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The Hotel End / Travel/NTFC Supporters Ltd. / Teyn Away Days - August 2025 Trips/Details
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on: July 08, 2025, 13:51:07 pm
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To book call/message Jim or Dave - 07983558013
Wigan (£25) Saturday 02nd August Planned lunch stop – St Helens Departure times Blackthorn 7.40 Weston Favell Centre 7.45 Trumpet 7.50 County Tavern 7.55 White Elephant /Old Romany 8.00 Cock Hotel 8.05 Bants Lane 8.10 Sixfields 8.15
Stevenage (£20) Saturday 16th August Planned lunch stop – Letchworth Departure times Sixfields 9.45 Bants Lane 9.50 Cock Hotel 9.55 White Elephant /Old Romany 10.00 County Tavern 10.05 Trumpet 10.10 Weston Favell Centre 10.15 Blackthorn 10.20
Leyton Orient (£20) Saturday 30th August Planned lunch stop – Stratford Departure times Blackthorn 8.25 Weston Favell Centre 8.30 Trumpet 8.35 County Tavern 8.40 White Elephant /Old Romany 8.45 Cock Hotel 8.50 Bants Lane 8.55 Sixfields 9.00
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General Category / General Chat / Re: Eurovision and Israel
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on: May 18, 2025, 11:15:01 am
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Eurovision is quite a thing in our house because my son is obsessed by it. Personally I've no interest in the music but I do quite like watching the voting because, despite the oft quoted mantra about it not being political, the voting is at least 70% politically and ideologically motivated.
A case in point was last night where Israel were polling badly from the juries (with every point they were given soundly booed by the audience) but surged to the top when their public votes were revealed.
This caused much consternation in our living room with an outraged rant from my son that it's because most people are bigots who want to see Muslims killed (along with some bizarre conspiracy theory about Israel giving out free SIM cards in other countries in return for votes, but to be fair he'd had a few by then)
It's easy to account for the jury voting; they are mostly comprised of artsy fartsy Guardianista types who will always lean in one way.
The public voting is more interesting though and I'm intrigued by what the real motivations were.
Of course, it could have been apolitical and people just liked the song. (I can't comment on this as I was watching the Dongs get humiliated in the other room until the voting started. My son said it was rubbish but I suspect there were some blinkers on there as he's also one of the aforementioned Guardianista types)
It's also possible it was a political decision to show approval for Israel's actions in Gaza (I can't see it, but it's possible)
It could have been sympathy for a young girl who was clearly in a very difficult and unpleasant position.
Or it might have been a reflexive kickback to all the furore and protests in the build up. People don't like being told what they should think and reacted as a two finger salute to the political hijacking of a music competition.
It's likely to be a bit of all these, but personally I think it's predominantly a mixture of the last two.
So am I just overly optimistic about what motivates people or are there lots of bigots out there? Or has everyone been given a free SIM card...?
What do you guys think?
Whatever the reason was it was emulated in the final as well with Israel nearly winning it - (they won the public vote again in the same manner as the Semi final.) I clearly know nothing about music as I had the Austrian winner in my bottom 5!
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS - *RESULTS* 2024-2025 Season
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on: May 13, 2025, 19:36:39 pm
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After the application of the last two matches we now have our POTS winners
PLAYER OF THE SEASONJOHN GUTHRIE with runner up Aaron McGowan
HOME PLAYER OF THE SEASONTYLER ROBERTS with runner up Tariq Fosu
AWAY PLAYER OF THE SEASONJOHN GUTHRIE with runner up Dara Costelloe
AUG- DEC PLAYER OF THE SEASONJOHN GUTHRIE with runner up Cameron Mcgeehan
JAN- MAY PLAYER OF THE SEASONAARON MCGOWANwith runner up Dara Costelloe
Many thanks for everyone's participation - Have a great summer
FINAL OVERALL POTS TABLE
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 20.33 01 13 50 McGowan 17.33 04 07 40 Guinness-Walker 17.33 05 08 41 Costelloe 17.25 03 09 35 Roberts 16.83 02 10 38 Pinnock 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 13.66 02 09 27 McGeehan 13.50 02 07 32 Taylor 13.50 03 06 30 Fosu 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 19 Balding 10.83 02 06 29 Dyche 10.41 01 08 30 Hoskins 08.16 01 08 18 Perry 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 07.00 02 03 18 Burge 06.41 01 04 17 Mbete 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.66 01 04 15 Eyoma 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.50 00 03 09 Odimayo 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Crawley (a) 26th April 2025
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on: April 25, 2025, 22:53:22 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday
Charlton summary
Costelloe received 5 votes and scores 3 points McGowan received 4 votes and scores 2 points Perry & Roberts received 1 vote and score 0.5 points
Shrewsbury Summary
Costelloe received 13 votes and scores 3 points McGowan & Taylor received 4 votes and scores 1.5 points
Overall POTS table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 20.33 01 13 50 McGowan 17.25 03 09 35 Roberts 16.83 02 10 38 Pinnock --------------------------------------------------- 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.33 03 06 33 Guinness-Walker 14.33 04 07 39 Costelloe 13.66 02 09 27 McGeehan 13.50 02 07 32 Taylor 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.83 02 06 29 Dyche 10.50 03 04 18 Balding 10.41 01 08 30 Hoskins 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.41 01 04 17 Mbete 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 06.16 01 06 16 Perry 06.00 02 02 17 Burge 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.66 01 04 15 Eyoma 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.50 00 03 09 Odimayo 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS Shrewsbury (h) 21st April 2025
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on: April 25, 2025, 22:42:13 pm
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Just looking at the table of this and it looks like Jon Guthrie is going to hang on and take the title, which is kind of strange because the story of this season is surely about the 22 games played AFTER he got injured on January 1st. Amazing really.
