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Title: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3063 on December 26, 2021, 16:15:56 pm
We are due to be playing this game on Wednesday (7:45pm kick-off).

Does anyone know if it's going ahead? There's been no confirmation either way on the clubs web pages or twitter.

Scunny played today and won 3:1 at Oldham, in the process moving away from bottom place in the table. Keith Hill is now in charge at Glanford Park.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3063 on December 26, 2021, 21:02:22 pm
It is being mentioned on the Scunny twitter page as game on.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest2995 on December 26, 2021, 21:42:45 pm
if this goes ahead , it might be sammo in charge ….
Trying hard to get it off


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3063 on December 27, 2021, 11:14:25 am
if this goes ahead , it might be sammo in charge ….
Trying hard to get it off

Leaving it a bit late.

The EFL will only call it off if we don't have enough players. Surely, most of the players will be back in training as this all started the week before the Barrow game on 18th December (week commencing 13th Dec)?   


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest2995 on December 27, 2021, 11:52:33 am
i think it would be much better if the game was off .
it’s a case of if the EFL will allow it .
Also , injuries as well as covid and not having been able to train .


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest2995 on December 27, 2021, 12:20:17 pm
don’t make plans for Wednesday folks


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 27, 2021, 12:20:22 pm
i think it would be much better if the game was off .
it’s a case of if the EFL will allow it .
Also , injuries as well as covid and not having been able to train .
The EFL would be on sticky ground if we tell them we can’t field a side with no manager or assistant and they force us to play when so many other games are postponed.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 27, 2021, 12:20:52 pm
don’t make plans for Wednesday folks
Good news that.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3063 on December 27, 2021, 12:26:20 pm
don’t make plans for Wednesday folks

Will the game at Swindon be on, or is that also a casualty?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Bingers on December 27, 2021, 12:34:05 pm
if this goes ahead , it might be sammo in charge ….

He's the greatest.

Sammo, Sammo!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 27, 2021, 12:42:08 pm
GAME OFF

https://www.sc***horpe-united.co.uk/news/2021/december/club-statement-iron-v-northampton-town-postponed/


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: West Stand on December 27, 2021, 12:44:04 pm
Gives us more time to get Etete fit...but for my well being it would have been good to have a game to listen too. It has field like a long Christmas.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Coolcat on December 27, 2021, 13:45:51 pm
Pretty poor from NTFC in managing this. The players responsible for getting themselves positive - what the Hell have so many carelessly been doing?

AFC Wimbledon have sent a letter to the EFL saying as much - they have one of the smallest budgets in League One, thus impacting upon their measures in place as well as squad numbers, located in London, the country's hotspot for infections, yet have managed efficiently and responsibly enough to get games on...let down by Big Time Charlies, Charlton Athletic and Winter Wonderland visitors prior to their game at AFC, Pompey!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: CobblerForever on December 27, 2021, 13:49:37 pm
It looks like we are expecting to field a side against Swindon

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-reveals-covid-has-hit-cobblers-hard-after-another-postponement-3507977


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 27, 2021, 16:00:18 pm
Apparently Leeds were 100% vaccinated and still had too many players who tested positive or were injured...the virus isn't consistent in its selection...  ;)


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest2995 on December 27, 2021, 16:09:10 pm
Pretty poor from NTFC in managing this. The players responsible for getting themselves positive - what the Hell have so many carelessly been doing?

AFC Wimbledon have sent a letter to the EFL saying as much - they have one of the smallest budgets in League One, thus impacting upon their measures in place as well as squad numbers, located in London, the country's hotspot for infections, yet have managed efficiently and responsibly enough to get games on...let down by Big Time Charlies, Charlton Athletic and Winter Wonderland visitors prior to their game at AFC, Pompey!

probably the most pathetic comment i have seen on here .
You cannot manage Covid at this level or in any business.
Many of the players live together and the whole management team got it .
If you think fielding a team of 18 year olds is preferable to postponement , you need to take a look at yourself


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Coolcat on December 27, 2021, 16:27:31 pm
probably the most pathetic comment i have seen on here .
You cannot manage Covid at this level or in any business.
Many of the players live together and the whole management team got it .
If you think fielding a team of 18 year olds is preferable to postponement , you need to take a look at yourself
Idiot is back!

