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41  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 15, 2024, 11:45:52 am
For the sake of balance can I just point out that the Trust have made a couple of really good decisions that they revealed in their latest news. The first involves the enabling fans from the Community Trust’s disability programme to travel with Cobblers Travel/Earls Barton Cobblers to the upcoming fixture against Wycombe Wanderers. They have also purchased a wet weather gazebo for Sixfields Sounds DJ Mat Amos, who plays music outside Carr’s Bar on matchdays.
42  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 15, 2024, 10:42:20 am
Are they trying to silence people who ask difficult questions?
I believe the term that can be used in those circumstances is vexatious litigation, things you learn.
43  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 15, 2024, 09:31:33 am
can you list the accusations exactly please so I can see if they are defamatory

Thanks

Incidentally on this subject, in the event anyone is interested please see below the response I gave to the board in response to their recent letter.

Dear Board Members,
 
I am writing in response to your email of Tuesday 12th March (ASET) attached below.
 
Thank you for providing your interpretation of the legal position relating to my comments posted on The Hotel End supporters forum, in my capacity as a life member of the NTFC Supporters Trust.
 
As I am sure you will accept, it was necessary to obtain my own legal interpretation regarding the comments made and wish to advise that they significantly contradict those stated in your email below. Given the historical and recent evidence that is at my disposal, and in addition information available in the public domain, it has been indicated that my communications could reasonably be interpreted as honest opinion. Given the legal expertise at your disposal, I am sure you are aware there are also a number of further defences, that could be actively pursued should this matter progress.
 
As a result, I regret to inform you that I will neither apologise or withdraw my comments, which have been interpreted as both reasonable and defendable considering the relevant evidence in existence. Additionally, I also believe it to be reasonable that I continue to communicate challenging questions and opinions in an attempt to make the Board of the Trust open, transparent, and accountable to the membership, which again in my opinion the Board are failing to honour to an appropriate extent.
 
Further to this it could be argued that using the forum as a conduit of communication for this process is also reasonable, given the boards failure to adequately answer or report to the membership commercial questions that were previously submitted directly to the board. If you recall, these were described as “valid”  by yourselves and were pertaining to the potential success or failure of the proposals that were part of the ACV application voted on by the membership. This is in addition to the possibility of any consequences the club, council and/or taxpayer may have experienced following the Trust Boards activities. Whilst these consequences may or may not exist, I believe that it is reasonable that the membership and supporters are given an opportunity to evaluate these concerns and the way they are managed, and to expect that any issues are fully addressed and communicated to the membership. As such, it may be argued that it is a continuing failure on the part of the Board not to do so.
 
Can I finally reiterate how disappointed I am both personally and in my capacity as a life member that the Board have taken the decision to embark on this process. I feel this disappointment is particularly justified given the repeated failure of the Board to honour its obligations in applying its clearly stated social media policy with regards to communications made on social media by members of the Board, who may I remind you are also fellow trust members and represent myself and my fellow members. I feel this is unreasonable and demonstrates a lack of consistency and fairness on the part of the Board, particularly when the various communications submitted by the relevant Board members are compared to that of my own.
 
Given the above, I now consider this matter closed pending any further legal applications you may wish to make.
 
Regards,
 
44  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 15, 2024, 09:06:56 am
I like the idea of a whimsical or a nonchent owner. Sounds like the type of person we could go on a journey with. There'll always be an NTFC of some description in the aftermath.
Negligent less so. Conjours up images of underachievement, decay, abuse and misuse.
Traceys gone broad church with that phrase. Look after your family or we'll do you?
It is a bit heavy going, but it is going to present some challenges for the aspirations of some. Does it make it harder for clubs to make significant progress up the pyramid, or easier because it is harder for clubs to spend beyond their means and levelling the playing field.
45  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 15, 2024, 06:21:29 am
I wonder what constitutes a careless owner?
as in whimsical and nonchalant or negligent?
46  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 14, 2024, 22:33:56 pm
Hi Melly

At this stage I don't have an answer but if we don't start the discussions we won't know what is or isn't possible

Although from my point of view, I would not want to hand over any money to give free rein to any owners (past, present or future)

Can the council as freeholders of the stadium, make improvements without the permission from the leaseholders? 

