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Title: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: guest168 on June 13, 2022, 11:14:51 am
Thanks Peter, I am taking your advice one step further

STATEMENT

I give up, some of you have won, you have succeeding in HOUNDING me out of this site

I and many involved with the Trust are totally fed up with the constant abuse, ridicule, misinformation, hypocrisy, double standards and outright bullying we have received over the last 18 months or so.

Yes I have been very critical of the club's owners, but like most on the Trust board, having been supporting NTFC all my life. I believe I have contributed greatly in many ways over the years.

The ACV is the crux of all the issues around NTFC, The Trust and the owners. Currently the 3.61 acres belongs to the people of Northampton, with a 125 odd year lease to NTFC.

Now the owners want to buy that land for a very low price and they want to sell it for warehousing (we think, as the owners have not told us their plans) on at least half of it.

So if they get their way, the club and fans lose that space forever - and for what benefit to the club - absolutely nothing - zero benefit at all. The multi million pound profit will go straight to the owners, just like the £1m+ profit from Charlie Goode did.

As lifelong fans the Trust believes that land should be protected, it certainly should not be given away, that is why there is an ACV, and that is why we invoked it.

The Trust are in discussions with a very well know local company, well known to the council. Our plan is to use that land to generate healthy profits that will go into an Infrastructure Foundation, that will help improve facilities for all on an ongoing basis.

Obviously the club's owners interest is in the profit and the money, not the football club's medium term development. Suddenly the completing of the East stand within the land deal has moved from the other 17 acres they will buy and profit from, to the 3.61 acres of the East stand ACV

It is why the minute the ACV was invoked, the club threw down it's tools and loudly protested that the Trust were delaying the East stand by 6 months.

That was all it took for some on here as an free hand to submit myself and anyone connected to the Trust, to almost constant abuse, ridicule and bullying. They feel they can  post and promote misinformation, operate total hypocrisy and double standards, whilst scrutinising and demanding high standards of the Trust not questioned elsewhere.

Well enough is enough

Therefore I am deleting my account

I apologise to those that follow my posts and welcome the level of insight and information I have provided

All I will say to the silent majority - speak up, wether you are Pro or anti the Trust, don't let the conversation be dominated by the few


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Manwork04 on June 13, 2022, 11:54:25 am
I’m sorry you feel the need to do this, some of the abuse you get on here is totally uncalled for and some people need to have a serious look at themselves.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: guest3481 on June 13, 2022, 12:04:26 pm
Also sad to see you go but you are not just a victim but have also been a perpetrator. Not that I condone either. This site should be a place for fans to come and discuss and debate and whilst we may not always agree, to have the decency and respect of out fellow fan. You, me and many others have not maintained that, but a short period aside, your tone was antagonistic, argumentative and arrogant.
The basis for a lot of the negativity and direction of this board has been driven by the approach and decisions of the Trust and as I have suggested strongly you all review the past 18 months, and use your fellow Trust contacts at Exeter, Hearts etc to support you. Some will see this as Trust bashing, if you want to see it like that fine but please consider my suggestion.

Again as several times I genuinely look forward to the proposal for the ACV land, and equally my offer of a beer stands in any new fan led venture you are able to establish.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 13, 2022, 12:35:25 pm
I’m sorry you feel the need to do this, some of the abuse you get on here is totally uncalled for and some people need to have a serious look at themselves.

If he was anyone else, and they didn’t hold a similar opinion to you’d be calling them a snowflake. I’ve certainly heard a lot worse from you in the past 😀

He has never reported any abuse through the appropriate channels. I can’t think of anyone that hasn’t only given him as good as he gives out. I’ve spent plenty of my time in the past dealing with the fallout from his comments, including some clear untruths. Until such a time that he learns that we all share the same concerns, that we are all tired with the years of stagnation, he’s probably better off staying away from anyone that doesn’t like his methods for conveying his thoughts. If I was on the Trust board I would welcome his undoubted passion, but would panic every time he sits down at his keyboard.

Shame really. Nice enough chap in person, but a nightmare online.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: the grumpy old man on June 13, 2022, 12:37:29 pm
I have no opinion on the East Stand development at all - I have simply given up on it ever being developed and I am not even sure there is any desire to develop it. 

I no longer read the development thread which surely should be changed to 'Redevelopment further away than ever'.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 13, 2022, 13:39:04 pm
I would wonder how much of this was due to people responding to his insults, and patronising attitude, or other people from the Trust telling him to shut up?
Certainly seems that way on Twitter.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Gibbo on June 13, 2022, 14:36:09 pm
This is all well and good but who's going to remind what the owners haven't done for the last five years now ?
I'm bereft


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Coolcat on June 13, 2022, 14:39:51 pm
In from the David Capel End...

Beds Cobbler!


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Bingers on June 13, 2022, 15:25:27 pm
I no longer read the development thread which surely should be changed to 'Redevelopment further away than ever'.

