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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / North Stand Terrace - The future of going to football? on: Today at 05:19:23
With relegation almost inevitable and with our owners and (whoever is the council) locked in a staring match, nothing will be happening to Sickfields for a very long time.

Covid is with us and is not going away, how will going to football be affected? Sitting, squeezed up for 90 minutes surrounded by cold hard surfaces is about the best way to spread it around, I would argue, so for now at least seated stadiums are almost useless.

There is absolutely no connection between going to Hillsborough in 1989 for an FA Cup semi-final and watching league one or two football today, especially now. To sneak Hawkwind into another thread, all your needs are catered for anticipated, calculated all your wants are monitored programmed, computer formulated...It wont be long before your ticket is through an app and the turnstile will open to your QR Code.

With that in mind and considering we'll probably be at home to Barrow next season. I suggest we call to pull out the seats in the North Stand and replace it, not with safe standing but with free movement, old style terracing. Not only will it be a better atmosphere for the few hardy souls who will continue to go, but it would probably get the backing of the WHO on health grounds!

I didn't want to post this in the tired redev thread as this is not about Sixfields per se, but how any of you might perceive the matchday experience will be for the next season or so as things are going to be different, the FA Cup semi final not allowing under 18's, who could have ever predicted that!
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: Yesterday at 11:20:42
Iíd start with a hotel -Premier Inn type

With you there but nothing standard.

Attached to the stadium a huge 100 room hotel, with standard rooms through to top end suites, a huge bar area on the ground floor capable of gobbling up money everyday especially a match day, roof top destination restaurant, fitness suite, pool, gym and function room/suite.

The council should tout the rest of Sixfields as a premium location to the biggest delivery giants in the market for their HQ/Hub and sell them the whole bloody lot ensuring jobs a huge pay day and prosperity for the future.

They wont do this though. it will just look shit forever.
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Jon Brady on: Yesterday at 05:59:51
if we go down by a point , would you keep this management team on next season ?

I prefer the question, which management team would be an improvement on this one next season and why?


Good question. I would like to hear opinions on this, I would say at this level, on our budget, there isn't one.

We heard Joey Bartons name mentioned, Carton is right. Take Grant McCann as an example, fired from Pooh for being too "rookie," hated at Hull last season now you could argue Pooh were a bit premature? Need they have ever bothered sacking DF twenty times before? it's all nuts!

I would like to see what this trio do with the team given the chance.
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: Yesterday at 02:55:16
It is a combination of all involved, I'm not excusing anyone. I have been trying for what seems forever now to get people to move on past the so called ďring fencedĒ money.

I have said right from the start, even when I was on the Trust board, that nothing can happen until something concrete is said about the land. If it is not part of the clubs future, and the council donít see it as so, then just sell it to somebody completely unrelated to the club. The constant state of flux over the land is what has, and what will continue to attract owners who might not prioritise the stadium, or the club. Hence my interest in the parameters of the original lease and tenancy agreement.

And there we have it...

1405 pages of wasted waffle. No sane individual is going to buy the club, spend millions on the stadium, millions on a team with no serious ability to recoup the money.

Until a clear designated area of Sixfields is given over to the club owners to develop (correctly) nothing will happen. The correct development should wipe away the missing money to the council, provide substantial funds to the club, KT and his backers.

We could have years to wait so in the meantime we may as well play a different game with all you entrepreneurs.

If you were given a significant acreage of Sixfields what would you put there to generate firstly a large sum and then funds year on year?

5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: April 12, 2021, 15:06:00 pm
Except an impressive home wonít draw investment if it is a financial burden hanging around the neck of the business. Investment is attracted by potential return, itís that simple.

Random is quite correct to a degree and this statement, if you don't mind me saying is a bit confused. I may not have been clear, but what I mean from "investment" is generating income.

If I want to sponsor, treat my friends to a matchday experience, pay for advertising etc. I want the best experience, I'm not interested in the mortgage payments and I'm certainly not going to nail my proud company's name to a garden shed. So for that reason you are quite wrong.

An impressive home in my book, speaking as a builder, would include an impressive kitchen, and equally impressive facilities and social spaces designed to impress and create confidence. The same applies to football and businesses alike its an indisputable fact that an impressive "home" (in any capacity) draws "investment" just as you would take the wife on her birthday to a nice restaurant rather than a kebab shop, maybe?

