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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2010, 18:56:08 pm » |
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Rather see Guinan coming on than Herbert, to be frank.
Did you go to the Liverpool game? Just wondered.
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DustCobb
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2010, 18:58:20 pm » |
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Wankers that booed Guinan, wankers. They gave more support to Bayo, an opposing player than one of our own!!!
Sammo has no choice, Guinan is are only striking option on the bench.
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Marvo
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2010, 19:00:33 pm » |
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I don't get why some people boo players, simply because they don't play for us anymore. In one or two cases (Jackman and Coke spring to mind) there is some justification, but players like Guttridge and Bayo don't deserve it. You don't need to whoop, cheer and soil your pants with excitement at seeing them again, but a polite round of applause at the start of the game and possibly as they leave the field is the least they deserve for the memories they have provided us with.
For the time they are on the pitch against us though, for me they should be just another opposition player who should only be booed if they do something in the context of that game to deserve it, like Asamoah's dive a few years ago.
I don't get why some people have a problem with what others choose to do. If they want to boo, let them boo, if they want to cheer, let them cheer, if they want to soil themselves, let them soil themselves. It's a free country, they can do what they want, it's got f*** all to do with anyone else!
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2010, 19:03:47 pm » |
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Did you go to the Liverpool game?
Just wondered.
Yes he made a few good contributions, but in a game like today, I rather have Guinan on than Herbert. Did you go? I remember sitting next to a miserable b*stard
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 19:34:21 pm » |
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Unbelievable!
Surely this isnt any surprise though, these imbeciles which by the sounds of it is 70% of our "support", will just boo without any logic or reasoning behind it.
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dyl
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2010, 19:44:17 pm » |
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I don't get why some people have a problem with what others choose to do. If they want to boo, let them boo, if they want to cheer, let them cheer, if they want to soil themselves, let them soil themselves. It's a free country, they can do what they want, it's got f*** all to do with anyone else!
I will tell you why I have a problem with the people who booed Guinan coming on. I want the Cobblers to win. Does booing a Cobblers player as he comes on to the pitch: a) make the player play better? b) run the risk of affecting the player's confidence and his performance, thereby having an impact on the team's chances? It's not too hard a decision is it? I don't rate Guinan, but when he stepped onto the pitch today I wanted him to play well because if he did it would make a Cobblers win more likely. The chavvy morons who have moved to North Stand this season are seriously getting on my nerves (not everyone who has moved is a chavvy moron btw). So I have a problem with these people booing because I think they were hurting the Cobblers' chances of winning.
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2010, 19:50:43 pm » |
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Just to clear something up - it was definitely booing of Guinan - and it's not the first time.
Don't try and gloss it up as booing the decision etc... it was plain and simple booing of Guinan.
For what it's worth, my opinion is that i can't see it working out for him at the club. The penalty at Anfield summed it all up.
I don't think he's a bad player and i think he always puts a half decent shift in, but i just don't think it will work out.
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Gibbo
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2010, 19:54:29 pm » |
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Well I was booing, but I was booing Gilligan not Super Steve
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2010, 19:57:14 pm » |
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Disgraceful, why would anyone boo their own player?!? Its just madness, what are people hoping to achieve by doing this? Its not good for guinan, its not good for the other players. The only thing it can do, is spur on the opposition!
Complete madness
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Gibbo
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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2010, 19:59:05 pm » |
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Whilst that is very true, it does make me feel better.
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NTFC Nut
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2010, 19:59:15 pm » |
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The booing of Bayo was unfair and uncalled for- although he did get a cheer before kick-off wich he seemed to appreciate. The booing of Guinan was an utter disgrace. I don't rate the guy at all but for f***'s sake, he's one of our own (until someone comes in for him anyway) and he gives it his best. He celebrated as wildly as anyone at Liverpool and looked as gutted as anyone when Hereford went ahead (head in his hands) despite being a Hereford fan for Christ's sake. So don't tell me his heart's not in it or he doesn't care. The booing just seems to be because he's an old workhorse and past his best. Is that his fault?
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tcobb
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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2010, 19:59:31 pm » |
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Funny how it seems ok to boo a player coming off the pitch but not one coming on ! I dont care if people boo,cheer or whatever they feel like, but it seems in this PC world your not allowed to show any dissent,and then some of you wonder why its so sterile at games these days.
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TheBigPicture
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« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2010, 20:01:58 pm » |
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Whilst that is very true, it does make me feel better.
Ive gotta say, that made me laugh abit.
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DustCobb
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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2010, 20:06:20 pm » |
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Didn't see the problem booing 'Sir' Bayo today! He was trying to score the goals to beat our team.
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NTFC Nut
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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2010, 20:08:02 pm » |
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Didn't see the problem booing 'Sir' Bayo today! He was trying to score the goals to beat our team.
Why not boo every single Gillingham player then? Bayo was singled out, and he was singled out because of his links with us.
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DustCobb
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2010, 20:10:29 pm » |
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Yep generally ex players get booed, especially the good uns, happened for years, always will do, its a bit of fun isn't it.
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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2010, 20:10:45 pm » |
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How about instead of booing the Guinans and Bayos of the world we instead cheer on OUR team. We are supporters after all.
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TheBigPicture
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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2010, 20:25:03 pm » |
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Funny how it seems ok to boo a player coming off the pitch but not one coming on ! I dont care if people boo,cheer or whatever they feel like, but it seems in this PC world your not allowed to show any dissent,and then some of you wonder why its so sterile at games these days.
I'm certainly not against booing, my gripe is more aimed at WHY people feel they need to boo a certain player. It's just plainly wrong to boo Steve Guinan based soley because they feel he has nothing to offer, although i'm all for it if he's coming on and not putting a shift in and looking uninterested. In Bayo's case i just don't get it, he did more than his fair share whilst he was here, carrying the club with his goals when it looked liked he could barely carry himself, when HE didnt play WE didnt play. I wouldnt go as far as calling him a legend but he was a cult figure at this club, so the lack of respect shown to him today is outright shameful in my book.
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2010, 20:28:10 pm » |
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The Guinan booing was out of order consdering there is a mindless element to it, but it does amuse me how whenever an ex-player comes back, some people seem completely obsessed about what sort of reception they're going to get.
Marvo's comments are refreshing to be honest, because from my point of view it's upto the individual involves as to what the f*ck they want to do. Booing one of your own players before they've even kicked a ball is plain stupid though.
There were a handful of boos the first couple of times Bayo touched the ball, that's about it. It didn't sound malicious, I think it's just more of a pantomime element to be honest. A much more realistic interpretation as to whether a crowd is appreciative or not is to listen to the reception at the end of the game, and most folk were chanting his name. I think that's pretty much a ringing endorsement considering he was playing for the opposition.
Anyway, in summary, I don't really care. It's football. People boo. Sometimes they cheer. Loyalty doesn't last long these days.
Another thing that makes me laugh is when people directly link the occasional boo with a players performance as if it is going to make a significant difference either way. Players are used to it, unless it's a whole ground doing it I doubt it bothers them a jot.
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DustCobb
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2010, 20:30:50 pm » |
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Can't wait to see what reception Alistair Slowe gets if he ever gets some game time!!!!
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