The Hotel End

Some with social media may see some posts/links for Teyn Away Days or indeed our website


Teyn Away Days has been formed as many passengers of Trust travel were not comfortable for the travel club to be associated with the Trust due to the relationship that the trust has with the football club or because of the current actions of the Trust and still wanted to travel as the football family we have become.

Teen away days? You have prince Andrew signing up?

For a minute I thought I had a spelling error and had put teen but I can see that my spellings were indeed correct . Phew !

Yet another Travel Club ?? Doesn't make much sense to me, soon everyone who drives will become there own travel club  ???

What a nonsense. Founded on a negative. Should be ashamed. And what's with the Teyn bollocks?

Good idea, always room for a Travel Club for Supporters

Including ones that travel under the Barton flag?

Some of you big shots have never been on Jimbo's Coach and yet here you are giving your expert opinions. Its just like some Punters shouting the odds after a poor away performance. On Jimbo's coach you can even listen to the European Song Contest which for me went down well after the Barrow game!

Wish I'd been on it. ;D

Does it matter how many there is? The fact that it doesn't makes sense to you may be half the problem though.

What a nonsense - Why is it doing any harm?
Should be ashamed - what for doing what supporters want?
Teyn Bollocks  - If you are a Northamptonian you should know

Founded on a negative - No founded because the group don't want to be be connected to the Trust.

Good news though Evers Jimbo will be running Teyn Away Days so we can continue shouting the odds.

Pity you didn't have the balls to say anything on the coach back from Barrow, when I asked if anyone had any problems, still it's easy to say things from behind a keyboard isn't it ?
    Maybe the problem might have been that I put in a lot of time and effort in helping to run a travel club, at my own expense, only to have two faced people post snide remarks on here that are totally uncalled for.  :(

I have not made any snide remarks against you Roger  I just put a post out to say that we were running a separate travel club. No bad feelings on my part - on the coach you asked me about a the quiz and not if there were any problems - I don’t hide behind a keyboard my picture of who I am is clear to see.
Jim and Barry did speak to you about this at Barrow.
I don’t feel this needs to be anything other than a group going there own way.
The work and effort you have put in is not in dispute.

Surely even you can see it’s spelt differently?

“When it comes to spelling, it's not all black and white. Gray and grey are both common spellings of the color between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English.”
Hope this helps why, when our group of friends started to bring the word back into use in 2003, we put it on social media as Teyn.
The Chron adopted it for the front page headline for Wembley and it took off.


Get your dictionary out and see if you can find pedantic…

Great to see a new travel club and love the name!

I have to say, I've never got the "teyn" spelling. Despite having lived my whole life in Northampton, having a bit of a local accent myself and having parents that come from generations of Northamptonians (whose accents my wife regularly remarks on the broadness of) I've never picked up on an "ey" sound in the middle of the word town. A slightly cropped "ow" maybe or even an "ew" at a push, but not an "ey".

So if you don't want to travel with the Trust out of 'principle' why not travel on another bus? If you want to set up your own bus why poke the Trust at all in your introduction? So tell me about 'teyn' then in Northampton's history.

4 travel clubs is not enough, 3 before, frankly for me was an embarrassment. Separate coaches for fans supporting the same club. unreal

Why don't you want to be connected to the Trust exactly?  Because they are taking steps to protect the medium and long term of the football - again unreal - Steps that Barry even voted for !!! Then is unable to explain to some on the bus why this action was necessary !!!

After all that Roger and the Trust have done for you and the club over the many years, you can't have a meeting to air your concerns and get more information before jumping ship, or is it amount control and money????

 

People will travel to away games by whatever method, and with who, they want. The suggestion that everyone should travel with the same travel club is laughable. That suggestion didn't go down well many years ago.

I would be annoyed if I was the organiser of Trust Travel, but people are free to travel whoever they like.

I know what you mean but as we all share a common goal, you would have thought 2 travel clubs would be plenty

Just thought a clear the air meeting should have been the 1st call.

I'd say it's about consequences.

Follow the Mounties.

And then Marvo’s breakaway bus!!

As if the day could not get any worse..

Just to set the record straight, "Marvo's bus" WERE the coaches going under the name "Mounties" named after the place they picked up. The breakaway coach was actually from Jimmy's end, a double decker. The very first coach,an Alec Heads bus from the Mounts was to Aldershot I believe in 1979 though I couldn't swear to that. After Marvo packed up the running of the coaches passed to John White and Les Arnold. At first the coaches were run independently but Marvo was approached by the club to become the official supporters club bus in the era when Derek Banks was chairman. I've no idea why or when they stopped running or whether they amalgamated into another "Brand".