You can manage in as much as taking necessary precautions, whether being careful when and where players and staff are, being fully vaccinated goes a long way!
Of course, you know better - though as shown on this forum many times, you don't - but fancy yourself as some itk guru!
I'll take Wimbledon's 'take' on things over Guru Idiot thanks.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 27, 2021, 16:33:19 pm
Apparently Leeds were 100% vaccinated and still had too many players who tested positive or were injured...the virus isn't consistent in its selection...  ;)

Neither was JFH   ;D


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 27, 2021, 16:37:27 pm
Idiot is back!

You can manage in as much as taking necessary precautions, whether being careful when and where players and staff are, being fully vaccinated goes a long way!
Of course, you know better - though as shown on this forum many times, you don't - but fancy yourself as some itk guru!
I'll take Wimbledon's 'take' on things over Guru Idiot thanks.

Even being jabbed three times dont stop you catching the pox. It just reduces the severity of symptoms (in some cases not unfortunately).




Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest49 on December 27, 2021, 16:56:27 pm
Everything is pointing towards the virus getting milder with each variant. It doesn’t appear to be going away. I hope the government hold their nerve. The majority are tripled jabbed or young/well enough to quickly get over it. I can understand why footballers at close quarters are more susceptible to spreading it but maybe stop tonguing each other after a goal.
Very sadly more will continue to die, as people do everyday but we haven’t felt the full knock on damage to people’s lives and the economy yet. That’s without the other health conditions that have been neglected and undiagnosed whilst this has been going on.

At least we’ll be top three for a while!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: CobblerForever on December 27, 2021, 17:08:12 pm
Everything is pointing towards the virus getting milder with each variant. It doesn’t appear to be going away. I hope the government hold their nerve. The majority are tripled jabbed or young/well enough to quickly get over it. I can understand why footballers at close quarters are more susceptible to spreading it but maybe stop tonguing each other after a goal.
Very sadly more will continue to die, as people do everyday but we haven’t felt the full knock on damage to people’s lives and the economy yet. That’s without the other health conditions that have been neglected and undiagnosed whilst this has been going on.

At least we’ll be top three for a while!

Wise words cobblertone.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on December 27, 2021, 18:06:50 pm
Neither was JFH   ;D

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: RowN on December 27, 2021, 19:04:14 pm
JFH Wasn’t he shot be Lee Harvey Oswald, oops JFK. Mind you I would have shot JFH too!!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 27, 2021, 20:20:54 pm
Everything is pointing towards the virus getting milder with each variant. It doesn’t appear to be going away. I hope the government hold their nerve. The majority are tripled jabbed or young/well enough to quickly get over it. I can understand why footballers at close quarters are more susceptible to spreading it but maybe stop tonguing each other after a goal.
Very sadly more will continue to die, as people do everyday but we haven’t felt the full knock on damage to people’s lives and the economy yet. That’s without the other health conditions that have been neglected and undiagnosed whilst this has been going on.

At least we’ll be top three for a while!

It might be best to quantify your opening statement as the sheer scale of Omicron infections might still be a danger to the NHS:
Recent analysis show Omicron maybe less virulent than Delta but infections are far higher now.
Non vaccinated people are main cause of the rise of hospitaiizations - apparently in the 30-45 age group.
Still more study required on the New Variant.
Also AstraZenca gives better protection against death than both Pfizer and Moderna;  see link   https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582
 


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 27, 2021, 20:42:44 pm
It might be best to quantify your opening statement as the sheer scale of Omicron infections might still be a danger to the NHS:
Recent analysis show Omicron maybe less virulent than Delta but infections are far higher now.
Non vaccinated people are main cause of the rise of hospitaiizations - apparently in the 30-45 age group.
Still more study required on the New Variant.
Also AstraZenca gives better protection against death than both Pfizer and Moderna; see https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582ee   see link on this.

