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41  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: June 23, 2019, 11:10:31 am
It may have gone un noticed to you but after 20 years suffering at the hands of land grabbing speculators, we barely attract 1.5% of Northampton town football clubs 300,000 exclusive catchment.
That has to be seen as the largest and most prolonged protest of all football league clubs during these past 20 golden years of footballs fashionable renaissance.
My one man 'Thomas out'  hill top protest will be in full swing V Walsall.


Is it true, you have a small band of militia, camped out in the Salcey Forest region?  Grin
42  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: June 23, 2019, 11:07:53 am
Is it... Is it really?

Out of quite a few thousand supporters, I reckon I'd struggle to fill a mini bus with those actively trying to oust KT.

The unfortunate truth is that we need a really bad season to see any groundswell of opinion on the anti KT front. If we get anywhere near promotion, the East Stand will fall straight off the supports agenda. It seems that those who are opposed to KT can make all the noise they like. All he has to do is sign a slightly above average player, and the support is putty in his hands.

Opportunities have been missed through poor advice.
Through all that, hardly see Vintage with a concerted effort to oust KT...more, valid reasons not to be hoodwinked by him and that toxic debts or not, the ball is in KT's court to get the (promised) East Stand completed before the council move forward.
Any debts (through investment of East Stand completion) become less toxic if there is revenue return, surely?
43  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: June 22, 2019, 18:20:22 pm
MC Hammer – your lengthy comments directed at me deserve a full reply point by point.

- KT has reduced the wage bill to L2 levels.  What I was saying was supporters should not think that KT is suddenly and generously investing significant new money in the club.  He is not.  DB, the money man, has been to about 3 matches in 3 seasons so he cares deeply about the football club.  Wake up supporters.  KT’s PR machine is good and well oiled, aided by a supplicant and uncritical local media (Chron & BBC).  As I commented, he needs to keep the supporter base quiet whilst he progresses the reason why DB is backing him with funds.  The revised and reduced budget is not too heavy a drain on DB’s resources.  KC has a budget in line with L2 and our current level of support. Nothing more and nothing less.  We all hope KC has used the budget wisely.  But bear in mind the club independent of our owners has its own source of revenue from the EFL, t.v., STHs, sponsorship, ticket sales and so on. That continues regardless of who owns the club.  It is not great but if the club lived within its means it would not go belly up. Certainly, it would increase revenue with more local participation.  Exeter City which has no debt are an example of community ownership. There are others - Wimbledon, Hearts, Motherwell.  So if the club became community owned it would not be starting with a zero bank balance if a sale was completed outside of Administration.

- East Stand realistic outcome?  Not good for us supporters.  KT is in my view uninterested in the stand and devoting his efforts to the CDNL land and development.  With his eye on CDNL profit (the ownership is 50:50 KT/DB whereas KT has reduced his shareholding in Ventures from 22.5% to 10%) the less he can get away with on East Stand expenditure the better from the perspective of his bank account.  But should I worry when KT assures us he is always acting in the “best interests’ of the club? Answer, I worry.  As to what would be the outcome of the East Stand under community ownership – it could hardly be worse than the shell that awaits us once more at the start of next season.  Much would depend on the make-up of the community owners if that ever happened.  But, as I see it, your question is academic.  The Council are not going to give the nod to KT on CDNL development unless he completes the East Stand and only then with outline planning consent can he sell CDNL or actually undertake development. I have no idea what our owners intend but I suggest the former is more likely than the latter.

- The contradiction.  There is none.  KT committed to completing the East Stand and on the back of that promise/understanding, call it what you may, he was allowed by NBC to buy the club for £1.00 and with it £10.5 million of debt was forgiven.  KT stated publicly that about £4 million was available. The Council was totally deficient in not making that a legally binding obligation.  I could say more on that subject but there’s no point.  In my book it would not be a gift from our owners but the fulfilment of an obligation.  Of course, the cost of completing the stand will add to the debt but on the other side of the balance sheet it will also provide an increased asset value to NTFC.  On plans it is past time for KT to make these available to us all. Why he is ducking this?  I can tell you that what he has shown to Trust directors I am told would not enable a contractor to proceed to finish the stand.