As far as the debate is concerned, I think you need different operators because of different needs. Some people like to have a drink on the way to a game, others are not bothered and like to leave later, possibly because of their own situation, maybe working. Some coaches suit the youngsters that like a noisy singalong, some suit the older more quieter clientele. I think there has always been room for more than one, however it would make sense for them to work together in cases where there is either overspill or not enough fans travelling. Maybe this already happens, I don't know.

My first away days were with Bill Cowies Jimmies end buses, since then it was with Normans Indies.

Went to Swindon via the Mounts Pick up point about 79/81

Sorry Martin but I think this is a snide comment. I stood up at the front of the coach coming back from Barrow and asked if anyone had problems with the Trust, the stooge 2 rows in front of you stood up and I asked him what the problem was , his answer was "I don't trust them" and he then turned to the rest of the coach like he'd cracked the best joke ever !! So I asked he what didn't he trust and his answer was "I just don't trust them" so there wasn't a lot of point pursuing that conversation. I asked Jim and Barry where would any profits go but didn't receive an answer. I also pointed out the Trust travel hadn't donated any money to the Trust and that was an option that could continue until things became clearer, if that's what the majority wanted
         At the end of the Mansfield game it was left that we would all attend a meeting to try to sort everything out then a week or so later we see Teyn Travel announced saying they have no connection with the Trust but I notice that you are using "Cobblers Travel" on your webpage which is the name that Trust Cobblers Travel use, I think you should remove that ASAP other wise people might get confused. But, best of all your treasurer is a Trust board member and the treasurer of Trust Cobblers Travel !!!!!! He is still the signatory on the cheque books and should have been banking the cash from the Mansfield trip, conflict of interests ??
        I don't have a problem with another breakaway group but I do have a problem with the underhanded way you've gone about it. Like I said in my previous post, a lot of two faced people involved and I'm very disappointed with some people who I thought were honourable and I trusted in the past.

Same here. I'm a Northamptonian and don't get it either. A bit like that song "to his horse" or whatever it is. I never get that either and I've been supporting the club for over 40 years. Maybe someone could explain its relevance to NTFC?

Item number 17 on the list.
https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/youre-not-really-from-northampton-if-you-havent-done-these-19-things-3281458?page=5
Google is your friend. Use it wisely and it will reveal. As for "to his horse" or "knock kneed chicken" or "sweet molly malone" or "hawaii 50" to Woody, who cares? just join in and support your team.

No. I don't sing along if I don't like the lyrics or it's not relevant, support comes in many guises my friend. I've done more than my fair share of supporting in the last 44 years.

As for the TEYN thing, still none the wiser but thanks for trying.

Must admit not keen on the "horse" song although in the '76 Dodgin promotion year we sang it with the words "Saying goodbye to the fourth." Maybe it stems from that and it sounded better. As for not getting the teyn thing, surely you've heard the phrase; "Gooing deyn teyn in me breyn treysers."  Seynds very Northamptonian me old duck.

Apparently if you are unaware of the 'teyn' bollocks then you ain't a true Northamptonian I have been told by the Husk. I can go back at least 4 generations of my family living in Northampton and although I have managed to escape I have absolutely no recollection of the term.

Well in all my years of supporting the Cobblers, spanning nearly 70 years... this chant comes. from a random view on the Supporters Coach ....."of looking out the bus windows and seeing a guy stabling his horse ".... as simple as that. In those days the chants were more improvised & spontaneous !!

I've heard it now  ;D Only taken 54 years. Everyday's a school day.

I remember clearly that Marvo started organising coaches having broken away from travelling with the Mounties in early 1988...in fact me and a mate were on our way to the Mounts to catch a Mounties coach, to Bury I think it was, when we were approached by other Cobblers fans saying "come on our coach"...... that was the Marvo organised one and we then went on that coach for all the remaining games of the 1987-88 season. John White and Les Arnold were already running the Mounties coaches at this time and had been for a couple of seasons.

You are quite a newcomer then😎

The best chant was the ‘undefeated’  simple to sing which got better as the winning just kept going. Did well to keep going after Holmes left! Personally I thought he made a big mistake in leaving.

Not everyone is a super supporter like you evers.

