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41  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / All time league placings based on attendance on: May 04, 2020, 10:39:21 am
Interesting article from Stoke Live.

The Cobblers make it to League One, coming in at 72nd place with an all time average of just shy of 12,000.
Incidentally, four places below Oxford United, who in these parts, are forever saying they are so much bigger than us! They are just over the 13,000 mark in their long illustrious history - since 1962!

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-average-attendance-history-4100242
42  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: May 03, 2020, 14:39:42 pm
On this day, the oft mentioned in previous posts, Roker Park closed for the final time...

https://twitter.com/theawayfans/status/1256918448208297984?s=09
43  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: May 02, 2020, 16:10:17 pm
May 2nd on this day in history.......

32 years ago today.....32 years! The end of season trip to Sunderland, where, from memory Eric Gates dived to get a penalty, Tony Adcock scored a cracker for us, and most in a crowd of over 29000 celebrated Sunderlands championship and promotion.

30 years ago today......a goalless boredraw at Tranmere in front of 5,363

Another goalless draw, this time in 1998, as we went to York, over 2000 Cobblers in the crowd of 6,688 that day and we secured our playoff place for the second consecutive season.

11 years ago we travelled to Leeds, Becchio, Beckford and Snodgrass sent us spinning to a 3-0 defeat and relegation to the bottom tier once more. 34,214 were in attendance at Elland Road.

On this day in 2013 the playoffs were underway, Roy O'Donovan's goal giving us a slender 1-0 win over Cheltenham in the first leg at Sixfields, with 6,563 in attendance for that game.

In 2015 the league season ended with a 3-2 home defeat by Wycombe in front of 5,723, we were 2-0 down at the break but levelled in the second half thanks to an own goal and Ryan Cresswells effort five minutes from time, once again the Cobblers contrived to throw it away as Alfie Mawsons injury time winner left us pointless.
Around a 1000 of us crammed into the slender corner of the open terrace. Remember the crowd well - 29,452, was the highest  for a while at Roker Park, nothing beat it until it was replaced by the SoL...24,000 v Sheffield Wednesday coming closest.
44  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: May 02, 2020, 11:28:19 am
IF the current research proves successful then confirmation byJuly/ August is a small possibility BUT the next task is to manufacture millions of vaccines before any mass gatherings, so unfortunately the end of the year is most likely.......at best!
Yes, that's where Astra Zeneca come into it I guess!
45  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: May 01, 2020, 19:59:48 pm
If i remember rightly the Port Vale game was on a bank holiday, possibly an evening kick off. Some Wolves fans were in the open away terrace with us, hoping we helped them out by winning, which, to everyones  surprise we did.
Was at Bradford for that game, we were in the pub with the home fans having an excellent day, at the end of the game loads of Bradford came over to give us loads of abuse. Some even followed us all the way back to the City centre after the game giving it the big one, they always maintained distance of about 50 yds behind us though, even when the crossing lights were on red.  Grin
 I should also remember the Bury game but for some reason i dont Grin
Remember both the Port Vale and Bradford memories!  Grin
At Vale Park in 89 - yes a Bank Holiday Monday. I'd done a bit of ground hopping and had gone to the Hawthorns for a 3pm k.o. against Pompey. Kindly, a Baggies fan offered me a free ticket for the Birmingham Rd end. I offered him a few quid, but was insistent - his mate hadn't turned up! Then somehow from Smethick Rolfe St to Longport for free. Yes, few Wolves in our end, as you said. 2-1 win and a lift home. Soft spot for Albion for a few years after that! 

Must have been with your group re-Bradford that dodgy day! Three of us had Indian buffet later...decent, as was the not so Indian background music of the Stone Roses and Oasis!  Grin
46  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: May 01, 2020, 14:26:05 pm
Farm labourers wages increased following the Black Death for the very reason you suggest (labour shortage). Mind you the Black Death (roughly 1348 to 1350 on this island) reduced the population by between 30% and 45%. Just to make things worse the plague returned intermittently from 1361 right into the early years of the 15th Century.

Imagine the horror of this.
Try avoiding this term...Afua Hirsch will have kittens!
Bubonic (or Bionic as predicted text tried for) Plague please!  Tongue
47  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: May 01, 2020, 13:01:19 pm
The main restriction will be social distancing until a vaccine is widely available. Therefore no fans in grounds until then!

The boss of Astra Zeneca has backed the Oxford University research and said a possible vaccine by the END OF THE YEAR!
  

I think matches could restart byAugust, with regular testing for players, but obviously behind closed doors.

