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1  The Hotel End / Other Football & Sport / Re: Ivan Toney on: March 26, 2024, 23:51:05 pm
Is he the first Northampton born player to score for England ? Anyway, well done Ivan


First to score at a senior level born in Northampton
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 14, 2024, 17:52:14 pm


Indeed and the start of of question 11 suggested a degree of conscious/unconscious bias by the survey's authors

The newly-completed East Stand will likely be 'hemmed in' by a fenced off private development, with limited parking and a service road immediately behind the back of the stand.

They just can't help themselves...
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Supporters Advisory Board on: March 08, 2024, 16:51:52 pm
I could do with a bit of help from you all on what you believe is the best way for us to address that

Maybe an open form where people can freely submit what is important to them, and then collate those into popular topics?

You'll see common topics and won't end up in long winded discussions about the small stuff.

If you need a hand setting something like that up just give me a shout, happy to help.
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The Nene Derby part 2 05.03.24 on: March 05, 2024, 19:40:48 pm
Terrible half, let’s hope we come out with some fire and grab one back early to make it interesting at least!
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The Nene Derby part 2 05.03.24 on: March 05, 2024, 14:10:48 pm
I'm always so nervous going into these games, desperate for us to win.
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 05, 2024, 13:54:22 pm
I personally don't see a long wrong in the Whatsapp exchange. A couple of egos at work IMO.
I can only imagine the absolute shock and horror at some of the comms during the Covid enquiry.

Probably should have added a bit more context really in heinsight.

But my first issue was given all that had gone before, this was the very first communication John had with any of the new board members, immediately negative.

Secondly it was that John was trying to assert his "authority" and direct the conversation in the group chat - He's not a board member, I don't think an advisor should be guiding the conversation.

That continued, constant negativity and jibes at the ownership, prompting and stirring negativity among the others.

I shared it because Derek continued to make his claim that the reason for various board members wanting to discuss (not get rid, as he always refers to it as), just discuss was because we were told to by the owners - which it wasn't, it was because he was clearly having far more involvement and influence than an advisor should have, which became clearer and clearer.
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 04, 2024, 17:19:12 pm
It was me.

All I could think when I saw this was "I'm Spartacus"
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 04, 2024, 17:09:47 pm
LOL your interpretation of a lie is certainly different to mine.  Lie is the new buzzword taken straight from the KT playbook

I have no idea who was directly involved with NMT because there was no information on the website, no ownership whatsoever and no petition ever presented but you claim to be the one setting it and it had it's ISP etc in USA I believe.

Please let me, where were you in 2015 ?  You know at the time when we were shaking buckets cos I certainly didn't see or hear of you then.

Again I have no idea how many games you have been to, you won't tell me so how is it a lie when I am asking a question LOL.  so you are lying when you say I know full well

What you mean its not private or personal?  why because it was sent to the board of the Trust ?  wtf?Huh???  OMG 

I will stop there and say no more to you


Pretty please let the last bit be a promise, half of the stuff i've posted after I left the board wouldn't have been posted if you'd just kept your gob shut and stopped trying to drag me into the conversaiton. So please.

You know with absolute certainty that it wasn't just me, your own posts even indicate that, and there was multiple people from it on the board - you HONESTLY question why people don't trust you.

Right here on this message board Derek, you asked me to demonstrate (with photo evidence) my attendance to games, you responded saying it wasn't true - everyone at the time, ridiculed you for the pressure you put on to try and understand how many games....and yet here we are, again. So yes, Lie was accurate, you know, as with everything else - you just say it's not true and live in your own little world of hatred.

Where was I? at games mate, putting money in those buckets...not trying to get credit for doing so for the rest of eternity.

Notice how I've not asked you how many games you've been to recently? we all know, it'd be an easy win - but it's irrelevant.

Now, i'll take you up on that last bit please.

Oh and just for the record, a lie is when you say something that is contradictory to the information you know.
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 04, 2024, 16:56:26 pm
All I will say Tom is that I hope none of your business partners, customers, family or friends read this thread and see that, when it suits you, you are happy to release into the public domain, private conversations over whatapps and email

with the sole justification that we are not nice to everyone

Yet no investigation or questions from you regarding the Chinese money or the 7 companies that our owner was involved with at board level that folded owed around £30m - Thats ok for some reason.

