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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Disappearing Punters? on: Yesterday at 10:17:25
The question is....did anyone really buy a flute?



Nah, it was an Irish penny whistle Grin
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Disappearing Punters? on: Yesterday at 00:59:25
Agree...Most of West stand do nothing about getting an atmosphere going..but then again the POSH and IRA songs are moronic...
North Stand is also embarrassing..make it a tenner to get in,
and don't start me on the east stand, even though the atmosphere is better then most Grin

So what would you prefer they sing?
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Disappearing Punters? on: Yesterday at 00:57:40
I have a cunning plan!

Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are?
The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields.
Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium!
Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  Tongue

Nah, won't work. If they're utter c***s they'll already have season tickets at London Road. Wink
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: February 05, 2019, 17:03:02 pm
There are two problems there (at least);
1. The current Board don't seem too keen on investing in the team - they are not Cobblers supporters remember. They probably want a balanced budget, not an optimistic one.
2. Season Ticket sales may not hold up. The Board would spot this BEFORE investing in the team.

Honestly, I'll be amazed if season ticket sales hold up.
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 05, 2019, 16:59:42 pm
This in itself shows how easy it is for those who so clearly go about things so illegally, to go about their day to day 'business'.

The press cant say anything, you cant talk about it on a forum, you get warned if you put anything on twitter/facebook etc. Indeed there is no outlet that can name and shame anybody these days without the fear of repercussion or nanny state type moderating.

Lets be clear here. Its those reasons, that we are where we are today. People were trying to expose certain individuals and every time hit a brick wall in doing so, meaning that the masses didn't believe anything until it was too late. I do accept that the opposite would be a vigilante society, but even so, in our little world of claret and white, its *frustrating*!

I also understand why as moderators, you have to do what you do. But Id love to put stuff on here about certain individuals from the not too distant past, because for me there is so much telling evidence (or at least evidence that wrong doing occurred)  but for some reason no one has been criminally brought to justice. Fingers crossed that it all comes out at some point and we can type all kinds of sh1t until our hands are aching!  Grin





Well said, Drilling. Of course we have to be fair and give Howard Grossman the chance of a hearing before laying out any judgement on his character. After all, he may just be an incompetent businessman rather than a s***ebag criminal mastermind.  Lips Sealed
ETA: I base the assertion of 'incompetence' around his ties to more than a dozen failed & liquidated businesses... of course, he may just have been unlucky in his many business dealings.
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 13:48:43 pm
Iíd say picking up a going concern for a £1 albeit with tax bill etc to settle is an easy win particularly when you can negotiate a debt settlement along the way.
That the club footprint is 11 acres also helps and then the inside track on all matters CDNL / First Land that delivers information and direct contact to the administrators to allow CVA to be agreed thus avoiding forfeiture of the leases to the big parcel of adjoining land back to NBC.

Apart from that I have no idea.

 Wink
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 13:47:17 pm
The same as everyone else really. List of issues discussed :

* Seems like a bit of a fire sale?
*Rumours of money troubles?
*Lack of action on the East Stand?
*Are you just a "land grabber" or whatever the term people use?
* Did you earn £6millon from 5USport and what happened?
*Why is there no mid to long term vision for the ground?
* Some large discussions about players, the Trust, fans, managers (ex and current) and of course DC.
* A long discussion about the positive work going on at the club and the positive changes

 It's very easy to get caught up in negativity, especially when you read this forum and that's what happened with me, so I wanted to find out for myself.

The concerns I personally had were satisfied by the answers the chairman gave and the way he backed up his answers with hard proof. 

I wanted answers, I sought them, I got them. I wasn't the only one this week either.

It's really not that hard if you care that much, that's just my opinion. Also I'm quite happy to take flak and for people to suggest I've been brainwashed etc it's water off a ducks back and the beauty of the world we live in is that everyone is entitled to their view and everyone is allowed an opinion - I just dont get the abuse that goes on, on both sides of the argument, at the end of the day we all are connected by one thing, the Cobblers, and we all want the best for the Cobblers. Just because people have a different view doesn't mean they're an idiot, they're naive or they're a clown. The world is a nasty enough place without all of us turning on each other! I can understand people's concerns and I some of those concerns are probably exacerbated by the whole DC saga.