Must admit, that's a new one on me. " Don't you remember the "76 chant? That's the first time I remember hearing it.

You're wrong and with all due respect, I should know.  ;)

At one point in the Cobblers History, there was no official supporters bus. There used to be one you could book on to in the offices at Abington Road opposite the County Ground but more often than not this was cancelled as they would only run it if enough people were on board to make a profit.  I met Ian Naylor who was the son of a train guard and we went to Walsall near the end of the 1978/9 season on the train (we lost 1-5). That gave us the prompt to start travelling regularly and we started going in a couple of cars, me and Ian, Lee Geary, John Lucas, Tim French, Chris Bull, "Squaddie", "Caddie" etc,  then a mini-bus, then two mini-buses until we booked our first coach. It was so nearly a disaster, at the time we were supposed to leave there was only about 20 on it (a 53-seater) and with no finance behind us it was going to be too expensive. However a quick call out on Radio Northampton telling people about the bus and low and behold half a dozen more turned up and then a Post Office guy Pete Folwell arrived with a dozen more in tow. They were going to the game in an old van but heard the announcement and instead joined us. I think that was the only time we came close to cancelling a bus. Things went from strength to strength and it wasn't long before we had more coaches running. When that happened we needed more people to manage each coach and that's when John White, Les Arnold & Jim Tomlin became involved, although they were already regular travellers. Derek Banks became chairman of the club and one of his directors Mark Deane invited us to a meeting and asked us to become the official supporters club transport. Once that happened numbers grew including Alec and Eyelyn who used to run the supporters club. Jeema was a regular, as was Alan Jones. I ran the coaches for several years until I was made redundant as a train driver at Northampton and moved to work at Bedford. From that point on I no longer had the time to carry on so passed over the reigns to John, Les & Jim. I pretty much stopped going to away games after that. I have travelled on some other coaches from time to time and was once asked as a one-off to run one of the coaches when the Cobblers had a big game away from home with several coaches going. The only other coach I organised myself was actually for this forum, I recall Linda (Dragon Lady) had us all wearing name badges as most of us didn't know one another. That was a one-off. I'd stopped going away matches by the 1989/90 season, I know this for a fact as the Cobblers played at Birmingham and Aylesbury that season and annoyingly I have never seen the Cobblers at either. I go rarely now, just Harrogate & Barrow with Ginger and Alan Trudgill this season to cover the grounds. Wimbledon & with any luck, Solihull Moors next. Didn't go to Sixfields once but did watch every game on Ifollow. I've lost interest, no doubt about that. I keep hoping a new Richard Hill, Trevor Morley and Ian Benjamin will materialise to relight the fire but I've come to the conclusion Carr's was a once in a lifetime team, though in fairness Wilder came close.

You just cannot resist mentioning trains, can you?

I'm sure you've been going at least as long as I have, so surely remember the Town Hall coaches in the mid seventies, run by Pete Barry at one stage and then at least to around '79, including the famous York City trip and the Leeds United encounter. After that we used to have fairly regular trips from the White Elephant for a few years.

Right, what’s going on here? I distinctly remember the back end of the 87-88 season, Bury away was on my birthday and the first time I travelled on the non-Mounties coach, of which you were on too! Muddy, Glenn’y as well as Caddy were on the bus….you used to start the singing, song called ‘Allouette’ or something. I remember Brighton away…we stopped at the services, all piled out for food and then got rushed back onto the coach with plates of food, plastic trays, cuttlery the lot….and everything ended up going out of the coach skylights!! These coaches only ran till the end of that season……

Tell me I’m not going mad here!!

I was just making the point, I started the Mounties, I didn't follow on from them.

The thing that killed them off was other coaches starting to run, mainly on the close journeys where they could charge less, particularly the Jimmy's End bus which could seat 80+ I believe. The Mounties had eventually tried to make every trip cost the same, so cheaper going to Hartlepool but more expensive Peterborough and that decision proved fatal in the end.

Anyway, we're talking decades ago, I just wanted to set the record straight.

Sorry no but that's because after starting work at 16 in retail and working every Saturday I stopped going between 1972 to 1978. I do recall the notorious White Elephant coaches using Flanagan's buses, they were still around from time to time but usually for the bigger away games.

Ah, Flanagans. I was struggling to remember the name, from Corby I think. There were certainly some "characters" on those coaches!!

