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Looking forward to next Friday and a night in London...

..hope this isn't going to give the jammy non-leaguers new found optimism!

http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/11/edgar-davids-barnet?cat=football&type=article (http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/11/edgar-davids-barnet?cat=football&type=article)

Only lasted a couple of months at Palace...hopefully, a spanner in the works for them...joint coach!

Anyway, Southampton Arms, Kentish Town...from 4pm!  ;)

they are not a non league club they are an established FL club

Subtleties and tongue-in-cheek radar not your strong point Mackem?  ::)

no not at this time of night ;D

Tozer v Edgar Davids... I'd back Ben to win that one.

On the basis that Tozer has had his squint corrected and Edgar hasn't?

They are not an established league club.
Using the generally accepted Oxford ruling, who joined the league in 1962, Barnet will have to wait until 2045 before being accepted as established football league club. They should be grateful the Peterborough ruling, who joined the league in 1960, has been recently discarded by an FA directive of 1992.

I can't wait for next Friday.... a Leo Sayer for me and a few....I guess it's going to be costly lol.

Could even go fifth on Friday!!!!!!!!

Keeping in touch with the playoffs essential, so officially our first MUST WIN game of the season!

Perms are just soo last season sweetheart.  ;)

Regarding tickets for Barnet, the NTFC website says there are no advanced tickets but the Barnet website says you can only get concession/junior tickets in advance! Might be worth calling Barnet ticket office to check if you are wanting to concessions

Anyone know what the prices are for standing tickets?

Let's be realistic, a record of W4 D4 L4 can only be described as mid-table form.

They doubled their average crowd today, or was there a good following from Plymouth?

Plymouth are pretty well supported especially how they have struggled since dropping down from league 1 so I'd guess it was good away support rather than home support tbh

A quick look tells me that the home end sold 700 tickets more than usual, the rest of the extra attendance was Plymouth fans having a day out in London..

Most of them live in London. PASALB take about 400 to most London area matches.

£16

I´m sure that every club in the country got quite a lot of fans living in London, it´s just a matter of getting them to attend games

It's like when people go oooh look Carlisle had 600 down at Orient for a Tuesday night match. Yeah maybe so, but I bet about 500 of them live within about 40 miles

Is there a reason for this game being on a Friday night?

They're embarrased by their shed of a ground and would rather it was dark so you can't really see it properly? :P

Plymouth more than most because there is very little work available in Cornwall and west Devon. They have always had big away followings in the SE. I imagine we might take 500 there on Friday night.

Always find it a tad irritating when 'smaller' clubs, i.e. Blackpool, Hull et-al suddenly get a 'London Branch' flag once hitting the big time!

Regarding Plymouth's London fanbase...clubs further afield are always going to have that 'exile' affinity attached to their support. Carlisle also, understandably, get a fair percentage of their away support from the capital area when travelling south. Less likely I'd imagine, to see a 'Stevenage London Branch' flag away!  ;D

I understand Barnet have not won a game all season. I have a very bad feeling about this game.

Don't worry..this time!  ;)

Said in the paper that Davids plans to play in a fortnight so i'm guessing he'll miss our games. No worry Emyr Huws>Edgar Davids (now)  ;D

He's 39 and has played about 30 games since 2007. I wouldn't be bothered if he played against us.

Ref their improved attendance yesterday....there were of course no Prem or Championship games, hence no competition really for their fans money! Even Brentford and Orient in League 1 were away. AFC Wimbledon were at home to Cheltenham and pulled in their highest gate of the season, and just over 1000 up on their previous home game.

I think Barnet on a Friday can only be for the same reason, to maximise the potential support,what with Tottenham at home to Chelsea on the Saturday.

How much is it on the gate for the terrace?

This is no ordinary 39 year old, it's Edgar Davids, the bloke with the dreads and the goggles. I don't think we should be allowed to beat him, it doesn't feel right. Sorry but we simply aren't cool enough.

