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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake 2021 on: April 07, 2021, 10:07:20 am
yes please
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Oxford United (h) 23/03/2021 on: March 24, 2021, 11:15:59 am
Rose
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21 on: February 24, 2021, 09:38:53 am
Quite staggering that the player with the best minutes per goal ratio for us in the league this season is Chris Lines!! Second to him is Matt Warburton.

Doesn't say much about the rest of them does it?

I think that says more about the relevance of sample sizes in statistics to be fair
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Home against the Dale on Tuesday night 23.02.21 on: February 24, 2021, 09:37:08 am
Curle managed to scrape 24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 12....both comfortably taking us towards the drop.
Something has to change because if it doesn't before the end of the season, we go down and keep Brady then they won't need to worry about opening the ground again.
Can't see KT opening his cheque book again for anyone who isn't capable of keeping this team in league one. It's almost as though people are suggesting that Curle was over performing with the players he'd assembled if they are that bad! If the climate was different I'm sure Brady would have gone already.
The biggest straw to cling to is that we muster a win, it massively boosts confidence and we go on a mini run.

Its amazing to me how people will manipulate statistics to prove a pre-determined point or make them look better/worse. You can't switch between points and games when trying to compare performance. it should be:

24 points from 26 games....Brady 2 from 4 games
or
24 points from 78 Points....Brady 2 from 12 points
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: MK Dons (a) 20/02/2021 on: February 22, 2021, 11:09:16 am
Marshall
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: New Manager on: February 22, 2021, 09:51:57 am
JB needs a win this week - we all accept that .
Just remember where we have come from in a week .
We were probably the worst team in the league, getting out played by our peers around us and failing to even register shots in games .
On top of that , we played the worst football you can wish to imagine .
In a single week , we have become a team that competes with good footballing teams and look like we belong in division 1 .
We have also scored more goals and created more chances than any time in the last season or more .
Players are playing with confidence and even the pitch is on the mend .
That is in a week .
i desperately want them to get a result tomorrow because they damn well deserve it

This sums up my feelings perfectly.
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Burton Albion (h) 13/02/2021 on: February 15, 2021, 09:45:33 am
kioso
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Accrington Stanley (a) 06/02/2021 on: February 08, 2021, 08:53:47 am
kioso
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Lincoln City (a) 23/01/2021 on: January 25, 2021, 10:18:21 am
McWilliams
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: MK Dons (h) 12/01/2021 on: January 14, 2021, 08:34:38 am
McWilliams
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Sunderland (h) 02/01/2021 on: January 05, 2021, 15:24:14 pm
McWilliams
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 10, 2020, 12:33:36 pm
What you want is a very specific answer, to a very challenging question. I have stated (as someone who has taught infection control in healthcare for years.) that I personally believe the spacing and procedures followed on the whole, afforded the best chance to reduce risk.

I would suggest to anyone that wants an absolutely guarantee they won’t catch COVD at the football........ STAY AWAY. That will guarantee the 100% protection you might be craving for. Otherwise, join me at the next match you are invited to. In a stadium, where personally I believe THE CLUB did the best they could.

I think we are mostly in agreement to be fair. I agree that the measures taken will reduce risk compared to not having them in place and hosting matches in a full stadium. The question then comes down to whether or not you deem the remaining risk level to be acceptable.

I have levelled no criticism at the club, and agree with you that they are doing all they can . But for me, this is just one year out of many, i have written it off, it's as simple as that. We are now in the process of a vaccine rollout and it simply isn't essential that i attend football matches in person, or go on holiday, or go to the pub right now. I will sacrifice those things in the short term, so that i may do them all again for many more years to come, post vaccine.

13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 16:45:44 pm
One final question mate, again no offence intended, best wishes mate, but have you ever worked for the BBC? And that will my final word on the matter.

So when i confirm that i have not commuted anywhere since march and have not been on a bus or train since then, nor would i unless it necessary, you somehow try to twist that into me being perfectly happy to travel by train or bus and equate it to watching a football match in a stadium, thus making me some kind of hypocrite.

When i kindly point out that watching a game of football in a stadium is not a necessity and does not equate to being willing to use a bus IF it was necessary, you come back with some weird question about the BBC.