Indeed.  ;D

I think I told the story before but on one occasion we played at Oxford at their old Manor ground. There was quite a bit of trouble at the game and afterwards the supporters coaches, of which there were several were moved one by one from the ground to a nearby housing estate from where the plan was to be conveyed out away from Oxford. I was on the first coach to arrive at the assembly point which was full of the older generation, women and even a disabled supporter. We were met by a large crowd of Oxford supporters who had obviously known of the arrangement, probably from a previous game. Anyway they surrounded the coach, were banging on the windows, trying to entice us out which due to the clientele on the bus was never going to happen. When the second coach arrived they turned there attention to that. It was the White Elephant coach! Well, I don't know whether the evacuation from the bus was a world record but you'd have thought by witnessing it that the coach was on fire, such was the stampede off it. All hell broke loose and although outnumbered it was an even match until the next coach arrived (and the next) and the Oxford fans were overwhelmed. A large contingent of Police came to their rescue and they left with their tails between their legs. Everybody was put back on their buses and we were led on our way with a police escort front and back. We'd been going about 20 minutes when we were all pulled into a lay-by. The Police got on our bus, searched it, then moved on to the next. We were told they were looking for a Police dog that had gone missing in the melee and I don't know if this bit is true or not but legend has it they found it, sitting on the back seat of the White Elephant bus with a Cobblers scarf wrapped around its neck.  ;D ;D ;D

Very disappointing Marvo, but could you do us a little favour and keep up your log in on here with some top statistics and regular piss take of those who are taking life too seriously, just like the good old days.

Take care, miss you.  :-*

Oh the innocent days of our youth. The good old days. ;D ;D

Not correct as some I know have been going to away games since 1956/57. My first away game was Brighton which we won 4-1 with one R Mills having a belter. Must have been about 1959/60. The game I really remember was at Orient about 1963/4 when we graced the 2nd Division. Finished 0-0 in a sea of mud! Branston, Kurila were fantastic that day. Can remember the long line of coaches leaving the ground that day! Counted up to 11 but there were more!

What happens with the bank balance of the Cobblers Travel Club ( Trust Travel). Surely this doesn’t get taken across to the new venture.

Certain people think it should !!!
         A bit like someone runs a pub then someone else starts another pub next door and asks the original pub for last years profits, because their new customers used to drink in the original pub. Some of the "Breakaway group" really think this should happen  :o ??? :(

Ooops. Get that washing off the line, it’s still dirty.

I thought this had a good chance of getting messy as soon as I saw the first post.


Think this’ll be bedlam. I know all people involved as I used to use the Trust in my early away days. Sorry gents though, if you’ve chosen to move away and start your new group, you’ll need your own funding.

The webpage makes a big play that they are in no way connected to the Trust,                                                             apart from wanting to use the "Cobblers Travel" name and expecting the money that Trust Cobblers Travel made to go to them, but apart from that there is no connection !!!!!

Is Barry Collins that's part of the new travel club that's formed because they don't like the direction the Trust is going the same Barry Collins on the Trust Board that has taken the Trust in that direction?

This really has not been well thought out 😂 kudos for wanting to keep cobblers fans travelling to games. But I think if they want to split from the trust, not involving their money or a board member is the better direction to take.

My experiences of Barry, are that he has a much more conciliatory and affable approach to things than some. Perhaps (just perhaps  ;D) he has his finger on the pulse of the supporters of NTFC more than some.. NOT YOU BTW ROGER..

If people on the Trust are helping to set up a new travel group to rival Trust Travel, would, just possibly, the Trust take notice that even their own Board Members/ Members are starting to lose patience with the way they are being run ?

I ended up being a Marvo fan and hope he is back! If he is, it might draw a few recalcitrants back!

:)

It's just certain groups of people who go around on social media saying 'Teyn' and 'M'duck' because they think it makes them 'more' Northampton or like my mother's 89 year old friend who has lived her whole life in Northampton.
Bit like girls trying to assimilate with Essex life by retorting 'Shat ap' to almost everything said!

Regarding coaches and travel. The several times I've travelled with them, Trust easily the best in my opinion, if for nothing else than pick up points in Abington, Kingsthorpe etc so much more convenient than the other two, who seem to think the whole fanbase revolves around Daventry and Sixfields!
CISC and Trust do both have decent pub stops en-route to be fair!

You were either born in the boroughs, or you weren’t.