The more fans pull together the better IMO as it's only going to benefit the club - looking into more fan involvement with the club like the Trust are doing is a fantastic start and my ultimate wish is that the Trust become an open, honest, fully inclusive group that helps drive positive change - they seem to be making some baby steps towards this (That's not a dig btw, it's meant as a positive) and that can only be a good thing.

I love the Cobblers, they've been the one constant in my life and they've helped me get through some tough times by simply being able to go and watch them and take my mind off stuff for 90 minutes. Whatever people choose to say about the Cobblers, they're a bloody good football club and that's something we shouldn't lose sight of. We are so very good at concentrating on the negatives, especially here in Northampton as we **** love a moan don't we?




Firstly, thanks for taking the time to respond. Two things though: What exactly was the hard proof he provided to reassure you all is well? Also, it's a bit ridiculous to suggest that everyone with concerns about the current running of the club contact KT directly; the bloke would be inundated. I also doubt he supplied you with anything beyond the stock answers he always offers, because if he'd got anything of substance to say we'd be getting the full bells & whistles with a statement.
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 13:39:43 pm
I have had one question for KT from day one and itís never been answered to my knowledge? That is why did he buy the club? No really, what was the specific motivation and what has changed to make him want to sell? Itís not the most convenient business for him to involve himself in being based in the States and would probably have a detrimental effect on his other interests? Further to this, no one with a level of intelligence goes into something like this on a whim and without a very clear plan and set of objectives, so what were they? Being at Oxford means that this was no learning curve either. I say this without agenda or implied accusation, it has genuinely been a mystery to me from the start and remains that way, for the moment? If it was for the love of football and to be involved in the culture then he probably wouldnít be selling would he? Itís all been baffling me for years, and I donít buy the land grab theory either. Too difficult and messy.

Maybe difficult and messy, but there was a land grab. If you search back far enough through this thread you'll find I outlined exactly what occurred (posted maybe May/June of last year?).
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 13:32:02 pm
This only how I see it, so could be open to scrutiny.
Thomas and co had hoped to secure all the land behind the East earning several millions and would use a few hundred grand fitting out the east, job done sell up and move on, but the council rightly put the skids under this plan, and could only allow half the running track from the cndl leasehold.
Thomas and co, angry at not getting the vast swathes of council owned land started publicly blaming the council for not unconditionally handing over all the valuble council land into the hands of private investors.
The club was used as leverage to secure the deal, for the record I'm glad they didn't get their hands on all the land.
It was at this stage 2 years ago, T&co blamed the council for holding up redevelopment of the east stand only for the Council to call their bluff and told them to get on with it, as nothing was stopping them, remembering they took control with a promise of using £4m for this very purpose.
But to me it seems they were never going to spend a penny of their own money, just a small amount of a massive windfall that now appears to be a lot less than they initially had hoped for.

All suppositions and guess work on my behalf derived from the multiple delays, excuses,  blame apportionment and inactivity over these past 3 years.
Please correct me should I have read things wrongly.

But CDNL have got the leases for vast swathes of council owned land. I'm told this is why NBC have been less than forthcoming.
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Changing One's Mind on: February 02, 2019, 01:14:03 am
Perhaps Terry is right all you have done is voiced an opinion. Becareful who you chose as bedfellows as some of the Redev Chaps have some far out opinions coupled with ego's to match. However they all lack one thing: Money!

Would you kindly restrict all comments referencing the redevelopment to the Redevelopment Thread, thank you! Tongue
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 01:05:42 am
I guarantee if you go and see him he will answer all of those for you.

I'm also pretty sure I didn't promise anything, but you know, facts are not important.

As stated before, I had similar concerns as many,  they've been answered for me - those answers I got may or may not, satisfy others - who knows - I had stuff I wanted answered, I had them answered.

In terms of KT he actually said we could cover some bits on the podcast and said report it as you see fit, if you think I'm a twat then feel free to call me a twat.

Final note, Gareth Willsher said the club is in the best state he has known and it's the most professional he has known it. But, what would he know.

BTW you are also right, we do need to keep that relationship as open as possible with the club but they'd be called out if there was a need.

