The Hask
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 23:04:58 pm » |
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I hope your right mate, I really do.
I keep telling myself this but as time goes on I am finding it hard to convince myself.
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Dan
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2010, 23:21:55 pm » |
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Sorry mate but you are wrong. Totally wrong. I didn't go to either. That doesn't mean Im not a 'proper supporter' which you are basically saying. We all choose our away games and I was going to attend today but when the draw for round 2 was made, I chose Sheffield instead. The current situation we are in is perilous, and if you are not blaming the chairman then you have to blame the manager. End of. For me, our current budget is competitive so it has to be the manager. There is a far bigger picture, I accept that. But the management of the team at the moment is at best questionable. We all want Sammo to do well but it just isn't happening. So stop living in cloud cuckoo land and take a look at the league table. Yes, IF we had won today we would be 14th/15th. But is that acceptable? No is the simple answer. If it wasn't for the security of a 3 year contract, he would have gone by now. Now that is the chairmans fault. His appointment (the cheap option) has turned into a very expensive one. As many of us predicted. Steve Riches calls for money to be spent on a striker. No decent forward would now join us, not in our current situation. So its a chicken and egg situation. I cannot see beyond clearing out the management team, starting again...and making sure that we don't employ another disaster waiting to happen. And that the appointment unites the support which is equally as important. My mate who went today said that there were people actually clapping the team at the end. Theres loyalty and theres stupidity. But then again we had loads that clapped the team off at Leeds when our relegation was confirmed. In my world you have to perform well to be congratulated, many of our fans see it different though. I stood in disbelief when i saw this happen. Unbelievable.
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wrigleys
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2010, 05:52:10 am » |
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I stood in disbelief when i saw this happen. Unbelievable.
Well I was there and I clapped because I am a supporter of Northampton Town. What would you prefer? Spit vitriol at every player with claret hoops? Roughly this time last year we were demolished by Burton simply because (in my opinion) half the Town support were screaming at Dunn telling him what a c*** he was. That still riles me every time I think about it. Screaming "c***s!!!!" at every Cobblers player will not help the current situation.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2010, 06:43:44 am » |
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You think we were beaten heavily by Burton because of our support? Erm, no.
I remember quite clearly Dunn getting a good reception as he came out, I remember some fans being pissed off about him gifting them their first goal, but I don't think the torrent of abuse began until after he had fumbled a weak shot over his own line after about 5 minutes. The team bottled it, you can't blame it on the supporters.
Though I will agree some of the abuse he got that day was bang out of order and the lad didn't pick himself, having a go at some of our fans for booing is ridiculous, I'd rather see our support show genuine concern over the sh*t situation we're in than just accept it like our players seem to accept defeat so easily. Our team were clapped off after whimpering to relegation in league one at Leeds when the previous week our fans were f*cking fuming over the performance against MK a couple of season ago, I just don't understand it. Accepting mediocrity will reap mediocrity.
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Insider
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2010, 06:58:31 am » |
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Screaming abuse is one thing, clapping players after we lost and were relegated at Leeds, Ipswich, Barnet and many others is completely different. That sends the message to them and to the manager and DC that actually is OK to lose and there's nothing too much wrong with relegation either. If people keep going to a restaurant that serves crap food, guess what? They'll keep serving up crap food. Even scraping survival in this division seems acceptable to far too many.
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2010, 08:16:10 am » |
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I certainly didn't clap yesterday but I did at Ipswich, even though we'd lost with a bit of a whimper that day. Including that one in the list of unclappable games is a bit harsh, isn't it? I don't know about anyone else, but I was clapping the cup run rather than just that performance.
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2010, 08:50:35 am » |
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There is only one certainty in all of this, which is it will all end in tears. Either with relegation to the conference or the sacking of Sammo, or both. In fact the latter is nailed on. With the exception of CC, when is the last time a manager left on their own free will? Even the great Graham Carr got his marching orders in the end. So it boils down to a question of timing really. The only thing for me is that it should be done (when it happens) with respect and dignity as Sammo has served our club better than most. It would be nice if Sammo realises himself that he isn't going to turn things around and walks away. I am sure that he believes in himself and has a big mortgage to pay so this is unlikely to happen. I actually haven't seen enough games this season to know that he won't string a few more results together. How many of us would walk away from our jobs if we were under performing, and before the old "I would be sacked", most of us are fortunate enough to have jobs where we can't just be fired out of the door, even though the comparison to a football manager is almost impossible to make. The whole situation, from the very top to bottom, is a real sham(e) and ultimately it is the fans who suffer. I guess when you look back over the history of the club and the introduction of two up, two down, a serious flirt with non league football is long over due. As for the "There are two worst teams" argument, I am sure that is what Oxford and co were saying. I'm climbing back onto my fence.....
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2010, 11:09:07 am » |
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Dear David, admit defeat and put the club up for sale. Regards, the fans of Northampton Town FC.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2010, 11:36:59 am » |
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Screaming abuse is one thing, clapping players after we lost and were relegated at Leeds, Ipswich, Barnet and many others is completely different. That sends the message to them and to the manager and DC that actually is OK to lose and there's nothing too much wrong with relegation either. If people keep going to a restaurant that serves crap food, guess what? They'll keep serving up crap food. Even scraping survival in this division seems acceptable to far too many.
hello insider, welcome back. have you been on holiday or do you just not post when we win?
