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Title: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Teachers Pet on November 21, 2021, 13:56:02 pm
Our former manager brings his Oldham Athletic team to town this coming Tuesday. Given the fact he got us a promotion but never had the opportunity to celebrate this achievement with the fans will hopefully not be forgotten by our supporters and I for one hope he will get a decent reception when he takes his place in the dugout.   

I know his football was awful at times, but let's give him the thanks (before the game, not during) he surely deserves.   

Do others think the same? (Even some that didn't like his playing style). I will be interested to hear what people think. 


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: CobblerForever on November 21, 2021, 14:25:55 pm
He didn't strike me as someone who was particularly keen to engage with the supporters. I wouldn't boo him.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Saint Cobbler on November 21, 2021, 16:52:53 pm
I didn't like his playing style or conversational abilities but I think it only right that he is given a warm welcome before the game.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Teachers Pet on November 21, 2021, 16:53:16 pm
Well from the large number of responses I take it he won't be getting a decent reception. A bit of a shame for one of the few managers in history to get us a promotion.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Larry on November 21, 2021, 17:12:04 pm
Well from the large number of responses I take it he won't be getting a decent reception. A bit of a shame for one of the few managers in history to get us a promotion.

Shaun McWilliams also gave him that credit in yesterday's interview.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: CobblerForever on November 21, 2021, 17:13:22 pm
Do Curle and Hasselbaink get to claim they didn't get a relegation on their CV's from their time with us ?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: CobblerForever on November 21, 2021, 17:17:56 pm
Well from the large number of responses I take it he won't be getting a decent reception. A bit of a shame for one of the few managers in history to get us a promotion.

How many of Arsenal's managers have got them a promotion !


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Teachers Pet on November 21, 2021, 17:23:04 pm
How many of Arsenal's managers have got them a promotion !

 ??? Strange comment but thanks all the same.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Coolcat on November 21, 2021, 18:00:09 pm
How many of Arsenal's managers have got them a promotion !
Can't remember many getting a relegation either...Boring, boring Arsenal!  ;D


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2021, 19:08:34 pm
I might extend a polite applause for a brief moment despite being far from his biggest fan during his time. I was happy enough to celebrate round his car after Wembley after all.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Boot and shoe on November 21, 2021, 20:11:21 pm
a round of applause at the start and then abuse throughout the game every time they go long .


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Manwork04 on November 21, 2021, 21:49:50 pm
He deserves a modicum of respect before kick off.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: everbrite on November 21, 2021, 22:11:31 pm
He deserves a modicum of respect before kick off.


+ me too!


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: EB Claret on November 21, 2021, 22:16:28 pm
He deserves a modicum of respect before kick off.

Yes he does.
Then hopefully during the game "Curly, Curly what's the score" :)


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Peter Frost on November 21, 2021, 22:23:45 pm
Certainly not our best manage but an honest servant to the club during his tenure - yes a brief round of applause would be a good response.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Manwork04 on November 21, 2021, 22:24:26 pm
Yes he does.
Then hopefully during the game "Curly, Curly what's the score" :)
Or………we’ve seen you before…..we’ve seen you before….your…….😈


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Bigbadcob on November 22, 2021, 01:03:42 am
Or if we are winning, how about singing to the Oldham fans …. Curlies at the wheel … at the wheel … curlies at the wheel… na na nnn na


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Boot and shoe on November 22, 2021, 08:17:04 am
A polite round of applause and then nothing but abuse every time they launch it .
Centre halves have to be strong and win every second ball . If you do that he has no answer .


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on November 22, 2021, 08:29:28 am
a round of applause at the start and then abuse throughout the game every time they go long .


Yes, because we now play tippy-tappy football right  ::). I wasn't a fan of his way of playing and prefer JB's brand, but there are still a fair number of long balls mixed in. Anyway, overall I think KC did a decent job for us, and agree that he deserves a round of applause before kick-off.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Boot and shoe on November 22, 2021, 10:23:26 am
Yes, because we now play tippy-tappy football right  ::). I wasn't a fan of his way of playing and prefer JB's brand, but there are still a fair number of long balls mixed in. Anyway, overall I think KC did a decent job for us, and agree that he deserves a round of applause before kick-off.
Who said we play tippy tappy football ? i didn’t .
A mixture of styles is always what is required and the football we play now is infinitely better than Curle’s caveman approach from 1990 .
Amazed he is still in employment .


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: everbrite on November 22, 2021, 10:31:15 am
Who said we play tippy tappy football ? i didn’t .
A mixture of styles is always what is required and the football we play now is infinitely better than Curle’s caveman approach from 1990 .
Amazed he is still in employment .

