London with Fulham and Chelsea. He has also had spells at Southampton and Leicester City in their youth set up. Three years ago he signed for Cheltenham where he went out on loan to Dover. The London born Nigerian rejected a new deal with The Robins and joined his last club Wealdstone but saw his time there cut short by the Covid shutdown.

Following the signing, Manager Allan Johnston said “Josh is one of several players we have been taking a look at over the past week or so and he has the quality we are looking for. He has recently been on trial with Northampton so we are pleased that he has decided to make the move north of the border instead”.

Josh should go into the squad to face Partick Thistle on Saturday subject to international clearance being received in time. He will wear shirt number 13.
Will be at Queen of the South on October 2nd (against Dunfermline)  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 27, 2021, 21:16:31 pm
Former Trialist Josh Debayo Signs Up for QOTS...
 
Defender Josh Debayo has today joined us on a one year deal.   The 24 year old left back started his youth career in London with Fulham and Chelsea. He has also had spells at Southampton and Leicester City in their youth set up. Three years ago he signed for Cheltenham where he went out on loan to Dover. The London born Nigerian rejected a new deal with The Robins and joined his last club Wealdstone but saw his time there cut short by the Covid shutdown.

Following the signing, Manager Allan Johnston said “Josh is one of several players we have been taking a look at over the past week or so and he has the quality we are looking for. He has recently been on trial with Northampton so we are pleased that he has decided to make the move north of the border instead”.

Josh should go into the squad to face Partick Thistle on Saturday subject to international clearance being received in time. He will wear shirt number 13.

‘Chosen to move north of the border instead’. He wasn’t offered anything was he!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 28, 2021, 05:55:14 am
Whilst chuks has managed to find the rushden and diamonds defence impenetrable tonight , his supposed replacement etete has scored for Spurs u23 against Hastings.

Good luck at Spurs chucks
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
not quite right but getting warmer


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 28, 2021, 07:04:29 am
not quite right but getting warmer

Somewhere warmer eh?

Must be Barcelona!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on July 28, 2021, 07:16:52 am
not quite right but getting warmer
Tottingham


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on July 28, 2021, 07:29:24 am
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-major-update-on-tottenham-swoop-for-chukwuemeka-as-player-plus-cash-offer-detailed/

Surely not true...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 28, 2021, 09:29:24 am
Can't see it being true but if it is...snap their bloomin' hands off!

Any truth in the whatsoever ntfclad?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/transfer-update-emerges-involving-tottenham-hotspur-and-efl-club-as-fee-revealed/ (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/transfer-update-emerges-involving-tottenham-hotspur-and-efl-club-as-fee-revealed/)

Tottenham Hotspur are said to be offering Northampton Town a deal worth up to £1 million for Caleb Chukwuemeka in a cash plus player exchange, as per a recent report by Football Insider.

Spurs are seemingly stepping up their intentions to sign the teenage forward from the Sky Bet League Two side and it appears that negotiations are now reaching a vital stage.

It is stated further in the report that the Premier League outfit have guaranteed the Cobblers that they will receive a fee of £1 million for the 19-year-old, with add-ons also being included as part of the deal.

Whilst they also plan to send striker Kion Etete the other way to Sixfields as part of the agreement.

Northampton are also said to have received enquiries from other Premier League clubs as the future of their young prospect seems set to be determined over these next few weeks.

Chukwuemeka made 28 appearances last season after breaking into the Cobblers’ first team and has turned down Northampton’s previous offers of a professional contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on July 28, 2021, 10:03:29 am
Chucky told someone last night at the game he intends to stay ad get promoted, which would make me think there is nothing in this story.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 28, 2021, 10:17:18 am
keep getting sucked in ….
Paper talk with an awful lot of smoke and a spark of fire .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 28, 2021, 10:29:49 am
Can't see it being true but if it is...snap their bloomin' hands off!

Any truth in the whatsoever ntfclad?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/transfer-update-emerges-involving-tottenham-hotspur-and-efl-club-as-fee-revealed/ (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/transfer-update-emerges-involving-tottenham-hotspur-and-efl-club-as-fee-revealed/)

Tottenham Hotspur are said to be offering Northampton Town a deal worth up to £1 million for Caleb Chukwuemeka in a cash plus player exchange, as per a recent report by Football Insider.

Spurs are seemingly stepping up their intentions to sign the teenage forward from the Sky Bet League Two side and it appears that negotiations are now reaching a vital stage.

It is stated further in the report that the Premier League outfit have guaranteed the Cobblers that they will receive a fee of £1 million for the 19-year-old, with add-ons also being included as part of the deal.

Whilst they also plan to send striker Kion Etete the other way to Sixfields as part of the agreement.

Northampton are also said to have received enquiries from other Premier League clubs as the future of their young prospect seems set to be determined over these next few weeks.

Chukwuemeka made 28 appearances last season after breaking into the Cobblers’ first team and has turned down Northampton’s previous offers of a professional contract.

Absolutely comical.

Do people actually get paid to write this tripe?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 28, 2021, 11:40:48 am
Adam Smith played as a trialist for Hartlepool in their 2-1 defeat to Blythe Spartans last night. Seems he has been let go by every club he has played for since leaving us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 28, 2021, 13:32:22 pm
Proven goalscorer anyone……


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 28, 2021, 13:42:21 pm
Proven goalscorer anyone……

What are you going on about now?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 28, 2021, 14:35:04 pm
Proven goalscorer anyone……


Clubs at our level rarely sign one. We will need to polish a rough diamond.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on July 28, 2021, 14:50:11 pm
What are you going on about now?

He means he knows we are gonna sign one but wants to look clever when we do.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 28, 2021, 15:03:42 pm
He means he knows we are gonna sign one but wants to look clever when we do.   
I don’t need to look clever.
If you knew me you would realise I am a bona fide genius  ;)  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on July 28, 2021, 15:06:32 pm
Adam Smith played as a trialist for Hartlepool in their 2-1 defeat to Blythe Spartans last night. Seems he has been let go by every club he has played for since leaving us.

That's what happens when you don't have managers like Chris Wilder in your life.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 28, 2021, 15:52:44 pm
I don’t need to look clever.
If you knew me you would realise I am a bona fide genius  ;)  ;D

 ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 28, 2021, 16:17:44 pm
::)
;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 28, 2021, 16:18:46 pm
I don’t need to look clever.
If you knew me you would realise I am a bona fide genius  ;)  ;D

Well hopefully you are in the know and right. Don't let me down.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on July 28, 2021, 16:31:48 pm


Clubs at our level rarely sign one. We will need to polish a rough diamond.

Read the season preview of Gabriel Sutton on Twitter for betvictor. He’s got us down for 14th.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Baldy on July 28, 2021, 17:26:11 pm
I don’t need to look clever.
If you knew me you would realise I am a bona fide genius  ;)  ;D
It's true, he is. ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 28, 2021, 18:12:05 pm
Read the season preview of Gabriel Sutton on Twitter for betvictor. He’s got us down for 14th.

Seems a harsh prediction to me!

He also has Walsall in 6th which I think is being very generous to say the least, and I definitely disagree with Newport in 3rd after losing key players like Sheehan. The worst one in my eyes is Oldham in 24th - I'm not the biggest fan of Curle's style of play but he is solid enough managing in L2 and certainly isn't going to finish rock bottom!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 28, 2021, 18:31:54 pm
Proven goalscorer anyone……

Unless it's verified by ntfclad, this ain't appenin'


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on July 28, 2021, 18:42:24 pm
I don’t need to look clever.
If you knew me you would realise I am a bona fide genius  ;)  ;D

A very modest gentleman too!                                                                                                                                                     
Remember, it's a very fine line between genius and madness ;) ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 28, 2021, 19:02:55 pm
Seems a harsh prediction to me!

He also has Walsall in 6th which I think is being very generous to say the least, and I definitely disagree with Newport in 3rd after losing key players like Sheehan. The worst one in my eyes is Oldham in 24th - I'm not the biggest fan of Curle's style of play but he is solid enough managing in L2 and certainly isn't going to finish rock bottom!

I personally think Walsall have made some decent signings.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 28, 2021, 19:35:02 pm
A very modest gentleman too!                                                                                                                                                     
Remember, it's a very fine line between genius and madness ;) ;D
;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 28, 2021, 19:43:51 pm
Unless it's verified by ntfclad, this ain't appenin'
He’s the man  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on July 28, 2021, 21:05:14 pm
I reckon he joins his brother at Villa and the Young fella from Spurs joins on loan. Just a random guess


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 28, 2021, 21:41:40 pm
I personally think Walsall have made some decent signings.


Might be interesting IYO who the 'good' ones are?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 29, 2021, 02:42:43 am
Seems a harsh prediction to me!

He also has Walsall in 6th which I think is being very generous to say the least, and I definitely disagree with Newport in 3rd after losing key players like Sheehan. The worst one in my eyes is Oldham in 24th - I'm not the biggest fan of Curle's style of play but he is solid enough managing in L2 and certainly isn't going to finish rock bottom!
Ash Taylor is at Walsall, he’s on drugs. Mr disruptive will soon be causing all out war in the dressing room around Christmas onwards I’d say.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 29, 2021, 05:47:04 am
Might be interesting IYO who the 'good' ones are?

Can't remember specifics, but just recall at the time thinking "'that's a decent one" each time I saw they had made a signing.

For all his detractors, Taylor is a solid player at this level if his head is in the right place.

Ok, to update;

Connor Wilkinson from Leyton Orient.
Josh Labadie from Newport.
Stephen Ward, ex Wolves. Very experienced.
And Ash Taylor.

All fairly early signings in the window. As I  said, at the time I thought they would be useful Lge 2 signings.

Also, I do feel that Matt Taylor will prove to be a good man manager for them, which is not to be underestimated.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 29, 2021, 08:27:52 am
I reckon he joins his brother at Villa and the Young fella from Spurs joins on loan. Just a random guess
common sense prevails at last …


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 29, 2021, 08:57:49 am
common sense prevails at last …

Whatever happens, let's hope it's done before the season starts...absolutely bored of it all now & he obviously wants to leave, so let's all just move on & get it sorted.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 29, 2021, 09:25:54 am
Whatever happens, let's hope it's done before the season starts...absolutely bored of it all now & he obviously wants to leave, so let's all just move on & get it sorted.
Amen to that, I think if we get another striker we’ll be ok.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 29, 2021, 10:19:30 am
Other Walsall signings:-
Emmanuel Monthe - Tranmere
Brendan Kiernan - Harrogate
Zac Mills - Port Vale


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: The Rauldinho on July 29, 2021, 10:37:46 am
Whatever happens, let's hope it's done before the season starts...absolutely bored of it all now & he obviously wants to leave, so let's all just move on & get it sorted.

Agreed, almost fed up of seeing different variations of this across social media every day.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 29, 2021, 11:13:34 am
Other Walsall signings:-
Emmanuel Monthe - Tranmere
Brendan Kiernan - Harrogate
Zac Mills - Port Vale

Yeah, saw those too but I personally didn't think they were in the same category as the ones I had mentioned.

Kiernan could be a useful addition for them I guess?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 29, 2021, 12:40:38 pm
If Kiernan is half as good as our Joe he will be a useful addition for Walsall. Joe Kiernan, in my opinion, remains the best player we have had and I'm going back to the early 1960's.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 29, 2021, 12:41:50 pm
common sense prevails at last …

Are you suggesting something is about to happen or am I getting the wrong end of the stick (not for the first time)?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 29, 2021, 12:42:33 pm
We have a bid of £1m + player exchange
Any other offers
No
Going, going ...............


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 29, 2021, 13:32:59 pm
We have a bid of £1m + player exchange
Any other offers
No
Going, going ...............

But it's not been established as a bid though, is it? Thought it was just speculation?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 29, 2021, 13:55:40 pm
We have a bid of £1m + player exchange
Any other offers
No
Going, going ...............


I'm sure he would already be gone if we had that bid and not played against R&D!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 29, 2021, 14:02:20 pm
We have a bid of £1m + player exchange
Any other offers
No
Going, going ...............

That offer makes zero sense, with six months left on a youth contract there would be absolutely no need to bid even a fraction of that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 29, 2021, 14:11:04 pm
That offer makes zero sense, with six months left on a youth contract there would be absolutely no need to bid even a fraction of that.

My thoughts exactly - why wouldn’t you just wait 5 months and pay us a pittance via the tribunal?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 29, 2021, 14:12:12 pm
That offer makes zero sense, with six months left on a youth contract there would be absolutely no need to bid even a fraction of that.
Having met Daniel Levy personally, I can assure you this is absolute bollox.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 29, 2021, 14:29:42 pm
Having met Daniel Levy personally, I can assure you this is absolute bollox.

You're quite a celebrity, not only have you appeared on the front page of the Chron but you've also met Daniel Levy  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 29, 2021, 15:13:38 pm
My thoughts exactly - why wouldn’t you just wait 5 months and pay us a pittance via the tribunal?
Because he will be long gone before that time .
That’s why we will get money for him .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 29, 2021, 16:19:21 pm
You're quite a celebrity, not only have you appeared on the front page of the Chron but you've also met Daniel Levy  :)
I don’t think he’s going to replace Jimmy Tarbuck anytime soon if you catch my drift.
He was asking me for £4m at the time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on July 29, 2021, 17:10:40 pm
Because he will be long gone before that time .
That’s why we will get money for him .


Maybe but if he does leave now I can’t see it being anything substantial, a minimal fee with quite a few add ons would be my guess.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 29, 2021, 18:57:19 pm
I don’t think he’s going to replace Jimmy Tarbuck anytime soon if you catch my drift.
He was asking me for £4m at the time.

Were you trying to sign a striker for us?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on July 29, 2021, 19:23:35 pm
Perhaps the Levy was dry. What were you good old boys doing? drinking whiskey and rye?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 29, 2021, 21:32:49 pm
You're quite a celebrity, not only have you appeared on the front page of the Chron but you've also met Daniel Levy  :)
I’d rather have not appeared in the Chron TBH.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 30, 2021, 06:55:39 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/every-league-two-transfer-so-far-this-summer-whos-signed-who-3293358


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 30, 2021, 06:59:41 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/young-striker-makes-banbury-switch-after-leaving-cobblers-3327191


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 30, 2021, 08:11:26 am
Maybe but if he does leave now I can’t see it being anything substantial, a minimal fee with quite a few add ons would be my guess.
i beg to differ .
Whether anyone gets to know what the fee will be is another matter .
i suspect we will lose one raw talent and get another one . Then smooth off the edges for Fleetwood or Lincoln to benefit next season .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 30, 2021, 08:28:44 am
When is this going to happen?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on July 30, 2021, 08:58:25 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/young-striker-makes-banbury-switch-after-leaving-cobblers-3327191
Before I hit the link I thought blimeyCalebs agent must have lowered his ambitions.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2021, 10:06:20 am
i beg to differ .
Whether anyone gets to know what the fee will be is another matter .
i suspect we will lose one raw talent and get another one . Then smooth off the edges for Fleetwood or Lincoln to benefit next season .
Not quite right but getting warmer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 30, 2021, 10:12:38 am
Were you trying to sign a striker for us?
Sponsorship.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 30, 2021, 11:23:19 am
Sponsorship.

Did he not realise who he was talking to?  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 30, 2021, 12:04:49 pm
When is this going to happen?

Every pre season  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 30, 2021, 12:15:12 pm
Did he not realise who he was talking to?  ;)
The wrong person.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 30, 2021, 12:53:39 pm
Every pre season  ;D


He will be correct eventually


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 30, 2021, 14:57:09 pm
This marquee signing is taking a bit of getting over the line!
Maybe they have lost the pen again.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on July 30, 2021, 15:38:01 pm
The wrong person.

  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2021, 16:11:40 pm
This marquee signing is taking a bit of getting over the line!
Maybe they have lost the pen again.
Good permanent proven strikers (rather than untried youth loans or discarded clubless players) come to those that wait…..

Brett pitman- Bristol rovers…..

They’ll be no pissing about with loans and free transfers this time around.

The club are finally accepting the situation and are about to do the long suffering fans proud.

A change from the normal total lack of ambition and forward planning where our strikers have been concerned.


Credit where credits due and all that

Fair play Kelvin , you’ll get the fans back onside with this new found ambition and change of direction.

The fans wanted a permanent proven quality goalscorer and you’re about to show them that you care for the club and want the best for it going forward

I never doubted you  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 30, 2021, 16:22:35 pm
Good permanent proven strikers (rather than untried youth loans or discarded clubless players) come to those that wait…..

Brett pitman- Bristol rovers…..

They’ll be no pissing about with loans and free transfers this time around.

The club are finally accepting the situation and are about to do the long suffering fans proud.

A change from the normal total lack of ambition and forward planning where our strikers have been concerned.


Credit where credits due and all that

Fair play Kelvin , you’ll get the fans back onside with this new found ambition and change of direction.

The fans wanted a permanent proven quality goalscorer and you’re about to show them that you care for the club and want the best for it going forward

I never doubted you  ;D

A chubby, ageing, slow Brett Pittman would go down like lead balloon in our system. I can never tell if you’re on a windup or not?  ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 30, 2021, 16:24:16 pm
Just wait and see…..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on July 30, 2021, 17:06:53 pm
Think the squad is about finished, so any additions now will be a bonus.
Reckon we’ll be OK.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 30, 2021, 17:15:45 pm
Think the squad is about finished, so any additions now will be a bonus.
Reckon we’ll be OK.

I think we’re probably nearly there but I’m a little concerned that we need another winger. Currently we have Pinnock, Hoskins and Connolly. Surely at least one more is needed to stop those lads from getting fatigued throughout the season? Unless Brady is planning on using Cross fairly regularly there - he has looked decent enough playing wide in pre-season I suppose.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 30, 2021, 17:54:17 pm
Chuckwuemeka looks like he can play on the wing 😃


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on July 30, 2021, 18:03:38 pm
Chuckwuemeka looks like he can play on the wing 😃

In an attacking three as a wide forward yes, but as a winger in our probable 442 system I don’t think so. Don’t think he will get through the work needed in the same way as the three wingers we have will.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on July 30, 2021, 19:38:28 pm
A chubby, ageing, slow Brett Pittman would go down like lead balloon in our system.

True, although he got 11 goals for a godawful Swinedon team in L1.

Would still like us to get an experienced goalscoring centre forward like Akinde to give us another option in the squad. He's surplus to requirements at the Gills and I think he'd still do a decent job in L2 especially with decent service from the wings.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on July 30, 2021, 21:37:05 pm
i think what we have now is largely what we will end up with until January .
There may be a youngster in or out but largely it is what it is .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Legend sammo on July 31, 2021, 06:40:17 am
Surely we need a striker whose going to get 20 goals a season every team that is promoted has one of those


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2021, 07:32:58 am
Surely we need a striker whose going to get 20 goals a season every team that is promoted has one of those

Great idea


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 31, 2021, 08:01:50 am
Surely we need a striker whose going to get 20 goals a season every team that is promoted has one of those

The popular misconception... 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on July 31, 2021, 09:26:01 am
Surely we need a striker whose going to get 20 goals a season every team that is promoted has one of those


Well we didn't two seasons ago. And three of the teams promoted from League Two last year didn't.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 31, 2021, 09:26:42 am
True, although he got 11 goals for a godawful Swinedon team in L1.

Would still like us to get an experienced goalscoring centre forward like Akinde to give us another option in the squad. He's surplus to requirements at the Gills and I think he'd still do a decent job in L2 especially with decent service from the wings.

That’s not a bad shout mate, but looking at their squad they only seem to have Oliver, Akinde and Sithole (should fit in well at Gillingham) as strikers so I wouldn’t have thought the fat one would want to move him on? On a separate note, what is going on at Swindon - they don’t look like they’ve made a single signing and have lost several first teamers - I’m not sure they’re going to be able field a full bench as it stands?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 31, 2021, 09:46:30 am
That’s not a bad shout mate, but looking at their squad they only seem to have Oliver, Akinde and Sithole (should fit in well at Gillingham) as strikers so I wouldn’t have thought the fat one would want to move him on? On a separate note, what is going on at Swindon - they don’t look like they’ve made a single signing and have lost several first teamers - I’m not sure they’re going to be able field a full bench as it stands?

How do you work that out? Swindon have more players than we do!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 31, 2021, 10:07:13 am
How do you work that out? Swindon have more players than we do!

I was looking on Transfermarkt - there’s only 11 players listed but to be fair that’s probably a bit suss as they would struggle to have a training match let alone a friendly!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on July 31, 2021, 10:16:21 am
How do you work that out? Swindon have more players than we do!

BBC Sport website reported that they only had nine senior players contracted as of around ten days ago.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on July 31, 2021, 10:27:38 am
Danny Hylton?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 31, 2021, 11:12:37 am
Danny Hylton?

Would be ideal but doesn’t fit our profile - i.e. free agent and from Scotland. I would imagine that if he was to be made available for loan or permanent transfer plenty of League 1 clubs would be in for him.  If we were to sign him, Shoey’s head would probably explode so for that reason I hope we get him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 31, 2021, 11:12:40 am
Danny Hylton?
Not a bad shout at 32 probably got a couple of seasons left.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on July 31, 2021, 11:13:11 am
Would be ideal but doesn’t fit our profile - i.e. free agent and from Scotland. I would imagine that if he was to be made available for loan or permanent transfer plenty of League 1 clubs would be in for him.  If we were to sign him, Shoey’s head would probably explode so for that reason I hope we get him.
😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2021, 11:30:03 am
I have a feeling that come next week people will be giving plaudits to Kelvin as regards this seasons change in transfer policy and no one will be able to question his on field ambitions for the club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 31, 2021, 11:48:18 am
I have a feeling that come next week people will be giving plaudits to Kelvin as regards this seasons change in transfer policy and no one will be able to question his on field ambitions for the club.

You do know that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit don’t you? Can I ask, why do you only ever seem to post when the transfer window is open?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2021, 12:44:27 pm
You do know that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit don’t you? Can I ask, why do you only ever seem to post when the transfer window is open?
Sarcasm?

No no no

Oh ye of little faith……..

Those moaning that the board are only bothered about land deals and see the club as an inconvenience not worth investing in are about to be proved wrong (albeit long overdue)

Kelvins going to show the fans that he is hellbent on promotion and not just content with treading water.
No one will be able to say he hasn’t invested in the long term future of the playing side this time next week…..

Statement signings on the way……

Well done Kelvin

Speculate to accumulate….

At last  ;) :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Irchy cob on July 31, 2021, 13:00:23 pm
It’s starting to get pretty boring mate and all you’re doing is spamming up the site.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2021, 13:11:21 pm
How do you work that out? Swindon have more players than we do!

😇 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2021, 13:46:09 pm
Great idea

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on July 31, 2021, 16:39:52 pm
How to ruin a forum, lesson 101 by Shoemaker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on July 31, 2021, 17:25:03 pm
Sarcasm?

No no no

Oh ye of little faith……..

Those moaning that the board are only bothered about land deals and see the club as an inconvenience not worth investing in are about to be proved wrong (albeit long overdue)

Kelvins going to show the fans that he is hellbent on promotion and not just content with treading water.
No one will be able to say he hasn’t invested in the long term future of the playing side this time next week…..

Statement signings on the way……

Well done Kelvin

Speculate to accumulate….

At last  ;) :)


Give it up ... you knew the plan all along.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2021, 17:52:28 pm
To all the apathetic who are prepared to settle for mediocrity let’s see whose up front against port vale….. ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on July 31, 2021, 17:58:31 pm
To all the apathetic who are prepared to settle for mediocrity let’s see whose up front against port vale….. ;)

*who's


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2021, 18:01:29 pm
*who's
Ta



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: RowN on July 31, 2021, 18:46:29 pm
Sadly seems to be the case of quite a few on this website, at times. Wonder what the chances are of a 'block' button being added on here, (if not already possible), would help not having to waste my time scrolling through the utter nonsense for a change.

Wonder how many keyboard warriors here, would disappear if they had to provide name & addresses??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2021, 18:48:54 pm
*who's

If you are going to be pedantic it's comma after mediocrity and there should only be three dots for the ellipsis. Capital letters for Port Vale and God knows what that aberration is at the end.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2021, 18:51:11 pm
Wonder how many keyboard warriors here, would disappear if they had to provide name & addresses??

No comma necessary and it's and not &.
I'm trapped please help me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on July 31, 2021, 19:21:35 pm
If you are going to be pedantic it's comma after mediocrity and there should only be three dots for the ellipsis. Capital letters for Port Vale and God knows what that aberration is at the end.
At least you found time to read it.
 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on July 31, 2021, 20:12:28 pm
I guess we could petition the lord with prayer?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on July 31, 2021, 20:45:02 pm
No comma necessary and it's and not &.
I'm trapped please help me.

I think you'll find it was "if they had to provide their name and addresses."

Nice to know the grammar police are out in force again ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 31, 2021, 21:56:22 pm
Are we certain it’s not Hoskins on the radar of Spurs!?

He seems to have been wrapped in cotton wool.

The facts, between 13th - 17th July he was told to isolate for 10 days as per government guidelines… at least 14 days later he continues to be in isolation…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on July 31, 2021, 22:28:47 pm
I think you'll find it was "if they had to provide their name and addresses."

Nice to know the grammar police are out in force again ::)

Serves most of us right but there again Harrow educated Churchill was no grammar genius. I like Larry with his pithy comments.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on July 31, 2021, 22:44:11 pm
Serves most of us right but there again Harrow educated Churchill was no grammar genius. I like Larry with pithy comments.
Apparently it depends on if they are doubles or singles but he is trying to squeeze as many in as possible.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 01, 2021, 08:40:32 am
Are we certain it’s not Hoskins on the radar of Spurs!?