Anyone got any old welding goggles we could give bayo ? That would be a sight for sore eyes  him charging  towards ya !!!!     :afro

be in the Brewdog pub in camden at 1pm before the game, if anyone fancies it

That sounds like it's going to be a good afternoon!  ;D

Whats the easiest way to get to Barnet from Euston?

High Barnet tube station, last stop on the northern line. Ticket zone 5.
http://goo.gl/maps/5VNnT

And if youre early,
http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/results.shtml/tu/135

I love em.. :afro
Sweetheart  :-[

i dont care what the attendance is, id like 3 points and to be sitting in the plays come 10pm friday, and its my 24th birthday saturday :) so it would be a great present!!

TICKET WARNING FOR FRIDAY!

The are NO concessions on the gate at Underhill. If you want a Junior / Senior ticket you need to call the ticket office at Barnet on 0208 449 6325 or go on their website and purchase them online. Otherwise it's £16 standing or £17 seating for all

Wasn't it £22 a couple of seasons ago? Don't tell me something in this world has actually gone down in price!!

How many do you think we can muster for the trip down then?

It surely can't have been £22 at Underhill? That would be outrageous! In saying that, you could be right as I've always been on the terrace.

So non concessions can still pay at the gate?

According to NTFC Official Site, it would appear so if you want to sit down. No standing concessions on the day. Have to say this contradicts what Barent told me today which was no concessions full stop on day.

C & E:
Aidy Boothroyd has warned Barnet that his Cobblers team can feel themselves improving with every passing game.

Please stop hyping us up. This applies to the manager and the press. Let's win there before talking.

That' s how it worked last season........concessions allowed on the gate = if you sit in the stand behind the goal: North family stand.

AB clearly feels that the Davids arrival as joint-manager/coach is unworkable. Let's hope that that is the case tomorrow night anyway.

Does anybody know what time you can purchase advance tickets online/by the phone up until?

Not sure where you get £22.00 from ??? Because I went 2 years ago and paid £15.00 terrace.

yes

I have just booked my stand ticket and we have taken just 28 seats......bloody hell!

28 moaning old gits. At least on the terrace you can move away.

If we win by five we go fourth!  ??? 8)

AB: “I know, and the players know, that if we’re at our best we’ll get a positive result and if we’re not at our best then we might not.
“We want to make sure we’re consistent and I think, having seen all of the teams in the league, that if we do that then we’ll win a lot more games than we lose.”

First observation is stating the obvious. As for the second one, that is the problem facing every manager (almost) in this league. Most players are in the fourth tier because they are not consistent.

I think we are a little bit off the pace in terms of league points so far this season, I was hoping for 18 points from 12 games and we have 16. The Exeter win was a big result and with Barnet bottom of the league this is a great opportunity to get back to back wins before two hard games against Bradford and Port Vale. I think we have had a good start to the season when you factor in the cup runs and we are not that far off things in the league, but we need to stay clear of injuries to key players and I still have concerns about the defence, but Aidy is insisting that the team will improve as the season goes on and if we can get to 35 points by game 23 we will be on course for a play-off place. That's 19 points from the next 33, Barnet is a good chance to make it 16 from 30.

Team : L Nicholls - Hackett, Langmead, Charles, Widdowson - Demontagnac, Huws, Tozer, A Nicholls - Platt, Akinfenwa.
Subs : Snedker, Hornby, Roofe, Mukendi, Wilson, Moult.

Anyone aware of any good watering holes near to the ground?

bit late for that!!! JJ, Artell, Guttridge, Harding...

Not near the ground but if going by train I highly recommend going to Camden and visiting the worlds end and the Camden eye

Sadly i am travelling down by car. If theres nothing around i can always get some white lightning and find a nice park bench...

Red Lion, outside the away end.
http://goo.gl/maps/5dmJv

DAVIDS came out of retirement to play for ... BARNET   ;D ;D ;D ;D

May make debut tonight against Cobblers after being given the 38 shirt    :-*      ::)

Yes, according to TalkSport he is registered and available for selection tonight.

