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4821  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Gobby ***** on: April 23, 2011, 20:32:07 pm
This is simples. Sammo was sacked after 33 games. He won 9 of them. We were 16th in the table.

IF we go down Johnson would have failed to win a single game from his 13. Despite having the luxury of signing an additional 6 players. We will be 23rd (likely) in the table.

For me there is no mitigation. The timing of the sacking was...about right. If we had lost to Gillingham he would *probably have gone earlier in the season but he earned a pro-longed stab at it. The Burton game was the final straw and I said in the car afterwards he would be sacked the following day. So it was no surprise when it happened.

Of course Sammo isn't blameless, most of the players currently in the team are his. Of course DC isn't blameless, we are now reaping what was sown 1,2 and 3 years ago. But 90% of the blame if we go down is down to the incumbent. His bull in a china shop approach to the job was the wrong way to go...most fans loved him though for it! And they still do because he tells it how it is. But that approach pisses people off as well. Which is no doubt the main reason why the team hasn't been playing for him, although that tide seems to have turned because for the first time during his tenure we have put in back to back 'efforts'. Lets just hope we have some long overdue luck that will get us across the line. Because without it I fear the worst.

And If we do go down I will be mightily pissed off if GJ does leave. He needs to stay and put the wrongs right. Its very frustrating because we all know that long term he will be really good. But boy has he been s*** for us so far!
4822  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Sampson would have been slaughtered if... on: April 23, 2011, 20:13:21 pm
Your not wrong their hamster...luck it is now. We need a dodgy penalty after 10 minutes coupled with a red card for the offending defender. I actually made that point post Bury myself, that is the only way we will win. And of course it could easily happen. Sods law, the goal we conceded yesterday after 5 minutes was terribly unfortunate. Then we hit the post twice before conceding the 2nd. We are clearly not getting the rub of the green. We are certainly due some!
4823  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: What will be will be on: April 23, 2011, 20:07:34 pm
Well I accepted that we were going down after the Bury game. And before anyone says it; I certainly don't during the 90 minutes when we are actually playing! Its just the in-between times; this team hasn't got a win in it. Been saying it for weeks and we wont win again this season. The question that remains unanswered is whether or not the 47/48 points we will end up on is enough to escape the drop? After todays results that seems to be unlikely, but surely one of the teams on those points now will lose their last 3 games. Law and averages and all that. We will know very soon!
4824  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Sampson would have been slaughtered if... on: April 23, 2011, 19:54:24 pm
Well my view hasn't changed...too many changes, destroying the dressing room in the process. Net result = a shambles. 10 games without a win now under his stewardship, yet people still blame Sammo!! Playing defenders in midfield seems to be the way forward now. And telling all and sundry on Radio Northampton that Webster was withdrawn because he wasn't imposing enough! KEEP IT IN THE DRESSING ROOM FFS...

And another thing. He talks alot about mental strength being our weakness. Now considering that over 1/3 of the team is his, why has this not been addressed to a degree? The body language of all the players when we conceded yesterday was terrible, they are a bunch of bloody girls with no back bone. We have a team of jellyfish.

BUT at least the team is now trying to a degree. I gave it a bloody good go from the stands as well, a few Delia Smith moments from me! I changed my mind and went yesterday because we gave it a go at Wycombe. After the Bury debacle I assumed that we had thrown the towel in but there is now a flickering hope.

But what cannot be denied is the reason we are 22nd is entirely down to the current incumbent. 99% of the time when a manager joins a club is because the previous manager had been sacked. Because the team was playing crap! Yet people are defending GJ on the basis that he inherited a bad team. Well Sammo didn't take 10 games to win after he inherited Grays team. And Gray himself didn't take 10 games to win after he took over from Gorman. Even Wilkinson didn't take 10 games. Or Barnwell. Or Atkins. Or Wilson. Or Carr. Or any other fcuking manager in the history of our fcuking club! Wake up and smell the bloody coffee and look no further than Gary Johnson if you are looking for a scapegoat as to why we are on the verge of becoming non-league!
4825  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 20, 2011, 21:36:25 pm
At least with hauge the country got to vote ,unlike the one eyed scottish  ****

Of course theres that as well! Im pretty sure I remember Marvo explaining that you vote for your local MP and not the PM! Which of course is true but I guess that shows another floor in our current system....AV or not AV!
4826  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 20, 2011, 20:18:57 pm
Marvo; you really are a 'staunch' red! The equivalent to the daily Mail reading Tory supporter.

