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Title: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 03, 2023, 16:15:45 pm
Salford City FC (First Team) v Northampton Town FC (First Team)
Football League 2   
Referee: Lewis, Robert
Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
Assistant Referee: Ward, Christopher
Fourth Official: Kirk, Thomas

Will we have a good following for this one, or will some be stuck in their armchairs?  8)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 03, 2023, 16:24:50 pm

Will we have a good following for this one, or will some be stuck in their armchairs?  8)

There will be 3 in the Bingers Brigade, we're well hard core, we'll all be at Stockport as well.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: NottsCobbler on January 03, 2023, 18:44:34 pm
Sold around 350 for this one so far but with no price increase on the day, wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few pay on the gate. Are there any decent pubs around the ground?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 03, 2023, 19:49:26 pm
Sold around 350 for this one so far but with no price increase on the day, wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few pay on the gate. Are there any decent pubs around the ground?
None whatsoever, decent or otherwise.
On my last visit, one of the locals told me that this was the closest, its still a bit of a hike though. And doesnt open till midday.
https://www.staronthecliff.co.uk/


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 03, 2023, 22:02:50 pm
None whatsoever, decent or otherwise.
On my last visit, one of the locals told me that this was the closest, its still a bit of a hike though. And doesnt open till midday.
https://www.staronthecliff.co.uk/

Just Google it :

https://whatpub.com/search?q=Salford+City+Football+Club%2C+Kersal&lat=53.513847&lng=-2.277889&features=Open%2CPubClub%2CRealAle&r=10&t=d&p=1

Prestwich Church Institute & Gentlemans Club is very popular according to PAN Young Methodists Group.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 03, 2023, 23:22:45 pm
So, as I said, The Star is the closest, but a bit of a hike.
Only Evers would recommend the local church institute, which would appear to very popular in the absence of any decent pubs nearby.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Risdene on January 04, 2023, 05:11:21 am
Sold around 350 for this one so far but with no price increase on the day, wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few pay on the gate. Are there any decent pubs around the ground?
Careful, at this rate there will be more Cobblers fans than Salford!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 04, 2023, 08:55:36 am
I see the ever sustainable business model that is Salford City FC are charging £5 for tickets for this one  :D
If anyone deserves Salford City it’s Gary Neville.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 04, 2023, 08:55:41 am
i dread to think how few people will be at this game with it being a 12.30 kick off and on the telly .
Anywhere Cobbs fans are congregating to watch it at all ?
is Carrs Bar going to be open?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2023, 11:19:06 am
As the thread is up early I may as well add a few stats. Obviously we have little history with Salford, just 5 games with 3 wins a draw and the only loss being this seasons home fixture.
So we are unbeaten at Salford with a win and a draw.
This season Salford have been doing a lot better away from home with 7 wins (1 more than us) but only 3 wins at home which all came in their first 3 home games beating Mansfield 2-0, Crewe 3-0 and Stevenage 1-0 and they have only kept 1 more clean sheet since. Their last home league win was on 27th August and since then they have drawn 4 (Crawley, Grimsby, AFC Wimbledon and Barrow) and lost 4 ( Tranmere, Bradford, Stockport and Carlisle). In these 11 games they have scored 11 and conceded 12 but have only scored 3 times in their last 7 home games. However, they have only conceded more than 1 goal in 3 games.
It would appear that we will be without Magloire and McWilliams for a while if they both have hamstring injuries so we have to hope some of the others missing against Orient (Koiki, Sowerby and Appere) are at least fit enough to make the bench. Without any of these the bench will be very week, against Orient the bench consisted of Maxted, 4 defenders, Fox and Hylton so limited attacking options. So with Fox replacing McWilliams if Appere does not make it that only leaves the prolific Hylton.
Robert Lewis (not Stevenson) is the referee and in 16 games this season he has issued 58 yellows and 1 red card. We last had him in April '22 for our 3-0 home win against Harrogate and before that for our 2-0 home against Mansfield in October '21. He did not issue a single card in either of these games.
I don't want to give Dr Feelgood a bad feeling but we started the season with 3 away wins and 2 draws before loosing at Walsall and since we have 3 wins and 2 draws again but surely this is where the sequence ends as I don't see us leaving Salford (who have Ryan Watson in their ranks) empty handed.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 04, 2023, 11:51:53 am
Josh Harrop on the bench would be an option .
I can’t see Koiki being fit or Sowerby sadly . Hopefully Appere will be ok though and we don’t get any more injuries .


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Coolcat on January 04, 2023, 11:55:19 am
So, as I said, The Star is the closest, but a bit of a hike.
Only Evers would recommend the local church institute, which would appear to very popular in the absence of any decent pubs nearby.  ;D
Would George Concur with what you said...beggars belief!  ;D
For the previous two trips to Salford, quite a few of us have gone to the Oxford - just in Salford a few minutes walk from Deansgate (Manchester).
Brilliant pub, one of my favourites - actually made top ten Manchester/Salford pubs to visit this Christmas.
However, however, a good 2-3 miles from Salford City FC and last season the utter w⚓ of a taxi driver charged the eight of us £40!
First season, normal taxi for four of us, think £12.
With a 12.30pm k.o. though, all rather academic!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2023, 11:58:20 am
Yes Harrop would be an option. I queried why he wasn't on the bench against Orient as he was deemed fit enough in previous games.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 13:26:51 pm

However, however, a good 2-3 miles from Salford City FC and last season the utter w⚓ of a taxi driver charged the eight of us £40!
First season, normal taxi for four of us, think £12.
With a 12.30pm k.o. though, all rather academic!
First season three pounds per passenger, last season five pounds per passenger. Cost of living crisis is biting deeply. Just ask Mick Lynch..  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Worthless Recluse on January 04, 2023, 15:27:50 pm
Might go to this.
Won't be too many there.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 15:47:17 pm
Might go to this.
Won't be too many there.
If you do go, can you let us know how the pies are?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Saint Cobbler on January 04, 2023, 16:18:12 pm
If things had gone differently for me 57 years ago I might have been able to comment more knowledgeably on the 'suitable drinking establishment' question. I hitch hiked up to see my Salford lass, who I was quite hot on, but got diverted at the end of her street by her brother on my way to her house to have a quick one (beer that is), and ended up watching MU lose a long running unbeaten home record to Mr Dougan and Co. Leicester. Easier to just roll up without a ticket in those days. Arrived at the original intended destination quite a few hours later and things were never quite so romantically close after that!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 17:37:38 pm
i dread to think how few people will be at this game with it being a 12.30 kick off and on the telly .
Anywhere Cobbs fans are congregating to watch it at all ?
is Carrs Bar going to be open?
I can think of three pubs around the Welly road, which have a few screens, and would show it. Artizan, Pickering Phipps and the Crown and Cush. I personally will be in the C&C. Anyone else have any suggestions?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Worthless Recluse on January 04, 2023, 17:56:19 pm
Sold around 350 for this one so far but with no price increase on the day, wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few pay on the gate. Are there any decent pubs around the ground?
You have to take a stroll around Prestwich whenever you visit the Peninsula, visiting the Red Lion, Ostrich, Woodthorpe and Foresters.
Closer and more atmospheric than anything in Salford.
So I'm told.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 04, 2023, 18:29:57 pm
Salford have just signed goalkeeper Alex Cairns on loan for the test of the season from Fleetwood who he hasn't played a single game for this season.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 04, 2023, 18:45:54 pm
I can think of three pubs around the Welly road, which have a few screens, and would show it. Artizan, Pickering Phipps and the Crown and Cush. I personally will be in the C&C. Anyone else have any suggestions?
Ahh yes , thanks .
The Artizan is a good shout - CAMRA discount !
The C&C i have fallen out with in recent times since it was taken over again :(
The Carriage House in Higham will also have it on


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Worthless Recluse on January 04, 2023, 18:52:26 pm
If you do go, can you let us know how the pies are?
I never like a pie that's served from a portacabin Tabasco.
Next time I visit the Bescot I'm gonna try and summon up the chutzpah to get myself here.
https://www.madorourkes.com/tablet/index.html
Far enough away from the ground yet still close enough to make it worthwhile  :)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3063 on January 04, 2023, 19:05:16 pm
Salford have just signed goalkeeper Alex Cairns on loan for the test of the season from Fleetwood who he hasn't played a single game for this season.

Only a back-up keeper. Tom King is their number one and played in the previous game against us this season.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 19:25:01 pm
You have to take a stroll around Prestwich whenever you visit the Peninsula, visiting the Red Lion, Ostrich, Woodthorpe and Foresters.
Closer and more atmospheric than anything in Salford.
So I'm told.
How are the pies?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 19:37:03 pm
I never like a pie that's served from a portacabin Tabasco.
Next time I visit the Bescot I'm gonna try and summon up the chutzpah to get myself here.
https://www.madorourkes.com/tablet/index.html
Far enough away from the ground yet still close enough to make it worthwhile  :)

I do enjoy your input . Thank you for your time.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: itsme on January 04, 2023, 19:40:23 pm
Salford have just signed goalkeeper Alex Cairns on loan for the test of the season from Fleetwood who he hasn't played a single game for this season.

