"Hi mate, tell me, what makes you support NTFC?"
"Hiya, well tbh the team is fukcin  $hite, no heart or sense of pride. But we have a lovely 12000 capacity stadium which we only half fill each week, mostly with away supporters..."

Get a grip you tool....

we're not that good in a tiny 7000 seater non league ground that hasn't got any 21st century mod cons like corperate facilities that offers poor match day experience..
So having that 12k capacity stadium you speak of would give us a chance to finally compete with posh for those 30 goal a season players and compete at the right end of league 1 with many more than 6000 in attendance.
Hope that helps😉

Bang on.

Priority of these questions is all wrong.

1. Manager
2. Team investment
3. Anything else

I'd go back to the County Ground if it meant having a decent team to support

our current level of infrastructure doesn't allow us to build up and retain a team of quality players unless you're happy to wait a decade and then for it to last just several months and see it broken up over night for a few undisclosed small transfer fees?
Also our record of attracting up coming young players from other league and non league is pitiful on comparison to Posh, who need to be seen as example as ti where we need to go, we should be a much bigger club than them and have 30 plus goals a season players that we dont need to sell until the price is right..
Even mk have a player they want £5m for, their second in 3 years!
Infrastructure..Support base and sponsorship level increases ... good players...promotons...profitable player dealings.. this is the only order that works.
Look through our last 50 years history and speak to Kelvin about the dangers of trying to buck a trend fraught with danger.
Steady and sustainable growth with community involvement.

The only pressing item is a new team that performs properly under a manager who is young, fresh and knowledgeable. The rest of what you want is useless without it.

Whats the point in building up a team that will be sold for shirt buttons as soon as a clued up club takes a fancy?
How can we keep them here longer in order to get the right price and attract up and coming players who choose Sixfields over Peterborough or mk to enjoy 3 seasons of great football then achieve  the right sell on bounty?
At Sixfields now, if we're lucky to attract over the those other clubs we will enjoy 1 season then he would be sold on for an undisclosed 200k.
Something needs to give.

So how many clubs above us in the league ladder have terraces now. Having a decent side to get us out of league 2 is gonna be needed way before standing room for away fans.

Chicken and egg scenario do we build another great team in poor conditions that we cant sustain and then lose for a fraction of their worth  or do we redevelop  and improve revenue streams then build a team we may even be able to keep hold of and attract better quality thus buying and sell profitably?
We must be the only team never to have sold a player for £500,000 and one of a few who hasn't sold for a million.
Our record purchase is just 160k some 12 years ago.
How does that compare to all our nearest rivals mk posh oxford luton?
You see we have a major problem thats not going away if not addressed.

so if we were ever to get to the championship then you'd be happy to just condemn one end of the stadium then 

We get 3 years grace but that has been over looked at Brentford for 6 seasons and Burton 2, so nothing to lose sleep over.
It will be having a terracing that finally allow us to one day challenge as a league 1 club so lets get it built.
I could see some on here protest against it even if Kelvin had a complete turn around and decided to raise funds to increase capacity by the cheapest and best way.
Would you Marquis, feel hard done by?

At the end of the day you are and continue to make yourself look a complete tit.

You have stated that things that are common place and very successful at nearly every other professional club throughout the world, you suggest wont work for us? But haven't given any explanation for your wild assumptions.
Special mention to your insistance that having a tiny ground with a huge catchmen is good business practice.. Mate go and have a lie down then give your mate Kelvin a call and ask his honest opinion, you may be surprised

23.92/1 at my bookie, did you put on £3.70 ?

Returns £92.23 inc stake.

£5😐

My questions are as follows(maybe, just maybe you will answer them unlike so many times in the past).

1. How do you fund the build of your expansion of the ground and it's facillities? In the past you have advocated selling season tickets three to five years in advance, now that is really good cashflow sense.

2. As much as I liked the film, I'm not quite sure the field of dreams scenario plays out here(it certainly hasn't at other clubs). If these new supporters are sat now at home on a Saturday afternoon instead of attending games what makes you think that expanding the ground will make the suddenly turn up? If they were interested they would be attending already.

3. Once you have spent the clubs budget for you expansion how are you going to finance a squad that can compete at league 2 levels, let alone in the  Championship? NB. Do not quote figures plucked from your árse, actually show some sort of sensible calculation.