 

Its great to have ''the learned one'' on here, hes such a bible of knowledge..


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 27, 2021, 20:58:08 pm
Its great to have ''the learned one'' on here, hes such a bible of knowledge..

Can only assume you read BJM and Lancet hence the link. It’s fascinating really ::) Better than the Mirror ;D


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3063 on December 27, 2021, 21:11:34 pm
Can only assume you read BJM and Lancet hence the link. It’s fascinating really ::) Better than the Mirror ;D

Published 21st October before the Omicron variant. So rather irrelevant.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 27, 2021, 21:22:35 pm
Can only assume you read BJM and Lancet hence the link. It’s fascinating really ::) Better than the Mirror ;D

Yes, the BJM that well known medical publication (on midwifery) -  Evers as always pontificating on things he knows nothing about but never shy of offering an opinion.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Welly Cobb on December 27, 2021, 21:55:23 pm
There's more games off tommorow than on, this isn't an exceptional Cobblers problem, just a factor from the level of cases.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 28, 2021, 09:10:19 am
Published 21st October before the Omicron variant. So rather irrelevant.

Your right but it was updated in December 21. The actual study was before the emergence of Omicron. I like the idea of a British Vaccines better than the USA vaccines
Rule Britannia..


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 28, 2021, 10:10:25 am
Your right but it was updated in December 21. The actual study was before the emergence of Omicron. I like the idea of a British Vaccines better than the USA vaccines
Rule Britannia..
Rule Britannia indeed Evers, did you know over half the world’s population was part of the British Empire.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest49 on December 28, 2021, 10:54:03 am
Gives us more time to get Etete fit.

It’ll be 5 weeks so you’d hope he isn’t too far off and not been on the Quality Street.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 28, 2021, 17:11:35 pm
Rule Britannia indeed Evers, did you know over half the world’s population was part of the British Empire.

Good and Just point Manny. Clearly the Worlds trouble regions must regret the waning of British Power in Yemen, Persia, Israel, Syria, Mesopotamia, Nigeria (they owe Coolie Millions), Argentina etc etc. What do you reckon Manny, who do you blame for this decline?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 28, 2021, 20:40:30 pm
Rule Britannia indeed Evers, did you know over half the world’s population was part of the British Empire.
1/4 of the global map....and they fkn hate hate us now...travel and see. Brits are classed as pirates that raped and pillaged...


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 28, 2021, 21:40:26 pm
Good and Just point Manny. Clearly the Worlds trouble regions must regret the waning of British Power in Yemen, Persia, Israel, Syria, Mesopotamia, Nigeria (they owe Coolie Millions), Argentina etc etc. What do you reckon Manny, who do you blame for this decline?

And now all those brown types are coming over here in boats across the channel. Don’t they know that exploitation is a one way street?
Never mind Evers and Manny, Brexit is the first important step in re-gaining our much loved and missed Empire. Better that we go over there to **** their land and steal their treasures rather than some dirty foreigners come over here and claim £25 a week from our benefit system!
God is certainly an Englishman. It’s only a matter of time until the whole world map is red again and Boris will indeed achieve his much publicised boyhood ambition to be King of the World. I can think of no one better qualifed for the job. Come on … just like Brexit - let’s get it done!
PS Evers, for someone that pretends they know stuff you really don’t do you?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 29, 2021, 07:08:32 am
Without getting into the off topic subject of the British Empire (to which there are many positive and negative points) - it would seem Evers, previously caught bang to right on a couple of other issues is clearly trying to make statements to attach himself to the coat tails of Manny, who he seemingly admires as a role model on such subjects.
His hypocrisy is astonishing- he accuses others of commenting on political issues on a football issues, he suggests a joke about naivety and Nigerian businessmen is “ungentlemanly” but uses the very same line himself.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 29, 2021, 07:17:53 am
1/4 of the global map....and they fkn hate hate us now...travel and see. Brits are classed as pirates that raped and pillaged...