I remember him a few years ago pulling off a amazing triple save against us


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 19:45:12 pm
Ahh yes , thanks .
The Artizan is a good shout - CAMRA discount !
The C&C i have fallen out with in recent times since it was taken over again :(
The Carriage House in Higham will also have it on
I doubt that you will find many Npton based cobblers going over to Higham to watch a match.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 04, 2023, 19:49:06 pm
Cush is too yoof orientated these days, the Artizan would be my venue of choice, good selection of Pizzas when I was last in there, and the banter from the regulars is hysterical


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 20:23:28 pm
Cush is too yoof orientated these days,
Mate, I can guarantee, that on a saturday lunchtime, or any lunchtime for that matter, you will struggle to find anybody under the age of sixty. (apart from me obvs.) Just ask for Chisel, Ray, Snake, Mac, Fred, Village idiot, or anybody running to the bookies.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 04, 2023, 20:25:12 pm
I doubt that you will find many Npton based cobblers going over to Higham to watch a match.  ;D
You would be surprised mate - there’s a good few Cobblers exiles in Diamonds territory !
A good few players live in higham too because the club rents houses there .


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 04, 2023, 20:40:27 pm
You would be surprised mate - there’s a good few Cobblers exiles in Diamonds territory !
A good few players live in higham too because the club rents houses there .
Fair enough, I will bow to your better judgement. But I still will not be catching the X47 to watch a game.  :D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: The Star Inn Salford on January 04, 2023, 22:32:59 pm
You have to take a stroll around Prestwich whenever you visit the Peninsula, visiting the Red Lion, Ostrich, Woodthorpe and Foresters.
Closer and more atmospheric than anything in Salford.
So I'm told.
The Star Inn is the nearest pub to the stadium 180 year old quirky pub bought out by its customers. Welcoming to away fans, parking around the pub and always 2 ales on    https://www.facebook.com/StarInnOnTheCliff/


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 04, 2023, 23:11:02 pm
Salford City FC (First T ;)
Fourth Official: Kirk, Thomas

Will we have a good following for this one, or will some be stuck in their armchairs?  8)

At £5/tkt surprised it has not sold out. All those fans going to the Wboro rd Pubs where a pint is nearly a fiver! Do you tag the armchair guys Deepo ;)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Carton Lid on January 04, 2023, 23:18:01 pm
I doubt that you will find many Npton based cobblers going over to Higham to watch a match.  ;D
You don't need to go that far, it's on in the Old Swan in Earls Barton, X4 stops right outside  :)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 05, 2023, 05:02:47 am
You don't need to go that far, it's on in the Old Swan in Earls Barton, X4 stops right outside  :)
The last pub I went into in Barton, was the Boot. The landlady was nice and friendly, but the clientele were a bit odd.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 06:53:44 am
At £5/tkt surprised it has not sold out. All those fans going to the Wboro rd Pubs where a pint is nearly a fiver! Do you tag the armchair guys Deepo ;)
Not everyone drinks alcohol, boomer  :-*


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Carton Lid on January 05, 2023, 08:23:53 am
The last pub I went into in Barton, was the Boot. The landlady was nice and friendly, but the clientele were a bit odd.
That's been shut well over 10 years, the Swan used to be dreadful but is a really good pub now


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2023, 09:24:53 am
Not everyone drinks alcohol, boomer  :-*

Can’t imagine anybody ordering a pint of lemonade in one of the Welly rd pubs. One of which is run by a Shrewsbury supporter!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 11:50:51 am
Can’t imagine anybody ordering a pint of lemonade in one of the Welly rd pubs. One of which is run by a Shrewsbury supporter!


Lime and Soda me old flower!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Coolcat on January 05, 2023, 12:02:43 pm
You don't need to go that far, it's on in the Old Swan in Earls Barton, X4 stops right outside  :)
Might pop over to the Saxon Tavern after...not the Swan though.  ;)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2023, 12:04:41 pm
Lime and Soda me old flower!

Good luck with that - can hear the titters now.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 05, 2023, 12:21:50 pm
I shall be watching it in my local Hemsby pub - The Seadell Bar. Its the last week before our site closes deyn for the winter. It will be quite surreal showing up in there about 12oclock with our Cobblers shirts on!



Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 12:22:38 pm
Good luck with that - can hear the titters now.
Trust me, it's my drink of choice........... Titter ye not! :afro


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 05, 2023, 15:20:38 pm
I shall be watching it in my local Hemsby pub - The Seadell Bar. Its the last week before our site closes deyn for the winter. It will be quite surreal showing up in there about 12oclock with our Cobblers shirts on!



Been in the Seadell a few times over the years...meat raffle and stinking of the toilets... 8)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 15:31:05 pm
Sounds like the average pongo billet  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: maxntfc on January 05, 2023, 15:38:24 pm
We're opting for an early trip up, spoons breakfast in central manchester and then a taxi to the ground


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 05, 2023, 15:58:06 pm
Sounds like the average pongo billet  ;D ;D ;D

While it would be a fish raffle for the Matelots... 8)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 16:17:02 pm
While it would be a fish raffle for the Matelots... 8)
That would be true, but wide of the mark! Scaley brat here  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 05, 2023, 16:25:59 pm
That would be true, but wide of the mark! Scaley brat here  ;D

Crab brat.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 05, 2023, 16:57:05 pm
Crab brat.  ;D
Guilty as charged ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: The Star Inn Salford on January 05, 2023, 17:01:13 pm
For people travelling up for the Salford City game the 180 year old Star Inn community owned pub (nearest pub to the ground) will be opening at 11.00am for those who fancy a quick pre match (or post match) pint. There is parking in the streets around the pub and it's about a 15/20 minute walk to the Nevile Road entrance to the Peninsula Stadium  https://www.facebook.com/StarInnOnTheCliff/


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: The Star Inn Salford on January 05, 2023, 17:09:41 pm
The Star Inn is the nearest pub to the ground and we are opening at 11.00am for the 12.30 KO. Come along... Away fans use the pub regularly so everyone is more than welcome... And we always have a couple of good ales on- there is street parking around the pub and an easy 15/20 minute walk to the ground.. check us out on https://www.facebook.com/StarInnOnTheCliff/


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Its_nice_to_michu on January 05, 2023, 18:46:17 pm
Tbh the Star Inn  is a great little Boozer imo. Great selection of ales, lagers etc. from memory they show Football on the TV etc. very friendly place and the locals were spot on in my last visit up north.

UTC


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 05, 2023, 21:40:36 pm
Trust me, it's my drink of choice........... Titter ye not! :afro

 ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: DrillingCobbler on January 06, 2023, 08:43:56 am
Been in the Seadell a few times over the years...meat raffle and stinking of the toilets... 8)

Our friends that stayed with us the weekend before Christmas, won some sausages and pork chops in said raffle!  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Coolcat on January 06, 2023, 13:13:28 pm
A couple of Oxford City fans amongst the ranks supporting the Cobblers tomorrow! 👍


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 06, 2023, 17:10:03 pm
The Star Inn is the nearest pub to the ground and we are opening at 11.00am for the 12.30 KO. Come along... Away fans use the pub regularly so everyone is more than welcome... And we always have a couple of good ales on- there is street parking around the pub and an easy 15/20 minute walk to the ground.. check us out on https://www.facebook.com/StarInnOnTheCliff/
Think this is a great initiative from a local business trying to drum up some trade in a struggling industry. I’d go on general principle.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 06, 2023, 17:53:08 pm
Change of plan from me, I cannot be up the Welly Road tomorrow lunchtime, or indeed near a TV. If someone else could post the team sheet, then fill ya boots.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: tcobb on January 06, 2023, 18:46:23 pm
The Star Inn is a cracking little pub, well worth the visit.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: TPFKA Marvo on January 07, 2023, 10:36:43 am
Looking forward to watching this on SKY today, see what sort of build-up it gets and will make a change from Ifollow, though why the club insist you can't watch it on the latter in the UK god knows, who hasn't got a VPN nowadays?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: TPFKA Marvo on January 07, 2023, 10:50:57 am
Change of plan from me, I cannot be up the Welly Road tomorrow lunchtime, or indeed near a TV. If someone else could post the team sheet, then fill ya boots.  ;D

TEAM: Burge, McGowan, Guthrie, Sherring, Hoskins, Fox Pinock, Leonard, Bowie, Eppiah, Odimayo.

Subs: Maxted, Sowerby, Appere, Hylton, Lintott, Haynes, Dyche.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 07, 2023, 10:51:35 am
Same team as Orient game after Fox and Eppiah had come on. Sowerby and Appere on the bench.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Carton Lid on January 07, 2023, 10:54:05 am
Got my seat in Hotshot’s bar at Butlin’s in Skegness, not over crowded  8)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 07, 2023, 11:13:48 am
Sky have lost the plot already. Apparantly Marc Leonard is a good old seasoned pro who's played for a number of league clubs (they did name them), they really need to do some research.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 11:16:01 am
Sky get the wrong Marc Leonard


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: yayo bayo on January 07, 2023, 11:32:21 am
They probably looked at a picture of him and seeing his receding hairline thought he was the elder!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 11:41:20 am
FFS.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 07, 2023, 11:42:20 am
One down already, don't think any of our forwards have touched the ball.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 07, 2023, 11:44:31 am
Hoskins could have stuck a foot in to stop that.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 11:45:09 am
Brady out


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 11:45:27 am
An absolutely shocking start, the pitch isn’t helping either - it looks really boggy on the near side especially.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 11:53:07 am
Shocking goalkeeping


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 11:54:57 am
Brady in


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 07, 2023, 11:56:28 am
Hoskins could have stuck a foot in to stop that.