I have not read the Redevelopment thread for years, which probably means I miss out on what is going on, but as far as I can see, nothing concrete is going on. I also miss out on a lot of name calling, which I am happy about and therefore enjoy reading the messageboard. I think it is a good strategy and can recommend it to others.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Substitute on June 13, 2022, 15:41:00 pm
I think he is a pasionate man. Passionate about the club, nuffink wrong with that. Shame it comes to this but the support is completely split in all sorts of differant directions. He has taken a lot of abuse from dicks on here. The one thing a lot of them forget is that the east stand was promised a long time ago and nuffink hapened. The owners don't want the club they just want some dosh and without folk keeping an eye out the whole thing will go to s***.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Carton Lid on June 13, 2022, 15:53:39 pm
I’m sorry you feel the need to do this, some of the abuse you get on here is totally uncalled for and some people need to have a serious look at themselves.
I said this about a week ago, but got shot down by the moderators  :(


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: JSO on June 13, 2022, 15:55:20 pm
How can you support the Trust when you don’t know what it's doing?


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 13, 2022, 17:19:37 pm
This is probably an age thing, but writing an essay on why you're not longer posting on an anonymous message board is laughably self-important and very cringey. If you literally can't keep your head talking to stranger on the internet, turn your monitor off for a bit and take a walk outside.

I admit that I don't know enough about shell-corporations, land titles and buy-back clauses to know who's innocent and who's not. In my opinion at the moment, the owners have a keen interest in selling the land for their own profit, but will probably provide some improvement for the club while their own private interests are being sated. I'm willing to admit they could also be just ready to cut and run and sell the club down the river, it's not impossible, but I also don't think it's particuarly likely.

They aren't the perfect owners, but I don't think there's anyone else in the background and I also feel there's definitely worse in the league. Now, the Trust may have been able to persuade my evidence against this if they had people who were able to professionally lay out what the issues were, with it being entirely reliant on factual information rather than spiteful petty attacks, but every single representative I've seen on here for them has come across as arrogant, unprofessional and unwilling to engage, and while I had no opinion on them prior to a year ago, I have a very negative impression of the type of people running it currently, so congratulations if completely disengaging the fans from the trust was your ultimate aim.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: guest3086 on June 13, 2022, 17:35:09 pm
This is a Dffrnt Wrld
We know it’s hard to be heard
When every speech is slurred
By those whose vision is blurred
Who weaponize the word
According to the howl of the herd
Above the cry of the bird
But we are undeterred


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 13, 2022, 22:00:34 pm
This is a Dffrnt Wrld
We know it’s hard to be heard
When every speech is slurred
By those whose vision is blurred
Who weaponize the word
According to the howl of the herd
Above the cry of the bird
But we are undeterred

I can’t even be bothered to attribute a yawn emoji to this wallowing tripe.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Coolcat on June 14, 2022, 10:24:27 am
This is a Dffrnt Wrld
We know it’s hard to be heard
When every speech is slurred
By those whose vision is blurred
Who weaponize the word
According to the howl of the herd
Above the cry of the bird
But we are undeterred
You've been watching Nationwide commercials again haven't you!  ;D


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Substitute on June 14, 2022, 14:59:23 pm
I can’t even be bothered to attribute a yawn emoji to this wallowing tripe.

are you a scuzzer? or do you wear a scuzzer's boots?


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: JollyCobbler on June 14, 2022, 16:07:32 pm
I can’t even be bothered to attribute a yawn emoji to this wallowing tripe.

And yet you took the time to type a reply? Oh, the irony! ;D


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 14, 2022, 16:10:11 pm
And yet you took the time to type a reply? Oh, the irony! ;D


It was the polite thing to do..


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: guest3086 on June 14, 2022, 17:41:31 pm
This is a Diffrnt wrld
This is the shock of the new
And we’re at the back of the queue
But we just gotta get through
We’re led by a renegade crew
We’re trapped in a wire canoe
There’s no-one else to turn to
it’s just me and you


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 14, 2022, 17:52:40 pm
This is a Diffrnt wrld
This is the shock of the new
And we’re at the back of the queue
But we just gotta get through
We’re led by a renegade crew
We’re trapped in a wire canoe
There’s no-one else to turn to
it’s just me and you

I never knew Stormzy was a Cobbler.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 14, 2022, 19:44:12 pm

There’s no-one else to turn to


Don’t feel like that. We’re all one big family on here…


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: Tabasco Kid on June 14, 2022, 20:48:08 pm
I never knew Stormzy was a Cobbler.
Hes from Croydon. I used to work down there, and they are all Palace obsessed. They wont hear a bad word said about them!  ;D


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 21, 2022, 06:39:42 am
If anyone is suffering from Random-withdrawal symptoms, he can now be found on Facebook where he's teamed up with Chris, John and Tony to shout down any dissenting voices/differing opinions.


Title: Re: Random fed up with the abuse and bully delete accounts
Post by: guest3494 on June 21, 2022, 07:39:30 am
If anyone is suffering from Random-withdrawal symptoms, he can now be found on Facebook where he's teamed up with Chris, John and Tony to shout down any dissenting voices/differing opinions.

Awwww bless.....