He seems to have been wrapped in cotton wool.

The facts, between 13th - 17th July he was told to isolate for 10 days as per government guidelines… at least 14 days later he continues to be in isolation…

Unless he's not actually having to self isolate because of a close contact?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 09:33:00 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/harriman-the-latest-to-isolate-as-hoskins-and-sowerby-remain-out-but-duos-return-is-a-relief-for-brady-3330351


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 10:01:30 am
Unless he's not actually having to self isolate because of a close contact?

It’s still only 10 days isolation if you test positive?

Unless he’s caught it twice in two weeks!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 01, 2021, 10:36:44 am
It’s still only 10 days isolation if you test positive?

Unless he’s caught it twice in two weeks!?

Or he is physically not recovering as quickly as hoped?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 01, 2021, 10:57:03 am
Because of their recent transfer embargo and limit on their squad size Hull are looking to offload players. They want to sell Flores and hope to tempt us into a cash offer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 01, 2021, 11:26:55 am
Gets around a bit, doesnt he?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-ex-northampton-town-man-set-for-halifax-switch/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 01, 2021, 11:27:36 am
Recent tweet from journalist Alan Nixon:

“Hull. Trying to push out Jordan Flores. Already on loan at Northampton but want full time exit to free a space in squad under their EFL regulations and restrictions.”

I don’t really understand this? I thought that if a player was out on loan then they did not count towards a club’s registration limit?

If that is the case however can we see Flores staying here on a permanent deal? I’d imagine we are paying something like half of his wages currently. Being forced to suddenly pay more doesn’t seem all that appealing!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 11:58:09 am
Or he is physically not recovering as quickly as hoped?

It could be the case that he is out with illness and not isolating. Although JB continues to say the reason for his absence is isolation.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 12:00:06 pm
It’s still only 10 days isolation if you test positive?

Unless he’s caught it twice in two weeks!?

Unless he actually has Covid-19 with all symptoms and full disabilitation, it's not just the 'game' of testing positive, isolating for ten days then everything is alright!!  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on August 01, 2021, 12:02:50 pm
It could be the case that he is out with illness and not isolating. Although JB continues to say the reason for his absence is isolation.
It'll be a cunning new angle at teaching super Sam how to isolate himself generally so that he can find more space for himself on the field.
He's gonna be devastatingly good for us this year.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 01, 2021, 12:22:53 pm
Unless he actually has Covid-19 with all symptoms and full disabilitation, it's not just the 'game' of testing positive, isolating for ten days then everything is alright!!  ::)
Disabilitation ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 01, 2021, 12:41:26 pm
Unless he actually has Covid-19 with all symptoms and full disabilitation, it's not just the 'game' of testing positive, isolating for ten days then everything is alright!!  ::)

I was told 4 players actually had Covid. The players weren't named but quite easy to work out. Pollock, McWilliams, Rose and Hoskins. It sounds like Harriman can now be added to that list.       


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 13:06:21 pm
Unless he actually has Covid-19 with all symptoms and full disabilitation, it's not just the 'game' of testing positive, isolating for ten days then everything is alright!!  ::)

As above, it’s no longer transmittable so he’s just ill, not isolating.
   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 01, 2021, 13:09:09 pm
Mysterious, according to wiki Sam's 28 not 111.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 15:18:17 pm
Disabilitation ?

It's not a word is it?  ;D  It should be though... ;) 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 15:35:49 pm
It's not a word is it?  ;D  It should be though... ;) 8)
It is. From the internet so it must be true.
The earliest match recorded is from the legal case of Finlason contra her Tennents (July 27, 1626), reprinted in The Decisions of the Lords of Council and Session, in Most Cases of Importance Debated and brought before Them; From July 1621 to July 1642 (1690): “ as vacant in his Hands, by the Disabilitation of John Stuart,” & “ Alledged, that the said Act of Disabilitation and Annexation of the said Priory,” There are other examples in official documents as well. I reckon anyone who ever doubts you should get a ban of at least a week?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 16:14:54 pm
It is. From the internet so it must be true.
The earliest match recorded is from the legal case of Finlason contra her Tennents (July 27, 1626), reprinted in The Decisions of the Lords of Council and Session, in Most Cases of Importance Debated and brought before Them; From July 1621 to July 1642 (1690): “ as vacant in his Hands, by the Disabilitation of John Stuart,” & “ Alledged, that the said Act of Disabilitation and Annexation of the said Priory,” There are other examples in official documents as well. I reckon anyone who ever doubts you should get a ban of at least a week?

 8) :-*


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 17:59:42 pm
Mysterious, according to wiki Sam's 28 not 111.

To close the matter out, I can confirm he is not isolating. Not sure why the manager is saying he is.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 01, 2021, 18:46:58 pm
To close the matter out, I can confirm he is not isolating. Not sure why the manager is saying he is.
The club telling lies, surely not.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on August 01, 2021, 19:06:06 pm
Maybe he can't find his boots since he put them away for the summer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 01, 2021, 19:07:28 pm
I think we have received a massive offer, too good to turn down, and we are not risking him getting injured before we can receive payment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 01, 2021, 19:29:04 pm
I think we have received a massive offer, too good to turn down, and we are not risking him getting injured before we can receive payment.
Possibly, but I dont think that it will be massive though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 01, 2021, 20:43:32 pm
As above, it’s no longer transmittable so he’s just ill, not isolating.
  

Which part of Covid isn't transmittable?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 01, 2021, 20:59:40 pm
Which part of Covid isn't transmittable?
After 10 days you can’t pass it on, hence the 10 day isolation.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on August 01, 2021, 21:18:51 pm
After 10 days you can’t pass it on, hence the 10 day isolation.

It can be longer than 10 days.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 01, 2021, 21:23:46 pm
Think the CDC's opinion is that there arent any cases of transmission 10 days after symptoms apart from cases which require hospitilisation where it can be contagious for longer. He could of course have symptoms that make him non match fit past that point.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 21:53:46 pm
Think the CDC's opinion is that there arent any cases of transmission 10 days after symptoms apart from cases which require hospitilisation where it can be contagious for longer. He could of course have symptoms that make him non match fit past that point.

I think we’ve concluded it to be honest. He has possibly been feeling under the weather after having to isolate. He no longer has to isolate and hasn’t had to for possibly up to a week.

The question remains why the club still say he is isolating, when they should be saying he’s not match fit or similar.

He’s not been at home this weekend (ie. not isolating) and is down in London as per his Instagram, so that kind of proves we’ve been fed some dud info!

Unless of course he has driven down there to test his eyesight.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 01, 2021, 22:00:04 pm
It can be longer than 10 days.

But the requirement isn’t longer than 10 days. Unless of course the club has gone against the government guidance and is asking players to isolate for longer.

I assume they haven’t as McWilliams went into isolation at the same time as Hoskins, post West Ham and pre Notts Forest. McWilliams was back with the group last Wednesday (army exercise day) and possibly earlier!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 02, 2021, 07:14:01 am
Back to the chocolate factory?
(https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/gene-wilder-willy-wonka-dead-3.jpg)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2021, 07:16:44 am
Recent tweet from journalist Alan Nixon:

“Hull. Trying to push out Jordan Flores. Already on loan at Northampton but want full time exit to free a space in squad under their EFL regulations and restrictions.”

I don’t really understand this? I thought that if a player was out on loan then they did not count towards a club’s registration limit?

If that is the case however can we see Flores staying here on a permanent deal? I’d imagine we are paying something like half of his wages currently. Being forced to suddenly pay more doesn’t seem all that appealing!
Up until last year I’d have said there was zero chance of us paying the wages required to sign decent players
Nowadays Kelvin has got his team in place and they have obviously identified Flores early doors as a player that we need.
It’d be a bit embarrassing if they had to let him go.

I can’t see that scenario happening under the new kelvin regime.
I think we will all be pleasantly surprised by our starting eleven for the port vale match with the shortage of goals finally being addressed in some style ;)

This isn’t the same old same old, this is the cobblers finally having an identity and direction going forwards (Kelvin has already stated this)with a top class back room/recruitment team…

Does anyone really think kelvins paid the money to put the infrastructure in place to then fail to implement change and make exciting signings to put bums on seats?
It’d be like buying a posh car but then not affording the petrol…

One thing Kelvin isn’t is an idiot.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 02, 2021, 08:01:51 am
Up until last year I’d have said there was zero chance of us paying the wages required to sign decent players
Nowadays Kelvin has got his team in place and they have obviously identified Flores early doors as a player that we need.
It’d be a bit embarrassing if they had to let him go.

I can’t see that scenario happening under the new kelvin regime.
I think we will all be pleasantly surprised by our starting eleven for the port vale match with the shortage of goals finally being addressed in some style ;)

This isn’t the same old same old, this is the cobblers finally having an identity and direction going forwards (Kelvin has already stated this)with a top class back room/recruitment team…

Does anyone really think kelvins paid the money to put the infrastructure in place to then fail to implement change and make exciting signings to put bums on seats?
It’d be like buying a posh car but then not affording the petrol…

One thing Kelvin isn’t is an idiot.


Don't you ever get bored typing the same thing over and over again?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2021, 08:08:08 am
I think il be proved correct come kick off against port vale.
Why is it everyone seems to knock Kelvin even when he’s changing things for the better??
I believe Kelvin when he says the club is heading on a new direction , with a proper transfer policy and renewed ambition to get straight back up to league one.

It’s as if loads of posters on here refuse to accept this or at worst think it’s a load of spin and rubbish and nothing will change.



Let’s see come Saturday…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 02, 2021, 08:12:18 am
I think il be proved correct come kick off against port vale.
Why is it everyone seems to knock Kelvin even when he’s changing things for the better??
I believe Kelvin when he says the club is heading on a new direction , with a proper transfer policy and renewed ambition to get straight back up to league one.

It’s as if loads of posters on here refuse to accept this or at worst think it’s a load of spin and rubbish and nothing will change.


Let’s see come Saturday…
Correct about what specifically?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 02, 2021, 08:12:32 am
I think il be proved correct come kick off against port vale.
Why is it everyone seems to knock Kelvin even when he’s changing things for the better??
I believe Kelvin when he says the club is heading on a new direction , with a proper transfer policy and renewed ambition to get straight back up to league one.

It’s as if loads of posters on here refuse to accept this or at worst think it’s a load of spin and rubbish and nothing will change.



Let’s see come Saturday…

It depends if you class a shed load of average players from the Scottish leagues as a proper transfer policy  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2021, 08:59:54 am
Correct about what specifically?
A proper striker or two has been needed for over eighteen months now.
The club knows it, Carr knows it and one will be in before port vale.
No need to waste the first month of the season scratting about to get an unproven loan signing in before the end of the loan window having fallen way behind the league front runners whilst piss arsing around.

Not this season…

Exciting times ahead…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 02, 2021, 09:06:35 am
So why have we left it to the week before the season starts to make this major signing? He will not have featured in our pre season to get used to his new team mates, or is he so good he will fit straight in?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 02, 2021, 09:16:05 am
A proper striker or two has been needed for over eighteen months now.
The club knows it, Carr knows it and one will be in before port vale.
No need to waste the first month of the season scratting about to get an unproven loan signing in before the end of the loan window having fallen way behind the league front runners whilst **** arsing around.

Not this season…

Exciting times ahead…
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I sense a rod of sarcasm through the middle of that!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 09:31:16 am
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I sense a rod of sarcasm through the middle of that!

You are not wrong he has been doing it for years - poor old Shoey sows misinformation without a shred of fact/evidence.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 09:34:07 am
It depends if you class a shed load of average players from the Scottish leagues as a proper transfer policy  ;D ;D

You obviously do hence the totally unjust opinion of MacGowan


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 02, 2021, 10:03:44 am
Up until last year I’d have said there was zero chance of us paying the wages required to sign decent players
Nowadays Kelvin has got his team in place and they have obviously identified Flores early doors as a player that we need.
It’d be a bit embarrassing if they had to let him go.

I can’t see that scenario happening under the new kelvin regime.
I think we will all be pleasantly surprised by our starting eleven for the port vale match with the shortage of goals finally being addressed in some style ;)

This isn’t the same old same old, this is the cobblers finally having an identity and direction going forwards (Kelvin has already stated this)with a top class back room/recruitment team…

Does anyone really think kelvins paid the money to put the infrastructure in place to then fail to implement change and make exciting signings to put bums on seats?
It’d be like buying a posh car but then not affording the petrol…

One thing Kelvin isn’t is an idiot.


All good news and best of all, now the new regime is in place you can end your self imposed boycott and go to the game on Saturday. ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 02, 2021, 10:06:31 am
A proper striker or two has been needed for over eighteen months now.
The club knows it, Carr knows it and one will be in before port vale.
No need to waste the first month of the season scratting about to get an unproven loan signing in before the end of the loan window having fallen way behind the league front runners whilst **** arsing around.

Not this season…

Exciting times ahead…

A striker scores as many as him as his team provides for him. Do you think Paul Mullin scores even half as many as he did last season without Wes Hoolahan or Joe Ironside’s flick ons? Look at his goal return from every other season he has played before you answer that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 02, 2021, 10:15:08 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/warburton-heads-back-into-non-league-after-cobblers-release-3331041


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2021, 11:03:41 am
A striker scores as many as him as his team provides for him. Do you think Paul Mullin scores even half as many as he did last season without Wes Hoolahan or Joe Ironside’s flick ons? Look at his goal return from every other season he has played before you answer that.
My opinion is that we will have a good supply from the flanks this season and with a proven quality striker we will have every chance of going up.
Stay as we are and we will be bottom half at best.

Luckily the additions we’ve needed so long are on the way and this time it won’t be the poor quality loans that sealed our fate last season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 02, 2021, 11:16:17 am
One things certain. The board is busier when we lose than win. Some people revel in our failure.
We’ll soon see who will be keeping quiet in a few weeks.
There are that many new faces it’s very difficult to know which way we are going to go but fingers crossed the football is entertaining. If it’s winning football any talk of ‘20 goal strikers’ and ‘redevelopment’ will soon drop off the front page.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 11:24:47 am
A striker scores as many as him as his team provides for him. Do you think Paul Mullin scores even half as many as he did last season without Wes Hoolahan or Joe Ironside’s flick ons? Look at his goal return from every other season he has played before you answer that.

Get your point but the striker has to score from these chances; there was some evidence last season that the strikers when presented with a scoring opportunity generally messed up. Both Larry Grayson and McLeish managed quite a few goals without a great deal of support?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 02, 2021, 12:02:19 pm
i see the complete trash written about Caleb and Spurs has died a death .
If i was the player , i would be embarrassed by such nonsense spread by his agent / associate .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 12:11:04 pm
Don't you ever get bored typing the same thing over and over again?

 ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 02, 2021, 12:35:04 pm
i see the complete trash written about Caleb and Spurs has died a death .
If i was the player , i would be embarrassed by such nonsense spread by his agent / associate .

I did hear that Barcelona are considering him if Messi doesnt sign his new contract.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 02, 2021, 12:37:24 pm
ntfclad...any transfers (in or out) expected to happen before Saturday?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3355 on August 02, 2021, 12:41:06 pm
Looks like one announced at 2pm


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 02, 2021, 12:46:44 pm
My opinion is that we will have a good supply from the flanks this season and with a proven quality striker we will have every chance of going up.
Stay as we are and we will be bottom half at best.

Luckily the additions we’ve needed so long are on the way and this time it won’t be the poor quality loans that sealed our fate last season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58053653

Anyone seen him around Sixfields?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on August 02, 2021, 12:48:48 pm
Looks like one announced at 2pm
Yes
https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/1422176605770854405?s=20


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on August 02, 2021, 12:50:32 pm
Yes
https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/1422176605770854405?s=20
i hope its the forward troublemaker was on about.....


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 02, 2021, 13:00:29 pm
Northampton Town are pleased to announce the signing of striker Kion Etete on a season-long loan from Premier League side
@SpursOfficial
 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 02, 2021, 13:01:20 pm
i see the complete trash written about Caleb and Spurs has died a death .
If i was the player , i would be embarrassed by such nonsense spread by his agent / associate .


Has it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 02, 2021, 13:02:39 pm
Northampton Town are pleased to announce the signing of striker Kion Etete on a season-long loan from Premier League side
@SpursOfficial
 
Welp, egg on my face. Bye bye Caleb.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 02, 2021, 13:03:41 pm
From James Heneghan....
Quote
Signing number 12 is in the building as Cobblers win the race for young Spurs striker (no, not that one). Despite the rumours, understand this has no bearing on Chukwuemeka's future. We'll see. Exciting arrival nonetheless. Details here


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on August 02, 2021, 13:03:57 pm
I reckon he joins his brother at Villa and the Young fella from Spurs joins on loan. Just a random guess
Part one of my guess complete


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 02, 2021, 13:06:36 pm
From James Heneghan....
He doesn't seem 100% convinced on that, does he? On the plus side, Spurs fans rate Etete.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 02, 2021, 13:10:14 pm
Part one of my guess complete

I personally really cannot see Spurs sending us one of their prospects with no reward in return, just so this kid can get smashed about all season by your average Lge 2 centre back.

Expect the Caleb announcement imminently?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 02, 2021, 13:10:27 pm
Still to be followed by Shoemakers major signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 02, 2021, 13:10:55 pm
Is this the first slice in some "sh1t sandwich" comms? Sign a striker (yay!), lose Caleb (Boo!), something else (Yay?)

No idea what the something else will be, unless there's truth in the Flores rumours and I've not seen enough of him to say whether getting him on a permanent basis would qualify as good news.

Or maybe it will be the lesser used "sh1t on toast" comms technique.  :P  


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 02, 2021, 13:13:10 pm
Excited about this signing, mainly because it shifts Benny down the pecking order!

Seems a good prospect on paper.

Nothing to do with Caleb if appears… maybe Hoskins replacement!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 13:20:41 pm
Still to be followed by Shoemakers major signing.

Made me chuckle ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 02, 2021, 13:21:38 pm
Excited about this signing, mainly because it shifts Benny down the pecking order!

Seems a good prospect on paper.

Nothing to do with Caleb if appears… maybe Hoskins replacement!?
Completely agree good signing.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 02, 2021, 13:24:44 pm
Question is, will he play with Kabamba? Surely similar type of players from what I've seen so far, unless we're going to try and play Kabamba on the shoulder. Unfortunately for some, BAS (or Rose) is surely the more natural partner?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on August 02, 2021, 13:25:19 pm
Still to be followed by Shoemakers major signing.
This is a major signing as this lad is too good for league two.
I was told we wanted a permanent transfer but unfortunately it’s only a loan which is not great news going forwards….
We have also been looking at a couple of other strikers who are older but proven and there may yet be another to come…
I’d imagine this would be down to chuks leaving but I have no idea of what’s going on with him.
I was told last week that villa are likely to make an improved offer…
We shall see…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 13:33:53 pm
Excited about this signing, mainly because it shifts Benny down the pecking order!

Seems a good prospect on paper.

Nothing to do with Caleb if appears… maybe Hoskins replacement!?

Would not be surprised to see Benny start on Saturday. Find it a bit strange to say a signing is good when it (may) shove Benny down the pecking order?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 02, 2021, 13:35:37 pm
Question is, will he play with Kabamba? Surely similar type of players from what I've seen so far, unless we're going to try and play Kabamba on the shoulder. Unfortunately for some, BAS (or Rose) is surely the more natural partner?

I think it will be a case of seeing what works, anyone out of form or not scoring will soon be replaced with one of the other options.
I actually quite like the idea of a 6’6’’ and a 6’3’’ forward line, with some good service they would surely cause problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 02, 2021, 13:42:07 pm
Would not be surprised to see Benny start on Saturday. Find it a bit strange to say a signing is good when it (may) shove Benny down the pecking order?

I would also not be surprised to see Benny start on Saturday as all other striking options are either isolating or not match fit. I would also not be surprised if Saturday is his first and last start of the season!

Not really strange at all really. Benny isn’t very good so the further away from the starting line up he is the better really.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 02, 2021, 13:56:12 pm
first part of the prediction correct - second part of the prediction to follow which does not see caleb off to Spurs .
He may not physically be going very far at all initially after all.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 02, 2021, 13:58:47 pm
first part of the prediction correct - second part of the prediction to follow which does not see caleb off to Spurs .
He may not physically be going very far at all initially after all.

Well, if Grealish goes to Man City as rumoured, Villa will have £100m burning a hole in their pocket...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 02, 2021, 14:22:48 pm
This is a major signing as this lad is too good for league two.
I was told we wanted a permanent transfer but unfortunately it’s only a loan which is not great news going forwards….
We have also been looking at a couple of other strikers who are older but proven and there may yet be another to come…
I’d imagine this would be down to chuks leaving but I have no idea of what’s going on with him.
I was told last week that villa are likely to make an improved offer…
We shall see…

The lad from Spurs signed a new contract with them (until 2023) before signing on loan for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 02, 2021, 14:33:33 pm
first part of the prediction correct - second part of the prediction to follow which does not see caleb off to Spurs .
He may not physically be going very far at all initially after all.

Caleb to be signed by Villa and then loaned back to us??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 02, 2021, 14:41:22 pm
first part of the prediction correct - second part of the prediction to follow which does not see caleb off to Spurs .
He may not physically be going very far at all initially after all.

He’s not off to Blackpool with the rest of last years squad that didn’t go there is he!?  :afro



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 02, 2021, 14:58:35 pm
Great loan signing that...in theory.
Definitely a contender (by the look of it - under contract at Spurs) to become a big star in the future. Could look back in years to come as an ex-Cobbler to be in the big time.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Grove on August 02, 2021, 14:58:48 pm
Caleb told me last week he going nowhere and wants to stay and get promotion


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on August 02, 2021, 16:03:30 pm
Like this signing.

Signing out and and wingers

Commanding centre backs

Physical front line

Exactly what you need in this league. Not saying we are going to set the division on fire, but we should cause teams a lot of problems.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: RowN on August 02, 2021, 16:06:41 pm
I assume Etete is probably down to Calderwoods connections rather than anything else?? Shame he couldn’t get Harry Kane too??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on August 02, 2021, 16:26:10 pm
Lets start getting behind the team, with us likely to push for a play-off place!



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 02, 2021, 16:41:29 pm
Caleb to be signed by Villa and then loaned back to us??
could be onto something there kid 😊


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 17:02:37 pm
Lets start getting behind the team, with us likely to push for a play-off place!


Agreed - dread to think if we disappoint on Saturday!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 02, 2021, 17:47:46 pm
could be onto something there kid 😊
I didnt post anything.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on August 02, 2021, 17:56:35 pm
could be onto something there kid 😊

Come on dude. It’s obvious you have NO inside info, but you keep trying to pass yourself off as though you do.

Why though?? Even when some element of one of your vague, half baked ‘guesses’ comes through, the only credit you get is posted by you. Nobody cares, nobody is impressed. It’s sad to watch. Give it up mate. Please.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 02, 2021, 19:42:52 pm
Come on dude. It’s obvious you have NO inside info, but you keep trying to pass yourself off as though you do.

Why though?? Even when some element of one of your vague, half baked ‘guesses’ comes through, the only credit you get is posted by you. Nobody cares, nobody is impressed. It’s sad to watch. Give it up mate. Please.

In fairness to Boot and shoe this is a transfer rumours thread and he has supplied rumours and also some correct information.

If we stop everyone from giving information, right or wrong, there will be no point having a forum at all.

Keep going B&S, ntfclad, even Shoemaker  >:D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 02, 2021, 20:42:57 pm
Come on dude. It’s obvious you have NO inside info, but you keep trying to pass yourself off as though you do.

Why though?? Even when some element of one of your vague, half baked ‘guesses’ comes through, the only credit you get is posted by you. Nobody cares, nobody is impressed. It’s sad to watch. Give it up mate. Please.
ha ha .. big guy , keyboard warriors are out . Isn't it past your bed time ?
i’m not a dude and i’m not your mate either .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 02, 2021, 20:45:52 pm
In fairness to Boot and shoe this is a transfer rumours thread and he has supplied rumours and also some correct information.

If we stop everyone from giving information, right or wrong, there will be no point having a forum at all.

Keep going B&S, ntfclad, even Shoemaker  >:D

Interesting Post - hard to disagree with. There has been several calls for a panic or even a block tab which goes very much against your appeal for information accurate or not. What do you think? Are they snow flakes or wannabee Admin prefects?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on August 03, 2021, 01:16:36 am
My Notts County suffering mate is gutted we have Kion.

That's good enough for me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 03, 2021, 06:42:44 am
i think the latest addition will conclude our inbound transfer activity for this window.
it looks like we have the best balanced squad in a long time and getting everyone together so early pays dividends .
Real credit should go to the recruitment committee .
The budget has clearly been restrictive and it would be interesting to know what people would see as success this season .
i think anything above 10th is over performing, considering resources available .
The problem is , people are expecting top 6 and our spending power is nowhere near that .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 03, 2021, 07:16:15 am
End of last season my answer would have been I'd be happy with a couple of seasons to rebuild, get a mix of experience and youth and push for promotion in 2-3 seasons with a squad that we can keep together and build on in League 1 and stop the yo-yo ing, as long as you can see effort, desire and some good football thrown in along the way.
Now we're a week before the season, I expect them to go and beat all of Wilder's league 2 records and beat the total score by at least 1 point to finish on 100+ points  ;D

Realistically, I agree top 10, but a push for top 7. When you look at the table there aren't really any names that stand out (other than maybe Bradford but they've been down here for a while now) so if this squad can gel quickly no reason why top 7 isn't possible.
I do think goals will remain a problem and need the midfield to contribute. I also think this management team is the best we've had for a while. Was impressed with Brady at the end of the season, Calderwood's experience, Rico's knowledge of this league and all 3 seem the sort to not get too exited if we are doing well, but not panic if we have a bad run.