Although obviously he has/will bring publicity to Barnet, along with bums on seats, playing wise i think he will struggle. He will be playing with terrible players (you dont get 3 points from 12 games in this league for no reason). But most of all his legs will not be able to do now what they could previously, in the centre of midfield i can see youth such as tozer and huws just breezing past him. Which will be a shame for such a legendary player!

I think you are right about him struggling to keep pace with the game at his age but he won't be expected to play 90 minutes. If he gets a half chance around the edge of the box it doesn't matter how old he is he'll still know how to knock it in. And you just know if it's going to happen to anyone it's going to be us ::)

Ridiculously OTT article by Lake in the paper today. He even states:
"They are there for the taking and this Northampton team, which is starting to build some form and momentum, will take them." Really will look like an ass if we lose. Not sure that one league win and a victory over Colchester's stiffs can be called form and momentum.

It's the sort of form Barnet would kill for ATM.

I remember Rob Lee playing for Wycombe a few years back, he didn't run around much but his positioning, passing and distribution were sublime.  Davids could be the same.

I agree that Jefferson's article is a bit OTT. However if we have any aspirations of pushing for play-offs, we have to be beating what is a TERRIBLE barnet team fairly comfortably. I dont expect a huge win, but it would be nice to see us give someone a good tonking at some stage. Biggest wins i can remember last few years were 3-0 against exeter last week, and i believe the same scoreline against aldershot at home last year? Cant remember the last time we scored 4?

We beat Accrington Stanley 4-0 at home, 2nd Feb 2010. Think that was the last one?

We scored 6 against Crewe the season before last. We also put 4 past Accrington and 5 past Crewe the season before that.

If you want to advise caution against a team that hasn't won all season we may as well give up now

Agreed. Thought the piece was bang on to be fair.

0-0 tonight then ;D

its raining hard here in London BTW

Let's hope they've shut the roof then  ;)

AND how many years is it that we have not been completed outplayed by Barnet at Underhill? Normally lose about 4-1 except last year when they still ouplayed us, AND yes they have always been near the bottom so no different now.

This is a really strange game, in regards to how our season will look at  the end of play tonight, a win, which I expect us to do comfortably, and we will all be looking to get at the top 3 and automatic promotion. Should we lose however we will enter into a relegation dog fight!
 Cobblers by 2.

IF we win, we will NOT be looking at automatic promotion.

Not looking forward to this one as have to listen on the radio, being at home with a virus and feeling lousy  :(

no self-respecting journalist suggests that the Cobblers - of all sides - will definitely win an away league match.

I certainly won't be heading there in an hour's time expecting to win. Hoping, of course. Even quietly hopeful. But I'll be amazed if it proves to be a simple venture!

Well despite living in North London my economic situation means I've decided I just can't justify £16 on entry tonight, gutted :'(

But at least I should be able to eat next week, at least the first part!

There in spirit...

Northampton Town @ntfc   6m
Today’s team: Nicholls, Hackett, Langmead, Charles, Widdowson, Roofe, Tozer, Huws, Nicholls, Akinfenwa, Platt

Northampton Town @ntfc   6m
Subs: Snedker, Wilson, Moult, Hornby, Mukendi, Demontagnac

Can't get commentary..again..

Only egg chasing on radio :(. Think they said people having trouble getting there problem with the m25

Just turned off Radio Numpty. Is it just me, or are their rugby commentators really dour?

I wonder what the odds are for getting sent off on his first game.  Then getting pissed off with the whole thing and jacking it in.

I got here at 8:10. There is still a big queue outside Cobblers entrance.

Are we going up hill or down hill?

Down hill apparently.

We're having chances

Oh yeah thats them dour,he even whispers when they are taking a kick at goal posts???? They are on sky surely radio n`pton could put the cobblers on at least the 2nd half

Yes! I forgot about that.

No change there then!  ;)

I'm starting to get a very bad feeling about this game.

I told you.

Lewis Wilson on for Hackett.

Cos you never know, you might still need the shades.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5mEpfECIAAB5hK.jpg)

Bollocks

Hmmm, 1-0 down against the $hittiest team in $hittendom

Topsy turvey old season so far  :-\

We've seen this so many times before at Barnet. It always ends in tears.