Try and be a little politically balanced mate. Nothing wrong with being left and right you know. You blame the coalition for everything it seems and for some reason dismiss the previous 13 or whatever it was years before harping on about bloody Thatcher. Im not even sure whether you have in this thread, but I know from reading your previous political rants that you have.

AV is 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. I really cant see why there is anything major/exciting to discuss about it...it will not make any difference. *EXPERTS have already said that it would have barely changed history if we had used the system previously. It might swap the top 3 around a little in really tight seats, but it still doesn't open things up for any real alternatives. Which is where proportional representation/similar would.

And another thing. I actually think its rather refreshing that we have a government that is not dominant like previously regimes have been. Nothing wrong with a coalition in my mind; at least it ensures a little balance (before there was none). And if you think the Millipede is a decent alternative then fine, thats your view. I just find it quite incredible how anybody who thinks that either Cameron or/and Clegg are cocks doesn't think the same about him!! A prime minster voted in by the unions. And you talk about Hague lording it up in high office!  Grin
4827  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 20, 2011, 13:35:34 pm
It will change virtually nothing and it will consign Proportional Representation to the bin for a lifetime...

Sums up my feelings precisely...
4828  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 19, 2011, 21:35:45 pm
Talk about arguing against yourself. Do you honestly think that say a true Labour supporter would put down the conservatives or the Liberals as their second vote? Far more likely they'll look elsewhere, maybe to a green or independant. Same goes for true Tories or Liberals, they too would almost certainly look for an alternative for their second choice.

Just imagine if at the next election the choice was Labour, Liberal, Conservative or for example purposes only Keith Barwell (or any other prominent Northamptonian). Surely most supporters of the three main parties are far more likely to vote for Barwell as their second choice rather than one of their political foes. I certainly would.

I dunno so much. Labour, Libs, Cons, UKIP, BNP, Green. Who would your 3 choices be? I would still be forced into voting tactfully (Cons) followed by UKIP who I've voted for in previous Euro elections. I wouldn't bother with a 3rd unless there was an independent who I liked. The fact of the matter is is that people would still vote for one of the main 3 as their first choice and one of the 3 would ultimately get in. like they do now.
4829  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 19, 2011, 21:20:07 pm
Just to add to my previous post. The current system (and the alternative to replace it) both will ensure that only one of the main 3 - Labour, Cons and Lib Dems - ever secure enough votes to have parliamentary representation in England. That is the problem with politics in this country; 3 very very similar parties, none of which really represent anybody. Which is why voting now in general elections is so low, despite you being able to actually vote without even dragging yourself out of the house!

The whole debate surrounding cuts is a joke. Labour pre-election didn't say where they would cut whilst Tories said that they would cut but again wouldn't say where! Lib Dem's were mostly against the cuts but now have no choice other than to lord up to the Tories and thus alienate all their support. Their alternative...to rock the boat and thus force an election. And see Labour mop up. The fact is is that whoever took on the country would have had big decisions to make and we will never know the right way forward until hindsight tells us. I was in favour of the cuts, now Im not so sure. Yet the coalition can find money for wars and bailing out other countries who are even more financially ruined than ours!

In summary, you have people saying that Cameron is a **** and that Clegg is one also. Yet can these people honestly say that the alternative...Milliband...is any less irritating? In fact how ever much you dislike the former two you surely cannot claim that Milliband is more likeable!! Or full of any more substance. None of them have got any real character yet thats the whole way politics is now in this country....middle ground. Bring back the days of Thatcher, Foot, even Livingston...real politicians with real values and real opinions. Controversial maybe. Whether liked or not. At least you could respect those who you didn't vote for.
4830  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 19, 2011, 21:05:57 pm
If a debate is something when all of the parties involved agree with each other before and after it starts then fair enough. But I don't recall any voices that were against it. Yet a high percentage of the population of this country were against it. So how exactly were the peoples views represented?