The situation is not that complex, we have an impasse and in my book this could be easily be solved as unlike many other clubs we have a huge advantage. Land.

KT has the money to "finish the stand" whatever that might be, but he wont spend that money until he is clear on how his team can generate funds from the land to recoup, its quite simple, everyone is just grabbing for assurances right now because its still as clear as mud.

If the club was put for sale tomorrow with a large area of Sixfields attached, with clear preferred planning proposed for certain developments, hotel, retail whatever, new owners would easily be found and probably locally? Who knows? Something needs to pay for the football.

Nobody has the balls to let something happen, the council are now too risk adverse, but if the right development was enabled through owners of NTFC the council would have their money back, the owners an income and NTFC have their annual losses covered.

I know you prefer paragraphs but can I be cheeky and ask you for a one word reply?

Would a finished east stand be more "impressive" than unfinished?
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: April 12, 2021, 09:23:06 am
I'm quite glad the Pooh game has been moved to Friday night, being 6 hours ahead here there's no way I'm staying up until 1am to see us demolished by our fiercest rivals. They are still our local rivals whatever any young un's say, my mates a Notts County fan and just because they don't play Forest often do you think they're not rivals?

Since the Irish traveller took over the gap between the clubs has grown to the point its now become a chasm, despite being in the same division and fair play to him, he has backed the club all the way and even fought with the council over the stadium. Now he has bought the ground and despite building two impressive stands in the time it has taken us to build a fuck up, expect it to be demolished soon for flats and a new out of town stadium to be built that will make Sixfields look even more embarrassing.

They were lucky, nobody legged it with 10m of taxpayers cash and the council will allow him to make a tidy bundle in the deal. After all he's a proper developer and knows exactly how to squeeze the maximum profit out of land, better than most of those who sit on the council.

Herein lies the rub. NTFC have been prisoners to their home throughout their lives. Firstly strangled by the Cockerill Trust and now entangled with complicated legal issues and infighting over the all important adjoining land. This of course was the intention of DC and his crew to make it as impossible for any one individual to be found guilty. Many bent individuals do the very same with businesses, create a smoke screen of complication, names and ownership to avoid whats really going on.

No owner. KT or otherwise is going to do anything to the stadium until they have a clear path to develop adjoining land or raise serious capital for their investment in NTFC. Just as MacAnthony is now due to make a packet or at least some reimbursement for his investment in PUFC, we will never move forward until a tangible solution to the Sixfields conundrum is found.

DC is gone, shit happens, but until the council open up and stop being embarrassed of the football club, sit down with the club owners and agree on a constructive and profitable way forward we are doomed to groundhog day.

In the wake of this pandemic the world of retail has changed forever and what may have been deemed a sensible development just a year ago might now be less appropriate. Despite the issues with the state of the ground surrounding the stadium, the Sixfields area is still a potential goldmine (or gas rig!) If the new council and KT could actually sit around a table and together come up with a sensible way forward there is plenty of potential for both parties to make serious money, make the dark days of DC and his cowboys a distant memory and finally unlock the door to the stadium and therefore the club.

We constantly hear from some corners on here that the stadium is not important, but its all about the team, well sorry that's nonsense or no club would look at improving both their capacity or facilities. An impressive home draws the confidence of investment, that's just business.

The council need to agree with KT how to develop some adjoining land allowing the owners to recoup their losses and create wealth going forward for both parties. A superb hotel complex, retail park or just use the ace card we have up our sleeve, sell a huge chunk of Sixfields to Amazon for their UK distribution hub.

We 'aint going to change our fortunes on the pitch until the shit storm off of it is sorted.

7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Relegation Watch 20/21 on: April 11, 2021, 10:53:09 am
Most if not all of them will just change kickoff time as there are so few midweeks to go now....the season finishes in 4 weeks!! Pretty much everyone is playing all the next three midweeks already, and six teams already have a game on 4th May.

There will be 1300 starts and 1600-1700 starts I reckon

If it's early kick offs, we may be in the mood for a funeral by 3pm.  Cry
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Rattling the Rovers 10.4.21 on: April 11, 2021, 08:23:08 am
Can you smoke one for me too.