Some on here might disagree (afterall if I say it Monday they will call me a liar because someone on the planet it is Sunday or Tuesday)

But you posting these private, confidential exchanges, says an awful lot more about you than it does about me or John


The justification is you keep relentlessly lieing & you just don't like that people respond with real, tangible evidence rather than just a blubber of words.

Give it a rest.
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 04, 2024, 15:28:02 pm
Just to clarify re geographical location

The difference is that one supporter actively set-up a petition to get rid of hardworking, lifetime Cobblers supporters from the Trust board

 

We're off to a flyer, lie number 1 - You know full well it was not just me, yet keep saying it because you think it helps you - it doesnt.

That supporter does not live in the Country and has been to Sixfields less than 3 times in 9 years

And right away we have lie number 2, you again know full well that I have been to more than 3 games in 9 years...also this is utterly irrelevant to if someone has an opinion or not, just to clarify AGAIN, YOU do not get to decide what being a fan involves.

That same supporter has since posted private and personal emails and correspondence onto social media platforms and prior to that we included in a letter from KT to the Trust. (The FSA were not included in my email, it just went to the Trust board)

Tada, lie number 3 - going strong! - Nothing was private or personal, and they were circulated to many people. I did release them on here, when you continued to....Lie about it and drag me into the conversation.
If you look at his social media there is very little Cobblers stuff on there prior to notmytrust and very little after he resigned from the Trust board

He has appeared at just the time KT needed someone to attack the Trust, the latest now is that we approach the land deal being signed and eyes will be on the owners to complete the stand and he knows that the Trust will be watching very very closely.

so yes I question his motives especially when he has a very busy business to run and lives 4000 miles away.


There couldn't possibly any other reason for me to appear could there, not a single other reason....like I dunno a meeting where a laughable amount of people turned up further demonstrating what a bloody mess you lot have made of the trust.

blah blah blah ....

When he joined the board he first and only action was to try and vastly reduce any input from JM, exactly the same from the other two NMT who joined the board.
Yet another lie - First action was to try and smooth over previous issues and make a fresh start - which JM tried to curb, can't have people getting along now can we.
Yes of course JM is old school and doesn't confirm to modern day language and behaviours - but he has raised questions and sought out evidence of our owners

blah blah blah

So again is it a coincidence that NMT starts up just when KT really really really wanted to destroy the Trust / JM and a coincidence that the 3 members all set their sights on JM

Or, hear me out - is it a coincidence that NMT (glad your acknowledging here that it wasn't just me, as you said it was in your very first line) when the trust board crossed the line from annoying group of angry men being mean to fans, to actually damaging the clubs progress.

Again the issue for me is that the Trust over all of it's 30 years has been crying out for fans to get involved, for more volunteers, for more support etc etc, which always falls on deaf ears

so anyone is welcome and accepted, ANYONE. Yes we don't all agree, far from it, we all have different ideas
Another Lie, you missed the part where you will pretend to play nice until anyone disagrees with you, at which point, as demonstrated in the email in my signature you revert to your normal behavior.

But the only real focus was to get rid of JM, stop posting (which myself and JM did for quite while - at the request of NMT and the club - only for the club to continue to use every trick and every person possible to discreet the Trust - But again KT/DB have 10 million reasons to act the way they do, the Trust have 1)

And we finish off with another lie - everyone can read my replies and i quite clearly did not try and get rid of JM, in fact the very opposite, as I said before, and can prove, my focus was to rebuild relationships including with people like yourself, who at this point quite franky don't deserve the time of day from any supporter of this club, when John constantly fed everyone with negativity and tried to guide the direction of the trust, I backed up another board members request for a meeting without him to discuss his role.

Oh and FYI, the club has made it pretty clear they couldn't care less about you or the rest of the board, or JM at this point....in the letter that you don't want your members to see.

so again I question why would someone go to so much time and trouble ?  what is in it for them?  

What's in it for me, genuinely caring about my club that's what...you should try it.

And before you lie about it some more, let's have some highlights on why the trust was unhappy with John shal we.

While everyone else was trying to mend wounds from the previous back and forward before the AGM, Johns first message into the "Official NTST Board" whatsapp group was this:



No niceties, no friendlynes, straight into "Hey guys look what other clubs are doing", followed by being generally miserable as always:



And then trying to stamp his authority on what he clearly feels is a position of power:



Just an "Advisor" though.

This is just to demonstrate the tone, but won't take a genius to guess how it descended into constant negativity and trying to drive agenda.