I’ll let him off.  ;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: just.reading on January 07, 2023, 12:01:18 pm
What on earth has happened to pinnock? An absolute shadow of the player we saw last season


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:02:23 pm
We’re all over the place at the back - every time the ball is played down Sherring’s channel they’re getting in.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 12:04:17 pm
Shocking defending


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:04:34 pm
We are making this look very difficult.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 12:05:01 pm
Very poor from McGowan


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:05:15 pm
Absolutely awful defending, what is the problem?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Baldy on January 07, 2023, 12:05:27 pm
GET A FOOT IN!!!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 07, 2023, 12:06:07 pm
We’re all over the place at the back - every time the ball is played down Sherring’s channel they’re getting in.

We are half asleep at back and they score again, we'll be lucky not to concede a hatful they way it's going. We have nothing up front today.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 12:06:29 pm
Jeez, we've been awful


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: cobbler151 on January 07, 2023, 12:07:25 pm
Bowie and Pinnock have been woeful.

Dare I say it, this could be Hyltons chance to shine


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: just.reading on January 07, 2023, 12:07:37 pm
We’re all over the place at the back - every time the ball is played down Sherring’s channel they’re getting in.

Not sure why you’ve name dropped sherring there, it’s McGowan’s side and he’s been the weak link, highlighted by their second goal!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 12:09:34 pm
Zero cover in midfield, no one holding the ball up front, a truly dreadful first half.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 07, 2023, 12:10:01 pm
Shocking defending.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 12:10:12 pm
We’re all over the place at the back - every time the ball is played down Sherring’s channel they’re getting in.

That's very apparent. As is our right footed player playing at Left Back. Though Odimayo makes the best of it he can it makes us look lopsided.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:11:07 pm
Not sure why you’ve name dropped sherring there, it’s McGowan’s side and he’s been the weak link, highlighted by their second goal!

Do you think Sherring’s playing well then? Admittedly McGowan is well below par too but that goes for the whole team with the possible exception of Odimayo. We look like a team of strangers.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:11:09 pm
Triple change minimum at the break!

Get Lintott on for McGowan. Appere and Sowerby.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:13:54 pm
Despite all this we should now somehow be level. If you offered me a point now I’d snatch your hand off. Agree about Pinnock - he’s been a shadow of the player he was last season.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: just.reading on January 07, 2023, 12:14:54 pm
Do you think Sherring’s playing well then? Admittedly McGowan is well below par too but that goes for the whole team with the possible exception of Odimayo. We look like a team of strangers.

I didn’t say he’s played well, but certainly not the worst defender by a long way. Saying that nobody’s covering themselves in glory atm


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:18:00 pm
McGowen, Pinnock and Leonard need to be withdrawn here.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: lordjord on January 07, 2023, 12:20:21 pm
I think Sherring has really struggled today and at times this season. The pitch is not helping but he has been really hesitant at times which has caused us a lot of issues. Mcgowan has looked really slow trying to get back and think having a man less in central midfield is not helping either. Think Fox has played well but all in all not a great first half.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:20:47 pm
Atrocious, even our goal was a fluke. Brady needs to make some changes.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:21:06 pm
What’s the point in giving the lad from Preston who was training with us for a number of weeks a short term contract to not even have him in the Matchday squad.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Fred_NTFC on January 07, 2023, 12:22:23 pm
Very much missing McWilliams' influence, it's not a day for pretty footballers like Pinnock & Leonard. McGowan looks like he's running through treacle every time he tracks back, Lintott it's going to be breathing down his neck to start. At least Salford look terrible at the back too, still chances to get back into this.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 12:23:23 pm
Awful pitch doesn't help but it's the same for both sides.

Their first goal was just sloppy, should have been dealt with before we headed it on to our own post and too slow reacting to the rebound. Our goal should never have been and their second.... How can Watson travel up yards without a challenge...

After that, Sam should have scored. Arguably we should be 1-0 up...

That said, that would be rough on Salford.... They'vebeen the better team, simple as.

Let's hope JB acts sooner rather than later


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jonesy9 on January 07, 2023, 12:26:20 pm
Trust us to be the team to give Salford their first home win in 9 games...!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:26:32 pm
What’s the point in giving the lad from Preston who was training with us for a number of weeks a short term contract to not even have him in the Matchday squad.


Hennigan has said he’s picked up niggles in training and isn’t fit - it looks like he’s going to be a permanent sicknote.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: bungle on January 07, 2023, 12:28:13 pm
Once again Brady needs to learn that our midfield becomes far too lightweight when he plays Pinnock in the centre.
This is particularly a problem today, given that Leonard and Fox are our only fit central midfielders and neither have the defensive nous or physicality of McWilliams and Sowerby.
 
Salford's second was a case in point: Watson was able to run unchallenged on the counter from just outside his own penalty area to our just outside our penalty area before slipping in his midfield colleague for the goal.

However, there's definitely a point for us here if we can get more control of the midfield. Hoskins looks sharp and Eppiah has shown tantalising glimpses of close control and menace. If Sowerby is at all fit I'd be tempted to bring him on for Pinnock ASAP so can get more of a grip centrally and then possibly throw Appere into the mix later on to add some extra muscle up front.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 12:28:36 pm
I think Sherring has really struggled today and at times this season. The pitch is not helping but he has been really hesitant at times which has caused us a lot of issues. Mcgowan has looked really slow trying to get back and think having a man less in central midfield is not helping either. Think Fox has played well but all in all not a great first half.
McGowan needs to lose some weight. He looks like Mr Blobby.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 12:31:13 pm
Trust us to be the team to give Salford their first home win in 9 games...!
We have a rich history of breaking teams loosing streaks.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Risdene on January 07, 2023, 12:33:40 pm
Once again Brady needs to learn that our midfield becomes far too lightweight when he plays Pinnock in the centre.
This is particularly a problem today, given that Leonard and Fox are our only fit central midfielders and neither have the defensive nous or physicality of McWilliams and Sowerby.
 
Salford's second was a case in point: Watson was able to run unchallenged on the counter from just outside his own penalty area to our just outside our penalty area before slipping in his midfield colleague for the goal.

However, there's definitely a point for us here if we can get more control of the midfield. Hoskins looks sharp and Eppiah has shown tantalising glimpses of close control and menace. If Sowerby is at all fit I'd be tempted to bring him on for Pinnock ASAP so can get more of a grip centrally and then possibly throw Appere into the mix later on to add some extra muscle up front.
Agree, Sowerby on asap
Maxted on 2nd half!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 12:34:17 pm
Sweet Jesus, the pie tasters coming on, this could be a cricket score.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 07, 2023, 12:34:26 pm
McGowan needs to lose some weight. He looks like Mr Blobby.

Speaking of Mr Blobby, Heeeeeere's Johnny!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: cobbler151 on January 07, 2023, 12:34:54 pm
That's a worry


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 12:35:15 pm
Maxted on.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 12:37:07 pm
Should’ve been a red card but no foul given


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 12:37:35 pm
Crap ref Eppy took a nasty one there


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:38:10 pm
What a disgraceful challenge - if there had been VAR he’d be off. Crap refereeing yet again.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 07, 2023, 12:38:47 pm
McGowan does look overweight. Where as Maxted looks clinically obese. What’s going on there 😀


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 12:41:13 pm
We look slow all over the park


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:42:44 pm
I have no idea how Eppiah has run that off - his ankle must be made of elastic.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 12:44:08 pm
McGowan does look overweight. Where as Maxted looks clinically obese. What’s going on there 😀

He's forgotten his gentleman's abdominal support.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 12:52:29 pm
Never offside!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:52:35 pm
Nice to see the ref and linesman getting in on the act - both absolutely dreadful.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 12:53:02 pm
Eppy scores but offside. Looked clearly onside.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:55:03 pm
Is Maxted glued to his line?

Doesn’t even look like he’s a keeper.



Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 12:57:11 pm
Is Maxted glued to his line?

Doesn’t even look like he’s a keeper.



I was just about to comment that he looks like a supporter who has been put in goal. If Burge is out for any length of time then we’re f**ked.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 12:57:51 pm
Changes needed


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 12:58:43 pm
2-1 down. 20 minutes left. No out and our striker on the pitch. Two sitting on the bench.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2023, 13:00:16 pm
Ones half injured and the other is Danny Rose's brother tbf.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:01:55 pm
Cmon hylton. You owe us a few goals


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:03:51 pm
I was just about to comment that he looks like a supporter who has been put in goal. If Burge is out for any length of time then we’re f**ked.

I honestly think if the shoot and it’s on target they score.

Luckily they haven’t tried yet.

Anything within 35 yards.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 13:04:02 pm
Not sure why he took Eppy off should have taken Bowie off


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 13:06:06 pm
Sherring has been absolutely dreadful, doesn’t win his headers and gives the ball away under no pressure.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: cobbler151 on January 07, 2023, 13:07:40 pm
No idea why he took Josh off.

Better second half but no way do we look promotion material


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 13:08:26 pm
If I say Pinnock has been a passenger in this game he'd prove me wrong with something special!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:10:27 pm
If I say Pinnock has been a passenger in this game he'd prove me wrong with something special!

Is he playing!?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dan on January 07, 2023, 13:15:02 pm
Is he playing!?