At least with the Iraq invasion, we had the Lib Dem's who were against it. And thus there were two sides to the argument.

Another classic is that of Brussels/European union. I would pull out of Europe, as again would a fairly large percentage of people if given the chance. Yet again this huge debating point is never actually discussed with any real passion because the only parties capable of winning seats are all in favour of it.

Put it this way. I want us to pull out of Europe, completely change our foreign policy (and not invade every country that US fancies having a pop at); immigration would be those seeking asylum and also people who can offer us something positive - simples - regardless of where they live/are from in the world. The problem with mass immigration will never be solved whilst we are members of the EU. I would change all the road laws, speed limits etc. 90MPH 10pm - 6am, 60MPH during the day on busy sections of motorways...works both ways. Murderers/Paedo's etc would be given far harsher punishments. The list goes on...none of the 3 major parties has a voice for me as far as Im concerned. And for many others. This will stay the same regardless of AV or not.
4831  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Tonight, I am a Bradford fan ... on: April 19, 2011, 20:24:23 pm
Good stuff...draws about the worst result for us though! Come on Bradford ffs.
4832  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Tonight, I am a Bradford fan ... on: April 19, 2011, 20:23:46 pm
No, Stockport are down.

And Drilling, I think it's quite conceivable that Bradford only pick up a point or two between now and the end of the season. Their fixtures aren't the easiest and they really aren't a very good side.

Agreed. Which means they will get 48 or 49 points. Barnet have 41...are they likely to win 3 of their remaining games? I very very much doubt it.
4833  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 19, 2011, 20:20:25 pm
Think the term you are searching for is proportional representation Tongue

In essence yes. But there are many ways that you can implement such a system. For example,once the government has been formed you could have a second election to determine who leads the government. With a candidate from each of the 3 most popular parties.

For me, you don't need a majority to make politics work. You need the right people working in the system. Together for the good of the people it represents. All views need to be discussed, and the fringe parties who currently have no chance whatsoever could have an impact and really pressurise the big 3 in certain areas. At the moment we have a house of commons all in agreement with regards to the bombing of another country; no debate. How on earth can such decisions be made without even a discussion taking place before hand?
4834  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Tonight, I am a Bradford fan ... on: April 19, 2011, 20:12:36 pm
As if Bradford losing is likely to drag them into the mix! Barnet will get 6 - 8 points max from their remaining games...Bradford will get a win from somewhere. Whilst we on the other hand cannot win. Simples.

We need Burton to lose tonight, otherwise simply its a two way fight to join Stockport. With points wise and goal difference wise us with the upper hand. The question is...can Barnet win the 2 games from 4 that they will likely need to overtake us? Thats what Im focusing on.
4835  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Council elections - May 5th on: April 19, 2011, 20:06:19 pm
Switching to AV would weaken all the modern parties, which to be fair, embody the worst parts of the UK electoral system. I am a-ok with that. Party politics has killed indepedent politicial thought, provided a collective cover to soak up all manner of embarassing scandals, and turned elections into a game of personalities between two party leaders who can both rely on 100s of mindless MP's to agree with whatever decision their leaders make on a whimsy. It also allows the festering influence of Party whips and 'Communication advisors' to outweigh the people who have been elected in the first place!

Coalitions are awesome. The weaker the government is the better it is for the people, thank you very much.

This is pretty much my stance as well.

I would actually change the whole voting system to thus. In a general election you vote for the party of your choice; said party gets said percentage of the seats. If Labour get 30% of the vote, they get 30% parliamentary representation. If UKIP, Green Party, BNP etc...get 5%, 3% and 2% respectively...then they get that representation also. Simples.

In recent years England has been governed by a party who was the 2nd most popular party in the country! Yet on the flip side, Scotland never gets governed by who it wants. No body's happy and lets face it, the vast majority of people are disillusioned with politics in this country. They are all the same...its about time we had some varying opinions thrown into the mix and therefore a proper debate will happen in parliament when it comes to anything a little 'controversial'. For example; I was against bombing Libya. Yet ALL 3 parties are in favour of it! They are all in favour of most things Im against so quite frankly I have two choices...waste a vote or not bother...when it comes to elections. And Im not even extreme.