Maybe when i get a few minutes to put it all in a readable format i'll just put it all out there for everyone.

11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 03, 2024, 22:44:02 pm
Derek saying this IT thing with the club has never been disclosed up until the last few days, I must be reading it wrong?

He’s saying I “worked for the club”
I said I didn’t
he asked me to clarify my “dealings”
I clarified, and said it was all disclosed
He said I didn’t, tries to turn it into something it’s not.
I proved that I did, even publicly.

Usual stuff mate, he lies and hopes it sticks. No new information.
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 03, 2024, 21:22:38 pm
It's like conversing with a child...  Smiley

The funny thing is that if he engaged just a teeny tiny piece of his brain, he'd realise that the only reason he knows about "my dealings" is because I disclosed them very publicly lol, which he then latched onto, and still is - despite everyone pointing out that it's a flawed argument.

It's like saying Zuckerberg has worked for the club because the club uses Instagram  Grin
13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 03, 2024, 20:44:44 pm
Tom, I have communicated with Andy, the rest of the board and JM and NOBODY recalls you mentioning that you had any dealings with NTFC now or previously

They remember you saying you could help with digital marketing, Social Media, website etc as you are in the business but that obviously never materialised.

Also one other question.... how did parts of my personal email reply to you, end up in a rant letter from Kelvin Thomas.

Funny That !


You really do just want to keep digging a nice big hole don't you Derek?

I assume you mean the "personal" reply that was sent to me, and the entire board and the FSA? Suggested you take a closer look at who you're sending your "personal" emails to. I'll make it easy for you though, it's in my signature on here ;-)

As for disclosing, my "dealings" - I will continue to correct you on this so you may as well stop, because you've been corrected by myself and others, but keep referring to it as that to try and manipulate

"It was more disclosure to you and the board, I think I’m required to do that for any “conflict” - long story short, I founded Direct.me which the club uses on its social channels, along with approx 1million other registered users and about 20million visitors a month, the club uses it for free as do the other users - they don’t use any of our monetisation options. Aside from that I do a fair bit of hospitality & the occasional sponsorship for players and matches and such."

"Just wanted to clarify so we could put an end to the “stop listening to someone who works for the club” silliness from a couple of people"

From Whatsapp to Andy, I guess you even lie to each other, hardly surprising I guess.

And also right here on this forum, which you replied to:

"I’ve run several businesses both in the UK and USA mainly in the tech world, and full disclosure the club even uses one of those products at arms length, which is a web-based platform that 500,000 other people use too, but what can I say, it gives me a real kick to see the club I’ve supported since a boy using something I’ve built so I reached out and showed them what we do.

I’ve sponsored various things across multiple ownerships and enjoyed many matches in various levels of hospitality home and away - so yes, I do know and have known some people at the club at different levels, but rest assured no current staff or owners are behind this, which is one of the other reasons I’m posting this. “ - October 12th

“I'm not one person, I've also come forward, and I didn't "do work for the club" but that's the bit they pick out, instead of saying it's concerning that a group of fans felt the need to do this - these people are just manipulative.” - October 13th 2022

I won't bother going into it further, just demonstrates that you're full of it doesn't it? But it was in fact clarified to everyone, and also as I said I believe on here also....where you were again ridiculed for the ridiculous attempt at turning it into something it's not.

And yes, my extremely helpful social media skills and resources are another thing you and your band of grumpy blokes have pushed away because of your utter garbage behavior.

Just stop. You really need to know when to stop.
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 02, 2024, 21:00:03 pm
It really is something how low the world's first Supporters Trust has fallen. The sad part is it is all self inflicted and they just can't see it.
 
•              Relationship with the club broken
•              Relationship with the fanbase broken
•              Relationship with their own travel club broken
•              Relationship with the Council broken
•              Relationship with Goodwill Solutions broken
•              Relationship with the Cilldara broken
 
And it will all be everyone else's fault.
 
They just cannot conduct themselves in a civil manner. Remember that much trumpeted social media policy now displayed on their website?
 
Here are just a couple of takes from it:
 
•              Directors should be an ambassador for the Trust. Comments made on social media should reflect the Trust’s values and be consistent with its strategies and policies, especially in respect of strategies and policies endorsed by Trust members,
 
•              Facts should be checked before posting, especially when responding to hostile or aggressive posts or those who challenge the decisions, actions or inactions of the board.
 