When people make statements like this I’d love to know the countries they have actually travelled too - my experience is the  the vast majority of the world’s population that have any knowledge of the British actually love and respect us - sadly the respect is starting to diminish but much more due to recent actions rather than any of the rights or wrongs of the British Empire.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3086 on December 29, 2021, 07:43:59 am
Without getting into the off topic subject of the British Empire (to which there are many positive and negative points) - it would seem Evers, previously caught bang to right on a couple of other issues is clearly trying to make statements to attach himself to the coat tails of Manny, who he seemingly admires as a role model on such subjects.
His hypocrisy is astonishing- he accuses others of commenting on political issues on a football issues, he suggests a joke about naivety and Nigerian businessmen is “ungentlemanly” but uses the very same line himself.

I have noticed that too. Whilst he is happy to bang most of us to rights (in his cluttered mind) he appears to attach himself to the class bullies. The ones who really need pegging back.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 29, 2021, 09:12:16 am
When people make statements like this I’d love to know the countries they have actually travelled too - my experience is the  the vast majority of the world’s population that have any knowledge of the British actually love and respect us - sadly the respect is starting to diminish but much more due to recent actions rather than any of the rights or wrongs of the British Empire.

57 actually...so I am well versed in locals opinions..


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 09:21:30 am
And now all those brown types are coming over here in boats across the channel. Don’t they know that exploitation is a one way street?
Never mind Evers and Manny, Brexit is the first important step in re-gaining our much loved and missed Empire. Better that we go over there to **** their land and steal their treasures rather than some dirty foreigners come over here and claim £25 a week from our benefit system!
God is certainly an Englishman. It’s only a matter of time until the whole world map is red again and Boris will indeed achieve his much publicised boyhood ambition to be King of the World. I can think of no one better qualifed for the job. Come on … just like Brexit - let’s get it done!
PS Evers, for someone that pretends they know stuff you really don’t do you?

Personally I think you missed out on school along with smoking boots. The point is my comment was specifically for Manwork you can’t just wait to wave the red flag!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 09:26:33 am
When people make statements like this I’d love to know the countries they have actually travelled too - my experience is the  the vast majority of the world’s population that have any knowledge of the British actually love and respect us - sadly the respect is starting to diminish but much more due to recent actions rather than any of the rights or wrongs of the British Empire.

I partially agree with some of this!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 09:35:33 am
1/4 of the global map....and they fkn hate hate us now...travel and see. Brits are classed as pirates that raped and pillaged...

Should join in the walk might help your state of mind! Ignore windups!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2021, 09:36:28 am
And now all those brown types are coming over here in boats across the channel. Don’t they know that exploitation is a one way street?
Never mind Evers and Manny, Brexit is the first important step in re-gaining our much loved and missed Empire. Better that we go over there to **** their land and steal their treasures rather than some dirty foreigners come over here and claim £25 a week from our benefit system!
God is certainly an Englishman. It’s only a matter of time until the whole world map is red again and Boris will indeed achieve his much publicised boyhood ambition to be King of the World. I can think of no one better qualifed for the job. Come on … just like Brexit - let’s get it done!
PS Evers, for someone that pretends they know stuff you really don’t do you?
May I address a few points there Jim, firstly under the Geneva convention political asylum should be gained in the first safe country e.g. Turkey, they are receiving billions from the EU to build camps and eventually re house these poor people.
You are indeed correct that God was British and therefore granted us sovereignty of the world indeed we still own a large percentage including Canada and Australia.
The days of Empire are sadly over but we still have the commonwealth and indeed a lot of our trade deals are with our former Empire of which we are culturally and morally aligned.
This is why our GDP output for next year is forecast to be higher than the EU. 😎