Been horrendous hasn’t he. How he’s not been pulled off is beyond me.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Dr Feelgood on January 07, 2023, 13:16:43 pm
A clear handball and nothing. Ref should sacked on the spot


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 13:17:12 pm
Where do they dig these refs up from?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:17:16 pm
Are we going to get anything out of these officials?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:18:13 pm
So far the officials have missed two clear pens, a clear red card and ruled out a goal that was onside.

Mind blowing.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 13:19:35 pm
I’m wondering if this match could be any more frustrating.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jonesy9 on January 07, 2023, 13:20:44 pm
Back to the usual unfair share of shocking refereeing decisions. No change there to be honest.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:22:39 pm
Here comes the timewasting


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:23:11 pm
So far the officials have missed two clear pens, a clear red card and ruled out a goal that was onside.

Mind blowing.

Now the most obvious head injury I’ve ever seen


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:26:39 pm
We didn't even get the full added time


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jonesy9 on January 07, 2023, 13:26:46 pm
And the ref letting them have the ball on the restart when we were in possession. Just really inadequate refereeing.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Letchworthcobbler on January 07, 2023, 13:28:04 pm
Need players in, big time. It's our own fault, we shot ourselves in the foot when we played crap in the first half.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jonesy9 on January 07, 2023, 13:28:10 pm
He was down for 2 mins with and he only added on 1 more. Very poor refereeing today, again.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:28:27 pm
Now the most obvious head injury I’ve ever seen
It’s definitely crept into the game where players are going down injured after heading the ball if their team is under pressure, to stop the game and waste time.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: DavCobb on January 07, 2023, 13:29:53 pm
Bad day at the office. Onto the next one.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:29:58 pm
Potentially now only 1 point clear of 4th.

4 points from 4 games against teams in and around us.

4 more games before the opposition get easier.

I predict we will be in the playoffs by February.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: cobbler151 on January 07, 2023, 13:30:47 pm
Ref had a shocker

So did Brady regarding his in game management.

Hylton needs his bags packing and bus fair paying, he's a complete spent force.

Thought Fox and Eppiah played well.

Hope Burge is ok.

Not looking FWD to Stockport.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: tcobb on January 07, 2023, 13:31:09 pm
Yeh definitely the Referees fault, cant be the fact that we are so poor upfront can it ? Midfield looks crap, McGowan is awful, and now we have a Teletubby in goal, but its the refs fault.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:31:18 pm
It’s definitely crept into the game where players are going down injured after heading the ball if their team is under pressure, to stop the game and waste time.

Agreed but this was a cleanly stuck ball straight to the head from 10 yards. Very obvious.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:32:05 pm
Yeh definitely the Referees fault, cant be the fact that we are so poor upfront can it ? Midfield looks crap, McGowan is awful, and now we have a Teletubby in goal, but its the refs fault.

Certainly not the refs fault in my eyes. He was poor for both sides.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 13:32:31 pm
Really poor in the first half, Pinnock played out of position in the centre is a complete waste of space, good to see Sowerby back.
Pitch and referee a real leveller.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 13:33:31 pm
Certainly not the refs fault in my eyes. He was poor for both sides.

You are joking aren’t you - how was he poor for them?!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:33:44 pm
Need players in, big time. It's our own fault, we shot ourselves in the foot when we played crap in the first half.

We didn’t adapt to the pitch and conditions well in the first half that suited Salford a lot more. Didn’t think there was that much in the game overall like many matches this season, definitely if a few decisions by the ref/linesman were correctly given it could have been a different story.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 07, 2023, 13:34:28 pm
Brady is going to have to watch what he says when he talks to the TV - could be a fine / ban coming up!!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 07, 2023, 13:35:35 pm
In the end I thought we deserved at least a draw from that game. Salford should have had a red, Eppiahs goal was onside and we could have had two penalties. The ref was definitely a homer.

We missed Magloire's pace and McWilliams industry, we need a couple in by next weekend , we can't wait until the end of the month. Did Hylton touch the ball.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:35:54 pm
Yeh definitely the Referees fault, cant be the fact that we are so poor upfront can it ? Midfield looks crap, McGowan is awful, and now we have a Teletubby in goal, but its the refs fault.

it's not the refs fault but Eppiah looked level at worst, nearly had his ankle snapped and if that's not a penalty I don't know what is. It doesn't matter how from the ball you are or how hard the ball is hit, if your arms are flapping and the ball hits you, it's a penalty


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:36:01 pm
Certainly not the refs fault in my eyes. He was poor for both sides.
For us a fair goal given offside, a definite red card not given and a good shout for a penalty, for them a good shout for a penalty.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:37:53 pm
Agree about Hylton. His signing looked like a massive coup. It's turned out to be a massive poo


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 13:38:34 pm
For us a fair goal given offside, a definite red card not given and a good shout for a penalty, for them a good shout for a penalty.

Exactly that. He was poor for both sides.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:40:52 pm
Exactly that. He was poor for both sides.
But not equally!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 13:41:18 pm
Exactly that. He was poor for both sides.

but three big calls against us to one for them. So worse for us. You can concede that at least surely


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2023, 13:47:41 pm
If you're going to be a decent League 1 team, you need to be good enough that s*** decisions don't matter. We have no aerial strength, and midfield is a bit weak without Sowerby or McWilliams. Can't rely on the ref, as awful as he was.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Gen.Disorda on January 07, 2023, 13:49:52 pm
If you're going to be a decent League 1 team, you need to be good enough that s*** decisions don't matter. We have no aerial strength, and midfield is a bit weak without Sowerby or McWilliams. Can't rely on the ref, as awful as he was.

A red card, a penatly and a goal are three pretty big misses. It cant be expected that you score 3 in every top of the table clash to mitigate that.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: BackOfTheNet on January 07, 2023, 13:55:21 pm
No complaints on the scoreline at halftime, second half we were hard done by. I don't like complaining about officials and decisions because it smacks of sour grapes, so instead I'll just repeat what the Sky pundits have just said:

- it was a sending off.
- it was onside.
- it was a penalty.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 07, 2023, 13:56:45 pm
For as bad as we played first half, we definitely deserved something out of that!
Still feeling confident though - the awful refereeing decisions will even themselves out.
We had a strong ref against Orient last week - we get a weak pathetic one this week!
Huge game coming up next week. We need Burge, Sean and Sowerby back for that!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:57:27 pm
If you're going to be a decent League 1 team, you need to be good enough that s*** decisions don't matter. We have no aerial strength, and midfield is a bit weak without Sowerby or McWilliams. Can't rely on the ref, as awful as he was.

It’s not about being a decent league 1 team it’s about getting promoted. It’s not like the teams that get promoted will necessarily finish in that order in the league above, a lot changes, right now it’s just about going up.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 07, 2023, 13:59:34 pm

Huge game coming up next week. We need Burge, Sean and Sowerby back for that!


Agreed, I think Eppiah (if he stays fit) will be huge for us too going forward


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 07, 2023, 13:59:58 pm
No complaints on the scoreline at halftime, second half we were hard done by. I don't like complaining about officials and decisions because it smacks of sour grapes, so instead I'll just repeat what the Sky pundits have just said:

- it was a sending off.
- it was onside.
- it was a penalty.

With respect it wasn’t the pundits saying it - it was photographic evidence and the rule book. No debate about any of them! Well done to Brady for keeping his cool on camera - I’m not sure I would have?!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 14:00:29 pm
Exactly that. He was poor for both sides.

.................but not in equal measure.

The linesman was poorly positioned to give Eppiah incorrectly offside. If anything he reacted to the desperate Salford defender's plea for a flag for offside.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 14:02:24 pm
If you're going to be a decent League 1 team, you need to be good enough that s*** decisions don't matter. We have no aerial strength, and midfield is a bit weak without Sowerby or McWilliams. Can't rely on the ref, as awful as he was.

we can rely on officials to do their job properly surely?

You can't criticise players for having an off day and absolve the officials. They were dreadful. Better judges than us have just picked each incident apart and in each case have said each decision was wrong or missed.

If the officials do their job properly, we're 11 against 10, probably 3-2 and win in a stroll.

Neither team were fantastic today, it was a scrap on a bog but we win easily if we get those decisions. I doubt you'd be mentioning aerial strength or weak midfields then

incidentally, the cbs won more than their share against a 6ft6 forward and apart from the parting of the red seas for their second, the midfield was not overrun


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Risdene on January 07, 2023, 14:05:26 pm
No complaints on the scoreline at halftime, second half we were hard done by. I don't like complaining about officials and decisions because it smacks of sour grapes, so instead I'll just repeat what the Sky pundits have just said:

- it was a sending off.
- it was onside.
- it was a penalty.

+1
Striker and attacking left back asap please.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 07, 2023, 14:11:49 pm
When their player went down injured although we were in possession the referee made the correct decision in giving them the dropped ball in accordance with the rule of the player being in the penalty area. Cannot fault him for the offside as it is the linos decision but on replay their player should have seen red for the challenge on Eppiah but the referee does not have advantage of seeing the replay, how many of us would have said it was a red without seeing the replay?. Agree that it should have been a penalty as although the player could not get out of the way his arm was away from his body.
Several players not at their best today and the second goal was very poor to concede, letting Watson run that distance without a challenge, they had more attackers than we had defenders and should Burge have done better with a shot that went across him?. Then we effectively went down to 10 men when Hylton came on, I can't remember him touching the ball, I said on the Hylton thread that perhaps being on TV he might show us what he is capable of but he didn't.
We are probably not going to have Magloire or McWilliams back quickly so we need to address the situation.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jonesy9 on January 07, 2023, 14:12:30 pm
Let's be honest, the decisions didn't even themselves out last season, and have been very much against our favour this season too.
You'd love to think we should be so good that it doesn't matter however we know that this league is always very tight around the top and playoff places, so terrible refereeing decisions can make or break the season.