For f***s sake!!!

bollox..2-0

Double bollocks

Complete garbage  :(

Terrible, terrible result  >:(

Why do we always lose against these bunch of cxxts. Fxxking load is sh1te.

Odds on a Boothroyd out thread?  :P

Not suprised in the least. We have seen this so many times b4. Play a team on a long winless run and what do we do..... one step forward, then two steps back!

This is like a bad joke

Don't be ridiculous.  Its just our paper thin squad is being severely shown up for lack of quality. For any team in league two who has lost the kind of players we have would struggle also. But adb out is not the solution.

Im not too downbeat I'm sure we will stay up comfortably this season.
That in itself has got to be a sign of progression.

Stop it.

Some people just never learn *sigh*  :(

Does my post really say that I want Boothroyd out?, read again  ::)

3-0

Sweet f***ing Jesus!!!

Boothroyd out!


(Only joking!!)

4-0!!!

Explain this one away then all you claret tinted apologists....

Same team able to beat Exeter, not a question of quality or squad strength for me but player attitude and mental toughness.

It doesn't just rain, it pours.

From the BBC website, it seems as though, although we shaded the first half, we didn't have a single chance in the 2nd half. Fxxking awful. I think we need some loanees inas short term cover. Too many kids.

Utterly disgusting, no fight at all. Boothroyd's right about a 'work in progress'.

True, but for some reason we just don't perform on the road, or more appropriately, NEVER AT UNDERHILL.

There are no words that can describe what I have just witnessed.

Perhaps he said "wank in progress"?

;D

We're not fifth then.

Fair enough, I just don't want the mention of it as he is still the man for the job. A probable win on Tues night and everyone will be looking upwards again.

Utter s***. To lose 4-0 to a side that hasn't won in 12 games it terrible. Heads must roll after this defeat...

In Aidy we trust...

Much improved from last season...
 ::)

Atleast we don't roll over and take a beating like last season  :P

Incredible that we couldn't even manage a single shot the entire second half against the worst side in the division that have let in 11 goals in the last 5 games alone.

Indescribably poor. 3 points should have been the target, instead we suffer what is likely to be the most embarrassing defeat of the weekend across all divisions.

I can explain it away by repeating my statement last week.
Sooner or later our reliance on young loanees will be shown up.
They will all have an off night due to inconsistency and will take a dicking.
This has now come to pass.
We will probably win our next game when they will play ok.
We can expect no more as it is a route we have gone down as we will not pay cash for proven players(not even a loan fee).
If the policy changes we may get somewhere but under the current regime this is the limit of our aspirations.
I expected no different and so am not that concerned.
Others who think we should be challenging in this league may feel differently.
I've said it many times.
YOU WILL NOT PROGRESS WITH A TEAM OF LOANEES.
Sign us some bloody players of our own.

Why do we bother even turning up at Barnet , we could go there ,they could field their U15's and we would still lose. :(

Whose head, exactly?

So i'm not being ridiculous then?  ;)

Nice to see MK Cobbler back ,we missed you last week  ::)

Might be wrong but I thought we only had 2 loan players starting, Huws signed because of an injury crises and Roofe playing because Demontagnac (our own player) isn't very good.

My mistake Nicholls too, for me our current best player this season

I love it when people use selective stats. They only let in one goal in the two games before that five so we should be grateful to have got a corner (did we get one?)

I can see it others can't.
We get in cheap youth loans
We have a paper thin squad of Northampton players.
We will get a few dickings and will win enough to stay up.
We can't go up as we haven't got 11 players contacted as Northampton players who are good enough and we cannot purchase the quality to improve long term.
That was surely obvious weeks ago.
If we stay up I'm happy.
I used to hope for promotion but looking at the way the team is now structured I'm happy to stave off relegation.
Nothing has changed this season and nothing will change.
DC will keep us up.
He is unable financially to get us promoted.
That has been my opinion for five years and I dare say it will be in a further five.