- Your comments about the Trust using this to “flush” out KT are il-informed and well wide of the truth.  As to the Trust trying and failing to raise discontent amongst the wider fan base, your comments are an absolute disgrace.  You need to back up comments like this with hard evidence.

- You miss the point I was making by a mile.  Ask yourself who stands to gain from any enabling development.  It is not NTFC or any future club owners who will benefit.  Any development would be on CDNL land. KT is refusing to sign the legal document to restore the NTFC/CDNL boundary to what it should be if it was not for an error by the Council. So, leasehold land right up to the rear of the East Stand, bar a small footprint, “belongs to” CDNL and any development profit would go direct to CDNL and not the club whether it is by the sale of plots or future rental income. The club and with it the supporters stand to miss out unless you believe the ever generous KT/DB are going to decide otherwise.  I don’t for a moment think so.

- I am only aware of discussions between the Trust and prospective partners in a community ownership scheme in general terms but the idea that the Trust should disclose any details about such initial discussions is plainly ludicrous and you know that.

- The risk of the stadium being surrounded by non-football related development is high, extremely high.  The consequences are just as you say. That is a good reason alone for you to get behind the Trust and support its effort at resisting what is in progress rather than making some of the unwise comments that you have posted today about the Trust.

- The ACV status is not a “material consideration” NBC has to take into account if a formal planning application is made.  That is not going to happen unless KT is given what I describe as the “nod” from NBC.  So, in these circumstances object though the Trust and others would object to the application the Council would in all probability exercise its discretion to disregard the ACV status.

Reading through all the previous posts, got to say, with you totally on the above. All points addressed well fella!
44  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: June 22, 2019, 18:04:04 pm

Are you laughing in French or English?
45  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Carabao Cup 2019/20 on: June 22, 2019, 17:58:31 pm
Good job it was regionalised to avoid a long journey.
Might struggle to get time off for this...clearly a stopover.
Never been the Liberty Stadium, though have seen the Cobbs at the Vetch two or three times!
46  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: 2019/20 kit? on: June 21, 2019, 14:31:05 pm
Except possibly going back to white shirt with claret shorts ?
Anything but yellow for the away kit though .
Yes, yellow so so ubiquitous! Half joking months back, but actually think a bottle green with maybe claret trim would be smart!
47  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: June 19, 2019, 13:36:20 pm
Bury's winding up order, scheduled for today has been adjourned for six weeks.
Is their situation basically similar to ours?
Reliance on a single benefactor to provide up front funds from another outside source to maintain the day to day running of the club?
Theirs was great until that outside source dried up?

Dale at Bury has continually blamed the previous owners for the financial mess they are in, whilst using his personal health problems to garnish sympathy!
48  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Carabao Cup 2019/20 on: June 19, 2019, 13:32:59 pm
So we are number 21 in the southern section for tomorrows draw.  I have a small programme on my computer which will make random draws. Just for fun I entered in the teams and their ball numbers into it and pressed the button.  We came out at home to Birmingham City.  That will do I suppose!!!   
Or even Coventry City at St Andrews would be ok!
49  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Opening day fixture on: June 17, 2019, 12:50:30 pm
Exeter City away please!

Remember opening day fixture down at Exeter around 84/85 time. The (not so) great Peter Gleasure in goal, as the Grecians hit five past us - without reply!
Now, if we'd had Cornell... Grin
50  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Welcome - Steve Arnold on: June 11, 2019, 18:45:31 pm
You were not at Morecombe; you admitted this yourself. From memory Cornell saved us from a heavier defeat. Against FGR he played well; you clearly left at half time! Stop sitting on the fence and come out agains Cornell.
I wasn't at 'Morecombe', must have missed it...where is it, near Ilfracombe?
51  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Welcome Back - Ryan Watson on: June 05, 2019, 16:56:50 pm
This is for Coolcat, as he loves a welcome thread  Tongue

Let's hope Ryan's stay is a successful one. On paper a decent signing. Another to be announced today?
In St Louis and Kansas City at the feel free!  Grin
52  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Support from Sweden on: May 31, 2019, 16:07:58 pm
who is the biggest legend in Northampton?  Smiley
Biggest? Akinfenwa obviously!  Grin
53  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Support from Sweden on: May 30, 2019, 10:24:08 am
Good old Råsunda days... miss that stadium. It was our home stadium but all the derbys played there since it was way too Dangerous to have derbys on hammarbys and djurgårdens old smaller stadiums. Råsunda was demolished in 2012. We now play in a new arena with 50k attendance,  Also Hammarby have a new stadium now at Södermalm (30k attendance)  which they share with djurgården haha can you imagine?