•              Differences of opinion should be dealt with respectfully.
 
Compare this with any number of Derek's posts recently. His posts have a complete disregard for the policy. The policy is not worth the paper it is written on.
 
Once Derek called a well respected supporter, who gives up his time as a volunteer to host a messageboard, a p**** last night, that should have been it. He should have been asked to resign there and then. No questions asked. Whatever Derek's perceived right in his own mind to say that, it was unacceptable. He has to go.
 
He won't and no action will be taken. Why? Because to remove Derek takes them under the required number of directors and they are finished. So Derek and everyone else on the board has licence to act as they please, with complete disregard for any rules, regulations, policies, discipline and general good standards because they can't replace them. They just limp on. (see the AGM taking place with less than the minimum number of members present required. The meeting was invalid but the Trust don't care because they are powerless to do anything, likewise see Ian Atkins being co-opted back on despite attending a grand total of zero board meetings. Attendance at games seems to be crucial for Derek, not so much Trust directors attending their own board meetings it seems. Ever.) You couldn't make this farce up.
 
Anyway back to Derek's latest breach of the social media policy. 'We didn't see it', will be the defence. We don't look at the Hotel End. Of course not, but the Trust board were quick enough to threaten legal action against the volunteer supporter running this board a few weeks ago when a letter appeared on here. They saw that. But if it is one of their representatives calling a fellow supporter a p****, move on, nothing to see here.
 
No wonder the club/FAB want nothing to do with the Trust. I don't blame them for a moment. I wouldn't want them near anything our club does either. They are not ambassadors for the club. They do not represent Northampton Town supporters.
 
All of this of course, comes after 4 (FOUR) people turned up at the Trust AGM, and 25% of that number was everyone's favourite legal advisor.
 
And this comes barely 24 hours after the Trust wrote a public, passive/aggressive response to the Council leader, that they were clearly very proud of (it wouldn't have been published otherwise) saying, "Can we suggest arranging a meeting face to face in the coming weeks? - we can then also touch on the role of member liaison as in future we would certainly welcome working with a council representative who sits at the table without clear vested interests and, irrespective of his or her own views, has the capability to fairly and accurately represent the Trust’s position."
 
So, as long as you agree with us, do as we tell you, don't question us, and don't mind being called a p**** on a public messageboard, all while a board member regularly questions the integrity of the Council in this process on a public forum, despite that integrity passing the test of a Judicial Review, we'll welcome you in.
 
What an invitation!  I'm sure there are a queue of Councillors wanting to jump on board with an organisation that has such an upstanding reputation.
 
It is very sad but things won't change until the current board leave.
 
Join us and change us is the cry. 5 board members joined last year. All 5 resigned. What does that say? It must by the club's fault. It must be the Council's fault. It must be Nigel's fault. Maybe now it's Natwest's fault. If the messages they post in public are anything to go by, lord knows what sort of things they say and share in private meetings. It is hardly a welcoming environment.
 
Supporters are not silly. They know if their club is heading the right way and being looked after. They also know when the Trust are out of line. They have voted with their feet. They turn up to games at Sixfields in record numbers (that's how you judge the health of a club, not how many attend a club AGM which is for shareholders only, that's not its main function) while the Trust AGM (which is the Trust's most high profile event of the year) is attended by a number that could fit in one taxi. Consider that for a moment. From over 600 at the Exeter Rooms to four at the Obelisk Centre. It is beyond belief.

This is from the Trust's own website. "We commit to being democratic, open, inclusive and accountable to the membership." Really? You do anything but. You have killed what should be a great organisation. It should not a fan club but a critical friend acting with honesty, integrity and accountability. The current Trust board do none of this.
 
Go now, in fact, you should have gone years ago. You are not fit for office. Let the roles lay dormant and allow others to come in and resurrect the Supporters Trust without your illogical, half baked, aggressive stance hanging over the scene. They won't step forward with you on the scene, and quite frankly, no one could blame anyone for not doing so.

I’m sure when Derek/John/trust board via Derek get round to responding they’ll just point out that you have less than 1million posts on here so you must work for the club, but I think this is one of the best posts that have been made about the trust on here.

15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Charlton Sat 2nd March. on: March 02, 2024, 15:58:42 pm
Good point.
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 02, 2024, 14:51:01 pm
Here's it what you wrote:

 “Still you ok with it as it means I react and you get a bump in your ad revenue. !!”.