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2021, 09:45:34 am
Good and Just point Manny. Clearly the Worlds trouble regions must regret the waning of British Power in Yemen, Persia, Israel, Syria, Mesopotamia, Nigeria (they owe Coolie Millions), Argentina etc etc. What do you reckon Manny, who do you blame for this decline?
Good morning Evers old chum, These people wanted the right to run their own country which is fair enough I suppose, unfortunately most of them haven’t the slightest clue how to do this and therefore are either incompetent and or corrupt.
South Africa, and Egypt are cases in point.
The blame is solely at the door of corrupt governments.
As for socialist values I give you Venezuela the model of a socialist state.
As Margaret used to say socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money. 😎


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 29, 2021, 10:03:29 am
57 actually...so I am well versed in locals opinions..

Interesting view - a wise man once told me when I started regularly visiting India - “the more you find out about this country and it’s people the more you realise how little you know”


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 29, 2021, 10:14:34 am
Good morning Evers old chum, These people wanted the right to run their own country which is fair enough I suppose, unfortunately most of them haven’t the slightest clue how to do this and therefore are either incompetent and or corrupt.

Yes,  I agree to a point but the bigger picture is the cyclical nature of advanced civilisation - the British Empire certainly had a massive presence and influence at the time but, for example turn the clock back and empires like the Romans and Egyptians had a considerable more developed society than the British at the time - so just using a chunk of history to support a superiority complex doesn’t really hold up.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: 1971cobbler on December 29, 2021, 10:45:57 am
Meanwhile, any further news on the Swindon game?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on December 29, 2021, 11:13:53 am
May I address a few points there Jim, firstly under the Geneva convention political asylum should be gained in the first safe country e.g. Turkey, they are receiving billions from the EU to build camps and eventually re house these poor people.
You are indeed correct that God was British and therefore granted us sovereignty of the world indeed we still own a large percentage including Canada and Australia.
The days of Empire are sadly over but we still have the commonwealth and indeed a lot of our trade deals are with our former Empire of which we are culturally and morally aligned.
This is why our GDP output for next year is forecast to be higher than the EU. 😎

Oh Manny. There you go again getting your news feed from GB News. This is from the Uk Gvt website - presumably signed off by your mate BoJo:
“ 19. (...). Whilst international law does not provide an unrestricted right to choose where to apply for asylum, there is no requirement under international law for asylum-seekers to seek protection in the first safe country they reach. This expectation would undermine the global humanitarian and cooperative principles on which refugee protection is founded, as emphasized by the 1951 Convention and recently reaffirmed by the General Assembly, including the UK, in the Global Compact on Refugees. It would impose an arbitrary and disproportionate burden on countries in the immediate region(s) of flight and threaten the capacity and willingness of those countries to properly process claims or provide acceptable reception conditions and durable solutions. This would (and does) threaten to make these first countries, in turn, unsafe and encourage onward movement.”

Yes we should be talking about the Swindon game but as a wise man once said …
“These days lies can be half way around the world before the truth gets its pants on”

Good news though that the Cobbs finish the year in the top 2! UTC.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 11:31:03 am
Oh Manny. There you go again getting your news feed from GB News. This is from the Uk Gvt website - presumably signed off by your mate BoJo:
“ 19. (...). Whilst international law does not provide an unrestricted right to choose where to apply for asylum, there is no requirement under international law for asylum-seekers to seek protection in the first safe country they reach. This expectation would undermine the global humanitarian and cooperative principles on which refugee protection is founded, as emphasized by the 1951 Convention and recently reaffirmed by the General Assembly, including the UK, in the Global Compact on Refugees. It would impose an arbitrary and disproportionate burden on countries in the immediate region(s) of flight and threaten the capacity and willingness of those countries to properly process claims or provide acceptable reception conditions and durable solutions. This would (and does) threaten to make these first countries, in turn, unsafe and encourage onward movement.”

Yes we should be talking about the Swindon game but as a wise man once said …
“These days lies can be half way around the world before the truth gets its pants on”

Good news though that the Cobbs finish the year in the top 2! UTC.