Yes, the ticket prices here in Sweden are very good! Its a disgrace how expensive
It is at some Places in the UK. Football teams are like companies here and clubs seems to forget how important the fans are. Lots and lots of passion here though, and i love it!

That's interesting about Hammarby/Djugården stadium share. Sodermalm is strong Hammarby territory, but isn't Djugården way out towards the zoo area?

Just for our entertainment, can you spell out AIK in's rather long isn't it?  Grin
54  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Support from Sweden on: May 29, 2019, 19:56:33 pm
sxcobbler, Thanks! and I will defintately look into the supporters trust! yeah, i love away games  Wink.

Coolcat, wow, sounds great! i would love to get a tour like that when i travel for my first game!

My team in Sweden is AIK (also Stockholm team) so both Djurgården and Hammarby are our biggest rivals. What did you think when you visited here? the atmopshere is world class right? but the football not so much haha.
Good time around Södermalm both times, then off to the Rasunda. More or less a sellout for both games - 36,000?
Despite Sweden being expensive, the Stockholm derby tickets were only around £12 at the time...British football in general is the most expensive on the planet unfortunately! A ticket at Northampton will be £22!
However, the depth of support is also considerably higher than other countries - Northampton at level 4 still attract an average of around 5000 which is a shade above the normal for this league! 

Black Army!  Wink
55  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Support from Sweden on: May 29, 2019, 19:19:54 pm
Welcome and well done chap!

I brought a couple of Swedish students to Sixfields about five years ago now...good tour of Northampton pubs met a lot of the fans and they bought souvenirs, scarves shirts etc.

Who do you support in Sweden? Have been to Hammarby v Djugården around 10 yrs back, and also Sweden v Latvia after guess Bajen are my club in Sweden!  Wink
56  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 26, 2019, 20:53:43 pm
Hilarious - you use a word like Eytmology and call other people smug and arrogant.

Over the years i’ve had the occasional spat with a number of posters but never resorted (or indeed have they) to the use of words of insult one would not use in polite company (or indeed without the veiled protection of a keyboard from a far off place)

Sadly to me you simply come across as a rather silly, opinionated and impolite individual who feels the need to insult anyone who either disagrees with you or posts in a manner you consider incorrect or wrong - irrespective of its “etymological” origin I personally feel the wording of those insults are unnecessary but of course feel free to continue if it helps your self esteem.

Intelligent debate, differing views and even some lighthearted nonsense in French all work to make a message board interesting - gratuitous crude insults don’t, and referencing another thread probably why a number of skilled wordsmiths and genuine wits no longer participate.
No, you used the words 'smug' and 'arrogant'. I merely pointed out that your own words ironically describe yourself to a tee!
Also ironic that you call Beds up on reading through his posts and then post the above!

As for sensible debate, yes. However, you assume there should be a level of respect...I have none for you, nor do I particularly care if you walk under a bus quite frankly!
57  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: NTFC Ladies on: May 26, 2019, 12:20:33 pm
So which league will they be in now? Which teams will they be playing, and all home games at Sixfields?
58  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: NTFC Ladies on: May 26, 2019, 12:18:28 pm
Seriously? My missus is in her forties, and she still enjoys a night out with the girls.
You don't remember Page's departing speech at Bristol Rovers? Grin
59  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Songs for JJOT on: May 26, 2019, 10:56:22 am
John Joe O'Toole, I wanna be like yooo, I wanna walk like you, talk like you, I do I do I do!
Good when got some of us going at Oxford and Bristol Rovers away, amongst others!
60  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: May 25, 2019, 13:13:25 pm
No - what’s pathetic is a supposed grown up using terms like “Dick”, “twat” etc about other posters.

If you disagree try using proper English rather than you overbearing smug arrogant attitude laced with playground insults.
Dick and twat are both 'proper' English...whatever you might mean by that! Eytmology not your strong point?

As for, arrogant and smug...think few who know me would ever describe me as such, yet ironically, you come across as amongst the most smug and arrogant on this board!
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