The problem might be what teams will be in busiuness to restart?
By the end of July is now being mooted. Tests on the Mansfield Sports paper - Oxford - Specials - Paul Hardcastle hit vaccine in Canada have proven to be successful!
48  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: April 30, 2020, 12:26:39 pm
Ha ha, I think you've misinterpreted what I was saying!

Im not suggesting at all that the restart starts at any particular time. When its safe to do so, basically, whenever that is...

In summary. Im saying that we should finish this season off at a time when football can be safely played, again. How thats achieved, its a long long debate. We will probably know more in the coming weeks/months ahead. Then, if the timing works, have a short break, open the transfer window, allow clubs to re-group, then next season would start...

To avoid the contractual issue (30th June a lot of contracts are up and no club is likely to extend them, not at our level anyway - Salford aside maybe!!)....the footballing bodies use some money to pay for those players to allow clubs to keep hold of them. So when it does restart, the squads at the minute will remain the same, ensuring integrity.

Hope thats cleared that up!

Tad difficult if Mansfield Town involved!
49  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: April 29, 2020, 19:33:45 pm
Boring style of play and boring seasons with nothing riding on them are two separate things!
Hmmm yeees as Jeremy Paxman would say on Spitting Image!  Grin
You're taking things too literally, smell the facetiousness!
Still, the point stands!
50  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: April 29, 2020, 15:50:16 pm
I've been thinking the same, more often than not there has been something to play for, it seems to be the Cobblers way......we don't do "boring"!
'boring' Ironic really that a fair chunk of posters on here have spent the last couple of years offering excuses for not attending...for that exact reason!
51  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: April 29, 2020, 14:04:10 pm
At least I know a few people are reading these posts.....so i'll keep going!!

28th April, and on this day in history.......

A crowd of 2,388 flocked to the County Ground on this day in 1990 to see Graham Carr's Cobblers beat Huddersfield by a goal to nil. We were in what would now be League 1 and it seems the 2000 crowds were commonplace towards the end of this season, one which saw us relegated to the fourth tier and one which brought about the end of Carrs stint in charge.

Back in the 4th Division in 1992 the last game of that season took place at Edgar Street where a whopping 1,294 turned out for a dead rubber game, Cobblers winning 2-1. This was the season of administration and mass sackings, as Phil Chard and his young charges at least ended the season on a high and a 16th place finish.

On this day in 2001 we travelled to Dean Court Bournemouth in the middle of a poor run and we came home on the wrong end of a 2-0 scoreline. The Cherries themselves had won 7 from 8 and were on a playoff charge, ultimately though that ended in failure as they could only draw 3-3 at Reading in the final game, letting a 3-1 lead slip and Readings third goal two minutes from the end in front of almost 21000 spectators saw Wigan into the playoffs at Bournemouths expense.
The Bournemouth team that day featured future manager Eddie Howe and Jermain Defoe came off the bench as he neared the end of his 20 goal loan spell.

In 2009 on this day we suffered the first of two defeats which would see us lose our League 1 place when it had seemed easier to stay up than be relegated. A crowd of 6,054 (1500 empty seats) saw us go down to MK Dons by a single Aaron Wilbraham goal. Aleksandar Prijovic made one of his three starts for the team in that game, he was replaced in the second half by Leon Constantine! Adam Watts also came off the bench for us (who?Huh?), the young Fulham loanee also made three starts that season.

This day 8 years ago brought the final home game of our League 2 campaign with Aidy Boothroyd now steering the Cobblers ship. The game against Gillingham ended in a 1-1 draw with Lewis Wilson scoring his only goal in Cobblers colours. Current Cobbler Joe Martin played in that game for the Gills, as did a young Paulo Gazzaniga in goal, him of current Tottenham fame. 5,832 hardy souls turned out for a game which meant nothing to the Cobblers, but went a long way towards ending Gillinghams playoff hopes as they finished the season a game later just two points shy of Crewe with a better goal difference.

Its two years to the day since 2000 Cobblers fans travelled to The Bescot Stadium, our team coming off back to back wins and the great escape from relegation back to Leauge 2 looking possible when all had seemed lost a couple of weeks before.
We were still down in 22nd place, but only two points behind Oldham, Walsall and Rochdale, knowing that we'd at least overtake Walsall with a win and take things into the last game. As it was George Dobsons injury time winner sent the majority of the near 9000 crowd into raptures, we were down, they stayed up and the rest they say is history!


