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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: An opinion based on going to a game not just the last one at ice station zebra on: December 11, 2017, 17:13:32 pm
PHEW!!

And may I ask when can we expect an update on the Trust's views on the present redevelopment stagnation following its meetings with KT and NBC?
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: An opinion based on going to a game not just the last one at ice station zebra on: December 11, 2017, 16:50:52 pm
Agree with GPC. I am one of those who come under attack for not accepting all that KT throws at us occasionally and increasingly occasionally.  I have also been critical from time to time of the silence from the Trust.  That always sparks a strong reaction.  I don't agree with all that Beds writes by any means but he is right when he says about NTFC's perennial struggles both on the pitch and off it that is doesn't have to be like this.  People have short memories when it comes to our owners. Not so long ago we had on this site a large number of the "In Dave we trust" brigade.  Incredible when you think about it.  Now when some perfectly reasonable questions are asked of KT, his plans for the club, about the Chinese etc., JFH etc the criticism rains down on those who have the audacity to even raise such questions.  Small wonder that some have decided to go and play elsewhere.
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 18:24:04 pm
I thought this site was for different opinions. Apparently not allowed if you don't agree with the yes man Everbrite.

PS no need to highlight words in red to make a point. To do so adds nothing to your views to which, by the way, you are welcome.
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 14:20:40 pm
Everbrite, I think it might be a good start if you read and understood what I wrote.  Self-opinionated conjecture?  No conjecture at all in what I posted, only facts.
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 12:23:24 pm
So, all is fine with the club under the stewardship of KT and the largely anonymous, mute Chinese (even allowing for language difficulties there are translators available) who actually control the club through NTFC Ventures?  Do we know where the club is going other than seemingly back to L2?  Do we know when the East Stand is going to be completed?  Do we have complete confidence that JFH is the man to steer us to safety and onwards & upwards?  Terrific if you have this knowledge or have confidence in them individually or as a group.  I do not because (a) the owners tell us nothing and (b) the teams's performances are plainly gutless and awful.
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 12:09:05 pm
So we shouldn't be critical of the club when it deserves criticism and just accept the rubbish that has been served up for the past 1.5 seasons?  Rubbish, Everbrite. I am a football supporter not a yes man.

And don't I will be there next Saturday urging the side to beat the opposition as I have been at every home match since I was a boy.
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 11:34:36 am
I would ask Graham Carr to nominate 2-3 names. He has the in depth knowledge that few have.
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 11:06:55 am
It depends what is written into JFH's contract and that we will never know.  I don't think there will be a change but relegation may be more expensive short and long term. 
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 10:39:07 am
Yes I would.  Personally, I have no confidence JFH has the managerial know-how to turn this mess around. I think it is getting visibly worse.  I don't think KT will act and I accept the majority will say give him the January transfer window to build his own side.  When did we last hear that?
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 10:30:15 am
I agree that staying in this division has to be the priority but ignoring what is going on behind the scenes is sticking your head in the sand.  After all we are trying to attract players to the club. Many agents are well informed about clubs.
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 10, 2017, 10:01:11 am
I agree with the sentiments expressed by Beds but I'm not sure that he is right about our owners wanting to making a profit for their own benefit from NBC owned land.  KT denied this on his recent Facebook session. So it has to be a matter of record. As always, we will see.

The non-progress of the redevelopment remains a dark shadow over the club. There is also the question of KT's commitment to the club and the reality behind the Chinese who remain silent partners but in effect own control NTFC. Not a good situation and all unsettling. 

In addition to the many non-footballing issues we are faced with a major crisis on the playing side.  It must be about 20 games since JFH's arrival and as the weeks go past it must be apparent to all that we are getting worse and that is saying something after the mess JED and Page before him contrived to make.  But 20 games on is long enough to turn the side into a competitive unit, we are seeing the opposite and we are sliding towards L2 at an increasing rate.  The buck stops with KT who appoints the manager and ultimately JFH. 
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 19:11:53 pm
Martin Smith said, amongst other things, that he saw a number of our players going through the motions and not putting in the effort required.  Damning.
13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 19:00:19 pm
For what it's worth I thought Calderwood was a good manager. KT doesn't know how to appoint the right man. 3 strikes and out?!
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 18:41:09 pm
Yes to Glastonbury's and Old Stratford's comments. Would you let JFH spend your money in January based on what he has done to date? If the answer is no then he has to go.
15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 17:45:24 pm
Everbrite, it's not about the usual negatives, as you put it, but about survival in this division.  JFH has been our manager for several months now and all I can say is that the situation is getting worse. I don't enjoy being critical of him but there is not a glimpse of this side improving and as Martin Smith said on the radio there is a lack of effort on the pitch with too many players were going through the motions.  That has to be completely unacceptable and the buck must stop with the manager. JFH should go and immediately. He will take us down to L2 and then goodness only knows where this club goes. Thomas has made his money from the Chinese and is sitting pretty. We are not.
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 17:12:00 pm
I have no idea what is written into JFH's contract but unless the club owners are idiots you would expect some performance levels to be included entitling the club to terminate if the minimum levels are not reached. We have to face the reality that JFH is not up to the task and to let him spend in January is high risk.  Graham Carr needs to get himself involved and have a say in this latest crisis.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 16:57:40 pm
I think after the latest shambles the main question is whether JFH should be here and allowed to spend whatever transfer funds are available.
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 16:47:49 pm
And in many respects Beds is right about the owners despite the severe criticism he has had from those that think they know better.
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 16:46:02 pm
Thomas will do nothing. It's a shambles and has been for weeks even months. 
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Oldham (a) 9th Dec on: December 09, 2017, 16:01:24 pm
I have been thinking for some weeks that JFH is not the manager we need.  It is getting worse week by week. That's 3 managers appointed by Thomas. Doing well?
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