For example the goal that was given against us against Forest Green last season, that didn't even touch the goal line.
Also, our disallowed goal against Exeter which should have stood. Only for the ref to allow them to take the resulting free kick from the wrong place with players clearly not realising the goal was ruled out, which allowed Exeter to score and win the game.
Those two incorrect decisions alone would have given us automatic promotion and potentially even won us the league.

It's just infuriating that every week the key talking point is the referees needing to be center of attention with their shockingly inadequate performances. Taking away from the game and putting into question what should have been.  
It'd be nice to go a few games without a game changing decision being wrong, whether that's for or against us.

That being said, we do need a few reinforcements, that are preferably not injury prone, as we seem to go every week with a player going down.
Hopefully Burge is back next week at the very least. With Sowerby back that will at least give us a bit of cover in the middle in terms of a defensive midfielder.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2023, 14:14:40 pm
You can't rely on officials to do their jobs at this level, thats the point. You can't rely on other teams to not field a youth team snd ruin promotion. You can't control any of it, you need to be good enough to be able to overcome all of it, because you can no rely on any of it being fair at this level.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 07, 2023, 14:34:57 pm
.................but not in equal measure.

The linesman was poorly positioned to give Eppiah incorrectly offside. If anything he reacted to the desperate Salford defender's plea for a flag for offside.

Agreed, collectively we were worse off. But would we have scored the pen? Would we have got a third after Eppiah etc. all ifs and buts.

Fact is we didn’t do enough to win the game. The majority of players were guilty awful in the first half. That’s not the refs fault.

We’ve won 1 in 4, 2 in 6. That’s not the refs fault either.

We are dropping points and will shortly be dropping down the league and that’s a fact.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: EB Claret on January 07, 2023, 14:38:34 pm
We were very poor in the first half, no drive and no quality.
After the break we were dominant for 25 minutes and if Eppiah's goal hadn't been wrongly ruled out we were well placed to go on and win the game.
What was really sad was that the Goal was so good. A superbly timed run and first touch and a good finish. It was a class above anything else in the match or League 2 for that matter, officially though, it never happened :(


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Welly Cobb on January 07, 2023, 14:58:58 pm
I will say Eppiah looked good, probably our best player today. I'd love to see Appere and Eppiah play together at some stage, but amazed considering his injury status he made it out of the shin stamp.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 07, 2023, 15:02:52 pm
I will say Eppiah looked good, probably our best player today. I'd love to see Appere and Eppiah play together at some stage, but amazed considering his injury status he made it out of the shin stamp.
Agree, that was a terrible tackle, how the ref or his assistant missed it is beyond me.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 15:07:48 pm
We were very poor in the first half, no drive and no quality.

I agree. My thoughts were;

1. The poor quality pitch.
2. the 12.30 start.
3. The lack of atmosphere.

Bottom line - the players didn't turn up.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2023, 15:23:16 pm
Agreed, collectively we were worse off. But would we have scored the pen? Would we have got a third after Eppiah etc. all ifs and buts.

Fact is we didn’t do enough to win the game. The majority of players were guilty awful in the first half. That’s not the refs fault.

We’ve won 1 in 4, 2 in 6. That’s not the refs fault either.

We are dropping points and will shortly be dropping down the league and that’s a fact.


Effectively this time your summary is correct. Then you spoil it any adding subjective pessimism calling it fact! You maybe right in your opinion. Would suggest that your last sentence betrays your hope that we do surrender 3rd Spot. All that will do is to come here crowing how right you were! Again your summary is for me spot on, you just can’t resist the pessimism touch. That’s a possible fact for me.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: WasRambo on January 07, 2023, 15:27:03 pm
Agreed, collectively we were worse off. But would we have scored the pen? Would we have got a third after Eppiah etc. all ifs and buts.

Fact is we didn’t do enough to win the game. The majority of players were guilty awful in the first half. That’s not the refs fault.

We’ve won 1 in 4, 2 in 6. That’s not the refs fault either.

We are dropping points and will shortly be dropping down the league and that’s a fact.

No, that's your opinion.

And I doubt anyone expects any other type of opinion from you


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2023, 15:27:41 pm
If you do go, can you let us know how the pies are?

They looked awful with some horrible looking sauce on top. That is if it was sauce!🥹


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 07, 2023, 15:58:35 pm
Well… We certainly showed those watching our full value 🙄🙄

The ref was fùcking useless, so looked completely in keeping with most of our side. Two things that above all struck me.

Firstly, too many players having a casual afternoon stroll instead showing genuine commitment.

Secondly, and far more importantly, in my opinion. Overweight players. It’s their job to be at the very least fit. I accept that these guys are not quite the elite athletes that grace the premiership. But some of them are just simply fat. In the last few games we have looked generally leggy and some players just plain slow.

The game today, regardless of the ref, could have been won just by some good old fashioned grit and determination. But it wasn’t there. And like it or not, Mysterious Curle will have his way. We will be out of the autos very soon.




Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: tcobb on January 07, 2023, 16:05:21 pm
What i cant believe is Brady  saying that Sowerby has lost alot of weight, just how heavy was he before ? Because he still looks a bit of a porker.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Madrid Cobbler on January 07, 2023, 16:08:02 pm
Agreed, collectively we were worse off. But would we have scored the pen? Would we have got a third after Eppiah etc. all ifs and buts.

Fact is we didn’t do enough to win the game. The majority of players were guilty awful in the first half. That’s not the refs fault.

We’ve won 1 in 4, 2 in 6. That’s not the refs fault either.

We are dropping points and will shortly be dropping down the league and that’s a fact.

Not at our best, but missing key players and playing on a park-like pitch and despite all that we only lost due to some very poor refereeing. You are quite simply the most consistently negative poster I have read on any message board. If we had 73 points out of a possible 75, you'd be moaning about the 2 points we'd dropped along the way.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 07, 2023, 16:22:25 pm
I don't comment on the matches as I don't go, but I feel mysterious may just be trying to rile people, he's as entitled to his opinion as the rest are. Perhaps if people stopped responding (everbrite) he may change his tune


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 07, 2023, 16:27:07 pm
They looked awful with some horrible looking sauce on top. That is if it was sauce!🥹
I was asking Worthless Recluse, not you, as I feel that he may have an interest in pies, and also anything associated with the groin area.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 16:30:57 pm
I don’t suppose any of the Journo’s asked JB about the injuries or any potential incomings?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: TPFKA Marvo on January 07, 2023, 16:33:17 pm
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I don't comment on the matches as I don't go, but I feel mysterious may just be trying to rile people, he's as entitled to his opinion as the rest are. Perhaps if people stopped responding (everbrite) he may change his tune

Is that the rule? Doesn't watching on TV count, even though you have a better view and get to see incidents replayed? I got a text from a mate at the game straight after the disallowed goal asking me if it was offside and had I not seen the tackle again that should and would have seen the Salford player sent off if we had VAR, I wouldn't have realised how bad it was.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: observer1 on January 07, 2023, 16:35:17 pm
I don’t suppose any of the Journo’s asked JB about the injuries or any potential incomings?

McWilliams and Magloire should be back within a month apparently, so that's positive.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 16:38:16 pm
I was asking Worthless Recluse, not you, as I feel that he may have an interest in pies, and also anything associated with the groin area.

We should offer Steve Evans the position as Resident Pie Expert - unfortunately just had his contract extended at Stevenage.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Irchy cob on January 07, 2023, 16:39:50 pm
McWilliams and Magloire should be back within a month apparently, so that's positive.

Cheers mate, that is good news - the rest of January is going to be tough though unless we’ve got some new recruits lined up (which it doesn’t sound like we have).


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 16:44:51 pm
Cheers mate, that is good news - the rest of January is going to be tough though unless we’ve got some new recruits lined up (which it doesn’t sound like we have).

This group nearly always bounce back and the atmosphere at Stockport will motivate them. A proper football club.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: CobblerForever on January 07, 2023, 16:46:22 pm
Judging by the highlights of the FA Cup games this afternoon I don't think there has been a single pitch that was worse than the condition of Salford's.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 07, 2023, 16:53:03 pm
Well unfortunately our away sequence, which I mentioned in my preview, came to pass. After starting the season with 3 away wins and 2 draws we lost at Walsall and after winning 3 and drawing 2 of the next 5 we lost again today. So we can look forward to a repeat of 3 away wins and 2 draws before we lose at Hartlepool (our record there is poor). But 11 points from each set of 6 fixtures to date is very acceptable.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: the grumpy old man on January 07, 2023, 16:59:54 pm
I bloody hate Salford. They were selling adult tickets at £5 and yet they could still only muster just over 2200 fans, (the gate was 2753 and there were 529 Cobblers there), it's a tin pot ground with tin pot support and a large budget - if only we had their money. The pitch was awful but they had a lot of rain so that may not be their fault.

As for the game we were hopeless first half and were lucky to be only 2 - 1 down and that was thanks to a lucky Sam Hoskins goal - albeit he deserved one of those for all the great goals he has scored this season. It is also true to say he maybe should have had another but the goalie made a save, but should he have been able too.? Anyway difficult to criticize him really.