Same every year but looking forward to this season and cant wait to get back in the stadium, although away for the first few games  :'(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 03, 2021, 07:20:05 am
i think the latest addition will conclude our inbound transfer activity for this window.
it looks like we have the best balanced squad in a long time and getting everyone together so early pays dividends .
Real credit should go to the recruitment committee .
The budget has clearly been restrictive and it would be interesting to know what people would see as success this season .
i think anything above 10th is over performing, considering resources available .
The problem is , people are expecting top 6 and our spending power is nowhere near that .

After the awful turgid dull football served up under KC last season, I just want to see us play some good attacking football tbh. If we also have a play off / promotion push then great, if not then so be it.

Just hope the supporters stick with JB should we go through a sticky patch, as this appointment should be seen as a long term project.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 03, 2021, 07:52:49 am
The budget has clearly been restrictive and it would be interesting to know what people would see as success this season .
i think anything above 10th is over performing, considering resources available .
The problem is , people are expecting top 6 and our spending power is nowhere near that .

My assessment respective teams budgets would be different, I see a group of around half to two thirds of teams with probably very close budgets with some of the smaller teams at the bottom a bit adrift of that. I think it will all come down to recruitment, which at present I’m still on the fence about, I don’t see a reason if recruitment is good this year why we couldn’t finish in the top 6 but just as easily if it’s poor we could struggle at the bottom half of the table. So for me success is getting in the top 7.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 03, 2021, 07:56:32 am
Feel a little bit sorry for Brady, from what I’m hearing it’s one of the lowest budgets we’ve had in this division for some time.
Still looking forward to the first game.

UTC.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 03, 2021, 08:13:36 am
It's a bit of a tough one to call. We haven't signed anyone that makes people sit up and take notice, a la the Gabbiadini/Forrester era, but a couple of marquee signings don't bring you success, which is more likely to come from a carefully assembled squad that complement each other. I'm quietly confident that Brady and Co have done a decent job on that front.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating though, and we should have a better idea about that come Saturday evening. At the very least I think we've got a side that can give anyone else in this league a good run for their money and play some exciting, attacking football in doing so. If we can get a measure of consistency while doing that then I think a tilt at the playoffs could be on the cards.

Either way, bring it on!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 03, 2021, 08:21:11 am
it’s good to see some sensible expectation on here with talk of building for the future and playing attractive football .
Hopefully people remember that come Christmas if we are mid table .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on August 03, 2021, 08:24:40 am
Everybody keeps going on about us signing Marquis again. This obsession with signing ex-players is unhealthy, virgin blood isn't for vampires alone.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 03, 2021, 08:31:03 am
Everybody keeps going on about us signing Marquis again. This obsession with signing ex-players is unhealthy, virgin blood isn't for vampires alone.


 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on August 03, 2021, 08:31:32 am
Everybody keeps going on about us signing Marquis again. This obsession with signing ex-players is unhealthy, virgin blood isn't for vampires alone.
A bit tenuous


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 03, 2021, 08:39:47 am
It's a bit of a tough one to call. We haven't signed anyone that makes people sit up and take notice, a la the Gabbiadini/Forrester era


But who has though? I see a few shrewd signings here or there but no marquee signings at the level of a Gabbiadini. Unless you’ve got a chairman splashing some cash thinking he’s getting a big payout down the line I think that level of signing is a bit of a blast from the past.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 03, 2021, 08:44:01 am
Budget doesn’t necessarily correlate with league position, otherwise the table would be decided at the start of the season.
We’ve made a big thing of our strong management team and support structure (on paper), so no reason why we have anything to fear in the bottom tier.
Not saying we should run away with the title but a bit early to be making any excuses up front.
I’m sure Brady wouldn’t have taken the job, especially after asking for certain assurances. I doubt the bar is set as low as purely maintaining our league status.
There could be a comparison of what we have spent on our back room team compared to squad verses other clubs but we’ll never know that.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on August 03, 2021, 09:43:04 am
I think a top 10 finish with a more expansive style and some decent development of our young players (McWilliams, Pollock, Horsfall) would represent good progress after several years of sterile Curle-ball. Top 7 would be slightly above expectations and top 3 would be a truly excellent achievement.

I agree with Boot and Shoe: this looks like a balanced squad with cover and competition in key areas and the recruitment of the kind of wide players which we lacked under Curle.

Kion Etete looks like a good prospect. It will be interesting to see who emerges as our first choice front two and how the dynamics work. Despite his 6'6 frame, I think he'll prove to be more of a skilful-receive-the-ball and lay-it-off/run in behind type striker rather than an old-school Oliver-style battering ram targetman.

I think Brady will expect the front two to be quite mobile, quick and fluid. When this clicks  (c.f. the Birmingham friendly) we will be good to watch. However, this style is very much dependent on creative input from the midfield and I think it will take time for the likes of Flores and Pinnock to build an understanding with the front two.

We will need to be patient but I'm quietly confident that at the very least we will be more entertained than we have been for a few years.



   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 03, 2021, 09:48:48 am
I think a top 10 finish with a more expansive style and some decent development of our young players (McWilliams, Pollock, Horsfall) would represent good progress after several years of sterile Curle-ball. Top 7 would be slightly above expectations and top 3 would be a truly excellent achievement.

I agree with Boot and Shoe: this looks like a balanced squad with cover and competition in key areas and the recruitment of the kind of wide players which we lacked under Curle.

Kion Etete looks like a good prospect. It will be interesting to see who emerges as our first choice front two and how the dynamics work. Despite his 6'6 frame, I think he'll prove to be more of a skilful-receive-the-ball and lay-it-off/run in behind type striker rather than an old-school Oliver-style battering ram targetman.

I think Brady will expect the front two to be quite mobile, quick and fluid. When this clicks  (c.f. the Birmingham friendly) we will be good to watch. However, this style is very much dependent on creative input from the midfield and I think it will take time for the likes of Flores and Pinnock to build an understanding with the front two.

We will need to be patient but I'm quietly confident that at the very least we will be more entertained than we have been for a few years.


Winning is the elixir of entertainment  at least for us


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 03, 2021, 09:53:26 am
I think a top 10 finish with a more expansive style and some decent development of our young players (McWilliams, Pollock, Horsfall) would represent good progress after several years of sterile Curle-ball. Top 7 would be slightly above expectations and top 3 would be a truly excellent achievement.

I agree with Boot and Shoe: this looks like a balanced squad with cover and competition in key areas and the recruitment of the kind of wide players which we lacked under Curle.

Kion Etete looks like a good prospect. It will be interesting to see who emerges as our first choice front two and how the dynamics work. Despite his 6'6 frame, I think he'll prove to be more of a skilful-receive-the-ball and lay-it-off/run in behind type striker rather than an old-school Oliver-style battering ram targetman.

I think Brady will expect the front two to be quite mobile, quick and fluid. When this clicks  (c.f. the Birmingham friendly) we will be good to watch. However, this style is very much dependent on creative input from the midfield and I think it will take time for the likes of Flores and Pinnock to build an understanding with the front two.

We will need to be patient but I'm quietly confident that at the very least we will be more entertained than we have been for a few years.



   
good post and i agree with all that you say here .
I think Kabamba will start as the first choice front player and we will play 3 central midfield players in a 4 3 2 1 formation .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 03, 2021, 11:07:58 am
good post and i agree with all that you say here .
I think Kabamba will start as the first choice front player and we will play 3 central midfield players in a 4 3 2 1 formation .
I thought Brady was a 4-4-2 man with two strikers?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 03, 2021, 13:20:42 pm
I thought Brady was a 4-4-2 man with two strikers?

You're right, he is.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 03, 2021, 14:07:16 pm
I thought Brady was a 4-4-2 man with two strikers?
We will see .
We haven’t played a game that means anything this season with his choice of players .
4 at the back , yes but it depends on the opposition i would say .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on August 03, 2021, 15:23:32 pm
In fairness to Boot and shoe this is a transfer rumours thread and he has supplied rumours and also some correct information.

If we stop everyone from giving information, right or wrong, there will be no point having a forum at all.

Keep going B&S, ntfclad, even Shoemaker  >:D

No problems with rumours or pure speculation. They are welcome.

Fair play to NTFC Lad, a genuinely reliable source. Shoey is just doing his thing, but never pretends to be informed / something he isn’t.

But this other dude? And he called me a warrior when all I’ve done is try to help him. If you had a bogey hanging from your nose, would you rather somebody told you so that you gained some self awareness and knew what everyone else sees,  or would you rather they said nothing and left it hanging there making you look silly?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LovelyMilkyMilky on August 03, 2021, 15:34:34 pm
Feel a little bit sorry for Brady, from what I’m hearing it’s one of the lowest budgets we’ve had in this division for some time.
Still looking forward to the first game.

UTC.

Where did you hear that? A reliable source?

I think the general discourse on here tells you that we are all pretty unsure about this team. Lots of unproven players, lot of talk of potential, a bit of pre-season optimism.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on August 03, 2021, 15:49:08 pm
I think it’ll give me a further insight into the standard of the SPL compared to the 4th Division


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 03, 2021, 17:03:01 pm
Where did you hear that? A reliable source?

I think the general discourse on here tells you that we are all pretty unsure about this team. Lots of unproven players, lot of talk of potential, a bit of pre-season optimism.
A reliable source, but that was compared to others seasons Cobblers budgets not the rest of the league.
Salford are trying to spend their way out.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 03, 2021, 20:41:13 pm
No problems with rumours or pure speculation. They are welcome.

Fair play to NTFC Lad, a genuinely reliable source. Shoey is just doing his thing, but never pretends to be informed / something he isn’t.

But this other dude? And he called me a warrior when all I’ve done is try to help him. If you had a bogey hanging from your nose, would you rather somebody told you so that you gained some self awareness and knew what everyone else sees,  or would you rather they said nothing and left it hanging there making you look silly?
for the second time , i’m not a dude .
I would be interested to learn what part of the American ghetto you are from though and what street gangster life is like .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 04, 2021, 11:46:15 am
It seems that Mark Marshall is on trial at Crawley.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 04, 2021, 12:05:22 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-reflects-on-cobblers-summer-transfer-business-3333701


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 04, 2021, 15:23:55 pm
Not sure if this has been posted already but Billy Waters and Matty Warburton have both signed for Halifax


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 04, 2021, 19:02:29 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58080265

Another ex-Cobbler on the move.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 04, 2021, 19:07:50 pm
Just looking at the first team squad on the NTFC website. If I were Maxted, I would be a bit peeved;

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 04, 2021, 19:39:05 pm
Just looking at the first team squad on the NTFC website. If I were Maxted, I would be a bit peeved;

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/

Yes  ;D been totally missed off, with youth teamer Charlie Woods taking his place  ;D Also no squad numbers next to the new players names.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: itsme on August 04, 2021, 19:50:11 pm
Yes  ;D been totally missed off, with youth teamer Charlie Woods taking his place  ;D Also no squad numbers next to the new players names.

Also Flores isn't on there at all


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on August 04, 2021, 19:54:24 pm
Just looking at the first team squad on the NTFC website. If I were Maxted, I would be a bit peeved;

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/

Maybe they are waiting for the xxxl keeper shirts to arrive in stock before doing the photo?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: southofthecounty on August 04, 2021, 20:45:19 pm
Maybe they are waiting for the xxxl keeper shirts to arrive in stock before doing the photo?
How rude! Accurate, but rude.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on August 05, 2021, 08:44:53 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58080265

Another ex-Cobbler on the move.

I was surprised we let him go tbh, he had one of two iffy games at CB but looked like he had all the physical attributes to develop into a half decent player.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on August 05, 2021, 13:44:15 pm
Just looking at the first team squad on the NTFC website. If I were Maxted, I would be a bit peeved;

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/

No way am I getting Koiki's name on the back of a shirt - it would cost a fortune
plus you would need an 84inch chest to fit it on


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 05, 2021, 14:26:48 pm
No way am I getting Koiki's name on the back of a shirt - it would cost a fortune
plus you would need an 84inch chest to fit it on
Koiki is less letters that the majority of the squad  ::)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 05, 2021, 15:45:10 pm
No way am I getting Koiki's name on the back of a shirt - it would cost a fortune
plus you would need an 84inch chest to fit it on

At least you have a choice  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on August 05, 2021, 17:49:22 pm
Koiki is less letters that the majority of the squad  ::)

Its a good one for Cobblers Scrabble though, you may need to use a blank but with the vowels gives a good chance of getting the K on a double or triple.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 05, 2021, 19:03:19 pm
No way am I getting Koiki's name on the back of a shirt - it would cost a fortune
plus you would need an 84inch chest to fit it on

Would it not fit across the hump on your back?  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 05, 2021, 21:08:25 pm
The whole Grealish saga has got me thinking…

It’s been a number of years since I remember us having a player that I’d class as a ‘favourite’. Someone to bring up with your non cobblers mates in the pub and they’d have half an idea of who you’re talking about. Someone you’d look forward to watching week in week out, the type of player you’d see on the back of shirts as you make your way to the ground.

Anyone else in the same boat?

The days of McGleish, M Smith, Taylor, Holmes, Bayo etc. seem like a lifetime ago…

Maybe the Curle style of play didn’t help matters.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 05, 2021, 21:19:13 pm
The whole Grealish saga has got me thinking…

It’s been a number of years since I remember us having a player that I’d class as a ‘favourite’. Someone to bring up with your non cobblers mates in the pub and they’d have half an idea of who you’re talking about. Someone you’d look forward to watching week in week out, the type of player you’d see on the back of shirts as you make your way to the ground.

Anyone else in the same boat?

The days of McGleish, M Smith, Taylor, Holmes, Bayo etc. seem like a lifetime ago…

Maybe the Curle style of play didn’t help matters.



JJOT but not in his last season post hair cut


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on August 05, 2021, 21:23:17 pm
Koiki is less letters that the majority of the squad  ::)
Have you seen his full name?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 06, 2021, 07:43:36 am
Have you seen his full name?
Never seen a full name on a shirt before


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: claretparrot on August 06, 2021, 08:37:32 am
The whole Grealish saga has got me thinking…

It’s been a number of years since I remember us having a player that I’d class as a ‘favourite’. Someone to bring up with your non cobblers mates in the pub and they’d have half an idea of who you’re talking about. Someone you’d look forward to watching week in week out, the type of player you’d see on the back of shirts as you make your way to the ground.

Anyone else in the same boat?

The days of McGleish, M Smith, Taylor, Holmes, Bayo etc. seem like a lifetime ago…

Maybe the Curle style of play didn’t help matters.




I agree. Since the title winning season (Holmes, JJOT) I can't think of any.

They all came along at once that season. With the goals he scored Rico would have been the favourite any other season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 06, 2021, 08:45:20 am
Charlie Goode?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 06, 2021, 09:25:04 am
I thought Hildeberto Pereira was gunna be this, the first since Holmes left
He had the tools, still remember his debut coming off the bench, nutmegging a player and setting up Revell for a goal
Then JFH started playing him at bloody CDM or deeper and deeper in midfield

The whole Grealish saga has got me thinking…

It’s been a number of years since I remember us having a player that I’d class as a ‘favourite’. Someone to bring up with your non cobblers mates in the pub and they’d have half an idea of who you’re talking about. Someone you’d look forward to watching week in week out, the type of player you’d see on the back of shirts as you make your way to the ground.

Anyone else in the same boat?

The days of McGleish, M Smith, Taylor, Holmes, Bayo etc. seem like a lifetime ago…

Maybe the Curle style of play didn’t help matters.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on August 06, 2021, 11:08:45 am
Never seen a full name on a shirt before

Forget I mentioned it - it was just a silly little joke
Obviously lost on some


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 06, 2021, 11:16:14 am
Charlie Goode?

That's a goode call.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 06, 2021, 11:27:18 am
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/young-defender-dyche-makes-loan-move-3336272


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 06, 2021, 11:55:26 am
Hartlepool fan on the Division 2 forum thinks they are signing Jonathon Mitchell. Now what price are they for relegation?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on August 06, 2021, 12:37:35 pm
Another one incoming...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 06, 2021, 12:51:20 pm
Another one incoming...

Not new…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 06, 2021, 12:53:23 pm
Doing hull a favour I heard


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: LawfordCob on August 06, 2021, 12:54:37 pm
Doing hull a favour I heard

Freeing up a loan spot?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 06, 2021, 13:41:16 pm
Have Spurs paid the £1million yet?
It's getting very tight!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 06, 2021, 13:41:22 pm
By chance, ntfclad, are you aware if we have options of extending contracts by a year put into these new signings' contracts (particularly for those on 1 year deals like Flores now) ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 06, 2021, 13:42:39 pm
By chance, ntfclad, are you aware if we have options of extending contracts by a year put into these new signings' contracts (particularly for those on 1 year deals like Flores now) ?

Would be interesting to know..

Strange to only offer him 1 year when everyone else seems to be on 2 years.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblersToMePod on August 06, 2021, 13:45:58 pm
I think that makes Flores and both keepers on just 1 year deals. There may be others I've forgotten.

Wouldn't be surprised if the deal was sorted very quickly and therefore Flores' personal terms remain the same as they were on his Hull deal, hence it only being for 1 year. Of course, that all depends on whether he had just the 1 year remaining on his deal with Hull.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 06, 2021, 13:55:26 pm
I think that makes Flores and both keepers on just 1 year deals. There may be others I've forgotten.

Wouldn't be surprised if the deal was sorted very quickly and therefore Flores' personal terms remain the same as they were on his Hull deal, hence it only being for 1 year. Of course, that all depends on whether he had just the 1 year remaining on his deal with Hull.

Sid Nelson and Ali Koiki also I believe are on 1 year deals


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblersToMePod on August 06, 2021, 14:08:45 pm
Sid Nelson and Ali Koiki also I believe are on 1 year deals

Cheers OCoole. I knew I'd miss some.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 06, 2021, 14:10:52 pm
It seems strange to only offer a 1 year deal given the amount of time the management have had to watch him in training and friendlies.

One can only assume he isn’t as good as we had hoped!   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 06, 2021, 14:36:31 pm
It seems strange to only offer a 1 year deal given the amount of time the management have had to watch him in training and friendlies.

One can only assume he isn’t as good as we had hoped!  

Or other agreements are in place if we are taking him permanently after originally only having him on loan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 06, 2021, 14:41:06 pm
It seems strange to only offer a 1 year deal given the amount of time the management have had to watch him in training and friendlies.

One can only assume he isn’t as good as we had hoped!   

Or he only wanted a 1 year deal, perhaps he feels he is too good for League 2 side.  
 ;)  How is the 'ménage à trois' type of bedsit progressing. ;D 8)



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 06, 2021, 14:43:31 pm
Forget I mentioned it - it was just a silly little joke
Obviously lost on some

Some on here are either dedicated snow flakes or lack a sense of humour...... in fact any humour!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on August 06, 2021, 15:05:13 pm
According to reports a couple of days ago, Hull needed to get rid of him as they discovered (they weren't aware when they loaned him out), he still counted as part of their squad even though he was on a season loan.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 06, 2021, 15:06:36 pm
Surprised that...

1) He got another league club
2) He didn't drop the scarf!  ;D

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/pools-sign-jonny-mitchell/ (https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/pools-sign-jonny-mitchell/)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ntfclad on August 06, 2021, 15:40:52 pm
I believe the option from Hull was right either we recall him or you take him on a contract similar to what the loan terms are


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 06, 2021, 15:58:39 pm
I believe the option from Hull was right either we recall him or you take him on a contract similar to what the loan terms are

So is it possible Hull are still making a wage contribution for this season?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 06, 2021, 16:00:58 pm
Just looking at the first team squad on the NTFC website. If I were Maxted, I would be a bit peeved;

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/

He's made the list - but still no picture. Poor Jonny  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on August 06, 2021, 16:18:37 pm
Surprised that...

1) He got another league club
2) He didn't drop the scarf!  ;D

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/pools-sign-jonny-mitchell/ (https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/pools-sign-jonny-mitchell/)

Poor Hartlepool  :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 06, 2021, 16:19:41 pm
He's made the list - but still no picture. Poor Jonny  :)

Bizarre that they still can't get the profiles looking uniform, wouldn't have thought it would take very long to do.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on August 06, 2021, 16:21:09 pm
So is it possible Hull are still making a wage contribution for this season?


Probably paid him the difference between NTFC wages and Hull wages. I think that's quite common.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 06, 2021, 16:51:04 pm


Probably paid him the difference between NTFC wages and Hull wages. I think that's quite common.

I reckon this Flores thingy could travel a fair distance before all is revealed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on August 06, 2021, 17:00:55 pm
I reckon this Flores thingy could travel a fair distance before all is revealed.


It's already been revealed why Hull needed rid of him. There's no mystery


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on August 07, 2021, 11:37:06 am
It's been done. Welcome Jordan! Hope you are the playmaker in waiting that we've been dreaming of.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on August 07, 2021, 11:42:39 am
It's been done. Welcome Jordan! Hope you are the playmaker in waiting that we've been dreaming of.

Won’t her enormous assets somewhat hinder her playmaking abilities?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 09, 2021, 19:16:49 pm
I see today "football insider" reporting that Aston Villa "have hijacked Tottenhams £1m offer for Chukwuemeka" and are now favourites to sign him. Obviously they were waiting for the money from the Grealish transfer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ryan Amoo 14 on August 10, 2021, 08:22:51 am
I see today "football insider" reporting that Aston Villa "have hijacked Tottenhams £1m offer for Chukwuemeka" and are now favourites to sign him. Obviously they were waiting for the money from the Grealish transfer.

Their owners have a net worth north of $10B so I think they might just have been able to find the £1M for Chuk regardless.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 10, 2021, 09:05:34 am
Their owners have a net worth north of $10B so I think they might just have been able to find the £1M for Chuk regardless.

Why so many intermittent postings RA14 as sometime ago you used to be a regular contributor? What do you think of the recently signed players?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 10, 2021, 09:09:20 am
It seems strange to only offer a 1 year deal given the amount of time the management have had to watch him in training and friendlies.

One can only assume he isn’t as good as we had hoped!   

After one game ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 10, 2021, 11:19:41 am
Newport County fan on division 2 forum thinks we are interested in Padraig Amond. Looks like he is leaving as he was left out of their squad on saturday.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 10, 2021, 11:47:58 am
Newport County fan on division 2 forum thinks we are interested in Padraig Amond. Looks like he is leaving as he was left out of their squad on saturday.
Not sure we need another slow striker who’s scored a lot of goals in the past, haven’t we got one of those Danny Rose?
If we are spunking some of the imaginary Chucks money I’d rather have the boy from Boreham Wood.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 10, 2021, 11:54:23 am
I agree, my thoughts were that he is not the type of player we would be looking for as Brady has stated he wants to play with pace. Kabongo Tshimanga would be worth signing just for the name.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3086 on August 10, 2021, 12:00:12 pm
I agree, my thoughts were that he is not the type of player we would be looking for as Brady has stated he wants to play with pace. Kabongo Tshimanga would be worth signing just for the name.

And so I can let him have this bloody shirt.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 10, 2021, 12:10:55 pm
I agree, my thoughts were that he is not the type of player we would be looking for as Brady has stated he wants to play with pace. Kabongo Tshimanga would be worth signing just for the name.
Cheers mate, good knowledge on the name.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 10, 2021, 13:11:59 pm
Walsall and Chesterfield are latest two to be linked to him I think. Been so many clubs mentioned he must have same agent as Chuk


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 10, 2021, 15:06:33 pm
So he's given us a wide berth and signed for PSG then.
That's the trouble these days, all about the money!
Half expected him to join Wrexham!  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 10, 2021, 17:25:50 pm
So he's given us a wide berth and signed for PSG then.
That's the trouble these days, all about the money!
Half expected him to join Wrexham!  :P

It'll be interesting to see how the Wrexham thing pans out. We should have rode on the back of the Kinky Boots craze a few years back to bag a Hollywood A-lister, with a weakness for contaminated land.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 10, 2021, 18:25:53 pm
It's alright Padraid Amond will not be joining us as he has gone on loan to Exeter.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 10, 2021, 20:19:12 pm
It's alright Padraid Amond will not be joining us as he has gone on loan to Exeter.

Had me worried as the guy is a blown out fuse,


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 11, 2021, 20:24:45 pm
first part of the prediction correct - second part of the prediction to follow which does not see caleb off to Spurs .
He may not physically be going very far at all initially after all.

When’s the second part landing Boot?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 11, 2021, 21:02:41 pm
When’s the second part landing Boot?
discussions ongoing with Villa .
It’s likely he will stay with us for the season but nothing decided as far as i know .
Mind you , the £1 million plus Etete looks a good deal now . Pity it was made up !!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: OCoole on August 11, 2021, 21:13:12 pm
discussions ongoing with Villa .
It’s likely he will stay with us for the season but nothing decided as far as i know .
Mind you , the £1 million plus Etete looks a good deal now . Pity it was made up !!