Easy to forgive Rotherham failing to score against Barnet when they went down to 10 men and still managed to come away with a point. We don't have that excuse at our disposal, I'm afraid. It was just a shockingly bad performance from start to finish, and that lack of any efforts whatsoever in the second half backs that up completely.

Can't wait to read what Boothroyd's got to say about this one.

No wonder we struggled look at the team we had out according to the official site. Click on Barnet V Northampton

http://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/article/barneta1213-427021.aspxd

Or perhaps he didn't  ::)

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!1

As for players such as lee nicholls.
They are absolutely of no long term benefit to Northampton town football club.
He is a very good player and will be a premiership player for Wigan who will reap the benefits.
He is a short term fix for us.
I'd rather put our young goalkeeper in the team.
I'd have Hornby over roofe for the same reasons.
Play our own players who may make the grade with a bit of experience.
Put eleven Northampton town players in the team and get rid of the loans.
I'm sure we'd take a few dickings and win a few too.
Bare in mind we've just been dicked 4-0 by the bottom club despite having all these short term fixes.
If we need to play inexperienced goalies wingers midfielders at least let's give our own lads the chance.

An embarassing, pathetic, spineless second half performance where me made an awful Barnet team look like Ajax. Over 770 Cobblers fans turned up, some not making it until over half an hour in to the game and that is how we were repaid. We can not get away with a midfield of kids no matter how good they are. Platt was a waste of space and once Hackett went off they detroyed us down the right.

Majorly p****d off and the whole weekend to think about

We can try and play this down as much as we want, but this is an absolutely disgraceful result.  Yes we have injuries, but Barnet have been nothing short of pathetic this season, an absolute shambles. DC needs to put his hand in his pocket, using some of the MJ money

Maybe now the ridiculous AB hype fans will shut up. We have regressed since Sammo, not progressed.

Haha! Brilliant. Chris Dunn was busy as an unused sub for both sides.
Thanks for spotting that.

The only consolation is that I couldn't make the game due to working late. It really is an absolute embarrassment of a result. Barnet should have been well and truly hammered ... completely agree that some investment is much needed in this team.

The clubs a laughingstock, very sad.

Fair point. Did we get a corner?

Have you always been stupid?  ???

I blame that horrible green kit  >:D

Some investment has been needed for a long time but isn't forthcoming.
Does anyone have any reason to think the board will invest.
In a nutshell in the last couple of weeks Barnet who survive on lower gates than us have made the permanent signings of Collins John and Edgar davids to add quality and momentum to their season.
Northampton have signed mukendi east roofe and huws none of which I'd ever heard of and none had experience.
I don't suspect for a minute Collins John and Edgar David's cost less than our youth players!!!
Result 4-0 to Barnet.
How I eagerly await our next low profile signing ::)

Good job it's only a game....... >:D

I would f***ing hate to get stuck in a lift with you.

Why can't this place ever react normally to any game. Dreadful result, effortless performance (and I'm not using that in the sense that it's normally used), but last game people were taking about Huws taking us to the next level, and how we were going to go on a run that would lead us back to the next division, etc etc. We'll probably win next game and then automatic promotion will be back on in some peoples eyes.

We've got a small squad, which was probably originally good enough to have us around mid-table to playoffs with some good organisation, and it's suffering an injury crisis. We played a team revitalised by an actual footballing legend joining them in the 4th division of English football, and we didn't turn up at all.

I would like to see five losses on the trot before we embark on self-destructive panic mode please, not one.

You're not the only one who thinks that.......still in the minority mind you! But imo you're right....we've had a steady stream of players (Bunn, Dunn, Jacobs, Johnson etc) and failed to replace them adequately using the money we made.
Look at the team now....where's the next saleable asset? Right, there isn't one! The chairman said we'd not go down the overload with loanees road again.....ffs its still only October and look at us!
Nothing done to the stadium, nothing done to improve the matchday experience and nothing done to the playing squad......how long does sentiment last these days??? 9 years or so?