Second half we were much the better team and there is no doubt in my mind that had Eppiah's goal stood we would have won - even without the obvious red card and penalty. Salford were as bad second half as we were in the first.

When Koiki is fit I would like to see him back at left back and AK moved over to the right. McGowan isn't the player he was since the injury - so far anyway. Keiron Bowie seems to have disappeared in the last few games although it's fair to say maybe today's pitch didn't suit him. As for Hylton he has been a massive disappointment, maybe JB can ship him out on loan to Brackley or Kettering - should they want him - as I said earlier I don't remember him touching the ball.

Magloire (for Sherring) and McWilliams must come straight back in as soon as they are fit and if Burge is going to be out for any length of time do we need a loan keeper? Maxted did nothing wrong today but then he wasn't tested.

In my opinion it's vital we keep Sammy but if we do sell him on (for big bucks only please) JB MUST be able to invest the money in replacements' and yes I know it's not easy in January.

Leonard is another we must keep.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 07, 2023, 17:24:09 pm
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Is that the rule? Doesn't watching on TV count, even though you have a better view and get to see incidents replayed? I got a text from a mate at the game straight after the disallowed goal asking me if it was offside and had I not seen the tackle again that should and would have seen the Salford player sent off if we had VAR, I wouldn't have realised how bad it was.

Rule? No, simply my choice!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3551 on January 07, 2023, 19:36:18 pm
What a shower of s***e that was. Luckily the missus has booked us in to Mana for some top scram to try and compensate. Hopefully the squid will get an outing when we get back to the hotel.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 07, 2023, 19:53:02 pm
What a shower of s***e that was. Luckily the missus has booked us in to Mana for some top scram to try and compensate. Hopefully the squid will get an outing when we get back to the hotel.
I'm off to pour bleach in my ears  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2023, 20:28:37 pm
I don't comment on the matches as I don't go, but I feel mysterious may just be trying to rile people, he's as entitled to his opinion as the rest are. Perhaps if people stopped responding (everbrite) he may change his tune

Perhaps he is but the one thing which negates his comments is the form of players, that is continued good form. I expect you have noticed his predilection of making some  rather insensitive personal comments on players. Now we hear some of the players are specifically are over-weight, a claim which I found surprising.  So I checked with a Fitness Coach at a prominent Northampton School and he pointed to the evidence of recent results which belay the overweight claim.  Sowerby has always had a chunky build but he was sorely missed for the first half today, as for McGowan he has just recovered from a serious injury but even so did not appear overweight as to cause alarm. In fact he put in a gritty performance, not his best by all means. It's a pity by your own admittance  that you don't go to matches as your opinion might be useful on here? You are of course fully entitled to an opinion just consider to be ready to debate it! Join in 'Jims Teyn Coaches' and have a great day out at Stockport,


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3063 on January 07, 2023, 21:04:17 pm

Perhaps he is but the one thing which negates his comments is the form of players, that is continued good form. I expect you have noticed his predilection of making some  rather insensitive personal comments on players. Now we hear some of the players are specifically are over-weight, a claim which I found surprising.  So I checked with a Fitness Coach at a prominent Northampton School and he pointed to the evidence of recent results which belay the overweight claim.  Sowerby has always had a chunky build but he was sorely missed for the first half today, as for McGowan he has just recovered from a serious injury but even so did not appear overweight as to cause alarm. In fact he put in a gritty performance, not his best by all means. It's a pity by your own admittance  that you don't go to matches as your opinion might be useful on here? You are of course fully entitled to an opinion just consider to be ready to debate it! Join in 'Jims Teyn Coaches' and have a great day out at Stockport,

It was Tel who mentioned them being overweight not Mysterious. I don't agree with his/her generally negative posts (Mysterious) but there is no need to accuse him/her of saying something he/she didn't say.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3063 on January 07, 2023, 21:24:40 pm
When I have a Saturday birthday I always know the result will go against us. Six years ago it was even worse.

7th Jan 2017 - Bristol Rovers 5 Cobblers 0

And we all know the famous interview and sacking after that game. Maybe, if I'm still here in 2029 we'll get better luck, but I doubt it  ::)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2023, 21:41:18 pm
It was Tel who mentioned them being overweight not Mysterious. I don't agree with his/her generally negative posts (Mysterious) but there is no need to accuse him/her of saying something he/she didn't say.

And a right back that isn’t significantly overweight!?

Personally didn't think that McGowan was not significantly overweight. Tel was also calling for a more gritty performance which is a reasonable comment but thought McGowan put himself about and did not shirk challenges. MC comment above is clearly aimed at McGowan.
 


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3063 on January 07, 2023, 21:44:03 pm
Personally didn't think that McGowan was not significantly overweight. Tel was also calling for a more gritty performance which is a reasonable comment but thought McGowan put himself about and did not shirk challenges. MC comment above is clearly aimed at McGowan who is not a fan of McGowan.
 

I stand corrected, Mysterious did mention an overweight player. Thanks for correcting my error.

That post you highlighted has now been deleted  ;)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 07, 2023, 21:59:40 pm
I stand corrected, Mysterious did mention an overweight player. Thanks for correcting my error.

That post you highlighted has now been deleted  ;)

Absolutely no need to delete your post as it is personal opinion. We all make errors but sometimes errors have their virtue. Just consider Liz Truss.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3063 on January 07, 2023, 22:03:46 pm
Absolutely no need to delete your post as it is personal opinion. We all make errors but sometimes errors have their virtue. Just consider Liz Truss.

No, I think Mysterious has deleted the post you highlighted, about McGowan.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: RowN on January 07, 2023, 22:14:35 pm
My viewpoint is lack of tackling and being too lightweight. Why do we allow teams to run at our defence and cause sup problems. We should tackle in their half, not on our goal line. Also too slow getting ball from back to the front men. Too much side to side at the back allowing opponents to re-organise, so no catching them on the break on 1 to 1s! But that is only my opinion!!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 08, 2023, 06:00:12 am
Very poor from McGowan

Not sure why you’ve name dropped sherring there, it’s McGowan’s side and he’s been the weak link, highlighted by their second goal!

Mcgowan has looked really slow trying to get back

McGowan looks like he's running through treacle every time he tracks back

McGowan needs to lose some weight. He looks like Mr Blobby.

McGowan does look overweight. Where as Maxted looks clinically obese. What’s going on there 😀

He's forgotten his gentleman's abdominal support.

McGowan is awful, and now we have a Teletubby in goal, but its the refs fault.


Nevers, whilst I love living rent free in your head I’ve highlighted the above so you can give a number of other posters a public dressing down where they’ve highlighted McGowans performance, weight and pace issues.

No doubt they would all love to hear about your conversation with the fitness coach at the prominent Northampton School…

Whilst I’m not a fitness coach from a prominent Northampton School, I think it’s pretty obvious he’s struggling with weight and its impacting ability to perform his job.

Visually there is a stark different between his circumference from this time last year, that cannot be denied.

He's been back playing in the first team for 11 weeks post injury, so you can’t hide behind that as an excuse.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 08, 2023, 07:17:02 am
The second goal was very poor from us and wouldn’t have happened if Mcwilliams and Sowerby were in midfield .
The first goal , we didn’t win the first or second ball .
That’s why we lost - control the controllables not the referee .
Also , Pinnock is a shadow of himself currently and Hylton hasn’t turned up .
Never mind new signings , we need Sowerby , McWilliams , Magloire , Appere and Koiki fit to maintain the challenge .


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3551 on January 08, 2023, 08:41:22 am
Personally didn't think that McGowan was not significantly overweight. Tel was also calling for a more gritty performance which is a reasonable comment but thought McGowan put himself about and did not shirk challenges. MC comment above is clearly aimed at McGowan.
 

You 'didn't think that McGowan was not significantly overweight'? Give this man a Torrone hit.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Winslow Lee on January 08, 2023, 09:01:24 am
I do wonder how much you can draw from that first half. The pitch was horrendous and it was like bambi on ice, both teams could barely stand up and pass to a player in their own colours. I’m not letting our team off of responsibility as we should have adapted to the conditions much better as Salford did who were far superior. It definitely seemed as the pitch dried out we were able to play to our normal game and had the better of the match. In the future we need to adapt our game much quicker but chances are we won’t play on a pitch like that for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 08, 2023, 10:24:42 am
No surprise that we lose and the match day thread runs into multiple pages. At least it gives our resident "always look on the bright side of life" Victor Meldrew the chance to vent his spleen but he still does that when we win. I was quite amused by the comment "20 minutes left and we have no out and out striker on the pitch, 2 sitting on the bench", Bowie was playing as an "out and out striker" through the middle and the 2 sitting on the bench were the prolific Hylton (what a difference he made when he came on) and Appere who said poster has constantly berated for having so few shots at goal.

Yes, the pitch was terrible and the game was in doubt of being played but we were terrible in the first half and without McWilliams and Sowerby they poured through the midfield and were getting far too many shots away and we were thankful for their 'keepers howler for our goal. Their second goal was awful as after Hoskins lost possession Watson was allowed to run from one penalty area to the other unchallenged and our defence was outnumbered.

A number of players are coming in for criticism, McGowan has had a very long time out with injury and is taking a while to reach the kind of performance we saw regularly saw last season but I have no doubt he will be one of the players JB referred to when he said he was looking at extending more of our existing players contracts. For some reason JB keeps switching Pinnock into the centre where he has never been as good as out wide. Magloire's injury is a blow as Sherring's recent performances have taken a dip.