Interesting...
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 16:26:06 pm
So you are prepared to go on a bus or train when necessary, but not a stadium. With 2000 people all sitting apart. No offence intended mate, just making an observation.

I would go to a stadium if it was necessary. But it's not is it!
15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 16:15:42 pm
Rebel, do you much travelling in the course of your employment? Do you think that it is safe?
And for what its worth, the only ground that I have ever been to, with a roof is in Cardiff. And it was open. And just stand away from anybody at the bus stop. You have got more chance from catching it from somebody on the bus. Or on the train.

I used to travel abroad every month or so with work. Commuted to an office the rest of the time. I have been working from home since March, all business related travel has stopped. Haven't and wouldn't travel on Bus or train unless it was necessary.

The west stand has closed sides, back and roof. The stand itself his more enclosed than not, particularly if you stand at the back of it. Turnstiles, staircases and under the stand are all indoors, as are toilets.
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 15:28:22 pm
Not taken as antagonistic - think challenge on these things is very healthy. Just to caveat what follows - I am not an expert on this stuff, but I have friends who are and have done an awful lot of reading on the subject.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-how-is-it-transmitted

A couple of links above from the WHO are quite useful. Long story short, and I don't mean to sound at all patronising, the virus doesn't just jump from one person to another. It is expelled into the air by vigorous exhalation (cough, sneeze, shout, sing etc.).

The reason I say that briefly passing close to someone shouldn't affect your risk is that the chances of that person coughing, sneezing, shouting or singing in your face as you pass them is negligible. Even if they had a cough or sneeze coming, the vast majority of people would try to hold it in as you passed or failing that would cover their mouth and nose. All of this is more true now than ever before. Social distancing is about reducing your chances of spending a period of time within close proximity of an infected person. The longer you spend in their space the more likely they are to expel infectious droplets whilst you are near them and the more likely you are to breathe them in and become infected yourself.

As for outdoors being safer than indoors, that's not at all controversial. If you dig around on that WHO site you'll find lots of evidence to back it up as well as the logic.

Thanks for the links, appreciate it. I understand based on your explanation above what the target of social distancing as the government have rolled it out, is trying to achieve. I understand that short exposure, is better than longer term exposure, all logical. But what about going to a football match and having 15 instances of 1 minute exposure compared to sitting with 1 person for 15 minutes at a bus stop for example. it's still 15 minutes of exposure with potentially infected people isn't it?

Outdoors vs indoors is not controversial, but the studies on outdoors haven't tested for 2000 people in the space of a football stadium. Me leaving my house and going for walk on my street is not the same 2000 people descending on a venue that has a roof, and could be argued should not count as outdoors in the first place.

It saddens me, but i think i will be staying away from football grounds for a while yet.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 14:46:33 pm
Sorry, I know that I keep chipping in on this thread and likely boring those who bother reading my posts to tears!

Briefly passing within two metres of someone, or even half a metre, is not what social distancing is trying to address. Nor will it have any material impact on your chances of catching the virus.

Have you got source for that, that isn't the Government? I don't think we should be be relying purely on government guidelines when we all know that the rules can never be based on pure science and they are having to strike the balance between, public opinion, economy and health.

I think it was also you that made the argument that outdoors is safer because the particles don't sit in the air, they move, right? isn't that a worse scenario, when you have a stadium full of static seated people and airbourne particles moving around?

Just to be clear, the questions above are not meant to antagonise, they are genuine questions.
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Back in the grounds...... on: December 09, 2020, 14:23:55 pm
There was a few people who ignored some of the rules. But there’s was virtually zero chance of catching anything, due to the good spacing.

Good spacing, when seated.

How did they fill up the stadium? there are blocks of thirty seats between aisles so unless they loaded up the stadium from the centre of blocks outwards in a methodical fashion, how did it adhere to social distancing?
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Exeter City (a) 08/12/2020 on: December 09, 2020, 14:19:19 pm
Mitchell
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS: Fleetwood Town (h) 01/12/2020 on: December 02, 2020, 12:25:14 pm
Bolger
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