You've posted something similar a few times over the last couple of days. So, just as a matter of interest, what exactly were the concerns you highlighted regarding NTFC? And how were these issues satisfied?
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: February 02, 2019, 00:56:32 am
Iíll tell you how much they care... If we were in the top three 90% of this debate would disappear overnight.

There is no lower league club that can lay claim to a clear accord within its support. Even the Trust doesnít have the luxury of aunanimous agreement on the way forward. We havenít had a whiff of top level football for 50+ years. We've never had a single board that was universally liked. Nothing has changed at all. Itís just you and a few others believing the stories YOU'VE built 😁. Nobody gave a damn about leases, the council or anything else when Wilder wonders were storming league two.

Youíre poundshop revolutionaries.... Two a penny on the internet.. 😁😁

I think it's far from true to say nobody gave a damn about the Cardozas' shenanigans. Although there was less concern about the leases, mainly because at this stage the council hadn't been 'backdoored' by our current chairman.
And as for poundshop revolutionaries, that's a bit rich given how you used to speak out against Cardoza. Don't get me wrong, I don't currently consider our two recent chairmen to be the same animal; but there are definitely things with this administration that don't sit well, and these need highlighting.
13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: January 31, 2019, 22:58:59 pm
Rumours of financial strife have been greatly exaggerated from what Iíve heard

Is it Bayo? Wink
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: January 31, 2019, 22:03:26 pm
A stupid question but do they actually have to physically sign - I thought it could be done by fax?

Paperwork can be submitted via fax, but it'll still need a signature on it.
15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: January 31, 2019, 21:55:21 pm
I asked KT a direct question when he went on inspiration radio to answer questions, after his fan club stopped asking ridiculous questions about what his favourite pizza toping is, I asked has the land behind the East stand been taken over by private investors so no longer available for the use of NTFC and any future enabling ?
His reply went on and on a bit, but he did  admit  it was annexed into private ownership but that it was never ear marked  to be used for the benefit of ntfc.
So there you have it from the horses mouth.
The radio show was about 3 months ago.



Did he mention that he is one of the private owners? Wink
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: So Many Secrets on: January 31, 2019, 17:51:27 pm
I understand it all and to be honest agree with most of it.

Any particular bits you want me to explain?

You can explain all you want, but Evers still won't get it.
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: January 31, 2019, 17:48:35 pm
No but I hear one is a good sweeper

Boom boom! Grin
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: January 31, 2019, 17:43:30 pm
The transfer department at Sixfields should be on some decent overtime tonight.

Let's hope they're not working on commission.
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs on: January 31, 2019, 16:15:31 pm
This has to be the worst transfer window that I can remember.

It could all still happen... Though probably not.
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: So Many Secrets on: January 31, 2019, 15:53:34 pm

Very good tony opinion rather than insult younare getting the hang of this Shocked
I can answer your statement here.
I have every respect for the trust commitee but as a paying member all I get in the way of contact despite a plethora of off the record meetings are a book of raffle tickets to sell each Christmas.
No email updates
No letters
Nothing.
Thatís what Iím paying for.
To be honest the day the trust gave up their position on the board they should have folded.
They have no influence and do not have to be told anything by the current board

I said the day KT took over and the fan base in general wet itself with excitement that I myself would be very wary of anyone whose takeover was conditional on the trust relinquishing their board position.

Now I get that they will come back withíwe had no choiceí
Ok you did you could have objected to the takeover and the club would have folded.

Instead the trust accepted this condition and have been sidelined.
They only know what the board want them to know and so the paying members as a consequence know bugger all.

I bet Brian lomax would be turning in his grave
He set up the first football trust that is now completely and utterly pointless.

As a member you would think youíd see what was raised who it went to etc
I havenít a clue
Didnít KT get some money off them??

Bloody marvellous
Get sidelined and then give the board money?
Clueless.

Let me reiterate
Well meaning,hard working people but sidelined and in the main clueless.

If KT sold tomorrow and the new incumbent came in and told them they had no board representation theyíd probably agree and give them some cash!!

As it stands there is no need for a trust until such time as they have board representation and can therefore report back on issues within the club to members who pay for the privilege.

So that is where I am with the trust
Brilliant idea when concepted but utterly pointless as it stands.

And you are expecting Evers or Pedj to understand any of this?
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