Any idea / ballpark figure how much we are likely to receive for Chuk?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 12, 2021, 08:47:36 am
Any idea / ballpark figure how much we are likely to receive for Chuk?

f*** all


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 12, 2021, 09:19:23 am
as i understand it and things change all the time , it will not be too far away from what you would get at a tribunal based on appearances etc .
That’s if it goes ahead at all .
£250k is probably realistic i would suggest but things change .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on August 12, 2021, 11:40:15 am
as i understand it and things change all the time , it will not be too far away from what you would get at a tribunal based on appearances etc .
That’s if it goes ahead at all .
£250k is probably realistic i would suggest but things change .

based on?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 12, 2021, 13:37:33 pm
Any idea / ballpark figure how much we are likely to receive for Chuk?
Undisclosed  ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 14, 2021, 21:26:41 pm
Ricky Holmes fails to agree terms at Southend and joins Farnborough instead. He made his debut for the Southern league side this afternoon.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 15, 2021, 08:59:18 am
Ricky Holmes fails to agree terms at Southend and joins Farnborough instead. He made his debut for the Southern league side this afternoon.
That’s quite sad, will always be a Cobbs legend.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblersToMePod on August 15, 2021, 09:06:54 am
It seems as though it wasn't a case of Southend not wanting him but rather not wanting to pay him enough.

This article from last week (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/19492067.latest-ricky-holmes-future-southend-united/) suggests it was all down to negotiations with the Chairman.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 15, 2021, 09:25:57 am
With Dyche and Flanagan now shipped out on loan, Horsfall suspended for the next game, and Harriman injured/ill, are we lacking another CB?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 15, 2021, 09:38:00 am
With Dyche and Flanagan now shipped out on loan, Horsfall suspended for the next game, and Harriman injured/ill, are we lacking another CB?

No, we've got Sid Nelson. Harriman should be available next week, he can play in a three as can McGowan if we decided to play that way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 15, 2021, 10:13:43 am
Ricky Holmes fails to agree terms at Southend and joins Farnborough instead. He made his debut for the Southern league side this afternoon.

Sad state of affairs...

He finally signs for his boyhood club in Southend...

They want to keep him for their promotion push back into the EFL....

Farnborough offer him more money so he signs for them instead!

Surely, he's not that desperate for money...after all, he was paid big bucks sitting on the bench for Sheff U


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on August 15, 2021, 18:06:29 pm
I have a die hard Millwall supporting pal and he is convinced that Sid Nelson has been very unlucky so far in his career and should be playing way up the footballing ladder. Apparently captain at Millwall in the championship at 18….sorry few beers and driveling on!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on August 15, 2021, 18:16:42 pm
I think with Holmes age and injuries have kicked in. In his first spell he could single handedly take the game by the scruff of the neck and change it…last season we were all willing him on but he wasn’t any where near the same as before. Southend have probably seen where he is performce wise and offered a contract to match that squad status. Farnborough rate him more for dropping down and he can probably offer his game changing ability at that level. Goalies and cb’s are only able to consistently replicate form professionally in to later years albeit for the occasional anomaly!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: ClaretCobbler on August 16, 2021, 15:24:31 pm
Transfer news coming up...


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 16, 2021, 15:32:02 pm
Finally Chuks gone to Villa


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 16, 2021, 15:32:57 pm
Undisclosed  ;)
Called it  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2021, 15:49:46 pm
Good luck to the lad. Think he’ll do alright there.

Reinvest some, get a quality striker bought and let’s get promoted back.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 16, 2021, 15:52:20 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-young-striker-chukwuemeka-leaves-cobblers-and-signs-for-aston-villa-3348271


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 16, 2021, 15:54:45 pm
Let's borrow his brother on a season loan!  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 16, 2021, 15:55:07 pm
What we need is a playmaker in central midfield, let’s see how much of yet another six figure transfer fee out of the club is spent on improving the current squad?
Credit where it is due KT is far more savvy in getting the best deal for himself compared to his predecessors.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on August 16, 2021, 15:55:43 pm
If there is a bit of £ available from this money, Id like it spent on wages for some old war horse like McCormack who can come on and help us close out games...

For me, that 'role' is the only box not ticked in the current squad. I look at our bench (when we are 1-0 up) and there isn't that type of player to bring on. I know we won on Saturday, but when we were up against it it would have been ideal to have that type of player with the know how and the knowledge to come on and help out. Calm things down. Manage the game. Sounded a bit too frantic for my liking during the closing stages!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 16, 2021, 16:01:36 pm
Caleb was always going to Villa for a fee that was aligned to a tribunal based on appearances .
The only surprising thing is that he hasn’t stayed here for the season on loan because that was the original intention.
It may open it up for someone else though . I wouldn’t hold your hopes up that the money will be spent on players having said that .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: southofthecounty on August 16, 2021, 17:59:10 pm
Finally Chuks gone to Villa
Greaslish Trickles Down?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 16, 2021, 18:02:05 pm
Caleb was always going to Villa for a fee that was aligned to a tribunal based on appearances .
The only surprising thing is that he hasn’t stayed here for the season on loan because that was the original intention.
It may open it up for someone else though . I wouldn’t hold your hopes up that the money will be spent on players having said that .

Running Costs………


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 16, 2021, 18:08:30 pm
Running Costs………
precisely
balancing budgets no doubt .
We have 4 strikers and Etete came in for Caleb.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 16, 2021, 18:13:06 pm
Finally Chuks gone to Villa

Good riddance!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 16, 2021, 18:15:30 pm
Caleb was always going to Villa for a fee that was aligned to a tribunal based on appearances .
The only surprising thing is that he hasn’t stayed here for the season on loan because that was the original intention.
It may open it up for someone else though . I wouldn’t hold your hopes up that the money will be spent on players having said that .


Do we need him back!?

He was our 5/6 choice striker at best.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 16, 2021, 18:55:10 pm
Do we need him back!?

He was our 5/6 choice striker at best.

Ete
(Hoskins) - who you never rated as a striker
BAS
Rose
Kabamba

So thats 4 by your reckoning


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 16, 2021, 19:16:37 pm
Pity we didn’t see his potential in a Cobblers shirt. If a Prem outfit are taking a punt he must have something, although we saw with Toney that he needed to drop to the depths of the P*sh to show his worth  :P
Be interesting to follow his progress and some more running costs covered for the season.
It’s another reminder that we are in a no win situation really. Anyone who shines moves on for modest fees or go back to their club.
It’s another reason why the stability that the likes of Sammo, Hoskins, Hargreaves, Buchs and co is often under appreciated.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 16, 2021, 19:25:58 pm
Just dandy that SKY Sports News keep reporting that Northampton Town have signed Caleb Chukwuemeka from Aston Villa...about time we showed some ambition!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 16, 2021, 19:37:13 pm
Ete
(Hoskins) - who you never rated as a striker
BAS
Rose
Kabamba

So thats 4 by your reckoning


So as stated, that would make him 5/6 choice?

Not sure the point on repeating what I said but questioning it at the same time, attention maybe?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 16, 2021, 20:11:44 pm
Anyone else pick up on the digs that JB aimed at Chuks and his agent, and KTs towards previous owners caving in to low deals?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on August 16, 2021, 20:15:07 pm
Anyone else pick up on the digs that JB aimed at Chuks and his agent, and KTs towards previous owners caving in to low deals?

DC needed more bricks for the left wing..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 16, 2021, 20:38:40 pm
So as stated, that would make him 5/6 choice?

Not sure the point on repeating what I said but questioning it at the same time, attention maybe?

You have got a thing about Attention Seekers  ::) So you are now counting Hoskins as a striker but in the recent past you discounted him. Bit contradictory don't you think?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 16, 2021, 20:51:41 pm
You have got a thing about Attention Seekers  ::) So you are now counting Hoskins as a striker but in the recent past you discounted him. Bit contradictory don't you think?

Again not sure on your point, try counting on your fingers, it might help.

You’ve named 4 possibly 5 strikers ahead of Caleb. Which makes him 5 or 6th choice. No need for any debate.

It doesn’t matter how many of the 4/5 I count as actual strikers. I’m not the manager.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WadeyCobbler on August 16, 2021, 21:20:26 pm
There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on August 16, 2021, 21:43:00 pm
There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.

I agree with what you're  saying to a point, but he never really got much of a chance. He only ever started 2 or 3 games?? and only came on as sub in no more than about 12. Not sure of the exact figures and can't be arsed to check.
So a premier league team is prepared to spend an undisclosed fee, what a surprise, on a 4th division player but a 4th division team isn't prepared to give a potential premier league player a chance. I don't really get it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 16, 2021, 21:45:30 pm
Villa fans seem very happy, if their forum is an accurate barometer!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: singcobb on August 16, 2021, 21:53:49 pm
Greaslish Trickles Down?


Gross


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on August 17, 2021, 06:57:50 am
I agree with what you're  saying to a point, but he never really got much of a chance. He only ever started 2 or 3 games?? and only came on as sub in no more than about 12. Not sure of the exact figures and can't be arsed to check.
So a premier league team is prepared to spend an undisclosed fee, what a surprise, on a 4th division player but a 4th division team isn't prepared to give a potential premier league player a chance. I don't really get it.

Its because a division 4 team can't always take a risk on a young unproven striker staying in the team but a Premier league club has the luxury of several youth teams and better coaches and facilities who can nurture and develop the players at a more natural pace
No way would Toney be the player he is today if he had stayed with us, he learnt and developed while at Newcastle and took that knowledge back down to League 1 and put it into practice.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 17, 2021, 08:07:31 am
You wont hear anything for 5 years and then he'll pop up in the FA cup for Solihull Moors.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on August 17, 2021, 08:35:08 am
There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.

Agreed, as Gazman points out, time for him to go and develop where they have the time and facilities, perfect for everyone.

Much in the same vein, Etete left Notts County at 16 I think to Spurs, learned from them and beefed up as Toney did with Newcastle. Maybe we get Chucks back in two years time on loan when he can influence a game?

Or buy Etete.  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on August 17, 2021, 08:37:23 am
Agreed, as Gazman points out, time for him to go and develop where they have the time and facilities, perfect for everyone.

Much in the same vein, Etete left Notts County at 16 I think to Spurs, learned from them and beefed up as Toney did with Newcastle. Maybe we get Chucks back in two years time on loan when he can influence a game?

Or buy Etete.  ;D
we'll only be buying Etete if he turns into a crock of s***.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on August 17, 2021, 09:06:00 am
I don't expect anyone to come in as we don't seem light up top. Like someone said above it would be good to see a really experienced operator in midfield to see games out.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 17, 2021, 09:14:25 am
i very much doubt anyone else will come in .
Players would need to leave for that to happen .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WadeyCobbler on August 17, 2021, 11:49:42 am
I don't expect anyone to come in as we don't seem light up top. Like someone said above it would be good to see a really experienced operator in midfield to see games out.

If say Etete suffers an injury that puts him out weeks then we're relying only on Kabamba and BAS. I'm not classing Hoskins as a striker, although he could do a job there if needs be. Am I missing anyone?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 17, 2021, 11:50:45 am
If say Etete suffers an injury that puts him out weeks then we're relying only on Kabamba and BAS. I'm not classing Hoskins as a striker, although he could do a job there if needs be. Am I missing anyone?
Danny Rose who is preferred to the utterly useless BAS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on August 17, 2021, 12:06:39 pm
Its because a division 4 team can't always take a risk on a young unproven striker staying in the team but a Premier league club has the luxury of several youth teams and better coaches and facilities who can nurture and develop the players at a more natural pace
No way would Toney be the player he is today if he had stayed with us, he learnt and developed while at Newcastle and took that knowledge back down to League 1 and put it into practice.

But if we had taken a "risk" on him and maybe played him/brought him on more often last season, he may have scored the goals needed to keep us up. We'll never know. One things for sure, he couldn't have done any worse than the strikers we did "risk".


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 17, 2021, 12:41:12 pm
Brady arguably knows him better than anyone, and barely played him last season despite admitting he was very limited on players.
I think I said before when Brady was asked about him in a interview he didnt seem bothered that he didnt want to stay


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 17, 2021, 12:54:07 pm
I think the club has got a decent deal, compared to £1m for Goode who was club captain and first name on the team sheet £300,000 for a player unable to get near a place in the starting 11 seems ok. Does not worry me that Villa have not loaned him back to us as we have 3-4 strikers in front of him he would be limited to cameo substitute appearances. Although he turned down our contract offers I doubt we would have got more at this time if he was on a permanent contract, to do so he would have needed to break into the team and show his worth. He is better developing within their youth set up.
Curle and Brady have both said he needed to more work off the ball and this was evident when he came on against Birmingham. On one occasion he lost the ball and made no attempt to win it back and seemed to have the attitude of "thats me done until somebody gives me the ball again". Kabamba and Rose both have the defensive side to their game and he needs to learn that.
Looking at the Villa forum some of them appear to think he is ready to step into their team commenting "assume he will be our 3rd striker". I doubt if he features in their team any time soon.
When Villa took his younger brother Carney does anybody know what we got from that deal?.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on August 17, 2021, 13:19:10 pm
Clubs like NTFC get raped by the Premiership clubs when they loose youth players!

It was only a rumour but I was told when Fraser Hornby was signed by Everton we only got £49K with the rest in add-ons!!!

Therefore well done to the club for the Caleb deal..............we are getting better.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 17, 2021, 13:41:31 pm
Danny Rose who is preferred to the utterly useless BAS.

If we’re looking to see out a game we’re winning then with his work rate Rose is the best option but say we were losing and needing a goal it’s starting to become a less obvious choice. BAS now has that goal with I good finish in his only appearance. If you look at Rose it’s now 27 appearances without a goal and that miss at Coventry was pretty awful. Even looking at the 3 games this season the 3 periods he’s been on the pitch we’ve been level with the opposition, while the 3 periods he’s not been on we’ve been beating our opponents each time. Even looking at preseason BAS was able to score against a team Rose couldn’t. Having said that I might still go with Rose but if anyone ever needed a goal it’s him and soon.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Coolcat on August 17, 2021, 13:49:26 pm
Its because a division 4 team can't always take a risk on a young unproven striker staying in the team but a Premier league club has the luxury of several youth teams and better coaches and facilities who can nurture and develop the players at a more natural pace
No way would Toney be the player he is today if he had stayed with us, he learnt and developed while at Newcastle and took that knowledge back down to League 1 and put it into practice.
Hang on, what's wrong with Colin? Or is it Sammo? Maybe, Jon even?  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 17, 2021, 13:51:03 pm
You wont hear anything for 5 years and then he'll pop up in the FA cup for Solihull Moors.

Wouldn’t  mind if we signed their current striker Hudlin but I think bigger teams are looking at him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 17, 2021, 13:51:46 pm
I think the club has got a decent deal, compared to £1m for Goode who was club captain and first name on the team sheet £300,000 for a player unable to get near a place in the starting 11 seems ok. Does not worry me that Villa have not loaned him back to us as we have 3-4 strikers in front of him he would be limited to cameo substitute appearances. Although he turned down our contract offers I doubt we would have got more at this time if he was on a permanent contract, to do so he would have needed to break into the team and show his worth. He is better developing within their youth set up.
Curle and Brady have both said he needed to more work off the ball and this was evident when he came on against Birmingham. On one occasion he lost the ball and made no attempt to win it back and seemed to have the attitude of "thats me done until somebody gives me the ball again". Kabamba and Rose both have the defensive side to their game and he needs to learn that.
Looking at the Villa forum some of them appear to think he is ready to step into their team commenting "assume he will be our 3rd striker". I doubt if he features in their team any time soon.
When Villa took his younger brother Carney does anybody know what we got from that deal?.

Where is the £300k coming from?
Read that a couple of times but seems to be ‘undisclosed’


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 17, 2021, 14:15:42 pm
Where is the £300k coming from?
Read that a couple of times but seems to be ‘undisclosed’
Chron journalist tweeted "Fee undisclosed but believe initial figure is £300k and could reach £1m+ with add-ons."


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 17, 2021, 14:34:06 pm
Where is the £300k coming from?
Read that a couple of times but seems to be ‘undisclosed’

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-young-striker-chukwuemeka-leaves-cobblers-and-signs-for-aston-villa-3348271


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 17, 2021, 14:47:27 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-young-striker-chukwuemeka-leaves-cobblers-and-signs-for-aston-villa-3348271

Thanks.
It's win, win I guess. A lot of money for someone unproven. Loose change for Villa who either get a star themselves, or cash in/out at a later date.
Good luck to the lad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 17, 2021, 15:58:49 pm
Thanks.
It's win, win I guess. A lot of money for someone unproven. Loose change for Villa who either get a star themselves, or cash in/out at a later date.
Good luck to the lad.
Agreed, although I’d have liked to have seen us get one of their fringe players on loan as part of the deal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on August 17, 2021, 16:17:55 pm
Agreed, although I’d have liked to have seen us get one of their fringe players on loan as part of the deal.

I think we were, until Man City stole him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on August 17, 2021, 18:57:41 pm
Clubs like NTFC get raped by the Premiership clubs when they loose youth players!

It was only a rumour but I was told when Fraser Hornby was signed by Everton we only got £49K with the rest in add-ons!!!

Therefore well done to the club for the Caleb deal..............we are getting better.


Fraser Hornby would have gone under EPPP so the club would have had no say over the fee, it's fixed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on August 17, 2021, 19:50:20 pm
I think we were, until Man City stole him.

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 17, 2021, 20:34:12 pm
I think we were, until Man City stole him.
;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WadeyCobbler on August 17, 2021, 21:15:34 pm
Danny Rose who is preferred to the utterly useless BAS.

Completely forgot about him, probably because he never scores! Should be ok in League Two.




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 21, 2021, 14:58:41 pm
There is a Chukwuemeka on the bench for Villa today.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 21, 2021, 20:18:02 pm
There is a Chukwuemeka on the bench for Villa today.

Carney not Caleb.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2021, 11:29:58 am
Completely forgot about him, probably because he never scores! Should be ok in League Two.




Nope. Don’t think he’d be okay in the Regional National Leagues.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Pablo69 on August 23, 2021, 16:20:45 pm
Are there any rumours of us adding to our squad before the window closes even if loans?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Horsham Cobbler on August 23, 2021, 18:41:08 pm
Are there any rumours of us adding to our squad before the window closes even if loans?

To coin a phrase: I suspect JB has made his bed and now needs to lie in it.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 23, 2021, 18:44:36 pm
Are there any rumours of us adding to our squad before the window closes even if loans?
As far as I’ve been told we need to get rid of one to bring one in.
Good old KT.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on August 23, 2021, 21:17:41 pm
As far as I’ve been told we need to get rid of one to bring one in.
Good old KT.

Well we just have and allegedly got £300,000. Surely that's enough for a half decent 4th division striker/midfielder/defender or more.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 24, 2021, 10:53:25 am
Well we just have and allegedly got £300,000. Surely that's enough for a half decent 4th division striker/midfielder/defender or more.

Plus the Matt Crooks sell on fee - 20% rumoured...



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 24, 2021, 11:28:17 am
Both good little income streams to balance the books a bit this season. A good cup run and decent league season and we might even break even.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 24, 2021, 13:05:14 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: CobblerForever on August 24, 2021, 13:21:25 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?

As he's resident in the USA it's more likely to be incorporated in a management charge.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on August 24, 2021, 13:25:51 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?

I assume he is a director so it has to be disclosed in the accounts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 24, 2021, 13:48:34 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on August 24, 2021, 13:59:36 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?
Get GPC on to it, if anyone can he can.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 24, 2021, 15:38:11 pm
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?

You'll have to contact payroll for more detail on the breakdown of £3.9m  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Another Pedj on August 24, 2021, 21:52:58 pm
You'll have to contact payroll for more detail on the breakdown of £3.9m  :P

No Directors has to be disclosed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 25, 2021, 07:39:00 am
Out of interest anyone know what KT draws as a salary?
If you believe him (which I know you dont) he has said in the past he doesnt take a salary.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 25, 2021, 07:42:31 am
If you believe him (which I know you dont) he has said in the past he doesnt take a salary.

I think that’s a play on words, I wouldn’t expect anyone to work for nothing.
So the alleged £1.3m he took from the Chinese takeover? 😉


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Monkey on August 25, 2021, 07:50:33 am
If you believe him (which I know you dont) he has said in the past he doesnt take a salary.


I'm not sure how he could have walked away with an uncontested £1.3m?
e.g. I only pay myself a salary of around £10k a year. The rest I take in dividends so the question is not what salary does he take, but how much does he take out of the company. Anything legitimate will show up in the accounts.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on August 25, 2021, 07:59:37 am
If you believe him (which I know you dont) he has said in the past he doesnt take a salary.
Good old Kelvin, loves us SO much he works for nothing !! I bet he also pays for his own flights from the USA and back  :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 25, 2021, 08:00:46 am
I'm not sure how he could have walked away with an uncontested £1.3m?
e.g. I only pay myself a salary of around £10k a year. The rest I take in dividends so the question is not what salary does he take, but how much does he take out of the company. Anything legitimate will show up in the accounts.
Lets not start the £1.3m thing again!
He also has several companies so may not take money from one but take more from another etc. I'm sure he isn't struggling to put food on the table or heat the pool.
If I was in his position I wouldn't be taking a salary from the club to make the books look as strong as they are (I know) and then waiting for the pay day when I sold the club.

But thats never going to happen if we dont sign someone who can score goals!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 25, 2021, 08:02:52 am
Good old Kelvin, loves us SO much he works for nothing !! I bet he also pays for his own flights from the USA and back  :)
A question was asked, I answered it with what I had read.
I guess his salary, or money that he takes from the club in anyway is only relevant if you think he is taking money that could be used as a salary for a player. I don't believe that is that case. Some will. But I think we all know by now who is on what side of that discussion.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 25, 2021, 08:34:37 am
Not exactly a proven goal scorer, which is going to be hard to find at this point of the season, but Aramide Oteh is still without a club.
Young players who's moved about a bit on loan, could be a good prospect for Brady and Rico to work on and get him settled at a club.
He was on trial at Doncaster but cant see if he's still there or not


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 25, 2021, 09:06:02 am
There is virtually no chance we will sign anyone before the deadline unless someone comes in for Rose or BAS which is unlikely .
JB is stuck with legacy contracts and can’t shift them .
We have to find a more progressive way of playing and ensure we attack the box to get onto the crosses that are put in . We had plenty of chances last night that no one attacked .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 25, 2021, 09:15:52 am
I'm not sure how he could have walked away with an uncontested £1.3m?
e.g. I only pay myself a salary of around £10k a year. The rest I take in dividends so the question is not what salary does he take, but how much does he take out of the company. Anything legitimate will show up in the accounts.
It was contested, anyway you are indeed correct, I used the word salary as a catch all of what he takes from the club.
I think we could afford another player TBH, even on loan, where’s the £300k from Chucks or the £200k from Crooks? These aren’t insignificant sums.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on August 25, 2021, 09:19:04 am
We have left it a bit late if we are now deciding we want/need another striker. There is definitely zero point in signing another 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 forward player.
Rose is our most 'prolific', followed by Hoskins. It's a risk that Etete was brought here as our 19 year old loanee savior. There aren't that many strikers around who are going to guarantee you goals. Look at Forest Green the early front runners. They have Matt scoring 1 in 2 but never anywhere near that before. Apart from that they haven't got anyone on paper who is better than what we have.
If anything you'd swap BAS out for Alistair Slowe but apart from that I can't see things changing too much.

Ultimately JB and co will be accountable for their decisions and excuses of 'legacy contracts' won't cut it, although I'm sure he'd never make them. Not many managers in football gets to build their entire squad, certainly at our level. He's built his team, along with his back room team and fingers crossed we are soon back to winning ways, starting at the weekend.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 25, 2021, 09:38:14 am
We have left it a bit late if we are now deciding we want/need another striker. There is definitely zero point in signing another 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 forward player.
Rose is our most 'prolific', followed by Hoskins. It's a risk that Etete was brought here as our 19 year old loanee savior. There aren't that many strikers around who are going to guarantee you goals. Look at Forest Green the early front runners. They have Matt scoring 1 in 2 but never anywhere near that before. Apart from that they haven't got anyone on paper who is better than what we have.
If anything you'd swap BAS out for Alistair Slowe but apart from that I can't see things changing too much.

Ultimately JB and co will be accountable for their decisions and excuses of 'legacy contracts' won't cut it, although I'm sure he'd never make them. Not many managers in football gets to build their entire squad, certainly at our level. He's built his team, along with his back room team and fingers crossed we are soon back to winning ways, starting at the weekend.
It would need to be a BAS plus cash to resign the beach ball headed Slowe.
If we loose on Saturday, the pressure will start to build and from what I’ve seen JB doesn’t seem to handle it too well, he had a free shot last year but this year he’s been able to build a team with mostly players he’s brought in.
We should win on Saturday, but they will want a reaction after getting pumped.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: NathR on August 26, 2021, 05:40:05 am
https://talksport.com/football/924443/jack-wilshere-struggle-next-club-summer-transfer-window-arsenal-west-ham-bournemouth/

Jack wilshere has had no offers after being released by Bournemouth.  Assume wage demand would need to be realistic as injury history a concern, however what a free signing he could be for a lower league club, maybe on a pay as you play deal.

# I am not suggesting NTFC have made an offer.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 26, 2021, 08:02:23 am
https://talksport.com/football/924443/jack-wilshere-struggle-next-club-summer-transfer-window-arsenal-west-ham-bournemouth/

Jack wilshere has had no offers after being released by Bournemouth.  Assume wage demand would need to be realistic as injury history a concern, however what a free signing he could be for a lower league club, maybe on a pay as you play deal.