4. You love to quote 365 use of the new facillities. The facillities will be available for 365 days a year, but as an conservative estimate I would say you will be lucky to rent them out for three to four days in seven. So how much is it going to cost to have those facillities unused for 157 days a year?

5. You speak of "A small dedicated sales team" in addition to that you will require staff for you new 365 day a year club house/facillities. How are they going to be financed, will it be at the cost of the playing budget, or where else will you get the money from?

6. So where are the 'massive gains to be had'? From what I can see your scenario will have us in the National League North in five years playing as NTFC2023.

Havent I already mark your cards on all the following? Here goes..
1.Only if we retain our hand to mouth existence and not improve all aspects of our product.. Already covered to death.
2.We have a healthy 5500 regular home  and 600 visiting customers and need to look to increasing our overall attendance by a minimum of 30%, hopefully more to be a major success, it will take some redevelopment but nothing like the film you refer to as they were starting from scratch while we have a well positioned base and a 120 year old club that is well supported and respected.. no comparison.
3.increased revenues year on year, gate, corperate, tv, sponsorship, small town centre promotional stand sellin tickets,  merchandise, birthday visits  etc etc etc..
We just need to get off our arses and go out and get what is ripe for picking.
Aim for just 50% of what the saints do and we will be unrecognisable to todays shambles and challenging for the championship in 5 years.
4. Lots of successful cafes, resturants and pubs work out a roster to allow for quieter times and added help during busier that benefit their businesses.. Dont panic.
5.No sales and marketing no club.. What is it that drives your sales or are you a civil servant or something, maybe a tax inspector 😲
6.increased gate revenues, corperate revenues, sponsorship, tv monies... aim for 20% year on year keeps the buckets away.

The point being made is that Beds wants to knock down the South Stand and build a terrace because he is convinced that the government will change the law and allow standing in the top two divisions within the next 3 years. It doesn't look like they will so now this news has been pointed out to him he's done his usual trick of just ignoring it.

No to Knocking down a perfectly good stand but build up behind it to give a fine bank of terracing.
Giving us a must visit proper football ground.

Tonights bet,
Charlton, Northampton and wigan all away wins.
easy £92..

[years and years]

Brilliant, cheers.

I'm not advocating we don't expand the ground / away stand etc but the away followings are quite interesting that it looks like only 2 / 3 have completely sold out and would potentially have bought more if they could.

Shelling out to build a 3k concrete terrace 'ala beds' would take years and years to become financially rewarding and there is no guarantee that more away fans would travel purely because it is a terrace.

Try taking a look from a different angle, you and a few others are only counting absolute away sell outs therefore assuming that if its not sold out we dont have increased revenues.
This is not true, with a much better atmospheric old school terracing you will attract more visitors and home based fans to enjoy a bigger match experience, even if its only 100 or a 1000 visitors and 1000 to 2000 home support  more than would visit now, its a massive rise in revenue over a season.
It doesn't have to sell out, we just need to attract more visitors to make it a massive success that is sustainable.

There is true sustainable growth and then there is your completely ludicrous pie in the sky ideas which even when you are faced with the glaring holes in your scenarios you are either too pigheaded or just to effing stupid to see them.
Using your ideas we would spend a money on a ground that will be half empty for most of the games in a season and have no money left to spend on a squad that will get us promoted to the Championship so we stand a chance of filling the ground on matchdays.

With all due respect, its you that can not see the glaring 'massive gains to be had' within my scenario, Im neither too pig headed or stupid to see that with current level of sales and marketing and the tools the poor sales staff have to try and work with trying to entice new business clients and supporters in general,  to a totally inadequate and quite frankly  civic embarrasment that looks bad on our town and football  club.
If you have some decent corperate boxes and dining facilities that can be used as a 365 day venue for hire, a 7 day a week supporters bar that does sky tv, food etc, if you have the 3000 bank of new terracing, it gives that much needed extra capacity and a more professional out look to the place. With all this in place and you have a small dedicated team hammering home sales techniques with a much greater product that shines like a beacon of professionalism you would have to expect gates of 7 or 8000 plus at every home game considering a credible 5500 turn up to what is now  a very pitiful Sixfields.

Oh I see, it's now all the Trust's fault. Nice.

It clearly states previous  regimes.

Didn't you say standing would be allowed at football within a couple of years, beds? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43701400

West brom are in the premiership so different or outdated rules apply perhaps?
Most premiership grounds have mass standing in seated areas that is dangerous and will have to be issued and safe standing zones will be in place very soon

A newly built safe old school standing terracing is essential for us to make Sixfields a place to attract our younger fans and even more visting fans to a more atmospheric ground and most importantly give us an increase in our pitifully small capacity. we really have to have one.

GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE COMING AROUND TO MY WAY OF THINKING THEN, BEDS!

Doing nothing and being overly trusting to those doing the nothing isnt in anyway sustainable?
Unless you really did have proposals and I missed them, care to share😉

I and probably more than you believe, agree with what your declared aspirations are over how our club should be progressed (with slight variations).  However it is, as I have expressed previously, your incessant banging of the same drum over and over again that irritates those who speak to me more than anything.
This is on a subject that the majority understand that, by reading between the lines, there have been third party delays that need to be endured to ensure that when the redevelopment restarts it is going to be more or less to a result not far from our desire by not 'rushing' into something of a half cocked version that in subsequent years is once again not fit for purpose. 
I honestly know no more than you do, but I believe that once the Council/NBC/etc issues are sorted, KT will endeavour to publicise and deliver his plans/priorities and eventual actions.  I sincerely hope that I am correct in my interpretation.
We have been relatively patient thus far, hopefully we will not need to be for too much longer.
In the meantime, I would suggest that in your case (a lot) less would be a whole lot more.

My whole reason to speak out these past 14 years at the various owners inactivity and seemingly indifference towards our clubs constant demise has been born out of frustration at our previous trust hierarchy  who got far to cozy with those in charge, lost their voices and couldn't see what was happening.
Since mine and others incessant banging of the same old drum have actully put paid to the most recent bouts of delaying and belittling tactics which are no longer valid to our clubs support base as we now want action.
So you're  still pretty confident that the Northampton borough council  will hand over land leases worth a fortune to these latest unworthy lot in hope that its local football club get some redevelopment money, getting.. god only knows what as we have no plans or proposals and nothing guaranteed.
I can only speak for myself but if I was given several millions by, for example Carlisles local council, a place that I have no conection with in order to help a club I dont care much for, I can assure you it would be as little as posible that wont be much more than a token gesture, and thats only if Im feeling generous.
So you can see why I dont share your trust and belief that 'KT will endevour to hand over plans'
He should do it now if he's not anything like me.

Lets all spend loads-a-money, coz we all believe we can be top dog. Why should anything go wrong!

Try sustainable investment, Nothing to lose and everything to gain😉

You know as well as me that KT has made no secret at all of the fact that he will sell to the right investor. The bit you struggle with is accepting they rarely exist.. Because that doesn't sit well with your pathological, stalker like perspective of him.

Thats a bit harsh😂
Im sure hes a great guy who just wants to rinse the club for all he can get, nothing illegal or under hand there, business is business  but it doesn't mean we all have facilitate him by waiting several more years sucking it up through a straw.
I have seen many league clubs genuinely  being put up forsale and its been made common knowledge through sports media and the general press, Ive even seen adverts selling clubs over the years and posh was shown as a fly on the wall documentary to get a sale that got them a hefty investment which is still paying off, well done mr Fry.

Last 5 games we should get the cameras in, access all areas, warts and all but with special attention to our credentials as a club and Town thats ripe for investment and growth.

Sixfields may not be the greatest stadium in the world but I lose interest everytime it is called non league just to suit an argument.

For anybody that has been to matches in the conference and the north and south conferences Sixfields is anything but non league.

we have the little stands, no arguments there, non league.
 Every single non league ground have large supporters bars and lounges.. we have got a tiny broom cupboard that cant even cater for food due to its size and has vast bar queues, not fit for purpose.
At nearly 50% of non league National prem grounds there's corperate boxes lounges etc.. we sometimes have a tent..
I make that Cobblers 1 non league 3
We actually  have a substandard non league ground.

Nor do I...

I have to admit that being outspoken against the inactivity at Sixfields and those who portray themselves as saviours and seek absolute adulation without criticism, and Im not talking about kim yong il and Kim the jounger un... This has unfortunately brought with it a little notoriety, most are ok with my stance to see our club crawl free from the oppression of North Korea sorry I mean Sixfields but others who I suspect are still staunch cardozaites who are probably still loyal to our supreme leader David 2005-16.. that have subsequently aligned their  support to Kelvin, have not shown any love or acceptance to my thoughts.
The club is different things to different folk, and all are welcome to demand the club they want, its just Im sick of us always  being a bit skint, small s hit and league 2.