Pretty sure Collins John didn't play tonight and is generally regarded as a fat mess by Barnet fans

I'm not sure about the merits of lifts but it would be interesting to hear people's opinions on the merits of signing two top class players as opposed to four youth team players that I'd never heard of.
For what it's worth I think a bit of quality and leadership outweighs inexperience every time.
People are also more likely to want to pay to watch Edgar David's than kemar roofe.
The fact is casual fans in Northampton may have heard of ex international and champions league winner edgar Davids but may not be enticed to sixfields in the anticipation of watching players they have never heard of.

It's turning into silly season now  ;D

We were poor tonight

Give it a rest Shoey. Because otherwise people may accuse you of starting to sound boring.

need investment? every manager has been given a great budget by the chairman. Not one has done the business.

Davids is playing for free at the moment. Has been coaching in Brixton free of charge as well.

On that basis then we should sign Francis Jeffers because he has played for England? Malcolm Christie anyone?
Once half of our squad return from injury we will be fine.Relax

other than Roofe the same team that beat a very good Exeter side

to put it blunt, we just werent good enough and we havent been all season, well be mid table at best! were like england of league 2overated and expected to do well, but infact we have been since relegation an average league 2 side! and unfortunately will continue to be!!

The team on the link has been changed , when I posted the team contained Chris Dunn,Jason Crowe ,Leon Contantine ect plying for both teams and the same players on the bench !

The point I am making is being missed by many.
Last year the chairman said in an interview that lessons would be learned as regards the reliance on untried loans.
He also said this in a face to face meeting with myself.
This year we have again gone down the same route except we have started with a smaller contracted squad.
They are the facts of the matter.
What is depressing is the fact that you can be told one thing by the people who ultimately as fans you place your faith and cash in only to be at best misinformed maybe misled or at worst downright lied too.
Now I'm sure il be hauled in the bollocking room by the club again by expressing this opinion but if they or anyone else can tell me I'm wrong then please do.
You can't have people at the top saying one thing and doing another.
It leads to a breakdown in trust between club and fans and sends out a very bad message.
I think now would be a very good time for DC to do another webchat so he can explain why this is the case,why incoming fees have not been reinvested,why no money is spent on the ground,what is going on with the statement on the redevelopment and plans for catering etc.
I'm sure many will harp on about meeting him again but surely people must agree that a webchat would be good to clear up these issues.

No point, because you will not listen.
You just go on, and on, and on.  Give it a break.

You had a meeting with the chairman? Why haven't we heard about this before?!? :P

I'm sorry I was merely pointing out that other posters have asked questions regards redevelopment,policy,catering to name a few.
I've merely suggested a webchat wouldn't be a bad idea.
As regards going on.
A comment was made in interview stating that we would no longer rely on the loan system of untried players.
That is a fact.
This season we are relying on untried loan players.
Am I the only poster on this forum who is willing to pick up on this and show that the original statement has been backtracked.
If no other poster is concerned by this u turn and everyone is happy for things to go on like this then it is no wonder things are not improving.
I think I raise a very fair point here and others sit back and deride it.
I've said it before the apathy of many fans is a secondary reason why we are not progressing as a club and this is yet another example of it.
Many are just as quick to moan but very slow in trying to get answers.

Brilliant  ;D

We had our own very fat mess on the pitch too :o . I am beginning to think that Shoemaker may have a point on young loanees - as those tonight were pretty dismal. The point has been made that we sell but nether replace adequately hence the overall piss poor form. Tonight we had good support and to play like that really stank - the chants of "what a load of rubbish" were deserved.

We have a whole host of loans because we have 7 or 8 first team players out injured.

People need to take a chill pill a bit here. We have unprecedented injuries. The loans are plugging the gap and there really is no choice.

Aidy had a budget, his choice was (a) small squad of quality, plug the gaps with loans. Or (b) a big squad of mediocre (relative) players. Net result...same cost.

The gamble so far hasn't paid off, thats clear for all to see. But Im pretty sure that in the same circumstances most of us would have done the same thing? So really unless your are in 'The B camp' then try and deal with it!

Torn to shreds by a 39-year-old who hasn't played a game in 2 years. Can only think of one player who actually put in any effort or running (Wilson) and even he was ****e. The less said about tonight the better. Let's move swiftly on to Bradford on Tuesday.