# I am not suggesting NTFC have made an offer.

Always interesting to read on the fortunes of former big time players. Needs to get himself in the shop window, prove himself to attract at the very least a Championship Club!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 26, 2021, 09:16:57 am
https://talksport.com/football/924443/jack-wilshere-struggle-next-club-summer-transfer-window-arsenal-west-ham-bournemouth/

Jack wilshere has had no offers after being released by Bournemouth.  Assume wage demand would need to be realistic as injury history a concern, however what a free signing he could be for a lower league club, maybe on a pay as you play deal.

# I am not suggesting NTFC have made an offer.
I think he said as much but expect him to be off to one of the smaller Serie A or La Liga teams, maybe MLS or Saudi


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on August 26, 2021, 10:53:08 am
https://talksport.com/football/924443/jack-wilshere-struggle-next-club-summer-transfer-window-arsenal-west-ham-bournemouth/

Jack wilshere has had no offers after being released by Bournemouth.  Assume wage demand would need to be realistic as injury history a concern, however what a free signing he could be for a lower league club, maybe on a pay as you play deal. ;

# I am not suggesting NTFC have made an offer.

Jack takes his son to the school I work at in Hertfordshire. May be able to put in a little word  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 26, 2021, 11:13:45 am
I see we are due more money from Villa for the chuckle brothers. Caleb's sub appearance triggers his first payment and Caney's first full team start also triggers a payment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 26, 2021, 11:15:58 am
I see we are due more money from Villa for the chuckle brothers. Caleb's sub appearance triggers his first payment and Caney's first full team start also triggers a payment.

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/ex-cobbler-chukwuemeka-triggers-add-on-clause-after-making-debut-for-aston-villa-3360415


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 26, 2021, 12:06:21 pm
Brady is happy with the squad though, but seems to suggest that we could make an addition if its injury related. Certainly nothing to hint that a prolific goalscorer or midfield general is anywhere on the radar.

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-ready-to-act-if-needed-before-transfer-deadline-3360359


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 26, 2021, 12:41:01 pm
Surely the data driven approach coupled with numerous committee meetings will have spelled out where we need to strengthen?

Nothing like having a strategic plan is there?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 26, 2021, 15:08:16 pm
Surely the data driven approach coupled with numerous committee meetings will have spelled out where we need to strengthen?

Nothing like having a strategic plan is there?

Unless the Hoskins theory takes off we would still want a goal scorer!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 29, 2021, 06:02:08 am
Does the first start for Carney in the PL for Villa give us another chunk of cash?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 29, 2021, 09:29:03 am
Does the first start for Carney in the PL for Villa give us another chunk of cash?
No idea, but if his transfer was in the KT days I would think it highly likely.
We need to splash some cash, a striker and a left sided defender.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on August 29, 2021, 11:34:11 am
No idea, but if his transfer was in the KT days I would think it highly likely.
We need to splash some cash, a striker and a left sided defender.


99.9% that is not going to happen. Plus there is not that much about whose going to get you the goal tally we need. We missed the boat with players Like Danny Johnson or Conor McAleny who moved clubs pre season. Then there's that lad who ended up at Chesterfield, in the league below us there are strikers like McCallum or Wotton who seem to find the goal fairly regularly, but both come with risks and Wotton is very similar to what we have.

I am bit stumped who we could bring in?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 29, 2021, 11:43:17 am
Judging by Brady's after match comments yesterday we are more likely to bring in a defender to cover Mills's injury. Obviously we don't yet know how long Mills will be missing but maybe bring somebody in on a short term contract as cover, 6 months or to the january window. Harriman of course can play either side.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Alfred on August 29, 2021, 12:47:35 pm
Does the first start for Carney in the PL for Villa give us another chunk of cash?

150k after 10 appearances,  i think under the terms of FFP or whatever its called.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Larry on August 29, 2021, 17:58:04 pm
150k after 10 appearances,  i think under the terms of FFP or whatever its called.

Do we get appearance money for Carney as well as Caleb? That's handy.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 29, 2021, 19:58:43 pm
Looks like Mills will be out for a while as he has fractured his ankle so I expect we will be after a replacement.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 29, 2021, 20:39:09 pm
Looks like Mills will be out for a while as he has fractured his ankle so I expect we will be after a replacement.
That’s his season over, at least 3-4 months to heal, then as much again to start active training.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3386 on August 30, 2021, 09:59:13 am
That’s his season over, at least 3-4 months to heal, then as much again to start active training.

Depends who bad it is when I broke my ankle i was back playing with in 12 weeks so fingers crossed it isn't bad. Just hope they don't rush him back


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on August 30, 2021, 11:56:38 am
Cheltenham Town are set to loan striker George Lloyd to a League Two club

Might be us, might not


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 30, 2021, 12:08:07 pm
Cheltenham Town are set to loan striker George Lloyd to a League Two club

Might be us, might not

Why us though, not much different to what we already have?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on August 30, 2021, 13:16:04 pm
Cheltenham Town are set to loan striker George Lloyd to a League Two club

Might be us, might not
Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 30, 2021, 13:19:21 pm
Cheltenham Town are set to loan striker George Lloyd to a League Two club

Might be us, might not

Hope not


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on August 30, 2021, 16:27:32 pm
Scott Kashket has left Wycombe Wanderers by mutual consent to enable him to sign for a new team ahead of the transfer deadline on Tuesday night...

Possible?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 30, 2021, 16:37:49 pm
Scott Kashket has left Wycombe Wanderers by mutual consent to enable him to sign for a new team ahead of the transfer deadline on Tuesday night...

Possible?

Just saw this reported.....a trawl of the www doesn't give any clues as to where he is going......so yeah, its possible that it's us at this stage!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 30, 2021, 17:24:43 pm
Cheltenham Town are set to loan striker George Lloyd to a League Two club

Might be us, might not

Port Vale... ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 30, 2021, 17:27:56 pm
Wouldn't turn Troy Deeney down... ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on August 30, 2021, 17:53:24 pm
Wouldn't turn Troy Deeney down... ;D
Prefer Andy Carroll to be honest, similar type..difference in pay though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on August 30, 2021, 18:01:06 pm
Just saw this reported.....a trawl of the www doesn't give any clues as to where he is going......so yeah, its possible that it's us at this stage!!

Signed for Crewe…..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Travelaway on August 30, 2021, 18:09:18 pm
Signed for Crewe…..

Big Troy then...??

Reminiscent of the Marco signing...(Ill Dream on)..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 30, 2021, 18:35:25 pm
Cheltenham have got a lad called Andy Williams who has done ok for them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 30, 2021, 19:51:52 pm
Cheltenham have got a lad called Andy Williams who has done ok for them.

Is he still going! maybe pair him with 39 year old Bayo!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Smoking Boots on August 30, 2021, 19:54:44 pm
Is he still going! maybe pair him with 39 year old Bayo!
Proven goal scores....do we have any?

Age is just a number..apparently..


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on August 30, 2021, 20:20:23 pm
Proven goal scores....do we have any?


I still keep hearing ‘proven goal scorer’ used to describe Danny ‘no goals in last 30 appearances’ Rose


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 31, 2021, 08:28:29 am
Nicky Maynard, knows where the net is.  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on August 31, 2021, 08:42:58 am
Maynard scored 2 in 19 appearances for Newport County on loan last season. Still better than some of our strikers.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 31, 2021, 09:25:34 am
Wouldn't turn Troy Deeney down... ;D
Oh you tart….. :o


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: TheShoeArmy1897 on August 31, 2021, 09:41:42 am
Do we think we'll be in teh deadline day action today then following Mills injury?

Can see a loan or free agent gamble just to give us some depth

I'd love to see someone signed to keep BAS out the match day squad too


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on August 31, 2021, 10:01:53 am
Oh you tart….. :o

I was going to say that it was tongue in cheek, but I've decided not to...  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on August 31, 2021, 10:15:30 am
Not sure you can buy passion but Saturday we lacked that. I didn’t see any real leaders in that game on Saturday which is a real worry.

The likes of McCormack or a Jason Taylor type rattling the opposition in that midfield area is what makes it breaks your Season. In Lewis and Flores I can’t see it and yes I know McWilliams can on his day but he is still very hit and miss.

I’d like to see us bring in 2 more bodies. One midfield and one Attacker. I don’t think he need an more defenders as we have Harriman and Dyce if things get desperate.


Mills will be a loss but if I’m very honest he hasn’t started the season very well at all and I am hoping Koki will now take his chance which I believe he should have been starting before Mills IMO.

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Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 31, 2021, 10:19:17 am
Maynard scored 2 in 19 appearances for Newport County on loan last season. Still better than some of our strikers.

He doesn't fit our profile though, he's 34 years old. We're only mainly signing players in their mid to late twenties.    


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 31, 2021, 10:32:24 am
Not sure you can buy passion but Saturday we lacked that. I didn’t see any real leaders in that game on Saturday which is a real worry.

The likes of McCormack or a Jason Taylor type rattling the opposition in that midfield area is what makes it breaks your Season. In Lewis and Flores I can’t see it and yes I know McWilliams can on his day but he is still very hit and miss.

I’d like to see us bring in 2 more bodies. One midfield and one Attacker. I don’t think he need an more defenders as we have Harriman and Dyce if things get desperate.


Mills will be a loss but if I’m very honest he hasn’t started the season very well at all and I am hoping Koki will now take his chance which I believe he should have been starting before Mills IMO.

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Good to see you back but just two posts since Feb 21? I liked your summary of the recent Colchester game which is at odds with your excellent summary on the Crawley game unless it is my imagination they seem to contradict one another?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on August 31, 2021, 10:38:17 am
I Say what i see from week to week my friend. I read this board all the time but very often don’t post my views week to week like most on here.

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Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 31, 2021, 10:50:56 am
I Say what i see from week to week my friend. I read this board all the time but very often don’t post my views week to week like most on here.

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👍




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on August 31, 2021, 11:10:03 am
1 + 1 = ?

Left back Brandon Mason has today been released by Coventry after 3 years at the club!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on August 31, 2021, 11:37:42 am
1 + 1 = ?

Left back Brandon Mason has today been released by Coventry after 3 years at the club!

Given his Twitter account shows him in hospital after having surgery on a hamstring on August 3rd, and is therefore not likely to be fit to play for a good number of weeks, I'd say that he's a cert!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on August 31, 2021, 12:02:53 pm
Given his Twitter account shows him in hospital after having surgery on a hamstring on August 3rd, and is therefore not likely to be fit to play for a good number of weeks, I'd say that he's a cert!  ;D

B*gger!!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 31, 2021, 12:16:19 pm
I would guess that any replacement at full back is going to be little more than a squad player. Koiki will replace Mills and as someone else said we have Harriman. McWilliams has played full back and so had Hoskins so even though not ideal we have cover.
Also don't see how we can sign a goal scorer this late without spending big, which I don't think they will do. I think they are happy enough with what they have. They'll identify someone to bring in either January or even next summer and build in that way like they said they would.
We might bring in one or two players but I don't think it will be anyone to excite us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 31, 2021, 12:25:07 pm
Not sure you can buy passion but Saturday we lacked that. I didn’t see any real leaders in that game on Saturday which is a real worry.

The likes of McCormack or a Jason Taylor type rattling the opposition in that midfield area is what makes it breaks your Season. In Lewis and Flores I can’t see it and yes I know McWilliams can on his day but he is still very hit and miss.

I’d like to see us bring in 2 more bodies. One midfield and one Attacker. I don’t think he need an more defenders as we have Harriman and Dyce if things get desperate.


Mills will be a loss but if I’m very honest he hasn’t started the season very well at all and I am hoping Koki will now take his chance which I believe he should have been starting before Mills IMO.

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Very interesting that your points echo what I raised towards the end of preseason.

Now that others are coming round, I hope JB is also.

Still a few hours to go so fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Robas on August 31, 2021, 12:47:45 pm
The real answer would be to get Salford reserve CB Jordan Turnbull back, especially as they have just signed another central defender this week.

Then we get a CB, LB and DM in one go. In my dreams of course!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on August 31, 2021, 12:54:29 pm
NTFCLAD is quiet which makes me think nothing is going to happen today  :(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on August 31, 2021, 13:22:23 pm
The real answer would be to get Salford reserve CB Jordan Turnbull back, especially as they have just signed another central defender this week.

Then we get a CB, LB and DM in one go. In my dreams of course!

I am not big on pining for former players but that is a cracking suggestion.

He is solid at LB, CB and DM.

I would have him back in a heartbeat, I don't get why he was so underrated here.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 31, 2021, 13:47:02 pm
one about to be announced according to a cryptic message from James at the Chron


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on August 31, 2021, 13:55:04 pm
Very interesting that your points echo what I raised towards the end of preseason.

Now that others are coming round, I hope JB is also.

Still a few hours to go so fingers crossed.

Equally quite a few don’t agree with your sentiments particularly in the way you vilify you certain players who don’t meet your criteria?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on August 31, 2021, 14:00:18 pm
Defender Dominic Revan on loan from Villa


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on August 31, 2021, 14:09:05 pm
Looks a decent signing but I hope he isn’t the last one in the door as we need a few goals which I doubt Revan will get many  ;D


Expecting another  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on August 31, 2021, 14:24:16 pm
Revan looks a good signing .
I think it is as much about centre half cover as left back .
It is the creativity that worries me . There is a lot of expectation on Flores with so much reliance on playing wide players


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on August 31, 2021, 14:35:03 pm
Revan looks a good signing .
I think it is as much about centre half cover as left back .
It is the creativity that worries me . There is a lot of expectation on Flores with so much reliance on playing wide players

Most of his games at u23 level have been at left back but he can also play effectively at centre half. Looks a good signing, another with pace and power.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: bungle on August 31, 2021, 14:36:20 pm
It is the creativity that worries me . There is a lot of expectation on Flores with so much reliance on playing wide players

Agreed. We made a few more chances against Crawley, but I'd still say it's a case of needing to create more rather than needing to finish more effectively.  

The one player who would really raise our game IMO is a creative playmaker no.10 type who could get plenty of assists and perhaps chip in with a few goals himself. 2016 vintage Ricky Holmes in other words.

I don't expect to see Brady signing one though - even if someone with the requisite quality was available - because it would probably necessitate a move away from 4-4-2.






Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on August 31, 2021, 16:16:44 pm
Looks a decent signing but I hope he isn’t the last one in the door as we need a few goals which I doubt Revan will get many  ;D


Expecting another  ;D

Probably won't be far behind our current strikers. 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on August 31, 2021, 20:55:22 pm
Confirmed no more ins or outs…


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on August 31, 2021, 22:07:20 pm
Confirmed no more ins or outs…

Ambitious.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 01, 2021, 05:49:55 am
Ambitious.

At least the books look good I suppose!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: NathR on September 01, 2021, 06:18:41 am
Could Pollock be the answer in a forward role ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 01, 2021, 07:01:46 am
At least the books look good I suppose!
Which books 🤔 NTFC is nearly £8m in debt.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 01, 2021, 10:05:26 am
Which books 🤔 NTFC is nearly £8m in debt.

The 'books' from the summer transfer window.

A lot more + than -.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on September 01, 2021, 13:35:32 pm
There were glimpses last night that suggested Flores may be the answer in regards to a play maker.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 01, 2021, 16:38:44 pm
There were glimpses last night that suggested Flores may be the answer in regards to a play maker.

I take it you were actually there? If so that kind of news is heartening.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 01, 2021, 17:16:59 pm
The 'books' from the summer transfer window.

A lot more + than -.
Yes agree 👍


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 02, 2021, 11:41:50 am
I see that cobblers target Kabongo Tshimanga is top scorer in the nationwide league.
Ambitious Chesterfield  :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 02, 2021, 12:23:39 pm
I see that cobblers target Kabongo Tshimanga is top scorer in the nationwide league.
Ambitious Chesterfield  :P
How's Caleb getting on at Spurs?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on September 02, 2021, 12:32:01 pm
I see that cobblers target Kabongo Tshimanga is top scorer in the nationwide league.
Ambitious Chesterfield  :P

This lad was so obviously worth a punt. I can only think the money was too much?

Anywho, just read the Chron article about JB having the opportunity to bring in more cover but he believes he has enough. This is definitely a g-amble given we only have 2 forwards (I’m not counting Rose and Benny!). That said, I believe in JB and his back room team, so we’ll go with what we’ve got - it certainly should be enough to have a bit of a go this season.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on September 02, 2021, 13:04:39 pm
I take it you were actually there? If so that kind of news is heartening.

He was in and out of the game but actually managed to play a couple of through balls (something I haven't seen a cobblers player do in a few years  ;D). One cut their defence in half but BAS had strayed offside.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 02, 2021, 15:10:56 pm
This lad was so obviously worth a punt. I can only think the money was too much?

Anywho, just read the Chron article about JB having the opportunity to bring in more cover but he believes he has enough. This is definitely a g-amble given we only have 2 forwards (I’m not counting Rose and Benny!). That said, I believe in JB and his back room team, so we’ll go with what we’ve got - it certainly should be enough to have a bit of a go this season.
Spot on Jim, shame we didn’t have a pûnt on the lad.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 02, 2021, 15:11:54 pm
How's Caleb getting on at Spurs?
Not guilty Woody, can’t remember who started that on but in fairness it was half correct minus a million quid 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 02, 2021, 15:19:01 pm
He was in and out of the game but actually managed to play a couple of through balls (something I haven't seen a cobblers player do in a few years  ;D). One cut their defence in half but BAS had strayed offside.

Interesting comments, we shall see Saturday!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on September 05, 2021, 10:34:33 am
As far as I’m aware Horsfall’s contract is up at the end of the season, I really wish the club would be proactive and looking at extending his contract now. Him and Guthrie have formed a solid partnership. What’s the betting though they wait till the end of the season and are seemingly shocked that are best couple of players are in demand and sign for other clubs.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on September 05, 2021, 10:57:49 am
And yet when we signed Horsfall the usual suspects were questioning the signing and after his first few games consigning him not be good enough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on September 05, 2021, 11:55:30 am
And yet when we signed Horsfall the usual suspects were questioning the signing and after his first few games consigning him not be good enough.
He wasn't when paired with Bolger. Pairing him up with someone faster and generally better has had a marked effect.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 05, 2021, 22:20:50 pm
As far as I’m aware Horsfall’s contract is up at the end of the season, I really wish the club would be proactive and looking at extending his contract now. Him and Guthrie have formed a solid partnership. What’s the betting though they wait till the end of the season and are seemingly shocked that are best couple of players are in demand and sign for other clubs.

I was thinking exactly the same thing on Saturday, we need to get him to sign an extension.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on September 06, 2021, 05:02:16 am
I was thinking exactly the same thing on Saturday, we need to get him to sign an extension.

If Koikis form continues, same applies.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on September 06, 2021, 08:24:01 am
If Koikis form continues, same applies.

based on one full league game


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 06, 2021, 08:37:15 am
based on one full league game

...and until the next League game... ::) ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on September 06, 2021, 09:23:41 am
And Hoskins, Roberts and Pollock.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 06, 2021, 14:10:11 pm
And Hoskins, Roberts and Pollock.
If we make it into L1 I honestly think that only Roberts would need an extension maybe Pollock.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1971cobbler on September 06, 2021, 14:16:52 pm
If we make it into L1 I honestly think that only Roberts would need an extension maybe Pollock.

Roberts is on a 2yr deal, isn't he? Less urgency on that one. Horsfall definitely needs action sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on September 06, 2021, 14:44:46 pm
Roberts is on a 2yr deal, isn't he? Less urgency on that one. Horsfall definitely needs action sooner rather than later.

Both goalkeepers are on 1 year deals, along with Koiki and Nelson of the players we signed in the summer. All the other summer signings are on 2 year deals.

Flores is also on a 1 year deal.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on September 06, 2021, 15:45:50 pm
based on one full league game

If being patronising makes you feel better mate, not a problem. Hope you have had a good Monday :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on September 06, 2021, 16:25:37 pm
If being patronising makes you feel better mate, not a problem. Hope you have had a good Monday :)

yep, really good thanks, my first day in a new job and they offered me a new, better contract.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 06, 2021, 19:01:54 pm
yep, really good thanks, my first day in a new job and they offered me a new, better contract.



*this never happened.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on September 06, 2021, 19:43:28 pm
Koiki is quality. Offer him till he's 30 now.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 10, 2021, 14:49:28 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-appoint-local-businessman-as-new-associate-director-3378717


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 10, 2021, 19:11:41 pm
Apologies for breaking my exile but I thought you’d be interested to know that we’ve held talks with David nugent….

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Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on September 10, 2021, 19:27:43 pm
Oh please no. 36 years old and 3 goals in his last 40 games. PNE supporters could not wait to get rid of him saying he was totally immobile and he did not pull up any trees at Tranmere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Keith on September 10, 2021, 20:20:49 pm
perfect for us,


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 13, 2021, 13:33:40 pm
Oh please no. 36 years old and 3 goals in his last 40 games. PNE supporters could not wait to get rid of him saying he was totally immobile and he did not pull up any trees at Tranmere.
Prolific for us then!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on September 13, 2021, 14:35:55 pm
Apologies for breaking my exile but I thought you’d be interested to know that we’ve held talks with David nugent….

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This sounds like a CC sort of signing, ala Jess and Taylor.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on September 14, 2021, 09:19:10 am
Koiki is quality. Offer him till he's 30 now.

Agreed, he is class


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 14, 2021, 14:33:20 pm
Agreed, he is class

Many plaudits flooding in on Kioki. The question is have they seen him play away. I agree his power surges are welcome; I love it! These power surges are not so evident at away games. Even at FGR in the few surges he did invariably was lost in an over optimistic pass. Personally would not play him as a left back in a 442, possibly in a 3-5-2 but whether he has the quality of passing ability is debatable. Whilst his defensive duties in home games were energetically carried out but at FGR when their right midfield began to make in roads I thought Kioki looked a bit bemused by this aggressive play. Once with Lewis, he or both failed to dispossess an FGR player. The full backs should be of an unforgiving nature so shove Kioki into midfield to add some impetus there but he must learn to pass first.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 14, 2021, 14:47:25 pm
Many plaudits flooding in on Kioki. The question is have they seen him play away. I agree his power surges are welcome; I love it! These power surges are not so evident at away games. Even at FGR in the few surges he did invariably was lost in an over optimistic pass. Personally would not play him as a left back in a 442, possibly in a 3-5-2 but whether he has the quality of passing ability is debatable. Whilst his defensive duties in home games were energetically carried out but at FGR when their right midfield began to make in roads I thought Kioki looked a bit bemused by this aggressive play. Once with Lewis, he or both failed to dispossess an FGR player. The full backs should be of an unforgiving nature so shove Kioki into midfield to add some impetus there but he must learn to pass first.

So, to cut a long story short, what's the point you're trying to make?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 14, 2021, 14:50:17 pm
So, to cut a long story short, what's the point you're trying to make?
He cant do it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke.

or in this case a reasonably warm Saturday afternoon near Gloucester


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 14, 2021, 15:09:45 pm
Many plaudits flooding in on Kioki. The question is have they seen him play away. I agree his power surges are welcome; I love it! These power surges are not so evident at away games. Even at FGR in the few surges he did invariably was lost in an over optimistic pass. Personally would not play him as a left back in a 442, possibly in a 3-5-2 but whether he has the quality of passing ability is debatable. Whilst his defensive duties in home games were energetically carried out but at FGR when their right midfield began to make in roads I thought Kioki looked a bit bemused by this aggressive play. Once with Lewis, he or both failed to dispossess an FGR player. The full backs should be of an unforgiving nature so shove Kioki into midfield to add some impetus there but he must learn to pass first.

For those looking to dissect…

Many people have praised Kioki for his performances.

Neverbrite loves his power surges which are most welcome, but he doesn’t do them often enough away from home. Although he did make a few surges away from home at FGR but ended up losing the ball.

Neverbrite would not play him as LB in a 4 4 2. He would possibly play in in a 3 5 2, but possibly wouldn’t because of his passing ability.

He is has been very good defensively at home games, but at FGR he looked bemused when their RM looked to run down the line.

He shouldn’t be played as a LB so put him into midfield once he learns to pass. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on September 14, 2021, 15:44:01 pm
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-appoint-local-businessman-as-new-associate-director-3378717

For every Ivan Toney there are a hundred Glenville Donegal's, although he was a good addition to the school team. We played around him  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 14, 2021, 16:18:45 pm
He cant do it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke.

or in this case a reasonably warm Saturday afternoon near Gloucester

Where does Stoke fit in ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 14, 2021, 16:31:49 pm
For those looking to dissect…

Many people have praised Kioki for his performances.

Neverbrite loves his power surges which are most welcome, but he doesn’t do them often enough away from home. Although he did make a few surges away from home at FGR but ended up losing the ball.

Neverbrite would not play him as LB in a 4 4 2. He would possibly play in in a 3 5 2, but possibly wouldn’t because of his passing ability.

He is has been very good defensively at home games, but at FGR he looked bemused when their RM looked to run down the line.

He shouldn’t be played as a LB so put him into midfield once he learns to pass. 


As a matter of interest did you go to FGR game - that’s a polite question?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 14, 2021, 21:33:32 pm
Many plaudits flooding in on Kioki. The question is have they seen him play away. I agree his power surges are welcome; I love it! These power surges are not so evident at away games. Even at FGR in the few surges he did invariably was lost in an over optimistic pass. Personally would not play him as a left back in a 442, possibly in a 3-5-2 but whether he has the quality of passing ability is debatable. Whilst his defensive duties in home games were energetically carried out but at FGR when their right midfield began to make in roads I thought Kioki looked a bit bemused by this aggressive play. Once with Lewis, he or both failed to dispossess an FGR player. The full backs should be of an unforgiving nature so shove Kioki into midfield to add some impetus there but he must learn to pass first.