Unfortunately Appere, who has been playing well, was not fit enough to start but given another week ought to be back next week and the same should apply to Sowerby. Presumably Appere would replace Bowie but I am unsure who drops out to bring Sowerby back, it would be tough on Eppiah to leave him out.

If Bradford beat Rochdale on Tuesday night they will be 4 points behind us with a game in hand but I would rather be in our position than any of the chasing pack and no doubt they also would.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest3548 on January 08, 2023, 12:05:04 pm
Any news on the injury to Burge?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 08, 2023, 12:06:53 pm
I was quite amused by the comment "20 minutes left and we have no out and out striker on the pitch, 2 sitting on the bench", Bowie was playing as an "out and out striker"


I’m not sure who you’re talking to but certainly not the nicest way to talk to a fellow supporter.

For the record, Bowie is an ‘attacker’ rather than a ‘centre forward’ hence why more often than not he is played wide in a front 3 - but hey, don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Worthless Recluse on January 08, 2023, 12:15:55 pm
I was asking Worthless Recluse, not you, as I feel that he may have an interest in pies, and also anything associated with the groin area.
Didn't go Tabasco.
Sat around the house all day instead, mostly w*nking.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 08, 2023, 12:43:27 pm
I agree that Bowie is often played out wide on the right when Appere is in the starting 11 but yesterday he was playing as an out and out striker down the middle and arguably some of his better performances have been in this role. However, yesterday was not one of his better games.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 08, 2023, 12:48:46 pm
We all make errors but sometimes errors have their virtue. Just consider Liz Truss.

Ooooohhhhh, bit of politics from Evers on a football thread.

Can I just ask which bit of messing up the country's economy could be interpreted as a virtuous error? Best put your answer on the Politics thread in General Chat so we don't upset the self appointed unofficial moderators.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 08, 2023, 13:51:19 pm
Any news on the injury to Burge?
Yeah apparently he ruptured a quarter pounder and extra large fries, although Maxted said he should be back next week after sharing a rack of lamb with him after the match.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Mysterious Curle on January 08, 2023, 14:16:06 pm
I agree that Bowie is often played out wide on the right when Appere is in the starting 11 but yesterday he was playing as an out and out striker down the middle and arguably some of his better performances have been in this role. However, yesterday was not one of his better games.

So what’s your point?  ???

Your latest post doesn’t match the narrative of your original post.

It sounds like for all intents and purposes you’ve agreed Bowie isn’t a centre forward and you’ve added that he didn’t play every well yesterday.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Tabasco Kid on January 08, 2023, 15:08:45 pm
Didn't go Tabasco.
Sat around the house all day instead, mostly w*nking.

The game wasnt that exciting..


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: lordjord on January 08, 2023, 15:46:44 pm
Disappointing result of course yesterday. Couple of musings from me.

1: The key decisions went against us, no doubt about that at all. But there are times (not yesterday) that we should be putting the game away and not relying on the ref's decisions. Feels like we rarely win comfortably.

2: The defence is leaky. McGowan is excellent in the air but he seems far slower following his injury. Lintott did nothing wrong at all and to be honest I feel he deserves his chance. Also when Koiki is back Odimayo can then slot in at RB which seems like it will be far more suited to him as he is clearly not a natural LB.

I also think Sherring has been a little disappointing overall this season. He came in highly rated but he lacks the dominance that many of our other CB's of recent years have done. He is still only 22 and can clearly improve, but so far he seems like quite a drop off from Horsfall. I would argue with Fraser still here we would be up there with Orient. That being said, i can see what JB and the gang are doing. Taking highly rated younger players and looking to develop them both for us and potential sales, which is how a club of our level is going to develop. So I fully back what JB is trying there, but i think when Koiki is back a reshuffle is needed.

3: I think the out and out 4-3-3 is most suited to us over a 4-2-3-1. It feels like when we play 2 midfielders and then a fluid front 4 that we struggle to keep as much control of the game. I would rather 3 of Fox, McWilliams, Leonard, Sowerby start and allow one of them to get forward more. If we are going to play with a 10 then I would rather it be Hoskins more so there or start to trial Harrop as I feel they are more naturally suited to that position.

4: Hylton has not worked out as a signing, that much is clear. But bringing him on for 20 minutes when we are starting to lump balls into the box and then criticising him seems a bit harsh. As I say, he has not produced in the odd occasion he has been called upon. But we signed his footballing brain and ability with the ball to feet. He needs bodies around him and ball to feet, i still think he could offer something more so at home when teams are sat deeper. But an upgrade at striker is still something I would love to see.

5: Despite our recent inconsistent results I have full trust in Brady and the gang. He is definitely building something, we are developing a clear style and we have the ability to win several games on the bounce. He speaks well, is passionate about the club, the fans and the area and long may that continue.

Lets hope to get McWilliams and Koiki back soon, hope for 1 or 2 proven quality additions and lets get that auto spot this season!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2023, 16:20:58 pm
Disappointing result of course yesterday. Couple of musings from me.

1: The key decisions went against us, no doubt about that at all. But there are times (not yesterday) that we should be putting the game away and not relying on the ref's decisions. Feels like we rarely win comfortably.

2: The defence is leaky. McGowan is excellent in the air but he seems far slower following his injury. Lintott did nothing wrong at all and to be honest I feel he deserves his chance. Also when Koiki is back Odimayo can then slot in at RB which seems like it will be far more suited to him as he is clearly not a natural LB.

I also think Sherring has been a little disappointing overall this season. He came in highly rated but he lacks the dominance that many of our other CB's of recent years have done. He is still only 22 and can clearly improve, but so far he seems like quite a drop off from Horsfall. I would argue with Fraser still here we would be up there with Orient. That being said, i can see what JB and the gang are doing. Taking highly rated younger players and looking to develop them both for us and potential sales, which is how a club of our level is going to develop. So I fully back what JB is trying there, but i think when Koiki is back a reshuffle is needed.

3: I think the out and out 4-3-3 is most suited to us over a 4-2-3-1. It feels like when we play 2 midfielders and then a fluid front 4 that we struggle to keep as much control of the game. I would rather 3 of Fox, McWilliams, Leonard, Sowerby start and allow one of them to get forward more. If we are going to play with a 10 then I would rather it be Hoskins more so there or start to trial Harrop as I feel they are more naturally suited to that position.

4: Hylton has not worked out as a signing, that much is clear. But bringing him on for 20 minutes when we are starting to lump balls into the box and then criticising him seems a bit harsh. As I say, he has not produced in the odd occasion he has been called upon. But we signed his footballing brain and ability with the ball to feet. He needs bodies around him and ball to feet, i still think he could offer something more so at home when teams are sat deeper. But an upgrade at striker is still something I would love to see.

5: Despite our recent inconsistent results I have full trust in Brady and the gang. He is definitely building something, we are developing a clear style and we have the ability to win several games on the bounce. He speaks well, is passionate about the club, the fans and the area and long may that continue.

Lets hope to get McWilliams and Koiki back soon, hope for 1 or 2 proven quality additions and lets get that auto spot this season!

Excellent report Lordy after reading some of the doom and gloom messages prior to yours.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: bungle on January 08, 2023, 16:33:58 pm

3: I think the out and out 4-3-3 is most suited to us over a 4-2-3-1. It feels like when we play 2 midfielders and then a fluid front 4 that we struggle to keep as much control of the game. I would rather 3 of Fox, McWilliams, Leonard, Sowerby start and allow one of them to get forward more. If we are going to play with a 10 then I would rather it be Hoskins more so there or start to trial Harrop as I feel they are more naturally suited to that position.


This. Yesterday's defeat was primarily due to a lack of central midfield control in the first half. In the absence of a fully fit Sowerby, I would rather that JB had played someone like Dyche as an emergency defensive midfielder rather than persist with Pinnock in the centre where his lack of pressing capacity is always painfully exposed.

If Harrop is getting released on the 31st then I think we need to get another centre mid body in, even if it's on loan. 4 players to cover 3 slots isn't enough cover and McWilliams is likely to be a few more weeks away.

I like Pinnock but he should be competing for a spot as wide forward, not shoehorned in as a number 10. His game is all about his crossing ability and capacity to drift inside and get shots off: capacities which are completely curtailed when he's played in a central role. I'd be playing Hoskins, Appere and Eppiah as the front three on current form and would be challenging Pinnock to match his creative contribution from last season to win back his place.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2023, 17:32:43 pm


Nevers, whilst I love living rent free in your head I’ve highlighted the above so you can give a number of other posters a public dressing down where they’ve highlighted McGowans performance, weight and pace issues.

No doubt they would all love to hear about your conversation with the fitness coach at the prominent Northampton School…

Whilst I’m not a fitness coach from a prominent Northampton School, I think it’s pretty obvious he’s struggling with weight and its impacting ability to perform his job.

Visually there is a stark different between his circumference from this time last year, that cannot be denied.

He's been back playing in the first team for 11 weeks post injury, so you can’t hide behind that as an excuse.


It is relatively well known that you have a real put down on McGowan and continue with it upto to the present day. Most of your examples you give are carefully edited to suit your disgraceful agenda on some Cobblers players and even Management. Nobody at the game through shouted insults at McGowan; in fact behind me several mature supporters vented their frustration at Eppiah when he was on the wing. When he played up front I thought he did ok. As for McGowan as you are aware he had a serious injury yet you dismiss that 'as it happened 11 weeks ago'. Until his injury he was firm favourite with many supporters. For me he is a fine full back who will again find form .A large proportion of your edited list don't actually mention the over weight factor. Once again you subtly ignore the 'treacle'  pitch conditions which affected most of our players 1st half. Even Hoskins lost his zip.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2023, 18:04:05 pm
Ooooohhhhh, bit of politics from Evers on a football thread.