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2010, 11:41:10 am » |
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hello insider, welcome back. have you been on holiday or do you just not post when we win?
If you must know, gobs***e, my wife's been very seriously ill. See you at Rotherham?
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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2010, 12:10:20 pm » |
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We're stuck with this clown for the foreseeable future unfortunately. Just say some prayers and hope for the best, maybe we'll scrape our way back into midtable come the end of the season.
I'm not sure if by clown you mean DC or Sammo but if it is Sammo, and I respect your right to vent your spleen considering our precarious situation, but at least show some respect for a club legend, and believe me, legend isn't a word I ever use lightly.
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2010, 13:03:06 pm » |
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If you must know, gobsh*te, my wife's been very seriously ill. See you at Rotherham?
Very sorry to hear that Insider, but in all honesty I'm not sure how he was supposed to know that. Hope she makes a speedy recovery anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2010, 13:55:58 pm » |
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You think we were beaten heavily by Burton because of our support? Erm, no.
I remember quite clearly Dunn getting a good reception as he came out, I remember some fans being pissed off about him gifting them their first goal, but I don't think the torrent of abuse began until after he had fumbled a weak shot over his own line after about 5 minutes. The team bottled it, you can't blame it on the supporters.
Though I will agree some of the abuse he got that day was bang out of order and the lad didn't pick himself, having a go at some of our fans for booing is ridiculous, I'd rather see our support show genuine concern over the sh*t situation we're in than just accept it like our players seem to accept defeat so easily. Our team were clapped off after whimpering to relegation in league one at Leeds when the previous week our fans were f*cking fuming over the performance against MK a couple of season ago, I just don't understand it. Accepting mediocrity will reap mediocrity.
I'm not having a go at anyone for booing, if thats how you feel then do as you like. I'm just suggesting that supporters of the club who want to clap certain players off the field shouldn't be had a go at. Not every player was s***e at Barnet.
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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2010, 14:00:44 pm » |
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I'm not having a go at anyone for booing, if thats how you feel then do as you like. I'm just suggesting that supporters of the club who want to clap certain players off the field shouldn't be had a go at. Not every player was sh*te at Barnet.
Agreed, but some on here seem to have the attitude that you're not a proper supporter unless you turn up, accept the s*** performances and clap roundly at the end.
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Positively Mad Mark
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2010, 16:29:48 pm » |
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A couple of weeks ago this board was full of Sammo out posts. We win three in a row (including Forest Green) and draw against the second placed side having played half the game a man light. Now, another defeat, a shocking one I agree, and we're back to Sammo out.
Don't get me wrong, I am seriously concerned, concerned about the league position, concerned about the manner of the performance and the defending yesterday but should there be a time limit on it? Should there be a points target?
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2010, 17:01:14 pm » |
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I have grave concerns that I have seen my last game the Cobblers wil play in the league when I was there in August. It saddens me to tink that our club could slip into the depths that are the conference, especially after surviving so many close shaves when we were in serious financial diffculties and only avoided the drop on technicalities. If the club were run like a business I have to say Sammo would have been gone by now. The piss poor start to the season should have sealed that. However there does seem to be a certain amount of sentiment when it comes to the old stalwart and one can only hope that is rightly placed. Of course there is also the possibility that nobody else is stupid enough to take the poisoned chalice of managing a team in such dire straits.
I would like to think that when I am back home come August next year we will still be playing league football.
No scrap that I f**king pray to all the football gods in the heavens that we are and that I can still wear my shirt and scarf with a bit of pride.
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2010, 17:10:21 pm » |
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The red card was the killer, totally stupid by Davis. That, and the fact that with McKenzie off we haven't anyone who we could dare call a striker, means we were doomed the moment that card came out. You can't call for Sampson's head on the strength of today, but another 2 or 3 mess-ups like this and we'll be facing serious relegation issues. It has to be sorted. That may well mean spending decent money on a decent striker - I know McKenzie is one, but if his injury continues to be a major problem then that's no good to us. The red-card situation is a farce, too, indiscipline is a whole-club problem and needs nipping in the bud.
its not just on yesterdays result is it?we are 22nd because of past results we have lost to Hereford & Oxford as well as Barnet yesterday 3 sides who are in or around the bottom 2,other than McKenzie the only other out & out goalscorer is Gunnian who would'nt get in to Barnets side let alone ours & along with a lack of team spirit as where on problem is
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2010, 17:17:44 pm » |
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Dear David, admit defeat and put the club up for sale. Regards, the fans of Northampton Town FC.
And the queue for that is how long.......?
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2010, 17:19:18 pm » |
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Of course there is also the possibility that nobody else is stupid enough to take the poisoned chalice of managing a team in such dire straits.
I don't see it as a poisoned chalice at all. The right manager could get the best out of the likes of Johnson, Beckwith, Davis, Hall, Osman, Wedderburn Jacobs, Thornton and Mckenzie. We don't have a bad squad at all. The problem is that Sammo doesn't have the tactical nous or organisational ability to get the best out of the players at his disposal. Nor does he prepare thoroughly enough or work out a coherrent plan to combat the oppositon (c.f. Davis et al's failure to take into account the tendency of the ball to 'stick' at Barnet). Nor does has he had the contacts or the pulling power to attract the one player who would make a huge difference to our season: a recognised target man. The right manager would make a huge difference at this football club.
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2010, 17:43:22 pm » |
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And the queue for that is how long.......?
Well as he hasn't done it yet....
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