Don't like the way China is treating Hong Kong!


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2021, 11:34:59 am
Yes,  I agree to a point but the bigger picture is the cyclical nature of advanced civilisation - the British Empire certainly had a massive presence and influence at the time but, for example turn the clock back and empires like the Romans and Egyptians had a considerable more developed society than the British at the time - so just using a chunk of history to support a superiority complex doesn’t really hold up.
Afternoon Peter, I see and agree your point, although you also have to overlay what society was like at the time and what was acceptable.
The British Empire was the biggest and generally a force for good.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: GrangeParkCobbler on December 29, 2021, 11:46:09 am
Meanwhile, any further news on the Swindon game?

You want the football forum for that sort of news…..hang on, I’ll try and locate the website address….. ;D


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2021, 11:46:25 am
Oh Manny. There you go again getting your news feed from GB News. This is from the Uk Gvt website - presumably signed off by your mate BoJo:
“ 19. (...). Whilst international law does not provide an unrestricted right to choose where to apply for asylum, there is no requirement under international law for asylum-seekers to seek protection in the first safe country they reach. This expectation would undermine the global humanitarian and cooperative principles on which refugee protection is founded, as emphasized by the 1951 Convention and recently reaffirmed by the General Assembly, including the UK, in the Global Compact on Refugees. It would impose an arbitrary and disproportionate burden on countries in the immediate region(s) of flight and threaten the capacity and willingness of those countries to properly process claims or provide acceptable reception conditions and durable solutions. This would (and does) threaten to make these first countries, in turn, unsafe and encourage onward movement.”

Yes we should be talking about the Swindon game but as a wise man once said …
“These days lies can be half way around the world before the truth gets its pants on”

Good news though that the Cobbs finish the year in the top 2! UTC.
You might like to check out the Nationality and Borders bill……anyway up the Cobbs
COYC.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: The 12th Marquis of Sixfields on December 29, 2021, 16:13:05 pm
You might like to check out the Nationality and Borders bill
And so might you - it hasn't even reached the final stages yet so is nowhere being law yet


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 16:18:22 pm
Yes,  I agree to a point but the bigger picture is the cyclical nature of advanced civilisation - the British Empire certainly had a massive presence and influence at the time but, for example turn the clock back and empires like the Romans and Egyptians had a considerable more developed society than the British at the time - so just using a chunk of history to support a superiority complex doesn’t really hold up.

Very subjective opinion but mostly a lot of  tosh. Like the way you ignore the Hellenic age.  


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3086 on December 29, 2021, 18:22:24 pm
Very subjective opinion but mostly a lot of  tosh. Like the way you ignore the Hellenic age.  

Err, all opinions are subjective. That is why they are opinions.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 29, 2021, 18:46:07 pm
Don't like the way China is treating Hong Kong!

Having spent some great nights in Wanchi after spending the evening at Happy Valley..I agree with you entirely..


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 29, 2021, 18:48:55 pm
Interesting view - a wise man once told me when I started regularly visiting India - “the more you find out about this country and it’s people the more you realise how little you know”

Try getting some more air miles and getting out and about...


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Smoking Boots on December 29, 2021, 18:51:10 pm
Interesting view - a wise man once told me when I started regularly visiting India - “the more you find out about this country and it’s people the more you realise how little you know”

Will we see Manwork04, wear a shirt with his red hand of Ulster on in Dublin on a Saturday night.. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Manwork04 on December 29, 2021, 19:05:29 pm
Will we see Manwork04, wear a shirt with his red hand of Ulster on in Dublin on a Saturday night.. ;D ;D
I’ve had many a good night in Dublin, no problems now if you’d have said Londonderry in the bogside……


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest2995 on December 29, 2021, 20:31:20 pm
Idiot is back!