Could they add another tier to the North stand for example if they wanted?  I don't know but landlords make improvements to their property all the time


To be fair mate, with regards to the box park it’s not a start of the discussions. I put these questions to the Board whilst you were actively pursuing the proposal with Goodwill Solutions and long before you withdrew. It was also confirmed they would be responded to. I’m genuinely interested if you were able to come up with any strategies to mitigate the risks? If you can’t you can’t, or if it’s the case that it is dependent on the relationship with the owners then so be it. However if you are going to keep promoting it as a valid option then I think it’s reasonable that you confirm whether or not that any strategies exist, and if so what they are. As I said it’s absolutely crucial that these are addressed for any infrastructure or revenue generating exercise. Bear in mind that even if you had an excellent working relationship with the owners then you might not necessarily with the next ones so this doesn’t go away. Personally much like the North Stand initiative, I think these ideas are only really workable if it is a fan owned club.
47  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 14, 2024, 21:57:34 pm
Nobody was driven away, they came (except Bhyll) with a certain agenda, and then when KT pulled the plug, off they went.  Please point out what they tried to achieve, I mean you could ask Rob Duncan, he was very busy taking notes at every meeting, including the AGM for someone some reason.

LOL so expensive coffee in a freezing box park !!!   please remind me what benefit has the running track land given to supporters or club in the last 10 years ?

With regards to the option of the box park can I take the opportunity to repeat the questions raised previously so that I may consider the options more fully. The questions remain important because they could apply to any proposed fan led or funded projects.

What mechanisms are to be put in place to protect investment in any infrastructure of the club on behalf of the membership. The club may be sold or taken over at some point, so it would be prudent to ask the question if measures are to be taken to ensure that any investments would be legally separated and excluded from any sale or transfer of ownership? What control or influence if any would the membership have over any additional revenue generated by these improvements. An obvious risk is that any additional revenue could be used as a share dividend for any owners and shareholders, which one would assume is not the ultimate aim of any investment on the part of the membership? What are the intended conditions that would be associated with any improvements or developments to protect any investments and ensure that any revenue generated is channelled appropriately. Some areas of Sixfields earmarked for improvement may already generate revenue. How is this to be identified and excluded from any calculation regarding additional revenue generated as part of any funding? Alternatively is the intention that any owners are given free reign to use any additional revenue generated at their discretion?
48  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 14, 2024, 21:06:50 pm
I would prefer a survey where there is no multiple choice, in essence just the “other” box which incidentally is missing from a couple of questions. That way rather than limiting the result you extract as much as possible from the respondents. I think it would also benefit from an area to add any additional subjects for focus. As others have alluded to, subjective statements such as “hemmed in” are unhelpful and potentially influence the response. Without being flippant the issue with some of this is that given the choice you are obviously going to develop everything to the maximum. Thats not the challenge though.
Given the position the Trust is in regarding its relationship with the club I personally don’t think this is the most productive use of its time. I think it should focus on some wider pending issues such as the government white paper on football reform and what impact and challenges that leads to.

Genuine question, what does anyone know about the white paper, should this progress it could have huge ramifications for the future of the club and any ambitions. What are the concerns or potential challenges you see us facing in light of the proposals and what are your thoughts generally?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9255/

49  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Grade the Cobblers on: March 14, 2024, 14:32:45 pm
Players & Management - A
Ownership - A++++
Facilities - N/A
Match Day Experience - N/A
Community - N/A
Do I feel part of the club? - A

I’d have given the owners 5 plus but I thought this might strain credibility?
50  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Grade the Cobblers on: March 14, 2024, 13:34:18 pm
Something I was thinking about while on the school run earlier, what grades would I give the Cobblers in the following categories?