Can I just ask which bit of messing up the country's economy could be interpreted as a virtuous error? Best put your answer on the Politics thread in General Chat so we don't upset the self appointed unofficial moderators.

I was giving an example of misplaced interpretation albeit a sarcastic one. Can't help it if you decided to take it as a political comment  ::)
Now look fwd to seeing you at Stockport. Some of your pals were at Salford and I did ask where you were. Tell me you are not a fairweather supporter.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2023, 18:28:14 pm
I’m not sure who you’re talking to but certainly not the nicest way to talk to a fellow supporter.

For the record, Bowie is an ‘attacker’ rather than a ‘centre forward’ hence why more often than not he is played wide in a front 3 - but hey, don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.

The best games Bowie has been involved in recently were at Gillingham and Bradford were he played to all intents and purposes as an old fashioned stand alone marauding 'Centre Forward'. For me an attacker is a very loose term as an explanation for a 'centre forward' of his ability.
You need to get to a few away games and mix with supporters. Won't hurt you!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 08, 2023, 18:58:12 pm
Mysterious - You seem to need help understanding other posters messages. No I did not say Bowie is not a centre forward I said he played as an out and out striker (centre forward) yesterday and some of his best performances have been when he has played in that role, I see that Everbrite concurs with this opinion. I think he looks more dangerous and likely to score down the middle than playing wide right.
Yes, I also said that yesterday was not one of his better games and that comment could be said about several other players. In my original post I said that I expect Appere to return to the starting 11 next week and that could be at Bowie's expense because Appere's recent form has been good and I would play Hoskins and Pinnock in the wide positions as Pinnock is not as effective when moved inside. Yesterday I would have kept Pinnock wide and played Eppiah centrally behind Bowie.
I don't think the above is open to misinterpretation but give it a go.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: northamptonnewbie on January 08, 2023, 19:36:26 pm
Disappointing result of course yesterday. Couple of musings from me.

1: The key decisions went against us, no doubt about that at all. But there are times (not yesterday) that we should be putting the game away and not relying on the ref's decisions. Feels like we rarely win comfortably.

2: The defence is leaky. McGowan is excellent in the air but he seems far slower following his injury. Lintott did nothing wrong at all and to be honest I feel he deserves his chance.

Yep felt lintott deserved to hold his place


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 08, 2023, 21:09:42 pm
I was giving an example of misplaced interpretation albeit a sarcastic one. Can't help it if you decided to take it as a political comment  ::)
Now look fwd to seeing you at Stockport. Some of your pals were at Salford and I did ask where you were. Tell me you are not a fairweather supporter.

I am quite fairweather, I was none too impressed when it was hammering it down on t' M62, but the sun came out when we got to Manchester, so we duely attended. Let's hope it shines at Edgeley Park this Saturday. I wonder which pals of mine you found.....


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: everbrite on January 08, 2023, 21:38:44 pm
I am quite fairweather, I was none too impressed when it was hammering it down on t' M62, but the sun came out when we got to Manchester, so we duely attended. Let's hope it shines at Edgeley Park this Saturday. I wonder which pals of mine you found.....

Macc Cobbler; I sat just in front of him and his wife. He was disappointed with the display 1st half. Asked how Grove was doing and told me he had not seen or heard from him for some time.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Coolcat on January 08, 2023, 22:16:10 pm
Macc Cobbler; I sat just in front of him and his wifet. He was disappointed with the display 1st half. Asked how Grove was doing and told me he had not seen or heard from him for some time.
She's not that short!


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on January 09, 2023, 17:44:55 pm
Yeah apparently he ruptured a quarter pounder and extra large fries, although Maxted said he should be back next week after sharing a rack of lamb with him after the match.

😀😀. You be careful Manny. You can be shot at from 30 paces on here for displaying a sense of humour.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Manwork04 on January 09, 2023, 18:27:52 pm
😀😀. You be careful Manny. You can be shot at from 30 paces on here for displaying a sense of humour.
;D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 09, 2023, 18:44:23 pm
Macc Cobbler; I sat just in front of him and his wife. He was disappointed with the display 1st half. Asked how Grove was doing and told me he had not seen or heard from him for some time.

OK, I saw him in passing at Mansfield and have a vague recollection of seeing Groovy Grove not so long ago, but can't think which game that was at. Stood with auntie and his family in the second half but Johnny Come Latelies won't know him, he is one of the originals from the early message board and inspiration of the "what's pumping auntie's stereo" thread in General Chat.

Also saw Semilong Old Boy who is the better half of the Fenners double act. Saw LeighCobb in passing as well.

All Northern Cobblers. Perhaps see some Northampton based Cobblers at Stockport if there is no option of staying at home to watch it on the TV.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: west stand oap on January 10, 2023, 10:02:55 am
McGowan says the Salford pitch is the worst EFL pitch he has played on but it was the same for both teams and Salford adapted to them far better than we did in the first half and could have been more than 1 goal ahead at the break. It has been mentioned that McGowan and Sherring were not at their best and I thought that Guthrie was not also, in fact Odimayo playing out of position on the left was our best defender on the day.

In his team selection for the Orient game JB had Magloire at centre back and moved Sherring to right back leaving McGowan on the bench so he appears to recognise that McGowan has not yet his level of performance of last season. Having been out for months with his injury this is not surprising but with Magloire now injured lets hope he can step up.

A lot of criticism on here for the referee and his lino who got some big decisions wrong so we hope for better at Stockport when Rebecca Welch will be officiating. When we had her last season I thought she had a decent game and was better than several male referees we have had.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 10, 2023, 16:31:23 pm


A lot of criticism on here for the referee and his lino who got some big decisions wrong so we hope for better at Stockport when Rebecca Welch will be officiating. When we had her last season I thought she had a decent game and was better than several male referees we have had.

I think you are being very generous to the male s***ty refs we get in this s***ty division.
I remember her from that game and I would say that she was one of the best ones (of any gender!!) we’ve seen at Sixfields in the last couple of years.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Jim Hall Fixit on January 10, 2023, 16:36:21 pm
This. Yesterday's defeat was primarily due to a lack of central midfield control in the first half. In the absence of a fully fit Sowerby, I would rather that JB had played someone like Dyche as an emergency defensive midfielder rather than persist with Pinnock in the centre where his lack of pressing capacity is always painfully exposed.

If Harrop is getting released on the 31st then I think we need to get another centre mid body in, even if it's on loan. 4 players to cover 3 slots isn't enough cover and McWilliams is likely to be a few more weeks away.

I like Pinnock but he should be competing for a spot as wide forward, not shoehorned in as a number 10. His game is all about his crossing ability and capacity to drift inside and get shots off: capacities which are completely curtailed when he's played in a central role. I'd be playing Hoskins, Appere and Eppiah as the front three on current form and would be challenging Pinnock to match his creative contribution from last season to win back his place.


Spot on Bungle.
Every time Mitch plays in the middle we struggle.
Not sure if it’s correlation or causation?
Do we struggle because he really isn’t a centre mid?
Do we struggle because we miss his crosses from the wings?
Do we struggle because if he’s playing CM it probably means Sean isn’t playing?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: RowN on January 10, 2023, 18:26:38 pm
I always thought Pinnock as a midfielder is about as good as a chocolate fire guard!!

We always struggle when he plays, basically because he’s lightweight and doesn’t do any tackling.

How many assists has he this year?? Can’t be that many?? I’m
 


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 10, 2023, 18:39:41 pm
How many assists has he this year?? Can’t be that many??

According to the BBC sports website, he has 6, which is the 4th highest in the division.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Coolcat on January 10, 2023, 18:56:13 pm
According to the BBC sports website, he has 6, which is the 4th highest in the division.
Shouldn't you be at Valley Parade...cheering on Dale?


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Bingers on January 11, 2023, 06:42:37 am
Shouldn't you be at Valley Parade...cheering on Dale?

I think they can manage perfectly well without my assistance.  :D


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 11, 2023, 09:09:29 am
I think they can manage perfectly well without my assistance.  :D

And they did... ;)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on January 11, 2023, 21:43:38 pm
I’ll start to worry when we get beaten on merit. We weren’t.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: guest2995 on January 18, 2023, 19:57:31 pm
Rumour is this game would have been called off if it wasn’t on TV .
Burge pulled his calf in the warm up on the rubbish pitch .
Superfluous now but interesting none the less .


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 19, 2023, 05:25:47 am
Rumour is this game would have been called off if it wasn’t on TV .
Burge pulled his calf in the warm up on the rubbish pitch .
Superfluous now but interesting none the less .

That was the thought amongst us whilst we were on the way up.  ;)


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Vince Planner on January 19, 2023, 07:23:57 am
And if we had won, we wouldn’t be questioning the decision to play the match. We lost, move on.


Title: Re: Salford City - 7 January 2023 1230hrs KO
Post by: Deepcut Cobbler on January 19, 2023, 09:00:56 am
And if we had won, we wouldn’t be questioning the decision to play the match. We lost, move on.

We lost on a relative carpet last week as well, let's move on.  ;)