The more represented parliament is, the better balance of the outcome. Labour and Tories have both had it far too easy in recent years and AV or no AV, it wont make a blind bit of difference. So quite frankly, a pretty pointless debate!

4836  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: 19 without a win...club record on: April 19, 2011, 08:12:12 am
I think the biggest issue here is texting while driving. An absolute disgrace +you'll be lucky if you don't kill someone. Shame on you drilling,shame on you. ****.
Grin Grin
4837  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: 19 without a win...club record on: April 18, 2011, 12:56:53 pm
Its amazing when; after someone (in this case me) starts a very topical thread about a club record that is on the verge of being broken that he/she can be accused of being repetitive/negative etc! Surely at a point where the current team is closing in on something that has never happened in 114 years it is worth a discussion? Given that this is a forum to discuss Cobblers related topics on?

I didn't go on Saturday but what has that exactly got to do with things? We got a decent result I accept that. I was driving back from Devon on Saturday afternoon, listening to Five live and getting text updates. Gutted when they equalised, woke the Mrs up with a swearing rant! Anyway, the point is simple. We all go through different emotions following this team/club and currently Im soooo pissed off with the team that my posts on here are likely to replicate that feeling. So what? Im very positive much of the time, I don't expect miracles. But after a run of 16 league matches without a win I find it inconceivable (personally) how anybody can possibly be one bit upbeat at the moment. After the Torquay match I was positive, then what happened? Its a consistency thing, lets not forget the manor in which we last earned 3 points. Liverpool away was followed by 5 successive defeats after we had beaten Bradford. I/we have seen it happen now for 42 games and cup matches. A good performance followed by crap. Has the team got it in themselves to pull of a win on Friday? I bloody hope so but I have serious doubts. Bauza's goal was class though, super move...just seen it on the BBC site.
4838  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: 19 without a win...club record on: April 16, 2011, 19:39:49 pm
Still banging on about the same old shyte.

Didn't mention you once...
4839  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Andy Holt on: April 16, 2011, 19:38:33 pm
So much for 'done for the season' 'we're going down' and 'they've pakced it in and so have i'

Shows how fickle some fans can be

Yes mate you are right. So bloody fickle that I have had a season ticket every season since 1988. Im still the only twat who's proposed to his Mrs on the pitch before a game at Sixfields, featured in the chron, et and 'Chat' magasine. We lost 3-0. Was at the Exeter's Room. Was on the Trust committee back in the very early days and has since helped out in an unofficial capacity with stuff through my business. Will you be able to say the same thing in 20 years time? Maybe yes, maybe no. But statistically it will be a no.

Im not fickle mate, just pee'ed off with watching the most inept bunch of tossers to ever have worn the shirt during my time supporting them. They may well have played alright tonight but they also did versus Torquay the other week. I just cannot wait to see the back of this season.

By the way, my home stag do coincides with our last home game. We better be safe by then I tell ya. The ***** better not ruin that as well!  Grin
4840  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / 19 without a win...club record on: April 16, 2011, 19:31:08 pm
Well folks. If this team manages to beat that record it will go down most likely. If it doesn't then the chances are we will stay up with 1 win likely to be enough, unless Barnet do something stupid and win 3 from 4.

Imagine that. A team with a fair amount of quality players on paper getting the club relegated on the back of the worst ever run in the clubs 114 year history? That would be something. And for that very reason, is precisely why I am so fcuked off with the tossers.

I worked out earlier this evening we have lead in 22 of the 42 games this season. IF we had won 18 of them we would be in a play off position at least, factoring in the draws. Its incredible; they haven't got a collective ounce of courage! 2-0 and you fcuked it up we would have been singing if the shoe was on the other foot. Yet our fans are seemingly content and in some quarters even buoyant after todays result. Unbelievable.

22 games we have lead. And we've only won 9!!!
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