I needed that too, cheers and I had many more. I couldn't see to type stuff here. Wink

I have to disagree with "The Verve," as last night the drugs did work and by half time I couldn't give a shit.

I'm going to need a lot more to get me through to the end of the season.
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Rattling the Rovers 10.4.21 on: April 10, 2021, 14:47:09 pm
I've just rolled my 6th joint of the day and now on my 8th beer.

My senses are dulled for the next 2 hours. I'm ready.
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Rattling the Rovers 10.4.21 on: April 10, 2021, 06:41:30 am
Quite simply the biggest game in the World.

Bigger than that.
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Rattling the Rovers 10.4.21 on: April 08, 2021, 05:58:59 am
Call me what you like (knock kneed chicken or a bow legged hen) but I don't think I can watch.

It'll be peeking out at Jeff Stelling from behind the sofa.
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 08, 2021, 05:15:26 am
At the moment I'd give the JB Bunch a go, even if we go down.
He'll be learning as he goes along and we can't deny that his heart is in it. As long as he limits his public displays of that emotion.
If I wasn't given the chance to make mistakes whilst learning along the way, as long as they weren't fatal, I would have been binned in a number of things a long while before my career had even started.
Fatal to us would be dropping into the National League, not League Two.
Whether the management and/or the fans have the patience or understanding to allow him that time and short term reduction in performances whilst going through that period, is the question.
But I would stick with them (JBB) and give them that opportunity.
Is that nailed enough? Wink Cool

Nailed perfectly!

Give them a go, if its not looking terrible by Christmas and we are sinking in league two then make the change back to the old routine. Any new manager really needs a window to make effective changes.

13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Relegation Watch 20/21 on: April 07, 2021, 15:08:28 pm
i doubt we will ever play 5 at the back again and so we will at least have a bit of a better chance than before

5 up front on satdee.  Wink
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Rattling the Rovers 10.4.21 on: April 07, 2021, 15:06:41 pm
Not quite as detailed a preview as GPC... but good for people like me with a short at


15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 07, 2021, 08:44:53 am
You're beginning to sound desperate now, not a good sign...  Wink

 Grin quite possibly!

However, I'll take having a strong opinion over splinters in my arse any day.

Nail your colours to the mast sir, if not Brady, who would you put in charge and why?
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 07, 2021, 05:10:56 am
Why not appoint the current Wales caretaker manager?

Why not appoint the current England U-21 manager?

Why not appoint the manager of the form team of the last 2 months at Burton?

The strange world of football managerment!

In the Brady Bunch we trust.

Over to the players!


Just to add to the debate, after last night and based on results alone you could level that both Carlos Corberan at Huddersfield or even Jurgen Klopp were out of their depth.

Brady has been given no time whatsoever and inherited a mis-shaped, un-balanced frankly impossible squad. I wouldn't judge his ability on a one off maybe forced experiment against a Hull team flying. They had even pinpointed our game as a must win.

The team rebuilding in the summer should be led by Brady, Sampson and Richards.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 07, 2021, 03:19:18 am
The comments from the Hull manager just show how far Brady is out of his depth.

The very same was being said about McCann by Pooh fans when failed to win in 7 games and subsequently got sacked. Prematurely?

Brady isn't out of his depth, the badly assembled squad is. If you had swapped the squads around on satdee, McCann may have looked less than adequate.

He's not been able to bring in his players and is working with the after effects of an "experienced" manager.

Who's your management choice for guaranteed success?

18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Relegation Watch 20/21 on: April 05, 2021, 17:33:57 pm
I'm not sure I can cope with this.
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 05, 2021, 17:23:23 pm
Its a ragtag and bobtail side stitched together at the seams, its quite a miracle we still have a chance and its in our own hands.

A point worth mentioning, Jeff Stelling said at the start, after Hull lost 8-0 to Wigan last season every Hull fan wanted McCanns head.
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Away at 'Ull Easter Monday 05.04.21 on: April 05, 2021, 04:10:00 am
Some Cobblers porn to get us in the mood. The County Ground looking amazing, duck boards an all, at 6:20 was that you?

If we can stick 6 past Bournemouth in one half Hull should be a walk over...
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