Well this aged really well. Well done  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 15, 2021, 09:03:56 am

Where does Stoke fit in ?
Don't worry about it. Football fans will have understood the reference


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: rebelspawn on September 15, 2021, 09:31:17 am
So, to cut a long story short, what's the point you're trying to make?

Koiki has looked good in most games so far, but he struggled a bit against FGR


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on September 15, 2021, 12:57:13 pm
For every Ivan Toney there are a hundred Glenville Donegal's, although he was a good addition to the school team. We played around him  ;D

I think I played against GD a few times.... Delapre? A bigger beast was Wayne Baptiste, physique 3 years above his year group. I can still see my mate writhing on the floor after he snapped his leg. Not deliberately..... but ouch.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on September 15, 2021, 13:22:59 pm
It's about time your mate got some attention, have you called for an ambulance?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on September 15, 2021, 13:28:21 pm
It's about time your mate got some attention, have you called for an ambulance?

haha. nah, cost me my place for a few matches cos I missed training to go visit him


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on September 19, 2021, 15:17:52 pm
Rumour circulating yesterday that the Villa lad, Dominic Raven, has been sent back because his fitness isn't up to the required standard. Also, we're trying to sign a free agent striker.

I wouldn't be surprised at the first rumour, but the second one I'm not so convinced about. We shall see.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on September 19, 2021, 15:45:19 pm
Shame that Alex Jones didn’t stay. I thought he looked decent.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 19, 2021, 16:04:20 pm
Rumour circulating yesterday that the Villa lad, Dominic Raven, has been sent back because his fitness isn't up to the required standard. Also, we're trying to sign a free agent striker.

I wouldn't be surprised at the first rumour, but the second one I'm not so convinced about. We shall see.
Told ya 😉


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 19, 2021, 16:57:44 pm
Don't worry about it. Football fans will have understood the reference

Not worried; just merely asked a question!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 19, 2021, 17:35:22 pm
Rumour circulating yesterday that the Villa lad, Dominic Raven, has been sent back because his fitness isn't up to the required standard. Also, we're trying to sign a free agent striker.

I wouldn't be surprised at the first rumour, but the second one I'm not so convinced about. We shall see.

On the striker bit - is it likely that Alex Jones has now decided to accept an offer from Jo Brady?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on September 19, 2021, 17:36:48 pm
Shame that Alex Jones didn’t stay. I thought he looked decent.
Agreed, who did he sign for?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on September 19, 2021, 17:51:29 pm
Agreed, who did he sign for?

Still without a club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on September 19, 2021, 17:54:39 pm
On the striker bit - is it likely that Alex Jones has now decided to accept an offer from Jo Brady?

I would be happy with that, but...who's Jo Brady  ??? ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 19, 2021, 18:23:51 pm
Still without a club.
Got to be worth a short term contract or pay as you play?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on September 19, 2021, 20:30:25 pm
If Alex Jones wanted to sign for us he would have accepted the invite to join pre season training...

He'll also take weeks to get match fit, so I'd rather we try and work with what we've got til January, unless there is a ready made match fit striker out there...which there ain't.

We should have got in that Tishimanga lad when we had the chance, been on fire since joining Chesterfield.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on September 19, 2021, 20:51:18 pm

We should have got in that Tishimanga lad when we had the chance, been on fire since joining Chesterfield.

100% Ragdoll. Whatever Chesterfield invested in him it’ll be doubled by Christmas and quadrupled by the end of the season.
I can only sleep at night by convincing myself that the rumours were wrong and we were never in with a sniff as Chesterfield broke the bank to get him.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 20, 2021, 08:20:16 am
100% Ragdoll. Whatever Chesterfield invested in him it’ll be doubled by Christmas and quadrupled by the end of the season.
I can only sleep at night by convincing myself that the rumours were wrong and we were never in with a sniff as Chesterfield broke the bank to get him.
We were interested in him but his wages for an unproven player were enormous and we backed out . Ended up with Kabamba who i watched warm up on saturday and he looked woeful in shooting practice - i mean , if he hadn’t got the club kit on , i would have thought he was the bloke that puts the cones out .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 20, 2021, 10:56:45 am
If Alex Jones wanted to sign for us he would have accepted the invite to join pre season training...

He'll also take weeks to get match fit, so I'd rather we try and work with what we've got til January, unless there is a ready made match fit striker out there...which there ain't.

We should have got in that Tishimanga lad when we had the chance, been on fire since joining Chesterfield.

Seems strange that Alex Jones turned down JBrady’s offer and is still without a club. Think you are probably right in suggesting that we stick with what we have. As for Tishimanga it’s all very well suggesting that we should have made an acceptable offer to him but who is going to bank roll the extra extortionate wages. Certainly not me, probably you too and perhaps many other supporters!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on September 20, 2021, 11:43:36 am
So we can be outbid by Chesterfield? I see he has scored 7 already and Smith is on 6 too.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 20, 2021, 13:48:52 pm
So we can be outbid by Chesterfield? I see he has scored 7 already and Smith is on 6 too.
Shoestring budget is what I heard.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on September 20, 2021, 17:13:39 pm
The only good thing about us not having Tshimanga is the fact that MK Dons had him in their setup for 12 years and ended up releasing him!!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 20, 2021, 20:20:29 pm
The only good thing about us not having Tshimanga is the fact that MK Dons had him in their setup for 12 years and ended up releasing him!!

Says it all really


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 21, 2021, 17:12:44 pm
Many plaudits flooding in on Kioki. The question is have they seen him play away. I agree his power surges are welcome; I love it! These power surges are not so evident at away games. Even at FGR in the few surges he did invariably was lost in an over optimistic pass. Personally would not play him as a left back in a 442, possibly in a 3-5-2 but whether he has the quality of passing ability is debatable. Whilst his defensive duties in home games were energetically carried out but at FGR when their right midfield began to make in roads I thought Kioki looked a bit bemused by this aggressive play. Once with Lewis, he or both failed to dispossess an FGR player. The full backs should be of an unforgiving nature so shove Kioki into midfield to add some impetus there but he must learn to pass first.

Nevers, I’ve just seen an interesting stat that Koiki has the best tackle success rate for 20+ tackles in the top 4 divisions at 91%. That certainly sounds like a pretty unforgiving full back to me!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 21, 2021, 19:44:56 pm
Nevers, I’ve just seen an interesting stat that Koiki has the best tackle success rate for 20+ tackles in the top 4 divisions at 91%. That certainly sounds like a pretty unforgiving full back to me!

So interesting you fail to detail actual source. Could be Keith or Raggie who supplied the ‘details’🤪


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 21, 2021, 19:55:36 pm
So we can be outbid by Chesterfield? I see he has scored 7 already and Smith is on 6 too.
on account of the fact they are supposed to have paid £250k for him , the answer is no we cannot compete with Chesterfield


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on September 21, 2021, 20:45:15 pm
So interesting you fail to detail actual source. Could be Keith or Raggie who supplied the ‘details’🤪

Saw it on Twitter also


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 21, 2021, 23:24:18 pm
Saw it on Twitter also

Oh - that’s ok then!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on September 22, 2021, 07:10:03 am
https://twitter.com/playmaker_en/status/1440298331045990406?s=21 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on September 22, 2021, 08:30:29 am
on account of the fact they are supposed to have paid £250k for him , the answer is no we cannot compete with Chesterfield
The Boreham Wood chairman described it as an ‘amazing transfer fee’ set with championship and league 1 clubs in mind.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 22, 2021, 08:58:05 am
The Boreham Wood chairman described it as an ‘amazing transfer fee’ set with championship and league 1 clubs in mind.
yep , £250k .
Plus his wages .
Chesterfield’s playing budget is very likely to be more than ours . Ours is £1.4 mill .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 09:20:46 am
https://twitter.com/playmaker_en/status/1440298331045990406?s=21 


Thanks Zen, interesting details but find Twitter football info somewhat controversial. My opinion is still he is suspect defensively at left back so would play him at left midfield! That’s were JB would play him when Mills returns!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 22, 2021, 09:29:48 am
yep , £250k .
Plus his wages .
Chesterfield’s playing budget is very likely to be more than ours . Ours is £1.4 mill .
Why would that be???

Have Chesterfield recouped nearly two million pounds in transfer fees and sell on clauses during the last couple of seasons???

Charlie Goode £1 million (plus an undisclosed promotion bonus payment)
Caleb chukwumeka 300,000 plus 150,000 for making his debut…
Carney chukwumeka (no idea what we received initially) £150,000 for making his debut.
Crooks 20% sell on fee of £300,000
Harry smith £75,000-£100,000 depending on which reports you read.

Roughly £2m incoming and a youth loan signing and a free transfer up front….

For all the talk about a new transfer model exactly how much are we hoping to make out of etete rose and kabamba?

Rose 50k if we are lucky
Etete on loan , no long term benefit whatsoever
Kabamba signed on a free and won’t be commanding a fee on what he’s done so far.

Is that a fair assessment in other posters opinion??

Meanwhile Chesterfield have spent £250,000 and I fully expect their striker to move for £1 million plus come the end of the season (plus add ons)

Exactly what is this new transfer policy??

To recoup as much of the £7m debt as possible without buying strikers who will be of long term benefit to the club and instead doing everything on the cheap just as before.

If the club are trying to convince the council of their long term strategy for growth off the pitch then the councillors could do well to look at the lack of ambition on the pitch before making any decisions…




Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 09:43:16 am
The Boreham Wood chairman described it as an ‘amazing transfer fee’ set with championship and league 1 clubs in mind.

So he went to a Non League Club who were prepared to meet his demands! Find it a little odd that Peterborough apparently did not get involved! Along with a host of League Clubs we missed out, some of whom have bigger resources than we do! We shall see as they say on here!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on September 22, 2021, 09:44:56 am
Do we want the club ran sustainably or do we want to add to the 'debt'?

I would rather it is run sustainably.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 22, 2021, 09:45:39 am
How much is the risk worth? If as you say they will quadruple their money in a year then its a risk worth taking. But didn't work with Matty Warburton or Leon Lobjoit. Lots of people use P*sh as an example too... Ricky Miller

Its bold to sign a non league striker for £250k but comes with a lot of risk too. When its not your money its easy to make the decision.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 09:49:35 am
Why would that be???

Have Chesterfield recouped nearly two million pounds in transfer fees and sell on clauses during the last couple of seasons???

Charlie Goode £1 million (plus an undisclosed promotion bonus payment)
Caleb chukwumeka 300,000 plus 150,000 for making his debut…
Carney chukwumeka (no idea what we received initially) £150,000 for making his debut.
Crooks 20% sell on fee of £300,000
Harry smith £75,000-£100,000 depending on which reports you read.

Roughly £2m incoming and a youth loan signing and a free transfer up front….

For all the talk about a new transfer model exactly how much are we hoping to make out of etete rose and kabamba?

Rose 50k if we are lucky
Etete on loan , no long term benefit whatsoever
Kabamba signed on a free and won’t be commanding a fee on what he’s done so far.

Is that a fair assessment in other posters opinion??

Meanwhile Chesterfield have spent £250,000 and I fully expect their striker to move for £1 million plus come the end of the season (plus add ons)

Exactly what is this new transfer policy??

To recoup as much of the £7m debt as possible without buying strikers who will be of long term benefit to the club and instead doing everything on the cheap just as before.

If the club are trying to convince the council of their long term strategy for growth off the pitch then the councillors could do well to look at the lack of ambition on the pitch before making any decisions…


The trouble with that Shoey is that it reeks of anti club perspective. Not one word on outgoings?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: threeinabed on September 22, 2021, 09:58:01 am
How much is the risk worth? If as you say they will quadruple their money in a year then its a risk worth taking. But didn't work with Matty Warburton or Leon Lobjoit. Lots of people use P*sh as an example too... Ricky Miller

Its bold to sign a non league striker for £250k but comes with a lot of risk too. When its not your money its easy to make the decision.


i think we signed warburton and LL from lower divisions when they werent in demand at all - they were proper gambles.

clearly there was a lot of interest in the lad chesterfield bought and its paying dividends for them at the minute for taking the gamble

that said, orient have harry smith scoring for fun as well and very few on here rated him (until this season when everyone pretends they did as he scores elsewhere)

as the late great man said "its a funny old game"


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 10:18:23 am
Do we want the club ran sustainably or do we want to add to the 'debt'?

I would rather it is run sustainably.

People are so adventurous with other peoples money 8) To me the fact that many L1 clubs opted out of meeting the players demands is not an amazing coincidence!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 22, 2021, 11:32:06 am
Do we want the club ran sustainably or do we want to add to the 'debt'?

I would rather it is run sustainably.

Too late, we have almost £7m in debt but hey we have Danny Rose to show for it.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 22, 2021, 11:35:43 am
The trouble with that Shoey is that it reeks of anti club perspective. Not one word on outgoings?


STOP SHOOTING THE BLOODY MESSENGER. 

again these are facts, (well almost as we don't know the exact numbers involved but seem accepted by the masses)

It is very difficult to post any facts without them being anti-club as the owners are anti-club and very much pro-themselves. Our transfer dealings highlight it perfectly

How many videos has KT done talking about this influx on transfer fees and how we are even going to spend 1p of it?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on September 22, 2021, 11:40:49 am
Thanks Zen, interesting details but find Twitter football info somewhat controversial. My opinion is still he is suspect defensively at left back so would play him at left midfield! That’s were JB would play him when Mills returns!

So interesting you fail to detail actual source. Did JB tell you this?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 11:50:29 am
STOP SHOOTING THE BLOODY MESSENGER. 

again these are facts, (well almost as we don't know the exact numbers involved but seem accepted by the masses)

It is very difficult to post any facts without them being anti-club as the owners are anti-club and very much pro-themselves. Our transfer dealings highlight it perfectly

How many videos has KT done talking about this influx on transfer fees and how we are even going to spend 1p of it?

It’s your opinion , are you trying to tell me that your opinions are fair minded, factual and not anti NTFC representatives. I know Shoey of old so not shooting the messenger but suggesting that he failed to mention outgoings?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 12:03:51 pm
So interesting you fail to detail actual source. Did JB tell you this?

Oh Lord the Blood Red Highlighter.
That’s a daft comment with all the hallmarks of a limited opinion! To put into context the Manager clearly thinks more of Mills than you do; so it stands to reason that Mills when fit will resume at left back! Deservedly so.If you keep up this meaningless trolling be prepared to face the consequences. FYIO I generally disagree with your opinions and no amount of trolling / hassling will change that.  Suggest you get the point!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 22, 2021, 12:17:54 pm
it’s no surprise Chesterfield have a higher budget than us - add to that at least Notts County and Wrexham as well as probably another 4 or 5 clubs in the National League .
Wrexham probably have a bigger budget than any other club in division 2.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Tabasco Kid on September 22, 2021, 12:55:17 pm

Wrexham probably have a bigger budget than any other club in division 2.
Not doing them much good though.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 22, 2021, 13:24:36 pm
It’s your opinion , are you trying to tell me that your opinions are fair minded, factual and not anti NTFC representatives. I know Shoey of old so not shooting the messenger but suggesting that he failed to mention outgoings?
Outgoings??
Granted I don’t know how much Chesterfield have raked in via transfer fees but I bet it’s not nearly £2m pounds in the last two years

Given we have similar crowds etc as regards income can someone explain how we reinvest £0 on strikers with a view to the long term future despite £2m being received and Chesterfield can bid £250,000 (no idea if that’s correct) on a young forward who will earn them ££££.

There is NO long term planning off the pitch and no long term planning on it

Our trumped up transfer policy with whistles and bells equals the grand sum of bugger all (yet again)

If it’s true that vadaine Oliver was on £500 a week then we are paying non league wages to some members of the squad.

I was told the other day that we had a striker in for talks but refused to pay a grand a week so the player didn’t sign….(I’m sure somebody more knowledgeable than me can confirm if this is right)
IF true can someone explain what is actually going on at the club….

Bayo was on far more than a grand a week and that was years ago…..

Are we actually going forwards under the current owners??

This isn’t anti club but the transfer dealings speak for themselves.

Why should I believe as a fan that the benefits to the club from the land and a few seats will amount to anything when it’s as clear as day there is little investment in the future of the club ON the field.





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 14:49:29 pm
Outgoings??
Granted I don’t know how much Chesterfield have raked in via transfer fees but I bet it’s not nearly £2m pounds in the last two years

Given we have similar crowds etc as regards income can someone explain how we reinvest £0 on strikers with a view to the long term future despite £2m being received and Chesterfield can bid £250,000 (no idea if that’s correct) on a young forward who will earn them ££££.

There is NO long term planning off the pitch and no long term planning on it

Our trumped up transfer policy with whistles and bells equals the grand sum of bugger all (yet again)

If it’s true that vadaine Oliver was on £500 a week then we are paying non league wages to some members of the squad.

I was told the other day that we had a striker in for talks but refused to pay a grand a week so the player didn’t sign….(I’m sure somebody more knowledgeable than me can confirm if this is right)
IF true can someone explain what is actually going on at the club….

Bayo was on far more than a grand a week and that was years ago…..

Are we actually going forwards under the current owners??

This isn’t anti club but the transfer dealings speak for themselves.

Why should I believe as a fan that the benefits to the club from the land and a few seats will amount to anything when it’s as clear as day there is little investment in the future of the club ON the field.


Yet we are currently doing well in L2 on a so called shoestring budget. Bet quite a few clubs in L2 would appreciate similar attendances, budget and high profile Loanee like 'Ete.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 22, 2021, 14:52:52 pm
It’s your opinion , are you trying to tell me that your opinions are fair minded, factual and not anti NTFC representatives. I know Shoey of old so not shooting the messenger but suggesting that he failed to mention outgoings?

most of my "opinions" are based around the facts.

The recent presentation was very much fact based, you just don't like what is says and what light it puts NTFC and it's owners, believe me I really wish it was different.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on September 22, 2021, 15:09:03 pm
It's all speculation though, isn't it? Nobody knows what the wages are, what even the wage bill is, or certainly what other clubs wage bills are. The Goode money was great, but was almost immediately undone by the lack of crowds the following years. The money for a kids is a welcome benefit, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was budgeted for the loan singing of Etete (also, not saying that would be the smart thing to do with the money either, but Premiership kids are on astronomical amounts, so if we've covering even a percantage of his wage it'd be a lot).

None of them are facts because we're all left in the dark on football finances which isn't great... however, that's also pretty standard for every time in the league.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 22, 2021, 15:48:20 pm
most of my "opinions" are based around the facts.

The recent presentation was very much fact based, you just don't like what is says and what light it puts NTFC and it's owners, believe me I really wish it was different.*



* That's the difference - you like to speak on my behalf. You have no idea what I think about the current situation. It also appears that my interpretation of 'facts' is somewhat different from yours. Not sure if your continuing posturing as a Trust Board Member and your presentation of 'facts' is helping your cause?
A renowned Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius quoted " “Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. Some of this is true on here, me included. So when sticking to your 'facts' bear this quote in mind.
'


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 22, 2021, 16:27:53 pm
Yet we are currently doing well in L2 on a so called shoestring budget. Bet quite a few clubs in L2 would appreciate similar attendances, budget and high profile Loanee like 'Ete.
He needs to start scoring to be the envy of other clubs….
How much will we sell him for at the end of the season??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on September 22, 2021, 16:34:05 pm
If we make the playoffs and secure promotion that way or outright that will be pay off enough.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 23, 2021, 06:51:49 am
Outgoings??
Granted I don’t know how much Chesterfield have raked in via transfer fees but I bet it’s not nearly £2m pounds in the last two years

Given we have similar crowds etc as regards income can someone explain how we reinvest £0 on strikers with a view to the long term future despite £2m being received and Chesterfield can bid £250,000 (no idea if that’s correct) on a young forward who will earn them ££££.

There is NO long term planning off the pitch and no long term planning on it

Our trumped up transfer policy with whistles and bells equals the grand sum of bugger all (yet again)

If it’s true that vadaine Oliver was on £500 a week then we are paying non league wages to some members of the squad.

I was told the other day that we had a striker in for talks but refused to pay a grand a week so the player didn’t sign….(I’m sure somebody more knowledgeable than me can confirm if this is right)
IF true can someone explain what is actually going on at the club….

Bayo was on far more than a grand a week and that was years ago…..

Are we actually going forwards under the current owners??

This isn’t anti club but the transfer dealings speak for themselves.

Why should I believe as a fan that the benefits to the club from the land and a few seats will amount to anything when it’s as clear as day there is little investment in the future of the club ON the field.





you have answered your own question.
The reason money is not chucked speculatively at the team is because others that have done so have not necessarily had success . Look at the clubs in the National League mentioned above for a start .
Then look at clubs with moderate budgets that have done well - Accrington , Wimbledon , ourselves a few times .
We have a budget that is way below half way in our division and would be middle to upper ground in the national league probably .
Most of our players will be on between £1300 and £1800 a week with a few on a bit more .
Many teams will be paying £3k to £4k a week for some players .
There is little between teams in our division and it’s more about team spirit and organisation than anything else .
Admittedly you can’t get away with it in division 1 as we have found out many times .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on September 23, 2021, 07:07:20 am
you have answered your own question.
The reason money is not chucked speculatively at the team is because others that have done so have not necessarily had success . Look at the clubs in the National League mentioned above for a start .
Then look at clubs with moderate budgets that have done well - Accrington , Wimbledon , ourselves a few times .
We have a budget that is way below half way in our division and would be middle to upper ground in the national league probably .
Most of our players will be on between £1300 and £1800 a week with a few on a bit more .
Many teams will be paying £3k to £4k a week for some players .
There is little between teams in our division and it’s more about team spirit and organisation than anything else .
Admittedly you can’t get away with it in division 1 as we have found out many times .

Don't Accrington and Wimbledon prove you can get away with it in league one?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 23, 2021, 07:11:14 am
you have answered your own question.
The reason money is not chucked speculatively at the team is because others that have done so have not necessarily had success . Look at the clubs in the National League mentioned above for a start .
Then look at clubs with moderate budgets that have done well - Accrington , Wimbledon , ourselves a few times .
We have a budget that is way below half way in our division and would be middle to upper ground in the national league probably .
Most of our players will be on between £1300 and £1800 a week with a few on a bit more .
Many teams will be paying £3k to £4k a week for some players .
There is little between teams in our division and it’s more about team spirit and organisation than anything else .
Admittedly you can’t get away with it in division 1 as we have found out many times .


I like that answer B&S. ;)
It's also probably about having confidence in whoever you are intending to give 'your' money to.
If Chris Wilder had stayed with us into League One, would the confidence in his ability have rolled over into him being provided a higher budget than Rob Page was given?

If Jon Brady promotes us this season and stays with us, will he be provided with an increased budget to at least give him a fighting chance of consolidating in League One if, as it appears currently, he has the confidence of the Board to spend and use it wisely?

Was Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe given a similar 'confidence' budgetary opportunity for League One over any new manager that may have come in?
By 'over achieving' and getting promotion to the Championship, did that stretch their financial resources just too far to sustain Championship football? By virtue of that, they were then able to enjoy their 'Season in the Sun' without too much expectation?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 23, 2021, 07:14:02 am
It’s worth pointing out boot that it was mentioned at the time that vadaine Oliver was on £500 quid a week (I’m sure those in the know can clarify)
That’s a long way off of the bottom end mark of £1300….
Rumours of not paying a potential new signing £1000 a week may or may not be true (again I’m sure others can clarify).
A point I do agree with is that under the current ownership we cannot sustain/afford league one football.
This begs the question, why bother getting promoted??

Can anyone tell me what the owners would do differently at their third crack at league one football if we were to go up?
I said prior to last years feeble attempt with a league two squad that we would go straight back down.
Even the chairman admitted they needed outside investment (ah the old Chinese investment mystery) to be able to compete at league one level.
The crux is imo the owners have taken us as far as they can and I don’t know how much proof other posters need before they realise this.

It’s almost disheartening to think of promotion under the current board
I’ve said it before we are the Norwich of league two.

Ok in our own league but cannon fodder and a waste of time being promoted (and unlike norwich we don’t get parachute payments)
So what exactly is the point in promotion and can someone confirm that if we were to go up we would have a proper attempt at staying there next time???

Again not anti club but facts regards our attempts to compete in the league above.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 23, 2021, 07:28:50 am

Again not anti club but facts regards our attempts to compete in the league above.

Yes (and not anti Shoemaker), but 'facts' according to Shoemaker which you admit with your consistent "I'm sure others can clarify" behind the majority of your statements.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 23, 2021, 08:08:51 am
Yes (and not anti Shoemaker), but 'facts' according to Shoemaker which you admit with your consistent "I'm sure others can clarify" behind the majority of your statements.
In fairness I think the £500 a week vadaine Oliver statement was posted on here by another Forumites at the time.
As regards the player not being paid £1000 a week it was something relayed to me the other week (there ARE people on here who’d know if that is correct or not)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on September 23, 2021, 08:11:21 am
It’s worth pointing out boot that it was mentioned at the time that vadaine Oliver was on £500 quid a week (I’m sure those in the know can clarify)
That’s a long way off of the bottom end mark of £1300….
Rumours of not paying a potential new signing £1000 a week may or may not be true (again I’m sure others can clarify).
A point I do agree with is that under the current ownership we cannot sustain/afford league one football.
This begs the question, why bother getting promoted??

