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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2014, 13:40:19 pm » |
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It's annoying how weak we were at the back but in 2 home games there's been 15 goals, they might not all be in the right net but it's bloody entertaining anyway! Seen every game but Newport so far this season, and I don't think I've seen Alfei have a good one. At fault for a lot of our goals early in the season (York, Wolves, Pompey) and he needs a break from it all. We need a proper right back and sharpish.
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2014, 13:52:59 pm » |
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Hello!!
As a lifelong cobbler I have felt the urge to sping into action and join the Hotel End Brigade certainly after a curious week on the pitch, I noted Lee Collins (probably my favourite player at the club) comments about the mid field not tracking back then watched the replay, to be honest I couldn't see his point.
Accrington's 1st : Full back didn't get close allowing winger to pick his pass
2nd : A stupid miscommunication between the two left back from the corner , certainly no opportunity for anybody to filter back
3rd: again lads of space on the flank, got beaten in the air keeper not strong enough.
4th : considering we was chasing the game we had an embarrassment of personnel in the box probably too many funnelled back and still nobody puts in a challenge allowing the guy to waltz in and score.
5th: beaten to a header from a long ball then out muscled.
Don't know about anyone else's observations maybe the wingers could have been back for the first and third but the full back was still out of position . I think if the skipper is going to apportion blame he should be "having it right" as they say.
What do you think?
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2014, 14:19:11 pm » |
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It's annoying how weak we were at the back but in 2 home games there's been 15 goals, they might not all be in the right net but it's bloody entertaining anyway! I appreciate your rhetoric but would prefer a stoic defensive display rather than a 4-5 thriller any day. I also appreciate the experts and purists on here would not agree with this. Traditionally we have been a dour defensive side with good counter attack possibilities. I think Mr Wilder needs to adopt this strategy pronto before our season evaporates before our eyes. |
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2014, 15:28:48 pm » |
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one of the problems with having so many defenders who all seem more capable at centre-back is that we'll always struggle against sides with decent width, as Pompey, Newport and Accrington have showed.
This is a very good point. The problem with Tozer and Robertson is that they're basically centre backs - they're strong and solid but lack the pace and mobility to combat wingers with pace. McSweeney looked very solid as specialist full back IMO, and I think he was only let go due to budgetary constraints and a perceived lack of versatility when compared to Robertson. However, despite the fact that he is nominally a centre back, I think Collins is quick and flexible enough to play as a full back - he looked very good there during our run to the play-offs. |
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2014, 16:02:07 pm » |
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I thought Joe Widdowson was a good enough left back at our level - sad to see him go.
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2014, 16:06:47 pm » |
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Cresswell has turning circle of an elephant....reminded me of Dave Artell....but crap. Alfei and Archer need to start thinking about a different career. Robertson was murdered yesterday, however is very consistent. I completely trust wilder, he will get it right.
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2014, 16:17:23 pm » |
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Robertson was murdered yesterday, however is very consistent.
Consistently murdered? |
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2014, 16:35:16 pm » |
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At least our defence is on a par with Man Utd  Mind you, it doesn't seem like 10 minutes ago when The Cobblers got a credible 0-0 at Leicester in the league. |
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2014, 16:43:53 pm » |
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At least our defence is on a par with Man Utd Mind you, it doesn't seem like 10 minutes ago when The Cobblers got a credible 0-0 at Leicester in the league. What the old 1st Div with Law,Charlton, Bell, MacKay , Bremner etc in it? post edit 2008/2009 Sat 31 Jan Northampton Town 1 - 2 Leicester City League Sat 25 Oct Leicester City 0 - 0 Northampton Town League 1997/1998 Sat 03 Jan Leicester City 4 - 0 Northampton Town F.A. Cup 1965/1966 Sat 26 Mar Northampton Town 2 - 2 Leicester City League Sat 02 Oct Leicester City 1 - 1 Northampton Town League Apologies 'fort you where referring to 65/66 season  |
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2014, 19:15:19 pm » |
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I will be be stunned if Alfei plays right back next week against Ellison.
