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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: NTFC FOR SALE on: Today at 12:39:55
From the way KT worded his statement, he seems to me to be suggesting some of NTFC's boundaries need to be extended so as to match the lease CDNL own. The council are so dumb they probably consider this a land grab by NTFC.
The alternative would be for CDNL to surrender some land, so as to match the NTFC lease, and I doubt KT and co are willing to hand land back to the council, especially after paying out to wrangle control of CDNL.

Of course, all of this would become a lot clearer if one or both sides just came out and put their full deck on the table.
In the absence of any definitive and gaureenteed benefits set in stone concrete metal and glass for the future benefits of for the Football club of Northampton and its public.. I believe the council have played a blinder.
If theres nothing in it for our club, why are we bothered about any financial benefits to be gained for speculators?
We need the supporters trust on the board that fights the clubs corner and that is objectionable.
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: John-Joe on his way! on: May 21, 2018, 14:14:23 pm
Probably end up going to Cambs utd for £40k which coincidentally is what we got for big George Riley from the same club back in 78.
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 21, 2018, 07:11:37 am
Not very good at this debating lark are you Beds? The problem with being fixated on an ideal is you are too quick to go on some narcissistic rant and completely miss some genuine points of debate. If itís advice youre giving out try this? If investing in the club is as ridiculous and as far fetched as I have suggested why did Kelvin Thomas get involved? After all he has clearly been successful in the past in his business dealings, and is apparently a competent businessman? Prior to his involvement he obviously couldnt care less about the club, so there wasnít the emotional angle seen in many cases. All logic would tell you that he should have run a mile at the suggestion of taking the club on? If every single financial argument for investing in the club is as hopelessly optimistic as I have detailed he would also surely struggle to sell it on in the current circumstances, so why exactly is he here?

Try that?
The club was picked up for peanuts and the free land/leases are worth millions.
You must've forgot that?
The club could be sold very easily.
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Pre-season friendlies. on: May 20, 2018, 21:20:02 pm
Royal Antwerp, they have a 2000 following to a specific pre season game and take over the place.
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 20, 2018, 01:43:31 am
Dropped Arsenal have you then?Huh??

da fug??
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 19, 2018, 20:45:28 pm
Wouldn't it be weird if all NTFC fans wanted the best for their club?

You are the Boris Johnson of this message board.
Coup de grace....
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 19, 2018, 20:26:20 pm
Agreed, and itís not an acceptance of mediocrity itís actual an appreciation of reality about the things in life you can control - the here and now is the only reality.
You need to understand not everyone can be a two club merchant, one big club in London that gives you the success you need and a little water treading never do well back water anomaly that fills in the gaps...
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 19, 2018, 18:40:22 pm
Good to see all your ranting on here has made a real difference mate. Proud.
The tide is turning in favour of the football club of Northampton town.
You collaborators are a dying breed.
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 19, 2018, 15:31:35 pm
Let's merge with MK Dons.
typical ex Cardozaite reposte😂
Surley not backed the wrong horse again😚
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 19, 2018, 09:51:52 am
So, having a big modern ground doesnít guarantee success. Now it appears spending money on big salaries doesnít either, so what does guarantee success? Hopefully it should have dawned on people that the answer is nothing. You can improve your chances, but nothing offers a guarantee. So why watch football at all at our level, or any level for that matter? I mean no one is happy on here, and if you read the forums of the clubs where we aspire to be, they are doing as much moaning as we are. If you are in division one you want the Championship, those in the Championship want the Prem, those in the Prem want Europe and if you are a supporter of Chelsea you want the manager out because he has not won the effing lot? At the end of the day do you believe that a supporter of Chelsea felt a bigger sense of euphoria when they won the title than we did winning division 2 under Wilder or Carr, think about it? Donít get me wrong, it would be great to play against the Arsenalís and Unitedís week in and week out but I donít believe itís the Shang-ri-la everyone believes it to be, read the forums or listen to 606? In any event, itís sport, we are in the lap of the gods, accept it. Iím about to get shouted at again arenít I?
Try using the words long term, sustainable and steady growth within your posts and see how better things look.
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 19, 2018, 09:47:46 am
We could get the North and South expanded in line with the original plans via mini Bonds from Tifosy.

However, is it worth building on land the club doesn't own?

Again, I think there needs to be a "bigger picture" look  at the land around Sixfields. A Cardozaesque land deal of the area around Sixfields with the payoff being that crummy East Stand being finished will doubtful ever be a good enough deal for the club or the town.

We should have at least gone to the Saints with a plan to let them develop the Sixfields site (and let's face it they'd probably do a good job of it) with us having a better version of Sixfields in the deal or taking over Franklins Gardens.

As I've said elsewhere we should also be looking at other sites too. Sixfields always had a temporary feel and is its shelf life done with in terms of kicking the club on?

The outstanding questions need answering first, which are ,
Have the council given these land/leases over to outside investors on the agreement that they give our football  club a £4m injection from the  subsequent windfall.
I can believe they would just hand it over unconditiomally free gratis?

If so, who decides what  when and where, as if its not handed over to a group that only has our clubs interest at heart, we cant honestly expect anything more than a token gesture dressed up as £4m.

If these questions are answered in the football clubs favour, you have a very decent 12000 capacity staduim with 12 corperate boxes and large supporters bar / functiin room right there.
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 17, 2018, 16:34:40 pm
It all about striking the right balance between growing the match day income, gate, sponsorship, corperate and food and beverages and merchandise by 50% then increasing the players budget accordingly with a hope the better quality of players yeild some hefty sell on fees... and then we would be truly up and running as a club that means business...but it would involve firstly  a visit to the redevelopment closer than ever thread😂😊
13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 17, 2018, 07:04:38 am
How have you only made 1700 posts when I've read this exact same one at least 3000 times?
Because the vast majority of 230,000 towns folk plus another 200,000 within 15 miles of Sixfields are disengaged from their local professional football club due its continuing lack of investment in the ground and infrastructure and the subsequent  lack of growth,  thats been going on for decades.
 Would you prefer if I talk about Kevin van Veens best moments in a cobblers shirt?
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 17, 2018, 06:49:20 am
...... and, after a few responses, the discussion descends down o the usual s***e.