Think I was at all those games. What sticks out in memory of the rather dead end of season rubber against Huddersfield were two rather fit Terriers girls coming out of the Spion Kop, resplendent in their full Huddersfield kits!  Grin
52  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Ex-League teams we have played! on: April 28, 2020, 20:04:31 pm
Of those teams ,I think they have had a total of 34 grounds between them, Barnet 2, Bradford PA 2, Chester 2, Chesterfield 2, Darlo 2, Yeovil 2 and R&D 3 (Irthlingborough, Hayden Rd and then Nene Park) Not sure about Maidstone, didn't they play at Dartford ?
   The only ones I haven't been to are Barrow, Maidstone and Yeovil's old ground, I've been to both Bradford PA's grounds, saw the Cobblers at the old (League) ground and went to where they play now for a mid week pre season friendly when I was working up there a few years ago.
Been to Dartford (Maidstone Utd) for the Cobblers' 2-0 win there. Been Maidstone in Maidstone also.

Forgot Rushden was on list...so rising to 21!  Cheesy
53  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Ex-League teams we have played! on: April 28, 2020, 13:07:50 pm
20, though have been to Southport, back around 85 season on a Boxing Day (derby v Marine!) Cobblers lost at home to Posh 3-0 or 4-1 I think.

Hoping (or was) for Barrow next season.
Never did make Kidderminster with the Cobblers (nor Oxford City for that matter), living abroad when we played them.

Would welcome back Halifax, the Three Pigeons up the hill and a good day out in West Yorks!
54  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: April 27, 2020, 08:49:37 am
I remember the Crewe game not being the game to clinch it, although that win meant Preston could only match our points at that stage. Checking the records it appears Prestons failure to beat Peterbrough at home on 2nd May confirmed the title before we played Cardiff.
The Crewe game was the mass celebration on the pitch, with all the players and champagne out...Preston needed to have won by thirteen goals to have had any chance if I remember!
The (not so) great Dario Grady commented after the Crewe game that "I don't drink other people's champagne" when offered!
55  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: On this day on: April 26, 2020, 20:27:48 pm
Went to the Lincoln game, unbelievable own goal from Chard that day, we took a lot of fans for that game. Lincoln thought that the win would be enough for them to stay up, but they went down on the last day. Dont think we would have won the league with a win though, wasnt the title confirmed a couple of games later at Cardiff ?
Crewe at home  with a 2-1 win infront of 8,800.
Cardiff was a fairly damp squib (2-2?) with only a few hundred Cobblers fans at Ninian...including 30 odd NAT staying over in Barry Island for the Bank holiday and some ringing up and getting onto Radio Caroline on the Sunday night.
Four or five Cardiff infiltrated the away end, all kicking off prior to k.o. Other than that, rather uneventful!  Wink
56  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: April 24, 2020, 15:07:56 pm
Does anyone know if we can get 80% refunds from our now seemingly redundant FGR, Crewe, Cambridge et-al away tickets?  Tongue
57  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: How to end the Season..... on: April 23, 2020, 16:04:26 pm
So the National League teams (Premier and North & South Divisions) have voted to end their season now with no further league games taking place. They have not however voided the season and are still in discussions about promotion and relegation including playoffs. Good for Brackley Town to know they still have a chance of promotion!

NO decision can be made though as we don't know what is going on with the EFL. Obviously if the EFL void the season and everyone stays up that means that probably only Barrow would be offered Bury's place in League 2 for next season...unless the EFL want to go with 23 again!
Desperately want Barrow to come up into League Two. Dodgy place by all accounts but eagerly waiting to get up there!

See Notts County are fuming with the decision, while self preservation kicked in with their cross county neighbours, Chesterfield, who voted to void season...along with every other club in danger of the drop!
58  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: League Two: Average away attendances 2019/20 on: April 23, 2020, 11:50:21 am
Contrasting away supports from local League One clubs...

Posh - 734
MK Dons - 366
Oxford Utd - 904
Wycombe - 660
Coventry City - 1,825
59  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Latest from KT on: April 22, 2020, 19:19:48 pm
There is no reason why any football club should be in financial trouble. It is only the insatiable appetite for success by fans and owners or fans that is no checked by owners that causes clubs to **** and spend beyond their means. This will never go away.
You sure this applies to Cobblers fans?  Grin
60  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Latest from KT on: April 22, 2020, 15:05:43 pm
Sorry I thought  there had been discussions about it.
 Not just one person from a Northern team who doesn't fancy going down south on a cold tuesday night in February.  Maybe he should take his team back to the National League North.
Yes, a Tuesday night at Brackley, Gloucester or Hereford should sort him out!  Grin
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