Its a strange game indeed, Guthrie dominated the POTS votes during the end of the first half of the season and since New Year no one person has doninated instead sharing the load.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Shrewsbury (h) 21st April 2025
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on: April 21, 2025, 11:07:52 am
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Votes in after the match and before @2359 Thursday
Overall POTS Table (excludes Charlton)
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 16.83 02 10 38 Pinnock 16.83 01 11 42 McGowan 16.75 03 08 34 Roberts 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.33 03 06 33 Guinness-Walker 13.66 02 09 27 McGeehan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 12.00 02 06 28 Taylor 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.83 02 06 29 Dyche 10.50 03 04 18 Balding 10.41 01 08 30 Hoskins 08.33 02 05 21 Costelloe 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.41 01 04 17 Mbete 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 06.00 02 02 17 Burge 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.66 01 05 15 Perry 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.66 01 04 15 Eyoma 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.50 00 03 09 Odimayo 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Charlton (a) 18th April 2025
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on: April 18, 2025, 08:15:51 am
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As always votes in after the match and before Thursday
Peterborough summary
Costelloe received 8 votes and scores 3 points Hoskins received 7 votes and scores 2 points Perry, Guinness Walker & Eyoma all received 1 vote and receive 0.33 points
Reading Summary
Perry received 9 votes and scores 3 points Mbete & Taylor received 4 votes and score 1.5 points
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 16.83 02 10 38 Pinnock 16.83 01 11 42 McGowan 16.75 03 08 34 Roberts 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.33 03 06 33 Guinness-Walker 13.66 02 09 27 McGeehan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 12.00 02 06 28 Taylor 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.83 02 06 29 Dyche 10.50 03 04 18 Balding 10.41 01 08 30 Hoskins ------------------------------------------- 08.33 02 05 21 Costelloe 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.41 01 04 17 Mbete 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 06.00 02 02 17 Burge 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.66 01 05 15 Perry 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.66 01 04 15 Eyoma 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.50 00 03 09 Odimayo 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Peterborough (a) 5th April 2025
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on: April 05, 2025, 10:31:00 am
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @1500
Cambridge Summary
Pinnock received 3 votes and scores 3 points McGowan received 2 votes and scores 2 points Hoskins, McGeehan & Dyche received 1 vote and all score 0.33 points
Rotherham Summary
Burge received 7 votes and scores 3 points Balding received 2 votes and scores 2 points Pinnock & Odimayo received 1 vote and scores 0.5 points each
What has this done to the overall table
Pinnock & McGowan are closing in on the top spot as they now hold 2nd and 3rd places in the overall table with them both tied on 16.83 points with Pinnock taking second based on more actual POTM. They are now just 5 points away from the injured long time leader of Guthrie.
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 16.83 02 10 38 Pinnock 16.83 01 11 42 McGowan 16.75 03 08 34 Roberts 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.66 02 09 27 McGeehan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.83 02 06 29 Dyche 10.50 03 04 18 Balding 10.50 02 05 24 Taylor 08.41 01 07 23 Hoskins 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 06.00 02 02 17 Burge 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.33 01 04 13 Costelloe 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.50 00 03 09 Odimayo 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 03 05 Perry 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Rotherham (h) 1st April 2025
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on: March 30, 2025, 23:05:10 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Overall POTS Table (not including Cambridge)
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 16.75 03 08 34 Roberts 14.83 01 10 40 McGowan 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 13.33 01 08 34 Pinnock 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.50 02 05 28 Dyche 10.50 02 05 24 Taylor 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 08.08 01 06 22 Hoskins 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.33 01 04 13 Costelloe 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 03.00 00 02 08 Odimayo 02.33 00 03 05 Perry 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Cambridge (a) 29th March 2025
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on: March 29, 2025, 10:28:04 am
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Blackpool Summary
Roberts received 4 votes and scores 3 points Perry & Hoskins received 3 votes and both score 1.5 points McGowan received 1 vote but no score
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 16.75 03 08 34 Roberts 14.83 01 10 40 McGowan 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 13.33 01 08 34 Pinnock 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.50 02 05 28 Dyche 10.50 02 05 24 Taylor 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 08.08 01 06 22 Hoskins 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.33 01 04 13 Costelloe 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 03.00 00 02 08 Odimayo 02.33 00 03 05 Perry 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Blackpool (h) 22nd March 2025
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on: March 22, 2025, 12:03:16 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Birmingham summary
Dyche receives 7 votes and scores 3 points McGowan receives 6 votes and scores 2 points Costelloe receives 4 votes and scores 1 points Hoskins receives 2 votes but no points Magloire receives 1 vote but no points
What has this done to the overall table
Following several for Player of the Match at the Birmingham game, Dyche has emerged as the top player, with McGowan as the runner-up. This means that McGowan is in the top three of the POTS, sitting in second place behind long-time table topper Guthrie, remains six points clear despite being injured.
