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Consistency, Team Selection and Injuries

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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 14:38:13 pm »

Grin Grin

FFS Why all the recent scare over Ebola on here? You've all still got more chance of catching AIDS or winning the Euro millions, especially as some here don't leave the cainty or even their front rooms.



I doubt both those cases, definitely the latter. There has already been over 3,000 deaths from Ebola in the last six months, how many Euro millions winners in that time?

PS: What does cainty mean?
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 14:41:35 pm »

It think most managers who have been here and gone have expressed the view that the training facilities could be better, DC acknowledged the fact in his interview , considering he has been at the club 10 years and we have made no advance in this area apart from recent lip service gives an inclination how DC prioritises things.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 14:44:34 pm »

It think most managers who have been here and gone have expressed the view that the training facilities could be better, DC acknowledged the fact in his interview , considering he has been at the club 10 years and we have made no advance in this area apart from recent lip service gives an inclination how DC prioritises things.

Can't disagree with you there Bill - in fact I'd even suggest the "could be better" means utter s***e.......
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 15:48:24 pm »

It think most managers who have been here and gone have expressed the view that the training facilities could be better, DC acknowledged the fact in his interview , considering he has been at the club 10 years and we have made no advance in this area apart from recent lip service gives an inclination how DC prioritises things.

Welcome back, Bill. Well, what we all want to know is how Dave reacted to your thinly veiled hints of skulduggery. The ones that didn't take bottle to send. Remember?
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 15:58:41 pm »

Welcome back, Bill. Well, what we all want to know is how Dave reacted to your thinly veiled hints of skulduggery. The ones that didn't take bottle to send. Remember?

I don't understand , why wouldn't i send the club an mail, what is the worst thing that could happen ?
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 23:11:04 pm »

1) Not a personal crusade (& it's rarely done to one factor) but what an earth is our full time sports scientist doing - there has to be serious questions about methods we are using in training and general fitness here, & to me, since the appliance of science our injuries have got worse.

Have to agree with this. I've spent a lot of time training with sports scientists, specifically strength and conditioning coaches. Any good S&C coach knows that injury prevention is a very important part of training for elite athletes and will plan it into sessions. The number of muscular injuries we are getting is beyond ridiculous but we suffered the same types of injuries under Boothroyd as we are with Wilder so unless they are co-ordinating training in a very similar way, the only constant is Craig Smith.

It is not hard to find a good strength and conditioning coach, universities are pumping them out at the moment with many doing unpaid internships who would jump at the chance for a paid role. Maybe I should recommend to a few people they send a CV in.
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2014, 04:49:10 am »


Agreed. There's definitely some bad luck involved and I'm sure that we'd have got a result a result yesterday if Collins, Diamond and Richards had been out there. However, one has to question whether the situation is 100% down to bad luck, or whether the fitness and rehabilitation of Collins, Diamond and Richards (and numerous others) could have been better managed by Wilder, Craig Smith and the physio team.

In any case, it's the unforced team changes - Alfei for Tozer, D'ath for K Mo - which are really killing us IMO. The narrow defeat against top-of-the-table Burton in no way justified CW's decision to make these changes. If he was going to change anything he should have looked at the front two IMO who haven't really been firing on all cylinders for a while. As you say we have an expensive and experienced bench full of players with a proven track record at this level  - Carter, O'Toole, Langmead, Tozer. In contrast, Archer, Alfei, Stevens, D'ath and Toney are all under 25 and barely have 100 first team league appearances between them - no wonder we're being picked apart at set pieces by street wise operators like Cheltenham and Wycombe.
 
Personally, I'd play the following against Oxford:



                       Duke (if fit)

    Robertson Collins (if fit, otherwise Tozer/Langmead)  Cresswell Stevens

          Hackett    Ravenhill  Carter  K Mo

                         O'Toole
                         
                         Nicholls


When Collins and Diamond are both fit I would play Collins as a full back. Wilder needs to sort out a consistent back
four as an urgent priority and as good as Stevens might be, if he's only here for a month then the sooner we
resort to our own players the better. In the long term I think our best back four would be:

Collins Diamond Cresswell Horwood   (with Tozer and Langmead in reserve). 


Neither D'ath nor Toney are pulling up any trees at the moment, so I'd argue that it's time to give O'Toole a run. Wilder should make it clear to him that this is his chance to prove himself and that if he doesn't put the work in then he'll be taken off after 60 minutes and face another sustained benching. 





you have to start more than one up top at home...Toney, Langers and Nico lets for the kill...
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2014, 06:38:03 am »

DC isn't going to be interesting in training facilities as there isn't money to be made in that.
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2014, 06:46:11 am »

DC isn't going to be interesting in training facilities as there isn't money to be made in that.

You'd appreciate him more if he kept losing money, eh? Well, if the club kept losing money? Funny attitude.
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2014, 08:21:10 am »

I think it will come good, forgetting a couple of passengers I believe we have a good squad just got to get them and keep them fit.
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2014, 08:50:27 am »

I think it will come good, forgetting a couple of passengers I believe we have a good squad just got to get them and keep them fit.

I agree.

I think CW is correct that we need to hang in there as best as possible until Xmas and then try to push on in the new year.

If we can be within 6 points of the play offs come January I'll be content.
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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2014, 09:40:39 am »

Wilder often had injury problems at Oxford as well. Either he is one of the unluckiest men alive or his training methods are very heavy and have an impact.
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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2014, 09:43:02 am »

Have a look where Sc***horpe were last season after 13 games played.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-two/2013-2014/table/2013-10-22
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2014, 09:45:07 am »

Or maybe 12, but you get the point
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2014, 09:15:06 am »

Well well.....

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/wilder-injury-crisis-was-result-of-training-not-being-hard-enough-1-6397152
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2014, 09:23:45 am »

Train hard, fight easy....
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2014, 10:35:32 am »

Train hard, fight easy....

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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2014, 10:40:13 am »

I agree.

I think CW is correct that we need to hang in there as best as possible until Xmas and then try to push on in the new year.

If we can be within 6 points of the play offs come January I'll be content.

Bugger the theory behind "push ons" - I would prefer a promotion push now!
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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2014, 12:35:30 pm »

With Robertson and D'ath - probably the only two hitherto injury-free squad members - now joining the ranks of the hobbling wounded, this problem has officially moved beyond a joke.

Reading between the not-too-subtle lines, it seems that Wilder has finally taken more control of training and that the 'sports scientist' is taking a back seat. As I've said before, I'm no fitness expert but it struck me as very odd that the players were filmed doing pre-season bleep tests on the Sixfield's concrete concourse. Any amateur runner knows that sprinting on hard surfaces increases the chance of injury exponentially - why then did our 'sports scientist' think that it was a good idea?

(http://www.livestrong.com/article/426847-pain-with-running-on-hard-surfaces/)

AFC Wimbledon had one player out injured when we played them last week. Is that down to a brilliant state-of-the-art sport scientist, or is it because they keep things simple and traditional - runs in the park, strengthening and conditioning work etc.
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« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2014, 17:50:18 pm »

So you want to keep things 'traditional' but also get back Glen Thurgood?
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