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2014, 19:35:20 pm » |
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I will be be stunned if Alfei plays right back next week against Ellison.
So Ben Tozer there instead ? He has also had some mares in that position , its an ongoing problem. |
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2014, 19:55:23 pm » |
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If it's possible to bring someone in then I hope he does. What we don't know is whether it's an option to send Alfei back but on the face of it, if he isn't gonna play again...it would be in both his and Swansea's interest. I hope CW is ruthless on this occasion because it's as clear as day he isn't good enough.
And the same goes for Archer.
I think it's fair to say that the fans have been patient with these two, and they were again yesterday. But patience eventually runs out...we've seen then both enough times now and it's evident that with those two in the starting line up we will leaked lots of goals. Of course there are others who are also at fault but they are our own contracted players so we need to work with them. These two would be very easily replaced with better players.
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2014, 20:45:18 pm » |
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Cresswell has turning circle of an elephant....reminded me of Dave Artell....but crap.
Lots of lower league 'experts' were creaming their pants over his recent signing. Him and O'Toole will be hogging a lot of the budget, so I hope they both come good. |
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2014, 07:58:25 am » |
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Three away games now, lets see what CW does to improve our defensive record/performances during those...6 points and progress to the next round?
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 08:32:04 am » |
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I appreciate your rhetoric but would prefer a stoic defensive display rather than a 4-5 thriller any day. I also appreciate the experts and purists on here would not agree with this. Traditionally we have been a dour defensive side with good counter attack possibilities. I think Mr Wilder needs to adopt this strategy pronto before our season evaporates before our eyes.
I completly agree with you. 3-5-2 comes to mind, how about it Mr Wilder? |
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 12:04:17 pm » |
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I have lost count how many times I have said this, but a strong back line is most important, it's no good scoring 4 if you are going to concede 5 or six.It's basic football logic.Gun ho attack, wide open at the back will never work.You MUST have a balanced side
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 12:27:45 pm » |
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I have lost count how many times I have said this, but a strong back line is most important, it's no good scoring 4 if you are going to concede 5 or six.It's basic football logic.Gun ho attack, wide open at the back will never work.You MUST have a balanced side
would you rather win 5-4, then lose 5-4 all the way through the season....................or draw every game 0-0?!? points and entertainment wise, i know which i would prefer. although neither will get you promoted. probably need some sort of balanced side. |
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 12:39:28 pm » |
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would you rather win 5-4, then lose 5-4 all the way through the season....................or draw every game 0-0?!?
points and entertainment wise, i know which i would prefer.
although neither will get you promoted.
probably need some sort of balanced side.
It's not worth getting too far into hypotheticals at this stage but for those interested we're averaging 1.56 points per game so far this season. Continuation of that would see us finish on 71/72 points (depending on how you like to do your rounding). Only one year in the last 10 where 72 points hasn't been enough to secure a play-off place. Just saying. |
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 12:59:53 pm » |
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You've got to be equally good with the ball as you are without it.
At the moment we have a crap goal keeper.
In addition...we have only 4 outfield players from 10 who can in anyway shape or form defend..and 1 of those (Alfei) is terrible at it. Every time.
So in simplistic terms...we need to address the keeper. Address the right back. And even up the outfield players who bring something to the defending party to 5 from 10.
We will end up with more of the ball and will concede less goals. It shouldn't be too hard to fix.
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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2014, 15:08:50 pm » |
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You've got to be equally good with the ball as you are without it.
At the moment we have a crap goal keeper.
In addition...we have only 4 outfield players from 10 who can in anyway shape or form defend..and 1 of those (Alfei) is terrible at it. Every time.
So in simplistic terms...we need to address the keeper. Address the right back. And even up the outfield players who bring something to the defending party to 5 from 10.
We will end up with more of the ball and will concede less goals. It shouldn't be too hard to fix.
So how much more money are you suggesting we throw at it? |
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