Respect to those that have tried to make this thread something different, and to follow the original theme.  (You know who you are!)

Respect, really!

Moderators, please close this one down, as it has become a sub-thread of the "Re-Development" thread.

Taken over by the alt_cobblers.......
Its about comparing  budgets and for a team to have a competitive budget requires a solid support base and decent supporting facilities at a well run open and engaging club.. on topic, as you were oversees.
15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 16, 2018, 19:52:34 pm
But but but MK's catchment area. And no Prem sides. And a big stadium with empty seats so you can turn up and sit next to each other.

It's really not as simple as 'build it and they will come' as some people seem to think it is.
Are you suggesting like Kelvin we shouldn't have a state of the art 30,000 seater stadium?
We all know that and fully agree.. its just that a 7000 non league one that kelvin believes is good enough for us is complete nonsence.
A 12000 capacity one will allow us to grow the club and compete outside the 4th division.
That mysterious £4m would give us that and some but wasThomas and co going to spunk it all on a dozen boxes?
You have to laugh at how these London types hold our town in such a poor light.
I hope the council stay strong and give this lot what they believe we should get.. Nothing also.
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 16, 2018, 12:19:57 pm
Our local teams. Coventry and MK. Cambridge and Oxford. I'm bothering looking any further on Google maps  Grin Grin
Coventry have spent 30 years in the top flight during our continuing  4th division exodus but got suckered by s***e speculators. They will shake these time wasting clowns off soon and move forward.
MK are a new concept of football franchising but have in a very short time blaghed one of the most spectacular stadiums in England and won 2 promotions, one into the championship and a football league trophy, averaging gates pf over 10,000... A damned sight more than we have in 50 years of struggle.
Oxford again have played top flight football as recently as the 80s and won a major trophy, have a 12000 stsdium that will be expanded shortly as soon as they get control of their ground.
Cambridge United are a strange one, like us have shown little to no  ambition into building up their club.. and have also been left in the wilderness.. I'll give you Cambridge, like us should be doing shed loads  better.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 15, 2018, 18:08:02 pm
Contrary to popular belief, not everyone likes watching live football or even any football at all.  
Those in and around Northampton that do, either make an effort and come and watch the Cobblers or, if you stand on Castle Station on any match day, you can see the rest that travel (an hour is not far in this day and age) to watch top flight football or even a level equal to or above our own.  We do not have a monopoly on football watchers in Northampton (shire).
The same as Pompey don't expect me to pitch up at Fratton Park each week because I live almost on their doorstep.

None of us are happy to be at the bottom and I would suspect, we are all as sceptical about everything that goes on in and around our football club.
We don't have an entitlement to know the workings of the football club and in the absence of anything factual we can speculate all we want.  Some don't and some do but those that do increasingly pass this off as fact (attached to a cryptic Grim Reaper-ish message), when it could be nowhere near the truth, although it maybe.  Stick to facts or highlight that it is only your opinion and show your workings for coming to that opinion, so there isn't any confusion.

Those that question your workings or those that say nothing on this board are just as passionate as the 'noisy' minority.  It would be appreciated if you do not accuse those of us in the majority of anything else.
We just can't be ar5ed to waste time with (useless) speculation, as you clearly have too much of the former to enable you to conduct the latter.
Although it is something to read during this lull before the new fixture list/World Cup.
Until we're in a position in which to fully promote and sell our football club hard and far as having ambitions playing at an atmospheric all singing and dancing stadium  offering all the mod cons found every where else,  this will remain the mantra.
You can't expect fans to be attracted to our little stadium and forced to sit in the poorer over flow areas that dont usually sell out, with no decent facilities  then expect them to return the following week.. they wont.
Cardoza actually understood this but got consumed with greed , but sadly thomas doesn't or pretends he doesn't or just doesn't want to, we are yet to know what's his intentions are after near 3 years!
Our club needs a serious influx of good will from the folk of Northampton and surrounding areas that can only happen when they are made feel part of it and what it aims to achieve and thats not staying as an ambitionless and insignificant football club facilitating outside speculators to council land leases/ riches. Until something gives we will remain a joke club in our own back yard.

I hoping thomas finds new investors /owners during this summer that are better than the last lot.
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 15, 2018, 17:37:27 pm
Every fan will think their club is special and unique... Sadly, we're just another team that make up the numbers in the bottom 2 divisions of the footballing pyramid. I've pointed out before that their are several teams with similar populations far away from prem football in similar/worse positions than us.

Name them..
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 15, 2018, 17:22:34 pm
Still can't see what the problem is with adding tiers to the North and South as per the original design as and when we need them. Add safe standing and it'd be a tidy ground.
Thomas has made it clear we are unworthy of any such redev in order to build up our club.. after all he's a real football man say our more easily sold supporters, those who thought we would be playing on the racecourse for the want of of a piddling little tax bill.
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Budgets on: May 15, 2018, 07:42:39 am
No chance Barnets average wage was just £600 a week.
The high cost of living in that area where rent is £1500 a month for basic accomodation or house prices at 300,000 for a one bed shoe box would mean soup kitchens and food banks.
On the other hand KvV picking up 3 grand a week for the next 2 years for training 3 days a week is a nice gig.
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