So courtesy is not for you?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: BackOfTheNet on November 22, 2021, 10:53:12 am
I wasn't Curle's biggest fan, nothing against him as a person (on the contrary he seems like quite a decent bloke), I just don't care for his brand of football.
Regardless of that, he did get us promoted and we never really got a chance to thank him for that, so I'll be applauding him before the game.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on November 22, 2021, 11:01:05 am
Yes, but when the whistle blows, the gloves are off... 8)


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: west stand oap on November 22, 2021, 12:29:19 pm
I would agree that appreciation should be shown before the game and see no reason for any snide comments once the game has got underway. Both he and us have moved on.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Coolcat on November 22, 2021, 12:32:30 pm
I would agree that appreciation should be shown before the game and see no reason for any snide comments once the game has got underway. Both he and us have moved on.
You think he'll hear snide comments from the stands?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: cobbler151 on November 22, 2021, 14:14:40 pm
Whatever people say about him

He turned Charlie Goode into our first million pound player.
Got us promoted
Bashed up the team in the final 4-0
Signed Frazier Horsfall.

Staying up was always going to be a big ask.
I think he's done enough to deserve a warm reception



Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Peter Frost on November 22, 2021, 14:38:58 pm
Yes, but when the whistle blows, the gloves are off... 8)

Which, if anyone saw him play is exactly what he would expect


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on November 22, 2021, 14:40:24 pm
Whatever people say about him

He turned Charlie Goode into our first million pound player.
Got us promoted
Bashed up the team in the final 4-0
Signed Frazier Horsfall.

Staying up was always going to be a big ask.
I think he's done enough to deserve a warm reception



Agree 100%. We never got to thank him for those wonderful 2 games 18 months ago.
That final at Wembley is definitely in my Top 5 all time Cobblers moments.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: observer1 on November 22, 2021, 15:12:32 pm
Whatever people say about him

He turned Charlie Goode into our first million pound player.
Got us promoted
Bashed up the team in the final 4-0
Signed Frazier Horsfall.

Staying up was always going to be a big ask.
I think he's done enough to deserve a warm reception

Nailed it. Though things ended on a somewhat sour note, he deserves plenty of respect from the supporters for those reasons in particular.

I also happen to think he's doing a fine job at Oldham with all the difficulties they've had. 15 points from 17 is not great obviously, but you have to look at it in context, and I don't think anyone else in the league could rival them for number of issues both on and off the field, so to have steered them to 4 successes and a position of 2 points clear of the relegation zone is some going. They could easily be a little bit adrift at this point.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: CJ on November 22, 2021, 16:18:34 pm
We should award him an appropriate welcome before singing in unison, Mysterious Brady I want to play 352.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Baldy on November 22, 2021, 19:29:36 pm
Yes he does.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Gaston on November 23, 2021, 12:42:08 pm
He got the applause for promotion on the night, 1,000+ down Sixfields. He didn’t get the fans on his back when things went bad. I will not boo him.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: everbrite on November 23, 2021, 14:12:59 pm
You think he'll hear snide comments from the stands?

Always remember when in a home game v Ssunthorpe their player went down as if poleaxed.When he eventually rose some wag in approx seat 180 started to intone the parable on Lazarus with "he has risen" booming out. So some comments can be heard whether snide, insults or worse!


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Teachers Pet on November 23, 2021, 17:07:27 pm
a round of applause at the start and then abuse throughout the game every time they go long .


You might be disappointed. JB seems to think he plays a more pleasing style at Oldham, even playing out from the back  :o   


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Winslow Lee on November 23, 2021, 19:17:53 pm
I think he deserves a decent reception


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: WasRambo on November 23, 2021, 19:42:31 pm
He gave this club the best day at Wembley it will ever see.... Even if we couldn't be there


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on November 23, 2021, 22:29:28 pm
What was he up to at the end? I went for a Jimmy riddle and heard him getting a bit of stick..


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Manwork04 on November 23, 2021, 22:40:13 pm
What was he up to at the end? I went for a Jimmy riddle and heard him getting a bit of stick..
It’s your age Tel.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on November 24, 2021, 09:29:59 am
It’s your age Tel.

it is indeed  ;D I went back in to have a look for myself. But I couldn't usher my weak and frail frame to the front.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Dan on November 24, 2021, 13:09:47 pm
Oldham fans, you’re welcome. Curle gone  ;D


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on November 24, 2021, 13:26:06 pm
Oldham fans, you’re welcome. Curle gone  ;D

That wasn't expected was it?
I thought that their gripe was with the owners not the manager?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: tcobb on November 24, 2021, 13:35:38 pm
Some Oldham fans saying it's no surprise he has gone, stubbornness to change a system that wasn't working is their main gripe. 