Eaves has moved to third place, while Guinness-W has dropped out of the top three
Overall POTS table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 14.83 01 10 39 McGowan 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.75 02 07 30 Roberts 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 13.33 01 08 34 Pinnock 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.50 02 05 28 Dyche 10.50 02 05 24 Taylor 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 06.58 01 05 19 Hoskins 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.33 01 04 13 Costelloe 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 03.00 00 02 08 Odimayo 02.33 00 02 04 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne 00.83 00 02 02 Perry
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The 'Clare Balding' POTS Birmingham (h) 15th March 2025
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on: March 15, 2025, 13:24:45 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Leyton Summary
Roberts received 10 votes and scores 3 points Taylor received 4 votes and scores 2 points Costelloe, Pinnock & Perry received 1 vote and score 0.33 points each
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.75 02 07 30 Roberts 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 13.33 01 08 34 Pinnock 12.83 01 09 33 McGowan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.50 02 05 24 Taylor 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 07.50 01 04 21 Dyche 06.58 01 05 17 Hoskins 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.33 01 03 09 Costelloe 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 03.00 00 02 08 Odimayo 02.33 00 02 03 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne 00.83 00 02 02 Perry
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The ‘Clare Balding’ Pots 2024-25 - Leyton Orient (a) March 8th 2025
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on: March 08, 2025, 08:23:42 am
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Exeter summary
Costelloe received 3 votes and scores 3 points Magloire received 2 votes and scores 2 points Perry & Taylor received 1 vote and both score 0.5 points
Stockport summary
Taylor received 7 votes and scores 3 points Odimayo received 5 votes and scores 2 points Pinnock received 3 votes and scores 1 point
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 13.00 01 07 33 Pinnock 12.83 01 09 33 McGowan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.75 01 06 20 Roberts 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 08.50 02 04 20 Taylor 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 07.50 01 04 21 Dyche 06.58 01 05 17 Hoskins 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 04.00 01 02 08 Costelloe 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 00 02 08 Odimayo 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 02.33 00 02 03 Magloire 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne 00.50 00 01 01 Perry
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The ‘Clare Balding’ Pots 2024-25 - Exeter (a) March 1st 2025
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on: February 28, 2025, 22:31:03 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Monday @2100
Barnsley Summary
Hoskins received 7 votes and scores 3 points Taylor received 3 votes and scores 2 points Costelloe received 2 votes and scores 1 point Pinnock received 1 vote but no score
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 12.83 01 09 33 McGowan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 12.00 01 06 30 Pinnock 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.75 01 06 20 Roberts 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 07.50 01 04 21 Dyche 06.58 01 05 17 Hoskins 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 05.00 01 02 12 Taylor 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 01.00 00 01 03 Odimayo 01.00 00 01 05 Costelloe 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne 00.33 00 01 01 Magloire
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / The ‘Clare Balding’ Pots 2024-25 - Barnsley (h) February 25th
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on: February 25, 2025, 14:24:07 pm
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Votes in after the match and before Thursday @2359
Bristol Rovers Summary
Taylor receives 8 votes and scores 3 points Shaw receives 5 votes and scores 2 points Dyche receives 3 votes and scores 1 point Costelloe receives 2 votes but no score Pinnock receives 1 vote but no score
Overall POTS Table
POINTS. POTM. POD. VOTES. PLAYER 21.83 05 10 45 Guthrie 14.75 04 07 25 Eaves 14.00 03 05 32 Guinness-Walker 13.33 02 08 26 McGeehan 12.83 01 09 33 McGowan 12.00 03 05 27 Tzanev 12.00 01 06 29 Pinnock 11.50 03 05 27 Fosu 10.75 01 06 20 Roberts 08.50 03 03 16 Balding 07.50 01 04 25 Shaw 07.50 01 04 21 Dyche 06.33 02 03 13 Baldwin 06.16 01 03 06 McCarron 05.75 02 03 13 Morton 05.25 00 04 10 Fox 05.00 01 02 06 Dobson 04.91 01 03 13 Mbete 04.50 01 02 08 Willis 04.33 01 03 14 Eyoma 04.00 01 02 07 Hondermarck 03.99 00 03 12 Chouchane 03.58 00 04 10 Hoskins 03.33 01 02 05 Licorish_Mullins 03.00 01 01 10 Burge 03.00 01 01 09 Taylor 03.00 01 01 05 Tomlinson 01.00 00 01 03 Odimayo 01.00 00 01 01 Waghorne 00.33 00 01 01 Magloire
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