You can manage in as much as taking necessary precautions, whether being careful when and where players and staff are, being fully vaccinated goes a long way!
Of course, you know better - though as shown on this forum many times, you don't - but fancy yourself as some itk guru!
I'll take Wimbledon's 'take' on things over Guru Idiot thanks.
love it how you spectacularly make a fool of yourself in public time after time ….


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: everbrite on December 29, 2021, 21:04:38 pm
You really are incapable of combining reading with comprehension aren’t you

Let me try to make it clearer for you

It’s not subjective to say, for example the Romans were considerably more advanced than the Brits at the time of the Roman Empire- it’s an indisputable fact.
I appreciate when someone answers you with facts you rush to Google to try and make a clever comment but examples  are examples by definition and don’t include all cases and I’m not ignoring Hellenic or indeed any number of far reaching historical empires as for folks with a modicum of intelligence it was not necessary to publish a long list to illustrate a point.

Facts are an anathema to some on this forum and probably rightly so. You could at least have inserted 'The Hellenic' age as part of your argument. The trouble with your method of argument is that your facts are inevitably subjective by nature. In my opinion you are here to bore people with outlandish loony left wing pronouncements and in the process doing more harm to the aspirations of the Labour Party of Gaitskell, Wilson and Atlee; even Starmer. Your claim of a more established society in Egypt and Rome as opposed to 18/19th Century Great Britain is as subjective to the point of ridicule. 
Look forward to your next piece of rehearsed intelligentsia?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on December 30, 2021, 07:54:32 am
Your claim of a more established society in Egypt and Rome as opposed to 18/19th Century Great Britain is as subjective to the point of ridicule. 

Which sadly once again shows your inability to read - at no time did I compare Egypt and Rome to the 18/19th century - my comparison was “at the time” the Romans were conquering a large part of the world and the Egyptians were building pyramids (which just to help you, was a few years before the 18th Century).
 This comparison, by far more learned scholars than either you or me is not conjecture or opinion but is in fact reality  based on a myriad of definitions on what constitutes advanced civilisations.

I’m tempted to quote Monty Python on this one but I won’t 😀.

Please also help me with even one actual example of an outlandish Loony left pronouncement- or are you making that up as well?

There is really no point in engaging in a discussion with me if you are incapable of comprehension of fairly basic English.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: singcobb on January 01, 2022, 14:05:24 pm
When people make statements like this I’d love to know the countries they have actually travelled too - my experience is the  the vast majority of the world’s population that have any knowledge of the British actually love and respect us - sadly the respect is starting to diminish but much more due to recent actions rather than any of the rights or wrongs of the British Empire.

Couldn't agree more with this having spent well over half my life working overseas, one of the biggest wave of change in feelings towards the UK came when the war criminal Blair licked Bush's árse and took us into an illegal war.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: guest3338 on January 01, 2022, 14:18:34 pm
Couldn't agree more with this having spent well over half my life working overseas, one of the biggest wave of change in feelings towards the UK came when the war criminal Blair licked Bush's árse and took us into an illegal war.
Yep,
Never gonna win Eurovision again.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 01, 2022, 16:28:42 pm
Couldn't agree more with this having spent well over half my life working overseas, one of the biggest wave of change in feelings towards the UK came when the war criminal Blair licked Bush's árse and took us into an illegal war.

Knighthood?


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: singcobb on January 01, 2022, 16:46:58 pm
Knighthood?

Fúcking travesty


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on January 02, 2022, 11:23:31 am
Couldn't agree more with this having spent well over half my life working overseas, one of the biggest wave of change in feelings towards the UK came when the war criminal Blair licked Bush's árse and took us into an illegal war.

Good spot mate - I expected people to latch onto my comment and start a pro/anti Brexit cause and reason (although it hasn’t helped), but that certainly was not the start of the decline in respect for the UK. I still to this day cannot understand Blair’s motives. Just to put a little balance into the discussion though, Cameron’s intervention in Libya, whilst less publicised had massive negative consequences.
Nonetheless taking all the above into account I still feel there is considerable respect and liking for the British people worldwide.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: singcobb on January 02, 2022, 12:00:48 pm
Good spot mate - I expected people to latch onto my comment and start a pro/anti Brexit cause and reason (although it hasn’t helped), but that certainly was not the start of the decline in respect for the UK. I still to this day cannot understand Blair’s motives. Just to put a little balance into the discussion though, Cameron’s intervention in Libya, whilst less publicised had massive negative consequences.
Nonetheless taking all the above into account I still feel there is considerable respect and liking for the British people worldwide.