As I keep saying, we are wracked by injuries and what we have left is loanees whose real allegiance is elsewhere plus a dispirited residue which is very ordinary. Nicholls in goal is an exception & maybe Langmead.
As to going to Barnet, I've reached a stage in life when loyalty is tempered by reality: their ground is vile, their pricing policy for away fans is discriminatory, and running the gauntlet of the M1 and M25 on a Friday night is for either diehards or the mentally challenged. Well done those who got there but I've had my fill of it.

Jefferson Lake will look like a total unit after his Cobblers steamrolling Barnie article..

Yep that was the one that was probably pinned up in the Barnet dressing room before kick off!! As probably was Emyr Hews ridiculous statement at the end of last Saturdays match saying they're bottom etc etc we should beat them!!

Well said. I also think it's time for a reality check. Most of us expected a mid table finish this year, even Boothroyd said it would be a season of consolidation. Then we had a good start, everyone got a bit carried away and over excited (myself included) and now we're settling to the level we kind of expected to be at. Next year, given the chance and with a full budget to play with I expect us to kick on but the truth is this year we'll have good games, we'll have bad games and we'll finish more or less where we are now. It's frustrating, but there's really no need to panic, we just aren't the finished article.

I'm not "accepting mediocrity" or "happy supporting a mid table side" to coin the two old chestnuts that usually get rolled out, I'm just realistic enough to recognise that things don't happen overnight and when they do they are seldom built to last. Give Boothroyd time and I still believe he'll build us something that will last.

Well, i'll vent my spleen and get it out of my system even though there arent enough words about how distressing last night was.

I think the thing that sticks out in my mind is seeing the 700+ away fans and knowing that the majority would have taken a half day off to witness the digusting performance. Thinking about those people on low incomes whose trip to Barnet was their only "entertainment" for the whole weekend is fcuking tragic.

I sit in disbelief at the difference in performance levels from the 3-0 victory over high flying Exeter to 4-0 thrashing by bottom club Barnet. I even cantwork out how the performance levels dipped from one half to the next (first half we edged, second we were comprehensively spanked).

Yes Davids was good but if you let any player of any level play they will take advantage. I would say that only the keeper and Langmead came out with any credit and thats pushing it. The rest frankly should hang their heads in shame. There was nothing that resembled anything like professional football and to think that these men train all week to serve up sh*t like that is galling beyond words.

There was barely a tackle, a forward run, a deliberate pass a shot or anything that resembled football in the entire second half. A half cut manager on the racecourse would have been going apoplectic let alone Boothroyd.

The players made a mockery of the club on a national scale, with the worlds media decending on Barnet to cover Edgar Davids, who despite pushing 40 applied himself with more conviction that our entire side and bench put together.

I was bitterly dissapointed with the likes of Ben Tozer, who despite being six foot plus is a total **** in the tackle and looks to be made of glass. Likewise Alex Nicholls who despite playing in a game where he should have been on the shoulders of a ropy defence was totally anonymous. One good chance he had to chase down a ball (1 on 1) saw him show no conviction in running and then pull out of the chance to tackle the keeper. Bayo, despite saying how much he loves the club showed zero movement and looked frankly to be an overweight mess. He put more effort into berating the officials and then hugging the Barnet players than he did in his play. Platt went trhough the motions but you can see better hold up play in the UCL.

No player deserved more than a 2 out of 10. If i was more cynical i would put forward a few conspiracy theories as to that "performance" but they would all be libellous. I blame the manager to a limited extent but the players should shoulder the blame for one of the worst showings of the cobblers ever. And we have endured some sh*t.

When they emerge on Tuesday I suggest fans don't boo the team, they should remain silent and let the player's conscience's (if they have any) tick over. They are embarrassments.

I see Aidy is starting to favour the ‘injury’ excuse after stating a couple of weeks he would not do so. Time to wise up I’m afraid, we were always going to experience injuries  so  there’s only one man to blame when it comes down to our paper thin over budget side.  It still baffles me how we our over budget with what looks like a VERY poor lightweight squad.