Players & Management - B-
Ownership - C+
Facilities - D
Match Day Experience - B-
Community - A
Do I feel part of the club? - A

Be interested to know what others think, without it becoming all about the redevelopment.

Personally, I felt players and management are good but I couldn’t justify a top grading based on a few issues.

Ownership I feel are a safe pair of hands but there are some obvious issues ongoing that have been discussed to death.

Facilities - obvious.

Matchday - taking into account the whole experience, be that for kids or hospitality - I think they do a very good job with what they have.

Community - excellent

Feeling part of the club - I do, partly why I love supporting a “smaller team”.
What did your parents pick on the journey?
51  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Supporters Advisory Board on: March 14, 2024, 13:12:37 pm
Loving that idea!

Do they do no win no fee? I’ve phoned about 10 firms so far, detailed the case and they've all put the phone down on me. Anyone know a good legal advisor, they’re hard to come by.
52  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 13, 2024, 01:16:37 am
Thought we did ok, 6/10. Lacked a little bit of energy, a little bit of quality, and failed to impose ourselves on Blackpool enough, so all in all fair result. Too many of our players are on the peripheral, too often, whether its ability or a learning curve is dependant on the individual, perhaps a bit of both.
I think you can also divide the division into 5 blocks, us being in about block 3. Blackpool block 2 pushing 1. Positive moment of the match, Leonards tackle and drag back on the edge of the box second half, what a player. Negative moment, apart from the above, the referee. Yet another below par inconsistent performance, disappointing.
53  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 12, 2024, 20:49:08 pm
Basically said he didn’t know what all the fuss was about and the Cobblers were very ordinary 😂
Now I’ve got no interest either.
54  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 12, 2024, 20:43:37 pm
No interest in the opinions of opposition commentators, reminds me of the comments Keith Curle made about the Wilder and Knill team 😉
I’m interested, what did Curle say?
55  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 12, 2024, 20:38:12 pm
For those who are in any doubt, my post was in reference to Bedsy's canal residency... Wink
I got it Rim…..unfortunately.

It was similar to when I got Covid.
56  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 12, 2024, 20:37:13 pm
Moulden raises the pulse doesn’t he.
57  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: March 12, 2024, 13:41:17 pm
I've accepted NTFC have been stripped to the bone and will now be a lower league club while most of us take our last  breaths.
I can say one thing not many others can't and that is I've seen NTFC play in the top flight in 1966 with my father.
When I next returned in 1970 we were in 4th division .
So I've never seen my club play in the 2nd tier of English football and it now looks very unlikely I ever will.
That ridiculous tiny East stand that Thomas is threatening to dump on us costing all things considered £20,000.000 will be the final nail in our coffin.
I nowadays spend Saturdays cruising around the Northamptonshire,  Leicestershire,  Warwickshire and Oxfordshire canals listening to the Cobblers on the wireless...I'm very happy with the great work of John and his team, they deserve so much better than plying their trade in a non league ground that is devoid of ambition.
Good luck the cobblers for tonight,  I shall be listening in as I can't bring myself to give these greedy owners a single penny more.
Oh dear, seems like you’re still firmly entrenched in your own alimentary canal.
58  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 12, 2024, 13:37:37 pm
That’s because AK is a quality full back with pace, Brough isn’t any of those things.
Including a full back?
59  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Blackpool (h) on: March 12, 2024, 13:36:29 pm
I’m feeling extraordinarily positive about this one 3-1, Tyreece, Bowie, Moore, in no particular order. No idea who will score for them, sorry.
60  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Cambridge Away 9th March on: March 12, 2024, 13:26:21 pm
I prefer the term “Rookie”
Funnily enough following recent events I’ve updated myself to that very status.
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