Strangely enough my Arab friends had a very positive take on the Libya intervention, Gadaffi didn't have many friends in the Arab World.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on January 03, 2022, 13:29:03 pm
Strangely enough my Arab friends had a very positive take on the Libya intervention, Gadaffi didn't have many friends in the Arab World.

Agreed, but also there were plenty of Middle East nations that were quite happy to see Saddam toppled. I think the real point, whilst we don't like some of the despots running these countries, short term intervention to try and bring about western style democracies simply doesn't work. These despots tend to control a myriad of warring factions (typically with an iron fist) and sadly without this control the normal outcome is protracted civil war


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: singcobb on January 03, 2022, 19:09:15 pm
Agreed, but also there were plenty of Middle East nations that were quite happy to see Saddam toppled. I think the real point, whilst we don't like some of the despots running these countries, short term intervention to try and bring about western style democracies simply doesn't work. These despots tend to control a myriad of warring factions (typically with an iron fist) and sadly without this control the normal outcome is protracted civil war

Bear in mind that the anti Saddam campaign was led by the Kuwaitis and the Saudis. Saddam had a very legitimate reason to invade Kuwait. They were stealing Iraqi oil and he had warned them on many occasions about this.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: Peter Frost on January 04, 2022, 10:00:43 am
Bear in mind that the anti Saddam campaign was led by the Kuwaitis and the Saudis. Saddam had a very legitimate reason to invade Kuwait. They were stealing Iraqi oil and he had warned them on many occasions about this.

Yes, I had a friend in Kuwait at the time and was very aware of the risk (he actually had to flee Kuwait with a young family driving all the way to ****stan via back roads in Iraq) - good to discuss with someone who has knowledge beyond the politically driven media headlines or people’s own political bias.
Back to Tony Blair - I still think for the majority of his terms he was a descent Prime Minister - unfortunately the Iraq decision was a terrible mistake (Did he deliberately lie or was he misinformed? - people will make their own minds up on that) either way, the consequences were terrible for so many people and for that alone the knighthood seems entirely inappropriate.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: singcobb on January 04, 2022, 19:19:53 pm
Yes, I had a friend in Kuwait at the time and was very aware of the risk (he actually had to flee Kuwait with a young family driving all the way to ****stan via back roads in Iraq) - good to discuss with someone who has knowledge beyond the politically driven media headlines or people’s own political bias.
Back to Tony Blair - I still think for the majority of his terms he was a descent Prime Minister - unfortunately the Iraq decision was a terrible mistake (Did he deliberately lie or was he misinformed? - people will make their own minds up on that) either way, the consequences were terrible for so many people and for that alone the knighthood seems entirely inappropriate.

In Bahrain they built a whole new town for Kuwaiti refugees, mind you it did cost Kuwait and Saudi some oil concessions later in the day.


Title: Re: Scun thorpe United (a) Wed 29th December
Post by: southofthecounty on January 19, 2022, 20:36:39 pm
Good spot mate - I expected people to latch onto my comment and start a pro/anti Brexit cause and reason (although it hasn’t helped), but that certainly was not the start of the decline in respect for the UK. I still to this day cannot understand Blair’s motives. Just to put a little balance into the discussion though, Cameron’s intervention in Libya, whilst less publicised had massive negative consequences.
Nonetheless taking all the above into account I still feel there is considerable respect and liking for the British people worldwide.
His motive was fundamental Christianity. He saw it as "Good V Bad". A continuation of the Crusades. Never trust anyone prone to believing superstition.