Can anyone tell me what the owners would do differently at their third crack at league one football if we were to go up?
I said prior to last years feeble attempt with a league two squad that we would go straight back down.
Even the chairman admitted they needed outside investment (ah the old Chinese investment mystery) to be able to compete at league one level.
The crux is imo the owners have taken us as far as they can and I don’t know how much proof other posters need before they realise this.

It’s almost disheartening to think of promotion under the current board
I’ve said it before we are the Norwich of league two.

Ok in our own league but cannon fodder and a waste of time being promoted (and unlike norwich we don’t get parachute payments)
So what exactly is the point in promotion and can someone confirm that if we were to go up we would have a proper attempt at staying there next time???

Again not anti club but facts regards our attempts to compete in the league above.

without going into great detail , it’s true that some players have been on relatively low money but remember , people like Oliver and Lloyd Jones had come to a dead end within their careers and this club gave them a lifeline , albeit on lower than average wages at the time .
There are others who have come here with a reputation and they haven’t delivered who are on arguably too much money . That is football up and down the country , whoever your team is .
Some of the clubs that we would consider to be our peers pay players much more than we do , especially in division 1.
The other thing to consider is loan players - by far the majority of their wages is paid by the parent club - the money the youngsters are paid is enormous and we may pay an eighth or a quarter of it .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 23, 2021, 08:18:38 am
In fairness I think the £500 a week vadaine Oliver statement was posted on here by another Forumites at the time.
As regards the player not being paid £1000 a week it was something relayed to me the other week (there ARE people on here who’d know if that is correct or not)

Agree, but there are a lot of facts that are created by the 'facts' posted on here that haven't the substance of hard evidence behind those original 'facts'. 
It is sometimes(often) very difficult to distinguish between the two. 
But it adds to the amusement of this board when observing and reading whilst keeping that in mind, unless they have the potential to cause collateral and/or significant damage.  ;) ;D 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 23, 2021, 08:26:52 am
without going into great detail , it’s true that some players have been on relatively low money but remember , people like Oliver and Lloyd Jones had come to a dead end within their careers and this club gave them a lifeline , albeit on lower than average wages at the time .
There are others who have come here with a reputation and they haven’t delivered who are on arguably too much money . That is football up and down the country , whoever your team is .
Some of the clubs that we would consider to be our peers pay players much more than we do , especially in division 1.
The other thing to consider is loan players - by far the majority of their wages is paid by the parent club - the money the youngsters are paid is enormous and we may pay an eighth or a quarter of it .
Fair comment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on September 23, 2021, 08:29:33 am
Agree, but there are a lot of facts that are created by the 'facts' posted on here that haven't the substance of hard evidence behind those original 'facts'. 
It is sometimes(often) very difficult to distinguish between the two. 
But it adds to the amusement of this board when observing and reading whilst keeping that in mind, unless they have the potential to cause collateral and/or significant damage.  ;) ;D 
Fair comment.
I’m not privy to what players earn and I’m just going by other forum members posts.
I can’t see why anyone would post earnings as fact if they were guessing…
Mind you on this forum who knows ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on September 23, 2021, 08:30:41 am
Fair comment.
I’m not privy to what players earn and I’m just going by other forum members posts.
I can’t see why anyone would post earnings as fact if they were guessing…
Mind you on this forum who knows ;D

Exactly. It's why I steer clear of doing so. :)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 23, 2021, 08:32:52 am
* That's the difference - you like to speak on my behalf. You have no idea what I think about the current situation. It also appears that my interpretation of 'facts' is somewhat different from yours. Not sure if your continuing posturing as a Trust Board Member and your presentation of 'facts' is helping your cause?
A renowned Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius quoted " “Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. Some of this is true on here, me included. So when sticking to your 'facts' bear this quote in mind.
'

How and where am I speaking on your behalf?

Can you tell me what wasn't FACT (or a reasonable assumption based upon said facts) in the presentation?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 23, 2021, 08:40:15 am
Just like transfer fees, budgets and wages are taken from a variety of "calculations"

Within reason, it's all a bit irrelevant isn't it.

Plenty of examples of high fees and budget producing nothing and bargain basements achieving 13 point Championship winning margins. (ok not by 13 points !)

Is it a coincidence that strikers and creative players costing the most money, that under KT ownership (after CW) we must be close to the lowest scorers in the bottom 2 leagues in the last 5 years?

This makes it even harder and even more expense to attract those players as NTFC is a graveyard for such players. As a striker, would you seriously sign for us? 





Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: yayo bayo on September 23, 2021, 08:54:48 am
Lloyd Jones was on 800 quid a week and Alan Sheehan was on 350 week but the club was paying for his coaching badges


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 23, 2021, 08:56:28 am

Can you tell me what wasn't FACT (or a reasonable assumption based upon said facts) in the presentation?

The best quote since 'alternative facts'


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on September 23, 2021, 09:03:16 am
Lloyd Jones was on 800 quid a week and Alan Sheehan was on 350 week but the club was paying for his coaching badges
350 quid? Those coaching badges must be fcuking expensive if he came here for what must amount to not a lot more than minimum wage.
(Not a fact, more an application of thought processes 😁).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 23, 2021, 09:04:20 am

Can you tell me what wasn't FACT (or a reasonable assumption based upon said facts) in the presentation?

From the executive summary...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion
Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion
£6m + Debt To Owners - fact
£3m Spend For 202 Seats and 8 or 18 Executives Boxes - we havent seen the costings, as the Trust have pointed out, so more opinion but will go with fact as thats the number thats been mentioned alot
Original Footprint Must Not Be Lost - opinion
No Plans No Ambition No Future - opinion
Owners Likely To Repay Themselves 1st Out Of Any Deal - opinion
Total Dependence On One Individual As Source Of Finance - incorrect (use of word 'total' means this isnt fact)

It appears that the current proposed deal best serves the short-term interests of its overseas owners, leaving the club with an inadequate stand and hemmed in by industrial units - opinion


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on September 23, 2021, 09:15:20 am
From the executive summary...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion
Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion
£6m + Debt To Owners - fact
£3m Spend For 202 Seats and 8 or 18 Executives Boxes - we havent seen the costings, as the Trust have pointed out, so more opinion but will go with fact as thats the number thats been mentioned alot
Original Footprint Must Not Be Lost - opinion
No Plans No Ambition No Future - opinion
Owners Likely To Repay Themselves 1st Out Of Any Deal - opinion
Total Dependence On One Individual As Source Of Finance - incorrect (use of word 'total' means this isnt fact)

It appears that the current proposed deal best serves the short-term interests of its overseas owners, leaving the club with an inadequate stand and hemmed in by industrial units - opinion

And isn't your last paragraph what is dividing the support? There is not sufficient transparency in all of this?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 23, 2021, 09:35:37 am
How and where am I speaking on your behalf?

Can you tell me what wasn't FACT (or a reasonable assumption based upon said facts) in the presentation?


Your perception and obsessive fascination with your ‘facts’ are at odds with some NTFC Fans on here. Clearly your  perception of ‘facts’ whilst meat and drink too you, don't appear to be generally shared.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 23, 2021, 09:45:12 am
From the executive summary...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion
Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion
£6m + Debt To Owners - fact
£3m Spend For 202 Seats and 8 or 18 Executives Boxes - we havent seen the costings, as the Trust have pointed out, so more opinion but will go with fact as thats the number thats been mentioned alot
Original Footprint Must Not Be Lost - opinion
No Plans No Ambition No Future - opinion
Owners Likely To Repay Themselves 1st Out Of Any Deal - opinion
Total Dependence On One Individual As Source Of Finance - incorrect (use of word 'total' means this isnt fact)

It appears that the current proposed deal best serves the short-term interests of its overseas owners, leaving the club with an inadequate stand and hemmed in by industrial units - opinion

All that is just your opinion 😂


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 23, 2021, 09:50:03 am
All that is just your opinion 😂
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
Mark Twain

 ;)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 23, 2021, 10:41:03 am
The best quote since 'alternative facts'

 ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 23, 2021, 11:20:01 am
From the executive summary...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion.    No it is fact what part is opinion?  Someone selling the club without telling supporters is a lack of transparency?
Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion.  Ok where is the detail?
£6m + Debt To Owners - fact
£3m Spend For 202 Seats and 8 or 18 Executives Boxes - we havent seen the costings, as the Trust have pointed out, so more opinion but will go with fact as thats the number thats been mentioned alot. Sorry you might not but I have !! it is £3m max
Original Footprint Must Not Be Lost - opinion
No Plans No Ambition No Future - opinion.  ok show me the evidence of plans, ambition and our future
Owners Likely To Repay Themselves 1st Out Of Any Deal - opinion
Total Dependence On One Individual As Source Of Finance - incorrect (use of word 'total' means this isnt fact)

It appears that the current proposed deal best serves the short-term interests of its overseas owners, leaving the club with an inadequate stand and hemmed in by industrial units - opinion



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on September 23, 2021, 11:23:27 am
Ok...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion.
Lack of Transparency over the Chinese sale - fact

Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion.
Lack of Details On SOMETHINGS - fact


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 23, 2021, 11:23:38 am
OK Woody,

Lowest capacity of any league club established for 20 year. FACT

7 managers since KT arrived FACT

I could go on and on and on and on.

What's you take on the FACT that we are worse off now that when KT took over?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest168 on September 23, 2021, 11:26:27 am
Ok...

Lack of Transparency - eg: Chinese Sale - opinion.
Lack of Transparency over the Chinese sale - fact

Lack of Details On EVERYTHING - opinion.
Lack of Details On SOMETHINGS - fact

Ok thanks Woody, but with the situation the club is in, you choose to nitpick some 'facts' rather than question the owners on their behaviour and the future of your football club


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on September 23, 2021, 11:54:32 am

What's you take on the FACT that we are worse off now that when KT took over?


Are we?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on September 23, 2021, 12:19:50 pm
It’s worth pointing out boot that it was mentioned at the time that vadaine Oliver was on £500 quid a week (I’m sure those in the know can clarify)
That’s a long way off of the bottom end mark of £1300….
Rumours of not paying a potential new signing £1000 a week may or may not be true (again I’m sure others can clarify).
A point I do agree with is that under the current ownership we cannot sustain/afford league one football.
This begs the question, why bother getting promoted??

Can anyone tell me what the owners would do differently at their third crack at league one football if we were to go up?
I said prior to last years feeble attempt with a league two squad that we would go straight back down.
Even the chairman admitted they needed outside investment (ah the old Chinese investment mystery) to be able to compete at league one level.
The crux is imo the owners have taken us as far as they can and I don’t know how much proof other posters need before they realise this.

It’s almost disheartening to think of promotion under the current board
I’ve said it before we are the Norwich of league two.

Ok in our own league but cannon fodder and a waste of time being promoted (and unlike norwich we don’t get parachute payments)
So what exactly is the point in promotion and can someone confirm that if we were to go up we would have a proper attempt at staying there next time???

Again not anti club but facts regards our attempts to compete in the league above.

Firstly, good to see you've re-merged!  :)

I will respond to one question you've posed...what would the owners do differently if they get a third stab at league one?

I think, in balance its fair to make the following points. The first relegation happened when we had at least a top half of league1 budget. The money was spent very badly, we all know that, but its unfair to say that we didn't compete financially, because we more than did! Where that money came from by the way is irrelevant to this specific topic, but transfer fees and inflated wages were thrown about and it didn't end well.

The 2nd time, we lost 5 key players for a variety of different reasons, this coincided with COVID19. Two of those players were on loan. One we sold to Brentford. One was a crock and about 40.  I think its fair to say that we were ill-equipped to give league1 a decent bash, and I don't think its fair to blame the owners for this. The biggest error (hindight much of it) was playing chicken with our rivals with regards to Oliver. If we'd kept him, I reckon we would have scraped enough points and we would still be in league1.

If we were to gain promotion this time round, it would be the first time under the current owners that we would likely to be going into the next league, all things equal. And with the same manager who got us there, but without the baggage that Curle had (who was not overly liked by a lot of our fans). So we may just get a bit of a bounce from it all.

Longer term, we would need to develop additional income streams to be successful, we all know that. But that's an entirely different topic. By all means continue to raise your many points with regards to us not spending £ on strikers etc, but be a bit more balanced with it all, then your points would have far more credibility attached to them!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 23, 2021, 13:05:57 pm
Who would you blame for us going into last season ill equipped?
The buck stops with our owners end of.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on September 23, 2021, 13:31:11 pm
Firstly, good to see you've re-merged!  :)

I will respond to one question you've posed...what would the owners do differently if they get a third stab at league one?

I think, in balance its fair to make the following points. The first relegation happened when we had at least a top half of league1 budget. The money was spent very badly, we all know that, but its unfair to say that we didn't compete financially, because we more than did! Where that money came from by the way is irrelevant to this specific topic, but transfer fees and inflated wages were thrown about and it didn't end well.

The 2nd time, we lost 5 key players for a variety of different reasons, this coincided with COVID19. Two of those players were on loan. One we sold to Brentford. One was a crock and about 40.  I think its fair to say that we were ill-equipped to give league1 a decent bash, and I don't think its fair to blame the owners for this. The biggest error (hindight much of it) was playing chicken with our rivals with regards to Oliver. If we'd kept him, I reckon we would have scraped enough points and we would still be in league1.

If we were to gain promotion this time round, it would be the first time under the current owners that we would likely to be going into the next league, all things equal. And with the same manager who got us there, but without the baggage that Curle had (who was not overly liked by a lot of our fans). So we may just get a bit of a bounce from it all.

Longer term, we would need to develop additional income streams to be successful, we all know that. But that's an entirely different topic. By all means continue to raise your many points with regards to us not spending £ on strikers etc, but be a bit more balanced with it all, then your points would have far more credibility attached to them!

Great post.  The thing is as with everything in life there are nuances and details in every circumstance that create the outcome.  Things sometimes just aren't black and white in the way some people want to see them.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 23, 2021, 13:42:41 pm
Great post.  The thing is as with everything in life there are nuances and details in every circumstance that create the outcome.  Things sometimes just aren't black and white in the way some people want to see them.
What your missing is the common denominator, it’s the job of the board to plan for the nuances and details, it’s because of their spectacular failure to prepare and then to properly manage the situation is the reason why we have failed twice under their tenure.
I guess it’s no surprise when the running of the club comes as a poor relation to a round of golf!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on September 23, 2021, 13:44:09 pm
Who would you blame for us going into last season ill equipped?
The buck stops with our owners end of.

The manager has a fantastic transfer window the previous summer resulting in a promotion, he’s then given money for transfer fees and bar the signings of Horsfall and Kioso his transfers are a complete disaster and the team get relegated.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on September 23, 2021, 13:52:40 pm
The manager has a fantastic transfer window the previous summer resulting in a promotion, he’s then given money for transfer fees and bar the signings of Horsfall and Kioso his transfers are a complete disaster and the team get relegated.
Agreed but as a chairman there’s a point where you have to be a bit hands on.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gazman on September 23, 2021, 13:58:03 pm
Who would you blame for us going into last season ill equipped?
The buck stops with our owners end of.

I think its hard to judge on last year, we went up after an early end to the season saw us scrape into the playoffs, there was so much uncertainty in football at that time with no indication crowds would be coming back into stadiums which would have had such a massive impact on income from this and sponsors. The club may have waved the white flag in terms of maintaining league 1 status but they kept the club afloat with no sign we were ever in danger when other clubs were publicly announcing they were close to othe wire

And for anyone to say we are no better off than before the current regime came in is off their t1ts. If they hadnt come in there is the real possibility the club wouldnt exist now


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on September 23, 2021, 14:03:03 pm
What your missing is the common denominator, it’s the job of the board to plan for the nuances and details, it’s because of their spectacular failure to prepare and then to properly manage the situation is the reason why we have failed twice under their tenure.
I guess it’s no surprise when the running of the club comes as a poor relation to a round of golf!

I think you are right to an extent and is why I genuinely don't mind if we don't go up this year as I don't think we are prepared as a club for that level yet.

What I'm saying is you want to simply blame the owners.  Look at the summer we had when we went up last time.  A season that was laready delayed, promoted through the play offs so even more delay with a team that wasn't league one ready in any shape or form.  We were in the middle of a global pandemic with no end in sight, no sign of future income and how that looked, sold our best defender and our strike force.

Now some say sign better players.  Get in a 20 goal a season striker, creative midfielder etc.  but on the other hand the same people moan about the 6 mill debt.  As Drilling said look at the previous promotion when we did go for it financially.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Charlatan on September 23, 2021, 14:21:11 pm
Is there news of any signings?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on September 23, 2021, 14:32:15 pm
On the topic of us being "outbid" by Chesterfield, I liken it to my views on housing.

Around where I live there are a lot of new houses springing up that are bigger, arguably nicer and certainly a lot more expensive than mine. I earn a pretty decent salary and I occasionally find myself wondering what jobs all these people do that allows them to afford these houses when I can't.

The truth is though, I actually could afford them, I'm just not prepared to be mortgaged up to the hilt. I'm mortgage free, which gives me and my family a massive degree of security and a good chunk of disposable income. To me, they are more important to me than owning a bigger house. Other people make a different choice and that's their prerogative, it's purely a case of priorities, but if those people lose their jobs or find themselves unable to work they could see it all come crashing down around them. Risk and reward, I guess.

I suspect Chesterfield have pushed the boat out in the hope their new player does the business and they make a big profit. They may well do so and fair play to them if they do, but equally he could break his leg in his next match or do his ACL in training and then they are stuck with his salary.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on September 23, 2021, 15:27:10 pm
I think its hard to judge on last year, we went up after an early end to the season saw us scrape into the playoffs, there was so much uncertainty in football at that time with no indication crowds would be coming back into stadiums which would have had such a massive impact on income from this and sponsors. The club may have waved the white flag in terms of maintaining league 1 status but they kept the club afloat with no sign we were ever in danger when other clubs were publicly announcing they were close to othe wire

And for anyone to say we are no better off than before the current regime came in is off their t1ts. If they hadnt come in there is the real possibility the club wouldnt exist now


Good old Gazman - your last sentence says it all 8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 02, 2021, 20:29:26 pm
10 games in I’d be very interested to hear thoughts on our summer recruits…

For me 2 good signings Roberts and Guthrie from 11/12.

Who is to blame? How many players didn’t JB / CC know of beforehand?

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock
The lad from Villa?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: cobbler151 on October 02, 2021, 20:49:17 pm
Roberts
Guthrie

Top signings

McGowan and Koiki are OK

The rest .....awful


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on October 02, 2021, 21:06:58 pm
10 games in I’d be very interested to hear thoughts on our summer recruits…

For me 2 good signings Roberts and Guthrie from 11/12.

Who is to blame? How many players didn’t JB / CC know of beforehand?

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock
The lad from Villa?


I've changed my mind about McGowan, he's worth a contract as is Koiki. Lewis looks like he could still get better to me.
Agree with Roberts and Guthrie
Not seen enough of Nelson, Connolly.
Pinnock started well but has gone missing and needs to turn it round quickly.
Kambamba is not upto it
Villa lad, who?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 02, 2021, 21:51:36 pm
I've changed my mind about McGowan, he's worth a contract as is Koiki. Lewis looks like he could still get better to me.
Agree with Roberts and Guthrie
Not seen enough of Nelson, Connolly.
Pinnock started well but has gone missing and needs to turn it round quickly.
Kambamba is not upto it
Villa lad, who?


On deadline day we signed a lad called Dominic Raven on loan from
Villa. A full back / CB.

I assume we scouted him beforehand but he hasn’t made a match day squad since signing!?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: tcobb on October 02, 2021, 22:19:43 pm
Koiki, is not a full back. Left sided midfielder yes, never a full back /wingback. Way to many costly mistake in defence, needs to be released from that position ASAP and replaced with a defender who knows how to defend.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3338 on October 02, 2021, 22:22:29 pm
On deadline day we signed a lad called Dominic Raven on loan from
Villa. A full back / CB.

I assume we scouted him beforehand but he hasn’t made a match day squad since signing!?
I realized that, hence 'who?' !


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on October 03, 2021, 02:10:24 am

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock
The lad from Villa?



Etete is missing from the list

Pretty much agree only Guthrie, Roberts and to an extent McGowan have impressed.

Also Sowerby and Rose who were signed for fees to play at league 1 level, were poor last year, hardly look any better at league 2 level.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 03, 2021, 06:41:03 am
Etete is missing from the list

Pretty much agree only Guthrie, Roberts and to an extent McGowan have impressed.

Also Sowerby and Rose who were signed for fees to play at league 1 level, were poor last year, hardly look any better at league 2 level.


Good point. Updated list below.

Sounds like most agree the vast majority have been an complete disappointment. Where does the buck stop?

Foyle for poor scouting, JB for not having a clue on who / what he’s signing or KT for appointing them both!?

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dominic Raven - Centre Back - Aston Villa (loan)
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock
Kion Etete - Striker - Tottenham (loan)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: BackOfTheNet on October 03, 2021, 07:32:22 am
My twopenneth worth...

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City - a bit of a chubber but seems adequate for cover and Cup games.
Liam Roberts – Goalkeeper – Walsall - Excellent. The best keeper we've had in years.
Aaron McGowan – Right Back – Kilmarnock - solid, dependable, links up well with the more attacking players.
Jon Guthrie – Centre Back – Livingston - the pick of the new boys and a fantastic partnership with Horsfall.
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers - I stand by my assessment from my first view of him against Silby: has a ricket in him. Difficult to say whether he'd have settled now he's long term injured.
Dominic Raven - Centre Back - Aston Villa (loan) - f*** knows.
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren - quick, useful to bring on as a sub to run at tired defenders but doesn't seem to have much of a "football brain".
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City - undecided. I think he has skill but flatters to deceive when it comes to applying it. A disappointment so far but I think there's a player in there somewhere.
Paul Lewis – Central Midfield – Tranmere Rovers - I like him. Does the unappreciated donkey work well and breaks forward well on occasion.
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock - started well but has faded. Doesn't seem to be able to run very well, which is a problem for a winger.
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock  - looked a real handful in the friendlies and in the opening league game but has gone backwards from there. His positional play yesterday was awful. Maybe just needs a goal to get him going?
Kion Etete - Striker - Tottenham (loan) - has an undoubted touch of class about him and I had very high hopes after the rave reviews he got after the Coventry game but again seems to have gone backwards. He regularly shows a lovely touch and holds the ball up well, but I don't think he's even looked like scoring in any of the league games.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on October 04, 2021, 07:11:04 am
We have had to shop in the bargain basement for players . The bargain bin was Scotland .
Some of those players we have picked up are decent ( Guthrie , Roberts , Magowan ) , some are average ( Lewis , Maxted , Pinnock , Koiki ) , some are untried and worth a punt ( Etete ) . The rest are below average or just poor .
We have a budget that is way below mid table and yet the expectation is top 6 with a work in progress team.
On Saturday we were crying out for a centre half , a full back , a creative midfielder and a striker .
We had Harriman , Dyche , villa lad , Pollock and Ashley seal that could play in those positions and didn’t . That tells you one thing - none of them are rated by the manager for this standard of football at this time .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 04, 2021, 07:19:12 am
I think the Villa lad sums it up for me, we were forced to sign an injured, unproven youngster from a premiership team.
He signed in August and has a 6 month contract, he is yet to play a first team game and it’s the middle of October we will have picked him up on peanuts with the proviso that we nurse him back to fitness.
It’s not what we need and all this data based selections and committees is more KT BS.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 04, 2021, 19:20:27 pm
I think the Villa lad sums it up for me, we were forced to sign an injured, unproven youngster from a premiership team.
He signed in August and has a 6 month contract, he is yet to play a first team game and it’s the middle of October we will have picked him up on peanuts with the proviso that we nurse him back to fitness.
It’s not what we need and all this data based selections and committees is more KT BS.

I suppose the Data says sign one player ,the budget says sign that one! And that's where we are :(


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on October 05, 2021, 06:52:35 am
Revan is playing tonight as is Pollock. Hopefully they both have a great game to put themselves into contention.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on October 10, 2021, 12:02:56 pm
Are there any out of contract strikers worth signing? Please don't say David Nugent (3 goals in his last 40 games).
On the other hand it is probably not worth it as it would take 6 weeks for them to get match fit and after their first game would then be out injured.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on October 10, 2021, 14:54:15 pm
A pay as you play Dave Nugent is the type we need currently. we need somebody like that to challenge are current non scoring strikers IMO it has to be worth the gamble because its very plan to see Brady is struggling to get a tune out of any of them since day one.

i think if Etete was playing along side a Nugent type experienced player you would see a huge different and it would benefit his game. I can tell you now when he leaves our club he will go on be a top top player but unfortunately we don't seem to able to get anybody of quality along side him to coach him through games at times and given his age and experience.

its a shame really.

UTC   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 10, 2021, 15:50:10 pm
Are there any out of contract strikers worth signing? Please don't say David Nugent (3 goals in his last 40 games).
On the other hand it is probably not worth it as it would take 6 weeks for them to get match fit and after their first game would then be out injured.
David Nugent, here’s my reasoning, we destroy nearly all free scoring strikers, so Nudge, who hasn’t scored since Noah was a lad might be rejuvenated and we turn him into a 20 goal a season man.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on October 10, 2021, 16:03:00 pm
Are there any out of contract strikers worth signing? Please don't say David Nugent (3 goals in his last 40 games).
On the other hand it is probably not worth it as it would take 6 weeks for them to get match fit and after their first game would then be out injured.