You know this is not true. You apologised before to me in person for saying it. Would you like to stop asking me for an apology. And actually say sorry yourself.   

He does that, apologies then does the exact same thing again.

Did it with me, said sorry for his behavior on here around distance, number of games etc....then well, read above.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Charlton Sat 2nd March. on: March 02, 2024, 14:50:03 pm
Could be worse than going in 0-1 down, regroup and come out fighting and we've still got time.
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 02, 2024, 00:30:27 am
Yeah of course it was Tom, because before that you were such an active member of the NTFC fan community, constantly posting on SM, on this platform etc etc .

You appeared at an opportune moment, with a connection with the owners, just at a time when they wanted to control the Trust, just a pure coincidence

and then funny enough, your prime focus was on the removal of JM, just what KT was wanting, just another coincidence

when you failed with that, like you failed with the NOTmyTrust bid to get control of the Trust, at a time when KT was demanding to know if we had £3m in our bank account, it all failed, so off you went.

Again the Trust is not a supporters club, it is set-up to watch over the club, remember the famous quote from the guy who set it up, re two- bit conmen


We've established there is no "connection with the owners", can you stop lying for like a millisecond? It'll really help your credibility.

We adding that to the Derek Fan Score that we must all meet? Social media minimum posting requirements? got it. I cropped up and spoke at a time that I wanted to speak....what a wild situation.

I know nothing about what KT was wanting in regards to JM, I know that his involvement that I saw was inappropriate, and then I saw the behavior (see signature for email chain) in response to that being questioned, and again anyone can read the thread in my signature demonstrating how it was handled professionally, calmly and approached correctly by those questioning it - but responded to like a bull in a china shop by yourself.  

I didn't fail...I gave up, I realised my time was entirely wasted trying to work with people like you - two very different things - what is left of the trust wasn't worth trying to salvage while you cling onto what you perceve as a position of power, you lot have destroyed it.

As has been said by many, frequently - you're right, nobody has ever said you're not - it's not a supporters club, but it's not a vessel for a vendetta of a few blokes getting together to complain about anything they can.

You don't represent any of us, you don't represent your own members, you represent insignificance at this point.
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 02, 2024, 00:02:08 am
perhaps its because I live in Northampton and don't want a load of warehouses dumped into our leisure area and that we need better leisure and dining facilities etc

so I am trying to protect Northampton and NTFC and make it a better place

but then you have someone from the other side of the world actively setting up websites and encouraging people to remove those who are trying to protect their club and who are asking questions.

so would it be ok for me to actively campaign against say a local group or activity that Tom supports, trying to encourage people to close it down, to affect how it runs and to make false allegations and assumptions about the people involved?

would that be ok, even though it doesn't really affect me as I live 4000 miles away?

I set up (with others, as you know, but why focus on facts - you prefer to twist) to remove you & your little gang from the trust, because you can't control how you behave (as you've done again today), and you're not acting on behalf of anyone other than yourselves. As always "false allegations" but never specify do you.

It was entirely based on the behavior you continue to display.

You do not get to decide if or how much i, or anyone else cares about this club or not, you quite simply....do not. You also do not get to dictate how much anything relating to the club effects anyone else.

The very fact that you think you do shows you are entirely incapable of fulfilling your role.

Anyway, entirley bored of you so I'm gonna grab a beer and go sit in the pool I paid for with all the money I made from the club paying me to use my free service.
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 01, 2024, 23:04:03 pm
Ok so tell us all how many games have you been to at sixfields since the owners arrived.  simple enough question

I don't know how many games you have been to, that is why I am asking you to confirm.

Ok so you are saying its not zero, we are getting somewhere, is it one?



We've done this before Derek, this is why the opinion of you here is so low. I'm not answering your stupid question, but the simple answers is nobody else is keeping score! it's not a competition. I'm certainy not going to sit here and look at the dates and times of every game for the last 8 years and work out which ones I was and wasn't at, for the sake of some angry bloke on the internet.

Seriously, why do you keep going down these silly irrelevent rabbit holes? Some people on here HAVE been to zero games in the last 8 years, so what? They're still fans, you are no better than them, notice how nobody is asking you how many you've been to? nobody. cares.

You are no better than anyone else, you have no more say than anyone else and you absolutely don't get to decide who is a fan, or who gets a say.

Put the laptop down and go to bed, you're just making yourself look worse with each post you make.
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