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on November 24, 2021, 13:39:57 pm
Some Oldham fans saying it's no surprise he has gone, stubbornness to change a system that wasn't working is their main gripe. 

No way..


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: tcobb on November 24, 2021, 13:57:52 pm
 ;D


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: SadOldGit on November 24, 2021, 14:34:29 pm
His last game was @ Sixfields x 2.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: CJ on November 24, 2021, 14:47:52 pm
Does seem harsh after last night's second half performance.
He was their ninth manager since 2018  :o


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Bertie on November 24, 2021, 18:33:50 pm
Given Oldham's win at Port Vale, and their 2nd half performance yesterday find that surprising. will have little sympathy if they go down.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Coolcat on November 24, 2021, 21:34:10 pm
Article about Curle and Oldham from the Guardian.

The Guardian: Keith Curle, Oldham and long-forgotten memories of the Sky Strikers.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/24/the-fiver-oldham-keith-curle




Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: west stand oap on November 25, 2021, 12:36:49 pm
None of Oldham's last 15 managers have lasted a calendar year so KC's 8 months is longer than a lot of them. He must have realised when he accepted the job that it was only likely to be short term.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Carton Lid on November 25, 2021, 12:53:28 pm
So he's probably now getting a pay off from us and Oldham ?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: west stand oap on November 25, 2021, 13:50:26 pm
I would have thought that a club sacking a manager should be liable to continue paying him to the end of his contract or offer him a lump sum payment to conclude his tenure (probably less than the total due to the end of his contract).
If we had the first agreement we would not have paid him much as he was appointed at Oldham within a month.
If we paid a lump sum KC did very well out of the deal.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: singcobb on November 25, 2021, 16:39:35 pm
I would have thought that a club sacking a manager should be liable to continue paying him to the end of his contract or offer him a lump sum payment to conclude his tenure (probably less than the total due to the end of his contract).
If we had the first agreement we would not have paid him much as he was appointed at Oldham within a month.
If we paid a lump sum KC did very well out of the deal.

I find the whole thing about paying someone after you have sacked them for being useless completely stupid.
This is one of the things that the EFL needs to look at and put an end to.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Winslow Lee on November 25, 2021, 17:25:12 pm
I find the whole thing about paying someone after you have sacked them for being useless completely stupid.
This is one of the things that the EFL needs to look at and put an end to.

There is no way there will be an end to it, you can’t sack players for being useless either without paying them off.
It’s up to the chairman how long a contract he wants to give the manager.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Coolcat on November 25, 2021, 19:21:46 pm
There is no way there will be an end to it, you can’t sack players for being useless either without paying them off.
It’s up to the chairman how long a contract he wants to give the manager.

Ok, so have a clause in the contract...or do you think in Keith Curle's case, it's a buyers market?


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: west stand oap on November 25, 2021, 19:48:04 pm
I don't think you can say KC was "useless" otherwise he would not have got us promoted and we would not have had those 2 unforgettable games to conclude that season. Unfortunately we had a poorer team the next season to compete in a higher division whether that was due to poor recruitment or because of the budget at KC's disposal we could not attract better players we will never know.
It was evident on Tuesday that he is able to change tactics which almost brought him some success but he was too rigid tactically here.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Manwork04 on November 26, 2021, 09:00:46 am
I don't think you can say KC was "useless" otherwise he would not have got us promoted and we would not have had those 2 unforgettable games to conclude that season. Unfortunately we had a poorer team the next season to compete in a higher division whether that was due to poor recruitment or because of the budget at KC's disposal we could not attract better players we will never know.
It was evident on Tuesday that he is able to change tactics which almost brought him some success but he was too rigid tactically here.
The fact we got promoted was more down to COVID than Keef.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: tcobb on November 26, 2021, 11:17:45 am
With the the season finishing early the Cobblers were left in a position to be in the play offs, would they have been there if the season had been completed  ? Nobody knows and nobody ever will. To say they only got promoted because of Covid is pure speculation.  Just give the man credit for getting us in the playoffs and then promoted.


Title: Re: Does Keith Curle deserve a good reception on Tuesday?
Post by: Manwork04 on November 26, 2021, 15:04:18 pm
With the the season finishing early the Cobblers were left in a position to be in the play offs, would they have been there if the season had been completed  ? Nobody knows and nobody ever will. To say they only got promoted because of Covid is pure speculation.  Just give the man credit for getting us in the playoffs and then promoted.
Keef Curle is dead to me.