Alex Jones (no, not the One Show host). I think he could score a few given the right service. Oh hold on we don't give any service to strikers, do we.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on October 10, 2021, 17:07:18 pm
David Nugent, here’s my reasoning, we destroy nearly all free scoring strikers, so Nudge, who hasn’t scored since Noah was a lad might be rejuvenated and we turn him into a 20 goal a season man.
That ships already sailed apparently


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 10, 2021, 18:15:37 pm
Alex Jones (no, not the One Show host). I think he could score a few given the right service. Oh hold on we don't give any service to strikers, do we.   
What we need is a new Nicky Adams, or even the Nicky Adams, streets ahead of Hoskins, Connolly or the lazy Pinnock in terms of quality and creativity.
We need a playmaker with a bit of quality.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 10, 2021, 18:20:25 pm
What we need is a new Nicky Adams, or even the Nicky Adams, streets ahead of Hoskins, Connolly or the lazy Pinnock in terms of quality and creativity.
We need a playmaker with a bit of quality.

Last season THE Nicky Adams struggled for pace and fitness so I think we'd need a new one.
Agree we need some quality from somewhere.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on October 11, 2021, 08:43:30 am
Are there any out of contract strikers worth signing? Please don't say David Nugent (3 goals in his last 40 games).
On the other hand it is probably not worth it as it would take 6 weeks for them to get match fit and after their first game would then be out injured.
If they were worth signing they wouldnt be out of contract.
Anyone like that is going to be a punt, either someone like Nugent who's at the end and dropped down the leagues (maybe combine with coaching badges to keep the wage down) but like you said wont be match fit, or a kid that's been released with a point to prove.
Just have to hope the committee have identified someone to bring in during January. But again will be a punt, either someone non league who hope can do it in in the league, someone out of favour who wont be match fit or a prem / champ loan who also wont be match fit.
Only way out of that will be to spend big but no club is going to let their star striker go for anything less than an inflated price which we know we wont spend


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on October 11, 2021, 10:09:14 am
Woody you are spot on. What I’m intrigued to know about is what ‘qualities’ were identified by the Committee to substantiate the signings of Kabamba and also to lesser degree Lewis/Connolly.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on October 11, 2021, 12:03:13 pm
Woody you are spot on. What I’m intrigued to know about is what ‘qualities’ were identified by the Committee to substantiate the signings of Kabamba and also to lesser degree Lewis/Connolly.
Is the answer …..cost
None commanded a transfer fee?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on October 11, 2021, 12:30:40 pm
Shoemender it’s clearly a consideration but you would hope that it’s not the first on the list.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on October 11, 2021, 12:44:28 pm
Woody you are spot on. What I’m intrigued to know about is what ‘qualities’ were identified by the Committee to substantiate the signings of Kabamba and also to lesser degree Lewis/Connolly.
Can only assume we missed out on a number 10. We have a lot of players who are supposed to hold the ball up but there's no number 10 to pass it on to or to chase the flick ons. Unless I'm missing someone.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 11, 2021, 13:51:19 pm
Woody you are spot on. What I’m intrigued to know about is what ‘qualities’ were identified by the Committee to substantiate the signings of Kabamba and also to lesser degree Lewis/Connolly.

A very good point. I wonder how many of the 'committee' knew who they even were!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 11, 2021, 14:30:42 pm
Caleb Chukwuemeka has won Premier League 2’s September Player of the Month award.

Five goals during three games last month saw the striker fire Aston Villa to the top of the table.

Chukwuemeka's standout display came when he tore West Bromwich Albion apart at Bodymoor Heath, netting a hat-trick in a 4-2 win.

Anyone on the committee heard of him I wonder ???


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: 1HorshamCobbler on October 11, 2021, 14:43:44 pm
I think we maybe have been shopping in the wrong market, clearly Harrogate, Sutton and to a lesser degree Barrow knew the Non League players well (Graham C prev). Is it a hunger trait, desire or skill.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on October 11, 2021, 15:05:50 pm
If we don’t get a grip soon we will know all about non league players next season!!

#nostrikers


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 11, 2021, 15:13:49 pm
A very good point. I wonder how many of the 'committee' knew who they even were!
Committee indeed, what a loan of utter spin, sucked up by the sheep.
There is no data driven approach that’s fcukin obvious.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on October 11, 2021, 15:38:31 pm
Caleb Chukwuemeka has won Premier League 2’s September Player of the Month award.

Five goals during three games last month saw the striker fire Aston Villa to the top of the table.

Chukwuemeka's standout display came when he tore West Bromwich Albion apart at Bodymoor Heath, netting a hat-trick in a 4-2 win.

Anyone on the committee heard of him I wonder ???

What do you think the committee should have done differently re Caleb?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 11, 2021, 15:50:20 pm
What do you think the committee should have done differently re Caleb?

I was just making a joke really :)

Could we have got him back on a season loan? Perhaps they tried, who knows?

To be fair they got money for a player who wasn't tearing up any trees for us at the time. Perhaps U23 football is his level at the moment.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on October 11, 2021, 16:00:00 pm
I was just making a joke really :)

Could we have got him back on a season loan? Perhaps they tried, who knows?

To be fair they got money for a player who wasn't tearing up any trees for us at the time. Perhaps U23 football is his level at the moment.

No worries.  Think I'm being over sensitive at the moment as I just don't understand why people think a recruitment committee and data driven approach is something that happens overnight and produces perfect results straight away.

I get people are frustrated but surely it's time we all just took a breath and had some patience with the playing/coaching side.

Re Caleb.  Good for him.  Great to see he's doing well.  He's clearly a good player, a real prospect and I don't think he needs to out on loan yet as I think Villa will want more time to work with him at the moment.  As you say I think U23 level is his level currently and if anyone has ever watched games at that level it's a far cry from league two in the way football is played.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on October 11, 2021, 17:21:37 pm
I don't how people have the energy to keep on being wound up by the cobblers. I couldn't care less. Maybe if I was a bit happier with the rest of my life I could give a damn like some of you. None of this really matters.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: west stand oap on October 11, 2021, 17:45:17 pm
Aston Villa U23's are playing Caleb down the middle as an out and out striker a position where he was not given a chance here as he was usually played wide. I never thought there was any point in him coming back on loan as when he left he was getting very little game time.

As for us soon finding out about non league players I don't think there is any chance of us going down. To reach the much touted 50 point safety mark we need another 35 points from 35 games, so only a point a game. Oh wait a minute from the last 5 games we only got 3 points, drastic improvement needed.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on October 11, 2021, 17:49:46 pm
I don't how people have the energy to keep on being wound up by the cobblers. I couldn't care less. Maybe if I was a bit happier with the rest of my life I could give a damn like some of you. None of this really matters.
In which case, what are you doing on here??


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on October 11, 2021, 18:06:06 pm
I've got nothing better to do.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on October 11, 2021, 18:30:18 pm
I've got nothing better to do.
Get yourself over to the redevelopment thread, you’ll soon feel revitalised


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 11, 2021, 19:13:39 pm
I doubt if the recruitment committee had much if anything to with the summer singings as it would have been formed too late.

So most of the players that came in were Martin Foyle recommendations and we don't know how far down his list they were, first choice or last resort?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemender on October 11, 2021, 19:36:38 pm
I don't how people have the energy to keep on being wound up by the cobblers. I couldn't care less. Maybe if I was a bit happier with the rest of my life I could give a damn like some of you. None of this really matters.

It's not a matter of life or death.......It's more important than that. :P


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on October 12, 2021, 09:48:51 am
I've got nothing better to do.

Quite enjoyed the recent remarks/opinions from the last few posters. For example MCH and Clarity remarks to Mannys bombshell all make decent points. For me OAP comment that Caleb was played out of position does seem to make JB’s selection policy a bit suspect. But is this an accurate assumption?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Zen Master on October 12, 2021, 10:19:44 am
Ask any striker their preference and it is likely to be through the middle. With higher quality players around you this is more likely as are the standards of through balls to set you up.
Drop down a few divisions and it becomes more about winning the fight firstly and hoping you get a few chances and it dropping kindly. Wish him well on a personal note and also as it financially may help the club the better he does.
 U23 games are not the combative arena of the fourth division or even PJ Trophy games. BAS did well at U23 level for Wolves etc.
If we played Etete off the shoulder of the last man with a packed midfield with some pace to break the lines or the ability to set him free I’d hope he’d be more prolific. Instead we repeat how we used Smith and numerous others. Hit the big man and feed off the scraps except there’s massive gaps between defenders and midfielders and then forwards.
Games easy from the stands or behind a keyboard


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 12:00:27 pm
I doubt if the recruitment committee had much if anything to with the summer singings as it would have been formed too late.

So most of the players that came in were Martin Foyle recommendations and we don't know how far down his list they were, first choice or last resort?
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/kt_050521/

It’s was formed on the 5th May so I think they had time to find a meeting room don’t you?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on October 12, 2021, 12:07:40 pm
It always baffles me that people think its always the forwards at fault. What fans expect is for us to sign a forward so much better than our level that they can score goals out of nothing or feeding from scraps.

I personally think our central midfield is non existent. We have several forwards capable of 10-15 goals with the right service, Harry Smith is currently proving he wasn't the issue last season. 


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 12:20:29 pm
It always baffles me that people think its always the forwards at fault. What fans expect is for us to sign a forward so much better than our level that they can score goals out of nothing or feeding from scraps.

I personally think our central midfield is non existent. We have several forwards capable of 10-15 goals with the right service, Harry Smith is currently proving he wasn't the issue last season. 
I don’t disagree, hence me saying we need a Nicky Adams type of player, unfortunately for us they cost money.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 12, 2021, 12:35:51 pm
Caleb Chukwuemeka has won Premier League 2’s September Player of the Month award.

Five goals during three games last month saw the striker fire Aston Villa to the top of the table.

Chukwuemeka's standout display came when he tore West Bromwich Albion apart at Bodymoor Heath, netting a hat-trick in a 4-2 win.

Anyone on the committee heard of him I wonder ???

I hope not!

Scoring goals at kids level is no guarantee of success in the men's game, and besides he didn't have much luck when he was hear a couple of months back.

Etete and Benny are prime examples.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: DrillingCobbler on October 12, 2021, 12:44:02 pm
just spent 5 minutes (literally) googling under23's league, etc...

https://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-u23-premier-league-div-1-2020-2021/ - ETE IS 11th equal on that list.

So I started off at the top and worked my way down.

First two players, both at Man City still, never been out on loan anywhere to compare.
3rd place, McBridge, yet to play for Blackburns first team.
4th place, Broadhead. He scored 3 goals in 22 games on loan to Burton. So he'd fit in well with us, he'd be our top scorer!!  ;D

I think my point is simple. That the under23's league thing is totally and utterly irrelevant when it comes to stats versus capability at EFL level!


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on October 12, 2021, 12:59:14 pm
BAS was 12th in 2019/20


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Welly Cobb on October 12, 2021, 14:22:05 pm
The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a gamble, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on October 12, 2021, 14:54:07 pm
I think my point is simple. That the under23's league thing is totally and utterly irrelevant when it comes to stats versus capability at EFL level!

Yep this.  I've watched quite a bit of Under 23s football over the years and you are spot on.  A totally different style of football played on mostly perfect pitches in an almost friendly like environment.  Don't get me wrong some really good footballers and great to watch if you like good passing football but nothing like anything players would face in most of the lower levels of the football league.   



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 16:04:42 pm
The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a ****, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.
No they were discussed by the committee 😉


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 16:09:12 pm
Yep this.  I've watched quite a bit of Under 23s football over the years and you are spot on.  A totally different style of football played on mostly perfect pitches in an almost friendly like environment.  Don't get me wrong some really good footballers and great to watch if you like good passing football but nothing like anything players would face in most of the lower levels of the football league.   


Totally agree and then you go and get ginger pele Calum Morton.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on October 12, 2021, 16:12:45 pm
The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a ****, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.

We have to rely on the recruiting experts advice! But the selection of Kabamba needs some explanation as his goals in games played is a rudimentary guide. When his name appeared that was the source most on here did and then expressed doubt. If Swindon can put together a side why can’t we?
We ought to be asking Mr Foyle his justifications for signing Mr K?  


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 12, 2021, 16:31:31 pm
We have to rely on the recruiting experts advice! But the selection of Kabamba needs some explanation as his goals in games played is a rudimentary guide. When his name appeared that was the source most on here did and then expressed doubt. If Swindon can put together a side why can’t we?
We ought to be asking Mr Foyle his justifications for signing Mr K?  

I think someone should be asking for his justifications on a few others also!

It's a strange old world, I wonder if the manager and owner trust him enough in the next window after the horlicks he's made so far?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on October 12, 2021, 16:47:39 pm
Totally agree and then you go and get ginger pele Calum Morton.

And that's the argument or proves the point, he had done next to nothing of significance prior to coming to us, we were lucky with him.
We haven't been as 'lucky' with the current ones.  8)


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on October 12, 2021, 17:30:40 pm
I think someone should be asking for his justifications on a few others also!

It's a strange old world, I wonder if the manager and owner trust him enough in the next window after the horlicks he's made so far?


Perhaps so but you make it sound all of them are failures! So who are the few others?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Winslow Lee on October 12, 2021, 17:42:00 pm

I personally think our central midfield is non existent. We have several forwards capable of 10-15 goals with the right service, Harry Smith is currently proving he wasn't the issue last season. 

Totally disagree, in the 4-4-2 we play the 4 attacking players (2 wingers and 2 strikers) need to do much more in terms of creating and scoring goals, I think there is promise in Etete but other than that Hoskins has been the best of the bunch which says it all really.   


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 12, 2021, 18:32:32 pm
Perhaps so but you make it sound all of them are failures! So who are the few others?

I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Gen.Disorda on October 12, 2021, 18:38:41 pm
Totally disagree, in the 4-4-2 we play the 4 attacking players (2 wingers and 2 strikers) need to do much more in terms of creating and scoring goals, I think there is promise in Etete but other than that Hoskins has been the best of the bunch which says it all really.   

Two under performing wingers and nothing into feet from midfield.

I'm not saying the strikers are stand out, I just mean we should be able to score more from open play with that front line.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 18:49:56 pm
I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.
Absolutely spot on, Sid Nelson is a conference player at best, Maxted is a rolly polly liability and as for Mitch “lazy bàstard” Pinnock the less said the better.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on October 12, 2021, 19:43:39 pm
Absolutely spot on, Sid Nelson is a conference player at best, Maxted is a rolly polly liability and as for Mitch “lazy bàstard” Pinnock the less said the better.

Very harsh as always  ::)

Maxted is a perfectly adequate number 2. Nelson is out for the season, so how can you judge him on 2 or 3 games? Pinnock, I agree should be doing a little more.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 20:52:33 pm
Very harsh as always  ::)

Maxted is a perfectly adequate number 2. Nelson is out for the season, so how can you judge him on 2 or 3 games? Pinnock, I agree should be doing a little more.
It’s how I see it, take it you weren’t at the league cup game when Maxted was beaten from 30 yards?
Nelson is dreadful and nothing more than last resort back up.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on October 12, 2021, 21:02:19 pm
It’s how I see it, take it you weren’t at the league cup game when Maxted was beaten from 30 yards?
Nelson is dreadful and nothing more than last resort back up.

Yes, I was at the game. Goalkeepers make mistakes on occasions and normally they result in goals, I should know as I kept goal at local level. Players make mistakes all the time but they mostly get away with them, that's the difference.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 12, 2021, 21:21:14 pm
Yes, I was at the game. Goalkeepers make mistakes on occasions and normally they result in goals, I should know as I kept goal at local level. Players make mistakes all the time but they mostly get away with them, that's the difference.
I never seen you play but I reckon you’d have saved the one against the Wombles.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on October 13, 2021, 10:03:08 am
I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.

Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 13, 2021, 10:17:46 am
Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?

Very interesting, so bar Kabamba all other signings are okay.

I look forward to meeting you at the promotion party.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Mysterious Curle on October 13, 2021, 10:39:50 am
Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?

I must admit it's strange that you call Kabamba out as the only 'poor' signing. Only a few weeks ago you were posting how dangerous he looked with the ball at his feet, and praising him for his ability to play a pass or two.

You also agreed with Back of the Nets comment post Port Vale:

"Kabamba - just superb. Probably my MOM. Canny, quick, surprisingly good feet for a big man. Will be a crowd favourite in no time."

On the flip side, you state Nelson cant be labelled as a poor signing because he played well at Coventry and its too early to judge others.

Very interesting, do you have an ulterior motive?



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on October 13, 2021, 11:28:33 am
Anyone cashed out their 'Etete top league two scorer' yet?  :P

I swear we could knock the goals out of Ronaldo, Mo Salah and Jamie Vardy if all three played for us.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3359 on October 13, 2021, 12:16:11 pm
Anyone cashed out their 'Etete top league two scorer' yet?  :P

I swear we could knock the goals out of Ronaldo, Mo Salah and Jamie Vardy if all three played for us.
Oh fcuk. I forgot I put that bet on. Thanks for reminding me.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: MCHammer on October 13, 2021, 13:38:39 pm
Anyone cashed out their 'Etete top league two scorer' yet?  :P

I swear we could knock the goals out of Ronaldo, Mo Salah and Jamie Vardy if all three played for us.

That made me smile  :)

Sadly you are so right.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on October 13, 2021, 16:38:26 pm
I never seen you play but I reckon you’d have saved the one against the Wombles.

Clearly you haven't seen me play  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: the grumpy old man on October 13, 2021, 16:45:29 pm
It's nice to see this thread alive and well, considering the transfer window closed at the end of August. Well done to those keeping it alive  ;)

I shall look forward to a 'January transfer window'. thread round about early December.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: everbrite on October 13, 2021, 20:13:15 pm
I must admit it's strange that you call Kabamba out as the only 'poor' signing. Only a few weeks ago you were posting how dangerous he looked with the ball at his feet, and praising him for his ability to play a pass or two.

You also agreed with Back of the Nets comment post Port Vale:

"Kabamba - just superb. Probably my MOM. Canny, quick, surprisingly good feet for a big man. Will be a crowd favourite in no time."

On the flip side, you state Nelson cant be labelled as a poor signing because he played well at Coventry and its too early to judge others.

Very interesting, do you have an ulterior motive?


Only you could journey back in time to prove a false premise on Kabamba - as stated by others you can change your mind on a player particularly if he has played consistently poorly as Mr K has. For example you have clearly changed your mind on McGowan who has proved to be a consistent acquisition. Then you drift onto Nelson who had a couple of good games and is now out for the season. For me it is too early to write him off as flippantly as you do. Then you pause to dwell on the supernatural in questioning 'ulterior motives' - am beginning to question your peculiar mindset. 
I hope JB comes good, we win the next few games crash into the auto's; that can also include Kabamba if he comes good. Am not into your endless cynical comments on Players/Coaches and pseudo analysis of players particularly of those who suffer injuries performing match saving tackle(s).


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3063 on October 23, 2021, 14:47:07 pm
John-Joe O'Toole signs a short term deal (until January) at Mansfield Town.

Adam Smith signs for Stevenage and is playing today. JJOT is on the bench for Mansfield.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Ragdoll Cobbler on October 23, 2021, 17:52:17 pm
John-Joe O'Toole signs a short term deal (until January) at Mansfield Town.

Adam Smith signs for Stevenage and is playing today. JJOT is on the bench for Mansfield.

Smith MOTM today by all accounts...seem to remember he had a worldy of a game for us v Orient at Sixfields too. Hope it works out for both.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on October 24, 2021, 02:27:04 am
Anyone cashed out their 'Etete top league two scorer' yet?  :P


I think I'm going to hang on a little while longer, maybe see after 46 games.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on October 24, 2021, 10:36:57 am
i think we will be looking to get a centre half in the window ( let the Villa guy go ) and a playmaker ( in place of BAS ) .
possibly a back up right back as well after the Sutton fiasco .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Shoemaker on October 24, 2021, 11:16:32 am
i think we will be looking to get a centre half in the window ( let the Villa guy go ) and a playmaker ( in place of BAS ) .
possibly a back up right back as well after the Sutton fiasco .
Close but no cigar  ;)



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3429 on October 25, 2021, 05:44:46 am
I hope we have learned something from the Callum Morton fiasco which frankly left our league preparation in tatters.

It would be nice to think the loan agreement with Kion reads something like, If at the end of the season and loan period (the team are promoted) and (loan player) is to be loaned again for another season of development (we have first dibs)

Somehow I doubt it though.  ;D



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: WasRambo on October 25, 2021, 11:08:48 am
I hope we have learned something from the Callum Morton fiasco which frankly left our league preparation in tatters.

It would be nice to think the loan agreement with Kion reads something like, If at the end of the season and loan period (the team are promoted) and (loan player) is to be loaned again for another season of development (we have first dibs)

Somehow I doubt it though.  ;D



This. Infinitely apparent to anyone with an ounce of commonsense but no guarantee that the administration will have worked that into any agreement thats already in place. Needless to say, if Kion bangs another half dozen in his next ten games, it'll be a harder and potentially more expensive addition to make to his contract.



Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: EB Claret on October 25, 2021, 12:11:20 pm
I hope we have learned something from the Callum Morton fiasco which frankly left our league preparation in tatters.

It would be nice to think the loan agreement with Kion reads something like, If at the end of the season and loan period (the team are promoted) and (loan player) is to be loaned again for another season of development (we have first dibs)

Somehow I doubt it though.  ;D



It would be lovely to think we could have an agreement like that and we may have asked, but we can't demand it, he is Spurs' player, not ours.
Any conditions built in to the loan are likely to be in the parent club's favour.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on October 25, 2021, 13:01:24 pm
We beat Cheltenham to the signing of Kion and that is testament the the faith Tottenham have in our set up.
Pleat and Roberts are often at the ground and monitor him closely .
If he does well here and continues to develop it will be in our favour ultimately .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Risdene on October 25, 2021, 13:48:18 pm
I wonder if a deal is possible to get Fraser Hornby back at the club, to team up Etete. He is not getting game time at Aberdeen, whilst on loan from Reims?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on October 25, 2021, 16:41:50 pm
We beat Cheltenham to the signing of Kion and that is testament the the faith Tottenham have in our set up.
Pleat and Roberts are often at the ground and monitor him closely .
If he does well here and continues to develop it will be in our favour ultimately .
Yid army…….Spurs have got a lot of very good young lads, let’s look after Kion and get a few more this way.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: West Stand on October 25, 2021, 17:12:22 pm
This. Infinitely apparent to anyone with an ounce of commonsense but no guarantee that the administration will have worked that into any agreement thats already in place. Needless to say, if Kion bangs another half dozen in his next ten games, it'll be a harder and potentially more expensive addition to make to his contract.



Why beat the club up over something that was never going to happen? Do you really think Spurs would agree to that. When was the last time a player has a season loan to the same club two seasons in a row?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Carton Lid on October 25, 2021, 19:44:33 pm

Why beat the club up over something that was never going to happen? Do you really think Spurs would agree to that. When was the last time a player has a season loan to the same club two seasons in a row?
Freddie Woodman at Swansea ?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Clarity on November 03, 2021, 12:39:28 pm
Martin Foyle has left the club... he didn't hang around too long.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on November 03, 2021, 14:18:54 pm
Martin Foyle has left the club... he didn't hang around too long.

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/foyles-new-club-confirmed-following-cobblers-departure-3443462


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on November 03, 2021, 15:51:06 pm
Martin Foyle has left the club... he didn't hang around too long.
Emmmmm seems the data driven approach wasn’t to his liking.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest2995 on November 04, 2021, 07:54:16 am
Quite significant news this and also a surprise .
Whoever we appoint next is critical to the development of the club . Recruitment is everything .
Interesting to see who the committee go for but with the level of experience between JB , CC and Graham Carr around the table we should get someone decent .
Foyle did a good job overall i think .


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Joes Sweet Left Foot on November 04, 2021, 08:08:24 am
Perhaps we just need a first class data analyst to select the potential recruits and let the scouting do the rest.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on November 04, 2021, 09:02:18 am
Quite significant news this and also a surprise .
Whoever we appoint next is critical to the development of the club . Recruitment is everything .
Interesting to see who the committee go for but with the level of experience between JB , CC and Graham Carr around the table we should get someone decent .
Foyle did a good job overall i think .
Totally agree, it’s the lifeblood for a club of our size.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2022, 14:06:35 pm
Good luck with your new keeper Roberts, boy you are going to need it !

Was worth the couple of minutes it took to find that memory.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Manwork04 on February 06, 2022, 16:35:00 pm
Was worth the couple of minutes it took to find that memory.
Brilliant mate,  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2022, 16:56:59 pm
I am surprised he didn't drop the pen while signing on. I will be here all season don't worry  ;D

An even better one of the page after Manny  ;)  ;D


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest3481 on February 07, 2022, 07:14:01 am
An even better one of the page after Manny  ;)  ;D
Strangely after promising to be here all season that was his last message.  ;D
Goes to show how important fans opinions are on social media when a player signs for another club.


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on February 07, 2022, 10:02:01 am
Would be even better if the clueless twerp waxed lyrical about their own super signing Ash Taylor over on their forum. Although even he/she can’t be that clueless can they?


Title: Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window
Post by: guest49 on February 07, 2022, 15:16:54 pm
Robert's final season for them was clearly a stinker but he's having a cracker for us, long may it continue.
We've seen both sides of it with plenty of players. Usually when they are sh*te for us and go on to play like Pele elsewhere.