I mean… There’s those that claim that they were actually born under the Hotel End. I’ve heard them sing about it you know 😀😀

There's also those that claim they asked their mum whether they should support 'borough or Town.   ::)

A question that has never crossed my mind..  ;D

She gave a better answer than what "My Old Man" apparently suggested and got a mouthful of abuse for  :D

Funny you say that, said 89 year old dear (Brenda) was indeed born and brought up in the Boroughs...Spring added years later to try and instil an air of respectability!

I can remember when Spring boroughs was sought after.

And those that saw Molly Malone.

And its Nooooorrr-thampton...Northampton Town FC. Is by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen...

Possibly an exaggeration, but I recall singing it very frequently!  ;D

I also don't recall actually ever hitting a Barnet fan with a brick but maybe others did!

I do.

I know from personal experience how messy divorce can be and its usually the children that get hurt the most. Does anyone know if the trust will continue to run a bus? I've been using them since their inception and I do have a sense of ( perhaps misguided) loyalty.

I don’t really understand this thread - sure the trust board have made some decisions people don’t agree with, sure there are some trust members that in my opinion stretch the boundaries on what is acceptable and respectful in the comments they make (I must stress that one of course works both ways being a splinter gathering appeaser!), but surely looking at the bigger picture the trust should be the embodiment of its 700 plus members and running what seems to be a popular and successful travel club fits with the latter and not the other points so why create yet another division?

I might use a Coach once every ten years, the last being four years ago, but its nice to have an option of never using a Trust Coach ever again.

Oh well there goes my attempt at a bit of unity  :)

Like all groups, TeynAwayDays and Trust Travel will be a success and continue if enough people want to use their services. Trying to apply a moral argument is fruitless, people will choose as is their want.

For me cost comes first then loyalty is a close second.

I dId wonder how many would leave the Trust coach, maybe those that didn't get to vote were on it too.

Let’s be honest mate. There’s very little room on here for our very own Henry Kissinger type.

However, pachyderms feel free to give it a go…


 

FFS, how bad have things got if people are not prepared to share the same bus? Can anyone explain how this saga is good for the club on any conceivable level? The East Stand issue rumbles on, significant loses mounting up, a divided support base at war, not looking great is it?

Probably none that were born there by maybe a few conceived after a boozy night in the Tavern

Paul, often the driver is a good lad and has only left me stranded in Bury and Gloucester😎

Tone from the top, divide and conquer.

I see Sixfields travel (not associated with the Trust in any way 😂😂) are looking at running a coach up to Scotland for the preseason jaunt..

All the away travel times, stops & fares are available to view on the website Teynawaydays.com

No discount for Under 16's, so they didn't try to copy Trust Travel 100%  ;)

what time do you target for arrival at the away ground?

They could always charge £48 to get to Hartlepool, on the England coach.

You get what you pay for, I don't think there was one person, who went on the England team coach, who didn't think it was value for money, it was a unique experience

What… Paying £48 or going on the England coach? 😁😜

Both  ;D

About 2pm depending on the ground

Thanks, much appreciated.

https://www.teynawaydays.com/next-away-days

....and still it continues - I really don't understand this one, yes I know a lot of people were not happy with some of the Trust's actions in recent months & they perhaps have a point but surely the running of coaches is simply to provide a service for the fans and to support the team and shouldn't get mixed up in these other issues - clearly if demand outstripped supply there is no reason not to have different choices but this is clearly not the case looking at some gaps on the fixture list and the running of coaches - I know from experience that 9/10 people get on a coach and have no idea of the organisation and sometimes stress in setting this up so I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who has taken on this responsibility & delivered a good service for years - why can't people talk to each other rather than having to fight about it?

I kind of get it. If you don't agree with the way an organisation behaves then by using their services you are kind of passively adding weight to their position. It's a bit like the argument of "if you don't like the way it's run, join and change it" but by joining you are adding to their voice by swelling the numbers of people they "represent" (plus helping to fund them)

There are no gaps in fixture lists - Teyn away days will run coaches to every game including papa johns trophy games
The majority of the travellers are happy with the break away from the trust and it is reflective in the support.
All I can say is book early to avoid disappointment

The gaps I was referring to were re fixtures the trust are not running coaches for - I’m certainly no apologist for some of the Trust’s actions but I ultimately I believe in the principles of a Trust and the fact we may need that again in the future- every act of division (and it’s not a dig at you because  I completely understand your actions) makes a unified supporter’s organisation further away from reality.

The minute our club rids itself of the Cardoza/thomas/CDNL legacy, youll find a very much unified club.