This season is a write off; we will continue to float around just below mid table. No relegation worries and no promotion hopes. Any point in turning up? Probably not, Save your money folks.

If that was offered at the start of the season, most people would have taken it. Especially after what happened in the last couple of years.

you bore me

perhaps he said this after discussions with the then manager and now there is a new manager he has decided to let them manage how they see fit, you tiresome individual

I think AB has started to favour the word injury, because its a fact! yes we were very very poor, but had hacket stayed on we,d have taken a point. And as regards Davids influence, anonymous, he certainly did,nt run the show, or influence the match anymore than Gutts or Harding would,ve, if they'd been fit. We are suffering one of the worst runs of injuries i've ever experienced, three full backs in as many matches! and that is the reason for the loans, and the reason for our inconsistency.

If mid table is the limit of our ambition this season, why would anyone with half a brain bother going to watch at all this season?  Unfortunately our last few seasons have been typified by pre-Christmas dips in form that have seen us end up in a real relegation dogfight and I fear we're about to embark upon another poor run of form.

It's a phenomena known in hot air ballooning as 'false lift'. We seem to suffer from it big time and unless we arrest this we are going to hit the ground with an almighty thump...... By 5.00 pm next Saturday we can asses the situation but as always, a calm heads are needed.

The trouble is Steve you are in a minority in compared to the hundreds who did go.

Nut - if you think Wilson put in any effort then I missed it. For the second half I was in Zombieland - from what I can remember only Langmead and LNichols "efforts". As for Bayo he must have had the "sleeping sickness". What annoys me that we had the same shambles as at Bristol Rovers - perhaps we need the unmovable oil tanker to organise/galvanise us (again). Apologies to our "Terry".

I left before the end so didn't get to see him apparently giving up on chasing back after losing the ball for their fourth goal, but in the part of the game I did see he was trying to do the work of about 3 or 4 people on his own, covering plenty of ground and looking genuinely annoyed at what was going on.

Exactly, and that's the reason why I haven't been once this season. Now I don't mean to sound smug, but after being a season ticket holder for 16 out of the last 26 seasons, I've just lost my love for my club. There are so many more things that I enjoy doing on a Saturday afternoon these days. Watching the Cobblers is a dismal experience and I'm better staying away.

I'll second that emotion!

So the games at Burton, D&R and Exeter etc  plus MK and Col U were a dismal experience  :o . You have a pretty dismal view point as well. Tell me what are the more enjoyable things you do on a Sat PM. Dont include shopping,the Saints , baby sitting, Grandchildren , household DIY or watching the Cobbs on a wet Friday evening. Get a life Matey ???

God another armchair moralistic prick

With respect, why are you on here then?

without any respect - why are you ???

ps IwishIwasafly - no need to be respectfully to this numpty

I was brout up propper like  :P

I wonder if Alistair Slowe can play at right back? At least they would have to get past his massive head!

I won't be giving you the satisfaction of a response. Just reading the misery on this forum justifies my decision  ;)

Why are you on this site - its one long winge from you. It would help if you went to a game first. But no , you wait for a numpty name "pirdpoo" and support his comments. What a prick you are

Because I'd rather read a fans perspective on our games, rather than the drivel afforded to us by the Chronic or the club website. I still have an interest in our results, but have no desire to be returning to Sixfields in the near future. Much respect for those of you who can stick hack it, but me, I'm done.

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Did Jimmy Saville fiddle with you too Everbrite?, cos you aren't quite right are you?!  ;)

I see. So you do still care but watching us play in the flesh so to speak is monkeying around with your noodle.

By the way I am an expert at monkeying around with peoples noodles so it would be best if you don't come round my place for cheese and crackers. ;D

ps: would you consider watching from the top of the hill?

Why cant you stick to your promises "I won't be giving you the satisfaction of a response"  - go on give us all a treat.

Cant comment on yr obscenity suggestions but you may get a formal response from elsewhere.

Good luck Matey ::)

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